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http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/213855
china is slaughtering dogs because of rabies and up coming olympic......
sorry for posting such unrelated topic on this forum
but I think the whole world needs to know what China is doing.....
Aoie_Emesai
2006-11-18, 00:23
China has their own way of dealing with things of matters such as these. Now i think they are going in a wrong way of thinking about it. Of course there's better ways like vaccainations or maybe isolation. Just being indifferent about this doesn't make me bad does it? I do think it's grotesque, but i'm not gonna stop them, i'll just say but no t inforce my will of vaccaination or anything of that nature. Lets just hope China can think of a better solution.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14231479/
Thousands of people die from rabies in China every year.
Please understand both sides of the story before listening to hype.
It's like how people relate the One Child Policy to female infanticide, when that only occurs in rural areas and the One Child Policy doesn't affect rural areas.
Or how people demonize the police when they crack down on Falun Gong, despite that Falun Gong is ideologically as retarded as the Branch Davidians--and we all know what happened at Waco, Texas.
And before you scream out vaccinations:
They're expensive. And it's an epidemic right now.
I think it's rather sick. Do they ask for vaccination papers first, or just walk into your backyard and smash your dog's head in?
I think it's rather sick. Do they ask for vaccination papers first, or just walk into your backyard and smash your dog's head in?
2nd
they kill every single dog in the city, even the vaccinated ones
I think it's rather sick. Do they ask for vaccination papers first, or just walk into your backyard and smash your dog's head in?
Not sure, but this is important.
In other towns, owners have been ordered to register dogs and vaccinate them, which costs $25 per animal — several times what a farmer might pay for a puppy.
Is $25 expensive for China?
Let's have a comparison.
Exchange rate: 8 yuan per dollar.
That's 200 yuan for a vaccination.
Comparatively...
A roast duck dinner: 8 yuan.
A Big Mac meal: 22 yuan.
A CD: 12 yuan.
The Chinese Health Ministry reported 2,375 rabies deaths last year nationwide. Researchers writing in a journal published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in December said China had the world’s second-highest infection rate. Only India reports more cases, with some 30,000 deaths annually, according to the World Health Organization.
Comparative figures for the United States
Average yearly death from rabies: 1 or 2
(http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/rabies/Epidemiology/Epidemiology.htm)
Also, this is not the first thing this sort of thing has happened.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/07/11/wdogs11.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/07/11/ixworld.html
Greece had the luxury of using poison, but that's because they have much more resources.
While this is cruel, it is needed.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14231479/
Thousands of people die from rabies in China every year.
well, I think the main reason is that there are many irresponsible owners in china who have very little knowledge about sanitary and education, so the problems are not directly caused by the dogs
even if they really have to kill the dogs, there are many ways to do it
instead, they are just killing them with blood splashing out, and they did it right in front of the owners' eyes
this slaugthering really shouldn't be happening in any civilized and developed countries.......
well, I think the main reason is that there are many irresponsible owners in china who have very little knowledge about sanitary and education, so the problems are not directly caused by the dogs
even if they really have to kill the dogs, there are many ways to do it
instead, they are just killing them with blood splashing out, and they did it right in front of the owners' eyes
this slaugthering really shouldn't be happening in any civilized and developed countries.......
1. China is not civilized. I'm saying this as a Chinese person.
2. China is not developed. I'm saying this as an American.
You also misunderstand how many people own pets illegally. There's a 35cm rule in place in Beijing right now that limits dogs to 35cm (not sure if it's height or length). It's something you have to live to understand.
If you want something to complain about, believe me, pets are the last thing. The REAL shocking stuff never makes it to the news, because people outside China don't care. People care when dogs die. They don't care that Chinese car manufacturers make such shoddy brakes that they fail on mountainsides and people die every year from overheated brakes and careen off the sides of mountains. They don't care that right-of-way traffic laws are never enforced in China, and that buses oftentimes run over pedestrians and bikers because both parties refuse to give right of way.
You don't know a lot of things until you see them. When I was in China, there was a woman on a bike that was hit by a car. I only biked past the accident. The car was nearby, parked, its windshield cracked. There was no one crying nearby. But I thought, is she alive? Who knew this woman? Does she have children? Does she have a lover? Will her life be the same? When there are over a billion countrymen around you, you think as a whole, not as an individual. As I grew up in America, I was able to think as an individual. I stopped to think when others drove right by. They've seen this before, many times. I haven't.
