The Order of Haruhi Suzumiya (In what order should this be watched?)

[NoSanninWa]

As every fan of the show knows, there are different orders in which it can be watched. The episodes aired in an order determinded by Haruhi, but during each promo, Kyon makes it clear that the chronological order is quite different. In what order would you choose to rewatch this show? Or if you've already rewatched it, what order do you recommend?

1. Mikuru Asahina's Adventure Episode 00
Chronologically, this is the 11th episode.
2. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya I
Chronologically, this is the 1st episode
3. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II
Chronologically, this is the 2nd episode
4. The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya
Chronologically, this is the 7th episode
5. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya III
Chronologically, this is the 3rd episode
6. Remote Island Syndrome (Part 1)
Chronologically, this is the 9th episode
7. Mysterique Sign
Chronologically, this is the 8th episode
8. Remote Island Syndrome (Part 2)
Chronologically, this is the 10th episode
9. Someday In The Rain
Chronologically, this is the 14th episode
10. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya IV
Chronologically, this is the 4th episode
11. The Day Of Sagittarius
Chronologically, this is the 13th episode
12. Live Alive
Chronologically, this is the 12th episode
13. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya V
Chronologically, this is the 5th episode
14. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya VI
Chronologically, this is the 6th episode
So, to watch it in chronologial order, you'd have to watch the episodes in this order:
2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 1, 12, 11, 9.

Then there is a third option. You can watch Episode 0 first as a prologue. This can work since it is an off-topic teaser which only incidently introduces us to the show. Then watch every other episode in Kyon's order:
1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 12, 11, 9.

Or maybe you'd prefer to watch the show in a random order each time, guided only by fate and luck. That way you might somehow notice a secret of Haruhism that would be hidden by blindly sticking to a predetermined order. Strike down all limits on our perceptions that chain us to the mundane world!

Once you vote, please tell me why you prefer that choice!

Edit by Mod (xris):
It seems NoSanninWa wasn't wearing the recommended tin-foil hat when creating this thread and poll, thus resulting in a number of errors. I hope they have mostly been corrected and that the poll is no longer confusing as to which order is which.

In addition, I would also suggest that the following are points of discussion when you post your own opinions.

1) A recommendation to first time viewers as to which order they should watch?
2) A personal preference as to how you would have preferred to watch the show?
3) A personal preference as to how you intend to rewatch the show?
4) Which order you prefer in general?

By all means, don't limit yourself to the above, feel free do discuss any other topic relevant to the subject at hand.

[Shinji103]

Ummm...I dunno... :heh:

[restrain]

First time watching, of course you should watch it in airing order -- or else you won't be able to appreciate the artfully constructed storyline to fit 14 eps.

If you want to analyse the series, then chronological order will be better because it's easier to see the links from previous events (e.g. Mikuru ponytail in ep4). Else I prefer the original order (because the deliberately mixed order is what I personally makes this series what it is).

Personally, I think that having ep1 where it is made some people go "wtf?" and turned them away from this great work of animation;(.

edit: Wait, isn't it Haruhi who says them in chronological order and Kyon who says it in airing order?

[C.A.]

It must be watched in the Airing/Kyon's order the very first time you watch, if not, all is doomed, the world has ended for you.

After watching it in the airing order, then you can choose to watch it in any way you like. Haruhi's order, random order, from last to first episode etc, all you want.

[panzerfan]

What happened to me was .. I saw Adventures of Asahina Mikuru and then, I got the novel and essentially went random order there. With Haruhi it doesn't hurt.

[Alu]

Well I belive the best order to watch it, is in fact the order that the Anime was presented to us; or in other words... "as aired on T.V.".

This was actualy a very smart way to deliver the story content, but of course it would not have worked if Haruhi's caracteristics as a character had served as an influence to do such.

The development of the series storywise can be very well acompanied through its correct order yes.., however, and this of course.. giving its content, on the way the episodes where switched it actualy ended up emphasizing some in climax sort of prespective.

For as we know.., the last episodes of Haruhi (as shown in "as aired on T.V.") are actualy some of the first episodes to storywise.. be aired.
However.., these are the episodes that give us the conclusion to what the Anime is all about, and what realy are the facts & explinations behind some of the events we first got to see.

Hence, this way, they where able to deliver us something "unique" when watching it.., not only it felt as if miss Haruhi was realy in charge and much like NoSanninWa said & I quote " Strike down all limits on our perceptions that chain us to the mundane world! "
but it also was able to deliver us (what I consider) the best way to enjoy the story consearing on how the events where shown to us (timewise).

Hence.. why I definitly say.., the best order to watch Haruhi and enjoy it to its full potential is definitly.. "as aired on T.V.".
Also.. in the end.., with Kyon's little remark on each episode.., we never ended up beeing lost :)

And True fact is.., if the episodes (giving the same content), where to have been displayed properly.., I recon many would have lost a bit of the excitement of wanting to see the next episode just so it could show us what happened prior to the others we had seen; myself included ;)

Edit :

Needed to fix the order due to all the confusion.. :p
Now I just hope I got it right ^^

[C.A.]

WAIT, wait everyone, we've totally messed up here lol

Haruhi's order is the chronological order, not the airing order!

Looks like this poll should be restarted with options:

Haruhi's chronological order

Kyon's airing order

Episode 0, then Haruhi's order

Random order

[Bloodseeker]

I don't think that I would have enjoyed it as much if I had watched it in chronological order. Kyon's order raises mysteries and keeps things interesting. You find out that Haruhi is more than she seems and might essentially be God, then you find out that something really bad happened at some point between episodes and the group tries to keep her entertained to keep it from happening again, then the show slowly gives you a better idea of what each of the characters are capable of and raises mysteries, then you finally find out about just how dangerous a bored/frustrated Haruhi can be. If you followed it in Haruhi's order, you'd find out about Haruhi's and the other's full abilities in the first six episodes or so, and the rest of it would be completely devoid of any mystery. It would still be a good show, but watching it in Haruhi's order the first time through would take away from it somewhat, IMO.

[Maxon]

Kyon's. It's the order that I first watched it in and started loving the show.

[Lost]

WAIT, wait everyone, we've totally messed up here lol

Haruhi's order is the chronological order, not the airing order!

Looks like this poll should be restarted with options:

Haruhi's chronological order

Kyon's airing order

Episode 0, then Haruhi's order

Random order
Erm are you trying to confuse me? :heh: :D I think Haruhi's order is Haruhi's order, the airing order. Kyon's order is the chronological order. I got the clue as to the chronogical order by listening to Kyon at the end of every preview.The episodes aired in an order determinded by Haruhi, but during each promo, Kyon makes it clear that the chronological order is quite different.
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HEY WAIT. Erm. Sorry C.A.. Yes. Kyon annouces the real airing order, Haruhi the chronological order. :heh: I suppose Kyon has always been the more level-headed guy. So what do I vote for now? Haha.

Anyway, Haruhi or Kyon aside; theres only one real answer to this question. Obviously, the first time round you watch this, to maximise the viewing pleasure and prevent you from getting bored halfway thru the whole series, you have to watch this series in AIRING order.

I'll withhold my vote until someone clarifies the Haruhi/Kyon thing.

[C.A.]

No lol Haruhi is the chronological order.

Here's the episode preview at the end of episode 5(Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu III):Haruhi: Next time on Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu: Episode 9!
Kyon: Wrong. Get it through your head already.
Kyon: Next time on Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu: Episode 6, Lone Island Syndrome (Part 1)Chronologically Lone Island Syndrome (Part 1) is episode 9, by airing, it is episode 6. Haruhi is chronological, Kyon is airing.

You see that everyone was confused and voted for the chronological order of Haruhi lol

EDIT: Well the poll is totally wrong now lol, I guess it will go wrong even more when people vote first instead of reading the posts first lol

[xris]

Sounds like the (current) poll will need to be deleted and recreated but this time making it clear which is the aired order and which is the chronological order.

Haruhi order (i.e. chronological)
Kyon order (i.e. as aired)
Modified Haruhi order ("Ep 0" first, folllowed by chronological order)
Random order

This is correct as I understand it. Any objections?

Oh yes, the poll should be made public as well.

[C.A.]

Hmmm I'm still quite worried that people will still be confused between Haruhi and Kyon's order.

Maybe just:

Chronological order
Airing order
Episode 0 first, then Chronological order(this was written Episode 0 + Kyon's order because it was thought by NoSanninWa that Kyon's order is chronological, but actually is Haruhi's)
Random Order

[xris]

Yes, I think I agree with you.

Airing order
Chronological order
"Ep 0" first, then Chronological order
Random Order

(Note: I realise that my post above had a glaring error since there is no difference between "Kyon order (i.e. as aired)" and "Modified Kyon order ("Ep 0" first, folllowed by episodes as aired)". Thery are the same, oops. Error has now been corrected).

[C.A.]

Yes, I think I agree with you.

Airing order
Chronological order
"Ep 0" first, then Chronological order
Random Order

(Note: I realise that my post above had a glaring error since there is no difference between "Kyon order (i.e. as aired)" and "Modified Kyon order ("Ep 0" first, folllowed by episodes as aired)". Thery are the same, oops. Error has now been corrected).lol that's a really nice switching of places for Chronological and Airing orders, I think this should be sufficient :D

EDIT: The higher choice always seem to be the likelier choice to happen, no proof for that, but it just happens :p

[xris]

The first post is also very misleading as well since the mix up just makes it more confusing which is which. A better solution might be to recreate the entire thread (or at least heavily edit the first post).

I would also like to ask what is the actual point of the thread?

Is it....

1) A recommendation to first time viewers as to which order they should watch?
2) A personal preference as to how you would have preferred to watch the show?
3) A personal preference as to how you intend to rewatch the show?
4) Which order you prefer in general.

I know option 3 is specifically mentioned but IMHO the obvious answer is really the same with any show, that is watch it in order as was intended (i.e. the order it was aired).

I think it should really be a more general discussion covering all these aspects and include thoughts as to why it was reordered and the effect this has on the viewing experience.

EDIT: The higher choice always seem to be the likelier choice to happen, no proof for that, but it just happens
Curses, you notice my subtle ploy :)

No, no, no, of course I didn't do that on purpose, of course not :heh: I just rearranged them in alphabetical order, which is the correct way to arrange polls, ahem :innocent:

(or at least select the correct titles so the alphabetical order is the order you want in the first place, heh)

[C.A.]

Hmmm I would put it this way:

Thread name: Suzumiya Haruhi Episode Order Discussion Thread

Poll: Which order would you recommend first time viewers to watch in?
EDIT: To think again maybe a better Poll would be:

Poll: Which order do you think is the best way to watch?

Discussion: All of your 4 points.

1) A recommendation to first time viewers as to which order they should watch?
2) A personal preference as to how you would have preferred to watch the show?
3) A personal preference as to how you intend to rewatch the show?
4) Which order you prefer in general.

Point number 3 is probably for people who intend to watch the show, they may want to talk about how they're going to watch the show. Then some of us would reply to the person recommending him in various ways to watch, the pros and cons etc.

[mugener]

Poll: Which order do you think is the best way to watch?

Discussion: All of your 4 points.

1) A recommendation to first time viewers as to which order they should watch?
2) A personal preference as to how you would have preferred to watch the show?
3) A personal preference as to how you intend to rewatch the show?
4) Which order you prefer in general.


Couldn't agreed anymore. :cool:

oh, and I have to remind you, xris:

not EVERYONE like offical aired order, and it is not intended(DVDs don't use it), we have the right to dislike it and yell it out loudly.

God, KyoAni, if you are planing an 2nd season, don't ever do it with that dumbass order AGAIN, just give us the proper Chronological order already! :mad:

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[C.A.]

Couldn't agreed anymore. :cool:

oh, and I have to remind you, xris:

not EVERYONE like offical aired order, and it is not intended(DVDs don't use it), we have the right to dislike it and yell it out loudly.

God, KyoAni, if you are planing an 2nd season, don't ever do it with that dumbass order AGAIN, just give us the proper Chronological order already! :mad:

.lol before the thread is deleted:

The Airing order is actually much more interesting, in many ways better than the chronological order, especially for us who watched it every week.

This creates a suspense and longing to look forward to the future episodes. It batters us with questions from the start and then solves them all at once, giving us a huge sense of satisfaction.

This is the power of the random episode order.

It was a great experience and those who got it couldn't agree more that it was genius for kyoani to do this.

[Lost]

The Airing order is actually much more interesting, in many ways better than the chronological order, especially for us who watched it every week.

This creates a suspense and longing to look forward to the future episodes. It batters us with questions from the start and then solves them all at once, giving us a huge sense of satisfaction.

This is the power of the random episode order.

It was a great experience and those who got it couldn't agree more that it was genius for kyoani to do this.
I agree with you, but it wasnt exactly a random order, the way KyoAni did it. It would have taken a degree of planning.

About the 4 points of discussion, I would like to second it.

not EVERYONE like offical aired order, and it is not intended(DVDs don't use it), we have the right to dislike it and yell it out loudly.

