The Licensing of Haruhi Suzumiya [Archive]

xris

2006-12-29, 18:05

The licensing of Haruhi Suzumiya?

Check out this (http://www.animeondvd.com/) and this (http://asosbrigade.com/).
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Vexx

2006-12-29, 18:34

I hope everyone got their bytes and that the licensed releases aren't too long away (perhaps this summer?). Definitely going into my 2007 anime budget.

edit: Bleh.. just saw the 'dubbing' thread... moving my comments over there....

GyroidFanatic

2006-12-29, 18:46

With this new thread, I'd like to bring attention back to the revised copyright info:

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
Released by Kadokawa Pictures USA, Inc.
Distributed and package design by Bandai Entertainment, Inc.

English Adaptation by ____________________
Co-Produced by __________________ in association with ________________

©2006 Nagaru Tanigawa / Noizi Ito / member of SOS
Just who are our three blanks?

EDIT: And I have to say they did a good job with subbing that promo video XD

darkchibi07

2006-12-29, 19:12

It's AD-LIBS, people! Fill in the proper nouns! :D

Though given that the voice samples, it's more likely it'll be from a LA studio.

IchiKyo

2006-12-29, 19:14

Since i have to wait for French License Now...
Good luck for the Next...

I wonder know if they will doing Same DVD like Japanese... Normal and Limited Edition
It will be good if they released OST part on Limited Edition

aegismode

2006-12-30, 01:16

My question is, since KyoAni has said on the 15th (http://www.kyotoanimation.co.jp/haruhi/diary/index.html)that the ED TV-sized Special has been completed, will that full-dancing version of Hare Hare Yukai be included in the US DVD release? Maybe as a special DVD in the first DVD art box set?

For those who didn't know, the 3-plus-minutes long version of the Hare Hare Yukai Dance will soon be released by KyoAni and will probably be part of the last R2 DVD. You can see the official sketches here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZ5XqxTLHM).

GyroidFanatic

2006-12-30, 01:49

I would have to rate the chances of us getting as "pretty good". Looking at FMP:SR, Kadokawa USA seems to like giving out DVD extras.

aegismode

2006-12-30, 03:56

I guess something's gonna give after New Year's.... oh boy I hope it's the translated novel...

GyroidFanatic

2006-12-30, 04:35

You missed a few:

Vexx

2006-12-30, 05:16

Those little transmissions are starting to get a bit silly.. but ah well... as long as they produce the things :)

aegismode

2006-12-30, 06:50

You missed a few:

Hmm, strange... maybe they changed it again already. oh well.

Deathkillz

2006-12-30, 07:09

Those little transmissions are starting to get a bit silly.. but ah well... as long as they produce the things :)
lol...gogo subliminal messages aimed at brainwashing @_@ *kneel before haruhi!*

Kieli

2006-12-30, 12:14

I'm not sure if this is the place to put this info but, oh well....apparently Bandai has created a MySpace page to celebrate the Haruhi licensing http://asosbrigade.com/ and looking to promote the DVD release through it. Might be worth a look for the rest of the Haruhi fans. If this has been posted elsewhere, then my sincere apologies.

aegismode

2006-12-31, 03:28

I'm not sure if this is the place to put this info but, oh well....apparently Bandai has created a MySpace page to celebrate the Haruhi licensing http://asosbrigade.com/ and looking to promote the DVD release through it. Might be worth a look for the rest of the Haruhi fans. If this has been posted elsewhere, then my sincere apologies.

You mean this page (http://www.myspace.com/asosbrigade)? Don't take this the wrong way but that myspace page was probably the first thing everyone clicked on as soon as the page was put up past midnight of 12/22. Unless you're talking about another myspace page of course. I even forced myself to make a myspace account for Kyon's sake.

Kensuke

2006-12-31, 05:27

Uh oh...

xris

2006-12-31, 12:59

A reminder :) There is a separate thread for the English Voice Actor discussion, it can be found here

The Dubbing of Haruhi Suzumiya (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=40924)

The recent posts from this thread have now been moved to the above thread. While it's true that the dubbing is concerned with the licensing process, there is a separate thread for such discussion. Please keep this thread more focussed on the licensing aspects.

darkchibi07

2006-12-31, 16:21

It's AD-LIBS, people! Fill in the proper nouns! :D

Though given that the voice samples, it's more likely it'll be from a LA studio.

And someone has been reading my posts! :heh:

English Adaptation by ___Proper Noun___
Co-Produced by ___Proper Noun___ in association with ___Proper Noun___

GyroidFanatic

2006-12-31, 22:03

As things have been set into motion, I've decided to post a revised list of messages we've seen:

 - Notes hidden in comment tags in the source code
Italics - notes
no ; non-itallic - comments posted on main site, often replacing the main page entirely

December 18th - 6:21AM

First link to www.asosbrigade.com (http://www.asosbrigade.com) (time comes from the start of Fencedude's topic on AnimeonDVD's boards)



December 19th - ?



DOCTYPE removed

December 20th - after 3PM

counter exploit discovered

December 20th - 9:00PM





December 21st - 9:00PM (midnight EST)


("stimuli" changed to "data" within 15 minutes)
on AnimeonDVD:
December 21st 9:18PM

December 21st - 10:00PM



December 21st - 11:00PM







December 21st - 11:30PM




December 22nd - Midnight

YUKI.N> Translation device activated. Can you see this?
YUKI.N> Activating Gateway, please stand by. Timezone Convergence confirmed

ASOS Brigade officially opened; RAW video added; MySpace page linked to

December 22nd - before 3AM



December 22nd - before 8AM



December 22nd - before 9PM






December 24th - before 8AM





December 24th - 9PM





December 25th - Midnight

Christmas Protocol Initiated, inserting into data stream.
YUKI.N> Unable to counteract, backing up now.
YUKI.N> Restoring to last save point, data corruption detected.

Site restarted; sub/dub poll added; Mikuru audition poll added

December 25th - Noon








December 26th - Midnight

"Happy Boxing Day" message replaces "Merry Christmas"

December 26th - 2:55PM

Short post about Boxing Day appears on the main page






December 27th - Midnight?

"Happy Boxing Day" changed to "Happy Holidays"








December 27th - 3PM

The following was added to the copyright information:
English Adaptation by ____________________
Co-Produced by __________________ in association with ________________

Source code comments removed

December 28th - 3:40AM









Subbed video added; Yuki auditions added

December 29th - Midnight








December 29th - before 10PM

Koizumi auditions added; Source code comments removed

December 30th - Midnight
















December 31st - Midnight

Secondary voice protocol initiated, injecting data into network stream. Please stand by.

Kyon's auditions added; All the source code comments above "" removed (the rest of the source code comments removed within minutes)

December 31st - after 1AM












"________________"s in copyright information replaced by "___Proper Noun___", a la Mad Libs

December 31st - 6PM

It happens tonight
An era ends yet begins
Gateway closes now





Entire site taken down, other than new main page

Tokkan

2006-12-31, 22:12

That last source code alteration is too broken to be directly translated, but from what I can tell, they're thanking us for our input on the character voice polls and that it has been taken into consideration. It's just that the message is too garbled and corrupt.

CarpeDiem

2006-12-31, 22:31

That last source code alteration is too broken to be directly translated, but from what I can tell, they're thanking us for our input on the character voice polls and that it has been taken into consideration. It's just that the message is too garbled and corrupt.

I agree. Though, I tried to make sense out of it. Here's what I came up with:

Original: 

Modified: 有難う、楽しかった。又会えてよかった。左様なら。

CarpeDiem's subpar translation: Thank you, it was fun. I'm glad we were able to meet again. Goodbye.

Tokkan

2006-12-31, 22:37

Ah, I see. Thank you. I was assuming they left out characters, no put in space and meaningless junk.

There's now a count down on the website.

GyroidFanatic

2006-12-31, 23:09

And now even that's gone, replaced by...

(this is the part where you go and look)

EDIT: foiled by not looking to see if a new page has appeared :(

Tokkan

2007-01-01, 00:02

????.?> Attempting manual repair, please stand by.

I wonder what this means?

GyroidFanatic

2007-01-01, 00:10

Nagato(?) is trying to bring the site back up

Dagger

2007-01-01, 00:36

Ooh, a countdown clock! Exciting. I guess this means I'll be staying up after all... :p

Tokkan

2007-01-01, 01:16

????.?> Unable to repair, restoring from backup.

Here's another message. Damn they're being overly dramatic with this.

Edit:

????.?> Setting has been reset to last week. Can only maintain for 24 hours. You must find her within that timeframe.

Hear that, it's going to reset from last week, when we had no voice polls. It also says we must find "her".

Dagger

2007-01-01, 01:35

????.?> Setting has been reset to last week. Can only maintain for 24 hours. You must find her within that timeframe.

Whoops, fixed my quote tags. ><

Tokkan

2007-01-01, 01:42

... That's odd, your post only appeared after I corrected my typos in my edit.

darkchibi07

2007-01-01, 02:09

Now it says....

????.?> It will reappear tommorow normally if all goes well. Do not fail.

About 50 min. left! :D

aegismode

2007-01-01, 02:36

System files recovered, rebooting...

About 23 min. left.

Hidden tags remain the same.

Skane

2007-01-01, 02:43

Go figure... the countdown timer does not work in my FireFox 2 browser, and I was wondering what the heck everybody was talking about. It works in IE 7 though.

Narf.

darkchibi07

2007-01-01, 02:52

Are you sure? I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.1, and it's working fine.

About 5 min. left!

ICTE OS 1.5 loading

aegismode

2007-01-01, 02:54

ICTE OS 1.5 loading

About 5 mins. left.

ICTE? Integrated Computer Thought Entity OS?

Hidden tags unchanged.

aegismode

2007-01-01, 02:56

You have 24 hours

About 3 min left.

Hiddent tags unchanged.

This must be about the Haruhi VA vote.

aegismode

2007-01-01, 03:00

http://asosbrigade.com/auditions/ah.php

Haruhi VA vote.

Is that the new logo? Hmm... I thought It would be a SOS-Dan variant... I would have said that it sucks but I fear for my life. So I'm just gonna say "meh".

EDIT: I finally READ Kyon's blurb and this is the Series logo, not ASOS-dan logo... so I'm taking the 'meh' back. Our God won't fail us.

Skane

2007-01-01, 03:10

EDIT] Whoops, wrong thread.

aegismode

2007-01-01, 03:23

The hit counter resetted.

End credit change:

English Adaptati

©2006-2007 Nagaru Tanigawa / Noizi Ito / member of SOS

"Proper Noun" section gone.

I guess they were working too fast to care about spelling. I think it'll be fixed within minutes. No hidden tags yet.

EDIT: hit counter now back to normal.

EDIT2: the link to Haruhi's VA Vote is now hidden extremely well. You really have to move your mouse over it or view the source code to see it. The hyperlink is now the word "by" of the first paragraph. As if any hardcore fan would miss it. The hidden tags are still missing and the "Adaptati" misspelling remains.

Shii

2007-01-01, 17:54

What's up with the weird "of" in the logo? The entire word "of" should be in a black spinny thing, or none of it. The の inside the "of" is a visual non sequitur.

dkellis

2007-01-01, 20:05

Personally I'm rather more irritated with the first choice of the poll on the main page:

"Please make special ones with good thing inside."

I think there's a missing plural somewhere in there.

Vexx

2007-01-01, 20:16

I suspect its a lame attempt at "engrish" but meh...

aegismode

2007-01-01, 21:01

Given the quality of English spoken/written by the supposed SOS-dan members I suspect that the ASOS marketing people are actually avoiding such an obvious stereotype (engrish). I think the sentence was supposed to sound strange or mechanical (ala Yuki), instead the result of bad grammar. I can't imagine Yuki making a grammar mistake anyway. This sentence is only missing a plural, a simple mistake that any native English speaker would make. I think this is just a bad editing job; the front page still says "English Adaptati".

Speaking of which, I actually looked up the latin singular for "Adaptati", "Adaptatus", and see if there are special meaning. It still meant adaptation even in Latin. I can also see that the word is used in Italian and Romanian. Some people use it in English as the plural for Adaptation. So what if it's not a spelling error but a hint? English AdaptationS? Does that mean perhaps an English novel release? English AdaptationS of Anime AND light novel? Am I reading too much into a typo?

aegismode

2007-01-01, 21:22

It's been a day. Where are my hidden comment tags???

darkchibi07

2007-01-01, 23:45

-- She has detected us --

-- Gateway is being purged --

-- She interferes --

-- No, it is as it must --

-- One of us cannot return --

-- I will remain for the Other --

-- There is no time left --

I guess that's referring to the time left for Haruhi's poll.

dkellis

2007-01-02, 00:31

This is all making it seem so dramatic.

Revenge Of The Computer Society President!

GyroidFanatic

2007-01-02, 00:48

Something I posted on AnimeonDVD (before the most recent comment):

Hmm... listen to this theory of mine for a second and tell me how it sounds.

The group that is leaving/left us the messages is the dubbing studio. This comes from the fact that their research mostly aligns with the polls. For example, they said "We are still missing the primary variables" before they did the polls for Kyon and Haruhi. (And an unrelated theory: the polls could be more to see what our response and our comments to the auditions are, more than the results. We know someone is looking through these forums...)

