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GlancingReverse
2009-10-02, 00:03
While I don't really have any arguments, I would like to point out that Lindy said it would take a while for connection with Yuuno's world to be made, but they did, however, have free access to Mid-Childa at that point, somewhat implying that Yuuno's world isn't Mid.

Jimmy C
2009-10-02, 00:13
Glancing, I think you're talking about the same scene that I am, 8 minutes into ep13 with Lindy, Nanoha and Yuuno. Lindy first says they'll have a connection to Nanoha's world (Earth) in a day or two, then says the connection to Mid will take months to stabilize. There's no mention of a specific world for Yuuno outside of those two.

GlancingReverse
2009-10-02, 00:20
Really? I could have sword there was two different mentions there. Ah well, that's what I get for skipping past that scene last time I rewatched the series.

Nanya01
2009-10-02, 00:48
So, anyone have the raws of Force yet?

*waits on those and the kind translators to get done with ViVid.*

al103
2009-10-02, 03:46
She was cute with short hair.

She is hot with long hair.

Our little girl's all grown up. *sniff*

Nah. She was very hot with short hair. Not so much with long.

NorthernFallout
2009-10-02, 04:19
She was cute with short hair.

She is hot with long hair.

Our little girl's all grown up. *sniff*
Quoted for truth... although if it was in a ponytail I would have been dead already.

Keroko
2009-10-02, 04:24
It's ironic that Fate, arguably the most popular character in Nanoha, received little more than an 'oh, she changed her hair' and Hayate's new hairstyle is bantered back and forth over.

al103
2009-10-02, 04:29
It's because sekuhara-chan is instawin! At least short-haired one.

Keroko
2009-10-02, 04:44
For me, there are two things I like about Hayate's new hairstyle. First, I think it makes her look pretty darned gorgeous. Especially now that she cut those bangs and kept growing longer in the back. It went from cute, to hot, to drop-dead gorgeous.

Secondly, and a bit more objectively, is that it makes her look more mature. It is probably because her StrikerS hairstyle is so similar to her A's hairstyle (it's only slightly longer in the back), because between the three of the Aces, Hayate still radiated the largest 'high school aura.'

prescience
2009-10-02, 06:17
Agreed. I liked short-haired Hayate, but long-haired Hayate is long- I mean, awesome. :p

selkirk
2009-10-02, 07:26
Hrm. Gotta say, I like(d) short-haired Hayate more D:. I'm a sucker for shoulder-length hair in general.

Haven't really been keeping up to date on Nanoha, ever since StS... First post in Nanoha in days weeks months :upset:
On the other hand, I accidentally got an extra copy of Strikers Nano! X First Stage (http://shop.melonbooks.co.jp/shop/sp_asita_x_fs.php). If anyone wants it and is willing to pay shipping, it's free (along with whatever random Nanoha posters that I can scrounge up from magazines, and other things I have lying around). Shipping from HK, so SG and other parts of SE Asia probably wouldn't be too expensive.

Nanya01
2009-10-02, 07:49
*looks* *Looks more* AHHH! There's Dieci, Nove, Cinque and Wendi in a bathtub! *Falls over, giggling like an idiot.*

Keroko
2009-10-02, 08:26
I'm interested. How will we arrange the payment?

Ottocycle
2009-10-02, 10:38
Hrm. Gotta say, I like(d) short-haired Hayate more D:. I'm a sucker for shoulder-length hair in general.

Haven't really been keeping up to date on Nanoha, ever since StS... First post in Nanoha in days weeks months :upset:
On the other hand, I accidentally got an extra copy of Strikers Nano! X First Stage (http://shop.melonbooks.co.jp/shop/sp_asita_x_fs.php). If anyone wants it and is willing to pay shipping, it's free (along with whatever random Nanoha posters that I can scrounge up from magazines, and other things I have lying around). Shipping from HK, so SG and other parts of SE Asia probably wouldn't be too expensive.
Goodness, you're still buying the stuff? :heh:

Keroko
2009-10-02, 11:06
Still haven't managed to track down any raws, but I do have a nice image of Hayate's new throne command ship:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Liinna/Nanoha/manga/20091002163420ed8.jpg

Rising Dragon
2009-10-02, 11:18
Oh, so its one of the new ships, like the ones that destroyed the Saint's Cradle.

Has that bit of text been translated?

LoweGear
2009-10-02, 11:19
Hayate has her own ship now?!?!? :eek::eek::eek:

From the english, it's an LS-class vessel? Though what is it's actual name?

@Rising Dragon:

Actually, the XV-class (the type of vessel that the Claudia is supposed to be) has a slightly different design to this one.

Key Board
2009-10-02, 11:19
The ship's name is Volfram

I'm trying to put into words on what it reminds me of

I guess part Star Destroyer, part Gradius Vic Viper

NorthernFallout
2009-10-02, 11:23
Hayate's Ship! Need details, statistics, images *rants off into sci-fi fanatic mode*

LoweGear
2009-10-02, 11:28
@Key Board:

Thanks for the name translation :D

And now for a quick comparison:

http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/spec_operations/ShipComparison.jpg

Jimmy C
2009-10-02, 11:36
It's like they welded extra pieces to the XV design. They really need to put more effort into new ship designs.

Keroko
2009-10-02, 11:37
Minus one or two minor attachments, looks pretty much the same, just lower quality on part of the anime.

NorthernFallout
2009-10-02, 11:39
Seems like they went for "Don't fix what's not broken." Not that I would mind more exotic and radical designs. Could also be this new ship is just a small modification, having a similar purpose as the others so it doesn't need much new.

LoweGear
2009-10-02, 11:48
It's like they welded extra pieces to the XV design. They really need to put more effort into new ship designs.

From my POV, it's more like the Volfram is a smaller version of the XV but with more detail. Also the Volfram seems more... triangular in profile than the XV's.

There's also the fact that from an economics standpoint (both IRL and in fiction), having ships (or vehicles) be not too dissimilar in appearance is more cost-effective at times - like all the variants of the M113 in service that fulfilled roles from anti-arcraft to mine-clearing to even a mobile mortar.

Jabawock
2009-10-02, 12:30
What is Hayate's rank in Force ?

Murgatroyd
2009-10-02, 15:09
The ship's name is Volfram

Given the German linguistic influences we've already seen, I'd transliterate it as Wolfram.

Nagumo
2009-10-02, 15:48
Given the German linguistic influences we've already seen, I'd transliterate it as Wolfram.

... For some strange reason I can't stop laughing myself silly.

Because the name reminds me of Lord Wolfram von Bielefelt, from Kyou Kara Maou. Despite the fact there's absolutely no connection to each other.

Arkeus
2009-10-02, 15:54
What is Hayate's rank in Force ?

i guess she is still SlackerS (SS).

Nanya01
2009-10-02, 16:06
i guess she is still StrikerS (SS).

Possibly, but I think what was asked was is she a General, Admiral, what?

prescience
2009-10-02, 16:08
It does seem unlikely that the rank inflation can continue indefinitely, so I wouldn't expect her mage rank to have increased much, if at all. But what I think Jabawock was asking is what her military rank is. IIRC she is now the Navy's head of investigations, or somesuch. Probably substantially higher than Lt. Colonel, then. Admiral Yagami, anyone?

Damn, the ninjas have it in for me... >_>

TheShinySword
2009-10-02, 16:12
... For some strange reason I can't stop laughing myself silly.

Because the name reminds me of Lord Wolfram von Bielefelt, from Kyou Kara Maou. Despite the fact there's absolutely no connection to each other.

The mental image you just gave me just made my day. Thank you Nagumo *giggles uncontrollably*

al103
2009-10-02, 16:58
The mental image you just gave me just made my day. Thank you Nagumo *giggles uncontrollably*

Personal Hayate ship, yesssss... lol

Jabawock
2009-10-02, 18:57
Sorry for unclear question. What i ask is about her military rank.

Nvis
2009-10-02, 19:00
Isn't Crono's mom the new Admiral(top dog) or that other woman(can't remember) that talks to her or something after Striker S?
Obviously she or Crono would want to give Hayate her own ship.

itanshi1
2009-10-02, 21:31
Letti Lowran, mother of Griffith Lowran

Anyways, yeah ranks are hard to figure out, x-x maybe she is an admiral in the ground forces?

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-03, 02:01
Ain't got much time, so I'll just let fly that the XV class bothers me quite a bit. And Keroko... maybe.

Because in another dark future, XVs are little mecha piloted by little blue aliens prancing around the battlefield bristling with weaponry. :uhoh:

prescience
2009-10-03, 02:02
Lindy retired from working in the field to take a desk job (or something to that effect). IIRC her rank in StrikerS is "Director". Presumably Leti is similarly-ranked, though I can't remember if she even shows up at all in the anime.

@itanshi: How would that work? I'm pretty sure Admiral is Navy-only rank...

Vivio Testarossa
2009-10-03, 02:06
I looked at the new design for Hayate, and have to say that I don't like it. Hayate just doesn't look right unless she has short hair. I also do not like the concept of Force having a male protagonist.

itanshi1
2009-10-03, 02:08
Look, I may be on your side generally, presumably, but with this, I am not. It needs more males because it is stupidly flooded with estrogen!

Can you imagine the expenses for that many females. How does the TSAB ever stay in business?

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-03, 02:15
Nonono... You see, due to the population imbalance, every male has a harem. It's equality for all! >=3

TheShinySword
2009-10-03, 20:02
Nonono... You see, due to the population imbalance, every male has a harem. It's equality for all! >=3

Please stop saying stupid things :)

Besides, everyone knows Hayate's the only one with a harem in Nanoha

Nya~n
2009-10-03, 20:42
Besides, everyone knows Hayate's the only one with a harem in Nanoha

Thoma wants a word with you.

