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DjDeluxay
2003-12-29, 05:15
anyone know how many chapters there are on this? Which magazine? When will it be on anime?
anyone know how many chapters there are on this? Which magazine? When will it be on anime?
It is currently serialized on Shounen Magazine. How many chapters - ask CLAMP. When will it be on anime - ask Madhouse.
hanYOUkai_sora
2004-12-19, 16:29
Is Tsubasa a good series so far?
hanYOUkai_sora
2004-12-19, 17:24
The manga has 21 chapters and is out on three books. It's supposedly gonna come out on anime around April '05.
haunterex
2004-12-19, 18:36
currently, the latest raw scans i can find is chapter 65.
Omniscient
2004-12-19, 18:44
Del Ray is up to Volume 3 currently, scanlations are up to Chapter 53 (halfway through Volume 8).
Aoie_Emesai
2004-12-19, 20:13
Can you tell me the sites where you found them, PM me if you please.
Every other place i've tried, the links were either dead or not working anymore. ^_^
hanYOUkai_sora
2004-12-20, 00:32
Quoted from Anime new network (http://animenewsnetwork.com) Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles Anime (2004-11-20 13:30:30)
According to an announcement in the latest Shonen Weekly Magazine, a new anime based on CLAMP's Tsubasa is currently being planned. This confirms information released by Del Rey earlier this month. However Del Rey refers to the new anime as a TV series due in 2005, and Shonen Weekly says the new anime will be "in theatres" in 2005. Thanks to Tricianna for the scan.
Aoie_Emesai
2004-12-20, 20:56
That's nice, hopefully they improve the drawing a bit. Seems that they decided to take a break from drawing Chobits like. Though Chobits's drawing isn't like any of their other works right? Seem like that rushed through Tsubasa a bit.
hanYOUkai_sora
2004-12-23, 20:08
But still has a great storyline....I think....but ya. It does seem rushed.
who watch the tsubasa anime.... man they skip a lot...but at least the came out the 2nd season finally...i have been waitting for a long time...
camathalion
2006-05-13, 13:48
wat is the series about?
can someone plz give me a summary of it?
please
x_Kotori_x
2006-05-13, 15:25
I have about 3 or 4 of the manga and i have seen 2 episodes. I plan on wathing all of it soon...after 100 more episodes of Tsubasa ~~;
I've read up to Volume 13 now. Volume 13 was really sad. But it's probably the second most beautiful chapter ever for the outfits and hairstyles (the first was the Ashura arc of course). It sucks that we have to wait for Volume 14 to be scanlated and the Del Rey manga is still not that far ahead. :(
At least Del Ray have each volume being released in a 2 month period, thats very good compared to a lot of manga.
CH 123 question
any1 know what happened to syaorans clone? did he go berserk because the seal in his eye broke? is the real syaoran the good guy now? he said something like ill kill the clone if he goes rampant. damn so much happened.
SailorYue
2006-07-31, 05:11
CH 123 question
any1 know what happened to syaorans clone? did he go berserk because the seal in his eye broke? is the real syaoran the good guy now? he said something like ill kill the clone if he goes rampant. damn so much happened.
well he's good. tho we'll find out more in the next ch, if kuro doesnt kill him...
brain melting spoiler for ch 124: http://su-chan.livejournal.com/91781.html?thread=1062021#t1062021 <--read at your own risk O_O :eyespin:
So I don't get the whole idea about Syaoran and his clone. Someone explain from scratch for me?
SailorYue
2006-08-01, 18:17
So I don't get the whole idea about Syaoran and his clone. Someone explain from scratch for me?
o explain things in short: FWR created a clone of A syaoran, decendant of clow reed, there for posessing clow's magic in his blood. he wanted a clone to collect the feathers of sakura, who is a daughtr of a different clow reed. the REAL syao, wanting the clone to have feelings for sakura, gave the clone his left eye and a part of his heart. FWR didnt like that so he sealed up the real syao. now, all those times we've thought that the real syao (formaly YIN) was possesing OUR syao, it turns out, that it was actualy the clone's original perona. just an atomotan sent to collect feathers. the real syao had awakened at one point, which started a crack on the seal on OUR syao. slowly the real syao wasa regaining his heart. once the real syao broke his seal, he needed to get to his clone knowing that the seal was breaking. Xing Hou (SP) (who aparently is ALSO a creation. ) betrayed FWR and sent the real one to yuuko. Yuuko knowing who it was sent the real to his clone. now, back in tokyo, after kamui bloodied up OUR syao, the clone took over COMPLETLY. Fai (who knew the WHOLE TIME that syao wasnt real (damn he's got powerful intuition!) and aparently was using his magic the whole time to protect our syao's persona (thoery!) once he saw that the clone had taken over, he deduced that the sel was nearly entirly broken so he unleashed some POWERFUL magic to try and stop it. unfortunaly it wasnt enough. CLONE syao beat up fai ( ) and deducing that fai's eye was his power, stole it. and ate it :'( (oh thos beutiful blue eyes), but fai had LET him take it cuz he was still trying to place the heart back into him. unsuccefully. the REAL syao arrived on the scene too late to stop his clone. tho he had hoped that his clone would grow his own hert. thinking that it had failed, he has to destroy the clone before it could et out to do FWR's bidding. but he didn tget to cuz he heard sakura's plea, and got a sword thru his leg O_o.
Wait, I'm confused again. :uhoh:
1. What do you mean the clone took over completely? In Tokyo, Syaoran was trying to get Sakura's feather in the water but ended up fighting Kamui. And then Syaoran became another person? And then the real Syaoran appeared. So what happens to OUR Syaoran who likes Sakura?
2. Just to clarify, the REAL Syaoran is the one inside the tank? While the clone Syaoran is the one with Sakura this whole time?
akurashy
2006-08-01, 20:13
as far as i understand
Lets see,
The currently syaoran (the one that the series started with, is the clone, it seems that the real syoran before he was sealed, gave his heart to syaoran , and his right eye? , syoaran the (real) one is now looking for his right eye and the feathers of sakura, the clone syaoran got sealed, then he broke the seal and started fighting. about kamui, he didn't make much sense to me lol,
2, the clone (the one that always been with the party) , says "this feelings are yours for her" , then the real started attacking suddenly
i'm still very confused, i wonder whats going to happen =o , maybe the merge into one =x
i'm still very confused, i wonder whats going to happen =o , maybe the merge into one =x
That would be so much better wouldn't it? :heh: I find that CLAMP loves drawing twins. Chii, Subaru & Hokuto, that pair of girls in xxxHOLiC in episode 15, and now Syaoran. Hm, who else? :eyespin:
SailorYue
2006-08-01, 22:51
Wait, I'm confused again. :uhoh:
1. What do you mean the clone took over completely? In Tokyo, Syaoran was trying to get Sakura's feather in the water but ended up fighting Kamui. And then Syaoran became another person? And then the real Syaoran appeared. So what happens to OUR Syaoran who likes Sakura?
2. Just to clarify, the REAL Syaoran is the one inside the tank? While the clone Syaoran is the one with Sakura this whole time?
1: Our syaoran is a given personality by the real syao. when the real syao was cloned, the clone only had programming. to collect the tsubasa. but the real syao eciced that he wanted the clone to befriend sakura, so she wouldnt get hurt or nothing, so he coppied his heart. but aparently, whenever syaoran got hurt, that left him open for the clone;s personality to break thru and finishd the job, IE in lecourt, when syaoran got knocked out, the clone syao awoke and killed the guard-beast and got the feather. but since Real syao's seal was still holding, familiarty snaped our syao back to reality. unfortinaly, it left him open for more breakages. IE when syaoran fell asleep after gettign a nasty leg wound from kamui, it left him open for the clone;s program to break thru. that time, it was kuro;s voice and grab that snapped him out of it. unfortubnalty, the sealk was bbreaking too much, and the clone, at the mention of the feathers, was able to fbreak thru even tho syaoran was awake and fine.
when syao fought kamui, or rather when kamui used his vamp-nails to slice and dice syaoran to feed subaru, the seal broke beyond repare. the clon'es programming broke thru, and is aparently permannt.
the real syao, knew that eventualy his seal would break, and his heart wouldreturn to him. he had joped that all the time the clone spent with sakura, making new bonds woth many other people, would foster a heart of his own [the clone] either there IS no heart, or its blocked by the clone's programming, in which it would be sakura to break it open and make clone syao, OURS again.
perhaops, if its true taht clone will kidnapp sakura, perhaps their time alone, will allow sakura to free our syaoran.
#2 yes. that is correct.
akurashy
2006-08-01, 23:41
CLAMP impressed me this time, i thought they were going to keep up with the happy stories but TRC just got even more bloody than ever :o
im still shocked about some things like
when the real syaoran ate fai's eye
though now that the real syaoran showed up, those this mean that TRC is near the end ?(mid-stage)
Kazu-kun
2006-08-01, 23:49
CLAMP impressed me this time, i thought they were going to keep up with the happy stories but TRC just got even more bloody than ever :o
im still shocked about some things like
when the real syaoran ate fai's eye
The Syaoran who ate fai's eye was the clone, not the real one!
though now that the real syaoran showed up, those this mean that TRC is near the end ?(mid-stage)
I don't know if it's near the end, but this is certainly the climax of the story!
chrno_the_sinner
2006-08-01, 23:53
This recent arc is just... wow. I like Tsubasa 100x more than I did before. Even my friend said that Tsubasa is now his favourite series (previously X, Eva, Wolf's Rain.... it changes all the time).
I think that clone Syaoran has already began to form his heart and chances are that it will come out after he travels to a few worlds. I'm not sure what will happen after that. Maybe both Syaorans will join forces along with Kuro and Fai to get the feathers. That or one will die.
And maybe now that Fai is incapacitated, we'll receive a long-awaited trip to his world (since his wish was to never return to his world).
The Syaoran who ate fai's eye was the clone, not the real one!
What? Clone Syaoran ate Fai's eye. Clone Syaoran as in the kind Syaoran who was with Sakura this whole time? Why? :confused: I'm so confused~
You guys better read the manga. It's hard to explain if you didnt have some information on current development. No matter how people explain.. you'll end up confussed again and again
SailorYue
2006-08-02, 00:17
What? Clone Syaoran ate Fai's eye. Clone Syaoran as in the kind Syaoran who was with Sakura this whole time? Why? :confused: I'm so confused~
he ated cuz he wanted the power. he knew he would need more power inorder to gahter the feathers so he stole fai's eye, which is the source of fai';s magic.
Clone syao and Our syao are 2 separate entities actuialy. "OUR" syao is burried far deep. perhaps gone for good. CLONE syao is a soulless craetion made for only 1 purpose: to gather and collect the Feathers.
