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Risaa
2007-08-14, 18:11
Too bad she's short!
That line is both funny and sad to me. (*simultaneously laughs and weeps at the same time*)

Actually, I'm starting to see my height in different light since talking about Japanese girls with a friend of mine. Apparently I'm on the tallish end but still average there - about a Kagami-size. :) I'm thrilled I won't be considered a "gigantic gaijin" there but that I'll still able to talk to people a little above eye-to-eye level. :p

Hellychan
2007-08-14, 20:42
I'm thinking mimi might win me over risa at this point, she's got pretty eyes! Too bad she's short!

No she's not, it's just the perspective view which makes her seem to be short :p

ReAn
2007-08-14, 22:00
No she's not, it's just the perspective view which makes her seem to be short :p

Im 193cm, to me... everyone's short.... even risa!

Vexx
2007-08-14, 22:17
aye... I'm only 183cm and most people in my region eye-level at my chin or below (European, South American, or Asian stock). Since I tend to associate with Asian and Hispanics frequently, it is rare anyone exceeds shoulder level.
As a tall pale wraith, my presence scares the little children so they'll stay close to mom or dad :)

Risaa
2007-08-14, 22:55
That reminds me of the time I went to pick my sister up at school. I stayed at a little park nearby and played on the swings a little (instead of suffocating in the car :p ) and a girl at least a head taller than me shows up and says she's in 7th grade. She asks me what grade I'm in and I reply, "13th grade".... and she just kind of gasped and went away. :p

nanafan
2007-08-14, 23:10
that sucks risaa. at my old school i was one of the tallest girls...it wasn't that fun, i guess that's why i wanted to be short. still haven 't seen the raw of ep 19 yet..but want too.. eh risa's still the girl for me..i love her personality and everything...she's awesome!

risa_chan
2007-08-15, 03:51
My family in Japan went into shock when they found out I hit 160cm, haha.

I wonder if this will end at 26 episodes... I really hope not! They're about halfway through with book 7 out of 16 (plus the Final Chapter that was recently published in Japan), and they're at episode 18. It would be so nice if 36+ episodes were released!!

outcast_within
2007-08-15, 06:17
offtopic: on tokyo tosho i see lots of wings of rean stuff. was thinking of this tall computer guy that visits this topic.

ReAn
2007-08-15, 08:19
offtopic: on tokyo tosho i see lots of wings of rean stuff. was thinking of this tall computer guy that visits this topic.

That show is my nemesis, i had this nickname way before that concept was even thought up. Now people are gonna think i got it from that show *grrrr*

And for those wondering, no i don't have wings.


/Ontopic

Ep 19 was (last I heard) on schedule for a normal release so far, but we'll see how it goes.

Bonta Kun
2007-08-15, 13:25
I was all aboard the Mimi bandwagon ever since she appeared in the manga, I really like her type of character don't know why but I do:p

the 3 characters I really like are Seiko-chan, Nobu-chan, and Mimi-chan:love:
like a bit of S N M :heh:

nanafan
2007-08-15, 14:35
how far are you in the manga bonta-kun?

Bonta Kun
2007-08-15, 18:19
how far are you in the manga bonta-kun?

eh whatever the translated scans got up to, think its chapter 28 or something. come to think about it, its the part where they just introduced Mimi sooo bascially not any further than what the anime is at really. I get really lazy when comes to this stuff and haven't checked if theres any updates, happens with alot of the stuff I do:p

kira-sama
2007-08-16, 09:26
uo!!!! "screaming"
just finishes watch from episode 16-18
episode 18 was the best episode

at last Otani kiss Risa "twice!!!!"
ohohohoho
when the second times otani wanted to kiss risa i like the expression of otani "like gentleman ^_^;"
i ithink otani love risa but he's too shy

ReAn
2007-08-17, 15:00
uo!!!! "screaming"
just finishes watch from episode 16-18
episode 18 was the best episode

at last Otani kiss Risa "twice!!!!"
ohohohoho
when the second times otani wanted to kiss risa i like the expression of otani "like gentleman ^_^;"
i ithink otani love risa but he's too shy

You know, this show really sheds light on how 'universal' love really is. I've been finding recently that romance shows are more widely accepted around the world.

After chatting on the kisssub forums in the LC board w/ the fans there, I really realize how diverse the fanbase for LC is. We span the globe, all corners of it. This really differs from your action based stuff, which seems to see the largest success in the states / canada.

LC really seems like it touches people of all shapes & sizes from all parts of the world.

I started to realize the diversity in anime watching when i ran my website www.anime-checkpoint.com because i had hits from just about every nation in the world, including iran/iraq/saudi, as well as various places in europe and asia.

Slice of Life
2007-08-17, 17:22
:confused: Why do you think that action doesn't go outside of North America? Take a look at Kuro Hana for example who do pure refined shounen stuff and automagically add nice little flags to the comments on their HP. Here's a world united in whining after the Death Note C&D letters (long!):

http://kuro-hanasubs.com/?p=55#comments

The last entries are especially interesting, they show that computers corrupted by spam bots are also a wolrdwide phenomenon. :D

Zerokule
2007-08-17, 18:23
I'm watching the live action movie right now and need to know if life in Japan for teenagers is really like this? I want to think no and it's just overly dramatic, but I know Japan is the home of the weird. Do people really wear their hats like that and dress like that?

ReAn
2007-08-17, 18:27
:confused: Why do you think that action doesn't go outside of North America? Take a look at Kuro Hana for example who do pure refined shounen stuff and automagically add nice little flags to the comments on their HP. Here's a world united in whining after the Death Note C&D letters (long!):

http://kuro-hanasubs.com/?p=55#comments

The last entries are especially interesting, they show that computers corrupted by spam bots are also a wolrdwide phenomenon. :D

It was an exaduration, im just saying I've noticed a trend that love shows are generally more accepted everywhere, they speak to everyone.

You wouldn't find to many war movies in a war-torn country, but everyone can relate to love.

I'm watching the live action movie right now and need to know if life in Japan for teenagers is really like this? I want to think no and it's just overly dramatic, but I know Japan is the home of the weird. Do people really wear their hats like that and dress like that?

There are some similarities, but a lot of things are blown out of proportion so take it all with a grain of salt.

Zerokule
2007-08-17, 18:32
There are some similarities, but a lot of things are blown out of proportion so take it all with a grain of salt.

Don't get me wrong, it makes the movie freakin HILARIOUS, but I just wanted to make sure my understanding of Japan wasn't ruined.

nanafan
2007-08-17, 18:34
i watched a bit of the raw..interesting..

Risaa
2007-08-18, 02:25
Ooh, check it out:According to the September issue of Shojo Beat, and as confirmed by a representative at Viz Media, Viz Pictures plans to release the Lovely Complex live-action movie in the spring of 2008. No other details about the company's release plans are currently available. The Lovely Complex manga is serialized in Shojo Beat, but the anime is not available in North America. Thanks, Daniel Zelter. Update: The Lovely Complex manga is not serialized in Shojo Beat, but is rather released under the Shojo Beat label, ANN apologizes for this error.(Quoted from ANN (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-08-16/viz-pictures-to-release-lovely-complex-movie).)

TigerII
2007-08-18, 08:08
I wonder if there are any hits from Antartica. Maybe the scientist down there like LC.

hi no ken Jebus
2007-08-18, 09:21
I liked this episode quite a bit. Mimi and Koizumi make for good comedy especially Mimi going from psycho to cutesy on her:heh:. I doubt she'll make a return appearance considering how the plot is moving at light speed. Right after they cleared the Mimi hurdle and grow closer together, it looks like Ohtani going to college will become their next obstacle. Looking forward to Maity in drag:heh:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4822/lc20jh4.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lc20jh4.jpg)

Risaa
2007-08-18, 14:00
I wonder if there are any hits from Antartica. Maybe the scientist down there like LC.
There's always that one person who has to give the smart-ass comment... XD

TigerII
2007-08-18, 16:49
Read sig. :D

Sinestra
2007-08-18, 22:35
I cant wait to see the live action movie that should be loads of fun. I figured most people have heard by now but just encase you didnt here is the announcement.

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2007-08-16/viz-pictures-to-release-lovely-complex-movie

Risaa
2007-08-18, 22:42
*coughcough (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1100841&postcount=1520)cough*

/runs away :(

Question
2007-08-19, 02:16
Can someone post a decently sized screencap of Seiko here please?

Slice of Life
2007-08-19, 07:58
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1092264&postcount=1465

Click on "spolier for Seiko-chan". (There's only the pic behind.)

Question
2007-08-19, 18:12
Thanks, that was a big help.

ReAn
2007-08-20, 03:26
Thanks, that was a big help.

Perhaps you can convince Polarized_123 to make a vector for you =D I would, but unfortunately I'm too busy as of late.

Speaking of which, i've recieved no feedback on my vector of MIMI, this is definately /sadpants material. :(

outcast_within
2007-08-20, 05:34
Well nobody who follow the subs and not the raws/manga know who mimi is.
I didn't miss the release of ep 19 did i?

grey_moon
2007-08-20, 06:51
Hoo hoo, nope u didn't miss the release, I've been patiently waiting too and trying not to spoil myself. I'm just glad I'm pretty busy with work (well meant to be ;p)

I can't wait to meet the new character and more importantly to see how Otani and Risa act like as a couple.

outcast_within
2007-08-20, 08:43
probably very akward and full of insecurity
and not much kissing.

doesn't it seem that whenever anime people have their first kiss they stop kissing?
Just wondering

ReAn
2007-08-20, 08:49
Hoo hoo, nope u didn't miss the release, I've been patiently waiting too and trying not to spoil myself. I'm just glad I'm pretty busy with work (well meant to be ;p)

I can't wait to meet the new character and more importantly to see how Otani and Risa act like as a couple.

probably very akward and full of insecurity
and not much kissing.

doesn't it seem that whenever anime people have their first kiss they stop kissing?
Just wondering

Speaking of which, I have NO IDEA where LC 19 is... I will have to check with the team.

EDIT: Update** I believe 19 should be around sooner rather than later...

mdauben
2007-08-20, 08:54
EDIT: Update** I believe 19 should be around sooner rather than later...
Thanks for the update, ReAn! I can't wait to see how that "first date" goes. :heh:

nanafan
2007-08-20, 09:41
hey guys sup?yay 19 will be out soon!

