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xris
2006-11-20, 08:26
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IchiKyo
2006-11-21, 13:29
*Link deleted :)*
Do me a favor Light ^^
Don't turn like a hentaiman^^
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Shiroth
2006-11-21, 18:50
Shall be watching the episode tonight, but judging from the images - Ryuk searching for the camera's looks flipping genius. :3

Kamille-MkII
2006-11-22, 00:11
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a1/Dnep8.jpg

Iriliane
2006-11-22, 00:54
Anyone want to take a shot at explaining how he gets the TV into a sealed bag of potato chips. Does he explain it in dialogue or is it like those teleporting apples in episode 1?

Cai Calamigarde
2006-11-22, 13:15
yes, that is strange, indeed...
i think the only answer can be "the chips was not sealed" :confused:

Klashikari
2006-11-22, 14:12
it wasn't explained in the manga either so, don't pay too much attention to it

Iriliane
2006-11-22, 15:46
I'm currently working under the assumption that it was a Zip-Loc bag of some sort.

mikeon
2006-11-22, 18:00
Light's a genius. Maybe he had it prepared for some time and used one of those machines they show in those infomercials that can reseal plastic bags after you open them.

musouka
2006-11-22, 18:29
Light's a genius. Maybe he had it prepared for some time and used one of those machines they show in those infomercials that can reseal plastic bags after you open them.

I don't know. I'd think a genius could find a way to keep killing without blowing an obscene amount of money on a TV that will only be used once. :p

Reppa
2006-11-22, 20:15
L has more than his work cut on this. Light is still 10 steps ahead of them.

LightningZERO
2006-11-23, 04:28
LOL at the dramatic potato-eating scene

Codex
2006-11-23, 23:08
I'm surprised that, with 64 cameras in the room, they didn't use a better angle to look at what Light's doing than the camera that shows only his back.

Mashimaro
2006-11-23, 23:38
I'm going to go ahead and assume that he bought the potato chips when he went out to buy the camera then putting the camera into the bag.

Forever
2006-11-23, 23:41
Light's a genius. Maybe he had it prepared for some time and used one of those machines they show in those infomercials that can reseal plastic bags after you open them.

But what if someone else in the family accidently eats the chips?

musouka
2006-11-23, 23:42
But what if someone else in the family accidently eats the chips?

"Awesome! Free TV!"

myopius
2006-11-24, 02:14
LOL at the dramatic potato-eating scene
Yeah... Most dramatic line in the scene: "... and eat a potato chip!"

All in all a nice episode. I'm happy they had the line, "Fooled by the cover again..." When I saw the preview, it amazed me that we've already come this far in just 9 episodes. Oh, and I continue to be amazed at how well they draw L.

There's no way a tiny TV should cost that much.

lommm
2006-11-24, 03:10
"Take out a potato chip and eat it."

This shall be my new mantra. Repeat forty times, both morning and night.





but seriously, even with the trash being compacted, detectives can still go through it at the landfill, or stop the truck before it gets there... a smashed mini LCD tv is even more incriminating when it's inside a bag of potato chips...

anselfir
2006-11-24, 04:12
Now i've given up hope trying to believe either L or Kira is doing the most rational or probable thing, and just try to enjoy what they do. This epi is fairly good in that regard.

StrawHatLuffy
2006-11-24, 05:50
But what if someone else in the family accidently eats the chips?

According to Light, he is the only one in the family that eats that certain flavour. I think it's gonna be revealed sometime next episode.

Can't wait for the next episode. It's gonna be better than this ;)

[ ]
2006-11-24, 11:17
Anyone want to take a shot at explaining how he gets the TV into a sealed bag of potato chips. Does he explain it in dialogue or is it like those teleporting apples in episode 1?

Take bag of potato chips. Insert portable tv. Make sure to place some potato chips in front of the tv. Take potent superglue gun or other binding substance(in case edge is fatty. clean off first). Glue the edge of the bag. Press closed evenly by use of a book edge, small steel pipe or other even and heavy material or use even pressure. Place bag in cupboard.

Tadaa.

