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cmage
2007-04-17, 10:26
I've been wondering about something. Lucky Star is a parody of moe, but in doing that, it practically becomes moe itself. What happens when people appreciate it merely as something with moe instead of finding humor in making fun of an excess of moe? I'm frankly getting a little scared of the fanboys and am wondering if I'll have to vacate from excess of moe. :uhoh:

Back to something that was talked about earlier. My favorite characters are Konata and Kagami. Konata has that otaku-ness about her that resonates with me, along with the gamer tendencies. I might not be one, but my brother's enough of one for me to appreciate the type. And I like Konata because she seems down to earth. I love how she acts during Miyuki's conversation with Tsukasa when she's sick. Beautiful. :heh:

Level E
2007-04-17, 10:35
I disagree with the Character Development.
Ms. Someone, after X amount of years, learns she has classmates :p

And then there's the escalating(?) trial of poor poor Hikage-chan... Ganba! :heh:

Deathkillz
2007-04-17, 11:05
I've been wondering about something. Lucky Star is a parody of moe, but in doing that, it practically becomes moe itself. What happens when people appreciate it merely as something with moe instead of finding humor in making fun of an excess of moe? I'm frankly getting a little scared of the fanboys and am wondering if I'll have to vacate from excess of moe. :uhoh:

i think most people here would notice the extra amount of moeness being put into the eps to push it into the latter opinion...and its just natural that there are bound to be fanboys about watching a series like this ~ it could even be an intentional trap that we are all falling into :heh:

Vibeke
2007-04-17, 11:05
There is a strange amount of win about this one... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPartZH1RY0) :twitch: :twitch: :twitch:

:twitch:

Pure WIN! :heh:

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-17, 11:18
I've been wondering about something. Lucky Star is a parody of moe, but in doing that, it practically becomes moe itself. What happens when people appreciate it merely as something with moe instead of finding humor in making fun of an excess of moe? I'm frankly getting a little scared of the fanboys and am wondering if I'll have to vacate from excess of moe. :uhoh:


I think a lot of people are doing the latter already. It's not as visibile as one might think and since a LOT of people can't or don't want to see past the top most layer of things (young teenagers mostly), they will not see that its making fun of Moe and will take it at face value. If you think the people here are engaging in Fanboy like behaviour, don't go anywhere else on the internet that talks about this series.

Asrialys
2007-04-17, 11:32
It was bound to happen... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMWHnD_ND-0)

Hope it wasn't mentioned already...

cmage
2007-04-17, 11:35
It was bound to happen... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMWHnD_ND-0)

Hope it wasn't mentioned already...

I've been waiting for one of those. Better than the one for HHY, IMO. :D

Asrialys
2007-04-17, 11:40
I found the link from moetron's blog (http://www.moetron.com/2007/04/17/lucky%e2%98%86star-gunpla-ver/). There are other videos (including the Michael Jackson one), but they're mainly remixes of sorts.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-17, 11:49
I've been waiting for one of those. Better than the one for HHY, IMO. :D

The Hare Hare Yukai one was absolutely required. It only fit at certain parts and the rest just barely fit. That and they started partway through and cut off before it ended. Still as I said absolutely required. You must attach Hare Hare Yukai to any video possible, for example I've seen a Hokuto No Ken one where it doesn't even make sense. That was part of the reason I got so tired of Haruhi when it aired. I couldn't find any opening video on the internet without half the time ending up on a Hare Hare Yukai song (unlabelled I might add) ending up playing over the real opening. In fact my first experience with the HnK opening was that. I was forced to hear that song so many times over last summer I know it off by heart and I don't even like it.

Besides Sailor Fuku is a much better song than Hare Hare Yukai I find because it has more passion, so it doesn't even bother me. Too much nasal on Aya Hirano during Hare Hare Yukai that she seems to have ditched completely as of late. Now its just Muuuuuuuuuuu!

Sailor Fuku Lolicon Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zzTlo86tE) for those who want to here the song another time. Obligatory Crossover with Concurrent Show (Sort of) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgb0lo-c5J0). Somebody thinks the opening is Touhou 9 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdB8pP4gB0s). How you confuse a video with a shooting game I'm not sure. Rock On (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIA_KBF95Lo) with poor timing (And the other way around as this time its Lucky Star getting the song played over it). What the steps would actually look like (maybe) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxXUVAMFNw).

DragoonKain3
2007-04-17, 12:03
^ I really have no idea if what you said has any connection with the gundam dancing video the person you quoted from was talking about, lol. XD


In anycase, loved the gundam video. Most especially during the chorus, where's there's a whole bunch of them. Looks really nice, if I do say so myself, especially when all 16(?) mechas kicked in the air together.

My only criticism is that the main girls were representive differently from each other. They could've used different gundam models at least for each of the main characters, no?

cmage
2007-04-17, 12:05
Sailor Fuku Lolicon Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8zzTlo86tE) for those who want to here the song another time. Obligatory Crossover with Concurrent Show (Sort of) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgb0lo-c5J0).

You're trying to kill me with that lolicon! *hides*

Now that you mentioned the million HHY parodies, I saw the Sailor Fuku with HHY on top of it. :rolleyes: Couldn't stand to watch more than a few seconds of it.

Fortunately, Sailor Fuku hasn't gotten old yet, so I can watch that Gundam parody on repeat. It might not be that great of an OP for dance parodies, but there's enough movement that I'm entertained by the Gundams. :)

^ I really have no idea if what you said has any connection with the gundam dancing video the person you quoted from was talking about, lol. XD


In anycase, loved the gundam video. Most especially during the chorus, where's there's a whole bunch of them. Looks really nice, if I do say so myself.

My only criticism is that the main girls were representive differently from each other. They could've used different gundam models at least for each of the main characters, no?

Kaioshin lost me. :heh:

I really like when the main girls are dancing randomly and the shots for the supporting characters. I get such a kick out of the Gundam used for the pervert. And of course I like the cheerleaders. They move so well together!

double post :(

kenjiharima
2007-04-17, 12:09
Konata's Temptation.


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/MagicalKanan/konatastudy.gif

TnAdct1
2007-04-17, 12:14
Negima parody of Lucky Star: http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a234/TnAdct1/mahosuta.jpg

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-17, 12:16
^ I really have no idea if what you said has any connection with the gundam dancing video the person you quoted from was talking about, lol. XD


In anycase, loved the gundam video. Most especially during the chorus, where's there's a whole bunch of them. Looks really nice, if I do say so myself, especially when all 16(?) mechas kicked in the air together.

My only criticism is that the main girls were representive differently from each other. They could've used different gundam models at least for each of the main characters, no?

HHY One=Hare Hare Yukai one. Does anybody notice this? Normally Konata's hair goes down to about her knee, but in the cheerleading sequence in the opening its so long its practically touching the ground (Much hotter). Apparentely the GP-02A Physallis is representative of the night sky as well. There are other units in the opening such as a Dom and the Gundam, but I guess they chose to use the GM Command for all the girls. I don't know if it was just the closest thing he could fin to a school girl.

cmage
2007-04-17, 12:19
HHY One=Hare Hare Yukai one. Does anybody notice this? Normally Konata's hair goes down to about her knee, but in the cheerleading sequence in the opening its so long its practically touching the ground (Much hotter). Apparentely the GP-02A Physallis is representative of the night sky as well. There are other units in the opening such as a Dom and the Gundam, but I guess they chose to use the GM Command for all the girls. I don't know if it was just the closest thing he could fin to a school girl.

I figured they used the same model for the girls 'cause they're all in uniform. Maybe they ran out of models to use?

Samatarou
2007-04-17, 12:21
Never got that whole "Win" idea. If something wins doesn't that mean all other instances of that thing lose. If something wins that means there also needs to be a competition
Not nessecelery. You can have a win-win situation.
As for the second point, you’re walking down the street and you find a coin. It feels like you just won something. The fact that you didn’t even have to enter a competition is an extra bonus. When people talk about a win, I think they mean that feeling: something good happened without them having to work to get, they didn’t even have to go looking for it, it just happened like someone giving you a prize.

Kyuusai
2007-04-17, 12:22
Never got that whole "Win" idea. If something wins doesn't that mean all other instances of that thing lose. If something wins that means there also needs to be a competition, but is there really a competition? Who lost then? Does that mean all the other things that won before with Lucky Star now lose? Hmmmmmm..... these thoughts have been brought to you by the confused philosopher. (That's me by the way).

An alternate, more specific permutation of the saying is to say that something is "made of win", which is what is implied by saying that something "is win". That is, to say, it has the properties which could potentially make it a winner. In what competition? Well, much like saying "For The Win", it is ambiguous, but it is an acceptable ambiguity, I think.

Like Vexx, I use it with a hint of irony, but the more common use of it doesn't bug me. It's much like saying something is "cool".

I personally like to say "made of win and candy." :D

On to the more relevant topic of character development in 4koma... who's to say it can't happen? It's certainly true that it doesn't TEND to happen, but it can. American comic strips have the same issues: Beetle Bailey hasn't really had character development, and many think it's stagnated. Then again, some comic strips DO have character development, but the risk is becoming too dramatic and turning into Funky Winkerbean, and nobody wants that (http://shortpacked.com/d/20070416.html). Garfield hit rock bottom in its decades without change, and now it's trying to change things slowly and subtly--which it used to do when it was still fresh.

In 4koma, slow and subtle character development seems to be the case in the best examples we have. Take, for example (you know what's coming), Azumanga Daioh. Subtle is definitely the key word there. We don't notice how the characters change so much as we notice the events that will change them and the changes in their relationships. Tomo is still Tomo and Osaka is still Osaka, but who's annoying who by the end? Chiyo is still cute child prodigy, but she goes from being the novelty to the heart of the group, supporting every one.

What of character development in Lucky Star? I don't know, since I haven't read very far in the manga. It doesn't seem to be setting itself up for the opportunity, but considering how much has yet to be shown, I think that could change.

Samatarou
2007-04-17, 12:42
Are the whole Lucky☆gang left-handed?
Nice catch there!

A quick review of ep.2 reveals that in one scene Kona-chan is eating right handed, and Tsukasa’s dad eats right handed but all his daughters are eating left handed as well as writing left handed. The sensei is also left-handed. Classmates in the background are right handed. The handedness of the main charas is pretty consistent including using left hand to point etc., except with Kona-chan who as someone noted seems to be ambidextrous.

My first thought is that one of the animators may have been using themself as a model, looking in a mirror to get the hands right, and forgot to reverse the results. This is very tempting when you’re drawing a person who is drawing or writing since your own hands are already in the right pose and you can just copy them, I’ve certainly done this myself. The fact that only some of the characters are like this doesn’t really say anything either way since several artists are probably working on the scenes, especially the foreground and background characrters are likely to be different, I imagine some lead person is going to be doing keyframes for the main characters but leaving the minor characters (blue-tinted classmates) to someone else. It will be interesting to see if the handedness continues or becomes a plot point. (Even if it is a slip-up I imagine that once noticed they’d probably stick to it, as a little win)

Edit: I just wanted to add that I wouldn’t normally see the depiction of left-handedness noteworthy but the fact that Japan has a history of suppressing lefthandedness makes an anime full of left-handed characters something of a curiosity.

Vexx
2007-04-17, 14:14
Damn man, you bringin' us to philosophy 101 or somethin'?
...

My mere 2 cents.

Actually, you *have* wandered into philosophy 101 or some esoteric wonderland. Some of these forums carry on conversations with a substantially diverse level of complexity and banter :)
(refers to The Ontology of Suzumiya Haruhi thread for a poster-child example)

Pellissier
2007-04-17, 14:57
Pachi Pachi Pachi.

I used this avatar, screaming moeness from every side, for a couple of days because it was funny, but I can't betray my Matsuri after all :)

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1971/luckystar2akira1ho8.gif

First come, first served - if anyone interested.

So far I only watched the subbed part of Lucky Channel (priceless) for episode 2, but I surfed through the entire episode and on the whole it looks better than the first, because there's more "movement", it's no more a blah-blah-blah in the classroom as most of episode 1, but the characters actually do something this time.
I guess this is the direction for the show, and nevertheless, once that the new characters will be introduced, it will be even more interesting. I'm particularly looking forward to Patricia Martin's debut, since she's voiced by what I deem to be the moeest voice I've ever heard, Sasaki Nozomi.

Vexx
2007-04-17, 15:51
yeah.. I almost died from the cuteness factor when bipolar Akira clapped.

must stay focused on Konata-chan (with the hair and stature she's basically a caricature of She Who Must Be Obeyed in my home.... though Kona is a lot calmer... my wife takes after much noisier archetypes; personality-wise she's much closer to Kagami)

bloodmoon0011
2007-04-17, 16:05
A friend of mine just showed me this series today... Lemme guess, this series is so new that there isn't even a full version of the opening yet? Dammit I need it, lol. It's just so... Catchy. Anyway, anyone know when the full version will be released?

cmage
2007-04-17, 16:24
A friend of mine just showed me this series today... Lemme guess, this series is so new that there isn't even a full version of the opening yet? Dammit I need it, lol. It's just so... Catchy. Anyway, anyone know when the full version will be released?

Should be out May 23rd. Until then I'll just have to loop it.

Meophist
2007-04-17, 16:38
It really looks like I'm the only person who doesn't like the Lucky Channel portion of the show. Love the rest though.

Skyfall
2007-04-17, 16:44
Well, i liked ep2 better than the 1st one. It had more... stuff... happening and felt more alive. I hope this keeps up. Though i think they could do without the lucky channel - while the one in ep1 was somewhat funny, this time around it bored me.

cmage
2007-04-17, 16:47
I don't like Lucky Channel as much as the rest, but granted I've only seen the first episode. Just seems unconnected, and I don't love the moe within it or find it especially hilarious.

Deathkillz
2007-04-17, 17:03
and ep 2 keeps the ball rolling :D
its great to see the random cracks and quite amazing how it doesnt get old at all XD when kona made her "laughing face" it was pretty normal but the way the other expressed it gave a great impact on how the viewers will interprate it...and on that note i think the way Tsukasa struggled to manage her study time table was spot on with reality (for me anyways :heh:)

and seeing kagami wasting money...lawl XD

edit: oh and that sia poster...nice one! :3

Vexx
2007-04-17, 17:09
Watching Tsukasa vs Kagami in the study arena.. pretty much describes my wife and I in our college days (she being Kagami and me being well-meaning but doomed by ADD)... you'd have to add a splash of Kona to mine though as I'd usually just wing a test by the skin of my teeth and pull through.

Meophist
2007-04-17, 17:11
Watching Tsukasa vs Kagami in the study arena.. pretty much describes my wife and I in our college days (she being Kagami and me being well-meaning but doomed by ADD)... you'd have to add a splash of Kona to mine though as I'd usually just wing a test by the skin of my teeth and pull through.
Sounds like me.

Anime Online
2007-04-17, 17:26
when kona made her "laughing face" it was pretty normal but the way the other expressed it gave a great impact on how the viewers will interprate it.


I don't think it was shown to the viewers what face Konata made, because if you are referring to this one

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2364/konata02pd8.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konata02pd8.jpg)

then Konata had already made it while announcing the game

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6915/konata01fh4.th.jpg (http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konata01fh4.jpg)

Ashlotte
2007-04-17, 17:50
Geez this show is random, but in a strangely normal way which is abit of a feat. I mean its pretty easy to do a pani-poni thing and throw out aliens or some such and produce :eyebrow: moments, but so far its all been within a slightly normal context lol.

Lucky channel is the funniest part of the show for me still though...Bi-polar never looked so adorable. :heh:

krln99
2007-04-17, 17:57
Judging from the intro, it looks like they'll eventually introduce the "junior" (kouhai) class to the series, which has Konata's cousin (who pretty much functions as her little sister, since they live together), Yutaka - the really little girl with short red hair, and Minami - the girl with green hair, and Hiyori - the girl with glasses and long black/brown hair.

