View Full Version : [Manga]Who is the "king" ?
Ero-Senn1n
2006-10-19, 17:17
Who is Asuma talking about, the one who has to be protected from akatsuki at all costs.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Burger_king_1-1-.jpg
Nightengale
2006-10-19, 17:39
Probably the future of Konoha, as in the ones who will become Hokage, not the Hokage.
Probably Naruto.
Based on the logical flow, the village has always been the one to be protected at all costs. If King has always been there, since the establishment of the village, then it most probably refers to the village.
But, there is one thing strange, Asuma, before, told Shikamaru that Hokage is not the King, but just before his death, Shikamaru's response to his King-related information included, "I told you.".
i believe it would be the dream and the villiage of konoha, once that is gone its game over hokage would be the queen in the game of chess in my opinion
Who is Asuma talking about, the one who has to be protected from akatsuki at all costs.
well naruto is the only person they want, I think (and hoping) its him
LoOnatick
2006-10-20, 01:19
Theres a high possibility it's Naruto. That's pretty much the only one Akatsuki wants (The Kyuubi).
Ichimaru
2006-10-20, 03:10
that theory is wrong, if naruto is the king, then wouldnt orochimaru shouldve killed him at first sight he met him....since he has a shit with konoha....
i doubt naruto is king, it has to be someone else....
In my opinion, the "King" is the People of Konoha from the smallest to the biggest to the bravest and the cowardice.
The reason I say his is because, in the recent Manga chapter's Asuma was reminiscing the death of the 3rd while saying to him self "I Finally Understand" If i remember correctly the 3rd was always talking about loving/protecting the people of the village because they are his "Family".
He also says HE, him self is a sacrificial peice, and Shika is a Knight! (Put the game and RL together) you get "protector's" of what? The King.
The King can't be Hokage/is Not, Asuma already mentioned that to Shika when Shika guessed if it was the Hokage. (Asuma used to think it was) so that only leaves these options.
The People Of Konoha
People Important To You
Your Family, Your loved ones (Wife, G/F)
People you Want To Protect
(The last 3 could be put together)
So, it sort of makes sence because... Whats a Hokage without his Villege and His People? Goodbye Village and Its People = -> Goodbye Hokage = -> Goodbye Ninjas (Asuma, Shika, Sacrificial Peice, Knight) -> Nothing.
ˆ-ˆ Of course I could be 100% Wrong! :D <3
Could also be.. the "Children" >.>; more like... your.., our children. Kurenai is pregnant with Asuma's baby BAHAH)
The King is an interesting concept.
Not all kings are benevolent and nice individuals. Some are so evil that their people are just too scared to do anything other than what the king dictates. The king is noy a sacrificial piece. If you are dumb enough to risk your king in a chess game, you still lose regardless of whatever other pieces you have on the board.
Ild personally say the king is Kyuubi.
Konoha cannot afford to let Kyuubi fall into the wrong hands. There would be a very serious problem (Akatsuki / full unleash) if the Kyuubi piece was lost either way.
I think it's Naruto. Not because of Kyuubi, but because he must be linked somehow to The Fourth and maybe be part of Konoha's secrets.
Konoha didn't have Kyuubi before Yondaime sama sealed him inside Naruto and still was the biggest military power in the Narutoverse.
Them having a jinchûriki containing Kyuubi is actually some kind of unexpected asset for their village. It's the first time someone caught it. Before it just brought death & destruction and then vanished again for decades.
Ichimaru
2006-10-20, 09:17
konoha can be king, if that goes down ,so does other countries and hidden villages....
tramadrama
2006-10-20, 10:12
The King could be the spirit of Konoha, but I'd find it more interesting if the King was a woman! It would be one hell of a curveball. The way Kurenai was shown throughout the Akatsuki fight these past couple of chapters seems to be a clue. Maybe Kurenai is pregnant and Konohamaru isn't in good lineage compared to this child. For instance, if Asuma was the oldest child, then naturally, his first offspring would be next in line. But I think the King has something to do with Kurenai.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/72/Burger_king_1-1-.jpg
ROFL
/agreed.