PS, i hope my aboeve post, the answer to yuor questions, was nt too confusing. i tend to ramble on sometimes ^^;;
You guys better read the manga. It's hard to explain if you didnt have some information on current development. No matter how people explain.. you'll end up confussed again and again
they, and myself ARE magna readers, but it gets confusing sometimes, between waiting for the next chaoter and the 2 week breaks (the wait between ch 120 and 121 was unbearable O_O)
they, and myself ARE magna readers, but it gets confusing sometimes, between waiting for the next chaoter and the 2 week breaks (the wait between ch 120 and 121 was unbearable O_O)
Yeh I uderstand that but it sound like they aren't reading the manga. Some of the questions asked sounded like people just want to know latest development. I also have have difficulty in understanding it especially the true and clone concept. But after reading a few time, should be able to figure out.
But you are sure patient in explaining to them. :)
Yeah, the suspense between 120-124 is worth waiting.
Ok so correct me if I am wrong here. Just trying to get everything straight. So the Syaoran we see from the start is a clone made by (someone?) before the real one, the on in the test tube looking thing, was sealed up, the clone had a so call "programming" kind of like and was made to only collect feathers but is like a machine and won't stop at any cost. The real syaoran saw this so he gave him a part of his heart and his right eye. The clone ever since has then got the "clone" programming sealed up and the part of "real heart" personality. Correct?
SailorYue
2006-08-02, 02:40
Ok so correct me if I am wrong here. Just trying to get everything straight. So the Syaoran we see from the start is a clone made by (someone?) before the real one, the on in the test tube looking thing, was sealed up, the clone had a so call "programming" kind of like and was made to only collect feathers but is like a machine and won't stop at any cost. The real syaoran saw this so he gave him a part of his heart and his right eye. The clone ever since has then got the "clone" programming sealed up and the part of "real heart" personality. Correct?
yes. and no..sorta.... anmd the pwserson youtr thinking of is Fei wang reed. both the Real syaoran and himself are diorect descendedts of clow reed. Real syao used his LEFT eye as a medium to transfer his heart. Fai tried the same thing when Clone stole his eye. Fai LET Clone syao take his eye so he could try to return the heart.
saw 124.. Kurogane asked if the witch can save Fai and she said yes. Looks....like...Kurogane has to sacrifice something to prevent Fai from dying
saw 124.. Kurogane asked if the witch can save Fai and she said yes. Looks....like...Kurogane has to sacrifice something to prevent Fai from dying
damn, these sacrifices continue, i wonder what kurogane is gonna sacrifice - maybe his memory of his family and world?
Kazu-kun
2006-08-02, 11:49
Ok so correct me if I am wrong here. Just trying to get everything straight. So the Syaoran we see from the start is a clone made by (someone?) before the real one, the on in the test tube looking thing, was sealed up, the clone had a so call "programming" kind of like and was made to only collect feathers but is like a machine and won't stop at any cost. The real syaoran saw this so he gave him a part of his heart and his right eye. The clone ever since has then got the "clone" programming sealed up and the part of "real heart" personality. Correct?
YES! it's exactly like you say.
What? Clone Syaoran ate Fai's eye. Clone Syaoran as in the kind Syaoran who was with Sakura this whole time? Why? :confused: I'm so confused~
Yes, the Clone Syaoran (Sakura's Syaoran) lost his heart (the half of a heart Real Syaora gave to him) when the seal broke. Without a heart he's just a "robot" programed to collect the feathers for Fei Wong Reed! He ate Fay's eye because the magic in it would help him to accomplish his task (collect the feathers)
damn, these sacrifices continue, i wonder what kurogane is gonna sacrifice - maybe his memory of his family and world?
I hope he won't sacrifice his memories of Tomoyo. Please, anything but that!!!!
SailorYue
2006-08-02, 17:48
ch 124= canon for KUROFAI!!! ^_____^
well, almost. now its hanging by a thread :D
omg..i dont understand the manga that much this is really confusing to me..... i read too chap 122..and this is not making and sence to0o me at all....
akurashy
2006-08-03, 19:55
It's very simple
But when it comes to twins/clones it's hard to compare >_<
Nightengale
2006-08-03, 19:59
omg..i dont understand the manga that much this is really confusing to me..... i read too chap 122..and this is not making and sence to0o me at all....
A long long time ago, FWR captured the ORIGINAL Syaoran, the one who was in the tube. THE ORIGINAL.
From him, he created a Syaoran Clone, TERMINATOR Syaoran whose mission was to gather the feathers NO MATTER THE CAUSE.
But before FWR could send him out to the world, ORIGINAL implanted HIS EYE AND HALF HIS HEART into the TERMINATOR, making him more human and not a mission clone robot.
He does this hoping that after years and years of living with a fake heart, he would grow his own when the seal weakens and the eye/heart eventually return to the ORIGINAL.
It didn't work.
So, when the SEAL was broken, TERMINATOR is back, and the ORIGINAL is back both to it's true form.
In other words, we've been reading TERMINATOR SYAORAN with HALF OF TUBE/ORIGINAL'S HEART throughout Tsubasa.
Bronwen Stx
2006-08-03, 23:54
That's one hell of a twist. :D I certainly love the latest developments. Hehe. Thinking all this time that the Syoaran we know is the real one and the fake one in the tube but all this time our Syoaran is fake.
SailorYue
2006-08-04, 00:06
i like TB subaru a bit more than X subaru. even tho i never read TB or got past vol 2 of X...TB subaru is so much more cuter
X_x
Evil Syaorran must die >_<
Kazu-kun
2006-08-04, 13:37
X_x
Evil Syaorran must die >_<
But "Evil" Syaoran is Sakura's Syaoran. Thus he shouldn't die, or else Sakura would be devastated :(
akurashy
2006-08-04, 14:01
But "Evil" Syaoran is Sakura's Syaoran. Thus he shouldn't die, or else Sakura would be devastated :(
With just that, you going to make all the people in this thread that doesn't understand to mindbreak :D :D
Anyway, I haven't check how it ended, are they continuing it in vol 16?
chrno_the_sinner
2006-08-04, 22:54
Volume 16 ends with Chapter 124, leaving it with a big, stupidly brilliant cliffhanger.
CLAMP never ceases to amaze me with their plot developments. Everything comes out of nowhere, yet it was there the whole time. Hence my friend making theories about X EVERY day.
I read somewhere that CLAMP knows the endings to their series beforehand. :eyespin: I wonder if they work backwards when writing their story?
Okay, so "Evil" Syaoran is Sakura's Syaoran.....but what's happened then to the "Good" Syaoran's Sakura, that we saw in the very first pages of chapter 1? Assuming that she is of course a different Sakura.
Also...what world does this "Good" Syaoran and his Sakura come from? We know he uses Chinese style magic, and is descended from Reed...but that doesn't tell us much. Interestingly enough though...what we know about this Syaoran thusfar doesn't disqualify him from possibily being the grown up "original" Syaoran of CCS.
Okay, so "Evil" Syaoran is Sakura's Syaoran.....but what's happened then to the "Good" Syaoran's Sakura, that we saw in the very first pages of chapter 1? Assuming that she is of course a different Sakura.
Are you sure you've been reading the story? There is only one Sakura. She has just lost her memories but it's really the same person. At least for now...
Are you sure you've been reading the story? There is only one Sakura. She has just lost her memories but it's really the same person. At least for now...
I'm re-reading it for the nth time right now, from the Japanese hardcover volumes. Take a look at the first 9 pages of volume 1, chapter 1. Given the scene on page 40 of that opening chapter, the events on those first 9 pages must certainly happen before the beginning of the whole story, so it's likely that the Syaoran there is the "Good" one who's only just appeared. But is that Sakura there the same Sakura who we've been following all this time, or another Sakura? The way things are done with that scene on page 40, it's not conclusive. We know the ruins were "calling" her, and that she saw images of those scenes, but that doesn't tell us if those were memories she'd already had buried within her and forgotten, or if she was seeing the memories of another Sakura.
SailorYue
2006-08-05, 18:51
chapter 125 is out
http://www.savefile.com/files.php?fid=6021142 <-raws] what kuro has to do O_O. yuuko takes 2 wishes at once. saving fai, and subaru's wish to return the water. O_O
CLAMP has made Subaru young again and he looks like from back in Tokyo Babylon! That's very interesting. But I liked his design in X more because it looks more mature and grown up.
Because Subaru interacts with Kamui, I find it odd that they chose to use the old design of Subaru.
SailorYue
2006-08-06, 00:02
CLAMP has made Subaru young again and he looks like from back in Tokyo Babylon! That's very interesting. But I liked his design in X more because it looks more mature and grown up.
Because Subaru interacts with Kamui, I find it odd that they chose to use the old design of Subaru.
they chose the younger one cuz they made kamui and subaru twins. the TB subaru looks more like kamui then the x one. plus, TB subaru is cuter ^_^
btw...ch 125...is every fangril (and even boy)'s dream. its the best chaopter ever. and the cliffhanger right before the 2 week break. ZOMG
Jesus, I think the whole fandom went batshit insane over this new chapter.
Was this what Ohkawa was talking about when she addressed that yaoi question in their panel a few weeks back? :heh: If it is, then... wow. :heh:
About the classic pairing Seishirou/Subaru, now that all the actors are on stage, raise your hand if you can see big, big silly wank with the Seishirou/Subaru and Subaru/Kamui fans like what happened before. :twitch:
SailorYue
2006-08-06, 02:07
Jesus, I think the whole fandom went batshit insane over this new chapter.
Was this what Ohkawa was talking about when she addressed that yaoi question in their panel a few weeks back? :heh: If it is, then... wow. :heh:
About the classic pairing Seishirou/Subaru, now that all the actors are on stage, raise your hand if you can see big, big silly wank with the Seishirou/Subaru and Subaru/Kamui fans like what happened before. :twitch:
yes. the moment we read chaoter 125 its too obveious. there is no WAY you can say that its not canon!!!
subaru asks yuuko to return the water lost, and she says she will, if subaru gives fai his blood. kamui doesnt want subaru to do that so he'll do it. there's the slight probem of fai becomming a vampire if he drinks their blood and yuuko says that if he mizxes it with kuro's blood, it should nullify the vamp gene. the only down side is that fai would have to feed off of kuro's blood for the rest of his lifem, AND if kuro dies, Fai would die.
try saying that that isnt canon. go ahead, i dare ya :heh:
Well, it's not really about the 'canon' for me, if that's how you put it...
I've grown up reading CLAMP's works, and indeed, boys love/yaoi undertones and fanservice is nothing out of the ordinary. I've always seen Kuro/Fai purely as fan-fodder for the female fanbase, teasing and sometimes in-your-face, but nothing substantial and canon that could be integrated into the main storyline itself.