God, KyoAni, if you are planing an 2nd season, don't ever do it with that dumbass order AGAIN, just give us the proper Chronological order already!
Perhaps you should explain why you didnt like it. :)

[xris]

oh, and I have to remind you, xris:

not EVERYONE like offical aired order, and it is not intended(DVDs don't use it), we have the right to dislike it and yell it out loudly.
I agree with you in that you may watch it in any order and you may have any preference you wish over such a matter. I thought my use of "IHHO" and smilies over the "rigging" of the vote order would make it clear that I was just expressing my own opinion over what I thought would be an obvious order for newcomers to watch.
but IMHO the obvious answer is really the same with any show, that is watch it in order as was intended (i.e. the order it was aired).
The question (to me at least) is the same for any show if someone asks "Which order should I watch the episodes in", and that the obvious order is the same as that in which they aired.

Now, how people actually watch it is entirely up to them and they may take the various recommendations and make use of them how they want :)

As to what will happen to this thread. It would be a shame to see it removed (or even locked) since there have been some actual discussion, even if it's just over semantics. Currently I would prefer to just delete the current poll and replace it with the suggestion made by C.A.. I may go ahead and do this but before the poll is opened again the first post needs to be modified and corrected (otherwise the confusion will continue).

[xris]

Changes now made so the poll is now open again. All of you who voted previously (10 people), please cast your vote again if you so wish (all previous votes have been lost).

My views?
First time round, I would recommend watching in the order as aired on T.V. I thought it was a interesting idea to rearrange the episodes and fits so well with the Suzumiya Haruhi experience.

As mentioned by restrain in an earlier post, if you wish to analyse the series then certainly the chronological order might help out sorting out some of the confusion, and it gives an extra reason to watch the entire series again. I'll certainly consider watching it in this order next time.

Is there a better order? Who knows, it's down to personal preference but if there was one change I might consider is that of the first episode. I've known a few people who have been put off by the first episode and I can understand a few reasons why that might be. An alternative might have been to show one of the "explanation" episodes first, so you are given some answers before you fully know the questions.

But for me, the series was original and fresh in it's own right and the seemingly random order of episodes added to the overall flavour of the series, and one that fitted very well. It has made the Spring 2005 seasons one of my all time favourites in terms of new shows and I expect I will look back at this time as a highlight in anime.

[mugener]

Perhaps you should explain why you didnt like it. :)

Guess I am the person who want to set basic things clear as soon as possible. ;)

I have an small discussion with John from Animenation, and he metioned that
if the show is in Chronological order, the second half of the series would be terribly dull compared to the first half.

The question is, why does anime must have big event to be it's ending?

In my view, ep9 is better then ep14 for an ending (and it IS the ending),
it's just like what life should be, and I like this feeling.

With first six eps in Chronological order, I can quickly get along with chars,
and enjoy the adventure with them in rest eps, even if those events are not big.

When I watch it in air order, I always find that there is an distance keep me away to get close the chars, and I don't like this distance, not at all.

So, to sum it up, Chronological order is what I strongly recommand for, no matter
you are an new comer, or want to watch this show again. :cool:

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[Shirobane]

I'd have to recommend Kyon's order on first viewing. On second viewing, I'd STILL recommend Kyon's order. It's a really unique way of presenting a story and with a second watch in the same order, all the easter eggs and jokes that may have been missed the first time through comes floating up ot the surface (especially the case of Asahina Mikuru no Boken ep 00). Only after that, I'd recommend watching it in Haruhi's order as I find episode 09/14 an overall better ending than 14/06.

For the first timers, I simply tell them to stick it through as questions may not be answered within the episode. So far that has gotten me 5 converts, so I can safely say that advice is working :D

[Bloodseeker]

Dammit! I accidentally clicked on "chronological order".

[Deathkillz]

IMO the best order would be kyon's...this is because it was totally unique and the 00 ep did catch my attention pretty bad :heh: and also the actual ending does kinda sux so watching in chronological order might be a letdown...

[Animexcel]

pardon me, but this is kind of lame. I'd watch it the way they presented it.

[Arimfe]

pardon me, but this is kind of lame. I'd watch it the way they presented it.
Such misleading propaganda:heh:

@mods/admins: Can you mark "DVD order" or something along those lines where it is appropriate?
Otherwise people will just keep bombarding with the "the way it was intended" argument, and with the DVD comming up said argument is only half of the truth.

That said, I had my own custom order I followed, and of course I can recommend it to everyone new to Haruhi.

(11) (1) (2) (7) (3) (9) (10) (8) (4) (5) (12) (13) (14) (6)

^The numbers by themselves are from the chronological order, making my order a sort of hybrid between broadcast and something else:heh:
( meaning TVep1=(11) TVep2=(1) TVep3=(2) TVep4=(7) )

Translating my order numbers into episodes broadcasted, it would be like this:
TVep1, TVep2, TVep3, TVep4, TVep5, TVep6, TVep8, TVep7, TVep10, TVep13, TVep12, TVep11, TVep9, Tvep14

[Vexx]

<shrug> I like watching it in Haruhi order, then Kyon order.. then take a break and start again :)

[i0td]

I'd have to recommend Kyon's order on first viewing. On second viewing, I'd STILL recommend Kyon's order. It's a really unique way of presenting a story and with a second watch in the same order, all the easter eggs and jokes that may have been missed the first time through comes floating up ot the surface (especially the case of Asahina Mikuru no Boken ep 00).
Strongly agree. By watching it through the Kyon timeline, you will be able to pick up many of the hints and foreshadowing that was present in this series. In addition, it's just a lot more fun to watch everything play out the way it does the way the story is presented. If you are only interested in the brunt of the story dealing with Haruhi, go with the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya parts I-VI (Haruhi timeline). Of course, if those are the only episodes you are after, you will be depriving yourself of a real treat. So simple conclusion: choose a timeline and enjoy all of this excellent series. :)

[CrowKenobi]

I went 'as aired on tv' because as others have said, you can pick up stuff Kyoani put in the 'later earlier' episodes and point 'em out.

One example I can give is at the end of 'Yuutsu VI' (14/6) there is a scene where the camera is panning through the school courtyard and you can see two girls (one with a guitar) sitting under a tree. With episode 12/12 airing first, you can immediately point out that they are two members of the band that Haruhi helped during the school festival. If they aired the episodes chronologically, would anyone have made that connection?

As for seeing "The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina" first, I 'got' that this was a bad student film, and at the same time it was lampooning various anime genres. The brilliance of this episode is shown later when everyone is introduced and the plot is uncovered. :D

[Lost]

As for seeing "The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina" first, I 'got' that this was a bad student film, and at the same time it was lampooning various anime genres. The brilliance of this episode is shown later when everyone is introduced and the plot is uncovered. :D
Definitely agree. That episode hooked me to SHnY because up to then, I hadn't laugh so much in a single episode, and I didnt even get any of the anime genres they parodied. It was that funny on its own.

[mugener]

Such misleading propaganda:heh:

@mods/admins: Can you mark "DVD order" or something along those lines where it is appropriate?
Otherwise people will just keep bombarding with the "the way it was intended" argument, and with the DVD comming up said argument is only half of the truth.

I agree.

When Suzumiya Haruhi come to US with DVD box set, most people will watch it
in Chronological order, unless they want to switch DVDs from time to time. :rolleyes:

So I'll say that Chronological order will remain when time pass by, since the air order only exist in fansub.

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[C.A.]

Then it must be a great privilege for the Japanese audience and people who watched the subs every week. For we have experienced first hand the brilliance of the random episode ordering.

If it indeed goes chrono for licensing, I can only think of all the lower ratings and poor popularity the show will recieve. I worry for Haruh-sama.

[Lost]

Guess I am the person who want to set basic things clear as soon as possible.

I have an small discussion with John from Animenation, and he metioned that
if the show is in Chronological order, the second half of the series would be terribly dull compared to the first half.

The question is, why does anime must have big event to be it's ending?

In my view, ep9 is better then ep14 for an ending (and it IS the ending),
it's just like what life should be, and I like this feeling.

With first six eps in Chronological order, I can quickly get along with chars,
and enjoy the adventure with them in rest eps, even if those events are not big.

When I watch it in air order, I always find that there is an distance keep me away to get close the chars, and I don't like this distance, not at all.

So, to sum it up, Chronological order is what I strongly recommand for, no matter
you are an new comer, or want to watch this show again.

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Because an ending would leave the viewer with the last impression, it is something that would want to leave the viewer with a great feeling; a feeling that it was worth it watching the series. In most cases, it would have to be a climax. It needing to have a climax is not always the rule tho. What is a rule is that it must have a gentle but definite conclusion. I don't mean definite conclusion as in their lifes or stories ending, but one in which you understand that the current 'episode' (i.e. the current story) is over for now.

Most times, an ending would also want to make you look forward to the continuation of a series.

Episode 9 (chronologically, 14) was a beautifully dreary episode and certainly a fitting end for a show titled The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya; but if the series had ended that way as compared to Episode 14 (chronologically, 6) I would have felt cheated. Linked to the reasons I wrote above; if episode 9 was shown as the ending, it wouldn't have been as much of an 'life goes on ending' as a complete stop; a halt. This isn't like reading the novel where we can pick up the next book after reading one; this is a series and from a series point of view we would have to wait at least a year for it to continue.

I suppose in the end it boils down to personal preference. I can't really understand what you mean by that distance. In anycase, I'm just glad that KyoAni was considerate enough to give a clue to as to its chronlogical order. :D

When Suzumiya Haruhi come to US with DVD box set, most people will watch it
in Chronological order, unless they want to switch DVDs from time to time.
Do you mean its confirmed that the DVDs will be in chrono order? I suddenly feel sad. :(

[SnakeLegend]

As for me, I do recommend everyone watching it at their own way. Everyone's different from one another so its hard to choose which. All i can say is either watch This way or That way first, then you watch the other way too.

[mugener]

Do you mean its confirmed that the DVDs will be in chrono order? I suddenly feel sad. :(

Sorry, pal. I am deadly sure that the Japan DVD set do use Chronological order instead of broadcast order.

If the Origin country's DVD set use Chronological order, I don't see any reason
that US DVD set refuse to use this order.

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[Lost]

Noooooooooo~ Anyhow. Serious now. Hmmm.. now I'm very curious. Why exactly would they do that? Has it (this releasing in non-airing order) been done before, or is this a precedent? I don't understand why the DVD would release them in any order except the airing order.

:confused:

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Noooooooooo~ Anyhow. Serious now. Hmmm.. now I'm very curious. Why exactly would they do that? Has it (this releasing in non-airing order) been done before, or is this a precedent? I don't understand why the DVD would release them in any order except the airing order.

:confused:
But that will be too easy, wouldn't it? If KyoAni was that kind of studio, they wouldn't have bothered to shuffle the airing order to begin with.:D

And technically, they aren't releasing the DVD in Haruhi(tv airing) order. They are releasing the DVD in Yuki order. The fact that episode 11 was still released first, means Haruhi-order is still not followed. That's why KyoAni changed the previews in the DVD so that Yuki was the one announcing in it.;)

[X207]

just watched 2-3 eps. prefer chronological. haruhi is one weird and cruel person

[Theclow]

I vote for Aired by TV, I don't know I just like the order it's in I guess.

[Pink-chan]

That's why this anime is very interesting. I never thought I will fall in love with it when I just started watching. I'll recommend watching in Kyon's order and rewatch it in Haruhi's order. That'll give us full and complete experience.

[Choki]

i would watch it from eps 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,7,9,10,11,12,13,14
i really went :confused: when they suddenly jumped the Remote Island Syndrome eps...
other then that everything else is fun =D

[X207]

i find haruhi a bit weird because the random ep airing. but know the chronological order makes it much easier to follow

[Agent86]

I've watched it in Kyon order twice, once in Haruhi order, and once in strict chronological order.

I've read that Tanigawa Nagaru (the author of the light novels) suggested to KyoAni that the episodes be done out of chronological order. Whether he did that or not, I think it was a great idea. It spreads the "exciting" events of Melancholy and the "wacky hijinks" of the later episodes through the entire run. It also adds a feeling of temporal befuddlement which probably matches the narrator's uneasiness with the events unfolding around him.

Haruhi order drags around Lone Island Syndrome, but events are explained in a more linear fashion. Strict chronological also drags around Lone Island, and loses the successive "OMG" revelations about Adventures of Mikuru-run that you get with Haruhi or Kyon order.

Someday In The Rain is not a great ending to the series, but since we all expect/hope/pray for (at least) a second season, it serves as a excellent interlude.

So I'd say Kyon (more exciting) or Haruhi (clearer) order, but Adventures of Mikuru-run first whatever you do.

[Kikaifan]

On the side: I watched Sexy Commando at the same time, and the parody-on-top-of-parody effect was really great. I don't know if it'll work for anybody else, but I tenatively recommend watching another highschool-comedy-comedy with it.

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

anybody mentioned about watching The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya from only the 6 episodes that tell the real story??
like watching episodes 2,3,5,10,13,and 14 and after watching those 6, you can just watch the rest of the other episodes in any order if you want....
but i would recommend this only after you haved watched the episodes in Kyon's order first.
I noticed this when i watched the series for a second time....since most of the other episodes were somewhat fillers to the real story behind Haruhi...
just my opinion though:)

[Rin-Sama]

Croniligical order would be the best. it maybe a chaotic series but that doesn't mean you should confuse the hell out of your audiance.

