Clannad Game Translation Project

[velocity7]

The project has been revived and is currently under translation. If you're a translator or willing to help do editing for us, please visit us at:

http://clannad.thewafflehouse.net

P.S. GHDpro approved this post. :)
P.S.S. だんご大家族は素敵です～　えへへ

[FatPianoBoy]

No pr0n in Clannad?
I just may end up helping out with this :D

Edit: Provided I can wrap my head around the formatting :twitch:

[velocity7]

Well, formatting exists so translators/editors get control over things like if pause events and the like occur, so there's a good reason why it's there.

[FatPianoBoy]

I understand the purpose. What I don't understand is what I (the translator) am supposed do about it, given that I have no idea how it works.

[Onizuka-GTO]

I understand the purpose. What I don't understand is what I (the translator) am supposed do about it, given that I have no idea how it works.


I thought Translators suppose to change gobble-giddy into English?

Or I'm I wrong? :p

[FatPianoBoy]

I thought Translators suppose to change gobble-giddy into English?

Or I'm I wrong? :p

Japanese gobble-giddy, yes, but this programming stuff (http://project.baka-tsuki.net/index.php?title=Clannad:Guidelines) is moonspeak to me :confused:
I understand how much easier it is on the editors for the translators to preserve/enter all this stuff as they're going through, and I'm willing to do cooperate, but I'm at least eight years behind in computer science (the last computer we bought was advertised to be Y2K compatible) :heh:
It says that if you can't abide by the guidelines to just post your translation in <pre> tags, but I'm loathe to do that, since I can imagine what the poor soul who has to edit it will go through. Mostly what I don't get is this stuff: Event tags such as "\size{}", "\p", "\r", etc. should be preserved at all times. If different positioning is required for creative/technical reasons, don't hesitate to make such changes.
# Unless the Japanese text has used it, "\r" and "\n" cannot be used at all. We already have automatic line breaking in place, so there's no need to do line breaking on your part, unless the script calls for it (for example, two people speak at the same time).

EXCEPTION: For people with voice patches... if the script calls for certain event tags such as pauses to be replaced by \wait{} due to some issues from transferring the PS2 script to PC, please make those changes and comment them in as necessary.


I'm fine with keeping all the coding the same, but how do I know when to change something and what to change it to?

[velocity7]

Well, for example, if it's something like

"nani ka \pukotteiru deshou"

the original line was

"nani ka ukotteiru deshou"

which translates to

"What might have happened?"

Use your own discretion on where the \p goes.

The EXCEPTION does apply, but if you don't have a copy of the game handy to listen to the voices and see how the event turns out, don't worry about it. Just preserve the event tag as necessary, and it will be dealt with later.

As for the \m{A} and \m{B}, that's just naming. \m{} simply gets the name that's saved in Options.

[FatPianoBoy]

Ah, okay. I think I've got most of it now.

Two more things: how do I know which name is saved in options? There are five names with the \m{A} tag.
Also, are we going from the PC game or the PS2 version? I assumed PC, but I don't think that version has any voice work.

[velocity7]

Actually, that stuff was spoilers. I modified the Guidelines as necessary so that won't be there anymore. Besides, they all call the same thing.

We'll be translating the PC version, it's exactly the same as the PS2. Though at the moment, I'm working off a voice patch. :p

If we finish this and people demand a PS2 version, I may consider it.

[FatPianoBoy]

Spoilers? :mad:
Well, I'll be getting spoiled when I start translating, so it's not big deal, I guess. I edited it out of that post just the same, though.
Now I can finally get to work :D

[Onizuka-GTO]

i like spoilers.

:)

[Theclow]

i like spoilers.

:)

Spoilers make the world go round, good luck with the translation FPB.

[velocity7]

We officially hit the 20% translated mark. Thank you everyone for your support! Please help the project move faster! :)

[hadora]

Reading the translation, I remarked you didn't translate what the girl shouted at the end of the fantasy world.
It basically reveal her identity but it only appear in a short fmv.
It's been a while since I last played the game but If I remember correctly, It's
Good-bye papa

[velocity7]

That's meant for the graphics stuff. I realize those scenes are there, but they aren't part of the SEEN files, so that's why that part hasn't been translated there, mind you. ;)

[velocity7]

For those who haven't been watching carefully, I've uploaded a new set of formatted UTF script files for people to work with. It should theoretically make inserting text into the script really easy.

[FatPianoBoy]

A cookie for you, velocity, for removing 90% of the tedium from this task and increasing my motivation to do it :D
That must have taken years to go through all that :heh:

[velocity7]

Actually no, I simply wrote a program to do all the auto-formatting. Didn't really think about it before.

[velocity7]

Sorry FatPianoBoy, please use these files:

http://clannad.thewafflehouse.net/files/clannad_txt_utf8_clean.rar

Seems I forgot to upload the version that involved the \{\m{B} problem vs. \{\m{B}}.

[Onizuka-GTO]

lol.

go get an irc channel you two!

:p

[boggart]

As quoted from the Dango Daikazoku translation team over at Baka-Tsuki:

September 17, 2007 - Kotomi's route complete, translation status: 74%
Everything looks like it's coming along just nicely!

[velocity7]

I lack the ability to update the splash page on a more consistent basis. :(

But hey, if you check Recent Changes on the wiki, you'll always see there's at least something going on. For the most part. ;)

[boggart]

Wish I had more time to help out with the editing over there... :(

But I guess since I still haven't gone through the game yet, it's likely I would get spoiled even if I did commit myself to the editing team.

[Kinny Riddle]

Wish I had more time to help out with the editing over there... :(

But I guess since I still haven't gone through the game yet, it's likely I would get spoiled even if I did commit myself to the editing team.
Just edit each individual section as you play along, like what I am doing right now. velocity7 has designed the wiki into separate sections for each character (and into different "days" as well), so you won't be spoiled if you avoid reading a section before you read it in the game itself.

[Calawain]

I appreciate the work everyone is doing on this project, especially velocity7. Looking forward to the eventual final release so I can buy the game!

[ayukanon45]

so, can i read whats ready so far?

[OceanBlue]

Is there anything us non-Japanese speakers can do to help the project?

[Hansi]

Hi! I'm Hansi, a Spanish Key Fan. Here in Spain, a group of people is very interested in creating their own patch, that would be able to translate the novel to the Spanish.
I take to long time looking for the method to create the patch, but we, without help, are not able. You can help us?
Thank you very much by your attention, we waited for answer.

[Takuto19]

Really looking forward to the translation release, not understanding japanese kinda sucks sometimes :(

[Proto]

Just in case anyone was wondering, the game runs under wine on a Linux installation

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/896/screenshotox9.th.jpg (http://img129.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotox9.jpg)

However, you have to do some work to get the Japanese locale working. However, every step needed is described in this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=383628) thread from the ubuntu forums. Installation for other distros should be pretty similar

[velocity7]

I'm up for supporting Linux after I've finished with getting the entire thing done for Windows at least. Will need a bit of time, and a lot programmers looking at how good xclannad can get the job done with the current RLdev code as it is.

[kwerks]

Is there anything us non-Japanese speakers can do to help the project?

You can donate money to relief their hourly efforts donated to this project. :heh:

[narmi]

*phew* I can't wait for this project to be finished.

[velocity7]

I just finished translating Nagisa's route! \o/

We are now at 86%!

[Takuto19]

Wooo, can't wait til it's done :)

Keep up the awsome work.

[fuzzles]

i'm so excited my hands are shaking

[Proto]

I just finished translating Nagisa's route! \o/

We are now at 86%!

You are just awesome man. :p I doubt more than a handful of translators can keep up with for your pace. Not that it counts for much, but I for one can't. Keep up the good work!

[Kristen]

This is just awesome! I didn't think Nagisa's route would be finished until the 22nd at the earliest. :) Maybe my Christmas translation phase completion prediction wasn't too far off.

In the editing phase, do you need to know Japanese in order to participate? Or is it just checking to see if it is in proper English?

[velocity7]

Even though translation would likely be done by then, proofreading is still a very big necessity.

Editors don't need to know Japanese, but that would be helpful. The most important part is proper English spelling/grammar, but if changes demand that the meaning of a sentence be changed, that is better left to a proficient Japanese translator.

[stonedzombie]

Sweet! Now I just gotta hope my computer can run it.

[Stifler]

Sweet! Keep up the good work!

[Raykun]

sweet I can't wait keep up the good work ^^

[2H-Dragon]

Keep it up. It's all up to you guys when I play my first eroge.:blush:

[Ascaloth]

Keep it up. It's all up to you guys when I play my first eroge.:blush:

[HARUHI MODE]CLANNAD IS NOT AN EROGE!!!!![/HARUHI MODE]

:p

[2H-Dragon]

[HARUHI MODE]CLANNAD IS NOT AN EROGE!!!!![/HARUHI MODE]

:p

I knew I should have called it a Visual Novel, but eroge sounds so much cooler. What's the difference btw?

[Mizuno]

eroge is 18+, clannad is for all ages.

[Ascaloth]

I knew I should have called it a Visual Novel, but eroge sounds so much cooler. What's the difference btw?

Well, there's a reason for the term eroge...

In that respect, CLANNAD does not have any ero scenes, so it can hardly be called an eroge.

[Itadakimasu!]

Eroge just makes you sound that much more otaku :P btw good work on getting to 86 or so %... can't wait!

[2H-Dragon]

Well, there's a reason for the term eroge...

In that respect, CLANNAD does not have any ero scenes, so it can hardly be called an eroge.

Oh awesome. I was thinking it had ero scene's since I air had them. This just makes it so much better. Since one of the reason for me for not stepping in the Visual Novel world was, because of that.

[Klashikari]

Oh awesome. I was thinking it had ero scene's since I air had them. This just makes it so much better. Since one of the reason for me for not stepping in the Visual Novel world was, because of that.
Most of the times, eroge VN (since eroge is a general mention for any game with +18 material, not only VN) are solely based on the plot, and the ero scenes are "rewards".
Seriously, these are not even part of importance of a VN story (some exception though), thus It shouldn't really change anything for the plot itself.

The fact there are ero scenes in a said VN doesn't lower its quality at all. It is ridiculous to think that if you remove them, the thing would be better. that's a mistake.
More likely, you can simply skip by using CTRL for most VN anyway. (That said, many people are missing gems like Tsukihime, just because of the mere mention of ero... *sigh* )

[Kaioshin Sama]

Yes, for some reason people assume that an ero scene in a VN cheapens it somehow and makes it an overall weaker game. I personally think if it becomes intrusive to the main plot it might, but then again if that were the case it probably isn't a game worth playing for the plot anyway. Sex is a natural part of life, and I don't think people really need to be afraid of it.

I still love how people get so upset when somebody calls Clannad an eroge though. I doubt anybody means it as an insult, nor should it be considered as such really.

[2H-Dragon]

Yes, for some reason people assume that an ero scene in a VN cheapens it somehow and makes it an overall weaker game. I personally think if it becomes intrusive to the main plot it might, but then again if that were the case it probably isn't a game worth playing for the plot anyway. Sex is a natural part of life, and I don't think people really need to be afraid of it.