Lilith
2006-11-24, 11:36
Ep 8
My favorite part. <3

*Link deleted :)*
Do me a favor Light ^^
Don't turn like a hentaiman^^
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LOL! I thought that his attitude is a bit... cold. It's like he's not affected, he's flipping the pages as if it's a regular magazine. :heh:

Anyone want to take a shot at explaining how he gets the TV into a sealed bag of potato chips. Does he explain it in dialogue or is it like those teleporting apples in episode 1?
Light's tricks continue to amaze me and... sometimes annoy me. Yeah, I'd like to know the answer, too! I can't think of an explanations. Guess this is one of the several loopholes in Death Note.

I'm surprised that, with 64 cameras in the room, they didn't use a better angle to look at what Light's doing than the camera that shows only his back.
Maybe they did but didn't show us because it won't make a difference. This (http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1149/cameras1me4.jpg)is a map of the cameras. From the left, you can see the end of the bag which's sealed. From the right, you can see the front of the bag which's open, however, it's not clear because of the other chips part/shadow/Light's hand. Maybe if you zoomed in...

There's no way a tiny TV should cost that much.
I don't know much, but when I googled (http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=mini+portable+LCD+TV&hl=en)...

but seriously, even with the trash being compacted, detectives can still go through it at the landfill, or stop the truck before it gets there... a smashed mini LCD tv is even more incriminating when it's inside a bag of potato chips...
Currently, there's no reason for them to check of the trash. And even they did, Light can say that the TV was broken so he throwed it, right?

[ ]
2006-11-24, 11:48
Light's tricks continue to amaze me and... sometimes annoy me. Yeah, I'd like to know the answer, too! I can't think of an explanations. Guess this is one of the several loopholes in Death Note.

Does nobody ever read my posts T_T J/K
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Take bag of potato chips. Insert portable tv. Make sure to place some potato chips in front of the tv. Take potent superglue gun or other binding substance(in case edge is fatty. clean off first). Glue the edge of the bag. Press closed evenly by use of a book edge, small steel pipe or other even and heavy material or use even pressure. Place bag in cupboard.

Tadaa.

but still, that seems like a decent explanation as long as he makes sure theres no glue residue he can also place drops of glue on the very tips of the edge of the bag which would complete the appearance of being sealed even upon closer inspection.

leofish
2006-11-24, 12:54
I thought Ryuk's "withdrawl" from apples was even funnier than the potato chips XD handstands and sweat bubbles, lol.

Deathkillz
2006-11-24, 13:59
haha poor ryuk having spazms from being apple deprived :p
Light is smart but the plot hole is how did the dam mini tv get into the bag in the first place without the camra catching it...
imo light is leaving too much clues...L is smarter than this and will soon find the connection of light using reverse psycology...sometimes there is such a thing as being "too" normal...especially when being watched...

Strike Rouge
2006-11-24, 15:04
It really bothers me how Yagami has such little regard for human life. L realizes that he slipped up. One of the killed was a fraudulent banker and the other was a petty thief. Also, everyone's always saying how Yagami is ten steps ahead of L. But Yagami's ego is going to get him caught. In the tapes, Ray was clearly staring up at Kira and all it takes is a few interviews to figure out who was there at the time. This may be unlikely to work but what if there was a camera that shot the angle Ray was looking at? Yagami is leaving behind too many tracks and its gonna be somthing like this thats going to get him caught.

Then there's Naomi-san. Her body hasnt been found yet. Do you think she maybe left some sort of note behind? People leave suicide notes behind all the time. Kira didnt specify anything too elaborate surrounding the circumstances of her death. I will lol if her suicide ends up eing the one thing that gets him figured out ^^;

Codex
2006-11-25, 00:01
Maybe they did but didn't show us because it won't make a difference. This (http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1149/cameras1me4.jpg)is a map of the cameras. From the left, you can see the end of the bag which's sealed. From the right, you can see the front of the bag which's open, however, it's not clear because of the other chips part/shadow/Light's hand. Maybe if you zoomed in...

