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anti-random
2007-08-17, 01:33
somebody needs to kill nina shes lost it! then again she can be geassed into a very useful weapon if she gets sent to the goverment headquarters and OOTBK legs it like hell!
so, so , so true. The purpose of her character has been fulfilled and we don't near her. And she really REALLY ANNOYS ME
Jeffry2009
2007-08-17, 13:15
Will nunnaly be saved? Or this could be the end of nunnally on the next code geass?
Methuselah
2007-08-17, 13:34
She'll probably be in the Mental Health Facility as for as I can tell.
Will nunnaly be saved? Or this could be the end of nunnally on the next code geass?
She dies, Lelouch looses his reason for fighting and probably his will to live. I see him being more than capable of killing himself if he lost Nunnally, so I don't see it happening.
anti-random
2007-08-17, 17:48
She dies, Lelouch looses his reason for fighting and probably his will to live. I see him being more than capable of killing himself if he lost Nunnally, so I don't see it happening.
That's true. Very true. But what happened if Suzaku hurts Nunally. Then LL will go all berserk like or maybe Nunally will forgive Suzaku.
I don't see Suzaku hurting Nunnally. He seems to care a lot for her. Plus he was talking about protecting her in ep 25. Part of the reason Lelouch lost it so badly with him.
Well if Nunally dies then the story ends or it becomes all about revenge. But I don't see Lelouch having any will to actually continue if she dies. Her little bounce was probably not her dieing but it may be a sign (metaphorical) that someone close to her did or was really badly hurt. Only person I can see die is Suzaku but somehow... I don't see that happening.
OMG_Zerg_Rush
2007-08-18, 03:04
Her little bounce was probably not her dieing but it may be a sign (metaphorical) that someone close to her did or was really badly hurt. Only person I can see die is Suzaku but somehow... I don't see that happening.
From Omnis blog Suzaku may end up in a living hell — “Suzaku won’t be able to die even if he wanted to” and “Suzaku’s future may not be a happy one”
Suzaku shot in the back by Kallen making him a cripple would fit these.
Suzaku shot in the back by Kallen making him a cripple would fit these.
I don't see that happening though. We know he's been wanting to die for some time. And now having lost someone who he loved is easily a way for him to be in living hell without being crippled, since he's been suicidal for a long time. And now with the geass, he can't willingly kill himself, or put himself in a situation where he knows he'll be killed. That is why Suzaku won't be able to kill Lelouch in that scene. At best he can injure him in a non-fatal area so the bomb Lelouch has won't go off. So yeah, being forced to live even when you don't want to is not a nice propect for anyone. Especially someone like Suzaku who's not exactly stable mentally.
anti-random
2007-08-18, 05:10
I think its probably some other person (you other then Nunally, Suzaku,LL or Kallen) who gets shot. I mean you really don't know there surroundings
kira-sama
2007-08-18, 06:45
maybe V.V got shot? "i think impossible hehehehe"
I think that Lelouch will be shoot, but not very seriously, in hand with gun for example.
I think that Lady Marienne could be witch too, just like C.C. was and there lies theirs connection, C.C. talks with someone invisible stuff and that why she knows that Nanaly was kidnapped. So if Emperor is plotting with V.V. (inquisitor, haha) he eventually finds out that his wife was witch with some kind of strange power, so he wanted to exterminate her. But then there's strange possibility, that she survives with this strange power to heal herself like C.C. have and she lives somewhere. So her body isn't in coffin and Schneizer took it...? So Lelouch and Nanaly thinks she's dead, but she's living in some small cell. Maybe there was some kind of strange prophecy which says something about Lulu (geass and this stuff from ancient times). C.C. knows garden of Airies, but she tells Lulu she'd say him when time comes - she was there with Marienne...? And there's too geass matter - why C.C. is so desperate to don't let Lelouch die? She needs him for something, of course, but if Lulu dies she can also give geass power to someone else, like she gives it to Mao. And so she put her life on line for him... Strange. Maybe she can pass geass power only to few persons - Lulu as son of witch maybe is one of them. And scene when Suzaku and Lulu (as Zero) first time met in Kaminejima and strange things started to happen - there was quick shot of someone's grim smile. And it was V.V. And when Lelouch lost control of geass and had given to Euphie this stupid command - his father was laughting and saying something like "he really did it!". Like he knows what he did. Too much questions.
kira-sama
2007-08-21, 03:28
that's mean
emperor know what is geass power?
i think marianne also got geass power from C.C
That would be interesting ;) And it's fitting nice. Once I thoght that C.C could be Marienne, but I think that'd be too hardcore XD
fatyandao
2007-08-22, 06:40
If the possibility of Nina being geassed before the attack is there,
It'll be a great twist to see an overturn of victory...
You know, she could move herself to the government office, and no one can shoot the Ganymede (is it volatile? Don't shoot, don't shoot!)
If the possibility of Nina being geassed before the attack is there,
It'll be a great twist to see an overturn of victory....
You know, she could move herself to the government office, and no one can shoot the Ganymede (is it volatile? Don't shoot, don't shoot!)
Would be sweet if that was the case, blow the f**king Brittanians to oblivion :heh:
However I doubt Nina was under the influence of geass since there wasnt the red glow around her pupils. Im guessing the Chinese federation or EU forces coming to aid the OoBK, or perhaps Nina, in her crazed mental state, detonates the bomb and destroys the entire Tokyo settlement along with everyone :twitch:
anti-random
2007-08-23, 01:24
I frankly don't care about Nina. But I don't see EU or Federations force heading to help Britannia. And even if OoBK won the Tokyo battle they would get crushed by the Britannia forces heading to japan.
kira-sama
2007-08-23, 09:33
same!!! don't care Nina
i hope she disappear soon
I would like to see her blowing up herself or sth. She can be perfect sacrifice for new Lelouch world! Hope fast.
I would like to see her blowing up herself or sth. She can be perfect sacrifice for new Lelouch world! Hope fast.
I think her development was done to give Lelouch a way out of what happened at the end of 25. Then again, she could be talked out of it but that seems less likely, and is less valuable to the plot than the former.
As long as she takes Tamaki and others with here i don't care how she dies/dissappears :D
There's too many important people she'll take out if she blows it up, so either she's talked out of it, or it fails to go off, since she did say it might not.
AlexBlack
2007-08-25, 07:39
Somebody knows when will be next season Code Geass??
VetaMega
2007-08-25, 09:02
I'm wondering who Suzaku's mother might be. We already know his father and Lelu's father and mother. It seems like family members are extremely impotent in this anime. I kind do feel sorry for whoever is Suzaku's mother though - There seems to be trend of unkind fates for two protagonist's family members.
At the end of the episode 24-25 , we see some kind of picture reprensting a
knight on the background ( This what i think :) ) in red color.
I want to believe that the Emperor have got a Cheated Knightmare ( Black Lancelot ) :)
strike_akabane
2007-08-27, 00:22
All I can speculate is that C.C and Orange-kun will miraculously rise from the ocean, alive for "merchandise reasons". :uhoh: I mean, C.C's last words with Lelouch really implied that she was going to die, even though she can survive a bullet going through her head, but noooo Orange-kun's new mecha will push the Gawain up from the depths of the deep Pacific Ocean and bring her back to safety! Huzzah! :rolleyes: They're both too popular to die right now...
It would be a cool plot twist if they actually died though :heh:
Ah, and yes. Nina should be excluded from Code Geass along with here nuclear bomb er whatever. Shoo shoo
Juvyniled
2007-08-27, 21:47
Orange is a joke, he should've been axed when he lost his role as one of the lieutenants or high ranking officials or whatever.
C.C. dying is far from a cool plot twist. There's too much of her background left untold. If she's gone, who's left to tell her tale? V.V.? A conveniently placed diary?
strike_akabane
2007-08-28, 01:59
Orange is a joke, he should've been axed when he lost his role as one of the lieutenants or high ranking officials or whatever.
*nods furiously*
C.C. dying is far from a cool plot twist. There's too much of her background left untold. If she's gone, who's left to tell her tale? V.V.? A conveniently placed diary?
lmao it'd be funny if she did keep a secret diary in Lelouch's room. Hrmmm, but then I don't get why Sunrise would show her "dieing" in the first place. Sure we don't know her real name, where she came from, her motivation, or what the hell she is! But what was the point of that whole "dramatic" scene? I guess Taniguchi needed to exclude her from the picture for a moment in order for the interaction between Suzaku, Lelouch, Kallen, and perhaps V.V and/or Nunnaly to make sense.
And the next thing you know, C.C will be eating pizza when Lelouch comes out of the cave like nothing happened and say like, "you told me not to die right?" er somthing:eyebrow: Maybe V.V knows something about her? iono
What do they have in store for us in the second season...
I waited all the way till yesterday to finally conclude this first season. What a rush, huh? XD
C.C. dying is far from a cool plot twist. There's too much of her background left untold. If she's gone, who's left to tell her tale? V.V.? A conveniently placed diary?
Plot twist? I'd say the story would be over if she dies. While we can see the effect of Euphemia's death (by which the consequences were well executed in 24/25) -- I'm curious what would happen if Nunnally dies.
All I can speculate is that C.C and Orange-kun will miraculously rise from the ocean
Seriously needs to get rid of Orange. As a loser "test subject" -- he's pretty much downgraded to insignificant. "Emotionally" - he has little to no ties to any of the other characters, aside from kicking Zero's butt. However, plenty of people fill that position already.
From C.C's final epilogue, it does sound to me like Nunnally or Lelouch will die. My money's on Nunnally tho, it's not uncommon for characters central to the main proantagonist to die as part of building up the character.
C.C's past, Marianne, the Emperor are all still a mystery. How did Suzaku detect C.C? Is it because of previous contact or does he still have a bigger role to play in the whole scheme (Geass/Ragnarok)?
There's still Shirley and Viletta. If S2 is going to wrap up the series (which i hope it does), there's definitely a lot of things surrounding Lelouch that still need to be explained for him to die off.
Terrestrial Dream
2007-08-29, 15:21
From C.C's final epilogue, it does sound to me like Nunnally or Lelouch will die. My money's on Nunnally tho, it's not uncommon for characters central to the main proantagonist to die as part of building up the character.
C.C's past, Marianne, the Emperor are all still a mystery. How did Suzaku detect C.C? Is it because of previous contact or does he still have a bigger role to play in the whole scheme (Geass/Ragnarok)?
There's still Shirley and Viletta. If S2 is going to wrap up the series (which i hope it does), there's definitely a lot of things surrounding Lelouch that still need to be explained for him to die off. From what I saw in the epilogue Lelouch will probably will die probably at the end of second season while Nunnally will live.
anti-random
2007-08-29, 23:55
As if he will, people are gonna riot on the streets in Japan if that happened. Smash everything and blah blah blah. Leloch won't die.
mist2123
2007-08-30, 12:02
Its really ironic if the Creators of CG made japan lose in season 2. Shouldnt they support their own COUNTRY! TRAITORS!!!!!
From C.C's final epilogue, it does sound to me like Nunnally or Lelouch will die. My money's on Nunnally tho, it's not uncommon for characters central to the main proantagonist to die as part of building up the character.
C.C's past, Marianne, the Emperor are all still a mystery. How did Suzaku detect C.C? Is it because of previous contact or does he still have a bigger role to play in the whole scheme (Geass/Ragnarok)?
There's still Shirley and Viletta. If S2 is going to wrap up the series (which i hope it does), there's definitely a lot of things surrounding Lelouch that still need to be explained for him to die off.
Nunnally is the last person I see dying, at lest anytime soon since I see Lelouch suiciding if that happens. She's everything to him, and he's been shown as willing to kill himself when faced with the prospect of returning to his life before he met C.C. Nunnally is all he has in the world, and as such he'll have nothing left to live for if she dies. Ep 25 illustrates this very clearly when he goes off to save as soon as he finds out she's been kidnapped. He said it himself, everything is for nothing if something happens to her. Therefore she can't die anytime soon.
I also don't see Lelouch dying. From her monologue it sounds to me that she's hoping for fate to be overcome, which is what Lelouch would be doing if he achieves what he's doing and lives.
Destinyblade
2007-08-30, 18:15
It's now been confirmed (through a TV Commerical) that the second season of Shakugan no Shana will be replacing Darker Than BLACK in MBS's 25:25 Thursday timeslot.
So unless TBS/MBS intends to create another timeslot, it seems like the Geass sequel won't be coming this Fall (which is somewhat not surprising, considering the lack of info lately). If that is indeed the case, darn. I was kinda hoping that rumor about Geass airing for two cours, taking two cours off, and then running for two more cours would be true. Perhaps I'll have more anime to look forward to in Spring '08 than Fall '07 possibly.
Do we know how many eps Shakugan no Shana is?
mist2123
2007-08-31, 16:22
Do we know how many eps Shakugan no Shana is?
probably the same as the 1st season
*Is hoping for shorter so that CG could air in January*
I can hope.
Sarugaki
2007-09-02, 14:29
From what I saw in the epilogue Lelouch will probably will die probably at the end of second season while Nunnally will live.
I think so too and it kind of pisses me off. I hate it when a great storyline gets ruined with predictable patterns ( hello morality ). It would be tthe exact same ending as another popular anime whose storyline is very similar to code geass'.
This is why I think both will live.
He must die. For the fun of it. If he lives then it's pathetic ending to a great anime.
Sarugaki
2007-09-02, 15:29
He must die. For the fun of it. If he lives then it's pathetic ending to a great anime.
Why "pathetic" ? Care to explain ?
It's a story where none of the main protagonists are all good or all evil.
Like I said earlier, the outcome is predictable, the hero is damned, will suffer and die like in a Greek tragedy.
If you like that kind of pattern, good for you, but what I like is being surprised, regardless of the outcome ( I don't really care about the Lelouch character, that's what I mean )
Jeffry2009
2007-09-02, 19:29
It's now been confirmed (through a TV Commerical) that the second season of Shakugan no Shana will be replacing Darker Than BLACK in MBS's 25:25 Thursday timeslot.