[dKiWi]

If I was recommending SHnY to a would-be Haruhiist, I wud definitely recommand watching it in episodic order. This is the way that brought abt much satisfaction for me as a newbie, and there is a purpose to doing it that way anyway.

Remember what Mikuru said abt time not being continuouous? That it is like frames in an anime? If u watch it in episodic order then chronological order, u will see that this process is actually a PROOF of this statement.

Note that when watching in episodic order, the bits of information scattered around from the future did not really interfere with the final impact episode 14 brought about. It wasnt very confusing at all. In fact, I believed that all of that happened in between The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi I-VI in some order instead of after, and this did not really spoil the experience at all.

Remember the basic fallacy to why authors dislike to write abt time travel: because it cant seem to work out properly. For example if u go back in time to kill your grandmother, u couldnt possibly have done it!

However most of this authors have not actually studied a deeper part of Physics, which is the science of Truth. They choose to instead use human logic, which is often wrong (yea I'm sure the world is flat). We need physics to show us the truth. I sincerely am believing Nagara Kanigawa did, even tho he is a graduate from law school. Probably did in in high school, or he is interested in physics, or HECK he took a physics module in university. Look at all the equations in the OP.. T_T

Since time isnt continuous, and is made up of discrete packets, then if u go back in time to kill your mother, then that situation is isolated. I believe that there will be a certain probability that

a. Your mother would be born b4 your grandmother was killed.
b. You would exist even if your grandmother did not, but the reason wud be blocked out of ppl's heads. And onli u wud be aware that u killed your grandmother.

Or something like that. I'm no fiction or physics expert, but I wud roughly describe it as this. As in any event that occurs in the past will not create too huge a time ripple in the future.

If u analyse the star-shaped mole incident and RE-watch (not watch) in chronological order, I think u'll get wad I mean.

Watching in episodic and then chronological is THE SHnY experience IMO, then mayb if u are REALLY bored and have TONS of time one day u might find yourself randomly clicking and who knows....

[Potatochobit]

the first time i went through the show i was very confused after episode 2. so the only thing i might change is to put a different episode after #2 that showed one of the characters developing their special talent, like maybe the missing computer person episode.

[0TaKu0]

Os~ minasan,

I just started watching this anime and noticed its peculiar-ness in about 4 episodes, really the concept it self is so artistically amazing, its not a wonder this title is such a great hit.

The way I discovered its secret was, after watching the 4th episode and realizing it was no way related or connected to episode 3 I was all “WTF?”. So the curious person that I am I decided to scroll through every episode and fast forward to the end to watch the PREVIEW of the next episode to see if I can find a matching episode that comes after episode 3 and bam, episode 5 was the matching episode after 3. At first I thought this was very strange and thought maybe who ever uploaded the torrent miss-labeled the episodes.

That’s when I realized that during the end, every time Suzumiya Haruhi says the number of the next episode and Kyon scolds her and tells her its wrong, was not a joke. The truth was Suzumiya Haruhi’s order was the chronological one, while Kyon’s was the Aired order.

In any case after discovering this I came to a dilemma >_< I could not decide which way I wanted to watch the anime, a part of me wanted to watch the rest of the anime from Suzumiya Haruhi’s perspective (chronological) and the other part of me wanted to watch it in Kyon’s perspective because I did not want to destroy/miss out on its artistic-ness which makes it a great anime (Curse me for being some one who likes to enjoy Anime to its fullest and figuring out the secret of this anime so early on in the series, because now every time I watch it in the back of my mind I’m thinking this is not the correct order . . . ). So! Google to the rescue and it lead me to this form and this topic.

After reading this, I guess because I consider my self a true anime fan (would even go as far as to use the word otaku <- looked down upon in Japan) it’s the only right thing to do is to watch the anime the way it was aired, then watch it chronologically or I couldn’t call my self a true anime fan.

So I hope this helped those who came across this or a similar confliction. Ciao~ <3

[0TaKu0]

@_@; Whoa double post ignore this or mod delete this onegai~

[Klashikari]

sorry if i would probably bring more confusion, but is it possible that "haruhi" order is NOT the chronological one?

you see, there are several weird stuff about the order given by haruhi.

List of the episodes + the next one, following haruhi order

01) "The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina - Episode 00" => go to episode 1 (loop)
02) "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya I" => go to episode 2 (loop)
03) "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II" => go to episode 7
04) "The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya" => go to episode 3
05) "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya III" => go to episode 9
06) "Remote Island Syndrome (Part I)" => go to episode 8
07) "Mystérique Sign" => go to episode 10
08) "Remote Island Syndrome (Part II)" => go to episode 14
09) "Someday in the Rain" => go to episode 4
10) "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya IV" => go to episode 13
11) "The Day of Sagittarius" => go to episode 12
12) "Live Alive" => go to episode 5
13) "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya V" => go to episode 6
14) "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya VI" => none

the beginning is simple : since haruhi gives a loop directory, we have no other choice than ignoring that and following the logical order (kyon/aired one)...for the moment !

so it is for the start : 1 => 2 => 3

followed by : 03 => 07 => 10 => 13 => 06 => 08 => 14

as you probably know/guess, since the 14 is "officially" the last episode aired, there isn't any announcement for "next episode", so you have to follow the remaining episodes "end announcement clue" to determine their place in the head of the order (since the first 2 episode are kinda screwed)

which led to : 11 => 12 => 05 => 09 => 04 => 03

finally, we got this weird haruhi order : 01 // 02 // 11 => 12 => 05 => 09 => 04 => 03 => 08 => 10 => 13 => 06 => 08 => 14
compare with the chronological order : 02 => 03 => 05 => 10 => 13 => 14 => 04 => 07 => 06 => 08 => 01 => 12 => 11 => 09
*note : i didn't link the first and second episode with the others since there isn't any "haruhi" clue about their place, they could be either at the top or the end of the chain. now, indeed, we all know that the second episode should be the very first, plot/content wise, but that point aside, we can't determine with only haruhi commenting it.

this is kinda weird, and i'm really wondering how did KyoAni end to an order like this.
however, i'm perfectly sure that haruhi does not give the "chronological" order, since it certainly does not follow the logic order according the titles and the novels (previous episode to the 3rd is 4th instead of 2, etc etc)

did i do something wrong?

EDIT : if i'm correct, this means there are 3 orders :
1) kyon's/aired one (simply 1 => 14)
2) Chronological (requires some information from novels/titles and some brainstorming)
3) Haruhi's order (err... Haruhi-ic order ? (read joke/random/fool order, whatever) )

maybe it's just some silly haruhi's joke and shouldn't be taken seriously. or maybe it's a random order simply to try it and consider as real randomness possible (which is, indeed, not really common among animes that have a central plot)

[dKiWi]

hmmm this seems QUITE interesting...

[Klashikari]

i made my post clearer. sorry for my bad english, kinda sucks, i know ~~

anyway, i'm trying the "haruhi' order to determine if there is something behind or just some "haruhi-ic" randomness :heh:

[0TaKu0]

Ok, just finished watching the whole thing, and i wrote this up as i watched. This will fix any questions and give all answer's to the order and whatever Klashikari might want to read this.

Ok this contains alot of spoiler's so dont say i dident warn you, any way i tried my best to type it out to make it as understandable as possible, its 4 AM I'm very tired so excuse my spelling and grammer i dident really bother with it ^_^ if there any questions about this, or you have some contradiction to what i typed send me a PM or post here. Any way please click "Spoiler"



Kyon/Aired EP 2 = Suzumiya EP 1 The Melancholy Of Suzumiya Haruhi I (One):

These are all connected by titles and episode content i wont bother to type out how or why they are connected just watch it in this order and you'll see

Kyon/Aired EP 3 = Suzumiya EP 2 The Melancholy Of Suzumiya Haruhi II (Two):

These are all connected by titles and episode content i wont bother to type out how or why they are connected just watch it in this order and you'll see

Kyon/Aired EP 5 = Suzumiya EP 3 The Melancholy Of Suzumiya Haruhi III (Three):

These are all connected by titles and episode content i wont bother to type out how or why they are connected just watch it in this order and you'll see


Kyon/Aired EP 10 = Suzumiya EP 4 The Melancholy Of Suzumiya Haruhi IV (Four):

These are all connected by titles and episode content i wont bother to type out how or why they are connected just watch it in this order and you'll see


Kyon/Aired EP 13 = Suzumiya EP 5 The Melancholy Of Suzumiya Haruhi V (Five):

These are all connected by titles and episode content i wont bother to type out how or why they are connected just watch it in this order and you'll see


Kyon/Aired EP14 = Suzumiya EP 6 The Melancholy Of Suzumiya Haruhi VI (Six)

Alright, i wana talk a little bit about THIS episode (Kyon EP 14) = (Suzumiya EP 6) first let me connect this episode to the episode below it by saying, in the episode below this koizumi makes a little joke asking kyon how he got out of that "other world" (by kissing suzumiya ofcourse)

Ok the other thing i want to say about this episode is, THIS episode is like a "Ending", you could ALMOST say that the whole "The Meloncholy Of Suzumiya Haruhi I (one) through VI (six) episode's is like a 6 episode OVA that ends with THIS episode but THIS IS NOT THE REAL ENDING

Here's the proof, at the END of this very episode when the credits start to roll what do we see? we see a picture of suzumiya sticking her tounge out in a sketchy form drawing, and guess where that shot is from? the REAL ending which is (Kyon EP 9)=(Haruhi EP 14) ^^


Kyon/Aired EP 4 = Suzumiya EP 7 The Boredom Of Suzumiya Haruhi:

Obviously this episode is connected to the one above because in this episode as i said Koizumi makes a joke asking how did they get out of the "other world"


Kyon/Aired EP 7 = Suzumiya EP 8 Mysterique Sign:

at the very start of this episode Kyon says after spending Tanabata in a state of melancholy Tanabata is held during July 7th every year, in the episode above this, they are in the month of june and it is clearly stated June -> July, hence this episode is connected to the one above this


Kyon/Aired EP 6 = Suzumiya EP 9 Remote Island Syndrome (Part One):

This and the one below this are the only two left for me to connect, ill connect both of these because right at the start of this episode suzumiya states their summer vacation trip has been decided ( The Episode (Kyon 7) = (Suzumiya 8) was held during July so, its summer break) hence these two are connected to the higher one.


Kyon/Aired EP 8 = Suzumiya EP 10 Remote Island Syndrome (Part Two):

Connection? Read above.


Kyon/Aired EP 1 = Suzumiya EP 11 Miku-rin-rin Movie:

After watching this episode, watch episode (kyon 12) = (Suzumiya 12) you will see how obvious that this episode (is really episode 11 and not 00),

IT IS NOT EPISODE 00 because, if you check the ending of every episode where they show the preview to the next one, you will notice Haruhi's episode count is missing EPISODE 11, and in this episode at the end kyon goes "Uhh haruhi what was the number of this episode?" she ignores it and goes on about the next one.

Also!

@ The start of (kyon 12) = (Suzumiya 12) they show Miku-rin-rin movie, and @ 3:45 Kyon's friend mentions how he was in the movie and dident get payd for it. Also in episode (kyon 12) = (Suzumiya 12) right at the start he mentions how they made the movie OVER NIGHT, and dident get NO SLEEP, which means this episode was RIGHT before (kyon 12) = (Suzumiya 12),

And, at the end of this episode Suzumiya mentions how this film will get them alot of shit @ the cultural festival.

Making this episode (kyon 01 or 00 as others call it) is actully (Suzumiya 11)


Kyon/Aired EP12 = Suzumiya EP 12 Live A Live. :

Yakisoba, Mikuru's cosplay, proof that THIS episode (kyon 12) = (Suzumiya 12) is connected to the one under it, because in the next episode down there (kyon EP11) = (Suzumiya EP13) @ 5:05 mins, kyon mentions Asahina-san's maid cosplay during the festivle.


Kyon/Aired EP 11 = Suzumiya EP 13 Day of Sagittarius. :

@ 3:12 he mentions the season is Autumn, the next episode which is (kyon EP9) = (Suzumiya EP 14) it says its December so autumn is when winter is starting, also this is the episode the 4 laptops are bet in a contest, and won from the computer club.


Kyon/Aired EP 9 = Suzumiya EP 14 Someday in the rain.:

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE LAST EPISODE.
It's December, Notice the laptops kyon looks at exactly 3:24 from (kyon EP 11) = (Suzumiya EP 13) that they won from the computer club. Notice how kyon keeps saying its been half a year like sence he meet them 3 times.