I wasn't talking about the bag of chips. I was talking about the fact that Light was still writing the death sentences in the Death Note. With the map you showed, the cameras in front of Light, on the bookshelves and his desk, should have been able to show that he was not studying for his exam, but rather writing in the Death Note.

musouka
2006-11-25, 00:03
With the map you showed, the cameras in front of Light, on the bookshelves and his desk, should have been able to show that he was not studying for his exam, but rather writing in the Death Note.

Light was writing on a scrap of paper in the bag of chips, not the Death Note itself. (The reason it looked like he was is because of the obviously reused footage from episode one. Oopsies, animators...)

EDIT: (Though upon my recheck at least they changed what he was writing. :p)

evil-samurai
2006-11-25, 00:30
I thought Ryuk's "withdrawl" from apples was even funnier than the potato chips XD handstands and sweat bubbles, lol.I really was laughing out-loud when we first saw Ryuk's reaction to not being able to eat apples anymore :heh:

To be honest on a whole I like this episode just as much as the last (Though still the last few moments of last episode are priceless.) The situation that Light was in and how we saw L monitor Light and heard and saw what his reaction was while he didn't know Light is Kira was certaining Interesting!

U<3Anime
2006-11-25, 02:11
Another, good episode that is well done. The art remains pretty consistant through
out the whole episode. Its funny how they made the scene so dramatic where Light eats chips and kills people at the same.

U<3Anime
2006-11-25, 02:13
It really bothers me how Yagami has such little regard for human life. L realizes that he slipped up. One of the killed was a fraudulent banker and the other was a petty thief. Also, everyone's always saying how Yagami is ten steps ahead of L. But Yagami's ego is going to get him caught. In the tapes, Ray was clearly staring up at Kira and all it takes is a few interviews to figure out who was there at the time. This may be unlikely to work but what if there was a camera that shot the angle Ray was looking at? Yagami is leaving behind too many tracks and its gonna be somthing like this thats going to get him caught.

Then there's Naomi-san. Her body hasnt been found yet. Do you think she maybe left some sort of note behind? People leave suicide notes behind all the time. Kira didnt specify anything too elaborate surrounding the circumstances of her death. I will lol if her suicide ends up eing the one thing that gets him figured out ^^;

She won't be found because Light wrote that she'll go suicide in place where no one will ever find her.

poolfan
2006-11-25, 03:44
I believe many people were saying this about the movie as well. Light doesn't seem to have any non-obvious way of looking at the TV screen in the potato chips bag. I mean there is no direct line of sight between him (in the sitting upright position) and the tv screen. To stoop down and take a chip out from the bag would be suspicious.

DownloadingData
2006-11-25, 05:04
Light is smart but the plot hole is how did the dam mini tv get into the bag in the first place without the camra catching it...

... just because they didn't show every single second of Light's doing doesn't mean it is a plot hole. It would be quite obvious to anybody that light had bought the portable TV previously and installed it in that certain bag of potato chips BEFORE the cameras were installed. Because, as he said, if he was rendered to be inaccessible to any TV or radio due to some unforseen circumstances, this would be his backup.

Rich
2006-11-25, 05:11
no offense but don't you think that 64 cameras in the room is a little bit extreme. HAHA you only need like 5 to see the whole room but what can i say? crazy Japs

porchoky
2006-11-25, 06:02
He sets up the potato chip and tv thing OUTSIDE his house, is the most reasonable explanation. yeah, 64 cameras...

Klashikari
2006-11-25, 06:20
no offense but don't you think that 64 cameras in the room is a little bit extreme. HAHA you only need like 5 to see the whole room but what can i say? crazy Japs

5 is really not enough.
camera doesn't have a huge angle sight (don't expect such 180°, this is impossible).
you have then already some blind spot near of the camera sides.

example : http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/908/roomcamera4vh2.jpg
Note this example is absolutely not accurate and is done only to understand the camera problem.

as you can see, the sight range is really narrow at the beginning. with 4 camera in an EMPTY room, you have already 4 blind spots (assuming the camera have an excellent range too).

so, you will have to deal with :
-height (a camera, especially miniaturized, won't be able to record a large place entirely)
-objects
-blind spot made by the object themself : if a curve is on the middle top, the bottom camera would see only the back of the curve, while the top camera won't be able to catch the curve on their side.
-distance (miniaturized camera don't really have a powerful sight, so it won't really cover a long distance, so some details on the opposite wall would be blurry etc.

so you have to put lot of other camera to compensate this.

and since Light's room isn't really plain (you have a bed etc), there are several levels and angles to set.

noir senshi
2006-11-25, 06:41
It seems that this episode was more a battle of perverts between L and Light.

