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Genre: Mystery, Detective
Expected Release Date: October 2006
Website: http://www.ntv.co.jp/deathnote/
I didn't find a thread for the TV series in my search though I've found a couple of threads for the manga and the live action movie. However, if I've missed the existing thread somehow, feel free to merge it.
Considering how popular the manga for this title is, it was just a matter of time before an anime adaptation was announced. I personally haven't read the manga but I've been yearning for a good detective/mystery type anime for some time now. The manga readers are always so gaga over it any time Death Note is mentioned in the forums or in IRC, so I can't wait to find out the reason behind it. Synopsis in the following is as taken from AniDB (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=4563).
Light Yagami (Or Raito) is an ace student with great aspects who`s bored out of his mind. One day he finds the Death Note a notebook held by a shinigami (Death God). with the Death Note in hand, Light decides to create a perfect world. A world without crime or criminals. However when criminals start dropping dead one by one, the authorites send the legendary detective L to track down the killer.
I like the sound of "detective L." Looking forward to it! :)
Deathkillz
2006-08-05, 23:37
^ oh wow October is gona be a great month :D death note owns...twisted morals FTW :p
I didn't find a thread for the TV series in my search though I've found a couple of threads for the manga and the live action movie. However, if I've missed the existing thread somehow, feel free to merge it.
Ahem... (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31664) ;)
It's been confirmed that the anime will be done by Madhouse, right? I have mixed feelings about that. While they're definitely capable of pulling out some sweet visuals, they haven't shown much in the way of animation l33tness in recent times, unless I'm forgetting something important. I mean, DN is mostly talking heads anyway--but IMO that gives them even less of an excuse to cut corners.
Ahem... (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31664) ;)
It's been confirmed that the anime will be done by Madhouse, right? I have mixed feelings about that. While they're definitely capable of pulling out some sweet visuals, they haven't shown much in the way of animation l33tness in recent times, unless I'm forgetting something important. I mean, DN is mostly talking heads anyway--but IMO that gives them even less of an excuse to cut corners.
Im unsure about how good is it going to be. The problem is Death Note is that its pretty much all talking. The problem is if they go into too much depth, it will be boring. But if they dont go in enough it will be too shallow and unsuspensful
Spooky-Electric
2006-08-08, 13:42
Ahem... (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31664) ;)
It's been confirmed that the anime will be done by Madhouse, right? I have mixed feelings about that. While they're definitely capable of pulling out some sweet visuals, they haven't shown much in the way of animation l33tness in recent times, unless I'm forgetting something important. I mean, DN is mostly talking heads anyway--but IMO that gives them even less of an excuse to cut corners.
If they do work on par with what they did on Monster then it will be fine. They just need to create the atmosphere, and succesfully adapt the artwork to anime.
Other than that it's not a series that requires great moving animation.
Speaking of artwork, here are some character design sketches (just Light, L and Ryuk), courtesy of one of the Death Note LJ comms.
Page 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/DaggerIX1/0001gtrf.jpg)
Page 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/DaggerIX1/0001kg6c.jpg)
They look pretty good--about as true to the manga designs as Hikaru no Go's anime designs, which was the level of accuracy I had been expecting. But is it just me, or is Ryuk a little too skinny?
Ahem... (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31664) ;)
It's been confirmed that the anime will be done by Madhouse, right? I have mixed feelings about that. While they're definitely capable of pulling out some sweet visuals, they haven't shown much in the way of animation l33tness in recent times, unless I'm forgetting something important. I mean, DN is mostly talking heads anyway--but IMO that gives them even less of an excuse to cut corners.
oopsie..:o I swear I searched the entire forum with the keywords "Death Note/DeathNote/Death/Note". Either the forums are playing tricks on me or I need to improve my searching skill. I suspect the latter. :p I knew it was too good to be true to not to have a thread on this title already. I'm sure the mods will merge the thread with the existing one at due time.
As for how the show will turn out in its animated form, even if the show is dialogue oriented, it always comes down to how good a studio is at anime adaptation. I think KyoAni is the best example who are not only tremendously good with animation, but also very very good with picking their VAs' (voice actors), music, tone, etc. If the show turns out to be as good as Monster, then it will indeed be a really good show to look forward to.
ShikaShika
2006-08-09, 14:11
For once I really really hope they this is an anime adaptation that isn't true to the manga. Don't get me wrong, the manga is terrific, or was, for the 30 first chapters or so, after which it (imho) simply failed. I won't go into any spoiler details, but I hope the anime does something along the lines of what the movies did (I haven't seen them, but they seem to cencentrate on the earlier part of the manga).
Has there been any anouncement regarding the length of the anime? If they animate it all, it'd probably fit in nicely as a 52-episode series, but personally I hope the concentrate on the early part of the manga and make an original ending, ending at about 26 episodes. Positive thing is that since the manga is finished, we're not likely to see much filler.
For once I really really hope they this is an anime adaptation that isn't true to the manga. Don't get me wrong, the manga is terrific, or was, for the 30 first chapters or so, after which it (imho) simply failed. I won't go into any spoiler details, but I hope the anime does something along the lines of what the movies did (I haven't seen them, but they seem to cencentrate on the earlier part of the manga).
Has there been any anouncement regarding the length of the anime? If they animate it all, it'd probably fit in nicely as a 52-episode series, but personally I hope the concentrate on the early part of the manga and make an original ending, ending at about 26 episodes. Positive thing is that since the manga is finished, we're not likely to see much filler.
I think they should make a faithful adaptation of the entire manga (but maybe add a few new things to spice things up).
While only focusing on the first half of the story and adding an original ending would be interesting, that's exactly what the live-action movie is doing, so that idea will be stale by the time the TV anime comes out.
ShikaShika
2006-08-09, 14:49
I think they should make a faithful adaptation of the entire manga (but maybe add a few new things to spice things up).
While only focusing on the first half of the story and adding an original ending would be interesting, that's exactly what the live-action movie is doing, so that idea will be stale by the time the TV anime comes out.
Yeah I doubt very much the anime is going to divert much from the manga, especially if Madhouse is doing it. Well, I have the movies at least. (And the 15 or so first episodes of the anime. :))
I'm sure the anime will compress events where it's appropriate (i.e. in places where the manga dragged). That should help smooth out the viewing experience.
Spooky-Electric
2006-08-09, 20:58
Anime by nature tends to drag though..
The pace of the manga is strongly dictated by how fast the viewer chooses to read it.
Anime by nature tends to drag though..
The pace of the manga is strongly dictated by how fast the viewer chooses to read it.
Speaking abstractly, I'd argue that five sucky chapters in five minutes is no better than five sucky chapters in half an hour. If anything, the compressed crappiness would probably leave the faster reader with an even worse impression. :p
Sure, anime in general tends to drag when the manga isn't finished and they resort to making up filler. But with the manga already over, I don't think the scriptwriters and director of Death Note have any excuse to make things seem more stretched-out than they should.
Spooky-Electric
2006-08-09, 23:43
Except no anime has ever covered 5 chapters in one half-hour episode.
It would be more like 5 chapters in 15 minutes of crappiness vs. an hour of the anime in crapiness.
I would rather have less of the crapiness.
It's not always a result of the manga being unfinished or wanting to include filler either. I remember parts of the Monster anime feeling very slow compared to when I read it in the manga, and the anime follows the manga exactly.
It's not always a result of the manga being unfinished or wanting to include filler either. I remember parts of the Monster anime feeling very slow compared to when I read it in the manga, and the anime follows the manga exactly.
Perhaps too exactly? (In terms of pacing.)
But in the case of Monster, assuming you read the whole manga before you watched the anime, I think it may be a little unfair to compare them; any suspense series is going to feel slower when you lose the thrill of seeing or reading it for the first time. Sure, manga can dodge that somewhat because one can just skim when one re-reads it, but if one were reading it in-depth just like the first time, the slowing-down effect would probably be just as strong as what you get when you see an anime based on a story you're already familiar with.
Hmm... DN opening and ending songs r now known. :D Wonder will they be good? hee :heh:
Opening Theme:
"The World" by Nightmare
Ending Theme:
"Aluminia" by Nightmare
source: Shounen Jump Issue 38
I think this could be really excellent.
I watched Monster but never read it, so I don't know how well Madhouse built the mood. I feel like I can sense it, however, since as I watched it I realized there wasn't a lot of action to animate and so it probably worked very well in a still-frame setting.
In respect to Death Note, I think they have a real opportunity to provide a feel to the Death Note story that I couldn't pick up in still frames. Using lighting and directing to convey the mood of a world in (physical and spiritual) chaos due to the actions of Kira, rather than just honing in on Light's face as he consider something diabolic for 90% of the episodes--that would be a really joy to see.
While a lot should happen in the coming times that I should be way more concerned about, I'm still really looking forward to October for this reason. And now, to investigate that music (thanks for the heads up, Ja-Y-Ce!).
Edit: http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4904/scananimedeathnotehf1.jpg makes me think they really may do the lighting well. Also, just listened to a sample of Nightmare's music at http://nightmare.chusha-ki.net/ --great instrumentals (it's definitely rock).
Only Live TV series huh. Will it turn to Anime?
LightningZERO
2006-08-12, 13:47
It is an anime series
Accordin to Shonen Jump Issue 40,
Death Note Anime
- Starts from October 3, 24:56pm
- Cast:
Light: Miyano Mamoru (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamoru_Miyano)
L: Yamaguchi Kappei (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kappei_Yamaguchi)
hmmm.... Kappei Yamaguchi, i guess many r familiar with him. One good example is Inuyasha and Usopp in One Piece. I am not sure abt Mamoru Miyano as Raito though...
Source: http://community.livejournal.com/weeklyjump/
p/s: hahahahaha now then i realise tt actually i know who mamoru miyano is... hmmm.... i tink he got to sound more serious than his usual tone and hopefully he can do a good job? well, i guess we got to wait for it. *counting down...*
It's been ages since I read Death Note, but going by the few times I've heard Miyano in an anime, I think he can pull the arrogance off. But he's got to sound more serious than usual, cos even his serious voice somehow makes me laugh a bit. He's gotta sound more scary, I think.
I hope Madhouse decides to give this the good (i.e. Monster, Nana, etc.) treatment and not the bad (KIBA, Okusama wa Joshikousei, etc.) ... especially drawing those excellent drawings. I love the character designs for Death Note and this is one show where I'd be a bit sad to see them get whacked around in the wrong way.
Oh well.
Kinny Riddle
2006-08-29, 10:11
I've only heard Miyano through his performance in Wolf's Rain. While he can play the dignified wolf Kiba, I'll have to wait and see if he can have a sort of "arrogant dignity" as the God-complex character that is Kira/Light.
I've always known Yamaguchi Kappei as playing the hot-blooded shounen type characters, like Ranma and Inuyasha. So it's a surprise to see him being cast as the eccentric but overally calm and calculated L.
MakubeX2
2006-09-06, 07:10
Cast update :-
リューク:中村獅童
弥海砂:平野綾
夜神粧裕:工藤晴香
Ryuuku :- Nakamura Shidou
Misa :- Hirano Aya
Sayu :- Kutou Haruka
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/DEATH_NOTE_%28%E3%82%A2%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A1%29
Aya Hirano as Misa, that's interesting. Wonder if we can hear her loli-loli voice from that role.