TheShinySword
2009-10-03, 20:52
Ku ku ku Girlfriendless rock collectors have long ways to go before reaching hayate's might. 1 girl and potentially another is a love triangle not a harem.

(but seriously, harems in Nanoha? We can do with out them please and thank you. Go else where for that bull)

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-03, 21:11
I thot you, TSS, of all people would at least be supportive of a Zaffy X loli-harem. :(

TheShinySword
2009-10-03, 21:20
I don't like harems in any form (except for cracky lulz). And Zaffy is Papa!Zaffy in my heart.

Nanya01
2009-10-03, 21:42
So, we have the raws of ViVid...

Do we have the raws of Force yet?

/me isn't very patient at times, especially after seeing Nove laying next to Heidi as she woke up. Cute scene is cute!

Lord Pertinax
2009-10-04, 00:15
Anyone knows a good site to read the manga, onemanga.com doesn't update it. Thanks.

JINNSK
2009-10-04, 06:13
Force Record02 was translated so I remove raws.m(_ _)m
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/nyantype/th_Nyantype200911_Force_Eclipse.jpg (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/nyantype/Nyantype200911_Force_Eclipse.jpg)

MOVIE THE 1st COMICS Sequence0-1 was translated so I remove raws.m(_ _)m
For your info
The next Nyantype comes out Nov 30
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/nyantype/Nyantype200911_AboutNextIssue.jpg
The next Megami Magazine comes out Oct 30
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/megami/MM200911_AboutNextIssue.jpg

Keroko
2009-10-04, 06:24
Woo! Raws!

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/nyantype/th_Force_Record02_07.jpg (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/nyantype/Force_Record02_07.jpg)

Anyone who wasn't convinced that Force would be a much darker manga, well, I'd say they're convinced now as well.

By the looks of things Thoma's probably going to get accused of this as well. Oh dear.

prescience
2009-10-04, 06:31
Raws? Raws!

And, DAAAMN. MoodWhiplash much?

EDIT: Is it just me, or does Tea get all the nasty cases? Poor Tea...

EDIT2: Did Thoma just sell off that bracelet thing to Isis? I sense trouble afoot.

Bananoha
2009-10-04, 06:39
Woo, thanks, JINNSK.

That page with Teana makes me go "k fcuk everyone that talks crap about Force having a male protagonist". And I love Lily even more. +__+!I-It actually stabs at my heart whenever people say that....

Hmm, Ottocycle, did you want to do the Nanoha movie mango? Just asking since it's Hasegawa-san's art. And of course, thanks for translating those 4koma again. Looks like I'll be able to keep busy. orz

Keroko
2009-10-04, 07:17
Raws? Raws!

And, DAAAMN. MoodWhiplash much?

Yes, more drama. :3

EDIT: Is it just me, or does Tea get all the nasty cases? Poor Tea...

Well, it's not as if we've actually seen the cases Fate was send to...

EDIT2: Did Thoma just sell off that bracelet thing to Isis? I sense trouble afoot.

Ahaha no, no, that money was for Lily's clothing.

prescience
2009-10-04, 07:37
Well, it's not as if we've actually seen the cases Fate was send to...
What I meant to say was that all the cases Tea gets seem to be nasty ones.

Ahaha no, no, that money was for Lily's clothing.
Ah yes, he's paying her. That makes more sense. Isis seems pretty interested in that bracelet, though. I wonder, is she just some random clothes-seller who they happen to befriend that"], or did Thoma know her from before? It looks like the former case, to me, but I suppose we'll have to wait for a translation to know.

Yay for Hayate's shiny new spess ship. I'd love to have an office like that. She and Rein seem pretty cheerful, though. Presumably they haven't heard from Fate and Tea yet about what happened last chapter.

Oh, and does anyone know what "Hückebein" is? IIRC it's a reference to Super Robot Wars...

JINNSK
2009-10-04, 07:50
Sorry.My previous post lacked some pics.I modified it.orz

omake
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/th_Nyantype200911_IC.jpg (http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/Nyantype200911_IC.jpg)

LoweGear
2009-10-04, 07:52
Oh, and does anyone know what "Hückebein" is? IIRC it's a reference to Super Robot Wars...

Because Thoma is the Vanishing Trooper-

*is SHOT by Black Hole Cannon*

Been trying to find the meaning of Huckebein for ages, yet it only seems to ever come up as a name without any meaning :heh:

PhoenixG
2009-10-04, 08:09
Lily's leg service is beau~~~~tiful in this chapter *.*

LoweGear
2009-10-04, 08:13
Yes, Lily has such beautiful leeeeeeeeeeeeegs :love:

Lily needs outfits that accentuate those sexy legs more... like Zettai Ryouiki :uhoh:

*RUNZ*

NorthernFallout
2009-10-04, 09:43
Lily in dress. Death. Drama. SRS BSNS. Yes, I want more.

Nanya01
2009-10-04, 09:51
Looked at both...

Lily in a dress is so pretty...

For the movie...

Sad Nanoha is sad. :(

So, we have all three in raw format now...

*Waits for translations.*

RadiantBeam
2009-10-04, 10:47
Lily really looks lovely. She's a nice addition to the ladies of MGLN. :)

Seems like in the movie manga, Fate makes her appearance much earlier than she did in the series. Huh. I wonder why. Suspense builder, maybe?

Tabasco
2009-10-04, 11:16
Looked like it. Sort of a pre final battle faceoff followed by a flashback if I'm reading correctly.

Can't wait for subs on this.

prescience
2009-10-04, 11:19
I'm assuming they're going to cut out most of the Jewel Seed hunting, seeing as it wasn't very interesting. I wonder why they've started with a flash-forward? Probably to mess with our heads so we don't think that we know what will happen next :p

RadiantBeam
2009-10-04, 11:20
The movie manga can be found on Mangafox or Onemanga when it's translated, right?

Nanya01
2009-10-04, 11:29
If someone translates it, someone will most likely upload it to Mangafox.

To the translators, we will wait, 3 manga chapters at the same time is a bit of a pain.

Jimmy C
2009-10-04, 11:45
The movie's manga is (hopefully) a fill-in-the blanks type like the A's and Strikers manga. That leads to unique opportunites. Depending on how they wish the plot to develop, the majority of Jewel Seed hunting can be narrated in either the movie or this manga.
What I'd like to know is what is the standing of this movie in the Nanoha continuity? Is it a movie made in Mid (that could be Vivio's favorite)? Is it superceeding S1 as canon? The movie Sound Stages might shine light on it.

LoweGear
2009-10-04, 11:48
Wasn't it said before in previous articles that the movie is supposed to be an AU of sorts that neither replaces nor supercedes S1, but is just an alternate retelling?

Nanya01
2009-10-04, 11:50
The movie's manga is (hopefully) a fill-in-the blanks type like the A's and Strikers manga. That leads to unique opportunites. Depending on how they wish the plot to develop, the majority of Jewel Seed hunting can be narrated in either the movie or this manga.
What I'd like to know is what is the standing of this movie in the Nanoha continuity? Is it a movie made in Mid (that could be Vivio's favorite)? Is it superceeding S1 as canon? The movie Sound Stages might shine light on it.

hmm...

Wouldn't it be something at the end if Vivio was in a theater watching the movie?

Ottocycle
2009-10-04, 13:07
Well, it's not as if we've actually seen the cases Fate was send to...

Well, we've seen what Chrono got sent to...Big cases, they were. :heh:

itanshi1
2009-10-04, 13:43
Ah man, so Isis is a willing accomplice? that's humorous, i think i'm hooked now ^_^

Keroko
2009-10-04, 14:20
What I'd like to know is what is the standing of this movie in the Nanoha continuity? Is it a movie made in Mid (that could be Vivio's favorite)? Is it superceeding S1 as canon? The movie Sound Stages might shine light on it.

It's an alternate re-telling, non-canon.

The 100th issue (on sale on July 30) of Gakken's Magami Magazine will announce that a Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha film, Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha The MOVIE 1st, will open in Japan this spring. The movie will retell the first story of Nanoha Takamachi, an ordinary third-grade girl who becomes a magical girl in search of Jewel Seeds from another world, and Fate Testarossa, another magical girl competing for the Jewel Seeds. Franchise creator Masaki Tsuzuki emphasized that the movie is not necessarily the "true history" of the story, but a "new parallel history."

Source. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-07-28/magical-girl-lyrical-nanoha-the-movie-1st-announced)

Village Idiot
2009-10-04, 18:44
The raws for Force ch02 and the Movie manga is out.

Ch03 is titled; "Huckebein"

Will they meet the Vanishing Trooper?

itanshi1
2009-10-05, 00:32
gah, meisterbabylon beat you to that joke already :P

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-05, 01:53
You mean LoweGear.

I understand the confusion. The two of us are one Khrack Meister. :uhoh:

[JOKAA]

LoweGear
2009-10-05, 01:56
Henshin!

[SAICLON]

*FLEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!!!!*

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-05, 02:16
[SAIKURON, JOKAAA!!!]

*FLEEEZ AS WELL*

hmm...