Not to mention this episode has all the elements of a last episode, he looks at all the memorial stuff the baseball mitts, bats, balls, the pictures taken at the beach, the witherd tree, the PC they jackd, the 4 laptops, this episode shows every character, (the extra's) friends etc, (except asakura cause she was "deleted), and during the end, we finally see some "action" where hes asleep and wakes up catches haruhi next to him and she backs up, perhap's she was watching him, or (obviously put her jacket on him while he was sleeping), or leaning in for a kiss? <(doubt this one, i wish) XD but yea. One last element this episode has that proves this is a ending, is that its SHITTY, just like every other anime Usally tragic, or some what happy, or.. room left over for a sequel but never a perfectly happy ending.

Also, for those who still say episode (Kyon EP 14) (Suzumiya EP 6) is the real ending, please watch that episode and look at the sketchy drawin picture of haruhi sticking her tounge out at the end when the credits roll then watch the ending of this episode.

So this concludes that, there IS infact NO episode 00 the FIRST episode you see where they show the Miku-rin-rin movie is actully episode 11 (episode 11 in chronological order that is), AND Suzumiya Haruhi's Order is MOST DEFENETLY CHRONLOGICAL! While kyon's is the aired order, the ONLY time they match is with EPISODE 12, both are the same.



and now its time for me to sleep, Ja~

[Klashikari]

i have read carefully your answers, but that wasn't really what i mean't ^^'
i'm aware of the common chronological order, and i ended also in a "chronological" order like this (without spoiler, but lots of brainstorming like you did, some details and facts which give obvious hints about which episode should be the next, and so on)

BUT, i was just pointing the fact that, saying "haruhi order" as the "chronological order" is plain incorrect, or not based on the same facts.
in my case, i was only focusing on haruhi hint of the next episode, which is clearly messed. (the 2 loops, no direct connection between episode 02 => 03 => 05 => 10 => 13 => 14, etc )

this isn't supposed to (mis)lead another "true logic order", but the meaning of my post was demonstrating that haruhi gives nothing but a chaotic order.

anyway, i'm aware that the true order is :
02 => 03 => 05 => 10 => 13 => 14 => 04 => 07 => 06 => 08 => 01 => 12 => 11 => 09

but like i stated above, haruhi gives an order like this :
01 // 02 // 11 => 12 => 05 => 09 => 04 => 03 => 08 => 10 => 13 => 06 => 08 => 14

so, we shouldn't mixing "haruhi order" and "chronological order", they ARE NOT THE SAME (although the topic used "aired" and "chronological" terms, lots of people still think that haruhi gives the chronological, which is false)

[0TaKu0]

MM hmm I see what you mean, your not totally wrong, but your not toally right either.

First you typed this:


but like i stated above, haruhi gives an order like this :
01 // 02 // 11 => 12 => 05 => 09 => 04 => 03 => 08 => 10 => 13 => 06 => 08 => 14


Your wrong, thats not the order haruhi gives,

After watching the ends of the episodes this is what it really is:

Kyon Order:
1 (kyon ask's Haruhi what episode was this? and is ignored), 2, 3, 4, 5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14

Haruhi Order:
(Haruhi doesnt say anthing about the aired/episode 1 she ignores kyon when kyon ask's her what episode this was and goes stright to commenting on aired/episode 2 SO the order looks like)

1, 2, 7, 3, 9, 8, 10, 14, 4, 13, 12, 5, 6. <(Please notice episode 11 is missing from the order she call's out because the Aired/episode 1 is actually episode 11, WHICH she MADE no comment on, and ignored kyon and its up to US to put the aired/episode 1 in the 11 slot)

So Klashikari, your correct about one thing the order that haruhi gives is infact not chronological, BUT only in a technicality.

The order that haruhi gives might not be chronological but theres NO DOUBT she is naming out which number is the Correct number for which episode. Ex: 2 = 1, 3 = 2 , 4 = 7 etc etc...

So in the end Haruhi named out the correct number for the correct episode so WE can put it in Chronological Order.

I can only come to the conclusion that there IS No Haruhi Order she was following the aired/kyon order but correcting kyon and naming out the correct number for the correct episode ^_______________^

Down there is the order that kyon and haruhi gives but in dialog format.


Aired/Episode 1:

Kyon: "Haruhi, by the way what episode was today's...?"
Haruhi: Ignores it and says "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 1!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 2!"

Aired/Episode 2:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 2!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 3!"

Aired/Episode 3:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 7!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 4!"

Aired/Episode 4:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 3!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 5!"

Aired/Episode 5:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 9!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 6!"

Aired/Episode 6:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 8!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 7!"

Aired/Episode 7:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 10!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 8!"

Aired/Episode 8:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 14!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 9!"

Aired/Episode 9:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 4!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 10!"

Aired/Episode 10:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 13!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 11!"

Aired/Episode 11:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 12!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 12!"

Aired/Episode 12:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 5!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 13!"

Aired/Episode 13:

Haruhi: "Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Epispde 6!"
Kyon: "Wrong! Next time on the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya: Epispde 14!"

Aired/Episode 14

Haruhi: Nothing
Kyon: Nothing


^_^ None the less, one thing for sure. There is a definite possibility that there will be a season 2! Haruhi never learn'd about who she really is, and kyon and haruhi never expressed their feelings for eachother (not really).

[Klashikari]

mea culpa... sheesh, i was taking her numbers as the following one using the "aired numbers", i didn't expect haruhi telling the "next episode" its real number in fact. >_<

sounds like i was tricked right like kyon ~~

[Sogoro]

I believe the concept developer, artist, writer or w/e their called did a great job on making it in the way that it was. It brings up alot of questions that keeps people, like myself, who like bizarre styles to keep watching. I had a "wtf?" moment when I first started watching. But overall I liked how the anime was put together.

[Ero-Espada]

I personally prefer the Airing order because its a part of the Anime story, i was really confused when i first watched this anime becuase i thought "Did the website i download it from number the eps wrong?!" then i noticed it was just a wierdly written story

[dKiWi]

The Haruhi order doesnt make any sense at all. How the heck can u watch Lone Island Syndrome II first...

My conclusion is that the point of Haruhi's order and the interaction with Kyon is to further reinforce the view that without Kyon, Haruhi would swing wildly out of control, thus the world will be destroyed and remade many times over. With Haruhi selecting and subsequently interacting with Kyon, the human race is able to evolve at a slow, controlled pace and develop both knowledge and supposedly supernatural powers while the laws of physics are obeyed, but subsequently linking up with more discovered laws slowly.

In a nutshell, Kyon is the voice of reason and is correct most of the time but he is useless to the human race without Haruhi. Haruhi on the other hand has great potential for our auto-evolution, but will destroy us and our world without Kyon's help.

Otherwise Haruhi wud juz blow through entire chunks of the laws of physics without any proper connections, possibly creating a horrendously chaotic world. It is already said by Koizumi that huge blue giants cannot exist due to their weight. Thus godzilla cannot exist, but ants CAN carry loads of up to 50 times their body weight. This is the properties of the initial world She has created, and for it to be lost would be a sad thing indeed.

About trust, from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_%28sociology%29

1. Placement of trust allows actions that otherwise are not possible.

2. If the person in whom trust is placed (trustee) is trustworthy, then the trustor will be better off than if he or she had not trusted. Conversely, if the trustee is not trustworthy, then the trustor will be worse off than if he or she had not trusted.

3. Trust is an action that involves the voluntary placement of resources (physical, financial, intellectual, or temporal) at the disposal of the trustee with no real commitment from the trustee.

4. A time lag exists between the extension of trust and the result of the trusting behavior.

Juz something to ponder abt ^^

[Vexx]

Haruhi and Kyon are complementary and necessary for each other... order and chaos. I find it most entertaining to view the show first in aired order (haruhi) and then in timeline order (kyon). Viewed both ways you catch a lot of the nuance as well as the skill of the VAs in showing the relationship growth.

[dKiWi]

Yes... that muz be the purpose. I regret not watching episode previews for animes.. this has taught me a lesson. Will do it from now on.

[AK-kun]

Watch it in airing order first, once, get the gist of it, then watch it again in chronological order. That's what I did.

[Anaglyph]

Watch it in airing order first, once, get the gist of it, then watch it again in chronological order. That's what I did.

Same here. I've watched it several times now, though I usually find it hard to forego the big ending accompanied by Mahler (stroke of genius), but it's nice to see the characters and their relationships developing more coherently with the chronological order. They each have their pros and cons; either way's rewarding.

[Samatarou]

If you watch the series in all possible orders then the true nature of the universe will become clear. However this means watching it 87,178,291,200 times. The only way to do this in your lifetimes is to speed it up about 100,000 times so each permutation of the series is compressed into a blipvert lasting approx 1/40 second. Sadly this will cause you to explode.

The next best thing is to watch it in both orders.

I agree with those who say that you must {grit your teeth and} watch "episode 00" first, since I think the whole point of that episode is misdirection — when I first saw it, like many people I assumed the central character that was being called "Mikuru" within the dorama must in fact be Suzumiya Haruhi, since the whole ep. focussed on her. Only after the (false) credits had rolled did the truth dawn and the true style of the series become clear. Very clever, but a rather overlong joke I felt.

[dKiWi]

not a overlong joke if u have already read the novels like alot of Japanese hu picked up the series in Japan due to Hirano Aya's live-action commercial did before it was aired. ^^

It IS however overlong for those hu have not already read the novels, which makes most of the world. The popularity of SHnY however shows how alot of ppl manage to make it thru, and were rewarded as a result :)

[KaneDragon]

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6009/4chanwhatisanaml2.png (http://bin.4chan.org/a/imgboard.html)

[whitewater_81]

DAMMIT I'M F*****G CONFUSED!!!:mad:
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.*takes moment to cool down*........whew....

c..c...could somebody please help me?My mind is really messed up with reading past posts in this thread..

okay so tell me if the order i put the episode in is right or wrong.....

1. Mikuru Asahina's Adventure Episode 00 - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 11th episode. - Haruhi order
2. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya I- Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 1st episode - Haruhi order
3. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 2nd episode - Haruhi order
4. The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 7th episode - Haruhi order
5. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya III - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 3rd episode - Haruhi order
6. Remote Island Syndrome (Part 1) - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 9th episode - Haruhi order
7. Mysterique Sign - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 8th episode - Haruhi order
8. Remote Island Syndrome (Part 2) - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 10th episode - Haruhi order
9. Someday In The Rain - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 14th episode - Haruhi order
10. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya IV - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 4th episode - Haruhi order
11. The Day Of Sagittarius - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 13th episode - Haruhi order
12. Live Alive - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 12th episode - Haruhi order
13. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya V - Kyon order
Chronologically, this is the 5th episode - Haruhi order
14. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya VI - Kyon- order
Chronologically, this is the 6th episode - Haruhi order

and the Airing order is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14??????:confused: :confused:

please someone help me......I'm soooooooo confused.....:(

[CrowKenobi]

DAMMIT I'M F*****G CONFUSED!!!:mad:
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.*takes moment to cool down*........whew....

c..c...could somebody please help me?My mind is really messed up with reading past posts in this thread..
and the Airing order is 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14??????:confused: :confused:

please someone help me......I'm soooooooo confused.....:(The broadcast order is the Kyon order... :D Your confusion is numbering the Kyon episode order 1-14 (the episodes keep the chronilogical <Haruhi> numbering sequence, they just aired out of sequence).

Kyon (as aired on TV) order: 11, 1, 2, 7, 3, 9, 8, 10, 14, 4, 13, 12, 5, 6

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[whitewater_81]

Then watch every other episode in Kyon's order:
1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 12, 11, 9.
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@CrowKenobi - I thought this ^^ was Kyon's order???:confused:

The only thing i'm sure ( I think) is this is Haruhi's order which (i think) is the chronological order.....am i right??pls tell me...:(
Haruhi -Chronological order
2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 1, 12, 11, 9.

[CrowKenobi]

Kyon (as aired on TV) order: 11, 1, 2, 7, 3, 9, 8, 10, 14, 4, 13, 12, 5, 6

:cool:
Originally Posted by NoSanninWa http://forums.animesuki.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=663712#post663712)
Then watch every other episode in Kyon's order:
1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 12, 11, 9.@CrowKenobi - I thought this ^^ was Kyon's order???:confused:

The only thing i'm sure ( I think) is this is Haruhi's order which (i think) is the chronological order.....am i right??pls tell me...:(
Haruhi -Chronological order
2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 1, 12, 11, 9.I emphasized "as aired on TV" because that's how it aired, but The Adventures of Mikuru Asashina is the wildcard. It is episode 11, but it was the first episode aired.
The numbering NSW gave you is in the Kyon order (based on the aired episode's sequence) put in the chronilogical (Haruhi) order.

To make it less confusing:

Kyon order/Haruhi order
01 / 11
02 / 01
03 / 02
04 / 07
05 / 03
06 / 09
07 / 08
08 / 10
09 / 14
10 / 04
11 / 13
12 / 12
13 / 05
14 / 06The episodes are numbered according to the chronilogical (Haruhi) order but were aired out of sequence (Kyon). Does that help? :D

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[whitewater_81]

I emphasized "as aired on TV" because that's how it aired, but The Adventures of Mikuru Asashina is the wildcard. It is episode 11, but it was the first episode aired.
The numbering NSW gave you is in the Kyon order (based on the aired episode's sequence) put in the chronilogical (Haruhi) order.

