Licensed To Terra.. (TV Series!) [Archive]

monir

2007-01-12, 22:43

There are some info's regarding the staff as posted in NeoSam's (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=795604&postcount=1192) post.

Broadcast: April 2007

Original Work: Takemiya Keiko
Director: Yamasaki Osamu
Mecha Design: Izubuchi Yutaka
Character Design: Yuki Nobuteru
Animation Production: Minami-Machi Bugyousho

Since this is a remake of the 1980 movie, I believe the short synopsis from the movie in the following is pertinent; courtesy of ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=1407):

Light-years from Earth, where every aspect of life is controlled by the great master computer, if you are a Psychic (called a MU) you're dead. Hunted tirelessly, the MU have been hiding for centuries from the general populace.

MrProphet

2007-01-13, 00:27

Well, I am a big fan of Yutaka Izubuchi ever since Char's Counterattack, so I will be eagerly following his mecha hear as well.

solomon

2007-01-13, 02:06

Sounds like some good old 70s style SF and the staff roster seems interesting.

wao

2007-01-13, 06:37

So that's what Minami-machi Bugyousho's new project was going to be!! I remember visiting their BBS after their surprisingly nice Mushishi episodes (I think two episodes were outsourced to them?). Osamu Yamazaki is the studio head I believe. Coincidentially - this is just from memory so it might be wrong - I think Nobuteru Yuki also helped them out greatly on their 2nd Mushishi episode. I think they haven't produced a show of their own since some obscure OVAs in the 80s though, so this must be quite a challenge for them. Here's hoping they do well.

And they must have definitely done something good to get onto this project, working with people like Izubuchi and adapting what if I'm not wrong is a relatively well-loved manga.

NeoSam

2007-01-24, 18:44

Read and hear about To Terra... from MangaCast:
http://community.livejournal.com/mangacast/459135.html

Kaioshin Sama

2007-01-24, 19:27

Does this have anything to do with Gone With The Wind? Oh wait that's Tara.

solomon

2007-01-25, 04:12

Well at least that podcast was relatively informative without being too spoilery
Overall, this show sounds very intruiging to me based off the source material, sounds a little like Ideon to me. A lot of old school SF anime tend to recycle themes but they have this very solid storytelling that I enjoy, a very detailed sense of plot development/world view/character development that is detailed but not unreasonable or pretentious (a bit of a problem in this post eva world). Nobuteru Yuuki should be a perfect fit for the series design as would Izubuchi's mechs. What will make or break this show is the characterization.

So that's this, Denno Coli, Skull Man, Gurren Lagann...boy better leave at that, college seriously cuts into anime viewing time:heh:

7Th

2007-02-07, 08:38

First look at Yuuki's designs:

http://img25.imagevenue.com/loc168/th_46249_terra_122_168lo.jpg (http://img25.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc168&image=46249_terra_122_168lo.jpg)

solomon

2007-02-07, 12:55

Cool, ever scince the esca movie, Yuuki has made great designs. Traditional anime but styliztically very uniqely his own just like Kenichi Yoshida.

MrProphet

2007-02-07, 13:09

That's very old school. Very "80's". But at the same time, quite intricate.

tugatosmk

2007-02-07, 16:03

Looks interesting. :)

Trivia: "Terra" is Earth in Portuguese.

solomon

2007-02-07, 17:04

That's very old school. Very "80's". But at the same time, quite intricate.

Interesting take, His stuff post esca looks like a modern more ornate version of Akio Sugino to me (Aim for the Ace, Rose of Versailles) and it fits very well here.

7Th

2007-02-07, 18:18

So that's this, Denno Coli, Skull Man, Bokurano, Darker than Black, Romeo X Juliet, Seirei no Moribito, Gurren Lagann...boy better leave at that, college seriously cuts into anime viewing time:heh:

Fixed, LOL.

Shinndou

2007-02-07, 18:50

Looks interesting. :)

Trivia: "Terra" is Earth in Portuguese.

It's the same for Italian as well. It's a neo-latin term.

tugatosmk

2007-02-08, 14:30

It's the same for Italian as well. It's a neo-latin term.

Neo-latin, eh? I always had that impression as well. :)

NoSanninWa

2007-02-08, 17:40

It's not just "neo-latin." The word Terra is latin and it is used in this title for a very specific reason:

It is the standard used to mark Earth on language-independent starmaps.

MrProphet

2007-02-08, 19:48

Well, it's actually much more simple than that.

The word "terra" means "land" or "earth" in Latin, thus most Romance languages (like French, Italian or Spanish, which are descended from Latin Vulgate) also inherited this word.

Shinndou

2007-02-08, 21:13

Terra
Terrae
Terrae
Terram
Terra
Terra

Although it's been years since I studied latin at high school I still remember most of it. ;P

aardvark

2007-02-09, 00:40

The website for To Terra has gone live http://terra-e.com/

A full staff list is also available:

Director: Osamu Yamazaki
Script: Yutaka Izubuchi, Dai Sato, Hiroshi Ohnogi, Satoru Nishizono, Miho Sakai, Saizo Nemoto
Character Designer: Nobuteru Yuuki
Concept Design: Yutaka Izubuchi
Mecha Design: Yasushi Ishizu, Takayuki Yanase, Hideyuki Matsumoto
Art director: Shunichiro Yoshiwara
Color design: Yuko Kanemaru
Director of Photography: Takeshi Hirooka
Music: Yasuharu Takanashi
Animation Production: Minamimachi Bugyousho, Tokyo Kids
Production: Mainichi Broadcasting System (MBS), Sky Perfect Well Think Co., Ltd., Aniplex

Writers revealed finally. Wasn't expecting Dai Sato, as much as I like his works as lead writer, I think he turns in better scripts when he's not in charge. Izubuchi writing here too, as well as on Skullman, same for Ohnogi. Don't have much to say about the other three.

solomon

2007-02-09, 02:00

Only way the work of this script team could be screwed up is intense meddling on the networks part, Sato's work on Ergo Proxy kicked major ass and Ohnogi is one of the original Studio Nue peeps so this should turn out pretty darn interesting especially given the strong source material.

BluWacky

2007-02-09, 02:25

Terra
Terrae
Terrae
Terram
Terra
Terra

What kind of order is that? Nom, Gen, Dat, Acc, Voc, Abl? Weird...

(just finished a classics degree don'tchaknow)

Anyway, Dai Sato is a bit iffy (I thought his Ergo episodes were frequently the weakest) but if Izubuchi's doing some of the writing too there should be some decent stuff in there (along with the other writers whose names I don't immediately recognise).

wao

2007-02-09, 02:54

Yes, I agree Dai Sato does better work when he's not the series composer.. but still, I'm a little apprehensive. More than that though, I'm not too happy about Hiroshi Ohnogi doing the writing, I don't usually like his 'serious' stuff. I remember not particularly liking the eps of Noein that he scripted, for most of them. He can't even beat Kawamori in writing when it came to Aquarion (for the most part, I think).

Don't know much about scriptwriters but I remember Saizo Nemoto did the recent Tokyo Majin Gakuen Kenpucho (well, not like that's a good thing in terms of scriptwriting...), but Satoru Nishizono did NHK ni Youkoso, which I did like the script of - although how much of it is due to him and how much due to the manga, I'm not sure.

And ack, Tokyo Kids? That's worrying, and at the same time I'm incredibly surprised that people like Izubuchi and Sato and a major station like MBS are giving these two studios such a big chance.

aardvark

2007-02-09, 03:33

He can't even beat Kawamori in writing when it came to Aquarion (for the most part, I think).

To be fair and as much as I liked it, I don't think Aquarion is good gauge to judge the general writing of ANYONE who participated in it :heh:

Though I generally really like Ohnogi's work, so I can't say his appearance here bothers me, exactly the opposite actually.

Satoru Nishizono did NHK ni Youkoso, which I did like the script of - although how much of it is due to him and how much due to the manga, I'm not sure.
The anime diverged QUITE a bit from the manga. If you liked the second half of the show writing wise, you can probably attribute that to him and not the manga.

MrProphet

2007-02-09, 10:48

Sato and Ohnogi in addition to Izubuchi?

What is this, studio Sunrise Old Boy Network reunion? 8)

Shinndou

2007-02-09, 10:57

What kind of order is that? Nom, Gen, Dat, Acc, Voc, Abl? Weird...

(just finished a classics degree don'tchaknow)

Yep. That's the way I've been taught all of the declensions at both middle and high school (for a total of around 7 years of latin, ouch). Which is one of the first things that come to my mind everytime I tyr to remember some of my rusty latin knowledge since it's something that one usually learns by heart. :heh:

7Th

2007-02-09, 16:47

To Terra's promotional poster:

http://img151.imagevenue.com/loc36/th_55266_terra_e_122_36lo.jpg (http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc36&image=55266_terra_e_122_36lo.jpg)

BluWacky

2007-02-09, 18:48

To Terra's promotional poster:

http://img151.imagevenue.com/loc36/th_55266_terra_e_122_36lo.jpg (http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc36&image=55266_terra_e_122_36lo.jpg)

It's English! Actual, honest to god English! Where did they steal it from?

Also, ataraxia = tranquility in Greek. Nifty.

Shinndou

2007-02-09, 19:28

Oh my, a non-engrish description? It's as if they knew that there's also foreign people interested in this show besides the japanese audience. :eyebrow:

MrProphet

2007-02-09, 19:35

http://img151.imagevenue.com/loc36/th_55266_terra_e_122_36lo.jpg (http://img151.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc36&image=55266_terra_e_122_36lo.jpg)

This description sounds a lot like Logan's Run.

Post-apocalyptic society, system of rigid social control, main hero becoming an outcast and seeking a legendary Sanctuary where he and others like him can be free.

Which is good, mind you. It's a good story, let's see how they execute is with space travel and robots. 8)

duckroll

2007-02-13, 05:31

The official website is finally back after Aniplex took it down when they realized it wasn't ready to public release. The only differences seem to be that they have added one more writer to the staff page and removed Keith's design from the characters page. I wonder what's up.

Anyway the additional writer is Shigeru Morita. He's done a ton of work for SEED, SEED-D, Stargazer and the Astray spin-offs, as well as a bunch of Blood+ eps. I wonder why this show has so many goddamn writers in the first place. ^^;

wao

2007-02-13, 10:43

I sincerely hope it isn't a case of too many cooks spoiling the broth... At least, I just hope whoever's in charge of this makes sure that the writing is generally consistent (though I get a feeling it won't be, anyway). Sometimes just having two writers that are significantly different in familiarity with the characters/story or in skill level can make a show go somewhat bipolar...

I don't know much about scriptwriters but I think I've watched enough to vaguely grasp certain groupings like the type of people Dai Sato hang out with and the type the I.G. writers hang out with (well actually, they hang out with each other, I think). But this combination strikes me as a bit unusual, I wonder who picked them? Or how they're linked?

And holy carp, it's really English! I remember something about Dai Sato's company frognation having an office in the UK and dealing with English-related things too, they have English staff I think... (I might be wrong on this) Maybe he got one of them to proofread the article. I think that chunk might rank among one of the best English texts I have ever seen on a Japanese site for an anime. It actually sounds perfectly normal.

By the way, forgive me if this has been answered before but... so is this going to be a doroku anime or not?

MrProphet

2007-02-13, 11:22

Yes. To Terra will be replacing Ayakashi Ayashi in the 18:00 Saturday timeslot on TBS/MBS station.

PS: See, I even explained the "doroku" thing before people asked. 8)

duckroll

2007-02-13, 11:30

I think wao was asking if it's been officially confirmed. The answer to that would be no. Aniplex and MBS/TBS are definitely skirting around the issue right now because any official indication that Ayakashi Ayakashi has been cancelled would only make the ratings for the remainder of the episodes plunge even further.

brightman

2007-02-13, 12:00

Sonhex

2007-02-14, 10:58

Cast info from ANS:

Mitsuki Saiga as Jomy Mark Shin
Ai Orikasa as Mother Computer
Marina Inoue as Seki Leigh Shiroei
Norio Wakamoto as Narration
Sanae Kobayashi as Physis
Takehito Koyasu as Keith Anyan
Tomokazu Sugita as Soldier Blue
Daisuke Namikawa as Leo
Juurouta Kosugi as Harley
Wataru Hatano as Sam Houston
Yukana as Jomy's mother.

Dagger

2007-02-14, 12:41

Mitsuki Saiga!!!!!! Sanae Kobayashi!!! Tomokazu Sugita!!

This series just shot WAY up on my to-watch list. *is giddy*

MrProphet

2007-02-14, 15:28

Yes, that's a very cool cast. A good combination of solid male baritone and cute girly girls. 8)

wao

2007-02-14, 17:54

Mitsuki Saiga?

Takehito Koyasu?

Daisuke Namikawa?

Juurouta Kosugi?

Norio Wakamoto? (even if it's just the narration)

Oh god, as if I didn't have enough shows to watch already as it is...

duckroll

2007-02-27, 14:46

http://www.mbs.jp/terra-e/

http://www.mbs.jp/terra-e/images/index_0302.jpg

MrProphet

2007-02-27, 14:47

7Th

2007-02-27, 15:39

The new MBS (http://www.mbs.jp/terra-e/) website for Toward the Terra (official English name) reveals some more of the imagery of this new anime.