So unless TBS/MBS intends to create another timeslot, it seems like the Geass sequel won't be coming this Fall (which is somewhat not surprising, considering the lack of info lately). If that is indeed the case, darn. I was kinda hoping that rumor about Geass airing for two cours, taking two cours off, and then running for two more cours would be true. Perhaps I'll have more anime to look forward to in Spring '08 than Fall '07 possibly.
I told you Guys. Code Geass Will Continue in 2008.
JediNight
2007-09-03, 01:27
I feel the opposite way actually. Remember that CC said at the start of the series that Lelouch would alienate himself from everyone and lose all that he holds dear in attaining the power of Geass.
So I expect that Lelouch will be alive at the end with CC, but he will have lost his friendships with everyone he's known. And most likely Nunnally will die at some point, or at the very least hate his brother and never want to speak to him again after everything he's done in her name. It just fits the bill better IMHO.
I feel that he will live and still retain at least some friends. Like you said everything points to him either dying or at least loosing everything. This is why I feel that to still have at least somethings is the way to go since it seems to be suggesting that the proper end is for Lelouch to defy destiny. I don't see him having everything, since that'd be too perfect an ending, and I doubt anyone wants that.
Darksage12
2007-09-03, 13:14
I think Kallen/ Karen shoots Suzaku. I only heard ONE gun shot, not two; so either Suzaku or Lelouch didn't shoot. Or they both didn't.
But why would Kallen shoot Suzaku?
1: To save her own sexy butt. Remember the bomb Lelouch put on his body that would destroy the entire island if his heart stops beating?
2: Because she wants to kill Lelouch herself. She can't do that if Suzaku already killed him, can she?
3: To save Lelouch because she is madly in love with him. [I don't see that happen, plotwise].
The problem with that is it's shown right before the shot is heard that she's in no position to shoot anyone. She doesn't have Suzaku reflexes, so unless she just randomly fired to get their attention, I don't see it being her.
I have to agree with Kallen shooting because even though at the last moment all she's doing is watching, she still has a gun at hand. And if Suzaku is the one to shoot then Lelouch is dead which means everyone on the island is dead(which I think most definitely will not happen). So I think its either kallen shooting Suzaku or Lelouch shooting Suzaku. Either way I think Suzaku is getting shot >_>
Suzaku can still shoot. He just can't shoot to kill.
But his intentions now are to kill unlike before. He's been on a killing spree ever since Euphie died.
Yes, but the geass Lelouch put on him will ensure he won't kill Lelouch since it'd be suicide for Suzaku which he can't do anymore. His intention may be to kill, but the geass command willprevent him from carrying that out as long as Lelouch has that bomb on.
Juvyniled
2007-09-03, 18:00
Geass is dependent on the affected person's mentality. In the case of Suzaku and the command place upon him, it would only trigger should Suzaku believe that he will die, elsewise there are some inconsistencies.
I cite these sources:
The initial reaction is on the island. Geass triggers because Suzaku realizes and accepts his death.
Semi-counterpoint, during the counterattack against the Chinese Federation, Suzaku essentially gave up when the energy supply on his frame was running out. If that does not denote a likelihood of death, then I don't know what would. But... Geass did not trigger until the very moment that Euphemia told him to live. It was at that very moment that Suzaku realized a possibility of death; Geass cannot realize death on it's own because it does not have a subconscious mind of its own. Unless of course some producer would intervene and declare otherwise.
In conclusion, even though Lelouch told Suzaku what would happen as a result of his death, Suzaku would have to buy into that notion in order for the command to trigger. So what do I think? He either 1) doesn't believe it, 2) is not concerned with that detail subconsciously and therefore there is no realization of it or 3) he never had an intention of killing Lelouch in the first place.
Darksage12
2007-09-04, 08:35
What also could happen is this:
Lelouch gets killed. Yes, they can kill him without making the Japanese people rebel against Sunrise or CLAMP.
:confused: How would you do that?? :confused:
Pretty simple:
Suzaku kills Lelouch [or Karen does, that's not relevant]
Then, the liquid bomb on Lelouch's body will explode and the entire isle will be destroyed. Suzaku, Kallen, Nunnaly and Lelouch die, but V.V. will probably miraculesly survive. He is immortal after all [that is, if he is the same "race" as C.C.] C.C. herself goes into hiding.
Shirley, Viletta[that was her name right?] and Cornelia will all be able to testify that Lelouch was actually Zero. [Cornelia probably won't tell anyone Lelouch was 2nd in line to the throne but that doesn't really matter either].
Karen went missing of course, but Shirley, Rivalz and the others already know she was a companion of Zero, so her disappearence shouldn't be a problem either.
Brittannia keeps ruling over "Area 11", which will piss off the Japanese and they will remember Zero/ Lelouch as a hero.
About 10 years after Zero dies, a new protagonist will rise and will try to bring down the Brittannian Empire. He is probably much kinder than Lelouch and is probably a big fan of Zero.
He will become the next "Zero" and approach a group of rebels/ terrorists to create a "second order of Black Knights".
Then eventually, C.C. will approach the new Zero saying that she will give him "Geass"; the power Lelouch used to lead his forces to victory.
Of course, the new Zero will happely accept this new power, although he knows that he might get a different Geass then Lelouch got and he also knows that it might ruin his relationships with other people.
And that, will mark the beginning of a second series for Code Geass: The return of Zero.
Or something like that. This idea is purely based on my own wickid fantasies and my own irrational thinking.
seraphon
2007-09-04, 13:34
sad that the fact that lelouch is confirmed to be present in season 2 contradicts your previsions
Methuselah
2007-09-04, 17:22
Ah, but he might be present and become an important role in the series by being there for 5 good minutes. *wink. Just kidding.
:D
Suzaku has been the biggest ass throughout the whole series. Everytime he shows up in the anime, it seems to hit one of my nerves :frustrated:
lightbringer
2007-09-04, 21:46
Darksage's theory is of course completely from the loony bin and has zero point zero percent chance of happening, but I can see how one might wish for everyone to just die on the island. Especially Suzaku (idealistic whiner), but to some extent Nunnally (useless invalid), Kallen (Zero fangirl), and even Lelouch (Machiavellian terrorist). Well, that's pretty extreme though :heh:
Oh, and I don't think "five minutes plus flashbacks" qualifies for Lelouch's "interesting role in season 2" :heh: Plus, he's supposed to get it on with some/all of his harem, and he can't do that if he bites the dust right away.
Juvyniled
2007-09-04, 23:13
It's sickening personally to think that they would include any romance involving Lelouch with anyone apart from C.C. For one thing, there's a pretty tight bond there (regardless of ulterior motives). And secondly.... I think someone just set a machine in motion, like say a widespread rebellion? If anything, romance shouldn't have any place whatsoever following the end of this last season (I'd imagine there'd be constant turmoil from here on out with very sparse moments of break). And I don't think Lelouch would be able to just waltz back to his fellow classmates and enjoy a nice fling with his fellow female companions. It's all entirely demeaning to the show, except the relationship (not just a physical attraction or emotional bonding type relationship) between C.C. and Lelouch which appears to be paving way to an important side story.
Meatrose
2007-09-05, 00:03
It's sickening personally to think that they would include any romance involving Lelouch with anyone apart from C.C. For one thing, there's a pretty tight bond there (regardless of ulterior motives). And secondly.... I think someone just set a machine in motion, like say a widespread rebellion? If anything, romance shouldn't have any place whatsoever following the end of this last season (I'd imagine there'd be constant turmoil from here on out with very sparse moments of break). And I don't think Lelouch would be able to just waltz back to his fellow classmates and enjoy a nice fling with his fellow female companions. It's all entirely demeaning to the show, except the relationship (not just a physical attraction or emotional bonding type relationship) between C.C. and Lelouch which appears to be paving way to an important side story.
Yes, there is a really tight bond between Lelouch and C.C., but the possible ulterior motive that C.C. might or might not have, depending on its nature, might possibly make Lelouch hate her. I have no idea whatsoever what it is, if there even is one, but since I know nothing about it, I won't dismiss it as something that doesn't hold the possibility of coming between them. I still agree with most of you (you included Juvyniled)... the most probable pairing is still Lelouch and C.C.
But... in my opinion, C.C. isn't the only possibility. Sure, the fact that Lelouch is Zero, arguably the one person in the world who has the means to stand up to the Britannian empire, makes it nothing short of impossible for him to engage in a serious (honest) relationship with anyone outside his inner circle. What I mean though, is that depending on how Kallen will choose to act on the recent turn of events, there might be one more runner-up. I think it would be outright stupid of Sunrise not to act on this... a C.C.xLelouchxKallen-drama would be a nice way of spicing up the character-oriented drama in season 2. But I don't know... perhaps I'm a part of a really tiny minority sporting that particular opinion. :upset:
Juvyniled
2007-09-05, 02:27
I can honestly say that you're very likely not in the minority (a lot of people are hoping for a harem outcome).
But considering that Japan is still going to be the forefront of all the action for the rest of the series... and given how the situation is at the moment, I can't quite possibly believe that there is room for romance (though I don't put it past them to attempt such a result) unless there is a moment of peace. Add to the fact that Lelouch spends a majority of his time with C.C.... I'd say it's a pretty good indicator, and he's already devoted himself to her whims (whatever they may be).
I simply have an issue with all this romance. If they would create some sort of scenario between Lelouch and Kallen, fans might hope that such a situation occurs between many of the female casts... and there is already enough of plot material left to cover in the series. Leave the fantasies to Doujinshi and let the show go on without it. It'd be better anyhow.
I'm certainly glad they didn't plan to explore possible romance between Suzaku and Euphemia. It's meaningless to detract from such potential that the show has already built up, romance is simply better suited for a show that was already initially geared in that direction.
I can honestly say that you're very likely not in the minority (a lot of people are hoping for a harem outcome).
But considering that Japan is still going to be the forefront of all the action for the rest of the series... and given how the situation is at the moment, I can't quite possibly believe that there is room for romance (though I don't put it past them to attempt such a result) unless there is a moment of peace. Add to the fact that Lelouch spends a majority of his time with C.C.... I'd say it's a pretty good indicator, and he's already devoted himself to her whims (whatever they may be).
I simply have an issue with all this romance. If they would create some sort of scenario between Lelouch and Kallen, fans might hope that such a situation occurs between many of the female casts... and there is already enough of plot material left to cover in the series. Leave the fantasies to Doujinshi and let the show go on without it. It'd be better anyhow.
I'm certainly glad they didn't plan to explore possible romance between Suzaku and Euphemia. It's meaningless to detract from such potential that the show has already built up, romance is simply better suited for a show that was already initially geared in that direction.
With Suzaku and Euphemia, I'd say they spent a good bit of time on that relationship. They simply put it within the plots events, so they did not detract from the time spent on important occurrences. The same can be said for CC, Lelouch, and Kallen. They all developed during the plot-flow, not off-beat moments that just waste time.
I don't think anyone wants a Harem, not from this kind of show, I think they want to just see a triangle form between Kallen, Lelouch, and CC.
Also the next season is supposed to be on the global scale, is it not. So the only real important characters, female, that will be close to Lelouch will be CC and Kallen, depending on her decision at the end of 25. And as it stands, Season two is going to have Drama developments and relationships so we are just speculating as to what they will be pulling out of their hats.
Darksage12
2007-09-05, 12:02
I think they want to just see a triangle form between Kallen, Lelouch, and CC.
I want that to happen, really.
By the way. Does anyone know/ think/ suspect there'll be more characters like "Mao" in the second season??
I think the show would go nuts if they all joined forces with Lelouch.
"I command you to use your Geass on my enemies!!"
XD. It would be funny though.:heh:
The whole thing with Mao was annoying for me mainly because of his character I guess >_>
Mao was pretty cool imo, just annoying that he refuse to die (he manage to survive a hail of bullet while Euphie got offed by just one?).
Juvyniled
2007-09-06, 11:58
Euphemia had no supernatural powers... but yeah, he managed to survive all those gunshots AND he was rejuvenated by special medicine that couldn't be applied to Euphemia... but oh well.
Mao was cool? To each their own I guess....
Personally, the three most annoying characters for me are Mao, Jeremiah and Nina. They just had to throw the super-crazed highly intelligent lesbian into the mix and they just had to keep that horrible joke of a fruit alive (I guess it made it worse for me that people actually liked him). Mao is probably the least annoying of those three since he did die and it's quite forgiveable considering that he wasn't just another spoiled brat who turned out like that.
Personally, the three most annoying characters for me are Mao, Jeremiah and Nina. They just had to throw the super-crazed highly intelligent lesbian into the mix and they just had to keep that horrible joke of a fruit alive (I guess it made it worse for me that people actually liked him). Mao is probably the least annoying of those three since he did die and it's quite forgiveable considering that he wasn't just another spoiled brat who turned out like that.
I agree with you, those are also my top 3 most annoying characters. Why doesn't Jeremiah just give it up, it's so annoying, he seems to be overreacting the whole Orange -thing. And Mao died soon, thank god! Nina is... she is just a b*tch. A shy one, which is kinda weird, but she's a real pain in the ass, for everyone. :eyebrow:
Mao was fun in the way that he manipulates his opponent by reading their thoughts compare to just overwriting em the way Lelouch does heh especially the way he prod and tease people's weakness to break down their will.
Toss in a psycho mentality along with it makes a far more interesting bad guy.
Agreed though, Nina is just whacked but so then again, so are a good deal of the characters.
Mao was fun in the way that he manipulates his opponent by reading their thoughts compare to just overwriting em the way Lelouch does heh especially the way he prod and tease people's weakness to break down their will.
Toss in a psycho mentality along with it makes a far more interesting bad guy.
Agreed though, Nina is just whacked but so then again, so are a good deal of the characters.
We should make a poll for the most whacked character. :heh: Whacked: Suzaku, Nina, Mao, Orange, Cornelia... most of the main character base wow.
Not whacked: C.C., Milly, Arthur, Rivalz.
Limbo: Shirley, Lelouch, Kallen, Villeta, Ougi.
I think that covers it, lol.
kira-sama
2007-09-08, 01:35
the three most annoying characters for me is Nina
she's so annoying
mangastuff
2007-09-08, 05:48
What also could happen is this:
About 10 years after Zero dies, a new protagonist will rise and will try to bring down the Brittannian Empire. He is probably much kinder than Lelouch and is probably a big fan of Zero.