Anyways, i think the king he is referring to is definitely Naruto. He is the last and final Demon to be collected. The Akatsuki are not currently interested in Konoha, or any other country. They are interested in the capture of all the tailed demons, therefor i guess the final piece in their collection can be considered the "king", just as the last piece you collect in chess is the king.
Also plot would dictate shikamaru would protect Naruto, not any other sealed demon, since it is his friend, and hes the main character =p.
Sabaku Kyu
2006-10-20, 11:42
I'm pretty sure he's talking about Naruto because of the Kyuubi. That answer seems too obvious to us as readers, but nobody in the story really realizes Naruto's true potential except, Kakashi (probably Gai as well), Yamato, Tsunade, Jiraiya, Oro, Kabuto and Akatsuki. Sasuke, Sakura and Sai are the only ones from Naruto's generation who know he contains the Kyuubi. The rest of the village knows that Naruto holds the Kyuubi but they don't realize how important he is or what's at stake if he's captured by Akatsuki.
This may sound farfetched but it's a theory;
Asuma ranks Shika as a Knight because he is close to Naruto and ranks himself as an sacrifical piece because he don't have a connection with Naruto as much as Shika does.
Mr. Johnny 5
2006-10-20, 14:58
It seems everyone (so far) payed enough attention and didnt vote for Tsunade.
Since he already mentioned that it isnt the hokage...
I'm going to go with Naruto, nothing to do with Kyuubi for the obvious reasons.
vietpimp
2006-10-20, 15:07
Its prolly Naruto since if he dies maybe Kyuubi would get released and would destroy Konoha for trapping him. If he falls into the hands of Akatsuki then Kyuubi would be released which in turns be the end as well.
Tsunade wouldn't be the king since she is the queen :P. Most powerful piece that you have at your disposal. I can't think of anyone else besides naruto that would fit the bill to be the king.
Mr. Johnny 5
2006-10-20, 15:07
I thought you would mention Sasuke...anyway i see that my suggestion or thought is part of the poll which is: The village Konoha, the supreme piece, the most important thing...
Without it...everyone is doomed and everyone (soldiers, pawns, knights) on the side of the king loses (;) Konoha)
Sabaku Kyu
2006-10-20, 15:15
Yeah, but if you were to relate it to the shogi analogy Konoha would be the entire board (well, one side of the board) while the individuals in the village are the pieces. We already know that Tsunade as Hokage is not the king. That pretty much leaves you with Naruto as he is the "piece" that Akatsuki (the opposing team) is trying to capture.
Ero-Senn1n
2006-10-20, 15:57
Yeah, but if you were to relate it to the shogi analogy Konoha would be the entire board (well, one side of the board) while the individuals in the village are the pieces. We already know that Tsunade as Hokage is not the king. That pretty much leaves you with Naruto as he is the "piece" that Akatsuki (the opposing team) is trying to capture.
I added the village because it's quite obvious that if akatsuki have the power of all demons they can do anything they want. However the current world order is against them, so a logical first step from them would be to destroy the 5 big villages which are the main power of the current order, so that they can build their rule, which probably makes them also feudal lords. As we know currently the world is not some ninja dictatorship, it seems that the political power is in the hands of normal people. Some kind of feudal utopia. People with special powers are ruled by villages and villages ruled by normal people, so that the ninja powers are not used by individuals to have their rule over people and kill lot of people in nonsense fights.
In this logic Naruto is only one more piece, simply the container of Kyuubi, only one of the other 9, and the demons only tools to destroy Konoha and also the other villages, therefore the final opponent of akatsuki would be Konoha.
However the "king" piece in chess is quite weak, others defend it (i don't know for shogi however, maybe it's a strong piece there) and Naruto is the one who Konoha is defending, thus Konoha being the shogi army, with Shika and Asuma as pieces in that army. If shogi is like chess than Naruto is the weak king piece and the army which defends it are all the konoha ninja.