Media loves to spin. Uneducated people love to complain. Pet dogs in China aren't like your friendly golden retriever. They're not all bred to perfection and have beautifully pure fur. Many are wild, feral. And the government does not have the time or money to distinguish between them all, especially when people are dying.
You don't know a lot of things until you see them. When I was in China, there was a woman on a bike that was hit by a car. I only biked past the accident. The car was nearby, parked, its windshield cracked. There was no one crying nearby. But I thought, is she alive? Who knew this woman? Does she have children? Does she have a lover? Will her life be the same? When there are over a billion countrymen around you, you think as a whole, not as an individual. As I grew up in America, I was able to think as an individual. I stopped to think when others drove right by. They've seen this before, many times. I haven't.
oh, I do know LOTS lol
there are lots of weird stories about china on the news
I said china was civilized and developed because that's probably how most people outside of china think
but personally, China is almost my most hated country, a country that is absolutely uncivilized and undeveloped
and FYI, I am also a Chinese, HK chinese
and currently a Canadian citizen.....>.>
but my main point is that, yes, I do know there are people dying in china because of rabies, BUT the slaughtering really is unnecessary plus it shows the Chinese as salvage
anselfir
2006-11-18, 01:39
lol, same as they do with "unwanted babies"
whatever
lol, same as they do with "unwanted babies"
whatever
And you are a fine specimen of an unwanted poster.
Your profile says your interests are ethics and philosophy yet you are easily the most ignorant person to post in this thread.
You are a terrible human being.
thanks for the heads up.. im not gonna be eating any meat coming from China for a while.. thanks again. :heh:
China had also very recently passed a law prohibiting any dog other than pets in the homes and apartments of residents, and even if you abide by that, you are only allowed to have one...sort of like how you can only have one child per family.
Emphasis on "any dog other than pets". Wonder what other reason dogs are kept around the house for.
China had also very recently passed a law prohibiting any dog other than pets in the homes and apartments of residents, and even if you abide by that, you are only allowed to have one...sort of like how you can only have one child per family.
Emphasis on "any dog other than pets". Wonder what other reason dogs are kept around the house for.
Food, silly.
Dog tastes like beef.
-KarumA-
2006-11-18, 09:12
sorry to say this but beating them to death amkes me sick...
they could do beter things then to hunt them down like mere monsters, some may eb infected but theyre still living spiecies and isnt it in that belief (which i dont know the name off in english) that the way you threat others will have effec on your afterlive.. :eyebrow:
there are beter options than to beat someone to death, you woldnt want such a death either or would you.. those animals are liek men's best friend and what do they do to repay it beat it to death ont he street or shoot it.. sorry to say this but im discusted by this action, a shot throught he head would be beter than beating them to death and burrying them in graves with over a 100 other pouches
what wasnt mentioned is that are already things moving to save the pouches
- there are many protests going on in Beijing for this
- In the U.S. Congress, some 60 House members and more in the Senate have sponsored bipartisan resolutions that the 2008 Olympics should not be conducted in Beijing unless China releases all political prisoners and improves civil liberties
i understand that this is a thing that has to be done but what i dont understand is that even registered pets are being killed, reports mostly say that unregistered pets will only get killed but its the other ones as well, if theyre strays then i feel a sort of agreement but not entirely because of the methods used for killing the dog, same goes with the way they kill dogs on markets to sell their meat, most of the times the dog is still concious while they let the blood drain and hang the dog up so that itll stream away, i dont mind them eating dogs, its a tradition and has to do with teir culture but i hate the way they finish them off, even as animals dogs deserve a honoured death and not one of a murderer
Aoie_Emesai
2006-11-18, 11:37
1. China is not civilized. I'm saying this as a Chinese person.
2. China is not developed. I'm saying this as an American.
You also misunderstand how many people own pets illegally. There's a 35cm rule in place in Beijing right now that limits dogs to 35cm (not sure if it's height or length). It's something you have to live to understand.