Wouldn't it be something at the end if Vivio was in a theater watching the movie?You made me think of the pre-movie notifications that Kara no Kyokai had. Them conveying a message in a whacky manner would be priceless. Oh and have BOTH loli and grown Aces in the same theatre for even more lulz. :D

FlameSparkZ
2009-10-05, 05:04
Lily's leg service is beau~~~~tiful in this chapter *.*
Yes it was :D

Yes, Lily has such beautiful leeeeeeeeeeeeegs :love:

Lily needs outfits that accentuate those sexy legs more... like Zettai Ryouiki :uhoh:

*RUNZ*
Nah, bare legs, like Hayate :D:D

[EDIT:] Well, with the new Force chapter and Hayate's new hairstyle, I couldn't help but do this :P

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/zetar0n1n/Artwork/pt_haya_rein.jpg

Hope you guys like, 'cause I enjoyed drawing it :3

Vivio Testarossa
2009-10-05, 12:29
Winterbraid from Wings of Yuri has done a translation of ViVid chapter 5, the script can be found: http://wingsofyuri.nekoslovakia.net/vivio/beta/vivid-05b.txt

prescience
2009-10-05, 13:51
Oooh, translation... shiny...

I wonder how the story will develop from here... I can see two obvious possibilities:
1) Vivio and Einhart become friends in the next chapter or two, and the rest of the story is about them working together to... fight crime? I dunno...
2) A truly evil character shows up (sort of like Precia for Fate in season 1) and as a result, Einhart ends up having to fight against her new friends.

I'm tending towards the latter possibility, seeing as it doesn't require the introduction of as many new characters (given that we have now encountered all the characters mentioned in the promotional materials, AFAIK).

@FlameSparkZ: Soooo cuuuuute.....

NorthernFallout
2009-10-05, 13:53
I'm hoping for the second scenario too. Been used, but more interesting.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 13:54
I vote for the second scenario as well. Would be an interesting twist.

itanshi1
2009-10-05, 14:07
I vote for option 3 (http://www.wizards.com/global/images/mtgcom_arcana_327_pic1_en.jpg)

basically, history becomes hungry


like who else was involved in the war? they might be introduced next chapter

prescience
2009-10-05, 14:18
True. I was suggesting possibilities under the assumption that there wouldn't be too many more characters. Probably more out of the hope that they focus on the established characters (rather than overextending themselves like in StrikerS). But that doesn't mean much. On the other hand, it's quite nice when the story does something completely unexpected (without it coming across as an outright ass-pull)...

itanshi1
2009-10-05, 14:28
Yeah, it's just that there is no overt antagonist, which may also be their goal. Hence my desire for an antagonist.

But I want to know more about Belkan war history, really. Even if it screws up my own brand of khrack.

Estavali
2009-10-05, 14:37
Oooh, translation... shiny...

I wonder how the story will develop from here... I can see two obvious possibilities:
1) Vivio and Einhart become friends in the next chapter or two, and the rest of the story is about them working together to... fight crime? I dunno...
2) A truly evil character shows up (sort of like Precia for Fate in season 1) and as a result, Einhart ends up having to fight against her new friends.

I'm tending towards the latter possibility, seeing as it doesn't require the introduction of as many new characters (given that we have now encountered all the characters mentioned in the promotional materials, AFAIK).

@FlameSparkZ: Soooo cuuuuute.....

I'm for the second scenario too, but instead of a really evil character, I believe one that's misguided (like most of the Nanoha antagonists we've seen so far) would work better. It might give the ladies some headaches if this antagonist fails to respond to befriending but is not evil enough to warrant death-at-all-costs.

itanshi1
2009-10-05, 14:43
How about an arms dealer?

Der Langrisser
2009-10-05, 14:52
I'm pretty sure it will most probably be scenario 1 and 2 combined.

TheShinySword
2009-10-05, 15:32
I like 1, why? Because I really want to say, So there are these two lolis and... They Fight Crime.

What else?

No that's it. They fight crime.

Nanya01
2009-10-05, 15:34
Hi, Shiny. :)

Hmm... what were the ideas again? :confused:

prescience
2009-10-05, 15:37
I like 1, why? Because I really want to say, So there are these two lolis and... They Fight Crime.

What else?

No that's it. They fight crime.

LOL.

Hmm... what were the ideas again? :confused:

For reference:
I wonder how the story will develop from here... I can see two obvious possibilities:
1) Vivio and Einhart become friends in the next chapter or two, and the rest of the story is about them working together to... fight crime? I dunno...
2) A truly evil character shows up (sort of like Precia for Fate in season 1) and as a result, Einhart ends up having to fight against her new friends.

I'm tending towards the latter possibility, seeing as it doesn't require the introduction of as many new characters (given that we have now encountered all the characters mentioned in the promotional materials, AFAIK).

Nanya01
2009-10-05, 16:00
Ah, I see...

You got it wrong...

Vivio and Heidi HAVE to have a fight against each other.

You just don't become friends in Nanoha unless you have a fight somewhere along the line. Or get blown up. But mostly, you need to have a fight.

D2
2009-10-05, 16:04
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For your info
The next Nyantype comes out Nov 30
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/nyantype/Nyantype200911_AboutNextIssue.jpg
The next Megami Magazine comes out Oct 30
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/megami/MM200911_AboutNextIssue.jpg

Finally! NanoForce Raws! Thanks! Yes, the Legs of Lily are quite impressive this chapter, though I must say that long-hair Hayate still manages to beat them out as the, "top image" of the chapter, IMO. Though I must say, Lily and Thoma's female "Companion," is quite easy on the eyes to.:heh:

Alavon
2009-10-05, 17:37
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/MOVIE_1st_THE_COMICS_Sequence0-1_21.jpg
SOMEBODY needs their nappie...:heh:

You know...I find this alternate retelling of Nanoha a lot better than the original. Let us hope that the creator won't ruin it. WE NEED MORE DRAMA, D****T!!!!

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 17:45
Honestly, seeing Nanoha break down like that is a little... weird. She's usually so calm and collected.

TheShinySword
2009-10-05, 17:46
And Nine, the nine year old is having a breakdown because she has no purpose, I am so making fun of this.

NorthernFallout
2009-10-05, 17:48
That's right, CRY NANOHA CRYYYYYYY YOUR GUTS OUT. TURN YOURSELF INWARDS AND-

*cough*

Manga looks quite good. Looking forward to it.

Alavon
2009-10-05, 18:03
That's right, CRY NANOHA CRYYYYYYY YOUR GUTS OUT. TURN YOURSELF INWARDS AND-

*cough*

Manga looks quite good. Looking forward to it.

*evil laughter*

I agree COMPLETELY....

Honestly, seeing Nanoha break down like that is a little... weird. She's usually so calm and collected.

And that's the reason why we need a AU. Another side of Nanoha would be very interesting to see but, yeah. I agree. It is kind of weird...up to a point.



And Nine, the nine year old is having a breakdown because she has no purpose, I am so making fun of this.

Well, Shiny. Nanoha was never NORMAL to begin with, even in the original.:heh:

itanshi1
2009-10-05, 18:08
I recall that nanoha explained that she was emotional like that since she was alone a lot of the time, so they are showing an aspect that was only hinted at before. Better or not? I dunno, but I'm interested now.

TheShinySword
2009-10-05, 18:15
Emotional yes. Abnormal, yes.
BREAKING DOWN CRYING BECAUSE SHE HAS NO REASON TO EXIST AT NINE, that ain't drama (pronounced drahmah and dragged out), that's hilarious.

Alavon
2009-10-05, 18:25
*trying to contain my laughter to no avail*

You really find the nine year-old Nanoha suffering quite amusing, eh, Shiny?

Nya~n
2009-10-05, 18:29
*trying to contain my laughter to no avail*

You really find the nine year-old Nanoha suffering quite amusing, eh, Shiny?

Well, for one, you don't see people BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWing about how their life is meaningless when they're NINE years old.

This shit is INTENSE, i tell you.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 18:30
Emotional yes. Abnormal, yes.
BREAKING DOWN CRYING BECAUSE SHE HAS NO REASON TO EXIST AT NINE, that ain't drama (pronounced drahmah and dragged out), that's hilarious.

You're cruel, Shiny. So, so cruel. xD

*snorts to hold in laughter*

itanshi1
2009-10-05, 18:30
Yeah, I mean where is the tsukiyomi ikuto who pu tthe idea in her head anyways? Kids that age tend to not understand the emotions and then not display them. Then their development gets whacked out. Her crying like that is unusual because she is not bottling anything. Crying at that age is a rebellion, so she is rejecting and lashing out against the emotion. As I implied, children that age don't know they can fight against the emotion. They tend to fight over a candy bar in a shopping mart.

TheShinySword
2009-10-05, 18:31
Iit's not the suffering I laugh at. It's the NOT suffering. She's overreacting to a hilarious extreme. Nanoha honey, get over yourself. Poor writing at it's funniest.

Nagumo
2009-10-05, 18:31
Well, for one, you don't see people BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWing about how their life is meaningless when they're NINE years old.

This shit is INTENSE, i tell you.

Tell me about it, I first read the manga and thought about doing a quick translation for IRC mibbit but I couldn't stop laughing and looking at it incredulously.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 18:31
Yeah, I mean where is the tsukiyomi ikuto who pu tthe idea in her head anyways? Kids that age tend to not understand the emotions and then not display them then their development gets whacked out.

Why did she even discuss what she wanted to do with her life with Suzuka and Arisa, anyway? I never even thought about that kind of stuff until I was in... middle school, at least. Maybe 12 or 13 at the oldest.

itanshi1
2009-10-05, 18:34
geh I still dunno what i want to do lol

Alavon
2009-10-05, 18:42
Again...Nanoha WAS NEVER NORMAL TO BEGIN WITH...