Daniel E.
2007-04-17, 18:39
It really looks like I'm the only person who doesn't like the Lucky Channel portion of the show. Love the rest though.

Dont let that worry you too much; We all have our own personal likes and dislikes.

Along those lines, I am probably among the few posting here that doesn't like the intro music all that much. :p

Lucky Channel is the most funny part for me though. :D

celcius
2007-04-17, 18:56
More Kagami from Kagami's fan~ It's a Sony Ericsson theme, specifically for w810. xD
http://xs114.xs.to/xs114/07163/Untitled-2.png (http://xs.to)
Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/26561524/Hiiragi_Kagami2.rar.html

Ascaloth
2007-04-17, 21:39
HHY One=Hare Hare Yukai one. Does anybody notice this? Normally Konata's hair goes down to about her knee, but in the cheerleading sequence in the opening its so long its practically touching the ground (Much hotter). Apparentely the GP-02A Physallis is representative of the night sky as well. There are other units in the opening such as a Dom and the Gundam, but I guess they chose to use the GM Command for all the girls. I don't know if it was just the closest thing he could fin to a school girl.

Caught it before you did, pal. But apparently no one else noticed Konata going Tsuruya-san, so meh.

And the plamo vid was great, but I kinda wished he used G Gundam's Noble Gundam (http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/fc/mechanics/mf_nobel.html) as the model instead. Fits better, yes?

Garfield hit rock bottom in its decades without change, and now it's trying to change things slowly and subtly--which it used to do when it was still fresh.


I wouldn't call Jon finally getting a girlfriend 'subtle'. :uhoh:

Vexx
2007-04-17, 21:48
Oooh.... sorry, Haruhi --- .... actually I like the muted tones of this one.

More Kagami from Kagami's fan~ It's a Sony Ericsson theme, specifically for w810. xD
http://xs114.xs.to/xs114/07163/Untitled-2.png (http://xs.to)
Link: http://rapidshare.com/files/26561524/Hiiragi_Kagami2.rar.html

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-17, 21:52
Caught it before you did, pal. But apparently no one else noticed Konata going Tsuruya-san, so meh.

And the plamo vid was great, but I kinda wished he used G Gundam's Noble Gundam (http://www.gundamofficial.com/worlds/fc/mechanics/mf_nobel.html) as the model instead. Fits better, yes?



I wouldn't call Jon finally getting a girlfriend 'subtle'. :uhoh:

Nobel Gundam actually. Noble is the American name and totally unnecessary. A lot of people make this mistake though. Maybe he doesn't have a Nobel Gundam, I'm not sure. In the Haruhi one he used a Dreamcast to represent a building. The King Gainer had a Guncannon for the Gainer when I think the Turn A would have fit best. He's likely working with just a few Gunpla and only uses his cheaper ones for obvious reasons (Using a Zeta means your just asking for the Waverider Pack to fall off or something, same goes with anything post U.C 0080).

Samatarou
2007-04-17, 22:27
Random comments on ep.2

☆ I totally identify with Tsukasa over the homework thing and sleeping until noon, if she is an Akari figure then she’s had Hiroyuki’s soul implanted in her. Having said that my strategy on having slept through the holiday would be more Kona-chan’s "last minute cramming" approach than Tsukasa’s, and like her I usually pulled it off. (I note we don’t actually see what score Tsukasa got)

★ Although I enjoy Lucky Channel so far it’s not my favourite bit, I feel this is something that could get old quickly if they’re not careful.

☆ The game scene, I expected the female chara to be Kona-chan and the hulk to be the guy, of course it was the reverse, I guess this is IRL creeping in, I get the impression macho guys do seem to harbour secret desires to pretend to be cute girls for some reason

★ I forget what my fourth point was.

☆ Did Kona-chan actually make a face? Or were they just... it’s an old joke but sometimes they’re the best...

CrowKenobi
2007-04-17, 22:43
Nobel Gundam actually. Noble is the American name and totally unnecessary. A lot of people make this mistake though. If people said that it's the "Sailor Moon Gundam" I'll know exactly which one it is. :p :heh:

Anyway, from the people who bring you sos-dan.com (http://www.sos-dan.com): Raki☆Suta~! | DA☆DA☆DA☆DA☆DA (http://www.raki-suta.com/)

:cool:

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-17, 23:19
If people said that it's the "Sailor Moon Gundam" I'll know exactly which one it is. :p :heh:

Anyway, from the people who bring you sos-dan.com (http://www.sos-dan.com): Raki☆Suta~! | DA☆DA☆DA☆DA☆DA (http://www.raki-suta.com/)

:cool:

Whoa are they just getting started. The side bar is not functioning either. The image board looks like 4chan, which I have to say is one of the more disorganized style of boards I've seen. In fact I only figured out about 2 weeks ago how 2chan organizes its posting and man is it kind of confusing. Still haven't figured out how the picture within a picture style of 4chan image boards works. I assume a reply to a post makes it branch kind of like a file tree on your hard drive.

Anyway I love this post http://www.raki-suta.com/img/res/30.html#i48 . That's how my friend pronounces the name.

MakubeX2
2007-04-17, 23:47
http://i12.tinypic.com/2dmf3g1.jpg

Daniel E.
2007-04-18, 00:03
Whoa are they just getting started. The side bar is not functioning either.

If I am not mistaken, they have been around for almost a week now. (maybe a bit more)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-18, 00:29
http://i12.tinypic.com/2dmf3g1.jpg

..........YES!:love:....I mean NO! I mean.........Damnit! Say no to temptation. Maybe? Either way stop doing that, or don't. :confused: :confused:

tritoch
2007-04-18, 01:18
Ooooo HQ Lucky Star :D

EnA's version of the script feels the best in terms of how they convey the conversations.

Mappy
2007-04-18, 01:47
..........YES!:love:....I mean NO! I mean.........Damnit! Say no to temptation. Maybe? Either way stop doing that, or don't. :confused: :confused:

Lucky?Star continues to confuse and confound. ;)

Ascaloth
2007-04-18, 01:51
..........YES!:love:....I mean NO! I mean.........Damnit! Say no to temptation. Maybe? Either way stop doing that, or don't. :confused: :confused:

Kaioshin-chan is cracking. :D

Vexx
2007-04-18, 01:53
I think Kaoshin spoke for most of us in regard to that little image. :)

MakubeX2
2007-04-18, 02:11
That is how a life size wall scroll of Kagami measuring 168 cm by 80 cm which is included in the Limited Edition of an up coming Lucky Star NDS game will look acutually.

bayoab
2007-04-18, 02:18
Ooooo HQ Lucky Star :D.
Lucky Star does not air in HD or anything beside standard resolution.
i.e. the HQ is in the eye of the beholder (And looks worse than the non-hq).

tritoch
2007-04-18, 02:23
HD and HQ are different.

I like the bigger resolution cause the subs/on screen text come out less fuzzy. I actually read the text since I'm learning japanese. :D

Here's a screenshot if you must. :D

http://tritochjay.googlepages.com/difference.jpg

Not that it means anything really. heh, my cap covered Momoha's body!

-back to thread talk-

When's the opener coming out on CD or heck does a PV even exist? I want the song.

Jazzrat
2007-04-18, 02:28
Life sized wall scroll scares me...... that sorta thing must never be placed carelessly in your room but to be housed in that secret shrine in your basement that no one but you know.

Mappy
2007-04-18, 02:42
The problem with those secret shrines in the basement are all the sacrifices they demand of you.

I don't have a basement, so I have to wear my shame with pride. :eyespin:

tritoch
2007-04-18, 03:03
If I live alone, those wall scrollies would look nice.. but if you dont leave alone or have frequent visitors.. Its kinda..... weird.

Vexx
2007-04-18, 04:11
I guess it would depend on what the wall scroll *was* (I keep wondering where people display some of those outrageous almost mysogynistic figurines I see on some sites).

However, if my son put up that Kagami wall scroll, I wouldn't blink twice. I think my wife would even prefer that to some T&A cheesecake bogosity. Why? ... because its cute rather than raunchy.

Telliamed
2007-04-18, 06:18
My one big gripe with ep2 was how dare they tell us Konata works at a maid cafe, but not show us her outfit?

But the side-by-side day in the lives of Tsukasa & Kagami was brilliant. And their father is also a late riser. I'd say "that's where she gets it from", but they're identical twins, so...

Kona's second opponent in the arcade, is that Bobobo?

And does anyone else get the impression Akira is channeling Haruharu Haruka during Lucky Channel?

Required avatars: Akira picking her ear. Dental assistant squirting the hypodermic needle.

KiNA
2007-04-18, 06:46
** Unlurked **

I told Daniel that I'll post these when I have a set ... 2 pieces of signature would consider a set too, yes? :D ... Miyuki and Tsukasa would be a challenge since I have to get a source of them too .. in the mean time .. these 2 released under freebie rule.. first come, first serve .. AS friendly

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3259/konatapl7.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6237/kagamilskm3.jpg

This thread moves to fast so I might missed the claim.. *If* I didnt reply back here .. please visit my signature thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=44442) to claim .. the signature is on the 2nd showcase, at page 4. :)

Narf. :heh: >.< Stealing Skane's favourite quote :heh:

**/go buy new lurking coat**

Larcx
2007-04-18, 06:55
** Unlurked **

I told Daniel that I'll post these when I have a set ... 2 pieces of signature would consider a set too, yes? :D ... Miyuki and Tsukasa would be a challenge since I have to get a source of them too .. in the mean time .. these 2 released under freebie rule.. first come, first serve .. AS friendly

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3259/konatapl7.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6237/kagamilskm3.jpg

This thread moves to fast so I might missed the claim.. *If* I didnt reply back here .. please visit my signature thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=44442) to claim .. the signature is on the 2nd showcase, at page 4. :)

Narf. :heh: >.< Stealing Skane's favourite quote :heh:

**/go buy new lurking coat**

may i have this one pliz?:p
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3259/konatapl7.jpg

JediNight
2007-04-18, 06:57
Well, even if the EnA raw is upscaled, it's still certainly sharper than the one a.f.k. used. You can tell in the text on the signs, and the crosswalk for example. I'm sure if a.f.k. finds the username of that raw capper they probably would switch for future episodes. It's just hard to find good raws to start.

Overall though, I would still go with the a.f.k. version, because they have a really great translation, and the official lyrics for the OP song as well.

KiNA
2007-04-18, 07:19
may i have this one pliz?:p
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3259/konatapl7.jpg

^^ .. Konata sig claimed then ^^

JediNight
2007-04-18, 07:30
How'd you come up with all the random designs behind the characters? That looks nice.

KiNA
2007-04-18, 07:36
Brushing :D ..

I'm still new at vector style signature to be honest.. but making it was fun ^^

@ Larcx .. in case you've missed my post in my thread.. you cant have text in your signature slot since the signature's height is 160, sorry ..

Larcx
2007-04-18, 07:40
Brushing :D ..

I'm still new at vector style signature to be honest.. but making it was fun ^^

@ Larcx .. in case you've missed my post in my thread.. you cant have text in your signature slot since the signature's height is 160, sorry ..

it's ok,i prefer this way instead^^

@JediNight
yup,i 2 prefer a.f.k sub:D
since they've done a great job in The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi:heh:

KiNA
2007-04-18, 07:46
No, if mods found out, your sig is gonna get removed.

Dont blame me for not telling ..

Sorry for the offtopic >.<

Anyway, when actually Lucky Star is aired? Sunday? Saturday? I only found out after the sub is released >.<

Pellissier
2007-04-18, 07:59
Anyway, when actually Lucky Star is aired? Sunday? Saturday? I only found out after the sub is released >.<
Officially it airs on sunday at 24:00 (japanese time). For episode 2 we had an anticipated release (youtube quality) the day before, and I don't know whether this will repeat or not, anyway good quality raws actually popped out some hours after the given official time. While the first english fansubs releases took 1-2 days after episode airing.

Larcx
2007-04-18, 08:09
Officially it airs on sunday at 24:00 (japanese time). For episode 2 we had an anticipated release (youtube quality) the day before, and I don't know whether this will repeat or not, anyway good quality raws actually popped out some hours after the given official time. While the first english fansubs releases took 1-2 days after episode airing.

wow,at 24:00 ?
i thought it airs in the morning:heh:

@Kira
i already resized it^^
Thx 4 the info

bayoab
2007-04-18, 08:32
Well, even if the EnA raw is upscaled, it's still certainly sharper than the one a.f.k. used. You can tell in the text on the signs, and the crosswalk for example. I'm sure if a.f.k. finds the username of that raw capper they probably would switch for future episodes. It's just hard to find good raws to start.Based on the EnA release, it seems there are also issues with color bleeds and discoloration in that raw.

and the official lyrics for the OP song as well.
Errr... not the official ones quite yet... Nobody has the official lyrics.

Ashlotte
2007-04-18, 08:46
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6237/kagamilskm3.jpg

*sneaks in* Ill lay a claim if noone else has Kira. :p

And yea it would have been nice to have seen Konata's face or her maid outfit...shame.

Anime Online
2007-04-18, 08:59
But the side-by-side day in the lives of Tsukasa & Kagami was brilliant. And their father is also a late riser. I'd say "that's where she gets it from", but they're identical twins, so...



I don't think Tsukasa's father is a late-riser.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/577/luckystar01lj5.th.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=luckystar01lj5.jpg)

When Kagami commented that her dad is slow, the brown haired girl replied that he has morning ritual. Then we have her dad saying "I'm home"

At the lunch table, we see her dad in a shinto priest costume (with a miko just beside) eyeing Tsukasa (who is still in her pyjamas) somewhat disapprovingly. Tsukasa's embarassed smile in reply is simply too cute.

KiNA
2007-04-18, 09:00
*sneaks in* Ill lay a claim if noone else has Kira. :p

And yea it would have been nice to have seen Konata's face or her maid outfit...shame.

Sold!

Until the next batch then ^^

kenjiharima
2007-04-18, 09:09
anyone else gonna make a kona-chan sig? Badly want one~~!! XD

Riker
2007-04-18, 10:48
Lucky☆Ai

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4779/1176895110221hl9.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176895110221hl9.jpg)


Lucky☆Hana Ichigo

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8500/1176903693691hb6.th.gif (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176903693691hb6.gif)


Lucky☆Patchouli

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1475/1176825940025ne8.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176825940025ne8.jpg)


Lucky☆Haruhi

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1752/1176897277845gp9.th.gif (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176897277845gp9.gif)


Melon pan!

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1048/1176743585893ii8.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176743585893ii8.jpg)


"Wa~ Wa~ Wa~.... uh oh..."

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7021/1176846108589yw6.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176846108589yw6.jpg)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-18, 11:15
Lucky☆Ai

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4779/1176895110221hl9.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176895110221hl9.jpg)


Lucky☆Hana Ichigo

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8500/1176903693691hb6.th.gif (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176903693691hb6.gif)


Lucky☆Patchouli

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1475/1176825940025ne8.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176825940025ne8.jpg)


Lucky☆Haruhi

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/1752/1176897277845gp9.th.gif (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176897277845gp9.gif)


Melon pan!

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/1048/1176743585893ii8.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176743585893ii8.jpg)


"Wa~ Wa~ Wa~.... uh oh..."

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7021/1176846108589yw6.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176846108589yw6.jpg)

This is starting to remind me of how Hisashi Hirai does character designs.

kenjiharima
2007-04-18, 11:32
"Wa~ Wa~ Wa~.... uh oh..."

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7021/1176846108589yw6.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176846108589yw6.jpg)

^ That is a little ecchi...I love it!!! :heh:


maybe it was meant to be like that since Kona-chan is an otaku and she cosplays so she can blend to any anime girl character.

kenjiharima
2007-04-18, 11:39
gomen double post...the connection is slow!!

pomps
2007-04-18, 12:02
Anyone guess what online game Kona's playing? The chat panel and the status, shortcut bar is very similar to Ragnarok online :D.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3571/02079ny1.jpg

Sheba
2007-04-18, 12:05
Anyone guess what online game Kona's playing? The chat panel and the status, shortcut bar is very similar to Ragnarok online :D.
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3571/02079ny1.jpg


Heh, that game is popular enough in Japan to still generate ero doujinshi when a big part of the MMO player base moved on WoW.

