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Catgirls
2006-10-10, 07:30
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LightningZERO
2006-10-10, 12:41
Checked the site. LOL. I don't know why but it's really funny when I see the picture with Kira words and the poster writes Athrun beside it!
Wow, a lot of people complaining about Light's sister's voice on 2ch. Now I'm almost more curious to hear it than L's!
Oh, wait, I forgot. It's Hagu's VA. That should be interesting. (I liked her in Noein, and thought she did better in the second season of HachiKuro than the first, though...)
The RAW out
Going now to take it
See you later
Omniscient
2006-10-10, 14:46
Episode 02 Screencaps and Summary (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2006/10/10/death-note-02/)
I loved watching L outwit Light in this episode. I didn't mind Light's sister's voice or L's voice, though L wasn't quite what I was expecting (though not in a bad way).
MrProphet
2006-10-10, 17:53
Excellent second episode. L is even more sociopathic than Kira, but it was great seeing L trick Light in that little game of cat and mouse.
Something tells me that as times goes by, Light is going to be more and more hysterical. It's obvious that he can't handle the challenge without destroying the moral base he stands upon. His premise of becoming God is already crumbling. I've had a thought that subconsciously Light wanted to be captured, wanted to be known as Kira, the Ultimate Criminal, or he wouldn't have killed all those men in a manner that would attract so much attention.
Light revels in the stoplight, he seemingly loves being chased. Whether his purpose is fame or he is testing his newly-found Godhood, time will show.
My only concern with the episode was that they've reused the music from the 1st episode for the dramatic scene with L. I wonder if they'll use it over and over again, every time giving the viewer an aural cue to be excited. That would not be good.
Finally got to see the ep. Damn, Kappei as L made my heart skip a beat. Several beats. Sooo cooool. It's nice to see him play a (somewhat) serious role for a change.
Overall, great ep. Really got my blood racing near the end.
(Oh, and Light's sister's voice wasn't as bad as 2ch made it out to be. :p But I like that sort of natural tone.)
dxgarten
2006-10-10, 19:13
Episode 02 screencaps and impression (http://www.designchronicle.com/memento/archives/death_note_ep02.html)
That final scene between Light and L was awesome. It's nice to see Light getting bait so easily like that. I can't wait to see the revenge though.
Srin Tuar
2006-10-10, 19:57
Wow, excellent ep2.
Whoever this L character is, I like his style.
Im sortof skeptical that he'd be able to hide from all the worlds intelligence agencies though, that parts a bit fakish.
Anyway, I'm still avoiding this forum, because this is a mystery type show its critical not to get spoiled too much :)
Thanks for linking the summaries. I watched the raw, and there was quite a bit that I didn't understand.
So ... did Light set up that website himself? That's a rather risky thing to do ...
And, I didn't recognise L's voice actor at all. Even after knowing, I went back and still couldn't recognise it. And I'm such a Detective Conan fan too ... for shame =(.
White Manju Bun
2006-10-10, 20:16
question - do I love this anime
answer - YES!!!
Raito's evil last is awesome (he sounded more like Tamaki in this epi, I think)
Ending was awesome, I love L.
Also I did notice about the use of the same music but you gotta remember that most anime reuse the music. I love the Ouran OST but if you watch the epis you hear the same music over and over.
So ... did Light set up that website himself? That's a rather risky thing to do ...
No.
Basically, its presence shows that people are already recognizing him as a burgeoning "god" and that they approve of what he's doing, even though few of them would say so aloud, away from the anonymity of the Internet.
I was very skeptical of Yamaguchi Kappei as L, but dear lord was I ever impressed by him; I've never heard him sound like that. I can't wait to hear more. :love:
Li Jianliang
2006-10-10, 20:44
Episode 2 Screen Captures (http://atashi.animeblogger.net/2006/10/death-note-episode-2-confrontation/)
The best part of the episode, in my opinion, was when Lind L. Taylor appeared on TV and I thought that the animators wouldn't show Light writing down the name and have Lind get dramatically heart attack'ed (thus scaring the heck out of me in my darkened room). Good thing that didn't happen...Hmm, I, for one, thought that L's voice was a bit too mature-sounding for his character.
Hmm, I, for one, thought that L's voice was a bit too mature-sounding for his character.
Well, L is 25.
Itachikun
2006-10-10, 22:06
Actually, L's VA is actually the same person who did Usopp (One Piece) and Inuyasha (Um,,, Inuyasha?! :p)... That's why when i first heard L's voice, it sounded like a ery serious Usopp.
I love this episode, let the battle between Kira and L begin! Gets a 9, not that perfect :(
CarpeDiem
2006-10-10, 22:17
I absolutely loved episode 2, especially the . . .
final scene of L outsmarting Light (one of my favorite scenes in the manga).
The way they pulled off the scene - with the background music and general mood of the scene - was really awesome. I am very satisfied with how they executed it. L's my favorite character. I think his voice is great, and I'm glad the computer-generated voice is not as high-pitched and annoying as the movie version.
They're on a roll. Let's hope they keep up the high quality.
Finally got to see the ep. Damn, Kappei as L made my heart skip a beat. Several beats. Sooo cooool. It's nice to see him play a (somewhat) serious role for a change.
I was very skeptical of Yamaguchi Kappei as L, but dear lord was I ever impressed by him; I've never heard him sound like that. I can't wait to hear more. :love:
Hmm, I, for one, thought that L's voice was a bit too mature-sounding for his character.
From these responses, I guess I can breath a sigh of relief. Ever since I read on ANN that Yamaguchi Kappei was gonna do L, all I could think about was the image of L moving his mouth and the voice of Usopp/Inuyasha/Ranma/Raimon Tarou coming out. Not that those characters sounded bad, just that the pitch of their voices seemed a bit too high for what I expected L to sound like.
Based on the trailers for the live-action movie, it seems like L uses a voice filter to communicate (you wouldn't be able to tell from the manga), so after I watched those I could imagine Kappei doing the voices for that. I just still had a hard time wrapping my head around him doing the non-altered voice for L. =p
LightningZERO
2006-10-10, 23:36
Another great episode. The best part is L owning Light. The music really fit the situation very well. Yamaguchi Kappei really plays L well. He sounds different than what I had expected. I was thinking L will have the sound of Kido Shinichi, but it is very different. Never feel L is so cool before!!! Oh, and Light shows some signs of madness when L owns him. He lost his 'innocence' way too fast.
