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tripperazn
2008-02-06, 02:59
Woah there, you might want to spoiler tag that first line. This might fit better with the manga discussion thread, since the people there will be better able to answer your questions.
anyone knows what's going on with the english subbers for the anime?
Major1138
2008-02-16, 01:22
anyone knows what's going on with the english subbers for the anime?
I think they've more or less said that while they haven't dropped the show, it's a lower priority for them than their other ones, so the subs will come out as they are finished.
We recently enlisted the help of an additional typesetter. With her help, we should be able to catch up again ;)
As a kickstart, 42 and 43 were just released.
We recently enlisted the help of an additional typesetter. With her help, we should be able to catch up again ;)
As a kickstart, 42 and 43 were just released.
Just watched them, arigatou as always :)
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/6623/compheroinesvol9wv1.th.jpg (http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=compheroinesvol9wv1.jpg)
The next issue (Vol. 9) of Comp H's (Comp Heroines) magazine features new anime series debuting in Spring 2008 and anime series ending in Spring 2008. New anime series debuting in Spring 2008 named on the front cover are To LOVE Ru, Kanokon, and Wagaya no Oinarisama. Anime series ending in Spring 2008 named on the front cover are CLANNAD, Shakugan no Shana II, Hayate no Gotoku! [Hayate the Combat Butler], Bamboo Blade, etc.
Noooooooooooooooooo! :upset: Ah well, all good things come to an end...but I'm surprised it's not getting a 5th season given how they seem to be going with filler lately...
Eviltape
2008-02-17, 12:30
I do remember that she was already adopted when she was young and was sent to a school. a prestigeschool or not I cant remember.
please can any one confirm this?
She went to Hakuou, iirc. It all depends on if Hakuou had a Kindergarten grade level, until Kenjiro gives us more.
Siegel Clyne
2008-02-19, 07:35
Noooooooooooooooooo! :upset: Ah well, all good things come to an end...but I'm surprised it's not getting a 5th season given how they seem to be going with filler lately...
Ironically, Hayate the Combat Butler has lately been drawing its best television household audience ratings during its one year run in the Kantou region of Japan (Tokyo, Yokohama, Kawasaki, Saitama, Chiba, etc.), averaging 4.0% or more with the most recent episodes.
Before its recent string of 4.0+% ratings, Hayate managed to reach 4.0% only once before, with the original, much maligned episode 10.
More importantly, perhaps, Hayate has recently been drawing significantly higher TV ratings than the anime show which leads in to it on TV Tokyo, Anime Robby.
Going up against the Tokyo Marathon this past Sunday, which scored a rating of 20.6%, Hayate still managed to draw a respectable rating of 3.9% (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1408766&postcount=197).
Maybe, just maybe...
3/09「普通の話」
3/16「クイズ！宿敵と書いて友と読む！！」
3/23「春」
3/30「RADICAL DREAMRS」(終)
got this from 2chan -
speculated episode titles for the final four episodes of Hayate. If those titles were true, I have an idea on how they are going to end it.
HINT: manga special chapter. It's cool that they are ending it with one of my favorite chapters in the manga (albeit Nagi-centric). Just a consolation for the disappointment of not getting to see the Hina chapters animated. Hopefully a second season will get my hopes up.
May I know where could I see the anime. I've searched the whole YouTube and I've seen no sign or thread of Hayate's anime? Can anyone tell me where I could watch or even download the anime series? A thousand thanks :D
relentlessflame
2008-02-24, 00:32
May I know where could I see the anime. I've searched the whole YouTube and I've seen no sign or thread of Hayate's anime? Can anyone tell me where I could watch or even download the anime series? A thousand thanks :DWell, I suppose the most natural answer would be: Right here on AnimeSuki (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/993.html). :p
Siegel Clyne
2008-03-05, 06:13
In Vol. 173, March 5, 2008 of WEB Sunday's BACKSTAGE (http://www.websunday.net/backstage/hata.html) with Hayate no Gotoku! (Hayate the Combat Butler) mangaka Hata Kenjirou, Hata reveals that something new is in the works for Hayate no Gotoku!
Use this link (http://www.websunday.net/backstage/hata173.html) to see Vol. 173 of Backstage with Hayate the Combat Butler comic artist Kenjiro Hata after Vol. 174 comes out next week.
The current Hayate no Gotoku! television anime series - the 52nd and final episode airs on TV Tokyo Sunday, March 30, 2008 - was scheduled from the start to run for only a year.
Speculations by Japanese fans on the something new being planned for Hayate no Gotoku! include 1) a second television anime series; 2) OVAs (a la Ranma 1/2 and Tennis no Oujisama {Prince of Tennis}); 3) an animated film; 4) a live action television series (a la Negima); and 5) a live action movie (a la Higurashi).
Someone even suggested a musical a la Sakura Taisen (Sakura Wars).
Sakura Taisen used the same seiyuu from the games, the OVAs, and the television anime series in the musicals. However unlikely the event, a Hayate no Gotoku! musical probably would go the Sailormoon and Tennis no Oujisama route, employing stage actors instead of the seiyuu from the anime.
In addition, a lot of the Hayate no Gotoku! seiyuu are comparatively younger than the Sakura Taisen veteran seiyuu who performed in the Sakura Taisen musicals, and, anyway, are just too busy doing low paying voice work in anime (including the many late night, UHF, and CS/BS broadcasted anime series which have sprung up after the 1990s) to perform in musicals.