Yay! Kudou Haruka. H&C, Noein, H&C II and now this... looking forward to hearing her interesting voice again.
Isn't this the slot where they had Akagi and Monster before? Or was that Nana's slot...
Quajafrie
2006-09-06, 07:18
Yay for Kudou Haruka!
Siegel Clyne
2006-09-06, 07:22
According to this post (http://comic6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/rcomic/1156844781/876) by the legendary poster "Snake" ("HEBI") on this soon-to-be archived DEATH NOTE page858+147+4 (http://comic6.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/rcomic/1156844781/) "Over 1000 Thread" at 2ch's Natsukashi Manga Board: (http://comic6.2ch.net/rcomic/)
Ryuuk: Nakamura Shidou (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=21647)
Misa: Hirano Aya (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=6581)
Younger Sister (Yagami Sayu): Kudou Haruka (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=39770)
EDIT: I posted this message half asleep early yesterday. I deleted the last half of it as trivial and unnecessary.
Kinny Riddle
2006-09-06, 08:21
Wow, Hirano Aya as Misa Misa? I'm so looking forward to this show now - provided they have a different ending......hopefully.
Zappster
2006-09-06, 08:26
It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Usually I don't read the manga/novels before watching the animated version but I'm already a big fan of the manga, well at least what I've read of it. I hope I don't turn out to be one of those people when it comes to this show.
Tsukuyomi
2006-09-08, 19:06
I think Miyano Mamoru, will use his Ouran High School Host Club voice for the "normal" Raito... I think Hirano Aya naturally has it down as Misa :) i wonder about L though...
hey hey and note that the manga of Death Note is finished THERE WON'T BE ANY FILLERS!!!
wow shidou nakamura? they are really making this big budget!
I'm anticipating Kappei Yamaguchi's performance as L, shinichi kudou again perhaps?
Just saw in Manganews that the author is arrested for holding an army knife (http://www.manganews.net/forums/showthread.php?p=16014#post16014)
I hope he will be released shortly. :( Wah please don't let it interfer with the Anime...
Deathkillz
2006-09-09, 00:00
O.o 8.6cm knife...must have been some big rat he was trying to kill...
I love waffles!
2006-09-14, 14:41
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Some shots from a TV ad.
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http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/6820/up136486hg7.th.jpg (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=up136486hg7.jpg)
Great stuff IMO.
Yeah, those shots look pretty promising. Let's just hope the series manages to maintain a high-quality look like that all the way through.
Haohmaru
2006-09-15, 10:58
Yeah, those shots look pretty promising. Let's just hope the series manages to maintain a high-quality look like that all the way through.
Exactly what I was thinking. I don't think this will be over 51 episodes cause it's only 108 chapters. So it must be high-quality. Monster was 74 episodes and that was high-quality.
Hee, any idea where to watch the death note tv ad? as in... is it frm an interview of 中村獅童 (tt guy as ryuuk) or juz any normal ad? is it being uploaded on youtube yet? cos' i am actually quite curious to watch the whole ad. thanks. :D
Scribble
2006-09-16, 10:43
It's at times like this when I regret reading the manga. If I had seen this without knowing what would happen, I would be wowed by the twists, suspenseful moments and when certain characters die.
=(
LOL Scribble it does affect it, but not entirely. In my case, I'll still be thrilled and enjoying the story IF the anime was well done. ;) I know NANA anime got me, and I've read the manga many times that I memorized most panels.
It's at times like this when I regret reading the manga. If I had seen this without knowing what would happen, I would be wowed by the twists, suspenseful moments and when certain characters die.
=(
I was starting to feel the same way. Sigh...
This is one of the few shows that I WANT them to make filler for. They make filler for most Shonen Jump anime, so I want to see new Death Note material, even if it's bad.
What would be REAAAAALLY awesome is if they animated the original Death Note novel (the one that ties into the movie) and animated it, but I doubt it. It will probably stick strictly to the manga like the Monster anime did.
Monster anime had 74 episodes to cover 18 volumes of manga (roughly 4 episodes = 1 volume manga, by math). If Death Note does go the same route (approx. 4 episodes per 1 volume), the anime will be about 48 episodes long. I'm guessing it will go for 48~52 episodes if it has no filler or bonus episodes. On one hand, it's Madhouse making this anime, so they will probably do what they did with Monster and simply make a faithful adaptation of the manga. But on the other hand, it's a Shounen Jump series and producers are going to want to milk every penny out of it possible and make it run as long as possible if it has high ratings, so they could either drag it out (nooo~~) or add filler (yesss~~).
Li Jianliang
2006-09-16, 14:20
Fairly sparse, and Flash:
http://www.ntv.co.jp/deathnote/
darkchibi07
2006-09-16, 14:59
So does anyone know who's directing it?
NoSanninWa
2006-09-18, 05:15
It's at times like this when I regret reading the manga. If I had seen this without knowing what would happen, I would be wowed by the twists, suspenseful moments and when certain characters die.
Except that you already experienced those suspenseful twists while reading the manga. Does it really matter if you get your suspense while watching the anime or reading the manga?
Is suspense superior in anime?
Haohmaru
2006-09-18, 14:55
Hee, any idea where to watch the death note tv ad? as in... is it frm an interview of 中村獅童 (tt guy as ryuuk) or juz any normal ad? is it being uploaded on youtube yet? cos' i am actually quite curious to watch the whole ad. thanks. :D
Found it on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE4CQ9PUkuw. Looks awesome.
Deathkillz
2006-09-18, 19:18
Except that you already experienced those suspenseful twists while reading the manga. Does it really matter if you get your suspense while watching the anime or reading the manga?
Is suspense superior in anime?
i guess there isnt the satisfaction of seening the suspense animated again when you already know whts gona happen...it just wont feel the same imo
Found it on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE4CQ9PUkuw. Looks awesome
whow...
i guess there isnt the satisfaction of seening the suspense animated again when you already know whts gona happen...it just wont feel the same imo
I think NoSanninWa-san was, rather, inclining toward if one form of media can dish out "suspense" better than the other. To my belief, the answer lies to each-of-one's-own, meaning, there is no correct answer. What we all know is that manga version can be limited in visualization than the animated version in certain aspect of storytelling for obvious reasons.
whow...
--Whoa-- indeed! :)
Wow. O_O It looks awesome! And I like the background music. *squeels and twirls around happily* TWO WEEKS LEFT!
Found it on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE4CQ9PUkuw. Looks awesome.
Thanks!!!! WOW...it definitely looks good... *counting down* to 3rd Oct... XD
Scribble
2006-09-21, 12:41
Except that you already experienced those suspenseful twists while reading the manga. Does it really matter if you get your suspense while watching the anime or reading the manga?
Is suspense superior in anime?
Seeing Death Note in animated form, with music and all, would leave more of a mark in my mind than the manga did. Can't explain it properly, but IMO Death Note in anime form would be more "seamless", therefore epic and less rigid "jumping from frame to frame" in the manga. Like the anime is doing all the work and sucking me into the world of Death Note. Heh.
This is IF the manga and anime versions are more or less the same. If the pacing was played out as they had it in my head, I could imagine being excited tuning in week after week to see what happens. If "L" or "Light" managed to actually succeed in whatever plot they had. Death Note isn't extremely predictable, which would make tuning in to find out the result even more satisfying.
If you know what I mean.
i think that the anime would be better then the manga. i mean because you see it happen then you see cool effects.:heh:
Scribble
2006-09-21, 15:25
i think that the anime would be better then the manga. i mean because you see it happen then you see cool effects.:heh:
With Death Note, I think so too. With other stuff, like Midori no Hibi, I actually preferred it in manga form.
Aaand the promo is out! :love: Even though it was very short (is this the usual case of promos? I rarely watch them), I can feel it's gonna be grrreat. Loved Light's and Ryuuk's voice actors. :D
3 DAYS LEFT!!!11!!1
Yeah Light's voice actor is definitely adequate, if that's Light's voice. The animation of Light executing a criminal was really pretty magnificent, he was just superhuman in the way he moved his pen to the paper. Other animation seemed iffy, but then again it's adapted from a non-action manga.
I have to admit that I've grown to dislike the overly shounen-y music, though. Also, if that shot of Ryuk beside Light is from the opening, I think I'd like Monster's opening much more.
darkchibi07
2006-09-30, 16:50
I noticed the episode count listed in ANN:
http://animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6592
It's says 37 episodes are planned. That's a really odd number to use unless that number holds some significance. Nonethless that should be enough, right?
mysterious_w
2006-09-30, 17:55
Heard the manga for this was pretty amazing, but I prefer anime adaptions almost always, so I'm interested in this one a lot. Trailer was interesting too.
Deathkillz
2006-09-30, 18:08
It's says 37 episodes are planned. That's a really odd number to use unless that number holds some significance. Nonethless that should be enough, right?
1st season 12ep
2nd season 12ep
3rd season 12ep
final 1ep
just a guess :heh: but i really wont mind how long this gets as long as its good ^_^
They better rewrite the ending or there is no point of watching it.
If they cant rewrite the story, I would say prolly forget the 2nd part.
Chucky-san, a lot of people, including me, didn't even sniff the manga, (not exactly sure why anyone would sniff) let alone read it. A revelation of such event should never ever be revealed in a thread that is dedicated to the A N I M E only. In fact, it shouldn't be mentioned even under a spoiler tag. I sincerely hope you will edit as soon as possible. Please!?
1st season 12ep
2nd season 12ep
3rd season 12ep
final 1ep
just a guess :heh: but i really wont mind how long this gets as long as its good ^_^
I believe 1st and 2nd season will run 13-14 episodes that corresponds to the weeks a season consists of, given there are no holidays or other incident that might interrupt the weekly schedule. 3rd season will take care of the remaining of the episodes.
Chucky-san, a lot of people, including me, didn't even sniff the manga, (not exactly sure why anyone would sniff) let alone read it. A revelation of such event should never ever be revealed in a thread that is dedicated to the A N I M E only. In fact, it shouldn't be mentioned even under a spoiler tag. I sincerely hope you will edit as soon as possible. Please!?
Done. And sorry first, but.... one note: a lot of people here read the manga before and well, I think you are right about not to reveal anything substantial, but yet you cant stop manga readers from talking about what they would expect from the adaptation. :p
And those ever bitching about they dont wanna hear anything from manga readers will taste my wraith. Consider yourself be warned for the last time. ;)
Done. And sorry first, but.... one note: a lot of people here read the manga before and well, I think you are right about not to reveal anything substantial, but yet you cant stop manga readers from talking about what they would expect from the adaptation. :p
Thanks a lot Chucky! That was quick! :)
I don't know about others but personally, I don't have any problem with manga readers' talking about their expectation/disappointment as long as they are talking about a corresponding episode and doesn't reveal anything beyond that will happen in the future. I've seen a lot of sensible posters like Sushi-Y, Hunter do a lot of comparison between the original source and the anime adaptation in spoilers. I enjoy reading such posts since those kind of posts give me a better insight of an episode and even clear up certain things that remained vague until then.