He will become the next "Zero" and approach a group of rebels/ terrorists to create a "second order of Black Knights".
...
And that, will mark the beginning of a second series for Code Geass: The return of Zero.
This is not the case. It is confirmed that Lulu will still be the protagonist in ss2. Beside, such a "kinder Zero" is what they originally intended to make, but because of the night show, they changed him in to a "more evilish" Zero for the taste of us adult ppl :heh:
anti-random
2007-09-08, 07:05
Beside, such a "kinder Zero" is what they originally intended to make, but because of the night show, they changed him in to a "more evilish" Zero for the taste of us adult ppl :heh:
And rightly so. Because if they didn't the show would lose that special edge it has.
This is not the case. It is confirmed that Lulu will still be the protagonist in ss2. Beside, such a "kinder Zero" is what they originally intended to make, but because of the night show, they changed him in to a "more evilish" Zero for the taste of us adult ppl :heh:
He is already too kind for the position that he is in, I'd hate to see how much kinder they could make him.
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-09-08, 12:01
This is not the case. It is confirmed that Lulu will still be the protagonist in ss2. Beside, such a "kinder Zero" is what they originally intended to make, but because of the night show, they changed him in to a "more evilish" Zero for the taste of us adult ppl :heh:
My recollection was that Suzaku was the original main character... Granted, the prototype Suzaku was sane, not like what we ended up getting.:heh:
Darksage12
2007-09-09, 05:36
Beside, such a "kinder Zero" is what they originally intended to make, but because of the night show, they changed him in to a "more evilish" Zero for the taste of us adult ppl
And rightly so. Because if they didn't the show would lose that special edge it has.
Yeah, I agree...
My recollection was that Suzaku was the original main character... Granted, the prototype Suzaku was sane, not like what we ended up getting.:heh:
I would stop watching Code Geass altogether if they ever decided to make Suzaku the main character. He is one of the worst characters in the show because he is just so damn annoying.
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-09-09, 10:29
I would stop watching Code Geass altogether if they ever decided to make Suzaku the main character. He is one of the worst characters in the show because he is just so damn annoying.
As I said, the Suzaku you know has very little to do with the original Suzaku prototype...:heh:
The prototype Lelouch had white hair just like his father, by the way.
As I said, the Suzaku you know has very little to do with the original Suzaku prototype...:heh:
The prototype Lelouch had white hair just like his father, by the way.
Where can I see these prototypes :D
Darksage12
2007-09-09, 12:21
I would stop watching Code Geass altogether if they ever decided to make Suzaku the main character. He is one of the worst characters in the show because he is just so damn annoying.
I agree, but I wonder if Lelouch would have survived the first episode without Suzaku..
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7366/1189357081969yl5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Susaku x Kallen ofcourse its not gonna happen right? yeah, hope a lot of scan recently doesn't make you worried... more scan on image board
and yeah, nice chinese suit there CC
Well standing next to someone doesn't make them a couple....hopefully.
Did C.C get a power up in the atomic butt section? XD
How reliable is the mag's scan anyway? I m not surprised if Suzaku n Kallen hook up but who will be Lelouch's ace pilot then?
Juvyniled
2007-09-09, 15:02
Who needs an ace pilot when you having your own Flying Angel of Death?
He still got pwnt by Cornelia even with a superior mech.......
Gawain might have firepower but top pilots like Cornelia, Suzaku and Kallen would probably still beat it through h4x0r skillz and their more agile mechs.
Juvyniled
2007-09-09, 19:31
Superior only when it's advantages are fully used. Now if it doesn't take advantage of its build... the Gawain would obviously lose. It's not designed for hand-to-hand combat, ground, or even close range combat. The closest weapon is its finger wires and that looks like it takes a lot of setup time.
SoldierOfDarkness
2007-09-09, 19:49
Superior only when it's advantages are fully used. Now if it doesn't take advantage of its build... the Gawain would obviously lose. It's not designed for hand-to-hand combat, ground, or even close range combat. The closest weapon is its finger wires and that looks like it takes a lot of setup time.
In that case it's not designed for anything at all.....
Jokes aside, Gawain is a commander suit that's obviously meant for support, recon, and commanding purposes. Its weaponry systems are there to keep the enemy away and to provide it with some level of defenses.
It fits in roles where it stays in the back or when in support of another unit, take lancelot for example.
Susaku x Kallen ofcourse its not gonna happen right? yeah, hope a lot of scan recently doesn't make you worried... more scan on image board
and yeah, nice chinese suit there CC
This is Code Geass, anything can happen with these couples. Though I for one would be quite surprise. It would be like a complete blindside.
Marioshinobi
2007-09-10, 01:24
Actually something strange across my mind just recently....
Who's Suzu's mother? There's no information or any episodes or stories spent about her...It's sort of odd that we know a bit of Marianne and Kallen's mother, but very little of Suzu considering he is the antagonist of the story vsing Lulu.
Sorta makes the whole 'Genetic' thing strange..perhaps he's a coordinator that had his genes worked upon xD
fujimiya
2007-09-10, 03:00
I have a question about the Newtype mag scan picture with the four characters above. Can anyone read the tiny font by Suzaku with the word "Check!"??? I thought I'm reading something about a showing starting on October 7. Is it talking about a re-run or the sequel?
Jeffry2009
2007-09-10, 06:13
I have a question about the Newtype mag scan picture with the four characters above. Can anyone read the tiny font by Suzaku with the word "Check!"??? I thought I'm reading something about a showing starting on October 7. Is it talking about a re-run or the sequel?
i don't know. i don't think it's a aired date of CG S2. CG S2 will be aired in spring 2008.:confused:
SoldierOfDarkness
2007-09-10, 16:56
Actually something strange across my mind just recently....
Who's Suzu's mother? There's no information or any episodes or stories spent about her...It's sort of odd that we know a bit of Marianne and Kallen's mother, but very little of Suzu considering he is the antagonist of the story vsing Lulu.
Sorta makes the whole 'Genetic' thing strange..perhaps he's a coordinator that had his genes worked upon xD
We know practically nothing of Suzaku at all.
I mean I thought those mini episodes were suppose to allow us to see more into what had happened to Suzaku during the Britannia years prior to joining the military but we only get a glimpse.
Not to mention his combat capabilities though Lelouch doesn't seem too suprised by his abilities.
And then we get the story about how Suzaku's existence was kept secret from public. I don't see the need for the Prime Minister of a democractic country to keep the fact that he had a son a secret.
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-09-10, 17:00
We know practically nothing of Suzaku at all.
I mean I thought those mini episodes were suppose to allow us to see more into what had happened to Suzaku during the Britannia years prior to joining the military but we only get a glimpse.
Not to mention his combat capabilities though Lelouch doesn't seem too suprised by his abilities.
Lulouch was well aware of Suzaku's abilities, which means Suzaku's physical prowess was present even back in his childhood. Sunrise probably don't want to talk about Suzaku's past much, because they supposedly claim there was a good explanation for Suzaku's ability to walk on walls and dodge bullets. For all intent and purposes, Suzaku's past is as enigmatic as CC's.
Lulouch was well aware of Suzaku's abilities, which means Suzaku's physical prowess was present even back in his childhood. Sunrise probably don't want to talk about Suzaku's past much, because they supposedly claim there was a good explanation for Suzaku's ability to walk on walls and dodge bullets. For all intent and purposes, Suzaku's past is as enigmatic as CC's.
His mother was a spider.
They don't want to reveal anything so that they can do anything... which is a little meh.
His mother was a spider.
LOL, but in the manga the rebellion of Lelouch, Suzaku and Lulu talk about their childhood and how Sazaku always beat Lulu when it comes to sports and other physical activities, but Lulu always beat Sazaku at chess. And I remember Sazaku told Lulu somewhere in the anime "I was always the better athlete."
Suzaku had ninja training and you just have to accept it as it is. It's one of those oriental secret that you just dont do a show and tell episode, like loli mahou shoujo and secret behind gattai power up.
I get the feeling that they will go into Suzaku's abilities. They don't set up something like that in a show like this without going into it. It's not like a normal superpower show where it doesn't really matter where it comes from.
CG S2 will be aired in spring 2008.
Wait, really? Aww...
Wait, really? Aww...
It's not that bad of a wait, it could be worse.
Yeah, I'd just thought it was coming out in the fall. I didn't know that it's release date for spring had been confirmed.
anti-random
2007-09-17, 20:07
wait, if its the northern hemisphere's spring then it will be around march yes. Excellent
No air time has been confirmed at all. It's just most likely to air in spring.
Methuselah
2007-09-18, 20:28
Ga. I don't even want to think about it. It's SO long.... >.< Hope they'll release it in January.. Then again, I guess they would have announced it already if it's that soon.
Ga. I don't even want to think about it. It's SO long.... >.< Hope they'll release it in January.. Then again, I guess they would have announced it already if it's that soon.
could be worse, they could have aired the new gundam for an entire year instead of just half. then again, depending on whether CG comes back in the winter, maybe that's worse... :heh:
CrisisDarkerXIV
2007-10-10, 23:25
I see three possible endings for Code Geass:
Britannia is destroyed, Lelouch is a tragic hero, Suzaku and/or Nanaly dies.
Britannia is destroyed, Lelouch dies, Suzaku and/or Nanaly lives.
Britannia peacefully withdraws from Japan, everyone lives.
Eh, the last one "Everyone lives" is kinda weird. I don't think Lelouch and Suzaku are just gonna forget everything between them at the end of the 1st season.
O.o, do you have a grudge against the Almighty Britannia!?
Destinyblade
2007-10-12, 17:19
I don't think Lelouch and Suzaku are just gonna forget everything between them at the end of the 1st season.
Actually, I'd imply that more on to Suzaku than Lelouch.
Seeing as how Kira and Athrun did it in Gundam SEED, I don't see why it can't happen in Geass. Of course, certain things would have to happen for the two to move on and do something like team up or be friends again, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities. And before someone quotes me with a reply of Lelouch being nothing like Kira from SEED and that he's smart and is similar to Light from Death Note type of stuff, here's the bottom line: he still considers Suzaku a friend, and if certain events happen, the two can put aside what has happened in the past.
It all depends on what happens in the 2nd season.
HurricaneHige
2007-10-12, 17:27
hmm....i dont think Kira and Athrun situation applies here, i mean....Athrun lost a good friend, yes, but he also took revenge by nearly killing Kira (and regret doing). Lulu killed Suzaku's girlfriend, which is infinitely times worse. It would be like Kira killing Lacus, if u refer to older Gundam series, none of the girlfriend killing situation ever turn out good for either side.
Destinyblade
2007-10-12, 17:47
hmm....i dont think Kira and Athrun situation applies here, i mean....Athrun lost a good friend, yes, but he also took revenge by nearly killing Kira (and regret doing). Lulu killed Suzaku's girlfriend, which is infinitely times worse. It would be like Kira killing Lacus, if u refer to older Gundam series, none of the girlfriend killing situation ever turn out good for either side.
Well, first of all, this isn't a Gundam series, so the "girlfirend killing situation never turning out good" argument really isn't valid.
Suzaku does not need to do what Athrun did for the two to become friends again. I'm sure there's more than one way for that happen.
As for Lelouch killing Suzaku's girlfriend, that still does not completely eliminate the possibility of the two either teaming up or being good friends again. I'm not saying it's likely; I'm just pointing out that, given that there's another season of episodes remaining, you can't rule out that it may just happen.
cajunman380
2007-10-12, 18:31
SOrry but I feel the need to state an opinion here. Episode 22 and 23 while intense pretty much made me dislike Leouchs character. I wanna give my opinion on several points
Well, first of all, this isn't a Gundam series, so the "girlfirend killing situation never turning out good" argument really isn't valid.
Actually it is. It isnt a Gundam series but Sunriseis still behind it so their influence may show. Not only did Leouch kill Euphie while Suzaku saw. He also smeared her name to the public as a mass murdurer and even Lied to Suzakus face about it(Suzaku had to hea rthe truth from V.V). I dont think Suzaku will be willing to forgive Leouch for that. He doesnt have a reason to. The thing is Leouch did something really shitty and something big has to happen in order for forgiveness to occur or else it doesnt become remotely believable. Seriously woudl you forgive someone for murduring a loved one in front of you even if he was your best friend. I wouldnt under the circumstances.
Suzaku does not need to do what Athrun did for the two to become friends again. I'm sure there's more than one way for that happen.
Suzaku is also not in the same situation Athrun is in. Leouch commited outright mass murder and intended to blame it on someone else. And like i said before something major and i mean MAJOR has to happen for any sort of partnership to even occur.
As for Lelouch killing Suzaku's girlfriend, that still does not completely eliminate the possibility of the two either teaming up or being good friends again. I'm not saying it's likely; I'm just pointing out that, given that there's another season of episodes remaining, you can't rule out that it may just happen.
No but the director stated that episode 20? (osmeone correct me) would be the last time Suzaku and Zero worked together. Meaning as long as Leouch is Zero they wont ever be on the same side. Beside sthe best I can see it is then working together to achieve a common aim. But as friends. thats pretty much out of the park unless something major occurs on Leouches end. Yes Suzaku needs to change but I dont think he would work with Leouch ever after he has cahnged given what he did.
I welcome feedback and these ar emy opinions only.
Destinyblade
2007-10-12, 21:59
Actually it is. It isnt a Gundam series but Sunriseis still behind it so their influence may show.
That has nothing to do with my reply. :rolleyes:
The one who mentioned Gundam was saying "if you refer to older Gundam series..." Bottom line: this is not a Gundam show; the word "Gundam" is not in the title. True, this is a Sunrise series, but again, this is NOT Gundam, which is why that point cannot be used as an argument. And actually, it was never valid to begin with. Just because there's a certain pattern does not mean it will continue in future shows. It is ultimately up to the director (and the Series Composition Writer) who decides what happens.
I dont think Suzaku will be willing to forgive Leouch for that. He doesnt have a reason to.