Li Jianliang
2006-10-11, 04:38
Well, L is 25.I thought...L is at the same age as Light...? ;_; That went so much better in the doujins... Nooo....
StrawHatLuffy
2006-10-11, 06:52
From these responses, I guess I can breath a sigh of relief. Ever since I read on ANN that Yamaguchi Kappei was gonna do L, all I could think about was the image of L moving his mouth and the voice of Usopp/Inuyasha/Ranma/Raimon Tarou coming out. Not that those characters sounded bad, just that the pitch of their voices seemed a bit too high for what I expected L to sound like.
Based on the trailers for the live-action movie, it seems like L uses a voice filter to communicate (you wouldn't be able to tell from the manga), so after I watched those I could imagine Kappei doing the voices for that. I just still had a hard time wrapping my head around him doing the non-altered voice for L. =p
Same here. I heaved a huge sigh of relief when I heard his voice. I was expecting "Usopp" to sprout from L's mouth.
A great episode, the scene at the end was done pretty well that got even a manga reader excited. Gets a 9 from me for somewhat reordering some scenes.
Apparantly, the next few episodes are going to be outside subcontract studio work ("gross work" as it's termed in Japanese animation field).
Which normally means a possibility of lower quality than normal Madhouse episode.
Of course, gross work doesn't always mean bad quality, as there's been numerous cases where the subcontracted studio put up a even better quality animation than the main studio! :D
Do you recall seeing anime that is sub-par quality in average, but all of a sudden getting an episode or two with over-the-top quality?
Many times those are result of a "good" subcontract studio.
However, in most cases it means dip in quality.
Death Note is 3 seasons long, and Madhouse is simultaniously working on 10 anime projects... including Black Lagoon Second Barrage.
Although they do have multiple production teams, Death Note going for a series of gross episodes (rumored to be from ep3-ep6), may mean some main Madhouse staff are going over to Black Lagoon to help out.
Apparantly, the next few episodes are going to be outside subcontract studio work ("gross work" as it's termed in Japanese animation field).
Which normally means a possibility of lower quality than normal Madhouse episode.
Of course, gross work doesn't always mean bad quality, as there's been numerous cases where the subcontracted studio put up a even better quality animation than the main studio! :D
Do you recall seeing anime that is sub-par quality in average, but all of a sudden getting an episode or two with over-the-top quality?
Many times those are result of a "good" subcontract studio.
However, in most cases it means dip in quality.
Death Note is 3 seasons long, and Madhouse is simultaniously working on 10 anime projects... including Black Lagoon Second Barrage.
Although they do have multiple production teams, Death Note going for a series of gross episodes (rumored to be from ep3-ep6), may mean some main Madhouse staff are going over to Black Lagoon to help out.
My greatest fear is that because it's Madhouse, they're definitely going to subcontract at least one episode to the closely related Dr. Movie. Their quality level, I'm afraid, still leaves a certain amoutn to be desired. :( Even with simpler designs like in Kemonozume they didn't do a good job...
Another great episode. The best part is L owning Light. The music really fit the situation very well. Yamaguchi Kappei really plays L well. He sounds different than what I had expected. I was thinking L will have the sound of Kido Shinichi, but it is very different. Never feel L is so cool before!!! Oh, and Light shows some signs of madness when L owns him. He lost his 'innocence' way too fast.
Actually, this already started from the first episode when Light keeps writing name after name in the DEATH NOTE without rest, and the criminals are shown dying out of the blue.
I have not watched episode two as of yet, but I have read the synopsis from Omni's blog.
This is basically the theme for the plot of DEATH NOTE. Light's gradual and progressive loss of his mind, as he's consumed on what he truly believes justice for the people and punishment for the wrongdoers because he has now power that the DEATH NOTE grants him.
In less than one episode Light has already gone to the denial stage. He fervorously upholds to his beliefs, but 'L' steps out from the shadows and condemns his actions and voices him wrong.
Of course, Light takes retaliation for L's insolence to no avail, realizing he has found the form of his shoe in L.
Even if the quality drops - what could it possibly mean ?
That is...the story is finished, they cant make it worse. What, lower quality animation ? Does it even matters for this kind of series ?
Light's gradual and progressive loss of his mind
How dare you to blaspheme on your God ?!!
Repeat after me :
Light is Right !
Light is Right !
Light is Right !
I know what _I_ would have done if i had the Death Note. Exactly the same thing. Well, i am not that cunning, of course, but there is no genius L around to stop me.
ShikaShika
2006-10-11, 16:20
I absolutely loved episode 2, especially the . . .
final scene of L outsmarting Light (one of my favorite scenes in the manga).
The way they pulled off the scene - with the background music and general mood of the scene - was really awesome. I am very satisfied with how they executed it. L's my favorite character. I think his voice is great, and I'm glad the computer-generated voice is not as high-pitched and annoying as the movie version.
They're on a roll. Let's hope they keep up the high quality.
I agree with everything you just said. L is my favourite character hands down. For those of you who haven't read the manga but are already saying you like him, you ain't seen nothing yet. :p
DoReMiFaSo
2006-10-12, 09:28
Wow, ep 2 is great.
If ep 1 didn't impress me, ep 2 surely did. I agree with everyone that the last scene is just great. It gives me the thrills. :)
guiltygearxt
2006-10-12, 10:13
Wow, ep 2 is great.
If ep 1 didn't impress me, ep 2 surely did. I agree with everyone that the last scene is just great. It gives me the thrills. :)
agreed
the last scene was just gosu, right when L finished his speech and Light covered his face w/ hand then BAM!! awsome background music and his revived dark spirit arose then they talked 2 each other thro minds....oh god that was a godly finish
that scene was the highlight in ep 2
edit:
2ND EPSIDOES IS OUT!!
http://www.baka-updates.com/releases.php
Death Note - 02 Live-eviL
click the d/l arrow on the far right
Loki.Nya
2006-10-12, 15:16
Damn... this series is soooo great!
Really can't wait to see more of it :)
But uhmm... wouldn't it be more easier for L to just check to who the website is registered to? Or check IP and stuff? :P
Oh well, doesn't matter tho, more fun this way.
btw, does anyone know the name of the song with the orchestra? can't find it anywhere.