Yeah, but it's more like with which characters say with Air or even with Kanon. I really can't see any of those character doing it anytime soon. >.>

The real reason I am not playing Visual Novels is probably because the games I want to play have no translations out. Though only 2 games I want to play are Kanon and Clannad. xD

OT:Just wondering if I get Kanon with the patch(was like 50% completed). Are there actual rootes that are completed? If yes which ones?

[dgreater1]

I still love how people get so upset when somebody calls Clannad an eroge though. I doubt anybody means it as an insult, nor should it be considered as such really.

At least it's much better to tell them that it's not an Erotic game than letting them have an idea for a long time that it's an Erotic game. And I am not upset at all if some peeps call them erogame since people thought that KEY games are erotic, they just don't have an idea, that's what I always kept in mind.

[Kaioshin Sama]

It least it's much better to tell them that it's not an Erotic game than letting them have an idea for a long time that it's an Erotic game. And I am not upset at all if some peeps call them erogame since people thought that KEY games are erotic, they just don't have an idea, that's what I always kept in mind.

That's true as well, if that's what's somebody's looking for, Clannad isn't going to be up their alley. Excellent point.

[rg4619]

OT:Just wondering if I get Kanon with the patch(was like 50% completed). Are there actual rootes that are completed?

No. Roughly the first half of the game was translated (all character routes partially complete), some routes a bit more complete than others.

I personally think if it becomes intrusive to the main plot it might, but then again if that were the case it probably isn't a game worth playing for the plot anyway.

The problem is that

a) with the "pure love" genre, ero scenes are often tacked on, with little to no buildup. In some cases, the romantic element isn't developed enough (if at all) to justify sexual situations

b) often, these scenes are horribly written, with the scenarist (clearly not an erotica writer) hastily throwing them together to satisfy a market expectation

[Divini]

The problem is that

a) with the "pure love" genre, ero scenes are often tacked on, with little to no buildup. In some cases, the romantic element isn't developed enough (if at all) to justify sexual situations

b) often, these scenes are horribly written, with the scenarist (clearly not an erotica writer) hastily throwing them together to satisfy a market expectation

This is mostly true but...

I have to say Crescendo blew that stereotype out of the water... the ero scenes in that game flowed in with the story near flawlessly, and the scenes were extremely well portrayed.

However many of the games with really really good plots, like Key's Kanon and Air, I definitely agree with you on those points.

[Master Anime]

I found CLANNAD English Translation Patch compiled from transalation in Baka-Tsuki
You can found in here (http://aoi.hiranomoe.com/upload/Seen-0.92.rar)
And if you find any bug you can report in here (http://aoindonesia.net/showthread.php?t=1232) too
And I almost forgot to mention this patch only work with CLANNAD + Voice Patch
To use this patch only overwrite file Seen.txt in CLANNAD installation folder

[velocity7]

I'm not sure if that patch works, as there are a lot of hacks we introduced into the code that may cause issues. Not to mention, the wiki changes on a daily basis, so a lot of the changes come in may not make it into that particular patch. That said, I haven't tried that patch, but I would advise against using it for the time being.

EDIT: Not to mention registering for that forum is horrendous. Requiring introduction and everything? =/

[Master Anime]

ha ha sorry for the strict registration in the forum
because if the forum registration is not strict like that the spambot will attacked forum again

[GyroidFanatic]

I'm not sure if that patch works, as there are a lot of hacks we introduced into the code that may cause issues. Not to mention, the wiki changes on a daily basis, so a lot of the changes come in may not make it into that particular patch. That said, I haven't tried that patch, but I would advise against using it for the time being.

EDIT: Not to mention registering for that forum is horrendous. Requiring introduction and everything? =/
As long as it works just a wee bit, it'll be good enough for me

[OceanBlue]

And I almost forgot to mention this patch only work with CLANNAD + Voice Patch

What? I don't remember there being an announcement that the patch will only work with the voiced version of CLANNAD.

[bladeofdarkness]

i have a qustion that i need to ask any one who has the game

i dl 2 diffrent versions of the game and in both as soon as i press start game
the screen turns black and the subtitle bar pops up and music starts
but the leaf icon turns from green to grey and no words show on the bar
nothing happens after that and as soon as i click even once the game goes into the no response fase and windows shuts it down
i am using vista on my pc but the same thing happens when i use xp
i dont know what is the problem and would really hope that there is someone out there that can help me with this
ps i have not installed the patch
i cant even run the jap version

[GyroidFanatic]

What? I don't remember there being an announcement that the patch will only work with the voiced version of CLANNAD.
This version was compiled in a way that requires it. Baka-Tsuki still doesn't even know how they're going to release the final/official version of it.

[GyroidFanatic]

i have a qustion that i need to ask any one who has the game

i dl 2 diffrent versions of the game and in both as soon as i press start game
the screen turns black and the subtitle bar pops up and music starts
but the leaf icon turns from green to grey and no words show on the bar
nothing happens after that and as soon as i click even once the game goes into the no response fase and windows shuts it down
i am using vista on my pc but the same thing happens when i use xp
i dont know what is the problem and would really hope that there is someone out there that can help me with this
ps i have not installed the patch
i cant even run the jap versionIt's because your computer isn't set to Japanese, so the game can't load the Japanese fonts.

[Master Anime]

What? I don't remember there being an announcement that the patch will only work with the voiced version of CLANNAD.
This patch using baka-tsuki transalation but compiled by my friend.
because my friend heard baka tsuki only released patch for CLANNAD non voice

[GyroidFanatic]

I got it working. I thought it was broke because of how the first X lines were still in Japanese. Didn't expect that.

[minhtam1638]

Time out, is translation complete or is it like 57% or something? (wait, 57% is the Kanon one...)

[GyroidFanatic]

Time out, is translation complete or is it like 57% or something? (wait, 57% is the Kanon one...)

It's at 86%, with all of what's remaining being in (what I assume to be) the after school arc.

[tripperazn]

Time out, is translation complete or is it like 57% or something? (wait, 57% is the Kanon one...)

Well...the Baka-Tsuki site says 86% translation complete over a month ago. However, if they're going at the same rate, it will be close to 100% which is probably why there is a working patch right now. However, the translated text needs some extensive editing, even on the earlier pages.

Translation is nearing completion, but editing, QC, and play testing I would assume are just beginning.

[bladeofdarkness]

It's because your computer isn't set to Japanese, so the game can't load the Japanese fonts

i can see kanji and hiragana on the web and stuff so i dont think thats the problem

but just in case what do i do of it is

[IRJustman]

Well...the Baka-Tsuki site says 86% translation complete over a month ago.

I don't know how much that has changed; velocity7 can probably fill you in better than I could. Not to mention, since publication of that figure, others in the Baka-Tsuki community may have contributed translation that hasn't been accounted for in that figure just yet.

--Ian.

[boggart]

As quoted by velocity7 earlier in the year:

I lack the ability to update the splash page on a more consistent basis. :(

But hey, if you check Recent Changes on the wiki, you'll always see there's at least something going on. For the most part. ;)

For me, I don't see the need for any rush. If the end product is anything like the Planetarian patch, I'll be more than glad.

[Proto]

i can see kanji and hiragana on the web and stuff so i dont think thats the problem

but just in case what do i do of it is

Firefox/IE use a different encoding and font rendering system than the rest of the operative system. For enabling Japanese support:

1) Have your Windows install CD handy
2) Go to the Control Panel - > date,time,Language and Regional Configuration -> Third tab -> click on the japanese checkbox -> apply -> follow on-screen instructions. (or follow (http://newton.uor.edu/Departments&Programs/AsianStudiesDept/Language/asianlanguageinstallation_XP.html) this practical guide, and only follow the instructions for Japanese.)

[GyroidFanatic]

Close. You also have to have your system locale set to Japanese. Do this:
http://library.ust.hk/faq/faq-locale.html

But set it to Japanese instead of Chinese, obviously. Vista comes with built-in support to read Asian languages, but Clannad crashed the same as yours did until I did this.

[Joachim]

ha ha sorry for the strict registration in the forum
because if the forum registration is not strict like that the spambot will attacked forum again

man, i already introduce myself and still can't access the link u gave to report the bug and stuff

yea the seen.txt works fine, its just that the first scene just don't get translated

anyway velocity7 i can't access projectbakatsuki.. always connection time out :(

[Shinigami_Mello]

So to use the patch when it's done, I have to buy the game and then download the patch to go over it?

I cant wait till it's done! It would be alot of fun.

[bladeofdarkness]

Close. You also have to have your system locale set to Japanese. Do this:
http://library.ust.hk/faq/faq-locale.html

But set it to Japanese instead of Chinese, obviously. Vista comes with built-in support to read Asian languages, but Clannad crashed the same as yours did until I did this
GyroidFanatic
dude you fucking rock
i o u big time
and by the way i dont have the voice patch and it works fine for me
or maybe i do and i dont understand what it means "voice patch"
does that mean that the characters are suposed to talk or just the music and sfx

[Master Anime]

man, i already introduce myself and still can't access the link u gave to report the bug and stuff

yea the seen.txt works fine, its just that the first scene just don't get translated

anyway velocity7 i can't access projectbakatsuki.. always connection time out :(
After you introduce yourself you must wait for mod or admin to approve your post and after that you can acces other thread
and to access that CLANNAD translation patch thread you must join ecchi-group in User CP becaus CLANNAD thread located in Eroge & Galge
and if you're to lazy to do that you can give your report to me via this thread or PM me and I will your delivered your message to bug report thread

And I want to ask you are your ID in AOI is ivan86 ? if yes your ID already can post in others thread

[Joachim]

After you introduce yourself you must wait for mod or admin to approve your post and after that you can acces other thread
and to access that CLANNAD translation patch thread you must join ecchi-group in User CP becaus CLANNAD thread located in Eroge & Galge
and if you're to lazy to do that you can give your report to me via this thread or PM me and I will your delivered your message to bug report thread

And I want to ask you are your ID in AOI is ivan86 ? if yes your ID already can post in others thread

thanks, yes thats me :) now how do i join groups? sorry if i ask you too many questions, its kinda hard to navigate there, maybe due to some language barrier :D

[Master Anime]

To join group
all you need is to User CP and select group memberships and you can join ecchi-Ecchi group
and don't worry User Control Panel still english not indonesia

[bladeofdarkness]

and now i have a dilema on my hands
i got the game to run but if i play it i spoil the plot of the show
and clannad is the one show of the season that im actually following
its the only thing keeping me going during the week
anyone who played the game and is watching the show and cares to give advice
i would really welcome it

[tripperazn]

and now i have a dilema on my hands
i got the game to run but if i play it i spoil the plot of the show
and clannad is the one show of the season that im actually following
its the only thing keeping me going during the week
anyone who played the game and is watching the show and cares to give advice
i would really welcome it

Think about it this way...if you follow the show instead, don't you spoil the game?