Yes, but the same argument could have been said when Athrun saw his friend killed in Gundam SEED. Back then, was there a reason to believe that he would ever forgive Kira? No. But what happened? The two moved on from their past because there were bigger problems.
Does Suzaku have any reason to forgive Lelouch? No. But could it be possible that he will move on from his past? Very, especially if the situation heads to a direction where Suzaku must.
Seriously woudl you forgive someone for murduring a loved one in front of you even if he was your best friend. I wouldnt under the circumstances.
Reread my previous post, please. I've already replyed to this particular argument before.
And like i said before something major and i mean MAJOR has to happen for any sort of partnership to even occur.
Which is why I mentioned the whole "there's still a season (25 episodes) of Geass remaining" part. Geass, unlike other shows, moves at a pretty fast pace, and with that many episodes remaining, anything can happen.
No but the director stated that episode 20? (osmeone correct me) would be the last time Suzaku and Zero worked together.
Well, I can't argue with that if the director stated it himself, though this doesn't rule out the possibility that the two might still become friends once again (unless, of course, that was also ruled out by the director). But really, a confirmation from a staff member of the series is the only way to ultimately confirm something like that. The rest is just speculation.
We're still only halfway through the series; WAY too early to tell whether these two will remain enemies to the bitter end or if they will become friends. Goro Taniguchi did make the two mains of s-CRY-ed bitter enemies to the very end, so it's very possible that Lelouch and Suzaku might do the same. But like I said, it's still way too early to say which direction the two will be headed. This type of show usually changes the atmosphere and situations very quickly.
cajunman380
2007-10-12, 23:06
The one who mentioned Gundam was saying "if you refer to older Gundam series..." Bottom line: this is not a Gundam show; the word "Gundam" is not in the title. True, this is a Sunrise series, but again, this is NOT Gundam, which is why that point cannot be used as an argument. And actually, it was never valid to begin with. Just because there's a certain pattern does not mean it will continue in future shows. It is ultimately up to the director (and the Series Composition Writer) who decides what happens.
I will agree to this point. It is ultimately up to the writers to decide what to do. For all we know they may do something completely opposite to what we may believe. I will concede for now.
Yes, but the same argument could have been said when Athrun saw his friend killed in Gundam SEED. Back then, was there a reason to believe that he would ever forgive Kira? No. But what happened? The two moved on from their past because there were bigger problems.
actually.... not the same case at all. Athrun saw Kira kill Nicole as a reflex action to Tolle trying to kill him with a spear. Nicole was a soldier who died in combat. And guess what Athrun did after nicole died? He killed tolle. who was attacking him while kira saw. They keilled their respective loved ones. It was a case where they were even and they had to move on. In this case... well i already stated what leouch did to Euphie. Its wayyy different. If what you said was true Suzaku would have helped leouch get Nunnaly, but he didnt. What Leouch did was far, far worse than what athrun did. SUzaku would have to kill Nunally and all of Leouches friends before I would think there would be some reconcilliation. I just dont see it. Even if there are bigger problems I think SUzaku would just go on his own.
Does Suzaku have any reason to forgive Lelouch? No. But could it be possible that he will move on from his past? Very, especially if the situation heads to a direction where Suzaku must.
Euphie has nothing to do with his past. Even if he moves on it doens tmean he will forgive Leouch for what he did.
Reread my previous post, please. I've already replyed to this particular argument before.
This was my opinion and I have no desire to continue it thus. You have your viewpoint and I have mine
Which is why I mentioned the whole "there's still a season (25 episodes) of Geass remaining" part. Geass, unlike other shows, moves at a pretty fast pace, and with that many episodes remaining, anything can happen.
Except it took 25 episodes for leouch to finally handle cornelia. Yes its fast paced but it doesnt mean some major issues between the two will be resolved until the end if they ever do get resolved.
Well, I can't argue with that if the director stated it himself, though this doesn't rule out the possibility that the two might still become friends once again (unless, of course, that was also ruled out by the director). But really, a confirmation from a staff member of the series is the only way to ultimately confirm something like that. The rest is just speculation.
As i said unless theres some Deus EX going on, I dont see the possibility happening at this time. It was also stated that Suzaku would become a demon of vengence, his life would be a living hell becaus eof the Geass command, and that he would show no mercy to Leouch or Kallen. I know its speculation but again I dont see the possibility of reconciliation at this time.
We're still only halfway through the series; WAY too early to tell whether these two will remain enemies to the bitter end or if they will become friends. Goro Taniguchi did make the two mains of s-CRY-ed bitter enemies to the very end, so it's very possible that Lelouch and Suzaku might do the same. But like I said, it's still way too early to say which direction the two will be headed. This type of show usually changes the atmosphere and situations very quickly.
The two guys of scryed simply hated each other from the get go. They were never friends to begin with, they never liked each other but were willing to work together for a goal. The situation here reminds me of GUts and Griffith and we all know how that turned out. But yeah were only halfway but Im not expecting miracles. My opinion again
This is something I've been wondering about for a while and I haven't been able to find the answer here so maybe someone would be able to enlighten me. What exactly is Jeremiah's rank? I understand that he is a Margrave, but what is his actual rank (general, colonel, etc)? Since he took over control of Area 11 after the death of Clovis, I'm assuming that he's a general of some sorts.
I agree, but I wonder if Lelouch would have survived the first episode without Suzaku..
Yes. It was Suzaku who attacked Lelouch out of the blue and made quite a few loud noises which drew in the commander dude who probably heard it through Suzaku's radio....
lightbringer
2007-10-22, 19:50
Yes. It was Suzaku who attacked Lelouch out of the blue and made quite a few loud noises which drew in the commander dude who probably heard it through Suzaku's radio....
Err, didn't the commander appear because Suzaku reported having found the terrorists' truck?
SoldierOfDarkness
2007-10-22, 19:56
Err, didn't the commander appear because Suzaku reported having found the terrorists' truck?
Not to mention right after Suzaku reported it(It was morse I believe, not radio, he was tapping his chest and then we see the commander move out) he saw Lelouch(Who was still in the dark) in a way "reach" for the "bomb" so he acted to stop him.
Darksage12
2007-10-23, 14:38
Not to mention right after Suzaku reported it(It was morse I believe, not radio, he was tapping his chest and then we see the commander move out) he saw Lelouch(Who was still in the dark) in a way "reach" for the "bomb" so he acted to stop him.
Yup, he failed to follow orders. ^__^ Which almost got him killed...-_-""
Oh well, there's something you guys should realize about the Athrun-Kira-Lulu-Suzaku thing.
Kira finds a way to destroy the mobile armours without killing the pilots; only shooting of the heads [camera's], arms and legs [just like suzaku does btw].
Lelouch however, doesn't mind killing whoever is in his way; including his "first love" Euphemia. [I wonder if he would kill Karen though.... he can't kill C.C. if she betrays him]
I definitely think Suzaku is not going to forgive Lelouch for killing Euphemia and then blaming her for the massacre.
And Lelouch doesn't seem like the guy to forgive Suzaku either, 'cause he ain't gonna save his Sister-complez aka Nunnaly.
But dispite that, I still see them becoming friends for some reason. But I can't figure out if that actually is what I want to happen...
ZombieSheep
2007-10-23, 23:06
I really doubt they'll become friends again in any real sense. To overcoming what happened between them requires understanding, however, Lelouche isn't the kind to explain himself and Suzaku isn't the kind to listen.
Seriously, when lulu was confront with his action of killing yuffie, the only thing he said was don't you ever done something you really regret but can't change, that wasn't even an excuse or explanation, it's practically an admission of guilt. (granted there wasn't anything convincing he could say, but he didn't even try)
Suzaku on the other hand was hardly ever persuade off his path once he made up his mind, I really doubt he'll change his mind about vengeance now that he is piss off mad.
I think as close of a friendship they going to get now is "I liked you but you still have to die".
Darksage12
2007-10-24, 05:08
I just skimmed through a list with anime series that will be aired in Fall 2007.
Guess what? Code Geass is NOT on the list..... -_-""
I guess that means we will have to wait till spring.
lightbringer
2007-10-24, 21:42
Well, the fall season started like a month ago. Most of the fall shows are already on their 3rd or 4th episode. Once a scheduled time is announced, it will likely be listed on Moonphase (http://www.moonphase.cc/Html/anime.html) soon enough (not to mention the CG homepage), but you can also bet that it will be posted in this forum within hours ;). I can't imagine them postponing it any longer than until spring though. First there's the trailer that will be on a magazine dvd in late December, plus they can only go so far with merchandise and other products :D
Deathwing
2007-10-24, 23:04
i think there trying to milk all they can out of a certain characters franchises before they kill em off next season (im guessing kallen ... one of the only side characters left that matter)
i think there trying to milk all they can out of a certain characters franchises before they kill em off next season (im guessing kallen ... one of the only side characters left that matter)
I was thinking more like Suzaku... lol.
lightbringer
2007-10-25, 14:26
You guys are so evil... why not just get rid of the really superfluous characters, like Nina or Rivalz? Nina's half gone already and Rivalz was air to begin with, but we need Suzaku around to pester Zero (my guess is the whole current situation is a setup by V.V. to get Suzaku to bind a Geass contract) and we still haven't seen the kiss scene with Kallen :D
Torimaru
2007-10-26, 03:49
Well no one gives a hoot about what happens to Nina or Rivalz, not me at least :p. And please no kiss scene or any romantic interactions for the matter of fact between Kallen and Suzaku, can't stand the latter :frustrated:
Pepperidge
2007-10-28, 14:11
According to the MBS website, Code Geass began airing at 5:30pm (right before Gundam 00) yesterday. Gee, I wonder what timeslot season 2 is going to have...
Also, I wonder if they'll be editing season one. Or if it will be airing in HD? Has anyone found any information about this?
lightbringer
2007-10-28, 18:08
Dunno about that, but the timeslot is good news, although I suppose it's to be expected after the warm reception CG has gotten. Well, anything beats four AM :D I hope this carries over to the second series, meaning it too will get a better time slot.
On the other hand, I wonder if this means that the second season is delayed until Summer/Fall. MBS can't very well show both series in parallel in Spring, now can it.
2H-Dragon
2007-10-28, 18:15
But dispite that, I still see them becoming friends for some reason. But I can't figure out if that actually is what I want to happen...
Yup, but it will be the moment they will both die killing each other or the other big bad guy. And in their dream world they become friends a l a frey.
In the end they will both die. Mark my words they will both die. Both have done enough shit to deserve death. Suzaku does have some chance of surviving, but that would be less dramatic. Zero is going to die anyhow might as well make Suzaku die and let Suzaku be reunited with his love.
lightbringer
2007-10-28, 20:33
Lelouch's death is anything but decided. Although it would be one way to kill off the merchandising. But we're getting ahead of ourselves anyway - first, he's got a world to conquer.
Nevertheless, given that Suzaku is receptive to Geass, and might be getting a Geass power soon (which means going from hax to überhax), he might end up going to the World of C and hence not being able to reunite with Euphie (if normal people go somewhere else when they die - who knows :3 ).
Lelouch's death is anything but decided. Although it would be one way to kill off the merchandising. But we're getting ahead of ourselves anyway - first, he's got a world to conquer.
Nevertheless, given that Suzaku is receptive to Geass, and might be getting a Geass power soon (which means going from hax to überhax), he might end up going to the World of C and hence not being able to reunite with Euphie (if normal people go somewhere else when they die - who knows :3 ).
One of the reasons for the constant belief that he will die, is because his goals never focus on him but on others. Revenge and Nunally. Revenge, on its own, usually results in death.
One of the reasons for the constant belief that he will die, is because his goals never focus on him but on others. Revenge and Nunally. Revenge, on its own, usually results in death.
well, he's still kinda working on the revenge bit (can't really take revenge on someone if you don't know who that person is), so there's still quite a bit of hope for him.
Darksage12
2007-10-30, 13:02
Nevertheless, given that Suzaku is receptive to Geass, and might be getting a Geass power soon (which means going from hax to überhax),
Suzaku already is overpowered. He already has his own "speed" [wtf?? just too fast, dodging machine-gun-bullets?] and he probably gets Geass soon enough because of V.V.. That means he'll be unstoppable......... That is, if he gets a Geass like Lelouch. If he gets a Geass like Mao, he'll be a big loser, really. Now that is just plain sad.
Something completely different. I remember someone saying that Lelouch has an "interesting" role in CG season 2. Then would't CG season 2 be the anime version of Suzaku of the Counter Attack? [:frustrated::upset::twitch::uhoh: if it is, I am not going to watch it.]
Blue_Mercy
2007-10-31, 23:05
Suzaku already is overpowered. He already has his own "speed" [wtf?? just too fast, dodging machine-gun-bullets?] and he probably gets Geass soon enough because of V.V.. That means he'll be unstoppable......... That is, if he gets a Geass like Lelouch. If he gets a Geass like Mao, he'll be a big loser, really. Now that is just plain sad.
I think V.V. has no interest in giving Suzaku Geass or he would have done it the first time they met. There was no guarantee they would meet again.
I haven't gone through everyone's comments after the last episode ended, but did anyone have any ideas on what C.C. would do to survive being at the bottom of the Pacific?
I think V.V. has no interest in giving Suzaku Geass or he would have done it the first time they met. There was no guarantee they would meet again.
I haven't gone through everyone's comments after the last episode ended, but did anyone have any ideas on what C.C. would do to survive being at the bottom of the Pacific?
I asked that when the episode aired. No one has yet to answer... How does one escape megatons of pressure?
I think V.V. has no interest in giving Suzaku Geass or he would have done it the first time they met. There was no guarantee they would meet again.