I voted for Naruto (because of himself) after reading this chapter: when Asuma whispers to Shika the name of the "king" Shika looks quite surprised. And i think if Asuma said it is the village than Shika would not be surprised, as i think it was the obvious answer. I think that even if Asuma did not say Naruto's name, he most likely said the name of a person who is known by Shikamaru, not some other entity.
tramadrama
2006-10-20, 19:32
I added the village because it's quite obvious that if akatsuki have the power of all demons they can do anything they want. However the current world order is against them, so a logical first step from them would be to destroy the 5 big villages which are the main power of the current order, so that they can build their rule, which probably makes them also feudal lords. As we know currently the world is not some ninja dictatorship, it seems that the political power is in the hands of normal people. Some kind of feudal utopia. People with special powers are ruled by villages and villages ruled by normal people, so that the ninja powers are not used by individuals to have their rule over people and kill lot of people in nonsense fights.
In this logic Naruto is only one more piece, simply the container of Kyuubi, only one of the other 9, and the demons only tools to destroy Konoha and also the other villages, therefore the final opponent of akatsuki would be Konoha.
However the "king" piece in chess is quite weak, others defend it (i don't know for shogi however, maybe it's a strong piece there) and Naruto is the one who Konoha is defending, thus Konoha being the shogi army, with Shika and Asuma as pieces in that army. If shogi is like chess than Naruto is the weak king piece and the army which defends it are all the konoha ninja.
I voted for Naruto (because of himself) after reading this chapter: when Asuma whispers to Shika the name of the "king" Shika looks quite surprised. And i think if Asuma said it is the village than Shika would not be surprised, as i think it was the obvious answer. I think that even if Asuma did not say Naruto's name, he most likely said the name of a person who is known by Shikamaru, not some other entity.
When I finally read the translation for 328, you can see Shik's reaction almost as if he was referring to when Asuma helped Naruto on training. So, I am totally clueless. But the plot's been obvious nowadays, so Naruto is probably correct.
Luminion Lancer
2006-10-20, 19:41
When I finally read the translation for 328, you can see Shik's reaction almost as if he was referring to when Asuma helped Naruto on training. So, I am totally clueless. But the plot's been obvious nowadays, so Naruto is probably correct.
-Maybe and maybe not. You won't know who or what it is unil it is actually stated in black and white (or at the very least implied).
In chapter 316 where they're talking about the king piece, Asuma says if he were to put a shougi piece to every Konoha shinobi .. so i don't think it's the village because of that.
cheese4u
2006-10-20, 23:43
I'm guessing it's Naruto for several reasons.
1. He's the main freakin character:D
2. Based on Shikamaru's reaction I don't think anyone else would've been too much of a shock to Shika. But he seemed pretty shocked by who or whatever Asuma said to him.
3. As stated earlier, Kyuubi is the only thing Akatsuki is after, and of course Naruto is the container of Kyuubi.
4. Naruto himself may have some kind of ability or maybe it just the influence that he's had on so many people. Not to mention his accomplishments.
a.) defeated Kiba without Kyuubi
b.) defeated Neji the genius
c.) Even though he didn't become a chuunin, he officialy went further than anyone in the chuunin exam.
d.) The first to defeat a fully transformed Jinchuuriki (gaara)
e.) Mastered an s-class jutsu in less than a week (technically)
f.) Dedicated his whole life to saving a douchebag (Sasuke)
I could be wrong though, but at this point to me it seems obvious he's talking about Naruto.
e.) Mastered an s-class jutsu in less than a week (technically)
it's A rank, not S class. What you mean is Rasengan and it wasn't mastered in one week. Naruto was already training for 3 weeks before meeting tsunade on that 3 step regimen:eyespin:
No Rasengan is an S-rank jutsu, even kakashi called it that if i remember correctly.
icemaster143
2006-10-21, 01:11
In the early chapter when discribing the 4th the 3rd (in the translation I've read) said the he inherited the Will of Fire and now we find out that Asuma is part of some fire temple guardians. Perhaps the next in line to inherit this will is the king.
Mr. Johnny 5
2006-10-21, 04:28
No Rasengan is an S-rank jutsu, even kakashi called it that if i remember correctly.