I haven't started the game yet (installed, no patch as of now), but just some food for thought.

[Klashikari]

It really depends how people enjoy either th game or anime actually.
That aside, the "problem" here is the fact the anime will be obviously faster than the game, and the later is pretty long (I played Misae's route only so far, but it is really big, despite i could read it is the shortest route in the game).

In such case, it would be actually better to finish the anime first, as you would probably still have things to discover in the game (skipped points etc). The reversed way works only as "enjoy to see the major plot points being animated, and how the script is adapted", as I believe everything in the anime is already in the game.

Another possibility is to actually play the "secondary character" paths first, though we still don't have a guarantee of how the anime will end (as it might turn into more than 1 season...)

[bladeofdarkness]

It really depends how people enjoy either th game or anime actually.
That aside, the "problem" here is the fact the anime will be obviously faster than the game, and the later is pretty long (I played Misae's route only so far, but it is really big, despite i could read it is the shortest route in the game).

In such case, it would be actually better to finish the anime first, as you would probably still have things to discover in the game (skipped points etc). The reversed way works only as "enjoy to see the major plot points being animated, and how the script is adapted", as I believe everything in the anime is already in the game.

Another possibility is to actually play the "secondary character" paths first, though we still don't have a guarantee of how the anime will end (as it might turn into more than 1 season...)

doubt about 2nd season since kyo-ani will have more importent things to do (:Dharuhi:D) so thats not likely
at least not in the near future
but what do you mean the misae's route
isnt that like saying sayuri's or akiko's route
i mean isnt she a side character
how can she have a route

[tripperazn]

doubt about 2nd season since kyo-ani will have more importent things to do (:Dharuhi:D) so thats not likely
at least not in the near future
but what do you mean the misae's route
isnt that like saying sayuri's or akiko's route
i mean isnt she a side character
how can she have a route

All of the side characters have extensive backstories, there is enough text there to call each of them an "arc". Obviously, it's not a romantic relationship, but there is still a lot of character development.

Clannad is a huge game (mine is 2.7 GB), now you know why. The side character arcs probably take up a lot of unique CGs.


That aside, the "problem" here is the fact the anime will be obviously faster than the game, and the later is pretty long

I think it really depends on how much time you want to devote to the visual novel. Clannad (TV) is going on a one month hiatus soon and will probably end around April 2008. Will you finish in 5 months? If there is no second season that is.

[minhtam1638]

doubt about 2nd season since kyo-ani will have more importent things to do (:Dharuhi:D) so thats not likely
at least not in the near future
but what do you mean the misae's route
isnt that like saying sayuri's or akiko's route
i mean isnt she a side character
how can she have a route

KyoAni might do a 2nd season of Clannad after Haruhi, which is already under contract and development.

And unlike Kanon, Clannad has routes for the side characters as well, so you do get to know pretty much everyone.

[dgreater1]

doubt about 2nd season since kyo-ani will have more importent things to do (haruhi) so thats not likely
at least not in the near future
but what do you mean the misae's route
isnt that like saying sayuri's or akiko's route
i mean isnt she a side character
how can she have a route

If you know how long CLANNAD game is, you probably will have second thoughts on that, anyway, we're at Eps. 12, and the only finished arc is Fuuko... I can see them fitting the Tomoya's school life with the girls in a 24 eps. but including the after story? I don't think so. The chance is, a 24 eps then a break, then the continuation which can fit in a 6 to 12 eps. But that's just my opinion. And yes, they have they're own stories which can possibly be an entire episode. Specially, I think the transition from school life to after story will look weird if they decide to do it 24eps. :heh::heh::heh:

[Takuto19]

Yeah it depends how many of the arcs Kyo-Ani are planning on doing, with the 24 epsiodes planned and only Fuuko's arc is finished and almost half way through, unless there gonna leave some peoples arcs out, such as Misae's, which i can see them doing.

I would love to see a second season and doing the other arcs that might be left out but to be honest i can't see it, but you never know.

[Proto]

Personally I think I'll wait for baka tsuki final release. Everyone over there has put so mcuh effort towards it, that I think it is only respectful to wait for what they consider is the final release.

[dgreater1]

Problem is, even if they cut out those side character's stories, the story of the 5 girl can still span up to 24 eps., and After Story isn't included in that equation yet, that's why there's a big possibility that they'll do a 24+12 or possibly just 6 (we wouldn't like to see a TOEI version of CLANNAD now do we or another confusing AIR?). Anyway, we're on Eps. 12 now, let's assume Kotomi will have 4 episode. So perhaps, it will end on Eps, 14, then Kyou can have a 3 eps. since she's already build up her route because of her constant screen time (we're now 17 eps.), after that, Tomoyo, might kicked some 4 eps. as well, making it, 21 eps., now, we have Nagisa's school life which we can say, 3 eps. See what I mean, the only story KyoAni might tackle this season is about Tomoya's school life. I already cut out those side stories despite I don't think it will be cut out. Oh... I forgot Mei (the blue pony tailed haired loli in OP sequence), anyway, let's ignore her, they showed her, so she should appear later XD

Also, CLANNAD script story > AIR+KANON combined. I think the ratio is 5:4,

assuming we remove the side character's stories... the ratio will be 1:1 which is still big because we're talking about a script that equal's AIR+KANON combined.

Which reminds me... shouldn't this discussion be in the speculation thread? :heh::heh::heh::heh:

[Takuto19]

Personally I think I'll wait for baka tsuki final release. Everyone over there has put so mcuh effort towards it, that I think it is only respectful to wait for what they consider is the final release.

I agree, i tested abit of the game with that translation patch and there's still alot thats not been translated in it, such as the Interludes between some days and the opening isn't done either. As well with the option screen and everything.

I'l just wait for Baka-Tsuki's release too, there's will be great when it's done.

[GyroidFanatic]

I'm meeting them half-way and going to the wiki to correct any errors I spot along the way.

[minhtam1638]

Hold on, isn't there a possibility that KyoAni will show both Haruhi and Clannad at the same time?

[Proto]

I guess many world prefer that they mantain their 1 show per season approach. Most companies that try to cover too much end up scattering their budget beyond what is convenient. Moreover, KyoAni's so-called animation prowess is partly because they endevour themselves to a single show per season.

[bladeofdarkness]

wait
is nagisa's after arc as long as tomoyo's after arc


ps (forgot to ask)
does anyone know of any translation project for tomoyo after

[Laiwak]

Wait so, Baka-tsuki is only going to release a patch for CLANNAD non voice? Or are they still deciding whether they are going to or not?

[shikimaru118]

hey guys i am extremely excited about this but i have had no luck in finding a working version of this game if someone can point me in the right direction i would greatly appreciate it.

[tripperazn]

I'll point you in the general direction: http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Clannad

[shikimaru118]

well it looks like your general direction isn't making any since to me as of now but if you could point me to either a dl site or give a little better hint than that i might be able to find it since i am running on almost no sleep for about 35 hours now.

[Shiroth]

well it looks like your general direction isn't making any since to me as of now but if you could point me to either a dl site or give a little better hint than that i might be able to find it since i am running on almost no sleep for about 35 hours now.
You won't find a link to download CLANNAD here. Why don't you do the right thing, and actually buy a copy.

http://www.himeyashop.com/product_info.php/products_id/200

[tripperazn]

You won't find a link to download CLANNAD here. Why don't you do the right thing, and actually buy a copy.

http://www.himeyashop.com/product_info.php/products_id/200

Oh, my bad, I thought you wanted the patch. :heh:

But yeah, make sure to support Key by buying it via himeya. The game itself is $79 and will run you about $20 for shipping if you live in NA. Expensive, yes, but games are almost always cost more in Japan.

[shikimaru118]

i had planned on buying it from the beginning i just didn't have any clue where to go to get it plus i hadn't had any sleep for a day and a half but thanks for the link

[GyroidFanatic]

Anyone else having a freezing problem at the beginning of April 23rd of Fuuko's (and I assume Nagisa's) route? I get a scene with Nagisa with the "students walking to school" background, but no text shows up and I can't even bring up the menu.

[bladeofdarkness]

Anyone else having a freezing problem at the beginning of April 23rd of Fuuko's (and I assume Nagisa's) route? I get a scene with Nagisa with the "students walking to school" background, but no text shows up and I can't even bring up the menu.

im getting the same thing
dont know what to do about it either
could use a hand

[GyroidFanatic]

Then it's probably a problem with the compiled SEEN file

[Takuto19]

Anyone else having a freezing problem at the beginning of April 23rd of Fuuko's (and I assume Nagisa's) route? I get a scene with Nagisa with the "students walking to school" background, but no text shows up and I can't even bring up the menu.

im getting the same thing
dont know what to do about it either
could use a hand

I'm guessing your both using the translation patch....

Hmm, you might be able to get past it by loading the original SEEN (if you made a back-up) file and playing past the bit of text that's broke, then saving, and then putting the translated SEEN file and load the game.

I had a similar problem with Planetarian where i couldn't load the opening movie with the patch so i started it in japanese, saved after the part that was freezing, installed the patch then loaded the game.

Hope this helps.

[GyroidFanatic]

I'm guessing your both using the translation patch....

Hmm, you might be able to get past it by loading the original SEEN (if you made a back-up) file and playing past the bit of text that's broke, then saving, and then putting the translated SEEN file and load the game.

I had a similar problem with Planetarian where i couldn't load the opening movie with the patch so i started it in japanese, saved after the part that was freezing, installed the patch then loaded the game.

Hope this helps.

I just tried it. The game freezes up in a similar way when you load the other language's save file.

[Knight]

Where did you guys get the patch? The site doesn't have a link for it.

[GyroidFanatic]

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1297106&postcount=57

[HashiriyaR32]

Where did you guys get the patch? The site doesn't have a link for it.

I'm stumped as well. Anyone have a link?

[Master Anime]

Please tell me the detail of error
like date, route,what kind of error (crash, freeze, etc), and last line before crash
I will report to SEEN Compiler

Or you can report the error by yourself in here (http://aoindonesia.net/showthread.php?t=1232&page=6)

[GyroidFanatic]

The problem seems to be with the first line on Nagisa's route on April 23rd. Everything is fine except that line won't appear, and the right-click menu won't appear either. The music still plays, and Nagisa and the text box already appeared like normal. When I click the X to close the game, the confirm/deny box pops up like normal too.

[bladeofdarkness]

by the way
is there a translation for tomoyo after in the works

[GyroidFanatic]

by the way
is there a translation for tomoyo after in the worksThe idea's been tossed around a bit, but nothing official has been announced.

[thelok]

The problem seems to be with the first line on Nagisa's route on April 23rd. Everything is fine except that line won't appear, and the right-click menu won't appear either. The music still plays, and Nagisa and the text box already appeared like normal. When I click the X to close the game, the confirm/deny box pops up like normal too.

I also get the same problem, I've tried other older seen files but they don't work either.

[Idogears]

I made some modifications; this should work as a temporary fix until the official unofficial compiler gets a new version out.

http://www.filefactory.com/file/279395/

[GyroidFanatic]

Worked for me, I got past April 23rd. Now I know how Rika feels.