In Vol. 173, March 5, 2008 of BACKSTAGE (http://www.websunday.net/backstage/hata.html) with Hayate no Gotoku! (Hayate the Combat Butler) mangaka Hata Kenjirou, Hata reveals that something new is in the works for Hayate no Gotoku!
Use this link (http://www.websunday.net/backstage/hata173.html) to see Vol. 173 of Backstage with Hayate the Combat Butler comic artist Kenjiro Hata after Vol. 174 comes out next week.
The current Hayate no Gotoku! television anime series - the 52nd and final episode airs on TV Tokyo Sunday, March 30, 2008 - was scheduled from the start to run for only a year.
Speculations by Japanese fans on the something new being planned for Hayate no Gotoku! include 1) a second television anime series; 2) OVAs; 3) an animated film; 4) a live action television series (a la Negima); and 5) a live action movie (a la Higurashi).
please let this be the second television anime series... *prays*
In Vol. 173, March 5, 2008 of BACKSTAGE (http://www.websunday.net/backstage/hata.html) with Hayate no Gotoku! (Hayate the Combat Butler) mangaka Hata Kenjirou, Hata reveals that something new is in the works for Hayate no Gotoku!
Use this link (http://www.websunday.net/backstage/hata173.html) to see Vol. 173 of Backstage with Hayate the Combat Butler comic artist Kenjiro Hata after Vol. 174 comes out next week.
The current Hayate no Gotoku! television anime series - the 52nd and final episode airs on TV Tokyo Sunday, March 30, 2008 - was scheduled from the start to run for only a year.
Speculations by Japanese fans on the something new being planned for Hayate no Gotoku! include 1) a second television anime series; 2) OVAs (a la Ranma 1/2 and Tennis no Oujisama {Prince of Tennis}); 3) an animated film; 4) a live action television series (a la Negima); and 5) a live action movie (a la Higurashi).
Someone even suggested a musical a la Sakura Taisen (Sakura Wars).
Sakura Taisen used the same seiyuu from the games, the OVAs, and the television anime series in the musicals. However unlikely the event, a Hayate no Gotoku! musical probably would go the Sailormoon and Tennis no Oujisama route, employing stage actors instead of the seiyuu from the anime.
this is some good news, now I can't wait for the second season if their is one
Pleeeeeease let me it another season! 52 episodes isn't quite enough. :)
HayashiTakara
2008-03-07, 02:08
so... I stopped watching the show about 15 episodes ago... it was getting extremely repetative with no character growths. Has it gotten any better? Is there a solid plot leading to a resolution? or is it destined to be open ended with nothing resolved?
I've personally felt that it has gotten better. Yes, I can understand what you mean by it being repetitive and not too long ago I was starting to feel the same way. But, somehow it's gotten more interesting for me once again.
I don't think there is anything in the way of a solid plot with a resolution, but then again, that's not exactly what this show is about is it? It's just fun to watch, it's not meant to tell a deep and thought provoking story.
HayashiTakara
2008-03-07, 04:17
I honestly went into this show like I usually do, and thats without knowing exactly what its about, I like to be surprised. I can understand the randomness, and I don't mind so much as the lack of a central plot with resolution, but I always want character growth and resolution, otherwise it'll feel more like a waste of time, know what i mean?
Silverwyrm
2008-03-08, 00:20
I honestly went into this show like I usually do, and thats without knowing exactly what its about, I like to be surprised. I can understand the randomness, and I don't mind so much as the lack of a central plot with resolution, but I always want character growth and resolution, otherwise it'll feel more like a waste of time, know what i mean?
15 ep ago so about 33? yea it was pretty dull then for me but after butler battle arc is over I have loved every episode since, it REALLY did pick up for me again and Im glad I stuck with it.
Siegel Clyne
2008-03-27, 03:52
More Anime Planned for Hayate the Combat Butler? (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1441020&postcount=1761)
In Vol. 173, March 5, 2008 of WEB Sunday's BACKSTAGE (http://www.websunday.net/backstage/hata.html) with Hayate no Gotoku! (Hayate the Combat Butler) mangaka Hata Kenjirou, Hata reveals that something new is in the works for Hayate no Gotoku!
Use this link (http://www.websunday.net/backstage/hata173.html) to see Vol. 173 of Backstage with Hayate the Combat Butler comic artist Kenjiro Hata after Vol. 174 comes out next week.
The current Hayate no Gotoku! television anime series - the 52nd and final episode airs on TV Tokyo Sunday, March 30, 2008 - was scheduled from the start to run for only a year.
Speculations by Japanese fans on the something new being planned for Hayate no Gotoku! include 1) a second television anime series; 2) OVAs (a la Ranma 1/2 and Tennis no Oujisama {Prince of Tennis}); 3) an animated film; 4) a live action television series (a la Negima); and 5) a live action movie (a la Higurashi).
Someone even suggested a musical a la Sakura Taisen (Sakura Wars).
It has been posted on various 2ch threads that an important announcement will be done at the end of the 52nd and final episode of the Hayate no Gotoku! (Hayate the Combat Butler) television anime series, which will be broadcasted in the Kantou region on TV Tokyo, Sunday, March 30, 2008, 10:00am-10:30am.
If true, what would it be about?
Siegel Clyne
2008-04-20, 03:26
Compiled from Video Research Ltd. (http://www.videor.co.jp/index.htm) television household audience ratings data obtained at the National Diet Library (http://www.ndl.go.jp/en/) and posted by a reliable source on TV ratings threads at 2ch here, (http://anime3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/asaloon/1184027731/1-) here, (http://ex21.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime4vip/1204033268/1-) here (http://ex21.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime4vip/1208185941/1-) and perhaps elsewhere...