Anyway, this is an open forum where everyone is entitled to share their opinion and enjoy it just as much as the next posters, let it be the manga-readers or the anime-only viewers as long as they don't ruin it for each other. I'll join your campaign of rooting out any discrimination against the manga readers if there is even any hint of it. :D
Well, the anime is prolly the highlight of this fall(?) and no matter how dissapointed a lot of people were by the manga, it is almost like a must-watch. I think it is very unfair to pass judgment of the anime based on the blunders in the manga. But I really doubt they have the authority to change the story at hand.
I think we can ask good and interesting questions about adaption: we have some good ones about mushishi the movie(!) but adaptation from manga to movie is very different from to anime. In most of the cases people are looking for faithfulness in anime adaptation, and that's very understandable -- but should the animators, assuming they have the right to change whatever they what, rewrite the story the way they see fit, esp after massive negative responses of manga readers indicating sort of a plot change may earn more popularity(or even aesthetically comes to a full circle)?
I think it is a tough question and have no easy answer, but again, no one can be sure where this Death Note anime will go and we will have to wait and see.
Dernhelm
2006-10-01, 12:18
if there's going to be fillers, i want fillers of the Wammy House. good times. :(
I noticed the episode count listed in ANN:
http://animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6592
It's says 37 episodes are planned. That's a really odd number to use unless that number holds some significance. Nonethless that should be enough, right?
Someone made that up. There is no episode count listed on any japanese site.
i watch the live action on yourtube, read about it on wikipedia and kinda like the idea..seems cool :D
also the actor who play Light on youtube one is the one on Battle Royale :D
looking forward to the animated series :D
Dernhelm
2006-10-02, 09:31
extended trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_mkXrmJuco
Thanks a lot Dernhelm~ If that's not total awesomeness, then I don't know what is. *wobbles* 1 DAY LEFT!!
ihavelonghair
2006-10-02, 17:18
man this is going to be sick.:D the animation itself gives off a good vibe. but it would be even better if someone can sub it in english for us non japanese folk:heh:
Deathkillz
2006-10-02, 17:21
wow its nearly out! ^_^ normally i avoid watching a raw cause it spoils too much but this time its a big exception ;)
The Ryuuku's voice is extremely unsatisfyingly ordinary...i'd say more traditional "monster movie" booming would suit him much better.
Itachikun
2006-10-03, 13:53
Wow, simply mind blowing. The OP video theme was really something.
This show rocks, the music is amazing when Light was writing the names. The animation, suigoi!!!
The anime of the season people. The whole meeting with Ryuk and Light, intense!
Omniscient
2006-10-03, 13:56
Episode 01 Screencaps (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/10/03/death-note-01/) (Summary coming soon)
The first episode was rather impressive from all the technical standpoints. It had a pretty strong soundtrack, with some interesting holy-style music at the beginning.
The red eyes made Light a lot creepier than I remember him from the manga, but that could be just me.
It seems the first episode is out. Those screencaps look great.
As long as they go with the flow of the manga, the anime is destined to be great. Only the mind game parts (major part) will be tricky, hopefully they can succeed presenting those parts without losing their intensity.
Lastly, I hope they take into account the concerns of the manga followers and have a different ending than the manga. I don't wanna also finish the anime in a highly unsatisfied way (kind of Berserk way).
MrProphet
2006-10-03, 15:58
The first episode was amazing.
I was generally bored by the manga (of which I've read a couple of volumes), but boy does the anime spice things up.
No, don't worry, the long brooding sequences of nothing but dialogue and thinking are still there, however they introduce spectacular dynamism into the moments where Light is feeling the pangs of his God Complex.
It's simply amazing to have a look into Light's sociopathic brain when he finally realizes the significance of the Death Note and what it can make out of Light himself.
The OP and ED are great, full of really awesome animation and the setting up of all the major conflicts. As Omni has already mentioned, the fact that they've illuminated Light's eyes gives him quite a creepy feel. You really do start believing in Light's maniacal character. He is that real.
Lastly, I hope they take into account the concerns of the manga followers and have a different ending than the manga. I don't wanna also finish the anime in a highly unsatisfied way (kind of Berserk way).
Well, for me, "taking into account the concerns of the manga followers" would mean sticking to the manga as faithfully as they did with Monster (which also had a somewhat controversial ending). I would feel extremely betrayed if they went to all these lengths to accurately portray the characters and all the rest of the plot, only to drop the ball on the end. The manga ending is by no means universally disliked.
Some way I'd love to see it to be faithful to the manga till end. Because it would be like deceiving and I think it loses its tense if it takes different route even its just the end.
Edit:
OP and ED weren't to my taste or maybe because its just because first it feels like it don't fit in mood. But liked background music. Character voices seemed bit weird because was imagined them bit different so it takes few eps to get used to them. It looked very good.
Well, for me, "taking into account the concerns of the manga followers" would mean sticking to the manga as faithfully as they did with Monster (which also had a somewhat controversial ending). I would feel extremely betrayed if they went to all these lengths to accurately portray the characters and all the rest of the plot, only to drop the ball on the end. The manga ending is by no means universally disliked.There will always be diversity in opinions regarding the end of a story. But, if a great diversity is present for an ending, I think the anime creators would definitely take into account that part. It can fail but still they will not ignore that concern. The problem with the manga ending is not the result itself (which I would gladly accept), but the way it is reached. For me, it is a highly fast-forwarded and forced ending.
If you compare the ways the success is achieved in both parts, you will see a lack of strength for the second part. That is why I prefer a greater ending for the anime. I don't know if mangaka is also somewhat unsatisfied for the manga ending, but if that is the case, then he/she has a chance right now to turn it into a more satisfactory ending in the anime. They can add more details, use a more improved storyline for the ending in a way that you won't finish the last episode with the comments like "pathetic". Even the character development, that you have observed till the end, nearly fails at the end.
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 16:29
Well, it had a forced ending, because the authors were forced by their editor to end it. It wasn't volluntary.
Well, it had a forced ending, because the authors were forced by their editor to end it. It wasn't volluntary.I didn't know that. I just made a search and couldn't find any information on that. Do you know the reasons for that?
I've also heard various rumors about the ending, but I have yet to see anything concrete to support them.
dxgarten
2006-10-03, 17:23
Episode 01 screencaps and impression (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/death_note_ep01.html)
I am not used to hearing Tamaki's (or Ouran Host) VA and seeing an entirely different character associated with said voice. Having said that, this was a really good adaptation of the manga. I can't wait to hear Hirano Aya's voice as Misa-Misa
Kamille-MkII
2006-10-03, 17:39
Amazing. Loved the OP/ED and I think Light's voice is perfect. Only slight differences from the manga.
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 18:07
Ugh..How long does it take to sub something? I wanna watch the damn show! T_T
Death Note raws are coming one after another, currently there are 4. The subbing groups might have difficulty in selecting the raw, unless they have their own sources.
Nightengale
2006-10-03, 18:24
This first episode wins. Even though it was just one episode, I was threatening myself to mentally throw out Sunrise/Bones as the leading studios of simple visual art/coordination/directing and deem Madhouse the new king.
Frankly, the use of the sublime athmosphere, lighting effects, EVERYTHING in the basic knowledge of visual enhancement to improve the quality of a show, not just anime in particular can be seen from the first episode. Not to mention the quality of the music as well.
As for the whole ending of DN, it was done that way because the Jump editor requested for an ending in which The bad guy gets totally fucked up in the end, and alas, his ugly downfall. There's no way that the editor would ask for a rushed ending, considering how famous DN is in Japan. It's not some disposable SJ title for god's sake.
Personally, I have only minor problem with how DN progressed and ended, (( I thought there were things that could've been improved from Raito's standpoint of view )), but let's not continue this here. We're in the anime thread, and just watching episode 1, while it appears faithful, they've also seem to go the extra length to ensure that this anime adaption is done at it's best possible way. Let's complain when it needs to be, and not now.
As for the whole ending of DN, it was done that way because the Jump editor requested for an ending in which The bad guy gets totally fucked up in the end, and alas, his ugly downfall. There's no way that the editor would ask for a rushed ending, considering how famous DN is in Japan. It's not some disposable SJ title for god's sake.That reason is understandable considering the popularity of the series, and its impact on even I guess children. But, that might also mean the ending may not be what the authors actually desired (or even planned), considering how the ending is presented. I don't know the level of control the editors can have on the TV series, but I hope not completely. I really wish for a non-jump edited ending.
Despite all the awesomeness, I wasn't 100% sold on episode 1 until the big writing sequence near the end. That was absolute brilliance.
As for the whole ending of DN, it was done that way because the Jump editor requested for an ending in which The bad guy gets totally fucked up in the end, and alas, his ugly downfall.
Source?
Noodlehead
2006-10-03, 18:50
Wow.
Just saw the raw, along with a couple other raws (D.Gray-man, Ghost Hunt, Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge; I'm currently acquiring Shounen Omyouji at the moment), and I have to say, Madhouse's animation quite literally blows all other series away. Like Nightengale said, it seems that BONES has some tough competition now. I hope they'll keep this quality constant throughout the entire series.
Speaking of which, how long will the DEATH NOTE anime be? Having read the manga in its entirety, I'd say that the series would fit nicely under the 39 - 52 episode range. The first arc could take up a little more than a season (a season typically spanning 26 episodes long) or so. Though 52 might be stretching it a bit. They'd need to stretch scenes out or add a bit of filler for that, but adding filler to a phsychologically tense drama like DEATH NOTE would seem a little out of place.
In addition to animation quality, the direction was stunning. It's rare to see split screens being simultaneously panned in an anime. I especially liked the multi-colored artistic screens in the opening theme, though the song itself isn't my preference of music. (Not so much into visual-kei, I like jrock better.) As a whole, the themes are suitable for the series, considering the plot and subject matter.
It's hard not to relate Miyano's voice to Tamaki every time I hear him, though. I keep getting this involuntary expectation that Raito will turn into a blundering narcissistic blond idiot randomly during the show. Maybe someone with the likes of Kyouya's voice (from Ouran, that is) would be more fitting for Raito. I'm looking forward to hear how Yamaguchi Kappei voices L.
This is one show I'll definitely follow through for the season.
~ Noodlehead
Nightengale
2006-10-03, 18:51
Source?
Here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=602487&postcount=403)
The actual source link is dead apparently, but the ones who've posted after me can vouch for it's credibility.
Here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=602487&postcount=403)
The actual source link is dead apparently, but the ones who've posted after me can vouch for it's credibility.
Thanks for the link, but I'm not really sure that I see this as being conclusive. Just because the editor felt one way doesn't imply that the Ohba felt the opposite way. I find it hard to believe that because even the very early chapters contain extremely heavy foreshadowing for the ending that we got. Seriously, when I went back and started re-reading Death Note, I was blown away by all of the little signs that pointed toward exactly what was going to happen, even from the beginning.
WOW!! The encode was a little washed out, but the actual show met and beat my expectations!! This looks like the best show of the fall season!!
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/cpk10/deathnote/DEATHNOTE_A01.gif http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/cpk10/deathnote/DEATHNOTE_A02.gif In case anyone would like it!!