But uhmm... wouldn't it be more easier for L to just check to who the website is registered to? Or check IP and stuff? :P
Light didn't make the website. Think of it as a Kira fanlisting/fansite or something. :heh:
Quajafrie
2006-10-12, 16:05
Awesome. I read the first chapters of the manga before 2 years or so, and the only thing I remembered was the 'fight' between Light and L. The anime adaptation of it was just perfect.
ichigoismyhomie
2006-10-12, 16:17
Awesome. I read the first chapters of the manga before 2 years or so, and the only thing I remembered was the 'fight' between Light and L. The anime adaptation of it was just perfect.
I totally agreed with quajafrie. This is, so far, is one of the manga-based anime that stick with original story. It hasn't stray away from the manga, nor adding stuffs into the story like many manga-based animes.
I don't know about you, but I don't really see any sub-par quality on ep2 compare to ep1. I say ep2 is even better than ep1 in general. But then, this is a thriller/mystery anime. I don't see how sub-par animation will greatly affect the quality of the story. It might be true for action anime, but i don't think so for death note. Beside, i find ryuk is pretty entertaining to watch.
The mangaka's perception of a shinigami totally changed my view. I'm so used with shinigami image from bleach, but death note surely take on a different toll. Hopefully this anime will stick to the manga...at least until the first season is over
Darklightz
2006-10-12, 17:36
It was very interesting to see one of the many duels of the mind between L and Kira animated.
I'm also glad that I like both Light and L's voices,becayse they both will be doing most of the talking.
Ep 2 was pretty sweet esspecially towards the end when L tricked Light. Looks like this will be interesting now that he has a an arch-rival.
guiltygearxt
2006-10-12, 20:25
last part is just beautiful
This was a brilliant episode! The moment the Japanese ICPO representative said that almost no one has ever seen the face of L or learned of his true identity, we just knew that that was going to spell trouble for Light.
Then, the last five minutes of the episode. That was just too fun to watch. Two masterminds will now be pitted one against the other. I can't wait to see what tricks these two will have up their sleeves.
Excellent episode.
As has been said, L's voice is quite nice. At this point it's above excellent, but when they couple it with his face, it may seem different. However, I think it'll just make his character more interesting.
Unfortunately, I dislike most of Light's expressions, except this one!
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6726/vlcsnap57944my1.th.png (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap57944my1.png)
Those who read both the fan scanlations and the official manga, or those who read somebody on LJ's analysis (like me), already know that the statement
NO MATTER WHAT, I WILL FIND YOU AND DO AWAY WITH YOU!
is inferior to
I WILL HUNT YOU DOWN AND DESTROY YOU!
But that scene was still very enjoyable. :p
Unrelatedly,
He does indeed look crazy in the anime. But in the manga, which is what you must be referencing if you're saying how he changes in the future, maybe you haven't noticed, but he is not nearly as psychotic as he's been depicted in these episodes. Evil, but not psychotic.
There was a lot more ambiguity between the characters until the final chapters, in which Ohba decisively discredits Light as a madman before killing him off. Since then, I think when people try to think of the series as a whole, they reinterpret everything that's happened in the context of Light's final breakdown.
If Misa had gone crazy and killed Takada with a serrated knife then we'd all be saying how she's psychotically obsessed with Light, rather than just most people having the opinion "she's dumb and thinks she's in love because even her emotions are dumb, she always overdoes it". Her threat to kill anyone Light dated in the earlier chapters isn't often mentioned, but it would gain new meaning in the context of that, I'm sure.
People would be upset if that face of Misa came out of the blue, of course, just like people were upset when Light went from just quiet expressions of malice with a sinister expression on his face (with the occasional sinister laugh--in other words, just a little bit like the stereotypical evildoer) to the spiteful nutcase who hallucinated his circumstances when we all expected him to reveal to us his greatest surprise.
And on a more important note. Assuming you're saying he's going crazy outside of spoiler tags. Maybe you saw somebody else say that Light goes crazy slowly and decided that it was okay to say he goes crazy slowly yourself. If not, however, you should realize that it's spoiling how Light's character develops.
Sure, the anime makes it seem like he's already a bit insane at this point, but still, you're all being awfully fatalistic about his character's future. If I wasn't already very interested in Death Note, I might read someone say he goes crazy slowly and think to myself, "Okay, that's been done before. What a boring and cliched character progression." I'm sure there are some people who may be interested in this anime for more than just the shounen animes, and that kind of spoiler can be more important than others (Hey, you know how the movie Titantic ends?).
But since everyone's already doing it and the fact that people assume they can say it shows that it's hopeless to try to make people think it's a spoiler, so I'm just going on the record saying I hope everybody who hasn't read the manga is only watching DN for the action/plot and not the characters, and so won't care. That, or I hope that they for some reason enjoy that "knowledge" (I quote that because I'm not really sure it's true that he goes crazy slowly, it's more of an all-at-once type of deal) and look forward to DN because of it rather than shying away from DN because of it.
Light isn't "going" crazy, Light is crazy. He's a sociopath.
He's just very good at hiding it unless he's completely thrown for a loop, which is rarely.
Bon_Clay
2006-10-12, 23:49
Another great episode. The best part is L owning Light. The music really fit the situation very well. Yamaguchi Kappei really plays L well. He sounds different than what I had expected. I was thinking L will have the sound of Kido Shinichi, but it is very different. Never feel L is so cool before!!! Oh, and Light shows some signs of madness when L owns him. He lost his 'innocence' way too fast.
I don't think that is madness ! just he doesn't like being outwitted !
I like the episodes so far they are great ! animations are nicely drawn
Oh. My...
I'm left blown away - despite having read the manga, I'm amazed that this arc never fails to impress me - the mind games, the psychological thrills, the twists and turns. It's amazing.
Deathkillz
2006-10-13, 01:05
omg how owned can Light be? :p
L completely crushed Light by taunting him to "kill me! kill me!" she was completely fuming not being able to kill L yet :heh:
again the tension and suspense can be felt which is perfectly translated from the manga to the anime ^__^
looking forward to the next ep ;)
Whoa ep 2 has shown me the true promise of this series! I cant wait for the battle of wits to unravel!
NoSanninWa
2006-10-13, 03:22
As clever as L was, the trap he set was one that only a megalomaniac would have stepped into. In order to avoid that trap, all Light had to do was to stick to his principles. Light has said that he only intends to kill criminals. While L was challenging him, L was clearly not a criminal or a villian of any stripe. Light decided to kill L solely because L dared to challenge him.