Average Television Household Audience Ratings for Hayate no Gotoku [Hayate the Combat Butler] in the Kantou Region, Japan (Tokyo, Yokohama, Kawasaki, Saitama, Chiba, etc.)
*2.5% Episode 40 2008/01/06 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*2.3% Episode 41 2008/01/13 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*3.5% Episode 42 2008/01/20 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*4.4% Episode 43 2008/01/27 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*4.1% Episode 44 2008/02/03 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*4.0% Episode 45 2008/02/10 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*3.9% Episode 46 2008/02/17 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*3.5% Episode 47 2008/02/24 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*3.3% Episode 48 2008/03/02 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*3.6% Episode 49 2008/03/09 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*3.4% Episode 50 2008/03/16 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*3.5% Episode 51 2008/03/23 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
*3.4% Episode 52 2008/03/30 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo
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*3.49% Episodes 40-52 (The End) [4th Cour] 2008/01/13 (Sunday) - 2008/03/30 (Sunday) 10:00am-10:30am TV Tokyo (http://p2.chbox.jp/read.php?url=http://anime3.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/asaloon/1208600322/513)
Television program household audience ratings data from Video Research Ltd. are reportedly available to the public at the National Diet Library beginning around two weeks after broadcasting.
According to the aforementioned reliable source at 2ch, however, TV ratings for programs airing on NHK-ETV (e.g., Anime Major) are not available to the public at the National Diet Library. These TV ratings are sometimes leaked at 2ch by sources with inside information.
Lauren Revolt
2008-04-20, 09:19
Hmm, why did it peak at around ep 43 then slowly and continually drop? o_o
Dr. Casey
2008-11-23, 00:00
Wow, those ratings are pretty awful. I'm surprised it got picked up for a second season.
I just got finished watching episode 20. Are there any more episodes with a decent emphasis on jealous Nagi? I always enjoy episodes that focus on the heroines being possessive of their love interest.
relentlessflame
2008-11-23, 19:27
Wow, those ratings are pretty awful. I'm surprised it got picked up for a second season.Compared to...? It's a lot more than most anime gets on TV (saving the classic and prime-time stuff). That being said, those ratings combined with above average DVD sales don't make it seem that unlikely. I mean, it's that or some other series that may or may not pull in better ratings in that timeslot, and most shows in that timeslot don't see nearly the DVD sales. So yeah -- don't know that it's that surprising, if you ask me...
Dr. Casey
2008-11-23, 20:18
Urusei Yatsura averaged in the range of 20-25 percent.
relentlessflame
2008-11-23, 20:22
Urusei Yatsura averaged in the range of 20-25 percent.That's hardly a fair comparison for so many reasons... :heh: (Different timeslot, different era, different competition, different... well, everything. I mean, shows like Doraemon and Sazae-san still pull in ratings like that, but they're about the only shows in that sort of bracket. Most anime that get sequels have way, way, way less.)
Edit: Recent anime viewer ratings post for reference.
Dark Mage
2008-12-15, 06:38
I have some questions about the Hayate the Combat Butler Manga so I was wondering if this thread was for discussing the Anime or the manga. But anyways I just started reading this manga and before I get in too deep I wanted to ask is there any romance at all in this manga? Does Hayate's Feeling for Maria ever understood by Maria? Or does something develop between Nagi and Hayate? Does Hayate still not understand Nagi's feelings for him? I would really like it if MariaxHayate works out/ In the very first chapter did Maria ask Hayate if he had alover or was it just Hayate's imagination?
Pellissier
2008-12-15, 06:47
I have some questions about the Hayate the Combat Butler Manga so I was wondering if this thread was for discussing the Anime or the manga.
This thread is for anime only discussion. The whole subforum is devoted to anime discussion, with just a few exceptions.
If you want to the discuss the manga, then you can use the following threads:
- Hayate the Combat Butler manga (Viz Edition only) (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=52369)
- Hayate no Gotoku manga (raw discussion only) (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=39799)
The difference between them is of course that the former covers the chapters that Viz has officially released for the U.S. market, while the latter is up to the latest chapter released in Japan.
Dr. Casey
2008-12-26, 22:18
Random debate time!
Nagi Sanzenin. Would you guys say that she's unreasonably jealous and possessive, or is Hayate so cruel and insensitive to her feelings that he deserves whatever he gets?
I'd say Hayate is just plain clueless :heh:
so this anime is already at its end? i mean no more extra seasons coming up after 52? and it is already closed?.
relentlessflame
2008-12-29, 15:26
so this anime is already at its end? i mean no more extra seasons coming up after 52? and it is already closed?.No, quite the opposite. The second season will almost definitely begin airing in April 2009. Stay tuned...
oh ic. so there has a second season which is aired this coming april.
Man, I just read the first volume of the manga, it's awesome there's already a huge series for this. Many things about the manga I found very appealing :)
Wargumm1i
2009-01-19, 03:21
No, quite the opposite. The second season will almost definitely begin airing in April 2009. Stay tuned...
I cant wait :) I hope they plan on intorducing Athena Tennos and her household, in season 2 :D
Dr. Casey
2009-02-11, 17:51
April's not so far away. I hope it's closer to the beginning of the month at the end.