If you want something to complain about, believe me, pets are the last thing. The REAL shocking stuff never makes it to the news, because people outside China don't care. People care when dogs die. They don't care that Chinese car manufacturers make such shoddy brakes that they fail on mountainsides and people die every year from overheated brakes and careen off the sides of mountains. They don't care that right-of-way traffic laws are never enforced in China, and that buses oftentimes run over pedestrians and bikers because both parties refuse to give right of way.
You don't know a lot of things until you see them. When I was in China, there was a woman on a bike that was hit by a car. I only biked past the accident. The car was nearby, parked, its windshield cracked. There was no one crying nearby. But I thought, is she alive? Who knew this woman? Does she have children? Does she have a lover? Will her life be the same? When there are over a billion countrymen around you, you think as a whole, not as an individual. As I grew up in America, I was able to think as an individual. I stopped to think when others drove right by. They've seen this before, many times. I haven't.
Media loves to spin. Uneducated people love to complain. Pet dogs in China aren't like your friendly golden retriever. They're not all bred to perfection and have beautifully pure fur. Many are wild, feral. And the government does not have the time or money to distinguish between them all, especially when people are dying.
I love how you explained China's view on subjects we may find totally wrong. Their opinions are always different from anyones else, anyway. Just don't forget different countries have a different sets of laws that has to be obeyed and followed, while it seems that the grotesque killing of dogs to us horrific, to them it may just be another day in the park.
Ps: So at the end it was all about the money, huh?
Have to say that I can understand the chinese government in this matter, but then I don't care much for the dogs (I'm a cat person). However, just like with the one-child policy, there are people who will oppose the ruling. Thus the disease will always have a healthy-sized reserve to retreat to, not to forget the wild animals.
In the end, this will be, mostly, about limiting the size of the animal population in cities to control the risks. Obviously there had been way too many dogs, so cutting down the population was a good thing to do, since it saves from suffering later on. Can't know for sure, of course, without having been there and seen the situation.
Deathkillz
2006-11-18, 12:06
Ps: So at the end it was all about the money, huh?
pretty much...to get every single dog vaccinated would be madness/impossible...how will you catch all the dogs? the time/money and energy spent on catching them is already more than enough for any anyone and added to if you were going to vaccinate its going to need professionals etc...
easier way would be this option but ofc its inhumane...but do they have a choice? no...look at whats in the future and what is top piority...
and besides just to be clear its not like all the dogs are being killed off in china...the rule is only one dog per family is allowed and assholes who abandon dogs that turn into strays catch rabies...therefore only stray dogs are being killed not household ones...
NightbatŪ
2006-11-18, 12:23
as an animal lover I can't oppose it
seems many forget what rabies does to an animal
"Vaccinate" Yeah, sure, that'll work when you've got 10000 veterenarians trying to give
1000000 stray dogs their shot in a country bigger than anything else on the planet
though they could go about it a bit more "humane" and make their deaths quick
if they don't act upon it, their screwed
@-Karuma-: Your points were "lol".
1. The United States has no right to talk about civil rights and liberties at this point. Two words... Guantanamo and Wiretaps, two things not even China does so badly.
2. 3% of Chinese dogs are vaccinated. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061108/ap_on_re_as/china_one_dog_policy
Did you absorb that? 3%. THREE PERCENT. That means that out of 100 dogs they kill, 97 ARE JUSTIFIED KILLINGS.
@Aoie_Emesai: It's not that it's about money. It's about lack of money.
@Nightbat®: Exactly.
@Aoie_Emesai: It's not that it's about money. It's about lack of money.
So... it is about the money. But thats cool, thats the way the whole world works. Imo, let countries solve their problems how they see fit. They're in the best position to make that call after all, not some white suburban liberal sitting thousands of miles away. Its not like they're killing people, at the end of the day they're killing dogs to save humans. Needs must and all that
So... it is about the money. But thats cool, thats the way the whole world works. Imo, let countries solve their problems how they see fit. They're in the best position to make that call after all, not some white suburban liberal sitting thousands of miles away. Its not like they're killing people, at the end of the day they're killing dogs to save humans. Needs must and all that
No, it's not about the money.
To say something is "about the money" is to imply that money is the objective.
Here, the objective is not money. The objective is to be rid of a devastating epidemic. Money is not the objective. Money is a barrier.
Hence, it is not about the money, so do not argue so.
Aoie_Emesai
2006-11-19, 01:09
@Aoie_Emesai: It's not that it's about money. It's about lack of money.