Daniel E.
2007-04-18, 12:20
** Unlurked **

I told Daniel that I'll post these when I have a set ... 2 pieces of signature would consider a set too, yes? :D ... Miyuki and Tsukasa would be a challenge since I have to get a source of them too .. in the mean time .. these 2 released under freebie rule.. first come, first serve .. AS friendly

I knew they would be taken right on the spot; Both sigs look great.

Though, I think it would be better to make them 120 pixels high from now on. :rolleyes: :heh:

kenjiharima
2007-04-18, 12:41
Seems like it's Kagami and not Miyuki she's gonna do it with. :heh:
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/MagicalKanan/almostkiss.jpg

Meatrose
2007-04-18, 13:12
Oh btw... did [a.f.k.] go AFK for good? Or perhaps I missed something. =P

Narumi
2007-04-18, 13:29
Overall though, I would still go with the a.f.k. version, because they have a really great translation, and the official lyrics for the OP song as well.
The official lyrics probably won't be available until the single is released in May.

Vexx
2007-04-18, 13:38
Oh btw... did [a.f.k.] go AFK for good? Or perhaps I missed something. =P

Why? Was there an announcement or something? They don't have a website or forum I know of -- and I usually avoid IRC channels of fansub groups unless I seriously can't get a file through torrents.

If you're wondering why they haven't released ep 2...
1) its been less than a week.
2) they usually stew over their translation and processing longer before releasing anyway.

NaweG
2007-04-18, 13:39
I don't know, having seen the latest LC .avi release, I think their translation of the OP is probably closer to the spirit of the song. In fact, with the fix to their font, their episode 2 subbing was pretty high quality.

IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc.

Kyuusai
2007-04-18, 13:52
The official lyrics probably won't be available until the single is released in May.

I am utterly ashamed to admit that the thought of having to wait until May makes me meloncholy. Almost as ashamed as I am to admit that I'll be obtaining it in the first place. :D

Vexx
2007-04-18, 14:41
I don't know, having seen the latest LC .avi release, I think their translation of the OP is probably closer to the spirit of the song. In fact, with the fix to their font, their episode 2 subbing was pretty high quality.

IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc.

I'm still evaluating which of the translations I like best... I'm resigned to downloading each episode 2-4 times til I'm comfortable with one group's work.
LC has improved so much I hope they go back and redo the first few eps...

The biggest win for a fansub group is if I purchase the eventually licensed product but continue to watch their sub of the series because I like the translation better than I like the additional video quality :).

bayoab
2007-04-18, 15:38
Oh btw... did [a.f.k.] go AFK for good? Or perhaps I missed something. =P
Wow, not releasing for 4 days and already considered dead.

I don't know, having seen the latest LC .avi release, I think their translation of the OP is probably closer to the spirit of the song. In fact, with the fix to their font, their episode 2 subbing was pretty high quality.

IMHO, FWIW, YMMV, etc.
I'm getting their episode 2 avi for comparison now, but their translation of the op (for the ep 1 & ep 2 mkv) has been the most incorrect thus far out of all the groups. It does not even make sense or come close to matching what they put for the Japanese lyrics.

Edit: What they put for the japanese lyrics is impossible and doesn't make sense either.
Edit2: Lyrics haven't changed. The clearly translated a set of lyrics (which I know exactly which ones they are and my analysis of the translation remains the same) which are differen't from the ones they karaoked.

Michael Hopcroft
2007-04-18, 15:51
Um, am I the only one who got serious pings on the gaydar from Kagami and Konata during the "sick visit" segment?

I get the impression that once Konata learns how to approach real sex, she'd go after anything on two legs of either gender that appealed to her.

CrowKenobi
2007-04-18, 15:58
Lucky☆Ai
Lucky☆Hana Ichigo
Lucky☆Patchouli
Lucky☆Haruhi
Melon pan!
Now all we need is Lucky☆Lina Inverse! :heh:

:cool:

Deathkillz
2007-04-18, 16:04
I get the impression that once Konata learns how to approach real sex, she'd go after anything on two legs of either gender that appealed to her.
lol that reminds me of how mikuru was "taken in" by haruhi to be forever molested :heh: (they do share some characteristic traits too ~)

Ashlotte
2007-04-18, 16:31
Much thanks Kira...Felt the need to get something alittle more matching to skane's awesome avy. ;)

And yea A.F.K. may not be the fastest but their the one I always download after a speedsub. Plus im not sure why but the font/color LC used for episode 2 bothered my eyes abit to read...not sure why. :upset:

Vexx
2007-04-18, 16:34
I wouldn't be surprised at Kona being a generalized cuddler for some reason... though at least for now its purely speculation.

Michael Hopcroft
2007-04-18, 16:48
Now all we need is Lucky☆Lina Inverse! :heh:

:cool:

I think Kona might actually play Lina at a con somewhere. Or cosplay as her.

Of course, if Konata were roleplaying Lina Inverse and the series were written that way it would be weird.

Zelgadis: So, Gourry, your new armor comes without trousers?
Gourry: Afraid so. Apparently it saves time.
(At that moment Kona/Lina tackles Gourry and drags him off into the woods, followed by some extremely odd noises.)
Amelia: You know, you should consider that....
Zelgadis: No.
Amelia: Guess I'll have to learn to unwrap then.
Zelgadis: *GULP!*

~Tsukuyomi
2007-04-18, 18:46
anyone else gonna make a kona-chan sig? Badly want one~~!! XD

If there is any more high quality screenshot, then I'll make some for you and me...

JediNight
2007-04-18, 20:49
a.f.k. is part of the "Oldguard" fansub groups. If you want speedsubs from them, you won't get em. They take their time and release it when it's right and ready.

As for the song: As I said before, April Animage magazine has the Spring lyrics booklet every year, and I'm sure they have the lyrics for the OP in it. And even if a.f.k. doesn't have the official lyrics, they're REALLY close then.

I have an exceptionally sharp ear for listening, and do some translation myself, and I agree with a.f.k. on everything I could hear. (There are a few words here and there in the song that just are garbled/flown over too quickly to ever comprehend)

The song is basically flipping between a bunch of different conversations that you would have with your friends. There IS a pattern of thought to the lyrics, it's not completely random/non-sensical if you think about it from a context of girls in HS. The only thing thats a bit on its own is how they work in the theme of "Lucky" into the song in parts.

CrowKenobi
2007-04-18, 21:23
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6238/1176295711626bb5.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176295711626bb5.jpg) . http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/5434/1176295795229an9.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176295795229an9.jpg) . http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7907/1176879221297bw9.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176879221297bw9.jpg)

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6460/1176295919153wg3.jpg . http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3173/1176879267412fp8.jpg

:cool:

Sushi-Y
2007-04-18, 21:31
I have an exceptionally sharp ear for listening, and do some translation myself, and I agree with a.f.k. on everything I could hear. (There are a few words here and there in the song that just are garbled/flown over too quickly to ever comprehend)
I don't watch the subs myself but there IS a thread on Syu's quiz blog that lists some crack attempts at the lyrics, I'd say they're pretty close there.
http://www.syu-ta.com/blog/2007/04/10/215408.shtml

bayoab
2007-04-18, 21:52
As for the song: As I said before, April Animage magazine has the Spring lyrics booklet every year, and I'm sure they have the lyrics for the OP in it. And even if a.f.k. doesn't have the official lyrics, they're REALLY close then.
Animage didn't run the book last year from what I could find. That is unless it was in some later volume from normal. Animedia doesn't have Lucky Star (already got that confirmed) in theirs which is already out.

I don't watch the subs myself but there IS a thread on Syu's quiz blog that lists some crack attempts at the lyrics, I'd say they're pretty close there.
http://www.syu-ta.com/blog/2007/04/10/215408.shtml
There is also the site to make the song #1 on Oricon which has attempts at the lyrics (which change almost daily).

Nemo_N
2007-04-18, 21:56
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/3173/1176879267412fp8.jpg


Requesting Hi-Res scan of this! For great justice!

(Poor Kagami :heh: )

Narumi
2007-04-18, 22:09
There is also the site to make the song #1 on Oricon which has attempts at the lyrics (which change almost daily).
But it gets its source from two blogs, one of which is the one Sushi-Y mentioned. Even the Japanese fans argue over what the lyrics should be, so we really have no way to be sure who's correct until the actual Single is out.

Theclow
2007-04-18, 22:29
http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6460/1176295919153wg3.jpg
Requesting High res scan, I seriously think we need it.

Skane
2007-04-18, 22:29
I got my mitts on a decent RAW, so I am starting to make GIFs from Ep02. Here's the first one. Open to requests, but I will only work on one at a time (I'm a slow GIF-maker :heh:).

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4968/ep02kagami01256cvd7.gif (http://imageshack.us)
First come, first serve.

Cheers.

celcius
2007-04-18, 22:36
Eek, mind if I get it Skane?

darkchibi07
2007-04-18, 22:36
Episode 2 from a.f.k. is out! :D

Skane
2007-04-18, 22:39
Eek, mind if I get it Skane?
Sure, go ahead.

Cheers.

DJ_RockmanX
2007-04-18, 22:41
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4968/ep02kagami01256cvd7.gif (http://imageshack.us)

JUST AS PLANNED. :D

*goes off to dl subs*

Daniel E.
2007-04-18, 23:29
Haven't posted a trace in a while, so here goes a new one :D

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/663/26amiyukitracebydanielkt6.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26amiyukitracebydanielkt6.jpg)

It's not a shop or a repost of the other one posted ealier. Please take a moment to see it and tell me what you think about it. :)

celcius
2007-04-18, 23:30
Thanks you Skane~ ^^
Can't +rep, have to spread it around first =.=

Some Kona-chan mugshots. Was really tempted to use some of the ones from the first row (#2 and #3).
http://xs414.xs.to/xs414/07164/Untitled-1.png (http://xs.to)
It's PNG with transparency, so you can just crop whichever you want and resize. :)

bayoab
2007-04-18, 23:51
But it gets its source from two blogs, one of which is the one Sushi-Y mentioned. Even the Japanese fans argue over what the lyrics should be, so we really have no way to be sure who's correct until the actual Single is out.

Right, and the other is the blog by the same guy who owns the #1 site. So in the end, it basically comes down to getting it from people on 2ch and they don't agree at all. Hopefully, animage will run a songbook and we will find out the lyrics then since animedia already failed us.

Asai
2007-04-19, 00:39
I'm still trying to decide which group to go with. I've watched LC/S-F's version of both one and two, afk's one and two, EnA and WinD's ep one, and overall I prefer WinD's translation and styling, but not being softsubbed like LC is a bit of a turnoff. The quasi-HD release EnA did appealed, since I do like HD releases, but the styling they used was painful to the eyes.

I rarely bother comparing groups, but since LC's first version had some errors, and I dislike afk's over-translation, I wanted to check out what the other groups were offering. I guess I can't have everything, though. Too much to ask for HD, soft-subs and a solid translation. ^^; Looks like I'll be sticking with WinD from now on, given my personal preferences, even though they're not HD (is it even broadcast in HD? EnA's 1024x576 ver did look a bit fuzzy).

As for the OP translation... everyone's is different. I like afk's the most, but given the over-translation in dialogue bugs me, I'm unable to settle. I suppose the best I can hope for is somebody to re-release the entire series with official lyrics and DVD source in the future. :D

CrowKenobi
2007-04-19, 00:39
Just watched a.f.k.'s sub and I would give this episode a 9/10. :D More variation and some good bits to go with it and Lucky Channel hitting a home run again. :heh:

Do you think that http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2956/1175749392luckyam7.jpg is Konata's staring face? I do. :D :p

:cool:

~Tsukuyomi
2007-04-19, 01:11
Haven't posted a trace in a while, so here goes a new one :D

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/663/26amiyukitracebydanielkt6.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=26amiyukitracebydanielkt6.jpg)

It's not a shop or a repost of the other one posted ealier. Please take a moment to see it and tell me what you think about it. :)

Feels like there's more detail than the original work... Looks a tad glossy, but still is very good...

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 01:22
Already saw LC's version and would give it a 7. Much the same, but totally harmless.

Things I learned from LS ep 2:

Loli's ALWAYS look good in Pajama's

Konata is me in High School. I would frequently not bother to study at all and walk away with high 80's and when I did study it was either perfect or close to it. In University I can usually study the night before an exam and get a B range mark. Aya Hirano's Konata is also starting to remind me of Chiwa Saito's Staff Room Rebecca Miyamoto with the whole bluntness thing.

The Dentist is in fact Getter-2 and he's coming to drill the Kyoraku Empire out of your teeth. (This is only funny if you know what Getter Robo is). The Dentist's assistant is actually Noriko from Gunbuster (with a thinly disguised and shortened Active Heart playing to avoid lawsuits).

Kyoto Animation KNOWS what they did this summer (Drama-CD reference).

When Konata Made This Face, He Would Make This Face. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0ysHRBwAlk)

Both Kagami and Miyuki are really really dumb as a result of them being overly Moe. They are the perfect foil for Konata's Witty Observations.

The only time I laughed out loud was when they were imagining where Konata might be working and she wouldn't help the customer because she was reading all the manga. Then after that I continued to laugh at how the scenario played out roughly the same each time with the same facial expression, posture and dryness of Konata. Also this is the perfect business plan. Hire a loli to work the cash and watch the dough flow in. It's a Cutthroat Business.

Then Lucky Channel came on, which is nowhere near as funny as most people claim. In fact for me its the least clever part of the show. So she's bipolar....yeah uhuh. Maybe they could let Takeshi (Brock) talk more. It was really only funny the first time.

The credits came on and the smile returned to my face as I got to here a really poor rendition of Akumaizer 3 completely of key and timing. HAHA!

Daniel E.
2007-04-19, 02:24
Feels like there's more detail than the original work... Looks a tad glossy, but still is very good...

Yes, I like to change/add/delete things whenever I do a trace; I sometimes dont want to do it, but I just cant help it in the end. :heh: This one in particular has more effects on the hair, eyes, skin and color.

About the glossy part.... it's probably because of the outlines color; After looking at it for hours, you kinda get used to the colors and feel they are just the right match for the character. :p

I'll probably go for Akira next. I'll be sure to be more careful with that one.

Thanks for the feedback!! :) :)

DragoonKain3
2007-04-19, 02:38
Best part of eps 2?

WaWaWaWa~

I was literally LMAO for a good two minutes, and had to rewind a bit because I couldn't even pause the goddamn thing. It was so absurdly forced into the scene that it was farking hilarious.

Second place goes to
staring match scene, since their laughter sounds so real it was actually contagious. XD

And that bit about
drama CD and series having different seiyuus. A poke at the series itself?



Overall I liked this episode a lot. Cemented my favoritism of Kagami over the rest of the cast, with her having a lot of screen time in this episode. Well worth it for me to watch it at 3 am in the morning, and can't wait for the next episode.

Pellissier
2007-04-19, 03:07
Freebies from episode 2:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3748/luckystar2kagami1cb8.gif http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8222/luckystar2kagami2rz9.gif http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3909/luckystar2kagami3sb4.gif http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8681/luckystar2kagami4oe9.gif

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3631/luckystar2tsukasa1kp7.gif http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2962/luckystar2konata1zr4.gif http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1187/luckystar2konata2mg2.gif http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8180/luckystar2konata3va6.gif

KiNA
2007-04-19, 03:45
Almost wanted to steal those Kagami av >.<

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3646/miyukiim7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Same deal.. If I don't reply.. click my signature to go to my signature thread to claim .. urm, I think I did relink my sig to my thread :D .. OK, yea, click my sig to go to my thread.

btw, Miyuki source pic by Daniel E ^^ .. its on previous page ^^

That leave Tsukasa and Akira >.<

*pachi pachi pachi*

Sheba
2007-04-19, 03:49
I think the "evil" manly voice in the preview sounds like Kasai's, the Sonozaki Shion's bodyguard. What the name of his seiyu again? Fumihiko Tachiki?