Of course it wouldn't be out of line for L to assume that Kira was a paranoid megalomaniac or psychopath of similar stripe who would kill anyone who came before him. Such a pathology is common amongst serial killers and L might be starting with the theory that Kira is a serial killer. That doesn't change the fact that there was absolutely NO reason for Light to try to kill L except for the gratification of his own ego. This, more than anything, proves that Light is having serious problems with his sanity. I would expect better from someone as capable as Light if he was actually sane.
Ep 2
You are right, NoSanninWa.
IMO, Light has made the first of two deadly mistakes: Losing composure and killing a person just because he "opposed him" by accusing Light of being "evil".
For me, this was a major disappointement in Light's character. Just a while ago he was caculating and taking measures to ensure his safety, and now he simply snaps and makes a move without consideration at all. But I still love Light, his mind just amazes me.
And I agree with the rest, the last scene between L and Light was pure magnifiscent. This is just the beginning!
Also, I really hope that people didn't get bored when Light was explaining his (awesome) trick of the drawer. And when L was explaining how he found Kira. We'll see more of these lengthy talks and I think they're so cool.
I really like Death Note.
Nightengale
2006-10-13, 05:06
It can be looked upon that Light was too absorbed in the vanity of his newly obtained power and his newly growing image as a God (( he reads a forum dedicated to him )) and frankly, it probably caught him off-guard in the most absurd manner. And it really makes sense. The Death Note is neccesary as vital prove of murder, and since technically anyone above 5 living in a decent world has access to all the criminal's names neccesary for murder, the plausible list not taking into account work by major secret organizations, rakes up to billions. But alas, L took advantage of a small error Light conducted back when he was just a curious innocent kid, and poof, narrowed down to Kanto, out of everywhere in the world. Class act.
Back when I was reading the manga, I still had positive impressions of Light when he talked about his murders until of course....the last page when he started talking about attention to his powah and becoming a God. I knew then that he was already absorbed and shackled into his own sense of vanity and god-complex.
Sorrow-K
2006-10-13, 05:22
It is a bit of an odd character inconsistency that Light would just snap at a few measly words, thus exposing himself... but it's a plot device. If we didn't have it, it wouldn't set up what will inevitably be the obvious focus of this series: the conflict between Light and L.
And it looks like it's going to be a seriously interesting one. Both characters seem to be on a similar intellectual plane as proved by events in this episode which will make the cat-and-mouse chase to come fascinating to follow. The set up is there for a great plot with lots of twists, and I'm starting to see quite clearly why this was so popular as a manga. The atmosphere is nearly spot on as well, still. Some of the music in this ep was outstanding.
Interesting stuff. Two eps of introduction did their job, ie of intriguing me.
Seriously, tho, Sayu voice...in the manga she gave the impression...no, she literally brimmed with "genkiness" and "quirkiness". Not so here.
Also, the thing i didnt understand neither in manga or anime - what did Light do with the campfire ?
Nightengale
2006-10-13, 06:27
Also, the thing i didnt understand neither in manga or anime - what did Light do with the campfire ?
It wasn't campfire...Light was experimenting with the flame ignition system he used to safe-guard his DN under his drawer.
Light: "Which is worse, having a small fire in the house or getting the death penalty?"
It seems weird for Light to say that BEFORE L announced that he will get the death penalty if caught. It's a minor change from the manga but kinda bothered me a little.
juri_miki
2006-10-13, 08:17
L might be starting with the theory that Kira is a serial killer.
Well Kira, in episode 2, is known, to have killed 100+ criminals all utilizing similar methods. IRL he would've been considered a serial killer as well.
That doesn't change the fact that there was absolutely NO reason for Light to try to kill L except for the gratification of his own ego. This, more than anything, proves that Light is having serious problems with his sanity. I would expect better from someone as capable as Light if he was actually sane.
Well think about it from the first episode. Light wants to become GOD. Anyone who dreams of being GOD has got HUGE ego and megalomania issues. Him killing Lind L. Taylor because L was standing up to him is not OOC or weird. This is the kind of person that he is. The fact that Light can even justify what he's doing with "I'm not bad. I'm a straight A student" is already crazy in itself. Light can't comprehend that he's no better than those he kills. He thinks that he's better than all of them and can't even be put on the same level, even though, in reality, he's worse b/c he's committing a mass genocide.
He already considers himself GOD and so he believes that anyone else who opposes him is going against God, therefore they are wrong.
Well think about it from the first episode. Light wants to become GOD. Anyone who dreams of being GOD has got HUGE ego and megalomania issues. Him killing Lind L. Taylor because L was standing up to him is not OOC or weird. This is the kind of person that he is.
Yes, Light is considering himself as a God, and everyone who opposes him should be banished. But, IMHO, what differs Light from an ego maniac is his outstanding intelligence (and mentality), don't you think he should've waited for a moment and thought of what to do just like he does in every other sitiuation?
I'm convinced of what Nightengale said: It can be looked upon that Light was too absorbed in the vanity of his newly obtained power and his newly growing image as a God (( he reads a forum dedicated to him )) and frankly, it probably caught him off-guard in the most absurd manner. and what Sorrow-K said: a plot device. BTW, I'm glad you're intriguied by Death Note. I promise you that you won't be disappointed at all. :D
About Sayu... I think her VA was all right (really? That's Hagu??). The VA who I have problem with is... Ryuk. Did they change him or something? He sounded "squeaky" and silly. :heh:
It is a bit of an odd character inconsistency that Light would just snap at a few measly words, thus exposing himself... but it's a plot device. If we didn't have it, it wouldn't set up what will inevitably be the obvious focus of this series: the conflict between Light and L.
Well think about it from the first episode. Light wants to become GOD. Anyone who dreams of being GOD has got HUGE ego and megalomania issues. Him killing Lind L. Taylor because L was standing up to him is not OOC or weird. This is the kind of person that he is. The fact that Light can even justify what he's doing with "I'm not bad. I'm a straight A student" is already crazy in itself. Light can't comprehend that he's no better than those he kills. He thinks that he's better than all of them and can't even be put on the same level, even though, in reality, he's worse b/c he's committing a mass genocide.
He already considers himself GOD and so he believes that anyone else who opposes him is going against God, therefore they are wrong.
I think that's pretty much what it is. Kira/Light believes himself to be a God now, basically he is the law/justice. For someone like L to come out and label him evil....well, that's high treason is it not? =p You could kind of tell that that was the major thing that pushed Light to try and kill L with the Death Note...without that, he might have kept his cool. But, he fell victim to L's taunting...something that could be considered a plot device to keep the story moving.