I haven't gone through everyone's comments after the last episode ended, but did anyone have any ideas on what C.C. would do to survive being at the bottom of the Pacific?
well, V.V. doesn't seem to have a big problem getting places, whether they be high security floating fortresses, the middle of an enemy base in a warzone, or a random unknown ruin on a remote island while carrying a girl in a wheelchair on his back. point is, V.V.'s in no real rush to see Suzaku and there's dozens of reasonable explanations for why V.V. would hold out on giving Suzaku a geass in 23 (this was a test, he was just using the kid for distraction this time around, he didn't see it as needed/was assured of his own plan, thought it would be a bad time to mention it given the fact such a power was just used to cause suzaku's love to go crazy and die, Suzaku already has a geass without knowing it, Suzaku was given a geass and it's just one of the many peices of the interaction we didn't see, etc, etc). Assuming neither party dies, it doesn't seem unlikely that V.V. can see Suzaku whenever he damn well likes.
as for C.C.? well, assuming that Jeremiah's mech (Siegfried?)/Jeremiah himself doesn't have a built in transmitter that will allow Britannian forces to locate him and C.C., The Black Knights still have a sub that wasn't involved in combat. I'm sure they could be contacted and pick C.C. up. other extraction methods include V.V. getting her out, or the story just ignoring the whole pressure and asphyxiation thing and just having C.C. escape on her own. this is all of course assuming they haven't fallen far enough to crush both the mechs (I dunno, since it's an area full of islands, possible I suppose)
well, V.V. doesn't seem to have a big problem getting places, whether they be high security floating fortresses, the middle of an enemy base in a warzone, or a random unknown ruin on a remote island while carrying a girl in a wheelchair on his back. point is, V.V.'s in no real rush to see Suzaku and there's dozens of reasonable explanations for why V.V. would hold out on giving Suzaku a geass in 23 (this was a test, he was just using the kid for distraction this time around, he didn't see it as needed/was assured of his own plan, thought it would be a bad time to mention it given the fact such a power was just used to cause suzaku's love to go crazy and die, Suzaku already has a geass without knowing it, Suzaku was given a geass and it's just one of the many peices of the interaction we didn't see, etc, etc). Assuming neither party dies, it doesn't seem unlikely that V.V. can see Suzaku whenever he damn well likes.
as for C.C.? well, assuming that Jeremiah's mech (Siegfried?)/Jeremiah himself doesn't have a built in transmitter that will allow Britannian forces to locate him and C.C., The Black Knights still have a sub that wasn't involved in combat. I'm sure they could be contacted and pick C.C. up. other extraction methods include V.V. getting her out, or the story just ignoring the whole pressure and asphyxiation thing and just having C.C. escape on her own. this is all of course assuming they haven't fallen far enough to crush both the mechs (I dunno, since it's an area full of islands, possible I suppose)
Mech's like that wouldn't need much to crush them, they are not designed for underwater. I think you are probably right, though, that they will probably just omit pressure and the horrendous effects that tends to have on bodies, and simply have her escape somehow.
If she died... I'd be completely blindsided by the plot. Not sure if that would be good or bad.
Leon_Lelouch
2007-11-01, 01:20
It'll be a bit boring if Lulu and Suzaku become friends.....
It'll be just like Gundam Seed......
As for C.C died?? No.... Please dont make her to be dead.....
lightbringer
2007-11-01, 12:50
She'll regenerate from the saliva she left behind when kissing Lelouch.
Seriously, no clue - but she's immortal, so it will work out somehow.
Oh, and the chance that Suzaku reconciles with Lulu is exactly zero. Let's move on from that theory :)
Darksage12
2007-11-01, 14:08
She'll regenerate from the saliva she left behind when kissing Lelouch.
Seriously, no clue - but she's immortal, so it will work out somehow.
Oh, and the chance that Suzaku reconciles with Lulu is exactly zero. Let's move on from that theory :)
When I first read that I thought you said the chance was Zero[aka Lelouch], not zero, zo I was kinda confused ;):p
SoldierOfDarkness
2007-11-01, 20:08
She'll regenerate from the saliva she left behind when kissing Lelouch.
Seriously, no clue - but she's immortal, so it will work out somehow.
Oh, and the chance that Suzaku reconciles with Lulu is exactly zero. Let's move on from that theory :)
Oh I'm sure they have some reset button somewhere.
Oh I'm sure they have some reset button somewhere.
If they're going to remove Suzaku's biggest character development of the first half of the show and only believable motivation by having him suddenly decide not to kill Lelouch after hearing "oh, hey, that was all an accident", they may as well just kill him.
Darksage12
2007-11-02, 04:58
If they're going to remove Suzaku's biggest character development of the first half of the show and only believable motivation by having him suddenly decide not to kill Lelouch after hearing "oh, hey, that was all an accident".
That would be hilarious.:D
Lelouch would probably be like: *thinks*"he is an idiot"*thinks*
And we all know he is right, except for the Suzaku-fans.
Whoa, 170 pages. I'm not even going to try to read them all. My speculations for season 2, which I may or may not watch:
1. Suzaku gets a Geass, VV is his "CC" so to speak. Second season is "Suzaku of the Rebellion"
2. Lelouch dies, but not right away
3. Proceed as usual.
Whoa, 170 pages. I'm not even going to try to read them all. My speculations for season 2, which I may or may not watch:
1. Suzaku gets a Geass, VV is his "CC" so to speak. Second season is "Suzaku of the Rebellion"
2. Lelouch dies, but not right away
3. Proceed as usual.
-well, VV was a geass giver in the DS game, so maybe he'll end up having that power in the anime.
-well, maybe at the end of the series, but I don't see the protagonist of the first half suddenly being kicked out partway through the second half.
-maybe we should just have Suzaku turn out to be an evil clone, and then have an eyepatched R!Suzaku (to....umm, hide his geass?) show up to join the rebellion instead. :rolleyes:
Kittie Rose
2007-11-11, 15:46
I dunno, it would be kind of nice if characters actually heard each other out once in a while. If he knew everything as it happened from Lulu's point of view, then I can't imagine him being like that.
Any news on the next episode/series?
I dunno, it would be kind of nice if characters actually heard each other out once in a while. If he knew everything as it happened from Lulu's point of view, then I can't imagine him being like that.
to give you an idea of how the staff thinks about such matters...
The director (Taniguchi) explains why Zero acted the way he did in front of Kallen and Suzaku in the booklet for DVD vol 9, and also why Lelouch continually pretends he's the bad guy: a good deed done for someone might be an evil act to someone else -- "If there are people who will see me as evil no matter what, I might as well be the biggest evil in the world!" (but only on the surface) Taniguchi explains that it is far more manlier to go "Yeah, I'm evil -- so what?" when you're misunderstood than to justify your every action (Suzaku) and go "No, wait, you misunderstand. You see, I'm actually the good guy here (etc)"
Any news on the next episode/series?
nope. But come back in December, there'll be a trailer then.
How do you know there'll be a trailer in December?
Kittie Rose
2007-11-12, 09:22
The director (Taniguchi) explains why Zero acted the way he did in front of Kallen and Suzaku in the booklet for DVD vol 9, and also why Lelouch continually pretends he's the bad guy: a good deed done for someone might be an evil act to someone else -- "If there are people who will see me as evil no matter what, I might as well be the biggest evil in the world!" (but only on the surface) Taniguchi explains that it is far more manlier to go "Yeah, I'm evil -- so what?" when you're misunderstood than to justify your every action (Suzaku) and go "No, wait, you misunderstand. You see, I'm actually the good guy here (etc)"
That's sucky reasoning though. I don't think Suzaku would think Zero is evil "No Matter What". I don't care what's manlier - I care about what's more reasonable for Zero to do. I'm getting tired of the anime cliche of two childhood friends on opposing sides who get into these bit fights, and then it ends up there's a huge misunderstanding, and they don't bother even mentioning it. It just makes me want to tear my hair out! Lelouch could easily explained what happened with Euphie, it would at least have been worth a shot. After all, Suzaku doesn't want to believe Lelouch is evil - just as he didn't with Euphie. It would be easier for him if they were BOTH being controlled by the power, which is closest to the truth.
It's just so frustrating that when Suzaku asked him why he didn't just accept Euphie's offer, he didn't say "I did!". In fact, he should have pinned the blame on a shadow character altogether for Euphie's actions, it would have been the best compromise. He didn't want people to blame Euphie - he should have made people believe that someone(the emporer, obviously) was twisting the Britannians into acting the way they did - that way he's more likely to get the support of fellow Britannians.
I'm just frustrated in general with how everything has been handled since Episode 23. I just wish that the whole Euphie Massacre didn't happen. It was a bit "too" twisted and I'm not sure it was good for the story, it was too sudden a shift in atmosphere. I would have enjoyed seeing the Black Knights protecting the state of Nippon against the corrupt forces in the Empire. They could have found a better way to show how dangerous his power could be. They really went over the top.
-KarumA-
2007-11-12, 09:25
How do you know there'll be a trailer in December?
there are rumors that it is to start airing during the spring season, most trailers for the spring seires are released in December thus if Geass S2 was to air during Spring it would have a trailr released around December :)
Kittie Rose
2007-11-12, 09:57
Any new clues as to what C.C.'s name is?
The only thing I can think is that she's some sort of Goddess, maybe Eris/Discordia. I can't think of any name in particular that would be "shocking" apart from that and even that's a stretch. I know she claims to be a "Witch", but I'm kinda thinking in POTC there was a character like that too.
Any new clues as to what C.C.'s name is?
The only thing I can think is that she's some sort of Goddess, maybe Eris/Discordia. I can't think of any name in particular that would be "shocking" apart from that and even that's a stretch. I know she claims to be a "Witch", but I'm kinda thinking in POTC there was a character like that too.
I don't think she has diety status, the only power she really has is immortality and the ability to give others power. She has no real omnipotence and is dependant on the user of her powers.
I don't think she has diety status, the only power she really has is immortality and the ability to give others power. She has no real omnipotence and is dependant on the user of her powers.
well, and that phone in her head to V.V. and Marianne...and that geass-like power to make people who touch her see images from their memory, or hers (and those spooky skulls/world of C thing...though maybe that is from her memories. 0_o)
Kittie Rose
2007-11-13, 15:18
I don't think she has diety status, the only power she really has is immortality and the ability to give others power. She has no real omnipotence and is dependant on the user of her powers.
Gods don't have to be omnipotent. C.C. has also proven herself to be enhanced physically, not just with the healing factor but pulls off feats that a relatively untrained girl like her shouldn't be able to.
If she was a God, it'd make sense to be Eris. In Greek Mythology; she manipulated people by giving them promise of a Golden Apple. She didn't use any mad pow0r as such either but was still a god.
The more modern neo-pagan/discordian view of Eris is that she was misunderstood - like the person on online forums who holds alternative views or has a weird way of viewing things, seems to be causing trouble but it's really just bringing out the nastiness in people around them.
Looking at the themes of Code Geass if she was to be a mythological figure reincarnated as a human "witch" it would make the most sense. Though by the number of mouth movements she makes it would be "Discordia", which would add a lot of meaning to Lelouch saying it's a very human name; since humans are at heart, discorded.
To me having some kind of name that anyone would recognise, be shocked over or find significant suggests a mythological figure to me.
Though then again, I've been reading too much Neil Gaiman lately.
To Code Geass' writers, please make Lelouch and Suzaku friends again, the ending in S1 was just too much for me. Let them join forces and kick Britannia's butt, and we'll all be happy :)
To Code Geass' writers, please make Lelouch and Suzaku friends again, the ending in S1 was just too much for me. Let them join forces and kick Britannia's butt, and we'll all be happy :)
Sunrise gave us a hint of that ending, and then crushed all traces of it.
Darksage12
2007-11-14, 11:30
Well, IF C.C. is a Goddess, which I doubt, there is a shit load of those. Remember the scene with the huge army of kids with the Geass-mark on their foreheads? It is in the opening sequence.
Which makes me wonder, why did Lelouch only run into C.C. and V.V. [net yet V.V., but almost] while there is an army of them out there who all can give Geasses away and who are all IMMORTAL. I wonder.
If that army really is still alive, then why did we only see Lelouch and Mao as Geass-users? [maybe Suzaku in the future season]. There should have been more.
Anyway, it would be great if Lelouch could replace his order of Black Knights, for his "Organization Geass". [he probably will, trust me :heh:]
Sunrise gave us a hint of that ending, and then crushed all traces of it.
Yeah, unfortunately. But I'm still hoping for it, I'm being optimistic :D
Yeah, unfortunately. But I'm still hoping for it, I'm being optimistic :D
well, it's probably safer to not be too optimistic till the very end.
Taniguchi anime just love to crush hope and happiness to a bloody pulp for 20+ episodes (making it 40+ this time around) only to have the main characters finally make it out of their pit of suffering by the finale. :heh:
well, it's probably safer to not be too optimistic till the very end.
Taniguchi anime just love to crush hope and happiness to a bloody pulp for 20+ episodes (making it 40+ this time around) only to have the main characters finally make it out of their pit of suffering by the finale. :heh:
Hmm, interesting, the entire reason I actually started watching Code Geass was because he's the director. s-CRY-ed is one of my old favorites.
well, it's probably safer to not be too optimistic till the very end.
Taniguchi anime just love to crush hope and happiness to a bloody pulp for 20+ episodes (making it 40+ this time around) only to have the main characters finally make it out of their pit of suffering by the finale. :heh:
For now, I'll just hope that they don't start actually from where S1 left, because one of the three (Lelouch, Suzaku, Karen) will probably die. Man, that would suck lol :D
For now, I'll just hope that they don't start actually from where S1 left, because one of the three (Lelouch, Suzaku, Karen) will probably die. Man, that would suck lol :D
I can pretty much guarantee that none of the three will die at this point - unless the creators decide to take a huge gamble writing-wise, everything points squarely at the climax being a Lelouch-Suzaku showdown or their joining forces in the final battle
(Lelouch as C.C.'s champion and Suzaku as V.V.'s champion). This is a terrible time to finish off Kallen's character, so she's also safe for the time being.
I can pretty much guarantee that none of the three will die at this point - unless the creators decide to take a huge gamble writing-wise, everything points squarely at the climax being a Lelouch-Suzaku showdown or their joining forces in the final battle
(Lelouch as C.C.'s champion and Suzaku as V.V.'s champion). This is a terrible time to finish off Kallen's character, so she's also safe for the time being.
You'll never know what's inside these writers' minds :P
You'll never know what's inside these writers' minds :P
"I'll show you! Let's make a show with everything! Lesbians, giant robots, pink princesses, pizza, mysterious girls -- EVERYTHING!"