~Tsukuyomi
2007-04-19, 03:50
I was bored, so I did lots of personal researching on Lucky Star in general and became to familiar... Then I watched a.f.k. subbed and laughed 100 times harder than the 30 times watching the RAW (which is still a good laugh)...

And that bit about
drama CD and series having different seiyuus. A poke at the series itself?

Yes, the the whole entire drama CD skit is about themselves... KyoAni sure is very good at making self-reference comedy (which I'm not sure they're isn't a lot of those in any shows or anything else...) Though, after realizing that joke entirely, I can't stop laughing at it...

celcius
2007-04-19, 04:00
I was bored, so I did lots of personal researching on Lucky Star in general and became to familiar... Then I watched a.f.k. subbed and laughed 100 times harder than the 30 times watching the RAW (which is still a good laugh)...



Yes, the the whole entire drama CD skit is about themselves... KyoAni sure is very good at making self-reference comedy (which I'm not sure they're isn't a lot of those in any shows or anything else...) Though, after realizing that joke entirely, I can't stop laughing at it...
I have to say this is probably the best part of ep.2. While watching it, I was smiling as I realized that it was a reference to KyoAni's RakiSuta itself. When it went to Konata's feelings about it all, I was thinking to myself "Heeeeey, this is how I felt!!" and proceeded to laugh. My grin couldn't be wiped from my face that day.

JediNight
2007-04-19, 05:48
I too got a kick out of the fake Gunbuster eyecatch they did with the Excelion in the background rofl...

kenjiharima
2007-04-19, 07:02
Requesting High res scan, I seriously think we need it.

Best I could find ;)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f154/harimadez/MagicalKanan/beach3lolis.jpg

btw I'm taking this :heh:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8180/luckystar2konata3va6.gif

Sorrow-K
2007-04-19, 07:13
Ep 2.

Oh God, when Minoru went "wawawa" I almost died of laughter. Legendary reference.

As for the rest of the ep, absolutely hilarious. It's managing to do many of the things Azumanga did right, including an outstanding cast that gels. I think I'm growing particularly fond of Kagami as well. She's like the Yomi of the group, in that she's the most grounded and sensible, and having someone like that really helps add balance to the off-the-wall humour.

More eps like this, hopefully. Who cares if it's shamelessly pandering to otaku, it's goddamn hilarious.

JediNight
2007-04-19, 08:32
What exactly is the WaWaWa reference from? Anything Moe/Harem I won't get probably, since I don't watch many of those shows.

PS: Why is vector tracing suddenly so popular? I don't understand why someone would spend all that time re-doing the picture when they could just use ... the picture ^_^;;

Kinny Riddle
2007-04-19, 08:46
What exactly is the WaWaWa reference from? Anything Moe/Harem I won't get probably, since I don't watch many of those shows.

PS: Why is vector tracing suddenly so popular? I don't understand why someone would spend all that time re-doing the picture when they could just use ... the picture ^_^;;
Shiraishi Minoru (who plays himself BTW) had a line that he immortalized in The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi. After a scene where the main character Kyon picks up a girl (Yuki) who happens to be recovering from injury (long story), Shiraishi's character enters non-chalantly, singing a silly song: "Wa-wa-wa-wasure-mono......(sees the both of them lying on the ground)...WHOA! (after about 3 seconds) Er...Enjoy yourselves! (Believing he's intruding on them having a "happy" time, and rushes out)"

(For more info, go read the damn book, here's a link to the English translation: http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Suzumiya_Haruhi

Or wait for the DVD to come to a store near you, if you live in North America. )

For some series, the first episode usually means nothing, it's the second episode that decides whether one would continue watching a show or not. And Lucky Star has won me over with this second episode.

Too many references for me to list here, the highlights include their self-reference joke of having an entirely different cast than the drama CD, the Hare Hare Yukai Taiko game, Keroro dolls, and of course "Wa-wa-wa-wa...".

Skane
2007-04-19, 08:47
Freebies from episode 2:

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/3748/luckystar2kagami1cb8.gif http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8222/luckystar2kagami2rz9.gif http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/3909/luckystar2kagami3sb4.gif http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8681/luckystar2kagami4oe9.gif
Yes... the world needs more Kagami. :D