"The Other" refers to the other company listed after the "in association with" bit in the copyright. "They may discover the Other" was posted about a day before the revised copyright information (with the blanks) was added. "What of the Other? / They will be with us shortly" refers to the fact that the two companies will start working together soon.

And finally, perhaps the female they mention ("What has she done? / She is dangerous" and "It is for her sake") isn't Haruhi, but the person in charge of making the dub, or at least someone involved in the ASOS Brigade website/MySpace.

aegismode

2007-01-02, 04:05

Sonds like Yuki and Kyon talking to himself.

The "English Adaptati" line is gone. Perhaps it is just a typo.

Tokkan

2007-01-03, 22:35

New source messages.




They've made it harder on us, I'm having much trouble trying to interpret this.

CrowKenobi

2007-01-03, 23:01

New source messages.


They've made it harder on us, I'm having much trouble trying to interpret this.Did you try a different character encode? I got (using Japanese (EUC-JC)):


Which roughly translates to:
"Moreover, it became one person."
"It is lonely."

:cool:

aegismode

2007-01-03, 23:40

Did you try a different character encode? I got (using Japanese (EUC-JC)):

Which roughly translates to:
"Moreover, it became one person."
"It is lonely."

:cool:

I would say it's more "Again, (it) became one person."

Sounds a bit like Yuki talking.

darkchibi07

2007-01-03, 23:53

Nonetheless, it sounds kind of creepy. I wonder what they're planning.

GyroidFanatic

2007-01-04, 00:24

It's talking about the one person of the group who decided to stay behind.

LCeh

2007-01-04, 12:14

Here's a piece from John from AnimeNation:

Question
Now that it's official that The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya will be coming to the States in early 2007, are there any fears that the series won't live up to the hype?

Answer
I think that there shouldn't be any fears over Suzumiya Haruhi (the Japanese family name first pronunciation is incontrovertibly ingrained in my subconscious) not living up to expectations in America because there shouldn't be inflated expectations for the series' American success. Time may prove me incorrect, but I believe that the Suzumiya Haruhi anime does not have the same potential for success in America that it has had in Japan. Suzumiya Haruhi has been such a staggering success in Japan, and its such a juggernaut in the international fan community that I think that many American fans may have unrealistic expectations for the show's potential in America. The Suzumiya Haruhi anime has always been a show intended for a hardcore "otaku" audience, and that market is relatively small in America.

Reportedly at least the first two Japanese Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi DVDs have sold 100,000 copies each. In practical terms, no single anime DVD sells that many copies in America. American releases such as The Animatrix and Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children have tallied those sort of sales figures, but those two titles have massive American cross-market potential which Suzumiya Haruhi does not have. The Suzumiya Haruhi series is not suitable for American television broadcast because it's neither slapstick comedy or action/adventure. The lack of television exposure in America will drastically limit its American market potential. The Suzumiya Haruhi anime series is fundamentally a lighthearted character relationship drama. The most successful anime titles in America have never fallen into that genre category. Major hit American anime titles including Cowboy Bebop, Inuyasha, Dragonball Z, Yu Yu Hakusho, Full Metal Alchemist, Rurouni Kenshin, Naruto, and Gundam Wing have virtually nothing in common with Suzumiya Haruhi, meaning that the consumers who have made shows like Cowboy Bebop and Inuyasha so successful in America will not support Suzumiya Haruhi. In fact, much of the appeal of the Suzumiya Haruhi anime lies in its parodies of anime stereotypes and conventions. That subtle humor is only effective for hardcore otaku that recognize the conventions being skewered, and recognize the ways in which the Suzumiya Haruhi anime does the unexpected. Casual, mainstream, and novice anime watchers are unlikely to "get" jokes like a realistic portrayal of a typical Japanese schoolboy surrounded by aliens, girls in cosplay, an outrageously assertive and self-confident Japanese schoolgirl, and conventional plots like a murder mystery and epic space battle.

There's certainly enough anticipation and interest in the Suzumiya Haruhi franchise to make the American release of the anime successful. But I don't think that the series has the components necessary to become a breakthrough mainstream hit in America. I suggest that American fans anticipating Suzumiya Haruhi becoming a high water mark for American anime distribution rethink their estimation. The show may be the biggest hit of a generation in Japan, but the show doesn't have the characteristics necessary to make it a smash success in America. Suzumiya Haruhi will undoubtedly be big in America's fan community, but it won't reach a large audience outside of the hardcore fan community. In other words, The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi has a ceiling on its American potential for success. The show will probably match the success of similar school comedies and light dramas in America like Azumanga Daioh and Love Hina, but it won't become another Cowboy Bebop or Fullmetal Alchemist scale breakout mainstream success.

I think he made some good points, but I still think Haruhi can break into the main stream in US. I think it has the drawing power to get a lot of people interested, because it has many different appeals that can reach many different people. Simply calling it a "highschool comedy" is a little too generic for SHnY. In fact, I find it hard to put the show in a genre, since it has a little bit of everything, and because of that, I think it can be successful too in America.

relentlessflame

2007-01-04, 14:08

I think he made some good points, but I still think Haruhi can break into the main stream in US. I think it has the drawing power to get a lot of people interested, because it has many different appeals that can reach many different people. Simply calling it a "highschool comedy" is a little too generic for SHnY. In fact, I find it hard to put the show in a genre, since it has a little bit of everything, and because of that, I think it can be successful too in America.Well, I think there's a huge difference between appealing to many anime fans, and appealing to the mainstream. Having "something for everyone" only works if people are willing to give it a chance. With no TV airing, why would the Cartoon Network crowd just go to the store and buy it (and it over all the other choices on the shelf)? It doesn't promise great action, it doesn't promise cool heroes and villains, it doesn't promise violence or blood -- it's just a "big bundle of anime goodness", which means precisely nothing if you're not already an anime fan (and by that I mean more than what airs on Adult Swim). In this case, I think John's exactly right; this has all the makings of a "cult classic" in the U.S. By in large, the people salivating over Naruto, Bleach, and Full Metal Alchemist (and from whom that defines all of what "anime" is) aren't going to rush to the stores to pick it up, and that's what's meant by mainstream success in the U.S.

FatPianoBoy

2007-01-04, 16:35

this has all the makings of a "cult classic" in the U.S. By in large, the people salivating over Naruto, Bleach, and Full Metal Alchemist (and from whom that defines all of what "anime" is) aren't going to rush to the stores to pick it up, and that's what's meant by mainstream success in the U.S.

Am I the only one who feels good about this?
I'm glad I won't have to deal with 14-year-old emo kids wearing SOS団 t-shirts and fawning over how hot Itsuki and Kyon would be if only they'd just stop being straight. This kind of stuff won't kill a show for me, but it will make me hesitant to evangelize it or even admit that I like it.

Dagger

2007-01-04, 23:37

January 4, 2007 1936 PST
Currently compiling list of Japanese credits. ASOS Brigade Episode 01 entering post. Various versions of Episode 00 available here. Help spread the video and earn money for it, and other videos, as explained here.

And:

darkchibi07

2007-01-04, 23:57

Let me guess! They'll release episode 1 at 12 AM Pacific, right? I don't I can stay up that late anymore. :heh:

CrowKenobi

2007-01-05, 01:40

If you've checked Kyon's myspace page lately, you'll find that Tsuruya-san has found it and has made herself known there! :D

The link: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=145105412

This is from her general interests box: Mikuru-chan, smoked cheese(:heh:), anime, cosplay, nyoro~n!

:cool:

Cloud05

2007-01-05, 21:22

If you've checked Kyon's myspace page lately, you'll find that Tsuruya-san has found it and has made herself known there! :D

The link: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=145105412

This is from her general interests box: Mikuru-chan, smoked cheese(:heh:), anime, cosplay, nyoro~n!

:cool:

She's Bi? :twitch:

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-01-06, 02:51

If you've checked Kyon's myspace page lately, you'll find that Tsuruya-san has found it and has made herself known there! :D

The link: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=145105412

This is from her general interests box: Mikuru-chan, smoked cheese(:heh:), anime, cosplay, nyoro~n!

:cool:

makes me wonder if this whole SOS thing coming to America is becoming a bit out of hand with these myspace accounts being made based off the characters:heh:

Vexx

2007-01-06, 04:03

I'm probably going to sound a bit exclusive cultish elitist... but I'd really can't see it "breaking into the mainstream" here. I'd like it to do really well and sell a lot of copies... but frankly, I see it mostly doing well in the demographic that already follows anime. It *might* lure in a few science fiction fans who don't normally watch anime.
I mean sheesh - "mainstream" is all those morons hanging on every word in a feud that two idiots with more money than brains are conducting. "mainstream" is getting all giddy for the next SurvivorIdolCookoffTradingNanny ...

The main reason: too difficult for marketeers to cope with. It really can't be reduced to a soundbite - too many facets. There is a small market for unusual films in the theater (IluvHuckabees for example) but they rely mostly on word-of-mouth... and they're films, not a series.

I'm just going to be happy that I get a DVD set out of the release.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-01-06, 04:55

makes me wonder if this whole SOS thing coming to America is becoming a bit out of hand with these myspace accounts being made based off the characters:heh:

Everything about the series has been out of hand for a long time. Though it will probably never dethrone the Naruto Brigade of rampaging Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa????!!! Then again Myspace is not exactly a good example of the real world at all. I mostly attribute myself to people who are emitting a desperate cry for help and wish they had another life, possibly there favourite anime or game characters life. You know like all those Sephiroth avatar and sig users. You know when you look at things it could be a bit worse I guess.

Still if there's one lasting problem I think the series has left us with it's this notion that the Major cast of the series, Sugita Tomokazu, Aya Hirano, Gotou Yukou are somehow infallible acting gods who can do no wrong and are perfect in every single role they do. You know they all worked together in this show and played off each other, but seperately, Sugita Tomakazu kind of sounds arrogant at inappropriate times, Aya Hirano is a bit of a ditz who can't really stay in a serious role for very long without slipping into her real voice after a while, and Gotou Yukou is well...... I don't really know much about her other than she basically works the moe in like every role and is more typecast than Aya Hirano will probably ever be. All these guys simply do not have the experience yet to be called true heavyweights in the voice acting industry, they have a lot of work to go.

By far I think the person with the most potential for improvement is Sugita Tomakazu. He has seen a lot of work recently and has been standing out quite a bit amongst his peers from Haruhi and I like his voice when he is just talking normally. If he can learn to emote without sounding like he's having a nervous breakdown I think he could be one of my favourites. Aya Hirano may improve if given the chance to do more serious roles as well, experience pays off after a while and if she can avoid slipping too often she may make it into another starring role. Gotou Yukou is a pass though probably.

With that being said about voice acting I can't wait to see all the people complaining about the North American cast, because the belief that the original cast was somehow the only group that can pull it off pervades like I've said.

Vexx

2007-01-06, 05:39

Actually... I've never seen a dub that came close to the original VA work, be it Japanese, German, Russian, French, Chinese.. whatever (live action or animated). It has more to do with cultural texture than skill --- though in the case of anime, the english dubs of japanese anime suffer from the problem that while the japanese industry carefully cultivates voices (hell, they even have colleges to churn out hopefuls), the american companies use a very small talent pool that basically consists of people they've worked with before who meet the comparatively meager budget restrictions. With the exception of a few productions, I find the dubs poorly cast and poorly acted... really badly acted in some cases.

On the other hand... its gotten better in the last year or two. I've actually complimented a few distributors of actually sounding like they took more than 30 minutes to cast the parts and those people actually sounded like they had studied the characters a bit. Disney has actually pushed the quality bar up because they've always been careful with their internationalization in the outbound direction and they've done much the same with their imports (like Totoro, etc).

Yeah, its a harsh assessment, but don't think because people are unsatisfied with the Haruhi dub that its somehow special or unique to that series.

As for the "viral market campaign" .. frankly I find it rather annoying and ... well, stupid. They're having to be so oblique with these "hints" that the dialog often sounds ... well... lame compared to the source material. Like a bunch of kids trying to sound cool and failing miserably.

(wow, I'm being curmudgeonly tonight...)

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-01-06, 05:40

Everything about the series has been out of hand for a long time. Though it will probably never dethrone the Naruto Brigade of rampaging Whaaaaaaaaaaaaa????!!! Then again Myspace is not exactly a good example of the real world at all. I mostly attribute myself to people who are emitting a desperate cry for help and wish they had another life, possibly there favourite anime or game characters life. You know like all those Sephiroth avatar and sig users. You know when you look at things it could be a bit worse I guess.

Still if there's one lasting problem I think the series has left us with it's this notion that the Major cast of the series, Sugita Tomokazu, Aya Hirano, Gotou Yukou are somehow infallible acting gods who can do no wrong and are perfect in every single role they do. You know they all worked together in this show and played off each other, but seperately, Sugita Tomakazu kind of sounds arrogant at inappropriate times, Aya Hirano is a bit of a ditz who can't really stay in a serious role for very long without slipping into her real voice after a while, and Gotou Yukou is well...... I don't really know much about her other than she basically works the moe in like every role and is more typecast than Aya Hirano will probably ever be. All these guys simply do not have the experience yet to be called true heavyweights in the voice acting industry, they have a lot of work to go.