Bonta Kun
2007-08-20, 10:10
I don't think this is a anime where they think kissing is soooo taboo, after all they did both force a kiss on each other. maybe a little akwardness and insecurity. But I really hope its not too much as I've had enough of that type of thing.
Don't think their gonna beat around the bush when they both got what they want now.;)

I so hope they stick close to the manga for their first kiss as a couple:p

hhm actually maybe not first kiss as a couple

ReAn
2007-08-20, 10:26
hey guys sup?yay 19 will be out soon!

Like right now.

Ep 19 released, check my distro or look for the torrent.

Edit: Distro Active!

mdauben
2007-08-20, 10:31
Like right now.

Ep 19 released, check my distro or look for the torrent.

Edit: Distro Active!
Got the torrent! Downloading... NOW! :D

Gippet
2007-08-20, 11:41
Eny1 can give me a link for torrent?

Bonta Kun
2007-08-20, 11:59
I can't find torrent either :( ah nevermind found it :p

btw ReAn, did you do all those walls and icons on what I'm guessing is your site?
If so great stuff. Thinking of using using a Risa ava, somehow I do think she is very cute in her own way when she's not making the faces:p

TigerII
2007-08-20, 12:16
Yay, almost done with torrent.

ReAn
2007-08-20, 12:22
I can't find torrent either :( ah nevermind found it :p

btw ReAn, did you do all those walls and icons on what I'm guessing is your site?
If so great stuff. Thinking of using using a Risa ava, somehow I do think she is very cute in her own way when she's not making the faces:p

If you are talking about:

http://www.reanmachine.com/?page_id=15

No, they are media i had submitted or found, it's extremely out of date.

I have a compilation of Ava's and Walls I've made, I will re-post them here:

Avatars:

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-risa01.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-risa02.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-risa03.gif

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-risa04.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-risa05.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-risa06.gif

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-group01.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-meity01.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-meity02.gif

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-nobu01.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-nobu02.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep14-otani01.gif

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep15-risa01.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep15-risa02.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep15-risa03.gif

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep15-risa04.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep15-nobu01.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep15-nobu02.gif

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep15-otani01.gif http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/avatars/ep19-mimi01.gif

Wallpapers:

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/wallpapers/LovelyComplex-Mimi01-1920x1200tn.png (http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/wallpapers/LovelyComplex-Mimi01-1920x1200.png)

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/wallpapers/LovelyComplex-Mimi01-1600x1200tn.png (http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/wallpapers/LovelyComplex-Mimi01-1600x1200.png)

http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/wallpapers/wallpaper-1680x1050-risa01tn.png (http://images.reanmachine.com/anime/lovelycomplex/wallpapers/wallpaper-1680x1050-risa01.png)

Polaryzed_123
2007-08-20, 12:31
File->Save, File-Save,File->Save, File-Save,File->Save, File-Save,File->Save, File-Save,File->Save, File-Save....
whew. This is tiring!
File->Save, File-Save,File->Save, File-Save....

Furudanuki
2007-08-20, 13:07
RE ep #19: ROFLMAO! That certainly has to rank as one of the "Top Five Most Public Confessions" in recent anime history!

Slice of Life
2007-08-20, 13:16
The Parakiss dropout everybody has been talking about for ages finally had her entrance. And she's the first girl besides Risa who's actually taller than Ootani LOL. At least I don't remember anybody else.

grey_moon
2007-08-20, 13:23
Thank you for the update ReAN!

Otani is the man, he immediately did his best to quash any anxiety of Risa's. I remember when I first started going out with a girl who didn't like people to know that she actually had a boyfriend it was really really annoying.

The funniest scenes was when Otani walked up the stairs to find the scooby gang eavesdropping on him :), and when they were outted on the large screen.

I don't think Risa is capable of taking on Mimi... She is too fragile atm, I wonder how she is going to over come her... I think Otani is going to step in and save the day....


lovecom - i love it :)

mdauben
2007-08-20, 13:36
Man! I thought they would never top ep 18, but this one was just as good! The fireworks, the jumbotron, and the introductions. LovCom has to be one of the best combination of romance and comedy I have ever seen.

Thanks again to ReAn and the rest of KissSubs for allowing me to enjoy this great show! :D

Gaara133
2007-08-20, 13:53
Awesome episode I can't wait until 20, it'll be another long 10 days >.<; BTW Mimi is SCARY!!!!

Bonta Kun
2007-08-20, 13:53
just loving the lovely, it's just absolutely brilliant.

from the very small part that Mimi shows up in I'm alrdy loving her:love: now my S N M group is complete:p

this now rates in my top 5 favorite anime shows, its just too good.

ReAn
2007-08-20, 14:01
Man! I thought they would never top ep 18, but this one was just as good! The fireworks, the jumbotron, and the introductions. LovCom has to be one of the best combination of romance and comedy I have ever seen.

Thanks again to ReAn and the rest of KissSubs for allowing me to enjoy this great show! :D

On behalf of the KissSub crew: You're Welcome

Awesome episode I can't wait until 20, it'll be another long 10 days >.<; BTW Mimi is SCARY!!!!

Who said anything about 10 days? Ep 20's script is already being timed (but not by me *sadface*)

just loving the lovely, it's just absolutely brilliant.

from the very small part that Mimi shows up in I'm alrdy loving her:love: now my S N M group is complete:p

this now rates in my top 5 favorite anime shows, its just too good.

From what i've seen, ep 20 is mimiariffic!

Gaara133
2007-08-20, 14:35
Who said anything about 10 days? Ep 20's script is already being timed (but not by me *sadface*)





Well I just saw a pattern of 10 days in between each episode (except for a few) but I knew someone was going to say something about it :p

TigerII
2007-08-20, 14:41
Yay at 19!

Yeah thanks ReAn and kissub for subbing this and subbing so fast.

outcast_within
2007-08-20, 16:40
Yeah the public confession was great
the balloons very funny
Still don't really get the mimi hype but i'm sure she'll be a nice bipolar character

All in all an epic ep for the lovecomplex series

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j92/outcast_within/vlcsnap-43320.png

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j92/outcast_within/vlcsnap-43721.png

Ashlotte
2007-08-20, 16:46
Only those two idiots could manage to accidentally get their confession broadcast on the jumbo screen. :heh:

Well im happy that mimi sounds as crazy as I imagined she would haha. I don't think ill take any sides on this fight...Always love risa, but mimi's looks like too much fun to hate her. :p

TigerII
2007-08-20, 16:47
Am glad they did not go back in their relationship.

outcast_within
2007-08-20, 17:23
probably very akward and full of insecurity
and not much kissing.

doesn't it seem that whenever anime people have their first kiss they stop kissing?
Just wondering

i was partially right.

Full of insecurity but not very akward but full of koi instead.
Also right about not kissing anymore

TigerII
2007-08-20, 17:24
^^ In Shuffle they did several more times...untill she fainted.

nanafan
2007-08-20, 20:45
just watched ep 19. great! cute and mimi is scary...possessive..

bruno321
2007-08-20, 21:12
19 was a nice episode. But I'd appreciate this series twice as much if the female protagonist wasn't such a crybaby. It's unbearable!

Also, misunderstandings + Otani expresses little + Risa imagining strange stories on her mind = me tired.

At least...

at least Otani finally says "she's my girlfriend", and the whole "oh, you said I was just your friend, boo hoo hoo" which is canon on this kind of series, was reduced to some few minutes and on the side of Otani, which is a change

Plus, stupid high-pitched sounds + flowers + three balloons with their kissing image on them (bis) (bis) = tiring.

I'm really sorry to crash the party here, but I really don't see why this series gets so much praise. Yeah, I can understand it's somewhat original on it's main idea, but on the facts it's been quite unbeareable. At times I've kept on watching it only because of Kansai-ben...

rarukyu
2007-08-20, 21:18
what an episode! hahah it seems risa has perhaps a rival on her hands? needless to say mimi will be a trouble on for her haha. wonder how this'll turn out in the next episiode!
oh i just loved the part of the confession broadcasted! hahaha i laughed so much.

ReAn
2007-08-20, 21:51
19 was a nice episode. But I'd appreciate this series twice as much if the female protagonist wasn't such a crybaby. It's unbearable!

Also, misunderstandings + Otani expresses little + Risa imagining strange stories on her mind = me tired.

At least...

at least Otani finally says "she's my girlfriend", and the whole "oh, you said I was just your friend, boo hoo hoo" which is canon on this kind of series, was reduced to some few minutes and on the side of Otani, which is a change

Plus, stupid high-pitched sounds + flowers + three balloons with their kissing image on them (bis) (bis) = tiring.

I'm really sorry to crash the party here, but I really don't see why this series gets so much praise. Yeah, I can understand it's somewhat original on it's main idea, but on the facts it's been quite unbeareable. At times I've kept on watching it only because of Kansai-ben...

The anime itself has a low budget, perhaps you should try the manga, you may like it better.

what an episode! hahah it seems risa has perhaps a rival on her hands? needless to say mimi will be a trouble on for her haha. wonder how this'll turn out in the next episiode!
oh i just loved the part of the confession broadcasted! hahaha i laughed so much.

Mimi is dangerous, did you catch a glimpse of that firey passion?!

mdauben
2007-08-20, 23:25
19 was a nice episode. But I'd appreciate this series twice as much if the female protagonist wasn't such a crybaby. It's unbearable!
I suppose it might get old after a while, but personally I think it just adds to her "adorability" factor at this point. Despite being big and tall and rather boisterous, she is actually very fragil emotionally, and that is something that Otani needs to understand if this relationship is going to work.

at least Otani finally says "she's my girlfriend", and the whole "oh, you said I was just your friend, boo hoo hoo" which is canon on this kind of series, was reduced to some few minutes and on the side of Otani, which is a change
I don't know, perhaps I am reading too much into that buisness myself, but I thought...
At first Otani was trying to keep their relationship quiet and didn't want to come out "in public" with it. Then, when Risa said "he is just my friend" in the resturant, he realized that it hurt his feelings for her to say that. Recognizing that Risa might feel the same way, I think that's why he introduced her as "my girlfriend" when the ex met them at the sporting event.
Plus, stupid high-pitched sounds + flowers + three balloons with their kissing image on them (bis) (bis) = tiring.
Actually, those were fireworks with their images on them, and I think the sound was supposed to be "chu" (the sound Japanese use to indicate kisses), referring back to last episode when they kissed each other for the first time during fireworks display (I say first time becuase I don't think the "sick day" or the time Risa grabbed him count). The flower backgrounds are just a visual convention you see in a lot of shoujo anime and manga.
I actually thought that was both funny and kind of sweet, myself. ;)

I'm really sorry to crash the party here, but I really don't see why this series gets so much praise. Yeah, I can understand it's somewhat original on it's main idea, but on the facts it's been quite unbeareable.
Well, no series is for everyone, but for me it's hitting all the right chords. I have to ask, though, why you keep watching it if you think it's so bad...? :uhoh:

rarukyu
2007-08-20, 23:47
Mimi is dangerous, did you catch a glimpse of that firey passion?!

hahaha! oh i did i did and i'm more anxious to see what she has in store for risa! i have a feeling otani will be quite busy lol. :heh:

ReAn
2007-08-21, 02:53
Ep 20 Update: (Bold is completed)

Translation
Translation Check
Timing
Editing
Typesetting
Encoding
Quality Checking

P.S. I know you all are happy 19 came out yesterday, but i was kinda hoping it'd take till today, since it'd be 19 out for my b-day, like a little b-day present from kisssub, lol.

