Shuffle Translation Group (GamePatch) [Archive]

Dessert

2006-09-03, 07:39

NEWS:
GamePatch website can now be found at http://z3.invisionfree.com/GamePatch/

More information there.

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Well, since a certain mod made me repost the thread ;) I'm reposting it.

Okay, for those of you who don't understand what the last thread was about, though if you've been paying attention to the Shuffle Translation thread its easy enough.
Heklin's little group of volunteers to do shuffle in their spare time has evolved!
The official group name will be GamePatch, and its home is #gamepatch on Rizon IRC Server (Sorry folks, no direct links here).

As some of you already know, we are also working on Tick Tack!, which is a game in the Shuffle! universe thats timeline is set in the event that you chose Nerine's ending in Shuffle!. After that, we have no definite plans on which game we will do, though Soul Link and Really Really look appealing.

Now that the introductions are out of the way, lets talk business. With the forming of the group, we will also be expanding! A website will be posted shortly (once we get it up :D), and a few other suprises may be on the way.

~Daisuki~

2006-09-03, 07:41

i would be happy to make a few logos for you if you would like :)
Good job guys!

Lordi

2006-09-03, 07:43

I can't wait for the website to be finished! YAY! =]

Thany

2006-09-03, 07:52

Well if you ask me, it's a bit more on topic compared to the old one, but somehow I don't really like it... Maybe the patch without any character would have been better, but I guess my opinion is biased... a little bit^^

Dessert

2006-09-03, 07:55

Yeah, thats what our first design was, but someone thought it was too plain. *Coughhekincough*.

If you ask me, It should be plain. I mean, a logo shouldn't be able colors and shiny things, it should be simple, something people can remember. :D

But thats just my opinion, it dosen't count.

Lordi

2006-09-03, 07:57

I agree with Des there, but then again, it kind of matter what kind of thing the logo represents...perhaps O.o

Rin-Sama

2006-09-03, 11:18

If i had the SHUFFLE game i would try out the patch and see how i like it. But sadly i don't....

I do like your logo though!

radister

2006-09-03, 19:13

So does this mean we should call you Gamepatch now?
and ask our question to the group rather then just heklin?
if so
Hey Gamepatch!
good to see your working on your site and a logo.
looks like you really want to make something of this.
and a few other suprises may be on the way
:uhoh: some suprises, hey...;)
i'll look forward to it
but i do have a question for the team
if your getting your own website,
are you planing to move the shuffle trasnlation coversation from animsuki to a diffrent location or keep it here for the time being?:confused:

Lordi

2006-09-03, 21:12

Yes, we are now GamePatch.
I think Heklin (man! spelled his name wrong again :() or Dessert might answare your question better then me, since I do not actually know what they are planning :)

radister

2006-09-04, 02:22

Yes, we are now GamePatch.
I think Heklin (man! spelled his name wrong again :() or Dessert might answare your question better then me, since I do not actually know what they are planning :)
that why i directed the question towad the translation team that is translating shuffle. (gamepatch)
:eyebrow: :confused: lordi, your not part of the translating team are you?:eyebrow::confused:
just a bit confused about the line Yes, we are now GamePatch.
i was under the understanding that this is just the offical name been given the to translation group. that inless im mistaken the only two members that write on this forum are heklin and dessert.

Lordi

2006-09-04, 02:44

I'm part of the group, but not as a translator...I can't say more than that.

Dessert

2006-09-04, 11:16

GamePatch is the name for the group, not just me and heklin. The reason that me and heklin are the only ones who post is because we are really the only ones that need to. Besides our translators, checkers, and other random people, me and Heklin just handle the leadership and organization (even though he is still the head translator and editor).

As for myself, I handle Public Relations and organization of the project, so if you have any questions about it, I ask that, if possible, you direct it to me so that Heklin dosen't have to take time out of work to answer all your questions.

As for Lordi, he is on our team, but he is not a translator.

As for the Shuffle Discussion, we are still trying to decide on that one. We will post news about it later.

Lordi

2006-09-04, 12:02

~Daisuki~

2006-09-04, 12:08

YAY! :)
I really should get some sleep soon. Jeez! Been up since 1am O.o

what are you lol ?

Dessert

2006-09-04, 12:13

Hes one of our tech people :P

A full staff list and applications for staff will be posted soon.

radister

2006-09-04, 15:06

Lol
sorry lordi for questioning you, so that means there a three members of gamepatch here or are there more hiding in the shadows:uhoh:
Originally Posted by Lordi
YAY!
I really should get some sleep soon. Jeez! Been up since 1am O.o
1 am! i thought getting up around 5am was ealry but 1!
either the mastered the art of sleep
or coffee is your friend:heh:

bobmarleypeople

2006-09-04, 15:50

so does that mean I have to talk here instead of the other thread? if so then I have to transfer all my posts over XD

Dessert

2006-09-04, 19:57

No no,

ATTENTION FOLKS! THIS IS _NOT_ REPLACING THE OLD THREAD

This is just an announcement for the group that did it (Heklin and friends) is no longer existing. Instead, Heklin and I decided to make this into an official VN Translation group. Its still the same people with shuffle, only now we have a name besides " heklin and whoever else he begs to help him".

And yeah, right now we don't have many 'official' staff. Current it is Dessert (me), Heklin, Lordi, and maybe one or two others, we aren't sure yet. Once we get a site up, we will have a Join Us page where you can apply to be part of our staff and help us out. The main reason for applications is to ease the load and organize it, instead of a hundred people PMing me and Heklin going "I WANT 2 HALP!", and also to filter out some of the folks who try and join just to say 'I did this project, I'm cool' when they didn't really do anything :P

Discussion of the translation will stay in the old thread, but any news about gamepatch and a few updates about Shuffle will be posted here by either myself or heklin.

Lordi

2006-09-04, 23:47

Lol
sorry lordi for questioning you, so that means there a three members of gamepatch here or are there more hiding in the shadows:uhoh:

1 am! i thought getting up around 5am was ealry but 1!
either the mastered the art of sleep
or coffee is your friend:heh:
Hehe, no problem man :)

~Daisuki~

2006-09-05, 03:54

Dessert

2006-09-05, 14:47

Eh, I'm sure heklins got a few, I've gotten a couple myself. One of them from our very own Lordi ;)

Lordi

2006-09-05, 23:17

That's right :)

DingoEnderZOE2

2006-09-06, 13:48

Hmm I'm tempted to offer my services as a translator but despite the fact that I do have experience translating a few Ero-games with some of my work being on the web, I'm not all that skilled with coming up with decent translations from Japanese to English(ESPECIALLY when it comes to narrations. The narrations can really mess me up....), I don't know if I'm right for the role unless I'm allowed to learn as I move along.

SotiCoto

2006-09-12, 23:15

o_0;

... This seems moderately recent.

Don't mind me. I just happened to aquire Shuffle! by certain means, but since I don't know a shred of Japanese it means absolutely nothing to me at present...
I did however catch word of some so-called patch for it in a description at datorrents.com ..... so would anyone mind filling me in? I honestly haven't got a clue.... and I really would like to understand the game..... preferably without having to try and teach myself Japanese (or kidnap a Japanese student from UCL and force them to translate at knife-point).

Lordi

2006-09-13, 08:10

We're working on the patch, but no ETA at this point.

SnakeLegend

2006-09-13, 08:39

lol @ Dessert XD
just hang on... the patch will be ready anytime now =X
Heklin overwork himself for that >.>;;

SotiCoto

2006-09-13, 09:10

radister

2006-09-13, 09:23

Whoever this Heklin person is then, I'm thankful for their efforts... and its lucky that I aquired Shuffle! now and not earlier... close to the completion date for this.
As it stands, even if I taught myself Japanese I wouldn't be able to read it anyway as all I get up on the screen is garbled characters....
garbled characters.. have you tried setting your system settings to japanese?
thats the most common solution for this problem.
if you don't then even with english text you have problems, (such as over lapping letters and so)

night soul

2006-09-13, 09:27

SotiCoto

2006-09-13, 09:29

garbled characters.. have you tried setting your system settings to japanese?
thats the most common solution for this problem.
if you don't then even with english text you have problems, (such as over lapping letters and so)
I see...
So in order for it to function normally the entire computer needs to be set over to Japanese?
That makes sense... though I'm wary of doing that since I'm certain I'm not familiar enough with the Japanese language to turn the computer back once I was done, and could cause myself some quite serious issues.
Thankyou for your explanation though.

night soul

2006-09-13, 09:42

simply change your non-unicode programs language to japanese,windows will stay the same.

control panel \ hour date language \ language options \ advanced
change the language to japanese

Toxic

2006-09-13, 11:15

Although some applications will change their language and certain characters will be turned into kanji(?).

