Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS "Fan Anticipation Thread"

[Kikaifan]

I could have sworn there was a real-world mythological reference in there somewhere but Wikipedia isn't turning anything up. Guess if anything it's just Nanoha referencing El Hazard.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Wasn't Al Hazared where the genie's lamp was from? I mean in the actual story, not the disney thing. I'm very sure it has some connection to a place in middleeastern mythology. I'm remembering something about a dude with snakes for hands or something like that. Darnit, my memory is shot. And google turns up a bazillion hits which may or may not be retared, even more if you count the different ways it can be spelt.

[Kikaifan]

'Alhazrad' is the name of the Necronomicon's author in Lovecraft's stories. Al-Hazared is an alternate spelling. But that's not 'real' mythology as academics use the word...

That's the problem with using the internet for these searches; fictional uses of a name swamp the historical and literary... not to mention the people who can't spell 'hazard' correctly. If it wasn't so cold I'd head over to the library to check it out... maybe tomorrow.

Edit: Okay I went through pantheon.org and they don't have anything on it so I'm guessing it's not of mythological origin.

[CrossoverManiac]

Wasn't Al Hazared where the genie's lamp was from?

No, he was the author (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Alhazred) of the Necronomicon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon).

[Alavaria]

Gates of Alhazred... simultaneous attacks with dozens of Lost Logia. Scary.
I think there isn't an "s" on Gate of Babylon, but anyway..
you've seen the Unlimited Raging/Raising Hearts right?

[Kikaifan]

I can always weasel out by claiming I was referring to the Gates themselves rather than the ability.

[Deathkillz]

No, he was the author (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Alhazred) of the Necronomicon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necronomicon).
ahh seeing both words make always make me think of the series...Demonbane! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonbane)

[Xellos-_^]

It is not even 2007 yet and StrikerS already have 1000+ post.

Antone know when approximately S is premiering?

[Darco_emp]

Isnt it in Jan? I heard alot of different air dates but i hope is in early Jan.

Btw since i got baited in to sign up to suki after years of lurking, nice to meet u all.

[Kikaifan]

Nice to meet you too.

Does Shana's Rival Who Was Too Unimporant For Me To Remember actually have the same hairties as Hayate or is that some sort of jokepic?

[Darco_emp]

hmm, ur right they do have the same hair style, never noticed xD.and how could you call Yoshida chan unimportant :P.

Back to topic can someone explain the relationship between the Church and TSAB? they got no metion in season 1 and 2 but they seems to be a major organization in nanoha universe.

[houkoholic]

It is not even 2007 yet and StrikerS already have 1000+ post.

Antone know when approximately S is premiering?

They said 2007 spring. Spring season on Japanese TV means end of March beginning of April.

[Kikaifan]

Back to topic can someone explain the relationship between the Church and TSAB? they got no metion in season 1 and 2 but they seems to be a major organization in nanoha universe.

Since they call themselves Knights I'd guess they're primarily associated with Belkan culture and space.

Of course, we don't really know how ubiquitous the TSAB is and to what degree it is synonymous with Midchildan government and culture, but it seems pretty high so I'd guess that the Church is distinct from them.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Yo, Darko. Welcome to the boards and long time no see. In that I think we've never seen each other before. And I know how you feel about "unimportant" Yoshida. I'd remember that rack... er... smile anywhere.

Anyhow, until an official word is given (which it hasn't been yet) I'm gonna hope for January. A's release date was a suprise in that it came half a month earlier than the official word at the time said it would. Hopefully the extra months gave them lots of time to prepare for StrikerS.

Xellos - Yeah. Remember though that Nanoha fans are not only rabbid, we're starving. So unlike stuff like Typemoon which has a much more rabbid, much bigger fanbase, our's is just kind of backed into a corner, ready to devour the tiniest snippits of information in a furious feeding frenzy. We band together because that is what our white-clad leader teaches us to do when dark times loom.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Speaking of food

http://www.nanoha.com/


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[LoweGear]

So, what exactly does it say? O_o

[FlameSparkZ]

Hmm...
"Nanoha StrikerS Project comic market 71 exhibition" I think....

Does Shana's Rival Who Was Too Unimporant For Me To Remember actually have the same hairties as Hayate or is that some sort of jokepic?

It's Yoshida Kazumi...though I like Hecate more XD

[Darco_emp]

出展決定 is a bit more closer to display/ing comfirmed i think, I guess they do plan to get strikeS on air in winter/spring with the release of new nanoha manga and such.

Still thinking back at the end of A's i still can not belive we got another season of nanoha goodness :D

[Alavaria]

We band together because that is what our white-clad leader teaches us to do when dark times loom.
Do we also make friends with gererous use of Magic of Mass Destruction (MMD)?

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Indeed!
*punches him in the face with a golden glowing fist*
BE MAH FRIEND, BIYATCH!

*smashes FlameSparkz with a magical flaming porcupine to the nads*
YOU TOO!

Geez. This reminds me of highschool. Only with magic!

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Yeah, basically the site says they'll be giving us more info (hopefully an actual promo) at winter comiket which I believe is sometime in mod-late December.

[Maximum Burst]

Remind me not to meet Dragnfly@Gamefaqs in real life. *Casually slips away...*






*Punches Dragnfly@Gamefaqs from behind* HAH! SURPRISE, PUNK! BE MAH FREND!

[FlameSparkZ]

*punches back*

Yeah, that would be nice XD

[Kikaifan]

It's Yoshida Kazumi...though I like Hecate more XD

Well I would never forget Hekate... mainly because Hesiod is such a fanboy.

[Mincemaker]

*punches back*

Yeah, that would be nice XD

I used to, and still am wondering what happens if Nanoha accidentaly obliterates someone she wants to be friends with.

*Fires cluster missiles at FlameSparkZ*

[Alavaria]

She can only reduce them to 1HP.
Remember children, Starlight Breaker can be recieved on your Barrier Jacket (Fate-style) without serious harm!

*insert the "I am not a Starlight" jokes here*

[FlameSparkZ]

Well I would never forget Hekate... mainly because Hesiod is such a fanboy.

Itadaki no Hecate-tan was hilarious, Chibi-Hecate is very moe.

I wonder if they'll make another episode like they did to Shakugan no Shana-tan.
Because there's a OVA of Shakugan no Shana coming out Dec 8th

[Darco_emp]

I'm more looking forward to the release of the Novel 14, then the OVA personally, I really wonder will Yoshida chan become a flamehaze with the way the story is going, she did recive the token from Fileth and all.

back to nanoha, do you guy think there is any chance that nanoha's brother and sister is going fight with evil guys maybe, they do have insane swordsmanship and all, or it more like a vain hope

[FlameSparkZ]

I'm more looking forward to the release of the Novel 14, then the OVA personally, I really wonder will Yoshida chan become a flamehaze with the way the story is going, she did recive the token from Fileth and all.

back to nanoha, do you guy think there is any chance that nanoha's brother and sister is going fight with evil guys maybe, they do have insane swordsmanship and all, or it more like a vain hope

I've only seen as far as the Shakugan no Shana anime goes, so I don't really know what else is going on...

About nanoha: I seriously doubt it, they don't have any magical power, their swords would probably break when they clashed against a device or a barrier jacket.

Normal weapons can't do a thing against high-tech magical armor/weapons

[Darco_emp]

I wonder of they can get enchanted weapons, still i guess it very unlikely :(.

still new chapter looks interesting, wonders if that cannon can be using to amp up starlight breaker.

[Deathkillz]

well if nanoha has magic potential it could run through the family...maybe just not as strong as nanoha and the fact that they dont have any devices to awaken that power...but yea thinking about it again its probably a no as they are more of a support charater offering advice

[Kikaifan]

About nanoha: I seriously doubt it, they don't have any magical power, their swords would probably break when they clashed against a device or a barrier jacket.

Normal weapons can't do a thing against high-tech magical armor/weapons

I kind of agree because Fate goes through so much concrete apparently unharmed when she's fighting Signum, but on the other hand she routinely fights with Bardiche in Device Mode just using the physical blade against very heavily-armored opponents like Signum (before she had access to Haken) and the Book, so it might be that physical attacks can act as an equalizer when your opponent has an advantage in magical power.

Like there's only a basic level of physical defense in their armor that isn't as easy to increase as the magical aspect. That or they just 'tune' it to take magical damage over physical because magical damage is the type they're likely to receive in quantity...

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

*comes in through the skylight on a motorcycle*
*jumps off and ditches the bike into Kikaifan*

I agree with that. Note that when Vita broke away the jacket, she was practically dead. Other than he amazingly badass last attempt to shoot Vita before the cavalry saved her, she looked like she would die from internal injuries soon if help hadn't come so I do think physical damage is registered on a much grander scale.

Actually, one of my favourite scenes is when Reinforce punches through Nanoha's barrier. Until then we've always seen barriers need huge attacks and a lot of grunting and shouting to break through. She just decks it and BOOM! Shattered.

[Kikaifan]

*pulls out an RPG and blows it away in mid-air*

Actually, IIRC the only time we see a diagramic barrier broken before that is when Vita smacks Arf's with her hammer. And that didn't so much look to be a break as to have caused enough feedback that Arf lost the barrier, since it just faded out after the hit instead of shattering into a million pieces.

But that's why Reinforce is FTW.

[FlameSparkZ]

*surprise jump attack*

True, Reinforce dark version was insanely powerful, and probably was because of Hayate's intervention that she "split up", leaving the good Reinforce with Hayate and her knights, and only the Beserk Reinforce remained to fight Nanoha and the others.

The power of Yami no Sho probably came from it's original form as the Tome of the Night Sky, who's purpose was to learn as much magic as possible with it's master, but it got currupted, you know the rest.

That would explain how Reinforce dark version copies Fate and Nanoha's attacks and when it turned berserk how it materialized parts of the monsters whose linker cores devoured.

[Kikaifan]

We're kind of stuck in terms of not knowing how the original book functioned. Chrono described it as just an 'archival book' but it obviously had to be pretty powerful to begin with to end up the way it did. So how much of its exotic abilities to feed off of and fuse with the owner, absorb magic, create false worlds, create a body for itself, and use the magic it knows came from the original form is left to supposition...