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 19:40
When will it be subbed!? I want it..T_T
Without any doubt the best anime apdation of this year. I dunno if i even saw something better yet. Just flawless.
baconbleach
2006-10-03, 19:42
This looks very promising
Sigh. I am still waiting for the sub. However, I saw the brilliant screenshots up at some of the blogs. Hoho as a DN fan, I would say tt it definitely meet my expectation and wow! :D the whole animation looks much more creepier than the manga itself. Can't wait to c the first episode.
Anyway, anyone knows how many episodes this series goin to span??
I wonder is there any chances of the anime not adopting the original manga ending... *wishful thinking* :(
and why i got a feeling that it will be licensed soon, given its popularity in japan... :X
Nightengale
2006-10-03, 19:53
When will it be subbed!? I want it..T_T
Patience = virtue.
It's not like you have wait too long either, especially when there are at least 5 groups doing it.
Catgirls
2006-10-03, 19:55
EDIT:
My fault. Wrong series. Nothing to see here.
*whistles*
Speaking of which, how long will the DEATH NOTE anime be? Having read the manga in its entirety, I'd say that the series would fit nicely under the 39 - 52 episode range. It has been listed as a 37-episodes long series (both Animenewsnetwork and Anidb show the same).
White Manju Bun
2006-10-03, 20:00
Wow first epi was awesome! and I really like Tamaki's seiyuu for Raito, I think it fits him for some reason, espc when he was doing that evil laugh. Hopefully all the epis will be as good, I cant wait for the sub ^^
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 20:02
It's out. I just saw it pass through on my RSS feed.
AHHH! I don't know what an RS Feed, but will it be on animesuki soon?
Any fansubs other than Karehi plan on subbing Death Note?
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 20:05
What group is the sub out for?
Catgirls
2006-10-03, 20:08
EDIT:
Sorry...wrong series...I have too many shows on my mind. My fault. Not Death Note.
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 20:10
I only see D.Gray-man. Not death note. Well thanks anyway. I wanted that too. But I NEED Death note.
Catgirls
2006-10-03, 20:11
I only see D.Gray-man. Not death note.Yeah, my fault. I spotted the wrong series.
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 20:13
No problem. It happens. D.Gray-man is one of my top 3 favs anyway.
1. Death Note
2. Yakitate!! Japan
3. D.gray-man
Any fansubs other than Karehi plan on subbing Death Note?
Just everyone and their mom, except your-mom.
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 20:20
Does anyone know what group has the sub done? I want to search for it.
Does anyone know what group has the sub done? I want to search for it.
No sub is out yet as far as I know.
Super Ska Master
2006-10-03, 20:37
Bah...Catgirls crushed my dreams. I doubt I will see it today now. :(
At least I can see D.gray-man.
Srin Tuar
2006-10-03, 21:14
Bravo, well done episode.
The animation was really watchable.
Raito's instant decent into mania is amazing and convincing.
Definitely following this series, especially as I havent read the manga its 100% fresh to me.
To be honest I really wasn't all that excited about Death Note anime. I read the whole manga series but I thought it's not good animation material.
However, now that I know Tamaki's voice actor voices Light...
I am kind of curious.
at the rate of the incoming discussion, don't u guys agree that it shld be classified as a thread on its own?? cos' i got a feeling that it will be a promising and popular series???
*hinting at the mods*:heh: Any support?? :X
Chibi Nasu
2006-10-03, 21:26
I'm extremely pleased with the anime, so far. I've read the manga, and I had doubts at how well it'd transfer to anime-form, but... I'm incredibly happy.
And I'm proud of Mamo-chan xD He's doing a good job as Light.
i dunno if this is mentioned anywhere yet but Death Note is gonna be 37 episodes, which i find kinda weird for the odd number XP
What group is the sub out for?
Not any groups are gonna do Fansubs for it yet... unless you want to make a huge contribution in paying Dattebyo in subbing out Death Note X)
it's gonna cost : $10-$15 per minute for subtitling, so yah you do the math so it's gonna be around $225-$300 per episode and there 37 X) if you need the contact imformation i can provide you with it too ^^
baconbleach
2006-10-03, 22:10
It's gona be subbing nightmare..! All dialogue (lots of inner monologues) and hardly any action.
It's gona be subbing nightmare..! All dialogue (lots of inner monologues) and hardly any action.
Are you serious? I thought they would at least spice it up somewhat. :uhoh:
37 is not all that weird, it's 2 short of 39 which is 3 seasons. Maybe they'll throw in two recap eps or something, I dunno.
Crap, I want to watch this now! Gah, who cares about leaving in 20 minutes, I'll watch it and then go...
But I think Madhouse will still not beat BONES/Sunrise in terms of stability, although they can make some pretty damn awesome stuff.
EDIT: And this thread so needs its own forum
baconbleach
2006-10-03, 22:16
Are you serious? I thought they would at least spice it up somewhat. :uhoh:
No I was just predicting from the story in the manga.. They wouldn't make it THAT boring, especially when the first episode is good.
Li Jianliang
2006-10-03, 22:23
I found the manga -> anime to be awesome. The added and shuffled scenes made the story move along at a smoother pace, in my opinion. The lack of colors is unsettling, but I suppose it's appropriate for Death Note. I think the added scene where Light jots names down like mad is the best of episode 1, because of the dramatic music playing the background. I am so going to get the OST when it comes out.
...Am I the only one who looks at Death Note and thinks X (the TV series that was also animated by Madhouse)? Gloom, doom and deaths... Yep, it's all there. ;)
That was a good first episode. I guess the impact was a bit less since I've read the original manga but the lighting effects were great. I liked the bit where Raito was writing madly and people were just dying. I'm looking forward to see how they depict him going more and more caught up with the Death Note.
But I must say it's very jarring to hear Mamoru Miyano doing Raito right after doing.... TAMAKI of all people in Host Club. The two couldn't be more different! I swear!! But if it wasn't for that I think I would have said it was a good job. I just can't get it out of my mind (sadly).
The ending sequence was animated by Norimitsu Suzuki, an animator who is quite well known for doing ending animations (including the FMA EDs, Eureka 7 EDs (except 3), Rozen Maiden Traumend ED, Akagi ED, and that Chokotto Sister ED... yes, neko nyan dance)
Kaoru Chujo
2006-10-03, 22:44
This is not a genre that I'd normally be interested in, but that was fabulous. Animation, backgrounds, sound, story, and voice acting. As Srin Tuar said, Miyano Mamoru (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=10397) (Tamaki) totally sold the quick descent in madness. The drawing of all the shinigami was great, as was their world, and Ryuku himself (itself?) was an instant classic.
The only thing I'd worry about is it becoming as predictable as Jigoku Shoujo was until I quit watching it. But with an apparently good manga behind it, and Hirano Aya and Kudou Haruka yet to appear, perhaps there are more surprises in store. No dedicated forum yet, but probably soon.
You guys may know this stuff, but the director, Araki Tetsurou (http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=5&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.animenewsnetwork.com%2Fencycl opedia%2Fpeople.php%3Fid%3D34596&ei=xCkjRbmiNZCUgwOdopGuDA&sig=__Drcqwl9a1jOzo5iSbakaLhBDc8E=&sig2=oj87wXRT-nxSMgH8VQOKhQ), directed the OVA of Otogijushi Akazukin, but had only done storyboards and episode direction before that. He is credited only halfway down the list on the official site. The character designer, Kitao Masaru (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=5843), doesn't have any chara-des credits, either: apparel design for NANA? Animation director of Galaxy Angel? Producer of Rozen Maiden? Who'd have thought it? But it's Inoue Toshiki (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=4232) who gets top billing on ANN and the official site, for series construction and script. He wrote FMA, Tenjo Tenghe, all the Galaxy Angel and Kamen Rider shows, and is doing series composition on this fall's Sumomo Momono (of all things).
This is anime doing some of the things it does best. How do you think this would work in live action? Not well, in my opinion. It would quickly look like farce. As for subbing, if they are following the manga at all closely, that might be a big assist.
The rumors of various groups subbing DN seem to be greatly exaggerated... according to AniDB, only 3 other groups besides Karehi subbed the trailer, and they're all non-English (Dutch, Portuguese, some other language I can't recall). Hopefully a bunch will pick it up at some point. It seems that this series is going to be very popular.
So yeah, this, along with the final episode of XXXHolic really need to come out. Right... now. Now. ...Now.
Edit: Looks like AnimeStation may be doing some work on it too.
So I thought about the whole question of the ending again, and here's the thing: I want the TV series to faithfully portray the manga ending. I don't mind if they make adjustments for pacing; I just want them to stick to the facts of what actually happened. However, I would be the first to applaud Madhouse if, say, they later made an OVA or TV special with an alternate ending. That approach would probably make everyone happy. It's not that likely IMO, but I guess you never know.
Oh my God!! YES!! I'm a MAJOR Death Note fan and I can't tell you how happy it makes me when I see all that positive feedback. :D
Wish I can contribute to the discussion more. (I'm waiting for the sub haha (no, I'm not being a demanding leecher! :o))
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As much as I hate the 2nd part of the manga, it doesnt have any influence on my positive feeling of the first episode: it is simply GORGEOUS. The gothic music fits the editing and drawing perfectly, and it is way beyond my expectation. Nice, madhouse, you are still the best, a trillion times more superior than that prick called Gonzo ;P
Tsukishirou
2006-10-03, 23:32
They took out the part where Light is hiding in his bed ;_;
Anyway, average for me, the effects when he was writing were a little too corny for me >_> Regardless Death Note rocks! :heh:
Wow.
Everyone's favorite megalomaniac is animated with amazing beauty.
This was yet the most impressive first episode of anime this season, that I have seen.
I hope the second part doesn't drag on like it did in the original manga.
EDIT:
I can't wait to see the end animated. I loved the turn of events.
froinlaven
2006-10-04, 02:11
The animation quality for this anime was really good. I guess they can afford to put money into it with the manga being so popular + the movie.
For some reason I imagined that Ryuuk's voice would be kinda demonier. Like he just sounds like a normal guy (with maybe a sore throat?).
Full impressions and OP and ED are at the blog. (http://www.basugasubakuhatsu.com/blog/2006/10/03/death-note-anime-first-impressions-preview/)
Nightengale
2006-10-04, 02:13
*Snip
No spoiling. There are people here who did not read the manga and not know how it ended.
MakubeX2
2006-10-04, 02:25
The animation quality for this anime was really good. I guess they can afford to put money into it with the manga being so popular + the movie.
The anime is sponsored by Konami, that explained the standard.
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5992/1159896694149cx2.jpg
The movie from what I knew didn't make much of an impact in Japan. Kinda like how that Initial D movie was a year back, wasn't much of hit.
The first Ep captured the gothic mood well. Enough to turn some heads and gain attention. But let's hope that the average viewer will not find the plot too focus on dialogue or even draggy as the shows goes on.
Regarding the possiblity of a different ending, that depends on how well the idea of a vigilante prevailing at the end sits with the viewers at the end.
NoSanninWa
2006-10-04, 02:29
The rumors of various groups subbing DN seem to be greatly exaggerated... according to AniDB, only 3 other groups besides Karehi subbed the trailer, and they're all non-English (Dutch, Portuguese, some other language I can't recall). Hopefully a bunch will pick it up at some point. It seems that this series is going to be very popular.Just so you know, a well known and high-quality group has chosen a team to sub Death Note who intend to work on it like obsessed fangirls. Since they are obsessed fangirls. Since they haven't annoncened it yet, I won't name them, but rest assured that it is being subbed by at least one group other than Karehi.