[fireshark]

http://fireshark.name/misc/SEEN_NEW.txt

uses rlbabel 1.5.0.0, glosses, unofficial build, most recent src 10.00pm pst 12-23-07, no responsibility, not b-t product, in b4 barrel roll, etc.

[HashiriyaR32]

Worked for me, I got past April 23rd. Now I know how Rika feels.

Higurashi much?

[GyroidFanatic]

http://fireshark.name/misc/SEEN_NEW.txt

uses rlbabel 1.5.0.0, glosses, unofficial build, most recent src 10.00pm pst 12-23-07, no responsibility, not b-t product, in b4 barrel roll, etc.Tried it. The game starts up to nothing but a text box with "!" in it. Is it supposed to be used with the non-voiced version or something?

[HashiriyaR32]

The game starts up to nothing but a text box with "!" in it

SNAKE? SNAKE!? SNAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yes, I WILL give try out this beta patch soon.

[boggart]

I'm amused at how eager people are jumping onto the unofficial builds of the translation patches. Myself - I'll wait for the one done by velocity7 and the team who actually put the most work into it by way of translations and editing, and not just compiling said group's work into a 'beta' translation patch. CLANNAD deserves nothing less, imho.

[Proto]

For the people trying the unnoficial builds... at least do a little pay back to the original team by spotting editing errors and help out in the revision phase of the script -_-;

[fireshark]

yes, forgot to say that

[GyroidFanatic]

For the people trying the unnoficial builds... at least do a little pay back to the original team by spotting editing errors and help out in the revision phase of the script -_-;
http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/72.64.51.114

All of those have been by me, so yes.

[Proto]

an e-cookie to you

[Tsudaro]

I installed Clannad correctly, but the text doesn't show up. Windows keep popping up that says to install a font, but it doesn't say what font. All it says is r|h|He|5|f|bb| and stuff like that.

I'm using an old OS - Windows ME. Can anyone show me how, or give a link to a site that would show me how to get the Japanese text and the font for the Japanese text?:confused:

[GyroidFanatic]

I installed Clannad correctly, but the text doesn't show up. Windows keep popping up that says to install a font, but it doesn't say what font. All it says is r|h|He|5|f|bb| and stuff like that.

I'm using an old OS - Windows ME. Can anyone show me how, or give a link to a site that would show me how to get the Japanese text and the font for the Japanese text?:confused:
Wow, I didn't think anyone used Windows ME when it came out, let alone now...
And on a related note, I wouldn't know where to find a guide to install East Asian language support on it, but try looking in the control panel for something involving languages.

[Tsudaro]

There's a Regional Settings section, but it doesn't have the option for a Japanese locale. I have Japanese IME with language pack installed, but that only works for the internet, apparently. And what about Japanese fonts? Any specific names I should search for, or should I just do a search for 'Japanese fonts'?

[GyroidFanatic]

Fonts have nothing to do with it in this case. Honestly I'd recommend upgrading to XP. If you're a college student (or know someone who is), there's a good chance you can get it from your school free (and legal) (http://www.msdnaa.net/search/schoolsearch.aspx)

[HashiriyaR32]

Grabbed a free copy of XP Pro SP2 for myself (I'm a University student). Thanks for posting that link.

[Tsudaro]

Another question with this -- can anyone tell me what the the config menu is in English for me?

[Idogears]

My last question with this -- can anyone tell me what the the config menu is in English for me?

1. Display
2. Sound
3. Text box colour
4. Text speed
5. Monitor refresh rate
6. Exit

My question about gameplay...

After each ending, there's supposed to be a new orb of light, right? Where?

[Master Anime]

The problem seems to be with the first line on Nagisa's route on April 23rd. Everything is fine except that line won't appear, and the right-click menu won't appear either. The music still plays, and Nagisa and the text box already appeared like normal. When I click the X to close the game, the confirm/deny box pops up like normal too.

This is new Compiled SEEN.txt
I hope this fix the problem
http://aoi.hiranomoe.com/upload/Seen-0.93.rar

[Tsudaro]

My question about gameplay...


After each ending, there's supposed to be a new orb of light, right? Where?
EDIT: Circa 12/27/07 - (Lol.. Circa..)
You have to complete NEARLY all 8 routes in a specific order.Misae -> Tomoyo -> Yukine -> Ryou -> Kyou -> Kappei -> Mei Sunohara -> Ichinose -> Fuuko -> Koumura -> Nagisa w/ afterstory (Ichinose and Fuuko are completely independent from the other routes, so you can do them whenever you want, you probably get all the CGs.

Also, I'm using the unofficial English patch, but every time a character in the VN says something, the get_font window thing shows up, and the character voices don't play. It also happens during the dream world/alternate reality, but I'm guessing that it's not translated yet, 'cuz I can't see any text at all in the dream world/alternate reality areas.

The Kotomi route is REALLY similar to the anime, for what I've seen of the anime so far. Which is up to episode 12. But I guess Tomoya still ends up with Nagisa, right?

[KaneDragon]

Lot of threads on /a/ lately, feels like I'm falling behind. But at the same time I want to see how the anime turns out first, and there's velocity's warning about unofficial builds... Pah.

[GyroidFanatic]

Also, I'm using the unofficial English patch, but every time a character in the VN says something, the get_font window thing shows up, and the character voices don't play. It also happens during the dream world/alternate reality, but I'm guessing that it's not translated yet, 'cuz I can't see any text at all in the dream world/alternate reality areas.
That's not happening to me. Perhaps you installed it wrong? And as for the Illusionary World stuff, that is fully translated (SEEN 6900 if you want to read it off the Wiki), but just wasn't inserted.

[The_TempesT]

When the translation is all complete how will you go about playing it? Get the Japanese version of the game then just put the file in where it needs to go or is it going to be more complicated, like changing your whole windows font to Japanese (this doesn't appeal to me as I changed mine to Chinese once on accident and it took awhile to fix it).

I don't really have the knowhow to incorporate the current translations into the game without a detailed walk though, so I'm hoping when its all finished it will be simpler to do, but I definitely want to play the game when its finally translated as I've become quite the Clannad addict from just watching the Anime.

I should probably just learn Japanese to make this easier in the future.

[KaneDragon]

I'm thinking it can't be more complicated than Fate/Stay Night was. At worst, just try running the game setup and the game itself in AppLocale.

[GyroidFanatic]

When the translation is all complete how will you go about playing it? Get the Japanese version of the game then just put the file in where it needs to go or is it going to be more complicated, like changing your whole windows font to Japanese (this doesn't appeal to me as I changed mine to Chinese once on accident and it took awhile to fix it).

They don't know how they're going to release the patch. And it wouldn't be the whole font you have to change (as that's only available in Vista anyway), but just the System Locale setting.

[Tsudaro]

I don't the the option for a Japanese locale, but the unofficial English patch works fine for me without it. Except for the problems I already talked about, but I can fix them by re-installing the game, I guess.. By the way, how would I go about re-installing it so as to not lose any save files or CG files? Cuz I completed Nagisa, Tomoyo, and Kotomi and I don't wanna lose them.

[GyroidFanatic]

Just backup the "SAVEDATA" folder, then copy it to the new installation

[Tsudaro]

I found out something while playing on Yukine's route. It seems that since I did Tomoyo's route (without doing Misae's route) I still got an orb of light. It looks like they appear on the main menu screen. It seems that you can get an orb of light by completing a path that was required before you do the path that you're doing, without getting an orb of light from the required path - like mentioned above - first.
Hope this further aids the person who asked about this thing.

[GyroidFanatic]

I found out something while playing on Yukine's route. It seems that since I did Tomoyo's route (without doing Misae's route) I still got an orb of light. It looks like they appear on the main menu screen. It seems that you can get an orb of light by completing a path that was required before you do the path that you're doing, without getting an orb of light from the required path - like mentioned above - first.
Hope this further aids the person who asked about this thing.
You get one of the lights at the end of most routes. Misae is an exception, since you get her's in the middle of Tomoyo's route right after you beat Misae's route. I believe there's one other that you must wait til After Story to get.

[Hypertaost]

This is probably the wrong place to ask, but oh well.

I already know from walkthroughs that if you go through nagisa's path after fuukos, you will use up fuuko's light, but what if you start on nagisa's path BEFORE you start fuuko's? How does that affect the storyline?

Edit: sorry about forgetting to put spoiler tags ^.~

[GyroidFanatic]

Do you mind putting that into spoiler tags? Not everyone in this topic has gotten that far or even played the game yet. Or better yet edit it out put it in the topic in the Q&A or game topic.

[aznricekid]

You get one of the lights at the end of most routes. Misae is an exception, since you get her's in the middle of Tomoyo's route right after you beat Misae's route. I believe there's one other that you must wait til After Story to get.

So about the whole light thing, I played Tomoyo's path first. I didn't notice anything about the lights until I had played a few other routes (including Misae's), so now I'm trying to go back and get one light that I should've gotten along the way. I'm pretty sure its either Tomoyo's or Misae's since i screwed up the route play-order, but I can't seem to get it no matter how many times I replay either route. So does this mean I won't be able to get to the after story just because I messed up the play order?

[boggart]

Could all discussion of anything regarding the plot of the game be posted in the Game Discussion thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=10536) please? This thread is purely for discussion of the translation project. If you find glitches or spelling/grammar errors and the like, then by all means post here. Otherwise, think twice and look for an alternative thread to post in. Thanks.

[velocity7]

http://www.i-love-key.net/archives/2007/12/clannad_full_voice.html

http://www.i-love-key.net/img1/2007122901.jpg

Full voice version of CLANNAD PC confirmed.

For everyone who's wondering; yes, this will affect my plans on distribution of the CLANNAD Translation Patch.

[kimchipride]

http://www.i-love-key.net/archives/2007/12/clannad_full_voice.html

http://www.i-love-key.net/img1/2007122901.jpg

Full voice version of CLANNAD PC confirmed.

For everyone who's wondering; yes, this will affect my plans on distribution of the CLANNAD Translation Patch.

O H N O
OH NO

[bladeofdarkness]

i need to ask
whats with the lights
every time you finish a route you get one
what do they do if you get them all

[tripperazn]

Read the thread:

Could all discussion of anything regarding the plot of the game be posted in the Game Discussion thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=10536) please? This thread is purely for discussion of the translation project. If you find glitches or spelling/grammar errors and the like, then by all means post here. Otherwise, think twice and look for an alternative thread to post in. Thanks.

[Proto]

http://www.i-love-key.net/archives/2007/12/clannad_full_voice.html

http://www.i-love-key.net/img1/2007122901.jpg

Full voice version of CLANNAD PC confirmed.

For everyone who's wondering; yes, this will affect my plans on distribution of the CLANNAD Translation Patch.

My wallet just screamed in terror.

[GyroidFanatic]

I have finished all the routes and the subquests I could find, submitted all the corrections I found other than consistency stuff ("nee-san" vs. "older sister", etc.), and now I have ran out of things to do over my winter vacation...