[FlameSparkZ]

Lost Logia are truly amazing relics, I wonder how many there still are around there sleeping...waiting to be activated, to be used for good or for evil.

[Deathkillz]

tbh i dont think weve seen what Lost Logia can be used for (asides from destruction)...they kinda disappeared after season 1...hmm i bet they act like duracel batteries for Asura :heh:

[Alavaria]

tbh i dont think weve seen what Lost Logia can be used for (asides from destruction)...they kinda disappeared after season 1...hmm i bet they act like duracel batteries for Asura :heh:
Yami no Sho Lost Logia? I don't think that one disppeared yet lol

[Alavaria]

Actually, IIRC the only time we see a diagramic barrier broken before that is when Vita smacks Arf's with her hammer. And that didn't so much look to be a break as to have caused enough feedback that Arf lost the barrier, since it just faded out after the hit instead of shattering into a million pieces.

Arf used Barrier Breaker on Vita's shield in spisode two, before Vita smacked Arf. Also in Ep1 I think Vita broke though Nanoha's Round Shield and later on the Protection...

Ergh... quoted and didn't edit... we need a delete function or something...

[Kikaifan]

We didn't actually see what happened with Nanoha's shields, but they definitely didn't protect her completely...

With Vita it broke a barrier around her, didn't it?

[Alavaria]

Broke her um.."Panzer Hindergeist — Creates a domed shield that protects against everything in Vita's field of vision, but fails to protect against attacks coming from behind. Translated in the fansubs as "Tank Barrier"
Another time she used it the second time she fought Nanoha and Nanoha's Axel Shooter starting making little cracks in it (wasn't a dome that time, looked like a gem-like thing that surrounded her completely)

[Kikaifan]

Yeah I'm just talking about the diagramic shields, not barriers.

Are there any official stats on the characters? Age, birthdate, all that stuff?

[Maximum Burst]

Broke her um.."Panzer Hindergeist"

You combined two shields there hehe. I believe Vita has Panzer Hindernis (Tank Barrier), and Signum has Panzer Geist (Armor Spirit).

And K-Fan, as far as official ages go, I only know that in A's; Nanoha was 8, Chrono was 14, Amy was 16, Alph is 2 (but "adult form" is meant to look 16 years old), Vita is supposed to look 6 or 7, Signum is supposed to look 19, Shamal is supposed to look 22, and Zaphira is supposed to look 20.

[Alavaria]

I blame the stupid Wiki thing.. I thought it sounded different....

[Kikaifan]

I always thought Signum looked older than Shamal. Guess I'm just influenced by their behaviors.

[panzerfan]

Nanoha... having seen a little into the newly released part of the comic, I thought of only one Heinz Guderian over her specialization with tactical doctrines, weapon R&D and her whole focus of mobility. The picture with her holding a buster rifle gun just cements that in.

Now where's her funnels?

[Xellos-_^]

Nanoha... having seen a little into the newly released part of the comic, I thought of only one Heinz Guderian over her specialization with tactical doctrines, weapon R&D and her whole focus of mobility. The picture with her holding a buster rifle gun just cements that in.

Now where's her funnels?


The funnels belong to Providence Hayate.

Chibi Renage Funnel System :p

[panzerfan]

But a certain white devil has'em on the nu Gun***...

[FlameSparkZ]

You combined two shields there hehe. I believe Vita has Panzer Hindernis (Tank Barrier), and Signum has Panzer Geist (Armor Spirit).

And K-Fan, as far as official ages go, I only know that in A's; Nanoha was 8, Chrono was 14, Amy was 16, Alph is 2 (but "adult form" is meant to look 16 years old), Vita is supposed to look 6 or 7, Signum is supposed to look 19, Shamal is supposed to look 22, and Zaphira is supposed to look 20.

Hmm, weren't Nanoha and Fate 9 years old? That's how it goes in the comics...

I think you took 1 year off everyone :D

[JediNight]

The "looks like" ages are way different than what the studio says they are supposed to be *shrug* :)

Technically 3rd grade is 8 years old...

IMHO this is how I see the ages of everyone: Nanoha 11, Fate 12, Chrono 13, Amy 17, Vita 9, Signum 21, Shamal 26, Alph human-form 19, Zaphira 25.

[Deathkillz]

Shamal 26
i know that shes the mother figure but 26 is too much imo >.<
she doesnt seem that much off from Signum so about 22-23 i guess

[kari-no-sugata]

Technically 3rd grade is 8 years old...

8 at start of school year, 9 by end of school year.

Given that the Japanese school year starts in spring and Ace's is set in December time-frame it wouldn't be surprising for most of the "3rd graders" to be 9.

[JediNight]

My point was more that most of the characters in the show look off by far more than 1 year to their stated age.

[Maximum Burst]

Hmm, weren't Nanoha and Fate 9 years old? That's how it goes in the comics...

I think you took 1 year off everyone :D

I got my information from the Japanese wikipedia article, except for Chrono, Amy, Vita, and Zaphira. I got their ages from the DVD bonus things.

[Alavaria]

The funnels belong to Providence Hayate.
Chibi Renage Funnel System :p
Nanoha has Axel Shooter - 12 balls worth. That should be funnel-ish..

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

I find it's generally a bad idea to even compare ages of anime characters. Reason being, to make the shows appealing the ages usually never match their personality, yet to keep fanservice in check the appeareances can't match the ages either.

[Kikaifan]

Actually, I was playing with stats with that one fanart where all the characters are lined up, and the girls are all very short for their ages. That or Reinforce and Lindy are like 6 feet tall and Zaphira is a freaking giant.

[FlameSparkZ]

Zafira is probably and almost certainly one of the tallest characters in A's.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

I think Zaphira and Precea come in as the tallest people in the series. So if you gauge of them and, say, Vita who's likely the shortest, it'd likely work out somehow.

[Petco]

^ disturbing innit!? :p

and wtf is with the "4kids" sign on the image? its bad enough making the title sound baby but the plot is a lot deeper than any 9yrs old kid can understand and fully appreciate T_T

Ok, this is a late post, but if 4Kids or any other station takes Nanoha and dubs it. Then we might as well have an entirely new series, a kiddy series that is.

Instead of Fate getting whipped by her mom, you'd see her mom just say nasty things to her like "Fate you're worthless", then Fate would cry and then Precia would leave. Arf would come(in her chibi form or so, this is censored) and say "Wow I can't believe she called you worthless, I knew it we should have not come to see her".

Besides censorship, dubs kill part of the show too. No more Nanoha combining Japanese and Engrish for awesomeness, no more anyone combining those two languages together in one sentences :(.



The top paragraph leads me to another statement, Nanoha would be "good to go" on something like 'Adult Swim'. That's the perfect place to put Nanoha, the thing is they really need to have subs or it really degrades the show a bit.

Of course, they're better off starting with the second season of Nanoha and saying that they're starting with the second season of Nanoha to viewers. Since Nanoha season 1 starts off pretty much just like another "kiddy" magical girl series until episode 4, and season 2 starts right off the bat.

@Deathkillz: 26 is not old at all, you can still look like you've just graduated highschool(17-18 years) and be in the 30s. One of my friends is 28 and he looks like he's 19 or so(many people mistake his age).

Is there a Nanoha IRC channel btw?

[Kikaifan]

Zafira is probably and almost certainly one of the tallest characters in A's.

Yeah, but he would be over 7 feet if Fate, the tallest of the girls, is of even average height for her age. I just think that art is inaccurate...

[Xellos-_^]

Yeah, but he would be over 7 feet if Fate, the tallest of the girls, is of even average height for her age. I just think that art is inaccurate...


Well both Arf and Zarfia are able to change shape and in Arf's case even her age. I don't think it is too far fetch that Zarfria would make himself bigger then normal. At 7 ft, while big isn't that off the norm.

[Kikaifan]

Same method would put Nanoha's dad past the 99.96th percentile for height in Japan. Graham would be like six and half feet too.

[Xellos-_^]

Same method would put Nanoha's dad past the 99.96th percentile for height in Japan. Graham would be like six and half feet too.


Graham is british so while that is still taller then avg it isn't unheard of.

Nanoha's dad otoh, he could be a mutant :p like yao ming (finest example of genetic engineering).

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

I'd go with "they didn't do the height chart accurately" just because, as I said before, charts ultimately don't really matter.

I dunno tho. Shiro could be super tall. We can assume he was stretched on a rack at some point and maybe pulled by horses. Then there's that incident in space with the solar rays or whatever.

[Xellos-_^]

Then there's that incident in space with the solar rays or whatever.


That would account for Nanoha :p

[Kikaifan]

HAH. I... I'm just padding because that was too funny not to respond to but 'hah' isn't exactly 10 characters.

[MeganeShounen]

That would account for Nanoha :p

I think I've heard somewhere that Nanoha might have gotten her uniquely powerful magical prowess from her Dad... (aherm, Kinimoto Sakura and Clow Reed? Wowzer.) I know it's already been said and done, but I can't stop thinking about it...

[CrossoverManiac]

If anyone's interested, I just finished making a Nanoha AMV (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=132637).

[FlameSparkZ]

I think I've heard somewhere that Nanoha might have gotten her uniquely powerful magical prowess from her Dad... (aherm, Kinimoto Sakura and Clow Reed? Wowzer.) I know it's already been said and done, but I can't stop thinking about it...

I don't know, that wouldn't make much sense...I'm more into the theory that she's an exception in her family, the genes instead of going into physical talent went the opposite way, magical talent...or something like that.

Something that I've been thinking about is "Just how old Fate really is?"
Precia lost Alicia 26 years before Nanoha met Yuuno and she became a magical girl.
That's a big gap there, either after Alicia died, Precia immediatly tried to clone her and failed several times, or only thought of cloning her some years later.

Then, there's the "How was Fate cloned?" thing:
Two options for that one...First, Precia cloned Alicia making Fate, but still a baby. Precia then creates (or created already) Linith to raise Fate and so on...

Second, and more plausible, the cloning process jumped the "baby phase", making Fate look just like Alicia before she died, then Precia gave her Alicia's memories and Linith raised her.

If this is true then, tecnically, Fate isn't as old as Nanoha...