SotiCoto

2006-09-13, 11:46

... Ok.
Sounds like a plan... for the time being at least. ^_^
It would be interesting to see whether I've actually learnt enough to be able to pronounce what I could see that way, regardless of my not understanding it! ^_^;;

Thanks!

Furudanuki

2006-09-13, 12:30

I have acquired shuffle 2 months ago,still waiting patiently for the patch,my copy of the game is here to last.
But returning to the main topic,i think the logo of gamepatch is cool,,,,but,,,don´t you guys think its better,or a simpler one or,instead of one girl in the logo(giving preference to nerine)(my favourite is kaede)put all of the girls in there?
Well, there is simply no such thing as too much Nerine. But I imagine Nerine was used because that picture of her in the nurse uniform was already available, and it fit in with the band-aid theme for the patch.

ShadowrazoR

2006-09-13, 12:32

but,,,don´t you guys think its better,or a simpler one or,instead of one girl in the logo(giving preference to nerine)(my favourite is kaede)put all of the girls in there?

I think it's because only Nerine was ever seen in a nurse uniform. Fits the Band-Aid thing perfectly, I'd say.:D

Though I'm actually a Sia fan... *sniff sniff

EDIT: Geh. Furudanuki posted 2 minutes before me, rendering my post totally pointless. :p

night soul

2006-09-13, 13:21

if you put it like that ,it does have it´s logic.
don´t get me wrong,i like that logo, but i think that with so many shuffle fans willing to give their ideias,it could be done a much better one. changing the logo rating to a much higher awesome.

~Daisuki~

2006-09-13, 13:47

o_0;

Don't mind me. I just happened to aquire Shuffle! by certain means

i smell bit torrent lol :P
the logo was better as it was before nerine was on it.. what happens if they start translating soul link etc.. nice to have a nutral logo. anyway good luck.

SotiCoto

2006-09-13, 20:53

i smell bit torrent lol :P
To be splitting hairs, the "torrent" part was quite correct, though I've not seen the "bit" part used in anything I've touched for several years. Same basic principle though. I wouldn't be so dishonest as to deny it. ^_^;;

the logo was better as it was before nerine was on it.. what happens if they start translating soul link etc.. nice to have a nutral logo. anyway good luck.
Is that what this thread is really all about?
The logo? o_0;

I mean... its... just an image. A symbol... It vaguely gets the point across, so thats all thats needed, right? It doesn't exactly comply to my own personal sense of asthetic, but then I'm not even remotely important here.

SnakeLegend

2006-09-14, 02:26

rofl.
i'll try to 'make' them one logo consisting of all the girls :3

lolipedofin

2006-09-17, 00:17

simply change your non-unicode programs language to japanese,windows will stay the same.

control panel \ hour date language \ language options \ advanced
change the language to japanese

But when i opened the control panel, there are no option for japanese language, do you know the link where i can get that....?? And if i installed that, will my browser be able to show Japz character?? Thanx for the info (though it's not intended 4 me...)

Vexx

2006-09-17, 00:49

@Soticoto: the purpose of this thread was orginally short... just to introduce the group as a formal structure and their logo. Everything else has been kind of off the rail.

@lolipedofin: There's great instructions at http://www.declan-software.com/japanese_ime/ for japan-ifying your computer without messing up the english parts.

Yes, your browser should be able to after you do the installation I've linked to (hopefully you're using Firefox). You should also be able to type in Romaji and have the computer automatically convert to -kana script though its not *really* convenient. You will *probably* need your Windows OS disk depending on what version of Windows you run to get the necessary system files.

Lastly, I ask people to use "JP" if they want to shorten "japanese" ... I've not seen "japz" before but if it is slang for "jap" or "japs" ..... well, please don't as it is considered extremely derogatory :) I see you're a new member so be sure to read the forum rules. The mods actually enforce them.

lolipedofin

2006-09-17, 01:05

Thanx 4 d info,, i am using firefox,, and sorry for my abbreviation, the other forum i've joined, is okay with that,,, i'll be careful next time.... sorry again everyone... :bow:

Vexx

2006-09-17, 02:31

Toxic

2006-09-17, 03:52

I'm afraid to ask what forum thinks the racial epithet "jap" is okay :( and what other racial epithets they allow. I guess historical context is all too easily forgotten or never learned.

Anyway, hope the instructions work.
No offense, but I think you're just being bitchy. I don't see why the Japanese would be offended if anyone used "Jap" to refer to them, unless they MEAN to be racial. Most people just do it because they're too lazy to type the whole word. Seriously, if they're offended by something that's not MEANT to offend them, then they're way too sensitive. Just because it WAS used as a racial term many years ago, it doesn't mean it's used as one now.

Zelos_Zalis

2006-09-17, 05:05

This will probably be modded without my imput but I would like to note that to those it would offend (and so nobody gets the wrong idea, I'm not one of them) It doesn't really matter if it was ment in that sense or not, because if that word offends someone all logic usually leaves the floor once its read. For example a group of players were playing a MMORPG and were losing and someone made the comment "looks like we have a 8%&* in the armor" (never can be too careful folks :eyebrow: ) and one of the players in the party happened to be of the proper nationality to be offended, once server admins had been brought into it things were quickly found to be a misunderstanding but It took that much for that person to see logic again. while it may seem foolish. Its better off to prevent uneccessary conflicts before they happen. so I think others would agree with me its easier for people to just mind their manners rather than go through a highly uneccessary conflict. :nono:

relentlessflame

2006-09-17, 05:06

No offense, but I think you're just being bitchy.And one could turn around and say that you're just being insensitive and uncaring for suggesting that it's "their fault if they get offended even when it wasn't meant that way!". It's all a matter of perspective. In any case, I fail to see why this is worth derailing the thread for. If you're aware a word could be seen by some as a racial slur, then why would you keep using it? To get a rise out of overly-sensitive people? Clearly, as you pointed out, those who use the word around here aren't aware of its history; upon being made aware, they can easily find another abbreviation. And that was the spirit in which the comment was given -- no "bitchiness" at all. Let's try to stay on topic...

(Edit: See also what Zelos_Zalis was writing at the same time. I hope it's over now.)

Vexx

2006-09-17, 12:30

No offense, but I think you're just being bitchy. I don't see why the Japanese would be offended if anyone used "Jap" to refer to them, unless they MEAN to be racial. Most people just do it because they're too lazy to type the whole word. Seriously, if they're offended by something that's not MEANT to offend them, then they're way too sensitive. Just because it WAS used as a racial term many years ago, it doesn't mean it's used as one now.

As two other posts answered what *should* have been intuitive, I don't need to repeat what they said. "many years ago" is in error because it continues to be used in the present day as an epithet. Since you aren't the target of the epithet... hmmm, just easier to suggest you review the forum rules about harassment and abuse since you're a new member.

Catgirls

2006-09-17, 12:52

Instead of going through and deleting off-topic or insulting posts, I'll close this thread for now. If there's a real need for this thread, then maybe I'll go through it and weed it out, but for now, we'll let it rest.

Closed.

General_Norris

2006-11-23, 11:23

A received my copy two days ago and I downloaded the patch to translate it. Hopwever the text appears a bit weird (Random spaces and random capital letters). Is this normal?

Sorry if this has been said to death but the translation thread was closed and it has too much pages to look for it.

Dessert

2007-12-23, 01:26

Hello!

This is an update about the current status of GamePatch staff and website.

In October, Lordi, who is our web administrator, stopped coming online, and in all practicality went MIA (and still is), at that time, the website also went down. Recently, it has a wordpress setup page, which I am still investigating.
Heklin is currently in Japan, and doing well last I heard from him. There were problems with his lines, though he should have gotten internet by now, there were no promises.

As for the server bills, the actual website domain and servers are paid for through the next two years thanks to Heklin, so we are not sure whats going on with the site as I stated earlier. I will forward an email if/when I get some news about it.

The patch itself is technically completed, a few more scripts need to be edited, and the patch installer needs to be created, the issue is, Heklin is the only one with all the scripts available at this point, as my drive with the scripts crashed and burned. Me and other GamePatch staff are striving to contact Lordi or Heklin, and hope to get everything back in motion soon.

Thank you,
Dessert
Head of GamePatch Resources and Relations

EDIT: Read first post for more updates

PS: Can a mod delete the poll please? Thank you.

Vexx

2007-12-26, 15:36

You know, this is driving me nuts and I don't even care for the series anymore. Thanks for the update and if there's anything we can do to assist, let us know. Sounds like the first thing that is needed is a number of archive points for work-in-progress.

Dessert

2007-12-31, 18:11

GamePatch website can now be found at www.game-patch.org (http://www.game-patch.org/index.php)

More information there.

Dxon

2008-01-04, 13:31

Why cant I download the patches??