But, Light did kind of get his wish. When he wrote down Lind L. Tailor's name, he said something along the lines of if L were smarter, it could've been interesting. Well, L won that battle of wits, so Light's got some interesting times ahead of him.
No, I think it was perfectly in character for Light to make that mistake.
Up until this point, no one has been able to stand against him. He has begun thinking he is a god. Even in his obsessive attempt to hide the Death Note, he doesn't seem to think that anyone will be actually actively searching for it. It's a nebulous "what if" measure, more to prevent someone from seeing the Shinigami.
Since he knows nothing about L, he has no reason to be cautious. Furthermore, as a "god", he would want to show the entire world what would happen when you stand against him and "blaspheme" by calling him and his motivations evil. He assumes the Death Note is untraceable and that no one has a clue how these killings work. He assumes that this murder really will look like an "act of god".
What was especially brilliant about that scene is that L turns it around. A real god wouldn't have made such an error in underestimating a detective, and if he did, a real god would have been able to also strike L down the moment he started his taunts. Basically, he proved on television that Light is a glorified serial killer, not an avenging angel. I love it.
evil-samurai
2006-10-13, 10:00
Also, I really hope that people didn't get bored when Light was explaining his (awesome) trick of the drawer. And when L was explaining how he found Kira. We'll see more of these lengthy talks and I think they're so cool.
Get bored? No way :D Those were two of the best moments in the episode.. though the part with how L tricked Light was the best.
I really like Death Note.Same here! So far everthing! is pulling me into the show :D I've heared some complaints about the manga but so far nothing is wrong. I'd say one aspect I really love about the show is the way Ryuk is portrayed. In any other show I'd think he'd be evil or have some big intentions but it seems at least at the moment he just loves watching things play out =)
The act of murder is necessarily emotional. When have we ever seen Light killing emotionlessly, actually? What we should attend to is his standard for killing. He has already said that the rotten are who he's after, which is includes evil people as well as the immoral and useless (I interpret useless to mean people whose are not directly evil or immoral but who could not be made to live in the new world, by the way). As has been said, those who oppose the justice of the god of the new world are evil, so Light isn't betraying his principles in that murder. Just because he's emotional about it doesn't mean emotion is the deciding factor for him on whether or not someone should be killed.
I'm surprise that people are choosing to interpret Light's statement that he will be a "God of the new world" as literal. I thought it was pretty clear that he was drawing reference to the concept of God as the moral authority who judges and punishes the evil/sinful. Well, interpret it however. :cool:
Okay, a correction: "The act of murder is necessarily emotional for someone with Light's character."
The act of murder is necessarily emotional.
This statement have been false since the invention of the spear.
it was pretty clear that he was drawing reference to the concept of God as the moral authority who judges and punishes the evil/sinful.
Well put.
I'm surprise that people are choosing to interpret Light's statement that he will be a "God of the new world" as literal.
I'm not interpreting it as entirely literal, I'm using similar terminology as Light. He is the one bringing up "god" instead of "arbitrator of morality". Of course, "god" does sound cooler, and is more in line with what Light really wants. :p
He doesn't just want to make the world a better place, he wants adoration for it. Those websites feed his already bloated ego. In that respect he does want to become a "god", because he wants recognition for his efforts and he wants to be worshipped, to be prayed to as a savior. He wants to be noticed and lauded; he told us this himself.
Basically, to clarify, Light is at the point where he believes everything he does is just. Killing someone to make an example of them isn't something that is OOC. Hell, the guy just got done talking about having to kill his family--who are also innocent--if they happen to touch the death note. Anyone that even attempts to get in the way--whether it is by calling him evil or actually trying to hunt him down--of his attempt to purge the world also deserve to die, even if they haven't done anything wrong, in other words.
The death of "L" was supposed to be an example for others, and instead it backfired big time.
What was especially brilliant about that scene is that L turns it around. A real god wouldn't have made such an error in underestimating a detective, and if he did, a real god would have been able to also strike L down the moment he started his taunts. Basically, he proved on television that Light is a glorified serial killer, not an avenging angel. I love it.
I still have a problem with this line of reasoning. Lind L. Taylor is still a criminal lined up for execution, while L isn't. L still jumped to such a conclusion, despite the fact that it could really be an "avenging angel" who struck down Taylor because he was scheduled to die but didn't (instead, being given some sort of deal to act as L and possibly get away with it), and didn't kill L because he really wasn't a criminal.
I still have a problem with this line of reasoning. Lind L. Taylor is still a criminal lined up for execution, while L isn't. L still jumped to such a conclusion, despite the fact that it could really be an "avenging angel" who struck down Taylor because he was scheduled to die but didn't (instead, being given some sort of deal to act as L and possibly get away with it), and didn't kill L because he really wasn't a criminal.
Hm, I think you misintrepreted me a litttle bit. L is already convinced that Kira is human, so he's not going to see Lind's death as "vengence" no matter what happens.
Rather, it was a show for the general viewing population. Light wanted his actions to be seen as an "act of god" to the people watching, it was to show what could happen when people to try to go against Kira. L then deliberately taunted "Kira", showing that unlike what happened previously, "Kira" couldn't do anything to stop him. (Notice how everyone was all "OMG, he's gonna die!")
You're right, though. There is a hole there, and that's L mentioning that Lind was a criminal. However, I chalk that up to the fact that author didn't want L to come across as someone that would grab a random person and force them to die out of curiosity. L is a pretty dark character himself, but the point is to set him up as someone more lawful than Kira...
EDIT: Upon more reflection. I think it still works because Kira didn't kill him immediately when Lind came up on stage. Rather he only did it after Lind called him evil. Surely someone who knew Lind was a criminal would have killed him upon sight instead of listening to what he had to say, especially if you know it's false.
Rather, it was a show for the general viewing population.
So, basically, L broadcasted a live snuff video and got away with it. LOL.
Deathkillz
2006-10-13, 12:08
Raito's sis is cute <_<
you arent alone :D seen soo many fanpics of her already good and bad :heh:
So, basically, L broadcasted a live snuff video and got away with it. LOL.
No, "L" was baiting Kira. Kira made a snuff video as a warning not to bait him further. :p
NoSanninWa
2006-10-13, 13:06
I've heared some complaints about the manga but so far nothing is wrong
This isn't the part of the manga that is commonly complained about. Those people who complained about the manga probably loved this and agree that nothing is wrong.
