Noob entering fansubbing

[Masashi]

Alas,

I have decided to try out fansubbing.
I'm sure there are aton of these topics, and my apologies for making yet another one.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated, I would perfer simple programs to use now, but, there are not always such programs.

So, if you have any programs you think would be good for a Noob such as I, then I will use it and attempt to learn how to use it.

Anything else would be of great help.

Thanks again,
Masashi

P.S.

Ack, I believe I have put this is the wrong fourm.
If it is, then if a mod would be so kind to move this to the correct one.
Thanks, sorry once again xD

[Medalist]

Simple...there is no such thing..."Easy to use for most" is the correct terminology I'd use. Since Simple also doesn't mean complicated which means not that good which really won't have lots of features. etc. etc. :D

[gumbaloom]

The first thing as a fansubber is to learn how to READ. Creating another pointless topic instead of searching the forums is just lazy and lazy fansubbers create low quality fansubs.

:c

-gumbaloom

[Masashi]

I do quite know how to read, yet the ones I have found, didn't fully help me.

[gumbaloom]

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=35061

And what about this ? ~_~

Or this

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=25778

[Masashi]

Simple. I'm NOT working with DVD's.

[gumbaloom]

http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=31172&highlight=fansubbing+guide

Or what about this ? A "Getting in to Fansubbing" thread.

All it took was a simple search for "fansubbing guide" and lo it popped straight out!

The search button is cool isnt it ? :rolleyes:

-gumbaloom

[Masashi]

Heh, ok. But all they provided were the names of the programs. I need links xD

[CelesAurivern]

http://fansub-faq.darkmirage.com/
Do realise that you are doing something that is illegal; infringing intellectual property.
Turn back now and gain salvation :D

[mit7059]

Fansubbingmay be illegal, but if its not licenced in the United States and you live in the united states, then you should be in the clear. The United States Government in all its glory would never allow a foreign government to try an American Citizen for something like fansubbing, they're own arrogance protects us. As soon as it is licenced though, its fair game on your ass, as american companies will sue you. However, I've never EVER heard of anyone getting in actual legal trouble for downloading or supplying anime, sure there have been cease and dissest letters, but as long as you cease and dissest then there's no problem. The anime industry in nowhere near as organized as the music industry is with they're RIAA, and even the RIAA has grown quiet, im sure that you'll be safe. The Japanese Anime Industry would be retarded to try to shut down the fansubbing communites, as its possiblly one of the greatest marketing tools ever created, on this forum alone there are 2858 threads and 132,580 posts about naruto, popularity among fansubbers promps shows to be bought my american companies, ergo makes the japanese companies money. Also, the fansubbing community is a huge addition to the american anime community, which would shrink terribly if fansubs were to suddenly disappear, simply put if the Japanese Anime Industry was to make further inroads into the North American market, they need fansubs.

[bayoab]

Fansubbingmay be illegal, but if its not licenced in the United States and you live in the united states, then you should be in the clear. The United States Government in all its glory would never allow a foreign government to try an American Citizen for something like fansubbing, they're own arrogance protects us.I hope this post was sarcastic, because its entirely incorrect. The US government is not going to protect you against a law suit for copyright infringement by a Japanese company. If you are going to fansub, do not assume you are immune from lawsuits and litigation.

However, I've never EVER heard of anyone getting in actual legal trouble for downloading or supplying anime, sure there have been cease and dissest letters, but as long as you cease and dissest then there's no problem.
Multiple people who have gotten in trouble for serving anime and have had to make deals to get out of trouble. Other people have lost their jobs for it.

The Japanese Anime Industry would be retarded to try to shut down the fansubbing communites, as its possiblly one of the greatest marketing tools ever created, on this forum alone there are 2858 threads and 132,580 posts about naruto, popularity among fansubbers promps shows to be bought my american companies, ergo makes the japanese companies money. Also, the fansubbing community is a huge addition to the american anime community, which would shrink terribly if fansubs were to suddenly disappear, simply put if the Japanese Anime Industry was to make further inroads into the North American market, they need fansubs.
Fansub watchers only make up 30% of the DVD sales in the US. And this 30% is believed to be made up of less than 50% of fansub watchers. (Source=Industry rep). That is right, you are providing people with stuff so they don't have to buy the real things. I won't prove the rest wrong because this is entirely OT to the topic at hand.