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3384/ep02kagami02256chw3.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8756/ep02kagami03176cmj2.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3986/ep02kagami04256ctj0.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5125/ep02kagami05079cuy3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2438/ep02kagami07256cmj2.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2326/ep02kagami08256cje4.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5884/ep02kagami09210cgb9.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5716/ep02kagami06256cxc2.gif (http://imageshack.us)
~~~~ ~~~~

The following GIFs were made for fun, and are not AnimeSuki-Friendly. The former follows the normal speed, while the latter has been slowed down by half.

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6024/ep02parody01256c25fpskd0.gif (http://imageshack.us) http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3010/ep02parody01256c125fpsok1.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Cheers.

Woland
2007-04-19, 08:48
What exactly is the WaWaWa reference from? Anything Moe/Harem I won't get probably, since I don't watch many of those shows.

edit: to late. don't mind.

NaweG
2007-04-19, 09:25
Please take a moment to see it and tell me what you think about it. :)

To quote Pepe LePew...

Le Sigh... :D

JediNight
2007-04-19, 09:32
Ah, I have seen Suzumiya Haruhi of course, but I guess I didn't remember that part. I remember that scene, but only remember the "enjoy yourselves" part of what he says.

Alexandrite
2007-04-19, 09:55
Now that a.f.k.'s sub is out, I finally got to see episode two. While I didn't quite get all of the references, I'm pleased that I was able to get as many as I did (yay Sia picture! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Banisher/Anime%20Screens/luckystar2-sia.png)); a year ago, none of that would have made sense to me, except maybe Keroro Gunso. Apparently I've learned quite of bit of information that will likely never help me in the real world in the past few months. :heh:

I think identifying with Konata is kind of a double edged sword for me. I slack off as much as she does, and often by doing the same things, but I always wing it - like how I'm going to wing my test in about an hour and a half. Given how odd Konata is, maybe I should be worried more.

...nah.

I quite liked episode two. While not a surprising trait, Tsukasa and Kagami are some of the most out of synch twins I've seen (and I sympathize with Tsukasa's extended sleep schedule).

On Lucky Channel: I agree with what was already said, in that it's a humorous bit, but it could get stale if not handled properly, though I don't think it's going to just crash (to me, anyway) just yet.

Not really much I can say regarding the show because of how random it is, and I'm not yet in the practice of writing extended posts on episodes of anime, but I'm sure at some point I'll find something I can make a more sophisticated post about. :heh:

Daniel E.
2007-04-19, 09:55
PS: Why is vector tracing suddenly so popular? I don't understand why someone would spend all that time re-doing the picture when they could just use ... the picture ^_^;;

Because the original picture is not as good to use in the first place. ;)

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3329/grab00365av9.th.jpg (http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grab00365av9.jpg)

Do notice the natural size of it, it's not a 1024 x 768 wallpaper. The colors look pale. her head is chopped and many details are just not there.

Of course, if someone were to trace another trace, then I'll have no choice but to agree with you. :) It's all about the source in the end.

Oh and KiNa, that sig, so moe :love:

it's 160 pixels high though :( wich leaves no room for the link to my thread. guess it's gonna be first come first served with that one. >_< !!

errorrrr
2007-04-19, 10:06
:x you guys shouldn't even compare this anime to anything else... this manga ran in COMPTIQ simply because it had space lol... it's intended to relieve daily stress... just watch sit back and "heh." that's all it is :) have fun.

errorrrr
2007-04-19, 10:10
Officially it airs on sunday at 24:00 (japanese time). For episode 2 we had an anticipated release (youtube quality) the day before, and I don't know whether this will repeat or not, anyway good quality raws actually popped out some hours after the given official time. While the first english fansubs releases took 1-2 days after episode airing.

LC ver are released usually within 24 hours.

KiNA
2007-04-19, 10:16
Oh and KiNa, that sig, so moe :love:

it's 160 pixels high though :( wich leaves no room for the link to my thread. guess it's gonna be first come first served with that one. >_< !!

You could always do it like me .. linking it to the sig itself. Of course then, 1 must know your sig picture is a secret passage to your thread :o then

120px kinda small to include her whole face tho =/ ...

Since peoples like having texts in your sig, maybe I should consider making 120px version instead =/

Rengemaru
2007-04-19, 10:30
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6024/ep02parody01256c25fpskd0.gif (http://imageshack.us)

I'm kinda ok with needles and dentists, but after this Get-Den, I'm having second thoughts >.<

MakubeX2
2007-04-19, 10:43
Forgive me if this had not been mentioned but....

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5728/1176803584407yk3iy1.jpg

Tsukasa's clothes in this sequence is the same as Kanon's Ayu in the last moments of the series. (Additionally, she wore the same outfit, complete with the outrageous cap, in another sequence in the manga.)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 10:44
So it took some references to Haruhi to get people to enjoy the show (Taiko, and this WaWaWa thing). Not surprising. Okay Kyoto Animation you know what to do, if episode 3 doesn't do Haruhi references then your back to square one.

Alexandrite
2007-04-19, 10:47
Forgive me if this had not been mentioned but....

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5728/1176803584407yk3iy1.jpg

Tsukasa's clothes in this sequence is the same as Kanon's Ayu in the last moments of the series. (Additionally, she wore the same outfit, complete with the outrageous cap, in another sequence in the manga.)
Considering how much I love Kanon, I'm ashamed that I missed that. :twitch:

I'm going to start paying more attention, I swear. :heh:

krln99
2007-04-19, 11:02
I hope we'll actually see an episode with Konata and friends at the Computiq Convention. That could turn out to be really hilarious.

Riker
2007-04-19, 11:19
Lucky☆Toho

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8490/1176696474395pv3.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176696474395pv3.jpg) http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/434/1176803222587dc3.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176803222587dc3.jpg) http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7351/1176803263697jg7.th.gif (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176803263697jg7.gif)


Lucky☆Nanoha and Lucky☆Arisa

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4864/1176674433038uw2.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176674433038uw2.jpg) http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/1535/1176675571516uw7.th.gif (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176675571516uw7.gif)


Lucky☆F/SN

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8933/remodk13599mj1.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=remodk13599mj1.jpg) http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5612/1176923634243qv0.th.jpg (http://img248.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176923634243qv0.jpg)


Lucky☆PangYa

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8718/1176817468108lt2.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176817468108lt2.jpg)


Lucky☆Maidens

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9253/1176832421501rt1.th.gif (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176832421501rt1.gif)



Some of the images are animated. : o

Ascaloth
2007-04-19, 11:19
So it took some references to Haruhi to get people to enjoy the show (Taiko, and this WaWaWa thing). Not surprising. Okay Kyoto Animation you know what to do, if episode 3 doesn't do Haruhi references then your back to square one.

For someone who professes to dislike the Kyon-types, Kaioshin-chan, you're turning out to be the Kyon-type around here these days. :heh:

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 11:27
For someone who professes to dislike the Kyon-types, Kaioshin-chan, you're turning out to be the Kyon-type around here these days. :heh:

I would hope I'm doing it with Style though, and not having a nervous breakdown while doing it (Anime Kyon actually). It's not that I hate the Kyon types so much as how they can be portrayed by certain folks.

Somebody should make an RPG called Lucky Pallet-Swap, where you play as Konata and have to take on all the renditions of her and her friends character designs that are made to looks like characters from other anime invading her universe. You would do this by staring blankly at the enemy until they break down crying and/or run away. And when Konata make THIS face :confused:, Miyuki makes this face :blush:. I don't know how anything beyond that would work.

pomps
2007-04-19, 11:41
I'm not good at tracing so I just used the picture from the manga and add color to it, looks abit grainy though.
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3867/maidsxq3.th.jpg (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maidsxq3.jpg)

Sheba
2007-04-19, 11:45
Lucky☆Toho

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8490/1176696474395pv3.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176696474395pv3.jpg) http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/434/1176803222587dc3.th.jpg (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176803222587dc3.jpg) http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7351/1176803263697jg7.th.gif (http://img256.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1176803263697jg7.gif)


I love how Touhou is awesome whatever it parodies.

Larcx
2007-04-19, 11:46
I'm not good at tracing so I just used the picture from the manga and add color to it, looks abit grainy though.
http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/3867/maidsxq3.th.jpg (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maidsxq3.jpg)

wow,Konata in Maid costume:heh:
Thx bro:D
2 bad eps 2 didn't show it:eyespin:

kenjiharima
2007-04-19, 12:06
Whooo~~~!!! Nice images!!! Thanks for making more parodies using vector tracing!!!

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 12:08
wow,Konata in Maid costume:heh:
Thx bro:D
2 bad eps 2 didn't show it:eyespin:

Yeah well.

I wonder how the prospects of a beach parody episode look by the way. Picture this it's Summer Vacation and they decide to take a vacation at the beach and I suppose some pseudo-romantic scene occurs that Konata makes light of in reference to some dating-sim conventions. Maybe they all line up in a row and do the bust-size comparison that appears every now adays with the loser crying, the winner looking shy and the second place looking quite proud of herself. Miyuki of course will be afraid of the water, which will lead to something amusing and we will likely find out that Konata is a good swimmer since she seems to be uber at everything (which I swear is a reference to the fact that Aya Hirano always seems to end up in roles where she plays supergirls in fairly bad shows, not including Haruhi).

Daniel E.
2007-04-19, 12:24
Ufff, for one reason or another I wasn't able to watch the second episode until today. :p :p

Anyway, poor Akira, she is so angry because Minoru is actually appearing in the show, she can barely stand it. :heh:

At this rate, she is probably gonna snap before eps. 5 comes along. :heh:

Klashikari
2007-04-19, 12:27
^ Actually, it looks like Akira will use Minoru, for some sly plans : disrupting the actual show cast, and jacking one place for her personal use... and fame :heh:

this is really a big irony, since her lucky channel is on the verge of stealing the main show prime fame XD


Note about a.f.k translation for ep2 : well, am i the only one feeling a bit weird with the "for-for-for-for-for-" translation with Minoru's "wowowowow" line (obvious easter egg for his Taniguchi role in SHnY :heh:) ?
or did i miss something which confirms that translation choice?

Clarste
2007-04-19, 12:37
Note about a.f.k translation for ep2 : well, am i the only one feeling a bit weird with the "for-for-for-for-for-" translation with Minoru's "wowowowow" line (obvious easter egg for his Taniguchi role in SHnY :heh:) ?
or did i miss something which confirms that translation choice?

He's saying the first syllable of "wasuremono," and a.f.k. decided to translate him as saying the first syllable of "forgot." I think this matches up with their translation of that episode of Haruhi. Removed from the context of that episode of Haruhi it doesn't make much sense, but obviously that context is the only reason he'd say it in the first place.

kenjiharima
2007-04-19, 12:40
Ahhh...they're using the same style as school rumble. Japanese words with other meanings!!! XD

Klashikari
2007-04-19, 12:42
He's saying the first syllable of "wasuremono," and a.f.k. decided to translate him as saying the first syllable of "forgot." I think this matches up with their translation of that episode of Haruhi. Removed from the context of that episode of Haruhi it doesn't make much sense, but obviously that context is the only reason he'd say it in the first place.
Win.
that certainly clears that obscure part (shame on me : i knew that scene, but wasn't even able to connect with the actual quote, duh ~~)

heh, come to think of that cameo, i'm wondering if they will introduce the "girls grade" from Minoru's point of view (guess he will have to grade akira with AAA+ or S :heh:)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 12:57
Does it really matter how they did the reference. It's just a goofy line from another show. Who Cares. I think we're missing the main point, which is that it happened and I suppose for some was amusing. I personally hope Lucky Channel stays out of the main show as I don't find it all that hystericall funny, and it really has no place other than at the end. You don't see the Kero's Corner segements from Card Captor Sakura in the main show. Do people want Lucky Star or what here?

Klashikari
2007-04-19, 13:01
Does it really matter how they did the reference. It's just a goofy line from another show. Who Cares.
"that" show still haunt you, does it? :heh:

IMHO if we remove the mythical lines, puns, cameo in L*S, it will reduce significantly its taste (meh that's just me anyway ~~)

bleh, as long as they keep the same structure (especially the Lucky Channel), i'm fine with that :)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 13:07
"that" show still haunt you, does it? :heh:

IMHO if we remove the mythical lines, puns, cameo in L*S, it will reduce significantly its taste (meh that's just me anyway ~~)

bleh, as long as they keep the same structure (especially the Lucky Channel), i'm fine with that :)

I honestly have no real idea what its referring to, but it does not strike me as funny, where as the drum sequence was fairly tongue in cheek and well executed in comparison. It's more like something he ad-libbed on the spot because he knew it would work in his favour.

Keep Lucky Channel at the end, though as you say. It had one moment in episode two where she made him read the script that coincided with what happened in the first skit that I thought was amusing, but other than that they really need to work on something else other than Akira being cute, than obnoxious, then cute again. It was basically the same thing two episodes in a row other than the script thing.

Daniel E.
2007-04-19, 13:10
^ Actually, it looks like Akira will use Minoru, for some sly plans : disrupting the actual show cast, and jacking one place for her personal use... and fame :heh:

Oh you are right, that last bit Akira said.... it does seems as she is planning something.

Could it be that Akira...... will end up as the "Evil" character of the show. :p

Vexx
2007-04-19, 13:16
Yeah well.

I wonder how the prospects of a beach parody episode look by the way. Picture this it's Summer Vacation and they decide to take a vacation at the beach and I suppose some pseudo-romantic scene occurs that Konata makes light of in reference to some dating-sim conventions. Maybe they all line up in a row and do the bust-size comparison that appears every now adays with the loser crying, the winner looking shy and the second place looking quite proud of herself. Miyuki of course will be afraid of the water, which will lead to something amusing and we will likely find out that Konata is a good swimmer since she seems to be uber at everything (which I swear is a reference to the fact that Aya Hirano always seems to end up in roles where she plays supergirls in fairly bad shows, not including Haruhi).

Not if they follow the manga (which they have so far) ... there is a beach trip or two where the teacher & their local beat cop take the kids to the beach but its a fairly minor moment. None of what you mention happens at all - and I'd be kind of annoyed if it did.

I don't think there are so many references to other Kyo-Ani stuff as people think as there are just common cultural memes that play through all of these (like styles of clothing, for example).

I don't recall that Miyuki is afraid of the water so much as afraid to open her eyes under the water.

Part of the difficulty with this show is that it portrays a fangirl -- so by definition she's going to refer to current fads and events at the time the comic was produced. The comic manages the neat trick of genericizing references so that they don't explicit apply to a product (like Megatokyo or Penny Arcade or Bloom County do). So... just because Konata plays an MMO doesn't mean she's playing the MMO of your favorite choice exactly (rather like the new comic lfgcomic.com only sort-of exists in a WoW world).

Really, Lucky*Star *is* sticking to the comic material for the most part (outside of Lucky*Channel which appears to be a self-mocking omake aside).

Manatsu
2007-04-19, 13:16
After watching ep 2, I got curious and went to check out the drama CD. I'm now quite curious how the Japanese fans are reacting to the cast change. Personally I think the anime cast is in no way inferior to the A-lists seiyuus in the drama cd, in fact I think I prefer the anime cast. Of course you are hearing it from one who understands limited Japanese, perhaps I have also become attached to the anime cast.

Imo Aya did a good job on Konata's voice, she is like mumbling through her lines at a fast pace and sometimes in one breath (woah is that an in-joke about this when Kagami and Tsukasa were wondering what's her part-time job??). I think it's an interesting style for Konata's somewhat grouchy personality and it gives her lines a distinctive flavour. Kagami in the drama CD seems to be slightly more loud and dramatic than the anime Kagami especially when delivering the punchlines. I prefer the less exaggerated anime version as it fits her image in the manga better. The one character in the drama cd that really struck me as awesome was Yukino Satsuki's protrayal of Patricia Martin. Not sure how Sasaki Nozomi will do with that role as I've never heard her voice before, but I'll be looking forward to her appearance.

Anyway, to talk a bit about ep 2... I really like the scene where the girls were laughing at Kona-chan's ugly face. It's really infectious, I can't help but smile along when all three girls went from half-suppressing to bursting into fits of laughter. There's also the first part of ep 2 right up to the study session, the drama cd also have a similar skit taken from the manga. And to think that Konata made a comment about the benefits of a cast change between anime and drama cd in the same episode, it's kind of funny because it's like KyoAni is posing a challenge to themselves and to the old fans to listen properly to the new cast.


http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/6024/ep02parody01256c25fpskd0.gif (http://imageshack.us)

What's funny is that they didn't forget to include Gainax's bouncing trademark in the reference. :heh:

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 13:21
Oh you are right, that last bit Akira says.... it does seems as she is planning something.

Could it be that Akira...... will end up as the "Evil" character of the show. :p

Before I go into this, I want to see a show of hands if possible though. How many people other than me got the "Change Getter" reference?

Okay then:

Maybe she's the one creating all the pallet swaps of the girls in an attempt to descredit them. In fact, I bet she shows up in disguise as one of the characters only she has swapped her colours out for Kagami or something.

Also, has anyone ever considered what exactly Lucky Channel is. It doesn't appear to be a TV show they watch, nor is there a clear division between the end of the episode and its showing. It just kind of show up out of nowhere with each episode and breaks the fourth wall. Both Seiyuu involved in it don't seem to have any sort of stake in its existence as some sort of vehicle, so what gives. Is it meant to fill time? It's clear its meant to parody idol type personalities by showing that they obviously aren't entirely like how they are portrayed on TV, but I'm not sure why 3 minutes of an episode needs to be devoted to that. This is one of the greater mysteries of the series.

I also figured out that the food sequence in the first episode seems to be a reference to food being used as a plot device for pseudo-character development in a lot of Moeish series. In reality it doesn't work and that's what was shown in the segments of the episode where we would normally be doing character development in most series. Episode 4 of Kanon devoted even more time to food and food related topics throughout, then episode 1 of LS did.

Vexx
2007-04-19, 13:23
Having heard the drama CD now ... meh... I don't see the inherent superiority of the CD group over the anime group or viceversa. The emphasis is a bit different depending on the character (like Kagami being brassier in the CD rather than plaintatively "why me?" in the anime while dealing with Kona's antics). Aya's reading of Kona just seems to fit the part nicely (brooding, long-winded, almost muttering) but then that kind of reminds me of my older son's geekgrrl friend when she's in the same modes.
ymmv, obviously. She's got some of the biggest rambling speech bubbles in the comic (outside of Miyuki, who sounds like a walking wikipedia most of the time because they always go to her for the "official explanation")