Examples:

1. She befriends people by BEATING THE CRAP OUT OF THEM! The more painful the attack, the more love she shows (Ask Vivio!:D)
2. She sees a talking ferret and acts as if that was normal.... (I would've peed my paints and then fainted...)
3. She accepts the responsibilities of being a freaking, Inter-Galactic MAGE at NINE....
4. She has healing abilities that rivals Wolverine...
5. And at the age of 15, she's already living on her own and becomes a Combat instructor to a Inter-galactic military bureau even though she's from EARTH!

So tell me, folks...is she normal or not.:p

Tempy
2009-10-05, 18:43
She is certainly different from the rest of humanity.

Which means she could possibly be an alien.

Or...THAT GIRL'S A SPAH!

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 18:45
She is certainly different from the rest of humanity.

Which means she could possibly be an alien.

If she's an alien, then does that make her an illegal immigrant?

TheShinySword
2009-10-05, 18:46
From SPACE.

Alavon
2009-10-05, 18:50
If she's an alien, then does that make her an illegal immigrant?

Hell! I wouldn't be surprise if she was actually adopted...(though unlikely since she looks a lot like her mom...:heh:)

Omake:

TSAB Immigration Unit: Ma'am, it says here that you went to earth illegally 15 years ago. Please step aside while we confirm your status.
Nanoha(15): Wah!? But I was BORN on EARTH!
TSAB Immigration Unit: According to this, you were not.
Nanoha: (mumbling) I'm going to need to talk to my dear, 'ol mother of mine...

RUN MOMOKO! RUUUUUUNNN!!!!!:D

Tempy
2009-10-05, 18:52
She's only illegal if she's caught. This may explain her crazy awesome magic power too.

Fate's not an Earthling. Hayate gained much power from the Tome of Darkness despite her Earthling status.

Which makes Nanoha the... different one of the group. I bet she's a MOONINITE. Or a displaced Martian from Negima.

Hey guys, that Negima/Nanoha crossover can work now.

Alavon
2009-10-05, 18:53
I guess Signum WAS right.

Nanoha is indeed a THING!

Tempy
2009-10-05, 18:54
Quick someone draw Nanoha as a Martian Squid.

TheShinySword
2009-10-05, 19:03
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/TheShinySword/nanohaalien.jpg
From the red planet mars, yo.
Interplanetary Befriending's a go

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 19:05
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/TheShinySword/nanohaalien.jpg
From the red planet mars, yo.
Interplanetary Befriending's a go

*spit-takes*

DAMMIT, Shiny! xDDD

Alavon
2009-10-05, 19:07
Quick someone draw Nanoha as a Martian Squid.

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/HA-1.jpg

Shiny! XD XD XD XD lol!

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 19:27
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/HA-1.jpg

...

Oh, God... I can't breathe... XD

DezoPenguin
2009-10-05, 19:33
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/TheShinySword/nanohaalien.jpg
From the red planet mars, yo.
Interplanetary Befriending's a go


http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/HA-1.jpg

Shiny! XD XD XD XD lol!


Ha ha ha ha ha!

I, for one, welcome our new squid masters friends!

TheShinySword
2009-10-05, 19:55
Happy birthday.

What? it's not anyone's birthday?
well I have a present anyway.


FFC Speed Scans presents
Force Chapter 2
Photobucket and I don't get along for masses of images (if you want to try your hand be my guest) so download it
Here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?deyhjnmgnwz)


Big thanks to Nagumo for translating and AtomicX for typesetting the second half.

In other news Isis is officially my favorite of the new characters. I'm planning on making a sig of her face on page 21.

Edit: Quick note, On page 18 Isis is supposed to only say heh next to her cute face, the rest of the text belongs in the next text bubble. Sorry ^^;

DezoPenguin
2009-10-05, 20:02
Happy birthday.

What? it's not anyone's birthday?
well I have a present anyway.


FFC Speed Scans presents
Force Chapter 2
Photobucket and I don't get along for masses of images (if you want to try your hand be my guest) so download it
Here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?deyhjnmgnwz)


Big thanks to Nagumo for translating and AtomicX for typesetting the second half.

In other news Isis is officially my favorite of the new characters. I'm planning on making a sig of her face on page 21.

You da man!

(Um...well, actually, that ought to be "woman"...or "women," since Nagumo did the translating...um...but darn it, "You da two women and one man!" just doesn't have the right ring to it! :D Thanks for the hard work to all three of you!)

GlancingReverse
2009-10-05, 20:07
You could do something with people or a variation on it.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 20:10
Happy birthday.

What? it's not anyone's birthday?
well I have a present anyway.


FFC Speed Scans presents
Force Chapter 2
Photobucket and I don't get along for masses of images (if you want to try your hand be my guest) so download it
Here (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?deyhjnmgnwz)


Big thanks to Nagumo for translating and AtomicX for typesetting the second half.

In other news Isis is officially my favorite of the new characters. I'm planning on making a sig of her face on page 21.

Edit: Quick note, On page 18 Isis is supposed to only say heh next to her cute face, the rest of the text belongs in the next text bubble. Sorry ^^;

Ha! Sweet! :D

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-05, 20:46
Hey guys, that Negima/Nanoha crossover can work now.It always did, just not in this manner! XD

With this, we can add Queen of Calamity to Nanoha's titles. And maybe list her as Chao's baby sister. :uhoh:

That means she's a certain original character's AUNT! Now she can emo about being OLD as well! >=3
Quick someone draw Nanoha as a Martian Squid.It's coming...

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/TheShinySword/nanohaalien.jpg
From the red planet mars, yo.
Interplanetary Befriending's a go...AND SHE SCORES THE TOUCHDOWN!!! XD XD XD

I'd thot I'd NEVER see that squid again! Made my morning indeed. =D

Alavon
2009-10-05, 20:51
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/Renandcou.jpg

Gotcha!!! But seriously! Doesn't the relationship seem so similar to Ren and Coud from Elemental Gelade? Even Touma carrying Lily around on his back is the same. The attitude as well! Ren and Lily even 'almost' look alike!:heh:

Nya~n
2009-10-05, 20:51
She's only illegal if she's caught. This may explain her crazy awesome magic power too.

Fate's not an Earthling. Hayate gained much power from the Tome of Darkness despite her Earthling status.

Which makes Nanoha the... different one of the group. I bet she's a MOONINITE. Or a displaced Martian from Negima.

Hey guys, that Negima/Nanoha crossover can work now.

Nanoha's a Lunarian. She joined the TSAB to escape the Lunar Palace!

RadiantBeam
2009-10-05, 20:52
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/Renandcou.jpg

Gotcha!!! But seriously! Doesn't the relationship seem so similar to Ren and Coud from Elemental Gelade? Even Touma carrying Lily around on his back is the same. The attitude as well! Ren and Lily even 'almost' look alike!:heh:

I thought I was the only one who noticed that! :heh:

Vivio Testarossa
2009-10-05, 22:11
Nanoha Force may be also downloaded from http://rapidshare.com/files/289221013/Nanoha_Force_Chapter_2.zip

Nanoha's a Lunarian. She joined the TSAB to escape the Lunar Palace!

Are you joking :heh:, Nanoha has to be a Demon Overlord and her "subordinates" are her "vassals".

Pic of Demon Overlord Nanoha:
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/VivioFateFan/th_1183139008542.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/VivioFateFan/1183139008542.jpg) :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
:joke::joke::joke:

Her "rivals" are: http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/VivioFateFan/th_1183431016399vdsgvdsf.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/VivioFateFan/1183431016399vdsgvdsf.jpg) and http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/VivioFateFan/th_425a18e40a125dbbb74c6ffmp1.jpg (http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg136/VivioFateFan/425a18e40a125dbbb74c6ffmp1.jpg)

--------

As to crossovers, I don't know that much about "Negiverse", however I think that it might be interesting to see a crossover of Nanoha with and one (or more) of the Nippon Ichi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nippon_Ichi_Software) titles (Disgaea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disgaea), Phantom Brave (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_Brave), Makai Kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makai_Kingdom:_Chronicles_of_the_Sacred_Tome), etc).

GlancingReverse
2009-10-05, 22:21
Actually, some of those Nippon Ichi things might be interesting considering how much grinding some of them have, and having them compare training techniques with Nanoha might be interesting.

"I train extensively in the morning and at school."

"I just spam Winged Slayer all day."

Lord Pertinax
2009-10-05, 22:37
I vote for option 3 (http://www.wizards.com/global/images/mtgcom_arcana_327_pic1_en.jpg)

basically, history becomes hungry


like who else was involved in the war? they might be introduced next chapter

Yay, good old phyrexian dradnought.

FlameSparkZ
2009-10-06, 03:18
She's only illegal if she's caught. This may explain her crazy awesome magic power too.

Fate's not an Earthling. Hayate gained much power from the Tome of Darkness despite her Earthling status.

Which makes Nanoha the... different one of the group. I bet she's a MOONINITE. Or a displaced Martian from Negima.

Hey guys, that Negima/Nanoha crossover can work now.
lol...no, the truth is that Nanoha is a Belkan Kaiser...but she doesn't know it yet :p

http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/Renandcou.jpg

Gotcha!!! But seriously! Doesn't the relationship seem so similar to Ren and Coud from Elemental Gelade? Even Touma carrying Lily around on his back is the same. The attitude as well! Ren and Lily even 'almost' look alike!:heh:
Yeah, I saw Elemental Gelade...it was nice :3 :nod:

XenahortCharybdis
2009-10-06, 03:31
lol...no, the truth is that Nanoha is a Belkan Kaiser...but she doesn't know it yet :p


Yeah, I saw Elemental Gelade...it was nice :3 :nod:

But that said; I think the manga's art is prettier. Masters of the Shiny Art, indeed.