By far I think the person with the most potential for improvement is Sugita Tomakazu. He has seen a lot of work recently and has been standing out quite a bit amongst his peers from Haruhi and I like his voice when he is just talking normally. If he can learn to emote without sounding like he's having a nervous breakdown I think he could be one of my favourites. Aya Hirano may improve if given the chance to do more serious roles as well, experience pays off after a while and if she can avoid slipping too often she may make it into another starring role. Gotou Yukou is a pass though probably.

With that being said about voice acting I can't wait to see all the people complaining about the North American cast, because the belief that the original cast was somehow the only group that can pull it off pervades like I've said.

yea i can also see your point about the main japanese cast for Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu
there still can be room for improvement especially with all the rumors about the second season of happening

but as for the japanese voice cast
i am even more anxious to hear the American voice cast for this show also!!
but it seems that some people may have doubts that there will be a good english dub cast for this show!!
but from the VA polls at the asosbrigade website
seems like theres not much to worry about since they wanted feedback from the fans of this show about the sample VA we heard from the past week:D

Vexx

2007-01-06, 05:53

I wasn't terribly impressed with most of the candidates (there were a couple that sounded like they had thought about the role). But then... they were given some pretty lame dialog to test read in some cases (actually Mikuru's test-read material was an awful choice).

It would have been more courteous to the candidates to at least give them 2 or 3 pieces to read each, so you could get some feel of their acting range.

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-01-06, 06:04

I wasn't terribly impressed with most of the candidates (there were a couple that sounded like they had thought about the role). But then... they were given some pretty lame dialog to test read in some cases (actually Mikuru's test-read material was an awful choice).

It would have been more courteous to the candidates to at least give them 2 or 3 pieces to read each, so you could get some feel of their acting range.

yea true they could have gave them more lines to read from the show
but i found Mikuru"s VA candidates a bit wierd:heh: maybe due to the fact that it was almost moans all the time:heh:

but then again i would say that the polls were a good experience for us fans
and it gave us a certain outlook on how they would try to copy or imagine how the voices would fit with the character

my biggest problem with this whole VA poll thing was when it came down to Kyon"s American VA
it was a hard choice none of them sounded like him
so i just went with the most popular one that everyone kept on voting for and went with it ( i forgot what candidate number it was)

as for Haruhi making it "big" in America like Inuyasha and Fullmetal Alchemist
i dont think it can do that
the release of this show will be big but not that big
it will only remain popular to fans like us who have already seen this show through fansubs
unless cartoon network or adult swim got the guts to televise Haruhi
then i could possibly see it making it "BIG" but other than that
i think it wont happen
i just cant see Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu being televised in adult swim or even worse in toonami
hhahahahhaha thinking about that makes me laugh somehow
(all those little kids would get the wrong idea about high school):heh:

dodgethis_sg

2007-01-06, 06:10

http://www.myspace.com/smokedcheese

And she's bi, apparently.

Nightengale

2007-01-06, 06:14

I miss the flexibility of ancient dubs like Speed Racer/Mach Go Go Go. They weren't exactly 100% true to their original source materials and some form of personal input can be seen in the respective characters, but they were able to somehow create a respective distinction of the characters, making them sound themself while somehow creating a parallel closeness to the original Japanese seiyuu even if not in sound exactness but in spirit.

Suzumiya Haruhi is the kind of series that can actually work well with that kind of change. But I highly doubt such actions will be taken, really. I don't really care so much about how close the character's voice are to the original, but capturing the essence and spirit are important.

Setsuna Asuka

2007-01-06, 07:32

They'll end up upsetting someone in the end but what can you do<_<

As for the dubbing of the show, I'm not too worried sine it looks like they want it to succed in the US.

Ezekiel Rage

2007-01-06, 11:33

Ok, I HAD to log in to say this...I usually don't post unless it's important...I lurk alot :3 Anyway, Tsuruya's Myspace is CREATED BY A FAN. Someone who's just trying to get in on the fun...but they're leading people to believe that her profile is also by the Bandai people...it's not. The only official Myspace is Kyon's.

I'd also like to point out how many people are making believe it's real...well as someone posted earlier...it's like they're crying out for a more interesting life, such as those of the SOS-dan.,..I'm one of those peoplke :3 There's no harm in it...just get's me depressed once in a while because I realize how much reality SUCKS :(

Kaioshin Sama

2007-01-06, 14:21

Here's a piece from John from AnimeNation:

I think he made some good points, but I still think Haruhi can break into the main stream in US. I think it has the drawing power to get a lot of people interested, because it has many different appeals that can reach many different people. Simply calling it a "highschool comedy" is a little too generic for SHnY. In fact, I find it hard to put the show in a genre, since it has a little bit of everything, and because of that, I think it can be successful too in America.

Your also expecting that the American market would be at all impressed that it has different appeals or varying genres. It's like I said a long time ago, that it will not be put on Adult Swim, because it does not fit the criteria of shows that are usually on there. There are rare exceptions, but its not terribly likely as there is simply not enough action in the series that I think the executives could be convinced to take a risk. I know its nice to dream and believe that a lot of people will be interested, but most likely mainstream America will either miss the point of the show entirely or simply not care. Not everybody is willing or even capable to look deeper and peer into the layers beneath the surface of a show and see past the dominant genre it falls into, nor are they likely to not judge a show immediately by the cover of a DVD and what it says on the back. You may just have too much faith in the average human being, and you know that's kind of a nice thing to have, wish I still did.

Setsuna Asuka

2007-01-07, 02:22

Another Source Code:

CrowKenobi

2007-01-07, 02:33

Your also expecting that the American market would be at all impressed that it has different appeals or varying genres. It's like I said a long time ago, that it will not be put on Adult Swim, because it does not fit the criteria of shows that are usually on there. There are rare exceptions, but its not terribly likely as there is simply not enough action in the series that I think the executives could be convinced to take a risk. I know its nice to dream and believe that a lot of people will be interested, but most likely mainstream America will either miss the point of the show entirely or simply not care. Not everybody is willing or even capable to look deeper and peer into the layers beneath the surface of a show and see past the dominant genre it falls into, nor are they likely to not judge a show immediately by the cover of a DVD and what it says on the back. You may just have too much faith in the average human being, and you know that's kind of a nice thing to have, wish I still did.Then how do you explain Adult Swim airing "Paranoia Agent?" And how does that fit into your criteria???? :D

:cool:

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-01-07, 07:36

Then how do you explain Adult Swim airing "Paranoia Agent?" And how does that fit into your criteria???? :D

:cool:

if that is possible what are the chances of Haruhi airing on Adult swim??
to me paranoia agent seemed violent enough to fit adult swim"s criteria:heh:

FatPianoBoy

2007-01-07, 12:44

Then how do you explain Adult Swim airing "Paranoia Agent?" And how does that fit into your criteria???? :D

:cool:

It fits in because [as] was testing the market for psychological thrillers. The market apparently failed the test, as it only reran once, if I remember correctly. Interestingly and somewhat related, I heard (did not watch, do not know) that [as] also omitted the final two episodes of Evangelion.

GyroidFanatic

2007-01-07, 16:15

No, they aired all 26.

CrowKenobi

2007-01-07, 23:44

Then how do you explain Adult Swim airing "Paranoia Agent?" And how does that fit into your criteria???? :D

It fits in because [as] was testing the market for psychological thrillers. The market apparently failed the test, as it only reran once, if I remember correctly. I'd like to point out that when I made my post, an episode of Paranoia Agent just finished airing. :D

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-01-08, 05:35

so the chance of Haruhi being aired on adult swim is slim or atleast fifty-fifty??

or maybe none:heh:

Southern Cross

2007-01-08, 05:45

I think Haruhi will be a bigger internet meme when it airs, at the very least. xD

Maybe the distributors are aware of Haruhi's capable "God-mode" and will inflict it upon the U.S. in an orderly fashion. I found that the whole ASOS thing seemed to appeal to those "aware" of memes and Haruhi itself. (i.e. the clear Esper reference and the shoved in though humorous "O RLY.. YEA RLY" sequence - and in it's essence.

But, realistically, I think a lot of people are worried about actually airing it. The way the distributors are taking it slowly, now, isn't too bad at all. Through that, acutally, I learned that a wider range of the American culture found SHnY more respectable than previously, although dismissed elsewhere due to the basic "anti-Anime Western -cynical-internet-er feeling" (I myself have actually been guilty of it, not too far back in life, but I'm really getting past it xD)

I myself am actually trying to get some of my reasonable, open-minded friends toward it. xP

Regardless, I think we're all aware of the current target of this "Stage-1" of the marketing scheme, I guess.

Although, I do believe, this may be so overhyped, some of the more typical Americans may get shocked at what they see and then easily dismiss it due to "unawareness", which I feel is always wrong, but what I also feel is a recurring human belief, or fear, however one may argue it as. xP

I'll stand firm with Haruhiism, though, I know that much. xD

dkellis

2007-01-08, 14:41

DOOOOM, possibly.

darkchibi07

2007-01-08, 21:57

Mmmm, our impeding doom. :p

It's more likely the release of episode 1 of the ASOS Brigade with hopefully the English cast announcement!

aegismode

2007-01-09, 12:50

Personally I don't really care if Haruhi's big in the US or not. I won't mind if it had aired on CN, but if they've shunned it I won't be surprised. There are just too much ignorance and myopia when it comes to releasing anime to the Gen Pop. As long as real, hardcore fans gets to buy the good and the respect of the creative staff, I'm happy.

I'm most impressed with the marketing effort. I hate myspace ever since it became big, but even I made an account just to keep track with ASOS. I feel the people behind the American release efforts really wanted to respect fan's intelligence and knowledge. I appreciate these efforts.

I've been thinking about the broken English Adaptation line, and it seemed to me that if Tanigawa-sensei has considerable control over the Japanese website and its many cool hidden features and quirky-ness, he maybe doing the same with the ASOS site. With that English Adaptation line, they maybe telling us that Tanigawa-sensei is also in creative control of the ASOS site, and that includes the personified Kyon on myspace too.

I maybe totally wrong, but I tend to believe that Tanigawa-sensei is behind all the hidden comments on the main site and the posts supposedly written by "Kyon" on myspace. I'm sure there are marketing goals they are trying to accomplish, but I believe Tanigawa-sensei must have significant input before these efforts are put to public. I mean, can you imagine a random Bandai or KadoUSA employee speaking as Kyon? I can't believe Tanigawa would let just a foreign marketing person speaking as one of his prized creations without his direct creative input. I mean things like Kyon's sign, you can't just make it up. This person also knows about local Nishinomiya events and matsuri dates. I don't think this Kyon is simply a random American or Japanese employee of the licensing companies. I hold the theory that all the comments were written by Tanigawa-sensei in Japanese, and later translated by Americans. Same goes with the Kyon myspace posts. The messages may simply contain marketing idea and the dates maybe selected by the marketers, but I think the hidden comments and the posts were his words directly translated.

If that's the case, I'd say we're even luckier than the Japanese fans. They do not have a forum where they can directly communicate with members of SOS-Dan and asking them about their daily lives; we do. I'll keep testing this Kyon and see if he shows any hints of not being Japanese or not from Nishinomiya/Kansai region, just for the heck of it. Aside from waiting for DVD, this potential dialog with Haruhi's creator is what I'm most interested right now.

Setsuna Asuka

2007-01-09, 17:16

Above the counter<_<

<The ribbon of destiny binds us now>

.....Damn highlighting.

dkellis

2007-01-09, 18:11

I'm used to anime in general being a relatively niche interest. I don't really care if it becomes popular or not.

I try to like the anime that I like, which is getting harder and harder every time I come to the AnimeSuki forums (or any forum which discusses anime, for that matter) because it's difficult to separate "liking an anime" and "being part of the fandom". For example, taking MoSH, I like it because, well, I like it, not because it is popular or trendy. If it becomes big in the US fandom, fine. If not, also fine.

I'd just rather not be automatically associated with a certain stigma just because I like the show. I've seen this happen many times already with MoSH, which is why I'd love for this forum software to have Post Ignore support or something.

Mueti

2007-01-09, 18:21

(...) I've seen this happen many times already with MoSH, which is why I'd love for this forum software to have Post Ignore support or something.

Click *username* -> view public profile -> add *username* to your ignorelist ;)

CrowKenobi

2007-01-09, 19:05

The extra text in the source code is gone from the asos website, but they've added keywords: haruhi, suzumiya, melancholy, haruhiism, asos, sos, brigade, kyon, mikuru, yuki, itsuki, the melancholy of haruhi suzumiya, the melancholy of suzumiya haruhi, anime, animation, sosdan, sos brigade, asosbrigade, dan, the greatest anime of all time :heh:

:cool:

dkellis

2007-01-09, 19:41

Click *username* -> view public profile -> add *username* to your ignorelist ;)

Well, I was hoping for something that could ignore individual posts.

For example, I've already hit Ignore User on the people I'd rather not read any of, but it doesn't help when they get quoted in entirety later.

Ezekiel Rage

2007-01-16, 01:48

Site changed again. Go above the picture of Haruhi and highlight

"Don't just think outside of the box... Escape from it!"

darkchibi07

2007-01-16, 06:30

The website also released a Gundam SEED Destiny trailer as well! :heh:

:uhoh:

Noppapana

2007-01-16, 09:10

The website also released a Gundam SEED Destiny trailer as well! :heh:

:uhoh:

i didnt know that kyon was a fan of gundam
interesting note :D

darkchibi07

2007-01-16, 21:26

Haruhi strikes again! :heh:



Brilliant! :heh: :heh:

dkellis

2007-01-16, 21:38

The computer club president will have his revenge one day. Mark my words.