Although, by this point it's so close that I'd have figured more news would crop up about the new season by now.
relentlessflame
2009-02-11, 21:00
Although, by this point it's so close that I'd have figured more news would crop up about the new season by now.Well, there is a fair bit of news about it already. The second season is having its animation produced by J.C.Staff and features a new director and all new staff (except the same music composer). You can see the new staff on the ANN listing for the OVA (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=10546) that'll be released on March 6th. With the production changes, I'm wondering whether the new season will still be a year-long production that airs on Saturday mornings, or if it's being moved to a late-night otaku slot (and might go for the more usual 24/26 episode length). I guess we'll see, though.
I'm not sure as to what content the OVA could possibly have. Does sound like I'm on my toes for that one.
relentlessflame
2009-02-11, 21:39
I'm not sure as to what content the OVA could possibly have. Does sound like I'm on my toes for that one.Well, the preview image on the site (http://hayatenogotoku.com/1ki/news/ova.html) prominently features Nagi and Hinagiku at the beach in bathing suits, so I suppose we might expect a bit of fanservice?
It'll ship on DVD and Blu-Ray on day one, so I'm sold regardless... :heh:
Well, the preview image on the site (http://hayatenogotoku.com/1ki/news/ova.html) prominently features Nagi and Hinagiku at the beach in bathing suits, so I suppose we might expect a bit of fanservice?
It'll ship on DVD and Blu-Ray on day one, so I'm sold regardless... :heh:
Ah, so I assume it's gonna be like the Negima!? OVA. They just had to make an anime cliche...
relentlessflame
2009-02-11, 21:43
Ah, so I assume it's gonna be like the Negima!? OVA. They just had to make an anime cliche...LOL - well, as you may know, Hayate no Gotoku is all about both embracing and mocking clichés, so a fanservice OVA to prep the merchandise-buying masses seems somehow à-propos. Though, truthfully, it's just an image, so we don't know for sure what the OVA will contain yet.
Dr. Casey
2009-02-12, 16:15
Well, there is a fair bit of news about it already. The second season is having its animation produced by J.C.Staff and features a new director and all new staff (except the same music composer). You can see the new staff on the ANN listing for the OVA (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=10546) that'll be released on March 6th. With the production changes, I'm wondering whether the new season will still be a year-long production that airs on Saturday mornings, or if it's being moved to a late-night otaku slot (and might go for the more usual 24/26 episode length). I guess we'll see, though.
I sure hope the second season retains the 52 episode format of the original. It would be something of a disappointment for it to be reduced to the standard 24/26 episode length, especially since I don't like how anime series have been shorter in recent years to begin with. The more Hayate no Gotoku the better, I say.
Cinocard
2009-02-12, 16:28
I dare say there's enough material to do another full year run, and may be even better than S1, since there's more plot development in the later part of the manga. That's it, if they can throw in anime original Episodes with quality like in S1 .
If it's just manga material, nah. Most likely a 26-court.
SaintessHeart
2009-02-22, 03:39
I don't think Hayate No Gotoku is going to air with anything less than 50 episodes per season. I was actually quite surprised that it went beyond 26 last season, and it was epic and hilarious.
Izumi is my <3.
It's March 3rd! HAPPY BIRTHDAY HINA!
SaintessHeart
2009-03-11, 07:44
She shares the same birthday as Lockon Stratos from G00. Lovely.
LOL - well, as you may know, Hayate no Gotoku is all about both embracing and mocking clichés, so a fanservice OVA to prep the merchandise-buying masses seems somehow à-propos. Though, truthfully, it's just an image, so we don't know for sure what the OVA will contain yet.
HOPEFULLY some omake.
I think Hayate's "End of the World" arc is probably one of the most powerful arc's in this entire manga. If there was one arc I want a large budget to be spent on, it's this. Do you think it would be better to do this arc as a movie or as part of the regular TV season?
For me, I would love to see this arc done as a movie. This would probably never happen, but if it did, would it profitable to do this as a movie? Do you think a lot of Japanese fans would buy the movie?
xellos2099
2009-04-18, 02:12
"End of the World" arc? Which arc are you talking about? BTW, are wwe allow to talk about the different between the season season and the manga here?
Von Himmel
2009-04-18, 07:20
^
Chapter 172 - 182. . I think ? I forget the exact chapter.
I have no clue where to discuss this. This is one of those anime-manga hybrid questions.
xellos2099
2009-04-20, 18:11
Now I remember what arc you are talking about. That arc is pretty good at showing how evil Hayate parents really are.
I don't know where to put this, but Hinagiku Katsura and Mikoto Misaka (From Index) - both their personalities are very similar. They both are extremely smart (both even wear shorts!). They both also are the most popular characters for their series.
Does anyone know where these characters were inspired from?
I'm also a little curious. What's their popularity like for Males and for Females viewers of the show?
xellos2099
2009-04-27, 01:08
What are some of the manga chapter that people want to get animed in second season? I mean we will sure get the cat arc and Hina birthday arc. What other arc would you want to get animed?
Seitsuki
2009-04-29, 05:10
i'm pretty sure that they'll all get animated. even if it ends up just being a 10 min short or something
RemieGino14
2009-05-22, 20:31
Sorry if I sound like I'm intruding and If I post in the wrong spot, but I just wanted to put my input opinion on the series so far which is...
When the hell are they gonna reveal who Hayate really likes? Theres seems to be too many hints.