OverFunk
2006-10-13, 13:41
One small and irrelevant detail I just noticed:
The names that appeared in the cards on the ICPO meeting were names of football players. I saw Pablo Aimar, Martin Petrov, Niko Kovac, Edwin Van Der Sar, Adrian Mutu, Jan Koller, Andriy Shevchenko, Dario Simic, among others.
Loved the episode, by the way.
Instead of being someone who kills whoever gets in his way, I've always had the impression that Light didn't want to kill his family. To him, to succeed in making the world a "better place", some casualties or sacrifices had to be made. So to him, the ends justifies the means, and he is not afraid of making sacrifices (even if they are his family or himself) nor sway from his goal when facing tough decisions for the "greater good of mankind".
Taking out L.Taylor, from Kira's view might have been the least damaging option he had after L.Taylor said things that "harmed the image of Kira" - that Kira is a murderer and not the "hand of justice". If Kira let him continue saying things that "harm Kira's image", he would have a harder time gaining support from the public...since he believes the public only supports him secretly, the public would definitely not openly support him as a murderer as opposed to a saviour. So he thought the best solution was to just take L.Taylor out and minimize the damage. Although, in the anime, it does look like he snapped...
It's not a matter of whether he wants to kill his family or not. If he wanted them dead, he could have done it when he first got the notebook. However, he sees them as completely expendable to his cause. I mean, you just have to listen to the way he talks. It's like, "Oh, yeah, it'd kinda suck if I had to kill them." Creeepy.
I still have a problem with this line of reasoning. Lind L. Taylor is still a criminal lined up for execution, while L isn't. L still jumped to such a conclusion, despite the fact that it could really be an "avenging angel" who struck down Taylor because he was scheduled to die but didn't (instead, being given some sort of deal to act as L and possibly get away with it), and didn't kill L because he really wasn't a criminal.
Very sharp of you. In just a chapter or two from here, L is seen pondering this exact same thing, but like musouka said, L has already determined Kira is human and unjust, so it's only a brief consideration.Rather, it was a show for the general viewing population.
That was the intent. Of course, L ended up putting on his own show. At the start it was obviously already a show for the general population, since Lind L. Tailor was just ranting against Kira pointlessly, anyway. Not to say that L might have done it differently if it didn't also serve the purpose of showing the world and more importantly reassuring the ICPO that someone was on the job, since he clearly doesn't see Kira as enough of a threat to avoid saying he knows where Kira is (that is, L thinks knowledge of what he knows isn't enough for Kira to escape him, because L is confident there's no way he won't win).
ZeusIrae
2006-10-13, 17:53
I have a real problem with the anime version of Light.
He act too much like a psychopath,what made Light intresting was his ability to analyse everything rationnaly.He didn't act like a maniac,he becomes "evil" to quickly in the anime,IMO.He laughs to much and his expressions look too twisted. :(
Is it just me, or has the anime already shown a much more darker side to what the manga could have ever shown? I believe it has to do with the musical score - that part alone is showing just how dark the main plot story is, the manga for me made it seem a lil' childish.. though, the whole Shounen Jump part of the manga does come to mind.
Anyway, second episode to me from start to finish had a good grip on me.. yet again, the music plays a great part in all of that. :3
Is it just me, or has the anime already shown a much more darker side to what the manga could have ever shown? I believe it has to do with the musical score - that part alone is showing just how dark the main plot story is, the manga for me made it seem a lil' childish.. though, the whole Shounen Jump part of the manga does come to mind.
Anyway, second episode to me from start to finish had a good grip on me.. yet again, the music plays a great part in all of that. :3
Aye, I agree wiht you 100% the music score played a very good part on it, THis Chapter gave me goosebump on the showdown between L and Light...Man, this series will only get Better as time passes. :)
Cooldude
2006-10-14, 05:27
Is it just me or Light's voice actor totally doesn't suit Light's character?
Makes him sound too kiddy. While I thought L's voice would've suited Light better but doesn't really suit L. L's personality is kinda strange, the voice atm makes him sound too good and normal
L provoked Kira and got a reaction, and able to prove that the heart attacks were murders, Kira's in Kanto and also a couple of different things about Kira that you'll find out in later episodes. Quite ingenious it was
Deathkillz
2006-10-14, 06:15
maybe its cause light is a kid? :rolleyes:
no seriously i think the voice fits...light's voice is fitting of a soon to be psycopathic genius :heh:
Heh, I *still* couldn't stop hearing Tamaki in the first part of the show, but I got over it.
I wasn't too pleased with the part that had the Interpol meeting because just like most Big Shot meetings depicted in anime, they look way too disorganised and emotional than they should be... I mean, would they really say something as harsh as "BAKA!" over something like this when it's not even as imminent and obvious as, say, some random country declaring nuclear war and really exploding a nuclear bomb on a remote island just to prove it? But hey, I can't really expect much better and I don't think it was the intention of the show/directors to make it that beliveable or realistic, so it's acceptable...
It's very amusing that Watari's seiyuu is none other than Kiyoshi Kobayashi - the voice actor of Daisuke Jigen in Lupin III. For those who don't know, that character in Lupin III is a detective who is forever trying to catch the main character of the show, Lupin the Third, a big-time thief (if you can call him that). And here we have Watari who's on the side of L, who you could call a detective as well. :)
I loved seeing L's wonderful trap for Light, anyway. NoSanninWa really nailed it there by saying that it would have worked only if Light had those psychopathic tendencies and was truly unafraid of being caught. L designed the trap in a way where he could find out many things at one time - not just clues as to how Light could cause the death of these people, but a narrowing-down of his location, the way he gets the information of the people he wants to kill, and even a tentative indication as to his personality.
Bit late, but just saw the second episode and I just have to say it was really well done. After finishing Death Note manga, my interest for it pretty much died away but watching L take advantage of Light for just that moment made everything come back to me. The end of the episode was quite godly. A pat on the back for the director for the brilliant music arrangement.
It's very amusing that Watari's seiyuu is none other than Kiyoshi Kobayashi - the voice actor of Daisuke Jigen in Lupin III. For those who don't know, that character in Lupin III is a detective who is forever trying to catch the main character of the show, Lupin the Third, a big-time thief (if you can call him that).