Didnt Jiraiya clearly said that Rasengan was an A-rank jutsu... when Naruto was training with Rasengan...
f.) Dedicated his whole life to saving a douchebag (Sasuke)
That douche needs die right now.
sasuke is the queen and naruto is the king
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6774/futuredp3.jpg
Naruto seems more like the uke on that pic ^^'
No Rasengan is an S-rank jutsu, even kakashi called it that if i remember correctly.
I believe he is talking about the one naruto is doing now would be a S-rank jutsu, the normal Rasengan which took him a month to learn is an A-rank jutsu
Because of the nature element being hard to form and manipulate and that no one or close to no one has done it is going to make this jutsu a Super S-rank because of the difficulty
cheese4u
2006-10-21, 11:41
it's A rank, not S class. What you mean is Rasengan and it wasn't mastered in one week. Naruto was already training for 3 weeks before meeting tsunade on that 3 step regimen:eyespin:
I know captain kangaroo, that why I said technically.
Half Demon
2006-10-21, 12:46
i think the king is asuma son.. or may be kurenai is pregnant..
Mr. Johnny 5
2006-10-21, 12:57
i think the king is asuma son.. or may be kurenai is pregnant..
No...definetly not that...what would make Asuma's son...the most important piece within the Fire Country?
A King is something or someone who has already got the crown not someone who will receive a crown or still has to receive one.
i think this is a silly topic.
everyone has his/her own opinion about the king.but no one knows anything. only shikamaru nows it for now...
i hate silly topics like:
who is the king
sais brother
kakuzu bla bla
raikages hair
and others...which we dont know shit...
Last_Hope
2006-10-21, 14:12
My bet is that the king is Naruto, not because Asuma likes Naruto but because they cannot afford to let the Kyuubi fall into the hands of Akatsuki.
Perhaps that is why, as some people complained about it, Kakashi, Yamato and Naruto didn´t arrive as the backup or was involved in the search this time.
i think this is a silly topic.
everyone has his/her own opinion about the king.but no one knows anything. only shikamaru nows it for now...
i hate silly topics like:
who is the king
sais brother
kakuzu bla bla
raikages hair
and others...which we dont know shit...
Especially the bs "omfg leader = yf despite his soul is sealed away WHICH IS THE BASIS OF THE SHOW. >_>
Seriously guys, lets discuss what we can logically deduce, not the identity of mysterious characters who we have only seen 1/4 of their face ...
its not even 1/4 its like 1/6
i dont understand the logic of people who love to discuss endlessly about nothing given about topics...
cheese4u
2006-10-21, 14:41
Especially the bs "omfg leader = yf despite his soul is sealed away WHICH IS THE BASIS OF THE SHOW. >_>
Seriously guys, lets discuss what we can logically deduce, not the identity of mysterious characters who we have only seen 1/4 of their face ...
You two say you hate it when someone posts things that haven't happened yet. Well I hate it when someone comes on to other peoples threads just to slam it. If you don't like it then don't respond to it, it's that simple. This is anime suki not douchebag central.
You two say you hate it when someone posts things that haven't happened yet. Well I hate it when someone comes on to other peoples threads just to slam it. If you don't like it then don't respond to it, it's that simple. This is anime suki not douchebag central.
I slam when i feel like it. If you make a thread:
?+? = ?
Well then Im sure I have to point out you are an idiot since not all the information is given and the answer isnt definite. So what are you really adding up to? I believe thats grounds for slamming.
cheese4u
2006-10-21, 15:46
I slam when i feel like it. If you make a thread:
?+? = ?
Well then Im sure I have to point out you are an idiot since not all the information is given and the answer isnt definite. So what are you really adding up to? I believe thats grounds for slamming.
Okay, okay I admit, the "douchebag central" thing was going a bit over the top. But come on, you two slam everything as if no one has the right to speculate.
Hey man Im not slamming UNNECESSARILY.
I mean ... the leader's details are unknown, his identity is unknown, and pretty much everything else is unknown about him.
Its so bad that the most solid proof of his potential identity is based on the OUTLINE OF HIS HAIR (and its alleged color in the recent chapters).
Im sorry, but that kind of manga speculation is better left unsaid. If you wanted to speculate on Yellow Flash, feel free. At least we have some info to go on. Arguments about whether he exists or not currently can be entertained since theres possible proof he can dodge the DeathGod grip.