There's no more information there, but I must say that the coloring style of the two main character is peculiar. I must say that it looks rather strange to me. Very unlike Nobuteru Yuki, who, in my opinion, specializes more in vibrant colors.

Well, we'll see in April.

I actually really like the color scheme, seems on line with Yuuki's work on the Escaflowne movie, which was visually superior to the TV series.

http://members.aol.com/LongZhu/Movie4.jpg

Also: good to know AA is getting the axe. ;)

MrProphet

2007-02-27, 16:02

I actually really like the color scheme, seems on line with Yuuki's work on the Escaflowne movie, which was visually superior to the TV series.

Blasphemy!!!! 8)

Esca movie castrated a genius TV series. It was cinematic and, naturally, had a bigger budget, but that's all.

7Th

2007-02-27, 16:24

Blasphemy!!!! 8)

Esca movie castrated a genius TV series. It was cinematic and, naturally, had a bigger budget, but that's all.

Which is why I said visually. :heh: The TV series in better in everything but animation, cinematography and character design.

musouka

2007-02-27, 20:30

One of my favorite sci-fi manga getting the anime treatment. I'm still a little confused over why--yeah, yeah, 30th anniversary, but still--but I'm still completely stoked. It's also...kinda nice to see there's a decent amount of buzz for it.

duckroll

2007-03-03, 04:45

http://www.famitsu.com/anime/news/2007/02/28/681,1172673920,67825,0,0.html

Pics! More designs! The entire production looks really retro, nice to see the style still remaining. Hopefully the animation quality is up to standards. :D

MrProphet

2007-03-03, 06:45

As I've mentioned above, the color shading style somewhat disturbs me. Although not in that bad of a way.

But it does seem extremely retro, just as you say. I am guessing that Izubuchi and folks were reminiscing about the good old days... 8)

wao

2007-03-03, 10:12

Whoa, that definitely has a retro feel to it. I don't mind it, except that for such designs to be rendered in consistent detail the actual movement will probably end up being sacrificed, which is something you'd probably get with detail-heavy designs like Yuki's I guess...

I'm a little worried as to how well this'll get animated, but I ought to wait and see what happens first of course.

But my first reaction really was - waitasecond, did I just see Dianna Soriel there for a moment? - at the second picture...

Dagger

2007-03-03, 10:30

After reading Vertical's translation of the first volume of the manga, I'm even more excited about this series. It's an amazing story--they'd have to work really hard to screw it up.

Are they basing the hair colors etc. on color art from the manga (which I have not seen any of yet)? For some reason I pictured almost all of them as having different hair colors from what they actually got, haha. Silver for Physis, a slightly bluer color for Soldier Blue (lol), dirty blond for Sam... but I can live with this. :p

Oh, and I really like how they've adapted the clothing designs. Nice.

MrProphet

2007-03-03, 11:13

But my first reaction really was - waitasecond, did I just see Dianna Soriel there for a moment? - at the second picture...

She does looks like the queen from Turn-A. But older. 8)

musouka

2007-03-03, 12:46

Those designs are drop dead gorgeous. What a way to update the feel of the original while still being true to its roots. Man, I'm really looking forward to this!

wao

2007-03-03, 12:50

She does looks like the queen from Turn-A. But older. 8)

Well, for that matter I loved Turn-A's designs and Dianna and Kihel (and heck, half of the Turn-A cast) are some of my most favourite anime characters so... it can never be a bad thing. Yay.

I wonder how long it's been since we last saw an anime with Nobuteru Yuki's original designs, btw? It's as if recently he's been doing more cleanups of existing designs or animation director work (I was so surprised that he appeared in Mushishi of all shows, and didn't make his style obvious in the least bit!)

MrProphet

2007-03-03, 13:54

I wonder how long it's been since we last saw an anime with Nobuteru Yuki's original designs, btw? It's as if recently he's been doing more cleanups of existing designs or animation director work (I was so surprised that he appeared in Mushishi of all shows, and didn't make his style obvious in the least bit!)

Original in what sense? Meaning, not based on someone else's work?

GUNNM - Kishiro
Angel Cop - Kitazaki
Clover - Mokona
X - ditto Mokona
Five Star Stories - Mamoru Nagano
Paradise kiss - Yazawa
Harlock - Reiji Matsumoto
Xenosaga - NAMCO
Toward the Terra - Keiko Takemiya

Those are his adapted works (and original creators). And here are his original works:

Cleopatra DC (1989)
Lodoss-tou Senki (1990)
Sukeban Deka (1991)
Weathering Continent (1992)
Tenkuu no Escaflowne (1996)
Heat Guy J (2002)

So, the answer to your question is, I believe, 2002.

wao

2007-03-07, 22:07

Thanks. So it's been 5 years... well that's not bad or anything.

BTW, news from Newtype - first OP will be by UVERworld, ED by Kamiya Kato.

ZOOMGJ! UVERworld! I love D-tecnoLife and Colors of the Heart like mad, so this will be great news. Although I hope they give it a worthy OP animation sequence (which CotH definitely had - but not D-tL)

It will be 26 eps. Thank goodness - no need to drag it out over 50+. Now somebody who has got this month's Newtype, do scan in the spread for it's done by Yuki himself and I'm sure it will please the Nobuteru Yuki fans ITT. (I'm getting Animage, which also has a spread... but it'll only arrive in Kino's in about a week's time :/)

Destinyblade

2007-03-08, 20:27

It will be 26 eps. Thank goodness - no need to drag it out over 50+.

I don't think they could make it 50 episodes, even if they wanted to. I think there's only two or three volumes of the Terra e manga at most, so that could possibly cover all 26 episodes or maybe just the majority of it. I think when MBS aired Fullmetal Alchemist, there was about only three volumes of the manga out, and they managed to follow the manga until about FMA's mid-way point.

Of course, the main reason it's only going to be 26 episodes is probably due to what's rumored to replace it in October (Gundam).

As for the OP/ED Artists...

OP - I think it may feel kinda weird that a series that was originally created in the 1980s will get artist tie-ups because it's on MBS. Still, UVERWorld doing the opening theme is always a good thing. I didn't enjoy D-Tecnolife as much, but I was really impressed with Colors of the Heart, which was the 3rd OP for Blood+. Hopefully, UVERWorld can create another good song for Terra e.

ED - Kamiya Kato... I don't recognize this one. A new artist making a debut, perhaps?

Sonhex

2007-03-11, 13:56

Short PV here (http://www.terra-e.com/index_special.html) (IE/WMP only) or Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omo3q7SkVzo) (courtesy of Manuloz). Some yummy shots and the mecha are not CG, yay. Brief but looking promising :p

MrProphet

2007-03-11, 15:36

I didn't know there'd be mecha (as in, robots) in this one. I guess that's what they needed Izubuchi for. 8)

7Th

2007-03-14, 09:30

solomon

2007-03-14, 11:20

The trailer, looks visually average, with somewhat decent yet really boring photography and average motion management. The editing is also pretty uninspired. Not that you can made up much from that short video. I'm watching this for plot rather than animation, nevertheless.

Ah, that's ok. Even if the show could be a little static, it'll be nice if the show is well drawn overall. The nice thing about the digital coloring and effects is that it still holds visual interest to compensate for sparse (by comparison) animation. I think stuff like e7 and GITS SAC spoil us sometimes with their great character movement cause there really are only a few people (in relation to the sheer number of character artists) who can move characters well in anime, at least from what i've seen.

Really only 26? Well, we should get some nicely packed story then. I wouldn't be surprised if that rumored Mizushima gundam series is in the works and slated for this timeslot afterwards...(how do networks manage show planning anywhos?)

wao

2007-03-14, 11:44

Fourteen seconds?! Oh well. I kind of agree with 7th in that it's not got anything that really amazes me, but well, I remember how I was so excited after watching Eureka 7's trailer only to get ultimately disappointed in the end (although it definitely had very, very good production values). If anything I'm not particularly impressed by the colour scheme, especially with those explosions, but I guess I'm just spoiled in that aspect.

I think I'd be following it more for the plot than anything too, but this makes it a bit harder for me to enjoy because if they develop the characters in a typically anime-like way or don't portray them in a genuinely convincing way, I'll probably lose interest. (Which is rather unfair since I can make myself enjoy shows that do that anyway, but let's say I don't really have a "hook" for this show)

Anyway, I won't be holding my hopes up too high on the production aspect of it since the studios involved are not primarily production studios - but I would love to be surprised, of course. Nothing particularly outstanding so far for me anyway, I guess... but I do like the fact that the mecha is hand-drawn too.

solomon

2007-03-15, 00:26

A tad off topic, I saw the first 5 minutes of the original anime film on Youtube and the films original theatrical trailer (seems suprisingly well done for an old toei douga film in that it ACTUALLY LOOKS WELL PRODUCED :p ) and read a review at anime jump that went a little bit into the story. Im definetly interested in the show now. good old fashioined epic space opera, just like the good ol days (and im not even that old:D )
Plus seeing the mangaka's original designs, i appreciate Yuuki's adaptions all the more, perfect balance of the source material and his own style.

Iwanihana

2007-03-15, 01:55

Those ships in the trailer reminds me of good old 'Legend of Galactic Heroes'. A bit sad that shows like LoGH are not produced anymore...

By the way, I have set up a blog dedicated to Toward the Terra / To Terra / Terra E (has fandom settled on an abbreviated way of calling the show yet?) here (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/). Please feel free to drop by.

Iwanihana

2007-03-16, 00:06

A scan from the April issue of Animage which you can see here (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/03/image_a_scan_fr.html).

Dagger

2007-03-16, 00:09

Keith looks the most different from his manga design IMO. Still a very good adaptation artistically, though.

EricMontreal22

2007-03-16, 04:48

None of you have seen the original film? It holds up well (better IMHO than a similar film aroudn the same time also based on a space opera by a shoujo manga-ka goddess--They Were 11) I have a commercial video iof it and onlywatched it twice and have to admit story wise the second half almost completely loses me--you can tell there was too much story compressed into the film and it was made with the intention manga fans would read it.

Here's the youtube clip mentioned already: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHcE8W79wSQ (I can't find the movie trailer clip...)

(I'm sure mos tof you knwo the controversy on the English version of the manga--Takemiya is one of the infamous 49ers shoujo manga-kas, the first really important female manga writers, and is most famous for her gothic shone ai romance Song of Wind and Trees/Kaze to Kino Uta--anyway she was amazingly, for the time, able to cross over and have success in shonen magazines too--with Terra E being the example of this--but the ENglish publishers are advertising it as a shoujo work even though technically it's not--I think it's a good example of a more shoujo-esque take ona shonen format myself--but regardless it's a classic for a reason)

someone said:
"I don't think they could make it 50 episodes, even if they wanted to. I think there's only two or three volumes of the Terra e manga at most, so that could possibly cover all 26 episodes or maybe just the majority of it. I think when MBS aired Fullmetal Alchemist, there was about only three volumes of the manga out, and they managed to follow the manga until about FMA's mid-way point."

Terra E is being published in 3 English mangas but each volume is a bunko--the JAapanese format of putting two Tankoubons into one vol--so really it would be more a 6 volume work--each of the english volumes is nearly 400 pages. So it's not massive but it definetly is epic and I think 26 eps would suit it well-0-like I said the *long* movie gets a viewer lost

E

Iwanihana

2007-03-17, 07:16

A new trailer has just been uploaded to the official website, not that a heck of a lot of new footage is shown though.

Ayu-ayu

2007-03-19, 19:09

7Th

2007-03-19, 20:08

A new trailer has just been uploaded to the official website, not that a heck of a lot of new footage is shown though.

YouTube? :p

solomon

2007-03-19, 22:24

Ayu-ayu

2007-03-20, 20:09

Haha that's a funny description, alotta kadokawa films like that? Only film studio I'm familiar with is Toho (for one big green scaly reason of course:p )

Anyway's looks kinda cool, got 999 movie vibes looking at it, apparently it was directed by a famous movie director.........Masami Suda's designs look wierd though.
At anyrate, when will this damned new season start!!

Yeah, I suppose it may have been more just true with older anime features in general (like the Matsumoto stuff), but Kadokawa-produced films (mostly through the 80's) always seemed to be these lengthy epics which would let the story meander all over the place and have really well-budgeted production quality--whether anime (i.e. Dagger of Kamui, Arislan, etc.--even later stuff like the X movie seem to still evoke a lot of the same values) or live action (such as Heaven and Earth, which was filmed in Canada because Japan didn't have enough open space for the big battles). As such, a lot of my fellow oldschool anime fan friends tend to nostalgically refer to these sorts of epics as Kadokawa-esque. :D

Iwanihana

2007-03-20, 23:42

I just came across an interesting point made by a Japanese fan:

Since Physis is blind, the clothes she wears is chosen according to whose taste?

The dress she wears in the official images we have seen so far looks as though it is about to fall off at any time. Any take on that?

MrProphet

2007-03-21, 10:40

Since Physis is blind, the clothes she wears is chosen according to whose taste?

Why not her own? Blind people retain the sense of touch.