Tokkan

2007-01-21, 07:25

asosbrigade.com update:

They've updated the site, it's simply asking where the new video is, and that She will do unspeakable things if it is not put. The links in the update are to weird images associated with a hard drive having been burnt out and a new one being installed. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

Scifience

2007-01-21, 09:55

The one picture on the site now made me LOL:

http://www.asosbrigade.com/parts.html

That reminds me of myself: whenever I install a new part or upgrade something in my computer, I end up with extra screws left over. Everything works fine, but I'm too lazy to open the thing up again and figure out where the screw goes.

I always lose those PCI slot covers too.... :heh:

GyroidFanatic

2007-01-21, 13:43

So... "another day or two"?

They've updated the site, it's simply asking where the new video is, and that She will do unspeakable things if it is not put. The links in the update are to weird images associated with a hard drive having been burnt out and a new one being installed. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

Apparently they lost the hard drive with the video on it

CrowKenobi

2007-01-21, 21:20

asosbrigade.com update:

They've updated the site, it's simply asking where the new video is, and that She will do unspeakable things if it is not put. The links in the update are to weird images associated with a hard drive having been burnt out and a new one being installed. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.You forgot to check the source code:
















:cool:

Tokkan

2007-01-21, 21:33

You forgot to check the source code:

:cool:

I did. That was the first thing I did before I posted, those messages WEREN'T there when I saw the update.

CrowKenobi

2007-01-21, 21:34

I did. That was the first thing I did before I posted, those messages WEREN'T there when I saw the update.Don't you hate it when they do that? :D

And, will they change the code again in 12-14 hours??

darkchibi07

2007-01-22, 16:23

A new poll is out! Now you must choose which order you want.....a.k.a CHOOSE THE BROADCAST ORDER!!! :D

FatPianoBoy

2007-01-22, 18:45

Yes, Kyon's order is far, far ahead.
All's right with the world.

darkchibi07

2007-01-23, 19:03

Hmmm, this appeared recently:

-- Doctor, how is she? --
-- Her vitals appear good for now --
-- What about the prognosis --
-- I am unable to say for certain yet, it's a very difficult time --
-- Is there any hope? --
-- We really need a higher baseline reading --
-- Do not give up, we're giving her our best treatments --
-- It's all up to him now --

:twitch:

I wonder who got sick.

Ezekiel Rage

2007-01-23, 20:22

Hmmm, this appeared recently:

-- Doctor, how is she? --
-- Her vitals appear good for now --
-- What about the prognosis --
-- I am unable to say for certain yet, it's a very difficult time --
-- Is there any hope? --
-- We really need a higher baseline reading --
-- Do not give up, we're giving her our best treatments --
-- It's all up to him now --

:twitch:

I wonder who got sick.

Nobody, I'm assuming "her" is their server/computer. As we all know they've been having problems with it...and now it seems like "she" is dying :(

Mirrinus

2007-01-24, 05:39

New site message. Apparently, our little miss Brigade Chief demands that the new video be posted within 24 hours, or there will be SEVERE REPERCUSSIONS...

Tokkan

2007-01-24, 10:44

New site message. Apparently, our little miss Brigade Chief demands that the new video be posted within 24 hours, or there will be SEVERE REPERCUSSIONS...

If that's not confirmation on when it is coming, I don't know what is.

quigonkenny

2007-01-24, 14:33

asosbrigade.com update:

They've updated the site, it's simply asking where the new video is, and that She will do unspeakable things if it is not put. The links in the update are to weird images associated with a hard drive having been burnt out and a new one being installed. I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.

All I know is that it means I've repaired too many computers when I can tell you with some certainty that the laptop they're taking pictures of (at least the internal pictures) is a Sony VGN-A200 series.

And I'm pretty sure the new hard drive they installed was a Seagate, due to the "designed for producer installation only" warning...

Tokkan

2007-01-24, 22:40

Newest Update:

January 24, 2007 1925 PST
Less than 5 hours left, where's that video!

BUNNY SUIT! I'M GOING TO MAKE THEM ALL WEAR BUNNY SUITS!!!

No page source messages at this time of writing.

FatPianoBoy

2007-01-24, 23:39

So, does "all" include Kyon and Itsuki, too? :uhoh:

darkchibi07

2007-01-24, 23:41

The website is now this!

System restore in progress, 20% completed.

-- Let us send a delegation to the east coast and make an announcement there --

I think this is it!

Tokkan

2007-01-25, 00:13

It now says 30% complete. Plus, in the source was that source message and the following:
-- GATEWAY BREACH DETECTED, EMERGENCY DATA PURGE ACTIVATED --

Edit: 40% Complete. New addition to source:

Edit: 50% Complete. The Gateway breach detection stuff in the source was replaced with: -- INJECTING FEED MATERIAL, UNKNOWN ETA, SECONDARY SERVERS BOOTING --

Edit: 60% Complete. New Addition to Source: 

Edit: 70%. -- ENGLISH UPSTREAM FEED PREPARING --

Edit: 85%. -- What... is... this... ... ... --

Edit: 95%. Every message in the source was replaced with: 

Edit: Now there is nothing at asosbrigade.com. Nothing at all. Nothing but white.

Edit: "oops" indeed. Didn't even use html to tell us that.

Edit: Video out. The 1st DVD is out on May 29th.

CrowKenobi

2007-01-25, 03:24

Edit: Video out. The 1st DVD is out on May 29th.You forgot to mention that in the credits at the end of the video that in the next video they'll be visiting the studio to "spread the excitement." :D

...whenever that'll be...

:cool:

quigonkenny

2007-01-25, 03:28

Edit: Video out. The 1st DVD is out on May 29th.

Not only that, but the obligatory special edition version comes with a box to fit four DVDs. That means they're going to be released in some form of 3-3-4-4 format. Not too surprising info, but at least it's something.

Too bad we didn't get any VA info, though...

Asrialys

2007-01-25, 05:38

Why do I see these people suddenly showing up at an anime convention at some totally random point?

With four DVDs to Japan's seven, I hope we get just as much goodies.

Noppapana

2007-01-25, 07:53

lmao at the second vid
its prob the best DVD promotion i have ever seen

btw at the end of the credits : No special thanks to downloaders and bootleggers who never buy the official dvds
thats good one :p

dkellis

2007-01-25, 07:54

New source code messages as of around 0800h EST:

mugener

2007-01-25, 08:08

Not only that, but the obligatory special edition version comes with a box to fit four DVDs. That means they're going to be released in some form of 3-3-4-4 format. Not too surprising info, but at least it's something.

Too bad we didn't get any VA info, though...

the most important thing is what order are they using.

any info???

Asrialys

2007-01-25, 12:30

The site poll is confusing. I thought the Haruhi order was the TV broadcast order. And the Kyon order is the chronological order. Totally weird wording.

They would have to use the TV broadcast order. There would be such a terrible backlash of fire and death if they didn't.

Dagger

2007-01-25, 12:34

No, I'm pretty sure that Haruhi order is chronological... Kyon lists the episodes in broadcast order during the previews, but then she interrupts him with the correct chronological designation IIRC.

relentlessflame

2007-01-25, 13:25

No, I'm pretty sure that Haruhi order is chronological... Kyon lists the episodes in broadcast order during the previews, but then she interrupts him with the correct chronological designation IIRC.Pretty much, except it's Kyon who interrupts her -- Haruhi announces the episode number as if it were chronological (as it was in the novels), and then Kyon corrects her in light of the fact that the TV viewers aren't seeing it in that order. So Kyon's order is as it aired on TV. On the R2 DVDs, Yuki announces the next episode instead, since it follows neither order exactly (because episode "00" still comes first).

Scifience

2007-01-25, 15:03

I wonder if Haruhi will still be mad if I don't buy the R1 DVDs even if I've already bought the R2 ones... :heh:

Does anyone else think it is weird that Haruhi speaks English in the videos? It just doesn't seem right somehow. Especially since the other characters seemingly understand what she says and yet respond in Japanese. And whoever they have playing Haruhi didn't say Kyon's name right. She said it "Key-Own" :confused:

relentlessflame

2007-01-25, 16:08

Does anyone else think it is weird that Haruhi speaks English in the videos? It just doesn't seem right somehow. Especially since the other characters seemingly understand what she says and yet respond in Japanese. And whoever they have playing Haruhi didn't say Kyon's name right. She said it "Key-Own" :confused:She can barely pronounced her own character name right. :heh: It's all very weird, and isn't supposed to be "quality" at any level. So I wouldn't think about it too much. What's weird to me (as was pointed out on the video itself) is that they're actually going to include those on the DVDs. :heh:

I wonder if Haruhi will still be mad if I don't buy the R1 DVDs even if I've already bought the R2 ones... :heh: Needless to say, I think you've paid your dues. :heh: (Though it's nice that the R1 release will have an artbox...)

Noppapana

2007-01-25, 16:11

^^
the r2 artboxs are worth to collect, hope the same for the new DVD releases
if they just put SOS-dan logo and each of them, then i just buy the R2s even it doesnt have the subs

FatPianoBoy

2007-01-25, 16:16

they're actually going to include those on the DVDs. :heh:

A-ba-bwah!? :twitch:
Feels a bit like commercial-level fanwankery to me, but I guess it'll be good for a laugh or two.

Dagger

2007-01-25, 16:27

^^
the r1 artbox are worth to collect, hope the same for the new DVD releases
if they just put SOS-dan logo and each of them, then i just buy the R1s even it doesnt have the subs
Believe me, it will have subs. :)

Noppapana

2007-01-25, 16:36

Believe me, it will have subs. :)

sorry i mean the R2 from japan DVDs
both the normal as limited editions look fantastic
i wonder what kind of extras will they put in DVDs, i hope its not just those vids on asosbrigade

relentlessflame

2007-01-25, 16:39

Ah - well, what I meant by artbox was that the R1 release will have an actual box of some sort to hold all 4 DVDs, which is something the R2 release didn't have in this case (though, certainly, the packaging was still very nice anyway).

Scifience

2007-01-25, 16:51

She can barely pronounced her own character name right. :heh: It's all very weird, and isn't supposed to be "quality" at any level. So I wouldn't think about it too much. What's weird to me (as was pointed out on the video itself) is that they're actually going to include those on the DVDs. :heh:

I know...it is really rather pathetic. An interesting marketing tactic, but not pulled off nearly as well as it could have been.

I could understand trying to make them look funny and like they have low production values (similar to episode 00/1 of the TV series). This would be logical in keeping with the idea that they were made by a school club, not a major Hollywood movie studio.

However, the characters ought to at least know how the correct way to pronounce eachother's names, and they should all speak to eachother in the same language. At least to my way of thinking....

Southern Cross

2007-01-26, 01:17

I know...it is really rather pathetic. An interesting marketing tactic, but not pulled off nearly as well as it could have been.

I could understand trying to make them look funny and like they have low production values (similar to episode 00/1 of the TV series). This would be logical in keeping with the idea that they were made by a school club, not a major Hollywood movie studio.

However, the characters ought to at least know how the correct way to pronounce eachother's names, and they should all speak to eachother in the same language. At least to my way of thinking....

Eh, yeah, it bothered me slightly, too.

I think they should've just stopped at Episode 00 with that scheme, I'm very sure the marketers’ have better minds than to keep leaning on the concept. Also, being an American, and knowing how impatient the mainstream is, I doubt the marketing will appeal much. I do believe one of the first things brought up in the beginning of Episode 01 was something along the lines of "if you don't understand at all.. it's okay!" Honestly, if I had the thinking of a mainstream-er, I would have been quite creeped out. xP

It's not too bad, though, I'm just thinking worst-case scenario wise.

Aside from that, I'm definitely buying whatever they have for us R1-ers, i'd like to go through the experience again in higher quality (and perhaps English, if they work that out alright). xD

Vexx

2007-01-26, 01:41

After seeing how first season Negima and *particularly* Tsukuyomi Moon Phase were marketed in America via their trailers.... I'll lay money the marketeers haven't watched more than one or two episodes and base the entire marketing plan off those first couple of episodes. Thus they have really have no idea what comes later :)

Already allocating the money for the R1 but I'll admit I'm *very* interested in seeing how they handle the dub (much less the translation) - especially in episode 5 during Nagato's monolog.

Ezekiel Rage

2007-01-26, 16:41

New poll up on the ASOS site! Anyone who doesn't vote for Haruhi shall die...and anyone who votes for Itsuki needs serious help :eyebrow:

CrowKenobi

2007-01-26, 17:45

New poll up on the ASOS site! Anyone who doesn't vote for Haruhi shall die...and anyone who votes for Itsuki needs serious help :eyebrow:Well that didn't stop 9 people voting for Kyon, 5 for Itsuki, and 8 for the cat!! :twitch:

:cool:

Update: as of 01/30/07 10:15pm
Haruhi:....1423 votes
Mikuru:......823 votes
Yuki:.........748 votes
Kyon:........422 votes
Itsuki:.......217 votes
Shamsien:..244 votesYes, the cat has 244 votes... :eyespin: :stupid:

Asrialys

2007-01-27, 12:31

How can the really expect people to answer seriously when they have Kyon, Itsuki, and Samisen listed...

Voted Mikuru.