- RemieGino14 -
relentlessflame
2009-05-23, 10:51
When the hell are they gonna reveal who Hayate really likes? Theres seems to be too many hints.In the last few episodes of the final season of the anime and/or in the last few chapters of the manga. :heh:
It's a shounen romantic comedy. There's practically a law that dictates this to be the case. :heh:
leoblack9
2009-05-29, 09:18
Who knows if he lieks someone out of the bunch? Maybe he had already liked someone. Too bad I wouldn't read the manga raws section for fearing that I would spoil myself and forever change my future expectations in the series. Oh woe is me for not wanting to know more.
chinaboat
2009-06-14, 01:52
It's a shounen romantic comedy. There's practically a law that dictates this to be the case. :heh:
(Wow, this the first time that I've actually seen somebody else say it's a shounen rom-com.)
You gotta figure Relentlessflame's correct, because no matter who Hayate ends up with from his considerable harem, a sizable chunk of the audience is gonna be p.o'd that it wasn't somebody else and won't stick around to see what happens next. No one wants to take the chance on losing audience numbers and so the manga keeps ratcheting up the sexual tension and, along with the anime which now seems to basically just regurgitate the manga storyline, has settled into a nice little rom-com rut and every time the story starts to sag they'll just trot out a new female. It will go on so long that in the end most people won't really care who ends up with whom.
I'm staying for the occasional flash of visual satire or fairly brilliant humorous commentary HAYATE: ...is there something in particular you want? MARIA: Something I want, you ask? - Let's see... - A new term to replace hikkomori and NEET? which, to me, makes Hayate worth it
I don't know if this has been asked before but I have the impression that A-tan is actually maria.
is this correct?
OceanBlue
2009-06-14, 10:52
I don't know if this has been asked before but I have the impression that A-tan is actually maria.
is this correct?
As far as I've heard [I don't read the raws since, well, I can't], no.
Phantasmagoria
2009-06-14, 18:06
I am pretty sure A-tan isn't Maria?
It's pretty weird for an anime character to dye hair? (A-tan has it golden, and Maria's reddish-brown.)
Anyway I am rooting for Hinagiku and Maria :D
Well, what I enjoy most about Hayate are the meta references.
So on the whole "who does Hayate end up with?" question, I'm more interested in whether Nagi (or another character, but I figure Nagi is most likely to figure it out) comes to realize that she's competing in a harem anime scenario over Hayate, and what genre savvy attempts she will then make to try and exploit the common tropes.
For example, will she try something revolving around her apparent (to her) "First Girl" status? Will she discover that Ayumu is actually the "First Girl" (in the anime)? Will there be an anime vs manga debate?
Will Nagi then ensnare Wataru and his semi-harem into being her guinea pig to test things on? (Poor Wataru- Isumi will probably get a bad impression of him again).
Hmmm... what other self-mocking shenanigans can the show get into?
And all the while Hayate continues being completely oblivious...
chinaboat
2009-06-15, 02:17
Well, what I enjoy most about Hayate are the meta references.
So on the whole "who does Hayate end up with?" question, I'm more interested in whether Nagi (or another character, but I figure Nagi is most likely to figure it out) comes to realize that she's competing in a harem anime scenario over Hayate, and what genre savvy attempts she will then make to try and exploit the common tropes.
Hmmm... what other self-mocking shenanigans can the show get into?
And all the while Hayate continues being completely oblivious...
I would like to see any or all of those ideas but from what I'm understanding if it's not in the manga you probably won't see it. It would be great to see one more OAV's, like in season one, that take advantage of the anime form but I've not seen any references to that happening. - I wonder if sticking to the manga is more of a budgetary consideration than anything else; I would imagine writers who simply edit the manga are less expensive than one's who can come up with solid, original scripts based on the manga.
relentlessflame
2009-06-15, 11:01
I wonder if sticking to the manga is more of a budgetary consideration than anything else; I would imagine writers who simply edit the manga are less expensive than one's who can come up with solid, original scripts based on the manga.Well, I doubt it's to hire cheaper writers -- even adapting an existing script for animation is a lot of work. My guess is that it's to play it a little bit safer in terms of reaching their target audience and making their sales goals. The first season was airing in early-morning TV, and funded by major sponsors (P&G, McDonalds, etc.). The second season is airing in late-night without major advertising support, and so is depending mostly on things like DVD/Blu-Ray sales to pay for the production. Writing original content brings with it a risk that your core target audience won't appreciate the changes. With this season, they appear to be sticking more closely to many manga readers' favourite characters and stories. That sort of "playing it safe" is likely to be rewarded with solid sales.
Basically, when times get tough, double-down on your safer bets to weather the storm. That's basically the overall strategy of the industry these days.
MadModBassist
2009-08-12, 23:43
I recently (within the past few months) finished the first season and moved on to the second season, so I'm all caught up with the series. That said...
How the hell did the writers know my two favorite anime series in descending order in Episode 44?!!? First it was Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, using the Nia Teppelin, then they cut to someone cosplaying as Eruruu form Utawarerumono!! How do they know this stuff?!
Seriously, that's the biggest coincidence I've ever witnessed in my life. I was half-expecting Clannad to make an appearance next.
leoblack9
2009-08-13, 09:16
For example, will she try something revolving around her apparent (to her) "First Girl" status? Will she discover that Ayumu is actually the "First Girl" (in the anime)? Will there be an anime vs manga debate?
Ayumu isn't the "first girl." Someone beat her to it, and it was a real relationship, not one-sided.
Update: I didn't notice the "in anime" part so sorry for that.