Sorry, sorry. I stated my response wrong. Thanks for the correction.
"Vaccinate" Yeah, sure, that'll work when you've got 10000 veterenarians trying to give
1000000 stray dogs their shot in a country bigger than anything else on the planet
You do know that China is one the world's biggest population? If every single person in China has a vaccine tool, all the dogs in the world SHOULD be worried.
Money won't be that much of a problem.. Its a damn communist country; and pretty much has a factory for everything, the government could just ask clinical labs to manifacture the vaccine.
You know the biggest problem? Logistics. Only a 60% of China has a solid accessibility- even though they have a expressways and such. :heh:
To those disgusted by this action in china:
Dogs are treated like Cattle in china...
You didnt complain when Cattle were killed to stop the spread of Mad Cow disease.
You didnt complain when Chickens were killed to stop Avian Flu.
Sorry but dogs dont always have the same image everywhere else. Some cultures have no use for dogs other than Meat. Enough about Lets get them vacinated! Sorry but not everyone has the resources to do that... which goes back to the point why vacinated infected livestock?
Sesssh no offence but try looking at things through a practical view, not a moral view.
You do know that China is one the world's biggest population? If every single person in China has a vaccine tool, all the dogs in the world SHOULD be worried.
Money won't be that much of a problem.. Its a damn communist country; and pretty much has a factory for everything, the government could just ask clinical labs to manifacture the vaccine.
You know the biggest problem? Logistics. Only a 60% of China has a solid accessibility- even though they have a expressways and such. :heh:
Pharmaceuticals and biologicals are not as easy to manufacture as McDonald's toys.
Ero-Sannin
2006-11-21, 14:10
http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/213855
china is slaughtering dogs because of rabies and up coming olympic......
sorry for posting such unrelated topic on this forum
but I think the whole world needs to know what China is doing.....
I sense a dog lover in this thread... and btw... i m back
ImClueless
2006-11-21, 14:21
You do know that China is one the world's biggest population? If every single person in China has a vaccine tool, all the dogs in the world SHOULD be worried.
Money won't be that much of a problem.. Its a damn communist country; and pretty much has a factory for everything, the government could just ask clinical labs to manifacture the vaccine.
You know the biggest problem? Logistics. Only a 60% of China has a solid accessibility- even though they have a expressways and such. :heh:
Umm FYI there are few state owned factories in China anymore. The place is as capitalist as just about anywhere else, if not more so considering the lack government regulations. The only trappings of communism that China still maintains is political, not economic or social. So for the government to make vaccine, if they were so inclined, they would have to pay. XD
Also why the hell should anyone manufacture millions of doses of vaccines for dogs when the poor sods in Africa can't even get vaccines for measles or the myriad of other neglected diseases? People should get their priorities straight. Humans should come before animals, once we have solved our own problems then we should worry about the welfare of other critters.
mimi_girl
2006-11-21, 16:14
Wow! I can't believe people are killing dog in China due to rabies. Hey I was wondering, is there a cure for rabies on animals? Because if there is one, China really needs it :confused:.
Wow! I can't believe people are killing dog in China due to rabies. Hey I was wondering, is there a cure for rabies on animals? Because if there is one, China really needs it :confused:.
No, there is no cure. If someone--be it a dog or human, develops rabies, he'll die within a few days.
To date I believe there's only one case of a human rabies victim that has survived after being administered experimental medications.
ImClueless
2006-11-21, 16:22
There is a vaccine which is effective if administered soon after the bite though. Before the infection becomes established.
ChainLegacy
2006-11-21, 17:35
It isn't the most pleasant solution, but I guess it's the one that is the most practical for China. I'm sad that innocent dogs have to be killed as a result of this, but I'd rather a couple of dogs die than a couple of people.
It is really strange; the cruelties against animals reach more people than the cruelty against human lives (Bridget Bardot needs to hear this, in the eyes of those people, they say they are hurt when a single dog was tortured in another country, even though they might feel nothing at all when a similar innocent and defenseless person was tortured to death again in another place).
(I might repeat some previously posted views, but it is still worth to say) I believe, in China, the dogs are mainly food material (although it seems that this policy has started to change), so killing millions of chickens due to risk of bird flu in Europe is actually not much different than killing dogs due to risk of rabies in China. The dogs might look like a friend for you, but not everyone has the same kind of thinking as you do. Also, it is better not to forget that many of the other animals are just food material in your eyes, and consider the dogs being viewed like that in another country.