...And Ren is superior to Lily because she's mai waifu damn you Coud van Girette

And that reminds me...I needs more Ren :sad:

FRS
2009-10-06, 03:32
TheShinySword:

*cheers*

Thanks for the scanlation.

Sheba
2009-10-06, 04:14
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/MOVIE_1st_THE_COMICS_Sequence0-1_21.jpg
SOMEBODY needs their nappie...:heh:

You know...I find this alternate retelling of Nanoha a lot better than the original. Let us hope that the creator won't ruin it. WE NEED MORE DRAMA, D****T!!!!

My Suspension of Disbelief = Gutted, raped, eaten and shat.

Honestly, seeing Nanoha break down like that is a little... weird. She's usually so calm and collected.

And Nine, the nine year old is having a breakdown because she has no purpose, I am so making fun of this.

At nine, I was more worried about BIG BAD SOVIETS. And how the hell Baby Smurf was born.



I recall that nanoha explained that she was emotional like that since she was alone a lot of the time, so they are showing an aspect that was only hinted at before. Better or not? I dunno, but I'm interested now.

Emotional yes. Abnormal, yes.
BREAKING DOWN CRYING BECAUSE SHE HAS NO REASON TO EXIST AT NINE, that ain't drama (pronounced drahmah and dragged out), that's hilarious.

*trying to contain my laughter to no avail*

You really find the nine year-old Nanoha suffering quite amusing, eh, Shiny?

Well, for one, you don't see people BAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWing about how their life is meaningless when they're NINE years old.

This shit is INTENSE, i tell you.

She did not suffer from mistreating, bullying and was not driving while black.

It's just hard for me to take her seriously from now on.

Iit's not the suffering I laugh at. It's the NOT suffering. She's overreacting to a hilarious extreme. Nanoha honey, get over yourself. Poor writing at it's funniest.

Equivalent to fic writers who thinks that their characters having a dark tragic past = automatic character development.

Hell! I wouldn't be surprise if she was actually adopted...(though unlikely since she looks a lot like her mom...:heh:)

Omake:

TSAB Immigration Unit: Ma'am, it says here that you went to earth illegally 15 years ago. Please step aside while we confirm your status.
Nanoha(15): Wah!? But I was BORN on EARTH!
TSAB Immigration Unit: According to this, you were not.
Nanoha: (mumbling) I'm going to need to talk to my dear, 'ol mother of mine...

RUN MOMOKO! RUUUUUUNNN!!!!!:D

Dude, where is Will Smith?

Saint X
2009-10-06, 04:31
http://i609.photobucket.com/albums/tt179/Alavon13/Renandcou.jpg

Gotcha!!! But seriously! Doesn't the relationship seem so similar to Ren and Coud from Elemental Gelade? Even Touma carrying Lily around on his back is the same. The attitude as well! Ren and Lily even 'almost' look alike!:heh:

I thought I was the only one who noticed that! :heh:

Same here...

so Isis is Cisqua?

So where's her arsenal?

FlameSparkZ
2009-10-06, 05:00
Same here...

so Isis is Cisqua?

So where's her arsenal?
No, Fate is Cisqua (no, really :p)

Isis is...hmm...Viro? :uhoh::uhoh:

Saint X
2009-10-06, 05:52
No, Fate is Cisqua (no, really :p)

Isis is...hmm...Viro? :uhoh::uhoh:

lol Nana Mizuki VA joke much on Fate?

Unless proven otherwise, Isis stays as Cisqua.

prescience
2009-10-06, 06:15
Happy birthday.

What? it's not anyone's birthday?
well I have a present anyway.

[...]

Big thanks to Nagumo for translating and AtomicX for typesetting the second half.

Many thanks, great translators. We are not worthy... orz orz orz

Judging by Thoma's comment in panel 5 of page 26, it looks like "Suu-chan" is probably Subaru, and Thoma might be the guy who she rescued in the StrikerS epilogue. That means he has an older sister we haven't met, then...

And I love Isis's over-the-top genkiness here. Her facial expressions are priceless.

Keroko
2009-10-06, 09:50
Again...Nanoha WAS NEVER NORMAL TO BEGIN WITH...

Yeah, but there's a limit to ones suspension of disbelief. For me, this went way over it.

She's only illegal if she's caught. This may explain her crazy awesome magic power too.

Fate's not an Earthling. Hayate gained much power from the Tome of Darkness despite her Earthling status.

Which makes Nanoha the... different one of the group. I bet she's a MOONINITE. Or a displaced Martian from Negima.

Hey guys, that Negima/Nanoha crossover can work now.

Obviously, she's Graham's daughter, and Graham himself is the original alien.

Many thanks, great translators. We are not worthy... orz orz orz

Judging by Thoma's comment in panel 5 of page 26, it looks like "Suu-chan" is probably Subaru, and Thoma might be the guy who she rescued in the StrikerS epilogue. That means he has an older sister we haven't met, then...

And I love Isis's over-the-top genkiness here. Her facial expressions are priceless.

Doubtful, that kid had blonde hair, while Thoma's is brown.

And yes, Isis's expressions are priceless. And so many of them too, it's like a reborn (and taller) Konata.

prescience
2009-10-06, 10:41
Doubtful, that kid had blonde hair, while Thoma's is brown.
It's kinda hard to tell from the lighting in that scene. And the only piece of color artwork I could find of Thoma showed him with quite light brown hair. But I could be wrong.

And yes, Isis's expressions are priceless. And so many of them too, it's like a reborn (and taller) Konata.

I think you just broke my brain... :eyespin: :D

night_sentinel
2009-10-06, 12:28
Ummm.... guys... I know this is weird and unlikely but, doesn't Isis look suspiciously like someone we know... you know the still missing white devil that has yet to appear on the manga?

I know its crazy but Isis expression remind me so much of Nanoha, the uneven ponytail of sorts isn't helping... ^^

prescience
2009-10-06, 12:43
Crazy indeed, but funny nevertheless - that's what transformation magic is for, I suppose :p

Keroko
2009-10-06, 12:50
Now that would be the craziest of plot-twists. "Oh yeah, and I'm the Takamachi Nanoha, by the way. Just undercover."

FRS
2009-10-06, 13:56
I am wondering why Touma is still carrying Lily at the end as she's wearing cloth and shoes ?

NorthernFallout
2009-10-06, 13:59
Still weak perhaps. He's been carrying her ever since the start, I guess she's injured/weak from her awakening. Just a theory.

Kikaifan
2009-10-06, 14:57
She did not suffer from mistreating, bullying and was not driving while black.

It's just hard for me to take her seriously from now on.

If we use things people think when they're nine to decide whether to take them seriously or not I'm pretty sure there's no one alive who deserves to be taken seriously.

Rising Dragon
2009-10-06, 15:29
I am wondering why Touma is still carrying Lily at the end as she's wearing cloth and shoes ?

Still weak perhaps. He's been carrying her ever since the start, I guess she's injured/weak from her awakening. Just a theory.

I just chalk it up to her already having him wrapped around her finger.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-06, 15:30
I just chalk it up to her already having him wrapped around her finger.

Same here.

prescience
2009-10-06, 15:54
Maybe she's also tired from being woken up in the middle of the night. But I reckon she's got Thoma wrapped around her finger either way. Also, is it just me, or is Isis also quite smitten with Lily? :p

Godsdammit, the facial expressions in this chapter are just too damn cute... the mood whiplash is killing me.

Thoma seems to be shaping up as a good tsukkomi. Picture it: Thoma, Lily, Isis and Steed; travelling comedy troupe... :D

NorthernFallout
2009-10-06, 15:58
Think it's the first time NONE of the chars introduced so far annoy me. The quad squad is so <3 The sheer expressions, as mentioned, makes me melt. Especially Lily of course.

selkirk
2009-10-06, 17:21
Anyone scan these yet? These were part of a special supplement in NyanType #3. Looks like an artbook containing most of the posters from StS and beyond.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/selkirkb/Nanoha/th_DSCN0815.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/selkirkb/Nanoha/?action=view&current=DSCN0815.jpg) http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/selkirkb/Nanoha/th_DSCN0816.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/selkirkb/Nanoha/?action=view&current=DSCN0816.jpg) http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/selkirkb/Nanoha/th_DSCN0817.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/selkirkb/Nanoha/?action=view&current=DSCN0817.jpg) http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/selkirkb/Nanoha/th_DSCN0821.jpg (http://s262.photobucket.com/albums/ii95/selkirkb/Nanoha/?action=view&current=DSCN0821.jpg)

prescience
2009-10-06, 17:45
I think I've seen the first image, but I definitely haven't seen the other three. From the third image, the top subpicture with Fate and Hayate looks really awesome. As for the rest... fanservice~

I'm curious to know the context for the second subpic from the bottom, though, with Caro sleeping on Nanoha's lap. If they do plan on reinforcing NanoFate, it would be nice to see Nanoha taking more of a parental role towards Erio and Caro...

From the second image, badass Tea is badass. And in the fourth image, I quite like the changes they've made to Raising Heart for the movie.