Paul

2008-01-13, 11:32

Why cant I download the patches??

maybe because you have to register........

Sakura_Kinomoto

2008-01-14, 10:33

:p; typical Dxon :) dont worry i made the same mistake in the past with something else :)

Dxon

2008-01-14, 11:07

^^ Sooo... I have to register for the patch. Right... If I would register to that site then that means that that site is the 57th site I'd register to.. :D
Getting spam in my mail box lately.. ^^

off topic??

Sakura_Kinomoto

2008-01-14, 11:21

methinks so, Better get bak on topic before relentlessflame gobbles us up lol, on topic ive seen the patch in action at a mates and i to get the random capital letters and weird symbols

Dxon

2008-01-14, 11:46

I do have a little something to give a very crude translation. I might give it a shot for a tut on how to get that crude translation for a game. ^^

siber222000

2008-01-17, 23:01

is this patch almost completed? i rmemeber goin to this one site that have all the progression for translation and shuffle! was in the progress of *editing* so.. almost done i guess? lol

Vexx

2008-01-19, 03:18

Editing appears to be a journey, not a destination. They've apparently lost track of Heklin (main translator) *and* many of the working data-files-in-progress. It'd be a shame to lose that stuff -- the alpha test patch for the first 3 days actually looked quite decent.

Dxon

2008-01-19, 10:56

Yea. Editing takes a long time... To bad though.. When I'm looking for other translations on other games it says it took them 3 years without any troubles like data loss or stopping translators. 3 YEARS!! That's long...

CygnusX

2008-01-20, 16:51

Just finished my first time playing the game. Since I can't read Japanese, I followed a walkthrough for the Asa-route (my favourite, probably cos I liked the anime ...) and pressed the enter key constantly (except during the hentai scenes ofcourse :p). Some scenes I knew what was going on cos of similarities with the anime, but many I didn't.

I tried installing the patch from game patch multiple times (extracting the rar-file ShuffleUpdate(v.1.1) in the work directory of Shuffle and executing the Navalupdate or just copy paste the content of data to the working directory) and when I checked ingame: Help -> about, it did indeed say version 1.10 instead of 1.00, meaning the patch was installed, though there wasn't one word english during the game. Guess the patch is not complete / working yet... ? But why is it downloadable then ? ... Though I read different responses on different forums, like that the patch is easily installed and working and others say they're still waiting ... so :confused:

Or does the patch work and am I doing something wrong :confused: If it works, can someone please describe exactly how the patch is installed? It would be much appreciated :) If it doesn't work, I guess I'll wait patiently for the new release. :) Can't wait to play the game in english.

demonix

2008-01-21, 14:53

That is because you DIDN'T download the patch all you downloaded was the updater that upgrades v1.0 to v1.1 (which is needed if you didn't get the DVD edition) what you need to download is the shuffle alpha patch which actually contains the translated text.

CygnusX

2008-01-21, 16:50

Haha it works, so easy! :D

I didn't download the alpha release cos it is was so small and I thought it was the old version of the patch which covers only 3 days while the updater is new and would contain a lot more days, which isn't true :'( ... Well at least first 3 days are working now.

Thanks! :D

I'll be waiting for the release of a more complete patch. Keep up the much appreciated work! :)

Sian

2008-01-25, 09:45

since your up and running again (seemly actively) ... is there an ETA. on the full translation patch? ... such as 26'th Febuary prehaps? (to go with the first DVD in USA)

fallin up

2008-01-26, 01:33

everything so far on the patch looks great, i cant wait for the finished product :)

Dessert

2008-03-25, 16:50

Hello everyone!

News about the patches, and Ero-Jiji/Heklin has been posted on www.game-patch.org

Feel free to check it out!

DeotoxSlayer

2008-03-28, 22:48

So Heklin'll likely be back before near the end of summer, Yay we might get the patch released before 2009. Thoug I wonder, I know it's been said that he's been without, Internet, but was he without Computer as well...

LeaD36

2008-04-02, 19:31

patches okay okay, but where can i find the game? Oo

demonix

2008-04-03, 12:08

patches okay okay, but where can i find the game? Oo

here is at least one source. (http://www.himeyashop.com/product_info.php/cPath/30_48/products_id/2671)

Don't ask for downloads (unless your that desperate to get banned)

Shana

2008-06-06, 14:54

I've just gotten the game and was like dying to get the patch. I went to Game Patch's webpage and it said it was temporarily closed. I wonder why? Page reconstruction?

Any other sources of where to download the patch from are always welcome.

demonix

2008-06-07, 06:27

Well from what I heard they was planning to change how the site looks (it's probably the reason why the site has been down for as long as this).
I've actually got a copy of the alpha patch (plus the v1.1 updater for anyone who has the CD version of the game) so I can easily upload them to my personal web space until such time as the mail site is back online.

sora12

2008-06-10, 09:50

can someone m upload the alpha patch for shuffle and also the updater? coz in mine the only translated are just the 1st two days i dont know why.

relentlessflame

2008-06-10, 21:48

coz in mine the only translated are just the 1st two days i dont know why.Because that's all that has been released. That's why it was an "alpha patch" -- it's a proof-of-concept.

demonix

2008-06-11, 07:17

Until gamepatch comes back online I'll put the currently available patch and the v1.0-v1.1 updater on my own web space (of which will be removed once the site comes back online)

(link removed) (remember this only translates the first few day's)
(link removed (only needed if you have the original CD release of the game)

Also if I discover abuse of these links then the links will be removed and then everyone will have to wait until gamepatch comes back online

sora12

2008-06-11, 07:28

how many days in the game does alpha patch translated?

Sian

2008-06-11, 09:02

first two days

sora12

2008-06-11, 09:19

well i hope they release it XD

Shana

2008-06-11, 18:01

Thanks demonix! downloaded and installing :)

fallin up

2008-06-14, 13:35

im so sick of this. will the full patch ever be finished? ugh. whatever i guess i would prefer a quality release though

sora12

2008-06-20, 22:24

any news about this guys?

demonix

2008-06-22, 08:13

^no news (site is still shown as down)

And as I've found abuse (with one person banging my webspace over 40 times in one day) in my web logs I've now removed the links to the patch and updater (I did warn everyone about doing this and one moron has just ruined everything)

sora12

2008-06-22, 11:03

well i hope they are doing fine. *prepares the kaladbolg II and bow*

arteas

2008-06-28, 09:52

I remember before the site went down there was a message about Heklin who's apparently got the translated script returning to the US sometime in July and that they were going to begin work when he returned.

raven911

2008-06-28, 18:06

The website is back (well, sort of). But .... Tick! Tack! Alpha patch?:confused:

sora12

2008-06-29, 04:18

Hmmm this is a good news though they are still close. It seems they will fully finish the shuffle this july. Well tick tack is ready to be translated. I hope they appear in july.

Vexx

2008-07-15, 17:46

Just a bump to ask if the website has moved again or is still down. At this point, I figure asking every half year or so is legit :)

demonix

2008-07-16, 05:48

Just a bump to ask if the website has moved again or is still down. At this point, I figure asking every half year or so is legit :)

It's still down but as has already been mentioned it should be returning soon (when soon is even I don't know)

sora12

2008-07-16, 06:38

hmm i lurk some forums about this thing, they said it will be available in august perhaps.

Ferozban

2008-07-22, 04:25

since the website is down can somebody that has the patch upload it on rapidshare please.

thx fwd

Vexx

2008-07-22, 04:36

a few seconds reading the thread will tell you that there's no translation patch to "rapidshare" ... the fan work is still in progress.

a game bug patch from the software maker is available from their website (link available in the thread).

chiby

2008-07-25, 17:24

Soo Whene is it coming out? (or whene is the site back up ?)
its not verry clear to me :D

Vexx

2008-07-26, 03:36

It can't get any clearer than demonix (who's involved with the site) saying:

It's still down but as has already been mentioned it should be returning soon (when soon is even I don't know)There's something very ominous when so many posters don't even browse an "entire" 5 page thread before posting :P

This must be why they have a ban rule about asking when a fansub is going to be released....

chiby

2008-07-26, 07:30

ow i didn`t see that -_-"

sora12

2008-07-26, 09:59

well lets hope that this august they will come in action.

fallin up

2008-07-31, 19:14

okay its august tomorrow. cant wait to see if anything comes out soon!

sora12

2008-08-01, 06:34

dont expect too much, its too good to be true

lolipedofin

2008-08-05, 03:20

So it's been what? 5 years?!