Edit: Looks like AnimeStation may be doing some work on it too.No, they're not. That was an error misattributing a German group whose initials are AS. A member of our staff made a small mistake.
Since they are obsessed fangirls.
W00t ?!
A well-known all-female team ? Isnt that self-contradicting ?
eggplant
2006-10-04, 02:44
Did the raw cappers take out the D/N Walkthrough corner, featuring Hirano Aya and Kudou Haruka? I'm asking because I don't see any comments about it, and it is certainly one of the treats of the show.
For those who don't know what I'm talking about, I've uploaded it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjkutAMezMg) (don't be concerned about the blurry camera effects).
Great acting job by Nakamura Shidou (Ryuk), who is a kabuki actor (whose voice appeared in the live action motion picture as well).
LightningZERO
2006-10-04, 03:23
It was a great first episode and doesn't disappoint at all. (A bit too dark though). But too bad there's no Light hiding in the bedsheets. Want to see him struggle more. Oh, the scenes with Light writing the names and people die one by one. That's GREAT!!! Anyway, looks forward to more of Death Note!
I also LOVE the opening and ending
Voting for a subforum =x
All in all, an anime episode that gives me shiver .. Last time I feel this is when Fujiwara no Sai vs Touya Kouyou .. So definitely, eagerly anticipating the sub .. altho I could understand most of the dialogue already :p
Nightengale
2006-10-04, 05:19
So...does anyone knows what the rose in the OP symbolizes? That's probably the only metaphor in the OP I can't really decipher.
The rest from Light eating an apple looking down to the Earth to him and that mysterious man standing in a railway tracks are pretty much self-explainatory for manga readers, but I don't quite get that particular rose. Anyone thinks they can think of something that makes sense in the Death Note context?
Voting for a subforum =x
we're technically not alllowed to do this...
and I second that =x :p
what's this walk through corner thing mentioned above?
lamer_de
2006-10-04, 06:14
The anime is sponsored by Konami, that explained the standard.I'm 99% sure the sponsors you see in the intermissions did not give any money for the production. P&G (which is Procter&Gamble) for example show up in a lot of shows, and I would be very surprised if they have any commercial interest in anime. Other "usual suspects" are the company the manga is published (Kadokawa), game companies (Bandai, MS with their XBox360) or record labels that sell the merchandise (avex). There are also anime with extremly high production quality like ouran that have no sponsors at all. Those sponsor thingies are connected to the TV station, not the anime production.
Since they haven't annoncened it yet, I won't name them, but rest assured that it is being subbed by at least one group other than Karehi.L-E has been on the andrewLB wiki for quite some time as DN sub group, so yeah. It's L-E :P Other subbers listed on the wiki include C1 Anime, Otaku-Fansubs, Seraph Fansubs and Toriyama World, so there will be groups to choose from, even if they didn't release a promo.
CU,
lamer_de
This was a great first ep. I'll try to forget most of the plot so i'll enjoy this much more when watching it.
The show looks really good! I have read about half of the manga but I've also read the last chapters. Do you think the anime series will cover the entire manga or just "half of it", stopping at that point? If I'm correct, the first episode covered up to page 50 of the first volume. Any ideas or predictions?
Itachikun
2006-10-04, 08:35
Since it's about 37 episodes, Im guessing it will go through till the very end my friend.
Scribble
2006-10-04, 09:12
Part of me wishes that they'll go past that point, since I stopped reading there and everything from there will be totally new to me (except the ending).
Itachikun
2006-10-04, 09:28
omg, I knew I heard Light's VA somewhere, its Tamaki Suou VA from Ouran High School Host Club.... >_<
I'm the same as Scribble~ Minus knowing about the ending (but from the comments here I pretty much gathered what will happen >_< I hate spoilers).
LOL Itachikun. You and someone else complained about it. Thankfully I rarely recongnize seiyuu's so I never have this problem. :D
Chibi Nasu
2006-10-04, 10:30
Mamoru does do a lot of serious roles, though, so don't get stuck over Tamaki ^^ He's also voiced Kiba (Wolf's Rain), Riku (Kingdom Hearts), and Sakuraba (Eyeshield 21), among others. Maybe I'm biased, though. I've been a fan of his since before I even knew he was a seiyuu.
Well I think a more accurate way of looking at who is really sponsoring the show are the companies/producers listed under 製作 (not 制作). That's like... corporate production or something. Sometimes they hide them under a name like "something something 製作委員会"...
But afaik NTV is one of those more 'powerhouse' kind of TV channels. Somehow they tend to get more of the 'popular' kind of shows. I remember they have exclusive TV screening rights to Ghibli films and they even have (or had) a section on their page exclusively for Ghibli. Wikipedia has a list (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E6%97%A5%E6%9C%AC%E3%83%86%E3%83%AC%E3%83%93%E3%8 3%BB%E5%88%B6%E4%BD%9C%E5%B1%80%E5%88%B6%E4%BD%9C% E7%95%AA%E7%B5%84%E3%81%AE%E5%88%86%E9%87%8E%E5%88 %A5%E4%B8%80%E8%A6%A7#.E3.82.A2.E3.83.8B.E3.83.A1)
in Japanese of all the shows NTV has aired.... (Some are really old)
Perhaps it's more relevant to look at recent shows lik MONSTER, Gokusen, Hajime no Ippo, Ouran, and the hit NANA. Even Otogizoushi seemed like it was aimed more at casual...female... watchers.
I get a feeling NTV's late night slot is aimed significantly more at girls. (There's exceptions like Sasami Mahou Shoujo Club [which was originally aired on WOWOW, though] and Berserk - although Berserk was the one that started this latenight slot, it seems)
I also get a feeling they try to pick more 'high-profile' kind of shows.... shows that already have a large fanbase because of a manga or something or are linked to something with a large following.
Death Note is of course immensely popular, and I think it's certainly worth putting the money in for. For them to have gone to the extent of releasing a live-action movie (with another one being produced, iirc?) I think it must be an important enough property for them. Just whether they'll be able to keep it up for 37 episodes is another thing. It'd be noticeably harder to animate than MONSTER, I suppose?
Srin Tuar
2006-10-04, 11:16
I dont know if anyone has mentioned this but..
Death NoteBOOK
Its not a "note" its obviously a "notebook"...
Alot of the discussion has me wondering if this gairaigo hasnt started reverse conquering english...
ShikaShika
2006-10-04, 11:32
Yikes, good episode! Now if only there were some news saying that they'll be ending the anime at the end of part 1 of the manga.
Did someone say 37 episodes? I can't see that covering all of the manga, especially such a dialogue heavy one as Death Note.
^ Meh who says the title is referring specifically to the book? :p It could refer to the act of putting down notes that lead to death.
So...does anyone knows what the rose in the OP symbolizes? That's probably the only metaphor in the OP I can't really decipher.
The rest from Light eating an apple looking down to the Earth to him and that mysterious man standing in a railway tracks are pretty much self-explainatory for manga readers, but I don't quite get that particular rose. Anyone thinks they can think of something that makes sense in the Death Note context?
Yeah, I'm 95% sure there were no mention of roses in the manga. Doesn't seem to be anything that Ohba ever made up. I don't see where the railways tracks come from though (subways, but not railways :|), either.
Its not a "note" its obviously a "notebook"...
I heard that "note" is Japanese slang for notebook, or something like that...
Wow, thanks for the info NoSanninWa and lamer_de... that many sub groups is pretty incredible... Now I know to check out andewLB's wiki in the future about these things. Yeah I am still learning about essential features of the anime/manga-purveying community all the time... :o
I personally would really like to see the anime go through the entire manga, with the true ending. (And by the way, while the editor and Ohba did discuss the story's end from the onset, I believe Ohba wanted it to end that way. Most likely we'll know when HOW TO READ 13 comes out.) You know what'd also be cool, if they animated the Death Note novel about the BB case at the appropriate time as kind of a flashback... actually I fear that they wouldn't be able to capture the facial expressions as well as Obata if they were just making it up for the anime, so yeah I'm not sure if that'd be cool or not. But yeah the point of mentioning that was to say that it'd make the best filler if they ever made anything up that wasn't in the manga for the sake of the anime.
ShikaShika
2006-10-04, 11:45
I think it's just that ノート (note) is Japanese for notebook and entiteling the manga "Death Notebook" would be very redundant. Remember English speakers are not the main target audience here.
Nightengale
2006-10-04, 11:46
Yikes, good episode! Now if only there were some news saying that they'll be ending the anime at the end of part 1 of the manga.
If we're to take the OP seriously, I suppose it'll go past part 1.
After all, the OP does feature Light falling down head first and shattering like glass, hinting his eventual downfall.
Besides, unless they plan to drag drag drag and fill fill fill, there's no way they can contain Part 1 in 37 episodes. Even if that tennis episode was done in PoT style.
ShikaShika
2006-10-04, 11:56
If we're to take the OP seriously, I suppose it'll go past part 1.
After all, the OP does feature Light falling down head first and shattering like glass, hinting his eventual downfall.
Besides, unless they plan to drag drag drag and fill fill fill, there's no way they can contain Part 1 in 37 episodes. Even if that tennis episode was done in PoT style.
Well I suppose they could stretch part one to 37 episodes. I think part 1 ends at about chapter 60, which usually would require about 30 episodes to cover (for animes that don't contain much dialogue), but remember that they'd have to make their own original ending if the ended the anime there. :)
I'm absolutely not saying this will happen (it most likely won't), but I just cannot see 37 episodes covering the entire manga, it won't happen.
As for the spoiler, I have no comment. :)
Scribble
2006-10-04, 12:27
I've made up my mind, and though the issue right now is *if* they'll continue past "Part 1", I'm saying they definately "should". Especially if they can improve post Part 1.
Though many have said DN went downhill after Part 1, we hardly see situations in anime that are similar to the ending of part one. If Part 2 is as crap as people say, there's now a possibility that it'll be improved upon (though there's also a possibility of making everything worse) in the anime. I think it'll be exciting for non manga readers. I can imagine the "HOLY F****** CRAP" and "WTF"s on boards everywhere when it happens (and the constant posting of the same image of the scene on 4chan)
I keep mentioning non manga readers, but who here as actually NOT read the manga or doesn't know what happens?
Deathkillz
2006-10-04, 13:19
wow its a really nice first ep...
the dark and gloomy mood was definatly there :p
i loved how the emphisized on the "apple" in the Op song XD it kinda takes the piss on how much shimigamis love apples :p
SilverChakra
2006-10-04, 13:41
I haven't read the manga, but I am curious about watching the show though since L seems cute ;) haha! Think it will be good as an anime serie?
I haven't read the manga, but I am curious about watching the show though since L seems cute ;) haha! Think it will be good as an anime serie?
Doesn't seem as suspenseful as the manga, but you're still able to get into it and enjoy it.
SilverChakra
2006-10-04, 15:45
Doesn't seem as suspenseful as the manga, but you're still able to get into it and enjoy it.