[LoweGear]

I don't know, that wouldn't make much sense...I'm more into the theory that she's an exception in her family, the genes instead of going into physical talent went the opposite way, magical talent...or something like that.

A few of possibilities exist on that line:

- She's the first of her kin to have magical abilities, making here a mutation (that sounds SO off...)
- A distant ancestor with magical prowess, manifesting several generations later with Nanoha
- A yet undisclosed incident that granted Nanoha magical powers in the past, yet she doesn't make the connection.

Or maybe, she's just that good :D

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

I dunno. Shiro did some pretty superhuman crap with his swords.

[FlameSparkZ]

A few of possibilities exist on that line:

- She's the first of her kin to have magical abilities, making here a mutation (that sounds SO off...)
- A distant ancestor with magical prowess, manifesting several generations later with Nanoha
- A yet undisclosed incident that granted Nanoha magical powers in the past, yet she doesn't make the connection.

Or maybe, she's just that good :D

I go for the second option...seems reasonable.

[Furyou Miko]

No idea about Shiro's swordpowers, but an idea put forward in another place is that traditional <i>Ki</i> (breathing) excersises might be based off basic magical techniques, but don't work because the knowledge of how to access the linker core was lost.

If I can go back to the point about Linker Cores and how they work, maybe the clue is in the name. "Linker" - that implies to me that it's connecting two things. Perhaps the Linker Core allows a connection to form between the Device and the background magic...

Which would explain how Nanoha fired off Starlight Breaker even after having her Core drained - SB takes power from the surroundings directly, rather than being forced to channel them through the Core.

By draining a creature's Linker Core, you gain access to any magical power it had drawn already but not released yet. You also gain the spells 'instinctive' to that Core - remember, when Yuuno used Raging heart to try and seal the Seed in S1E1, he didn't use the same incantation Nanoha did, suggesting that spells are person-specific not device-specific, and he told her to "listen to the words in her heart" to figure out the sealing spell.

In this thinking, the point of an Intelligent Device as opposed to a Storage Device is that the ID "remembers" the spells of its' wielder allowing it to cast them without needing a cue. That relegates Storage Devices to being a crude kind of cartridge - the Storage Device acts as a magical battery that can make up for an insufficient background power or a low-grade linker core.

[Deathkillz]

Which would explain how Nanoha fired off Starlight Breaker even after having her Core drained - SB takes power from the surroundings directly, rather than being forced to channel them through the Core.

not really...cause the magic was already collected above nanoha ready to fire before her linker core was tapped...all she had to do was to fire it off...and that she did :)

[Kikaifan]

The devices process magic- basically, they can form a spell faster than a human can. Intelligent Devices can cast auto-guards and can do more of the work, but Storage Devices do it faster.

[LoweGear]

IMHO, Basically the difference between Storage Devices and Intelligent Devices can be summed up in a car analogy: Manual or Automatic, respectively.

Sure, Automatic transmission takes care of gear shifting and other menial control tasks for you, allowing you to focus on the more important matters. However, a manual transmission gives you more control over the finer details of the power transmission, giving you more options in certain conditions like defensive driving.

Which makes me realize how 1337 Chrono is because he can perform powerful spells with his S2U =D

[CrossoverManiac]

Something that I've been thinking about is "Just how old Fate really is?"
Precia lost Alicia 26 years before Nanoha met Yuuno and she became a magical girl.

That would mean that Alicia was born 33 years before the events in Nanoha. Unless Precia was a teen mother, that would put her at least in her 50's if not older. She certainly aged well.

[Darco_emp]

Not just Precia age well, Lindy should be atleast 36 at start of StrikeS and she look about 25 in my book

[Furyou Miko]

Who knows how quickly Midchildans age? They may look human, but Yuuno can turn into a ferret, and since he did while knocked out and badly drained, that suggests it might be his natural form. Not to mention he refers to it as "his other form" rather than "while he was transformed".

Anyway, listings of releases have come out, and while there's some interesting stuff - no StrikerS, so I guess that means it's slated for winter 2007 rather than spring as some hopefuls were rumouring.

http://www.moetron.com/2006/12/05/number-of-premieres-this-winter-season-37/

[LoweGear]

He did however refer to his human form as his "true form" when he first boarded the Asura. So while it may be his other form, it's not his original form. It just might be like in Arf's case, his ferret form just consumes less magical energy, so he transformed into that form so he could heal his injuries faster. And being a ferret does have other... advantages... :rolleyes:

[CrossoverManiac]

Who knows how quickly Midchildans age?

Or it could be like The Slayers: magic has the added perk of extending the normal lifespan. Rezo barely looked 25 and he's at least over 100. Either than the Midchildan year is 1/3 that of Earth's :heh:

They may look human, but Yuuno can turn into a ferret, and since he did while knocked out and badly drained, that suggests it might be his natural form. Not to mention he refers to it as "his other form" rather than "while he was transformed".

I hope not, but I doubt it. Yuuno could have used the last bit of his strength to take a form that has the best chance to stay with Nanoha, and we don't know if he really was referring to his human form as anything other than his true self.

Anyway, listings of releases have come out, and while there's some interesting stuff - no StrikerS, so I guess that means it's slated for winter 2007 rather than spring as some hopefuls were rumouring.

http://www.moetron.com/2006/12/05/number-of-premieres-this-winter-season-37/

Now I know not to sit around and wait on it. Till then, I go watch my copies of Live Action Sailor Moon.

[Nemesis]

Has the OVA aired yet?

[LoweGear]

There won't be an OVA. StrikerS is a 13-episode TV series set to air next year.

[Xellos-_^]

There won't be an OVA. StrikerS is a 13-episode TV series set to air next year.


Wasn't there a rumor Hayate OAV that was usppose to be release around this time. The news came out just a bit before Striker S was announce.

[LoweGear]

Dunno what happened to that. As far as I can tell, all news related to Nanoha from that point on after the OVA was announced have been about StrikerS, making me think the Hayate OVA was just premature conjecture, or a vapor project.

[Kikaifan]

Or it could be like The Slayers: magic has the added perk of extending the normal lifespan. Rezo barely looked 25 and he's at least over 100. Either than the Midchildan year is 1/3 that of Earth's :heh:

Uhm, I think Rezo's lifespan might be attributed to his demonic possession. Similar deal with Halcyform.

But we do know that Precia had the ability to sustain her life to a certain limit using magic.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

The "Hayate OAV" was announced some time ago, tho the Hayate part was just fan rumour. They just said OAV. It was back before StrikerS was announced. Then there was a big suprise when fans went to the official website and found that it was just a mislead, and that a 3rd TV series was their true goal. Needless to say, it made a lot of us really happy:)

As for StrikerS's release date, I'll hold off judgement until after we see what they're cooking up for that convention at the end of the month. Moonphase and such didn't announce series like BPS or Mouse until less than a month before they aired. These lists are far from perfect.

[Darco_emp]

I'm still hopeful for a early air of strikerS. If its to be aired at winter 2007, i'll have nanoha withdrawn

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Well, with some twists of logic Jan 2007 is still winter 2007:)

I know that holds as much weight as a paper airplane, but it helps me to feel better and keep my tail wagging happily.

[IchiKyo]

There won't be an OVA. StrikerS is a 13-episode TV series set to air next year.

Wot? 13 Episodes again? Where did you get that News? :heh:

[LoweGear]

Wot? 13 Episodes again? Where did you get that News? :heh:

Going by the logic of "seasons", and going by the pattern so far, it's safe to assume this'll be 13 episodes, until they say otherwise.

[Nemesis]

um guys refresh my memory again.Why does yuuno like nanoha?

[Potatochobit]

because she's hot and he's seen her in her underwear sleeping at night.
oh yeah, and she gave him a bandaid for his boo boo's in the first episode.

[Mincemaker]

because she's hot and he's seen her in her underwear sleeping at night.
oh yeah, and she gave him a bandaid for his boo boo's in the first episode.

You mean Nanoha's kindness got to Yuuno?

But yeah, being with a girl, seeing her fight, socialize, eat, sleep and all that, could factor in to Yuuno's attraction to Nanoha, even if he was in ferret form.

[Nemesis]

because she's hot and he's seen her in her underwear sleeping at night.
oh yeah, and she gave him a bandaid for his boo boo's in the first episode.

Oh god i hope not.Next thing you see is yuuno lusting for nanoha and nanoha wacking him away.

[Kikaifan]

Her relative social isolation and the need for secrecy in their magical-type activities forced him into a role as her confidante. Also, there's the mere proximity effect. He would have had a good chance before Fate showed up.

Can anyone understand what Hayate is saying when she gives Reinforce all her titles in A's? I got 'tsuyoku sasaerumono,' but I have no idea what she's saying before 'oikaze' and 'air.' kahou no' and 'shukufuku' maybe?

[Alavaria]

Oh god i hope not.Next thing you see is yuuno lusting for nanoha and nanoha wacking him away.
you forget that getting whacked by nanoha makes you want to be her friend .... hehe :)

[Xellos-_^]

you forget that getting whacked by nanoha makes you want to be her friend .... hehe :)

But only if they are still alive afterward.

[Deathkillz]

seriously ive just been speed watching A's again and i found it really funny that nanoha is asking vita to stop and to explain why she is attacking while holding her at gun point :heh: gets to me every time XP she really need to learn that hostility isnt going to make someone stop! *unless they are dead*

i hope someone dies in strikerS this time instead of joining the "fun fun friends group" :p

[Petco]

i hope someone dies in strikerS this time instead of joining the "fun fun friends group" :p

Precia was killed (though Nanoha and company didn't kill her) by suicide. So I guess the 'true' evil villains will die. There wasn't really any in the second season.



Speaking of Nanoha, I'd want her to be my daughter. I mean, wouldn't you want a daughter who practically teaches themselves and beat up people to make them their friends?

[Xellos-_^]

Precia was killed (though Nanoha and company didn't kill her) by suicide. So I guess the 'true' evil villains will die. There wasn't really any in the second season.



Speaking of Nanoha, I'd want her to be my daughter. I mean, wouldn't you want a daughter who practically teaches themselves and beat up people to make them their friends?

We never saw Precia die. We saw her and Alicia's body get suck into the void but thats different form dying. She could very well have been right and did open the gate to El Hazard the Maganificent World.