But I'll grant that this chapter comes very very close (not entirely) to pushing Kuro/Fai to the same canon level as Seishirou/Subaru or Touya/Yukito, not so much due to their actions, but the consequences of it. (Basically, Kurogane and Fai are now linked together; Fai could not survive without Kuro now, am I right?)
I'm not really interested in this pairing, to be honest. :p Aside from Sakura and Syaoran, I only started following Tsubasa actively because of the implication that Seishirou and Subaru could start anew, as opposed to the tragic trainwreck their story ended in in X. ;) (But from the looks of things now, it seems angst is destined to follow them wherever they go.)
WOW 125 was shocking, yaoi??
fai sucking on kurogane. *shivers
WOW 125 was shocking, yaoi??
fai sucking on kurogane. *shivers
Didnt suck! Rather the other two "donate/drip" it.
can someone tell me where to download chapter 103 till 125? thanks
Sorry we are not allow to do that. Plus you are not suppose to post a question asking for it.
SailorYue
2006-08-07, 18:56
perhaps they didnt know it was againt the rules to ask. tho it IS ok to send PMs with a site.
even if ch 125 isnt canon for love, its definalty undeniable that kurogane cares ALOT for fai, and willing to do ANYTHING for him, even.....
This is getting interesting. The real Syaoran seems like the Syaoran we all know. So Sakura wouldn't be that disappointed...would she? Fai x Kurogane is getting heated up. :heh:
Gankutsuou
2006-08-07, 22:34
WOW! i just read chapter 125 translated! I was expecting to come online next wednesday to read it but this is quite fast.
But anyway, YAY for KuroxFai! It seems like they aren't going to be separated for a long, long, long time. Or should i say, they're inseparable now since Fai will need Kurogane whereever he goes. (i hope that didn't spoil anything.)
SailorYue
2006-08-07, 22:42
not too much, it wqould definatly peak any kurofai fan's interest :D
Who cares about KuroxFai, Seishirou/Subaru is the real deal. :p
On a serious note, I've been waiting for like, months already - when do I get my f*cked-up SeixSub fix? Mai Otomoe's Shizuru/Natsuki fans can understand my pain, right? Right?! :heh:
SailorYue
2006-08-08, 00:59
Who cares about KuroxFai,
NEVER ask a KuroFai fangirl that question!!!:frustrated:
:heh:
since syao-saku is currently non-existant. (from what yukito said in the begining, yes it most likly will return, but not for quite a while) Kurogane and Fai can get teh spotlight for once :D
akurashy
2006-08-08, 21:29
No pls, tomo-chan please appear and get kuro back! ;-;
no guyxguy, too creepy T_T
*runs away from the fan girls with shotguns*
SailorYue
2006-08-08, 23:08
No pls, tomo-chan please appear and get kuro back! ;-;
no guyxguy, too creepy T_T
*runs away from the fan girls with shotguns*
theres no problem wuith kuro and tomo being to gether, BUT
dont you think itd be wierd? Kurogane and fai have an ETERNAL UBNBREAKABLE BOND. fai has to feed off him x amount of times whenever. its something interesting XD
plus, dont forget. CLAMP are the goddesses of making shonen-ai pairng. most popular really is Touya-yukito. theres also kamui-fuuma, seishiro-subaru, yasha-ashura (it counts!) doumeki-watenuki. the list goes on :D
i think its a done deal with kuro x fai. BUT, how will things work out in the end?
kurogane will wanna go back to his home, and i have a feeling fai will stop running away and return to his own world, but he needs kurogane to survive.
kurogane will wanna go back to his home, and i have a feeling fai will stop running away and return to his own world, but he needs kurogane to survive.
since fai dont want to return home. he can just stay where kurogane want to be. but i hate that idea.
akurashy
2006-08-08, 23:34
since fai dont want to return home. he can just stay where kurogane want to be. but i hate that idea.
nuuu
tooo creeepy!
now to the poiint
That won't work, fai and kurogane language aren't the same, the reason they are speaking is because of mokona, so we go back to the fact that fai will need to stop running away
SailorYue
2006-08-08, 23:38
nuuu
tooo creeepy!
now to the poiint
That won't work, fai and kurogane language aren't the same, the reason they are speaking is because of mokona, so we go back to the fact that fai will need to stop running away
Kurogane and fai will stay together for ever. theres no chiocd to the point anyways. Kurogane wanted fai to live, so he took on the responsability to become fai's prey. even if the next world they arrive in is Nihon, he will either convince fai to stay, or will follow the mage. otherwise fai would die of starvation. and kurogane would never let that happen.
akurashy
2006-08-08, 23:42
I guess, but i can think of many ways out in the story, well i guess i wait for the goddess to decide
tomo-chan won't lose! *acts hard headed*
there should be more development to the storyline. so everything is a wild guess now.
Kurogane and fai will stay together for ever. theres no chiocd to the point anyways.
Fan girls are scary! :heh:
Maybe something will come up where Kurogane will have to kill Fai. Or Fai kills himself.
Gankutsuou
2006-08-09, 18:01
No pls, tomo-chan please appear and get kuro back! ;-;
no guyxguy, too creepy T_T
*runs away from the fan girls with shotguns*
Well, if you don't like BL or creeped out by it, then stay away from CLAMP. I think you should because you sound like a homophobe and CLAMP is famous for BL pairings. And KuroFai is their latest development! :D
Fan girls are scary! :heh:
Maybe something will come up where Kurogane will have to kill Fai. Or Fai kills himself.
No offense, but why the heck would he kill Fai when he had to go through all the trouble to revive him?????? That sounds pretty dumb to me and i doubt CLAMP even thought of that.
akurashy
2006-08-10, 18:15
Well, if you don't like BL or creeped out by it, then stay away from CLAMP. I think you should because you sound like a homophobe and CLAMP is famous for BL pairings. And KuroFai is their latest development! :D
No offense, but why the heck would he kill Fai when he had to go through all the trouble to revive him?????? That sounds pretty dumb to me and i doubt CLAMP even thought of that.
homophobe ? me? naw, though i don't like it doesn't mean i'm one :P ,
I doubt anything happens between them, despise the fact that they are stuck together.
right now i'm waiting for some chapters to be released , because i don't like reading one a week x_X
i got spoiled a bit, but doesn't suprise me much, I*i have read other clamps work* expected miaybe XD
anyway, i doubt kuro kills fai, if he does then everyone's expresision be like "O_O?!"
Haruka-Kun
2006-08-11, 17:04
I don't think Kurogane will ever kill Fai (just look at how much he cares about Fai!!!). Why would you kill someone you care so much about (Kurogane does not let go of Fai the whole time Fai got injure). :p
Anyway, I don't think Fai would kill himself either, since he knows that Kurogane sacrifice so much just to want him alive. If he were to die, I think the reason is to save Kurogane. That is reasonable and it is something that Clamp would do (since they like tragedy and angst ...cought... tokyo babylon.....)
I love Tsubasa so much!!! well, second to xxxholic anyways... can't wait till the next chapter.
SailorYue
2006-08-11, 17:51
I don't think Kurogane will ever kill Fai (just look at how much he cares about Fai!!!). Why would you kill someone you care so much about (Kurogane does not let go of Fai the whole time Fai got injure). :p
Anyway, I don't think Fai would kill himself either, since he knows that Kurogane sacrifice so much just to want him alive. If he were to die, I think the reason is to save Kurogane. That is reasonable and it is something that Clamp would do (since they like tragedy and angst ...cought... tokyo babylon.....)
I love Tsubasa so much!!! well, second to xxxholic anyways... can't wait till the next chapter.
lol, and just look at what happened when he DID "try to die" kuro basicaly flew off the handle at him and told him that HE would be the one to kill him X) IMO, that is the most sicere threat he has ever made to fai. not that he ever would, but still. all those other threats he;s made to the mage were just pissed off "youll pay for that" threats :P.
ch 124 splash + blood binding + end cap of ch 125 = CANON :D
SailorYue
2006-08-22, 23:57
ch 126 is pretty cool
the demanded kamui-subaru splash,
fai;s transformation looked painful, tho theres alot of closeness between him and kuro
...too bad the vamp thing is only temporary... i hope we get alteast ONE feeding
AND also on demand: FUUMA with YET ANOTHER feather in his hands! poor sakura, she hasnt been awake for more than 5 minutes in this wolrd XD
Gankutsuou
2006-08-23, 00:56
OH yeah. I just read it. i think it's pretty good but i didn't like the
the fact that the vampire Fai is going to be just temporary. They got us all excited and then this. But i wasn't shock or sad about this, because i think that it will take them a long time to get Fai his eye back. And in the meantime, we get to see more of Kuro feeding Fai.
SailorYue
2006-08-23, 01:45
OH yeah. I just read it. i think it's pretty good but i didn't like the
the fact that the vampire Fai is going to be just temporary. They got us all excited and then this. But i wasn't shock or sad about this, because i think that it will take them a long time to get Fai his eye back. And in the meantime, we get to see more of Kuro feeding Fai.
i hope so if they deny us a feeding, there will bbe many angry fangirls. i LOVE my feeding yaoi drabble, i dont want it to go to waste XP
They 'll have to think of a way to feed since the witch had said that Fai is likely to refuse the feeding.
I rather have development between Sakura and the real Syaron, than reading about the feeding....
SailorYue
2006-08-23, 03:36
They 'll have to think of a way to feed since the witch had said that Fai is likely to refuse the feeding.
I rather have development between Sakura and the real Syaron, than reading about the feeding....
actualy, what was said, Fai will reject the VAMPIRE blood. ionce the vamp magic regenerates his eye, fai's powers will return fully. fai's magic will then reject the vamp powers and he will be human. Fai will have to eat atleast once (hopefully) tho im not 100% sure. we'll have to wait for Pikari's translation
actualy, what was said, Fai will reject the VAMPIRE blood. ionce the vamp magic regenerates his eye, fai's powers will return fully. fai's magic will then reject the vamp powers and he will be human. Fai will have to eat atleast once (hopefully) tho im not 100% sure. we'll have to wait for Pikari's translation
I have read the chapter. Yes, Fai would need to get his eye back and then he wont have to rely on Kurogane's blood. BUut the problem lies until he get it back. And Fai would mos tprobably refuse to take kurogane blood, so they will need to think of a way to convince him. Cause fai might want to die rather than taking kurogane blood.
SailorYue
2006-08-24, 02:41
I have read the chapter. Yes, Fai would need to get his eye back and then he wont have to rely on Kurogane's blood. BUut the problem lies until he get it back. And Fai would mos tprobably refuse to take kurogane blood, so they will need to think of a way to convince him. Cause fai might want to die rather than taking kurogane blood.
right. i read a "MQ" translations (pikari's are the bst IMO) and from what i can surmise:
Fai will need to get his original eye from the clone. then he will regain his magic, which will negate the vamp powers. at which time, Kurogane';s role as Prey will be over. but untill then, fai WILL need to FEED.
so fai will be a vamp for atleast another volume or 2 ^_^
read chapter 127.