Ooolraity :D
Itachikun
2006-10-04, 16:03
Define suspenseful, some people enjoyed Death Note for the brilliance that is and sure it's still the first episode, they always tend to be a non-hype episode. Looking at the preview, episode is when the show really gets interesting.
I want an apple!
Super Ska Master
2006-10-04, 16:54
I need it subbed, dammit! When is it coming out! >:O
I need it subbed, dammit! When is it coming out! >:O
When you all stop whining and complaining. Seriously, you people are already worse than nartuards and its only episode 1. It's all a conspiracy to spite you.
PEDOS_GRANDE
2006-10-04, 17:01
When you all stop whining and complaining. Seriously, you people are already worse than nartuards and its only episode 1. It's all a conspiracy to spite you.
Inbou..............
Super Ska Master
2006-10-04, 17:20
At least we actually have taste, unlike the narutards. =P
When you all stop whining and complaining. Seriously, you people are already worse than nartuards and its only episode 1. It's all a conspiracy to spite you.
Thanks for generalizing. I'll have you know I've been waiting patiently. :p
And seriously SSM, chill out. Constantly asking when something will be finished subbing will not make it come out any faster. You're lucky this isn't an IRC channel, or you'd have been banned long ago.
Catgirls
2006-10-04, 18:30
I need it subbed, dammit! When is it coming out! >:OPlease stop asking. Read this thread for more information:
-> Do NOT ask when the next episode will be released! (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=324)
Eventually someone will come by and delete your posts if you keep asking. So please, don't ask when the Sub will be out. Just relax and watch something else.
Thanks. =^.^=
Jubalint
2006-10-04, 18:40
Me and a few friends are working on a sub of Death Note, mainly just for fun. I expect that by the time our (crappy) sub comes out, all the cool groups will already have made awesome subs Very Happy. However, it seems like a fun way to gain some experience.
So far it's me (doing encoding, typesetting, timing, and editing), a friend of mine's doing QC and editing, and my roommate who's Japanease is doing the translations for us (he doesn't speak all that good of english tho, so I feel that were gonna be doing some serious editing of his engrish ;D), so if anyone else is interested in translating that would be cool.
Anyway, what I'm wanting help with right now is finding the song lyrics for the opening and endings. I know they're probably somewhere REALLY obvious, but I sure as heck can't find any more info about them besides the artist and the song names (from the official site). I don't think were going to be doing karakoe (at least not until I figure out how to do it Razz) but it would be nice to at least have the translations. So if someone could point us towards the kanji, we'd be really greatful. That's it.
Also if your interesting in helping out feel free to contact me. My e-mail is alternity[ at ]gmail[ dot ]com, thanks alot guys Smile.
guiltygearxt
2006-10-04, 19:09
nvm my post got moved
I'm waiting patiently too~ :p
It's all a conspiracy to spite you.
Hahaha nice one! "Welcome to the Fanclub (of Death Note? XD)"~
CarpeDiem
2006-10-04, 23:12
Being a big fan of the manga, I'm very pleased with how the Death Note anime came out. Perhaps I'm just being biased because I am a fan, but I think that Madhouse did a great job in producing this title. They did a really good job of setting the atmosphere of Death Note. The production values seem high in this series, so I'm expecting more great animation from it. Though it's only been one episode, I wasn't put off to the dialogue at all. I believe Madhouse was able to keep most of the core dialogue within series without boring the viewers.
Oh, and I really like the OP and ED.
I'll definitely keep my eyes peeled for this one.
xxxButterfliesxxx
2006-10-05, 01:10
Ummm...this may be a dumb question, but does anyone know if they're going to animate the entire series, as in all 12 of the manga, I mean why wouldn't they? And if they are animating all 12 manga then how many episodes would that be? Because I would love to see it all animated!^^
bluemist
2006-10-05, 01:24
The anime is slated for 37 episodes.
I keep pondering about the 37 episodes, and whether Madhouse will cover up only the first part of the manga or all of it.
37 eps. is kinda too long for 60 chapters (first part of manga) and kinda short for 108 (the entire manga). What do you think?
Nightengale
2006-10-05, 01:32
So far, it's hard to tell. It could cover 60 if they plan to drag out certain parts of the manga (( like Naomi Misora, damn there wasn't enough of her )), and increase the length of the Yotsuba Arc, but I don't think it's wise for Madhouse to adapt too closely to the manga's long explainations, thoughts and monologues. It's better if it was done slightly closer to the anime adaption of Yakitate Japan where they don't ignore the scientific values implemented in the bread, but they don't have a whole bunch of text telling what it is all about either.
I wouldn't mind seeing the tennis game played PoT style. :p
Maybe they'll "extend" the first part of the manga and create something original? :heh: Did a large majority of people dislike the second part? I know I did.
Nightengale
2006-10-05, 01:37
I have no proven sources, but from what I've heard, unlike the overall criticism DN recieved over it's 2nd part around the Interweb, it's something that isn't prevailent in Japan.
Japanese fans apparently doesn't care so much about drop in quality unless it is something horrid (( Like HxH's horrible art after Togashi's sickness )).
Japanese fans apparently doesn't care so much about drop in quality unless it is something horrid (( Like HxH's horrible art after Togashi's sickness )).
I'm not that far into the second part (somewhere in the mid-60s), but is there really a drop in quality, or do people just not like what happens?
Nightengale
2006-10-05, 01:59
I'm not that far into the second part (somewhere in the mid-60s), but is there really a drop in quality, or do people just not like what happens?
Let me put it like this. The current arc of Bleach doesn't look as hot as the SS arc. The current Naruto arc doesn't feel as intense and interesting as the Gaara/Sasuke arc. The previous arc of One Piece (( Davey Back )) has nothing on the Alabasta arc.
Death Note is said to have one of the most exciting starting arcs in any shounen manga ever. Hell, before the 2nd part started, people complained about the 2nd half of the 1st part, because it wasn't up to par with the 1st half, which was hailed as one of the very best, if not the best ways to start a manga. Most mangas start off mediocrely before sinking in, DN started with a blast.
So, when part 2 didn't live up to part 1's amazingness, people didn't like it. There were some other problems I could relate to as well, but overall, most people didn't like what they see. I liked it, but I could see 2 or 3 glaring problems in the 2nd arc too.
Loved the OP! Totally fits within the Death Note theme.
I loved the manga but if I had not read the manga and watched the first ep I probably would think the series would be boring...not saying that the ep was bad or anything but I don't think it did a good job of making viewers want to watch it more...
Not that they need it though...Death Note is hugh in Japan right?
Dont know if this needs a spoiler tag but I'll just do it just in case...
Is it just me or is the pacing of the anime a bit too fast in that they make Raito's character to act like a maniac too soon compared to the manga?
xxxButterfliesxxx
2006-10-05, 02:44
37 eps. is kinda too long for 60 chapters (first part of manga) and kinda short for 108 (the entire manga). What do you think?
I agree completly. But if they don't cover it all, where would they stop?
hopfully not right after "you probably know who" dies. that would be aweful to me...
What Nightengale said is completely true. At least for myself, anyway. In Death Note's 1st part 1st half, I've never experienced such thrill when reading manga.
More importnantly, I request from everyone to stop talking about the manga. Even those little comments "I hated the 2nd part" and "wait until that happens" does spoil the mood. Please make this thread solely for the anime. Should you have any comparisions with the manga, kindly put them in a spoiler. Thanks. :D
Li Jianliang
2006-10-05, 05:31
Lyrics moved~
To a more appropriate thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=698623&postcount=2).
Nightengale
2006-10-05, 06:05
Yeah, I'm 95% sure there were no mention of roses in the manga. Doesn't seem to be anything that Ohba ever made up. I don't see where the railways tracks come from though (subways, but not railways :|), either.
If you noticed, the underground subway scene kind of represents the hectic yet thrilling mind-battle between Light and L before L had a clue of who he might be, meaning the early half of the 1st arc where L didn't know who Kira is yet, but has somewhat of a clue based on the assumed evidence. That is represented by L taking slow steps towards Kira in the dark subway only illuminated by lights that represent the clues Kira left behind, while Kira merely stood still, because Light never really took it to himself to find out who L is.
Let's leave it at that till the anime shows more. As one who liked both arcs of the manga, I hate to derail into manga talk which frankly sickens me with the "2nd part sucks" talk.
Death Note is said to have one of the most exciting starting arcs in any shounen manga ever. Hell, before the 2nd part started, people complained about the 2nd half of the 1st part, because it wasn't up to par with the 1st half, which was hailed as one of the very best, if not the best ways to start a manga. Most mangas start off mediocrely before sinking in, DN started with a blast.
Now I'm really looking forward to it.. And I wont be disappointed with a comparatively lacklustre Part 2, if that happens.
Scribble
2006-10-05, 06:17
So far, it's hard to tell. It could cover 60 if they plan to drag out certain parts of the manga (( like Naomi Misora, damn there wasn't enough of her )), :p
Is Naomi Misora that woman who eats
[Major Spoilers, do not read unless you've read first part of manga]
She doesn't eat anything =P, but she's the woman that's investigating something and her name is written and she just disappears
If it is, then there DEFINATELY wasn't enough "screen time" for her in the manga. The "eating scene" would have more impact if she had more screen time in the anime.
But enough manga spoilers....
Nightengale, oh, I see, so you did mean railway. That's a good metaphor too from the way you describe it.
I'm not that far into the second part (somewhere in the mid-60s), but is there really a drop in quality, or do people just not like what happens?
Probably the latter. Both were very cleverly orchestrated, it's just the first had more intellectual "innovation" IMO (that is, in the first arc I was thinking "whoa so that's what up, sheer brilliance" while in the second arc I was thinking "awesome didn't see that coming", sans the "wow"). The second arc was way more dynamic than the first, in my opinion, which is why when I first read it, I felt like it had a lot of potential. Then when it got down into the final "section" I started to notice that it was winding down, and I guess that's when I first noticed it seemed less enjoyable than the first arc to me.
Lilith I don't think we should talk any less about manga although I suppose it's true it's good to use spoiler tags. It's good to make connections between the two. Although
the one good thing could be for people comment less on their opinion of the ending--if I hadn't read the manga already, I'm an example of someone rational enough to figure out something by analyzing the values of people who make seemingly subjective comments. Especially mentioning the possible opinions of people who are directly related to the series, like the editor.
Oh yeah and those lyrics are awesome. The ED sounds beautiful. I think it depicts a side to Light that people always either ignore or mischaracterize (that is, they usually think he's either mad or a perfect savior)--the side which is incredibly moral but which out of a desire for justice drove him to sacrifice his innocence.
Not sure how it was characterized in the anime, but in the manga, Light vomits at the thought of what he's done, and has difficulty sleeping and feels like he might definitely break from the pressure of the sin he's committing. There's no question that he sees what he is doing as murder, and as wrong, but that desire to achieve an ends from the means drives him to transform himself into Kira. When Light describes his perfect world of only "kind-hearted people who I accept", Ryuk notes that Light will be "the only bastard left", and Light doesn't disagree. Even though Light stops suffering most of the psychological effects of his immorality after a short, I think it's clear that he knows that his existence is evil--it's just that such evil is necessary for the world to know justice and be saved, so he is willing to place that existence (an existence that may be equated with the ideal of justice) as more important than any other person, just as his ideal of justice is.