[Alavaria]

If Nanoha had the time to SB Precia I daresay that she, too, would be a member of the NHHJ-dan

[Darco_emp]

If Nanoha had the time to SB Precia I daresay that she, too, would be a member of the NHHJ-dan

The horror, still i daresay that i dont see that in strikerS nanoha gang is not to kill anyone, afterall they are only 16.

[Nemesis]

But only if they are still alive afterward.

Pls take note yuuno is not keitaro urashima from love hina

[Alavaria]

And Fate isn't either but she can take a SB and live...

That and Yuuno's Ferret Mode is soooo cute!!

And Precia wasn't young enough to join the NHHJ-dan. At least before StrikerS, you had to be a loli to enter. Ability to magically blow up the world is a plus.

[Kikaifan]

If Nanoha had the time to SB Precia I daresay that she, too, would be a member of the NHHJ-dan

Lol, Precia would've wiped the floor with her in a fight. Or should I say, whipped the floor? Would've been interesting. Nanoha seems trauma resistant, but I think Fate would've realigned her loyalties real fast in that scenario. Think Vader at the very end of Return of the Jedi. Except she'd live, 'cause Fate rocks.

Plus, if she friended Precia the 'critically ill' thing would already have been done and where would Hayate be?

[Nemesis]

i bet yuuno's situation is something like this.

http://acatisfinetoo.com/edible/nanoha/as_nano69.html

[FlameSparkZ]

^ Life's hard when you're just the sidekick...

Can anyone understand what Hayate is saying when she gives Reinforce all her titles in A's? I got 'tsuyoku sasaerumono,' but I have no idea what she's saying before 'oikaze' and 'air.' kahou no' and 'shukufuku' maybe?

Yeah, "Snow Rain" makes it difficult to undertand what she's saying...

seriously ive just been speed watching A's again and i found it really funny that nanoha is asking vita to stop and to explain why she is attacking while holding her at gun point :heh: gets to me every time XP she really need to learn that hostility isnt going to make someone stop! *unless they are dead*

i hope someone dies in strikerS this time instead of joining the "fun fun friends group" :p

I made that happen in a story, and he was a good guy too...but it was an honrable death.

We never saw Precia die. We saw her and Alicia's body get suck into the void but thats different form dying. She could very well have been right and did open the gate to El Hazard the Maganificent World.

Or they could still be in the void floating about :D

[Kikaifan]

Alicia would make one hell of a villain. After what happened in that dream world I don't think Fate would be able to fight her.

[CrossoverManiac]

We never saw Precia die. We saw her and Alicia's body get suck into the void but thats different form dying. She could very well have been right and did open the gate to El Hazard the Maganificent World.

Either that or the Satellite of Love.

Precia: I'M SORRY FOR WHIPPING THE @$%# OUT OF FATE! PLEASE, GOD, NO MORE BAD MOVIES!

Pearl Forrester: *holding a copy of Battlefield Earth* Quit whining bimbo and take your medicine.

Edit: It's corny, but I was in a hurry. Now off to bed.

[Alavaria]

Lol, Precia would've wiped the floor with her in a fight. Or should I say, whipped the floor? Would've been interesting. Nanoha seems trauma resistant, but I think Fate would've realigned her loyalties real fast in that scenario
Nah, I think one Fate saw Nanoha charging that Starlight Breaker shewould jsut freeze and run away or something. You know, having just gotten whacked by one of them. And I think Chrono and Yuuno would be able to distract Precia or else cover Nanoha long enough for SB to go off...
Oh yeah and if Fate turned around and starting helping Precia again, then we'd have to go through the whole "making friends" process... :D

Satellite of Love..?
Alicia would make one hell of a villain. After what happened in that dream world I don't think Fate would be able to fight her.
That's OK. I think Nanoha would just want to be friends ... hehe :)

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

I too think that Precea would've completely kicked Nanoha's butt. Nanoha wasn't quite at her "eat her own flesh to keep from starving" stage of awesome power then. And I too think Fate would've sided with her.

That said, yeah, Alicia would make a great villain. I could see her blaming Nanoha and Fate for what her mother had to go through.

[FlameSparkZ]

I too think that Precea would've completely kicked Nanoha's butt. Nanoha wasn't quite at her "eat her own flesh to keep from starving" stage of awesome power then. And I too think Fate would've sided with her.

That said, yeah, Alicia would make a great villain. I could see her blaming Nanoha and Fate for what her mother had to go through.

Hmm, it was Precia's fault in the first place, making experiments with illegal materials that caused Alicia's death in that accident. ("Bring your daughter to work" day?)

She tried to play God when she started the "Hydra" project and payed for it...
Though, the way Amy pronounced it in episode 10, it sounded more like "Yggdra"

[Nemesis]

Wonder if there will be a magic scroll type lost logia.

[CrossoverManiac]

Satellite of Love..?

Mystery Science Theater 3000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MST3K)

[Deathkillz]

I too think that Precea would've completely kicked Nanoha's butt. Nanoha wasn't quite at her "eat her own flesh to keep from starving" stage of awesome power then. And I too think Fate would've sided with her.

That said, yeah, Alicia would make a great villain. I could see her blaming Nanoha and Fate for what her mother had to go through.
LOL now thats a scary thought :uhoh:
would be kinda stupid for alicia to pop out of the blue again ~ isnt she dead :twitch: *dramatic music* plus she doesnt seem like that kind of person to get revenge...

ill still pretty much think that precia has kicked the bucket or rather she wont want to spend time comming back if she has found "the holy land"

gah need inspiring new villians >.< i want blood! *laugh*

[Kikaifan]

Nah, I think one Fate saw Nanoha charging that Starlight Breaker shewould jsut freeze and run away or something. You know, having just gotten whacked by one of them. And I think Chrono and Yuuno would be able to distract Precia or else cover Nanoha long enough for SB to go off...
Oh yeah and if Fate turned around and starting helping Precia again, then we'd have to go through the whole "making friends" process... :D

I meant that Fate would switch to Nanoha's side while Precia was playing her like an electric guitar, ala Vader betraying the Emperor while he's lightning-ing the crap out of Luke. But seriously, Precia's lightning bullshit is way too good. If it can oneshot the Asura and Fate at the same time I think it's a match for anything the main characters can throw.

Man, I'm just full of bad puns lately.

[Petco]

I could see her blaming Nanoha and Fate for what her mother had to go through.

Now, I've seen that type of story happen before, quite a few times. Good/Main character person A kills Good(But not main) character B's evil evil mother(for example).

Good character B blames Good/Main character A for turning his/her mother evil, and killing the mother.


Uhh, anyway I just hate those types of stories.

And I think Alicia would make a better 'good guy', I mean I really liked that Alicia in Fate's dream. Dream Alicia even felt sorry for Fate for Precia torturing and treating her badly(apparently), when she said "You'll get the happiness you deserve" and "When I died, Precia cracked"(or something like that).

[Nagumo]

You know... A thought just occurred to me. Do we even know if Precia was married or something?

I mean, I'm sure Alicia (prior to being killed) came from somewhere.

So whose the father?

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

I don't think they ever say who. I've said a few times that I'd love for Mr. T (Testarossa) to show up and throw Nanoha helluva far. Since he's not mentiontioned, perhaps it's a shameful situation. But alas, that blonde hair must've came from somewhere.

[CrossoverManiac]

You know... A thought just occurred to me. Do we even know if Precia was married or something?

I mean, I'm sure Alicia (prior to being killed) came from somewhere.

So whose the father?

A very lucky man...at least until she flipped out.

[JediNight]

Hmm, it was Precia's fault in the first place, making experiments with illegal materials that caused Alicia's death in that accident. ("Bring your daughter to work" day?)

She tried to play God when she started the "Hydra" project and payed for it...
Though, the way Amy pronounced it in episode 10, it sounded more like "Yggdra"

Yeah I took it to be Yggdra as well, aka Yggdrasil for those aware of that name.

[Petco]

Do we have some IRC channel for Nanoha? If not, we should set up one.

[Kikaifan]

And I was getting along so nicely not having IRC.

[Deathkillz]

A very lucky man...at least until she flipped out.
he probably got dissected as one of precia's experimental subjects :uhoh:

[FlameSparkZ]

he probably got dissected as one of precia's experimental subjects :uhoh:

He probably died the same way Alicia did, but Precia cared more about her daughter...
Or, after the loss of Alicia, he saw her "go bananas" and thought best to leave while he was still alive and breathing.

[guest]

Hmm, it was Precia's fault in the first place, making experiments with illegal materials that caused Alicia's death in that accident. ("Bring your daughter to work" day?)
She tried to play God when she started the "Hydra" project and payed for it...
Though, the way Amy pronounced it in episode 10, it sounded more like "Yggdra"
You know... A thought just occurred to me. Do we even know if Precia was married or something?

I mean, I'm sure Alicia (prior to being killed) came from somewhere.

So whose the father?
I got this info online which I think might answer some of you guys’ questions. It is from the novel of Nanoha, which is what the anime and manga are adapted from. I only got pieces and bits so don’t blame me if I got it wrong.

Precia was a brilliant sorceress. Her marriage did not work out and they got divorced after two years (or something like that) of marriage. That was where Alicia came from. I guess we won’t see Mr. Testarossa anymore.

About that Hydra project. When Precia took over, that project was a mess already. That was why the former director got fired. Facing tremendous pressure from the higher authority and a disastrous project, Precia did her best to make it work while her bosses were cutting down on security. (to save money, perhaps?) This was a disaster waiting to happen and yes, it did. The “magical explosion” (the accident), sort of, could not be confined within the secure area because of the insufficient security measurement. The outcome was that the accident affected a broader area than it should have. Precia’s resident was in her research district, hence, Alicia was killed. I guess they might have offered her resident when she took the job. It is common to some companies, actually.

In order to cover up their misconduct, the higher authority forced Precia not to sue them and announced the official cause of the incident as the result of Precia’s illegal conduct. Instead, they gave Precia a huge compensation, which was later on being used for Precia’s F.A.T.E. project. That was where Fate came from. As time goes on, Fate's personality started to diverge from the original, Alicia, and the memory implanted from the original started to deteriorate for reason unknown. Therefore, Precia considered Fate a “failure.” I think we can see a few hints of these in anime. Alicia is, apparently, an easy going and talkative girl, while Fate is a shy and somewhat quiet girl. Of course, you can argue that it is the result of being tortured but who knows. That may be Fate’s true personality. Precia then moved on to find a way to resurrect the original, Alicia.