Light: Dishes out the bikini magazine and also reveals his collection of dirty magazines.

L: Installs cameras in the Yagami house including toilet so he can "monitor" the Mother and Daughter.

hitokirigirl
2006-11-25, 09:25
Hell, after watching Busou renkin episode 6 and this one : it must be my hentai day. The way L said "he's 17, so it's normal" makes me wonder how old he is, that eating-instead-of-licking-cream monkey...

The 64 cameras stuff was waaaayyy exagerrated : it didn't even catch the potato bag inside ? WTF

Besides, I found strange Raito to keep eye on the garbage outside : I really hope the CD player or whatever it was is truly destroyed.

As people said, many thoughts and statements pop out from the characters mind without any explanation, at least a rational one. I would like it to turn like Monster about that investigation part.
And Raito is more and more becoming a twisted freak : how and when did he put that paper on his room door and the pen in the closet ?? He is showing true signs of paranoia........and he's totally right.

My thought, as someone said before, is that Raito is 10 step ahead. Thanks God he took days in advance writing criminals names...

Deathkillz
2006-11-25, 10:19
He sets up the potato chip and tv thing OUTSIDE his house, is the most reasonable explanation. yeah, 64 cameras...
yea thats the only reasonable explination...we did see light going out and buying stuff maybe he restocked the cupboard with his potato chips as well...but the things that L might catch on is why the hell is light eating the same bag of potato chips for a couple of hours while he was "studing"

and the cameras sux :p 64 of them and not one can zoom in :heh:

U<3Anime
2006-11-25, 11:20
Hell, after watching Busou renkin episode 6 and this one : it must be my hentai day. The way L said "he's 17, so it's normal" makes me wonder how old he is, that eating-instead-of-licking-cream monkey...

Hehehe and he says that he just does it for no reason xD. I think L is 22 or somewhere around his 20s.

hitokirigirl
2006-11-25, 15:12
Hehehe and he says that he just does it for no reason xD. I think L is 22 or somewhere around his 20s.

Haha, the way he talks calmly about it and his eyerings tells us he is a veteran in doing weird stuff :heh: :heh:

I hope the Yagami reality show will stop soon, otherwise Raito would definetely become crazy, being careful every second around him...

Besides, the animation is just incredible.

Trax
2006-11-25, 19:10
My thought, as someone said before, is that Raito is 10 step ahead. Thanks God he took days in advance writing criminals names...

I doubt that the writing in advance helps much, L could already have deduced that he can control the time of death from a previous situation. I thought that him casually looking through those magazines was a bit suspicious, he was *too* casual about it, without any real response to it. He might aswell have been looking through a dictionary. Also his reaction to the announcement on tv was kinda suspicious. Why bother making such a statement, unless he wanted to rub it in? As for the miniature tv, it seems he prepared that beforehand at some point. But unless he knew that nobody in the house likes potato chips, I would think that was a big risk. What if someone else in the family would get the munchies for potato chips? Using that tv to make an alibi for himself only makes him more suspicious because the targets were unlikely Kira targets. Or did he already go for light criminals like that?

Rich
2006-11-25, 20:11
5 is really not enough.
camera doesn't have a huge angle sight (don't expect such 180°, this is impossible).
you have then already some blind spot near of the camera sides.

example : http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/908/roomcamera4vh2.jpg
Note this example is absolutely not accurate and is done only to understand the camera problem.

as you can see, the sight range is really narrow at the beginning. with 4 camera in an EMPTY room, you have already 4 blind spots (assuming the camera have an excellent range too).

so, you will have to deal with :
-height (a camera, especially miniaturized, won't be able to record a large place entirely)
-objects
-blind spot made by the object themself : if a curve is on the middle top, the bottom camera would see only the back of the curve, while the top camera won't be able to catch the curve on their side.
-distance (miniaturized camera don't really have a powerful sight, so it won't really cover a long distance, so some details on the opposite wall would be blurry etc.