I'm 22 btw...

Nenkitsune
2007-08-21, 03:09
I don't know why, but I wanted to cry cause i was so happy XP
Sometimes I wonder just what percentage of my brain is actually male.....

First thing when I saw Mimi was
Mimi=Ears
Then she said she didn't hear a thing XP that made me laugh
She's evil~

Risaa
2007-08-21, 03:39
ReAn, happy birthday! :D Thanks for giving us updates on KissSub's status and just generally posting and contributing here.

As a gift, I give you 246 internetz just for today. ;)

outcast_within
2007-08-21, 03:44
I normally don't do congratulations to people who ask for it :P
but since you are a subber and all
Congratulations on your 22th birthday, may this year bring you a giant woman sprinkled with whipcream

Shiroth
2007-08-21, 06:31
Episode 19 had lots of lovely moments --- it helped that the musical score truly came through this time. I couldn't help but lol at Otani's death cry near the start of the episode.

Now its time for the attack of the next door neighbor!

& Happy Birthday ReAn --- wonder if i'll be watching Lovely Complex on my birthday in a few days. :3

Polaryzed_123
2007-08-21, 06:43
Episode 19 had lots of lovely moments --- it helped that the musical score truly came through this time. I couldn't help but lol at Otani's death cry near the start of the episode.I agree. I also thought that the animation was better this ep than some of the previous eps. They seemed to take more time and use more good shots. There were still a few not so good shots, but on the whole I think the animation was better than a few eps ago. This ep made me feel all warm and fuzzy for the first 95% of it. And then...BAM! Fiery eyes of Doooooommm! Now I'm scared for ep 20...

Sinestra
2007-08-21, 06:52
Kisssubs are doing an excellent job rolling out Lovley complex so i can get my gaint woman fix thanks a lot guys

Wow when Risa is happy the girl is happy. I understand why Otani was a little embrassed about things but he should know by now if you think youre talking is secret youre not Nobu-chan and gang are always around to eavesdrop. I think episode 19 really showed Risa's girly side. The crying about leaving her purse at home and not being able to have a bandaid for Otani were good examples but also that she said she wanted to look cute for Otani since it was their first date. The little CHu Chu sounds Risa heard everytime she remember that "thing" refering to her and Otani's kiss was so cute i thought i was going break down into tears of happiness. Risa had so many cute moments during this episode it hard to pick just one overall. She was honest to god happy and not just pretending so things wouldnt be weird its wonderful to see her patience pay off

I glad Otani finally called Risa his girlfriend those puppy dog eyes when Mimi asked who she was was too cute.
wow Mimi's firey eyes of death are scary and i think she might be pure evil. She's a middle school student looking like that i mean damn. Well its obvious she refuses to accept Risa as Otani's girlfriend and has fendish schems in hand for our poor Risa. I guess its one of those im the only one good enough to be with Otani and everyone else can go to hell. The girl has got some serious firey youth spirit going on too bad its in the form of the devil and directed at Risa.

I hope Otani and Risa can hold on to their newfound relationship despite outside interferences. Its been a long time since i actually like both persons invovled in a romance. Otani is a good guy and Risa is a breath of fresh air keep it together guys:D

Sorrow-K
2007-08-21, 07:32
The good things in this ep go without saying, and although I didn't like the fireworks-chu motif, it's a minor gripe. But, a major (potential) gripe I have is with the introduction of the wedge character in Mimi. I mean, she's a plot device, there purely to provide a conflict for Risa and Otani and their relationship to overcome. It's probably inevitable that they'd have to face such a hurdle eventually, but did they have to introduce her so soon after they got together, when there are probably a number of other issues the could have dealt with in the meantime that could have popped up a little more naturally, eg dealing with the slight awkwardness that still remains between them and things of that nature.

It just seems to me that they're putting more interesting issues on the backburner in favour of the old third-wheel wedge cliche that should only take an episode to deal with, else it becomes recurring and annoying.

More a fear than a complaint, and probably premature, since this series has quelled all my fears well before any of them have become significant problems. I suppose, as long as each episode has some sort of relationship development, then it's going in the right direction.

Furudanuki
2007-08-21, 08:07
Otanjoubi omedetou gozaimasu, ReAn-san! There is no cake to be found, but hopefully a birthday cookie will suffice. :)

ReAn
2007-08-21, 08:19
I normally don't do congratulations to people who ask for it :P
but since you are a subber and all
Congratulations on your 22th birthday, may this year bring you a giant woman sprinkled with whipcream

Well wasn't really my intention to ASK for it, but i've had too many b-days go by w/ nothing mainly cuz people didn't know about it, so i figured i'd spread the word.

Otanjoubi omedetou gozaimasu, ReAn-san! There is no cake to be found, but hopefully a birthday cookie will suffice. :)

& Happy Birthday ReAn --- wonder if i'll be watching Lovely Complex on my birthday in a few days. :3

Arigatou mina-san.

ReAn, happy birthday! :D Thanks for giving us updates on KissSub's status and just generally posting and contributing here.

As a gift, I give you 246 internetz just for today. ;)

Lawl, what am I going to do with 246 internetz.... except host a LOT of LC Distros?

Kisssubs are doing an excellent job rolling out Lovley complex so i can get my gaint woman fix thanks a lot guys

Wow when Risa is happy the girl is happy. I understand why Otani was a little embrassed about things but he should know by now if you think youre talking is secret youre not Nobu-chan and gang are always around to eavesdrop. I think episode 19 really showed Risa's girly side. The crying about leaving her purse at home and not being able to have a bandaid for Otani were good examples but also that she said she wanted to look cute for Otani since it was their first date. The little CHu Chu sounds Risa heard everytime she remember that "thing" refering to her and Otani's kiss was so cute i thought i was going break down into tears of happiness. Risa had so many cute moments during this episode it hard to pick just one overall. She was honest to god happy and not just pretending so things wouldnt be weird its wonderful to see her patience pay off

I glad Otani finally called Risa his girlfriend those puppy dog eyes when Mimi asked who she was was too cute.
wow Mimi's firey eyes of death are scary and i think she might be pure evil. She's a middle school student looking like that i mean damn. Well its obvious she refuses to accept Risa as Otani's girlfriend and has fendish schems in hand for our poor Risa. I guess its one of those im the only one good enough to be with Otani and everyone else can go to hell. The girl has got some serious firey youth spirit going on too bad its in the form of the devil and directed at Risa.

I hope Otani and Risa can hold on to their newfound relationship despite outside interferences. Its been a long time since i actually like both persons invovled in a romance. Otani is a good guy and Risa is a breath of fresh air keep it together guys:D

It's good to see those two finally coming together and to terms with thier feelings. I was facepalming the entire ep tho cuz they kept doing silly stuff, oh and the jumbotron moment was perfect!

Technically they wouldn't be able to hear risa/otani, where's the mic?! To the stadium it'd look like they were just talking.

Additionally wouldn't risa/otani hear themselves echoing through the stadium?

Suki! Suki! Suki! Suki! Suki! Suki! Suki! ....

Slice of Life
2007-08-21, 08:26
It's probably inevitable that they'd have to face such a hurdle eventually, but did they have to introduce her so soon after they got together

But such "hurdles" ( = potential competitors) appeared throughout Lovely Complex. Beginning right at the start with Chiharu and Ryouji (who then ended up together), followed by Seiko-chan, Ootani's ex, and finally Maitey. Did I forget somebody? So what's so special about the new character?

EDIT: Names fixed.

ReAn
2007-08-21, 08:39
But such "hurdles" ( = potential competitors) appeared throughout Lovely Complex. Beginning right at the start with Mayu and Haruka (who then ended up together), followed by Seiko-chan, Ootani's ex, and finally Maitey. Did I forget somebody? So what's so special about the new character?

Thanks, that looks like a lot of work.

However, it's Seiko & Haruka, who ended up together (or did they?!), and Mayu was ontai's ex ~_^

You've got your names mixed up there.

Edit: You're missing:

The final character to be added to the mix, i forget his name, but he's in the op w/ black hair & a streak of red down the front.

Slice of Life
2007-08-21, 08:43
Thanks and fixed. I should have looked the names up ... and what happens in the future lies in the future, naturally.

TigerII
2007-08-21, 09:07
Lol, slice....happy day that takes another year of your shortening life span!

Slice of Life
2007-08-21, 09:18
I have the feeling that somebody, somewhere just made sure that ReAn will get some more birthday greetings somewhere else.

Bonta Kun
2007-08-21, 10:26
HAPPY BIRTHDAY ReAn, hope you have a great day. My 22nd I spent at a casino:heh:

anyway heres a little present for ya, enjoy:p

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1618/vlcsnap104997qy4.png

outcast_within
2007-08-21, 11:57
i watched the spoiler lolz

@the third wheel. i'd prefer maybe some more natural obstacles for otani and risa to overcome.
But mimi seems like a hoot anyway and maybe it's also more in the tone of lovely complex.

aliensporebomb
2007-08-21, 12:48
RE ep #19: ROFLMAO! That certainly has to rank as one of the "Top Five Most Public Confessions" in recent anime history!

What I loved:



There was a slight pause. The audience cheers - our heroes think "oh, did
someone score a goal or something?" The comment from the commentator
hits and they see themselves. WHAM! Best public embarassement ever!



Bruno could have been me a while back. Sigh.