*re-check 1st page*

Oops, it has only been 2 years... weird, i seem to recall that it has been at least 3 years.. '~'

Well, anyway at this point the only thing i can do is be as negative as i could, which is kinda hard for me to do, since I'm always the type to be over-expectant... Well, yeah.. be as negative as i could and then be surprised when the patch is released. If they suddenly went MIA again, for good... I could just, "well yeah.. i thought so..." lol

It's weird, 2 or 3 years ago, i thought that by this time, visual novel/eroge community would have grown large, and a lot more of dedicated translator groups would appear... Well, there are a lot more groups that actually planning to release VN translation, as for whether they are ''dedicated'' or not, only God knows... haha.

Btw, none of what i wrote above are meant to directly or indirectly making fun of Gamepatch, I was talking about this generally, at least gamepatch are done translating and close (i hope) to release... There's a lot group out there that actually made us delighted with their project announcement, but then disbanded before even actually translating...X(

Vexx

2008-08-05, 17:11

Lots of people start projects with grand visions ... then real life intrudes with a sledgehammer.

I've started at least 3 or 4 translation projects of manga - its just really hard to make substantial progress when the car needs repair, the plumbing breaks, or there's overtime at work.

There's nothing really stopping someone else from picking the Shuffle project up.... its just that Heklin has these interrupts and a desire that the work be his vision. The only complaint I have is that "it'd be good if the existing work were backed up offsite just in case...". :P

raven911

2008-08-06, 04:08

So ... any news on Helkin whether he had come back to the state?

demonix

2008-08-06, 04:59

So ... any news on Helkin whether he had come back to the state?

He wasn't returning to the states anyway since what was happening was his connection back to the web was supposed to have been done by (yes we are talking about Japan here).

Edit: also I'm not involved in the gamepatch site in any way I just have a very good memory when it comes to certain things.

staticwarz

2008-08-18, 20:43

yea i got shuffle now and i noticed the patch isnt done and im willing to wait but can someone give me the alpha patch the site isnt up so i cant get it and i really want to play even if its one the first few days thanks to anyone that can get it for me

shadowwind

2008-08-22, 10:28

Hello... I have the game and was gonna get the patch from Game-patch.org but they have been down for the last 2 weeks or so (at least thats how long I been checkin).. I was wondering if theres another way to get the... whether its through another site or whatever.... if not.. when are they comin back?

Vexx

2008-08-24, 14:25

Please read the thread - it answers everything about the status of the patch and the group - its only 5 or 6 pages.

Short summary: there is no english patch. It is still in development. Only an alpha patch which covered the first few days of the game was ever released.

Its the "it'll be done when it is done" status.

staticwarz

2008-08-25, 03:57

can someone give me the alpha patch plz and ty

Vexx

2008-08-25, 12:30

I used to have it but it got caught in a "my hard drive failed and I hadn't backed it up properly" moment. Perhaps someone out there still has it.

KoiNoDensetsu

2008-08-27, 23:56

sora12

2008-08-29, 08:03

ermm if shuffle essence+ is using PS2 port as a console i bet that they wouldn't translate it. afterall they are working in finishing the original game and will be followed by tick tack. well thats the old news i heard.

Vexx

2008-09-02, 13:59

I'm not sure if this has been answered yet, but are you going to consider releasing a patch for Shuffle! Essence+ once it's released (Shuffle! Essence+ is a remake of the PS2 port Shuffle! on the Stage and includes two new characters ((and possiblu H-scenes for PS2 characters)))? It would be four more paths to translate, but the original patch's text could be used for the original girls and the main story in between. You'd still be able to release a patch after you're done editing the original game, that way those who want to play Shuffle! in English as soon as possible will be able to.

Who is this "you" you're addressing? The patch team rarely/never reads this thread (I don't know that the lead Heklin has visited here in years...).
Since they have yet to release a *first* complete patch in the several years since Shuffle!'s release ... its probably a bit over-the-top to talk about future patches.

shadowwind

2008-09-02, 19:53

quick question... anyone know where I can get a free version of quick atlas? I need it to go ahead and play the Japanese version of the game... only thing I found was some demo that only opened a acrobat reader page and did nothing...

KoiNoDensetsu

2008-09-03, 19:08

Who is this "you" you're addressing? The patch team rarely/never reads this thread (I don't know that the lead Heklin has visited here in years...).
Since they have yet to release a *first* complete patch in the several years since Shuffle!'s release ... its probably a bit over-the-top to talk about future patches.

Either demonix hadn't edited his post yet saying he's not involved in the translation project or I just didn't see his edit, but I had read his above post and assumed he was involved in the project.

I read on a forum that the editing for the patch should be done by the end of the year (a Christmas present!:heh:), so it's not that out of the question to talk about different patches. The translation team will either focus on Tick! Tack! or (if it's released and they decide to translate it) Shuffle! Essence+.

BTW, has Naval even released Essence+ yet? Have they even given a release date?

Vexx

2008-09-04, 11:01

KoiNoDensetsu

2008-09-04, 22:45

You'll have to forgive my grain of salt as I've seen the group make too many predictions about "when the editing will be done" for the last, what, ouch... three years now?

I just have it filed in the "it'll be done when its done" part of my memory.

I've not seen any release date for Essence+ but I haven't visited the Naval site in a while....

Wasn't the reason the project got so delayed because the project's administrator went offline for a long period of time? Since he's back now, the translation team can continue editing the game.

It's true that many translation teams delay their projects, and Shuffle! could continue to be delayed by the end of the year, but now that the administrator's back, the project shoudn't take years to be edited.

sora12

2008-09-12, 04:32

damn goodnews.

Game-patch website is up now but the full translation of shuffle game would be available before christmas after one of their staff goes back probably this late sept or oct. i guess we are lucky after all but they also announced that they were disbanded. Just check their site.

Ya-Ha

demonix

2008-09-12, 04:54

but they also announced that they were disbanded.

That's only for the gamepatch armies (which you only saw in the forums)

sora12

2008-09-12, 05:14

Oh sorry for my mistake well whatever who cares anyways. important is they are now up and jsut waiting for Heklin now you can start to visit/bombard them

YA-HA!

Utau

2008-09-13, 08:12

Not to mention the Tick Tack alpha patch that they released earlier on. This was the greatest news i received on my e-mail this morning :D

WOOO!!

jier2232

2008-10-23, 06:56

i heard that the chinese patch is already out. can someone be so kind n tell me where can i get it?

Wckiller

2008-10-23, 18:37

Does anyone know if the site is down or something? I go there and I get a blank screen but I was able to see it right before that like 15 minutes before now I get a white screen. I had a page telling me something about requesting too many pages there but I only requester one and then back twice....

Vexx

2008-10-23, 20:46

Wckiller

2008-10-23, 20:59

Ahhh ok I was wondering, so the ban is only like 1 day ban or something? I wanted to download the alpha patch just to have The 2 first days and read up on when it will approximately come out with the full patch.

Vexx

2008-10-23, 23:56

No idea... when I got the warning, I just waited an hour and tried again (I was grabbing the 1.1 patch to re-install the game).

So that tells me you could probably try once every few hours or so. Otherwise, you'll have to try and contact one of the site guys.

UPDATE: okay... gamepatch people? edit// okay the "flood protection" settings make the site nearly unusable. Locking me out after 3 pages (request webpage, login, go to downloads) is just freaking ridiculous. 3 page requests is *not* "flooding".

I tried to collect the alpha patch to send you, Wckiller, but *visiting* the site is considered threatening to it, it seems :P
I sincerely hope that's a misconfiguration ... and from demonix says below it is a technical issue with the site mechanics.

demonix

2008-10-24, 01:20

They've got their page request settings on their web server locked down so low that I got a page request flood warning after navigating through 3 pages. You're probably banned/locked so you might try again tomorrow.

yes, its set stupidly low so I can only imagine there's some refresh monkeys out there.

Actually it is a known problem on the site and some have suggested that changing the site theme is known to stop the flood protection message (but not all the time).

Haru~

2008-10-24, 13:23

Yeah the problem is still there. I wonder if they will fix it before the release of the complete patch. Still any news about this?

Wckiller

2008-10-24, 18:32

Yeah the problem is still there. I wonder if they will fix it before the release of the complete patch. Still any news about this?

I'm not the one to say but form their website no news.

Also I still get a white screen when I go to game-patch it won't load up so yeah.... its been like maybe 17 hours since it started. How do I contact the people running the site for help.

jier2232

2008-10-26, 00:40

could some one upload or give me a link to the chinese patch?

demonix

2008-10-29, 01:36

It looks like action is being taken since the following is all that is on the site now

Hello GP community!

As many of know, the site have not been quite stable recently. Due to that I am going to move the site to another system, that also means you once again have to re-register when the site is up and running again.
Best regards
Lordie

Vexx

2008-10-29, 01:40

And a bouncy bouncy we go...... it is a silly place at Camelot.

sora12

2008-10-29, 07:59

hmm did he mean a new website or he will just fixed that site?

siber222000

2008-11-02, 10:00

dang i wonder where that guy who has all the editing and stuff D:::: i've been waiting for this for so long

Yakumo Fan

2008-11-24, 08:28

Ok, so I'm wondering what happened to the game-patch.org webside.
Now theres some 404 Not Found nginx/0.5.33, thingy
They moved elsewhere?
Please someone tell me couse I was really lookin foward to the shuffle game translation

Tabris

2008-11-24, 12:32

Hello GP community!