BatAttack

2007-03-21, 20:24

A sense of touch is not really enough to determine what you will look like wearing it.. Someone who has always been blind will not really have much concept of visual styles... ie, clothes that look elegant, or that make you look dumpy, etc.

Also, they would not be able to colour coordiante..

MrProphet

2007-03-21, 20:33

I thought we were talking about fashion of clothing, not color coordination (which is meaningless to the blind).

And, anyway, "It's anime!" (c)

orion

2007-03-21, 20:46

Color may be meaningless if you're blind, but she still would have to look presentable to those that have sight. So, someone has to be helping her out imo.

Maybe, we'll find out in the series if they covered that aspect of Physis' personal life.

EricMontreal22

2007-03-23, 03:00

I saw it many years ago, I remember it was a very "Kadokawa-esque" production, very long and convoluted and quite pretty. Also I seem to vaguely remember a surprising amount of uncensored male nudity--rare for anime then--near the beginning, lol. I think the comparison to Logan's Run is pretty fitting for what I remember of the atmosphere of the film.

"Kaze to Ki no Uta" was perhaps one of the first examples I'd ever heard of shounen-ai back in the mid-80's. I never saw the anime adaptation, but saw a little bit of the manga once. I know a local shop that might still have a copy for rental after all these years, may have to check it out sometime just for historical reference, lol.

I believe both these works were mentioned favorably in Fred Schodt's classic book, "Manga, Manga". :)

Yeah Manga Manga has frames from both in their section on shoujo manga--which is one reason I think both have made an impression in my mind (since I read Manga Manga when I was 12 or so, very early 90s, before I could actuallys ee much of this stuff for myself). The Kaze anime was an OAV--and is worth tracking down--it's been fansubed too. It's very very melodramatic (but I admit i love old school anime melodramatics whether in space opera or early shonen ai).

The other Takemiya works that have been adapted to anime are an OAV of Adromeda Stories (a space opera involving incest between a prince and princess in space--that's the only sotry I've been able to find, since the anime is near impossible to find raw or subed--but the same publishers of the English Terra manga are releasing the manga in September) and La Porte a L'Ete (which was kinda prototype for Kaze to Kino Uta with the shonen ai being relagted to a subplot but otherwise very similar). That one has been subed.

And yea--the anime of Terra had a brief shower scene in the first 10 mins though the actual *detail* of the anatomy isn't drawn so clearly most woul dbe offended... It's an itneresting anime--I tried to rwewatch my tape again but the tracking nhas gone all off and it now jitters near nonstop--I'm looking forward to finally learning the full unedited story from the new TV anime and the English manga translations.

I think comparing it to Mtsumoto's 999 is apt--I'm sure, while they're from virtually the same era, that was an inspiration. (and really the melodramatic angst from those comics isn't very different from the more shoujo-esque angst from Takemiya)

Iwanihana

2007-03-24, 10:08

They have just uploaded a new trailer at the official site. Unfortunately, the images are the same as the first one they uploaded, though what is said is different (basically we have Soldier Blue saying that he will not live long and he wants Jomy to return to Terra).

Katapan

2007-03-24, 15:32

Here's the trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UWHC9fmo0I) from TAF.

Not many new scenes there, it's mostly some of the manga being shown plus the three short promos available on the website. You can hear more of the OP (UVERworld's endscape) at the end though, which makes me look forward to hearing the TV version even more.

Iwanihana

2007-03-27, 08:31

Scans from the April issue of Newtype which you can see
here (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/03/image_scans_fro.html).

Iwanihana

2007-03-29, 03:06

They uploaded a bunch of images from Episode 1 to the official website today.

I have taken some screen captures here (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/03/announcement_im.html). There are a lot more at the official website.

MrProphet

2007-03-29, 03:40

Um... Gatchaman?

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/2505/capturebg3.jpg

And this girl looks extra wolfsrain-ish.

http://terra-e.com/story/img/01/0107.jpg

EricMontreal22

2007-03-29, 05:02

I like them so far...

Blablabla

2007-03-31, 14:00

Mitsuki Saiga?

Takehito Koyasu?

Daisuke Namikawa?

Juurouta Kosugi?

Norio Wakamoto? (even if it's just the narration)

Oh god, as if I didn't have enough shows to watch already as it is...

You forgot Marina Inoue :frustrated:
I hope they will give her a song :p

7Th

2007-03-31, 14:03

You forgot Marina Inoue :frustrated:
I hope they will give her a song :p

That girl is already in 7 Spring shows, WTH?! :heh:

El Cazador de la Bruja (TV) as Lirio
Engage Planet Kiss Dum (TV) as Tohn Kirii
Hayate the Combat Butler (TV) as Wataru Tachibana
Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS (TV) as Erio Mondial
Ookiku Furikabutte (TV) as Ruri Mihashi
Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (TV) as Yoko
Toward the Terra (TV) as Seki Leigh Shiroei

Bazaa

2007-04-04, 06:11

Oooh, Nobuteru Yuki! <3 I'm really excited for this show now! Is anyone going to sub it? =3

Iwanihana

2007-04-05, 13:19

More illustration! You can see a scan from the magazine Anikan here (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/04/image_picture_f.html).

MrProphet

2007-04-07, 07:35

Episode 1 is out...

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2104/thumbs20070407153423eh3.th.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thumbs20070407153423eh3.jpg)

Looks even more retro than I expected.

wao

2007-04-07, 08:52

Just checked out ep 1. The OP had.... groups of people standing together in one part in a funny way! Which felt a bit retro, atlhough I don't know what I'm talking about really.

Anyway, nothing much to say except that it was ok. Animation was a bit better than I expected, the OP in particular (but then again it's doroku of all things, it's got to be shiny and a pretty OP is a prerequisite). But nothing particularly good (animation-wise) except for perhaps Soldier Blue's kamehameha energy ball and the bit before that.

If anything the voice acting put me off a wee bit, I mean I like Mitsuki Saiga and all that but she sounded a bit strained in some parts. I was hoping to hear Koyasu's job as Keith, but alas, I don't see him appearing until ep 3 possibly... (I know somebody who might be rather saddened by this.)

I'll keep watching for now, but it remains to be seen how long I'll watch. The premise can't be really judged from this first episode because it really was a set-up, but I liked seeing (what I thought was) Jomy's mixed feelings about being an adult, on one hand he knows it's something he's got to do, on another he sort of wants to stay youthful and still be able to stick to his own way, but then he didn't want to disappoint his parents because he's a Nice Kid ultimately.

There had better be some great plot points and characterisation because the direction and animation alone won't keep me watching, at any rate. I'll trust the words of others for now.

Oh yeah, UVERWorld's OP is nice, but not as nice as D.tecno-life or Colours of the Heart in my personal opinion. Or maybe I need time to get used to it.

Iwanihana

2007-04-07, 09:12

Yeah, the style is retro a la Legend of Galactic Heroes, which sells itself on the story and philoshophy but not the animation quality per se - there are long (and probably boring) shots of talking heads as the admirals discuss military and political matters. I don't expect the younger audience to accept this style readily at all.

I happen to like this first episode (the long version of what I think is here (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/04/episode_01_mesa.html)).

MrProphet

2007-04-07, 09:19

Though, the second episode promises a LOT of 3DCG space action.

It's interesting that they've decided to go with this minimalistic episode for the beginning and save the glitz for later. I foresee a lot of people claiming that this is a really bad low-budget anime. 8)

the.Merines

2007-04-07, 09:20

After reading Vol.1 of the manga, I was waiting for this. I was not disappointed. The character designs were less old-school than I thought they'd be, which is both good and bad. The "Universal Control" seemed less dramatic than it could have been, but maybe it's just me since I knew about it prior to watching. The OP was so-so, and I loved the ED (because I'm a sucker for classical, lyrics aside).

wao

2007-04-07, 09:22

Meh, I think the 2D animation feels better than the 3D stuff ...

...ah, but then I'm disgustingly biased and I haven't seen enough of the 3D stuff to complain about it (and well, whatever they did integrate into the show was good enough). And I totally don't expect the animation to get any better after this. It's Tokyo Kids (and Minamimachi) we're talking about after all. Am hearing that Kenichi Ohnuki (yeah, that dude from GS/GSD) may appear since, apparently, he was originally from Minamimachi Bugyousho. Whatever.

I was a little surprised to see Rion Kujo directing the OP, I remember Kujo from Gun X Sword...

prince leon

2007-04-07, 13:00

From what I've seen so far (still watching it) I love the OP to bits.

I liked what I've seen so far of the episode.

Kaoru Chujo

2007-04-07, 13:26

Hey, I enjoyed it. Old-fashioned science fiction story, it appears. The story made sense. There are things happening. The characters worked. And the voice-acting was pretty good. I like Saiga Mitsuki's voice as Jomy. I was thinking how good the emotion in Jomy's mother's voice was and looked up who it was -- Yukana. Naruhodo.

Katapan

2007-04-07, 14:17

The first episode worked very well for me. Probably because I am such a sucker for this type of sci-fi stories.

Oddly enough, I didn't find the artwork particularly retro... maybe because I can't compare with retro-looking series as I have yet to see very old productions. In any case, you can tell that the budget allows for good quality, nothing struck me as badly animated or drawn in an ugly way.

Voice acting was solid, but I didn't expect Soldier Blue's voice to be as 'manly' as Tomokazu Sugita's. I thought he was a girl before reading various summaries, that probably didn't help... (seriously, that character design is so misleading! I hope I'm not the only one who found him feminine after seeing the first pictures). I'm saddened by the fact that Yukana's character will most likely not appear much anymore (if at all), just because the acting was that great in ep1.

Now excuse me while I go play the OP once again...

Jazzrat

2007-04-07, 16:32

Never heard of the original one but i like the premise of the story so far. Reminds me of Gattaca with their highly controlled society.

Animation wise is passable but judging from the preview of next episode, the 3D scene looks pretty bad. I think they should have kept it fully 2D.

The only retro thing about this is the character design, it's a bit uncomfortable to watch at first but since this is meant to be retro, i guess it's ok.

Music is ok, some part of it are pretty good. The OP and ED are ok as well.

I'm looking forward to the next episode. This is definitely a keeper for sci-fi buffs.

aardvark

2007-04-07, 22:14

Not much else to say other than I'm satisfied with the first episode. I was expecting the amount of changes as they're spreading this over 24-26 episodes, so if anything im looking forward to how they expand the story. Otherwise, the animation wasn't really impressive, but the art is terrific. Music was pretty good and I actually liked the OP quite a bit, usually I dont really like uverworld, but I really liked their song here. My only worry now is the CG. The CG in the preview for episode 2 seemed pretty poor :(

The one thing that made me raise my eyebrow in the first episode though was how they changed Jomy's Mother compared to the manga.

Jomy's mother wasnt a bad person in the manga or anything, but her actions are quite a bit different here in the anime. In the manga she was more of the person who was doing their societal duty to raise a child before their awakening, (freaking out when Jomy said something odd among other things), while in the anime she was a much more motherly figure and showed genuine affection and care towards him. The biggest difference is when Universal Control barges in to Jomy's house to perform the psychology test on him, in the anime Jomy's mother wasn't expecting it and is overprotective of him. in the manga however SHE contacted Universal Control herself stating that her child was emotionally unstable... Even Jomy's father was portrayed as more caring in the anime.
Doesn't seem like that big of a change to some I'm sure, but it does very much change how this society is presented in the show. While in the manga it literally was the sterile EVERYONE follows the rules type of society, down to even the parents who fulfilled their duty as "good citizens" at the expense of their childs will, the changes to Jomy's family in the anime doesn't make it as cut and dry as the manga, even if the rest of the outside society is pretty much presented as the manga originally did. (Note I havent finished the manga either as I'm reading Vertical's domestic publication)

Iwanihana

2007-04-07, 22:48

Color spread from the May issue of Newtype is up (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/04/image_colour_sp.html).

Destinyblade

2007-04-08, 02:15

I watched the RAW for this episode, and then read Omni's and WRex's summaries for this. Here are my thoughts thus far:

- First of all, the OP: I just love it. UVERWorld's new song, endscape, is catchy in my opinion. In fact, this may be my most favorite J-Pop song at the moment. I found myself replaying the TV Sized version song multiple times.
- The ED by Miliyah Kato: It was okay, though nothing outstanding. There were some parts of the song I enjoyed, but it didn't really impress me.
- The episode itself: It wasn't too exciting. It was mostly an introduction to the characters, as well as some character interaction between Jomy and his friends/family. I am somewhat intrigued by Soldier Blue and the plot of this show, though.
- The preview looks promising, as it seems there will be some action in the next episode. Hopefully, it'll impress me more than the first episode.

I will give this at least one more episode to see if this'll be something I like or not. Chances are it will be (after all, I don't think I've run across an anime that was so bad that I dropped it), but at the moment, Ayakashi Ayashi was more interesting to me than this. But of course, since this is only episode 1, I will give this a couple more episodes before I decide.