(stuff snipped, too tired to comment)

Plus, stupid high-pitched sounds + flowers + three balloons with their kissing image on them (bis) (bis) = tiring.

More stuff snipped...



Well tiring:


Perhaps tiring but put yourself in these characters positions - you might
be bitter and old (or at least in the "give me a break" mode) now but
these kid are in that young love mode where everything is shiny and
new and embarassing and wonderful and the least bit of heartbreak
seems like the earth shattering.


"Stupid high pitched sounds" and our teary heroine:


Yep. I have those sounds on my cellphone now when my wife calls me. Heh.
(how? audiohijack'ed the segment, snipped it, e-mailed it to my cell, use
as ringtone. Whee).

Look: Risa is one of those girls who appears to be a tomboy but really
is a creampuff. She still can't believe she's actually in a "requited"
relationship to begin with so it's going to take her a while to get over
that fact. Also that Otani doesn't really spell everything out for her so
she knows where she stands. She's not very confident. Haven't you
ever met someone like this? Heck, haven't you ever dated someone
like this? At least for me they nailed the characteristics of several
people I've known in the past nearly perfectly. You have to have
known someone like it.

I do wish Otani would go "Risa, relax, would you? No need for waterworks."



So yeah, I like it though.

And Happy Birthday Rean! Thanks for all the hard work!

mdauben
2007-08-21, 13:57
I do wish Otani would go "Risa, relax, would you? No need for waterworks."
He kind of did, didn't he?
When he saw that Risa was "down" at the sports festival, he immediatly took her aside to find out what was wrong. Later on as they are leaving he gets her to laugh so she will stop crying. Obviously, being all "lovey-dovey" isn't his style, but he seems to be showing a definite concern for Risa's feelings, and tries to address them in his own way.
I was actually kind of impressed with him in this episode. After all, he has all along been a pretty considerate guy when it come to Risa. When he did unintentionally hurt her, it had more to do with normal adolecent shyness coupled with his "complex" about his height than anything else. ;)

ReAn
2007-08-21, 19:02
I have the feeling that somebody, somewhere just made sure that ReAn will get some more birthday greetings somewhere else.

Where are you implying?

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ReAn, hope you have a great day. My 22nd I spent at a casino:heh:

anyway heres a little present for ya, enjoy:p

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1618/vlcsnap104997qy4.png

Gah~

What I loved:



There was a slight pause. The audience cheers - our heroes think "oh, did
someone score a goal or something?" The comment from the commentator
hits and they see themselves. WHAM! Best public embarassement ever!



Bruno could have been me a while back. Sigh.




Well tiring:


Perhaps tiring but put yourself in these characters positions - you might
be bitter and old (or at least in the "give me a break" mode) now but
these kid are in that young love mode where everything is shiny and
new and embarassing and wonderful and the least bit of heartbreak
seems like the earth shattering.


"Stupid high pitched sounds" and our teary heroine:


Yep. I have those sounds on my cellphone now when my wife calls me. Heh.
(how? audiohijack'ed the segment, snipped it, e-mailed it to my cell, use
as ringtone. Whee).

Look: Risa is one of those girls who appears to be a tomboy but really
is a creampuff. She still can't believe she's actually in a "requited"
relationship to begin with so it's going to take her a while to get over
that fact. Also that Otani doesn't really spell everything out for her so
she knows where she stands. She's not very confident. Haven't you
ever met someone like this? Heck, haven't you ever dated someone
like this? At least for me they nailed the characteristics of several
people I've known in the past nearly perfectly. You have to have
known someone like it.

I do wish Otani would go "Risa, relax, would you? No need for waterworks."



So yeah, I like it though.

And Happy Birthday Rean! Thanks for all the hard work!

Thx, and NP!

bruno321
2007-08-21, 19:57
Well, no series is for everyone, but for me it's hitting all the right chords. I have to ask, though, why you keep watching it if you think it's so bad...? :uhoh:

I keep watching it because I'm intrigued as to how it will end. Can't help it. Plus, I don't think it is that bad. And yeah, Kansai-ben is still attractive.

And yes, I'm aware of the "chuu" meaning kiss, and I see the point, but it was such a corny scene... (the "reproduction", with the balloons and the high-pitched "chuu") And they repeated it throughout the whole episode. That's why it got on my nerves. The original scene was quite moving, if I had to say.

In the end (as always) it's just a matter of opinion. I mean, we're describing the same things, but what you see as adorable I see as annoying and over the top.

Alliensporebomb:

I'm not bitter nor old, thank you. I believe in a different kind of love, and this love so sugary and corny I find quite disgusting.

I've never met someone like Risa or someone like Otani, sorry.

I do wish Otani would go "Risa, relax, would you? No need for waterworks."

Indeed. In fact, it's the whole "lovey dovey" oh honey oh love oh let's hop around with red hearts all over tires me. I'm not that kind of person. And it's not the kind of love I appreciate.

And this doesn't mean I'm old or bitter. Do you want to watch a love that I found great, really heartfelt and teenage at the same time? Watch "Fucking Amal", from Swedish director Lukas Moodysson.

outcast_within
2007-08-22, 03:01
you should watch lamune :)
that's the kind of love that made me go ugh.

this love i think is way better. go watch lamune and after that appreciate lovely complex :)

Slice of Life
2007-08-22, 07:56
you should watch lamune :)
that's the kind of love that made me go ugh.

this love i think is way better. go watch lamune and after that appreciate lovely complex :)

I must agree. Especially the last episode made me go :uhoh:

Amalia
2007-08-22, 08:20
Happy Birthday ReAn!!!! Thanx for everything

Now i can scream about the 19th episode can't I !!

KYAAAAAAAAAAA

It was SOOOO sweet! Otani, finally I can say it. You are sooo cool! I liked it when he was so down with Risa's reply "he is just a friend of mine", i liked it when he didn't give her the opportunity to doubt him with kanzaki, telling "she is my girlfreind" I found it too KAWAI when Risa said "I wanted to be just a little more cuter for you toay" and Otani holding his chest saying" i think that my heart was a bit stolen just now".. It was magnifique! WOW!
Mimi.. What the heck does a middleschooler wants froma third year high school boy?! (PLZ don't say...i get it...) Anyway, it seems like Otani is a heartbreaker or what? Who would have expected that huh?

Can't wait for ep 20 as always... teehee

passenger
2007-08-22, 08:30
Happy Birthday ReAn!!!! Thanx for everything

Now i can scream about the 19th episode can't I !!

KYAAAAAAAAAAA

It was SOOOO sweet! Otani, finally I can say it. You are sooo cool! I liked it when he was so down with Risa's reply "he is just a friend of mine", i liked it when he didn't give her the opportunity to doubt him with kanzaki, telling "she is my girlfreind" I found it too KAWAI when Risa said "I wanted to be just a little more cuter for you toay" and Otani holding his chest saying" i think that my heart was a bit stolen just now".. It was magnifique! WOW!
Mimi.. What the heck does a middleschooler wants froma third year high school boy?! (PLZ don't say...i get it...) Anyway, it seems like Otani is a heartbreaker or what? Who would have expected that huh?

Can't wait for ep 20 as always... teehee

about the issue between mimi and otani i guess it is somewhat like the relationship between otani and his classmate (the one looks like kanzaki the close friend of risa also forgot her name). although otani want be her boyfriend she did not see her as a guy because their height was almost same. maybe since otani is very short for a senior high schooler mimi may not be thinking him as that way. who knows?

grey_moon
2007-08-22, 10:47
Happy birthday ReAn!!! Many thanks for all the hard work and news :)

All the best for the coming year

bruno321
2007-08-22, 20:51
Hey, Lamune was alright, actually.

They overdid the childhood memories a little bit (it got tiring) and the last two episodes were way out of place, an anti-climax, but eh, aren't we used to those on anime.

Anyway. Best romance in anime = Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu. By far. And yes, I meant romance.

Guido
2007-08-22, 21:20
Risa certainly overdramatized her worries about not behaving like a proper girlfriend to make feel Otani lovey-dovey with her, but Otani finally realized Risas' tears were meant that she really wished for him to say openly that she's his girlfriend.

Whinning and surly, yet Otani lived to Risas' expectations and said first to Kanzaki then Mimi that Risa's his girlfriend.

From the title I initially thought that the disaster would came from Otani getting a little more friendly to Kanzaki, but it wasn't the case.

The real danger lies with Mimi, because she's also for Otani. But it is damn funny how resentful and grudging she behaves against Risa.

The new fun starts at the next episode.

grey_moon
2007-08-23, 03:02
Hoo hoo slurping epi 20 right now, can't wait to see the can or worms called mimi. It is really refreshing to see an anime that doesn't finish with the confession or kiss.

ReAn
2007-08-23, 03:25
Hoo hoo slurping epi 20 right now, can't wait to see the can or worms called mimi. It is really refreshing to see an anime that doesn't finish with the confession or kiss.

Think im gonna watch it on my lunch @ work tomorrow.... oh yea~

outcast_within
2007-08-23, 04:06
Hey, Lamune was alright, actually.

They overdid the childhood memories a little bit (it got tiring) and the last two episodes were way out of place, an anti-climax, but eh, aren't we used to those on anime.

Anyway. Best romance in anime = Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu. By far. And yes, I meant romance.

Best romance in an anime hmmm.
lemme think

Midori no Hibi.

20 is out already? didn't even show in animesuki. glad i popped by in the forums

grey_moon
2007-08-23, 06:02
best romance in anime? lovecom ofc :p

What a great episode i was laughing so hard in parts of it....

Well I can safely say that although she is a model, she is defiantly NOT my type of girl. Risa scored highly on the cool meter today. I loved the way she dealt with the psycho mimi situation :)

How it must have felt when she was watching them in the game center... :p
I think that is why she kept slipping up during her declaration of war on risa, not only does she sympahise with the height issue, but I bet that she see a bit of otani is the way risa acts.

I'm really really glad they didn't drag out the two faced mimi situation as some other stories have done. It was really funny especially the animation, but I think it would have really gotten old quick.

Get mimi arc, great resolution.

Otani is a lucky midget, walking arm in arm with two model like girls. Hey all he needed was a fur coat and some bling and he could have been a pimp :p



Please pass my thanks to the crew ReAn :)

outcast_within
2007-08-23, 07:21
lets hit eachother in real life as they do in love com :)

lol@otani pimp idea

mdauben
2007-08-23, 09:03
I just finished watching episode 20 (kudos to K-S for getting this one out so quickly!). I might say it was a bit of a let down, but in a way that is just becuase the last two episodes were so good.