As many of know, the site have not been quite stable recently. Due to that I am going to move the site to another system, that also means you once again have to re-register when the site is up and running again.
Best regards
Lordie

mit7059

2008-11-25, 02:17

Does anyone know where I can find *any* of the patches? I'd like to play but the game-patch website is down I don't know where I can find any version of any of the patches. If I remember the rules correctly you can't post links here but if someone could pm me or something that would be great. And if I am breaking rules right now I apologize to the admins.

Vexx

2008-11-25, 03:01

How about you guys read the thread to get up to date.... ? :)
Its only a few pages...

Yakumo Fan

2008-11-28, 04:36

Ok, sorry
I was only checking the news here, or on the gamepatch site so when i saw it was down, i tried reading/asking here
Can someone PM me where can i find other news on this topic?
Or should i check only here?

PS.Shit, reading forum messages while your 3rd year economy teacher is stending right behind you and asking to do the equation on the board is bad idea...

Fentath

2008-11-30, 01:31

I noticed that mit had been looking for the alpha patch during my occasional update check on the status of the gamepatch website. I downloaded it maybe 2 years ago or so? I don't delete translation patches I pick up, and since I randomly decided to see if mit still needs it, I thought I might as well ask anyone else if they want it as well. I'll be checking for the next 2 or 3 days as I go through the process of getting it to mit. As a warning though, it really only covers the first 3 days of the game...but I suppose it will suffice as an alluring appetizer for when the full patch comes out soon.

sora12

2008-12-09, 01:44

is the patch is still incomplete?

Vexx

2008-12-09, 02:01

aye, until someone announces the site is up and the patch available (several of us check regularly) ... you can probably assume its still baking :P

sora12

2009-01-05, 07:12

Still dead and no news?

Sian

2009-01-05, 10:08

*looks in thread* ... doesn't seem like anyone posted so i'd wager so

justinstrife

2009-01-13, 00:03

Such a sad sad day. :(

Wish I had the necessary skills to translate Shuffle, alas, I have none of the skills needed. -sigh- I need to go back to school and take some programming courses as well as Japanese.

Vexx

2009-01-13, 01:54

I just hate that a lot of work might get simply lost and anyone else who took it up would have to start from scratch. That's why places like the B-T translation projects are great... if someone is hit by a meteor, the work can survive.

sora12

2009-01-13, 21:56

honestly, i think if they know that something like this could happen, i wish that they plan some effective counter measures. Well we just have to wait or its better to think that it is already lost forever.

Vexx

2009-01-14, 14:54

aye, I can't say I'm terribly happy with the situation. If they intend on finishing it - fine, say so. If they don't, also say so. Its been "almost done" for, what, 3 years now?

It actually impedes other people from starting because no one likes to re-do work that they know exists. That's why places like Sourceforge are so popular (open source software site).

Starting to think about putting my copies of Shuffle! and TickTack! up on ebay... :P I've played through them in my torturous knowledge of Japanese.

LookaBomba

2009-01-20, 18:44

oh hey im new here so...yea....anyways i have been trying www.game-patch.org and i always get "404 error"......has the site been down long?

siber222000

2009-01-20, 19:30

haha i gave up on this patch long time ago =_=... too bad but i guess some people doesn't know how to back up important files or make copies.

Vexx

2009-01-20, 23:34

"back ups" weren't the issue.. .its that the guys who *HAVE* the data keep vanishing offline for months or years, leaving the others adrift.

As far as the website goes.... they keep taking it down to save money if nothings happening. There was also a period when their site host apparently had them on a very tight transfer cap and it would go offline frequently as people tried to visit.

Frankly, I'll give it six more months and then call the project essentially dead and stop worrying about it anymore.

LookaBomba

2009-01-21, 14:12

i think its stupid if u ask me i mean c'mon i have waited 4 at least 7 months now and they still dont even have 80% of the real patch done!!!!

i have been trying 2 get the alpha patch but i dont know where 2 find it....the internet is a big world......i am soooooo lost!!!!!!

Tabris

2009-01-22, 19:39

i think its stupid if u ask me i mean c'mon i have waited 4 at least 7 months now and they still dont even have 80% of the real patch done!!!!
Try 3 or so years for some of us.

Not really waiting, I forgot about it after a while, but it's all the same.

Vexx

2009-01-22, 20:13

yeah.. heh... 7 "whole months" :)

Sorry, don't mean to poke - but for those of who've been checking periodically since 2005-ish just find that a bit funny.

"They" appear to only work on it in their spare time (since it is a hobby after all) but it does seem they've vanished for good this time...

sora12

2009-01-24, 09:13

well we cant blame them because they are just their hobby but i am disappointed for their lack of consideration. well, lets forget about this.

LookaBomba

2009-01-25, 00:38

NO WAY!!!!!

i would really like it if some1 has a link or download for the alpha patch but maybe im asking 2 much here

and if i cant get any english patch for this game then i will forget about this WHOLE thing

Leiji

2009-01-26, 20:50

well, i do have a patch here.... i don't know if this patch is the correct, but is better than nothing... sry the poor english because i'm from another country.

link to the patch: http://www.4shared.com/file/82678887/ece3d118/shufflepatch.html

LookaBomba

2009-01-26, 21:49

Vexx

2009-01-27, 01:39

Took a look at it... it does appear to be the alpha patch of the translation. Thanks to Leiji.

LookaBomba

2009-01-27, 13:00

yeah it is great job on finding this though the patch is abit screwy but it's better than nothing

Yakumo Fan

2009-02-22, 03:47

And still no news. And I still believe the patch will soon be finished.
Shit, I'm going right now to start learning japaness :/ It'll be quicker i think

Keroko

2009-02-22, 05:39

Question: Is the alpha patch worth the effort of purchasing Shuffle, or is it a half-done patch that leaves much of the game untranslated.

Sian

2009-02-22, 09:00

its only the first two days ... not really that much to cheer for ...

Keroko

2009-02-22, 09:15

Thanks, that saved me from spending money on that game.

Though seriously, if they're not planning to finish the game they could at least release their work so far and let others pick it up.

Gunbladeuser

2009-02-22, 18:26

Thanks, that saved me from spending money on that game.

Though seriously, if they're not planning to finish the game they could at least release their work so far and let others pick it up.
Afaik, the game's translation is already done.
It's only that the datas are lost on most member's hard drives and the only one who's got the complete datas went to Japan. Since then, the communication has been kind of... very, very, very, very... very bad so that it was not possible to bring out the patch.
Well... at least that's what I last heard about this, though I do wonder how long this communication problem has already been going on...

nychi002

2009-02-24, 00:13

Vexx

2009-02-24, 01:56

I believe that's all very old news (including the surgery I think) ... but it does illuminate one of the problems with the Brave New World on the Net. There's no automatic mechanism for people to know your fate if you vanish.

If I exit realspace via a car crash or heart attack tomorrow -- its highly unlikely anyone on the forums, facebook, or in MMOs or other "meetspaces" will ever know what happened (though I do actually know one or two people here in RL, they might be nice enough to let posters know).

Sian

2009-02-24, 02:26

well ... weather it is a problem it an interesting question, since its sometimes is a 'easy way' to leave the site ... would actually be interested to have an extended debate about it in one way or another

demonix

2009-02-24, 07:56

According to the beginning post the website and is domain were paid for for two years. That was two years ago so if they haven't renewed their site or domain that may explain why there's been no new activity on the site. I also heard that they were trying to switch servers due to a server crash that lost data. Lack of communication is a big problem but here's another thing to consider. Last time I checked the website before everything went to hell, there was a message posting about how someone was going into surgery. So maybe they staff has other issues they need to focus on?

Actually if memory serves they also mentioned that they'd put the domain on auto-renewal to avoid what happened to their .se domain (all the head honchos were away and the lease on the domain expired and was never renewed).
Also I believe that the work on the new site is going on slowly considering that I suspect that the servers OS has already been changed (unless it has always been running on Nginx) plus the lease on the domain doesn't expire for another 7 months so it'd be best to keep and eye on the usual whois checkers to see if the domain gets renewed.

DJLowrider

2009-02-27, 08:12

Having played through the game a bit and having a decent grasp on the language, I have to say that if I had an inkling of how to make a patch for the game I'd take a stab at translating it myself. Alas, I have not the knowledge of how to make such a patch.

sora12

2009-02-27, 10:58

is there site is now up? or still welcome nginx?