Keroko
2009-10-06, 17:50
The second one has also been scanned, though never posted here.

let's change that:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Liinna/Nanoha/random/th_f6a502fc9ea690175d1dff989fe540fe.jpg (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Liinna/Nanoha/random/f6a502fc9ea690175d1dff989fe540fe.jpg)

Alavon
2009-10-06, 17:55
Is it just me or does the older Nanoha's head seem TOO big?

prescience
2009-10-06, 17:56
Ah, thanks. I can't say I care much for the way Nanoha and Signum are drawn (dammit, why can no-one ever draw Signum's face properly... ;_; ). Teana and the new Force chars look pretty cool, though.

I wonder, does Fate looks angry because of the camera angle? :p

Nvis
2009-10-06, 18:00
That girl with the dark blue hair beside the Force guy looks like Subaru in Cyborg mode(with the yellow eyes)

prescience
2009-10-06, 18:07
Yeah, I remember noticing that too, a while ago. That would resolve the "who is Suu-chan?" debate nicely... :p

D2
2009-10-06, 18:19
Just read ch. 2. It'll be REALLY interesting to find out how Thoma will react when he finds out what happened to that village. Angst FTW!!!

TheShinySword
2009-10-06, 18:30
I dont' think it was touma, I think it was some other user of his weapon or maybe there are other users. Think about it, no matter how powerful his weapon was, even if it can do cross dimensional damage, there's no way the people of that village could have seen him or his weapon because they were in different worlds.

D2
2009-10-06, 18:39
I dont' think it was touma, I think it was some other user of his weapon or maybe there are other users. Think about it, no matter how powerful his weapon was, even if it can do cross dimensional damage, there's no way the people of that village could have seen him or his weapon because they were in different worlds.

Oh, that village was on a different planet? Never mind then.

Rising Dragon
2009-10-06, 18:50
I am suddenly reminded of the Campaigner's plan for the Chronoscepter in Turok at the idea of that. >____>

Bananoha
2009-10-06, 19:31
Argh, I can't consider myself to be a speed-ish scanlator if I'm.... beaten.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ime53zwy2zm

A huge, robust serpent appeared...

And dove into the sea. It stabbed an apple with its broad sword, then fired rounds from its shiny, black, and imposing handgun.

LILY. LILITH. LILYTH.

INBOU DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Nya~n
2009-10-06, 19:32
I am wondering why Touma is still carrying Lily at the end as she's wearing cloth and shoes ?

"Oh my, Thoma, what big hands you have!"

"All the more to grope your leeeeegggggggggggssssssssssssssssss better, my dear"







*FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS*

RadiantBeam
2009-10-06, 19:38
"Oh my, Thoma, what big hands you have!"

"All the more to grope your leeeeegggggggggggssssssssssssssssss better, my dear"







*FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS*

I was waiting for someone to do that.... :heh:

Nagumo
2009-10-06, 19:39
Argh, I can't consider myself to be a speed-ish scanlator if I'm.... beaten.

http://www.mediafire.com/?ime53zwy2zm

A huge, robust serpent appeared...

And dove into the sea. It stabbed an apple with its broad sword, then fired rounds from its shiny, black, and imposing handgun.

LILY. LILITH. LILYTH.

INBOU DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Indeed really speedy translator beat you in terms of speed... but you, accurate and slightly speedy translator, beat really speedy translator by being more careful.

Noe
2009-10-06, 19:50
As always, lovely car that Fate owns.

Nvis
2009-10-06, 20:38
Now if someone could translate the ViVid chapter. :help:

Bananoha
2009-10-06, 20:56
Now if someone could translate the ViVid chapter. :help:Well, it is translated....Winterbraid from Wings of Yuri has done a translation of ViVid chapter 5, the script can be found: http://wingsofyuri.nekoslovakia.net/vivio/beta/vivid-05b.txt.... just not scanlated.Indeed really speedy translator beat you in terms of speed... but you, accurate and slightly speedy translator, beat really speedy translator by being more careful.To be honest, I compared both translations. I ended up re-checking parts that seemed pretty different. Argh, I can't clean/typeset/edit/TLC/QC/dead

Example - You said 9 times out of 10, while Basaka originally put 99%. He said Eclipse holder, too. Or something.

Luckily, I got off work earlier [yay puking], so I was able to "confirm" some things with someone I know who has JLPT2. Got me linked to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXBaxsKeh0w), too!

Jimmy C
2009-10-06, 21:29
That girl with the dark blue hair beside the Force guy looks like Subaru in Cyborg mode(with the yellow eyes)

No, that's Isis. Look at her position relative to Touma. Second, Isis isn't in the picture at all otherwise. That wouldn't be right for a main character.

Alavon
2009-10-06, 21:43
In my opinion, FORCE is too short, takes forever and so it's better off being animated. I don't think it belongs in a manga. Plus, if you never heard of Nanoha, FORCE would appear as if it was the first one of the series.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-06, 21:51
In my opinion, FORCE is too short, takes forever and so it's better off being animated. I don't think it belongs in a manga. Plus, if you never heard of Nanoha, FORCE would appear as if it was the first one of the series.

I think the only reason it's a manga right now is because everyone's still stepping carefully after what happened with StrikerS. It's much easier to cancel a manga than it is to cancel an anime.

Alavon
2009-10-06, 22:34
StrikerS was THAT bad? I actually thought it was the best one of the series...

prescience
2009-10-07, 00:38
Well, Fate and Teana were pretty worried about this "Eclipse", so it might be that one of the weapon's special abilities is to do damage across dimensions. It sure would suck if the village was some place important to Thoma, and the attack was focused there because he was thinking of it at the time... D:

EDIT: Whoah ninja'd epically. This was in reply to Shiny's post on the previous page.

@Alavon: Apparently it's sales figures are better than the first two seasons, but it does seem to have induced some spirited discussion in the fandom...

LoweGear
2009-10-07, 00:56
Keep in mind though that the villagers actually SAW the pair of people responsible, and even managed to see their weapons, which wouldn't be possible if Thoma's attack was an interdimensional one that came from another planet. The implication of course is that the culprits were physically present on the village when it was blasted, and not taking potshots from another planet in another dimension.

prescience
2009-10-07, 01:05
I was thinking along the lines of the attack somehow causing him to be in both places at once. Doesn't seem very likely, but it would explain things. Just an idea.

LoweGear
2009-10-07, 01:16
Or, the simplest explanation: There are two sets of Dividers, and also another man/woman pair responsible for the incidents. We know that there have been 10 attacks of this nature so far, and yet all indications point out that Thoma has only ever fired 1 Divide Zero attack so far at this point. Add to the fact that Thoma and Lily are presumably still in the same world (with the communications inconvenience being mentioned again this chapter), and it seems likely that there's another pair of culprits on the loose.

There's also the fact that Lily may not be the only one of her kind out there: She is labelled as "Strosek the 4th" last chapter afterall, implying that there are at least 3 more before her.

Keroko
2009-10-07, 01:20
I think the only reason it's a manga right now is because everyone's still stepping carefully after what happened with StrikerS. It's much easier to cancel a manga than it is to cancel an anime.

Oh? And apart from being the best selling season of the series, what did happen with Strikers?

No, what I think is that they use these two different manga, one with a more traditional 'magical girl at school' story, and the other a more darker military one. Of course, there are a variety of other possible reasons too.

prescience
2009-10-07, 01:35
We know that there have been 10 attacks of this nature so far, and yet all indications point out that Thoma has only ever fired 1 Divide Zero attack so far at this point.
Ah, I must have missed that.

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-07, 02:20
Strosek the 4th...

...

...I wonder if I'll meet Strosek the 10032th. Or the rest of her 20,000 Sisters. After all, #00004 is with Kamijyo Thoma. :uhoh:

FRS
2009-10-07, 02:21
In my opinion, FORCE is too short, takes forever and so it's better off being animated. I don't think it belongs in a manga. Plus, if you never heard of Nanoha, FORCE would appear as if it was the first one of the series.


Err i dont follow you here, what you mean by "too short" ? and by "take forever" ? it's a monthly manga and we are at chapter 2 i dont see the problem right now.

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-07, 02:23
Monthly manga to me takes forever. Imagine Negima being monthly... :heh:

FRS
2009-10-07, 03:47
Monthly manga to me takes forever. Imagine Negima being monthly... :heh:

*shrug* i am used to this kind of schedule (Ex: Gunslinger girl) or even worst (you often have to wait a full year for a new volume of an european graphic novel).

Beside with more time the artist have more time to draw details :)

PhoenixG
2009-10-07, 03:57
Err i dont follow you here, what you mean by "too short" ? and by "take forever" ? it's a monthly manga and we are at chapter 2 i dont see the problem right now.

wasn't it 2 monthly manga instead 1 monthly?

RadiantBeam
2009-10-07, 11:07
Oh? And apart from being the best selling season of the series, what did happen with Strikers?

Wasn't there a big fandom divide over StrikerS? At least I remember reading somewhere that that was the the main reason Vivid and Force were both in manga format, so that if the same thing happened again they could be canceled easily and forgotten.

DezoPenguin
2009-10-07, 12:09
Wasn't there a big fandom divide over StrikerS? At least I remember reading somewhere that that was the the main reason Vivid and Force were both in manga format, so that if the same thing happened again they could be canceled easily and forgotten.

Actually, more of a big fandom divide in the West, if I understand correctly. The series took a sharp left turn in mood when it (a) sailed off to alien worlds and (b) grew the main characters up to near-adults instead of leaving them cute lil' lolis. Lots of They Changed It Now It Sucks from the Western fans. As Keroko points out, that wasn't the reaction in Japan, where StrikerS and its setting were much more thoroughly embraced, leading to a boom of merchandising (and the financial support for the movie getting greenlit).

itanshi1
2009-10-07, 12:28
Ah well, I never understood the need for a divide. The series was enhanced by being further explored and expanded. I mean that's what we writers do here. Who writes loli anyways? No wonder vivid angers me, but I could get over it. Although, currently not much is happening at all.