Alicia is right. Precia was a gentle and kind soul. How can someone like that just snapped?

[Gearhead]

From what I understand, it seems Fate does have Alicia's memories copied into her, but just because you dubbed the information over doesn't mean there hasn't been some data loss. And memory association is a tricky thing. It's quite possible that Fate's personality came out different.. which set Precia off on a downward spiral. She was DESPERATE to restore Alicia, and her best work had turned out a horrible failure, in her eyes.

Every little flaw in Fate became a constant reminder that her daughter was gone.

But Fate was also her best agent in completing work on Alicia.

So basically she gets stuck in a feedback loop, forced to deal with the symbol of everything that's gone wrong in her life. The accident at the lab ruined hher reputation almost certainly, wrecking her reputation and her carrer on top of killing her child.

Then there's the guilt of having been responsible for the death of her child, no matter how accurate this perception is or not.

Being kind and gentle doesn't mean your brain can't gnaw itself to death in guilt.

And after you're that far gone, kind and gentle aren't likely accurate descriptors anymore.

[Kikaifan]

Yeah. I cannot see how it could be expected that having a clone of her daughter with the same face but a different personality could do anything but aggravate her mental condition.

[FlameSparkZ]

Yeah. I cannot see how it could be expected that having a clone of her daughter with the same face but a different personality could do anything but aggravate her mental condition.

Like, Gearhead said, Precia was desperate...for mothers who love their children, if they have a slim chance of bringing them back from death, they'll try it. Even if it's impossible...

And in Fate's dream world, Alicia said that Precia "broke" because she was too kind.

[Deathkillz]

its kinda sad that precia didnt have any affection for fate whatsoever :( it wasnt fair on her at all...and why did she clone alicia if she wasnt even going to take care of fate? fate wasnt even a substitute for the feelings that precia had but rather a slave to take out her anger...yep she broke all rite...completely snapped at the thought of alicia's death...

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

To me that's something that made Precea so special as a villain. Her love was for Alicia and Alicia alone. Fate wasn't to have any part of it. And that's a very evil and insane trait if you ask me.

50) Nanoha befriends her enemies. Dark Nanoha drinks them alive.

[guest]

Another thing is, I heard in novel that Bardiche was made by Lilith. She made it for Fate only and trained Fate to use it. But some people here said that Precia bought Bardiche for Fate. Which one is correct?

[FlameSparkZ]

In sound stage 2 of season 1, something happened between Linith and Bardiche, either they merged into one, or something else.

Anyway, Linith just disappeared after that...

[Kikaifan]

When we were discussing the rarity of Intelligent Devices everyone was saying that Bardiche had to be bought and at great expense as evidence that even the greatest mages can't make them anymore.

[FlameSparkZ]

When we were discussing the rarity of Intelligent Devices everyone was saying that Bardiche had to be bought and at great expense as evidence that even the greatest mages can't make them anymore.

That makes me wonder about Durandal, it was made specifically to seal the book of darkness along with its master.

Either Graham had another accomplice in his plot, or he made Durandal himself (maybe with the help of the Lieze Twins).

And maybe, not everyone can wield an Intelligent Device, because it needs a Mage with a considerable amount of magic to power it.

[Darco_emp]

But Durandal is a storage device like S2U then an Intelligent Device. It is logical to assume there is not a large number of intelligent device maybe due to the the skill required to make them. If none of the current mage can make them that makes me wonder where did RH comes from, unless Yuno found it in a ruins somewhere

[Kikaifan]

Yeah, info at least says Durandal has basic AI, it's just special in that it's optimized for casting one type of magic. Still, the way they talked about it seems like it's either a unique item they had to acquire or something they developed at great cost.

[Darco_emp]

It could be that is it very hard to near impossible to make a device with the insane high lved spell build-in like "eternal coffin" that Durandal can be used to cast.Personlly I dont really see other storage device which is used by TSAB staff as rare or hard to make.

[Gearhead]

Durandal is specialized for casting Ice magic, all he can do is freeze things.

Bardiche and Raising Heart are both quite intelligent, capable of casting spells with very little input from their masters in a pinch, as well as warning them of changing battle conditions.

Reinforce is a step above this, being a fully cognizant person in her own right, as opposed to simply being the operating mind behind Schwertkrutz. (This is also why they call Hayate's Device Reinforce, not Schwertkrutz. There's a HELL of a lot more to her than being a very clever stick.)

[FlameSparkZ]

I think S2U is better, it kicked some metal butt in Season 1, ep 12.

For some reason I see Durandal's head like a bird's head or something...

[Kikaifan]

If we're talking Reinforce/YnS and not Reinforce 2 she's above actual human mages with their devices, intelligent or not. :p

Though... I did always wonder if her slowness in combat was because of her corruption making it hard to think or something, or if she just likes doing the 'inevitable as death itself' approach.

Actually I just wish they'd had more time to talk details about how she worked in general. I'm with the pro-technobabble and inane trivia faction, if there is such a thing.

[FlameSparkZ]

Actually I just wish they'd had more time to talk details about how she worked in general. I'm with the pro-technobabble and inane trivia faction, if there is such a thing.

YnS and the other devices.

When Raising Heart was all busted from the fight with Vita, the only thing visible were a couble of wires...

[Skyfall]

This is also why they call Hayate's Device Reinforce

I thought it(the device) is called Reinforce because Hayate gave her that name :)

[Deathkillz]

^ that is true
If we're talking Reinforce/YnS and not Reinforce 2 she's above actual human mages with their devices, intelligent or not. :p

the original reinforce was actually just like another mage with insane powers...i think that she just needed a medium to possess inorder to release the power ~ but i think the original tome of the night sky would actually be working with its master in unison kinda like two brains in one...super smart! ^_^

[Nagumo]

^ that is true

the original reinforce was actually just like another mage with insane powers...i think that she just needed a medium to possess inorder to release the power ~ but i think the original tome of the night sky would actually be working with its master in unison kinda like two brains in one...super smart! ^_^

Or a great recipe to drive the original creator insane with the amount knowledge and thoughts the other brain brought along...

It almost sounds like combining two personalities into one.

Go multiple personality!

[Nemesis]

umm guys why does vita love that rabbit soft toy?

[NoSanninWa]

Because Hayate gave it to her as a gift when they were still getting to know each other. It holds her precious memories and feelings towards Hayate.

[Kikaifan]

Her initial attraction to it remains a mystery though.

I've had the thought that the Wolkenritter might have been real people who were willingly absorbed into the book, or that their programs were created as copies of existing people, either at some time during the Tome's initial uncorrupted existence or when it was being weaponized. If the others share Signum's religious dedication to combat and knighthood that kind of immortality might have appealed to them.

[NoSanninWa]

Considering that Vita was attracted to something as unnecessary as that bunny, I suspect that she was based on a real knight since nobody would create a fighting machine with such a quirk otherwise.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

I like the cut of your jib here, Kikai. I too thought this. As programs, an awful lot would have went into their personalities and such which would decrease their use as weapons. So for them to have quirks and personalities it only makes sense if they were somehow, at some point in time actual people.

So now I'm wondering what the daily lives of the real people were like.

Damn. This just gets more and more interresting. It'll likely end up like a few other things I've been into and have this massive world and super-detailed history, 99.9% of which is fan-made.

[Kikaifan]

Damn. This just gets more and more interresting. It'll likely end up like a few other things I've been into and have this massive world and super-detailed history, 99.9% of which is fan-made.

Nanoha Fan-universe Wiki. I can see it... after finals are over.

So now I'm wondering what the daily lives of the real people were like.

Yeah, I'm really eager to see the role of the Church Knights in StrikerS. If they are in fact Belkan maybe we'll get some insight into the culture past Signum's 'our weapons are our faith' (I think that panel alone is responsible for keeping Signum ahead of Fate and Reinforce in my books. Just... cool).

[Gearhead]

If we're talking Reinforce/YnS and not Reinforce 2 she's above actual human mages with their devices, intelligent or not. :p

Reinforce II is quite a bit brighter, or at least more articulate, than Raging Heart and Bardiche. She may not know as much as them (yet) but she's learning very quickly. RH and B are very terse, and speak in a stilited fashion. You can actually have a conversation with Rein would be able to fool the person, causually, into thinking they were speaking with a human.

[Kikaifan]

I'd say she's brighter. She's got more than just sociability to show for it too; in the manga it seems like Hayate just asks her for an appropriate spell in general terms and she gives her one with that ice bind... the intelligent devices can't do that.

[Deathkillz]

well i just tend to think of reinforce II as just reinforce but younger (mentally)...lets just says shes a child with emotions same as the the knights still trying to learn ;)

[Kikaifan]

Less depressed anyway. Having your crazy subconscious kill off a continent every few decades has to wear on you.

[Xellos-_^]

Less depressed anyway. Having your crazy subconscious kill off a continent every few decades has to wear on you.


continenet? more like a world every few decades.

[Kikaifan]

I'm assuming the TSAB was generally speedy about Rainbowin' her.

[JediNight]

Well here are my thoughts about the Wolkenritter:

It was said sometime during the series that it was ASSUMED that they had no personalities, because none had ever been shown before. But they also admitted that they had always been treated as tools and used for evil.

It's not until Hayate treats them like people and doesn't expect evil things out of them that their personalities start surfacing. So my feeling is stuff like Vita getting the rabbit (which is still a pretty evil looking rabbit if you ask me LOL) was something from her dormant personality surfacing -- as a young child more-or-less she had probably wanted things that "girls her age" had. And it would make sense that their programs were made more "realistic" via actual data input from one or more real beings.

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

My friends and I had a long discussion on that rabbit, actually.

It was mainly divided into two sides. The first faction fought that the rabbit wasn't creppy. It was just stuffed and looked that way. The other faction argued that it looked creepy because of how it's mouth is sewn and such.

It wound up being a stalemate.