To make it less confusing:

Kyon order/Haruhi order
01 / 11
02 / 01
03 / 02
04 / 07
05 / 03
06 / 09
07 / 08
08 / 10
09 / 14
10 / 04
11 / 13
12 / 12
13 / 05
14 / 06The episodes are numbered according to the chronilogical (Haruhi) order but were aired out of sequence (Kyon). Does that help? :D

:cool:

Yeah.That does help a lot.Thanks!:D

But one last thing...:heh: ...so everybody was saying i should watch the Airing order first...so if i were to do that i should follow this order then??

Kyon (as aired on TV) order: 11, 1, 2, 7, 3, 9, 8, 10, 14, 4, 13, 12, 5, 6

then next is the chronological order which is i should watch is this

2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 1, 12, 11, 9.

if i'm wrong,please just specify what eps i should watch first then after that, the next set of eps i should watch....BTW,sorry if i'm so stupid and cnofused.It's like 2a.m. here and my mind is like a blank sheet of paper..:heh: Thanks for helping me!:D

[CrowKenobi]

Yeah.That does help a lot.Thanks!:D

But one last thing...:heh: ...so everybody was saying i should watch the Airing order first...so if i were to do that i should follow this order then??

Kyon (as aired on TV) order: 11, 1, 2, 7, 3, 9, 8, 10, 14, 4, 13, 12, 5, 6 <--REARRANGE TO NUMERICAL ORDER 1-14

then next is the chronological order which is i should watch is this

2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 1, 12, 11, 9. <---IGNORE

if i'm wrong,please just specify what eps i should watch first then after that, the next set of eps i should watch....BTW,sorry if i'm so stupid and cnofused.It's like 2a.m. here and my mind is like a blank sheet of paper..:heh: Thanks for helping me!:DClose, but you have to remember: the Kyon order is the Haruhi order viewed out of order. :D To view the eps chronologically, arrange the Kyon order in numerical order (and just ignore the second set of numbers because you're just confusing yourself) ;)

:cool:

[whitewater_81]

Close, but you have to remember: the Kyon order is the Haruhi order viewed out of order. :D To view the eps chronologically, arrange the Kyon order in numerical order (and just ignore the second set of numbers because you're just confusing yourself) ;)

:cool:


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a~hah!!NOW I GET IT!*knocks head*..so that's how it is....THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!The colors really helped me alot.lol.:heh: Anyways,thank you again for your patience and for being a very helpful guy(correct me if i'm wrong with the "guy" part but i doubt that.:heh: )

:D

[zoozoc]

Not sure if anyone else posted this idea, but i think the best order would be showing episode 2 first, so that viewers have an idea of at least whats going on, then showing them in the order they were aired on TV. Because i know for a lot of ppl, just being thrown into episode 1 (00) sorta got them confused and im sure it turned some ppl off, but yet the TV aired order actually makes it much more interesting and makes ppl eager to watch the next episode and try and fill in the gaps.

I know that when i watched it in chronilogical order, i was actually sorta bored with some of the episodes, but when i watched it how they aired it on TV, it was a lot more interesting and attention grabbing.

Just my 2 cents though.

[Shinkirou]

I watched episode 0 first and watched the rest in chronological order. I watched 0 because I thought that it was in the chronological order (just that it was going to have flashbacks). I watched the episodes in chronological order later (when I learned that they were all shuffled) since I like animes that are easy to understand.

However, I would recommend watching it in airing order since it leaves you with a "Ooooh, so that's what happened!" feeling of surprise which isn't bad. Also, the character development and the ending is better that way.

[Kittie Rose]

I am totally confused. What is with the Tarantino'd order? I was enjoying the anime a lot at first, but the Baseball episode just confused the hell out of me. Why did they mess up the order like that?

:/

[Vexx]

You should read the threads... part of it was just artistic. Kind of like watching a Twilight Zone episode or reading Slaughterhouse Five (Vonnegut).
The time-out-of-sequence imitates the disorientation Kyon feels in this situation.
The other reasons are more mundane.... organizing the events that way leads up to a climax that lesser beings can handle (oooh, monsters! and Kissing! ... the world is returned!).
I found the Kyon order very satisfying for a first view... but when I rewatch it I usually follow the chronological order because I find the "daily life" and that last "rain" episode very pleasant to end out on.

[Kittie Rose]

I kind of get what they're trying to do now.

The problem is, this is heavily biased since almost all of you are going to be watching it on DVD or downloaded eps.

There is a phenomenon with comics right now called "Writing for Trades", which basically means that the writers pay little regard as to how a comic will read on a monthly basis, and only to how it will read collected in a Trade Paperback/Graphic Novel form.

I think this is the same thing, except it's "Directing for DVDs" instead of writing for trades.

The "freakiness" of the messed up order only has effect when you watch them close together, like I'm trying to finish the whole series today, maybe, if I can. If I was watching it with a week between them, it would just be irritating and confusing that I have to wait an indefinite amount of time for the actual conclusion to one storyline.

I think it would have been better if it were aired in Chronological order, and stored on DVD in the messed up order.

[2H-Dragon]

Well I tried watching this in the airing order which was just weird. I quickly changed to the chronological order. Honestly I wouldn't, want to watch it any other way. While the ending may be an anti-climax. It was still a nice and clean ending. The plot is weird enough so just watching it normal makes you enjoy the fun stuff and your not wasting your time think who the fuck is that guy or wtf is happening. Another gripe is probably it's to get into, cause its so random.

The only good thing by watching by the messed up order is probably that you have a good reason to watch everything again. o_O

[Kittie Rose]

I get the feeling Episode 9 is just there to annoy people who try to watch it in Chronological order. It's a pretty pointless episode and pretty much nothing happens in it.

[mezrabad]

I've just gotten the first two US DVD's today and was bummed to find that it was in "Yuki" order. The baseball episode is at the end of DVD 2 and starts off with narration by Kyon indicating that something had happened to the world (resembling leg cramps). Of course, because tMoHS I through VI was just shown, the viewer knows to what he is refering. I much preferred the baseball episode aired after tMoHS II because it left the viewer in some suspense regarding what the heck did Kyon mean and what was it that Yuki was going to reveal about being an alien in the previous episode, etc. etc.

It also bothers me that the dialogue between Kyon and Haruhi for the previews is just "lost" ... like tears in the rain...

Anyway, I'm very disappointed they chose to do it this way, but it is probably true that businesses lose less money by not overestimating the intelligence of their potential audience. If the companies producing/licensing the series found that their viewers had been confused by the airing order then it makes sense to change it for the DVD. I just wish people, in general, were a little smarter...not the first time, either. :( I'm just glad I saved the fansubbed eps.

[KholdStare]

I'm going to go with chronological order just because I'm a tricky person. I don't think I could've understood all the episode or even finish them if I'm somewhat confused with an anime. Watching it in chronological order doesn't make it suck badly guys, and that's my point. If you're patient to watch and connect things, then do it in the original order, but watching it in chronological order won't screw anything up, promise.

In conclusion I'd say if you're new to anime (in which this anime would be really bad for you to start out with), then watch it in chronological order but if not, just watch it as the way it was aired. For me it's really similar to Haibane Renmei, and I love that anime, so I'd probably enjoyed it in the order it was aired.

[Raykun]

well Chronological order is a wat ill choose to watch but 14 is a way better ending

[mezrabad]

In conclusion I'd say if you're new to anime (in which this anime would be really bad for you to start out with) then watch it in chronological order but if not, just watch it as the way it was aired.

You're absolutely right about that! Anyone new to anime watching this for the first time should probably do so in chronological order (maybe even save episode 00 for 11). My wife, for instance, would also agree with this. She's not an anime fan, but I just *had* to show her tMoHS. She, too, was confused by the airing order, despite her being pretty smart. Some people just don't think non-linearly, I guess. (I remember having to explain "Yesterday's Enterprise" from ST:TNG season 3 to her more than a few times, too, so, there ya go . . .)

Maybe they'll release an extra-special DVD collector's edition with the episodes in the airing order.

I also wanted to note that I said in my last post that I was sad about losing the "previews" from the TV airings because the DVD releases have the eps in chronological order and the previews narrated by Yuki. (with the exception of episode 00, of course). I just discovered the original TV previews in the DVD extras section! So, um, "yokata" and all that.

Order aside, I must say I was pretty happy with the voices chosen for all of the characters in the english dub. It sounds almost as if the original japanese voice actors were taught how to speak english perfectly and then re-cast as the english voice actors.

For me it's really similar to Haibane Renmei, and I love that anime, so I'd probably enjoyed it in the order it was aired.

!!!!! Hey, are you saying Habenai Renmai was aired in a different order from the DVD release???? Guess I need to do some research. I enjoyed that in the DVD order just fine, but I'd be very curious to watch it in the original air order just to see how they told the story then.

As much as I enjoyed Haruhi in the aired order, I am suddenly reminded that the series "Firefly" was originally aired in the "wrong" order (per Joss Wedon) and am glad I saw it first on DVDs in the "right" order (per Joss Wedon). It's quite possible that many people will feel the same way about Haruhi.

[Agent86]

As much as I enjoyed Haruhi in the aired order, I am suddenly reminded that the series "Firefly" was originally aired in the "wrong" order (per Joss Wedon) and am glad I saw it first on DVDs in the "right" order (per Joss Wedon). It's quite possible that many people will feel the same way about Haruhi.It's possible. But remember that "Firefly" was created to be aired in the right order and it was the idiots executives at the network that decided to air it the way they did. Haruhi, on the other hand, aired in "Kyon" order as was the intention of KyoAni and Tanigawa.

[Raykun]

but but haruhi's order makes it easier to understand but kyon's order has a better ending ^^

[KholdStare]

For me it's really similar to Haibane Renmei, and I love that anime, so I'd probably enjoyed it in the order it was aired.
!!!!! Hey, are you saying Habenai Renmai was aired in a different order from the DVD release???? Guess I need to do some research. I enjoyed that in the DVD order just fine, but I'd be very curious to watch it in the original air order just to see how they told the story then.

Nope, I was simply referring to the fact that everything clicked together at the end of Haibane Renmei for me, and I would assume it would be so for SHnY if I watched the 6th episode last.

[Sun Shine]

Well I tried watching this in the airing order which was just weird. I quickly changed to the chronological order. Honestly I wouldn't, want to watch it any other way. While the ending may be an anti-climax. It was still a nice and clean ending. The plot is weird enough so just watching it normal makes you enjoy the fun stuff and your not wasting your time think who the fuck is that guy or wtf is happening. Another gripe is probably it's to get into, cause its so random.

The only good thing by watching by the messed up order is probably that you have a good reason to watch everything again. o_O

#2 I completely agree. No point me writing whats already been written.

[zoozoc]

sadly, even the the messed up order pwns face, most ppl are too impatient to be able to deal with it, and because i want haruhi to do as well as it can (especially in the us, its doing fine in japan), i will have to vote for the chronological order.

[Raykun]

well any is fine cept i hope the main arc is in order thats all

[neutralizer]

Honestly, I think the order that the TV broadcasted it was the still the best only because the ending had a great impact. Even if it was confusing, once you finish everything or rewatch it again, everything makes sense. You start noticing little things that tie everything together.

[changeup]

For first-time viewers: TV series order

(just need to inform them not to give up before finishing the whole first episode~~~although for me, I loved this series five minutes into the first episode, upon hearing all Kyon's tsukkomi)

For veteran viewers, random order is fine. Each episode is enjoyable as its own.

I do not like the DVD order aka chronological order, although the last episode of this order "some day in the rain" may be the prelude of the upcoming 2nd season. Therefore if you want to watch the two seasons together in the future, this order may be prefered

[Raptor73]

This series should be watched in its original order for first time viewers, since the major climax of the series occurs in the middle in chronological order, which would take away some of the impact. Once season 2 is released, I would recommend chronological order for watching since episode 14 will no longer be the last episode overall and therefore it will cease to be the climax. This is assuming though that season two is made chronologically, if the producers decide once again to use a random order then it may be a better idea to watch it in its original airing order. I personally prefer the original order.

I recommend though for anyone who is easily confused or does not like complete and utter randomness to skip straight to episode 2 of the series and leave out the first episode until later, since it really doesn't matter at what point episode 1 is watched, the amount of sense it makes doesn't change much as you watch the series.

[Fweakin]

Like others, I recommend watching the series in airing order to begin with and then following it up watching in chronological order. Every time I've rewatched, I've watched chronologically so I could see the subtle points that completely pass you by when aired outside the linear timeline.

[therationalpi]

There are two ways to see the airing order, really.

At its best, the airing order creates suspense, mystery, and allows the series to end in a climactic way, by spreading around the exposition and lengthening the most important story-line. There's plenty of suspense built by splitting up Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II and III, because it's quite a cliffhanger to leave Kyon just sitting across the table with Yuki. There's mystery created in several ways, like exposing the audience to characters that haven't been introduced to, like Itsuki in Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya. Similarly, the nature of Haruhi is obfuscated by things like Lone Island Syndrome II, where we find out that entire situation was a setup, which make us question Itsuki's theory which we learned of just a few episodes earlier. It goes without saying that there is some mystery created by seeing Yuki's power in BoredomoHS before it is fully explained. Finally, the series can either end in a high intensity way, or a low intensity way. In my opinion, which of those is preferable is a matter of artistic taste. Personally, I feel that the high intensity ending has a bigger impact, and spreading the most important story around helps to keep the audience through to the end. More importantly, I think that MoHS VI has more impact the more you know about the world.