Dessert

2009-02-27, 14:13

Hello everyone!

So, its been a while hasn't it? Its update time.

Ero-Jiji is alive and well. He is currently stuck in USA waiting on his visa so that he can go back home to Japan. All of the Shuffle files are on his HD at home in Japan, so he does not have access to it. The reason he is still waiting on his visa (He applied for it 6 months ago) is because of the election (thats our best guess) and paperwork is backed up to hell. He has recently gotten his Passport in, hopefully his Visa will be soon to follow. So he is hoping to be able to return home within the next month or two.

The whole surgery thing was my wife and I. We had our baby, and to be honest, life has been hectic since. At 1 month our son had to have surgery for Pyloric Stenosis (google it), we moved in december, and now we are 1 month away from our wedding. I will be completely honest and say that I haven't had much time to get online at all since.

As for the website, our webmaster, Lordi, is working on the site, changing it over to a new system. At the moment, I believe college is catching up and he is focusing most of his time on that, since the website wouldn't do much good until Ero can get back to Japan anyway.

As for the shuffle patch. Yes, all the work is done is done, it just has to be finalized (make sure no files are missing or anything), compiled, and distributed. But as I said, its all inaccessible until EroJiji can go home.

As for the Welcome to NGINX thing, I am supposing that is something that Lordi threw up with the new server system. We will get in touch with him and ask about it, and when we can expect the website to be back up.

So yeah, with Ero stuck in US, me and my wife taking care of our son, and Lordi dealing with college, there is no progress to be made or reported at the moment. GamePatch is still alive and well, we are just having some IRL issues at the moment.

I will keep an eye on the thread, and try and answer any questions you folks may have.

Thank you,
The GamePatch Team

nychi002

2009-02-28, 01:39

Thank You, thank you, thank you, thank you, etc, etc...

sora12

2009-02-28, 06:24

wow at very long last an update from them ^^.

japguy

2009-03-02, 01:39

A little light of hope:]
phew.
the best news this year so far. Now we play the waiting game

Jze0

2009-03-02, 01:53

Thats good news, I thought that this project was no more. At least now theres a little hope. I'll be waiting eagerly, Thanks...

Dessert

2009-03-02, 02:18

Yes, I will admit, all of this waiting is even a little discouraging even to me. But hey, life happens I guess. It just sucks that Ero has been stuck in the US for a year and a half now, while the Shuffle work sits on his hard drive...at home...not turned on...

Blagh! ><

Sian

2009-03-02, 05:32

how can it be that he've been stuck for that long time? ...

nychi002

2009-03-04, 01:07

I have a question. Since we're all waiting for the Shuffle patch to be uploaded what's the stasis for Really Really and Tick Tack? Wasn't game-patch also translating those as well?

DJLowrider

2009-03-04, 10:53

No offense intended to the GamePatch guys here, but considering how long it's taken to hear anything definitive about the status of a patch for Shuffle! I think you could learn enough Japanese to be able to play either of the other games before either would ever (if ever) see a patch.

Besides, of the two only Really? Really! is worth playing. Tick Tack was an enormous disappointment. Tangentially, this continues to baffle me. Nerine's path was fun to play in Shuffle! but her "after" game sucked. Kaede's path in Shuffle! bored me to tears, but her "after" game is awesome. Go fig. :heh:

Dessert

2009-03-04, 11:42

Well, the truth of the matter is, during most of the time you all were waiting on shuffle, so were we (the staff). During that time, Ero-jiji was unable to contact me or any other staffers. I finally got in touch with him July of 2008, and he is currently waiting on his Visa (he recently got his passport, so his visa should be coming soon) so that he can go back home. The only thing he has planned to do in america before going home is to attend mine and my fiance's wedding.

Vexx

2009-03-04, 16:06

.... that's a little confusing "recently got his passport and waiting on visa so he can go back home"...

The only sense I can make of that is that he's an American citizen (which I thought he was anyway) but considers his "home" in Japan or another country. And somehow let his passport expire????

Thanks for the information but you have to admit that sounds a little confusing :)

... and I'll keep my expectations at zero so I can be pleasantly surprised.

sds111

2009-03-04, 22:48

I really love you guys for doing this, a huge undertaking that should be commended; if I were able to give.

Dessert

2009-03-05, 10:58

He is a japanese citizen. But he filed for his new US visa (it had expired) about 6 months ago, because it could take up to 2 years and a lot of hoops to jump through to get a US visa in japan. So he is waiting on that, else he won't be able to come back to the US for a long time.

Vexx

2009-03-05, 13:12

Ah, NOW its clear... yeah, much better to obtain it here - though I'm going to be a bit surprised if they don't give him some shit over letting it expire. :P

Passports and visa people have gotten really insane over the last few years - in a not-constructive way.

Yojimbo108

2009-04-01, 08:03

Thanks for the update!!
Looking forward to the patch :)

David Shigure

2009-04-10, 14:42

Can't wait until its out :)
Is Ero back home yet?

SeetoTheVile

2009-04-12, 23:23

i also can't wait, but more often updates would be much cooler
its fine though, its just kinda rough not know whats going on for years at a time...=/
keeping doing the good job guys, i shall wait patiently

japguy

2009-04-13, 10:40

I thought that we are playing "who-will-first-crumble-and-ask-again-when-will-the-patch-be-finished" ;]
my bad, but still I'm waiting patiently, it's nice having something nice to look forward to^_^

Vexx

2009-04-14, 20:04

Sorry, no one is allowed to ask unless they've been waiting here for at least two-or-more years :) (j/k)

Wrath88

2009-04-15, 06:57

I cope by keeping up with other games... Shuffle still waits in my hard drive for a translation till now. Everyone is hoping...

sora12

2009-04-16, 10:11

my shuffle is already full of dust hahaha.

Vexx

2009-04-16, 11:56

My copy sits on a high shelf in the back.... yeah, dust bunnies.

Ratiasu

2009-04-25, 15:44

great to hear an update at least

Adryanmh

2009-04-29, 03:53

hehe can't wait to appear. Thx for the update .

heklin

2009-05-01, 21:54

i dont have alot of time at the moment, but yes, im alive, and yes i intend to get shuffle out as soon as i can, when i get some free time ill post an update as to what exactly has happened since i dissapeared and what the current situation is

to be honest im suprised most people havent just flat out given up on the project, its people like you that are the reason the game will be released no matter the personal cost!

edit: to all the people that have left me msgs, ill reply to you shortly, sorting through a full inbox is a pita.......

sora12

2009-05-02, 00:41

nice, heklin had replied ^^.

Sian

2009-05-02, 06:22

*cheers and tosses cookies after Heklin*

David Shigure

2009-05-03, 11:46

Yay xD
Go heklin!! :)

DeotoxSlayer

2009-05-03, 12:19

Heklin is alive, yay:D:D:D:D

I'm glad I didn't give up hope. I guess that means we'll get Shuffle eventually, even if we don't get Tick! Tack!.

I'm happy and its great to know that your still working on the project.

I look forward to news at a later date.

EDIT: This reminds me is the gamepatch site still down???

EdenB

2009-05-04, 10:39

EDIT: This reminds me is the gamepatch site still down???

It seems to be, though it's recently changed to having PHPMyAdmin now, instead of the black writing from before.

Let's hope he's in the same country as the files, now.

Wrath88

2009-05-05, 05:07

Perhaps Vexx's copy will be shedding its dust bunnies soon. :D
Honestly speaking... I've always been looking forward to this. Learning Japanese is slow going for me.

Vexx

2009-05-05, 17:51

The game-novel Shuffle! requires a level of Japanese I haven't quite mustered yet. I can pretty much read Yotsubato without jumping for a dictionary more than once a page or so but the written text in Shuffle is designed for the 'nearly adult' age group (fair mess of kanji).

Redlar

2009-05-06, 00:32

I think Heklin was typing on a phone with that post; with luck, he's back in Japan by now.

Vexx

2009-05-06, 00:49

Now we have to hope no one was using his hard drive as a magnet holder.... :P

fl4r3

2009-05-10, 16:04

Hey wants up guys i just joined after reading almost all of the 11 pages in this topic. I recently found the anime Shuffle and through research found the game. i keep clicking on the game parch website to see the updates or download the english patch but it brings me to a php my admin page with a log in page. i dont know the log in and dont think i can register. can anyone help me out? is there a finished patch or even a partly finished patch that i could download? or has it been dropped?

Vexx

2009-05-11, 00:08

... maybe you should reread the 11 pages. The answers to every single question and its current status are all there.

Plus.... "found the game" kind of implies you didn't purchase it. :P I'll suggest you reading the forum rules before proceeding any farther?