I recommend that the OP also not try to form their own group and try to join an existing group once they know how to work the programs.

[deathbygirl]

The United States Government in all its glory would never allow a foreign government to try an American Citizen for something like fansubbing, they're own arrogance protects us.I agree with bayoab. That "something" is considered infringing on rights to one's intellectual property, something the United States takes rather seriously (see: America, Recording Industry Association; America, Motion Picture Association). Although I don't think any animation company would go to the extent of issuing a subpoena, it doesn't mean the American government would dismiss the charge due to "arrogance" nor does it mean an animation company wouldn't go to that extent in the future.

Also, the fansubbing community is a huge addition to the american anime community, which would shrink terribly if fansubs were to suddenly disappear, simply put if the Japanese Anime Industry was to make further inroads into the North American market, they need fansubs.Uh, no. The animation industry doesn't need fansubs, although the same cannot be said about the inverse of that statement. Like the article posted by Celes states, there are more than ample resources available to companies in this day and age that allow people to advertise their properties without the aid of a bunch of unaffiliated people practicing a hobby (namely, commercial usage of BitTorrent, streaming media, and the emergence of anime-centric television networks, to list a few). Your argument about the "American anime community" also falls apart; you're under the assumption that many anime fans in the United States are aware of fansubbing and participate in the scene (whether they are actually fansubbers or just download their encodes). There are many people who haven't even heard of distribution of anime through the Internet, namely people who catch all of their anime through a medium such as Adult Swim. Let's also not forget about the Unified Ethical Anime Fan Coalition of America and Surrounding Territories, who doesn't condone any kind of anime distribution aside from strict R1 releases. It's impossible to state whether the community would "shrink"; believe it or not, people can (and will) live without their weekly releases.

Fansub watchers only make up 30% of the DVD sales in the US. And this 30% is believed to be made up of less than 50% of fansub watchers.I'd like to actually see some real statistics about sales figures, preferably an official publication by an unaffiliated source; as far as I am aware of, there is no reputable evidence stating whether fansubs (and their audiences) significantly support or detract from commercial sales in the United States (and other territories) - although members of both parties will argue otherwise. I couldn't care less whether you quote "mystery industry rep" or "famous anime-related guy"; it amuses me whenever people make up figures to either support their argument or detract from someone else's. Sure, there's little doubt (in my mind, anyway) that fansubs affect the commercial scene in some way; I'll give you that. However, it's rather ridiculous to throw concrete figures into the argument and say this is "exactly" how much commercial sales are affected (positively or negatively) by the presence of fansubs.

Heh, ok. But all they provided were the names of the programs. I need links xDGoogle, sir, I pray tell thou hast heard of it? You should be able to find everything within the first page of a search, granted it's not an ancient piece of software not actively being used or maintained.

...Although I understand the fustration, you might want to take it easy there, gumba. No one wants to be perceived as a dick, right? :rolleyes:

[Sylf]

How to get started... learn how the fansubbing process flows.
http://www.lolikon.org/guide.html

Tools needed:
* raw acquisition - start with tokyotosho. Plenty of raws floating around nowadays. A lost of those are quite crappy.
* translation - media player and text editor. Translators simple need to watch the video, and type the translation to text editors.
* timing - sabbu, aegisub, medusa, etc. See this thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=25778). Sabbu homepage has a quick timing primer.
* Editing - Directshow based video player, VSFilter, text editor, dictionaries, style guides, spell checkers. Basically, need to be able to watch the translation as a softsub, and make changes as needed
* typesetter - VirtualDub, VSFilter, text editor or aegisub. Need to be able to see what the text look exactly on the screen, and change the formatting as needed. See aegisub's help file, the Typesetting section.
* encoding - Encoding tool of your choice. Probably AVI Synth and some encoder and muxer. Such as x264 (encoder) and mkvtoolnix or mp4box (muxer).

Anymore, you can use the search on this forum and google on each of those programs, and should be able to plenty to read up on. When gumbaloom said "be able to read," he wasn't exaggerating. There's been more than enough times when this topic has been covered. Learn to use search.

[NoSanninWa]

There have already been enough resources listed to answer the question. Since some of those resources are threads where this question has been answered, this thread is redundant.

Newbie in Need For Guides
Getting Into Fansubbing
Sabbu (timing program)