edit: Lucky*Channel is just pure omake ... apparently inserted to kill time (though it is rather funny) and provide some self-mockery of the industry (not just the idols but the whole thing). I think it'll get boring unless they bring in more characters though (fixed number of jokes one can do there).

The food sequence comes right out of the comic... (first volume). In a way, it was a 'small-talk' method of establishing character personalities. The comic doesn't hit that scene until a few pages in... the first few pages seem to be kind of random as if the creator was trying to figure out how to get started.

Deathkillz
2007-04-19, 13:29
Also, has anyone ever considered what exactly Lucky Channel is.
i have and came up with the reason that it is showing (or rather taking the piss) the viewers what and how celebrities really think behind the camera's but this time doing in front of them ~ great to see a false mask come right off seeing akira revealing her real thoughts about the situation (in ep 1's case its the question on money)

Ffenix Rising
2007-04-19, 13:49
Also, has anyone ever considered what exactly Lucky Channel is.

Lucky Channel has been around for quite a while now, long before the anime premiered. It's an online radio talk show and it's now on its 14th radio episode.

Source: http://lantis-net.com/rakisuta/

It's a kind of supplement to the Lucky Star web site ever since the site became live. It's a vehicle to promote anything related to Comptiq (video games), Lantis (music CDs) and sometimes Kyoto Animation.

For more info: http://www.lucky-ch.com/

By the way, if any of you would like to listen to previous radio episodes of Lucky Channel, here's the link: http://lantis-net.com/rakisuta/backnumber/radio.html

Manatsu
2007-04-19, 14:14
Having heard the drama CD now ... meh... I don't see the inherent superiority of the CD group over the anime group or viceversa. The emphasis is a bit different depending on the character (like Kagami being brassier in the CD rather than plaintatively "why me?" in the anime while dealing with Kona's antics). Aya's reading of Kona just seems to fit the part nicely (brooding, long-winded, almost muttering) but then that kind of reminds me of my older son's geekgrrl friend when she's in the same modes.
ymmv, obviously. She's got some of the biggest rambling speech bubbles in the comic (outside of Miyuki, who sounds like a walking wikipedia most of the time because they always go to her for the "official explanation")


Cool you expressed it better than I did. Looks like we both thought to check out the drama cd at the same time. :heh:

Kai1
2007-04-19, 14:18
I actually liked the lucky channel part at the end. It's fresh and satirical.
I rather have that instead of an ED song I'm going to fast forward to the preview after I've heard it once.
And you guys picked up a lot of references. I didn't get the wowowow part until someone explained it.
This ep is great and this anime is one of the betters ones of this season.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 14:21
Lucky Channel has been around for quite a while now, long before the anime premiered. It's an online radio talk show and it's now on its 14th radio episode.

Source: http://lantis-net.com/rakisuta/

It's a kind of supplement to the Lucky Star web site ever since the site became live. It's a vehicle to promote anything related to Comptiq (video games), Lantis (music CDs) and sometimes Kyoto Animation.

For more info: http://www.lucky-ch.com/

By the way, if any of you would like to listen to previous radio episodes of Lucky Channel, here's the link: http://lantis-net.com/rakisuta/backnumber/radio.html

I'm glad you brought this to light. So people are head over heels for a hidden promotional scheme vehicle. I pretty well guessed as much, as it didn't seem to fit with the show and it seemed there was a commercial reason it was included. It's actually kind of worse than I imagined and I suppose its only a matter of time before it starts trying to subliminally advertise stuff to the viewer within the show as its website equivalent did. Since I'd never buy anything it advertised anyway I'm not too worried though.

errorrrr
2007-04-19, 14:27
dude... stop arguing about this... LUcky Star are not suppose to have any character developments... have you guys actually read about what the author's intention is at the back of the manga ?? ... it's just for a good giggle... i haven't even see any of those reference in the manga, it's just KyoAni's idea to put those reference... I read the manga just find and enjoyed it just as much without any of the references.

Ffenix Rising
2007-04-19, 14:27
I'm glad you brought this to light. So people are head over heels for a a hidden promotional scheme vehicle. I pretty well guessed as much, as it didn't seem to fit with the show and it seemed there was a commercial reason it was included. It's actually kind of worse than I imagined and I suppose its only a matter of time before it starts trying to subliminally advertise stuff to the viewer within the show as its website equivalent did. Since I'd never by anything it advertised anyway I'm not too worried though.

It's a commercial vehicle ONLY on the online radio show. So far, the anime version of Lucky Channel just exploits about anime and fandom itself.

I find it funny how you make everything about Lucky Star seems so evil and dangerous. "Promotional scheme," "subliminal advertising," jeez, it's not like it's the first time it's been done.

Have you forgot that Gundam, Transformers, G.I. Joe were commercial vehicles for toys?

Lighten up, is all I'm saying. :)

EDIT: By the way, thanks for the Rep, though I think you might take it back after this post. XD

FatPianoBoy
2007-04-19, 14:28
I honestly think people are blowing Lucky Channel out of proportion both ways.
(Covers avatar :heh:)
It's funny now, but for how long it will continue to be funny, I don't know. The idea a few pages back about Akira plotting to take over the show using Minoru was fun, and it'll have to start doing something different soon if it's going to remain entertaining. I could certainly roll with this turning into a weird Pinky and the Brain after a while.
It's value isn't depreciated just because it's spun off of a radio promotion. I could see them using it to advertise the DVD's and OST's when they drop (acceptable), but other than that I don't think we have to worry about being brainwashed by pink hair.

Nemo_N
2007-04-19, 14:41
I'm glad you brought this to light. So people are head over heels for a hidden promotional scheme vehicle. I pretty well guessed as much, as it didn't seem to fit with the show and it seemed there was a commercial reason it was included. It's actually kind of worse than I imagined and I suppose its only a matter of time before it starts trying to subliminally advertise stuff to the viewer within the show as its website equivalent did. Since I'd never buy anything it advertised anyway I'm not too worried though.

Oh God. You're right. We are such a bunch of idiots. Thank God we have people like you (so level-headed) to make us realize our foolish ways.

Ffenix Rising
2007-04-19, 14:45
So uh yeah, anyone want to buy a shirt?

I really want to buy this Lucky Star shirt:
Will fix the image later, for now here's the link: http://www.hlj.com/images/csp/csp20262.jpg
Just hit refresh, if it doesn't load. KTHXBYE.


But dang it, it's discontinued! :sad:

rooboy
2007-04-19, 14:49
Lucky Channel has been around for quite a while now, long before the anime premiered. It's an online radio talk show and it's now on its 14th radio episode. Is it anything like the one they animate? This has me seriously intrigued now.

Risaa
2007-04-19, 14:49
As pointed out earlier, Lucky Channel will get old very quickly if it continues to go the "Akira-sama genki -- Akira-sama crazy -- Akira-sama genki" route. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but I doubt KyoAni will let their viewers become bored with the same sequence over and over. I can just see Akira-sama going on a rampage and getting dragged off the show, Lucky Channel getting cancelled, and Akira-sama trying to get revenge and draw attention to herself during the regular Lucky Star show. :p

Vexx
2007-04-19, 14:56
As Ffenix-rising will notice.. other sites often do not like having their bandwidth pixied by image lifting. Copy it over to a site like Imageshack (specially set up for cross-site linkage).

I'm going to have to agree you're going overboard a tad, Kaoshin :) -- to some extent, by definition, anime and cartoons exist to sell merchandise. Lucky*Channel, so far, skewers the online radio show more than it sells it (though people are apt to go check the show out after seeing the anime).

And I still contend there are far fewer "references" to other shows in the anime and manga than people are seeing. What they're seeing are culture-wide memes (most of which are reflected in the manga). The author is operating in the same vein as Yotsuba& -- as in its a story about "small stuff". The clothing, games, foods, day-to-day activities are what make up most people's lives. Good grief, those hats and jumpers that people attribute to Ayu-refs are just common everyday clothing. "Oh look, she's wearing jeans!!!! That's just like Fubar from GaoGaoGaoWai!!!!" <ahem> My wife has one of those jumper things .... she'd never heard of Ayu til recently.

Ffenix Rising
2007-04-19, 14:57
Is it anything like the one they animate? This has me seriously intrigued now.

Close, unfortunately, you don't get to hear Akira-sama's melancholy, pissed-off side. It's only a regular radio show, but with the cute sounding Akira.

Aside from obvious blurbs about Comptiq's products, they do talk about the pop-culture business (mostly anime, manga and video games). Very normal stuff. :heh:

As Ffenix-rising will notice.. other sites often do not like having their bandwidth pixied by image lifting. Copy it over to a site like Imageshack (specially set up for cross-site linkage).

Ahahaha, the browser's internal cache fooled me, I thought the image would work. Will fix later... I'm going to lunch.

Kyuusai
2007-04-19, 15:19
Close, unfortunately, you don't get to hear Akira-sama's melancholy, pissed-off side. It's only a regular radio show, but with the cute sounding Akira.

Well, you don't get to hear it constantly, but the true-Akira does pop up. :D

I think one reason I like Akira is that her actions pretty much mimic my experience with most Japanese women in my family and circle of family friends. :heh:

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 15:30
As Ffenix-rising will notice.. other sites often do not like having their bandwidth pixied by image lifting. Copy it over to a site like Imageshack (specially set up for cross-site linkage).

I'm going to have to agree you're going overboard a tad, Kaoshin :) -- to some extent, by definition, anime and cartoons exist to sell merchandise. Lucky*Channel, so far, skewers the online radio show more than it sells it (though people are apt to go check the show out after seeing the anime).

And I still contend there are far fewer "references" to other shows in the anime and manga than people are seeing. What they're seeing are culture-wide memes (most of which are reflected in the manga). The author is operating in the same vein as Yotsuba& -- as in its a story about "small stuff". The clothing, games, foods, day-to-day activities are what make up most people's lives. Good grief, those hats and jumpers that people attribute to Ayu-refs are just common everyday clothing. "Oh look, she's wearing jeans!!!! That's just like Fubar from GaoGaoGaoWai!!!!" <ahem> My wife has one of those jumper things .... she'd never heard of Ayu til recently.

After reading the below post about never seeing the other side of Akira on the real radio show, I think you are right about the skewering. Oh well, that's good then as I don't like being advertised to directly during a show.

Change Getter was a clear reference to Getter Robo, while the others such as Keroro and Hare Hare Yukai were just kind of there. Like you said though, everything else takes a larger scope regarding the world we the viewers live in, which is a bit rare, but certainly welcome from a Kyoto Animation production. I was just as confused as you are about the jumper's being referred to as Ayu's, same goes with somebody mentioning that the school clothes look like those in Haruhi, when they in fact look nothing remotely like them in design and are just your common sailor fuku.

I'm wondering if ignorance is bliss in regard to Kyoto Animation poking fun at Otaku meme's they helped foster, and to make up for this people are going looking for comparison's to other Kyoto Animation productions that they can point to as examples of the show continuing to promote Otakuism, rather than parody it. There were a lot of times when I seemed to notice Haruhi doing the same thing, but other posters were so adamant that Haruhi was the right one and not the normal people, that I believed them.

Maybe that series is worth another look. I also noted the idea that rejecting the current world in that show was presented in the end as taking an easy, cowards way out like some Hikkikomori would, and that by not doing so Haruhi was saved and began to integrate better with the group afterward and the trouble stopped. I have other theories about that show being symbolic of a daydream of escapism somebody would have and that Haruhi has created a world within her own mind that the characters inhabit from time to time, but I'll save that for another time.

Vexx
2007-04-19, 15:31
Ahhhhhh, Kyuusai gets the high-pitched glee with spasms of growly scariness as well, ne? <peals of laughter>

And yes, there are a few *clear* references to other shows or otaku memes in L*S ... but they're in context with the sort of things Kona-chan would connect the dots to. If she weren't a geekgrrl, then I'd be labeling them as intrusive.

I'm going to avoid discussing other Kyo-Ani shows from this point unless they relate directly to L*S but one channel of the Haruhi series multi-channel adventure is the idea of what if someone *could* remake their reality on a whim and without realizing it (a descending notion from a couple of Twilight Zone and Outer Limit shows as well as tumbling about in science fiction stories). Nothing in Haruhi is really original as far as story notions be it the physics, metaphysics, philosophy, archetype subversion, or whatever -- it was just the integration, packaging, and execution of those motifs that made it entertaining for me.

eupseudes
2007-04-19, 15:36
I've watch the episode twice (once with the L-C subs and second time with the a.f.k subs) and I realized that I did not fully "get" the Lucky Channel segment the first time I watched it: I figured it was just bipolar Akira ranting about voice-acting: funny, but a little stale. Seeing from a few of the other comments in the thread, my sentiments appear to be shared.

So, let me see if my new interpretation is correct: Akira is mad at the Lucky Star cast because she's been relegated to the last portion of the show and doesn't actually have any substantial lines in the show. The script their holding is the actual Lucky Star script (I wonder if the scene numbers actually line up), and indeed Minoru shows up during the anime (one of the two male voices in this week's show, the other being the twin's dad). Minoru also shows up 15:21 [a.f.k. time] "stiff as a board" (completely missed it first time around because I was paying attention to the dialogue). That combined with the Haruhi reference (had to dig out the old ep and check the scene because it didn't immediately click) made that portion hilarious.

Besides these subtle easter eggs and a nice dosage of introspection into the anime, I don't think Akira will seriously disrupt the main segment: that would be too Excel-esque for Lucky Star's style of humor (Excel Saga was absolutely off-the-wall, although the guy with the afro in the arcade scene may have been a subtle nod... or maybe not). We might see her in the background, though, causing havoc. ^_^

pomps
2007-04-19, 15:42
Miyuki without her glass, still a walking moe element :D.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8482/miyukiub2.th.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/my.php?image=miyukiub2.jpg)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 15:50
Ahhhhhh, Kyuusai gets the high-pitched glee with spasms of growly scariness as well, ne? <peals of laughter>

And yes, there are a few *clear* references to other shows or otaku memes in L*S ... but they're in context with the sort of things Kona-chan would connect the dots to. If she weren't a geekgrrl, then I'd be labeling them as intrusive.

I'm going to avoid discussing other Kyo-Ani shows from this point unless they relate directly to L*S but one channel of the Haruhi series multi-channel adventure is the idea of what if someone *could* remake their reality on a whim and without realizing it (a descending notion from a couple of Twilight Zone and Outer Limit shows as well as tumbling about in science fiction stories). Nothing in Haruhi is really original as far as story notions be it the physics, metaphysics, philosophy, archetype subversion, or whatever -- it was just the integration, packaging, and execution of those motifs that made it entertaining for me.

This gave me a breakthrough of sorts. If we consider that the Lucky Star universe is the same as our universe then of course you'd be seeing all these shows that exist in our universe popping up in the form of toys, posters, games etc. They aren't references to other shows so much as the shows exist in the Lucky Star Universe, because it is ours.

Vexx
2007-04-19, 16:03
The manga actually steps and gives most of the characters a family and parent(s) that really interact with the students. Major plusplusgood all by itself for that. There's some hilarious bits with Kona and her dad (who has a platonic crush on her because she reminds him of her departed mother, yes, its platonic - shut up and sit down :) ).

Here's hoping we see a lot of that in the anime as well. Its a good sign we got to meet the twins' family.

Telliamed
2007-04-19, 17:21
What's funny is that they didn't forget to include Gainax's bouncing trademark in the reference. :heh:

Oh my... Can you imagine how evil it would be if KyoAni did an entire anime Gainax-style?


Going back to the left-handedness of the girls (I'm not going to bother finding the original posts again)... re-watching ep2 I noticed that the twins' dad is right-handed, and their mother and sister are lefties. So I thought maybe left = female and right = male -- Konata is ambidextrous because she's a female otaku.

But in the test-taking scene, all the classmates (male and female) were right-handed. Oh well.

Miyuki without her glass, still a walking moe element :D.
What's the atomic weight of moe on the periodic table of anime?

Vexx
2007-04-19, 17:50
well.. the OP cheerleading sequence is certainly bouncerific.....

Sun-Ku
2007-04-19, 18:28
hmmm The Cheerleeding part of the song... Reminds me of one paticular song. Well is it the School rumble girls song? Dunno

Kisuke06
2007-04-19, 18:58
Not the second episode was very good. Great parts such as the book discussion and Kagami wasting money on that machine. And I suppose this show won't get a proper ED...

Alexandrite
2007-04-19, 19:33
The clothing, games, foods, day-to-day activities are what make up most people's lives. Good grief, those hats and jumpers that people attribute to Ayu-refs are just common everyday clothing.
But of course, but since Kanon just finished, that's the image that stuck in my mind. Even if the clothes are something anyone would wear, I wouldn't put it past the guys at KyoAni to put something like that in, knowing what some people are going to think when they see the outfit.

Of course, then there's the possibility that she wore that in the manga (I wouldn't know, since I have no access to it). In that case, everything I just stated is irrelevant and I've just made myself look foolish.

Vexx
2007-04-19, 19:40
That's the tricky part of course.... (whether kyo-ani just adds things to mess with the viewer).
I have the first 3 volumes, I'll flip them after I get home to see....

Alexandrite
2007-04-19, 19:46
Well, that would certainly help sate my curiousity either way. :D

Samatarou
2007-04-19, 20:08
Since the L☆S author is called Kagami, I wonder if the Kagami character is herself? The way she’s depicted as the sensible one makes me think she could be a mary sue (or is that mary jane, I can never remember these fanfic terms)

Re HD v. usual AVIs—the reason pseudo-HD looks better is that normal raws/fansubs are reduced vertically, if they converted the 704x480 broadcasts into 856x480 instead of 704x396 then all the detail would be retained.

krln99
2007-04-19, 21:11
From what I've read, the LS author is actually a guy, which is strannge because Kagami just sounds like a girl's name.

BTW, is there a cheerleading anime or something upon which that part of the OP could be based? If not, I'm convinced it's based on the outro of the Japanese drama Dance*Drill, which is about cheerleading.

Vexx
2007-04-19, 21:24
Well, that would certainly help sate my curiousity either way. :D

I had not paid a lot of attention before.. these girls wear quite a wide variety of different sorts of clothing (very cute stuff) -- definitely not the "cartoon character has one outfit" problem. They're quite a little fashion show ... even Konata-chan.

I found examples of both Kagami and her sister wearing these jumpers also found a pic of the "Ayu/Asa-mom" hat being worn. I'll scan a few more interesting pics and post them later tonight.

As to the gender of the author... I'm really not sure. The author draws themself as a cat (last couple of pages in each volume) --- that cat in the eyecatch and episode titles (bag'o'fur with tail).

Telliamed
2007-04-19, 21:38
well.. the OP cheerleading sequence is certainly bouncerific.....

Quite...

I dare someone to take this and HareHare and advertise to US high schools as a "choreography consultant". They show cheerleading on ESPN. I'd find it rather mind-blowing if one of these dances showed up there.

Oh god... I just noticed, Near the end of the first bit, after the jumping, they all make heart shapes with their fingers.... Evil. Pure Evil.

Therion
2007-04-19, 21:42
Any chance of a offical looking Akira-chan sig, since I know theres those 3 small .gif ones...

Level E
2007-04-19, 21:56
Going back to the left-handedness of the girls ?

99% of the cast in Lucky Star are left handed.
The only ones that aren't are Konata, Soujirou, Patricia, Yui, and Akira. Both Izumis are ambidextrous. I'm not sure about Miki, Inori, Matsuri, and Tadao or the other characters that only have a name but never in the series itself (Kiyotaka, Kanata, and Yuki).

Anime Online
2007-04-19, 22:05
It's been bothering me for awhile, but does anyone else see the similarity between Kuroi-sensei and Haruko Kamio (Air TV)?

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/339/kansaime5.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kansaime5.jpg)