*twiddles his thumbs until more After Story is translated*

[velocity7]

My wallet just screamed in terror.

As did mine. D:

[Joachim]

um so velocity7, your patch will not support the old clannad game? (one without voice/ with unofficial voice patch?) or it will both support the old clannad and the new clannad game with voice?

just want to know = ) my wallet has already started screaming when little buster ex news came out, and with this.. oh well = S

[GyroidFanatic]

um so velocity7, your patch will not support the old clannad game? (one without voice/ with unofficial voice patch?) or it will both support the old clannad and the new clannad game with voice?

just want to know = ) my wallet has already started screaming when little buster ex news came out, and with this.. oh well = S

From the wiki:
Recently, Key has announced there will be a Full Voice version of CLANNAD PC released on February 29, 2008[1] (http://forums.visualnews.net/showpost.php?p=38764&postcount=156). This has affected plans on distribution. Originally, a patch that allowed those who had/did not have the voice patch to be able to play. Now two patches will likely have to be issued, including one for the Full Voice version. --Velocity7 (http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=User:Velocity7) 11:41, 31 December 2007 (PST)

[Joachim]

From the wiki:

Thanks for that gyroid :) i forgot to check the wiki after coming back from my crazy new year's eve night :p

so there will be a patch for the original clannad (with or without voice patch) and also a patch for full voice version clannad, that made my day :D


anyway happy new year guys :)

[blitz1/2]

I'm a bit confused now.

So is the patch officially finished now because I see links for the patch everywhere while the last time I checked was that the project was at 75 to 80ish percent complete.

[GyroidFanatic]

It's an unofficial patch with a few small errors, and After Story untranslated. But other than that it's fine.

[velocity7]

I'm a bit confused now.

So is the patch officially finished now because I see links for the patch everywhere while the last time I checked was that the project was at 75 to 80ish percent complete.

Patch is not finished until I say it is. :cool:

[ReizoSan]

Patch is not finished until I say it is. :cool:

What is the rough percentage of completion course on a website it something like 55%??? and whats the new about a full voice patch for the distributation is that your patch???

[Proto]

Is it really that difficult to check the last 5 posts in the previous page? :p

[blitz1/2]

my computer freezes on 1 of the parts, could this be due to a missing part of the translation?

[GyroidFanatic]

Is it April 23rd on Nagisa's or Fuuko's route? Then you don't have the latest patch.

[ZhangKhaiEn]

1. Is yours the 0.93 patch?
2. Whose route are you on and on what day dialogue/choice did it make the game crash?

[blitz1/2]

Is it April 23rd on Nagisa's or Fuuko's route? Then you don't have the latest patch.

yeah. It freezes after nagisa says "good morning"

No offense to any, but is there a site that hosts the updated patch downloads?

Sry if this offends anyone.

[GyroidFanatic]

Look a few pages back. You'll find it.

[The_TempesT]

I was wondering if anybody could help me out with this. I just installed the game and the voice patch, and the newest seen file but I'm unable to turn on Japanese Locale. When i try it says i need the windows CD which I no longer can find, I looked for about 2 hours.

Is there anywhere I can get the font off the net? There was a option to just browse and find the file itself to install it, but i havent had any luck yet. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Btw when I try to run it without Japanese Locale it freezes as soon as you start the new game, you get music but a blank blue textbox on the bottem and everything else is white.

Edit: Okay I found my CD and i installed fonts and I have it on the bottem corner of my task bar and all, but the game still freeze's at the very beggining. Any suggestions?

[ZhangKhaiEn]

Hm, there is a Chinese already-voice-patched CLANNAD torrent floating around. That one doesn't require you to be in Japanese system locale, but I am not sure if it requires you to be in Chinese sysloc. It might just be your saving grace.

[Proto]

That is already threading in dangerous waters though


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[GyroidFanatic]

It's not the font you need. It's the East Asian Support. There should be a download on Microsoft's site somewhere.

[ZhangKhaiEn]

I respectfully jump out of the dangerous water zone. >_>

[fef]

I'm a little curious, but could I ask what's going on in SEEN0429?

<0331> \{Akio} "As if I'd let you!"
// 「させるかっ」
<0332> Pops starts to run.
// オッサンが駆ける。
<0333> Sunohara quickly stands up as well.
// 春原も慌てて立ち上がる。
<0334> The ball has been seized and thrown straight at me.
// ボールをダイレクトで掴んで、俺に向けて投じた。
<0335> Smack!
// ぱすっ！
<0336> With a dry sound, my glove had caught the ball.
// 乾いた音を立てて、俺のミットにそのボールは収まっていた。
<0337> I didn't forget to step on the base.
// 忘れず、ベースを踏む。
<0338> \{Umpire} "Out!"
// 「アウト！」
<0339> \{Misae} "Sigh..."
// 「はぁ…」
<0340> The one who stood up is Misae-san.

After reading a little bit after it when they're talking with Misae, it seems like either Akio or she ran to get the ball and took the guy out. Especially with the "They probably found the play just now hard to believe with a woman." Who did the play, or did Misae just slide in along with Akio for the ball?

[Master Anime]

New Patch
http://aoi.hiranomoe.com/upload/Seen-0.94.rar

Seen-0.94
-Added dream world translation
-Fuuko route Fixed!
-orphaned row fixed!

[Kinny Riddle]

I'm a little curious, but could I ask what's going on in SEEN0429?

<0331> \{Akio} "As if I'd let you!"
// 「させるかっ」
<0332> Pops starts to run.
// オッサンが駆ける。
<0333> Sunohara quickly stands up as well.
// 春原も慌てて立ち上がる。
<0334> The ball has been seized and thrown straight at me.
// ボールをダイレクトで掴んで、俺に向けて投じた。
<0335> Smack!
// ぱすっ！
<0336> With a dry sound, my glove had caught the ball.
// 乾いた音を立てて、俺のミットにそのボールは収まっていた。
<0337> I didn't forget to step on the base.
// 忘れず、ベースを踏む。
<0338> \{Umpire} "Out!"
// 「アウト！」
<0339> \{Misae} "Sigh..."
// 「はぁ…」
<0340> The one who stood up is Misae-san.

After reading a little bit after it when they're talking with Misae, it seems like either Akio or she ran to get the ball and took the guy out. Especially with the "They probably found the play just now hard to believe with a woman." Who did the play, or did Misae just slide in along with Akio for the ball?
SEEN0429 deals with the Baseball Ending, just Akio assembling a motley crew of a baseball team to take on the challenge of the rival town's baseball team. No orb, but very fun.

[suzukisayuri]

I would like to join this great translation project,I have the experience of translating American teleplay into Japanese on the web.I am wondering if I can make help.

[Proto]

CLANNAD is an open project, so anyone is free to contribute. The project page is located here (http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Clannad)

[Klashikari]

SEEN0429 deals with the Baseball Ending, just Akio assembling a motley crew of a baseball team to take on the challenge of the rival town's baseball team. No orb, but very fun.
That wasn't the question Kinny :heh:

fef: as far as I could read, I think that Akio and Youhei tried to get the ball buy running like nuts, however, Misae got it and she could do a long throw to Tomoya, putting the runner out

[HashiriyaR32]

Are there plans to replace the original OP vid with a subbed version? NNL did a subbed version of the OP vid years ago, but it's in AVI format, and there was a TL error that wasn't spotted until it was too late.

[MeoTwister5]

Is anyone familiar with the current versions of the Seen.txt builds that people have been compiling? (It's the one I'm using). Specifically how much of After Story is translated and if any of the normal After Story routes can be played?

[Klashikari]

Is anyone familiar with the current versions of the Seen.txt builds that people have been compiling? (It's the one I'm using). Specifically how much of After Story is translated and if any of the normal After Story routes can be played?
Check the main page of the translation project (http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Clannad):
The SEEN file is "updated enough", so Sanae, Akio, Yuusuke routes are translated, along with Kyou's scene in AS.

[GipFace]

NNL did a subbed version of the OP vid years ago, but it's in AVI format, and there was a TL error that wasn't spotted until it was too late.

I know. No Name Losers was such a terrible fansub group with no QC at all. They deserve to be forgotten.

[Joachim]

spare NNL, they did all their job unpaid, though they create some internet drama with their wind translation, but i respect them for what they done = )

[Klashikari]

There is a situation which was quite weird in SEEN2503 (http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Clannad:SEEN2503), and I left a message on it, though it might be overlooked/missed, so I posts here.

here is the bizarre occurance

<0256> Our mouths gradually separated.
// 口がようやく離れた。
<0257> Tomoyo's rough breathing.
// 智代の荒い息。
<0258> The smell of the cucurbita was strong... as if it were a girl's scent.
// カボチャの匂いよりも強く…女の色香のような香りがした。
<0259> Her back stiffened up.
// 背筋がぞくっとするような。
<0260> This time, I reach out my hands.
// 今度は手が伸びてくる。
<0261> They go towards her neck.
// それが首に宛われる。
<0262> My thumbs felt the texture of her Adam's apple.
// ふたつの親指が優しく喉仏をまさぐった。
<0263> No matter what, it felt good.
// なんでも心地よかった。
<0264> Grugg!
// ぎゅっ！
<0265> Something strong went into my thumbs.
// 親指に力が込められていた。
<0266> \{\m{B}} "Guaahh..."
// \{\m{B}}「ぐあ…」
<0267> \{Tomoyo} "You'll feel at ease soon..."
// \{智代}「すぐ楽になるから…」
<0268> Gggghhh...
// ぐぐぐぐぐ…
<0269> \{\m{B}} "Daaah---!!"
// \{\m{B}}「だあぁぁーーっ！」
<0270> I break off from Tomoyo's hands, falling to the floor, getting away.
// 俺は智代の両手を振りきって、床を転げて、逃げる。
<0271> \{Tomoyo} "What's wrong, \m{B}? There's still more."
// \{智代}「どうした、\m{B}。まだ続くぞ」
<0272> \{\m{B}} "Like...?"
// \{\m{B}}「なんてだよ…」
<0273> \{Tomoyo} "Farewell... my darling."
// \{智代}「さようなら…愛しい人」
<0274> \{\m{B}} "That's not acting a love scene, that's a murder scene!!"
// \{\m{B}}「それ濡れ場じゃなくて、殺人現場の回想シーンだっ！！」
<0275> \{\m{B}} "If you do that, I'm going to die!"
// \{\m{B}}「演じきってたら、俺、死んでただろっ！」
<0276> \{Tomoyo} "That's why I asked you if it was okay."
// \{智代}「だから、訊いたんだ。本当にいいのか、と」
<0277> \{\m{B}} "........."
// \{\m{B}}「………」
<0278> \{Tomoyo} "Of course, I didn't plan on making it so strong so you'd die, but surprisingly it was painful..."
// \{智代}「もちろん、死ぬほど強くやるつもりはなかったが、案外苦しそうだったな…」


As you might see, the little scene involves Tomoyo and Tomoya who were acting like a romance scene in a TV soap. However, Tomoya begins to strangle Tomoya, mimicking a murder scene instead.
The problem is actually the early part, where it almost look like it is Tomoya who is moving his arms, which doesn't make sense with his pain, his complaints and Tomoyo claiming she wasn't attempting to strangle him, with the "farewell, darling."