[Alavaria]

This just gets more and more interresting. It'll likely end up like a few other things I've been into and have this massive world and super-detailed history, 99.9% of which is fan-made.
One could make a whole RP, RPG or MMORPG from this :)

[Nemesis]

pity they did't show how the wolkenritter barrier jackets were made for the first time.

[Kikaifan]

One could make a whole RP, RPG or MMORPG from this :)

Er, that's Dragnfly's quote you have above that. IP theft! :heh:

Nanoha game... well, they say it's mecha-based, and I'm very good at Armored Core and the Tribes games. Of course, I was terrible at Zone of the Enders... so I guess I could go either way. :p

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

The closest we have for english Nanoha games is that megaman-ish one I was working on but it won't finish due to the lack of competant sprite editors.

By my count, there's three flash puzzle games (H) a 3D simulation (H), a hanafuda (H), a shmup, an unfinished ZOE-type game, an unfinished megaman-type game, an unfinished fighting game and a quiz game. This of course doesn't count the official game which I kind of don't include anyway:)

[Gearhead]

There's also a bullet hell shooter.

[Deathkillz]

im missing out on something? what nanoha game? or are you guys just "hoping" that there will be one?
neways it would be insanely cool to have a nanoha rpg :) just imagine all the fighting moves and what nots ^_^

Nanoha game... well, they say it's mecha-based, and I'm very good at Armored Core and the Tribes games. Of course, I was terrible at Zone of the Enders... so I guess I could go either way. :p
i loved ZOE...it was simple to use and the effects are stunning...i actually think its the only game ive been bothered to finnish :heh:

[Kikaifan]

The closest we have for english Nanoha games is that megaman-ish one I was working on but it won't finish due to the lack of competant sprite editors.

By my count, there's three flash puzzle games (H) a 3D simulation (H), a hanafuda (H), a shmup, an unfinished ZOE-type game, an unfinished megaman-type game, an unfinished fighting game and a quiz game. This of course doesn't count the official game which I kind of don't include anyway:)

By 'official game' are you referring to Triangle Hearts or some actual Nanoha game I don't know about? :confused:

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Yeah. the TH one. That's why I said I don't really count it.

Now my question is... Bullet Hell Shooter? ????

[ppc123]

im missing out on something? what nanoha game? or are you guys just "hoping" that there will be one?
neways it would be insanely cool to have a nanoha rpg :) just imagine all the fighting moves and what nots ^_^



I found this in YouTube,
But don't know whether it's real...

Super Lyrical War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhtlJ72vGwM

[Alavaria]

One of the comments says that it isn't a real game ...

[Petco]

I found this in YouTube,
But don't know whether it's real...

Super Lyrical War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhtlJ72vGwM

One of the comments says that it isn't a real game ...

Yeah, it's been discussed before on the A's topic, it's done by a group who does some sort of video thing with characters and stuff, not exactly sure but it's not a game.



I'd say a Nanoha game should be like Front Mission Online, or Metal Gear Solid where Nanoha sneaks up behind people chokes them, or slits their throat, or throws them on the ground and holds up Raging Hearts to their face.

[Deathkillz]

, or throws them on the ground and holds up Raging Hearts to their face...
nanoha : "you have 2 choices...be my friend and take a shot to the legs or be my enemy and i will open a new hole in your head" ~


many that parody was nasty :heh: teasing like that the guy has some nerves T_T

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

See? Key the Metal Idol had it all wrong.No wonder it took her so long to make 10,000 friends! All Nanoha needs to make 10,000 friends is that many people to be in her blast radius:)

As for the "game" thing, nah. It's not a real game. Aquastyle does many videos, most famous for Battle Fantasia and Malignant Variation.

Actually, if you ever get the chance to check their DVD version of Supreme Duel2, do so. It's a touhou video they did with some really impressive interpretations of attacks. It's an absolutely excellent example of what they're capable of. But they're never games. Just well-animated fights inspired by the likes of Disgaea or Super Robot Wars.

[FlameSparkZ]

I found this in YouTube,
But don't know whether it's real...

Super Lyrical War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhtlJ72vGwM

Too bad, this could back it up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raA95ls2GO8&NR

[Maximum Burst]

Both are just for show, and no such game exists, sadly...

[FlameSparkZ]

Sometimes I wonder what'll the opening theme of StrikerS be like.

"Innocent Starter" was good, "Eternal Blaze" was even better.

I really hope this one will be as good as EB or better! And, of course, Mizuki Nana singing :D

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

At this point I would be suprised if they went "Jam Project, featuring Nanoha Mizuki"

It'd seal the Giant Robot similarities even more:)

[LoweGear]

With Hironobu Kageyama and Endo Masaki as backup...

*spasms with awesomeness*

[Cloudy]

I was hoping for bands like alice nine or antic cafe will be singing the opening song of strikerS.XD

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

Is it sad that I'm more eager for whatever the big StrikerS announcement on the 31st is than I am for xmas?

[FlameSparkZ]

Not really, xmas comes once a year, StrikerS will only be once. And when it's over, it's over...

[Deathkillz]

christmas? bah humbug! :p after 16 years of xmas ive come to realize that its pretty much the same old boring rutine year after year...

strikerS on the other hand is a once in a lifetime event so i better savor my feeling for it :D

[LoweGear]

Is it sad that I'm more eager for whatever the big StrikerS announcement on the 31st is than I am for xmas?

No, it's not sad, it's perfectly natural. (and this from a person whose birthday coincides with Xmas...) :D

[Maximum Burst]

After finally getting my hands on the A's manga I just have to say that....WHY ISN'T THERE AN OVA OF THAT 5 ON 5 BATTLE?! :(

[Kikaifan]

Too Cool To Animate. Like the Revy/Roberta gunfight.

[FlameSparkZ]

Indeed...the fight must have been awesome, but the outcome was funny :D

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

It's like when you dream you're playing the greatest videogame ever, but you can't see the TV and have no clue what it's actually like.

[FlameSparkZ]

Yeah, that and other dreams where you dream something amazing, but you can't quite see it...really annoying.

By the way, the "Fate dressed as Precia" sketch is nearly done :D

[Bloodseeker]

I hope that older Fate does her younger counterpart justice; Its gonna suck if the creators decide to have the years draw her away from the serious and formal front that she keeps during combat and opt to make her more emotional and compassionate like Nanoha and Hayate. Actually, I'd like to see her revert back to her darker S1 attitude, complete with the colder facial expressions. (at least as far as combat situations go)

[Deathkillz]

^ well she has bound to be affected by nanoha and her friends to be more open and lighter than before ~ like you ill be unhappy if she makes a total 180 turn :( but heres hope that she retains some of her soft spoken shyness ;)

@flamesparkZ ~ gambatte! *cheer*

[Bloodseeker]

Her shyness is cute and all, but the thing that really makes Fate for me is her badass side: the fighting style, combined with the serious attitude and the equally serious facial expressions. (thus why I call her "little badass" as compared to "cutest little loli" or something of the sort) If they threw that out the window in favor of making her attitude in combat more Nanoha-like, well... I probably wouldn't be as big of a fan of older Fate, even if she kept the cute shyness. She'd just be another hot anime character with a cool weapon. :(

[npal]

The problem of course being that Fate's softened character might be her true one :p She wouldn't be listening to Nanoha in the first place if she was so badass :p And I don't recall her being so badass in A's. You can expect her to tone down even more if she's been following Nanoha around (trying to confess her love :p).

[Deathkillz]

oh rite that factor :p well pretty much the same i should think ~ she has always been serious about anything she does so i should guess that it would be the same for her even a few years later ~ its one those habits that are hard to change ~ i think she would hesitate more about hurting the enemy (due to nanoha's influence) and might even adopt more of her "lets be friends" traits @_@ the horror! :upset:

but we shall see ;) i definatly hope she doesnt become soft in combat ~
but just look at this pic and it screams BADASS! :D

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9817/m006720061113zs2oe9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Bloodseeker]

She retained some of it in A's... she wasn't as much of a "fight or get out of my way" kind of character (that wouldn't have meshed well with her status as a TSAB enforcer anyways), and her facial expressions and tone weren't as cold, but she was still dead serious and combative in combat, she still kept the kind goody-two-shoes talk to a minimum, and you never saw her giving any emotional speeches or anything like that.

But yeah, I'm afraid that years around friendly people may result in us seeing soft-heated Fate in StrikerS... I really hope not, though. Maybe they'll go the other way and have six years as an enforcer keep her somewhat hard.

[Skane]

I don't care how 'badass' Fate remains in Strikers, so long as Bardiche retains HIS badass voice. His voice is WIN, followed by Graf Eisen's maniacal ravings.

:D "Yes, Sir." :D

[Bloodseeker]

I don't see why Bardiche's voice would change... and as long as the weapon itself retains its badassery, I couldn't care less.

And Grahf Eisen is meh... my second to least favorite Nanoha weapon behind Raging Heart. It doesn't help that I don't really care about Vita.

[Deathkillz]

actually thats a good idea : lets rank your fav weapon in order :3

1) bardiche/assault ~ insane melee weapon ~ 100% love from me :D and the voice is just perfect ;)

2) Klarwind ~ i find this one really soothing and pure...even tho it didnt get much screen time i really like it for some reason :) or it could just be i find ring weapons really cool ^_^

3) reinforce/YnS/tome of the night sky (or whatever :p) ~ your own personal chibi? no questions asked :D together with the fact that it used to be the most powerful thing ever to have exsisted all so adds to the charm ;)

4) Laevatein ~ another pure melee weapon like fate's ~ amazing power and the snake form is just godly :rolleyes: tho the bow for seem a bit underpowered ~

5) raging heart ~ meh...the cannon...nuff said

6) Grahf Eisen ~ im just not too fond of hammers O.o just doenst have the charm as the other forms of melee weapons imo...

[Bloodseeker]

1. Bardiche: Both Scythe form and Zanber form look really cool. And I like its revolver-like catridge loader after the upgrade. Fate wouldn't be as badass as she is without them.

2. Reinforce: Rein FTW!

3. Levantine: Not a big fan of Snake form either, and Bow form is just okay, but Sword form gives Bardiche's Scythe and Zanber forms a run for coolest looking weapon.