But, if those people want to stop such killings, they can try one other thing, ask the Chinese government to send millions of those risk carrying dogs to their own country after they send a payment for each of them to China. I guess money and the risk to take shouldn't be more important than saving those dogs in their eyes. If those two seem more important then they should put themselves in the position of Chinese government.
Matt Soulblade
2006-11-21, 18:59
I think there is not much discussion about this... Rabie is an epidemy, and there is not enough money to do a massive vaccination. So there is no way out.
But of course, I totally defend the owners of the dogs, as long as eveything is legal. If the dogs are vaccinated (owners's money) there should not me mayor problem, and these dogs could be identificated by things like collars or ribbons so everybody knows those are safe. The "one dog per house" is a correct choice IMO, however, what happens with the families with more than one dog? They chose one to live, and the others are just killed? Consider that most people treat their dogs like members of the family.
@Sazelyt: Dogs are considered as both pets and a source of food. However, it's rare for them to be in both roles, as dogs simply aren't too common in China. Pets are usually limited to aquatic creatures and cats. You can find this motif in almost all Eastern Asian cultures. After all, when was the last time you saw a dog in an anime? =P
@Matt Soulblade: While the articles mention that registered and legal dogs were also subject to the culling, none of the articles I could find mentioned if vaccinated dogs were spared. Regarding households with multiple pets, who knows. Most likely they'd just get to choose. But as I mentioned earlier, large pets are a rarity.
@Sazelyt: Dogs are considered as both pets and a source of food. However, it's rare for them to be in both roles, as dogs simply aren't too common in China. Pets are usually limited to aquatic creatures and cats. You can find this motif in almost all Eastern Asian cultures. After all, when was the last time you saw a dog in an anime?I have seen dogs quite a few times, although they are usually close to the roles of being intelligent creatures, whereas cats are like cats, typical not-so intelligent pets.
The case you mentioned about keeping an animal as either a pet or a food supply but not both is usually the case for animals that you consider as pets (at least that is the case in my country) - the simplest examples I can think of are rabbit, bird, fish, turtle. But, there will always be exceptions, who will consider the pet as an emergency food supply (borrowing the idea from anime).
Hehe, my girlfriend finds it hilarious horrifying that I have absolutely no qualms about eating a deceased pet.
It's like becoming one.
I should clarify a bit; animes that take place in East Asia :O
Well in any case, another big part of the pet problem is poop.
They've already outlawed spitting on the streets in China. If you've seen Chinese streets, they can be pretty messy sometimes. You also need to keep in mind the population density in China is very high; no one wants to walk in dog poop, and having to walk a pet outside becomes extremely difficult when there are a lot of people around (there is no such thing as a suburb in China).
anselfir
2006-11-22, 00:51
And you are a fine specimen of an unwanted poster.
Your profile says your interests are ethics and philosophy yet you are easily the most ignorant person to post in this thread.
You are a terrible human being.
I was being sarcastic and referring to a much more serious problem. If you want me to expand on my work in that field, helping asylum applicants and such, that's fine, but I do not have time. :)
This thread would be like criticizing a serial murderer for not wearing a shirt in public. It is really frustrating sometimes for someone who have seen a lot of bad stuff to see relatively benign things like dog massacre mentioned more than something more dire like the utter disrespect for human life or ethics in a State. But i guess those who lived most of their life in relative calm cannot appreciate the moral chaos that is the rest of the world.
lol, same as they do with "unwanted babies"
whatever
That tone in no way suggests anything other than ignorance. If you meant anything more by it, it was all lost in the "whatever" and the "lol".
I agree that the dog culling is a very minor issue compared to other things going on in China right now, as that's one of the points I've argued in this thread.
And if think I've "lived my life in relative calm," you're dead wrong.
Dead wrong.
Komataguri
2006-11-22, 13:54
There is alot of sensationalism and blatant ignorance in this thread.
China is acting for the good of its people, Obviously the dogs have become a disease carrying pest..Much like rats to the western world.
Yet I don't see anyone creating threads about the Rat Massacres that happen in the name of public health.