Darksage12
2007-11-15, 11:39
"I'll show you! Let's make a show with everything! Lesbians, giant robots, pink princesses, pizza, mysterious girls -- EVERYTHING!"
Hell yeah!! Add alchemy and vampires ^__^
XD: Full Metal Geass: Lelouch of the Alchemists
"I'll show you! Let's make a show with everything! Lesbians, giant robots, pink princesses, pizza, mysterious girls -- EVERYTHING!"
haha, probably not Pizza Hut this time. Domino's Pizza anyone? :D
Hell yeah!! Add alchemy and vampires ^__^
XD: Full Metal Geass: Lelouch of the Alchemists
"The Power of Geass has something to do with the very existence of humankind and can be used to destroy or transform just about anything."
You may not be that far off.....
For now, I'll just hope that they don't start actually from where S1 left, because one of the three (Lelouch, Suzaku, Karen) will probably die. Man, that would suck lol :D
I want them to kill Lelouch. I really, really want them to kill Lelouch, and kill Suzaku too. Come to think of it, I'd be perfectly fine if they never made a season 2 and let it all end here.
I want them to kill Lelouch. I really, really want them to kill Lelouch, and kill Suzaku too. Come to think of it, I'd be perfectly fine if they never made a season 2 and let it all end here.
well, that's not going to happen now.
if that had been the case, Euphie probably would have survived and Lelouch would have had a moment of psuedo-crazy happy realization for the last 3 episodes, a la PlanetES.
Jeffry2009
2007-11-16, 10:57
guys, let's just wait till 2008 to see what happens.
remember the show will continue as the trademark signature that i just made last time.
Meatrose
2007-11-16, 11:13
Nah, I would like to see season 2 end with Lelouch sitting on a big throne in some dark throneroom with Karen and C.C. by his side, sipping red wine from a goblet made from Suzaku's skull... ("All Hail Britannia!!!" is being played). The camera then zooms out, revealing the dead bodies of the Britannian nobility spread like lifeless puppets on the cold stone floor, and the picture fades to black as "All Hail Britannia!!!" comes to an end while Lelouch's evil laugh echoes throughout the throneroom. Now THAT would be a slap in the face. ^^
Or... they could pull a Nanoha and let all the sworn enemies become friends in the end. *barf*
Nah, I would like to see season 2 end with Lelouch sitting on a big throne in some dark throneroom with Karen and C.C. by his side, sipping red wine from a goblet made from Suzaku's skull... ("All Hail Britannia!!!" is being played). The camera then zooms out, revealing the dead bodies of the Britannian nobility spread like lifeless puppets on the cold stone floor, and the picture fades to black as "All Hail Britannia!!!" comes to an end while Lelouch's evil laugh echoes throughout the throneroom. Now THAT would be a slap in the face. ^^
I like that, just add in Millay, Kaguya, and Shirley next to Lelouch and it's perfect. :D
Darksage12
2007-11-16, 12:03
Nah, I would like to see season 2 end with Lelouch sitting on a big throne in some dark throneroom with Karen and C.C. by his side, sipping red wine from a goblet made from Suzaku's skull... ("All Hail Britannia!!!" is being played). The camera then zooms out, revealing the dead bodies of the Britannian nobility spread like lifeless puppets on the cold stone floor, and the picture fades to black as "All Hail Britannia!!!" comes to an end while Lelouch's evil laugh echoes throughout the throneroom. Now THAT would be a slap in the face. ^^I like that, just add in Millay, Kaguya, and Shirley next to Lelouch and it's perfect. :D
Then it would turn into an harem-anime..... Oh Heck, why not go all the way ^__^ Fan service, fan service.
Then it would turn into an harem-anime.....
You mean it isn't!? :twitch:
You mean it isn't!? :twitch:
Well, Lelouch did end up losing his entire harem by 25. ;_;
then again that's a perfectly good excuse to spend the next 25 episodes getting it back. p:
Well, Lelouch did end up losing his entire harem by 25. ;_;
then again that's a perfectly good excuse to spend the next 25 episodes getting it back. p:
Or he could create an entirely new one! :heh:
Or he could create an entirely new one! :heh:
considering how much of the cast was in his harem last season (alright...actually how many people weren't?), Short of geassing all his enemies into loving him or making everyone think he's now a girl, I think they'd basically need to replace half the characters to achieve such a feat. :heh:
and yet looking over other series Taniguchi has been involved in, I somehow doubt we'll get more than 3-5 new ones.
I like that, just add in Millay, Kaguya, and Shirley next to Lelouch and it's perfect. :D
LOL, extreme fan service to me, I feel sorry for Lelouch for being lost with the choice :p
LOL, extreme fan service to me, I feel sorry for Lelouch for being lost with the choice :p
Why choose when he can just have all of them?
Blue_Mercy
2007-11-16, 23:31
Let's assume for argument's sake that Nunnally is taken back to the homeland by V.V. and Lelouch must renew his rebellion to get her back.
What are some things he would have to do to reorganize the Black Knights failing defenses?
I'm not sure it's as hopeless as they made it seem at the end of the series. Lots of things could change it quickly, the Chinese or European Union, Nina's bomb, Lelouch's strategies.
Why choose when he can just have all of them?
I don't think the girls will be that easy going on him :D
lazyasian224
2007-11-17, 23:37
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-11-17/gundam-00's-second-season-to-start-in-october-of-2008
"The two companies had broadcasted Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, another military robot series, in a similar half-year run. Although Sunrise had announced there would be a sequel for Code Geass, the project's official blog had stated in March and reiterated in July that the staffers do not know when this sequel will be released and whether the sequel will have a 'TV broadcast, OVA, or theatrical release.'"
damn it. it better be soon and it better be TV
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-11-17/gundam-00's-second-season-to-start-in-october-of-2008
"The two companies had broadcasted Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, another military robot series, in a similar half-year run. Although Sunrise had announced there would be a sequel for Code Geass, the project's official blog had stated in March and reiterated in July that the staffers do not know when this sequel will be released and whether the sequel will have a 'TV broadcast, OVA, or theatrical release.'"
damn it. it better be soon and it better be TV
they were just trying to build hype. stupid announcement in January or later. (well, maybe December if we're lucky) -_-
-look, it was planned as 52 episode series, countless interviews with the production staff have stated so.
-Interviews with the staff and these 'official announcements' have also shown us that sunrise has given the green light for a second geass 'project'.
-We're told that there's going to be an announcement related to Geass' future and a trailer of some sort on the 2 DVD magazines released in the next few months.
-We now have an official announcement Gundam 00 is taking a 6 month break around April.
-And what's more, Geass' first season is airing right now on MBS, at 5:30...right before Gundam 00.
If Sunrise isn't aiming to have Geass take the 6 pm timeslot on MBS from April to October this time around, I'd be amazed. Honestly, short of them being refused a timeslot or someone big on the production staff suddenly dying, I can't see Geass not making its return within the next half year.
-KarumA-
2007-11-18, 08:14
do you thinkt hat that new character from the DS games that also has geass wil make a show up in the S2 series? =3
Darksage12
2007-11-18, 14:49
do you thinkt hat that new character from the DS games that also has geass wil make a show up in the S2 series? =3
I hope he will, with more Geass-users.
Again: All hail the Order of Black Geass !!! ^__^
do you thinkt hat that new character from the DS games that also has geass wil make a show up in the S2 series? =3
I'd say its about as likely as Nemo from NoN showing up, or Suzaku deciding to ditch the Lancelot and just start fighting the enemies of Britannia in that Lancelot mascot costume from episode 21. ;_;
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-11-17/gundam-00's-second-season-to-start-in-october-of-2008
"The two companies had broadcasted Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion, another military robot series, in a similar half-year run. Although Sunrise had announced there would be a sequel for Code Geass, the project's official blog had stated in March and reiterated in July that the staffers do not know when this sequel will be released and whether the sequel will have a 'TV broadcast, OVA, or theatrical release.'"
damn it. it better be soon and it better be TV
I have a hunch that it'll be an OVA. It'll give them time to stretch it as they like :)
Leon_Lelouch
2007-11-19, 08:46
Has nayone thought that the one who shot was V.V. or the emperor himself??
BTW, anyone know when is Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter in Japan?
Has nayone thought that the one who shot was V.V. or the emperor himself??
BTW, anyone know when is Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter in Japan?
I somewhat doubt it, seeing as how neither was even shown in that scene.
lazyasian224
2007-11-19, 17:30
Has nayone thought that the one who shot was V.V. or the emperor himself??
BTW, anyone know when is Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter in Japan?
um the dates of spring, summer, fall, and winter are pretty much the same for the entire world...
OMG_Zerg_Rush
2007-11-19, 20:24
um the dates of spring, summer, fall, and winter are pretty much the same for the entire world...
No thier not, eg winter in US is in december while in OZ it in june
lazyasian224
2007-11-19, 22:32
No thier not, eg winter in US is in december while in OZ it in june
are u talking like technically the winter season of the year which is in december,jan, feb, march or like snow cold-time winter which depends on where u live?
OMG_Zerg_Rush
2007-11-20, 16:14
are u talking like technically the winter season of the year which is in december,jan, feb, march or like snow cold-time winter which depends on where u live?
i was talking about the season
Leon_Lelouch
2007-11-21, 06:46
Well..... Since I live in a 2 season country, I dont know when is Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter in Japan....
So.... Someone please tell me....
mist2123
2007-11-21, 07:03
Well..... Since I live in a 2 season country, I dont know when is Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter in Japan....
So.... Someone please tell me....
its winter LOL now
-KarumA-
2007-11-22, 01:58
Well..... Since I live in a 2 season country, I dont know when is Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter in Japan....
So.... Someone please tell me....
ooh dear so that is why you ask.. /sigh
well, somewhat good news everybody.
according to Celiss Galvea over at Gamefaqs, 2ch spoiler guy Pubes/y1ANO80z6E made an appearance on the site over the weekend and confirmed that Geass will indeed be taking Gundam 00's sat 6pm time slot in April.
If anyone was looking for confirmation, this is basically as close as we're going to get until an actual official announcement.
well, somewhat good news everybody.
according to Celiss Galvea over at Gamefaqs, 2ch spoiler guy Pubes/y1ANO80z6E made an appearance on the site over the weekend and confirmed that Geass will indeed be taking Gundam 00's sat 6pm time slot in April.
If anyone was looking for confirmation, this is basically as close as we're going to get until an actual official announcement.
Woo! (for shortness)
other things y1ANO80z6E/Fake Yoshino (apparently used a name) revealed:
-The subtitle hasn't been decided yet, but it'll be mostly similar to the 1st season's.
-Information regarding the next season will be revealed bit-by-bit starting from next month.
-Season 2 will start with scenes that look like casual everyday life, which is why I said it will start in a way that will make viewers go "???". A lot of new things will come into play from there.
-"anime critic":
Regarding the future of the Black Knights
I can think of three possible choices.
The first would be Zero returning and reforming the organization after persuading all of his Knights.
The second: Zero does not return. Ougi and Toudou restructures the organization.
Diethard leaves at this point.
Third possible outcome: The organization collapses. After episode 25, the Black Knights retreat (but are not destroyed, because Taniguchi himself said there will be few deaths in the future)
and the organization falls to pieces.
These three outcomes are very possible.
However, neither of them are likely.
The first pattern is difficult to accept. Ougi may believe in him, but Tamaki and the rest of the Black Knights have little faith in Zero.
No matter how skillful Zero is at arguing his case, the Knights will not be easily persuaded, and it will not be easy to get them back together again.
Toudou, especially, will be difficult to convince. He abandoned a battle that could have been won, resulting in a lot of casualties. The price of his actions is no small matter.
Pattern 2 is not impossible.
Zero left, so they'll be battling on without him (like Guerrillas)
However, without Zero there are powerless. The Knights know the painful truth of this, and therefore this is not likely to happen.
Everyone knows that the existence of Zero led to the creation of the Black Knights. This outcome is highly unlikely.
Pattern 3 is likeliest to happen.
The Knights retreat and lose the war, and the absence of Zero leads to the disintegration of the organization.
This is obviously the most likely choice.
However, it might be interesting to see Lulu kill off Zero, and continue to lead the Black Knights and the Elevens after revealing his true identity (status and everything)
Fake Yoshino:
None of the developments the anime critic talked about happens.
notice the 'look like' in the normal life one....and the fact we don't know whose. -_- also, for the last one, the theories are all pretty damn specific. I'd hardly discount something like them occurring
anyway, thanks again to CG.
lazyasian224
2007-11-27, 15:50
well, somewhat good news everybody.
according to Celiss Galvea over at Gamefaqs, 2ch spoiler guy Pubes/y1ANO80z6E made an appearance on the site over the weekend and confirmed that Geass will indeed be taking Gundam 00's sat 6pm time slot in April.
If anyone was looking for confirmation, this is basically as close as we're going to get until an actual official announcement.
APRIL! THIS IS BLASPHEMY!
:D ehh thats a long while to wait but hey, its well worth waiting for
anyone have any idea on what the new season will be called?
Meatrose
2007-11-27, 18:19
anyone have any idea on what the new season will be called?
Code Geass II: The Gruesome Death of Suzaku
lazyasian224
2007-11-27, 18:26
... season starts out with everyone back to normal and life is regular. Then flashback shows Suzaku killing lulu, karen killing suzaku with a blunt object, karen killing herself, the black knights getting crushed and executed, lulu's sister on jupiter, um and that crazy chic with the bomb thingy getting sent to a mental hospital and then the episode ends, the season is concluded in one ep, and gundam 00 starts up again the next week... :D
Code Geass II: The Gruesome Death of Suzaku
This is the official title??? or what
This is the official title??? or what
no. :heh:
APRIL! THIS IS BLASPHEMY!
:D ehh thats a long while to wait but hey, its well worth waiting for
anyone have any idea on what the new season will be called?
Well, seeing as how its no longer a rebelliob but a war. It might just be called Lelouch of the World War? Something of the sort.
lolz.. Code Geass II: The Gruesome Death of Suzaku is nice title for me..
Well just wait for the 2nd Season.. 5 month... I think I will die in that time
Darksage12
2007-11-28, 05:11
Well, seeing as how its no longer a rebelliob but a war. It might just be called Lelouch of the World War? Something of the sort.