Actually, Jigen is one of Lupin's cohorts. Zenigata is the detective that always chases after Lupin.
The Interpol part was pure cheese, but as you said, I don't really expect anything realistic. I mean, this is an anime where you can kill people by writing their names down in a notebook and allow people to die on live television. :p
Oh shit. Trust me to mix up the two. orz. That was a stupid mistake :P Well, I guess you could say that they're the opposite now...
Kinny Riddle
2006-10-14, 12:29
One small and irrelevant detail I just noticed:
The names that appeared in the cards on the ICPO meeting were names of football players. I saw Pablo Aimar, Martin Petrov, Niko Kovac, Edwin Van Der Sar, Adrian Mutu, Jan Koller, Andriy Shevchenko, Dario Simic, among others.
Loved the episode, by the way.
Now that you mention it, I thought I saw Benayoun's name, who plays in West Ham, as well. I've gotta slowly re-watch that part again. Those guys at Madhouse studio have definitely been playing too many Winning Eleven (that's Pro Evolution Soccer for you guys in Europe). :heh:
Anyway, the L and Light confrontation was one of the best in the manga, and Madhouse did not disappoint in bringing it to the screen. The score was excellent, Yamaguchi Kappei was impressive as L, I've only heard him do more "brash" young men like Ranma and Inuyasha etc.
monstert
2006-10-15, 00:02
The first episode was a bit boring, but this episode has raised my interest considerably. Ryuk was right, they're quite amusing.
P.S. So the word "kira" means killer or is it just a play on the sound?
I'm speechless and left with a smile on my face.
Yamaguchi Kappei left his mark as L's voice highly skillfully. This performance proves that the man can do remarkable voice acting on other serious roles and not just for family TV shows.
Episode one was the appetitizer: Light/Kira testing his newfound powers that have been granted by the DEATH NOTE, but at the long run proved his undoing.
From episode two until the end the main course is served: Enter L. Light/Kira never imagined to have an equally cunning, prodigious mind to match him. Light simply fell for L's ruse and bite the bait.
L's scrutinous logic and deductive sense accomplished to narrow down Kira's whereabouts to start the manhunt, which in turn earned him the desired result on his prey: Light as Kira has exposed his existence which messed on how smoothly his plan was reveling. Panic overcomed him first, feeling helplessly cornered, but afterwards acceptance followed and got his grip back to accept the challenge.
L understands he has stepped on Kira's grip as well.
The plot device is resumed to a cat and mouse chase for both Light and Kira to exposed each other nemesis's identity, bringing a battle of cunning and wits against time.
I can't help to stop pondering the so hotly discussed debate brought by L whether is right or not to kill people based on their deeds.
The world's not perfect, but Light snapped long ago, though never went public about it, that after all the world is black and white. But couldn't help it just to watch the same mess happening everyday, until the Death Note came to him.
Despite his introverted and possible hikikomori nature, L's of the criteria inclined to uphold that the world's on different shades of grey.
I think that DEATH NOTE focuses on comparing those two perceptions we judge the mundane against each other: a fine line separating the black-&-white against the grey tone.
Hypothetically speaking, what if L could access a Death Note?; if he does, wouldn't he become of the same opinion as Light/Kira?
Light made Ryuk a point about human nature. That we mostly hold a facade on the outside to supress our passionate thoughts in order to function politically correct on society, however, privately we voice where our true opinions lie and given a medium to protect ourselves anonymously we let them out to others.
But at the same time, this very same nature is juxtaposed with morals or belief systems which the family first and then society later indoctrinate us to shape our living standards.
Many of us would uphold to those morals while many others would just tossed them aside.
L's on the side that morals should come from a collective judgement and group of decisions from the group and community.
Light's on the other side that morals should be applied from individual judgement based on the personal view on how we perceive the rest of the world.
Any case, I'm glad that DEATH NOTE only makes use of the supernatural elements to deliver logic grounds on the murders to give believable murder-mystery drama and authentic feel of the detective story.
If the anime is following on the manga's footsteps a close step at the time, then the Shinigami will remain out of the picture and just staying as audience.
Despite his appearance, Ryuk exerts a collected but cool demeanor and to me seems that he's the only levelheaded character with enough common sense to understand that both parties are engaging on deep f**k or making things go from bad to worse.
Shidou Nakamura breaths life to the Shinigami character to the point that Ryuk feels just like your average person.
P.S. So the word "kira" means killer or is it just a play on the sound?
Light commented on that in the episode. 'Kira' was basically taken from the word 'killer' since it sounds somewhat alike (so, as you said, it's a play on the sound of the word 'killer')
monstert
2006-10-15, 00:12
Thanks for the quick reply, I didn't want to guess from Light's words.
ghostface
2006-10-15, 11:05
This was a great follow-up to the first episode! I hope the rest of the series will be as good.
Definitely, the L vs Kira showdown was the highlight of this ep. Though in the movie version that scene was done slightly better IMO. I agree with some people before me who said Light is acting too much like a maniac in the anime.
In the movie they added an extra shade of cool to this scene with Light looking almost bored after having killed off Lind L. Tailor so easily. No triumphant comments, no hysteric laughter. He just turns his back to the TV and there's nothing happening for a long while, until suddenly, L's filtered voice can be heard. You can't see Light's face at that moment as he is not turning around yet, but you can almost feel the chills running down his spine! He looks over his shoulder slowly and you're wetting your pants with him, because you know that something very bad has just happened. Brilliant!
I didn't identify with Light that much in the anime version. His manic overconfidence got on my nerves actually. But the anime team have done a pretty good job too, especially in their use of music to set up the mood of this scene. I also like Light's reaction when the first shock is over. One moment he's been had like a kid, the next he's up for the challenge and seems more dangerous than ever. Things are getting exciting!!
L is even more sociopathic than Kira
That's the best thing about Death Note. The protagonist is evil and the good guys may be called eccentric at best.
hottyHotty
2006-10-15, 19:38
LIGHT.....................THAT IDIOT
Didnt he see that that "L" guy was trying 2 call him out?
He's such a dumbass y would he kill someone on national TV like that?:frustrated:
Now they Know he's in JAPAN!!!
But the thing is, how would they connect the murders 2 him?
Will it all b revealed??????
LOL
:stupid:
Sinestra
2006-10-15, 19:55
WOW what a kick ass episode. IT seem like light has found him self on his level or maybe even above to tangle with. THis series just stepped it up a notch i cant wait for more im practically drooling for more. Also i just think its a little fucked up to go through that much trouble to booby trap your drawer. I mean take percautions but damn. It just goes to show how Light thinks way ahead of normal people.