Nagi doesn't care whether Ayumu is the first or not, she owns Hayate and thinks that he loves her.
Both Ayumu and Nagi's position are one-sided, same with the other girls. So I've yet to see this as a real competition.
Will Nagi then ensnare Wataru and his semi-harem into being her guinea pig to test things on? (Poor Wataru- Isumi will probably get a bad impression of him again).No, Wataru has his own personal harem, counting in Saki, the nun, and somehow Sakuya seems to fit in there. Isumi is still out of reach for Wataru and I doubt Isumi will notice him until they get older.
And all the while Hayate continues being completely obliviousHe seems to misunderstand anything important but understands anything.. well useless.
I just finished watching the first season and I have to say this really was a fantastic anime. I've never watched an anime as ridiculous as this that has also simultaneously been this funny and cutesy before. Granted there were some episodes I didn't like, but it still was amazingly well executed.
kagetenshi
2009-08-29, 04:39
seriously, the series is amazing, bu they need to add a new spark to it now. if youve read the manga, then youll know wat i mean: right after they get back for a new year, they go hiking and a bear attacks them and furthermore, they cant kick its but in 5 secs
kagetenshi
2009-08-30, 03:07
BTW, im kinda rooting for Hayate to choose Hinagiku. After all, they do like each other. For Wataru, Isumi's definitely not gonna realize his ubsession with her. Sakuya and Wataru seem to make a good pairing.
kagetenshi
2009-08-30, 03:22
Anyways, Im kinda hoping a new characte will show up now. It will make the show more interesting (ifpossible)
1. Needs to be a guy around Hayates age
2. Has to be good looking and is popular with the girls at Hakuo and be good at a sport
3. He has to be in love with Hinagiku and open with his crush
It'll be kinda comical
He'll be the one who always make advances on Hina but gets rejected everytime e.g
While Hayates getting beat up by Nagi, he puts his arm coolly aroung Hina and asks her to dinner, which then she punches him on the side of the face and says something that is a rejection
Also, he can see that Hayate and Hina like each other and tries to beat Haate at everything to win Hinas heart
kagetenshi
2009-09-02, 09:06
lol, well, i've got a lot of time on my hands before school starts
MrTerrorist
2009-09-02, 10:08
@kagetenshi
How about writing fanfic of Hayate & Hina as a couple?
Aren't there millions of them out there already?
Aren't there millions of them out there already?
I don't think there are many fan fictions for HnG. I've yet to find a good Hina x Hayate one.
MrTerrorist
2009-09-04, 04:09
Aren't there millions of them out there already?
No the last time i check at fanfiction.net, there were 7 or 8 HayatexHina fics outta the 60 fics.
kagetenshi
2009-09-05, 19:55
Well, the story kinda makes it so there are a bunch of girls after hayate. Most are probably about nagi or maria
This doesn't speak too highly about the writing skills of Hina fans as I'm sure she has a larger fan-base.
kagetenshi
2009-09-05, 23:48
well, she was first in that whole "most popular character" vote awhile back
Back to the whole fanfiction thing with mrterrorist, i do admit im a god writer, but i get writers block every 2 seconds
MrTerrorist
2009-09-10, 10:13
I don't mind. I was just suggesting.
Jeffry2009
2009-09-22, 07:30
Question guys, why the 2nd season of Hayate No gotoku only runs 25 episodes? Last season it was only 51 episodes long.
It's so sad to me that Hayate 2nd has finally ended last week. :(
relentlessflame
2009-09-26, 01:05
Question guys, why the 2nd season of Hayate No gotoku only runs 25 episodes? Last season it was only 51 episodes long.Well, the simple answer is because the show is being marketed in a different way.
The first season aired on Saturday morning in a kids timeslot, and was sponsored by major companies like McDonald's, Proctor & Gamble, and others. It was also animated by a company that typically works on those sorts of long-running shows. The second season airs past midnight and is being sponsored only by the TV station and anime merchandising companies. It's being animated by a company that specializes in these sorts of late-night shows, and generally only produces works up to 26-episodes at a time. For this new season, their main way of making their money back is through DVD/Blu-Ray and other merchandise sales, so it's too risky to produce 52 episodes at once. But if the show sells well, there's no question that they could come back and do another season in a year or two.
So, anyway, that's the gist of the reason. Different sort of show with a different production structure means a different episode count. Not that it was really all that important, but now you know. :heh:
Strange, wasn't volume 17 (VIZ) supposed to come out this month?
The last volume came out in September and i don't see any mention of volume 17 on the site.
It got delayed. Volume 17 comes out on March 8th.
Thanks, hopefully it's a one time only delay
GlassesLady
2010-12-31, 12:39
Probably. Another manga I was following a couple years ago was delayed during winter but continued as usual afterwards. Apparently this is normal.
I'm slightly worried about its sale numbers, to be honest. It use to come out every 2 months, then every 3, and then every 4. It now seems to be every 6 months, and it's not like we're even close to the Japanese releases to warrant a slowed release.
I'm slightly worried about its sale numbers, to be honest. It use to come out every 2 months, then every 3, and then every 4. It now seems to be every 6 months, and it's not like we're even close to the Japanese releases to warrant a slowed release.
It's not that bad just yet. They did the exact same thing last year--The fourth volume for the year was scheduled for winter and got pushed back several months. The next couple volumes were only 2-3 months apart.
That said, I'm sure it's not the best selling title. A lot of bookstores don't even stock it.