Scribble, that's the one.
Lilith I don't think we should talk any less about manga although I suppose it's true it's good to use spoiler tags. It's good to make connections between the two.
Yes I agree, it is good. Might make the discussion more heated and enjoyable. :D Thanks for considering my suggestion of using spoiler tags!
Go go Death Note~ Rock the world because you're simply the best. [/fangirling]
Nightengale
2006-10-05, 11:11
Another OP metaphor I particularly liked was how Light was holding the vividly bright forbidden fruit he caught from the sky, walking on a small pathway/brick plank whatever, and when he looked down from the world from the sky, he decided to eat it. Note the vibrant vivid colour of the fruit amidst the gloomy atmosphere, a total contrast of colours.
It reflects how Light recieved a tempting forbidden power and like most humans, succumb to the temptation of power and utilized it, thus putting him on the road where he could fall down into eternal despair (( accidental murder that was both accidental and not accidental could do that to a weak mind )), return back to the past, (( he still haven't consumed the fruit and could still throw it away )) or be consumed by it's delightful power and taste and eat it (( abusing that power )), and when Light stood on top of the building (( looking down at the ugly world below him with his god complex )), he decided to take things into his own hands and consumed the forbidden fruit, eternally attached to a part of the power as he cleanses the world of evil in his own words.
hiroober
2006-10-05, 11:17
Hey guys, I've finished watching it yesterday.
The artwork is definitely beautifully done. The only thing that I may complaint a little is ....eh.. well, maybe only me think that way, but I do think Light is portrayed too dark, who is not so sombre and evil at that very beginning. Believe it or not, I'm a big fan of Light before L is killed by him. Overall, the tone is a little bit too dark for the set up scene.
Anyway, just to bring some of screensnaps to anybody who hasn't watched it. Enjoy.
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Nightengale
2006-10-05, 11:21
Edit : Post unneccesary now, thanks to Catgirls.
This really needs it's own section.
Srin Tuar
2006-10-05, 11:24
EDIT RIGHT NOW!! NO SPOILING!!
Lol, it seems I'm going to have to boycott this thread
At the end of episode one I thought L and Laito are the same person.
I'm clearly getting to much side band information through comments in this thread, even from fairly considerate posters.
アバヨ
hiroober
2006-10-05, 11:33
EDIT RIGHT NOW!! NO SPOILING!!
No one read hiroober's post PLZ.
well, I'm sorry....I thought it was not yet as much as spoiling it...:heh: or maybe there's different definition about what degree is considered as spoiling here....anyway, I won't do it again if it's forbidden here. (^_^; )/sorry
Catgirls
2006-10-05, 11:34
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Argh this is what I was afraid of~ Please don't leave the thread! :upset:
*pat pats hiroober* Anything is considered a spoiler. :p Just be on the safe side and put anything related to the manga (even a mere "I can't wait for ____") in a spoiler tag. :D
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ShikaShika
2006-10-05, 11:34
What Nightengale said is completely true. At least for myself, anyway. In Death Note's 1st part 1st half, I've never experienced such thrill when reading manga.
That's true for me as well. The first 30 chapters... were probably the most amazing chapters I've read ever (might be going overboard here, but that's how I felt at the time), the manga was just so incredibly smart! Unfortunately I felt the quality drop from 30 onwards. :(
I have a feeling I'm going to LOVE seeing the first 10-15 or so episodes though, judging by the first. :)
Apparently, there r many fans out here who have already read the manga and thus know what's goin on. Perhaps, we shld try to limit the spoiling down here. For those who wants to spoil themselves all the way... maybe shld go to the DN manga thread instead. Let's juz make the DN anime thread clean enuff...since it is only at episode one and I am quite sure that there r still lot of pple who haben read the manga yet. Don't u guys agree? :)
Catgirls
2006-10-05, 11:44
well, I'm sorry....I thought it was not yet as much as spoiling it...:heh: No worries. :) But anything for the manga should be considered a spoiler for the anime from this point forward … even the most minor details that reveal future events and what-not.
Thanks. :)
No worries. :) But anything for the manga should be considered a spoiler for the anime from this point forward … even the most minor details that reveal future events and what-not.
Thanks. :)
How about the fact that Light uses the Death Note to kill more people? Oh crap, I spoils! *writes own name in Death Note*
Just poking fun. :p Anyways, I'm one of those people who didn't think the 2nd arc was that bad. I mean sure, Death Note started off with a huge bang and by the time vol 1 was over, I was hooked. But anything that starts off that high/great is bound to come down at some point. Theoretically it could have maintained itself at the top...but I just think that it was such an amazing concept, added with the fact that the protagonist and antagonist were both such geniuses, made people's expectations too high. So much so that most people were disappointed with the ending. :heh:
But man, I'm still waiting to get ahold of the live-action movie version of Death Note...I keep watching the trailers for that on youtube over and over and...I just can't stop, lol. :heh:
Catgirls
2006-10-05, 12:34
Up for grabs if anyone wants to use either. /pun
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I've tried to shrink manga scans to 100x100 for avatars and failed completely...
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Man, he just comes off as having a big nose, Obata's beautiful expressions are diminished severely with size...
Ch. 30, where:Light is trying to remain calm while thinking of how to deal with Misa and her "inconvenient" bodyguard.
Welcome to the forums hiroober (bummer of a first post x.x) !
By the way, I have a question for those of you who've seen the raw. Only click if you've also read the manga.
The world of the reapers? I keep thinking that they might not have wanted to include it too much because they don't want to make reapers seem goofy with their clearly dark stylization, but it'd be great to see this animated. It's never necessary to show what happens in the reaper realm, technically, so I wasn't sure if they'd include it.
I agree completly. But if they don't cover it all, where would they stop?
hopfully not right after "you probably know who" dies. that would be aweful to me...
I could see these 37 episodes just being the first arc, the manga itself has a slow pace. So stretching out 1.5 chapters per episodes seem possible. Although I've been waiting for the sub to see what the anime is like, so I'm not sure what kind of pace they've already set up.
The world of the reapers? I keep thinking that they might not have wanted to include it too much because they don't want to make reapers seem goofy with their clearly dark stylization, but it'd be great to see this animated. It's never necessary to show what happens in the reaper realm, technically, so I wasn't sure if they'd include it.
It's the very first scene.
I have no proven sources, but from what I've heard, unlike the overall criticism DN recieved over it's 2nd part around the Interweb, it's something that isn't prevailent in Japan.
Japanese fans apparently doesn't care so much about drop in quality unless it is something horrid (( Like HxH's horrible art after Togashi's sickness )).
I call BS on this. :D
If you followed Japanese boards (including 2ch weekly shounen board) and various wj review blogs while the second part was running, you'd realize just how harshly it was recieved.
Super Ska Master
2006-10-05, 17:23
The group that subbed the promo said ep 1 should be out later today.
Nightengale
2006-10-05, 20:23
I call BS on this. :D
If you followed Japanese boards (including 2ch weekly shounen board) and various wj review blogs while the second part was running, you'd realize just how harshly it was recieved.
I'm talking about commercial acceptance. Not internet boards.
I'm talking about commercial acceptance. Not internet boards.
Exactly, how do you measure "commercial acceptance" and assume people don't care about quality?
Gundam SEED, despite is major critisms everywhere, was extremely successful commercially. Based on that, you're gonna make a general assumption that Japanese don't care about quality robot anime also?
I beg to differ.
I, for one, did not like your generalization of us Japanese public.
In my experience, I hardly ever came across positive remarks of the second part of Death Note.
I assume you are fluent in Japanese, and HAVE read/communicated with Japanese otaku, before passing those judgements?
bluemist
2006-10-05, 21:45
I'm talking about commercial acceptance. Not internet boards.
Okay, if you want a commercial acceptance example...
I was watching some morning news program, and they started with a rather interesting list of top 10 highest-selling... er... I didn't quite get if it was the novel or artbook, but most probably it was novel. It lists some years and the title of the series... then at the very bottom... #10: 2006: Death Note. Dunno if this is accurate (my Nihongo fails me) but in any case, Death Note has some #10 in all-time whatever chart it was. This is a mainstream morning news program, not some obscure anime program listing current top 10 manga or anything, so the list shouldn't be skewed towards otaku-oriented material.
Then I was walking around Shibuya (or Akihabara? can't remember) and glanced upon a bookstore. It had posters outside telling everyone the top selling books, then I saw Death Note at #1. This was around the end of August, IIRC the novel was released around that time, so it was probably the novel.
Therefore, the public probably didn't care whether part 2 was junk, because Death Note is popular even to this day.
Oh, and the second part of the movie is gonna premiere this month, too.
Nightengale
2006-10-05, 22:40
People in overall may notice that the quality had dropped (( in their opinion )), but at the same time, does that place them in the scenario that "shit, I'm gonna drop this stuff" and create a statistically proven backlash that rather than drawing more fans, it is losing fans? From what I've seen around, no. Rather, DN maintained an all-time high popularity. It can be argued statistically that GSD didn't do statistically so well compared to SEED and that it lost some fans, but the fact that both of them are commercially successful is a fact.
And yes, for your information, I can speak Japanese (( decently well enough for a normal conversation )), understand Japanese (( I'd understand 90% of everything I hear in Japanese, unless it's skewed/extremely complex )) and had spoken to Japanese female otakus during one of my exchange education trips to Japan. And just like an otaku, she does rabble on a little about minor details, drop in quality, inconsistency, etc etc etc, but at the same time, she was so smitten by that product that she continued buying it even when her otaku side thinks it wasn't as good as before.
Unlike HxH where loads of hate mail were sent to JUMP HQ due to the horrible drop in art or Rorouni Kenshin when that death scene happened in the Jinchu/Enishi arc, DN didn't suffer hate-backlash from overextending what some people thought would've been a fitting ending.
And yes, for your information, I can speak Japanese (( decently well enough for a normal conversation )), understand Japanese (( I'd understand 90% of everything I hear in Japanese, unless it's skewed/extremely complex )) and had spoken to Japanese female otakus during one of my exchange education trips to Japan. And just like an otaku, she does rabble on a little about minor details, drop in quality, inconsistency, etc etc etc, but at the same time, she was so smitten by that product that she continued buying it even when her otaku side thinks it wasn't as good as before.
Well, you spoke to fujoshi fans. that explains a lot.
Death Note popularity was half carried by fujoshi wooing over pretty boys, and didn't care for quality of a manga or anything.
Why you consider them the majority of Japan, I don't know.
But if you WISH to keep considering them the center of otaku culture, and base your opinions solely on that... then so be it.
Let's take Gundam Seed series for example.
By vast majority of Gundam fans, and anime fans, it's seen as a junk.
But due to MASSIVE fujoshi fan following, it was a successful hit.
So... since it made a lot of profit, you consider
"anime fans don't care for quality, because SEED was popular."
Eh, no. CERTAIN anime fans that were religiously in love with it made it successful.
Which can happen with anything.
But does that mean it's "anime fan's majority's opinion"?
HELL NO.
If a product hits a certain successful note with certain types of fans, it can become commercially successful.