Cloud05

2007-01-30, 23:10

I voted Haruhi.

Tokkan

2007-01-31, 01:20

Heh, I just checked the source and found this: 












Interesting...

darkchibi07

2007-01-31, 05:36

Let there be a dub cast announcement! :D

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-01-31, 06:34

maybe a novel licensing announcement??!!

but what we all really want is a dub cast announcement!!!

hopefully it will be good!!

dkellis

2007-01-31, 14:56

MORE DOTS!

I'm sorry, I had to.

There seem to be at least two distinct "types" of source code messages. One type is all mysterious and scary and creepy, and the other is a lot more informal, with smilies and such.

Green²

2007-01-31, 15:27

How can the really expect people to answer seriously when they have Kyon, Itsuki, and Samisen listed...

Voted Mikuru.
I know I'm really not supposed to leak classified information, but Mikuru mentioned something of: "Kyon!, you should've long ago put on the god damned bunny suit when you had the chance."

I don't know what she means by that. But I do fear that I may be redeploying sometime soon as an result.

Noppapana

2007-01-31, 18:53

there is something bothering about this licensing
are the R1 DVDs going to have the animation from the R2 (the renewed animation by KyoAn and extra scenes ? or are they just use the tv ones ?

darkchibi07

2007-01-31, 19:34

there is something bothering about this licensing
are the R1 DVDs going to have the animation from the R2 (the renewed animation by KyoAn and extra scenes ? or are they just use the tv ones ?

They're obviously going to use the DVD quality versions like the R2s or else Kadokawa would be shooting themselves on the foot. ;)

Drytchnath

2007-01-31, 19:47

So, anyone else thinks Bandai will butcher the DVD release of Haruhi like they did with both R1 seasons of GitS:SAC? Meaning: The same exact trailers throughout season 1 AND 2, boring interviews with staff members and a handful of line artwork.
No alternate OP's or ED's, no special promotional trailers, etc.

God i hate Bandai due to their laziness. Maybe they'll correct their past mistakes with Haruhi, I can only hope.

GyroidFanatic

2007-01-31, 20:54

Keep in mind that Kadokawa's going to be watching them like hawks.

Asrialys

2007-02-01, 02:43

Given the way they're currently advertising this anime you'd think they'd respond in a good way to the fans' needs.

izzyntsherandom

2007-02-01, 13:24

"We need a stage"- they could be talking about the Live- the concert in Japan? But that's March 18th, perhaps a little far in the future for the source code messages to be talking about...

Hey, at least GitS SAC got a good dub though, right? And extras are just that- extras. They can be really shiny and things you're really happy were included, but they're not the be-all and end-all of a release. I'm just holding out for good quality subs, a good dub, nice cover-art (preferably that isn't exclusively the female characters XD poor Kyon and Itsuki deserve cover-presence too), and a good blurb. Everything else would be a (muchly appreciated) bonus!

steelbound

2007-02-01, 14:31

I really liked Bandai's GitS:SAC release. Sure the on-disc extras where not spectacular but getting the extra stuff like the 3 O.S.T. discs as well as figurines from the second season where really cool and the dub was top notch.

For me, all the Haruhi DVD's have to do is give a quality sub and be a good transfer. I don't really care about the english dub personally but a quality dub might bring more viewers to the show which I'm all for. The one thing I would really like to see is the show released in broadcast order but if it's not then it's not like I won't buy the DVD.

Things I'd like to see as extras would be an OST, that CD with the insert songs and Koi no Mikuru Densetsu, figurines of yuki playing guitar and yuki reading, and an armband.

Vexx

2007-02-01, 15:43

there is something bothering about this licensing
are the R1 DVDs going to have the animation from the R2 (the renewed animation by KyoAn and extra scenes ? or are they just use the tv ones ?

I've seen this question asked occasionally for a variety of series... has any company EVER used the tv tapes for an R1 release rather than the DVD masters? That just sounds insanely stupid and actually more production work.

The only time I've seen such a crappy product like that, they were bootlegs.

ah well... I wasn't terribly impressed with ADV's mucking about with the PPD extras (adding fairly lame interviews with the english VAs, for example) but their efforts at footnoting and subbing were fairly impressive...
The main thing I have from Bandai is the Love Hina Perfect Collection ... and that was put out so long ago, it isn't really a good clue on whether Bandai is going to step up to recent packaging and production values we've seen from Geneon (Kamichu!) or Funimation (TMP).

steelbound

2007-02-01, 19:45

I was rewatching the ep1 video posted on asosbrigade.com and noticed that it said a torrent of that video is available at asosbrigade.com/torrents. Went there and was redirected to http://asosbrigade.com:6969/ which did in fact have a torrent page for the sub and raw versions of the asosbrigade videos.

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-01, 20:53

"We need a stage"- they could be talking about the Live- the concert in Japan? But that's March 18th, perhaps a little far in the future for the source code messages to be talking about...

End of Febuary = New York Comic-con

Bandai already said they'd be revealing something Haruhi-related.

Asrialys

2007-02-02, 01:33

The Hare Hare Yukai dance comes to mind...

aegismode

2007-02-02, 14:33

I would love to see an Hirano Aya concert in the US....

Just FYI, I'm not sure why Kyon in the blog keep recommending "Collision with Chronos". Maybe the Japanese version Tanigawa read was "better", but it's probably one of the racist book I've ever read. I mean it was full of racist language, especially against the Chinese, if you know what I mean. I think it was intended to expose the "evils of racism" with a backdrop of some weird time-related scifi piece, but reading it closely you can tell just how racist and bias the author is himself. Kyon could have mentioned that the "present" human who 's fighting against the future "aliens" are descendents of the Nazis... oh my goodness I'm so embarrased of owning this sub-standard, racist psudo sci-fi book. Let me put it lightly - it's like L. Ron Hubbard version of "Mein-Kampft" with even worse ending (than Hubbard's books!), only that the intense racism is aimed at Asians. If you're Asian and you're able read this book cover-to-cover and not get angrier than ape-shit, I can only say that you are an extremely mature human being.

Attention Bandai and KadoUSA Marketing Team Members (I know you're reading this): HAVE YOU GUYS READ THE DAMN BOOK? Tanigawa may have loved it but gosh he didn't read the English version with its at least a 1,000 occurance of the racist word "Chink." Please remove this book from being associated with Haruhi, especially to English native speakers. I love Haruhi... please don't tarnish this great anime with this dumb book.

I can't even put this book on my bookshelf... damn I gotta figure out how to return this crap to Amazon...

Just in case I didn't make myself clear - don't buy this book unless you're a closet neo-nazi. If you're real otaku and only buying this crap out of love for Haruhi - don't. I can't believe I'm making comments about white supermists on a forum devoted to Haruhi... gosh, the definition of sacralige to a Haruhiist.

Reading this book has ruined my day. I'm going to go take a shower now and hopefully I can forget this book ever existed.

Scifience

2007-02-02, 14:33

I was rewatching the ep1 video posted on asosbrigade.com and noticed that it said a torrent of that video is available at asosbrigade.com/torrents. Went there and was redirected to http://asosbrigade.com:6969/ which did in fact have a torrent page for the sub and raw versions of the asosbrigade videos.

It's pathetic that they're begging for donations on that page.

Bandai is a for-profit company looking to sell people stuff. Who in their right mind would give them so much as a dime as a donation? :mad:

February 2, 2007 0325 PST
Water... water everywhere! Everything is covered in water! WHAT?! A swim club?! I told them they have no time for other activities! Don't make me repeat from last summer what everyone should already know by now!

That's IT! Another VIDEO! I shall have another video next week to gather more people together into my Brigade!! And if they do not finish it in time... It will be Exciting and Fun no matter what happens!!! >:D

In any case, there's the new message. I'm *so* looking forward to another nonsensical, badly produced video. And it seems I'm supposed to donate to them to help support these videos... :rolleyes:

Asrialys

2007-02-02, 15:37

I call for their own Hare Hare Yukai dance!

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-02, 16:38

Just FYI, I'm not sure why Kyon in the blog keep recommending "Collision with Chronos". Maybe the Japanese version Tanigawa read was "better", but it's probably one of the racist book I've ever read. I mean it was full of racist language, especially against the Chinese, if you know what I mean. I think it was intended to expose the "evils of racism" with a backdrop of some weird time-related scifi piece, but reading it closely you can tell just how racist and bias the author is himself. Kyon could have mentioned that the "present" human who 's fighting against the future "aliens" are descendents of the Nazis... oh my goodness I'm so embarrased of owning this sub-standard, racist psudo sci-fi book. Let me put it lightly - it's like L. Ron Hubbard version of "Mein-Kampft" with even worse ending (than Hubbard's books!), only that the intense racism is aimed at Asians. If you're Asian and you're able read this book cover-to-cover and not get angrier than ape-shit, I can only say that you are an extremely mature human being.

Attention Bandai and KadoUSA Marketing Team Members (I know you're reading this): HAVE YOU GUYS READ THE DAMN BOOK? Tanigawa may have loved it but gosh he didn't read the English version with its at least a 1,000 occurance of the racist word "Chink." Please remove this book from being associated with Haruhi, especially to English native speakers. I love Haruhi... please don't tarnish this great anime with this dumb book.

I can't even put this book on my bookshelf... damn I gotta figure out how to return this crap to Amazon...

Just in case I didn't make myself clear - don't buy this book unless you're a closet neo-nazi. If you're real otaku and only buying this crap out of love for Haruhi - don't. I can't believe I'm making comments about white supermists on a forum devoted to Haruhi... gosh, the definition of sacralige to a Haruhiist.

Reading this book has ruined my day. I'm going to go take a shower now and hopefully I can forget this book ever existed.

Close, but no cigar. He was talking about The Fall of Hyperion.

aegismode

2007-02-02, 18:18

Close, but no cigar. He was talking about The Fall of Hyperion.

Eh, you visite the myspace site often? It's listed right on under Books as one of Kyon's interests. I even guessed it was "Collision with Chronos" since it was won a Japanese sci-fi award. But he confirmed it with this (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=139254574&blogID=218866186&Mytoken=3289EB26-BA57-4E81-82C2CD62136DE5A78694267) entry. He talked about this book for 3 blog posts straight and that's why I bought it from Amazon. What a mistake. Please do not read the book.

darkchibi07

2007-02-02, 18:22

It's pathetic that they're begging for donations on that page.

Bandai is a for-profit company looking to sell people stuff. Who in their right mind would give them so much as a dime as a donation? :mad:

In any case, there's the new message. I'm *so* looking forward to another nonsensical, badly produced video. And it seems I'm supposed to donate to them to help support these videos... :rolleyes:

Have you ever realize that's just a tongue of cheek since most fansub tracker sites does the same thing? They're obviously parodying the "ways of the fansubbers". :rolleyes:

Green²

2007-02-02, 19:12

In any case, there's the new message. I'm *so* looking forward to another nonsensical, badly produced video. And it seems I'm supposed to donate to them to help support these videos... :rolleyes:
I took a double look at that February 2nd posting at the ASOS, but, it's almost as if they were referring to, Cartoon Network's Adult Swim programing block. :eyebrow:

I know that Bandai did make a push to get some of their titles to television broadcast. ...the previous being Eureka 7 and .hack//Roots. If they do the same on Haruhi, it would certainly bring a load more of people to the Brigade.

darkchibi07

2007-02-02, 19:26

:twitch:

I'll be nearly shocked if that happens!

Asrialys

2007-02-02, 19:47

LOL But what order are the showing the episodes? Weren't the R2 DVDs in chronological order? If they use the TV broadcast order, then that 00 episode is most definitely going to shock the unexpected. Are unaware Americans ready for such a thing? lol

aegismode

2007-02-02, 19:55

:twitch:

I'll be nearly shocked if that happens!

I wouldn't. They have nothing to lose; less popular anime with no certain audience has been shown on TV bofore.. this one has build-in audience. Yeah it's pretty otaku-ish but if you think about it, the story can indeed draw in non-otakus. I mean they won't some of the references but the appreciation of the basic story line needs no otaku background. Heck it may even be a minor hit.

Asrialys

2007-02-02, 20:34

I wouldn't. They have nothing to lose; less popular anime with no certain audience has been shown on TV bofore.. this one has build-in audience. Yeah it's pretty otaku-ish but if you think about it, the story can indeed draw in non-otakus. I mean they won't some of the references but the appreciation of the basic story line needs no otaku background. Heck it may even be a minor hit.
Mmmmm...maybe not. And tell me, which of these "less popular anime" are you speaking of?

Scifience

2007-02-02, 21:16

Have you ever realize that's just a tongue of cheek since most fansub tracker sites does the same thing? They're obviously parodying the "ways of the fansubbers". :rolleyes:

Yes. Then make the button non-functioning. That would have been funny. Instead, if you click on it, you could actually give them money. It is a fully-functional link to donate money to a PayPal account registered to Bandai.

There's even a lame disclaimer about donations not being tax deductible and about having to be 18 or over to donate. Now tell me what fansub site writes something like that?

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2007-02-02, 21:45

Yes. Then make the button non-functioning. That would have been funny. Instead, if you click on it, you could actually give them money. It is a fully-functional link to donate money to a PayPal account registered to Bandai.

There's even a lame disclaimer about donations not being tax deductible and about having to be 18 or over to donate. Now tell me what fansub site writes something like that?

Why isn't it funny? It's not like you are forced to give them money or anything.