(He showed Sarutobi the move, and it clearly wasnt when he was sealing the Kyuubi. I cant remember the specifics but logic either places Sarutobi away from that battlefield or something else that Ive probably forgotten). Either way, it can be argued that YF does exist still .. even though its highly unlikely (and I dont support the theory).
But when we are arguing about people's identities and history based on the outline of their hair, I think the speculation needs to stop.
Ero-Senn1n
2006-10-21, 16:58
I slam when i feel like it. If you make a thread:
?+? = ?
Well then Im sure I have to point out you are an idiot since not all the information is given and the answer isnt definite. So what are you really adding up to? I believe thats grounds for slamming.
There are a lot of cases in our real world where people know very little and despite that they make their theories. I don't see any problem on making some debate about this. People had their theories about the origins of our world and our race, even theories about the exinstence of god, etc...
So i feel free to make a thread about this even with almost no facts, just for the fun of it :D
Also the Narutoverse is an imaginary world where almost anything can happen, so miracles where 2 + 2 = 5 can happen quite often, the answer is rarely definite. :)
@ cheese4u:
man it not like i love to slam topics but i hate endless rolls people make to convince his / her ideas to another while there is no proof at all...i mean i sometimes get lost in uber-long posts that means nothing...want some example?
yondailme is alive.
yondaime is leader.
who is the leader?
is konohamaru asumas son?
obito is tobi.
what happened to deidaras arm
who is hidan
who is kakuzu
is it a bloodline limit?
who is shika?
who am i?
yondaime ninjutsu
yondaime genjutsu
yondaime taijutsu
yondaime kinjutsu
yondaime sexy-no jutsu
whats narutos new move?
whats that tech?
whats that other tech?
who is the king?
what was asuma to say kakashi
kakashis face
kakashis buttt
kakashis sharingan
what is the 3rd jutsu
who is madara
madara is the leader
leader is madara
naruto is madara
naruto is gay
where is sasuke
sasuke is gay
sai is gay
sai stronger then x
who is root anbu
who is danzou
what are danzous intentions
kyuubi dies naruto dies?
sai s brother
smartest ninja
what happened to rin
who is rin
what happened to white fang
white fang is the leader
ramen guy is white fang
....i can go all night man i mean c'mon these are the things we dont know anything about so ideas are only ideas and without proof you just cant make people belive your ideas...
i am not against ideas but i am fed up with endless rolls ....
@ cheese4u:mean i sometimes get lost in uber-long posts that means nothing...want some example?
yondailme is alive.
yondaime is leader.
who is the leader?
is konohamaru asumas son?
obito is tobi.
what happened to deidaras arm
who is hidan
who is kakuzu
is it a bloodline limit?
who is shika?
who am i?
yondaime ninjutsu
yondaime genjutsu
yondaime taijutsu
yondaime kinjutsu
yondaime sexy-no jutsu
whats narutos new move?
whats that tech?
whats that other tech?
who is the king?
what was asuma to say kakashi
kakashis face
kakashis buttt
kakashis sharingan
what is the 3rd jutsu
who is madara
madara is the leader
leader is madara
naruto is madara
naruto is gay
where is sasuke
sasuke is gay
sai is gay
sai stronger then x
who is root anbu
who is danzou
what are danzous intentions
kyuubi dies naruto dies?
sai s brother
smartest ninja
what happened to rin
who is rin
what happened to white fang
white fang is the leader
ramen guy is white fang
that has to be it! ramen guy is AL ._. lmao <3
heheh and the ramen girl is the mysterius flower girl...
cheese4u
2006-10-21, 19:46
Hey man Im not slamming UNNECESSARILY.
I mean ... the leader's details are unknown, his identity is unknown, and pretty much everything else is unknown about him.
Its so bad that the most solid proof of his potential identity is based on the OUTLINE OF HIS HAIR (and its alleged color in the recent chapters).
Im sorry, but that kind of manga speculation is better left unsaid. If you wanted to speculate on Yellow Flash, feel free. At least we have some info to go on. Arguments about whether he exists or not currently can be entertained since theres possible proof he can dodge the DeathGod grip.