At its worst, however, the airing order confuses the audience, artificially manufactures suspense and mystery, and loses the audience's interest before the last episode runs. Pick up any fiction book that you've never read before, and without looking at the dust cover, flip to a random page in the middle of the book. If you start reading there, you will indeed find a story that is mysterious, but very confusing. Who/What/Where/When/Why questions may not even be answered until you go back in the book and find the answers yourself. With that in mind, emulating that experience as a story telling device is very similar to what MoHS does. It artificially creates mystery by simply leaving the audience in the dark about information they really should know already. Moreover, cliffhanger situations are pretty cheesy. As such, the suspense is manufactured, and comes at the expense of the audience. Finally, if you look at MofHS I-VI as being the meat of the show, then it's very easy to lose the audience before the last episode is seen. If they are shown as a group, it makes for a concise and well told story. Told apart, however, there's a distinct possibility that the audience will forget what happened in just the last portion of the show. I am, of course, assuming here that the audience isn't watching all in one sitting. As such, combined with all the other difficulties of watching an out of sequence show, the audience may just walk away from the series without a second thought.

It's hard for me to make a decision either way. I watched it in Kyon's order first, but I did so all in two days. That really lessened the confusion and heightened the impact of the out of order viewing. Afterwards, I went back and watched it in Haruhi's order. I caught a lot of new stuff, and really enjoyed that way too. In truth, I love "Someday in the Rain" as a final episode. Slow endings really work well for me. Watching "Someday in the Rain" last really gives a feeling of nostalgia, and is a good open ending. "Life goes on as it always does," the episode says to me, "but that's not to say that nothing happens."

[Kyero Fox]

I hate the idea of watching any anime in any other Order than it was supose to be ...I voted.. duh well guess < _ >

[fuzzles]

I bought the DVD's and they came in chronological order how furious did that make me, i had no idea about the airing order or any of the other stuff, i'm pretty pissed about that darn you bandai! oh and to top it off I can't find the 4th volume so i have no freaking clue what happens after the murder mystery

[Misunne]

The first time I watched this anime, I watched it in a random order cause I got kinda confusing about which order I should have watched it. I ended up with watching the last episode before the episode before the last one. >.<
In my option, watching the chronological episodes first, and then watch the others.

[Shizzon]

when i first watched the series, i watched it in Kyon order (aired on tv order) and then when i was bored i went back and watched it in the order that Haruhi said in the previews and i have to say that Kyon's made better use of the 14 episodes. Haruhi's order finished the story after the first seven episodes and it made the rest seem like fillers.

[Sol Falling]

I voted chronological, but in truth my stance is to watch it in aired order first, and then watch it chronologically 5 bazillion more times.

I all honesty, I think being unable to appreciate both orders reflects negatively on one's attention span.

The weakness of the aired order is, of course, the confusion generated by not having a story laid out in front of you. People may get frustrated and stop watching before they get to the "best" parts.

The "weakness" of the chronological order is that plotwise, this order is top-heavy. All the action happens in the first 6 episodes, and people don't have the attention spans to sit through the rest of the show.

Well? In fact, for plot, Haruhi is a top-heavy series in general. The thing that Haruhi does really well is produce compelling characters (hidden under a heavily metafictional surface). The series is about character development, and about the only way you'll get to see any of that in the anime is by watching it in chronological order.

The aired order is a mindfuck and a half, but you can't really be confused after you've seen the whole thing once, can you? The aired order enhances the viewing experience by playing with the tension of keeping key information away from you, but that's the only effect it has. All the humour is still there in the chronological order, and if you say that the rest of the episodes other than Yuutsu I-VI are filler and you wouldn't have the motivation to watch them chronologically, well, you obviously only care about those six episodes so why don't you just not watch the others at all?

So I mean yeah, the aired order is best for a first time viewing, 'cause the tricks it plays with your mind while you find out about this exhilirating new world are beautiful. But that's a one time thing. 'Cause that's not even what the story is about at all. After you learn about the unlimited possibilities at the fingertips of these characters, you come to love them for the way they act within the boundaries imposed by those possibilities. The anachronology is a gimmick; well executed, to be sure, but not where the real value lies.

'Course, this means I have even less tolerance for people who watch it in chronological order in the first place and then call the last episode boring.

Just one final thing. Don't call that final episode a "transition" episode. 'Cause guess what, it'll possibly be later chronologically than the entirety of the second season as well--at the very least it'll be later than half of it. It wasn't just a throwaway filler or something "thrown in to piss off people trying to watch it chronologically"--it was specially written for the anime by the series' creator, and as such is inherently a better ending for the anime than Yuutsu VI.

[W-General]

I vote for chronological too.

I understand the gimmick of watching it in broadcast order, but that's because they assume you will buy the DVDs and watch them again in chronological order.

How do you tell someone who does not know at all what to expect, what episode order to show it in? Take the baseball episode for example: in the broadcast episode, Koizumi is suddenly introduced without any background what-so-ever, you do not know what Nagato's abilities are and you are clueless as to why all the strange phenomenon is happening. And you do not know why the characters are so eager to please Haruhi (because they don't know about the sealed space business)

Level of appreciation -100.

Broadcast order works only because you then will go back and watch them in chronological order and will find out small things that make you laugh.

But if I were to find a friend who I assume have not heard of Haruhi ever (they exist - in my Anime club), and I was to show them Haruhi, for their sake, I would show it in a modified broadcast order - only because Someday In the Rain is quite an anti-climatic episode and it is of my faith that series should end with a big climax.

I might show everything in Chronological order, except I'd put Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi VI until last, or Live Alive until last.

[westbluef]

I go for Broadcast order

Chronologically you will be able to appreciate Someday in the Rain
but in broadcast you will be able to appreciate The melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

[Takuto19]

I watched them in Chronological order first, proboly why i think Someday in the Rain is one of my fav episodes heh. But for someone starting out i recommend Broadcast order, you might not get some joke but when you go back and re-watch the series you'll get all the jokes.

[kimchipride]

Watch it in T.V. order please. I think one of the reasons I loved the anime was because of the shuffle. You don't know what's going on (assuming you don't read Suzumiya) and the last episode answers all the questions. I would've been really dissapointed if the Rain episode was premiered last. I wouldn't have such a lasting appeal as I do now. The ending of the 14th episode made me feel really sad. I wanted more than 14 eps so badly.

[Jeiku]

I have to say that I immensely preferred watching the anime chronologically. I think the main advantage the broadcast version has is that "Melancholy Part VI" feels more like a proper conclusion than "Someday in the Rain" (even though I find the latter episode to still be nice and soothing regardless). But the scrambled order felt more like a gimmick than anything else, one that I could do with or without. Even though all of the main action happens in the Melancholy arc, it doesn't get any less entertaining from "Boredom" anyways.

So really, I would recommend the chronological order. The broadcast order usually requires repeated viewings in order to catch everything you've missed.

[Curulan]

At a friend's recommendation, I just finished watching the first six chronological episodes. I do feel a bit cheated by doing this, but...!

Taken as they are, the "Melancholy" arc is a powerful series on its own. However, #6 really does feel like a conclusion (since it was written to be the series conclusion), and thus there seems to be little point in watching the rest after that.

And that is why I feel cheated by it. I am now starting over watching the original broadcast order.

[CrowKenobi]

At a friend's recommendation, I just finished watching the first six chronological episodes. I do feel a bit cheated by doing this, but...!

Taken as they are, the "Melancholy" arc is a powerful series on its own. However, #6 really does feel like a conclusion (since it was written to be the series conclusion), and thus there seems to be little point in watching the rest after that.

And that is why I feel cheated by it. I am now starting over watching the original broadcast order.Actually it was originally written to be the conclusion of the first Haruhi novel, thus that is why it feels like a conclusion. :D

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[Curulan]

Yes, I knew that. I was originally going to include that in my post, but did not. The meaning of my post was that it was the actual final episode of the anime series, as well.

[Xzero]

I vote for TV order ´cause I belive that this is something that makes this anime different and is´tn hard the chronologically watching in this mode, all the thing is to pay attention to the details....

and I have a question what is that of the Ep 0??? never heard about it

[XsillyskittlesX]

I vote for TV order ´cause I belive that this is something that makes this anime different and is´tn hard the chronologically watching in this mode, all the thing is to pay attention to the details....

and I have a question what is that of the Ep 0??? never heard about it

I think the Ep 0 is referring to Mikuru Asahina's Adventure Episode 00 which is chronologically the 11th episode.

Hmm.. for me i think watching it in broadcast order allows you to better enjoy the series in its whole. Then you should rewatch it in Chronological order to understand the little things you couldn't understand the first time around

[Sirth]

I'll take what I got on the DVDs. The first time through, it really didn't stand out. I couldn't understand too well, and I swear I did get lost one time. It actually made me go, "It was awesome, but meh," and moved on, thinking it was just some popular production.

When I decided to get the DVDs, THAT was when I became a fan. Watching it on the DVDs, I understood it so much better. Despite the "anti-climatic" nature of Someday in the Rain, I think it did something different too: It ended the series in a calm manner, rather than the traditional "OH WOW BIG FINISH YAY!" Both me and my sister loved it, and she didn't even see the original order. I actually would just recommend that way.

Have to agree on the General. Broadcast order does just feel like a gimmick. I can see why it was done. The last of the "Melancholy" episodes was that traditional, giant climatic moment. So I'll also agree on the idea of watching it chronologically, but saving that one for last.

[Jintor]

Broadcast order, and then Chronological order.

[Miko Miko]

i wached it in chronological order (staring with ep 2)

But im still watching it :]

[Dxon]

Yeah.. Well. Can somebody give me a PROPER list of the videos in the GOOD order. :)

I mean whenever I want to watch I dont know with which episode to start. Plus the quality sucks.....

But just give me a list of the videos with a link please. ^^

[tripperazn]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Melancholy_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes

Refer to episode list.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Broadcast order, and then Chronological order.

I agree.

Makes a lot more sense that way.

[The Chaos]

As every fan of the show knows, there are different orders in which it can be watched. The episodes aired in an order determinded by Haruhi, but during each promo, Kyon makes it clear that the chronological order is quite different. In what order would you choose to rewatch this show? Or if you've already rewatched it, what order do you recommend?

1. Mikuru Asahina's Adventure Episode 00
Chronologically, this is the 11th episode.
2. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya I
Chronologically, this is the 1st episode
3. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II
Chronologically, this is the 2nd episode
4. The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya
Chronologically, this is the 7th episode
5. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya III
Chronologically, this is the 3rd episode
6. Remote Island Syndrome (Part 1)
Chronologically, this is the 9th episode
7. Mysterique Sign
Chronologically, this is the 8th episode
8. Remote Island Syndrome (Part 2)
Chronologically, this is the 10th episode
9. Someday In The Rain
Chronologically, this is the 14th episode
10. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya IV
Chronologically, this is the 4th episode
11. The Day Of Sagittarius
Chronologically, this is the 13th episode
12. Live Alive
Chronologically, this is the 12th episode
13. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya V
Chronologically, this is the 5th episode
14. The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya VI
Chronologically, this is the 6th episode
So, to watch it in chronologial order, you'd have to watch the episodes in this order:
2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 1, 12, 11, 9.

Then there is a third option. You can watch Episode 0 first as a prologue. This can work since it is an off-topic teaser which only incidently introduces us to the show. Then watch every other episode in Kyon's order:
1, 2, 3, 5, 10, 13, 14, 4, 7, 6, 8, 12, 11, 9.

Or maybe you'd prefer to watch the show in a random order each time, guided only by fate and luck. That way you might somehow notice a secret of Haruhism that would be hidden by blindly sticking to a predetermined order. Strike down all limits on our perceptions that chain us to the mundane world!

Once you vote, please tell me why you prefer that choice!

Edit by Mod (xris):
It seems NoSanninWa wasn't wearing the recommended tin-foil hat when creating this thread and poll, thus resulting in a number of errors. I hope they have mostly been corrected and that the poll is no longer confusing as to which order is which.

In addition, I would also suggest that the following are points of discussion when you post your own opinions.

1) A recommendation to first time viewers as to which order they should watch?
2) A personal preference as to how you would have preferred to watch the show?
3) A personal preference as to how you intend to rewatch the show?
4) Which order you prefer in general?

By all means, don't limit yourself to the above, feel free do discuss any other topic relevant to the subject at hand.

Dxon You Should Read This...

[Dxon]

Has anyone actually ANY idea why they have different orders?????

[Kaisos Erranon]

Has anyone actually ANY idea why they have different orders?????

To create an ending with an actual climax... that's why it was done in broadcast order.

Remember, it was adapted from a still-running series of novels... giving it a proper ending is difficult, and as the ending to Volume 1 feels most like an ending...