[Zenemis]

I take it Baka-Tsuki still has active editors currently working on the translation? - I was a bit concerned by the last updated times on their main page.

I'm interested in helping the translation along with both Japanese and English.

[Kristen]

I take it Baka-Tsuki still has active editors currently working on the translation? - I was a bit concerned by the last updated times on their main page.

I'm interested in helping the translation along with both Japanese and English.

From checking their "Recent changes" page everyday, it seems like the pages are still undergoing editing. It seems like only SEEN 6801 is actively being translated at the present moment by Todkapuz. This is at 77%, and the translator made the prediction on 01/13/08 that he would be finished by 01/28/08 at the pace he had been going.

RoofClimber1 has made some recent TL progress on 6802, but it was his first in like a month, and he hasn't made any since, so I do not know how long that is going to take. This is at 6%.

6800 used to be making steady progress, but it stalled out in like mid-December. I don't know if that is being translated by anyone at the moment and is in planning for a massive upload of all the text at once or not. As it is now, section "0" of 6800 is 90% complete, and the other parts are 0% complete, making the overall progress on that seen 41%.

6803 is a short scene of about 300 lines, and that is about 58% completed. By the time the other 3 are translated, I'm predicting the remaining parts of 6803 will be translated.


Keep in mind that these are absolutely gigantic seens. Seen 6800 is 8000 lines, 6801 is 2000 lines, and 6802 is 3000 lines. For comparison, an average fansub is about 200-300 lines of translation. So, finishing the translation of 13,000 lines is about the same as fansubbing 52 episodes of an anime. Of course, the text is already written out for you, so the translation is a little easier.

Since there are 3600 lines of 6800 and 1500 lines of 6801 translated, it means that the overall completion of after story is 5,100/13,000 lines, roughly 39%. That would put the overall completion at 91% of the translation phase.


EDIT: Of course, it's Velocity7's call for the official percentage of the project and what is actually being done. I'm just a girl who went math crazy for a couple minutes. ^_^

EDIT2: Whoops, guess I was wrong about 6800. It looks like it is being translated but not really frequently uploaded, as Velocity7 added like 700 lines of text early January. So, if I got it right, 6800 is being translated from behind the lines and uploaded every so often in huge batches, 6801 is steadily being translated, 6802 is making little to no progress, 6803 is a shorty that will be completed soon, I'm sure, and 6900 is completed.
When all of those are completed, then the entire chart should be bold. :)

EDIT3: I guess I'm going to be using this for my own tracking purposes. Updated for 1,000 lines added by Velocity7 just now.

[dgreater1]

I take it Baka-Tsuki still has active editors currently working on the translation? - I was a bit concerned by the last updated times on their main page.

I'm interested in helping the translation along with both Japanese and English.

That will actually be great. If you're fluent in Japanese, you can TransCheck the SEEN files, since TransChecker is what the Project is actually lacking. Anyway, there are active editors working on the files.

@Klashikari: I'm done checking the lines you wanted to get check.

Anyway, I'll be Gone with the Wind Child... again... XD

[GyroidFanatic]

I take it Baka-Tsuki still has active editors currently working on the translation? - I was a bit concerned by the last updated times on their main page.

I'm interested in helping the translation along with both Japanese and English.
They update that everytime they finish a route, not everytime they do an update.

And there was a big update on 6800 about a week ago.

[Kristen]

They update that everytime they finish a route, not everytime they do an update.

And there was a big update on 6800 about a week ago.

Whoa... How in the world did I miss that? It was on January 6th, and V7 added 700 lines of TL.

Guess I was wrong about it stalling out in mid-December. :heh:

[Kona_Zero]

Whoa... How in the world did I miss that? It was on January 6th, and V7 added 700 lines of TL.

Guess I was wrong about it stalling out in mid-December. :heh:


Wow seriously also. Look like they are going strong on translation.

[Kristen]

Wow seriously also. Look like they are going strong on translation.

I wonder. Just some translation speculation. I'm thinking their might be another huge update on Tuesday, since that is the one year anniversary of the project. Or, quite possibly, I'm thinking too much and the project will go as normal. :p

[Zenemis]

I'm slowly chewing away at Section 18 of SEEN6800... yell at me if I screwed up something (likely).

[todkapuz]

EDIT2: Whoops, guess I was wrong about 6800. It looks like it is being translated but not really frequently uploaded, as Velocity7 added like 700 lines of text early January. So, if I got it right, 6800 is being translated from behind the lines and uploaded every so often in huge batches, 6801 is steadily being translated, 6802 is making little to no progress, 6803 is a shorty that will be completed soon, I'm sure, and 6900 is completed.
When all of those are completed, then the entire chart should be bold. :)

We all work a little differently... I like to translate it "on the wiki" as I bounce from computer to computer each time... Velocity (and he's suggested it to me) does all his translation offline then plops in a massive chunk at a time.

I'm still shooting for the 28th for my first pass... few things here and there that will ened to be fixed.... like only recently have I noticed "Pops" is the perferred translation of "Ossan" etc.. (I happen to like leaving Japanese names and phrases in when I do translations for myself... but thats just me... ) and of course put all the translations on the primary line (jsut doing it as comment the first time trhough so I can see my own edits later)

[Kristen]

We all work a little differently... I like to translate it "on the wiki" as I bounce from computer to computer each time... Velocity (and he's suggested it to me) does all his translation offline then plops in a massive chunk at a time.

I'm still shooting for the 28th for my first pass... few things here and there that will ened to be fixed.... like only recently have I noticed "Pops" is the perferred translation of "Ossan" etc.. (I happen to like leaving Japanese names and phrases in when I do translations for myself... but thats just me... ) and of course put all the translations on the primary line (jsut doing it as comment the first time trhough so I can see my own edits later)

Heh, I didn't know you were a member here. :)

Just FYI, at 100 lines a day which you stated was your goal, you're going to finish 2 days early. :p

Anyways, just wanted to let you know that I appreciate it, as well as all/any translators of this game.

[todkapuz]

Heh, I didn't know you were a member here. :)

Just FYI, at 100 lines a day which you stated was your goal, you're going to finish 2 days early. :p

Anyways, just wanted to let you know that I appreciate it, as well as all/any translators of this game.

Hehe...

I've got just over 400 lines left at the moment.. so yeah... I will probably come in early... but yes, even when I made the prediction, I tacked a few extra days... that is because I am on call 24/7 ... and I know in the past there have been days I've worked late and just haven't felt like doing anything... so didn't want to put a goal on myself I couldn't meet...

But yeah, I'll probably be done by the end of the week, more than likely... and should have my self-consistancy check closed out by my birthday. Sadly since I don't have experience in any of the other seens... there will still be some stylistic things that will need to be cared for...

Now I'm just trying to decide if I am up to the challenge to helping on the last ones.... :) when i started 6801 .. i ddint know quite how large it really was :) 6802 is half-again larger.... *sighs* ...

Eh... don't need to thank me... I'm far from a perfect translator.... sides.. I'm doing it for selfish reasons.. I wanna play it! (what can I say... Visual novels like these are just fun... read/played several of them.... sadly outside of the ones that have been translated... I'm still too slow with the native Japanese ones to fully enjoy it (miss important little tid bits here and there). Besides, I think the whole concept is very cool... only wish I got involved earlier... oh well... next project maybe) ... Vel7 on the other hand... that's a different story. ～だんごだんご大家族～

[Kristen]

Hehe...

I've got just over 400 lines left at the moment.. so yeah... I will probably come in early... but yes, even when I made the prediction, I tacked a few extra days... that is because I am on call 24/7 ... and I know in the past there have been days I've worked late and just haven't felt like doing anything... so didn't want to put a goal on myself I couldn't meet...

But yeah, I'll probably be done by the end of the week, more than likely... and should have my self-consistancy check closed out by my birthday. Sadly since I don't have experience in any of the other seens... there will still be some stylistic things that will need to be cared for...

Now I'm just trying to decide if I am up to the challenge to helping on the last ones.... :) when i started 6801 .. i ddint know quite how large it really was :)


Birthday... Quite the ambiguous date. <.< >.>.

Actually, I was wondering which SEEN you'd work on after 6801 myself. I didn't know if you'd help out with 6800, start on 6802, or finish up 6803 which only has like 100 or so lines left...

Ah well. Again, I really appreciate as a fan what you're doing. It makes me happy to see Clannad: Seen 6801 +4,000 every day. :)


EDIT: Ooh, and V7 just went insane on 6800. ^_^

[todkapuz]

Birthday... Quite the ambiguous date. <.< >.>.

Actually, I was wondering which SEEN you'd work on after 6801 myself. I didn't know if you'd help out with 6800, start on 6802, or finish up 6803 which only has like 100 or so lines left...


EDIT: Ooh, and V7 just went insane on 6800. ^_^

That's why I am not touching 6800... he's got it covered :) Odds are that I'll jump somewhere into 6802 ... all depends on what Vel is going to do. .... edit: and to the other... about a week before yours, I think.

[Kristen]

That's why I am not touching 6800... he's got it covered :) Odds are that I'll jump somewhere into 6802 ... all depends on what Vel is going to do. .... edit: and to the other... about a week before yours, I think.

January 31st, the day that Clannad 16 is set to air? :)

Velocity7's present rate is 1000 lines every 15 days, which is 66.7 lines a day. There are presently 3,420 lines out of 8,251 translated. At this rate, he will finish SEEN 6800 is 72 days, which is April 1st 2008.
If you are planning to finish 6801 on the 31st with finalized translation and move onto 6802, that is 3143 lines to translate. At 100 lines a day, which is your present pace, you would be finished in 31 days, or March 2nd. That is the rough translation time. Since you are predicting 3 to finalize a 2,000 line one, proportionally that is 5 days. That would put the 6802 completion date at March 7th.

This is all dependant of present rates, and assuming that you two are the only ones who do translation. It doesn't compensate for sudden free time where one of you can translate more, break times, and any other things that can happen.

In other words, my guesses are always far off. :) But, that's just to show you that 6800 is so big that it is unlikely that he'd start 6802 before you had a chance, unless he abandons 6800. Because in perspective, translating the rest of 6800 is equivalent to translating 6801 and 6802.

Therefore, I need to stop going math crazy sometime soon.

[todkapuz]

In other words, my guesses are always far off. :) But, that's just to show you that 6800 is so big that it is unlikely that he'd start 6802 before you had a chance, unless he abandons 6800. Because in perspective, translating the rest of 6800 is equivalent to translating 6801 and 6802.

Therefore, I need to stop going math crazy sometime soon.

sou ka? sou nan desu ne.

I dont know.. I haven't seen any others that are seriously doing anything in awhile... doesn't mean there are not any... but I dunno... I probably will roll on.