so you have to put lot of other camera to compensate this.

and since Light's room isn't really plain (you have a bed etc), there are several levels and angles to set.


well to keep it simple... for 5 camera.....

one can be in front of light
second can be behind him
third one can be on the left
forth can be on his right
fifth can be on the top.

i just think that 64 cameras is a little too outrageous and not realistic. HAHA

if i was to observe light i can't even see 64 screens at the same time:heh:

Klashikari
2006-11-25, 20:38
well to keep it simple... for 5 camera.....

one can be in front of light
second can be behind him
third one can be on the left
forth can be on his right
fifth can be on the top.

i just think that 64 cameras is a little too outrageous and not realistic. HAHA

if i was to observe light i can't even see 64 screens at the same time:heh:

the problem with such easy analogy is light position.
so, you are expecting observing light when he is ONLY sitting next to his desk?
as you can see, the desk isn't in the center of the room, but rather in a corner. let's say you have a camera in each direction, and one above...
how about the 3 others room corners? the blind spot are terrible huge if you are using linaer sight. (if we consider his desk at the bottom left corner, not only the top right corner is whide open, but you also have the center without anything around)

like i tried to show with my drawing, with such evident places (bias or not), you will note that with a plain area, you already have blind spots... so, with a dark, cluttered teenager room, this is pobably not good at all.

re-watch the episode, and pay attention on the camera scene (or else, look at lilith's picture of the camera (http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/1149/cameras1me4.jpg)): you will see their height, but also their sight direction. (you can see that there are 3 height level, also more than 2 camera per side : like 3-4 in the same height, at the same left/right side)
you will understand that light room is pretty long, and is around 3-4 metres tall, while the area is most likely bigger than 15m²
the wall aren't really free either : you see lots of shelf and all. (though it is nice to hide camera in there, it has a reversed edge : it creates more blind spot.)

if you put someone under observation, you would want to have EVERY move, every possibility recorded, EVEN if some area of the room will be most likely not suspicious.

if you leave some blind spot, what would guarantee that light wouldn't profit of this flaw?

in fact, light found the flaw : he used himself as a blindspot, and put the potato chips bag slighti in bias, so no camera would be able to see what it is inside, EXCEPT if a camera was on the desk itself.


i'm aware that "64" seem really an exaggerated number, but in reality, this is not that crazy. (though it's fictional, it is not that hard to believe that miniaturized camera has : horrible resolution, horrible angle sight, and horrible farsight)

if you increase the number of them, you just increase the possibility to find some clues (you don't really need to observe what does light... instead, you can also observe the room, and it surrounding. light was lucky enough to have some death note scrap in emergency, because if he would pick up te death note in his desk, he would be spotted : L would be wondering why Light would place a notebook in such sophisticated trap)


but as some said earlier, the anime fails with L : the camera choice was really dumb, simply moronic.

EfrainMan
2006-11-25, 22:04
I don't think 64 cameras is really excessive, only slightly. The room could probably be covered in about 30-40 cameras (I counted 24 in Liliths's screengrab). Since they're supposed to be super small to be well hidden, yeah they probably wouldn't be that good.

Also, there's the possibility a camera could be discovered by accident. A normal person would start searching and maybe find several cameras (maybe a dozen) and think "damn, 12 cameras? That's a lot" or until they felt satisfied and stop right there, leaving still a bunch more. You guys said it yourself, 64 cameras seems excessive. You'd probably stop after just several.

And I have to say, this was the funniest ep in the series so far...not a difficult task :heh:

Guido
2006-11-25, 22:53
This episode marks another well deserved ten from my ranking.

It's hard to take seriously the dense and foggy tension that both L and the investigation time are putting through when they're snacking on ice-cream scoops, all served courtesy from Watari; if you noted, Chief Yagami was served a bigger serving of ice-cream.

Second. It just amazes how Ryuk's intimidating looks and appearances washes all away when he's trying to play dumb in order to catch on Light's attention span. Not to judge the book by the cover, because I do not even think that Ryuk takes himself quite seriously and neither to literally mean his threats.