(He showed Sarutobi the move, and it clearly wasnt when he was sealing the Kyuubi. I cant remember the specifics but logic either places Sarutobi away from that battlefield or something else that Ive probably forgotten). Either way, it can be argued that YF does exist still .. even though its highly unlikely (and I dont support the theory).
But when we are arguing about people's identities and history based on the outline of their hair, I think the speculation needs to stop.
First of all, the color of AL's hair is not "alleged." It's the color that Kishi gave him.
Secondly, you act like we just come up with these theories out of the air. All of the theories that I come up with, and most of the others, have based their theories on actual facts from the show. All I'm saying is that you going to every thread and saying "Oooh this theory sucks cause it never happened," isn't helping anyone. No one is putting a freakin gun to your head and saying that you have to comment. If you hate it that much then by all means don't comment.
First of all, the color of AL's hair is not "alleged." It's the color that Kishi gave him.
Secondly, you act like we just come up with these theories out of the air. All of the theories that I come up with, and most of the others, have based their theories on actual facts from the show. All I'm saying is that you going to every thread and saying "Oooh this theory sucks cause it never happened," isn't helping anyone. No one is putting a freakin gun to your head and saying that you have to comment. If you hate it that much then by all means don't comment.
If you hate people commenting negatively on your theory you shouldnt post it. No one forced you to post it. However by posting it on a forum ... you have put your idea up for critcism / ridicule / accolades. However people are swayed by your proof will result in a certain way. I havent commented on any of your theories as far as i know, but if you are getting neg feedback theres obviously facts / information you neglected. Either way, keep your ideas to yourself or post them at the risk of people commenting on it. Unless you can lock the thread before anyone does.
ALSO: If your "theory" was fact then it wont be a theory, would it? It would be uncontested fact. But its not. Why? Because you are looking at certain factors, interpreting them a certain way and finding more factors, misinterpreting them to coincide with what you believe already.
I say alleged because if we havent been given a full facial profile and we are trying to judge his haircolor based off a scan I dont think we are 100% guaranteed to be making the right assumption.
cheese4u
2006-10-22, 01:48
If you hate people commenting negatively on your theory you shouldnt post it. No one forced you to post it. However by posting it on a forum ... you have put your idea up for critcism / ridicule / accolades. However people are swayed by your proof will result in a certain way. I havent commented on any of your theories as far as i know, but if you are getting neg feedback theres obviously facts / information you neglected. Either way, keep your ideas to yourself or post them at the risk of people commenting on it. Unless you can lock the thread before anyone does.
ALSO: If your "theory" was fact then it wont be a theory, would it? It would be uncontested fact. But its not. Why? Because you are looking at certain factors, interpreting them a certain way and finding more factors, misinterpreting them to coincide with what you believe already.
I say alleged because if we havent been given a full facial profile and we are trying to judge his haircolor based off a scan I dont think we are 100% guaranteed to be making the right assumption.
Well put, but remember all of the things you just said can be applied to you as well.
theory bashing? Or criticism? I thought it was clear by now ... either are welcome wherever applicable. :D
oh my god i missed one and someone already got it konohamarus father and mother...
see what i mean?
I would have been happier if the factless stipulation threads would end . There are no basis for any argument and well arguments are endless . If people do want to indulge in meaningless arguments I have a Better idea lets discuss charas ie
Why is Sauckay so Gay
The Akatsuki leader was the worst of all and all those indirect I Love Sauckay / I Love Yondi threads
Sabaku Kyu
2006-10-22, 09:50
I agree people should put in more thought when they create threads, but Tatami, it almost looks like you just went and listed every speculation thread you saw. Not all of those topics are meaningless. Ones that are trivial and talk about characters who will serve no purpose the story (i.e. Konohamaru's mom and dad) should be avoided or put in the Q & A thread maybe. But speculation threads about major characters or unknown characters who might possibly play a major part in the story (i.e. the Akatsuki threads) those are valid threads for discussion. If all the topics were simply about facts that could be proven there'd be little left but the chapter discussion threads.
i didnt even checked the threads while listing them....what to talk about konohamarus parents man?let me tell you about his parents:
one is man and other is women.(even this information is not a fact or proven.)
i just said it is necessary to give ideas but it is meaningless to uber-talk about some topics we dont know shitt about.
what is the point or where do you really want to go with the question of who is the AL while we only saw his 1/6 face , no voice only shape and color of his hair?
maybe i should open a topic about it.