Sakura told mokona that she doesnt need her feathers anymore. I think she realize that all the memory that she had in the past was with the clone...
I do say that Yuuko's reasons for the price she required was for the better, at least the chance for a new beginning is now present.
SailorYue
2006-08-30, 04:19
ch 127 was a bit boring in comparison to previous chapters. ^^;;;
but the splash page: GLORIOUS *__*
Could one of you summarise the whole 127 please? the raw pics don't tell me as much as i want and i'm to anxious to wait .
SailorYue
2006-08-30, 18:50
you can read the scanslated ch on an msn group...ill PM you the link...
but basicaly what happens is
Fuuma wants to move the tower peoople into the gov't building because tower is almost out of water. he's willing to give their feather to them. Mokona cant sence the feather's power beacuse fuuma changed it's properties. mokona still wants to give it to sakura, but sakura awakes and says that they can keep it, because if mokona cant sense it, then Clone syao also shouldnt return either. then mokona spits out the 13 jughs of water that watenuki had collected in xxxholic ch 110-113 and they errupt into fountains of water.
ok... sorry but i can't understand a single think you're saying... who exactly is the real syaoran? the one that we follow through the books or the one that was closed in a gar? and what about saku? could you explain that again plz???:confused:
Sailor yue explained that before .. so you better check the last 3 pages. It's only 3 pages not like 20 pages in Suzuka thread.
sry....read them... but there are still a couple of things i dont understand...
i mean when was the real syaoran captured?hasn't he met sakura? ever??? isn't he in love with her???(they are ment to be together so they sould at least know each other...) and what is the real syoran doing now?
and what about sakura? if the one we saw all this time ant the real one where is the real one??
sry....read them... but there are still a couple of things i dont understand...
i mean when was the real syaoran captured?hasn't he met sakura? ever??? isn't he in love with her???(they are ment to be together so they sould at least know each other...) and what is the real syoran doing now?
and what about sakura? if the one we saw all this time ant the real one where is the real one??
some of the question are yet answered up to now. But the true syaoran has sacrificed his time & freedom until he was transport by the witch to the current world. The true syaron is the one that has eye-patch and captured. The one we have seen so far is the clone that has part of his heart, through the eye.
maybe sailoryue would add more details.
i've just read the latest chapters and i officially hate clamp!!!!(or at least i will if they dont change it later on...)
what are they gonna do with the fake syaoran? if sakura ends up with the real one in the end i will be more than disapointed... it doesn't really matter whose heart it was! the one that sakura fell for was the fake one and she should stay that way... i really hope they wont change it... does any body know anything that happens after chap 127???(well you probaly wont since i think it's the last one out...)
oh yeay... i still dont get some of the things that happen but i guess that after the 100th time i will ^_^
SailorYue
2006-09-06, 18:07
keep an eye on clamp-hikari (http://clamp-hikari.livejournal.com/) and chibiyuuto (http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/)'s live journals. they find spoilers that are quite relyable.
as for your post...only speculations are about fro the syaoprans...we'll have to let CLAMP show us whats going to happen. possibly sakura will awaken the clones heart by her ability to talk to "lonely souls" even trees ETC. in the first volume, yukit said something along the lines that syaoran and sakura are meant fro eachother...he was talking about the clone, so its possible that the clone could be saved.
Didn't the real Syaoran even say to the clone that the feeling that Saukra is his most important person comes from him(the clone ) not from the part of the heart he (real one) lent him? I guess that means he's trying to sve the clone too. :D i sure hope so
Nightengale
2006-09-07, 05:22
Didn't the real Syaoran even say to the clone that the feeling that Saukra is his most important person comes from him(the clone ) not from the part of the heart he (real one) lent him? I guess that means he's trying to sve the clone too. :D i sure hope so
I think he said...
That he believed that Termi-Syaoran's feelings to Sakura were genuinely of his own, and not something that stemed out and was created from his, which means that a feeling that while not the original's completely (( There's clearly a fleeting rift between the original and Sakura, kinda like he looks and act the same, but is different. Chap 127's Sakura must've felt that. )), it was an original feeling created from the subconscious of the original's feelings, but not the clone's. When the original saw that his clone totally lost any shred of feelings, he went to fight it because he thinks he cannot be redeemed anymore if his years sharing a heart doesn't create a heart of it's own.
Frankly, I think Tsubasa will go the "He does have a heart, and I'll unlock it ala Sailor Moon when Tuxedo Mask went mind-spazzed" and give Terminator Syaoran and Sakura their happy ending. I'm not surprised if the original even decides to sacrifice himself for them.
It's not like the immortal original Syaoran and Sakura can hit it off anyway.
i really hope the real syaoran wont be the one in the first pages of the first chap... personaly i dont care if he is real or not but if sakura got together with the real one it wont be fair... i mean we were seeing the fake one try his best up to the latest chapters so he has to get the girl in the end... and in the last chapter sakura didn't seem to get affected by the fact that the real syaoran looked just like her syaoran...so i really hope they will give it a happy ending concerning the fake syao...
i really hope the real syaoran wont be the one in the first pages of the first chap... personaly i dont care if he is real or not but if sakura got together with the real one it wont be fair... i mean we were seeing the fake one try his best up to the latest chapters so he has to get the girl in the end... and in the last chapter sakura didn't seem to get affected by the fact that the real syaoran looked just like her syaoran...so i really hope they will give it a happy ending concerning the fake syao...
The clone didnt have any feeling. The true syaron had hope that the clone would develop his own heart or feeling but it didnt. So presumably, the clone didnt try his best, he did it because the true syaron heart/eye was in it.
What we need to know now is why Syaron got captured and sacrificed his freedom and time up to now. As for the clone, I doubt it will develop anything since the true syaron said it (unless there's a twist). As for sakura, that's natural, if you realize that the syaron she knew up to now was just a empty vessel with no feeling, her emotion would be shattered. She couldnt just receive the true syaron yet.
I'm speculating a sad ending for the clone.
i actually like nightengale's guess better... i really like our syao... sniff
Maybe I am the odd man out, but I'm all for the real syaoran. I mean, if the clone's feelings came from the original, then obviously he had some prior connection with Sakura. Also, I think its going to be revealed that the sacrifices he made were somehow to protect her anyways, while all the clone has done is vehemently fought to regain her memories. I also think something related to the price Yuuko placed on them in the begining (Sakura not remembering Syaoran) have something to do with her not remembering because it was the fake Syaoran. So in effect, this would ease what is her burden/sadness after these recent events, and at the same time still make sense as a very reasonable price for the clone to pay. One last thing, the real Syaoran has all of the memories (or well experienced all of the events) that the clone went through via the other eye, and has his heart back now, so in effect he is that Syaoran minus the programming that was added to the clone.
Kazu-kun
2006-09-10, 09:40
Maybe I am the odd man out, but I'm all for the real syaoran. I mean, if the clone's feelings came from the original, then obviously he had some prior connection with Sakura.
But the clone's feelings didn't come from the real one. Just half of his heart, that allowed the clone to have his own feelings (heart and feelings are different things, but you need the former in order to produce the later).
Real Syaoran hoped that the clone's feelings would create a new heart, but they didn't, yet. I think the clone and Sakura will meet again, and the clone will create his own heart then.
I'm also for Real syaron. Mareel has a point though not sure if that's CLAMP intention. The sacrifce that Sakura had to lose her memory of syaron may has some strong connection with the real syaron story. But we wont know yet.
I agree with kazu-kun... the real syaoran has no connection with sakura... seeing something and living it are two different things... I don't know if he falls in love with her later on(after all he is a syaoran so he has to fall for sakura) but right now he can't possibly love her... and what do you mean he is syaoran minus the programming? there is no way the two of them are the same character... did the fake syoran act like the one from cardcaptors?(at least in the beginning...) just because the sear the same face and the same heart doesn't mean the are the same person... it's your experiences that make you who you are... and the real syao doesn't have ANY experiences with sakura...
I think (or I at least hope) that the fake syaoran will come back for sakura.. I’d feel really sorry for the real one.... but that’s life... I’d be more hurt if they turn the one we've been following in the past 16 vol into the bad guy....
Anyway, whatever they choose they are clamp so they probably present it in a way everyone could accept...
The price makes sense for allowing the real Syaoran to have a relationship with Sakura, otherwise it wouldn't work.
128.
wait what? Sakura going off on her own?
aaaaah. i want a summary :(
SailorYue
2006-09-12, 18:04
128.
wait what? Sakura going off on her own?
aaaaah. i want a summary :(
basically, fuuma explains how he got the feather. his BROTHER sieshiro gav it to him. then fuuma, afte a brief fight with kamui, exolains how seishro also told him about the twins. "kamui is a strong fighter, but Subaru-san is even scarier when angry. "subaru (in totla vampout O.O) "please let kamui go" (kamui-fuuma fangirls would squeel at the moment...the way those 2 were so close in this ch ^^;;) then fuuma says hi to yuuko. (geez...does EVERYONE know her? XP)
since yuuko said that if they dont do something about the water system, the acid rain will polute it (or something like that) and she's ready for paymn.t ifrst real syao offers up, then sakura says she will, and asks for an explaintion as to whats happened while she was out. Fuuma then show her how to run his bike thingy and shes going to go where yuuko tells her, (saying sorry for real syao's injury and telling kuro to take care of fai and his own injuries.)
basically, fuuma explains how he got the feather. his BROTHER sieshiro gav it to him. then fuuma, afte a brief fight with kamui, exolains how seishro also told him about the twins. "kamui is a strong fighter, but Subaru-san is even scarier when angry. "subaru (in totla vampout O.O) "please let kamui go" (kamui-fuuma fangirls would squeel at the moment...the way those 2 were so close in this ch ^^;;) then fuuma says hi to yuuko. (geez...does EVERYONE know her? XP)
since yuuko said that if they dont do something about the water system, the acid rain will polute it (or something like that) and she's ready for paymn.t ifrst real syao offers up, then sakura says she will, and asks for an explaintion as to whats happened while she was out. Fuuma then show her how to run his bike thingy and shes going to go where yuuko tells her, (saying sorry for real syao's injury and telling kuro to take care of fai and his own injuries.)
Sakura's getting stronger ....
tnx for the summary. and about time. She should be strong if she ever wants to save the clone :D
Re: Tsubasa 128
Even though the name is merely uttered, I jump in glee at the mention of Seishirou. Finally. It still hasn't sunk in that Seishirou is Fuuma's brother (too much) but how Fuuma was all,"So you're Subaru-san. Nii-san was always in your care" speaks of a long story between them, and I eagerly await! :D
SailorYue
2006-09-13, 18:36
posted to the msn group, for those that have the link ^^
The whole thing about Sakura going from wall flower to Lara croftish was too jarring, there should have been a better presented transition to be honest, it doesn't feel quite right.