Nanya01
2009-10-07, 12:32
To be honest, StrikerS, I loved that better than any anime that came out of 2007 (yes, above Gurren Lagann and Code Geass, and I LIKE Gurren Lagann a lot).

Mostly because of the part near the end... Where Vivio, in her Saint Kaiser form, was crying and asking Nanoha to kill her because she was just someone who wasn't supposed to live, just helping the Cradle move and she wasn't a real person and Nanoha shaking her head goes "no, you're Vivio, the little girl that I've been taking care of. The girl that's crying in front of me... Those tears are real. So tell me, Vivio, what do you want?"

"I want... I want... I want to go home with Nanoha-mama and Fate-mama... Mama... Save me..."

DAMMIT! i'm tearing up again! That scene ALWAYS does that to me!

itanshi1
2009-10-07, 12:39
lol, i mean, you are correct, but code geass was my fav and not because of the fanbase, its just patently awesome.

Not my favorite fandom tho, I'm here afterall

Tabasco
2009-10-07, 18:52
One of these days I need to watch Code Geass.

Anyway, StrikerS grew on me as time went on. I actually prefer the grown up cast to the originals by a long shot. Not to mention the last third of the series is awesome, plot holes or not.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-07, 18:57
StrikerS was my favorite season of the series, by far. I liked seeing Nanoha and Fate all grown up, and I enjoyed the plot regardless of its holes and bad timing. I thought a lot of the new characters were really cool.

DezoPenguin
2009-10-07, 19:35
StrikerS was my favorite season of the series, by far. I liked seeing Nanoha and Fate all grown up, and I enjoyed the plot regardless of its holes and bad timing. I thought a lot of the new characters were really cool.

My real problem was that I watched StrikerS first, so they were ALL new to me! But once the Hotel Augusta episodes rolled around, I was firmly hooked. The auction mission, plus Tea's personal crisis issues, swept away the otherwise sloooooooow development of the earlier episodes. Though when I saw the "Next Episode" promo for Ep. 10, I was like, "Gah, you finally do something good and new there's MORE filler?!?" but of course we all know that that was classic "Trailers Always Lie." :D It's still my favorite out of the series, though. GrownUp!NanoFate plus Vivio plus Tea plus political conspiracy = win. And eps 21-25 completely owned me. And my wallet, considering what CDs cost to order from Japan.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-07, 19:41
My real problem was that I watched StrikerS first, so they were ALL new to me! But once the Hotel Augusta episodes rolled around, I was firmly hooked. The auction mission, plus Tea's personal crisis issues, swept away the otherwise sloooooooow development of the earlier episodes. Though when I saw the "Next Episode" promo for Ep. 10, I was like, "Gah, you finally do something good and new there's MORE filler?!?" but of course we all know that that was classic "Trailers Always Lie." :D It's still my favorite out of the series, though. GrownUp!NanoFate plus Vivio plus Tea plus political conspiracy = win. And eps 21-25 completely owned me. And my wallet, considering what CDs cost to order from Japan.

I have all three seasons on my iPod. :p

Though the subtitles for StrikerS get cut off... ah, well.

Anh_Minh
2009-10-08, 17:54
Hm. Hayate looked surprisingly good with long hair. Not as cute, but more beautiful.

Alavon
2009-10-08, 19:06
Err i dont follow you here, what you mean by "too short" ? and by "take forever" ? it's a monthly manga and we are at chapter 2 i don't see the problem right now.

1. "Too short"= I'm mean that it's only 32-33 pages long for a "serious" series (death anyone?). We're in the second chapter, yeah, but we haven't LEARNED much or set the groundwork. All we know...check spoiler....

All we know is that the guy has a book and a weapon that seems to have a twin killing people. Then they mention so many things that it's hard to remember. I mean, don't get me wrong, it is too early but most mangas tell you up front what it's basically about and not just, "huh"? And remember, "Nanoha" was created as a anime, not as a manga.)


2. "Takes forever"= new chapter every two months and we STILL don't know anything. That's what I mean. But it's my opinion. You don't have to agree with me.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-08, 19:25
1. "Too short"= I'm mean that it's only 32-33 pages long for a "serious" series (death anyone?). We're in the second chapter, yeah, but we haven't LEARNED much or set the groundwork. All we know...check spoiler....

All we know is that the guy has a book and a weapon that seems to have a twin killing people. Then they mention so many things that it's hard to remember. I mean, don't get me wrong, it is too early but most mangas tell you up front what it's basically about and not just, "huh"? And remember, "Nanoha" was created as a anime, not as a manga.)


2. "Takes forever"= new chapter every two months and we STILL don't know anything. That's what I mean. But it's my opinion. You don't have to agree with me.

Well, it's only two chapters in. You can't expect to get all the information right away, otherwise they wouldn't have anything to build up on for the plot in later chapters. :heh:

Michael Brazier
2009-10-08, 22:01
2. "Takes forever"= new chapter every two months and we STILL don't know anything. That's what I mean. But it's my opinion. You don't have to agree with me.

Actually, we know a good deal -- background, mostly, but at this point background is what we need to know. We know the world Toma found Lily on is technologically backward, with very limited off-planet communications. We know what sort of man Toma is, and why he went where he did. We know that, because he rescued Lily, he's now carrying a ridiculously powerful weapon that is the focus of an official TSAB investigation -- which is obviously what the story is about. We've met Isis, and gotten a read on her character. And we've had a number of mysterious hints about Lily. For two chapters (64 comics pages) that's a fair chunk of plot.

And Force is, frankly, a lot more focused than Vivid. As it looks now, the Hegemon Ingvalt is meant to be the central character, but she didn't show up on panel until chapter 4. The pages spent on Vivio's life in the first 3 chapters appear, as of now, to be quite unconnected to the Ingvalt plotline, and they don't cohere into a plotline of their own; all they say is "Vivio has many good friends, loves her mamas, and is happy." Vivid's done less to advance its plot, at almost twice the page count, than Force has ...

Evil Rick
2009-10-08, 22:11
1. "Too short"= I'm mean that it's only 32-33 pages long for a "serious" series (death anyone?). We're in the second chapter, yeah, but we haven't LEARNED much or set the groundwork. All we know...check spoiler....

All we know is that the guy has a book and a weapon that seems to have a twin killing people. Then they mention so many things that it's hard to remember. I mean, don't get me wrong, it is too early but most mangas tell you up front what it's basically about and not just, "huh"? And remember, "Nanoha" was created as a anime, not as a manga.)



It's pretty obvious that the guys has a clon or twin or someone else pretending to be him doing the "bad" thinsg we saw in chapter 3. I can't tell you if it's true that mangas reveal the main plot since the begining but as a fanatic of MARVEL I can tell you that work with "uh?"s is very usefull to catch the audience and makes them wonder what's hapening so they will look forward to next chapter, I saw this on World War Hulk, I sawe this in Secret Invasion, I saw this on Avengers the initiative and it turned out to be very good. (although ofcourse this doesn't mean they should release 50 question chapters before starting to revela what's going on. XP)

RadiantBeam
2009-10-08, 22:12
Vivid's done less to advance its plot, at almost twice the page count, than Force has ...

Hence why currently, Force is my favorite publication of the two.

FRS
2009-10-09, 03:35
wasn't it 2 monthly manga instead 1 monthly?

i thought it's monthly but i could be mistaken.



...
That's what I mean. But it's my opinion. You don't have to agree with me.


*shrug*

I found Force's pacing thigther.

Keroko
2009-10-09, 03:45
Force, or rather Nyantype, is a bi-monthly magazine. This may explain Force feeling slow, as with only two chapters a month the story itself only progresses at... well... two chapters a month. Vivid, meanwhile, comes out monthly, so even though the pace in Force is faster, Vivid feels faster because it gives us more chapters in the same amount of time.

prescience
2009-10-09, 04:43
i thought it's monthly but i could be mistaken.
ViVid is monthly; Force is released once every two months (bimonthly? semi-monthly?).

I found Force's pacing thigther.
In terms of amount of plot development per chapter, I would agree. The two-months-between-chapters thing detracts from that a bit, unfortunately...

EDIT: D'oh. Didn't see page 211...

Nanya01
2009-10-12, 00:55
I need to wonder if someone has the scanlation of chapter 5 of ViVid done yet?

I don't have the software to do it myself, sadly, or I would have done it. :-/

TheShinySword
2009-10-12, 11:16
Nope, I'd do it myself but since Wings of Yuri does it regularly and the only translation out is from them (iirc) it'd be rude to use that for a speed scanlation.

FRS
2009-10-12, 15:38
Chap 5 of Vivid has been released.

Nanya01
2009-10-12, 15:41
Chap 5 of Vivid has been released.

A translated copy? That's what I'm looking for.

Bananoha
2009-10-12, 16:02
I don't have the software to do it myself, sadly, or I would have done it. :-/I'd do it if someone from Wings of Yuri gave me the thumbs up. :V

Hmm, how long has it been since the Nanoha movie mango raws came out....

FRS
2009-10-12, 16:05
A translated copy? That's what I'm looking for.

Yes Wing of Yuri released their version.

Nanya01
2009-10-12, 16:07
I'd do it if someone from Wings of Yuri gave me the thumbs up. :V

Hmm, how long has it been since the Nanoha movie mango raws came out....