As I said before, to much damn sensationalism
anselfir
2006-11-22, 14:04
That tone in no way suggests anything other than ignorance. If you meant anything more by it, it was all lost in the "whatever" and the "lol".
I agree that the dog culling is a very minor issue compared to other things going on in China right now, as that's one of the points I've argued in this thread.
And if think I've "lived my life in relative calm," you're dead wrong.
Dead wrong.
oh, it was sarcastic alright. As for the tone, that is your interpretation.
I was not referring to you specifically, or even generally, with the statement you quoted, so calm down.
you eat cow, pig, watever dont you? is it the same like you kill a dog for human life so is that wrong, so killing chicken is right huhh? for the brid flus?(srry for my english)
ThisIsDream
2006-11-22, 14:59
Actually, there are many ppl posted what I want to post such as Birds chickens H5N1 disease ......
IMo, China did that better than western world hunting animals for their skins, bodies ...... They are better than ppl from Europe or America who killed off all Buffalo =/.
Lexander
2006-11-22, 15:02
I don't think we should complain about some laws against animals, but not others.
I love dogs, and I don't agree that clubbing them to death is the best way to deal with this problem, but then again I'm not China. All I know is that we have laws against animals for a reason. How do you explain to a dog that it has rabies and shouldn't bite anyone?
This is sad in any case. :(
@Sazelyt: Dogs are considered as both pets and a source of food. However, it's rare for them to be in both roles, as dogs simply aren't too common in China. Pets are usually limited to aquatic creatures and cats. You can find this motif in almost all Eastern Asian cultures. After all, when was the last time you saw a dog in an anime? =P
Heh, Menchi from Excel Saga is a good example of a dog who is both a pet and a food source.:heh:
Never seen that show =P
I don't think we should complain about some laws against animals, but not others.
I love dogs, and I don't agree that clubbing them to death is the best way to deal with this problem, but then again I'm not China. All I know is that we have laws against animals for a reason. How do you explain to a dog that it has rabies and shouldn't bite anyone?
This is sad in any case. :(
Do you explain to a roach that it's icky before you kill one?
I personally think all bugs are cute. ;)
Burning Man
2006-11-22, 17:10
This another reason why I not like China. I not watch Olympics already.
This another reason why I not like China. I not watch Olympics already.If you are not currently living a monk life, or if you are using only staff that you have made/produced/created on your own, then such claims would become really meaningless. Currently, the possibility of using at least one product that is originally coming from China or produced at conditions that you do not approve of should be very high (and maybe equal to 1, especially if you live in a developed or developing country).
I guess that's the most practical solution, especially if there is no cure as someone above mentioned or China can't afford to vaccinate every single dog.
And I agree that the health of the people is more important than the animals in this case. Plus, there is to add that in the last years here in Europe there have been some mass slaughters of animals due to mad cow disease, avian flu and so. It's all in the (cultural) perspective one has.
The case you mentioned about keeping an animal as either a pet or a food supply but not both is usually the case for animals that you consider as pets (at least that is the case in my country) - the simplest examples I can think of are rabbit, bird, fish, turtle. But, there will always be exceptions, who will consider the pet as an emergency food supply (borrowing the idea from anime).
My great-uncle had rabbits as emergency food supply, but his kids along with their cousins (my mum and her brother) always saw them as their pets - until they had cooked rabbit that is... My mum always tells me that story saying that was a common habit during WWII and the years after and my great-uncle just held to it.
Lexander
2006-11-22, 19:01
Never seen that show =P
Do you explain to a roach that it's icky before you kill one?
I agree with you.
In Yosemite if a bear attacks someone it's hunted down ... even though people are deliberately going into their territory to have picnics.
Australia did a rabbit cleanup.
California just passed legislature that allows towns to ban certain breeds of dogs that are deemed dangerous(targetted at pitbulls).
I'm sure there have been a bunch of incidents where the government decides that a certain animal in dangerous to the public and comes up with an 'affordable' solution to it. Really it's all the same everywhere. It's just a sensitive issue because it involves dogs. Like you said China probably has bigger problems that need the money going into vaccines. Since you can'ts just spay all these stray dogs, it's a cost that's going to stick around.
oh, I do know LOTS lol
there are lots of weird stories about china on the news
I said china was civilized and developed because that's probably how most people outside of china think
but personally, China is almost my most hated country, a country that is absolutely uncivilized and undeveloped
and FYI, I am also a Chinese, HK chinese
and currently a Canadian citizen.....>.>
but my main point is that, yes, I do know there are people dying in china because of rabies, BUT the slaughtering really is unnecessary plus it shows the Chinese as salvage
= = First....it is OFFENSIVE to say a country or their ppl are savage.....