4. S2U: I liked this weapon a lot more than the Duranal. The attacks that he used to destroy those mechs at the end of S1 were pretty cool. Too bad that we didn't get to see much of it...

5. Klarer Wind: Doesn't look all that cool, but I like its technique where Shamal reaches into people's chests and takes their linker core. And there's something hot and maternal about healers...

6. Grahf Eisen: Meh. I actually don't mind hammers, but I just don't think that this one looks all that cool, and its attacks aren't as flashy as some of the others.

7. Durandal: I take back what I said earlier... this is my second to least favorite MGLN weapon. It looks dumb, and freezing things isn't all that cool. The only proper way to use ice as a weapon is to make nice, sharp sickles out of it.

8. Raging Heart: Pink rod that shoots pink laser beams and speaks terrible Engrish. And even if it weren't pink, it still wouldn't look very cool.

[Ichy]

1. Chibi Reinforce: Just the cutest thing ever. Alsoe her Fusion with Hayate to bring out the super blonde Mahoujin of Doom is awesome :D I Hope she get a lot of Screentime in StrikerS. I want her to use some Variations of Bloody Dagger and Diabolic Emission! :heh:

2. Raging Heart. I like her Voice an her Imense Firepower. No Other Device uses such a huge Amount of magic Cartriges. :D

3. Bardiche: Just cool. The perfect Weapon for Fate-chan. haken and Zamber Form looks just too badass!

[Riker]

Hmmm, since we're on the topic of weapons, I hope I'm not going off topic with this image:

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5858/1162723774614bu3.th.jpg (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1162723774614bu3.jpg)


Combination attack?

[FlameSparkZ]

Wiiiiierd...
But predictable, someone would eventually put very device/barrier jacket in a blender and come up with something like that.

Anyway, my favorite Devices:

1. Bardiche Assault
A balanced weapon in close combat and ranged. Haken form rules!

2. Laevatein
A sword! 'nuf said! (I'm a sword fan by the way XD)

3. S2U
Put on quite a show in S1, and the voice is good too.

4. Reinforce
Unisom device and cute chibi-hologram as a bonus!

5. Raising Heart
Because Excellion mode is awsome.

Hmm, got a nasty pain on the neck...I'll have to delay the finishing of the sketch.

[DarkBlaze13]

*breathes heavy sigh* Finally I made it through all 61 pages! Woo!
*ahem* Anyway...perhaps I shall rank my favorite devices too...

1. Bardiche Assault
Is a glowing scythe of DOOM! And it has all those cool lightning abilities...I like the voice too

2. Laevatein
Swords are awesome and so is its voice

3. Raising/Raging Heart
Looks like a somewhat weak staff-thing that turns into an over-powered laser cannon O.o

4. Graf Eisen
Don't know exactly why I like it, I just do...perhaps its how it says "Explosion!"

5. S2U
'cause of its awesome attacks XD

My favorites! Anyway, I'm new (obviously) and as stated I read this whole topic and I find many of the discussions to be quite amusing/interesting. I hope to partake in any future ones *bows*

[Kikaifan]

Psh, Reinforce is the best. Not just a weapon but a character.

I'm with you all on Bardiche though. The scythe just has style.

[Deathkillz]

i think it imprinted into my brain that i just love scythes ~ ever since i watched gundam wing when i was young my fav gundam has been deathscythe ;)

[MeganeShounen]

So... no love for the Durandal? It can freeze opponents in stasis, and it looks cool to boot. Though, since Chrono gets his cushy ship captain job in StrikerS, I guess there's not much time for him to use it.

I think we need another (big) Axe or Dual Sword device. Or a Katana maybe... but not much space for the Velka-type Cartridge System there...

[LoweGear]

Actually there is a way... I've been imagining the concept of a katana-type armed device for a fanfic concept, and you can fit a Belka cartridge system there. Simply have the handle incorporate a pistol magazine, with the ejection port on the handleguard. It'll have smaller cartridges than normal, but at least you'll have a cartridge system XD

We need to see more variations on the cartridge system though, like drum mags, manual breech loading (not practical, but it makes up in coolness factor), belt loading, cylindrical magazines... the possibilities are endless XD

[FlameSparkZ]

Actually there is a way... I've been imagining the concept of a katana-type armed device for a fanfic concept, and you can fit a Belka cartridge system there. Simply have the handle incorporate a pistol magazine, with the ejection port on the handleguard. It'll have smaller cartridges than normal, but at least you'll have a cartridge system XD

We need to see more variations on the cartridge system though, like drum mags, manual breech loading (not practical, but it makes up in coolness factor), belt loading, cylindrical magazines... the possibilities are endless XD

*Remembers Chrno Crusade, Outlaw Star*
So true! Manual loading makes it much cooler!

About S2U, am I the only one who thinks that it's voice has an amazing resemblance to Capt. Lindy's voice?

[Kikaifan]

So... no love for the Durandal? It can freeze opponents in stasis, and it looks cool to boot. Though, since Chrono gets his cushy ship captain job in StrikerS, I guess there's not much time for him to use it.

I think we need another (big) Axe or Dual Sword device. Or a Katana maybe... but not much space for the Velka-type Cartridge System there...

IMO S2U is much cooler-looking than Durandal. I also like it better than Schwertkreuz and Raising Heart as far as staff designs go.

And when I say Reinforce, I mean the original, not her regression/copy/whatever. R2 makes a good mascot for the gang, but it's hardly 'cool.'

[DarkBlaze13]

Reinforce was pretty cool, though when she says "I'm the happiest magical tome in the whol wide world" I have to laugh XD

[Kikaifan]

I like how fast they went from Hayate talking to Reinforce like she's a child to Reinforce talking to Hayate like she's a child. I guess there's a few thousand years of seniority in there...

[Dragnfly@Gamefaqs]

I wanna see Zaphira throw a cartridge into the air and then axekick it into somebody's head:)

Likewise, I'd love to see a belt-loading one. Picture it for Klarwind:) A portal open beside Shamal with a belt of cartridges coming out of it.

Signum "Hey. Just how many cartridges do you have there anyway?"
Shamal "Well, the belt goes from here to Mars."
Signum "O.O"

I'd also want to see a manual loading one. Maybe they could have somebody who's skilled at shooting from hidden locations like a hunter.

I'd say Arisa would get a katana or maybe a pair of them:) A cartridge katana (I prefer tachi myself but oh, well) is perfectly fine. Like somebody said, just make it a single-cartridge bit in the hilt.

And YAY for the promo DVD. Less than 10 days away and I have an envoy all set to pick mine up! WOOOOHOOOO!

[Kikaifan]

Btw, will Hayate's Reinforcer II grow? she seems so small and i was wondering if she will *mature* to the previous Reinforce I's form. and do anyone have pictures of Reinfoce I along with Hayate ^__^?

Sorry to drag up such an old point, but I was rereading one of my +rep posts to keep the ego fed reviewing the thread, and got thinking on this.

If R2 is a regression or fragment of Reinforce and not just made in her image, might not she eventually grow into something alike to her? In the last episode of A's Reinforce says something about Hayate's magic coming from her ("my will will live on in your magic") and in the girls speculate in the post-A's manga that some of Reinforce's personality has been left in Hayate as well. With R2 Unisoning with Hayate on a frequent basis, it seems possible to me that she would eventually take on many characteristics of the original.

[FlameSparkZ]

Sorry to drag up such an old point, but I was rereading one of my +rep posts to keep the ego fed reviewing the thread, and got thinking on this.

If R2 is a regression or fragment of Reinforce and not just made in her image, might not she eventually grow into something alike to her? In the last episode of A's Reinforce says something about Hayate's magic coming from her ("my will will live on in your magic") and in the girls speculate in the post-A's manga that some of Reinforce's personality has been left in Hayate as well. With R2 Unisoning with Hayate on a frequent basis, it seems possible to me that she would eventually take on many characteristics of the original.

R1 didn't get much time to behave in a human-like way like the knights, being a currupted tome and all, rebuilding a defense program.

Reinforce 2 should be like a reincarnation of R1 so, they won't be exactly alike because R2 is living with Hayate and the knights.

It's a bit like Alicia/Fate case, the one and the same, but in the end, different due to the experiences they've had in their lives.

[Deathkillz]

R2 would lead a happier life that R1 thats for sure...
i dont think that even when R2 grows up memories from R2 would come back...just like flame said its more of a reincarnation for R2...she would grow up to look like R1 but her experiences and personality would be rather different...
I wanna see Zaphira throw a cartridge into the air and then axekick it into somebody's head:)
crap why didnt i think of that? :rolleyes: the awsomeness comming from that is enough to make my gag and is enough to make me spray whatever i was drinking at the screen :heh:

[MeganeShounen]

I wanna see Zaphira throw a cartridge into the air and then axekick it into somebody's head:)Zafira would be the one who would benefit the most from a Knuckle-based Device. Similar to Area from Street Fighter.

Zafira's Brute Strength + Cartridges = Mass Barrier Break/Long Range Barrier Break :heh:

I'd say Arisa would get a katana or maybe a pair of them:) A cartridge katana (I prefer tachi myself but oh, well) is perfectly fine. Like somebody said, just make it a single-cartridge bit in the hilt.I'm guessing you got the idea from that "Shakugan no Arisa" pic somewhere in the internet.:p
As for a katana-based Device, you can replace the hilt and handle of a normal katana with a normal handgun. The blade would be incorporated into the frame and sticks out on the gun's top. That way, you can hold and aim the gun while blocking attacks.

Oh, and if that's possible, then dual pistols = nitouryu (dual wield) = win~ wwwww

@LoweGear: Ah, we posted at the same time about that Gauntlet-type device for Zafira.
Great minds think alike, eh?
Hint: 5 Cartridges Loaded = Zafira doing an Asura Strike on a target = 6 digit damage.

[LoweGear]

I wanna see Zaphira throw a cartridge into the air and then axekick it into somebody's head:)

I'd much rather see Zafira get his own gauntlet-type revolver mechanism armed device so he can go SOUL BREAKER!!!!!. Then Arf would get a similar pair and go SHINING FINGER, then maybe both can expend cartridges for their ultimate attack HELL AND HEAVEN :D

And what's this about a promo DVD?