SailorYue
2006-09-13, 23:07
well she's simpley sick of being ALSEEP all the time. (which may be another eason she refused to take fuuma's feather. she didnt want to go into another feather coma.
anyways, the chpter is re-uploaded to the msn group and is now readable. sorry about before.
Wanting to be more proactive is one thing, but going off into a hostile environment by oneself is just too ludicrous from my POV.
akurashy
2006-09-19, 22:24
okay i'm a bit lost here after for a long time not reading tsubasa
In chap 122, the clone syaoran is now the one with his heart, even if he is a clone he fights the real syaoran which is now the bad robot one?
by robot i mean the one saying "i must get all the feather no matter what
i guess i need to go back and check out =/
okay i'm a bit lost here after for a long time not reading tsubasa
In chap 122, the clone syaoran is now the one with his heart, even if he is a clone he fights the real syaoran which is now the bad robot one?
by robot i mean the one saying "i must get all the feather no matter what
i guess i need to go back and check out =/
It's the other way around. The clone Syaoran is the one saying "I must get the feather back yadayadayada..." and is the Syaoran that had been travelling with Sakura and co. all this time. The real Syaoran is the one who had been in the test tube this whole time and is the actual owner of the heart.
SailorYue
2006-09-21, 02:42
129 is out and on the msn group, albiet they used the not-so-good chinese scans, meaning theres a HUGE orange watermark every other page -_-;; no worries tho, when lady dark moon posts her scans, and theyre cleaned, we'll trade off thepages with non-watermarked :D
anyways, as for my veiws of ch 129
pretty touching convo between mokona and real syaoran. mokona saying that he must have been so lonekly watching things thru the eye ;_;
and sakura's rtreck...that monster... O_O
anyways, as for my veiws of ch 129
pretty touching convo between mokona and real syaoran. mokona saying that he must have been so lonekly watching things thru the eye ;_;
and sakura's rtreck...that monster... O_O
like the part on mokona and real syaron as well.
SailorYue
2006-09-22, 03:30
like the part on mokona and real syaron as well.
i said that
i said that
yes I know. and I like it TOO
I agree with kazu-kun... the real syaoran has no connection with sakura... seeing something and living it are two different things...I haven't read the latest chapters in detail, but I believe that may not be the case.
What made the clone Syaoran, the one we know and Sakura and the others liked, is the heart he had carried. If the clone Syaoran's heart fully confuses with the remaining half within the original Syaoran, the clone's feelings might be transferred to the original.
SailorYue
2006-09-24, 18:16
PQ chapt and MQ transation for 130:
http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2449
(the last page is aparently missing, y'know the end cap thingy?]
pure angst.
poor kuro and fai. fai wont forgive kuro because he doesnt want to get too clsoe to him. that spells love. he WANTS to but is afraaid too T_T
poor sakura... she hurt and scratched to bleed while climbing the cliff. The part where she had to use her fingers to stop herself from dropping's real painful
SailorYue
2006-09-26, 15:51
use spoiler tags please. half the people who veiw this simply buy delrey's translations. not everyone reads the up to date
sazan fan
2006-09-27, 18:18
PQ chapt and MQ transation for 130:
http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2449
(the last page is aparently missing, y'know the end cap thingy?]
pure angst.
poor kuro and fai. fai wont forgive kuro because he doesnt want to get too clsoe to him. that spells love. he WANTS to but is afraaid too T_T
Probably not love. Because it is, then he is in for a heat break. Kuro already has a girl back in his own world. It is probably just close friendship, that way, when the series is over, and if everyone is still alive, no one would be heart broken.
SailorYue
2006-09-28, 02:53
not nesesarily. the look on kuro's face when fai said good morning...that was much more then "deep freindship" the tone fai used, it was probably sarcastic or not in a friendly manner. plus the LOOK on fai's face...thats just creepy that smile was.
when fai said "good moring "Kurogane" " that to me sounds like fai was not happy at kuro, and being its the first time since they met that he used hs real name. the way it was said, compared the the nicknames(even Kuro-sama, which is more or less respectful) such a change. kurogane was not veryu happy.
also, kruo stalked off, after throwing a rain coat at fai, to go and watch for sakura. the way he acted, kurogane was upset. kurogane is not open with any emotion other then anger. (see: hole in wall) when kuro punched that hoe in the wal;l, he was upset. probably terrified of losing someone close to him. (he's lost his parents at a young ge, blaming himself for his mothers death and the destruction of his village. then syaoran up and betrayed everyone by losing himself to the clone personality. he was NOT going to lose someone else if he could help it)
also, rather then graditude or fai's flirty self, he got the polar oposite. kuro had basicaly gone thru emotional hell in the past few hours (sakura not breathing, syaoran's betrayal, seeing the symbol that represents his mother's murder on someone who looks just like the kid who just betreyed them, the thoght of losing fai, worrying about sakura out alone in the scary world that is tokyo...) and fai just up and dumped THAT on his plate. even tho kurogane is not one to wear his heart on his sleeve, he's obviously seriously hurt by the way fai greeted him. and that represents a very deep bond, MORETehn "close friends
Probably not love. Because it is, then he is in for a heat break. Kuro already has a girl back in his own world. It is probably just close friendship, that way, when the series is over, and if everyone is still alive, no one would be heart broken.
Actually, Kurogane has three girls waiting for him back in his own world. They all fancy girls, though.
SailorYue
2006-09-28, 17:29
Actually, Kurogane has three girls waiting for him back in his own world. They all fancy girls, though.
3 girls? i only know of Souma and Tomoyo, and both women are lesbos. (if your talking about amaterasu/kendappa(she's gay too)...i dont think she's around really. SHE was the ruler of japan befor tomyuo and now tomoyo is...
3 girls? i only know of Souma and Tomoyo, and both women are lesbos. (if your talking about amaterasu/kendappa(she's gay too)...i dont think she's around really. SHE was the ruler of japan befor tomyuo and now tomoyo is...
Its amazing how they've all turned out to be lesbian.. thank you RG Veda. :3
Yeah... Tomoyo, Souma, and Kendappa. The three women waiting for Kurogane! Though, like I said, they all like girls.
SailorYue
2006-09-28, 22:10
i missread your statement. still, kurogane wouldnt carefor anyof them anyways. XP
SailorYue
2006-10-01, 00:09
aparetnyl theres been a few changes in vol 16...including 3 new images added to ch 120...lo and behold the new ch 120 page 13,14,15 (http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/chapter120.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2986) (they will make fai fans sqee and melt ^^)
SailorYue
2006-10-05, 01:42
latest chapter posted to the msn group...
alot of sakura action and a few pages of kuro-r!syao interaction. the sakrua ction stuff...O.O that is one major nasty ouchie on her leg
Poor Sakura! I think this Sakura is the first Sakura who gets battered up so much. I mean compared to CCS. I don't like the new Syaoran letting her go by herself. :(
Ganbare, Sakura-chan! T_T
painful to watch Sakura suffering in chapter 131
They shouldn't have let Sakura go by herself, that's a bad idea no matter how you cut it...
SailorYue
2006-10-07, 12:09
They shouldn't have let Sakura go by herself, that's a bad idea no matter how you cut it...
true, but she;s a very determined person. Kurogane couldng go anywhere becuse he couldnt leave fai alone. and syaoran WANTED to go, but sakura insisted.
true, but she;s a very determined person. Kurogane couldng go anywhere becuse he couldnt leave fai alone. and syaoran WANTED to go, but sakura insisted.
Determination against adversity is one thing, but stubborness for the sake of pride gets people killed faster than bullets. :uhoh:
SailorYue
2006-10-08, 05:40
indeed.
hey, ive heard rumors about 132...something about fai and kuro having a heated arguement over sakura's safety.....
keep an eye out for early releases, like on the chinese sub site and LJ's
i don't care how much Sakura suffers as long as she has her mind set on saving/humanising/whatever Csyaoran :)
really, I dont care about Csyaoran at all. I like Syaoran and Sakura more
SailorYue
2006-10-09, 22:16
the translation for 132 is out...but not the scans...the chapter sounds so good *__*
really, I dont care about Csyaoran at all. I like Syaoran and Sakura more
Why if i may ask?
Why if i may ask?
Cause it's a clone.
P/S: Sakura's attempting to revive the clone. So if you dont care about Sakura's suffering, it's better off not saving the clone.
SailorYue
2006-10-10, 14:10
chinese scans and english traslations are avalable:
http://www.tsubasachronicle.net/forums/showthread.php?t=2622
it will be scanslated later and posted to MSN group
SailorYue
2006-10-10, 22:52
ch 132 now on msn. enjoy the angst O_O
kuro and fai have a arguement cuz kuro let sakura go out...fai even goes vampy ready to fight kuro to go O_O
the fai-sakura moment at the end was simply adorable tho. ;_;
-KarumA-
2006-10-11, 03:17
i had a question, i was reading on to the xxx holic manga volume 10,
at some point Watanuki fell 2 stories high with shattered glass and 3 people made a wish at Yuuko's store to save his life, the ' other' Shaoran was one of these people, can someone explain to me why? why would the 1 eye Shaoran make the wish to save Watanuki's life?
i wanted to know if snything happened in the Tsubasa manga, i havent been able to read that to the current release chapter
SailorYue
2006-10-11, 03:57
1 please edit your post and use a spoiler tag. that gives alot away to those that rely on del rey only. jus tstaert it after you menti0n vol 10. that way thos whove read past that point in the scanslations, know they are safe.
2 *pms you a very special link*
3 to answer your question: it has not been revealed yet. there are many theories tho...
in ch 116 or 117, when real syao goes to yuuko, she mentions that prices have been paid... "the relationship" IE: sajkura's meoies...since technicaly real syao and the clone are the same being...the price to travel has been paid. she also menionts "time" and "freedome" (she uses quotes) many seem to think that real syao WILLINGLY went to FWR, and the time and freedome is the 7 years he was held prisoner in the stasis tube.
as to WHY real syao did it... that is yet to be determined. since real syao is a descendant of Clow Reed...and Clow and yuuko made some predictions on watanuki, perhaps theres a very deep rason as th why real syao wished to prottect watanuki,.
so no new chapter next week or so i hear?
SailorYue
2006-10-11, 17:43
yes. there will be no TRC next week. but in 2 weeks there will be 3 colored scans :)
Out of curiosity, but does anyone know the intended length of the series?