Soultis Rayn
2006-10-22, 11:51
What's so wrong about guessing who the leader or others may be?
It's fun to share your ideas with others...what's with peeps on the forums who are so serious and uptight. I know you've probably seen thousands of them driving you insane...
But think of the dufus' who still want to speculate on it.
Mr. Johnny 5
2006-10-22, 14:05
Dont worry Rayn...its not contagious...they just snapped :)
Nah seriously The Leader is someone unknown...
ok i give up against the dont-want-to-understand-points-of-ideas people...have fun...
Soultis Rayn
2006-10-23, 11:25
Yay, Tatami gave up, and thanks Johnny 5
animernq
2006-10-24, 14:11
Since Kakuzu and Hidan came to the Fire Country looking for a tailed beast (in chapter 313 they didn't say it was Naruto or the nine tails) its possible that the 'king' is another tailed beast in the Fire Country. Since this tail beast is important it is most likely to be either the leader of the 12 guard ninjas, or the Lord of the Fire Country.
I know captain kangaroo, that why I said technically.
I don’t understand what he learned in Less than 1 week "technically", when he lasted one month and some days to learn the rasengan.
Enlighten me please.
Soultis Rayn
2006-10-24, 17:23
Since Kakuzu and Hidan came to the Fire Country looking for a tailed beast (in chapter 313 they didn't say it was Naruto or the nine tails) its possible that the 'king' is another tailed beast in the Fire Country. Since this tail beast is important it is most likely to be either the leader of the 12 guard ninjas, or the Lord of the Fire Country.
It's probably just Naruto, how else would you get that kind of reaction from Shikamaru?
shika the king is.. from tekken 5...
shika : !
wrong thread -.-
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HazardNights
2006-11-12, 21:57
In my opinion, the "King" is the People of Konoha from the smallest to the biggest to the bravest and the cowardice.
The reason I say his is because, in the recent Manga chapter's Asuma was reminiscing the death of the 3rd while saying to him self "I Finally Understand" If i remember correctly the 3rd was always talking about loving/protecting the people of the village because they are his "Family".
He also says HE, him self is a sacrificial peice, and Shika is a Knight! (Put the game and RL together) you get "protector's" of what? The King.
The King can't be Hokage/is Not, Asuma already mentioned that to Shika when Shika guessed if it was the Hokage. (Asuma used to think it was) so that only leaves these options.
The People Of Konoha
People Important To You
Your Family, Your loved ones (Wife, G/F)
People you Want To Protect
(The last 3 could be put together)
So, it sort of makes sence because... Whats a Hokage without his Villege and His People? Goodbye Village and Its People = -> Goodbye Hokage = -> Goodbye Ninjas (Asuma, Shika, Sacrificial Peice, Knight) -> Nothing.
ˆ-ˆ Of course I could be 100% Wrong! :D <3
Could also be.. the "Children" >.>; more like... your.., our children. Kurenai is pregnant with Asuma's baby BAHAH)
I'm going have to go with this. This is what I was thinking and it would go in line with the general theme that has been there with the series from the beginning. That an I think it also strengthens his connection with the 3rd more.
it might be the people of the village or naruto (kyuubi) because if akatsuki gets their hands on him everything will be destroyed because they will make their own village
Arthas1011
2007-12-17, 19:21
Probably naruto
naruto89
2007-12-17, 20:04
its the next generations its already been revealed........ bloody hell some people dont seem to be reading the manga at all !!!
its the next generations its already been revealed........ bloody hell some people dont seem to be reading the manga at all !!!
I was thinking the same thing. Shikamaru says it to his dad when they are playing Shougi after the whole Hidan/Kakuzu arc has come to a close.
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