[hiroto]

I watched in chronological order, just what I thought would be best. For me it made the most sense this way. Besides, I watch everything in the normal order so I thought, this one too.

[Jintor]

If it were't for the fact that the first novel is in chronological order, I'd have said that the weird order was to recreate the sort of WHAM! episode feel of the novels. Except the Novels don't have a WHAM! episode feel to them... : /

[Sol Falling]

achronological order was fun the first time around, just 'cause it seemed completely random and you had no idea what was going on. Trying to guess what was up was fairly engaging.

But as I've said before, that effect only lasts as long as the first watch through, and in terms of character development, the chronological order is much more satisfying. So although I won't say that the achronological order is a bad thing, I will say that the chronological order is the only proper way to watch the series (assuming you're willing to give it more than one run through).

[Autumn Demon]

the first time i saw it i saw it in aired order. when i rewatched it i did the chronological order.

i found the aired order to be better because that way the best episodes are generally at the end of the show, while the chronological order has boring episodes toward the end.

[Ketro]

I liked the original broadcast order, mainly because w/ the chronological order, the ending doesnt seem as good.

[sosbrigademember]

yes, 00 then chronological order. Though the first time I ever watched Haruhi, I watched it from volume 1-4 in regular order.

[V33D12AG0N]

I guess it'll be best to watch it twice:

the first time is to get the impression, so you must watch it according to the TV series which gives more impressions in the last episode.

The second time is to know the storyline, so you must watch it chronologically.

By doing this, we can get both the impression and the storyline completely :D

[Furyofthewolves]

Has anyone actually ANY idea why they have different orders?????

Because Haruhi was the Ultra Director of the anime! And as Kaisos said, it gives a climax.

I watched it all as aired minus episode 0. I kinda like how they did it, as I didn't need to rewatch it to get the plot. Then again, I'm the kinda guy who is able to remember plotlines well... so maybe it was just me.

[CinemaZebra]

If you haven't seen the show yet, I'd definitely reccomend watching it in chronological order. But if you have and you're watching it again for the English or Japanese dub (depending upon which dub you watched the first time) I'd recommend watching it in the order aired on TV. :)

[Toomz]

Ahhh, the great debate. "How does one watch this series?" someone might ask, and thus I would have close to no answer. I started out watching it in broadcast, but then inadvertently switched to chronological after Ep.4 (broadcast). So to say the least, my opinion is a bit skewed.

Anyway, looking back on it, I wish I would have just stuck with broadcast order the first time around. Even if it's a gimmick, it's clever, and interesting for a first view. And I have to agree that it just spreads out the story better, seeing as how in chronological order the main story finishes early on with the first six episodes.

I'm thinking about testing this anime on an audience of people who have never seen it before, to see their reactions. But anyway, the order isn't that big of a deal. Just sit down, watch it, and enjoy!

[dkellis]

I've had several comments on the different episode orders from people who watch it for the first time (on DVD). It's mainly from recommending the anime on a non-anime forum.

Interestingly, there's about an equal proportion of those who watched it in chronological order and those who chose broadcast order. There's also a roughly equal portion from both sides who wished that they watched it the other way.

The reasons have been brought up before: chronological order feels like lots of plot followed by lots of filler, while broadcast order is too confusing to keep track of.

I suspect, without proof, that if one watches the series all in one go, or at least plenty of episodes at once, then it's best to watch it in broadcast order: the plot points will remain fresh in one's mind, the way we kept talking about it when the series was first being aired and fansubbed. If one watches it a bit at a time, maybe one episode every week or more, though, then chronological order might be much better.

This is anecdotal evidence only, though. Please don't take it as absolute statistics.

[Roger Rambo]

Original broadcast. The plot seems to drag less.

[Bennyswan]

Broadcast that's for sure!

The ending for the chronicle order was to plain for me. :(

[Amray]

I have seen it in both orders, but could someone please enlighten me as to which order is the proper one? I am an extreme Haruhi fan but I just did not know which way the episodes should have been officially shown.

Am I right in assuming that the 'proper' final episode is the one in which Haruhi and Kyon are trapped in an enclosed space in school and he then kisses her to get out? Because that was the order in which I first viewed them in and liked. Although I will say that I did like the other order too as the ending seemed a little bit peaceful and relaxing for a final session. Nontheless, what I am assuming is the correct order made more sense.

[Roger Rambo]

I have seen it in both orders, but could someone please enlighten me as to which order is the proper one? I am an extreme Haruhi fan but I just did not know which way the episodes should have been officially shown.

Am I right in assuming that the 'proper' final episode is the one in which Haruhi and Kyon are trapped in an enclosed space in school and he then kisses her to get out? Because that was the order in which I first viewed them in and liked. Although I will say that I did like the other order too as the ending seemed a little bit peaceful and relaxing for a final session. Nontheless, what I am assuming is the correct order made more sense.
That is the original broadcast order. I believe someone has a chronological order somewhere...

[Amray]

Yes, I looked it up just after I posted that actually. I apologize. ^_^

Their is a "Broadcast Order", a "Chronological Order", and a "DVD Order".
I have seen it in the chronological order and the DVD order, which is obvious as I have the DVD set of the series. I must say that I quite liked the DVD order as they made the "Someday in the Rain" episode last, which made a calm and quite nice impact on how the series ended as not a lot went on in that episode. Still a great session though. Just my opinion.

[Aerii]

I watched it in chronological order. I don't regret it, because I hate not knowing things. Can't stand it. It would've got in the way of my enjoyment, and so I have a feeling I would've not liked the show in broadcast order. But that's just me.

[Kakisho]

I say random order for rewatching, as aired on TV for first time. The confusion and the fact that it's not chronological adds to the anime which gives excitment and a feeling of a "what just happened????" then you go on to see and say "ohhhhhh." Though, as long as episode 14 is last, watching them randomly is even more exicting and makes even less sense, just make sure you didn't JUST finish the anime or else it'll be relatively boring.

[Shadow Kira01]

Watching Episode 0 made me wanted to stop watching midway. However, the series was actually pretty good.

[ShimatheKat]

Has anyone actually ANY idea why they have different orders?????

That's how Haruhi milks the cash cow. Broadcast it once and make it random. Then get people to buy the discs to rewatch the series in proper order.

[Roger Rambo]

I wish the DVD's showed it in the original broadcast order.

Chronologically, the pacings all off.

[ShimatheKat]

I wish the DVD's showed it in the original broadcast order.

Chronologically, the pacings all off.

Aha. Haruhi does this for you to go crack your brain. Though there's the Net.

[Kaisos Erranon]

The special edition DVDs had it in original broadcast order.

Too bad both the dub and the subtitles suck.

[Roger Rambo]

The special edition DVDs had it in original broadcast order.

Too bad both the dub and the subtitles suck.
I didn't find the subtitles that bad, and some of the Dub work was actually pretty good.

I do think they should have gotten someone else for Haruhi though.

[Kaisos Erranon]

"Future men"...?

Especially when the dub correctly used "time travelers"?

Yeah no.

[Saki_chan]

I have mixed feelings about the ordering of Haruhi. On the one hand, watching it in broadcast order is just flat-out confusing. On the other, watching it chronologically takes out a lot of the interest and makes it completely anticlimactic. Seriously, I could barely bring myself to watch all of the last chronological episode. But either way, I think Episode 0 should be aired first, because it's what first got me interested in the show, and it's still my favorite episode.

[kyon.haruhi.suzumiya]

lol before the thread is deleted:

The Airing order is actually much more interesting, in many ways better than the chronological order, especially for us who watched it every week.

This creates a suspense and longing to look forward to the future episodes. It batters us with questions from the start and then solves them all at once, giving us a huge sense of satisfaction.

This is the power of the random episode order.

It was a great experience and those who got it couldn't agree more that it was genius for kyoani to do this.

Agreed. Haruhi wants you to watch it that way. Just follow law (of Haruhi).

[Thomasunde]

I seriously loved the show after the first tv aired show. I mean, I thought it was clever how they made it look like a totally random show for about 20 minutes and then.... The aspect ratio changed and I was like :O
What's happened? :P
Pretty cool stuff. :D

[Appurukami]

I watched episode 0 and then the rest chronologically.
Probably not the best idea, as episode 0 can really throw you off if you dont know what its all about.

[C.A.]

Well, the best is to watch both the airing and chronological orders.

Watching the show once is not enough to get one to understand it well.

But its a little pity if one didn't watch their first view through in the airing order.

[Roger Rambo]

I watched it's original order on youtube. I found it superior to the chronological order.

[C.A.]

Its also a pity to not watch in higher resolution because you'll miss out subtle awesome details in the foreground and background. And stuff like Yuki tilting her head or eyes moving by a few pixels for approval.

[Roger Rambo]

That's why I got the DVD's.

To bad those come in chronological order.

[KimmyChan]

I'd say that this series should be watched "Ep 0" first, then Chronological order :)

[Solachinx]

First time: Broadcast Order
Second time: Chronological Order
Subsequent Sittings: Point and Shoot

[Solafighter]

I was always wondering. Why did they air in this weird order?

Because Haruhi wanted it that way? ;)

[C.A.]

It aired that what because it creates a spectacular outcome. It was unique and clever, it creates a real climax towards the end. If it aired chronologically, the climax will be at episode 6 and everything else afterwards would have no relevance or build up.

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

Plus it's a unique way of doing things.

On an unrelated note, does anyone else think that "The Order of Haruhi Suzumiya" sounds like the name of a cult? :heh:

[Ithekro]

On an unrelated note, does anyone else think that "The Order of Haruhi Suzumiya" sounds like the name of a cult? :heh:

It isn't?

:uhoh:

[Full Metal Jackass]

so my brother mentions this show to me the other day and i am in the process of obtaining it, but after reading this thread i am a bit confused. could someone tell me what order the eps aired on tv with the titles and what would be the chronological order thanks

[C.A.]

so my brother mentions this show to me the other day and i am in the process of obtaining it, but after reading this thread i am a bit confused. could someone tell me what order the eps aired on tv with the titles and what would be the chronological order thanksThe first post of this thread already explained everything, but you can just watch it in whatever order its arranged in the medium you're getting.

But overall as you can see, most of us would suggest that viewing it in the airing order and then watching it again in chronological order will produce the best results.

[RJ TAYLER]

Thread title would make for a great light novel/episode title. btw I now watch the series in a random order, whichever episode take my fancy I put on.

[Vexx]

I know I said this pages ago.... but my preferred method for a "new cult member" is to show it to them in "aired order" first... then they watch it in chronological Kyon order after snacks. The air of Kyon-disorientation of the broadcast order was great for putting the viewer in Kyon's "shoes of confusion".

[OkamiNoKaze]

How about modified aired order, where the "fillers"are in chronological order

You'd have

Mikuru 00
then Melancholy 1 and 2
"Boredom"
Melancholy 3
Mysteresque Sign
Remote Island Syndrom 1 and 2
One day in the rain
Melancholy 4
Live Alive
Day of Sagittarius III
Melancholy 5 and 6

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

The "filler" stuff isn't in chronological order there... "Mikuru 00" takes place almost immediately prior to "Live Alive," and "One day in the rain" is after Day of Sagittarius.

[OkamiNoKaze]

I guess I didn't explain that correctly it's mostly just a modified aired order but Mysteresque Sign and Lonely Island one are switched Chronologically, and Live alive and DoSIII are switched Chronologically.

[Jiggy]

Broadcast order all the way. Before I say anything in detail, I should mention that I didn't start watching the fansubs until Live A Live had already aired and that I knew in advance about the abilities of Haruhi, Yuki, Itsuki, and Mikuru. This means that any feelings of confusion were lost on me and that I didn't have to wait weeks between episodes, which probably influenced my opinion in some way or other.

Anyway, here are the main points on why I prefer broadcast order even when rewatching:


Melancholy VI as an individual episode:

I don't like Kyon at all, while Haruhi is one of my favorite characters ever and one I very much sympathize with. So if I had just been watching a straight run of the Melancholy line then I'm pretty sure I would have been highly annoyed by the ending of this episode. I don't like seeing Kyon pretty much hit the cancel button on Haruhi's hopes, because I think she deserves to have her wishes more than him--much more, because she's a harder worker, a more determined soul, and most of all someone who's open and bold with her thoughts instead of consciously dishonest.

Melancholy VI worked out for me as a great episode only because I knew what kind of future was being put at risk--Live A Live and Boredom and other cool events that wouldn't have been seen yet in chronological order--and because I knew that even for Haruhi herself it wouldn't be so bad.


Lone Island Syndrome and Mysterique Sign:

These were my three least favorite episodes no matter what order they're watched in, but what kept me going through them in broadcast order (though I disliked them even on my first watch) was the strong plot of Melancholy I-III hanging around unresolved, and my thoughts that somewhere in these three episodes there might be more foreshadowing of what was coming. There wasn't, but that's not the point--they were salvaged for me just because of the hope that there might have been, which is lost if Melancholy VI is known beforehand. They're basically filler all the way, but I didn't find them entertaining filler like Day of Sagittarius or especially Boredom.