That actually has a nice ring to it ^__^
Jeffry2009
2007-11-28, 07:29
is this true? i don't think s2 will aired after the first season of gundam 00 ends. it's just a repeated broadcast of the first season.
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-11-28, 07:53
is this true? i don't think s2 will aired after the first season of gundam 00 ends. it's just a repeated broadcast of the first season.
The repeat broadcast has already started, and thus has nothing to do with CG2. CG2's restarting in 00's time slot is almost certain.
So now I have this and the School Days OVA to look forward to, as for the ending of the first season...
You think maybe Suzaku shot Lelouch in one of his eyes? Unless CC comes back and can provide another Geass boost, Lelouch is geassless and misses a way to really gain back authority over his soldiers. On the other hand if he can get Geass back or he gets shot in his human eye, he can't so much as show anyone his face without risking accidentally telling them to do something.
lazyasian224
2007-11-28, 17:57
So now I have this and the School Days OVA to look forward to, as for the ending of the first season...
You think maybe Suzaku shot Lelouch in one of his eyes? Unless CC comes back and can provide another Geass boost, Lelouch is geassless and misses a way to really gain back authority over his soldiers. On the other hand if he can get Geass back or he gets shot in his human eye, he can't so much as show anyone his face without risking accidentally telling them to do something.
wouldnt getting shot in the eye lead to death? umm... if anything seriously, id think that kallen or karen or WHAT EVER U WANNA NAME HER probably shoots since out of the three of them, she seemed the most unstable, she had pretty much broken down into nothing when Lulu showed his face so she might just shoot Lulu out of pure passion since shes also more passionate and agressive imo compared to the other two about her cause.
wouldnt getting shot in the eye lead to death? umm... if anything seriously, id think that kallen or karen or WHAT EVER U WANNA NAME HER probably shoots since out of the three of them, she seemed the most unstable, she had pretty much broken down into nothing when Lulu showed his face so she might just shoot Lulu out of pure passion since shes also more passionate and agressive imo compared to the other two about her cause.
I was thinking it would stop at the eye, but if the bullet were to go through it'd probably hit his brain and kill him. I could see Kallen being the one to shoot him though.
wouldnt getting shot in the eye lead to death? umm... if anything seriously, id think that kallen or karen or WHAT EVER U WANNA NAME HER probably shoots since out of the three of them, she seemed the most unstable, she had pretty much broken down into nothing when Lulu showed his face so she might just shoot Lulu out of pure passion since shes also more passionate and agressive imo compared to the other two about her cause.
actually, Suzaku looked like he was the most emotionally unstable at that point. I mean Kallen was out of it, but she wasn't shaking so hard she could barely keep a gun pointing straight.
lazyasian224
2007-11-28, 22:05
actually, Suzaku looked like he was the most emotionally unstable at that point. I mean Kallen was out of it, but she wasn't shaking so hard she could barely keep a gun pointing straight.
well u made me look back at the last episode bc im that bored :D
and ive made the conclusion that Kallen shot Suzaku because unlike suzaku, she still values her own life as she must still fulfill her brother and ougi's wishes. Despite the fact that Lulu partially betrayed her, she still needs to stay alive in order to free Japan. Her face gives it away when Lulu whips out the sakurdurite or w.e and she sort of regains composure when Suzaku is struggling to aim at Lulu.
either that, or Ougi's wife/whatever Chigusa or something will just pop outa no where since we have no idea where she peaced out to...
or maybe kallen just shoots as like a way of preventing or distracting Suzaku or lulu from killing eachother...
being tired and dellusional really helps u think up of some weird things :D
Bailaora
2007-11-29, 08:31
ashlay
May I ask you to provide a link to the spoileric discussion over at GameFAQs?
I can't find it.
Darksage12
2007-11-29, 09:13
Well, Code Geass is not really the Anime for it, but what if someone else [a new geass-user hopefully] shot one of the three from the shadows?
It would create quite a stir if you ask me.
However, I still think Kallen/ Karen shot suzaku, since she doesn't want to die and she will when Lelouch dies. [Liquid sakuradite --> kaboom]
It is strange though, that Lelouch is willing to take his own life, his sisters life, the life of his best friend and the life of his most loyal companion, to make sure his sister won't live in a world where she won't be happy.
Maybe he's just bluffing :hmm:
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-11-29, 09:20
Well, Code Geass is not really the Anime for it, but what if someone else [a new geass-user hopefully] shot one of the three from the shadows?
It would create quite a stir if you ask me.
However, I still think Kallen/ Karen shot suzaku, since she doesn't want to die and she will when Lelouch dies. [Liquid sakuradite --> kaboom]
It is strange though, that Lelouch is willing to take his own life, his sisters life, the life of his best friend and the life of his most loyal companion, to make sure his sister won't live in a world where she won't be happy.
Maybe he's just bluffing :hmm:
According to the animation staff, it was a last-minute decision to add the bomb because it was the only thing that could prevent Suzaku from killing Lelouch immediately. Whether the bomb was a bluff or not doesn't really matter; it wouldn't go off either way, story-wise.
According to the animation staff, it was a last-minute decision to add the bomb because it was the only thing that could prevent Suzaku from killing Lelouch immediately. Whether the bomb was a bluff or not doesn't really matter; it wouldn't go off either way, story-wise.
yeah, apparently that was Taniguchi's decision, since he thought Suzaku wouldn't give Lelouch a chance to explain the Nunnally thing, and just blow Lelouch's brains out if not given a reason to pause.
though on the other hand, knowing Lelouch and his tendency to bluff all his threats, it was probably a fake. and knowing Suzaku (and what happened to Lancelot at the school), Suzaku probably knows it's a fake too. Only one who'd without a doubt believe it is Kallen.
@Bailaora:
Search for "Mao" on GameFAQs.
Bailaora
2007-12-02, 15:58
@Galvea
Thank you.
yeah, apparently that was Taniguchi's decision, since he thought Suzaku wouldn't give Lelouch a chance to explain the Nunnally thing, and just blow Lelouch's brains out if not given a reason to pause.
though on the other hand, knowing Lelouch and his tendency to bluff all his threats, it was probably a fake. and knowing Suzaku (and what happened to Lancelot at the school), Suzaku probably knows it's a fake too. Only one who'd without a doubt believe it is Kallen.
Lelouch even when he bluffs he realy rdoesn't count on luck, he is smart enough to know against who he can bluff.
Knowing Lelouch he already thought something up for a situation like this, and done something ahead of time, like analasing Suzaku way of shooting a gun, so he can where a little plate on his chest so to stop the bullet.
Lulu reminds me so much of Light of Death Note...
Still, I'd say Light > Lulu
They both good though :D
Lulu reminds me so much of Light of Death Note...
Still, I'd say Light > Lulu
They both good though :D
that's a topic for the character discussion thread. And for the last time, Lelouch=/=Light.
There's a huge gap between characters whose raison d'ętre is another person and one whose raison d'ętre is no one but themselves.
Lelouch even when he bluffs he realy rdoesn't count on luck, he is smart enough to know against who he can bluff.
Knowing Lelouch he already thought something up for a situation like this, and done something ahead of time, like analasing Suzaku way of shooting a gun, so he can where a little plate on his chest so to stop the bullet.
I figured in the context of the story, the 'bomb' (whether it be real or fake) was his backup for such a problem. I mean there's no way Lelouch can analyze something as random as a firing pattern, especially from someone he's never actually seen firing a gun.
Darksage12
2007-12-04, 14:05
I figured in the context of the story, the 'bomb' (whether it be real or fake) was his backup for such a problem. I mean there's no way Lelouch can analyze something as random as a firing pattern, especially from someone he's never actually seen firing a gun.
I agree, besides, Lulu wouldn't just put that plate on himself to stop Suzaku from shooting. He knows Suzaku would simply avoid the plate.
No, I think this was his backup plan [some of his plans already failed, and I think this is another failure. He was blinded by his angst for V.V. and didn't overthink the situation. However, if I would have been him, I wouldn't have overthought it either, cause I didn't think Suzaku would show up. Or Karen/ Kallen.
-KarumA-
2007-12-04, 14:43
shouldn't Suzaku's will to kill Lelouch activate his LIVE! geass effect?
because if Lelouch dies then, BOOM! Suzaku go bye bye as well o.o;
shouldn't Suzaku's will to kill Lelouch activate his LIVE! geass effect?
because if Lelouch dies then, BOOM! Suzaku go bye bye as well o.o;
If Suzaku doesn't believe the bomb is a real one, or if the command does indeed require someone to mention the word "live" to activate, not necessarily.
Darksage12
2007-12-05, 08:54
If Suzaku doesn't believe the bomb is a real one, or if the command does indeed require someone to mention the word "live" to activate, not necessarily.
So Lulu might still say the word... To save his butt, and Kallen's ^__^
So Lulu might still say the word... To save his butt, and Kallen's ^__^
Doubtful. He's currently mentally insane.
Valerian Mengsk
2007-12-05, 12:14
Okay here is my argument for where the second season of code geass will open up.
I think that there are several options, time wise for when it will begin.
1)A year or two after the end of episode of 24-25. (The one I like the most)
2)A couple of weeks/months after that day (The most reasonable in my mind)
3)Right back to that moment it left us hanging at the end of the episode. (The most likely way it is going to happen)
Personally I prefer option 1 or 2 for several reasons. But first lets get option 3 out of the way.
Okay, if we start the next season at the exact point it left off us:
A)We get to see who got shot.
B)We get to know what happens to nuclear Nina
C)We immediately know the fate of the OotBK and Japan.
D)We get to see what happens to C.C. (maybe)
This is all good and where Sunrise would get the most fan support because everyone wants to see the culmination of those events as fast as possible.
But this option has its problems:
A) It doesn’t leave much room for a new arc, which I hypothesize is what Sunrise is aiming for. I say this because the current arc is Zero’s rise to power in Japan which is all well and good, but he is trying to conquer freaking Britannia! Which seems to own North America, England, and maybe South America (doubt it), and parts of the Middle East. Lelouch needs to expand beyond Japan and find more allies and pawns that are willing to help him recognize his dream.
B) It leaves all the characters in a chaotic state without a chance to cool off and think things through and re-analyze their motivations and goals, that takes time, as in months no years in some cases (Suzaku anyone). I f things continue the way they are we are going to have way to many frustrated characters who will interfere with the overall story-line.
C) Face it, Lelouch needs time to expand his power base; he might end up losing Japan to the 6 head families of Kyoto and end up with a battle-weary and depleted OotBK, if they don’t leave him entirely. Either way he needs time to build up forces for the monumental task of taking the fight to mainland Britannia.
Which leads me to (in my opinion the more fruitful) options 1 and 2:
This method allows the story of what happened in the past to be relayed through flashbacks by various characters, satisfying viewers and it allows other issues and events to take place that were only hinted at in the 1st season. (i.e. The emperor’s true intentions, more time to investigate the murder, increased involvement of geass users and their witch companions).
There are several scenarios that can take place in regard to these options.
Scenario A) The OotBK manages to defeat the Britannian occupation forces without Lelouch, though at a terrible cost in lives and equipment and are shortly after overwhelmed by the relief force from the mainland and are left shattered and on the run.
B) The OotBK (still without Lelouch) still defeats the present Britannian forces only to be attacked by Chinese union forces that proceed to invade Japan and fortify it against the relief contingent from Britannia which turns Japan into a bloody battlefield between the two countries sapping the strength of both militaries.
C) Lelouch/Zero returns (after somehow resolving his other problems) in time to lead the OotBK to victory and stave off both the reinforcements and the CU. But now he has to begin the process of ruling a nation while staving off other opportunistic nations and dissonant forces within Japan itself as well as continue to wage a war against the only remaining superpower in the world. (unlikely)
D) Nina goes boom, sometime over the next few days, destroying a huge chunk of the surrounding city. (Or the reinforcement fleet, if she is manipulated into doing so) (Surprisingly possible)
Note: Anyway I look at it Japan and its citizens are either stuck in a battlefield or dominated once again by Britannia.
Note: Feel free to dispute this.
Either way, Lelouch has lost most of his backing and /or forces due to battle, general chaos, and among those who have lost faith in his abilities and dependability. He will need time to begin to rebuild and it will be kind of nice if we fast-forwarded to where he is able to influence the world again.
That’s enough for now I think, give me some feedback if you feel like it, and I thank you for reading this huge load of speculation. I will continue to post on other matters supporting my hypothesis later, and am looking forward to people pointing out the holes in my argument so I can debate with them, or fix it.
…..Man I sound like a teacher, dammit…:uhoh:
Jeffry2009
2007-12-05, 12:18
Okay here is my argument for where the second season of code geass will open up.
I think that there are several options, time wise for when it will begin.
1)A year or two after the end of episode of 24-25. (The one I like the most)
2)A couple of weeks/months after that day (The most reasonable in my mind)
3)Right back to that moment it left us hanging at the end of the episode. (The most likely way it is going to happen)
Personally I prefer option 1 or 2 for several reasons. But first lets get option 3 out of the way.
Okay, if we start the next season at the exact point it left off us:
A)We get to see who got shot.
B)We get to know what happens to nuclear Nina
C)We immediately know the fate of the OotBK and Japan.
D)We get to see what happens to C.C. (maybe)
This is all good and where Sunrise would get the most fan support because everyone wants to see the culmination of those events as fast as possible.
But this option has its problems:
A) It doesn’t leave much room for a new arc, which I hypothesize is what Sunrise is aiming for. I say this because the current arc is Zero’s rise to power in Japan which is all well and good, but he is trying to conquer freaking Britannia! Which seems to own North America, England, and maybe South America (doubt it), and parts of the Middle East. Lelouch needs to expand beyond Japan and find more allies and pawns that are willing to help him recognize his dream.
B) It leaves all the characters in a chaotic state without a chance to cool off and think things through and re-analyze their motivations and goals, that takes time, as in months no years in some cases (Suzaku anyone). I f things continue the way they are we are going to have way to many frustrated characters who will interfere with the overall story-line.