And one final comment: I know MBS/TBS is trying to step the ratings up by replacing Ayakashi Ayashi with this show, but in my opinion, I don't see this show doing that well on doroku either. This show is similar to Ayakashi Ayashi in that it is retro looking and would appeal more to an older audience (after all, the manga is about 30 years old). If MBS/TBS really wants the ratings to go back up, they're going to need a show that can appeal to the fangirls that made Gundam SEED and Fullmetal Alchemist so popular. Hopefully, the rumored Gundam series (by Seiji Mizushima) coming this Fall will do just that. That is, if the rumored Gundam series is true.

zalem

2007-04-08, 11:54

Saw the first episode yesterday....I liked it. I think I'm looking forward to the next episode to see how things unfold. I think this series has alot of potential. Hopefully. The style is very retro, but I don't mind that at all.

solomon

2007-04-09, 00:03

Hmm, hope someone picks it up for sub, im interested in the story.

[/QUOTE]And one final comment: I know MBS/TBS is trying to step the ratings up by replacing Ayakashi Ayashi with this show, but in my opinion, I don't see this show doing that well on doroku either. This show is similar to Ayakashi Ayashi in that it is retro looking and would appeal more to an older audience (after all, the manga is about 30 years old). If MBS/TBS really wants the ratings to go back up, they're going to need a show that can appeal to the fangirls that made Gundam SEED and Fullmetal Alchemist so popular. Hopefully, the rumored Gundam series (by Seiji Mizushima) coming this Fall will do just that. That is, if the rumored Gundam series is true.[/QUOTE]

It's up in the air, the casting seems to be quite fandom friendly, and with the heavy precence of male protagonists could reel in a female fanbase. Prediction an average of a 4% maybe, not bad compared to AA's and B+'s 2% but not as good as the 3 big guns previous 6%. If any one like siegel clyne figures out about it, id be glad to know, im curious.

On another note Mizushima has teamed with Aikawa again on another Tempo era show caled Edo Rocket i think, it's running on MBS coincidentally although it aint a headliner.

EricMontreal22

2007-04-10, 05:27

I'm a bit surprised people here aren't too familiar with the manga... Being such a fan of the 70s shoujo style I'm a little disappointed that the visual imagination of the panels etc isn't captured in the static animation--but I'm pleased so far with how the story is being fleshed out from a fairly short manga

musouka

2007-04-10, 10:37

It's a shounen series, actually...

Iwanihana

2007-04-10, 10:52

Actually I heard one Japanese fan joking that it is neither shounen or shoujo but roujin (the elderly's) anime...

musouka

2007-04-10, 10:55

Well, it was shounen a long time ago. :p

7Th

2007-04-10, 11:58

It's a shounen series, actually...

Yeah, but he meant the artstyle, which is clearly shoujo at heart.

Dandruff

2007-04-11, 11:20

I liked the retro-style looking charactor designs, it's a nice change from the bishoujo designs I'm used to watching xD Never read the manga, maybe I should look it over next time I'm at the bookstore, but it seemed interesting to me, lawl, it's rather scary thinking about how your life and every other apsect of life and society is being controlled by a super computer.

I liked to have a sub so that I could understand it completely, since I have quite a limited knowledge of the Japanese lanaguage, lawl.

Iwanihana

2007-04-14, 23:28

Plot summary of Episode 2 is up (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/04/episode_02_myuu.html).

sangofe

2007-04-21, 13:54

This thread needs bumping :P Ep1 out subbed, and ep 3 raw also out ^^

coroloro

2007-04-21, 16:24

I'm surprised to see there are not more posts, since its release.

I saw the first episode of this anime without any prior knowledge of it, or what it is about. I was VERY pleasantly surprised! Yes, I noted the 'old school' type science fiction plot to it- I think we need more of that back in anime, and I REALLY liked it. I recognize the term for the race "mu" from the anime series "RahXephon". However, unlike that series, it seems to have a unique reverse twist. In RX, the Mu were the ones keeping everyone in a fake world, controlled... while the humans were the free ones. Seems like it's quite different here.

I love the mystery element so far, and the old fashioned feel of the plot- the adventure and exploration element definitely gives me high hopes for the series. Not to mention some very nice animation so far, though the CGI could use a little work compared to a lot of other CGI I've seen- it's not too bad, but it isn't breath-taking so far.

I have VERY high hopes. I think this series, of all those I have seen coming out this season, grabs me the MOST in the first episode (and I've seen ALL the other big releases so far, too, that are subbed).

-Eiric

leongsh

2007-04-21, 17:08

I'm surprised to see there are not more posts, since its release.
I'm already chomping at the bit for Episode 3 (Come on Winny, give me more love!)

Prior to watching Episode 1 a couple of weeks back, I have watched the 1980 movie version. From what I have seen in the movie, I'm most interested to see how they deal with the story and subject matters raised in the movie - control, indoctrination, fear, prejudice, ethnic-cleansing, etc. Fun. I'm just wondering whether certain post-2000 mecha shows have stolen most of the thunder from it on certain matters.

With that foreknowledge, let's go back to Episode 1. It has the same distinctive old school look but I understand that it's really a matter of being fairly faithful to the 1970s manga it is based on but with updates to give the show and the mechanics a more modern up-to-date look. One of the few shows this season that starts off well in the first episode - balancing enough story pull while putting in decent amount of background in both the world and the main character.

The movie has made me expect a lot more from the TV series since it has more time for development in the story, characters and subject matters.

JediNight

2007-04-21, 17:31

Anime-Empire started a new project -- GASP! ... Even if it is only a joint ;D

*waves at Koroshiya*

MrProphet

2007-04-21, 18:33

I'm surprised to see there are not more posts, since its release.

I'd gladly talk about it, but the raw cappers seem to hate this show. It's rather hard to find, though I did see a Chinese sub after a long search.

zalem

2007-04-21, 19:05

I'd gladly talk about it, but the raw cappers seem to hate this show. It's rather hard to find, though I did see a Chinese sub after a long search.

Ah, so I'm not going crazy. I've been having a hard time finding raws for this show too. Glad someone is fansubbing it though. Hopefully more groups will decide to jump in as well. Is it the retro look that's really holding people back from this anime? Because I think it's pretty good so far. Certainly better than some of the stuff that is currently getting fansubbed (or at least having RAWs released).

zalem

2007-04-21, 19:16

This thread needs bumping :P Ep1 out subbed, and ep 3 raw also out ^^

You actually found episode 3 RAW? Lucky. I'm not finding any bittorrent files for it. *sighs* Hopefully, it will be up soon.

Heibi

2007-04-21, 22:54

Having watched the original movie way way back I can actually say I enjoyed episode 1. The movie was a wrist-sliter. Hope everything keeps up with that episode.:cool:

Iwanihana

2007-04-22, 00:21

The raw for episode 3 can be found on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMW8M0JviQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Zd8YLDtfA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOZX-JOzPNc

The uploader seems to have substituted the OP and ED with songs from the old 1980 movie. Odd.

Meanwhile, a succinct summary in clean point form of Episode 3 is here (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/04/episode_03_atar.html).

Sinestra

2007-04-24, 17:35

orion

2007-04-24, 18:04

You actually found episode 3 RAW? Lucky. I'm not finding any bittorrent files for it. *sighs* Hopefully, it will be up soon.

Yeah me too. My fav site only has ep.1 so far.

BluWacky

2007-04-24, 18:20

I'd gladly talk about it, but the raw cappers seem to hate this show. It's rather hard to find, though I did see a Chinese sub after a long search.

It's definitely a capping thing; Share is almost devoid of raws for the show (there are more raws out there for Emma Second Act episode 2, which aired last night, than I managed to find of Terra E 2 yesterday!).

Only just watched episode 2 myself - blimey, Jomy likes his denial, doesn't he? Otherwise I still think the show has potential, but it's flagging a little out of the starting gates.

NoSanninWa

2007-04-24, 18:25

Another post apocalyptic anime where the government is hiding thing from general public and making sure anyone who is not with the program gets eliminated. Its a shame i see potential in the show and the animation and character designs are beautiful. But i foresee the same retold story coming about. I am interested in what connection the the Mu play in returning to earth and what they are exactly. I hope i am wrong and it turns out to but something than what i am expecting. More than anything though its very pretty to look at and the voices are pretty good as well.
Sadly Terra E isn't copying, this story was one of the first. All the other shows you know were copying Terra E's ancient manga. Unfortunately it is old hat by now regardless of where such cliche's started. Even though this story has its own unique twist on the cliche, you aren't entirely wrong. At least there are a few surprises.

leongsh

2007-04-24, 18:54

To add to what NoSanninWa has posted above, the manga that this show is based on came out in the 1970s. Way before any of those other shows with roughly the same premise you have seen became a figment of their respective creators' imagination. Even the first anime adaption of the manga was an anime movie in 1980.

What I do find enjoyable and interesting in the first 3 episodes is that by having more time for the story in a TV series compared to a 2 hour movie, they have more room to develop the story and the characters and they have not wasted it.

zalem

2007-04-25, 10:55

It's definitely a capping thing; Share is almost devoid of raws for the show (there are more raws out there for Emma Second Act episode 2, which aired last night, than I managed to find of Terra E 2 yesterday!).

Only just watched episode 2 myself - blimey, Jomy likes his denial, doesn't he? Otherwise I still think the show has potential, but it's flagging a little out of the starting gates.

I've not been finding RAWs at all. I'm downloading bloody chinese subs. Well, it's better than nothing. It's really too bad. I really like alot of old manga and anime, think it's a shame that people don't give this stuff a shot because it's old.

Thought episode 3 was pretty good. Though Jomy is still doing the whole "reluctant hero" bit. Now that his power has awakened, hopefully he'll get a clue and get over his "I'm not a Mu" phase.

leongsh

2007-04-25, 14:58

It's a bit easier to get the raws from Winny compared to Share. Not by much though. I have the raw of Episode 3.

David Johnston

2007-04-25, 16:41

Light-years from Earth, where every aspect of life is controlled by the great master computer, if you are a Psychic (called a MU) you're dead. Hunted tirelessly, the MU have been hiding for centuries from the general populace.

Amazingly dull movie. Wasted my money when I bought it. And it sounded so interesting...

Sinestra

2007-04-25, 16:46

Sadly Terra E isn't copying, this story was one of the first. All the other shows you know were copying Terra E's ancient manga. Unfortunately it is old hat by now regardless of where such cliche's started. Even though this story has its own unique twist on the cliche, you aren't entirely wrong. At least there are a few surprises.

To add to what NoSanninWa has posted above, the manga that this show is based on came out in the 1970s. Way before any of those other shows with roughly the same premise you have seen became a figment of their respective creators' imagination. Even the first anime adaption of the manga was an anime movie in 1980.

What I do find enjoyable and interesting in the first 3 episodes is that by having more time for the story in a TV series compared to a 2 hour movie, they have more room to develop the story and the characters and they have not wasted it.

hey thanks for the feed back guys I really knew nothing about this series let alone the history involved with it. The fact that i found out that most animes of this genre basically originated from this one was interesting. I will most likely stay with the series just so i can find out about this little surprises you guys mentioned but i dont plan on it making it very high on my to watch list, not with so many great new shows out

molitar

2007-04-26, 10:54

Hmm.. watched episode 2 and it's looking ok. Seems to me it's the government trying to stop the evolution of mankind. Control it 100% by even erasing their memories and reprogramming them with new ones when they turn 14.

Now Jomy has to BE the stupidest most naive person. He goes about wanting to go back to his parents but he keeps forgetting they were GOING to ERASE his memory! He wouldn't have parents.. he wouldn't have friends.. only the fake past that the goverment was going to give to him.

Matrim

2007-04-26, 12:53

So far it's been an interesting series with nice music but seriously, if Jomy doesn't stop being an angsty moron soon, I don't know if I will be able to continue watching this. I know he is in a tough situation but wanting to return to his mother when the government agents were trying to kill him the previous day is just too stupid. And since he loves his family so mcuh, shouldn't he be a bit more thankful to the people who helped him prevent the erasure of his memories?

Friera

2007-04-26, 13:49

Aaah, I think this is the seasons best show by far. (though I can't say for sure since I haven't watched to many episodes of various series yet). It was really the art who attract me in the first place.
the main character, Jomy, really are like Wolfram from Kyou Kara Maou - And I can't say his voice doesn't make that impression weaker. (Since it is the same voiceactor). He is a little bit annoying. But it is really a realistic reaction, isn't it? I mean, those basic shounen anime's they would just accept it right away and already have a new goal for life is kinda steriotypical? I believe when he faces reality he will accept it, and be more mature.

I do love the mysteri behind it all. I have, for some reason, a Jyu Oh Sei feeling behind it. But I sure hope this show doesn't end like a catastrophe like JoS.

I read somewhere it was the same people behind Get Backers who works with this show. Is this true?
And it is based on a shounen manga, right? From the 80s? How some it seems more... shoujo? Almost a little shounen-ai ish?

Anyway, great show! :D It deserves much more attention!

leongsh

2007-04-26, 14:07

And the joint by Anime-Empire and Saizen has just released the Episode 3 fansub. It's only a few hours after releasing their sub of Episode 2. Making them very fast and very up-to-date.

Muddle!