I was supprised that Mimi turned out to be so much of a non-threat to the releationship between Risa and Otani. In fact, she really did little more than help Risa and Otani see each other's feelings a bit more clearly. In the end, this little episode just strengthend the "All Hanshin Kyojin". :D I admit the preview has me interested. I was kind of expecting something like this from the shots in the ED of Otani studying (for college?) and Risa wearing what looks like a shop apron (for trade school?), but it will be interesting to see how this effects their still-new relationship. ;)

kira-sama
2007-08-23, 09:24
just watched episode 19
OMG!!! mimi showed up!!!!
like this episode especially when risa said so many times that she likes otani
until all people at stadium watched them ^_^

TigerII
2007-08-23, 10:25
Wow, 20 was a good episode. But with 6 more, I feel something bad is gonna happen.

rarukyu
2007-08-23, 12:03
ahh! mimi chan!! aw this episode was awesome! but the ending preview wants me to see what else is up in stored! quite an episode 20 it is! thanks KS!!!! keep up the wonderful work!

bruno321
2007-08-23, 12:06
Episode 20 was really nice, and funny.

I thought Mimi would only mean more stupid misunderstandings and fights between Otani and Koizumi, but it didn't. It was the other way around, actually: she made them closer.

Anyway, I agree with TigerII. Surely more things are going to get in their way.

ReAn
2007-08-23, 12:08
Wow, 20 was a good episode. But with 6 more, I feel something bad is gonna happen.

Yep, and...

... his name is Kazuki Kohori

rarukyu
2007-08-23, 12:24
:O!!!!! kazuki?! oh boy i cna't wait!!!! this series is just getting to me haha.

ReAn
2007-08-23, 12:44
:O!!!!! kazuki?! oh boy i cna't wait!!!! this series is just getting to me haha.

He's actually in the opening, look for a boy with black hair and a red splotch.

TigerII
2007-08-23, 13:04
Yes, but I mean that I don't think they will end up together. When she said she wanted to be with him forever, I think that just sealed their fate as a couple.

I mean at the very least, whe highschool is over, what then? Unless they go to the same college, I doubt they would stay together. long distance relationships don't usually work.

grey_moon
2007-08-23, 13:34
I mean at the very least, whe highschool is over, what then? Unless they go to the same college, I doubt they would stay together. long distance relationships don't usually work.

I can understand that feeling, after my fiance graduated from her masters she had to move over to Taiwan and I was in the UK and we only got to see each other once a year for over 4 years :(

I wonder will Risa go to uni so she can be with Otani?

desi09
2007-08-23, 14:20
Ah! I had a feeling that the future would come up... Well, I hope they get through it. What will Risa do if she's not going to college?

Risaa
2007-08-23, 14:36
Here's a link to a piece of fanart I really liked:

http://tifilou.deviantart.com/art/love-com-walk-63052853

I'm not so much a fan of her other stuff, but this one was very unique and cute. :)

Shiroth
2007-08-23, 16:31
If you think about it, the whole Mimi arc was needed right after they finally got together --- i like to look at it that way, and rather enjoyed this episode. I didn't even notice Mimi was that tall in the last episode...

As for the preview --- yeah, seen it coming. Shall be good.

Jobrill
2007-08-23, 16:41
I honestly think Episode 20, despite the copious lack of Nobu-chan going Medieval on anyone

Was perhaps my favorite episode yet.

I love that, despite the fact that Risa and A-Chan are now officially a couple, and out as such to everyone, there's been no sacrifice as to who they are as characters or how they act and feel. I love how awesome they both acted. Same usual foillibles and insecurities, same personalities, except now they're together and they're learning what that takes.

They really felt like they grew as a couple thanks to Mimi, who really had lessons to teach both of them, and I'm so glad Otani's finally proving that he's not the idiot
people sometimes say he is. I cheered so loud when he kissed her on the steps in the end!

Amalia
2007-08-23, 17:53
i think that Risa and Otani are made for each other. It wa such a cute and romantic episode...Especially the end.

Bonta Kun
2007-08-23, 19:24
I honestly think Episode 20, despite the copious lack of Nobu-chan going Medieval on anyone


yep Demon Eyes Nobu-chan is overdue

20 was great, the standard for this show I think is just top notch. Has kept me exicted about it from the start and onwards. Only other shows that have done that for me so far are FMP and Claymore. Cna't wait to see whats to come!!!

Ashlotte
2007-08-23, 20:02
Oh how do I love this show...Such a natural couple thats perfect in all its imperfections. :heh:

Mimi proved to be a great catalyst for pushing them forward and I really hope she becomes friends with risa...Despite mimi trying her best to intimidate and hate risa they really do get along incredibly well.

Oh and mimi's seiyuu was freaking awesome...Couldn't get enough of her voice when she was talking normal or psycho. :p

mdauben
2007-08-23, 20:13
Yes, but I mean that I don't think they will end up together. When she said she wanted to be with him forever, I think that just sealed their fate as a couple.
WARNING: PURE SPECULATION AHEAD!

Depite any real-life problems with long distance relationships, at this point I honestly can't imagine this series ending with Otani and Risa not together. The whole series up to this point has been a gradual build up of that releationship, and if it were to end with them breaking up again, it would just be too sad for words. Given how hard Risa has worked, and how strong their releationship already seems to be, there is just no way they could be broken up at this point without it being a really bad ending. :(

Now, given that Otani's already adimtted that he loves her, there will need something for the climax of the series, but I would imagine it is going to be some sort of near break-up, that is resolved in the end in time for a final, end-of-series kiss. :D

In any case, going to a different school does not necessarily mean moving away. The two of them seem to live in a big enough city that there has to be at least one or two colleges there. ;)

TigerII
2007-08-23, 20:55
Yes, I would hate an ending like that. But these days more and more works of media(Not just anime) have decided to take the tragic/sad ending, just because happy are cliche. I have one thing to say to that. F*** those who hate happy endings. I want them to end up together, it is I just have my doubts. Plus the last few panels of the manga really have me confused. I have been wondering about this for months now, and really do now since the show has followed the manga closely.

grey_moon
2007-08-23, 23:44
I cheered so loud when he kissed her on the steps in the end!


I burst out laughing at Risa's comment on him standing on the higher step. Trust Risa to ruin the romantic mode, but she wouldn't be her if she didn't.

I can understand Otani's choice in Risa, going out with someone can be really hard work especially if you need to act differently then you normally do. With her he can be normal and vice versa.

If he went out with Mimi I wonder how long she would have lasted before she cracked? If she didn't crack he would have a bit of a surprise after they got married :D

outcast_within
2007-08-24, 01:07
plz don't talk about the ending if you are reading the manga without using spoiler tags
Even if almost nothing gets spoilered.

Major1138
2007-08-24, 01:37
I'd have to agree that I'd be very surprised if Risa and Otani aren't together at the end. With 6 episodes left, I'm sure there will be a few more obstacles in their way (the end of episode 20 suggests what one what of them will be), but I think when all is said and done they'll pull through in the end. It just wouldn't match the tone of the previous episodes if the final one ended with them no longer a couple.

Some shows/mangas can create that sense of uncertainty, but I honestly can't think of one right now that does it well.

For me, Kare Kano (the manga) came close, but you still sort of knew it would all work out in the end. Other series you know the leads will be together until the end. Ah! My Goddess and Ai Yori Aoshi come to mind. No matter what happens, there's no way they can make me believe for a second that that Keiichi and Belldandy or Kaoru and Aoi won't end up together. Lovely Complex isn't quite as obvious as those last two, but it's pretty hard to see an unhappy ending to the series.

grey_moon
2007-08-24, 03:50
I really feel there is so many good and funny things for the writers to show us about them in their relationship, instead of them to concentrate on putting us through the angst grinder. The mimi arc I thought was well done, it was short and sweet, but more importantly it was funny. It would be nice to watch a show where after the struggles of getting it together we can actually see them having fun. Damn it Risa deserves it and I am pretty sure the goddess of truth, light and beauty aka nobu would agree with me :)

outcast_within
2007-08-24, 03:56
I'd have to agree that I'd be very surprised if Risa and Otani aren't together at the end. With 6 episodes left, I'm sure there will be a few more obstacles in their way (the end of episode 20 suggests what one what of them will be)

1. the different schools ep
2. the neighbour boy of risa ep
3 the childhood trauma ep
4 the false alarm pregnancy ep
5 the coma ep
6 the awaken ep

Slice of Life
2007-08-24, 04:40
1. the different schools ep
2. the neighbour boy of risa ep
3 the childhood trauma ep
4 the false alarm pregnancy ep
5 the coma ep
6 the awaken ep

ROFL. They better don't dare.

What really will happen is that Risa will learn that her birthday present is actually a magical pendant (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1109941&postcount=75) from the bunny dimension, and that she will have to fight together with her cute little mascot At-chan against the Dark Lord Haruka and his crossdressing minion to protect all the bunny love in our world. That is roughly the story of eps. 27 to 1xx.

Oops, was that a spoiler?

grey_moon
2007-08-24, 04:55
Risa as a mahou shojo..... errrr for some reason the dreaded sailor moon costumes pop into my mind...

Sorrow-K
2007-08-24, 07:55
Ep 20

Great episode (but haven't most of them been, so far). As per usual, nothing new or original in that, but the execution is so fun and enjoyable and the jokes hit the mark more often than not that it's almost impossible to berate. In fact, on that note, this was one of the funniest eps in the entire series. I always think it's a good indication of a really outstanding comedy if it's still funny this far into the series, since it's so rare for comedy in anime to stay fresh and appealing after 13 or so eps. Lovely Complex really hasn't put many steps wrong in that respect, as well as in the romance stakes where it's clearly shining. This really is a surprisingly impressive series.

Polaryzed_123
2007-08-24, 08:55
That episode was made of win. I also liked that Mimi's arc was short and sweet.

And for those speculating on a bad end, my response is: wtf? are you nutz? (not hatin', just dumbfounded)

With such a sweet and lighthearted rom/com to all of a sudden go crazy and have a bad end would be tragic in itself. With all the slow buildup to the relationship it would be retarded to leave the end of the series on a breakup. I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but that would make this series go straight to the freakin' bottom. I agree with TigerII in that I WANT to see happy endings. The only sad endings that I like are ones that are bittersweet. Where its sad, but it really is for the best. If they make this series have a bad end i will be flaming pissed! Not even Nobu-chan could top me!