This is exactly how Haruhi would have done things; things she does may look hilarious to viewers across the forth wall, but to her it is serious business. If you needed to donate in order to access the site, then I will complain. But donations are donations; no one is forcing you to given them money, but what makes you think anyone would reject free money?:p

aegismode

2007-02-04, 00:22

Mmmmm...maybe not. And tell me, which of these "less popular anime" are you speaking of?

Eh, Super Milk-chan? By popular I mean fansub popular. I don't remember a bunch of crazed Scryed fan dying for the DVD release either. FLCL was an otaku anime and it became pretty successful with the "mainstream" anime viewers. Haruhi has at least the same type of appeal. But of course it may fail and AS forums will be filled with ignoramuses flaming each other about Haruhi... Perhaps that's what I wouldn't like to see. The idea of the unwashed "mainstream" bitching about Our Lord Haurhi makes me want to go Jihad on the non-believers. ^^)

aegismode

2007-02-04, 00:27

Why isn't it funny? It's not like you are forced to give them money or anything.

This is exactly how Haruhi would have done things; things she does may look hilarious to viewers across the forth wall, but to her it is serious business. If you needed to donate in order to access the site, then I will complain. But donations are donations; no one is forcing you to given them money, but what makes you think anyone would reject free money?:p

I get the joke but making the button functional is not cool. When you donate you simply supplement the frigging marketing budget. If the paypal account was registered to Tanigawa or the site is REALLY run by fans then I can dig it. If the money goes to one of the biggest anime/toy company in the world, hell no. They'll get their cut when I buy the DVDS.

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2007-02-04, 01:57

I get the joke but making the button functional is not cool. When you donate you simply supplement the frigging marketing budget. If the paypal account was registered to Tanigawa or the site is REALLY run by fans then I can dig it. If the money goes to one of the biggest anime/toy company in the world, hell no. They'll get their cut when I buy the DVDS.

The biggest toy company in the world? You are getting your similar-named companies mixed up. :heh:
Regardless, no one said you need to give them anything. Bill Gates could set up a donation button on the Microsoft website, and there would still be nothing wrong with it. People can give money to whoever they want.

Asrialys

2007-02-04, 02:43

Yeah, a donation is like a voluntary tranfer of funds. You don't have to do it.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-02-04, 02:55

Yeah man Haruhi is going to be phenomonally successful in North America. I'll go to work and the guys will all be like "Hey, Graham you know anime and stuff right, I saw this show called Suzumiya Haruhi No Yuutsu and it was awesome". Then I'll be like "Really, how the hell did you see that show." Then as I'm leaving for the day there will be posters for the show everywhere and as I run down the street a Haruhi parade balloon will come by in Chibi form and as I'm crouching down in utter panic and disbelief it turns out it was all just a really strange dream. It could happen to you!

quigonkenny

2007-02-04, 04:22

LOL But what order are the showing the episodes? Weren't the R2 DVDs in chronological order? If they use the TV broadcast order, then that 00 episode is most definitely going to shock the unexpected. Are unaware Americans ready for such a thing? lol

Considering the tastes of Adult Swim's anime-ignorant crowd, Episode 00 would actually be the best way to start the show off. Considering their most successful in-house show, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, is about as random as it gets (outside of the uneven Perfect Hair Forever or the unwatchable 12 Oz Mouse), I think a lot of Adult Swim's anime-ignorant fans would get a kick out of the SOS Dan's most critically acclaimed work.

Of course, the anime haters in their audience (and there are a number of them, all incessantly vocal on the forums) wouldn't like it even if they had a Jessica Alba striptease at each commercial break, but you can't please everybody. (and some don't deserve pleasing, but that's neither here nor there...)

Still don't see the show getting on Adult Swim, though, or succeeding there if it does, no matter how good the dub or the original material is. It's too unique a combination of humorous and cerebral for their audience, if you ask me. Now on the other hand, the second best anime of 2006, Black Lagoon...that show was absolutely made for Adult Swim. They cast the dub right, and it'll be the next Bebop.

Scifience

2007-02-04, 10:38

The biggest toy company in the world? You are getting your similar-named companies mixed up. :heh:
Regardless, no one said you need to give them anything. Bill Gates could set up a donation button on the Microsoft website, and there would still be nothing wrong with it. People can give money to whoever they want.

While Bandai is not the biggest toy company in the world, it is certainly one of the biggest, which is all aegismode said. In fact, according to Wikipedia:

Bandai Co., Ltd. (株式会社バンダイ, Kabushiki-gaisha Bandai?) is a Japanese toy making company, as well as the producer of a large number of anime and tokusatsu programs. It is the world's third largest producer of toys.

I put the relevent part in bold.

aegismode

2007-02-04, 11:57

The biggest toy company in the world? You are getting your similar-named companies mixed up. :heh:

Hmm, I don't think so. Bandai Entertaiment said on their own website (http://www.bandai-ent.com/about/):

Bandai Entertainment Inc. is a subsidiary of Namco Bandai Holdings (USA) Inc. and the premier distributor of Japanese animation on DVD and programming for television broadcast in North America.

And If you goto Namco Bandai Holdings Inc's site (http://www.namcobandai.com/company/index.html), you'll find that they're owned by Namco Bandai Holdings Tokyo Inc. And according this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Namco_Bandai)only English page I can find, the company is of course the parent holding company for the Japanese game maker Namco and the biggest Toy company in Japan, Bandai.

I mean you really think Bandai Entertainment is unrelated to Bandai Japan? The life-size Gundam statues lining their HQ should offer us a clue. Gundam IS Bandai. Plus the logo is exactly the same.

EDIT: my google skills require update. Goto this (http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/about/group/index.html)page which listed Namco Bandai Holding Tokyo Inc. group of companies in English, you see that on the bottom left box called "Visual & Music Content SBU", you'll find Bandai Entertainment Inc. listed. They're one big happy Keiretsu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keiretsu)I tell ya.

aegismode

2007-02-04, 12:01

Considering the tastes of Adult Swim's anime-ignorant crowd, Episode 00 would actually be the best way to start the show off.

Yup. I totally agree. Kyon order is the only way watching the anime serially. People can jump to Haruhi order later, but if they watch in Kyon order first it's just that much better. I thought the Kyon order ending is PERFECT. If they do show on TV they know if would initially attract fans like us anyway, and many of us, I suspect, would complaint if they did not show in Kyon order.

Dagger

2007-02-04, 12:04

I mean you really think Bandai Entertainment is unrelated to Bandai Japan? The life-size Gundam statues lining their HQ should offer us a clue. Gundam IS Bandai. Plus the logo is exactly the same.
On that subject, it's worth noting that Bandai Ent and Bandai Visual (new company in R1, direct offshoot of Bandai Japan) operate as totally separate companies.

I think the donation thing is hysterical, personally. :heh:

aegismode

2007-02-04, 12:32

On that subject, it's worth noting that Bandai Ent and Bandai Visual (new company in R1, direct offshoot of Bandai Japan) operate as totally separate companies.

Wait a second, Bandai Visual? You mean a NEW American subsidary called Bandai Visual? Or the good ol' movie/anime arm of Bandai Japan, Bandai Visual (http://www.bandaivisual.co.jp/e/), which has been around since 1983? Bandai Visual is listed under the same box (http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/about/group/index.html) as Bandai Entertainment Inc, so it looks like they are just Japan and US subsidaries of the same side of Bandai business - music and animation/film distribution. So Bandai Visual is working directly in R1 side by side with Bandai Entertainment? Why is SOS-Dan listed on Bandai Entertainment's home page then? Bandai Visual Japan has no mention of Haruhi. Hmm....

Holy Haruhi Bandai owns both Sunrise AND Lantis as well. Lantis (http://lantis-net.com/haruhi) already create and distribute the Haruhi Radio Shows and all the Music CDs... so there has already been existing relationship. The R2 DVD is distrubuted by Klockworx, not a Bandai company... but Bandai Visual is really not that big on non-Sunrise anime before.. I mean Eureka 7 probably the only one recently that's not a major movie. Also interesting that Klockworx is also the R2 distributor for FMP! Second Raid. Oh well, who knows how these companies really deal with each other anyway. I'm just surprised how much anime $$ Bandai is already getting in Japan.. I mean Lantis IS the anime music company.

Dagger

2007-02-05, 11:04

There is a new American subsidiary called Bandai Visual. Bandai Ent is something rather separate as far as I know. The US branch of Bandai Visual has published fancy re-releases of the first two Patlabor movies and are about to release Gunbuster & Diebuster. They have nothing to do with the US release of Haruhi. Despite that, they have far closer ties to the JP Bandai (being that they're just an offshoot of that company) than Bandai Ent.

aegismode

2007-02-05, 14:12

There is a new American subsidiary called Bandai Visual. Bandai Ent is something rather separate as far as I know. The US branch of Bandai Visual has published fancy re-releases of the first two Patlabor movies and are about to release Gunbuster & Diebuster. They have nothing to do with the US release of Haruhi. Despite that, they have far closer ties to the JP Bandai (being that they're just an offshoot of that company) than Bandai Ent.

That's very interesting news. Why would they have two separate companies doing the same thing in the US? That's just nuts... maybe there's some insider reason why. I have found their website (http://www.bandaivisual.us/index.html)too.. so I guess they are not listed because they are really just Bandai Visual American office. From their mission statement it seemed that they are dedicated so the release of Anime DVD to the American market. Okay.. then why don't they have the Haruhi license then? Maybe they're only publishing anime titles in which Bandai Visual also distribute in Japan? It just seemed so weirld to see these two companies both carrying the Bandai name and yet seemed to be doing the same thing. I see that Bandai Entertainment also do some live action films too... but heck Bandai Visual Japan distribute tons of Japanese films in Japan. I don't get it... must be a political thing. Thanks for the info.

Dagger

2007-02-05, 15:25

The US branch of Kadokawa (JP company) are the ones with the Haruhi 'license.' They're just using Bandai Entertainment for assistance & distribution purposes for Haruhi, in the same way that they used FUNimation to release FMP: TSR. Bandai Ent is not a subsidiary of Bandai JP--they may have some professional ties, but they have to pay Bandai JP money to get a license (Haruhi is a totally different matter; presumably Kadokawa is paying them for their help, but Kadokawa US rather than Bandai holds the right to release the show and stuff). Bandai Visual US doesn't have to pay anyone money to release an anime in the US.

Kadokawa released Haruhi in Japan, IIRC, so I assume that's why their US branch is able to release Haruhi (in conjunction with Bandai Ent). Actually Bandai Visual JP didn't have anything to do with the JP Haruhi, as far as I know. Kadokawa didn't have to choose Bandai Ent to assist them with Haruhi--they could've picked Funi again, for instance. It just so happened that they ended up with Bandai Ent. Bandai Visual US is analagous to Kadokawa US--a direct offshoot of a JP company. Bandai Ent is its own operation w/ a confusing name.

At least that's the way I understand it. :heh:

CrowKenobi

2007-02-06, 09:49

Just FYI, I'm not sure why Kyon in the blog keep recommending "Collision with Chronos". Maybe the Japanese version Tanigawa read was "better", but it's probably one of the racist book I've ever read. I mean it was full of racist language, especially against the Chinese, if you know what I mean. I think it was intended to expose the "evils of racism" with a backdrop of some weird time-related scifi piece, but reading it closely you can tell just how racist and bias the author is himself. Kyon could have mentioned that the "present" human who 's fighting against the future "aliens" are descendents of the Nazis... oh my goodness I'm so embarrased of owning this sub-standard, racist psudo sci-fi book. Let me put it lightly - it's like L. Ron Hubbard version of "Mein-Kampft" with even worse ending (than Hubbard's books!), only that the intense racism is aimed at Asians. If you're Asian and you're able read this book cover-to-cover and not get angrier than ape-shit, I can only say that you are an extremely mature human being.

Attention Bandai and KadoUSA Marketing Team Members (I know you're reading this): HAVE YOU GUYS READ THE DAMN BOOK? Tanigawa may have loved it but gosh he didn't read the English version with its at least a 1,000 occurance of the racist word "Chink." Please remove this book from being associated with Haruhi, especially to English native speakers. I love Haruhi... please don't tarnish this great anime with this dumb book.

I can't even put this book on my bookshelf... damn I gotta figure out how to return this crap to Amazon...

Just in case I didn't make myself clear - don't buy this book unless you're a closet neo-nazi. If you're real otaku and only buying this crap out of love for Haruhi - don't. I can't believe I'm making comments about white supermists on a forum devoted to Haruhi... gosh, the definition of sacralige to a Haruhiist.

Reading this book has ruined my day. I'm going to go take a shower now and hopefully I can forget this book ever existed.