2007-04-26, 14:11

jedinat

2007-04-26, 15:20

I have to agree with you. I really enjoyed the first two episodes but Jomy's attitude was grating on my nerves.
I had to drop it. Watched the first two episodes, then skimmed the third. Jomy is a whiny little pimple and shows no signs of maturing. Constantly screeching and and yelling "It's all your fault!" ...ugh.

(Honestly, why do so many leads in so many anime want to insist over and over again that they are "human" when the alternative is so much cooler? "Oh no! I have super powers and will live a long long time! How horrible!" ...bleh.)

zalem

2007-04-26, 16:50

He's annoying but he HAS to change after episode 3, right? I mean there's no way he can still be in denial after that episode. If he is, then he really is a moron. O_O But I'm going to give him a chance to grow up and get less annoying. Look forward to episode 4, just to see his reaction to the latest events....prove us wrong Jomy!

Matrim

2007-04-26, 18:51

He's annoying but he HAS to change after episode 3, right?

You never know with anime main characters. :) But I certainly hope he will change. Oh, well, at lwast he had a good enough reason to shout in episode 3, namely the fact that he was being interrogated not too gently. Serves him right for being stupid enough to return to his home, I'd say. Too bad Leo had to suffer because of the boy's stupidity.

I like the atmosphere of the series and apart from Jomy, there characters who might be interesting, so I will continue watching it.

faye

2007-04-27, 05:03

Just found this threat and read all from the first page

It`s rather strange the discussion so far. :uhoh:

Firstly I really like the show so far. The characters look great (only a little bothered by Phisis), animation is good (nothing too bad neither too good) and really liked the OP

About Jimy being annoying - he will change now and secondly I find out his atitude more normal than anything.
If situation* - My family tell me that i`m not their real dauther, I`ll try to run from reality with denial "No, it cant be truth! "
See any similarities!?:p

Shiroth

2007-04-27, 07:34

I'll admit that Jomy does come across as the annoying character --- though its easy to understand why after seeing whats happening in the world around him. Hopefully he'll grow to become more likable then he is now.

I'm really enjoying this series upto now. The music is outstanding, and goes perfectly with the series. Can't wait for more.

leongsh

2007-04-27, 08:34

I think some of the expectations of how Jomy should act by some of the posters here makes it seem as though it is more normal for a just-turned-14-years teen to accept a drastic change in his life and be obedient to go with the flow. In addition, he has been well indoctrinated in the world that he used to live in as to what they defined as the correct path and that Mu are not human and are dangerous powerful creatures. To expect him to just accept that being told he is Mu after the sudden hostility to him by those in his world and then dumped straight into another world alien to him, he will quietly obey and follow whatever happens to him. *sighs*

A sanity/reasonableness check is certainly required.

zalem

2007-04-27, 10:00

Oh nobody said anything about his reaction not being normal. :) I can understand why he is reacting the way he is, even if I find it a bit annoying. That's the very reason I'm still giving him a shot and not writing him off. But that said, it would be incredibly stupid of him to continue reacting the way he is after episode 3. He's no longer justified in reacting in such a manner.

I mean he is FLYING. Normal humans don't fly. Not to mention he just blew up a building. So if he whines about how he is definitely not a Mu, he is just being rather ridiculous. He can't remain in denial mode anymore. He's got to accept this and move on.
However, I do expect him to get over all this and move on. So I have high hopes for him.

Quajafrie

2007-04-27, 11:14

The CG are really getting on my nerves.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-27, 13:55

I finally gave in and watched this. I've not bothered before now cause for some reason i didnt like the title. All i can say now is HOLY BATMAN!!! I just watched all 3 eps back to back and im hungry for more. No comments on the op since i never watch them, but the show itself was just awsome.

Good animation, though i admit i found the drawing style weird at first, good music and so far a good pace and flow to it. Jomy is being a bit of an ass, but from the first ep i got the impression he was a bit of a mama's boy, so it kinda fits. Also if you look at the alternatives, be a human and live in society or be a mu and be hunted down and killed on sight; its fairly opbvious which id rather be. No matter what perks came with it.

I think Leo getting wounded/killed is going to have a greater impact on him than his powers awakening. After all they awoke cause he wanted to save Leo, but it kinda backfired. I can see this giving him the usual 'im to scared to use them' complex for a while. However events will force him, and over time he'll become a good hero.

No matter what show you get now, they're going to fall into cliche's anime is old and there's only so many areas that can be used. Whether Terra was the first or the last of these cliche's dosent matter, its how the show handles them is what counts. So far i've been really impressed.

First Gundam i ever saw was Gundam X, after that no matter which one i watched all i kept thingking of was how similar to Gundam X it was, character attitudes and so on.

However with this show, i'd forgotten all the shows that are similar to it, and just got drawn into it, i couldnt resist even if i wanted to >.<

As for the actual episodes, Saizen and AE put out awsome quality releases as usual. Chapterised so i can skip the op (i do love that >.<), picture quality was great and so was the sound, clean clear and crisp. No sudden volume drops, or quirks in the vid, overall i highly enjoyable hour.

Only one problem with shows like this when they're new, you have to wait for the eps to air, and im impatient :)

Wonder if any other good shows slipped under the radar this season....

zalem

2007-04-27, 21:04

leongsh

2007-04-27, 21:48

Wasn't paying attention before, but I noticed the gallery section of the website has episode pics up. They already have some caps from episode 4 for anyone interested:
http://terra-e.com/index_gallery.html

Looks like Leon survived. Plus it seems we get to know more about Soldier Blue's past. Very glad about this as I've been extremely curious to know more about him and the Mu.
I'm definitely looking forward to this episode even more now. :)
Definitely looking forward to know more about Soldier Blue's past. He already knows that he is not expected to last longer and may be relating his past to Jomy to let him know more. In light of Soldier Blue being one of the oldest of the surviving Mu, Jomy will get the history of how some of the Mu managed to escape and come to this status. If Jomy is going to lead the Mu as chosen by Soldier Blue, he has to know this history.

It's good to know that Leo has been extracted and is alive. Leo is going to be the person closest to Jomy amongst the Mu.Will be watching out for Episode 4 when it's broadcast later tonight (or should I say very early Sunday morning).

Iwanihana

2007-04-28, 11:07

zalem

2007-04-28, 11:12

Somebody uploaded Episode 4 to Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlZIY89tuDw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0ObtB0iiVc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJWtmvYD0q4

Summary is here (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/04/episode_04_sora.html) in case anyone finds it helpful.

Wait a minute so...

Soldier blue is dead? O__O I mean, I was expecting him to die but not this soon. It doesn't seem clear from the episode that he's actually dead. He was talking telepathically in the bed til almost the end of the episode. But I suppose if he dies at this point in the manga then he probably is dead. You'd think they'd make his death clear though. That's a pretty big event afterall.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 12:24

Not really zalem

It was fairly obvious in ep3 that he was going to die rescuing Jomy. He used a load of powere rescuing jomy in ep 1 and was comatose almost the rest of the time, just speaking telepathically. And when he got to his feet when raki found him you can tell he's unsteady.

It's just so obvious that when he appears in ep 3 and says he'll go and get jomy he's going to use the last of his power and die. Even the preview shows him struggling to get through to jomy. Cant wait to see this ep fansubed :)

That said a few things ive been wondering about since i watched eps 1-3. Who is the love interest this time :) Usually with this type of anime you can figure out the love interests within a few eps. Initially i was thinking of the fortune telling woman, but since she's over 50, and clearly had feelings for Blue, i doubt its her. The girl in the first ep who kissed jomy (forgot her name) is a possibility, but she's human so....

Also what format is this going to take. Jomy has no defects, and as was said Mu have some form of defect to make up for their power. With that in mind i can see it flowing :- Mu on one side, humans on the other with jomy in the middle saying that both are the same, trying to reunite them.

The other format would be a plain all out war between Mu and Humans with Jomy leading the humans, but that just dosent seem to fit his personality we've seen so far.

justinstrife

2007-04-28, 12:40

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 12:56

If they follow the movie at all, you haven't met his love interest yet(and won't for awhile until they find their own planet to call home). :p

Good to see this story get a face lift and alot more air-time. The movie was far too short(and whatever quality you could find was horrible).

LMAO

Just watched the raw and noticed that the girl who kissed him in ep1 and his mate from ep1 are aparently going to become his enemy and he'll have to fight them (going from the OP at least)

I've never seen the movie, and cant find ANYTHING on the manga, so i'll just have to struggle with the TV show :)

Watching this ep at the end i relised that Jomy is going to have an even harder time with the Mu now. With the possible exception of the fortune teller and Leon, everyone else is going to blame him for Blue's death, and they already hate him a shed load. He's going to have a very hard time of it. I only hope they spend some time going over how he handles that, rather than skimming over it.

Soldiers memories were interesting, though i cant tell without the subs, but it looks like there were hundreds of Mu being studied by humans on some moon. Blue blew :p his top and destroyed a moon!!! Now there's a guy you dont want to tick off lol.

Hope some speed sub group starts to do this, would love to know what was being said in that ep

zalem

2007-04-28, 13:06

The manga seems impossible to find. >_< I know it's being released domestically in english, but I'm impatient and tried looking for the original japanese manga volumes. Have had no luck so far. I suppose it's out of print because it's so old. How many volumes are there anyway?

And yeah, as far as episode 4 goes...
Jomy has some BIG shoes to fill and is going to have to deal with a ton of flak. Everyone obviously loves Soldier Blue very much, they'll have a hard enough time accepting Jomy filling his position but add to that the fact that it sort of looks like Blue's death is Jomy's fault. Well, things don't look so good for our boy. I'm very happy he's finally gotten over his denial mode and has accepted things though. It would have made Soldier's death in vain if he didn't. I'm very curious how he's going to develop as a character from here on in.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 13:21

I dont think Soldiers death is Jomy's fault as such. I think he was just old, and while Mu may be long lived, i doubt that they're imortal. I got the impression from his memories that he was among the first Mu, and the cause of the original rebellion/escape.

However i do think people will blame him. Though to be honest if i found myself in his situation i think i'd of probably reacted the same way >.< I mean they basicly turned his world upside down, shock and stretched it heheh so bitterness towards them is fairly normal i think.

I also think Jomy was right, if they hadnt interfeared with his adult exam, nothing would of happened.

Wonder if Jomy will ever get to see his folks again, that could prove interesting. Also can either side really be called human anymore? kiids are geneticly manufactured and raised by foster parents, have their minds wiped at 14 and placed in the work force. Every aspect of their life is governed by a computer. How is that human?

Then the Mu have pfsychic abilities, but still seem to be geneticly making kids (the kid from ep 2 i think it was asking what mama is).

leongsh

2007-04-28, 14:04

If they follow the movie at all, you haven't met his love interest yet(and won't for awhile until they find their own planet to call home). :p
Actually, if they do follow the movie,
we have met his love interest. The little girl, Karina. The one who held his hand and wanted to find out more about Jomy's "Mama" in Episode 2. She'll grow up and be the one as the series will be cover a number of years.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 14:17

Actually, if they do follow the movie,
we have met his love interest. The little girl, Karina. The one who held his hand and wanted to find out more about Jomy's "Mama" in Episode 2. She'll grow up and be the one as the series will be cover a number of years.

lol
who knew!!! jomy was into loli :p

how many eps ios this going to be, 26? more than one season?

Scab

2007-04-28, 14:36

It's been announced as 24 episodes long.

justinstrife

2007-04-28, 15:09

Actually, if they do follow the movie,
we have met his love interest. The little girl, Karina. The one who held his hand and wanted to find out more about Jomy's "Mama" in Episode 2. She'll grow up and be the one as the series will be cover a number of years.

Oh snap. I missed her. :upset:

I don't know how I did that. Good catch!

zalem

2007-04-28, 15:46

Hey, don't suppose anyone knows who the girl with the reddish long curly hair is? It's ok to spoil me, I'm curious...

You can see her here:

http://terra-e.com/gallery/shimen01.html

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 16:30

Well, to me, it looks like a guy not a gal. He's got no boobs :)

As for who he is, no idea, sorry

leongsh

2007-04-28, 17:12

Hey, don't suppose anyone knows who the girl with the reddish long curly hair is? It's ok to spoil me, I'm curious...

You can see her here:

http://terra-e.com/gallery/shimen01.html
Taliesin is right - that character is a guy and not a girl. Do you really want to be spoiled? I'm serious. It's a major spoiler that would lead to more questions if I disclose it.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 17:22

This is one of those shows id never want spoiled, its just to damned good. It's taken all my will power not to l,ook at the ep4 spoilers before i watched it earlier :)

Friera

2007-04-28, 17:41

How come there are mostly boys? So far it seems a little shounen-aiish...

Can't wait for ep 4 though. :D

zalem

2007-04-28, 17:57

Taliesin is right - that character is a guy and not a girl. Do you really want to be spoiled? I'm serious. It's a major spoiler that would lead to more questions if I disclose it.

Heh, wasn't sure if it was a guy or a girl. Anyway, sure spoil me! I guess just make sure it's clearly labelled so no one else who doesn't want to know accidentally reads it.