C) Face it, Lelouch needs time to expand his power base; he might end up losing Japan to the 6 head families of Kyoto and end up with a battle-weary and depleted OotBK, if they don’t leave him entirely. Either way he needs time to build up forces for the monumental task of taking the fight to mainland Britannia.
Which leads me to (in my opinion the more fruitful) options 1 and 2:
This method allows the story of what happened in the past to be relayed through flashbacks by various characters, satisfying viewers and it allows other issues and events to take place that were only hinted at in the 1st season. (i.e. The emperor’s true intentions, more time to investigate the murder, increased involvement of geass users and their witch companions).
There are several scenarios that can take place in regard to these options.
Scenario A) The OotBK manages to defeat the Britannian occupation forces without Lelouch, though at a terrible cost in lives and equipment and are shortly after overwhelmed by the relief force from the mainland and are left shattered and on the run.
B) The OotBK (still without Lelouch) still defeats the present Britannian forces only to be attacked by Chinese union forces that proceed to invade Japan and fortify it against the relief contingent from Britannia which turns Japan into a bloody battlefield between the two countries sapping the strength of both militaries.
C) Lelouch/Zero returns (after somehow resolving his other problems) in time to lead the OotBK to victory and stave off both the reinforcements and the CU. But now he has to begin the process of ruling a nation while staving off other opportunistic nations and dissonant forces within Japan itself as well as continue to wage a war against the only remaining superpower in the world. (unlikely)
D) Nina goes boom, sometime over the next few days, destroying a huge chunk of the surrounding city. (Or the reinforcement fleet, if she is manipulated into doing so) (Surprisingly possible)
Note: Anyway I look at it Japan and its citizens are either stuck in a battlefield or dominated once again by Britannia.
Note: Feel free to dispute this.
Either way, Lelouch has lost most of his backing and /or forces due to battle, general chaos, and among those who have lost faith in his abilities and dependability. He will need time to begin to rebuild and it will be kind of nice if we fast-forwarded to where he is able to influence the world again.
That’s enough for now I think, give me some feedback if you feel like it, and I thank you for reading this huge load of speculation. I will continue to post on other matters supporting my hypothesis later, and am looking forward to people pointing out the holes in my argument so I can debate with them, or fix it.
…..Man I sound like a teacher, dammit…:uhoh:
that's exactly what i like to hear! :D
I don't know.
I've been toying with the idea since 2chan spoiler guy's recent comments and the line about "season 2 being the Black Knights' battle" that the Black Knights on their own, without Zero at all, and proceed to reform Japan. I mean given how much goes completely wrong for Lelouch, it would be rather unexpected if his creation actually did what he told them to do and won the war.
LoweGear
2007-12-06, 01:54
Can anyone confirm this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/th_1196922430114.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1196922430114.jpg)
Li Jianliang
2007-12-06, 02:05
Can anyone confirm this?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/th_1196922430114.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1196922430114.jpg)Yes. The article in the latest issue of Newtype confirms that the second season of CODE GEASS Lelouch of the Rebellion will start airing in Spring 2008. Producer Kawaguchi announces that the person behind the Zero mask is a secret (highly possible that it's not Lelouch anymore). A new character, who was briefly shown after the ending credits of episode 25 *points to the extremely effeminate-looking guy in the center of the picture*, will be introduced. Suzaku has promotions.
Samanosuke
2007-12-06, 02:07
I get the feeling that Zero is not lelouch anymore , however , considering they still call the show " lelouch of the rebellion " , that means he Most Probably isn't dead :S
Ottocycle
2007-12-06, 02:14
I get the feeling that Zero is not lelouch anymore , however , considering they still call the show " lelouch of the rebellion " , that means he Most Probably isn't dead :S
I think there's still a possibility that the producers might change the sub-title of the new series, since it's now still just called 'Code Geass - Lelouch of the Rebellion New Series', even if there isn't a '仮' in the stated title.
SoldierOfDarkness
2007-12-06, 02:17
Yes. The article in the latest issue of Newtype confirms that the second season of CODE GEASS Lelouch of the Rebellion will start airing in Spring 2008. Producer Kawaguchi announces that the person behind the Zero mask is a secret (highly possible that it's not Lelouch anymore). A new character, who was briefly shown after the ending credits of episode 25 *points to the extremely effeminate-looking guy in the center of the picture*, will be introduced. Suzaku has promotions.
ARGHHHHHH the wait is killing me.
And I never noticed that guy after 25's credits.
Samanosuke
2007-12-06, 02:29
I think there's still a possibility that the producers might change the sub-title of the new series, since it's now still just called 'Code Geass - Lelouch of the Rebellion New Series', even if there isn't a '仮' in the stated title.
Blargh , Thank you for destroying my hopes . :frustrated:
/jk .
I guess they indeed can change the title of the series , which bring me to ask...if there as been..any news from JunJun or something...just a lil' bit of hint to tell us the fate of Lelouch ;_; .
Although i'm starting to think now that if Suzaku survived and got a promotion , that's maybe because he got to accomplish.."something" for Britannia >_> .
And also the fact that he probably would not have left the island by letting Lelouch get away..easily .
If that skinny guy that looks like to fal apart becomes the main char Code Geass will be ruined.
Now mater what people may think about Lelouch most people watch the show because of him, and if he been replaced with some kid with a big head I wonder how popular Code Geass will be when S2 takes place.
It's highly doubtful that Lelouch is dead.
Marioshinobi
2007-12-06, 04:20
CODE GEASS SEASON 2 CONFIRMED;
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-12-06/new-code-geass-tv-series-confirmed-for-spring-2008
lazyasian224
2007-12-06, 06:50
haha wow was just about to link that... WOOT SEASON 2 MORE KALLEN!
Lelouch will still be the main character, but I think it's an interesting plot device to have someone else behind the mask. It might even happen that they will eventually execute this fake Zero and everyone but C.C, Kallen, Suzaku and probably the Emperor (am I forgetting someone?) will think he is dead.:)
oh, like the new back skirt on the zero costume. hopefully a slightly better quality scan will show up, since Rollo kinda looks like he has Nunnally colored hair in that picture... >_>
anyway,
Translation for the character descriptions, if anyone wants them:
Zero
Zero's new costume and mask, revealed. Who is behind the mask? The position of the horns on the new mask have changed...
Suzaku
Suzaku, who is not only Euphemia's Knight but also a Japanese facing persecution, now wears a new Knight outfit. Has something happened [to him] after Euphemia died?
Rollo
The new bishounen character. He wears... the Ashford Academy uniform. Is the Academy still around? His existence poses a question (*an alternative interpretation is "problem") to the world.
Summary of Kawaguchi's message (the bunch of text below). Nothing new, though.
- Season 2 will, like season 1, continue to include "school life and everything else".
- Although season 2 takes place after the "Zero Incident" in episode 25, it is written in a way that will allow new viewers to follow the story.
- Stage change, from Japan to the World.
- (One of?) The (many?) theme(s) of "Code Geass" -- fighting against the world -- remains unchanged.
Valerian Mengsk
2007-12-06, 12:08
It appears some of my predictions were correct. If anyone happened to read my monster post on page 174 of this forum. I told you Lelouch needed time and would probably lose the OotBK and this probably confirms it. Especially if this will take place on the world stage. Oh, and if that guy is from Asford Academy, that means that the academy has either been moved to a new location or the one in Japan was eventually reopended.
BTW, even though they say alot about people still attending school I doubt lelouch will be among them. If he is traveling the world he can pick up an number of seperate identities to expediate his plans. I do think Karen might though, if she was ordered to go to ground. And I suzaku may as well since that was Euphemia's dying wish, and then you have the new zero. These three interacting at Ashford (maybe) might parallel the first season, or not depending on the new zero's (rollo's?) personality.
-KarumA-
2007-12-06, 14:54
oh, like the new back skirt on the zero costume. hopefully a slightly better quality scan will show up, since Rollo kinda looks like he has Nunnally colored hair in that picture... >_>
anyway,
scan? :eyebrow: where did you view the scan?
can someone link it up?
either way, brilliant news =3 cheers...
random mussing: i thought V.V. was a guy :S
edit: found the image =3 sorry
edit again: Rollo reminds me of those caramel filled chocolates :x
darkdhaos
2007-12-06, 16:49
Originally Posted by Celiss Galvea
Translation for the character descriptions, if anyone wants them:
Zero
Zero's new costume and mask, revealed. Who is behind the mask? The position of the horns on the new mask have changed...
Suzaku
Suzaku, who is not only Euphemia's Knight but also a Japanese facing persecution, now wears a new Knight outfit. Has something happened [to him] after Euphemia died?
Rollo
The new bishounen character. He wears... the Ashford Academy uniform. Is the Academy still around? His existence poses a question (*an alternative interpretation is "problem") to the world.
Summary of Kawaguchi's message (the bunch of text below). Nothing new, though.
- Season 2 will, like season 1, continue to include "school life and everything else".
- Although season 2 takes place after the "Zero Incident" in episode 25, it is written in a way that will allow new viewers to follow the story.
- Stage change, from Japan to the World.
- (One of?) The (many?) theme(s) of "Code Geass" -- fighting against the world -- remains unchanged.
Now that I think about it.
Why is Suzaku refered as japanese, and not as eleven or honorary Britannian?
It could be a stupid question, but I think is worthy of some importance.
Blue_Mercy
2007-12-06, 16:55
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/12/06/random-musings-code-geass-second-series-in-spring/
With this new information alot of things people have said can be confirmed and other things put to rest.
As many others thought including myself the fight will be taken to the whole world, which is obvious if you want to fight Britannia's country. The next is that we can say with somewhat certainty that the Black Knights make a comeback through some way.
Yes unfortunately everyone's favorite ****head Suzaku makes his return with his Britannian uniform. The killing off of the Lelouch is still very unlikely because of how popular a character he was. The thing I want to know about is this new character Rollo, it was obvious we would be getting new characters in the second season, but is he a geass user like Lelouch and Mao? Is he more like C.C. and V.V.? Though I doubt the second one since they both go by initials.
SoldierOfDarkness
2007-12-06, 20:50
Now that I think about it.
Why is Suzaku refered as japanese, and not as eleven or honorary Britannian?
It could be a stupid question, but I think is worthy of some importance.
A better question is how can they still have a "school life?"
If Japan breaks free, all of the britannians one way or the other are gonna have to leave or get evicted.
A better question is how can they still have a "school life?"
If Japan breaks free, all of the britannians one way or the other are gonna have to leave or get evicted.
maybe, maybe not. Lelouch left all those words about equality and whatnot back at Kyoto, and considering the black knights' leaders include Diethard, Lakshata, and Ogi, (and Kaguya probably falls into this faction too, being the huge Zero fangirl and close childhood friend of a traitor that she is) I don't think they're going to have a problem pushing such ideas even without Lelouch.
not to mention we don't even know if they will break free. :rolleyes:
ZombieSheep
2007-12-07, 00:09
maybe, maybe not. Lelouch left all those words about equality and whatnot back at Kyoto, and considering the black knights' leaders include Diethard, Lakshata, and Ogi, (and Kaguya probably falls into this faction too, being the huge Zero fangirl and close childhood friend of a traitor that she is) I don't think they're going to have a problem pushing such ideas even without Lelouch.
not to mention we don't even know if they will break free. :rolleyes:
I think the question should be where instead of how. we saw how the air ship thingy (forgot name already) took all the ashford student aboard. since the show is suppose to take on the world stage, I don't think moving the school to main land would be too far fetch.
Marioshinobi
2007-12-07, 01:07
The Issue with there being a impersonator for Lelouch is...NO GEASS.
I know they could also rename the series; Code Geass: Lelouch of the Rebellion. There's been manga named Suzaku of the counterattack and Nunally's Knightmare.
The issue with these are...season two could be named anything after any character; Code Geass: New kid of Ignorant Uke-ness >>;
If Suzaku survived, Lelouch's bomb didn't go off; Therefore he's wounded most likely. There's still speculation Kallen shot Suzaku so I'd assume it was to disarm him. Lelouch probably missed knowing he's not exactly shooting his Sister and he's shooting a l33t machine gun haxor.
Anyhow my main point is;
Series could be Renamed for new character.
Kallen probably disarmed Suzaku, Suzaku Dodged Lelouch with his Hax
Lelouch might disappear from the stage; He's near a Geass Wall so it might activate and take him away.
C.C. Is in underwater hell with a Squeezed Orange.
seems pretty clear from the scan that Suzaku made it out of the cave and back to Cornelia and/or Schneizel, and got some sort of promotion to go with his nice new threads. And I somewhat doubt he'd go running with his tail between his legs as opposed to trying to strangle Lelouch with his bare hands if forced to.
have to say the most likely outcome is that Lelouch is the one with the fake death.
ZombieSheep
2007-12-07, 01:22
The Issue with there being a impersonator for Lelouch is...NO GEASS.
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If Suzaku survived, Lelouch's bomb didn't go off; Therefore he's wounded most likely. There's still speculation Kallen shot Suzaku so I'd assume it was to disarm him. Lelouch probably missed knowing he's not exactly shooting his Sister and he's shooting a l33t machine gun haxor.
Well Lelouch doesn't command his army with GEASS, just for running the black knights, he won't need Geass. I'm assuming that's what the new zero is doing otherwise I don't see a reason for anybody to fake that identity. Unless it's used by the loyalties to lower moral of Japan.
As for bomb not going off, that doesn't means Lelouch didn't die, I doubt he died due to popularity, but that bomb guarantee nothing, especially against Suzaku.
Suzaku could easily disable Lelouch, remove the bomb, then kill Lelouch. Suzaku has dodge stronger people with guns before, I'm sure Lelouch would be even easier.
Marioshinobi
2007-12-07, 01:33
I'm just stating that most of Lelouch's plans and traps were due to Lelouch using Geass on people and getting information.
Cornelia's battle was caused by him geassing the workers and causing the whole establishment to fall. He met up with the old guy and Geassed the driver to see for a trap and set up C.C. to get de-masked. He even geassed Suzaku to save himself by telling him to "Live!"
The Geass matters very much so in Lelouch's battle, thats why his plans work out so well to begin with. If he doesn't pull off miracle battles and victories then the battle would start to fall out of hand.
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