GlassesLady
2010-12-31, 18:36
I just checked this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hayate_the_Combat_Butler_chapters). There's always been a three-month gap between volumes (never two), except for one four-month gap between 13 and 14. That gap included December as well, so apparently releases just slow down around the end of the year.
What's the source for 17's release date, anyway?
What's the source for 17's release date, anyway?
Ah, Amazon. I pretty much always have the next volume pre-ordered if only to get instant notifications whenever the release date changes. It's close enough to the release date now that I'd be surprised if it changed again.
I'd be nice if Viz sped things up a little, but it's really not their style, outside of maybe One Piece and Naruto. Even Bleach is almost two years behind, from what I've heard. (Don't read it, myself.)
I'd be nice if Viz sped things up a little, but it's really not their style, outside of maybe One Piece and Naruto. Even Bleach is almost two years behind, from what I've heard. (Don't read it, myself.)
Better than Case Closed. We're currently on volume 36 (with 37 coming out in 2 weeks). Detective Conan in Japan is on volume 70. That puts us about eight and a half years behind.
MrTerrorist
2011-01-03, 03:58
I'm not sure if this was posted before but here are the actors for the Live action drama of Hayate the Combat Butler.
http://image.udn.com/gallery/stars/show.jsp?pid=36827
If the right girl is supposed to be Nagi, they completely failed at casting, she's way too tall and old for her. If it's supposed to be Hina, it will work (though they failed at the hairdo), but I wonder why they don't show Nagi instead.
Weird.
For whatever reason, the live action adaption made the entire cast adults. I have no idea how that works, honestly. :confused:
Oh, and check this out.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-01-03/editor/next-step-after-hayate-film-being-planned
"Next Step" is annoyingly vague, but it gives me some hope we might still get a third season. I was starting to think the movie was all we'd get, but on second thought, You don't do a theatrical release for a series that isn't doing well.
Tom Bombadil
2011-01-03, 07:29
If the right girl is supposed to be Nagi, they completely failed at casting, she's way too tall and old for her. If it's supposed to be Hina, it will work (though they failed at the hairdo), but I wonder why they don't show Nagi instead.
Weird.
Mentar, the girl on the left is supposed to be Nagi according to this blog (http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!3AecYX6dHx.RGUHw6r8_sQ--/article?mid=15980&prev=-1&next=15978):heh: Apparently, she is a Korean star. The blog also contains a much more artistic photo of her. I can hardly believe they are the same person.
Mentar, the girl on the left is supposed to be Nagi according to this blog (http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!3AecYX6dHx.RGUHw6r8_sQ--/article?mid=15980&prev=-1&next=15978):heh: Apparently, she is a Korean star. The blog also contains a much more artistic photo of her. I can hardly believe they are the same person.
HnG as adults? Hello? What's the whole point?
That, and Hata's ominous "great developments for Nagi" announcement don't exactly fill me with enthusiasm. I hope we won't have another "School Rumble" fiasco - where the author insisted on getting it his way (Tenma forever) and ruined things this way.
HnG as adults? Hello? What's the whole point?
Eh, it's not a choice I would have made, but I can see it. The basic set-up hinges more on Hayate's density then Nagi's age, all things considered. Not to say it doesn't lose anything in the process, because it definitely does. (And seriously, I don't think even Japan could get away with a live action romantic comedy starring an underaged character.)
That, and Hata's ominous "great developments for Nagi" announcement don't exactly fill me with enthusiasm. I hope we won't have another "School Rumble" fiasco - where the author insisted on getting it his way (Tenma forever) and ruined things this way.
Oh come on, there's nothing "ominous" (or unexpected, given recent developments) about announcing that Nagi is in for some major character development over the next year.
I mean, did you expect the editor to announce that Hina was going to become the new heroine of the manga? :p
Eh, it's not a choice I would have made, but I can see it. The basic set-up hinges more on Hayate's density then Nagi's age, all things considered. Not to say it doesn't lose anything in the process, because it definitely does. (And seriously, I don't think even Japan could get away with a live action romantic comedy starring an underaged character.)
If you take away the "Hayate trying to help Nagi grow up" angle, what does remain? A ditzy super-rich Hikikomori without common sense? How do they plan to integrate the other characters if the school clamp is missing? I think that this is going to change the basic setting tremendously.
Oh come on, there's nothing "ominous" (or unexpected, given recent developments) about announcing that Nagi is in for some major character development over the next year.
He had the same ominous announcements in the past, too. For me it seems like he's trying to convince himself (and the readers) that something important is going to happen to make her the prime character again - while she factually isn't. This rather recognizes that he failed to do so in the past. If he ever really tried.
I mean, did you expect the editor to announce that Hina was going to become the new heroine of the manga? :p
Become? Remain ^_^
If you take away the "Hayate trying to help Nagi grow up" angle, what does remain? A ditzy super-rich Hikikomori without common sense? How do they plan to integrate the other characters if the school clamp is missing? I think that this is going to change the basic setting tremendously.
You don't have to be a child to need help growing up. :)
I don't think they even plan to introduce the school angle, honestly, none of the cast announcements have mentioned Hina or any of the other school characters.
Really, I have such low expectations for the drama that I don't particularly care what they do.
(Not going into the other stuff because we're never going to agree there.)
You don't have to be a child to need help growing up. :)
I don't think they even plan to introduce the school angle, honestly, none of the cast announcements have mentioned Hina or any of the other school characters.
Really, I have such low expectations for the drama that I don't particularly care what they do.