ReAn
2007-08-24, 09:09
ROFL. They better don't dare.

What really will happen is that Risa will learn that her birthday present is actually a magical pendant (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1109941&postcount=75) from the bunny dimension, and that she will have to fight together with her cute little mascot At-chan against the Dark Lord Haruka and his crossdressing minion to protect all the bunny love in our world. That is roughly the story of eps. 27 to 1xx.

Oops, was that a spoiler?

As long as they don't team up with Studio Pierrot for bugetary reasons and drag it out to 200+ episodes with filler... im cool with anything.

Bonta Kun
2007-08-24, 09:50
while Demon Eyes Nobu-chan showing up every so often as the old friend turned to the dark side, must defeat and bring back to the lightside.

oh and then theres Mimi the tall, beautiful, wicked witch of the west to deal with.......ooh they got a tough trip ahead of em:D

aliensporebomb
2007-08-24, 22:50
In Ep 20 - Did anyone else love the:


Insane gibberish Risa and Otani jabbered back and forth to each other
in the arcade?

They're not only made for each other, they invented their own weird
screeching jibbering language!



Brilliant! And Mimi's stunned reaction was....priceless.

Gaara133
2007-08-24, 23:24
This show is awesome, it continues to impress me. I didn't read any of the spoilers that will happen in the future, I want to know when it happens!!!!:)

Amalia
2007-08-25, 03:03
In Ep 20 - Did anyone else love the:


Insane gibberish Risa and Otani jabbered back and forth to each other
in the arcade?

They're not only made for each other, they invented their own weird
screeching jibbering language!



Brilliant! And Mimi's stunned reaction was....priceless.

Oh YES! I totally, 100% loved that part...that's why I said that they are made for each other. Because they do not need to pretend that they are sth else in front of the other one. They can be themselves and feel comfortable with that.:p

kira-sama
2007-08-25, 07:52
Oh YES! I totally, 100% loved that part...that's why I said that they are made for each other. Because they do not need to pretend that they are sth else in front of the other one. They can be themselves and feel comfortable with that.:p

agree with you
they no need to be their another self "like mimi said it's tired to be another self with the man you like"
but they are so funny when their conversation like monkey "i think"

and i like mimi she's so funny

nanafan
2007-08-25, 09:20
those episodes were great. i laughed alot with them at the arcade. worried about what was said at the end...

Guido
2007-08-25, 17:11
Episode 20 amusingly put on perspective how poor Risa felt on putting back the same shoes with Mimi admitting to like Otani but being on the defensive because she's tall like Risa and wants Otani not to reject her.

The best of the episode was Mimi's psychotic tendencies which make Sadako look like a gentle angel. The infamous violin rendition made her shots amusingly creepy.

Sucker punch right onto her face. Why crazily I laughed everytime that Mimi went apeshit on Risa.:heh:

At the end, it is a choice to fight hard and strive to become Otani's girlfriend among the two of them. Of course, hardly anyone of us would realize if Otani does or not really likes Risa while still calling her idiot and gross.:p

aliensporebomb
2007-08-25, 18:22
snip...

The best of the episode was Mimi's psychotic tendencies which make Sadako look like a gentle angel. The infamous violin rendition made her shots amusingly creepy.


Sucker punch right onto her face. Why crazily I laughed everytime that Mimi went apeshit on Risa.:heh:




I thought I'd tuned into a Higurashi episode for a moment. Awesome.

Black_Rose
2007-08-26, 10:55
I really enjoyed the anime it was really funny to me.But i didnt knoe ty was by shojo beat!!! I never herd of it while i was reading the magzienes to it but i never got to check out the manga.....thats probly why...

philmein
2007-08-26, 14:39
I;m assuming the manga goes past 24 episodes, correct? Not to mention, it's not even done..

TigerII
2007-08-26, 14:41
Yes the manga is done. Ended this year at chapter 60 something.

Black_Rose
2007-08-26, 17:19
I think its sooo cute that Otani is sooo short but hes still on the basket ball team!!!!lol...Oh yea this anime made me realize that its ok for me to date short dudes...well im not so tall im well i guse for my age im about 5'4 or 5'5 and i just got into high school and theres still juniors that im taller than!Plus id go out with Otani any time....

psycho bolt
2007-08-27, 18:49
Hmm I would have never imagine me watching a romance comedy anime. First time for me. I watched like all 20 episodes in 2 days, arg I think I need some rest. And cheers for Risa and Otami, they are getting along quite nicely! BTW, I think it will be hard to tell if they will still be together in the future. I mean, relationships sometimes get complicated after HS. Hmm why do I have a feeling theres no hope for their future?

outcast_within
2007-08-28, 02:13
I think its sooo cute that Otani is sooo short but hes still on the basket ball team!!!!lol...Oh yea this anime made me realize that its ok for me to date short dudes...well im not so tall im well i guse for my age im about 5'4 or 5'5 and i just got into high school and theres still juniors that im taller than!Plus id go out with Otani any time....

go make a midget happy :)

ReAn
2007-08-28, 09:43
I;m assuming the manga goes past 24 episodes, correct? Not to mention, it's not even done..

From what we hear the show is slated for 24 or 26 episodes, although an official number still has not been released.

kira_lacusXX
2007-08-28, 11:53
Any spoilers on episode 21 ? Did anyone watch it yet ? The preview was so confusing, but I did laugh at Koizumi's quiet friend's (She hasn't been in the a lot so I completely forgot her name) reaction in the background to when her boyfriend (ditto with his name too) was dressed as a girl or something. Yeah.. cracked me up for a while.

Oh and episode 20 was pure love. The ending was amazing (Otani deliberately standing on the higher steps, ahahaha good one.) and their own little gibberish language was sweet. I love this anime so much. Every episode is great.

Katapan
2007-08-28, 12:57
Any spoilers on episode 21 ? Did anyone watch it yet ?

There was no episode this week, and there won't be one next week either - this means episode 21 won't air before September 8th, unfortunately. :(

From what we hear the show is slated for 24 or 26 episodes, although an official number still has not been released.

24 episodes is apparently very likely. While I can't say for sure that it'll be that way, that's what the air dates seem to be suggesting. I won't use the earliest broadcast (on TBS) to back up what I'm saying because it seems uncertain at this point, but let's see the MBS one: episode 24 apparently airs on Oct. 6th (http://cal.syoboi.jp/?date=2007/10/06), then CLANNAD is taking over the timeslot one week later, on Oct. 13th (http://cal.syoboi.jp/?date=2007/10/13), for its first episode.

Once again, this is not official, Syoboi has proven to be wrong a few times and you can never exclude other possibilities, so don't hate me if there are 25 or 26 episodes in the end! (though I think most of people would be happy if I was wrong, as long as it means more LC ;)). Maybe someone has already found a source for an official number, that'd help.

mdauben
2007-08-28, 16:27
There was no episode this week, and there won't be one next week either - this means episode 21 won't air before September 8th, unfortunately. :(
Two weeks with no Risa? So sad.... :(

Zennifa
2007-08-28, 22:42
Aww no ep.21 until sept 8th :( crappy. This anime is adorable <333

Gaara133
2007-08-29, 00:05
September 8th!?! Aww man what am I suppose to do for a week and a half? I guess I could finish GTO and Marmalade Boy...

Polaryzed_123
2007-08-29, 06:46
What is it with these 2 week breaks? There's at least one or 2 other current series that I'm watching that are taking 2 week breaks. Is this something that's common this time of year/season? I've always been a "wait til the whole series is subbed" before I watched things. This is the first year that I'm keeping up with current shows. Breaks suck. I need my LC fix man! Just one hit!

Katapan
2007-08-29, 08:04
What is it with these 2 week breaks? There's at least one or 2 other current series that I'm watching that are taking 2 week breaks. Is this something that's common this time of year/season? I've always been a "wait til the whole series is subbed" before I watched things. This is the first year that I'm keeping up with current shows. Breaks suck. I need my LC fix man! Just one hit!

I think we can blame sport events for this. I've just checked the TBS programs for next Saturday (LC should have normally aired at 5:30pm), and the whole schedule has been changed on that day. The cause? World Championships in Athletics Osaka 2007. They're showing them at around 6:30pm, until late at night, which made some of the programs move earlier. LC wasn't one of these shows, it was just skipped.

Ah well, at least it's 'only' a two week break. I've been through a whole month without Kekkaishi, and I think that's what's happening to Saiunkoku Monogatari (and almost Dennou Coil) on NHK right now because of baseball. Evil breaks...

mdauben
2007-08-29, 08:21
I think we can blame sport events for this.
That's one reason why I''ve always hates sports... :mad:

(That's also why I usually wait until the whole series is subbed, but L★C is like that old potato chip comercial, I couldn't stop after just one... :p)

TigerII
2007-08-29, 08:22
O come on. I love sports.

mdauben
2007-08-29, 08:26
O come on. I love sports.
I guess I should have been more specific in that I hate sports on TV. I enjoy doing sports, but I just think it's pretty silly to sit and watch them. :rolleyes:

TigerII
2007-08-29, 08:33
Eh, I like to watch sports...

ReAn
2007-08-29, 08:41
I think we can blame sport events for this. I've just checked the TBS programs for next Saturday (LC should have normally aired at 5:30pm), and the whole schedule has been changed on that day. The cause? World Championships in Athletics Osaka 2007. They're showing them at around 6:30pm, until late at night, which made some of the programs move earlier. LC wasn't one of these shows, it was just skipped.

Ah well, at least it's 'only' a two week break. I've been through a whole month without Kekkaishi, and I think that's what's happening to Saiunkoku Monogatari (and almost Dennou Coil) on NHK right now because of baseball. Evil breaks...

Or multiple months.... *cough*Geass*hack*wheeze*

See, breaks happen like this in north american TV for different reasons....

"Hey guys, let's stretch 26 episodes out over 4/5ths of a year. Why? The hype will boost merchandise sales, and we can make tonnes of money off of the interviews and 'specials' made up of old clips that we can shove out easily to fill the 'void'..."

Aka Heroes.

At least in japan there's a reason... a bad reason, but a reason no less...

O come on. I love sports.

Sports are the devil, i wish the pain of a 1000 angry konata's on you!