SailorYue
2006-10-15, 19:25
at least 22 volumes. (its suposded to go opn longer then x is intended to be, which is 21)
SailorYue
2006-10-24, 17:47
still no chapter...but massive massive spoiles,
INCLUDING the spalsh page:
http://groups.msn.com/TsubasaReservoirChroniclesOnlineManga/ch133.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=3106
*__*
SailorYue
2006-10-26, 04:12
ch 133 and omake 7 posted to msn.
interesting chapter from i saw from the raw. i'll head on to msn then.
interesting. i doubt we'll get to hear what Fei's big plan is though.
23 pages... cool. many are revealed in this chapter... cant wait for more.
Kazu-kun
2006-10-26, 13:02
interesting chapter from i saw from the raw. i'll head on to msn then.
interesting. i doubt we'll get to hear what Fei's big plan is though.
Well, we already know of one wish that can't be granted no matter what. That is to revive someone. Thus I believe Fei Wong Reed's wish has something to do with that.
Chibiyuuto gives some insight about it here.
http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/51740.html
SailorYue
2006-10-26, 16:59
the 7th omake is cute. it has everything we've been missing since all this angst: Cuteness, randomenss and teasing ^^ PLS the simpler drawing
So Tsubasa finally ties in to xxxHOLiC! :eyespin: I wonder what the relation is?
Well, we already know of one wish that can't be granted no matter what. That is to revive someone. Thus I believe Fei Wong Reed's wish has something to do with that.
Chibiyuuto gives some insight about it here.
http://chibiyuuto.livejournal.com/51740.html
aha. thx for that.
Wouldn't becoming immortal be impossible too? :confused:
Kazu-kun
2006-10-27, 20:15
Wouldn't becoming immortal be impossible too? :confused:
But that would be too selfish, and Clamp's villain are NEVER like that. I could give you 100 examples, but I'm too lazy :heh: So I give you just one: Zagato from Magic Knight Rayearth.
At first he seemed to be a total bastard, but his real motivation was to save princess Emeraude. He was willing to destroy Cephiro in order to do that.
SailorYue
2006-10-29, 00:37
no trc next week ;_;
deaconfry
2006-11-04, 14:54
this story line is great if your going to read manga read this
deaconfry
2006-11-04, 15:19
Is Tsubasa a good series so far?
of course its a good series why do you think there are 9 pages on this means its good and how do you add your sig up here and sakuya nice web comic
deaconfry
2006-11-04, 15:33
ok but how is the clone able to weild the real syaorans kudan that question is killing me
Klashikari
2006-11-04, 15:48
Rayearth Kudan is the "clone" kudan, not real syaoran kudan. (as far as the story is told, until it is shown, real syaoran didn't visit the hanshin (yet) )
each person receive a kudan when they land in the hanshin republic, so if real syaoran comes in this country, he would probably receive another kudan if the rayearth is in use.
deaconfry
2006-11-04, 15:52
ok so it is the clone of the real kudan but is it because the real syaoran has his heart in the clone syaoran?im realy caught up on it but some of it is confusing
Klashikari
2006-11-04, 16:13
since it's a "clone"... well, it wouldn't be different from any normal human, except maybe its heart/soul.
and like you said, with the part of real syaoran heart, the clone became a human itself.
a clone isn't really an object, the fact he didn't have a heart to begin with doesn't immadiately mean it's an object/machine though it's acting just like that.
deaconfry
2006-11-04, 16:26
ok but is the clone good or evil because hes helping gather sakuras feathers thats what i dont get
deaconfry
2006-11-04, 17:56
i think that he is good but evil at the same time its confusing
Klashikari
2006-11-04, 18:01
errr... you should use the edit option... try avoiding double posting ^^'
as for the clone, he is only following the order inprinted within him.
so, giving him back its heart (that will depend on real syaoran though : would he take its place or his own, that's the question), and he will be probably a real ally.
since his creator purpose isn't really "good" and it doesn't really care about anything else but the feathers, it is really awkward to put it in a certain category.
deaconfry
2006-11-04, 18:05
ok now i get it thx and i will avoid double posting to
SailorYue
2006-11-09, 03:47
well, FWR's wish has multiple parts: 1 he wants sakura to have memories spread out thruout universe
2 he wants sakura to travel as an "empty shell" or soemthing like that. her body will ahve meories of the worlds she visits (IE: if her meory is taken away again, her body will still remember that along time ago it visited a world clled "Hanshuin"
so the ckone is collecting sakura's featehers, but more for FWR then for sakura,.
btw, up to ch 134, the recent one, is up on the msn group. enjoy!!
speaking of 134...it was a relly nice chapyeer. finaly some calmness, and when fai called sakura "My only princess" and kissing her hand, it was really precious. i heard that he said the frase in french.
i wonder what the kuro's OTHER promise is? :D
Kazu-kun
2006-11-09, 12:52
well, FWR's wish has multiple parts: 1 he wants sakura to have memories spread out thruout universe
2 he wants sakura to travel as an "empty shell" or soemthing like that. her body will ahve meories of the worlds she visits (IE: if her meory is taken away again, her body will still remember that along time ago it visited a world clled "Hanshuin"
so the ckone is collecting sakura's featehers, but more for FWR then for sakura,.
I don't think so. Without a heart he is FWR's pawn, but when he had a heart, he was collecting the feathers for Sakura's sake.
There's no reason to believe otherwise.
finally off to the next world
SailorYue
2006-11-16, 01:59
ch 135 on msn
the last page= O_____O
chapter 136.. Sakura seems scary with her serious look.
SailorYue
2006-11-23, 01:45
ch 136 posted to msn
Me thinks that Sakura may go down the path of Precia Testarossa...
SailorYue
2006-11-25, 20:15
um...who? O_o
ch 136 was an intersting, yet boring chapter. the best part was at the begining...Eagle's little narative ws mildly boring
Klashikari
2006-11-25, 20:23
um...who? O_o
Precia Testarossa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precia_Testarossa), main villain of Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_Girl_Lyrical_Nanoha)
ch 136 was an intersting, yet boring chapter. the best part was at the begining...Eagle's little narative ws mildly boring
i agree. the only interesting part was sakura's determination (though it is going to be mixed, and confusing. her change is really radical.)
but, though eagle was kinda long, i guess clamp changed the pace of the story a bit (the tokyo arc was really long), so rather than spending 2-3 chapters on this world introduction, with the world story and feather objective, they rather changed the point of view and time.
SailorYue
2006-11-29, 08:19
i doubt that a feather is the prize. they did that bfore :win a contest, win a feather... theres a more deeper meaning to why their fighing.
She's evolving so she'll be strong enough to face CSyao and make hima heart so they can be together. :) ... yeah right like that'll happen :|
Maybe I am the odd man out, but I'm all for the real syaoran. I mean, if the clone's feelings came from the original, then obviously he had some prior connection with Sakura. Also, I think its going to be revealed that the sacrifices he made were somehow to protect her anyways, while all the clone has done is vehemently fought to regain her memories. I also think something related to the price Yuuko placed on them in the begining (Sakura not remembering Syaoran) have something to do with her not remembering because it was the fake Syaoran. So in effect, this would ease what is her burden/sadness after these recent events, and at the same time still make sense as a very reasonable price for the clone to pay. One last thing, the real Syaoran has all of the memories (or well experienced all of the events) that the clone went through via the other eye, and has his heart back now, so in effect he is that Syaoran minus the programming that was added to the clone.
I agree, and I think you have a great point about the childhood memories. Frankly, I don't know who to cheer for now. Is it the real Syaoran, whose heart has now returned to him? Is it the clone Syaoran, who gew his own feelings out of the original Syaoran's heart? Have those feelings transferred to the real Syaoran, or does he only feel like a spectator between the clone and Sakura? It's still his heart though, and the clone is just a mindless robot without it. *sigh* This is too angsty. And yes, seeing Sakura in chapter 136 is painful.
I was hoping that chapter 136 would start normally, with the gang arriving on a new world. I wanted to see how the characters would interact - is Syaoran holding Sakura as they arrive? Do Kurogane and Fye talk at all?
And one last question ... why is the clone collecting the feathers alone? Fei Wong's stated goal isn't the feathers themselves, but having Sakura travel to get the feathers? Why create a clone of Syaoran with that mission in the first place? And why is it doing it alone now?
RurouniJones
2007-01-04, 23:11
Hello all.
Does anyone know what the latest volumes of the Tsubasa Resevoir Chronicle manga are out in Japan?
I am curious because everywhere I looked online appears to say that the current volume is 18 and the official english translations appear to be catching up fast (around Volume 11-12 if I remember correctly).
Basically I am wondering if 18 is the "Current backlog" caught up with and then we will have to wait for the next one to be released in Japan then translated.
Gracias
RJ
White Manju Bun
2007-01-05, 02:20
omg I just read vol 16 and 17 and...
oh my gawd!!! I wont go into what Im sure has already been discussed but the real and fake Syaoran confuse the heck outta me x_x
Also Fai nearly dying....I almost cired. Kurogane ftw in that situation
Kenji_Chaos
2007-01-07, 08:09
I agree, and I think you have a great point about the childhood memories. Frankly, I don't know who to cheer for now. Is it the real Syaoran, whose heart has now returned to him? Is it the clone Syaoran, who gew his own feelings out of the original Syaoran's heart? Have those feelings transferred to the real Syaoran, or does he only feel like a spectator between the clone and Sakura? It's still his heart though, and the clone is just a mindless robot without it. *sigh* This is too angsty. And yes, seeing Sakura in chapter 136 is painful.
I was hoping that chapter 136 would start normally, with the gang arriving on a new world. I wanted to see how the characters would interact - is Syaoran holding Sakura as they arrive? Do Kurogane and Fye talk at all?
And one last question ... why is the clone collecting the feathers alone? Fei Wong's stated goal isn't the feathers themselves, but having Sakura travel to get the feathers? Why create a clone of Syaoran with that mission in the first place? And why is it doing it alone now?
according to the real syaoran when he speaks to the clone one, he said that the feelings for sakura comes from his(clone) hearts..however in my opinion i think it also come from the real syaoran heart as well..since the chapter after that we see that the reason he is joining is to protect sakura and in certain scenes we can see that when both of them look at each other it seems that the real syaoran has feelings for her at the same time feeling guilty...and in the latest chapter sakura's father was actually to the real syaoran regarding something and it seems like the next chapter might be showing us more stuff regarding the real syaoran and sakura (hopefully)
i think that the creation of the clone syaoran is to collect the feathers faster and maybe for some other reasons like having him to fight for fei wong; since it is indeed clone from the real syaoran and the real syaoran itself have a potential strong power...
all i can say CLAMP might merge both syaoran together at the end...or they might kill off either one of them
I agree with Kenji Chaos that CLAMP might end up merging the two syaorans because, if anyone has been keeping up with xxxholic, yuko mentions that "what must exist as one is now two". So, to return to the original, normal state, only one must exist.