All I DO know is that Feb 29th will throw a wrench in it all.... hopefully no strange changes to any of the seens or encoding etc.... else life won't be fun (I want the full voice version... so much more fun).

Noticed the "fansubber" tag... what role do you typically play in the process?

oh yeah.... nothing wrong with math.... it's fun... do the same thing from time to time... but thats weird.. I'm averaging more than V7? doesnt make sense.

[Kristen]

sou ka? sou nan desu ne.

I dont know.. I haven't seen any others that are seriously doing anything in awhile... doesn't mean there are not any... but I dunno... I probably will roll on.

All I DO know is that Feb 29th will throw a wrench in it all.... hopefully no strange changes to any of the seens or encoding etc.... else life won't be fun (I want the full voice version... so much more fun).

Noticed the "fansubber" tag... what role do you typically play in the process?

oh yeah.... nothing wrong with math.... it's fun... do the same thing from time to time... but thats weird.. I'm averaging more than V7? doesnt make sense.

I'm an editor for Moetaku Fansubs. I don't know a thing about Japanese, and I don't know all the tricky moves, so I just work to make English sound more English. ^_^

I was considering helping out with the editing of the project, but I'm just bad at conforming to guidelines and all. Like, I read the guideline saying "Tomoya speaks in present tense", and then I started to edit 0414, and I like killed everything of the mood. So, I just backed out and cancelled.

[Zenemis]

Have you played through most of the game Chrissie?

I think better lines come out once you're in *that* mood :P

[Kristen]

Have you played through most of the game Chrissie?

I think better lines come out once you're in *that* mood :P

Nope. Not really at all. I'm presently on April 26th following Fuuko's walkthrough. I have absolutely no idea what SEEN I'm on, but it's definately Fuuko's route, since I've hit all her SEENs and choices presented in the walkthrough. This is my first route of the game. And I'm going to do it for the Good End, followed by the save point and go through the True end, and then play Kotomi's route.
AKA, I'm only playing what the anime covers. :)

And which mood? The mood near the end of the game, my math crazy mood, my evil editing mood, or something else?

I'd be glad to work on any SEENs that I can, I just don't know which those are...

[Zenemis]

The same mood you get watchin' the anime, it's just a feeling that makes it easier to make more natural-sounding lines, I think anyway... :)

Just any you feel like doing really :P

[todkapuz]

I don't know.. I'm mixed opinion about the whole tense thing... i tend to want to translate it how it is... which is almost exclusively past-tense... but at times it does feel better in present... but there really are some that seem weird in present.... *sighs*

Hehe.. I think that is truly a problem of translation.... at least for people like me... I like to leave it very close to how it is constructed in Japanese... I guess because I like it that way... :) although sometimes it makes little sense to read it in english and not undersatnd why it was weirdly phrased... of course I obviously dislike comlpete and proprely constructed sentances half the time anyhow.

Hmm.. I dont know, I haven't played it at all as of yet, myself... guess I'm waiting for the official build? *shrugs* but I want to :)

All I can say about 6801 is at times it seems awfully repetative.... hehe.

[Zenemis]

Half of 6800/7 is about whether Nagisa's cute or not. Gawd.

[todkapuz]

Half of 6800/7 is about whether Nagisa's cute or not. Gawd.

I guess I don't feel so bad about 6801 anymore.... although sometimes I wish Nagisa would stop being so CUTE and become a bit more reasonable.... ehh.. nevermind... I'd have her as mine any day how she is... even though Kotomi would get first pick :)

[Kristen]

I don't know.. I'm mixed opinion about the whole tense thing... i tend to want to translate it how it is... which is almost exclusively past-tense... but at times it does feel better in present... but there really are some that seem weird in present.... *sighs*

Hehe.. I think that is truly a problem of translation.... at least for people like me... I like to leave it very close to how it is constructed in Japanese... I guess because I like it that way... :) although sometimes it makes little sense to read it in english and not undersatnd why it was weirdly phrased... of course I obviously dislike comlpete and proprely constructed sentances half the time anyhow.

Hmm.. I dont know, I haven't played it at all as of yet, myself... guess I'm waiting for the official build? *shrugs* but I want to :)

All I can say about 6801 is at times it seems awfully repetative.... hehe.

Hm... official build... Yeah, I was kind of impatient and got the unofficial one. Since it doesn't really harm my game (Just rename SEEN.TXT to SEEN01.TXT and then move SEEN.TXT into the game folder), I figured I'd use it.
I wonder when the official build is going to come out. Since I don't know how long editing will take, I have no guesses. :p. I'm guessing one stage at a time.

By the way, V7 is 66, Zenemis is 33, and you are 100, AKA 200 lines per day average makes the translation phase completion ETA March 7th. This does account for your rough-finalized translation, which I have down as 8 days for 2 SEENs, which is the same as adding 800 lines.

I guess a lot of the SEENs are repetitive, because they come from many different choices, and they lead to similar scenarios. AKA, let's say that on the opening scene with Nagisa at the bottom of the hill, there was a choice to talk to her or leave her be. Then you go to school. There are two options of scenes there, which are that you take you lessons and then nap, or take your lessons and Nagisa bursts in the middle of one. The lessons part is the same, hence the repitition.
Or, 6801 is just repetitive. :)

[todkapuz]

Hm...
Or, 6801 is just repetitive. :)

Well I haven't looked at many other seens... I was just talking about ... it seems like every 70 lines or so .... while the details change...... they are in their narrow home... and T is talking about how his purpose to live Nagisa... and Nagisa's purpose to love is Shio-chan.... etc..... don't get me wrong.. there are some good parts to it :) I guess it is just a little bit more slice-of-life than I was expecting.

[Kristen]

Well I haven't looked at many other seens... I was just talking about ... it seems like every 70 lines or so .... while the details change...... they are in their narrow home... and T is talking about how his purpose to live Nagisa... and Nagisa's purpose to love is Shio-chan.... etc..... don't get me wrong.. there are some good parts to it :) I guess it is just a little bit more slice-of-life than I was expecting.

Hm... Maybe that SEEN is a dependant SEEN. Like, does it seem like every 70 lines he suddenly starts to say that again with no real connection to the lines before it, or does it seem like he is just repeating himself?

[todkapuz]

Hm... Maybe that SEEN is a dependant SEEN. Like, does it seem like every 70 lines he suddenly starts to say that again with no real connection to the lines before it, or does it seem like he is just repeating himself?

I think it's plot progression really... watching the dynamic of Nagisa and Tomoya change during the development (and hopefully birth?... maybe? ... perhaps) of Shio-chan.....

There doesnt seem to be any decision points in it.... but there sure are a couple of "what happened to the context" moments.... where time changes with no notice.... ;) at least the last few have been better "It's going to be Christmas in a few weeks" next line "... it's christmas day"

soemtimes it just seems like they are talking but the time has changed...
blah.. anyhow... I'm sure it plays better than it reads. :)

[Zenemis]

There are two options of scenes there, which are that you take you lessons and then nap, or take your lessons and Nagisa bursts in the middle of one. The lessons part is the same, hence the repitition.
Or, 6801 is just repetitive. :)

The game redirects you back to the main route after a mini-deviation, so its only translated once.

V7 just put down a nice chunk in 6800/0 :)

[Kristen]

The game redirects you back to the main route after a mini-deviation, so its only translated once.

V7 just put down a nice chunk in 6800/0 :)

Hai, hai. :) I wonder... I really wish I knew Japanese so that I could help. I could only start a French translation of it. :'( But, I wonder if this is a sign that there are more translators coming into the project and the ads on the fansubs have paid off... Hm...

Also, happy birthday, Clannad Translation Project!

[Zenemis]

I found it through Hong-Fire's link to 'em.

My Japanese isn't fluent, it takes some effort to read it still, which I don't want to do while I'm enjoying the game. Instead of waiting, thought I'd help it along a little :P

*brings cake*

[HashiriyaR32]

the cake is a lie
the cake is a lie
the cake is a l

[fallin up]

any release date?

[Zenemis]

The translation's out, excluding the After Story.

If you're after the AS, I guess it's done when it's done :P

[Kristen]

any release date?

Generally, translation projects do not put up release dates, because anything can happen. We can only speculate based off of what we know and how they progress with time.

[Takuto19]

After story is coming along nicely, there's updates every day so i wouldn't guess a date but you can always check the recent changes on the wiki to see whats going on.

Just have to wait heh.

[2H-Dragon]

Generally, translation projects do not put up release dates, because anything can happen. We can only speculate based off of what we know and how they progress with time.

And it seems with the better visual novels. The translators feel like ninja disapearing for a long period time right before completion. :heh:

[Joachim]

And it seems with the better visual novels. The translators feel like ninja disapearing for a long period time right before completion. :heh:

that or they pull the leaf-translation-group-internet-drama-kind-of-thing :heh:

anyway, i wanted to contribute to some of the untranslated seen, can i just like edit some of that or there are some kind of section and each section has its own translator?

[Proto]

Well, the only remaining seen's are 6800-6803. 6800 is almost done by v7, 6803 is quite short and 6801 is going at a nice pace thanks to Todkapuz. If you want to help with translation you could contact the people in charge of 6802, but still I think helping with translation proofing previous seen's is also something that will need to be done sooner or later :heh:

[velocity7]

Translation proofing is just as high a priority as translation at the moment; any mistranslations found should be hunted down like dogs. ;)

[HashiriyaR32]

that or they pull the leaf-translation-group-internet-drama-kind-of-thing

Please enlighten me.

[Joachim]

that or they pull the leaf-translation-group-internet-drama-kind-of-thing

Please enlighten me.

they are the fan translation that do to heart 2 PS2 version translation

http://toheart2.proboards59.com/index.cgi?board=ann

basically they decided to act like NNL, but unlike NNL that still giving out the patch to those who can give they some kind of proof that they purchased the original wind, this one fan translation group decided to un-release (well lets just say they claim that they have finished everything but didn't want to release it to public) and some even say that it was a hoax (the whole translation thing), in one board even one of NNL crew comment about this how it differ from NNL's action in the past

one of the main reason they "withdraw" their translation patch is because of those flamer in their forum that keep on demanding the game release.. and they retaliate by doing that un-release thing.. which well kinda spark some internet drama :heh:

@velo:
translation proofing eh, alright i'll see what i can do, *goes reading the translated seen file

[rg4619]

and some even say that it was a hoax (the whole translation thing)

Yeah, the thing about the To Heart 2 translation is that there's no evidence that it exists. Unlike the Wind beta, not one person has said that they've acquired it, including those involved with eroge translations (the team claims to have released the patch to respected members of those communities. They also said that people with the patch could distribute it to friends). Most likely, the announcement was just a parting shot at people who bothered the team.

Incidentally, the issues regarding Shuffle! are possibly linked to fan/translator relationships. We know that the project leader (who disappeared long ago) was disgusted with fans during the Wind/NNL debacle.

unlike NNL that still giving out the patch to those who can give they some kind of proof that they purchased the original wind

No, anyone can download the Wind patch.

In fact, NNL isn't concerned with piracy now that the game is out of print (although they still urge players to support the product by buying the cheap PS2 version).