CarpeDiem
2006-10-15, 21:22
Also i just think its a little fucked up to go through that much trouble to booby trap your drawer. I mean take percautions but damn. It just goes to show how Light thinks way ahead of normal people.
Maybe, but keep in mind what kind of dangerous situation he'd be in if a normal person made contact with his Death Note. It'd be quite a mess. If it was his family who discovered it, Light may have to kill them (like he said) in order to maintain his cover. Since this is obviously not a favorable scenario for anyone, he decided to take the extra step as opposed to risking the most unfortunate alternative. But that was quite a brilliant booby trap.
juri_miki
2006-10-16, 07:42
Yes, Light is considering himself as a God, and everyone who opposes him should be banished. But, IMHO, what differs Light from an ego maniac is his outstanding intelligence (and mentality), don't you think he should've waited for a moment and thought of what to do just like he does in every other sitiuation?
Not if his wish to be GOD overpowers all. Light is using his super intelligence and analytical skills to become GOD. That is his MAIN goal. His main goal isn't to be super intelligent and analytical. He's using his skills to reach his main objective. Someone challenged him, on national tv in an attempt to look stupid and his emotions got in the way because he's so incredibly insecure. While he may be something of a genius and able to figure people out, he is still, supposed to be, human.
Volume 4 of the manga was a good example of that when Light went crazy when L revealed himself to Light.
End o manga spoiler
Or even in the last chapters. W/o the notebook Light just looked like a lunatic, because he is.
I'm convinced of what Nightengale said: and what Sorrow-K said: a plot device. BTW, I'm glad you're intriguied by Death Note. I promise you that you won't be disappointed at all. :D
I don't know if I can agree with that. Especially when all of Light's actions were a follow-up after that incident. That was, definitely, in L's character to do something like. Especially when he's just as bad as Light.
I'm from the minority camp that thinks L's voice doesnt really fits his appearance >.< .. His cool, yes, but somehow the voice just didnt seem to fit him >.<
Still giving a 10 :p
Sinestra
2006-10-16, 18:20
Light is very brillant but he is very quickly falling in the trap of his own ego. with the power he possess it wasy for anyone to think their GOD i mean to have power over life and death that is one of the ultimate powers a human can obatain. However his god complex can very eaisly lead to his downfall.
mantidor
2006-10-16, 18:26
I love it. Cant wait to see more though I read most of the manga, which is something that makes me wonder if I should finish the manga first or if I should wait for the animated series to finish it for me... I think I read it doesn't cover the whole manga, is that correct?
I love it. Cant wait to see more though I read most of the manga, which is something that makes me wonder if I should finish the manga first or if I should wait for the animated series to finish it for me... I think I read it doesn't cover the whole manga, is that correct?
There's yet to be any concrete information that supports or quashes that theory. The series should span 37 episodes, that's about everything that's been confirmed, or even close to confirmed. Some people think that can really only cover the first half or so of the manga (at least up until the turning point), which is a valid opinion, but no one knows anything for sure yet.
mantidor
2006-10-16, 22:32
oh, is the turning point
when Light looses all his memories because L has cornered him?
Because I read the manga up to that part.
Nightengale
2006-10-16, 22:39
oh, is the turning point
when Light looses all his memories because L has cornered him?
Because I read the manga up to that part.
No. And I suggest you don't pry further. It's for your own good.
Your assumed turning point has NOTHING on the real turning point.
What Nightengale said. The only extra hint that I'll give, that I don't think should spoil things too much, is...
that it happens after what you mentioned.
I don't know why I put that in a spoiler tag, since you should've been able to figure that out based on what Nightengale said...I'm so paranoid, lol. :heh:
Darklightz
2006-10-16, 23:16
Light is very brillant but he is very quickly falling in the trap of his own ego. with the power he possess it wasy for anyone to think their GOD i mean to have power over life and death that is one of the ultimate powers a human can obatain. However his god complex can very eaisly lead to his downfall.
Very true.You can see how easily provoked he is and how he takes everything personally from the way he writes Lind L Taylor's name in giant letters and sideways in his death notes,compared to all the other names wich have been written meticulously
mantidor
2006-10-16, 23:17
haha, with this story, spoilers can really ruin everything, so paranoia is ok ;)
Well, Ill wait to see the anime, hopefully it will cover all the manga. This episode was great, lets hope they keep the detailed explanations, is what I loved the most of the manga.
Deathkillz
2006-10-17, 11:42
LIGHT.....................THAT IDIOT
Didnt he see that that "L" guy was trying 2 call him out?
He's such a dumbass y would he kill someone on national TV like that?:frustrated:
Now they Know he's in JAPAN!!!
But the thing is, how would they connect the murders 2 him?
Will it all b revealed??????
LOL
:stupid:
well ofc it will be revealed...just give it time :p
and tbh i dnt think that light is a dumb ass but just someone who cnt hold in his emotions :heh: j/k
he got pissed off by the fake L and didnt think ahead that it could have been at trap...
Sinestra
2006-10-17, 16:23
Very true.You can see how easily provoked he is and how he takes everything personally from the way he writes Lind L Taylor's name in giant letters and sideways in his death notes,compared to all the other names wich have been written meticulously
Good point indeed he seems very easily provoked that kind of emotional response could cause him to make a mistake. In a game where you adversery is just as or maybe even smarter than you one can not affored to let their emotions cloud their thinking. I really think the first one to make a mistake in this is the loser and by loser i mean dead
Kisuke06
2006-10-17, 17:25
Wow, very good episode. Light is a smart guy, but so is L, that little trap was very good. :heh:
Light vs. L is going to be an interesting battle.:)
Scribble
2006-10-19, 11:15
Haha, it's kind of satisfying knowing what the DN newbies are in for.
I think that DN "newbies" should avoid these episode discussion threads, since someone somewhere will inevitably drop subtle hints about some of the biggest spoilers in the series, and start talking about future manga events.
That's what happened to me in the Kanon thread. It's so annoying =(
^_Usagi_^
2006-10-27, 17:18
I really think this show should have been left as manga. Anime gives a lot away (voices, images - they basically showed possible L! come on ~_~)
i used to love to read all the conclusion & "riddle" solving. Totally different feeling from the epis so far. still not that bad
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