[edit] Just wanted to add something instead of making a new post. From what I've seen this manga series is only 3 volumes long. On the official site they only show three volumes and the official english translated ones seem to only be three volumes. If that's the case, then can this series really be 24 episodes? That seems a bit too many episodes for three volumes. 13 episodes would probably be more appropriate. So it makes me wonder if they're going to add alot of new material in order to stretch it for 24 eps (if it is indeed going to be that long).

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 18:22

Even if it is only three vols it should be fairly easy to stretch it to 24eps without having way to many filler eps, or ruining the original. They could do more indepth looks at certain aspects for example.

zalem

2007-04-28, 18:30

I'd worry about them slowing things down too much if they just stuck with the manga plotline and still stretched it to 24 eps. Of course, if they utilize the time for more in depth characterization that's always a plus for me.

I know Death Note is a totally different series, but it took them about 25 episodes to get through about 6 1/2 volumes of manga. And that was while staying pretty damn faithful to the manga too. Totally different stories, but it still makes me wonder if they aren't going to have to change and/or add stuff to Terra e...

Of course, just because they do add material doesn't necessarily mean it will be bad. I'm just wondering what type of material they plan on adding if they do add any. :)

leongsh

2007-04-28, 18:42

Taliesin is right - that character is a guy and not a girl. Do you really want to be spoiled? I'm serious. It's a major spoiler that would lead to more questions if I disclose it.
Heh, wasn't sure if it was a guy or a girl. Anyway, sure spoil me! I guess just make sure it's clearly labelled so no one else who doesn't want to know accidentally reads it.
Okay then.
Your last chance to avoid being spoiled.
That's Tony. The son of Jomy and Karina. He is the first to be born naturally after a long time rather than being a test tube baby like all the humans, Universal Control or Mu, are. He will be leading the Mu for a time and he will be as efficient in doing so as Keith will be in leading the Universal Control humans.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 22:27

must.....resist.....urge.....

nooooo *chops mouse cord* :)

I half want to click that spoiler and half dont lol DAMN YOU!!! for tempting me!!!

leongsh

2007-04-28, 22:31

Mwhahahaha... You know you want to know :D

Go ahead and click it...

zalem

2007-04-28, 22:52

justinstrife

2007-04-28, 22:58

Click it, click it! It's a VERY interesting spoiler.

Though one question about said spoiler....(DON'T click if you don't want to know!)
You say Tony is going to lead the Mu, so what happens to Jomy? Or is that too big a spoiler?

And an unrelated question but since you're familiar with Terra, might as well ask...is Soldier Blue totally out of the picture? He's really dead? No coming back in any way? No more back story to him?

Ahahaha...I'm so bad asking for all these spoilers, but I'm just too curious. I won't ask anymore though! Promise....or at least I'll try. :)

The answers to your questions are.... Soldier Blue dies right after saving Jomy, and Jomy becomes super uber powerful, and leads the Mu. Unfortunetly bad things happen, his wife does, he closes his eyes and ears to the world, and his son becomes like his connection to the rest of the world for a time. Eventually he destroys the computer that controls humanity at the cost of his own life. After Jomy's death, his son takes the new generation of children away to evolve further, and leave the humans and mu to rebuild everything that had been destroyed, together. So ya. Soldier Blue and Jomy will both be dead before the series concludes.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-04-28, 23:20

The answers to your questions are.... Soldier Blue dies right after saving Jomy, and Jomy becomes super uber powerful, and leads the Mu. Unfortunetly bad things happen, his wife does, he closes his eyes and ears to the world, and his son becomes like his connection to the rest of the world for a time. Eventually he destroys the computer that controls humanity at the cost of his own life. After Jomy's death, his son takes the new generation of children away to evolve further, and leave the humans and mu to rebuild everything that had been destroyed, together. So ya. Soldier Blue and Jomy will both be dead before the series concludes.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CLICKED!!!!!!!

But holy smkes, if they do that plot line this will be one kick ass series. That said though, it seems a bit much to get into 24 eps, so i can only imagine there'll be a few time jumps.

leongsh

2007-04-28, 23:24

Bah! Justin, you need to learn the art of the tease. You've given away a bit too much.

Let's not get sidetracked and just go back to Episode 4 then.

It's interesting to see that they have not shied away from the subject matter of the Mu being used in experiments which put them through tremendous mental stress, akin to torture, and the experiments having a very high fatality rate. This is akin to the Nazis experiments on the Jews in certain concentration camps during World War II and also what the Japanese army experimented with the Chinese prisoners in Harbin, China during World War II.

By sharing his memory with Jomy, Soldier Blue lets Jomy see the past through Soldier Blue's eyes in the past. Jomy then understands the suffering that the original group of Mu that survived went through. You can see and hear that at the end of the episode, Jomy deciding to continue Soldier Blue's work in finding the Mu before Universal Control does. He also wants to fulfil the dream of Soldier Blue for the Mu.The end of Episode 4 nicely caps the early part of the story with Episode 5 moving onto the next stage.

zalem

2007-04-28, 23:33

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I CLICKED!!!!!!!

But holy smkes, if they do that plot line this will be one kick ass series. That said though, it seems a bit much to get into 24 eps, so i can only imagine there'll be a few time jumps.

I'm shocked they got all that in 3 manga volumes. O_O

justinstrife

2007-04-28, 23:34

I'm shocked they got all that in 3 manga volumes. O_O

Try a movie

leongsh

2007-04-28, 23:51

Try a movie
The movie tried to pack so much in that it was quite dense. The TV series that is now showing has the room (i.e. time) to expand on a few matters and made it a more affecting start when you compare the same part covered by the movie - which this same part felt a bit abrupt in the movie.

justinstrife

2007-04-29, 00:55

The movie tried to pack so much in that it was quite dense. The TV series that is now showing has the room (i.e. time) to expand on a few matters and made it a more affecting start when you compare the same part covered by the movie - which this same part felt a bit abrupt in the movie.

Everything was rushed in the movie. But I think that you'll find it true of alot of movies back in the 80's. They really needed to be turned into tv series to fully flesh out the stories and the characters. I hope to see other older anime movies turned into new series so that they could really open up.

Blaat

2007-04-30, 09:44

I kind of wished the intro song didn't reveal so much of the story. I haven't read the manga nor seen the movie but Soldier Blue's dead wasn't a surprise.

Sinestra

2007-04-30, 14:33

episodes 2 and 3 peeked my interest a little more in the show but not very much. Sure we get some more back round info on the MU but Jomys constant whining drove me insane. Ok so you were taken from home and bought to this ship and you want to deny that your a Mu these feelings i can understand but the for the love of christ the whining the bitching and the running away. He didnt even stop to think about the things that had happened to him before he Soldier Blue rescued him. But to be fair we can also chalk all of this up to his age. After episode 3 when he went postal and awakened im interested to see how they get him to calm down.

leongsh

2007-04-30, 15:30

The fansub of Episode 4 is out in record time for the 2 groups doing a joint for this show. Broadcast on Saturday, out on Monday - 2 days. And it's not a poor quality speed sub either. This has very good quality. Great job, guys.

Shiroth

2007-04-30, 17:06

Matrim

2007-04-30, 18:47

Episode four is great, some really moving scenes, especially the flashbacks from Blue's past, great music and a sci-fi battle without stupid giant robots, something quite rarely in anime.

kauldron26

2007-04-30, 18:52

episode 4 was pretty awesome... the show is now an 8.5/10

lightbringer

2007-04-30, 19:04

orion

2007-04-30, 19:19

I agree, episode 4 was pretty good. It almost managed to erase the "is it batman? it it spiderman? it's superman!" effect from episode 3. Still too much emo from the main lead, and too many lovey-dovey moments with Soldier Blue, but overall a big improvement over previous episodes.

Some would say not enough lovey-dovey moments with Soldier Blue. :p :heh:

Loved episode 4. Gave it a 9/10. Soldier Blue's past was sad. Kind of puts it in perspective why the Mu feel the way they do.

leongsh

2007-04-30, 23:21

Episode 04 was amazing, absolutely amazing --- the pacing of the episode, along with the epic musical score made that episode one hell of a watch. Seeing a strong pride side from the Mu is something that makes an impression, even more so under the situation that they were in.
And when you see their history through Soldier Blue's eyes as Jomy did, you get to appreciate how far the Mu have come along to survive.

As for Soldier Blue.. i knew it was going to happen, i didn't want to see it, but i did, and it made the episode even more spectacular.
The OP has been quite specific about it but it did not happen as seen in the OP. FYI, the OP version is closer to how the movie showed it.

His end speech had me in tears --- together with his backstory which was nicely added, and at a perfect time. The final push that'll change Jomy's mind around.
I think it was more affecting not from when he made his last telepathic message to all the Mu on board but when Jomy got back his senses and he told Jomy what he had shared with him - the past of the Mu as seen through his eyes. As Soldier Blue fell back to the planet in exhaustion, his simple apology to Jomy really started the ball rolling. In the end, amidst voices of disapproval over Jomy's selection by Soldier Blue to be his successor, the promise by Jomy to carry on Solder Blue's dreams ended this first part of the story very nicely.

Great episode, i'll be rewatching this one again pretty soon.
:heh: I've been rewatching this episode (raw) a few times since its broadcast on Saturday. Great way to cap the first 4 episodes. Looking forward to Episode 5 for the next phase of this story.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-01, 10:11

I'm only hoping we dont have a time jump to where Jomy is already leading the Mu. It needs to spend some time on his conflicts on the ship first

zalem

2007-05-01, 10:34

It would be logical for there to be a time jump in the manga....there's no way they can do such a complicated and long storyline in three volumes without one imho. So if that's the case, then we might see a time jump in the anime. But maybe not, considering we have 24 episodes to fill up perhaps they'll decide to fill in any time gaps like this. It would be a good opportunity to develop characters more.

I'm still waiting for my Terra e manga to arrive, then I'll have a better idea of how true to the manga the anime is actually sticking.

Anyway, I don't think we're going to see a timejump just yet if we do see one. I think it'll come at a later point. I agree, I'd prefer to see more of Jomy dealing with his new role and conflicts with his fellow MU then have that rushed and ignored with a time jump.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-01, 10:38

A time jump in the anime now would be stupid, and a huge let down. They've spent 4 eps builing upto it. They should spend atleast 1 ep on him winning over the Mu.

Iwanihana

2007-05-05, 10:19

Summary of Episode 5 is up (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/05/episode_05_shi_.html)!

zalem

2007-05-05, 10:50

Interesting, they've already diverted from the manga a bit, but it seems that after episode 4 there's going to be a larger difference. I'm actually very happy about this. I got the manga recently and it really rushes the storyline and throws in timejumps, so there isn't a great amount of character development imho (in particular for Jomy).

For instance there's no showing Jomy dealing with the Mu and his role as leader, it just skips to him leading them.
Also....
Glad that they didn't kill Soldier off just yet. He did die at this point in the manga, so again a pretty big diversion from the manga here. But I still imagine he'll die pretty soon. Guess they didn't want to kill him off in the 4th episode...that is too soon.
Anyway, thanks for the summary. I look forward to seeing the episode. Now to hunt down the RAW for it.

Shiroth

2007-05-05, 15:35

zalem

2007-05-05, 15:42

Wait a minute..

So Solider Blue isn't dead? Sure it didn't say he was at the end of episode four, though with his words and all, i'm sure that was to happen. Gotta say i don't know what to feel at the moment --- probably sort out this feelings once i've seen episode 05.

Gah, looks like i'll have to edit my post on my blog.. i'll do it later.

I thought he was alive when I saw episode 4 because the way it all unfolded was too weird. They didn't actually show him die and he made that speech at the end. I don't know...if he was on his deathbed at the end I'd expect everyone to be gathered around him to say farewell. But he was just sitting by himself on the bed in the room sending out that psychic message. Then I read what people said in blogs and the manga and I thought I my hunch was wrong afterall. Guess not, though I doubt he has much longer to live.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-06, 15:05

ep5 raw is out :)

Well i cant translate anything so this is just my impressions lol.

Overal i think this is by far the best ep so far, it deals with Jomy learning to master his power (or trying) aswell as coming to terms with what he is, and whats expected of him.

His out burst in the begining blowing up the device was priceless, and while i cant be sure, i think the kid says "Jomy's at it again" when she feels it. Or something to that effect. The meeting with the other kid was perfect, and i think its what helps him the most. The chat he has with Blue at the end of the episode is what im really looking forward to seeing. I get the impression that Jomy finally accepts fully what he has to do, and that his old life is really over. I think uptil that point he was still hoping to somehow return home and carry on with his adult exam. I think this is the turning point of the show.

After watcching ep5 i was thinking, havent the Mu been a bit harsh on Jomy. From what happened in ep1 i got the impression that most Mu lost most if not all of their memories from the adult exam. Leo said the same, he didnt have memories of his family. Blue also said that he was able to retain them due to his strong will. So when he arrived on the Shangri-La the sudden bombardment of thoughts would scare anyone. Especially since he has been raised to believe Mu are the ultimate evil, to be suddenly surrounded by people clling you Mu, well, you get my point right?

Then there's all that psychic whispering going on. They said they wanted Jomy to understand them (the Mu), but other than Leo, Physis, Blue and the children, none have really made an effort to get to know Jomy. So i can understand why he'd be resentful. I think in the same situation id probably be the same.