Moreover, now that I have read the latest chapters of xxxholic and tsubasa, both stories' pace are picking up and they now seem very very related.
Examples and questions I have:
1. When Watasuki almost died, the price for his recovery was paided by THREE people. One of them was the real Syaoran who prepaid his price so Watasuki will not "disappear". There are alot to the real Syaoran's story that is unknown...he seems to know a lot more about what is going on but not telling anyone....
2. xxxholic restates constantly that Watasuki's existence is "rarest" of all things and currently in volume 10, everyone is working their hardest. Both Mokonas are not happy but trying to do their separate jobs. Yuko's two kids, Maru and Moro, are constantly sleeping to keep Yuko's shop--place for what is to happen-- up "because they love watanuki". Yuko even said "can't let it [shop] break just yet". I am almost getting the feeling Watanuki will play a very very important role, maybe an even more important role than sakura or syaoran, in the outcome for both stories. Everything is connected to him and everything is done for him.
I am glad that both stories' pace is really picking up and is building alot of suspense for what seem to be the beginning of the end. I really can't wait see how CLAMP will merge the two stories because both are heading toward the same goal: battling against FWR.
Does anyone have an idea of why Watanuki is important to Tsuabasa? Yuko says that his surname has a special significance. Maybe that will give a clue of how everything will turn out.
Areguzanda
2007-01-14, 18:17
this may not be the right place to ask but:
Tsubasa Chronicle Anime:
2 seasons and 1 movie right?
but it really don't have an ending, so will there be an 3. season?
am I right when I say that the Manga is not finished?
didn't know where to ask this so I'm asking it here. sry about that.
Kisuke06
2007-01-14, 19:07
this may not be the right place to ask but:
Tsubasa Chronicle Anime:
2 seasons and 1 movie right?
but it really don't have an ending, so will there be an 3. season?
am I right when I say that the Manga is not finished?
didn't know where to ask this so I'm asking it here. sry about that.
Yes, Tsubasa has currently 2 seasons and 1 movie. It will be 3 seasons long. And the manga is still on going.
Areguzanda
2007-01-15, 03:21
Yes, Tsubasa has currently 2 seasons and 1 movie. It will be 3 seasons long. And the manga is still on going.
thanx for the answer :D
Wow,I wonder what time will be the 3 season.I only manage to see the 2nd season insist of 1st season had neeb licence.(T.T)What is the lastest volume of it's manga?I will go and collect it tomorrow at the books store.
White Manju Bun
2007-01-20, 12:33
Please tell me someone has read chap 140
OMG the King has awakened! The look on Fai's face was brilliant. Man I kept wondering when this was gonna come back to haunt Fai and it seems its finally happened
M L Monster
2007-01-23, 08:07
Airing of Season 3 is highly impossible due to NHK(the channel which shows Tsubasa) has disapproval of airing gory scenes in their shows.
The new arc of the manga is disappointing. It's not as interesting as before and I can't say that I really like Sakura's new personality. The latest cliffhanger in Chapter 142 is shocking:
So Sakura is not concentrated on winning the feather now? But I would think she has become friends with Fai, Kuro, and Mokona by now so why does she want to travel alone? :(
Kazu-kun
2007-02-11, 23:35
So you don't like the story because now it has better and more interesting twists, and more complex character development?? Would you prefer the same plane and non-progresing storyline the manga has in its first ten volumes?
And about Sakura in chapter 142
Did you seriously believe she was still interesting in findind the feathers after what happened to Syaoran? please, we're talking about the person she loves here!
She want to travel alone because of two reasons:
1) She can't bear seeing R.Syaron because he's to much like Syaoran, yet he's not. No matter if R.Syaoran is the the original, or how much like Syaoran he is; he's not the person who grew with her since they were children (though she doesn't remember that, but it doesn't matter because her body does remember, as stated by Mokona once), he's not the one who swore to get her feathers back when she was dying, and he's not the one she has come to love during the travel (she has fallen in love with this guy not once but twice!!). So she can't take it anymore.
2) Since she doesn't care about the feathers anymore she no longer needs Mokona nor Fay; she doesn't really need any help to go looking for Syaoran. Yes, this is really selfish of her. Who cares? Syaoran is more importan to her than anyone else. Also this is now her travel; she doesn't want drag the gang with her because is something she has to do by herself.
All these new developments make her a much more complex (real) character. It's really interesting.
It does have interesting twists but I meant that the new arc has nothing but chess matches so far. It's kind of getting boring to me. :( I think the next chapter might be interesting to learn more about Sakura's decision and how the gang might react to it, but too bad there's still one more match.
asutedjo909
2007-02-13, 18:58
i like xfunx comment about these 2 mangas. yes, Clamp has made a real great and amazing job by making these 2 completely different manga together and twisted. these kind of thing can be seen as the first one in the history of manga development? i dont know if there is any manga or manga-ka that is bold enough like clamp to make this kind of development and fresh new way of publishing their story. i dont think there is any manga like this, completing each other and we reader, just becomes like in 2 different world, at the same time. I bet if we want to know and understand the full story and meaning of the story, readers have to read and follow both XXXHolic and Tsubasa Reservoir. just by reading one of them wont do enough.
right now i am in chapter 142 tsubasa and and chapter 128 XXXholic. in the book, they are developing accordingly. nice! XXXHolic becomes more clear and we can see how Watanuki becomes more and more significant.
for Tsubasa Resevoir, the story becomes darker and darker since the clash of the 2 syaorans. 3rd season of the anime will be the darker in my opinion and expectation if we can see from the manga development. i think this is the climax of the 2 stories. i can say (in my opinion) that XXXholic and tsubasa reservoir are one single best achievement and best ever-created manga that Clamp ever made^^
i will wait patiently for the story development. the darker tsubasa and more serious XXXholic.
what u guys expect from Watanuki's role here?^^ just want to know.
As For Tsubasa.... Haven't really watch the 2nd Season yet... But the manga that I stopped at currently is about the 2nd syaoran going to travel... I kinda like his reply to the witch of Dimension ...
".... Someday I will get back all the things that I had given to you ..." ;)
majesticlove
2007-03-18, 09:36
whew, I have finished upto chapter 146. Quite displeased with sakura's character now though. I feel rather sad for syaoran expecially when sakura shook off his hand in the recent chapters. :(
I have one question though, since the clone syaoran is not a human being as he was "made," how was it possible that he was able to grow from a child to a teenager?:rolleyes:
Klashikari
2007-03-18, 09:50
Well... a clone is always artificial, but it remains a living being.
so it isn't really surprising it can age.
if we assume that there is a magic powerful enough to create a clone, it should be strong enough to be an exact replica of the original object/living being and so, it should have the same "functions".
Bronwen Stx
2007-04-06, 19:06
First of all I'm surprised that no one here is getting all O________________O Oh fucking god with the latest chapter.
I'm sure everyone will join soon. ^___^
I seriously do not know what just happened. :twitch:
Bronwen Stx
2007-04-06, 19:19
I seriously do not know what just happened. :twitch:
:twitch: Me too. I'm totally incoherent. CLAMP screwing with us once again. They lead us to this very safe and happy place and then the next thing you know, this happens.
"The future can be changed." - Sakura
That sounds like X. :heh: I think the series will become even more entertaining from here on.
Bronwen Stx
2007-04-06, 21:35
"The future can be changed." - Sakura
That sounds like X. :heh: I think the series will become even more entertaining from here on.
:D :D :D What's a CLAMP manga without major references to X?
Totally agree. I vote for Fai for having the most fucked up history that's for sure. :heh:
I seriously do not know what just happened. :twitch:
I agree :twitch:
Haven't had a post in this thread for a while. Anyone here still keeping up with the latest manga chapters? It's all becoming quite interesting. I've recently caught up.
I haven't read for a while so I was really surprised with Sakura's...serious-ness. I thought it was interesting how Fay stuck with Sakura mostly (and consulted/comforted her) while Kurogane had that role for Syaoran. I'm now waiting for some explanation on Kurogane's purpose in the entire plotline. Besides having his mother killed, he has no connection. Besides being the only character who has remained stable throughout the story, a consultant to the others and the person who keeps Fay from committing suicide several times in the story.
And yeah, Fay's suicide thing is getting a bit old. I mean I thought it was weird how one moment he is about to stab or behead himself or do something to himself with that sword and the next moment he's like... "I can't die yet". T.T
I'm a bit lazy but I wanna check if the anime animated that Yuuko wasn't getting wet in the rain. Or whether the begining of the manga gave any indication of this. Was the whole... Yuuko was in a different space which is why Fay didn't try to kill her something CLAMP just made up or something planned from day one.
Fay's past was highly anticipated by the fans so I guess it didn't disappoint. Since it's still fairly incomplete (still dunno who Fay exactly is and his relations to Ashura) but we got some interesting bits already. He was locked up cause of his power, to get out he got a curse that causes him to murder whoever has more magic. Has a second curse that works in Ceres but we dunno what.
Hmmm.... I can't really remember. But in the second season of the anime series, in the final filler arc, didn't that guy say he was stronger then Fay in magic? Inconsistency now! Fay should of killed him. :D :D
Kinny Riddle
2007-05-23, 08:26
Edit: Posted in wrong section. Please delete.
Would be wise to use spoiler tags. For people who follow US releases who wander upon this thread.
As for your question...
I thought about that as well. I consider it now an anime plot hole caused by Bee Train. This is what happens when you have two groups of people behind supposedly what is the same story. I guess CLAMP failed to inform Bee Train that they couldn't have an individual approach Fay that had greater power then him.
And I didn't understand the Sakura, body, soul and Chi thing either. I just overlooked it. :heh:
finalnight
2007-07-11, 04:07
Sakura right now reminds me of Sakura from Naruto, whereas Naruto Sakura is hung up on Sasuke and "rescuing" him, Tsubasa Sakura is hung up on Clone Syaoran and "rescuing" him. Naruto Sakura blew off and used Naruto, and Tsubasa Sakura blew off and used Real Syaoran.
syaoron headache now has something to do with being in celes and watanuki. too much unclear plot.
Kenji_Chaos
2007-07-18, 10:07
syaoron headache now has something to do with being in celes and watanuki. too much unclear plot.
yeah i was wondering that too
gosh they should just dump the damn clone lolz
the real one is so much more stronger
yes, the real one is a lot stronger. Though they haven't show the potential of the clone, except the ruthless side. The real syaoran is a magic user and he was supposed to be to be killed by Yui (the "fai" that travel with them) from the first curse. But Sakura prevented that. Nevertheless, that would show that real syaoran is a both a warrior as well as a magician.