Third. The highlight was all the stylized freeze shots and frame cuts focused on Light opening the bag of chips with such a dramatized effects, as to mean the climax has peaked.
Writing names on his left hand, writing equations on his right hand, Ryuk going withdrawal in what would be the most vilest trap ever- putting on seemingly erotic poses.

Light's now metaphorically speaking on a boat crossing through a narrow trench full of tight, jagged turns. If he doesn't veer the boat on right angles, taking into the account both the speed, the overall mass of the boat, and the outlined shapes of each turn, then the boat will be scratched and slashed by the spiky ends once attempts to veer to clear that turn.

Let's not forget that L overanalyzed that the people killed once announced to the media where low-profile criminals, that is people arrested for minor crimes or small offenses.
When L knows better that until now Kira's been targetting the big fishes who had committed capital crimes.

Secondly, how can Light be so sure that nobody at the recycle center won't notice the crashed parts of the portable TV sticking out from the potato-chips bag?

wingdarkness
2006-11-25, 23:21
I''ve been biding my time patiently while watching this series...I finally caught up with everyone else so I can now post in this forum without the prospect of being spoiled...Like many I thought last episode was intelectually shattering, but I found this ep to also be quite remarkable in a different way...While Light is little too arrogant for his own good his deductions are quite nice at times...Him noticing that someone would go to the lengths of re-positioning his paper-trap exactly as it was before being the harbinger that he was under seige was well concieved...

As for L's constant countering to what he was seeing from Light I take that with a grain of salt...Obviously to the audience it seems as if Light is losing in some respects despite his seemingly perfect adaptations, but I see that as L's extreme...L personifies overkill in-terms of analysis and him being overly-speculative of Light's movments is more telling of L's obsessive inquisitive nature rather than Light's mishaps...While Light may be acting suspiciously "normal" I take it L would would equally bothered if he wasn't acting as "perfect"...To be sure it helps having an invisible reaper to aid you if you're Light which L could never comprehend or equate in his observations (The intel on the cameras from Ryruk is invaluable)...So basically I'd say Light is still ahead despite people thinking L is closer that he really is...Arrogant snot doesn't equal main-suspect...

As for the rest of this episode Ryruk's drug-addicted withdrawl from apples was too funny...I could see that even being a bargaining chip with Light at some point^^....Also L slurping ice-cream as he psyco-babbles Light's actions was, well, weird...Light has some house-cleaning to do but he's far from being a main suspect IMO...Anyways can't wait for the next episode of this great series...

Darashinai
2006-11-26, 06:29
Writing names on his left hand, writing equations on his right hand
...and that's what didn't set well with me THIS episode. Talk about f'in unlikely....how about f'in impossible. It's brainsurgery enough to write kanji with one's naturally used hand, but with the other?! Legibly?! Not to mention, how does he know that he's writing the correct kanji for the name? (Oh, right, he can see the TV through the bag!! What was *I* thinking?!?!?!) How many forms of Youko and Watanabe are there?!?! Impossible not that he's somehow that ambidexterous, but that circumstances would exist for the owner of the Death Note to be ambidexterous. It's just....*throws up hands* When will the madness end?!

And no one's explained how Light could hear the TV and the cameras in front of his desk didn't.


Secondly, how can Light be so sure that nobody at the recycle center won't notice the crashed parts of the portable TV sticking out from the potato-chips bag?
He can't be!!! The only people more anal in the world than L are recycle center workers in Japan. :heh:

If one were to shout plot-hole (or really annoyingly convenient circumstance), I'd go with my first comment.

That said, props to Ryuk! :heh:

Lilith
2006-11-26, 07:06
Darashinai... :D

I do not have knowledge of kanji or writing it, however, I can assume that it's a possible task if the name is on TV and all you have to do is copy it, is it not?

He can see the TV from the opening of the bag, I don't find it strange at all (just praise his really good eye sight, hehe). It didn't mention him listening to the TV, just watching it. So, the mics can't catch anything. And what Klashikari said!

Klashikari
2006-11-26, 07:08
And no one's explained how Light could hear the TV and the cameras in front of his desk didn't.

it was explained in the manga that Light only pay attention to the name of the criminals written on the screen. he didn't hear anything.