Live A Live, Someday in the Rain, and Melancholy VI as an ending:

Live A Live would have been the strongest of all possible season closer to me, because the singing carries the same dynamic flair of Melancholy VI and the ending was something I found much sweeter and more natural to Haruhi than Someday in the Rain. But with Live A Live itself not being the series finale, Melancholy VI is the only other one I could accept as something to follow it two episodes later. Not because of the high stakes, necessarily, but more because it sets up a future while Someday tries to get rid of loose ends. I like endings that are also beginnings, giving the characters something ahead of them which the viewer won't see--and whatever Someday might be, it's not really that.




The second season/batch of episodes/whatever Kadokawa wants to call it will muddy all of this up, of course... But for the first fourteen episodes created, this is the only way to me. It's always what I recommend to people.

[ijuinkun]

I don't like seeing Kyon pretty much hit the cancel button on Haruhi's hopes, because I think she deserves to have her wishes more than him--much more, because she's a harder worker, a more determined soul, and most of all someone who's open and bold with her thoughts instead of consciously dishonest.
.

So it's all right for an entire world with at least six billion souls to cease to exist at her pleasure? I'm sorry, but saving billions of people takes moral priority over anything that one person could desire, unless you want to elevate Haruhi to a moral level comparable to the Abrahamic God.

[Kaisos Erranon]

So it's all right for an entire world with at least six billion souls to cease to exist at her pleasure? I'm sorry, but saving billions of people takes moral priority over anything that one person could desire, unless you want to elevate Haruhi to a moral level comparable to the Abrahamic God.

Alternate Character Interpretation at its best, eh?

I, for one, prefer Kyon as a character.

[Jintor]

I don't see how you can't like Kyon.

He's so... normal.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I don't see how you can't like Kyon.

He's so... normal.

The people who don't like Kyon, I notice, tend to be the ones who perceive Haruhi as being in the right.

Which she isn't, because, you know, she's the major antagonist, plot-wise, for like the first half the novels.

[Jintor]

She is a jerk.

I mean, I like her, too, but you can't deny that she's a huge jerk.

[Kaisos Erranon]

I mean, I like her, too, but you can't deny that she's a huge jerk.

Of course not. Although, Kyon is rather an ass too, so it evens out.

[CrowKenobi]

The people who don't like Kyon, I notice, tend to be the ones who perceive Haruhi as being in the right.Which is ironic when you consider that all we know of Haruhi is through Kyon's viewpoint. :heh:

:cool:

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

The people who don't like Kyon, I notice, tend to be the ones who perceive Haruhi as being in the right.

Funny, I didn't realize I thought that way. Thanks for letting me know that. :p

[Jintor]

Of course not. Although, Kyon is rather an ass too, so it evens out.

He's more lazy than he is an ass, but he is a bit of an ass, yeah...

[Kaisos Erranon]

Funny, I didn't realize I thought that way. Thanks for letting me know that. :p

"Tend to". "Tend to."

[Kid Ying]

Kyon is an ass, but that's what is really awesome. A main character who is lazy, an ass and likes to find faults at everything? Give this guy a fucking medal.

And Haruhi? I think someone need to shoot her down like a rabid animal. :heh: Okay, not that much, but she's very annoying. But maybe because i like Kyon too much.

[Ithekro]

The naming/ordering is really messing people up right now. Especially those that didn't know (or care to know) that the "rerun" has been going for eight weeks now, and thus BLR (airing this week) has been called many things (Haruhi Episode 15, Season Two Episode 1, and Haruhi 2009 Episode 8)

Here the order has been decided to be Chronological Haruhi 2009 with both "Season 1 2006" and "Season 2" together as one union.

[margafred]

From http://dec.2chan.net/24/res/3664791.htm,i think this should be the real chronological order for Haruhi S2.

05/21 第08話 笹の葉ラプソディ(新集數);
06/18 第12話 エンドレスエイト(新集數);
06/25 第13話 涼宮ハルヒの溜息１(新集數);
07/02 第14話 涼宮ハルヒの溜息２(新集數);
07/09 第15話 涼宮ハルヒの溜息３(新集數);
08/14 第20話 涼宮ハルヒの消失１(新集數);
08/21 第21話 涼宮ハルヒの消失２(新集數);
08/28 第22話 涼宮ハルヒの消失３(新集數);
09/03 第23話 涼宮ハルヒの消失４(新集數);
09/10 第24話 ヒトメボレLOVERS(新集數);
09/17 第25話 雪山症候群(前編)(新集數);
09/24 第26話 雪山症候群(後編)(新集數);
10/01 第27話 猫はどこにいった?(新集數);
10/08 第28話 消失の後日(新集數);


The airing date seems to puzzle me...airing only 1 episode this month,2 episodes for June and July,and 3 episodes for August.I thought a TV station can air at most 4 episodes per month?

And i wonder about the missing ep 16~19 .. :uhoh:

[Ithekro]

What is listed are the new episodes inserted with the old episodes.

16 - Asahina Mikuru's Adventure Episode 00 (former episode 1 Kyon order/11 Haruhi order)
17 - Live A Live (former episode 12 in both orders)
18 - The Day of Sagittarius (former episode 11 Kyon order/13 Haruhi order)
19 - Someday in the Rain (former episode 9 Kyon order/14 Haruhi order)

Note:
(These episodes should air in the next three weeks)
9 - Mysterique Sign (former episode 7 Kyon order/8 Haruhi order)
10 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 1) (former episode 6 Kyon order/9 Haruhi order)
11 - Lone Island Syndrome (Part 2) (former episode 8 Kyon order/ 10 Haruhi order)

[Vexx]

Wow... this makes the chaos around DVD special "in between" episodes a trivial matter :) :)

One wonders how the producers themselves will handle the DVD packaging (much less how the various fansub groups will handle it and how the torrents/databases will order it).

[risingstar3110]

So the baseball EP is actually EP 7 (as we knows for sure the 1st 6 are the Melancholy)?

Anyway, it's all part of the fun

[Ithekro]

The baseball episode is number 7...They have it up in full on the official Youtube channel for a few more days before they replace it with the new Episode 8.

[Malkuth]

From http://dec.2chan.net/24/res/3664791.htm,i think this should be the real chronological order for Haruhi S2.
05/21 第08話 笹の葉ラプソディ(新集數);
06/18 第12話 エンドレスエイト(新集數);
06/25 第13話 涼宮ハルヒの溜息１(新集數);
07/02 第14話 涼宮ハルヒの溜息２(新集數);
07/09 第15話 涼宮ハルヒの溜息３(新集數);
08/14 第20話 涼宮ハルヒの消失１(新集數);
08/21 第21話 涼宮ハルヒの消失２(新集數);
08/28 第22話 涼宮ハルヒの消失３(新集數);
09/03 第23話 涼宮ハルヒの消失４(新集數);
09/10 第24話 ヒトメボレLOVERS(新集數);
09/17 第25話 雪山症候群(前編)(新集數);
09/24 第26話 雪山症候群(後編)(新集數);
10/01 第27話 猫はどこにいった?(新集數);
10/08 第28話 消失の後日(新集數);


4 episodes for the "disappearance" seems rather short, while two eps for "snow mountain"?

Anyway, if it proves true it's the best point to stop, thereafter even the novels followed a chronological order :p

[Kaisos Erranon]

Disappearance IS rather short, though.

I gotta say, however, that Where Did the Cat Go? is probably a better place to stop, given the themes and the fact that it's the New Year's story.

[Heatth]

The problem is that ending on "Where Did the Cat Go?" would be anti-climatic. It would be like ending the on "Some Day in the Rain". Ending on Disappearance or on the prologue of Intrigues would make more sense.

[Kaisos Erranon]

The problem is that ending on "Where Did the Cat Go?" would be anti-climatic. It would be like ending the on "Some Day in the Rain". Ending on Disappearance or on the prologue of Intrigues would make more sense.

The DVD run of the original season DID end on Someday in the Rain.

Where Did the Cat Go has a fair bit more of a plot, and is mainly about the SOS having fun together, which seems to be one of the messages of the series.

Though, if you really wanted an ending that felt like an ending, I'd say Wandering Shadow.

It's the last story of their first year, and Kyon keeps making that point throughout the story.

Damn, if that How Far We've Come AMV (http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/members_videoinfo.php?v=155760) was still on YouTube I could make this point better.

[Heatth]

"The DVD run of the original season DID end on Someday in the Rain"

Yeah, but a guess the DVD is for the fans. You buy knowing that the end is not the end.

When the show is broadcasting, however, one of the objectives is atract new public. A climatic ending is a good way to do that.


I don't agree with "Wandering Shadow". Is a good end to an arc but not to a season (e can, after all, wait another 3 years for more). It don't have the "OMG factor" like the original end (Melancholy part VI).

I think that "Disappearance part final" would be the better end. Ending here on a cronological order mean spend to much time on sighs tough. I say that the end on the prologue of intrigues, thus ending the Disappaerance.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Yeah, they'll probably end on the Intrigues prologue, considering how much it wraps up.

[qwertyuiopz]

this is so confusing T_T

i think i will stick with chrono order

[filipeo]

Sorry, just downloaded today, and this topic is a confusing as hell, i've decided to watch the way it was aired on tv.

so the correct order for me to watch would be
(1) (2) (7) (3) (9) (8) (10) (14) (4) (13) (12) (5) (6)

is that it?

The torrent i downloaded doesn't have ep 14 but there is a ep 00, are they the same?

[CrowKenobi]

Sorry, just downloaded today, and this topic is a confusing as hell, i've decided to watch the way it was aired on tv.

so the correct order for me to watch would be
(1) (2) (7) (3) (9) (8) (10) (14) (4) (13) (12) (5) (6)

is that it?

The torrent i downloaded doesn't have ep 14 but there is a ep 00, are they the same?This topic was for the first go-around in 2006, what's airing now (2009) has nothing to do with it (since it is airing in a new chronological order and throwing new episodes at us). :D

:cool:

[M.Marangio]

Sorry, just downloaded today, and this topic is a confusing as hell, i've decided to watch the way it was aired on tv.

so the correct order for me to watch would be
(1) (2) (7) (3) (9) (8) (10) (14) (4) (13) (12) (5) (6)

is that it?

The torrent i downloaded doesn't have ep 14 but there is a ep 00, are they the same?

There are four different episode orders:
* Kyon/broadcast order (for the first 14 episodes), nonlinear with jumps between the episodes
* Haruhi/chronological order (for the first 14 episodes)
* DVD order (basically the Haruhi order, but the episode "The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina Episode 00" is first instead of 11th
* 2009 airing order, a chronological order like the Haruhi order, but with the skipped formerly not animated material inserted in the proper place (up to today: two new episodes)

The original broadcast order was:

"The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina Episode 00"
"The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part I"
"The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part II"
"The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya"
"The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part III"
"Remote Island Syndrome Part I"
"Mystérique Sign"
"Remote Island Syndrome Part II"
"Someday in the Rain"
"The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part IV"
"The Day of Sagittarius"
"Live Alive"
"The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part V"
"The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya Part VI"


Your order is the same, but it is missing "The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina Episode 00" that was aired first, but is 11th in chronological order.

For more information see wikipedia ("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Haruhi_Suzumiya_episodes).

[Solachinx]

Oy vey. Look at all the different orders....

I believe it should be:

Kyon (Broadcast Order)
Haruhi (2006 Chron. Order)
Yuki* (Watching the first the second cour in the order the were broadcast (ex. Watching Episode 00 through Melancholy VI, then moving onto BLR and then E8 etc.)
Mikuru* (2009 Chron. Order)

*Not official name, but I didn't want to refer to it as the description.

All we need is an Itsuki order.

[Ice Block]

Actually, Yuki order fits nicely as an alternate name for the DVD order coz she was the one who did the Next Episode previews for the DVDs, IIRC. ;)

[Kogetsu Shirogane]

I thought that was just the dub... oh well, either way, that would count as a "Nagato Order," I suppose :heh:

[Solachinx]

I chose Yuki order to be the one it is because of.... er.... *the 4th book* and Mikuru because she obsesses over when things happen. I didn't include DVD order because all it is is Haruhi order with Ep.00 as the first episode.

[CrowKenobi]

Now that the re-airing has more or less concluded, here is the "re-aired" order of episodes for "season 1:"

Blue=2006 DVD release, Red=2009 original airing

01: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya I
02: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya II
03: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya III
04: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya IV
05: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya V
06: The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya VI
07: The Boredom of Haruhi Suzumiya
08: Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody
09: Mysterique Sign
10: Lone Island Syndrome I
11: Lone Island Syndrome II
12: Endless Eight
13: Endless Eight
14: Endless Eight
15: Endless Eight
16: Endless Eight
17: Endless Eight
18: Endless Eight
19: Endless Eight
20: The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya I
21: The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya II
22: The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya III
23: The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya IV
24: The Sigh of Haruhi Suzumiya V
25: The Adventures of Mikuru Asahina Episode 00
26: Live A Live
27: Day of Sagittarius
28: Someday in the Rain

Bring on season 2! :D (after the movie!!)

[Heminga13]

And it's even in color! :D