Adryanmh

2009-05-11, 17:12

Readed the whole 11 pages and you do not know the answers of the questions? lol.
i agree with vexx reread it! still can't wait for the patch finally to be released. My shuffle is waiting for a long time. Maybe not as much as the others 2-3 yrs, but 1 year at least i think i waited :). I'm very glad to see some updates. Thx again for the update ^^.

sora12

2009-05-12, 06:41

people who has high hopes and faith on the translators are worthy to stay here.

mastapsi

2009-05-27, 16:59

It's good to see this project is coming back to life. I eagerly await the release of the patch.

sora12

2009-05-28, 05:47

need updates on this T_T

ZeikJT

2009-05-28, 14:06

need updates on this T_T

Whoa calm down. I actually registered just to tell you to wait patiently... I've been waiting for it too but you don't see me whining.

Sit tight, go play some other games, and hope for the best.
Go watch an anime or read a manga or something if other games don't interest you.

I haven't been this excited for a game in a while though, this is gonna be great.

eddyak

2009-05-28, 19:27

I realise this is probably (no, not probably- REALLY early to ask), but...

Are you guys planning to work on any other games once you're done with Shuffle? Or have you gone off the whole "translating visual novels" business?

David Shigure

2009-06-06, 05:43

If I were them, after the pain they had to go through to get Shuffle! done, I'd commend them for even attempting Tick Tack and Really Really...

But if they could, it be incredible...

sora12

2009-06-08, 00:18

well yeah but it would be better if they release the patch for shuffle XD>

Xalathal

2009-06-08, 11:40

Well, it would be better if we could have updates with less days between them..

Vexx

2009-06-08, 11:59

2.3 Do not ask when episodes will be released

You are not permitted to ask when episodes will be released. Shows are released once the fansub group is finished with them. All your whining will do is irritate the group's staff and make them leave the scene. That will mean even slower releases or none at all. Please have some patience.
This rule covers whining about speed of release of any fan activity. This patch is primarily a single fan's activity. No release date or timeline was ever promised. As the rule say, all your whining will accomplish is to piss off those who are actually doing the work.

Some of us have been waiting for THREE YEARS for this patch. Many of us have offered to help. So sit down, have a cup of tea, and go on with life til (and IF) it happens.

Sian

2009-06-08, 12:15

stuff happens when stuff happens ... its unlikely that anything you can do will make it go faster, but likely that it'll go slower :p

sora12

2009-06-08, 22:47

lol, we are all just the same waiting here for yrs haha. well i hope they have a good luck.

troqu

2009-06-09, 01:14

I just wanted to say thanks for the poeple (and mostly heklin himself) who posted updates in this thread. When the site went down however many months ago I just figured I would wait for it to come back up. When I saw my copy of shuffle sitting alone and dejected on my shelf I went to search the net for info and came across this thread.

Anywho thanks a bunch. Also some of you should really learn to be patient. We've all waited this long, I'm sure we can all wait a while longer.

Redlar

2009-06-10, 05:19

spawnofthejudge

2009-06-10, 07:22

Actually, they apparently started working on a Tick! Tack! translation already. No idea where that's going though, seeing as they haven't finished Shuffle! yet.

There've been some minor changes to their website, though it still has no Shuffle- or group-related content at all.

I thought the reason they didn't have Shuffle out is because it's sitting on a computer that the owner's away from. That doesn't seem to be a good reason to not do something else. Where did you hear they were working on Tick! Tack!, though?

Redlar

2009-06-13, 08:02

It was an old news post on their site, before it got wiped out. So the info's 2 years old...

Vexx

2009-06-14, 00:38

Many people start a project like this with good intentions but the true *scale* of the adventure catches them off-guard. Matters become even worse if they're perfectionists and won't delegate :) Then real life often puts an end to them.

There used to be a website that kept track of all the eroge translation projects (and many of them that were labeled "lost in limbo") but I've lost that bookmark somewhere along the way.

Sian

2009-06-14, 11:15

Vexx : http://shii.org/translate/

Vexx

2009-06-14, 21:16

ah thanks for the link.... (adds back to bookmarks)

izmosmolnar

2009-06-15, 06:56

Vexx.
I also recommend bookmarking the main Visual Novel TL wiki (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page), because IMHO it's more reliable, and a bit more up-to-date.
The completed VN TL list is HERE (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Category:Completed_Visual_Novel_Pr ojects), and the translated Doujin games are HERE (http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Category:Visual_Novel_Projects). Both accessible from the navigation option on the side.
That's also by no means the most accurate and up to date (Cross Channel, The Devil on G-String on top of my head for example), but it's still good.

siber222000

2009-06-26, 07:44

any tutorial for this game just wondering?

Sute443

2009-06-27, 13:07

any tutorial for this game just wondering?

You mean a guide that says which choices to make for which routes? This one (http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/file/921323/40442) is pretty good. You'll have to set your view to display Japanese characters if you want to read what the decisions are (assuming you can read Japanese characters), but even if you can't read the decisions, it will still tell you which ones to take.

Redlar

2009-07-01, 04:39

There was someone who did some translating on 4chan awhile back. Any updates from that person, so we can read past Day 3?

KoiNoDensetsu

2009-07-02, 19:06

Shuffle is (apparently) now licensed by MangaGamer. People at the Otakuism forum (http://www.otakuism.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6115&sid=ab473a8cc79a3ec2f53fe90b3f90f72d) claim that MangaGamer has Shuffle banners at their booth. Higurashi is also (supposedly) licensed as well.

Can anyone else claim this?

Ugh, I'm really excited, but why MangaGamer? I hate their DRM and "no packaging" crap. If they could get this, then so could JAST get other high quality titles.

Let's just hope that they got Essence+!

(maybe, just maybe, they will eventually get things like Kiminozo and School Days...)

relentlessflame

2009-07-02, 20:59

If they could get this, then so could JAST get other high quality titles.I think it's a different business model. It seems like MangaGamer is just a group of Japanese companies working together as a side-project, so they're probably getting access to these titles without paying any licensing fees. In exchange, the original company probably keeps a substantial portion of any money raised, plus is making a sort of "investment" in the future of the English market for these sorts of works. So I think their access to these titles is only because they're doing this "from the inside" and as an inter-company pet project. Jast, as an outsider, would probably have to pay royalties under the traditional licensing model.

So anyway, I assume we'll hear more at both the Jast and MangaGamer panels over the weekend.

Redlar

2009-07-02, 21:35

relentlessflame

2009-07-02, 22:25

From what I've seen and heard, it looks like Mangagamer is more into licensing Shuffle products than actually bringing the game over. Maybe they're just using the Shuffle name and images as promotional material for their business?

If that's not the case and they've actually licensed the game (unlikely), has Gamepatch said what they'd do if the game got licensed?

Mangagamer Ad/Flyer (http://www.uberness.com/images/IMG_0817.jpg)Well, actually, I think it is most likely that they have licensed the game (so to speak) especially since the flyer lists Navel as one the MangaGamer partner studios. This supports what I said above re: it not really being a license in the traditional sense if the Studio is partnered in the endeavour. (In other words, it's a "zero cost" license.) Besides, other than the games, what other products are there when you don't actually ship any physical products?

So, anyway, yeah -- we'll see what they say at their panel, but I think it's virtually assured that they're going to try to bring out the game. And I'm assuming that if they do license it for distribution, there's not really much point in continuing work on the fan translation...? In either case, we wouldn't talk about it on AnimeSuki any more. If/once the license is confirmed, I'll close this thread.

troqu

2009-07-03, 03:31

This is interesting and I'd like to see how it turns out. I bought the game a few years back but I'd love to have an official translation (admittedly the number of visual novels I actually get a chance to buy is limited but Shuffle is something that is worth it).