EDIT : lilith was too fast ~~

Mgz
2006-11-26, 09:27
I'm not sure how Light is gonna get away for -300USD in his bank account now...L will check on Light account balance and might find that it is suspicious :/

Deathkillz
2006-11-26, 09:43
well maybe he has some cold hard cash stuffed under his bed? :p

Lilith
2006-11-26, 13:12
Hehe. Or maybe he bought it a long time ago and only now used it in the bag of chips trick?

zka
2006-11-26, 15:44
Loved the episode. The things Light prepared are nasty ;D although I think he exaggerated a bit with those comments in the living room and with killing "small" crooks... One would think that he should know already about that L will notice it and... yeah... catch up

Last but not least... Ryuk can dance ;D

Sinestra
2006-11-26, 18:03
I hope everyone had a good thanksgiving unless your a criminal and Light probaly didnt allow you to make it that far. It amazed me how smart and how far ahead light thinks about things. I mean the things he does to see if someone has gone in his room and the writing of criminals names in the deathnote just encase something happens to him is stunning. But L is also amazing not leaving one clue unturned the sheer amount of cameras he placed around the house was insaine and whats more insaine is that Light not only discovered them but manipluated Ryuk into finding the locations of all of them on top of that he realised that the tv broadcast was just a trick to test Kiras reaction to the announcment of 1500 agents coming to japan. However when L learns that Penbars finace killed her self and the fact that one of the agents working on the kira case saw her things will get intresting indeed. Light is such a dick i would tell him to go to hell but im affraid he might outwit satan and take over

Lilith
2006-11-27, 03:49
Light is such a dick i would tell him to go to hell but im affraid he might outwit satan and take over
:heh:

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Sorrow-K
2006-11-27, 07:36
Then there's Naomi-san. Her body hasnt been found yet. Do you think she maybe left some sort of note behind? People leave suicide notes behind all the time.Not always. That's just a Hollywood myth. A significant amount of people get depressed and just kill themselves with no warning and leaving no note behind. Anyway, since Light didn't command Naomi to leave a note, there's no reason she would have.

Good episode. I'm actually surprised L managed to narrow the group of possibles down as quickly as he did. Obviously the game between L and Light still has a long way to go, but it seems they're about to have a number of head-on battles very soon. But it looks like Light isn't quite as many steps ahead as he was just a few episodes ago. What really impressed me in this ep was that neither party made a stupid move.... on this occassion it was purely a case of Light outwitting L (or Detective Yagami at least), although the war is far from won. Light in particular has had a rush of blood on a few occassions (ep 2 when he killed the fake L) or a few times where he hasn't been in complete control (last ep when he was trying to get Naomi's name), but he seemed a lot more aware and in control in this ep.

Kinny Riddle
2006-11-27, 11:39
No matter how many times I watch this scene, whether in the manga, movie or anime, I can't help laughing at Ryuk's hopelessness at not having any apples to eat.

Gotta love the way Madhouse makes eating a bag of chips look so dramatic. lol

White Manju Bun
2006-11-27, 14:01
Nice epi, I only wish the animators hadnt used footage from epi 1, I was like disappointed when I saw that. But Light opening the bag in dramatic fashion was funny. Ryuk is definitely more funny in this epi, I loved when he was trying to get Light's attention.

Doraneko
2006-11-27, 14:24
Not sure why everyone thinks so deep into the potato-bag sealing issue and doubts on the feasibility of getting one sealed without a production line. I once had a sealer myself, and it is nothing magical or of high technology. They were everywhere and I could simply pick one in the supermarkets and grocery stores with a cost of like US$2. It looks just like a stapler with heating conductors. To seal a potato-bag/plastic-bag, All you need to do is to press the sealer along the opening of the bag. The heat from the conductors will melt the edges and get it sealed.

Sorry but seems like this is off-topic :P

Sinanju
2006-11-28, 18:06
Only thing I'd think would be really strange is that the TV doesn't light up inside the bag. Try putting a tv inside a potato-chips bag and then say it doesn't light up the bag (of the opening of the bag)