Oh, I can't see myself watching this. Live-Action conversions are disasters in 99% of all cases. But what's the point in naming a show "Hayate no Gotoku" when the story is going to be completely different?
(Not going into the other stuff because we're never going to agree there.)
I was just kidding ;)
Happy new year, btw.
HnG as adults? Hello? What's the whole point?
Children can't act worth shit in Japan. Just watch the second Conan drama. The children were only in it for like 5 minutes before they got a temporary antidote and turned back into adults, and they were horrible the entire 5 minutes.
If you take away the "Hayate trying to help Nagi grow up" angle, what does remain? A ditzy super-rich Hikikomori without common sense? How do they plan to integrate the other characters if the school clamp is missing? I think that this is going to change the basic setting tremendously.
College?
Children can't act worth shit in Japan. Just watch the second Conan drama. The children were only in it for like 5 minutes before they got a temporary antidote and turned back into adults, and they were horrible the entire 5 minutes.
That's not entirely true. Gokusen and Hana Yori Dango had many young actors and they did great. Sure they weren't that young but they could easily pas for 14/15. Actually lot's of Jdrama uses young actors that do really well.
Von Himmel
2011-01-13, 20:19
Young actors, but not necessarily that young like Nagi, who is 13(?) :heh: From what I've seen in Jdrama, 'young' actors who is good are usually in high-school :heh:
GlassesLady
2011-01-13, 21:49
Dawson Casting (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DawsonCasting) generally happens because of a lack of young actors for whatever reason. There's an entire list on that page, plus examples, if anyone wants it.
Young actors, but not necessarily that young like Nagi, who is 13(?) :heh: From what I've seen in Jdrama, 'young' actors who is good are usually in high-school :heh:
But isn't Nagi in Higschool ;)
I'm sure they could easily find a young actress/singer who could easily pass for a 13 year old Ojou-sama.
Although i'm not sure if there are many Taiwanese child actors since i haven't seen that much Taiwanese drama.
Really bad news. Volume 18 of Hayate the Combat Butler will be sold in September so that means there will be only 2 volumes of Hayate the Combat Butler from this year on.
Can't say i'm really happy about this
Really bad news. Volume 18 of Hayate the Combat Butler will be sold in September so that means there will be only 2 volumes of Hayate the Combat Butler from this year on.
Can't say i'm really happy about this
Yeah, I noticed that, pretty depressing. I just hope they don't drop the series altogether.
Seriously, at two volumes a year, it would take 5 years just to catch up to where Japan is now. Nothing I can do though, except keep buying them and hope the series becomes popular enough to merit a speed up at some point. :upset:
GlassesLady
2011-02-09, 23:06
Okay, now that's just sad.
I wonder what inspired this reduced speed of release. Is anything else from Viz slowing down?
Tom Bombadil
2011-02-27, 21:55
Live action poster.
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=1012683719
This Maria is not bad.
Sean Gaffney
2011-02-28, 04:28
Okay, now that's just sad.
I wonder what inspired this reduced speed of release. Is anything else from Viz slowing down?
Many things from Viz are slowing down, all for the same reason: low sales. Hayate's never hit the NYT lists, after all. Be thankful you aren't an Excel Saga fan, as that's down to once a year. I do agree the only way to fix this is to buy the volumes.
MrTerrorist
2011-06-02, 12:29
Promo for the Taiwanese Live Action adaptation of Hayate The Combat Butler
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Promo for the Taiwanese Live Action adaptation of Hayate The Combat Butler
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after seeing that trailer 5 things to say on it
1.the characters so look in their 20s & not like 16-17yrs.
2.oh please let it full based or facepalm on it http://www.ghosttheory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/facepalm.jpg
3.how long it going to be?
4.please let japanese do their live action of anime (besides we seen how bad hollywood live action anime)
5.if this happen to be a hit then i going WHY?!
hinakatbklyn
2011-06-03, 18:19
1.the characters so look in their 20s & not like 16-17yrs.
5.if this happen to be a hit then i going WHY?!
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-06-02/live-action-hayate-vitaminx-anime-promos-streamed
Same trailer but with more details.
(1) Unless the actors say otherwise, they are in their 20's.
(5) It would be interesting if it became popular. It's a wait and see approach for me.
symphonious7
2012-02-08, 01:28
after seeing that trailer 5 things to say on it
1.the characters so look in their 20s & not like 16-17yrs.
2.oh please let it full based or facepalm on it http://www.ghosttheory.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/facepalm.jpg
3.how long it going to be?
4.please let japanese do their live action of anime (besides we seen how bad hollywood live action anime)
5.if this happen to be a hit then i going WHY?!
This just has no appeal to me, if they make the Tiger a realistic tiger he's not going to be very funny, if they make him cartoony he won't fit the vibe of the series. One of the best parts of that anime is the superhuman feats that Hayate Performs, I doubt they'll be able to pull that off with live actors, I just can't imagine it being anywhere near as good as the anime. But that's just one man's opinion.
Xellos-_^
2012-02-09, 01:29
This just has no appeal to me, if they make the Tiger a realistic tiger he's not going to be very funny, if they make him cartoony he won't fit the vibe of the series. One of the best parts of that anime is the superhuman feats that Hayate Performs, I doubt they'll be able to pull that off with live actors, I just can't imagine it being anywhere near as good as the anime. But that's just one man's opinion.
that would actually be the easiest part
The mental side-comments are the most difficult to get right in live-action, I would think.
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