I don't understand WHY you fail to see that.
I see your blind sight to be nothing but an insult to all of us Japanese.
peace.
Nightengale
2006-10-05, 23:50
I concede my defeat if that's the case. I won't argue with a full-fledged Japanese from my half-assed gained knowledge.
Let's end it at that. aohige - 1, Nighty - 0.
The group that subbed the promo said ep 1 should be out later today.
any word on that yet?
GameKyuubi
2006-10-06, 00:55
The group that subbed the promo said ep 1 should be out later today.
Which group would this be? Karehi?
Lol yay 2x noob post :D
Oh yeah Ryuuku gif I made yesterday
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/571/ryuuku2iw0.gif
Um, Live-eviL and Karehi are doing Death Note for sure. They've officially announced it. Live-eviL is the group that used to speed-sub Tsubasa Chronicle jointly with DB. The current Death Note staff are the L-E Girls. Hehe. Karehi did the promo yes, I've watched it too. As for Karehi though, a quote from #animecentral on irc.enterthegame.com regarding when they're planning to release:
[22:29] <@bayoab> apparently
[22:29] <@bayoab> shitgroup karehi is going to release DN tomorrow
[22:29] <@bayoab> come on other groups
:p
I've heard C1 Anime, Otaku-Fansubs, Seraph Fansubs and Toriyama World are supposed to be doing them too but haven't heard from them yet. Wonder what's up.
I'd leech both their releases and see which is better.
-Tsubasa
NoSanninWa
2006-10-06, 01:50
Toriyama World is getting back into fansubbing? Wow. Are any of the original fansubbers involved or is it totally revamped, like their manga team has been.
skywalker_623
2006-10-06, 02:01
Ahem... (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31664) ;)
It's been confirmed that the anime will be done by Madhouse, right? I have mixed feelings about that. While they're definitely capable of pulling out some sweet visuals, they haven't shown much in the way of animation l33tness in recent times, unless I'm forgetting something important. I mean, DN is mostly talking heads anyway--but IMO that gives them even less of an excuse to cut corners.
MadHouse... hmmm... they DO tend to skip scenes from the manga and leave out characters... just like what they did to Ichigo 100% But since the manga has already ended... I just hope they make the best out of it.
GameKyuubi
2006-10-06, 02:17
The only big difference I noticed in the first ep was that L/Right seemed more obviously driven by a hunger for power than a drive to make the world a better place. That kinda bugged me, but other than that I thought it was great.
GameKyuubi
2006-10-06, 02:47
I do honestly like the sound of Light better than Right. Was it ever determined which one was official?
Toriyama World is getting back into fansubbing?
DId they ever finish anything besides 2 or 3 manga series ?
I am sure that the official name is "Light" (I remember how manga fans made a riot because they liked "Raito" :p). Let me find a source...
Itachikun
2006-10-06, 04:36
Toriyama World is getting back into fansubbing? Wow. Are any of the original fansubbers involved or is it totally revamped, like their manga team has been.
I can answer that for you. Since people at the TW forums were believing that the site and group were going to be dead, a couple of forum goers decided to re-evaluate TW and re-distribue anime series. Taking permission from the main boss himself to use the name, he is actually on this team.
So it's kinda a new team, but some old people might come back if we show them this hope.
:)
StrawHatLuffy
2006-10-06, 04:47
I am sure that the official name is "Light" (I remember how manga fans made a riot because they liked "Raito" :p). Let me find a source...
Here: Manga scan of characters from vol 2; don't look if you don't want to be spoiled with L's look, though he's already in the OP...
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5199/deathnote02004kg3.th.jpg (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=deathnote02004kg3.jpg)
Well, on the whole I was very impressed with the first episode. Can't wait to hear how L will sound like.
Thanks StrawHatLuffy~ I quit googling because I kept getting results taht contain spoilers of the end or the movie. :heh:
MadHouse... hmmm... they DO tend to skip scenes from the manga and leave out characters... just like what they did to Ichigo 100% But since the manga has already ended... I just hope they make the best out of it.
You didn't watch Monster I take it. It supposedly almost follows the manga scene by scene
Jubalint
2006-10-06, 11:07
It does -.-. Amazing anime, but it was definatly a little slow at times. There are things to be said for not following word for word (or scene be scene).
GameKyuubi
2006-10-06, 14:51
Oh mah gawd I can't wait any longer >_<
*bounces in chair*
Zelene2004
2006-10-06, 16:28
Soooooo, are fansubs out yet?
I mean Kanon just aired yesterday and it's out.
Congratulation on having a subforum :D
^ No.. the fan sub is not out >.>
Itachikun
2006-10-06, 18:57
Give it one more day MAX.... or 6-8 hours or something....
People are having trouble with the subs already.
Deathkillz
2006-10-06, 19:40
man i can imagine the amount of stress the subbers must be having with like 4 new animes comming out every day :heh:
Matt Soulblade
2006-10-06, 20:22
Whoa subforum mode GET.
So, I wonder how this will turn out. A lot of monologues to be expected, but im having a lot of hope on this :)
Kaoru Chujo
2006-10-07, 00:10
...Monster...supposedly almost follows the manga scene by sceneHoney & Clover I was almost word for word and scene for scene from the manga.
Congrats for the sub-forum. Definitely worth it!:heh:
......... The fansubs is not even out and deathnote get its own subforum. Totally shocked! I can still understand why kanon get its sub forum so fast, but death note? Is death note really going to be that good.
Is death note really going to be that good.
*holds the pen and starts writing* ... :p
Yes, it's that good. I really appreciate the descision of making a sub forum. 40 minutes to go~ *fangirl screams*
NoSanninWa
2006-10-07, 04:27
I can still understand why kanon get its sub forum so fast, but death note? Is death note really going to be that good.
You are suffering from a misconception. It has nothing to do with Death Note's quality. We give forums for crap shows all the time. A forum is not a mark of quality. Lots of truly inspired shows never get their own forums. You'd be surprised how many quality shows never get a large audience.
We give forums to shows that garner lots and lots of posts. Even if they are bad, thoughtless posts about which character can kick another character's bottom. Well... as long as those posts aren't bad enough for us to delete them.
Death Note made the necessary number of posts/day over a sufficently extended period. Nothing more, nothing less.
PS. The manga was really all that good. So I am really hoping that the anime also Rocks my World. But that has nothing to do with it getting it's own forum.
ShikaShika
2006-10-07, 05:09
Now I'm really looking forward to episode 2, that was the part of the manga that really sealed the deal for me. :)
Nightengale
2006-10-07, 05:15
Toriyama World returns from retirement...with a facelift. and Episode 1. :)
BAH GAWD!! IT'S TORIYAMA WORLD!! WITH SUBBED DEATH NOTE EPISODE 1!!! BAH GAWD!!
And with 2 seeds only (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/lematha/Haha.jpg)!! This is so exciting that I'm actually cursing at uTorrent. :heh:
I've never watched anything subbed by TW but used to read their scanlations so I hope the translation's quality is as good (I couldn't care less about Karaoke and effects). :D
You are suffering from a misconception. It has nothing to do with Death Note's quality. We give forums for crap shows all the time. A forum is not a mark of quality.
Yep. Look, even absolutely average show like Suzumiya Haruhi got its forum, due to nothing but the hype. Why not give the same opportunity to real quality incarnate, i.e. Death Note ?
Toriyama World returns from retirement...with a facelift. and Episode 1.
Its only ep.1, but i predict them dropping.
DarknessTear
2006-10-07, 07:49
Don't bother watching TW's release, it has inaccurate typesetting, 3 liners and a terrible font.
Normally it's not a big deal, but first episodes give first impressions. If your first impression is bad because of some terrible fansub, you'll likely not care for the series afterwards. A lot of people don't give things second chances.
Don't bother watching TW's release, it has inaccurate typesetting, 3 liners and a terrible font.
Normally it's not a big deal, but first episodes give first impressions. If your first impression is bad because of some terrible fansub, you'll likely not care for the series afterwards. A lot of people don't give things second chances.
The translation should be fine though considering who translated it.
Yep. Look, even absolutely average show like Suzumiya Haruhi got its forum, due to nothing but the hype. Why not give the same opportunity to real quality incarnate, i.e. Death Note ?
Way to not read his post. It's due to thread traffic, nothing more, nothing less.
DarknessTear
2006-10-07, 08:17
The translation should be fine though considering who translated it.
Yeah, I don't question the translation.
Way to not read his post. It's due to thread traffic, nothing more, nothing less.
Yes, so ? There are STILL some series more deserving a space then some.
BTW, whats this about "Death Note seyuu corner" ? It wasnt in the raws...
ShadowClone
2006-10-07, 10:32
And with 2 seeds only (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/lematha/Haha.jpg)!! This is so exciting that I'm actually cursing at uTorrent. :heh:
I've never watched anything subbed by TW but used to read their scanlations so I hope the translation's quality is as good (I couldn't care less about Karaoke and effects). :D
Ummm...the early episodes of Naruto don't come to mind? :D
I don't know, but if their translation and subbing quality is anything as good as the one they did for Naruto (yes, even better than ANBU-AonE), then huzzah, I'm downloading it now!
PinkSpider
2006-10-07, 10:41
I read the manga halfway, stopped it... and now I am watching the anime series. hahaha. But anyway, it surprised me that the animation is so well done. Even the OP and ED themes are really nice. I am looking forward to the movie. (haven't watched it)
What's so cool about my revived interest in Deathnote is that the original setting of the university is the same university campus as mine. So there is a tint of indulging in self-appraisal. :P
As for translation, I think no translation is perfect but TW has pretty high quality translations. I don't really care, since nifty details don't bother me. hahaha
crealism
2006-10-07, 10:52
Okay, should I dl TW's release? There are over 3000 seeds right now. I dl-ed it up to 10% and read that they have typos..so I stopped the dl. Should I wait for L-E and the others?
and which group does the best subbing? i was pretty impressed with L-E's quick subbing of Tsubasa~
Squirrellord
2006-10-07, 11:15
Okay, should I dl TW's release? There are over 3000 seeds right now. I dl-ed it up to 10% and read that they have typos..so I stopped the dl. Should I wait for L-E and the others?
and which group does the best subbing? i was pretty impressed with L-E's quick subbing of Tsubasa~
We don't have any Typo's. What we have is a three liner in one place and some people don't like the font. We're just using the same font color from the old TW's releases. So give us a try, we're working hard for your guys entertainment. :)
Itachikun
2006-10-07, 11:26
This is why posts should be deleted by arrogant people saying subs are bad. We are doing a 2nd version, so please chill.
I dunno, the font is ok. Not too ugly, right size, and all that. Maybe the color is not a good choise, but i dont really care. Its not like its merging with the background, like i've seen in some releases of a certain very famous group ...
Deathkillz
2006-10-07, 11:35
We don't have any Typo's. What we have is a three liner in one place and some people don't like the font. We're just using the same font color from the old TW's releases. So give us a try, we're working hard for your guys entertainment. :)
geez ppl are so ungreatful these days -.- ive just saw the subs an i dnt get whts wrong with it...sure the font is a bit ugly but that can be put right easily...
btw whts "three liner in one place" mean?
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