Both of them look kinda similar. And not only that, their hair are tied at the back in a similar fashion. Most tellingly, they both use Kansai dialect.


[EDIT for grammar]

Daniel E.
2007-04-19, 22:34
Any chance of a offical looking Akira-chan sig, since I know theres those 3 small .gif ones...

Hmmm, what do you mean by "official looking sigs" :confused:

The only one posting sigs recently has been KiNa, if you mean those then he'll probably make an Akira one once he finds a suitable source pic.

~Tsukuyomi
2007-04-19, 22:50
It's been bothering me for awhile, but does anyone else see the similarity between Kuroi-sensei and Haruko Kamio (Air TV)?

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/339/kansaime5.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kansaime5.jpg)

Both of them look kinda similar. And not only that, their hair are tied at the back in a similar fashion. Most tellingly, they both use Kansai dialect.


[EDIT for grammar]

You are probably jumping the gun a bit... Don't think KyoAni will think that far when making Lucky Star...

Vexx
2007-04-19, 23:00
Here's some imagery on clothing and stuff from the manga (which dates to 2004) that relates to the conversation I was having a few posts up:

spoilered for anyone fearful of seeing *anything* from the manga and there's a pic of Kona's parents in addition to some fashion pics from the comic


The 'Ayu' hat ---
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9954/lshaten7.th.jpg (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lshaten7.jpg)
The jumper --- Kagami also has one with a suspender type backside ---
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3184/lsjumperxn4.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lsjumperxn4.jpg)
Proof that Kona has boobs (frame 1) and she's the "it girl" when it comes to hair :):
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/7721/lskonair9.th.jpg (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lskonair9.jpg)
A cartoon version of myself and my wife (actually its a pic of Kona's parents) -- I'm actually a bit taller and my wife tops out just above my sternum. She's got the antenna hair though and its long like that ... actually my hair is much longer than Kona-dad as well.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6471/lskonalolimomdaddj7.th.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lskonalolimomdaddj7.jpg)

FatPianoBoy
2007-04-19, 23:01
It's been bothering me for awhile, but does anyone else see the similarity between Kuroi-sensei and Haruko Kamio (Air TV)?

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/339/kansaime5.th.jpg (http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kansaime5.jpg)

Both of them look kinda similar. And not only that, their hair are tied at the back in a similar fashion. Most tellingly, they both use Kansai dialect.


[EDIT for grammar]

It's possible that they're both derived from the same KyoAni design ;)


(Note: There's a running gag that all KyoAni's women look similar and are only distinguishable by their hairstyles)

MakubeX2
2007-04-19, 23:13
Speaking of which, Vexx, you still own us prove of the loli wife claim you make at MT.

Alexandrite
2007-04-19, 23:19
Here's some imagery on clothing and stuff from the manga (which dates to 2004) that relates to the conversation I was having a few posts up:

spoilered for anyone fearful of seeing *anything* from the manga and there's a pic of Kona's parents in addition to some fashion pics from the comic

Well then, I stand corrected. Thanks for the scan and insight. I can now mark it down as a fun little coincidence. :heh:

Clarste
2007-04-19, 23:25
It's possible that they're both derived from the same KyoAni design ;)


(Note: There's a running gag that all KyoAni's women look similar and are only distinguishable by their hairstyles)

KyoAni primarily does adaptations. They are very far removed from the character design process, other than minor stylistic tweaks to streamline animation. Hairstyle, dialect, etc, are chosen by the original character designers long before KyoAni enters the picture.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 23:30
Tell me who you are. Seriously. Maybe then I'll consider it.

CrowKenobi
2007-04-19, 23:31
Lucky Star sigs up for grabs: :D

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/4411/asluckystarkagami2vp0.jpg

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/9950/asluckystarkonata1sy6.jpg

:cool:

Dandruff
2007-04-19, 23:33
So...."big' question is....when will this get it's own forum? xDD

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 23:36
So...."big' question is....when will this get it's own forum? xDD

Ask Monir. Otherwise this has been covered as, its tentatively not getting one.

By the way how does this Sig look. I thought I'd do this for a day. Deceitful, HA!

~Tsukuyomi
2007-04-19, 23:40
So...."big' question is....when will this get it's own forum? xDD

Yes, the people speaks that this anime needs its own forum... Its only 2 episode and has 73 pages... Also, I need an image topic for me to make lots of siggy...

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-19, 23:43
Yes, the people speaks that this anime needs its own forum... Its only 2 episode and has 73 pages... Also, I need an image topic for me to make lots of siggy...

Why don't they take Kanon of and then put this up. I suppose a swap-out couldn't hurt in the long run. Then when this is over they could swap out for Clannad. This is why I seriously think all could be solved by reserving slots for the major companies like Bones, Gonzo, Sunrise, Kyoto Animation and Gainax.

CrowKenobi
2007-04-20, 00:00
Lucky☆Ryoko Asakura:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5742/1177000569517qp5.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1177000569517qp5.jpg)

:heh:

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 00:12
Lucky☆Ryoko Asakura:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5742/1177000569517qp5.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1177000569517qp5.jpg)

:heh:

Why is her hair purple?

Panzer Bandit
2007-04-20, 00:15
I hope I wasn't the only one who got a good chuckle out of Tsukasa and Kagami when they imagined Konata working in a fast-food restaurant. :)

If you ever go to a McDonald's in Japan, order a smile. It's on the menu and free of charge.

:D

Vexx
2007-04-20, 00:20
Speaking of which, Vexx, you still own us prove of the loli wife claim you make at MT.

haha... actually scanned some pics in just now.... I'll give this forum first shot at it. Okay.. these are just thumbnails of a loli-tsundere-wife just to show they exist. Skip if you want:
Okay... here's the woman I married (on our first vacation or two), she was 23 at the time:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1315/wife1ni5.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife1ni5.jpg)http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5498/wife2iq5.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife2iq5.jpg)http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/917/wife3ek6.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife3ek6.jpg)and a bit of tsundere (she whacked me with her fan after that): http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6998/wife4fh2.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife4fh2.jpg)
Here she is recently and you get a view of my ugly mug as a bonus (obligatory dress up pic):
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3509/scange1.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scange1.jpg)and a candid shot (I think I got smacked after that too) of her feeding the backyard birds (in typical weather):http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5158/loli2zs9.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loli2zs9.jpg)

She's about 4'11", still weighs 95lbs like she did then ... her antennae have gotten more extensive and few of them are white.

I simultaneously worship the ground she walks and yet want to strangle her. I know she wants to strangle me often - not sure about the other.

monir
2007-04-20, 00:28
So...."big' question is....when will this get it's own forum? xDD
When will I be able to go to the International Space Station without paying 20 mil for a ride? When will China go to the moon so the cost of space travel can become relatively cheaper? When will human land on Mars? When will Mars will be terraformed? When will Kaioshin Sama warm up to Key and Kyoto Animation, while simultaneously stop agitating a few fans of those names? :heh: When? When?

The answer to all those thought provoking question is: soon. Now please get back on topic. :)

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 00:34
haha... actually scanned some pics in just now.... I'll give this forum first shot at it. Okay.. these are just thumbnails of a loli-tsundere-wife just to show they exist. Skip if you want:
Okay... here's the woman I married (on our first vacation or two), she was 23 at the time:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1315/wife1ni5.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife1ni5.jpg)http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5498/wife2iq5.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife2iq5.jpg)http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/917/wife3ek6.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife3ek6.jpg)and a bit of tsundere (she whacked me with her fan after that): http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6998/wife4fh2.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife4fh2.jpg)
Here she is recently and you get a view of my ugly mug as a bonus (obligatory dress up pic):
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3509/scange1.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scange1.jpg)and a candid shot (I think I got smacked after that too) of her feeding the backyard birds (in typical weather):http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5158/loli2zs9.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loli2zs9.jpg)

She's about 4'11", still weighs 95lbs like she did then ... her antennae have gotten more extensive and few of them are white.

I simultaneously worship the ground she walks and yet want to strangle her. I know she wants to strangle me often - not sure about the other.


Dude you look like a totally badass biker or something. Hot Blooded.

Riker
2007-04-20, 00:35
Lucky☆Ryoko Asakura:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/5742/1177000569517qp5.th.jpg (http://img201.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1177000569517qp5.jpg)

:heh:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8172/yukisuta02af0.th.gif (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=yukisuta02af0.gif) <-- Animated. :3


Lucky☆Kimi Kiss

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7128/1177001383806vz2.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1177001383806vz2.jpg)


Lucky☆Taniguchi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWepisWj8IU


Lucky☆Shana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbT9pYPblG0

Vexx
2007-04-20, 00:41
Dude you look like a totally badass biker or something. Hot Blooded.

i've been accused of that (haven't ridden bikes in ages, they got no armor). Since that pic I dropped the mustache and grew out the rest of the hair for that Capital One barbarian look for SCA re-enactment and Ren Faire nonsense. She dresses as some fluff I picked up on a viking raid "somewhere east" :)

CrazyPerson
2007-04-20, 00:49
...When will Kaioshin Sama warm up to Key and Kyoto Animation, while simultaneously stop agitating a few fans of those names? :heh: When? When?

The answer to all those thought provoking question is: soon. Now please get back on topic. :)

I dunno, I think I sensed a a contradiction between "soon" and "Kaioshin warming up." :)

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone thinks that Lucky*Star will go halfway following the 4-Koma adaption way and then switches to maybe a more plot/story driven type show? I mean, even if there's a lot of material to cover in the manga, there might be the possibility of getting stale like the "villain-of-the-ep" thing from Jigoku Shoujo.

Vexx
2007-04-20, 01:08
I dunno... Azumanga Daioh managed 24ish episodes covering 3 years of high school (lots happened yet nothing happened... so to speak).

Lucky*Star has managed 3 volumes (is the 4th out yet?) of funny without missing much of a beat..... really the series is much like Peanuts --- there's really nowhere to "go", its just life's little bits.

From a series perspective though, you kind of wonder how they'll handle the last episode (not that Paniponi Dash really "ended" either....).

MakubeX2
2007-04-20, 01:25
Like I've put it in MT, LS is the AzuMan for the new breed of Otaku with the anime female archtypes and the moe designs.

Time does pass in LS if you look closely at it with the change in seasons and the character ages. Azuman had 3 years worth of run and this is the 3rd year for LS, so I have reason to believe that LS will be done with both it's anime and 4-koma run around the same time.

JediNight
2007-04-20, 01:29
Except that for whatever inexplicable reason, Chiyo-chan NEVER GROWS! 0_o;;

She's like 11 to start and 14 at the end, and somehow never hit any kind of growth spurt lol... She should look like a HS sophomore by the end of the series. (Rhetorical, yes I know shes the loli of the show)

Vexx
2007-04-20, 01:37
Like I've put it in MT, LS is the AzuMan for the new breed of Otaku with the anime female archtypes and the moe designs.

Time does pass in LS if you look closely at it with the change in seasons and the character ages. Azuman had 3 years worth of run and this is the 3rd year for LS, so I have reason to believe that LS will be done with both it's anime and 4-koma run around the same time.

I've been so busy figuring out what they were saying I haven't really just appreciated the drawings as much as I should in the manga.

(I'm depressed -- I put up all those pics after you poked at me and not a word now :) )

MakubeX2
2007-04-20, 01:37
(I'm depressed -- I put up all those pics after you poked at me and not a word now :) )

What can I say ? I guess it puts a glimmer of hope that anime archtypes does exist in real life.

Except that for whatever inexplicable reason, Chiyo-chan NEVER GROWS! 0_o;;

So does Konata, Kagami express shock when she find Konata still fits into her 6th Grade swimsuit in the manga.

Vexx
2007-04-20, 01:38
ah... I saw that strip but hadn't sat down to translate it yet.... (light dawns as to their expressions).

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 01:48
When will I be able to go to the International Space Station without paying 20 mil for a ride? When will China go to the moon so the cost of space travel can become relatively cheaper? When will human land on Mars? When will Mars will be terraformed? When will Kaioshin Sama warm up to Key and Kyoto Animation, while simultaneously stop agitating a few fans of those names? :heh: When? When?

The answer to all those thought provoking question is: soon. Now please get back on topic. :)

OW! I just untentionally poked myself in the eye and it really freaking hurts :(.

Okay with only one eye, I can answer that question, kind of. For the first one its when they stop trying to gloss over flaws and lack of realistic character development with a depressing and pseudo-dramatic ending (and try not to take offence to this people, its just how I see their stories) and for the second one, I have no real issue with Kyoto Animation other than a perceived lack of originality and some of its zealot like fans.

So basically for the first one its up to the company to the company to wow me for real, and the second one, for gods sake hurry up and do your own series Kyoto like that poll said you guys would and I alone will judge it for myself, I know you can do this if you just try. Oh and do something about the fans who will leave bombs at your doorstep (figuratively speaking in terms of punishing the company with boycotts) if you don't do things a certain way, they aren't helping you, they are holding you back.

Owwwwwwwwww..... forgive me if this makes no sense, I'm kind of in a lot of pain right now, I hope I didn't scratch my retina or something. This isn't really meant to be a tirade against anyone, but just my answer to that question from my point of view, and its an opinion this time. Please don't blame me if this doesn't get its own forum.....heh. Ouch.

MakubeX2
2007-04-20, 02:21
http://i12.tinypic.com/3zbjh2r.jpg

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 02:26
Argument no longer holds water

Daniel E.
2007-04-20, 02:34
Oh noes!! "Miyuki" is the only one who doesnt look all that good in the pic. :p :heh:

Blue Reverie
2007-04-20, 02:39
So people can't make jokesn without it being some big scheme and ad campaign to cash in on the latest craze? :rolleyes: Lighten up man. People will always make these kinda references, always have and always wil. And yes ESPECIALLY because it is popular. And the show was sadly never gonna be "small profile" percisely because of who is making it.


On a more important note:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2962/luckystar2konata1zr4.gif I'd like to use this if I may.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 02:53
In fact this argument no longer holds water. Doh!

Pellissier
2007-04-20, 03:00
On a more important note:
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/2962/luckystar2konata1zr4.gif I'd like to use this if I may.
Sure, go ahead.

I've properly watched episode 2 with afk subs. Since the show is divided in parts, so it's my brief commentary:

- Kagami & Tsukasa's golden week: probably the best part of the episode. It flowed very smoothly and was at the same time funny and relaxing.
- "That's not right!" : there isn't such an enjoyable thing as to see Kagami going nuts for Konata's successes :heh:
- Arcade: brilliant on each single part. (KonaKona .. lol)
- Drills and dentists : references aside, boring. It reminded me of the food discussion on episode 1, meaning a dialogue with a tendency of being too redundant. It's the only part of this episode where I felt slightly bored as it progressed. It proves as I prefere a bit of "action" aside them being in the class and speaking.
- Making a face: the way they depicted the girls' laughing faces was wonderful. And Kagami's "it isn't even human!" is the funniest quote of the week :)
- Switching seiyuus: auto-parody is something I highly admire. Especially because I'm not sure if in LS it was such a bad idea to change the caste (on the contrary I can't find a single flaw on the current one).
- Konata's job: good, though they could have shown maid Konata as well.
- Lucky Channel: I absolutely adore Akira's double sided personality. As standalone this part was weaker than the counterpart in episode 1 (except for Akira's disgusted face at "Nani sore?"), unless it's building something to develop in the future.
- Karaoke: I'm not too fond of it (even if I have watched those shows, the songs had probably been dubbed, so they're not a memory to me) , but I like that way to depict Konata's "culture" and especially to hear Hirano Aya sing in that way.

References: I only got Keroro, Haruhi and the discussion about the drama cd as a self-parody. I totally missed "wawawawa", but I think it meant to be really really acknowledged on SHNY to remember of such a detail. So congrats to who got it at first attempt ;)

Consistent progresses from episode one make my rating for this a 9

Kaoru Chujo
2007-04-20, 03:04
Okay. I've now seen ep2 three times and my verdict is in: this is a great show. I was feeling suppressed laughter most of the way through. Once again: not hilarious, but just right.

The character design (original and adaptation) works really well, as do the voices and the rhythms. And the overall look is so clean and enjoyable. It wouldn't matter which studio's name was attached to this, for me it would still be highly amusing.

I never tire of the OP. And all the jokes and variations on the show are lots of fun.

Now that I know I heard them correctly, I want to say again what a gas it is to have them talking about drama CD cast vs. anime cast. High-class modern entertainment.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 03:10
So absolutely nobody got the blatantly obvious "Change Getter" one eh. That makes me quite sad actually. At least I can hold the claim that I got a joke that nobody else got, but in turn that also makes me a bit of a supernerd otaku. Oh well.....I guess the older the show referenced the less likely it is to be picked up on. I suppose I'll play the old man role, you know the guy who knows how "things were in my days" and always wants to talk about them. That is if I haven't been disowned for being the commercialism nazi. I am already shaping up to be a cranky bitter old man the way things are going for me.

Hey Kaoru's back. You know that's just about how I feel if just the teensiest bit less enthuastic. The just right balance between comedy and subtlety has been winning me over slowly, but there are minor issues indirectly related to the show that are still holding me back from fully embracing it.

Vexx
2007-04-20, 03:11
It's mostly that now I get to hear about what a great idea for an ad-campaign this was for the entirety of the weekend across the internet, knowing that all it is is a still picture with the characters made to look like Lucky Star characters with no logical context for it being so.

I think its more cross-reference incestual advertising than anything else. Kind of like, oh I don't know, a Seinfeld dream sequence where everyone is dressed like a character on Star Trek. Wouldn't it be funny if we had characters from Show X dress and act like Show Y.

Yeah, its funny the first few times.... but at best its just silly after that (not in a good way).
I think I saw dozens of "take the characters (like from Nanoha) and have them in a line shaking their fingers and wiggling their hips" and I'm not even sure what the hell show *that* was supposed to be riffing from.

"change getter" ... several people picked up on it (though I think mostly over on the MT forum). Its pretty clear that Kona has special reverence for the "classics" and that no one around her has any idea what she is talking about half the time. Come on, Kaoshin, you ought to relate very strongly to Konata :)

Skane
2007-04-20, 03:21
It's mostly that now I get to hear about what a great idea for an ad-campaign this was for the entirety of the weekend across the internet. It's just...ugh, I'm just kind of tired of the whole drama over this company and the silliness that goes into discussing everything they do as if their methods are somehow infinintely cleverer than others who would, have and are doing the same thing. It's an endless cycle. I know they aren't the only ones who would use techniques like this, because Sunrise did it a while back with a Bandai Toy Camera that had nothing to do with Gundam's, but involved Zaku's advertising it. I also know that in this case they aren't really involved as its a Comptiq thing.