All of that said, to get everything that was revealed in the earlier spoilers in, i can see them having to do some serious time jumps, which i wont really mind so long as they're handled right. But damn i want ep6 now :)

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-07, 04:05

holy smeg!!!

Less than a day after the raw is out Saizen have released!!!

*worships at the temple of Saizen and A-E, sacrafices random forum visitors aswell*

Im glad soldier wasnt killed off just yet, i like him :)

it was good to see Jomy grow up a bit. He still suffers from the occassional out burst (like blowing up that device), but i think those actually fit. If he'd suddenly gone to being all Soldier Blue like, it would of been odd.

Leo's face when Jomy's anger lets loose was just a classic, and that kid's "Jomy's angry again" nearly had me in fits. Physis is a strange character i have to admit, not sure what i make of her, or that odd guy who looks after her. He reminds me of a minstrel lol.

I wonder how long they're going to keep Blue alive, after all you can only be at deaths door for so long, they need some conclusion to that part i think.

The whispering and stuff i mentioned before is still quite apparent, and its not until the end when Jomy is saving everyones butt that we start to see some attitude changes, even if its just in the captain.

Speaking of that, HOLY HANNAH what kind of power he must have to reflect satalite laser beams >.< I mean i knew he was going to be stronger than average, but thats insane, even the crew were stunned by that.

I liked the little chat that Jomy has with Soldier at the end, definatly one of the key turning points in Jomy's life i think. Throwing away the human him and taking up the Mu him, setting off on the road without looking back yada yada yada (you know what i mean :p)

I was a little disapointed the ships crew didnt get much screen time, i was hoping for some more interaction between them and jomy while the anger and tension was still high, but since the next ep seems to be about the humans, i guess i'll have to cross me fingers and hope that appears in ep 7.

One thing ive been thinking on for a bit, those headphones that some of them are wearing, what are they for. Are they a blocking device to help block out the psychic bable (if so shouldnt they give a set to jomy lol), or do they serve some other purpose. Please feel free to spoiler me about that :)

lightbringer

2007-05-07, 08:28

Blazingly fast release, but quality is very good. This is the first episode of Terra e... that I've actually liked. Jomy is still emo, but not as bad as before. Plus he's accepted the fact that he's a Mu, and he's got some cool powers now.

On another note, I've put together a wikipedia article for this anime. Anyone feel like filling in episode summaries and/or character info? ^_^

Jazzrat

2007-05-07, 08:43

Not surprised that Soldier Blue is still hanging in there, he still havent pass that headphone to Jomy yet :p though it seems like he ll be confined to bed for a long while.

I'm surprised how fast the pace of the story is going with episode 4 and 5.
Looking forward to episode 6, Keith (Takehito Koyasu) will be introduced. Seems like the main antagonist of the show judging from the OP showing him fighting with Jomy and separated from Physis.

zalem

2007-05-07, 10:45

A-E rocks!

Next episode is Keith focused. We might have the next few eps be focused on him. Don't know how I feel about that. I'm not all that fond of him in the manga. Maybe I'll like him better in the anime.

Matrim

2007-05-07, 12:19

sangofe

2007-05-07, 12:32

A-E rocks!

Yeah, they do, but this joint team also rocks ^^
Seriously, this is a veery fun project to work at :)

zalem

2007-05-07, 12:50

Yeah, they do, but this joint team also rocks ^^
Seriously, this is a veery fun project to work at :)

Oops, totally forgot that there are two groups working jointly on it. Sorry. :heh: Of course, both groups are wonderful. :) I'm glad to see a good quality sub for this series. And coming out so quickly is a big bonus.

zalem

2007-05-07, 12:54

Another nice episode. But Jomy really needs to get rid of that cape he is wearing, he looks like an adolescent Superman when he wears it. :heh:
And I want more Physis, she seems interesting and listening to Kobayashi Sanae is awlays a pleasure.
The fact that Soldier Blue is still alive spoiled a bit the emotional effect of the previous episodes but on the other hand it's nice to have him around for longer.

Heh, I can't get over the pinkness of the cape. Really, he should choose a different color at least. I think red would be better or green to match his eyes.

Physis is a very interesting character, I look forward to seeing her backstory. :)

I am actually quite happy Blue is still alive. It just seems like such a waste to kill him off so soon. Let him be a mentor for Jomy just a bit longer.

lightbringer

2007-05-07, 13:49

The question is, why wear a cape at all. Maybe he's cold when he moves around in the atmosphere so much :D

leongsh

2007-05-07, 14:33

About the cape, it identifies the wearer as a person of high rank. The highly ranked people of the Mu wear capes (e.g. those who went to see him in the training room, Harley, and of course Blue). Colour-wise, no idea why pink was chosen for him.

About Physis... :D stay tuned for some revelations... especially if it follows the movie [deliberate tease]

About Shiroe, you can see him in the opening credits with the Universal Control team led by Keith. With that, you know he will figure later. I wonder whether they will follow the movie... [more deliberate teasing]

lightbringer

2007-05-07, 15:28

zalem

2007-05-07, 19:11

Physis' character design is really weird though. Her skull doesn't look particularly human to me, even if she's been alive for over eighty years -_-;

You are welcome to provide detailed spoilers about the movie, you know :D

Some people posted some major spoilers not too long ago in response to some questions I asked. But I'm warning you, they are MAJOR spoilers for the whole series and ending. Click if you dare. :) Curious how much the movie differs from the manga. I found a copy of it finally, but haven't gotten around to watching it.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-07, 23:24

I've just finished watching the movie and holy spats, what a story!!! Okay i spoiled myself huge, but if they follow that story we'll have an AWSOME series here. For those that have seen the movie can you answer a Q for me

After kieth has killed jomy at grand mothers request he gets all angry. Bites his finger and drops of blood fall on jomy's face. What was that about? I get that he was angry over being made to kill jomy, but i dont understand the blood bit.

I feel really sorry for jomy now after watching it, seems like everything he's loved has been detroyed one by one, poor guy.

zalem

2007-05-08, 00:25

That's why I really need to sit my ass down and see the movie....because so far the tv series has deviated from the manga a bit. For one thing Soldier Blue should have died at the end of episode 4 to keep it in line with the manga storyline. And also...

They've changed Shiroe quite a bit. He seems like a pretty powerful Mu in the anime series, but in the manga that's not the case. In fact, I am not really sure he's Mu at all. Afterall, they why didn't they kill him after the ESP test? Or if he is a Mu he is a very, very weak one as far as his psychic powers go.
I'm wondering if it's closer to the movie story-wise or is it different from that too.

leongsh

2007-05-08, 05:48

I've just finished watching the movie and holy spats, what a story!!! Okay i spoiled myself huge, but if they follow that story we'll have an AWSOME series here.
Now that you have seen the movie, notice how much has been condensed into the movie. With the space/time for more exposition available for the TV series, it has great potential. So far, in the first few episodes, they have not wasted the time spent.

For those that have seen the movie can you answer a Q for me
After kieth has killed jomy at grand mothers request he gets all angry. Bites his finger and drops of blood fall on jomy's face. What was that about? I get that he was angry over being made to kill jomy, but i dont understand the blood bit.

I feel really sorry for jomy now after watching it, seems like everything he's loved has been detroyed one by one, poor guy.
To show that he is human and not a cyborg/machine who just listens and obey commands from Grand Mother. It is an affirmation of who he is after the realisation of it from his dealings with Jomy.

With regards to the remainder, Jomy's growth to a mature, thoughtful character makes the ending a sad moment.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-08, 06:12

I actually like anime like that though, bitter sweet. Succeed in the end but the losess along the way....

*deletes rest of post to prevent unintended spoilers*

crap, now im going to have to read every post a dozen times to make sure i dont accidently go into spoiler domain lol

The movie was interesting, quality wise it sucked big time, but after the first few minutes or so i stopped noticing it. Like the series i just got swallowed up in it.

I wish i could afford to emigrate to japan >.< worth the costs just to get the anime channels and the games!!!

If i ever won the lottery thats the second thing i'd do. First would be to take a proper japanese language course :)

Shiroth

2007-05-08, 21:38

zalem

2007-05-09, 00:06

I was impressed with episode 05 --- at least it shows the Mu aren't going to take a liking to Jomy straight away. He's gonna have to gain there respect, and i look forward to seeing how.

Of course, the best part of the episode was not just hearing Solider Blue speak, but seeing his mouth move --- knowing that he's still in this show as a main character makes me cry tears of joy. Its hard to describe into words how happy i was to see that happen.

Solider Blue = candidate for one of the best characters ever. :3

I'm glad they decided to keep him around a bit longer to be a mentor for Jomy. Curious as to how much longer though...

The next episode is focusing on Keith. Both him and Sam are on the station from the looks of the preview. I wonder if we're going to timejump in this episode? I'm guessing a time jump either next episode or the episode after. Episode 7 is supposedly called "Shiroe of the Rebellion." That probably means that we'll be seeing Shiroe on the Station. If that's the case then there has to be a 4 year time jump at least. Shiroe is 10 right now and he won't get to the station until his maturity check at 14.

Questions is...are they going to actually keep Soldier Blue alive all this time? Seems odd for him to be on the brink of death for 4 years. Or perhaps he will get better, but get into another fight protecting the Mu and then die. Or maybe he will die in episode 5 before the timejump. I guess we'll see. I kinda hope they'll keep him around for few more episodes at least. I do realize he HAS to die at some point. It's necessary for Jomy's own growth and development as a Mu and as a leader. I just don't want it to be too soon.

Blaat

2007-05-09, 01:54

After seeing the movie there's one question that boggles me, regarding the remake:

Jomy is going to have baby with a little girl?

zalem

2007-05-09, 10:01

After seeing the movie there's one question that boggles me, regarding the remake:

Jomy is going to have baby with a little girl?

Well, she's not a little girl when she has the child. She's all grown up, so it's ok.

Sinestra

2007-05-09, 13:02

looks Jomy is starting to accept his desitny little by little. He has made progress since the last time he flipped out and detroyed the research lab, although he still cant contol his inner voice but the crew members seem to have become acustom to it. Although he had progress his troubled mind and the fact that he is still adolecent is going to make his journey a bumpy one. Have that much power but not the mental maturity to control it is a problem. The evidence is show in his tatrums which he pouts and runs away. I hope that over time as he learns to contol his powers he will grow to understand events around as an adul

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-09, 21:31

Part of Jomy's problem is that the Mu dont WANT to accept him, and dont want to u8nderstand why he's so troubled. So dfar the only people to show any sort of kindness to him are Leo and the red headed kid. Soldier Blue and Physis are sort of, but i think a large part of it stems from their desire for him to lead the Mu, more than actual kindness. Though im sure they arent as bad as the rest.

If the Mu took the time to try and understand Jomy a bit better he wouldnt have such a hard time of it. Frankly in his position i think id be reacting the same. Even the leaders dont show any kindness, makes me feel sorry for him to be honest.

After all, he's not there because he wants to be there, he was forced there against his will. If blue hadnt interupted his adulthood exam he may never have become Mu. So in a way the Mu are the cause of all of Jomy's pain, and now he has to lead them.

zalem

2007-05-10, 13:12

Episode 6 caps are up in the gallery section of the official site:
http://terra-e.com/index_gallery.html

Iwanihana

2007-05-12, 09:04

Summary of Episode 6 is up (http://irohanihoheto.typepad.com/toward_the_terra/2007/05/episode_06_stat.html).

Triker

2007-05-12, 10:13

Iwanihana

2007-05-13, 03:27

After reading the summary of episode 6, a question pops up in my mind.

"He tells Keith about an old friend of his, Jomy."
I am curious why Sam still remembers Jomy. Wasn't his memory erased in adult screening test?

The setting of the manga has it that you retain only a faint memory of you past after the adult screening test. It is also mentioned in the anime.

Edgewalker

2007-05-14, 00:48

Its pretty good so far..one question: Is this really a mecha anime ?

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-14, 02:44

No, and it wasnt billed as one was it?

JediNight

2007-05-16, 03:56

I've had the first episode of this show sitting on my drive for over a month now, and I finally got around to catching up now that the semester is ending. This has to be possibly the #1 underrated show for the season to me. Haven't heard anyone really talking about it, but it's been excellent so far. The VA cast is top-notch too.

NoSanninWa

2007-05-16, 04:09

Indeed it is. This classic anime revived from the 70s (and early 80s) shows that the creators were fans of the original who wanted to improve on the original.

JediNight

2007-05-16, 04:27

Interesting -- Mother Eliza nearly got everyone on the ship killed just to secretly test Keith... 0_o;;

And the Ep7 preview has like 4 years pass wow... so are we just supposed to assume that Jomy and the Galactica, I mean Shangri-la have been heading towards Earth for 4 years? ;) Or will they skip back and forth in the timeline I wonder.

PS: In the A-E/Saizen release it should be vernier, not burner. Although I don't expect a v2 just for that, but for future reference.