-KarumA-
2007-07-23, 09:55
syaoron headache now has something to do with being in celes and watanuki. too much unclear plot.
apperantly something about Watanuki's date of birth has to do with it, Sakura, Syaouran and Watanuki share the same b-day date
Watanuki met Syaoran when he was visiting Sakura in his dream world again, however he only saw him right after realising that he couldnt remember his parents names
[spoiler=strange pin point that was pointed out in xxxholic about Syaoran's passing out and headaches] apperantly something about Watanuki's date of birth has to do with it, Sakura, Syaouran and Watanuki share the same b-day date
Yes, there's something connected betweeb Sakura, Syaoran and Watanuki. In fact syaoran had paid for the price to keep watanuki alive in xxxholics. In tsubasa, it was mentioned that syaoran had paid price for a number of things as well.
I heard that chapter 161 would feature watanuki and syaoran as the cover page. That would certainly mean watanuki is a vital component in the Tsubasa chronicle story. Watanuki has been playing cameo role so far until recent chapters that suggest syaoran paid the price, watanuki met sakura in dreams and watanuki & syaoran seem connected.
LolitaDecay
2007-07-24, 08:31
I love the manga for Tsubasa but I have to say I found the anime rather dissapointing, I didn't like the style...
But anyway Tsubasa is another one of those great creations by CLAMP, they never cease to amaze me. I haven't read all the manga yet so I'm not quite up to date with the story. I only have another 30 or so chapters to go ;]
-KarumA-
2007-07-26, 04:12
Yes, there's something connected betweeb Sakura, Syaoran and Watanuki. In fact syaoran had paid for the price to keep watanuki alive in xxxholics. In tsubasa, it was mentioned that syaoran had paid price for a number of things as well.
I heard that chapter 161 would feature watanuki and syaoran as the cover page. That would certainly mean watanuki is a vital component in the Tsubasa chronicle story. Watanuki has been playing cameo role so far until recent chapters that suggest syaoran paid the price, watanuki met sakura in dreams and watanuki & syaoran seem connected.
yes ever since that window accident i had a feeling there was more going on, its pretty strange..
also i still believe that Clow and Yuuko play a role with Watanuki, the part where he cant remember his parents names proves that to me, i still think he is the son of Yuuko and Clow, it always bothered me that Watanuki reminded me of clow
and yes Watanuki and Syaoran share the 161 cover, got a scan right here
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3267/01an7.th.png (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01an7.png)
i still believe that Clow and Yuuko play a role with Watanuki, the part where he cant remember his parents names proves that to me, i still think he is the son of Yuuko and Clow, it always bothered me that Watanuki reminded me of clow
I dont think so, if that's the case, that would make watanuki becoming sakura's sister. But certainly, I do think Clow and Yuuko have planned ahead with Watanuki's fate. The whole forgotten parents name sure make me curious of its significance in xxxholics.
heard that there'll be several weeks of break after 162, so hoping next week we wont end in huge cliffhanger.
Luminisk
2007-07-26, 10:32
Only and Sakura and Watanuki really shares a birthday, the cloned Syoaran couldn't remember his own so Sakura suggested that they share one.
Now I'm following the wording of the scanlation here, in those instances its said that Syoaran (real) paid the price so that Watanuki would not 'disappear' not 'die'; this sort of made me feel like Watanuki isn't real like was artificially created somehow. When Watanuki tried to remember his parent's name we fall into the dream world clasping his left eye, then Syoaran appeared clasping his left eye also (I'm very aware of CLAMP's eye fetish), and again the translation says don't disappear.
JagdPanther
2007-08-01, 09:19
*whew*
Just read chapters 100-161 the past two days to catch up with the story after finishing the anime and I have got to say that this is a really interesting and in-depth story.
I love it.
I have some questions about the last few chapters, though:
How, exactly, did "Fai" choose the real Fai to die? I get that Fei Wong Reed asked them both at the same time who they wanted to be saved, but it seemed like when Fai said "save Yuui" that he was killed before Yuui could respond.
Or am I just confused? Was Yuui actually thinking "save me" and Fei Wong read his mind?
Just kinda confused as to how the real Fai was chosen.
Thanks! ^_^
-KarumA-
2007-08-02, 05:03
heard that there'll be several weeks of break after 162, so hoping next week we wont end in huge cliffhanger.
yep next release will be 22 august, thatll take a while :)
I'm just so disappointed that they took 5-6 chapters just on Yui history and basically no current development. Gee..
August 22..Long time. :(
Sadly, Theres rumours that a main character is going to die. I actually believe..
<Spoiler for possible ending>
That Kurogane and Fay are going to get killed off leaving the evil and normal Syaoran and Sakura. This manga gets more confusing as it goes so this is just a guess. :heh: I also think that Sakura will infact remember Syaoran in the end (Maybe chapter 334? Kidding.)
aki/kaze/shi
2007-08-08, 15:15
I only own three manga of it, my friend owns all that is published in English. So, I just get to borrow it whenever I like. But I haven't yet...(I can't remember how many are in English now...13? Plus the character guide....She has it all, but I have the Mokona. She has the DVD English that gave me headache. No, not the voices, it was just how loud she had it. I didn't mind the voices.*it was turned low, but hurt my hearing*)
I shall buy her....all the Japanese manga. Which I couldn't do, maybe in two years~If I go to Ontario with her.^^
Awright! Operation:Wait till School Begins to still Akane-chan's manga Part A.;) I love my weirdo plans to steal her manga.*basically has just about maybe the same amount of manga, but of different series*I steal Tsubasa and Ouran the most.
Now, I just have to wait till school begins, and ask for it. I can take xxxHOLiC from the city library, but from my tactics of not explaining to my mother bout the "xxx" part, I'm not allowed to read or watch it. Sad, really. I had to sneak the last couple episodes. He he..
And I'd buy it if they had vol.4 or 5 near me!!
I've only read...the first 3 volumes of this, I think? But I do like it. The drawings of the fight scenes are a little hard to look at sometimes, since they tend to get a bit crazy, but I really like the series. I really hate the price Syaoran and Sakura have to pay to get back to their own world. It's just too sad. :[
ellifeedn
2007-08-19, 22:23
Ya want to know something? I think there's a reason why the four main characters paid Yuko what she requested in the beginning in order to travel through demensions and it wasn't just because it was precious or something to each person.
For (clone) Syaoran and Sakura they gave up their relationship and it was so that Sakura wouldn't feel too hurt when the clone reverts into his true persona and betrays them, or something among those lines.
For Fai he gave up his tattoo and maybe it was done so that his magic could grow and the curse wouldn't activate. (Note: I think the curse was placed on him in the first place just so that the real Syaoran would get killed. Just a thought.)
For Kurogane, he gave up his sword.... I got nothing for him I admit:heh:, but there probably is a reason.
-KarumA-
2007-08-24, 03:26
just read the latest chapter nyuuuhhh... must read next to see what happens >.<
Kuro-chan got hurt T-T
just read the latest chapter nyuuuhhh... must read next to see what happens >.<
Kuro-chan got hurt T-T
from the looks of it, quite serious. quite a big one
-KarumA-
2007-08-24, 09:05
from the looks of it, quite serious. quite a big one
NOOOOOOOO Kuro-chan! :(
EDIT: 164 is out whooo!
ellifeedn
2007-10-14, 09:14
I read ch 168 recently and it seems that this series and xxxHolic are coming closer to being one series. I don't know if xxxHolic is ending, so someone tell me.
I thought of something: Syaoran and Wantanuki are both connected and alike, could the same be said for Sakura and Himawari? I mean, both male characters have feelings for their respective female counterparts while both female characters are, sadly, ambiguous to the feelings of their respective male counterparts and both female characters have some sort of luck (Sakura had unnaturally good luck while Himawari caused bad luck to those around her).
I know this is not definite proof, but here's to thinking outside the box.
i own some of the manga. i want to read more of it but it will take me awhile to be caught up.
Leon_Lelouch
2007-11-12, 02:29
Just read this until they met up with Kamui and friends......
Mmmm..... So..... how many chapters have been out?
Has Syaoran left Sakura and the others to search Sakura's feather alone?
Klashikari
2007-11-12, 05:52
Currently, the manga is at chapter 172.
as for your second question, you should keep going, things are more complicated than that.
more complicated but definitely more interesting than finding feathers
ellifeedn
2007-11-12, 08:21
If anyone has been reading recent chapters, did you see the reference to X (another manga by CLAMP)?
yah, cause apparently there's a close link between watanuki and syaoran. Syaoran himself has affirmed this during his encounter with watanuki in dream
Chapter 174... one of the best chapter!
solarknight123
2007-11-21, 12:45
Chapter 174... one of the best chapter!
I so agree with ya!:D I wonder if The "real" shaoran (sorry if i mispelled it) will kill the clone w/o sakura interfering?
beamknight87
2007-11-21, 16:57
It's Syaoran vs Syaoran... again, man I waited a lot for this rematch ^^
Takuto19
2007-11-21, 19:32
Just finished reading chapter 174, and i can't wait for next weeks now, not entirely sure who i want to win lol, the clone who's been in the manga since the beggining with them all, but is not the person he used to be, or the real one who isn't really attached to Sakura for a nice romance story as the clone is.
Ahh, too tough a choice lol.
solarknight123
2007-11-22, 00:06
I just hope something like sakura telling them not to fight and R-shaoran listens and gets injured by the clone happens again
Kazu-kun
2007-11-22, 00:50
I just hope something like sakura telling them not to fight and R-shaoran listens and gets injured by the clone happens again
You do realize the same thing happening again would mean Clamp sucks at storytelling, don't you? Let's hope the Clamp's girls will pull out a new development instead.
Klashikari
2007-11-22, 00:53
I concur.
I hope R-Shaolan will actually follow what he claimed, as he admitted the clone was also part of himself (not only in that chapter).
There might be a plan, because i would hardly see him obliterating the clone.
That said, I hope they won't fuse, or it will be VERY corny.
a little off topic: please, don't forget to use spoiler tags, as not everyone is following the newly released chapters.
solarknight123
2007-11-22, 02:23
You do realize the same thing happening again would mean Clamp sucks at storytelling, don't you? Let's hope the Clamp's girls will pull out a new development instead.
Yeah, knowing Clamp, their find some good shocking development. To be honest
I never saw the whole revalations about the 2 shaorans coming from a mile away and i'm still shocked to this day. Not just that but "fai stabbing sakura", fai's past and kurogane losing his arm were good shockers too. So i guess i'm not that worried about clamp. I sure they'll find something good to put in.
but then... chapter 175 will be the following week instead of next week.. :(
finalnight
2007-12-05, 11:15
It looked like Real Syaoran got owned in this chapter. Plus Fuuma and Seshirou mentioned that Clone Syaoron could end up stronger than Fai with BOTH his eyes.
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