ESP. when U R A CHINESE URSELF!!!!!!!
And that is why people in America/Canada misunderstand China.....it is because many Chinese people here are saying all these fricking stuff about China.....Why dont you guys ever say something possitive about China?????Arent u suppose to be proud of your own country????
If a Chinese cannot have faith in his/her own country.....trust me....no one else will@@@@!!!!!!!!!!
damn it......T A T.......look at those Japanese people......How much love do they have in their country??
Dont always blame the government for what they have done......look at yourself man.......their action is probably due to YOU !!
= = First....it is OFFENSIVE to say a country or their ppl are savage.....
ESP. when U R A CHINESE URSELF!!!!!!!
And that is why people in America/Canada misunderstand China.....it is because many Chinese people here are saying all these fricking stuff about China.....Why dont you guys ever say something possitive about China?????Arent u suppose to be proud of your own country????
If a Chinese cannot have faith in his/her own country.....trust me....no one else will@@@@!!!!!!!!!!
damn it......T A T.......look at those Japanese people......How much love do they have in their country??
Dont always blame the government for what they have done......look at yourself man.......their action is probably due to YOU !!
There's a big difference between nationalist pride and blind nationalism.
You shouldn't be proud of your own country if they're making the wrong choices.
= = First....it is OFFENSIVE to say a country or their ppl are savage.....
ESP. when U R A CHINESE URSELF!!!!!!!
And that is why people in America/Canada misunderstand China.....it is because many Chinese people here are saying all these fricking stuff about China.....Why dont you guys ever say something possitive about China?????Arent u suppose to be proud of your own country????
If a Chinese cannot have faith in his/her own country.....trust me....no one else will@@@@!!!!!!!!!!
damn it......T A T.......look at those Japanese people......How much love do they have in their country??
Dont always blame the government for what they have done......look at yourself man.......their action is probably due to YOU !!
Your reasoning makes no sense. Why be proud of something that's not worth being proud of?
As for the last line... is it the fault of the Chinese people who don't like their country that China is poor and they're killing dogs? I don't think so.
= = okay.....okay.......
lets talk about the slaughtering dogs issue......
Human and Animals....
which one is more important?~~~
If killing dogs can improve people's lives..... Is it really a wrong choice???
dogs....dogs.....it is sad that they are killing those cutie pets in front of their owner....
but when we are actually eating their meat......we will not think about how they died......
like cows.....
you think they gonna give every single cow vaccines while we people are actually dying of hunger???
dont tell me we shouldnt kill them because that is cruel......
= = we are eating animals!!!!
Do you want to know how everyone in the world kill those animals????? Do you think it is wrong to chop off those turkeys' heads so we can have a turkey feast for thanxgiving~~~?
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Who is being blind here????LOL....
sorry my English sucks......my writing may not making any sense.....
I dont know about American ppl.....but that is actually what is happening in China....---> a lot of Chinese with great amount of money or knowledge go to other countries~~~ a few of them will come back to China when they succeed in those countries.......many of them dont like or dissapointed at China.....thinking staying in China will not make as much money as they would in foregin lands.....They dont have pride in their own country.....everyone flee from their motherland like many did 17 years ago.....SO.....HOW ON EARTH CAN CHINA BE STRONGER IF EVERY SMART ONE GO JOIN OTHER COUNTRIES......??
sign.....= =
China is China.....I love China and I am proud of it......that is nationalism.....Chinese comunist party/government is another issue......
you wont really understand another country unless you are that coutry's child.....
kk....I am done......this is like the 3rd time I post in this forum.....||||
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i wasn't expecting to see those pictures in the article, but seeing stuff like that makes me physically sick. it'd be different if it was just a dead dog, but seeing a picture of them actually beating it to death is disgusting. doing this for their cause is totally fine, but doing it the way they are is not...at least to me. they could at least kill them somewhat humanely making it a "quick death" or some kind of injection.
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