Eh, you visite the myspace site often? It's listed right on under Books as one of Kyon's interests. I even guessed it was "Collision with Chronos" since it was won a Japanese sci-fi award. But he confirmed it with this entry. He talked about this book for 3 blog posts straight and that's why I bought it from Amazon. What a mistake. Please do not read the book.Well, with his February 5, 2007 blog entry called "Another Morning Post," Kyon explains himself...
I noticed that someone commented on the "Collision with Chronos" book, and the racist terms used in it. I hope the reader understands the perspective that the book was written from, and that it used such terms to highlight the arrogance and stupidity of the Titans. If you got to the end of the book, this should be very clear. I certainly hope that people understand what they read and do no dismiss literature simply because of the language that it uses. I think Yuki would agree with me on this. I have a lot of faith that people that read good books and watch good television are enlightened enough to understand when an author uses such terms to make a statement, not to put down a group. Otherwise we fall prey to the worst kind of self censorship, and considering how much it seems my life is tied to literature, I think this would be a sad thing.I don't know if that helps, but oh well. :)

:cool:

Noppapana

2007-02-06, 10:10

i am kinda curios if the ASOS Brigade is aware of the hare hare yukai dance :p

Samatarou

2007-02-06, 14:39

Bandai Ent is not a subsidiary of Bandai JP--they may have some professional ties, but they have to pay Bandai JP money to get a license
That doesn't mean they're not a subsidiary. In fact being a subsidiary may mean they pay even higher licence fees than an independent company would.

Let me explain how the Japanese electronics industry works in Europe. The same model probably applies to other industries and international commerce generally.
The European distributors are wholly owned by the Japanese manufacturer. They decide what price the market will bear for the product, and the parent company then charges them a wholesale price as near as possible to that price. The distributor never makes a profit, indeed it may not even cover its costs. This way all the profits are made in by the parent in Japan, and the distributor pays no taxes to the foreign country it is based in. If the distributor were to make a profit, this would be taxed in the foreign country, and then what was left would be repatriated to the parent company in Japan where if forms part of their own profits and gets taxed again. So to avoid being taxed in the foreign country they get their profits back by onerous charges for the product which bleed the subsidiary's coffers dry. As a result unofficial (grey) imports of products are often cheaper than official ones since the official distributor is actually being charged higher prices than independent ones who may shop around for the keenest price e.g. via third parties in other countries.

Unless the US has some kind of regulations to prevent this sort of thing, I would be surprised if any of the anime subsidiaries such as Bandai or Kadokawa US are getting their anime licences for free from their parent companies, on the contrary they will be paying top dollar for them.

aegismode

2007-02-06, 17:08

Well, with his February 5, 2007 blog entry called "Another Morning Post," (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=139254574&blogID=226298388&MyToken=19619db1-4f4f-475e-a53f-9ae3612eae95) Kyon explains himself...
I don't know if that helps, but oh well. :)

:cool:

Eh, no it doesn't help. IT shows Tanigawa's ignorance. I have replied and I hope he listens to my advise - ask some one in the West to read it and tell him how they feels. This is ridiculous. I hope all of you go buy and read this fine racist literature. I tried to post some passage but reading this books again is giving me a headache. Maybe I should post on how the white Titans proudly performed genocide on all blacks, or how the Asians and American Indians are simply the "deviants" of TRUE MAN (whites) and not fully human. Every single western degrgatory stereotype or insult you can put on Asians is in the book. And to boot in the book THEY ARE ALL TRUE. I guess I was ignorant, but the Brits have way more bad things to say about the East than even the Americans.

I'm just about starting to lose faith. Maybe Haruhi-ism isn't for me. Gosh I cursed the day I bought this book - how I wished to remain blissfully ignorant.

To the Happy KadoUSA/Bandai Marketing Team: DID YOU READ IT YET? Was that YOUR response in myspace or Tanigawa's? If you have NOT read it, please someone READ IT AND TELL TANIGAWA WHAT YOU THINK OF IT. I guess nothing will change his mind about his love for the book, but my gosh people, put some perspective on it and do it more marketing sake. You do not want this book to offend anymore fans. Japanese manga-ka still draw black people in Sambo-like ways with huge lips, but they don't do it because it was racist - it's because they do not know how racist Sambo faces are to blacks. Please help educate Tanigawa-san and our sensibilities.

I'm beginning to think I'm the only person aside from Tanigawa who's read the damned book.

FatPianoBoy

2007-02-06, 19:11

Eh, no it doesn't help. IT shows Tanigawa's ignorance.

I'm failing to see the difference in the way this book uses 'Chink' and the way books like Uncle Tom's Cabin use 'the n-werd.'
But maybe I'm just showing my ignorance.

If I may inject a bit of logic into this fiasco, think about this: if this book's message is truley 'all people but white people r teh suck,' then why would an asian fellow enjoy it?
The problem here is that you are just not going to accept anyone's views but your own (ironic?) on this book. You're not even willing to agree to disagree - if people do not see this book as condoning the extermination of all things non-white, then they're simply wrong, and you must rant and rave until they see the light.

I don't usually get involved in things like this, but I'm getting sick of it popping up in here and people trying to start flamewars over it. You wanna complain about how the Japanese draw black people? Take a look at how they charicature white people, as well. Before you say it isn't the same, remember that, to them, it is.

waffo

2007-02-06, 22:02

Either something's wrong with my eyes or the myspace post about the book is gone. And it is also gone from the list of his favorite books.

NoSanninWa

2007-02-07, 01:57

It seems Kyon has caved in to peer pressure. I thought he was brave enough to stand up for his favorite books regardless of other people's harsh words, but peer pressure is a terrible force.

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2007-02-07, 02:03

It seems Kyon has caved in to peer pressure. I thought he was brave enough to stand up for his favorite books regardless of other people's harsh words, but peer pressure is a terrible force.

Peer? I didn't know the words of one person counts as peer...

I believe Kyon made the changes because he doesn't believe it is worth destroying the very thing Haruhiism stood for by turning the Myspace site into a meaningless warzone. It's unfortunate that someone who supported Haruhi would in the same time be so narrow-minded, but it is the job of the rest of us to tolerate them. We are suppose to have fun, and thanks to Kyon's kindness, we can still have fun.

aegismode

2007-02-07, 03:16

Peer? I didn't know the words of one person counts as peer...

I believe Kyon made the changes because he doesn't believe it is worth destroying the very thing Haruhiism stood for by turning the Myspace site into a meaningless warzone. It's unfortunate that someone who supported Haruhi would in the same time be so narrow-minded, but it is the job of the rest of us to tolerate them. We are suppose to have fun, and thanks to Kyon's kindness, we can still have fun.

Narrow minded? I finished the book. I'm betting you can't.

For all those want to slam me or want to defend the book please just read it first. Don't take my little words for it. Read it yourself.

I love Haruhi and Kyon as much as you guys do. It's precisely that love which prompted me to do this. Otherwise I just toss the book out and be done with. If you have read the book as I have, I'm betting most of not all of you will have the same reaction - sheild this book from Haruhi-ism.

And there was never a war zone of any kind on the myspace page. I never flamed Kyon or anyone else; just read the posts I wrote. In fact I kept defending Kyon/Tanigawa for his love of the book. I am so afraid that someone will read this book and be disgusted Haruhi/Sos-Dan as a result. Dont' believe me? Please READ THE BOOK YOURSELF!!!

I'm glad they have removed the reference to the book; maybe some of their marketing people have indeed read the book. Thank goodness.

You guys can hate me all you want; at least we are free of this controversy. If I am to take all this BS to spare one person from associating Haruhi with this racist crap, then it's all worth it. Attack away.

aegismode

2007-02-07, 03:29

I'm failing to see the difference in the way this book uses 'Chink' and the way books like Uncle Tom's Cabin use 'the n-werd.'
But maybe I'm just showing my ignorance.

If I may inject a bit of logic into this fiasco, think about this: if this book's message is truley 'all people but white people r teh suck,' then why would an asian fellow enjoy it?
The problem here is that you are just not going to accept anyone's views but your own (ironic?) on this book. You're not even willing to agree to disagree - if people do not see this book as condoning the extermination of all things non-white, then they're simply wrong, and you must rant and rave until they see the light.

I don't usually get involved in things like this, but I'm getting sick of it popping up in here and people trying to start flamewars over it. You wanna complain about how the Japanese draw black people? Take a look at how they charicature white people, as well. Before you say it isn't the same, remember that, to them, it is.

Sigh, I do not want a flame war with anyone. I want to send a message to the marketing department and this is the only way I know how. Maybe I should ask Patricia Lee to read it and have her release her anger on the marketing folks.

Before you offer me anymore of your logic, please, please just read the book first. I didn't even scratch the surface on the amount of offensive racism presented in the book. Do me a flavor, read to the very end and tell me what's the positive message the author trying to say about racism. Remember to keep an open mind because the urge to stop reading is going to be very, very strong.

As to why does Tanigawa loves it? My guess is that 1. He's reading a translated version and the language has probably changed, and 2. He's not an Asian living in the West; he has never experienced racism directed at him, thus he has no gauge on what white racism really is. For example, many Japanese in Japan has little or no issue with the word "Jap", but a Japanese-American will take great offense to it. That's why I keep asking people to stop using it, since chances are there are many manga/anime loving Japanese Americans reading these forums. To them the J word is the same as the N word.

As for the black thing, you got me all wrong here. I wasn't the one complaining, read here (http://www.comipress.com/article/2007/01/25/1399)for all the detail. In fact, I was on various places defending the Japanese manga-kas. I am totally on their side and seeing thing from their POV while some black manga fans are getting pissed. I have no issue with how the manga-ka draws white or other non-Japanese since I know they didn't draw them due to racism.

xris

2007-02-07, 04:08

OK, can we bring this discussion back on topic please :)

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2007-02-07, 04:41

Narrow minded? I finished the book. I'm betting you can't.

For all those want to slam me or want to defend the book please just read it first. Don't take my little words for it. Read it yourself.

I love Haruhi and Kyon as much as you guys do. It's precisely that love which prompted me to do this. Otherwise I just toss the book out and be done with. If you have read the book as I have, I'm betting most of not all of you will have the same reaction - sheild this book from Haruhi-ism.

And there was never a war zone of any kind on the myspace page. I never flamed Kyon or anyone else; just read the posts I wrote. In fact I kept defending Kyon/Tanigawa for his love of the book. I am so afraid that someone will read this book and be disgusted Haruhi/Sos-Dan as a result. Dont' believe me? Please READ THE BOOK YOURSELF!!!

I'm glad they have removed the reference to the book; maybe some of their marketing people have indeed read the book. Thank goodness.

You guys can hate me all you want; at least we are free of this controversy. If I am to take all this BS to spare one person from associating Haruhi with this racist crap, then it's all worth it. Attack away.

Someone who would be disgusted with SOS-dan by reading any book, even Hitler's Autobiography, is not someone I would bother to have as a member of SOS-dan.
People should be free to read books created by anyone, even if the author is the Devil himself. There are things one can learn, even from those who's beliefs don't reconcile with your own. No, I haven't read the book, but I fail to see how it matters. The book could recommend cannibalism and mass raping of babies for all I care; SOS-dan's philosophy isn't related to Yuki's read list, and those who can't see above that are shallow and undesirable.

You claim to not be one of those who disagree with the books content, and I will take your word for it. However, I believe the existence of controversial books serve to weed out those who can't make up their own minds. Free thinking is a vital part of the Haruhiism, and those who can't pass the test were never going to be Haruhiists regardless.

Noppapana

2007-02-07, 06:34

OK, can we bring this discussion back on topic please :)

solution : a new thread ?

xris

2007-02-07, 06:38

OK, let's make this clear. This is The Licensing of Haruhi Suzumiya thread, not about what books people are allowed to read :)

Can be get back on-topic please, the post by Vallen Chaos Valiant can be the last words on the topic.
solution : a new thread ?
No.

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-02-07, 15:29

i guess there's no new news on the Haruhi yet...did asosbrigade make any new announcements??
except for the first DVD release in May...i wanna know if they might bring the novels down here also....not to mention maybe the soundtracks and character CDs also...:heh:

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-07, 17:03

Exepct an announcement in a few days. Haruhi demanded another video to be made this week.

CrowKenobi

2007-02-08, 08:12

OK, let's make this clear. This is The Licensing of Haruhi Suzumiya thread, not about what books people are allowed to read :)

Can be get back on-topic please, the post by Vallen Chaos Valiant can be the last words on the topic.Is it okay to post Kyon's retraction? (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=139254574&blogID=227340265&MyToken=d0535816-d8d7-423a-95d5-89f927ef0566) He also wants to drop the subject... :D

I don't want to make a big fuss about that one particular book. I would like to make this one post and then drop the subject. It won an award here in Japan in 1990, and most of the English language reviews that I have found don't focus on that aspect of the book. In defense of the person who made the comments, I will point out that the book is not available in the US, probably because the publisher thought it best to just avoid the problem alltogether. Because this website is trying to focus on The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, I don't think it is worth trying to debate those kinds of issues here. I certainly hope that the parties involved will not leave the neat community we have built here because of this one issue. OK, I said it. I don't intend to bring it up again. I am borrowing other books on the list from Yuki and I will probably mention them when I have the time to finish all that reading. I am currently reading the Ghost in the Shell lite novels, but that is another story.

Now back on topic...

It's been quite a while since the main ASOS site was updated (I guess they're waiting for the next short video to get finished). When we see new text in the source, something new is probably on the way (but I haven't seen any yet). I'm also sure that we'll definitely hear something by the end of the month. :D

:cool:

Kensuke

2007-02-08, 15:41

I guess they're waiting for the next short video to get finished
New video should be up soon. Or then somebody will be in bunny suit.