Redlar

2009-07-03, 06:16

Well, at least we've got some news on progress with a Shuffle translation, if not the one we were waiting...what, 4 years for? I guess all our waiting was kind of not in vain after all. Though we're still waiting for information on the Tick!Tack! translation... :upset:

But I guess I'm going to have to shell out some more money for an official English version now to replace my Japanese copy. Not looking forward to that. Oh, wait, what about those ECOS regulations that were just put out? Isn't there something about not portraying loli's, schoolgirl's, and non-humans in them? Would Mangagamer follow those regulations, or just go over to the other body, since they rely on digital distribution?

relentlessflame

2009-07-03, 17:57

Oh, wait, what about those ECOS regulations that were just put out? Isn't there something about not portraying loli's, schoolgirl's, and non-humans in them? Would Mangagamer follow those regulations, or just go over to the other body, since they rely on digital distribution?Nah, there's nothing in the regulations we've seen so far about schoolgirls or non-humans (though, of course, All Characters Are 18 Years of Age or Older), so I think a character like Primula will still be okay. There's been a lot of things being thrown out there in the last few weeks, but we'll see what happens when things settle down. In any case, I don't think a game like Shuffle will be greatly impacted, if at all.

heklin

2009-07-05, 02:00

i will answer most of the questions you guys have in the morning, just left ax (yes i went to the panel, and even tried to talk to some of the staff at the mangagamers booth) as well as explain clearly what has been going on with me, gamepatch, and shuffle.

troqu

2009-07-05, 03:41

Ooo interesting. Nice to see you're doing ok.

heklin

2009-07-05, 12:57

ok, this will be rather long, but please bear with me.

first off: the reason for my dissapearance after AX in 06

when AX ended, i planned to fly home, pick up a few things, and fly back to help my
"irc adopted" kids matt and hope move (aka dessert and kittykyo),then visit a few
friends, return home, and send the finalized scripts to the rest of the staff for
closed testing with a release shortly after if we had no problems. however, things
didnt go quite as planned. normally i would ship whatever i was bringing over ahead
of time and pick it up when i got here, however, on this occasion i didnt have the
time to do it, so i simply loaded up my luggage with the manga's and doujinshi i had
picked up to fulfill requests of some friends and jumped back on the plane. i arrived
at LA int. airport with no problems, however, while going through security i got
pulled to the side, and held for about 4 hours with no explanation of what was going
on. next thing i know im being arrested for possesion of child pornogrophy (CP) and
am carted off to jail (which is why i was unable to contact anyone, since my phone
and everything else was confiscated, i wasnt even able to contact dessert and let him
know what was going on).

it wasnt until i went to court 3 days later that the reason they charged me was for
the doujinshi i had brought back with me (vol 1-4 of comic lo, vol 1-7 of comic rin,
komoe anthology 1-5, and shonen ai no bigaku 1-8, as well as random other doujins, 42
in total) and that i was being charged with 900+ counts of possesion of CP with
intent to distibute. after about 8 months of fighting the charges hopeing to get them
dismissed (at the time, manga was still a grey area in the new laws)i was given the
offer of a pleabargain to drop the charges in exchange for pleading guilty to tax
evasion, which after some thought i decided to take and was sentenced to 16 months
jail time and parole. the manga's i had with me were all to be destroyed, and my
personal effects (like my computer and other stuff i had with me) were sent to my
home back in akita. i finished my sentence and was released on parole with no
problems, however a stipulation of my parole was i was not to be around computer
equipment, anime, or manga for the duration, and my parole officer randomly checked
up on me to verify it.

it wasnt until late 08 that dessert was able to get ahold of me through a friend and found out what was going on, and i asked him not to spread details around ( for obvious reasons i didnt want the general public knowing i had been arrested for CP)

that brings us to my current issue. while i was in jail, my japanese visa expired, along with my passport (at the time i had no clue that they did since you dont exactly get to keep that stuff when yer in jail >< ) so after my release i started the renewal proccess. with all the homeland security shit, and the upcoming election, as well as now having a criminal record, it took almost 7 months to get my passport reissued, however, i am still having issues with getting a visa and being able to go home. my request for renewal was denied due to my new criminal record, and i have to get it expunged from my record before i can re-apply for a visa.

and thats where i am at now, going through the proccess for the expungement (my hearing is in oct) to allow me to get my new visa and return home.

now to address the shuffle issue

as dessert had said before, the only complete copy of the scripts is currently sitting on the computer that was shipped home. ( i now realize that having only one storage for a complete project like that was a bad idea) through staff and other members of the channel, we were able to recover parts of the script, engine, graphics etc, about 1/3rd of all the files. since it looks like its going to be awhile i am planning on picking up with what we have available, and redoing the remaining work needed before release.

shuffle WILL be released

to me, it doesnt matter that mangagamer has (or will, at this point its not clear) started a translation of the game

there are a few reasons for my decision, first of all being all the people that bought a physical copy of the original game (mangagamer is a download site, you get nothing other than a digital download)next is the fact that i want to keep the game story as close to the original as possible, which most companies dont do when they do a commercial translation.probably the biggest reason is my personal commitment to the entire shuffle line of games(yes, i still plan to do tick tack, really really, etc, as well as possibly the novels)

as for the website, i havent been able to get ahold of the staffmember who is currently handling everything, so i know about as much as whats going on with it as you guys do, however, if i cant contact him this week, i will look into at least getting a forum up somewhere.

so yea, its been a pretty rough ride for gamepatch these last few years, but we arent dead and buried yet. i cant thank the people who have stuck with this so long enough,so the only thing i can do to say thanks is get the patch out!

if you have any questins, you can either drop me a message here on asuki, or swing by the irc channel, #gamepatch on irc.rizon.net and leave me a message there.i now have full time access to a computer so i will be doing updates alot more often.

troqu

2009-07-05, 13:16

It's nice to finally know the whole story, even if it is a shitty one. Forgive me for my ignorance but don't you know anyone back in Akita that could go to your computer, get the hard drive that has the script and send it to you?

GDAM

2009-07-05, 13:17

I love how you popped up out of nowhere just after the announcement.

What convenient timing.

heklin

2009-07-05, 13:25

I love how you popped up out of nowhere just after the announcement.

What convenient timing.

actually, i posted not long ago saying that i would give an update soon, i just didnt have a chance to do it before AX (see post 192.... and read before you bash people)( not having access to a comp is a bitch)

@trogu - at this time, no, at least noone i would trust with access to my house, altho i do have a friend who will be visiting for comiket in dec as a last resort, we will probably just redo the work instead of waiting that long since there really isnt any garuntee that the comp is there. they shipped it back, but i really dont have a clue whats happened to it after that. i dont know if a neighbor signed for it, or if they just left the stuff by the door etc

troqu

2009-07-05, 15:51

Fair enough. Well as I said not so long ago, I haven't given up waiting yet and now is definitely not the time.

DeotoxSlayer

2009-07-05, 15:53

actually, i posted not long ago saying that i would give an update soon, i just didnt have a chance to do it before AX (see post 192.... and read before you bash people)( not having access to a comp is a bitch)

@trogu - at this time, no, at least noone i would trust with access to my house, altho i do have a friend who will be visiting for comiket in dec as a last resort, we will probably just redo the work instead of waiting that long since there really isnt any garuntee that the comp is there. they shipped it back, but i really dont have a clue whats happened to it after that. i dont know if a neighbor signed for it, or if they just left the stuff by the door etc

You got arrested that sucks.

Anyways it's good to see that your free and okay now and I feel really bad that something like this happened to you.

I'm glad to see that your still planning on releasing the patch and that you still plan on translating Tick Tack and really Really. though it sucks that you have to retranslate shuffle.

Sooooooooo, on another note any chance you may translate Shuffle Essense+???

heklin

2009-07-05, 15:59

at this point i want to concentrate solely on shuffle and tt, since we already have tools/imagework/codeing etc done tho i personally would like todo all games in the shuffle universe, we will se how things go once we complete what we started

Lvrhina

2009-07-05, 16:08

Almost the same taste for doujinshi. lol

holyman282

2009-07-05, 19:58

omg heklin long time no see. Does that mean they have allowed you back on the computer and anime? I feel really bad for you but hopefully you still remember a few ppl from gamepatch in the old days like me lol.

Redlar

2009-07-06, 00:17

Oh wow. Now this is just awesome news.

Though it sucks that you got arrested. You must've had a tough judge or a bad lawyer. How can they have jurisdiction over you if you're a Japanese citizen? It should've been tossed out right there.

heklin

2009-07-06, 01:50

thats part of my problem, im not officially a japanese citizen yet, i had only gotten a resedency visa, and was in the proccess of applying for citizenship, which takes several years to get in japan

Dessert

2009-07-06, 17:01

DeotoxSlayer

2009-07-06, 18:02

Yeah, so now everyone knows whats going on.

As for the MangaGamer thing. I went to try to talk to them a few times, nobody from navel was there, and they refused to give official word whether Shuffle has been licensed or not. Also, during the Bishoujo game panel, they didn't mention navel or shuffle at all really, from what I heard (I was unfortunately unable to make it).

Either way, we will still be releasing shuffle as GamePatch intends. If anyone was able to try the demo on MangaGamer CD's that they gave out....Needless to say its HORRIBLE. A friendly booth at Anime Expo was playing the GamePatch Alpha Patch and humiliating them with it, twas awesome. ^_^

As for a forum, I am looking into getting one set up, and may actually be locally hosting it this time, to avoid problems with crappy hosts etc.

I wasn't really expecting the transaltions by Mangagamer to be good but I can't believe its that horrible.

The only thing that Mangagamer will have going for them is probably uncensored CGs which is nice and all but its not as important as good translations, so i don't really see any point in buying there version when i can get a superior version from you guys.

@Heklin

So do you have to restart the translation for Shuffle(not counting the 3 days in the alpha patch)?