My gripe here is that to my knowledge they are the only company that is ever praised exstensively for ads they are directly or indirectly involved in and why is that? I know why, but I also don't really understand why. It's just one of those bizarre pet peeves of mine that is hard to explain, and I have others outside of anime as well.
1min job, and yes, I know Miyuki is barely noticeable.
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1382/paranoiazm9.th.jpg (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=paranoiazm9.jpg)

You seem to have forgotten my earlier explanation already...

Okay, fine. Let me use an analogy to aid you here.

I am sure you are familiar with the adage, "Frog in the Well"? This is because it applies to you very well here right now. You are questioning the presence of Lucky Star related material in a thread dedicated to the discussion of Lucky Star.

Let that last sentence sink into your mind for a while.
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Has any logic switches click yet?

I dunno about you, but I barely see any discussion of Lucky Star in the other AnimeSuki forums. That hardly constitutes any level of zealot-ism.

Somebody commented on the HHY-reference? OMG! He's a fanatic! Burn him! Burn him! Witch, witch, witch! Good grief, you remind me of the McCarthy trials at times. It is only "wrong" if a person interjects a discussion with material that is "off-topic". How is commenting on a HHY-reference that is REALLY there any wrong? People commented on the Keroro Gunsou reference too, but I don't see you jumping on their backs for being Keroro Gunsou zealots. Isn't that a bit hypocritical in the grand scheme of things?

I said it once, and I will say it again. You are looking for dragons and ghosts where there are none; or to put it another way, you are trying to start a witch-hunt for no rhyme or reason.

Everytime somebody starts a benign discussion about anything remotely related to KyoAni, you jump in with guns blazing and start derailing the issue with your ill-conceived perceptions about the company and such.

People just want to have fun talking about Lucky Star and the parodies it spawned, but you just seem to want to spoil the fun and spray vinegar into people's eyes and burn the party decorations.

It's okay to gatecrash a party and make some noise (aka criticism); but when you start throwing the cake to the floor, I think that's a problem.

Haiz.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 03:23
I think I saw dozens of "take the characters (like from Nanoha) and have them in a line shaking their fingers and wiggling their hips" and I'm not even sure what the hell show *that* was supposed to be riffing from.

"change getter" ... several people picked up on it (though I think mostly over on the MT forum). Its pretty clear that Kona has special reverence for the "classics" and that no one around her has any idea what she is talking about half the time. Come on, Kaoshin, you ought to relate very strongly to Konata :)

I think the Nanoha thing you are talking about is that Galaxy Angel thing from the opening that people have to superimpose the characters for every popular show over before they can do anything else art related. It's one of the two rules of the anime universe, the other being the Hare Hare Yukai played over the opening thing and people claiming how well it fits. It's been done many many many many times and I'm still not sure why people are still doing it or why its funny. It's the cyclical nature of it all that starts to wear on you after a while as people react as if the first time they've seen it (well perhaps for some people it is, but the more it goes on the more I doubt it).

For something less angry and upset, yes Kona-Chan is the kind of girl I wouldn't mind having as a younger sister. Somebody to play games with, talk about shows with and to generally have fun with. I am all those things though as you said, especially the nobody knows what I'm talking about half the time, although that's because I'm always making vague references to things in conversations in place of actual straightforward discussion. I leave it to other people to figure out what I'm getting at since regular conversations can be kind of dull. Gotta spice things up.

@Skane: Did I really go berserk over an HHY reference.....really..... I don't remember that to be completely honest. I'm starting to see some bad things on the rise though. I owe an apology if that's the case as that doesn't seem like it would be fair at all.

Still, the show appears to be fast going from its Otaku comedy roots into the realm of fulfilling the wishes of the companies fanbase, as my internal alarm tells me. Though perhaps this is an early play of the companies trump card (the remember what we did last summer one) since they probably figured people would be react coldly to the first episode, and thats it for quite a while regarding the Haruhi references, but the fact it worked so damn well has me picturing rewrites to include more and more Haruhi related material further into the show. I should also mention I almost always forsee a worst case scenario in a lot of things so that goes a long way to explaining this prediction. If I were to be rated on a pessimism scale from 1 being pessimistic to 10 being optomistic, I would probably be a 1.3 or something, I admit it.

I really just want this to be Lucky Star and for it to not have to share the stage with the ghosts of Kyoto Animations past. That would ruin the show completely for me, and right now I'm quite enjoying it for what it is. I would be ecstatic to see it succeed on its own without any frequent boosts from references to Haruhi, Kanon, Key and what not.

Can I.... er use that picture by any chance?

Vexx
2007-04-20, 03:52
I'll tend to agree with that... I love the manga for what it is. I really would rather they not wrap it up into some great rolling ball of (what is that silly game where you roll the world up?).

I don't mind the Konata references to fandom stuff ... that's her schtick after all. I'd really rather their dialog or actions stay focused on the manga and not "product placement". So far they've actually done that (and reserved any such stuff for Lucky*Channel). KyoAni is actually pretty good at doing the material (Haruhi has the most "in jokes" I think - Kanon was pretty religious to the game source *mostly*).

Off to bed.... I've got a bunch of errands tomorrow. (heh, someone cookied me for being brave about posting pics of wife and I.... frankly I've left enough clues across the Net that someone who really wanted to find me could anyway)

Sheba
2007-04-20, 03:57
You think of Katamari, Vexx.

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-04-20, 04:01
So absolutely nobody got the blatantly obvious "Change Getter" one eh. That makes me quite sad actually. At least I can hold the claim that I got a joke that nobody else got, but in turn that also makes me a bit of a supernerd otaku. Oh well.....I guess the older the show referenced the less likely it is to be picked up on. I suppose I'll play the old man role, you know the guy who knows how "things were in my days" and always wants to talk about them. That is if I haven't been disowned for being the commercialism nazi. I am already shaping up to be a cranky bitter old man the way things are going for me.

Too bad, I got the joke too. In fact across various anime forums, most people who got the joke don't bother to mention it, precisely because it was too obvious.

But don't worry, Kaioshin_Onesama, you can still play the eternal role of the person who believe KyoAni is evil and attempting world domination through corrupting moe and secret subliminal messages. Chances are they have sinister giant robot monsters in their basement too.:heh:

Ascaloth
2007-04-20, 04:04
haha... actually scanned some pics in just now.... I'll give this forum first shot at it. Okay.. these are just thumbnails of a loli-tsundere-wife just to show they exist. Skip if you want:
Okay... here's the woman I married (on our first vacation or two), she was 23 at the time:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1315/wife1ni5.th.jpg (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife1ni5.jpg)http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5498/wife2iq5.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife2iq5.jpg)http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/917/wife3ek6.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife3ek6.jpg)and a bit of tsundere (she whacked me with her fan after that): http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/6998/wife4fh2.th.jpg (http://img292.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wife4fh2.jpg)
Here she is recently and you get a view of my ugly mug as a bonus (obligatory dress up pic):
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3509/scange1.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=scange1.jpg)and a candid shot (I think I got smacked after that too) of her feeding the backyard birds (in typical weather):http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/5158/loli2zs9.th.jpg (http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=loli2zs9.jpg)

She's about 4'11", still weighs 95lbs like she did then ... her antennae have gotten more extensive and few of them are white.

I simultaneously worship the ground she walks and yet want to strangle her. I know she wants to strangle me often - not sure about the other.


Lucky [insert foul, vulgar, family unfriendly, and utterly unrepeatable word here]. :D :p

It's mostly that now I get to hear about what a great idea for an ad-campaign this was for the entirety of the weekend across the internet, knowing that all it is is a still picture with the characters made to look like Lucky Star characters with no logical context for it being so. It's just...ugh, I'm just kind of tired of the whole drama over this company and the silliness that goes into discussing everything they do as if their methods are somehow infinintely cleverer than others who would, have and are doing the same thing. It's an endless cycle. I almost wonder why they even bother to challenge themselves as they clearly don't even need to. Neg rep me if you want people, but this is a strong view that I hold and I stand by it. Nobody has to agree with it and I don't expect anybody to either, because this is kind of a specific personal gripe.

I know they aren't the only ones who would use techniques like this, because Sunrise did it a while back with a Bandai Toy Camera that had nothing to do with Gundam's, but involved Zaku's advertising it. I also know that in this case they aren't really involved as its a Comptiq thing. An American example would be the use of small animals or small children in commericals completely unrelated animal or dog related products in order to illicit the "awwwwwwww"factor. My gripe here is that to my knowledge they are the only animation company that is ever praised exstensively for ads they are directly or indirectly involved in and why is that? I know why, but I also don't really understand why. It's just one of those bizarre pet peeves of mine that is hard to explain, and I have others outside of anime as well.

So that's that for my pointless social sciences and economics lecture. Believe me I am trying to lighten up, but its becoming one of those two steps, (right-left-right-left) forward 1.5 and half steps back (right-left-right) deals.

You know, I'm starting to think that it's not so much that Kaioshin-chan is specifically an anti-KyoAni-ist, per se......I'm getting the feeling that she's just a natural-born anarchist. Simply put, it doesn't have to be KyoAni; just put anything remotely mainstream-popular in front of her, and she'll have a go at it. :p

I wonder if Kaioshin-chan will turn on Sunrise if it ever gains anywhere near the amount of popularity KyoAni apparently is getting. It'll be tres amusing to watch her go at it. :D

Solace
2007-04-20, 04:04
I don't think we'll be going down the road of self parody here, but I expect references like Haruhi to pop up enough. I think it's balanced by other satire pokes like the street fighter scene and the tekken scene (I found it humorous the men played females and she played a guy). I wouldn't worry too much.

Edit: Someone already mentioned what game it was to Vexx. Also, what I meant by self parody is that while it is an obvious poke at the geek/otaku/whatever cultures, I don't think the show will turn into a giant Kyoani self parody, but since it is a Kyoani work I expect some amount of that.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 04:17
Lucky [insert foul, vulgar, family unfriendly, and utterly unrepeatable word here]. :D :p



You know, I'm starting to think that it's not so much that Kaioshin-chan is specifically an anti-KyoAni-ist, per se......I'm getting the feeling that she's just a natural-born anarchist. Simply put, it doesn't have to be KyoAni; just put anything remotely mainstream-popular in front of her, and she'll have a go at it. :p

I wonder if Kaioshin-chan will turn on Sunrise if it ever gains anywhere near the amount of popularity KyoAni apparently is getting. It'll be tres amusing to watch her go at it. :D

I already have a few issues with the abundance of C.C in lieu of other characters who are just as important if that's what you mean. I am also a male not a female. You can call me Kaioshin-Chan if you absolutely must, but I ask that you please don't call me her, she or any other female connotation.

Sheba
2007-04-20, 04:18
(I found it humorous the men played females and she played a guy).


It is sort of true. Most of the casual male fighting game players tend to go with the chicks (if it is not for the shotos first). The few female ones are going for the male (but usually for the pretty boys).
But thinking of Konata's gaming skills, she have gone for the character type that have the high risk, high reward factor in him, the Big Bad Grappler.

I am personally more into chargies, rushdowners, and some grapplers for the fun.

JediNight
2007-04-20, 04:20
AH, the whole "Burning Arisa" and other pics for Nanoha were a play on Galaxy Angel?

Solace
2007-04-20, 04:23
Yup, I'm the same way as Konata actually. Most of my character choices are female and I tend to pick the ones that have high risk/reward styles. Usually the only time I'll play a guy is when there is no female choice or the choice doesn't work with my playstyle. But I grumble about it! :heh: Looking at her style she likes to take advantage of people who go for the dive/charge kind of moves, so the Grappler makes alot of sense.

Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-20, 04:30
It is sort of true. Most of the casual male fighting game players tend to go with the chicks (if it is not for the shotos first). The few female ones are going for the male (but usually for the pretty boys).
But thinking of Konata's gaming skills, she have gone for the character type that have the high risk, high reward factor in him, the Big Bad Grappler.

I am personally more into chargies, rushdowners, and some grapplers for the fun.

I go with the loli character actually. In Street Fighter I am a Sakura player, in Guilty Gear I am a May player as well as a bit of Dizzy and Jam Kurodoberi and in King of Fighters my team is composed of Captain Kula Diamond, Second Athena Asamiya, Third Hinako Shijou and Fourth Yuri Sakazaki and sometimes swap one out for Malin or May Lee (Who I always seem to get when I randomize somethimes. I wouldn't say I'm any kind of a normal fighting game player though. I'm also interested in checking out the Beart Sisters and Lilly Kane among others in the latest KOF games. Here's to hoping they add Rose Bernstein into a future game.

I also retract my earlier statement that Kyoto Animation is the only company praised for out of context ads. See Code Geass for the reason why.

Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-04-20, 04:55
I am also a male not a female. You can call me Kaioshin-Chan if you absolutely must, but I ask that you please don't call me her, she or any other female connotation.

Sorry, but I can't do that.

Envisioning you as a loudmouth Tsundere female is the only thing that prevent me from going berserk and swear at you for being a lunatic, probably involving typing in all CAPS and using multiple coloured fonts and symb@1s. A flame war will start and I would get banned. Not pretty.

Yes, you do annoy me that much. And yes, it is sexist that I can tolerate this from a female, but not from a male. That's why "psycho" exists as a female moe-mode. :)
(Example: Skane's signature just below my post.)
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Back on topic, another anime-board I frequent had pointed out that Kona-chan did not change her shirt through out the entire Golden Week holiday while playing MMO. That's four days without showering. Further, she was still wearing that shirt when she visited Tsukasa's house. Seriously, at least change clothes if you are visiting your friend...:heh: :eyespin: :twitch:

I also retract my earlier statement that Kyoto Animation is the only company praised for out of context ads. See Code Geass for the reason why.
Actually, Pizza Hut only payed for a small amount of advertising space on Code Geass. Sunrise was just having too much fun and decided to add more pizza references for the humour effect. The PizzaHut representative was shocked when he saw an actual PizzaHut delivery scooter appearing in the show... This wasn't done out of greed, but out of "hell, let's see how crazy we can get!".

Skane
2007-04-20, 05:03
The following is based on [a.f.k.]'s fansub.

Random Thoughts on Ep02:
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Lots of choice Kagami moments. She is the "straight man" in this comedy routine, and her punchlines are often a killer. :) Best one in this episode was probably, "That's just wrong" after seeing Konata's test result. :heh:
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When that man skulked away from the girls in the arcade, the following phrase came to mind.

"A Man's Pride" :heh:
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The part about "May Sickness" flew over my head. I understood what they were saying, but it wasn't clicking with me. Oh well, hit and miss as they say.
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I can relate with the dentist discussion as my visits to the dentist are never happy ones. :heh: The drill is bad enough, but when the pick comes out... hoo boy.
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Points for self-referential humour with regards to the issue of the cast-change between the Drama CD and the anime.
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Despite "winning" the face-staring contest, the joke ended up being on Konata. :p
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Envy in the Lucky Channel. :p I also wonder whether they are trying to make a point out of the exploitation of children in idol contests. It's unnerving to see people using their children to gain fame when those kids barely just started walking.
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Best part of Lucky Channel has to be, "What was that?" Even taken out of context, it is still funny due to the efforts of the VA and the animation used to convey the scene.
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What was up with the deep voice in the preview?

Cheers.

Nightengale
2007-04-20, 05:44
Sorry, but I can't do that.

To put in a different perspective of arguments, I can never get why some people seem to fawn over tsundere properties in females, but gives tsundere guys the asshole treatment. I don't believe in gender bias, but the outright proportion is scary in a sense. I don't think there's a single fan who likes the main guy of Hot Gimmick to give a tasteless example (( one of the worst males tsunderes )).

Anyway, episode 2 was good even if I think the flow or structure could be improved. Some parts felt decently flowed and connected, and some parts don't. Now if only they could get rid of the annoying Lucky Channel...That stint is starting to irritate me already.

CrazyPerson
2007-04-20, 06:36
To put in a different perspective of arguments, I can never get why some people seem to fawn over tsundere properties in females, but gives tsundere guys the asshole treatment. I don't believe in gender bias, but the outright proportion is scary in a sense. I don't think there's a single fan who likes the main guy of Hot Gimmick to give a tasteless example (( one of the worst males tsunderes )).

I think it has something to do with society's perceived gender roles. Females are seen more as empathic and emotional while men are seen as direct and more focused emotionally.

With female tsunderes the two different states kind of act as a foil for each other, making both tsun and dere more valued and contrasted. Or maybe it's "the more you can't have it (like the one of the sides), the more you want it." Hell, maybe men are just more masochistic in their relationships with females, and would prefer females better for the pain. :P

"Men are more direct" way of seeing things could show male tsunderes in a way that gives superfluous, overexaggerated, or fake feeling to their actions. Maybe give off an untrustworthy or out-of-character feel of a character. A strange thought: because male tsunderes aren't well defined and more rare, it's harder to accept them?

About the ep, however, I can totally relate to Konata's slacking off as I type this post, simply because I have a huge exam in 11 hours, and I haven't slept for 20. I should be studying for said exam right now, but here I am, typing posts at 4 in the morning. Maybe I can pull a Konata and get my 89% :D I loved the Taiko drum thing, but what they should have done is animated the girls actually playing the drum game with Konata being super good like the Youtube fella and animated it at super fast speeds. They sure as heck ain't using their full potential anytime soon, might as well slip some of it in, right? :)

xris
2007-04-20, 06:52
Lucky Star (http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=67) now has it's own forum.

This thread will become the "generic" thread to cover topics not suitable for the existing threads in the forum :)

Please check the existing threads (and request any if they don't exist) and continue your discussion in the new threads. Thanks.

P.S. It may be possible to move some of the recent posts (from the last few hours) from this thread into one of the specific new threads, so let me know (by PM) if you want such a post moved.

Cyz
2007-04-20, 07:03
Wow! Lucky Star must be really popular if it got its own section :)

xris
2007-04-20, 07:05
Wow! Lucky Star must be really popular if it got its own section :)
Says Cyz in post number 1499 :) The fansubs are also getting large numbers of downloads (for a non-shounen series at that).