He's busy "watching GSD7 and giving it TLC"? What's that mean? Does it have espers? Is it good to eat?? NO MATTER! If I don't see a new video within the next 12 hours I'm buying a bunny suit and stuffing someone inside it~
Perhaps the current voting was for that. :D

Dagger

2007-02-08, 23:17

The plot thickens. :heh:

CrowKenobi

2007-02-08, 23:42

^^
 <--Itsuki, anyone? :D

Ezekiel Rage

2007-02-09, 02:34

The plot thickens. :heh:

Could that "something in the sky" be the recent re-appearance of the mysterious 'Phoenix Lights'? Here's a link to the Wiki article, they were spotted again a few days ago (February 6th). As we all knopw, Haruhi love's aliens and that sort of thing :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights

Mirrinus

2007-02-09, 04:29

Well, the video for asosbrigade is up . . . important stuff in it!

Guess they were serious when they said they'd take those fan votes for voice actors into consideration...

Asrialys

2007-02-09, 05:15

They'll need someone to blame if there is negative reaction...

Just kidding...

Green²

2007-02-09, 06:04

Well, the video for asosbrigade is up . . . important stuff in it!

Guess they were serious when they said they'd take those fan votes for voice actors into consideration...

Bang Zoom? ...fired half of staff... NOOOOO! They got rid of the ninja! You bastards!

http://www.adultswim.com/shows/eureka7/stuff/videoblog/index.html

Although, I think I like where this is going.

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-02-09, 06:11

well we got what we were all waiting for
the dubbing cast
and theres no way around it in complaining about it since we all voted for who sounded the right part!!

the only useful thing in this episode was the announcement of the dubbing cast
the tour of the studio just wasted time
man i wanted to see the recording session
errr i guess we"ll have to wait until the next episode!!

Noppapana

2007-02-09, 07:11

LOL they only used the Yukis Hare hare yukai in the beginning ..

darkchibi07

2007-02-13, 07:01

New update and a new poll! I'm actually split on that one! :x

February 13, 2007 0145 PST
Nani? In America the males also give females things on Valentine's Day? What a forward-thinking society! I highly approve of this. In fact, I would like ANOTHER VIDEO! Or someone in a bunny suit. Your choice. Poll starts now :>
So cute and moe-moe... rawr, I'm starting to get ticked off...

Page source now says:

dkellis

2007-02-13, 09:27

I wonder what the "Harupedia" is supposed to be.

Also, the bunny suit option appears to be winning.

Noppapana

2007-02-13, 10:13

well the cover of the limited edition is done
if its not drawn by Noizi Ito, i wont buy it :(

Kensuke

2007-02-14, 15:16

Also, the bunny suit option appears to be winning.
Yeah, but not so much as I thought. 1100+ votes and "just" 64 % for bunny suit.
And looks like we will see something soon...
February 14, 2007 0140 PST
Our leader has left the clubhouse with all our funds to buy some supplies ^^ She said she'll be back in a few days and to thank everyone for their donations, they will be put to good use.

That girl is dangerous. And yet I am intrigued by the possibilities. No, that's wrong, I mustn't entertain such thoughts. Please stop voting for the bunny suit. We can still make a difference before she fills out the expense forms. The student council is watching the results.

Asrialys

2007-02-14, 20:59

Has anyone else noticed the text "A mysterious thing has come to LA" message above the image on the site? Has that always been there?

Noppapana

2007-02-14, 21:09

Has anyone else noticed the text "A mysterious thing has come to LA" message above the image on the site? Has that always been there?

nope they changed it with the new pic

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-18, 00:04

February 17, 2007 1855 PST
It is soon time for Chinese New Year! And how very appropriate! I am surrounded by bores. It is time to liven things up! I demand a special box by tomorrow! Or else the bores will be BUNNIES~
I N V A S I O N I N V A S I O N I N V A S I O N I N V A S I O N I N V A S I O N I N V A S I O N I N V A S I O N
ANONYMOUS> It occurs in 111 days, be ready
That last one was 1000 yesterday, so it's counting down in binary.

FatPianoBoy

2007-02-18, 00:09

The next video? Maybe this time we'll get a release date. Must preorder...

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-18, 00:13

We already have the release date...

Tokkan

2007-02-18, 00:14

The next video? Maybe this time we'll get a release date. Must preorder...

Uh... May 29th?

FatPianoBoy

2007-02-18, 00:17

Oh... :heh:
I have a hard time paying attention to those ASOS videos :(

May 29th... was there any word on if/when we can preorder? Or should I just stampede into Best Buy at 8am and hope for the best?

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-18, 00:32

You can preorder whenever Bandai puts out the official solicitations.

Asrialys

2007-02-18, 09:00

Bunny suits? DVD box art? What is it? LOL

Green²

2007-02-19, 00:02

Bunny suits? DVD box art? What is it? LOL
Could be a new advertising campaign.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9455/soscnvm4.th.gif (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soscnvm4.gif)

CrowKenobi

2007-02-19, 00:38

Could be a new advertising campaign.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9455/soscnvm4.th.gif (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=soscnvm4.gif)That is absu-f***king brilliant!! :bow: Where did you find it? And how long will Boston be shut down this time? :heh:

Edit: And we have breaking news on the ASOS site: The Adventures of the ASOS Brigade: Episode 005 World Premiere at New York Comic Con Haruhi Panel... details coming soon

Green²

2007-02-19, 02:26

That is absu-f***king brilliant!! :bow: Where did you find it? And how long will Boston be shut down this time? :heh:
It being a quick shop of course as to what I thought they were planning. But, if I'm correct, and Bang Zoom does go through with it, Boston will probably be shut down for probably quite some time. Not that Boston wouldn't get fooled twice, but that some wing-nuts will interpret the SOS logo as meaning of something of a call for help, or 9/11. Which when they then do some background research on the SOS logo, thus will point them to Haruhi. ...and to somehow, this picture (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8277/haruhigazacd0.jpg). (Google Haruhi and terrorist.) And Iran gets the blame in the end. (Google Haruhi and Iran (Probably about how 99% of the US government intel operates.))

But the marketing & advertising would be great. Come on Bang Zoom! You know you want to. :D

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-19, 02:32

A few more updates.

Including the box, and what the last source code comments were talking about.

Asrialys

2007-02-19, 04:31

A few more updates.

Including the box, and what the last source code comments were talking about.
Was there an image or was it supposed to not show? lol

Dagger

2007-02-19, 07:57

I'm thinking it wasn't supposed to show, haha. Blame Tsuruya. :p

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-19, 08:55

You did see a little bit of it.

And apparently it was Churuya that posted the box, not Tsuruya (and blame the guys in the source code)

Asrialys

2007-02-19, 11:23

Was that it? I thought it was a pixilized cat...

But if that really is it, then it seems to come with a long-sleeve (bleh) shirt?

Green²

2007-02-19, 11:54

Was that it? I thought it was a pixilized cat...

But if that really is it, then it seems to come with a long-sleeve (bleh) shirt?

It kind of looks like Tsuruya in a bunny suit, groping an rather uncomfortable Mikuru, (Mikuru at right) while holding a really large microphone up to Mikuru. Unoptimized still below:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5955/bigmicrophoneyeszf8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Asrialys

2007-02-19, 12:57

It kind of looks like Tsuruya in a bunny suit, groping an rather uncomfortable Mikuru, (Mikuru at right) while holding a really large microphone up to Mikuru. Unoptimized still below:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5955/bigmicrophoneyeszf8.gif (http://imageshack.us)
LOL What's going on in your imagination?

LumpOfCole

2007-02-19, 16:43

I say it looks like a blurry turtle tank.

quigonkenny

2007-02-19, 18:38

Just looks like a pink blob to me. I'll have to check it when I get back to work. Darn mobile phone browser.

I must say, though, assuming the ADR guys have as good a handle on Tsuruya-san as the website guys do, I'm suddenly less worried about her complete lack of presence in the AnimeTV sneak preview.

FatPianoBoy

2007-02-19, 18:42

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5955/bigmicrophoneyeszf8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Churuya displaying the first volume DVD?

Dagger

2007-02-19, 21:17

February 19, 2007 1800 PST
Wha... WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? Laundry lint? Last week's bento set?! This is a mockery! It is time for DIVINE PUNISHMENT. bunny... Bunny... BUNNY!!! SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE BUNNY!!!

Green²

2007-02-19, 22:50

LOL What's going on in your imagination?
God knows. :innocent:

February 19, 2007 1800 PST
Wha... WHAT THE HECK IS THAT? Laundry lint? Last week's bento set?! This is a mockery! It is time for DIVINE PUNISHMENT. bunny... Bunny... BUNNY!!! SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE BUNNY!!!



Are the keywords above within source code new?
(the greatest anime of all time) :p

Asrialys

2007-02-19, 23:03

Are the keywords above within source code new?
(the greatest anime of all time) :p
As far as I know, that's been there since the beginning.

CrowKenobi

2007-02-20, 02:58

NEW POLL!! (but it's between Haruhi and Kyon viewing order again) <vote Kyon! ;) >

and the latest source code text:
















 :cool:

quigonkenny

2007-02-20, 03:08

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5955/bigmicrophoneyeszf8.gif (http://imageshack.us)
Well...

It appears to be mostly blue, with flaps, and a lot of SOS団 stickers.

I'm wondering about the flaps... Unfolded box? Photoshop accident? Diorama?

Asrialys

2007-02-20, 03:40

Well...

It appears to be mostly blue, with flaps, and a lot of SOS団 stickers.

I'm wondering about the flaps... Unfolded box? Photoshop accident? Diorama?
Are we all looking at something different? lol Or is this all just wishful thinking and you're seeing what you want to see?

I'm not familiar with past adverstising strategies for anime, but this may be the most work put into an American release of an anime. lol

Canbacon

2007-02-20, 03:45

To me it kind of looks like it could be a model of the SOS club room.

CrowKenobi

2007-02-20, 11:37

It looks like to me that on the left is the first volume of the DVD, the rear is the box itself, in front looks like it could be an extra (quite possibly the 'Ultra Director' or 'Brigade Chief' armband) and I can't even begin to see what extra could be on the right.

:cool:

Asrialys

2007-02-20, 21:30

The ASOS Brigade website has been updated with info on the Haruhi Panel at New York's Comic-Con. "The Box" is one of the things they might be going over. I wanna see!

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-21, 02:07

This doesn't look good... (for them at least)

Asrialys

2007-02-21, 02:22

You know, they're showing episode 5 at Comic-Com on the 24th. Does that mean two videos within the next three days? Maybe a new one tonight?

GyroidFanatic

2007-02-21, 03:18

You know, they're showing episode 5 at Comic-Com on the 24th. Does that mean two videos within the next three days? Maybe a new one tonight?
Keep in mind this is Haruhi we're talking about. Nothing says they'll show them all in order.

Tokkan

2007-02-21, 03:20

Keep in mind this is Haruhi we're talking about. Nothing says they'll show them all in order.

Odd, I could've sworn I posted that same fact in this thread about half an hour ago... must've been an error because my post is not here. Though my exact words were "Have you considered they might not show them in order?".

Green²

2007-02-21, 09:52

These people are perverted.
And Kyon will get the Bunny suit? :heh:

Asrialys

2007-02-21, 12:13

These people are perverted.
And Kyon will get the Bunny suit? :heh:
You're the pervert for pointing it out. lol I wouldn't have noticed otherwise.

Shii

2007-02-21, 23:15

You did see a little bit of it.

And apparently it was Churuya that posted the box, not Tsuruya (and blame the guys in the source code)

"I haves fingers nyoro~!"

I am quite amused by this. I hope they include Churuya references on the DVD.

Asrialys

2007-02-22, 01:54

Would they be allowed to? At least not without permission from the creator.

FatPianoBoy

2007-02-22, 11:52

Would they be allowed to? At least not without permission from the creator.

They may already have it :heh:

CrowKenobi

2007-02-23, 15:42

New source code!






















Something's going to go down... :D

"imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" --Does that mean that they're going to put some kind of Haruhi figure in the box?

Edit: I'd also like to point out that I've voted three times in the current poll! I have no idea what's going on with the site (or even if it's on my end), but it sure is strange. :hmm:

Edit 2: The February 18 and 19 posts are missing letters, and I wonder what this "comments section" that Haruhi mentions in the 24th post...

I'm also wondering if episode 5 of the ASOS Brigade is going to be a 'live' show...

:cool:

CrowKenobi

2007-02-24, 14:54

Source code update...




This is what's left.

The fine folks at the animeondvd.com forums have figured out that the missing letters spell: LANDING SITE PREPARED :confused:

Coming up to three hours to go... 6-7 pm EASTERN STANDARD TIME

:cool:

Noppapana

2007-02-24, 20:26

Hey looks! Someone left the club computer unattended nyoro~!

Everyone left me to go to some fancy event... Why donts we have some fun together!

WTH ... Tsuruya-san was the invader ???

FatPianoBoy

2007-02-24, 20:40

WTH ... Tsuruya-san was the invader ???

I think this is probably an unrelated event. Everyone else went to the big thing at Comic-con and left Tsuruya behind, so she decided to screw with their stuff to get back at them ;)

Setsuna Asuka

2007-02-24, 20:44

http://www.animeonline.com/index.php?page=news_details&action=details&id=100612

Not bad, though I'm expecting whining as usual<_<

Noppapana

2007-02-24, 21:04

http://www.animeonline.com/index.php?page=news_details&action=details&id=100612

Not bad, though I'm expecting whining as usual<_<

soo they just keep the original cover art of Noizi Ito