Polaryzed_123
2007-08-29, 08:43
I see. That makes sense now. I can understand the whole sporting events trump anime thing now, but it still stinks. :( Well, I guess this just gives me a chance to catch up on older series that I haven't finished yet. (always look for the silver lining)

Slice of Life
2007-08-29, 08:55
I hate doing sports. And watching sports. And watching sports anime.

Katapan's arguments sound very ... sound. So it looks like 24 epsiodes.

World Championships in Athletics Osaka 2007

How ironic. The tragedy has been foreshadowed.

TigerII
2007-08-29, 10:01
Bah on all of you!

mdauben
2007-08-29, 11:38
Or multiple months.... *cough*Geass*hack*wheeze*
For me, that little gimick just backfired. Admittely I my enthusiasm for CG was starting to wane in the second half of the series, but that looooong wait for the last two episodes was the final nail in the coffin of CG to me as by the time it came out I had dropped the series. :p

On the other hand, my love for L★C will undoubtedly weather a 2-week hiatus. ;)

Risaa
2007-08-29, 13:53
Actually I'm kind of glad for this break - gives me a chance to catch up. [*dodges thrown bricks*] These past two seasons have been crazy... I'm watching more series this year than I ever have in any other year.

Gaara133
2007-08-29, 14:17
Actually I'm kind of glad for this break - gives me a chance to catch up. [*dodges thrown bricks*] These past two seasons have been crazy... I'm watching more series this year than I ever have in any other year.


I agree I've seen a ton of series so far this year I just gotta keep burnin them to dvd's though otherwise my computer will get full >.<

mdauben
2007-08-29, 14:43
I agree I've seen a ton of series so far this year I just gotta keep burnin them to dvd's though otherwise my computer will get full >.<
True, it does seem like there were a lot of worthwhile series this year. I usually either delete or burn to DVD any series after I finish it, but right now my HD is still almost full just of inclomplete Spring and Summer shows I am downloading to watch. :uhoh:

TigerII
2007-08-29, 14:59
Heh, I have never watched a show twice. No used space for me.

Slice of Life
2007-08-29, 16:27
Actually I'm kind of glad for this break - gives me a chance to catch up. [*dodges thrown bricks*] These past two seasons have been crazy... I'm watching more series this year than I ever have in any other year.

i hear you there. 2007 has been a vintage year so far. I'm almost hoping for less good autumn season. >.<

hi no ken Jebus
2007-09-08, 10:07
Given the episode title I was expecting more on koizumi and ohtani but it was mostly about nobu and nakao. With Nobu moving to hokkaido with her grandmother they choose to go the long distance relationship route. Nakao certainly looked like he was fine with it but far from it:heh:. Nakao's Harem was the highlight of the episode for me:heh: too bad that icepick to the ear inducing "seiko" wasn't included. It did reflect on the inevitable for koizumi and ohtani since he wants to go to college and become a teacher. Overall nice episode and with the new character introduced in the end looks like one more hurdle for koizumi and ohtani before the end.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2649/lc21gp6.th.jpg (http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=lc21gp6.jpg)

kira-sama
2007-09-09, 03:42
ah!!! that boy who felt in love with koizumi has already show up

outcast_within
2007-09-10, 02:56
oh right the next episode is about choosing different schools...
hope it won't be tearing them apart

mdauben
2007-09-10, 09:21
Anyone heard from ReAn lately? Now that the series has started up again, I kind of miss the regular updates from our KissSub insider. ;)

Polaryzed_123
2007-09-10, 10:06
Anyone heard from ReAn lately? Now that the series has started up again, I kind of miss the regular updates from our KissSub insider. ;)Yeah. I have. He went back to school. I don't know about any KissSub news, but he's on a different schedule now, so I haven't talked to him as much lately. I'm sure it'll be business as usual soon.

TigerII
2007-09-10, 10:12
Kissub site said 21 out in a few days.

ReAn
2007-09-10, 16:30
Anyone heard from ReAn lately? Now that the series has started up again, I kind of miss the regular updates from our KissSub insider. ;)

Glad to know people still think of me. Sorry for the abscense (sp?) I just started up my 5th (and hopefully final) year at uni, so things have been messed up.

Yeah. I have. He went back to school. I don't know about any KissSub news, but he's on a different schedule now, so I haven't talked to him as much lately. I'm sure it'll be business as usual soon.

Well I usually am asleep till you get home from work ~_^

Kissub site said 21 out in a few days.

Should be, We've got the raw, and it's being processed, not sure where it is and I havent been asked to time it yet...

outcast_within
2007-09-12, 04:53
So has 22 also already been aired/did kiss-sub also obtained that raw?

I'm dreaming of a double feature for this saturday ^_^
that would be sweet.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j92/outcast_within/vlcsnap-52186.png

big milk bottle for small otani and also a pretty decent poster. they drew in the background

xris
2007-09-12, 04:54
Can I remind everyone that this thread is for the discussion of Lovely Complex. Please keep future posts on-topic otherwise they will suffer the fate of recent posts that have been deleted.

P.S. Discusion about the raws and when the next episode will be fansubbed is also considered off-topic. Fansubs updates are OK but please keep the "when will be be ready/fansubbed/released" comments to a minimum.

Polaryzed_123
2007-09-12, 08:08
So....how bout that Otani and Risa? ....uuuhhhhh.....yeah. Feels kinda awkward in here now... So only 4-5'ish eps left? I'm SO hoping for a good end, as predictable as it may be. But I'd like a fairy tale-like ending to quench my sappy romantic side. Especially after all the hard work that was put into the relationship. Manga readers: do NOT spoil it for us!

TigerII
2007-09-12, 08:14
Otani becomes a mecha pilot and defeats the invading PLA while Risa is a magical catgirl who fights vampires. They both go off to the wars then twenty years later reunite and have a merman child.





Ooops.

On a side note, I want a happy ending too.

nanafan
2007-09-13, 12:30
i want a happy ending too, they deserve it since they went throught so much together.

psycho bolt
2007-09-13, 15:48
Wah, we have to wait till Saturday to watch. T_T

Looking forward to seeing Risa and Otani get into a good mood. :p

FuzzyWuzzy
2007-09-14, 09:31
I don't know if they will have a happy ending or a sad one.
But they will definitely have sex before the anime ends.

TigerII
2007-09-14, 10:05
LOL. That was completely random and hilarious.

Sinestra
2007-09-14, 10:11
I don't know if they will have a happy ending or a sad one.
But they will definitely have sex before the anime ends.

Cant wait to see things get rolling again, I need some happiness after the disaster know as School Days. Everyone needs lovin and im sorry but Risa needs some bad and so does Otani maybe it will help with his grumpiness.i just had a funny thought. Otani was always concerned about kissing her because he's short. I dont even want to fathom how he would feel getting more intimate.

TigerII
2007-09-14, 10:42
That doesn't really matter. Most likely they will (If they do) have sex in the missionary position. Height has nothing to do with that since they would both be laying down so he could adjust his position. Plus the lights would most likely be out so they both could be less embarrassed. But I doubt they would do it. This show is...I just don't see that happening.

Vexx
2007-09-14, 11:10
too much clinical sharing there, eh? :)

TigerII
2007-09-14, 13:00
I did it with as much class as possible !

Sinestra
2007-09-14, 15:36
That doesn't really matter. Most likely they will (If they do) have sex in the missionary position. Height has nothing to do with that since they would both be laying down so he could adjust his position. Plus the lights would most likely be out so they both could be less embarrassed. But I doubt they would do it. This show is...I just don't see that happening.
Well without going into the details im sure Otani is not as thoughtful as you are. You know how his mind works he would think of worse possible action first, look how apperhension he had over kissing her. No add SEX to the equation and times that by 50 and you get one nervous of a wreck Otani. So what i wrote is more about what Otani would think if the situation ever came up not the act its self
too much clinical sharing there, eh? :)

Yes it was but that is not what i aiming for:D

Vexx
2007-09-14, 17:44
Sorry, I need to label my comments better. That "clinical tmi" was directed at Tiger's comment.

yura`
2007-09-16, 09:39
Omg. I come back to the forums after a hiatus, to this?!

Lol. :p

desi09
2007-09-16, 10:56
Just watched LoveCom 21, and it was great!!! I loved how they devoted this episode to Nobu and Nakao-chi. piece her ears so she can wear the earrings Nakao-chi gave her. But at the end you can see that she's wearing the heart-shaped earings. I hope that they can maintain a good long distance relationship.
Like always, can't wait for the next episode!

outcast_within
2007-09-16, 11:03
I don't know if they will have a happy ending or a sad one.
But they will definitely have sex before the anime ends.

amen :P

maybe for an ova

starry_sky45
2007-09-16, 14:16
I just started watching the series, I like it a lot. Its different from what I expected. Really funny, I love it! :)

Solafighter
2007-09-16, 14:54
Im looking forward to see the episode 21 with english subs. :)

ReAn
2007-09-17, 13:58
Im looking forward to see the episode 21 with english subs. :)

Kiss-Sub released it this morning.

http://www.kiss-sub.org/ For more Details.


P.S. My Distro is up and active, get em while they're hot!

psycho bolt
2007-09-17, 14:01
Good work.

TigerII
2007-09-17, 15:01
Yay ReAn delivers!

psycho bolt
2007-09-17, 15:05
Good quality sub as always.

Reapers Apple
2007-09-17, 15:29
Loading it now and I'm so happy it's out <3
I so love Love Com!!
Kiss Subs ist great ;D

ReAn
2007-09-17, 17:52
Yay ReAn delivers!

Too bad i didn't get to time it, :( Still no script for 22 so I imagine I wont be timing that one either, I'll try to keep everyone up to date.

outcast_within
2007-09-17, 18:07
how does your subbing group work

Guido
2007-09-17, 18:41
Heavens, it's been about 3 to 4 weeks since I saw an episode to Lovely Complex and feeling dragged since the good, ol' series is about to end next week assuming it will run for twenty-six episodes.

Well, I cannot blame the lover's couples to be agitated or depressed about their post-graduation life.

It was great to see that Nakao and Nobuko a.k.a. Nobu-chan got their whole screentime for this episode.

Nobu and Nakao are one of my most favorite couples of the show and the cheery, easygoers among the whole six party.

The hurdles would be extremely difficult for those two to cross over, as they have settled to keep their relationship long-distance but let us remember that those two turtle doves have bonded since their first meeting.

They are so full of love toward each other, that it was ok for them to be selfish and get worried that they won't be seeing each other for the time being.

But true couples always stay in touch and communicate to each other without secrets and regrets. Those two are going to make it, as long as they confide that they can persevere through patience.