Almost 12 days now.

@FRS: Got a download link?

FRS
2009-10-12, 16:12
Link to their homepage (http://www.solelo.com/blog/)

TheShinySword
2009-10-12, 17:17
How coincidental that they released it today :o

motaku96
2009-10-12, 20:02
I just randomly bought an issue of megami magazine today. Just saw it at the store and felt like getting it. It's my first regular issue(have gotten special issues like the vol.100 before). Anyway, it's vol.108 from may of this year. There was a short little comic in it, it looked like it was part of an ongoing series. So does anyone know if there're scans of this series flying around the internet and if anyone has or plans to translate them?

http://i639.photobucket.com/albums/uu118/motaku96/th_DSCN1732.jpg (http://s639.photobucket.com/albums/uu118/motaku96/?action=view&current=DSCN1732.jpg)
Sorry about the quality. I don't have a scanner with me.

I should check out the other threads in animesuki. I didn't even know there was a manga section.

Evil Rick
2009-10-12, 22:08
How coincidental that they released it today :o

What's the coincidense?

Nanya01
2009-10-12, 22:39
What's the coincidense?

That I asked right a little after Midnight (my time) for a translated copy and what do you know? It got released today.

Evil Rick
2009-10-12, 22:45
That I asked right a little after Midnight (my time) for a translated copy and what do you know? It got released today.

Humm... well that's something.

Coincidense also that it came out on my birthday. :heh:
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Just read chapter 5 and I got to say that it was too much talk and perhaps they rushed a bit on the motives of... the girl (Damn, why I can't record names correctly?) I dunno but perhaps leaving them on mystery would had been a bit more intereting, but, oh well, I don't share minds with the guionist so perhaps there are still surprises on Vivid. :)

And thanks godness, no fanservice in this chapter. :heh:

JINNSK
2009-10-13, 09:49
From Newtype Nov issue,the 2nd of Tsuzuki's column.
Like the 1st,this column is not related to Nanoha.The topic in this month is his view for audio/sound dramas.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/newtype/th_Lyricaldrop002.jpg (http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/nanoha/magazine/newtype/Lyricaldrop002.jpg)

Keroko
2009-10-13, 09:56
It may not have anything to do with Nanoha, but it has a cute loli Hayate in uniform with earphones, so its forgiven.

Come to think of it... this is the first official image of Hayate in the white uniform, isn't it?

RadiantBeam
2009-10-13, 19:27
Hayate looks adorable in the white uniform.

Rising Dragon
2009-10-13, 20:22
Hayate just looks adorable, period.

Nita
2009-10-13, 20:31
D: Cute Hayate is Cute *-*

Nya~n
2009-10-14, 00:04
Hayate's period just looks adorable.


*is Ragnarok-ed*

RadiantBeam
2009-10-18, 11:09
So any news on Vivid or Force? This place has been dead lately.

TheShinySword
2009-10-18, 15:40
We're just waitin'~
Waitin'~
Waitin' for the next chapter to arrive~

Nanya01
2009-10-22, 15:32
There's about... Eight days until the next chapter of ViVid.

So, thoughts? Predictions? Theories?

Is Vivio going to have to befriend someone?

Is Ignvalt being used by her guardian or parent?

Will the Nakajima sisters have more screen time and development alongside Vivio?

prescience
2009-10-22, 15:51
Is Vivio going to have to befriend someone?
Probably not yet, but definitely in the next 3 or 4 chapters.

Is Ingvalt being used by her guardian or parent?
Probably, assuming she has one.

Will the Nakajima sisters have more screen time and development alongside Vivio?
I hope so. Nove and Subaru, probably. I'd love to see more of Gin-nee, Cinque-sama, Wendi and Dieci, too, but they probably won't get major parts.

EDIT: Wow, I use the word "probably" a lot...

Keroko
2009-10-22, 15:54
EDIT: Wow, I use the word "probably" a lot...

Probably.

*ducks under the smack*

There's always the chance of Ein trying to take the spar too far once she puts one and one together and figures out that Vivio is one of the emperors she is targeting.

Nanya01
2009-10-22, 16:00
Probably.

*ducks under the smack*

There's always the chance of Ein trying to take the spar too far once she puts one and one together and figures out that Vivio is one of the emperors she is targeting.

Hmm... Bets that if it goes that far, that Ein gets held down by Nakajima Numbers?

prescience
2009-10-22, 16:03
@Keroko: Ah yes, there is that. I had kinda assumed that she already knew, but re-reading chapter 5 it seems that I was overly hasty there...

Also, it's been said before, but Ein is SO DAMN CUTE on page 15...

EDIT:
@Nanya: But in the training session we saw earlier, it was just Nove and Wendi. I wonder how good Wendi is at close-quarters combat?

RadiantBeam
2009-10-22, 19:53
I wonder how good Wendi is at close-quarters combat?

Depends on how powerful they need her to be to keep the plot moving. :p

Rising Dragon
2009-10-22, 20:01
Regardless of her skill, I know I wouldn't want to get hit by that surfboard she calls a gun. =X

MeisterBabylon
2009-10-23, 02:21
Give her a pair of autopistols and she's set to go hoverboard Gungrave-ing. :p

Ottocycle
2009-10-23, 03:08
Give her a pair of autopistols and she's set to go hoverboard Gungrave-ing. :p
Needs more Nirvash typeELEVEN.:uhoh:

Wendi doing Cut-Back-Drop-Turns will be awesome mecha homage.

JINNSK
2009-10-23, 03:43
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/th_vivid_ch06_01.jpg (http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/vivid_ch06_01.jpg) http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/th_vivid_ch06_02.jpg (http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/vivid_ch06_02.jpg)Poster
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/th_compace200912_halloween.jpg (http://s264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/compace200912_halloween.jpg)

Laevatein
2009-10-23, 03:44
Wasn't the Nirvash also referred to as the "White Devil"?

prescience
2009-10-23, 04:01
Woot, more Nakajima sisters...

Oh, and Otto and Deed. :p

Nanya01
2009-10-23, 09:45
Looks like Wendi said something that Nove didn't like. XD Nove is so Tsundere for Wendi, isn't she?

prescience
2009-10-23, 09:49
My thoughts exactly.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-23, 10:22
Shiny's ship is canon! XD

Alavon
2009-10-23, 13:53
http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/JINNSK/tmp/th_compace200912_halloween.jpg

Vampire!Fate and Witch!Nanoha!! XD Vivio and that other who's-name-is-too-difficult-to-write both look ADORABLE! :eyespin:
Me want posters....

Lord Pertinax
2009-10-24, 00:44
Vampire!Fate and Witch!Nanoha!! XD Vivio and that other who's-name-is-too-difficult-to-write both look ADORABLE! :eyespin:
Me want posters....

Yes, poster looks good. Want one too.

TheShinySword
2009-10-24, 08:47
Shiny's ship is canon! XD

Bwah ha ha ha! *Sails her WxN Ship and fires of many many cannons*

JINNSK
2009-10-26, 03:04
Fujima's blog (http://fujima-blog.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/) was updated and he wrote about the new Nanoha project.

それと、今後の話なのですが
まずはブログでお伝えしていた新企画ですが詳細が決定しました!!11/10発売のコンプティークより、リリカルなのはA'sポータブルのイラスト連載企画がスタートしま す
こちらはなんと原作の都築さんがシナリオを描いてくれるそうです^^

I want somebody to translate the above Japanese.:heh:
The story is written by Tsuzuki Masaki and illustration is drawn by Fujima Tatsuya.But it is not a comic but seems to be a content related to the PSP A's game.It is serialized on Kadokawa'magazine Comptiq and starts from the Dec issue that comes out on Nov 10.

Nanya01
2009-10-26, 09:58
That's, what? A 4th Nanoha manga that will be ongoing at the same time now?

ViVid, Force, Movie and now the game?

...

AWESOME! :D

I feel almost as good as I did when I found out that there was new Slayers seasons that were getting dubbed by Funimation.

Bananoha
2009-10-26, 10:40
I want somebody to translate the above Japanese.:heh:Yeah.... Portable illustration? So, I'm just guessing this is going to come on PSP disc with the magazine.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-26, 13:42
Why is there a manga based off a fighting game? o_O

Not that I'm complaining. :D Just seems kind of odd.

goombas
2009-10-26, 14:00
Wasn't there a manga based on the .hack// series? It's about the equivalent of that, I guess.

DKN117
2009-10-26, 17:11
I just read a comment on tvtropes.org's 'Toy Ship' page that Caro's been plotting for a few years to "get" Erio. Is this true? Where is it mentioned? Manga? Sound Stage?

RadiantBeam
2009-10-26, 17:14
I just read a comment on tvtropes.org's 'Toy Ship' page that Caro's been plotting for a few years to "get" Erio. Is this true? Where is it mentioned? Manga? Sound Stage?

All I've ever seen of Caro wanting to "get" Erio is as a gag in the short comic strips that spoof the series. I've never heard that Caro is actually planning to "get" Erio in canon, though it honestly wouldn't surprise me if she was. It's always the cute ones.

NorthernFallout
2009-10-26, 17:23
Yea, it's fanon, but I have no doubt she have elaborate plans detailing their life and his *cough* capture *cough*. I, for one, wish her luck.

RadiantBeam
2009-10-26, 17:24
Are these elaborate plans of hers Fate-approved?

NorthernFallout
2009-10-26, 17:32
Well... it wouldn't need approval if she don't know about it, right? Besides, Caro only needs to do the puppy-eye routine and it's a deal.