[Klashikari]

Please, I would like to remind you this is the Translation Project thread for CLANNAD, and it isn't destined to be a drama corner of past translation project whatsoever.

Please stick with the topic of the thread.

[todkapuz]

As for myself, I had a feeling that something would happen at work to kill my good-pace.. oh well... just over 10% left on my first pass of 6801... sadly have to go in to work again tomorrow...

But yeah, over all translation checking would be helpful.. there is a number of lines that I read, and i know ithas to be saying something else... but cant find it.

[Komori]

Hm... official build... Yeah, I was kind of impatient and got the unofficial one. Since it doesn't really harm my game (Just rename SEEN.TXT to SEEN01.TXT and then move SEEN.TXT into the game folder), I figured I'd use it.
I wonder when the official build is going to come out. Since I don't know how long editing will take, I have no guesses. :p. I'm guessing one stage at a time.
If you're an editor (you have to be confirmed with v7 or something I think, not entirely sure), you can get an official build which has all of the styling, etc. I HIGHLY recommend getting it if you're an editor and to not use the unofficial builds, which crashes, has sloppy hacks, isn't as pretty, isn't up to date, and includes the voice patches. But don't bug v7 for it if you're just interested in playing it without editing or I'll kill you. :)

Hm... Maybe that SEEN is a dependant SEEN. Like, does it seem like every 70 lines he suddenly starts to say that again with no real connection to the lines before it, or does it seem like he is just repeating himself?
Probably part of another choice. The .ke files tell which line to go for a certain option and is not noted at all in the script.

[todkapuz]

6800 4224 Lines Left (haven't been keeping track of V's rate)
6801 109 lines left (one more night for me plus a little to clean it up and make it usable in a build)
6802 3143 lines left (another month at my rate)
6803 2 lines left

Pretty amazing, after just over a year only 7478 lines left. Hmm.. anyone bothered to determine how many lines total there were in the game? just out of curiosity sake?

[Zenemis]

I heard 65k or so, might be off though.

I could see 6800 being finished maybe mid Feb.

[Kristen]

I heard 65k or so, might be off though.

I could see 6800 being finished maybe mid Feb.

At the present rate of you going at about 66 lines a day, as well as V7 going 66 lines a day, that is about 132 lines a day. That's about 40 days to complete the SEEN.
Unless somebody increases their speed, decreases their speed, or if another translator hops on that SEEN.

If things continue like this, I'm looking forward to March, which would then be the end of the Translation phase. :)

[Zenemis]

Yeah, guess you're right :P

I've got alot of work for the next 2 weeks as well =/

[dgreater1]

I heard 65k or so, might be off though.

I could see 6800 being finished maybe mid Feb.

100,000+ lines actually... but I think it's around 105k, minus 5-10% repeatition of lines (that is, if you'll manage to remember those consistent lines).

I made this a year ago, CLANNAD Total Lines (not exact but 99% close) (http://www.freewebs.com/dgreater1/Clannad%20Total%20lines.htm)

Good thing it's still rotting in the site... :heh:

[Zenemis]

About 100k...

Lord of the Rings, including the Trilogy, The Hobbit, and the Silmarillion, is apparently 3.6 million words.

Is Clannad actually unusually long compared to other Visual Novels?

It was the first, and probably last one I'll play (don't get me wrong, I loved it, just probably wouldn't do it again) :P

[Joachim]

Yeah, the thing about the To Heart 2 translation is that there's no evidence that it exists. Unlike the Wind beta, not one person has said that they've acquired it, including those involved with eroge translations (the team claims to have released the patch to respected members of those communities. They also said that people with the patch could distribute it to friends). Most likely, the announcement was just a parting shot at people who bothered the team.

Incidentally, the issues regarding Shuffle! are possibly linked to fan/translator relationships. We know that the project leader (who disappeared long ago) was disgusted with fans during the Wind/NNL debacle.



No, anyone can download the Wind patch.

In fact, NNL isn't concerned with piracy now that the game is out of print (although they still urge players to support the product by buying the cheap PS2 version).

off topic to clear misunderstanding

mate i said that thing about NNL, just in contrast as what that leaf do, at first though nnl didn't exactly release it as easy at it is now (need all those proof and stuff)--> thus resulting in the early NNL drama, and later they did release it so anyone can download it(without all the original proof of purchasing) unlike that leaf translation team, and yes i got the patch when they finally decided to release it to public :D thats why i even defend NNL's name when someone said bad things about them.

okay back to translation, proofreading, can i straightly change what i think is not that good to read? or i should submit some letter regarding of my choice of words? ;)

[Zenemis]

You can probably change it if you really think yours is much better, but if you do, leave the original line as a comment underneath.

[Kristen]

About 100k...

Lord of the Rings, including the Trilogy, The Hobbit, and the Silmarillion, is apparently 3.6 million words.

Is Clannad actually unusually long compared to other Visual Novels?

It was the first, and probably last one I'll play (don't get me wrong, I loved it, just probably wouldn't do it again) :P

Well, at 100,000 lines, each line would need to be 36 words long to math the length of the Lord of the Rings. However, lines such as "Um..." or "I see." really drive down the word count.

If you want a comparison, I'd look more into plays. Shakespeare's "Hamlet" was 6,051 lines long. A midsummer night's dream was 3,121 lines long. So, averaging about 4,000 lines a play, Clannad is the equivalent of 25 shakespeare plays.

Each line in Shakespeare is about 5 words long. So, Clannad would be about 500,000 words long total. War and Peace is 560,000 words long.


Also: Are you sure it is 3.6 million? I've been looking online, and I'm getting like 300-500 thousand. You figure, The trilogy is 1,000 pages, and the Hobbit plus the Silmarillion is about 600, that is 1600 pages. It would need 2,000 words per page if it were to be 3.6 million words. I use 250 words as a base for my page counts. :p. Also, 3.6 million would mean that LOTR is 6 times longer than War and Peace.

[Zenemis]

I got mine from an answers.com page, which isn't exactly accurate :P

I coulda sworn it was longer than that, though it's been a long time since I've read it :P

Regarding the Shakespeare plays though, if I recall correctly, there's quite a few really long lines in there, like mini-poem length lines, contrasting against some of Clannad's one word lines.

Your estimate seems alot more sensible, but LotR still felt alot longer o.o

[Aetheri]

100,000+ lines actually... but I think it's around 105k, minus 5-10% repeatition of lines (that is, if you'll manage to remember those consistent lines).

I made this a year ago, CLANNAD Total Lines (not exact but 99% close) (http://www.freewebs.com/dgreater1/Clannad%20Total%20lines.htm)

Good thing it's still rotting in the site... :heh:

Your chart has a few errors in it, but still manages to come out to about the right number of lines.

Also, time for fun facts about CLANNAD.

CLANNAD has 102375 total lines.
This included 35471 narrated lines and 66904 spoken lines.
CLANNAD has 24195 repeated lines. (Note: this counts only the text of the line, who said it/ if it was said by the narrator does not matter)

The line repeated most often?
"………", 2471 times.

Yes, I have too much time on my hands. Have to do something to drive away the boredom of editing thousands of lines of text. Besides, knowing which lines are duplicates might help when checking for consistency later.

[todkapuz]

CLANNAD has 102375 total lines.
This included 35471 narrated lines and 66904 spoken lines.
CLANNAD has 24195 repeated lines. (Note: this counts only the text of the line, who said it/ if it was said by the narrator does not matter)

The line repeated most often?
"………", 2471 times.

Yes, I have too much time on my hands. Have to do something to drive away the boredom of editing thousands of lines of text. Besides, knowing which lines are duplicates might help when checking for consistency later.

Might be something to think about if the group decides to do another one of these tanslations... build a bot or something to quickly identify the highly-used lines... and post those first... translate them ... and go back put them into the files... i dunno, maybe too much work for too little gain...

Consistency checking of Clannad is going to be a nightmare.... :) thats all i know.

Now my fun facts...

With 1916 lines translated, I've added 88,585 bytes of english... "// " accounts for 5748 bytes... so that leaves about 43 bytes to the average line of english, including spaces and etc. Wikipedia people claim that the average word length including a space is 6 bytes... so 7.17 words per line. Hm.. so 13,738 words thus far in Seen 6801.... feels about right.

So over all the lines in Clannad, if these hold true, then 734,029 words in the clannad game in english.

[GyroidFanatic]

My too much free time tells me they're 92.58% done (going by lines) with the translation, with only 7593 lines to go, mostly in 6800 and 6802.

[Komori]

Might be something to think about if the group decides to do another one of these tanslations... build a bot or something to quickly identify the highly-used lines... and post those first... translate them ... and go back put them into the files... i dunno, maybe too much work for too little gain...
Ah ha, a friend was suggesting something similar for another project I'm working on. Actually, this wouldn't be *too* hard. It might take a few minutes to process all the data but I think it's an easy application.

Maybe I'll code it and run it on the Clannad scripts and post a small wiki page with the information so people can check it over.

[Aetheri]

Ah ha, a friend was suggesting something similar for another project I'm working on. Actually, this wouldn't be *too* hard. It might take a few minutes to process all the data but I think it's an easy application.

Maybe I'll code it and run it on the Clannad scripts and post a small wiki page with the information so people can check it over.

No need to duplicate effort, it's already done.

[todkapuz]

Ah ha, a friend was suggesting something similar for another project I'm working on. Actually, this wouldn't be *too* hard. It might take a few minutes to process all the data but I think it's an easy application.

Maybe I'll code it and run it on the Clannad scripts and post a small wiki page with the information so people can check it over.


Might be useful, if your going to write one now... for it to work with the current scripts as seen on the wiki... and pull all the various translations made... may help with the consistancy check.. see things that we will need to root out of the script :)

[Kristen]

Might be useful, if your going to write one now... for it to work with the current scripts as seen on the wiki... and pull all the various translations made... may help with the consistancy check.. see things that we will need to root out of the script :)

By the way, I saw that you finalized like 1/4 of the script already. Impressive, if I may say so myself. :) Maybe your pace is for Wednesday. :p

Soon, very soon, there will only be 2 unbolded SEENs on the chart. This is the beginning of the end.

[Zenemis]

That sounds omnious o.o

If anyone can help check 6800/7 and 6803, that'd be greatly appreciated =)

[Komori]

No need to duplicate effort, it's already done.
I didn't see your previous post. If you could upload it or something, that'd be nice, otherwise I'll have to code something similar anyway.

[Aetheri]

I didn't see your previous post. If you could upload it or something, that'd be nice, otherwise I'll have to code something similar anyway.

If you're going to be using it on another project, then you should probably write your own. The program I wrote makes a lot of assumptions about the formatting of the script files, so it's not portable.

As for uploading, where would I put it? On the translation wiki?

[Kristen]

Todkapuz, are you doing 1 pass of TL Cleanup, or 2 passes? From your edit summary of the first 1/4, I couldn't tell whether you meant that you are cleaning up your first pass, or if you are doing a first pass of cleanup.