Scab

2007-05-16, 05:12

PS: In the A-E/Saizen release it should be vernier, not burner. Although I don't expect a v2 just for that, but for future reference.
On behalf of the translator, I think I'll blame that on Keith's pronunciation (http://www.saizen-fansubs.com/dl/vernier.wav). ^^;

Anyway, I QC these episodes, so I'll keep that in mind for future checks. :)

JediNight

2007-05-16, 05:54

Burner would be something like バーナー　while he says バーにアー　but w/e it's not terribly important, just something I heard.

MrProphet

2007-05-16, 10:16

I was putting off watching the episodes after the first one for some reason, and now I realized how wrong that was.

Terra E is excellent. The pacing of the plot is good, the characters are interesting and I am actually excited about watching the next episode. A very good series, I must say.

PS: Ha-ha. I am glad I am not the only one who saw the similarities between the μ ship and Galactica. Especially now, if the United Human Army is going to pursue them to Earth. 8)

-Tock-

2007-05-16, 19:31

This serries looks very promising ^_^
But now people have pointed it out, there are lots of parallels to Galactica o_o
But anyway,How are they going to bring everyone together when Jomy is off on a ship and everyone else is at the station I wonder '-'

JediNight

2007-05-16, 23:33

Well the original movie that the TV series is based on pre-dates Galactica afaik. And the storyline only very loosely parallels some parts of Galactica... it was mostly just a tongue-in-cheek comment for a joke.

[spoiler=Speculation]Well in the preview it said that Sam and Swena were now Members candidates, so I wonder if that was because of them working with Keith. At any rate, I expect that they will graduate and be assigned to a ship that is sent out to persue the Shangrila. And then the inevitable reunion of Sam and Swena when they are shocked to find out that Jomy is now the leader of the Mu.

MrProphet

2007-05-17, 08:49

Well, the original manga came out in 1977-1980, while Battlestar Galactica started airing in 1978.

I too was only half-joking about the similarities (though, they are there!). I guess you can attribute them more to the Zeitgeist of those days. Perhaps this was the kind of story that was relevant at the time.

lightbringer

2007-05-17, 11:45

Some people posted some major spoilers not too long ago in response to some questions I asked. But I'm warning you, they are MAJOR spoilers for the whole series and ending. Click if you dare. :) Curious how much the movie differs from the manga. I found a copy of it finally, but haven't gotten around to watching it.

So I finally went and read the whole thread, and found those spoilers you mentioned. I almost wish I didn't. This'll be a rough ride from here on out.

zalem

2007-05-17, 11:50

Hey, I warned you. :)

Though it's possible they might change some things. Who knows...

Ori

2007-05-19, 00:25

Stopped watching anime for a few weeks. Decided to pick up To Terra for some reasons. It was a lucky good choice.

Keith is definately my favorite character so far. I hope he gets a big role later cause I don't like Jomy that much.

Shiroe in the preview of episode 7 is getting on my nerve. Not that I liked him when he appeared in episode 5, but it seems like he grew worse in between.

Perhaps I am just pure evil, but seriously, I would not mind seeing bad things happen to him (Like seeing Keith beat him up or something).

lightbringer

2007-05-19, 09:02

Perhaps I am just pure evil, but seriously, I would not mind seeing bad things happen to him (Like seeing Keith beat him up or something).

I'll second that. But with him being what he is, I think tragedy is only a couple of steps away :cool: It's amazing that he made it past the adulthood exam, but I doubt that he'll be able to suppress his nature forever.

Samanosuke

2007-05-20, 12:26

I just started this Serie yesterday .
And i felt it was my duty (:P) to watch the Original movie .
When i read that the series was a remake , I had thought the movie was some kind of prequel . So now i kinda regret having watched it a bit as i realized it wasn't a prequel at all .
But apart from having being spoiled , I loved the movie even thought it wasn't short enough so they didn't had the time to focus on the character development much .
And that's the good thing the series is doing , it's focusing on the character development .
I think this may perhaps be the best series of the season .

lightbringer

2007-05-20, 13:03

Lol duty. I'm a bit cautious since the movie is so old, but since many posters here say it's worth it, I guess I'll have to watch it after all. This series was really shit when it started out but has been improving tremendously ever since episode 3. Must be due to being based on a cool story :D

Samanosuke

2007-05-20, 13:05

Yeah , well the movie is old , and if you download it , the quality of the video won't give credit to the movie . But definitely , it was a great movie .

lightbringer

2007-05-20, 13:58

Mostly I'm just curious about the story, and am already prepared for bad video... the spoilers earlier in the thread really whetted my appetite :)

Ori

2007-05-21, 04:14

And episode 7... I was totally right about Shiroe. He is really really annoying.

lightbringer

2007-05-21, 22:35

So, now that I've spoiled myself silly by watching the movie, here's a brain dump while it's still fresh in my mind. I think it's safe to post here, since we've already been discussing the movie in this thread and all that...

Shiroei's role is surprisingly minor, and he dies really early on. Shiroei haters will be glad. I was actually expecting much more from him, but I guess he is just a background detail to justify Keith's actions later on when he takes a certain other Mu under his wing.

Sam is useless too, especially after they erase his memories of Jomy. Nuff said. But on the other hand, it looks like he's getting a bigger role in the series.

Swena is an anime invention, unless she was in the manga. It's cool though, more female characters is a good thing (unless they all happen to be mecha pilots, in which case the director and animators all deserve to get shot)

Karina is already grown up at the start of the movie (which spans, at the very least, 18 years and 9 months, but most likely is even longer), so I think the new series will actually take longer than that.

Tony evolves, growing up by at least five years in the span of a couple of minutes. Major WTF moment. There's a limit to the kinds of powers you can ascribe to telepaths, you know. And what does he say? "I've grown because you need my help". Oh noes! Bring out the tissues...

Speaking about WTF, Keith didn't have to shoot Jomy at the end. He was already pretty much free of the Grand Mother Computer, so it's stupid. And since Keith dies too, and Tony leaves for some distant star with his sidekick über-Mu in tow, is Physis supposed to lead Terra now? She's the one character I wish they'd have gotten rid of early on, but ironically she's the last (wo)man standing...

The whole unpredictable element to control the equation thing is probably the source for a certain *cough Matrix cough* other movie's inspiration. At least, I don't remember anything like it in any pre-80ies science fiction literature (and I've read quite a bit - with the exception of Asimov, so I won't be surprised if he came up with this idea first).

Samanosuke

2007-05-22, 18:10

So , I was at Chapters today and i picked up "to Terra" volume two for a quick read ( cuz volume one wasn't anywhere to be seen ) and this is what i noted ( differences and such )

- Tony isn't Jomy's son. But Karina is still his mother.
Apparently Jomy had allowed her to marry with Tony's father .
Which explain why Tony doesn't refer to Jomy in a polite ( or honorific , you choose ) way . although he did called him Granpa.
Also , all the l33t kid from Tony's army / Squadron where naturally born , but only those born on Nazac had psychic powers. There were 9 of them , and they all worship Jomy like a God since they wouldn't have been there if he hadn't allowed them to be. Although Tony did curse his existence being manipulated by Jomy. Not too sure if i got that right since i wasn't really reading and paying attention , i kinda skipped some pages.
- About Sam , apparently , he has a bigger role in the manga , but he basically is the vessel of all the bad luck . What i mean by that is that bad things keeps happening to the poor man who hasn't done anything wrong expect having being Jomy's friend . And of course , they keep erasing his memory over and over , which basically caused him to go crazy. He didn't even recognized Scirroco ..erm i mean..Keith .
- Tony said Physys wasn't a Mu at all , it's just that she received some telepathy from Soldier Blue...but then again , Tony really hates her so I don't know if what he said was completely true.
- Oh right..Mu stands for Mutants ......I never made the connection before :heh: . I'm slow :(
- So overall , the Movie is a good adaptation of the manga , they just had to skip some things such as the chara development because of the time limit , and they added some Drama by making Jomy being Tony's father. But All i just said is based on me having quickly read trough volume two of the manga . I haven't read nor volume one , nor volume two , so they could completely have messed up the end of the movie , i don't know . Also , In the manga , i should note that Jomy reminds me of a dictator at some point . Basically people ( the MU's) sees him as a god.

I'm really curious to see what approach the series will take about Tony. I like the idea of him being Jomy's son better. But that won't happen as Karina seems to be really much younger then him. But then again , i have no clue who Karina is yet. Can Anyone who know who she is ( in the series i mean ) screencap her so that i know . thx.
I already can't wait to see Tony .

lightbringer

2007-05-22, 18:26

Well Karina is the little girl who holds Jomy's hand and asks about his mother in episode 2 or so. Or so people say, I guess that assumption is because they have similar haircuts. I'm too lazy to take a screencap, but you can't miss it, really.

Wait a moment - Karina is both Tony's mother and the wife of Tony's child? That doesn't make any sense lol.

I too like the Karina x Jomy with Tony as their son better. After all, something good has to happen to Jomy before he kicks the bucket. Poor guy. (I really hated him during the first three episodes, but sympathise with him quite a bit after having watched the movie.)

Samanosuke

2007-05-22, 18:29

Ah , i see who she is now . thanks .
Also i edited my previous post , now it should make sense :P

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-22, 19:31

In later eps, if it follows the movie, Kieth becomes as big a role as Jomy. I dont really like keith at the moment, theres just something wrong about him. Shiroe is weird, im not sure what to make of him. He was cute in ep5 in a way, but now he's a total freakazoid.

As for Jomy, i've missed him lol. Hope they get back to him soon. Judging from the time jump we've had already Jomy is now the leader of the Mu, which sucks IMO. Since we could of had atleast 2 eps of tension as he tried to win over the Mu.

Really must see if i can get the manga some how

Ori

2007-05-22, 19:46

Blasphemous! You don't like Keith? ;P

So far, to me, he is totally the kind of anti-hero 'trap' I keep falling for.

The fact he will play a big role is a big reason to why I've decided to keep up with this show.

Tiamat's Disciple

2007-05-22, 20:10

Kieth isnt the anti hero. If it follows the movie he'll become the tragic hero same as jomy

Character wise i like him, im not sure if its the way he's drawn, or the VA, but something makes me hate him with a vengence lol

JediNight

2007-05-23, 07:16

Could you guys PLEASE not spoil the damn story with movie spoilers in plain text? I almost read what Taliesin wrote. And mark that the spoilers are MOVIE spoilers if you put them in a Spoiler tab. As usually we're going to assume it's meant to be episode spoilers for the show...

Triker

2007-05-23, 10:57

I don't hate Shiroe. He is annoying but I don't hate him.

I don't know if other people remember that their memory was erased by the computer. I guess they don't. Anyway my point is that Shiroe's nightmare about memory erased might related to Jomy. I mean Jomy once told him about memory erasing during the adult screening test. Although Jomy erased Shiroe's memory but there might be some memory left. I think that makes him remember the time when Terra No.5 erased his memory. Recalling that Shiroe loved his papa and mama so much. That's why he hated the system that erased his precious memory about his family. I think he challenged Keith because he felt that Keith is the perfect result of "the system" that he hated. He would think that if he can win over Keith, he might not be under controled of "the system"

Is there a possibility that Shiroe is still Mu after the adult screening test? coz other children seems trust the computer but Shiroe is (or might be) the first person to doubt the computer.

ayako

2007-05-23, 13:34

I didn't intend to post anything since I'd rather just sit back and relax as I watch this show, but I agree with Triker. :)

I think Shiroe is just the kind of character we need in the show since no one else in the show ('cept the Mu) oppose the system. I was also wondering just how successful Terra No. 5 was at erasing his memories and whether they were aware of his abilities. Is Shiroe suppressing his own powers (if that's possible)?

I can't wait for the next episode. :)

FatPianoBoy

2007-05-23, 13:57

I was also wondering just how successful Terra No. 5 was at erasing his memories and whether they were aware of his abilities. Is Shiroe supressing his own powers (if that's possible)?

The effect of memory erasure seems to be perpetual. Apparently part of the brain is damaged so as to interfere with the recording of new memories. No one from Keith's past even after the exam remembers him unless they've been in consistent contact with him. It's possible that the brain is altered in such a way as to accelerate the process of forgetting in a way that quickly cleanses the mind of sentimentality while at the same time allowing the person to retain basic skill sets and any knowledge they may need for their job/education.

Shiroe must be suppressing his powers in some way, although I doubt he is conscious of this or is even aware that he possesses them at all. Terras Number 5 would not have allowed him to pass the exam if it detected any kind of anomalous brain activity. It's accuracy should also be quite high due to having so many past examples of Mu samples to reference. If Shiroe does still possess his abilities, which I think is likely given his unusually boyish appearance, then he must have an incredible force of will.

lightbringer

2007-05-23, 14:28

The effect of memory erasure seems to be perpetual. Apparently part of the brain is damaged so as to interfere with the recording of new memories. No one from Keith's past even after the exam remembers him unless they've been in consistent contact with him. It's possible that the brain is altered in such a way as to accelerate the process of forgetting in a way that quickly cleanses the mind of sentimentality while at the same time allowing the person to retain basic skill sets and any knowledge they may need for their job/education.
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The reason why nobody remembers Keith (and why he does not have any memories from before the adulthood exam, at all) is because he is actually a special pet project, born and raised in a hidden tank on the educational station. So it's only natural that nobody remembers him arriving with them on any transport ship - he's been on the station all along.