[FlameSparkZ]

I wonder if, after the upgrade in A's, Raising Heart and Bardiche kept the Sealing Mode/Form in them...

[Deathkillz]

any reason to take them out in the first place? but really i think that the lost logia artifacts has now been pushed aside for more badass stuff :p i mean omgz YnS = armageddon XD ~ kinda like bleach...i dont seem to see hollows anywhere anymore O.o

[MeganeShounen]

You can never know if the StrikerS scriptwriters intend to insert more "capture the Lost Logia" events into the storyline... so better be safe than sorry, right?

Meanwhile, we bring you a special update regarding StrikerS...
(Actually, I'm just going to relay some info from the other boards, since no one has yet to announce it...)

------------------

According to Moonphase Diary (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20061227), StrikerS has been slated for an April release, so we still have some time to prepare...

-----------------

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming...

[Varion]

According to Moonphase Diary (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/moonphase/20061227), StrikerS has been slated for an April release, so we still have some time to prepare...
Excellent, figured it'd be around then :D Thank you for your update sir.

[Deathkillz]

woo :D its says "april 1st 2007" ~ nice early birthday present seen as my bday is on the 4th ^_^

[kingdom_elladrel]

April 1st, eh? Hopefully, it's not an April Fool's joke :D Still, can't wait for the new Nanoha series to come out. I'll for sure be following that one.

[IchiKyo]

Very Cool :D
Just like Xenoglossia :D
It's will be good and

There is the Chapter 4 too^^

[Maximum Burst]

April is so far away ; ;

[MeganeShounen]

Holy ____

Wait... I just noticed... Nanoha StrikerS on April 1st?

April Fools? I hope no one mucks that important date up... >.<

[IchiKyo]

Maybe the first episode will begin with april fools? XD

[Kikaifan]

Normally I'd suggest faking the return of a deceased character, but seeing how they only have two that actually died 'on-air' and one of those was unconfirmed...

This is probably influenced by that Holiday Party four-panel that went up in the image thread, but the scene coming to mind is Nanoha and co. surprise-party-ing Hayate with a 'revived' R1 who's just a cardboard cutout, followed by a continent-shattering battle when she doesn't take it well.

[Deathkillz]

^ poor hayate :sad:

april fools? huh ~ well it wont be soo funny when i get my bazooka out and "try to make friends" with the producers ;)

[LoweGear]

Can't Rein simply transform herself into R1 (at least in the sense that she'll look like R1)? At least then they won't have to face the business end of a Ragnarok Breaker: Armageddon Shift...

And April 1st seems like eternity...

[kingdom_elladrel]

It might just be an April Fool's joke :D Maybe the real date of when it starts showing will be MUCH sooner :D

[LoweGear]

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2951/nanohastrikerswalloq3.th.jpg (http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nanohastrikerswalloq3.jpg)

Some background info:

blue haired girl w/ knuckle intelligent device : Hokuto. Fresh graduate. Fan/student? of Nanoha. Keeps a picture of her XD
pig tails w/ guns: Lanster
red haired w/spear: Elio. Unless I am mistaken he is adopted by Fate. Yeah, she developed a mother complex
pink hair: I have no idea

And some shocking info: Supposedly StrikerS takes place 10 years after A's. O_O

[LoweGear]

Which would greatly explain the info on Fate being a foster mother... so that technically makes her a MILF now? :D :heh:

Edit: How'd my reply get here before your post?

[IchiKyo]

10 Years after A's???
So they have 18 or 20 years Old now? O_o

So 3 New Magicians

French, Chinese and Russian Magician?

Oui mademoiselle? :D

Originally Posted by Mellow RG from Gfaqs
red haired w/spear: Elio. Unless I am mistaken he is adopted by Fate. Yeah, she developed a mother complex

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9692/1167296930001bi3.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1167296930001bi3.jpg)
DIE KID! DIE! I WANT TO BE ADOPTED BY FATE T_T

Originally Posted by Mellow RG from Gfaqs
blue haired girl w/ knuckle intelligent device : Hokuto. Fresh graduate. Fan/student? of Nanoha. Keeps a picture of her XD

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6606/1167297206150ob0.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1167297206150ob0.jpg)
Are you a nanoha fan? T_T, let's me join you^^

It's looks like the Chapter 4 of A's to StrikerS is introduce some news characters...
The Pink Girl, her name is Mint?

Does on StrikerS, the Scenario will someday, developped the Relation between Nanoha and Fate? T_T, when?

Sorry, Double Post
Can a Mod delete this please?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Sigh, once again the Nanoha series toss me a curve ball...

1st time, Chrono's engagement (not quite over that one)

And now, 10 years instead of 6?!?! (Well I guess it was to be expected, seeing as how the characters were sent to different departments...)

...I need a drink...

[Varion]

So my Fate goes from jailbait to being older than me? What the hell ._.

I don't think I need to ramble about how bad their designs still look, everyone who's seen at least one of my posts knows how much I hate them. It seems to be getting worse though. Hayate still doesn't look bad though, she's aged the best. As for the new designs, they'll probably take some time to wear in but they're not bad... that orange-haired one looks eerily familiar some how, but I like her outfit. Blue one, meh. Brown haired one, meh. Pink-haired loli? Cute but meh... and does mini Reinforce have thighhighs on there or is that just orange's hand?

No, what I find more disturbing is how the descriptions basically make them out as allies. It looks at a first glance like they're basically shoving the knights to the side make space for these new guys, which wasn't how I thought they'd solve the 'Nanoha has too many friends' issue. I could be wrong though, but having all of the originals AND all of these would definitely be too much if these new characters were to have any development at all.

[pleasebegoodpleasebegoodpleasebegood]

[Deathkillz]

10 years later? you have got to be kidding me...plz say that you didnt find that from a reliable source T_T ~
this will take the nanoha universe way out of context to what i was hoping for...and that scan with fate's adopted child...needs to burn T_T

also plz dont tell me that the main cast will ned be supporting the new guys? reminds me of something like yugiohGX where its still called yugioh but WTH yugi isnt in it anymore O.o i dont want that to happen to strikerS :sad:

[npal]

10 years? Unless there's an official source, I'll take the A's ending as indication of StrikerS

[Varion]

That scan looks pretty official to me...

なのはの第３シリーズは、前作の１０年後が舞台！

Basically, "The third series of Nanoha will be set 10 years after previous works", so yep, 10 years after A's :( I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed.

[Skane]

Maybe they decided that Nanoha & Co. had become too powerful, and could not conjure up an antagonist strong enough to challenge them. I mean really, what could?

So between robbing them of their powers or introducing weaker characters, they chose the latter apparently. :heh:

Narf.

Originally Posted by Mellow RG from Gfaqs
red haired w/spear: Elio. Unless I am mistaken he is adopted by Fate. Yeah, she developed a mother complex

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9692/1167296930001bi3.th.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1167296930001bi3.jpg)
DIE KID! DIE! I WANT TO BE ADOPTED BY FATE T_T
You know... I really hope that elderly lady in the background is not Lindy... unless 10 years means a 100 years to her race or something. :heh:

Heh.

[Varion]

Well you've got a point, I never thought of it that way (too quick to assume it'd be Nanoha/Fate as leads again with the knights replaced entirely). I could cope with Nanoha and Fate being relegated to mentoring roles but somehow it doesn't seem right... I mean, they're 20 and have loads of battle experience, I just can't see them staying on the side and letting everything happen, they'd want to get involved somehow. If they can make it work, and the new characters are interesting, it'll probably work out okay though. They could've easily gone for 'new lost logia, new level of powerups, repeat formula' after all, I'd rather have some faith in the writers knowing what they were doing here. Everything revealed lately except the date seems to be dampening everyone's excitement :heh: Come on guys, throw us a trailer. Please? Maybe that'll be enough reassurance that this'll turn out okay.

...I'll still miss my loli Fate though.

[npal]

Eh, I'd rather have Fate and Nanoha as leads instead of just being there and giving guidance. Bleh...

[DarkBlaze13]

Eh, I'd rather have Fate and Nanoha as leads instead of just being there and giving guidance. Bleh...

Indeed. I'd be disappointed if they stopped being the leads >.>

Them new characters better have minor roles :P

[Skane]

If Nanoha and Fate power up again in Strikers, they're gonna need to fight God in the fourth season. Mmm... shades of Lina the Slayer appearing. :heh:

"Starlight Fusion Breaker of the Holy Thunders and Ragnarok's Wrath!
Incinerate all my enemies and disperse them from my path!"

Narf.

[npal]

Well, it's better than milking the merchandise forever and making it lame in the end because you don't have anything good to show. Better end it with the same leads in 3 seasons that take forever because you keep introducing new leads. It doesn't need to go Digimon or DBZ (which both fail anyway).

[Deathkillz]

but still i think making it 10 year later is too much of a big jump >.< somehow i just dont want to see cutie fate grow up soo fast...would happily settle for something like 16 yrs old ~

and what about the 10 years in between ~ i would love to see what kind of experiences our little heroines have gained...so i guess they are teachers now and on full time adult duty :(

still i doubt that they will sit on the side lines...but just appearing to kick some ass until the very last moment leaves it feeling somewat empty >.<

well i think its still too soon to speculate all this crap :p maybe it wont turn out to be as bad as my first thoughts are ~

[npal]

You know, there's not much of a difference from 16 to 20 :p

[Deathkillz]

yes there is :p 16 ~ still in your schooldays and 20 ~ moving on into adulthood ~ and the 4 year gap is sufficient enough to see how the girls change in mind O.o

[npal]

Well, take my word for it, appearance-wise it's not much of a difference :p I mean, if they don't change significantly from 16 to MY age, which is another 4 years, I don't believe they change that much in their 20s.

[Gearhead]

Someone put forth a valid point.

If Nanoha and the others powered up much more they'd be taking on gods and solving the world's problems with a flick of the wrist. Remember how Lindy basically STOPPED a dimensional collapse by saying 'no' very firmly?

That's how Nanoha and the others are now.

You need to either change the focus slightly, or find a bigger challenge; and really a bigger challenge at this stage would be SILLY.

This writing team has demonstrated a keen ability to rock in the past, so let's not sell them short, ne?