What I'm worrying about is the brand-new, short guy in town. And by looks of the preview.....

another obstacle is going to manifest between Risa and Otani with him being the hurt most or misunderstanding as always.

Vexx
2007-09-17, 19:58
Many thanks to our subbing martyrs ... now I can watch more of the one of the better romantic comedies in anime I've laid eyes on. :)

psycho bolt
2007-09-17, 20:23
Sniff sniff, I hope we see Noba-chan again. Ah fun times they had with her.

mdauben
2007-09-17, 20:30
Having a week off from LC was rough, but now I have my fix again. Great work, KissSub! :D

Quite an emotional episode this week, too! :(
I was rather supprised to see someone besides Risa on that emotional rollercoaster for a change! In a lot of ways, I think Nakao reminds me of myself the most out of the cast, so I could really relate to what he was going through. Sniff. I hope everything works out for him and Nobu-chan.
That trailer for next week has me wondering, too. With only a few more episodes left, and the situation with Otani possibly going away to college still to resolve, I was kind of supprised they would introduce a new rival at this late date. I can't wait to see exactly what happens between him, Risa and Otani, now. :confused:

Gaara133
2007-09-17, 22:22
Wow that kid at the end must be scary. Did you hear that noise?!?! Sounded like a sheep was getting slaughtered! WTF! GREEEAAAT Episode though!!!

Gaara133
2007-09-17, 22:56
Many thanks to our subbing martyrs ... now I can watch more of the one of the better romantic comedies in anime I've laid eyes on. :)

better? Not best? Examples...

Vexx
2007-09-18, 02:05
Vexx don't do "best evar" ...... other excellent romantic comedies include such things as Mahoraba: Heartful Days, REC, and Tsukuyomi Moon Phase ...... YMMV, of course.

Lov*Com is memorable for the Kansai antics, the characterizations and quirky characters, and actually carrying on past the confession.

outcast_within
2007-09-18, 04:20
the kid wil just bring a misunderstanding i feel.
you know one of those scenes where their heads bump but if you look at it from a different perspective it will look like a kiss

Solafighter
2007-09-18, 07:09
Vexx don't do "best evar" ...... other excellent romantic comedies include such things as Mahoraba: Heartful Days, REC, ....


Waah! I love REC. :)

Shiroth
2007-09-18, 08:25
I've always loved Nakao-chi's simpleness on this series, and wasn't expected so much hardcore drama involving him and Nobu, great stuff.

Nakao-chi and his three girlfriends was a wonderful scene.

ReAn
2007-09-18, 09:52
how does your subbing group work


http://images.reanmachine.com/subbing-flow.png


Kiss-Sub facilitates the White Boxes, and this is more of an outline, than an exact rendition.

Heavens, it's been about 3 to 4 weeks since I saw an episode to Lovely Complex and feeling dragged since the good, ol' series is about to end next week assuming it will run for twenty-six episodes.


Blame sports, and if you watch Lucky*Star, you'll have a greater appreciation for that show :o

Vexx don't do "best evar" ...... other excellent romantic comedies include such things as Mahoraba: Heartful Days, REC, and Tsukuyomi Moon Phase ...... YMMV, of course.

Lov*Com is memorable for the Kansai antics, the characterizations and quirky characters, and actually carrying on past the confession.

Vexx also speaks in the 3rd person. But yes, i'd agree, i dont do "best ever" either, but definately one of the top.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Love*Com Update ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ep 22, Timing (Me!) in my spare @ uni, woot.

Sinestra
2007-09-18, 09:53
I've always loved Nakao-chi's simpleness on this series, and wasn't expected so much hardcore drama involving him and Nobu, great stuff.

Nakao-chi and his three girlfriends was a wonderful scene.

Agreed i have always liked Nakao. I also did not expect so much drama didnt see coming at all. But given those 2 im not worried as they are so in love im sure they could make a long distance relationship work. Nobu and Nobu have to be one my favorites couples in anime in a while. I mean even her family likes him thats saying a lot.

Otani and Risa only recently started dating and their relationship has not had time to mature. Im really curious about this new kid and it seems like some type of misunderstanding is about to arise. Otani looked hella pissed in the preview but im sure it will just be a misunderstanding. Thank god the LC is back just this one episode is already starting to get ride of School Days blues (those who frequent that forum know my position)

Kudos to whom ever brought up REC i love that series i wish there was more.:D

Vexx
2007-09-18, 10:17
I was having a "Homey the Clown" moment in the third person :) but unless Lov*Com manages to trainwreck in the last few seconds, it'll end up in my top handful of romantic comedies (anime or otherwise).

Sinestra
2007-09-18, 10:46
I was having a "Homey the Clown" moment in the third person :) but unless Lov*Com manages to trainwreck in the last few seconds, it'll end up in my top handful of romantic comedies (anime or otherwise).

Im in the same boat Vexx i really have a handful of romantic comedies that i love with no question. If Lov Com continues on this good route it will be added for sure. But i will need to find a new one once this one ends. I always have to have at 1 romance series going. Im looking forward to Clannad but then again who isnt?

ReAn
2007-09-18, 11:34
Ok, this is funny as hell, im timing ep 22 without watching ep 21, but all i can say is:

DANGER! DANGER! DANGER Will Robinson! *Insert flailing arms*

"Is your short-fetish calling out to you?"

Risaa
2007-09-18, 12:45
http://images.reanmachine.com/subbing-flow.png
O_o Wow, thanks for the chart. People have told me the subbing process many times, but it doesn't quite sink in until I have a picture.
I was having a "Homey the Clown" moment in the third person :) Nostalgia!

//goes back to living under my rock.

Polaryzed_123
2007-09-18, 12:56
Like Chicken Soup, a good Romance Comedy is good for the soul. Always keep one on hand. :)

Ep 21 was a nice departure from the usual Risa/Otani angst and, I thought , gave some more substance to the secondary chars. The preview for ep 22 has me worried (but not THAT much) about what's gonna happen next. I think the bigger issue is the "Otani goes to college" dilemma.

P.S. - thnx for reminding me of REC. A great little series that I loved and wished there was more of.

("Ha...ha...ha. Homey don't play that!")

ReAn
2007-09-18, 13:57
O_o Wow, thanks for the chart. People have told me the subbing process many times, but it doesn't quite sink in until I have a picture.

That's kind of why i made it oh so long ago, people keep asking how subbing works and when you explain it to them they still don't really get it, the chart helps a lot but you really get a better grip when you actually DO the subbing.

Ep 21 was a nice departure from the usual Risa/Otani angst and, I thought , gave some more substance to the secondary chars. The preview for ep 22 has me worried (but not THAT much) about what's gonna happen next. I think the bigger issue is the "Otani goes to college" dilemma.


So basically ep 22 is about otani getting prepared for collage and risa/otani's troubles. With the new character Koharu-Kun we have some MAJOR added tension.

Risa picked up a job at a restaurant just outside otani's prep-school so she could walk home w/ otani and generally be near him. Otani's high workload and stress are causing him to be overly cold to risa and snappy.

Koharu-Kun is short guy (who loves umibozu) who works with risa, it's obvious to see what's happening here, even nobu points out that Koharu is the "Next Target" for risa's short-boy-fetish.

Basically (im not done timing it, so this is speculation), im guessing that risa/otani are growing apart because of the problem, koharu is just the WRONG thing risa needs right now, reason to leave otani, but it's the RIGHT thing otani needs, cuz he needs a scare to realize he can't treat risa like crap and even though he's busy and stressed he should turn to risa for comfort & help instead of a cheap way to vent his anger and frustration.

Bad otani!


For those who didn't read the spoiler, all i can say is, don't expect much from otani.

~~~ Edit: ~~~

http://images.reanmachine.com/lol-spoiler.JPG
Koharu tried to steal a kiss from the sleepy koizumi and OTANI SAW THROUGH THE WINDOW!!!.

TigerII
2007-09-18, 14:45
O snaps!

I didn't think this would end with them anyways.

Sinestra
2007-09-18, 15:02
I still have hope nothing gives a stupid guy clarity like the chance of losing to some other guy. Plus i cant see Risa boy hopping she had plenty of oppertunities to do so but kept chasing Otani. I think it will end with them together it must or im grabbing my flamming pitch fork yet again.

*Sigh*:p this would be the second time in 2 monthes i would have to pitchfork some anime writers and cleaning up afterwards is just a pain.


OtanixRisa all the way to the end!!!!!!!!

ReAn
2007-09-18, 15:24
OtanixRisa all the way to the end!!!!!!!!

After watching through 22... im not too entirely sure about that anymore...

22 is a big nasty snarling cliffhanger...

Sinestra
2007-09-18, 15:36
After watching through 22... im not too entirely sure about that anymore...

22 is a big nasty snarling cliffhanger...

*Listens ReAn and aims blazing pitchfork at the nearest studio exec:D*

Vexx
2007-09-18, 16:06
Well, happily ever after or not.... it'll have been a good journey. I'll say its the mark of a good writer that some viewers are on pins and needles. :)

aliensporebomb
2007-09-18, 16:28
I was going to say how much I enjoyed 21 and its focus on Nobu-chan and Nakao-chi BUT
I saw the raw of twenty two and:



OHMYGOD!

Are you sure you want to know?



Ever see someone who is so mad they seem like they're on fire, like literally
ready to explode into a fury but that cold fury is tempered with a sadness
that transcends time or even reason so that it's not just anger but also a
melancholy that won't get fixed easily?

Yeah. Otani definately embodied that at the end of 22. He dumped her.
I imagine after being dumped previously and finding himself in this situation
he saw no other solution.

The big problem is that our heroine was napping and the new guy whose
name I can't ever get straight in my head (we'll call him "red streak" for
the purposes of this post) tried to steal a kiss from her. Bad bad bad!
Otani saw it thru the window so he didn't see the context but from his
viewing angle it looked like she may have been complicit - and wasn't
she just a little bit?

This was bad but compounding that making it worse:

Otani also saw that she went to the concert with the guy.
Very, very bad. She thought she could keep it a secret or at least quiet.

When he emerged between them, like a fiery avatar I was concerned he
might start pounding on the guy.

Well, what's done is done. Now what?
He must feel like a fool for having gotten together with her.

And she must feel terrible too.
So anyone care to figure out how many times she's cried in this series?

Sorry Risa, but you blew it this time.



I can't imagine where things will go from here.



Wow.

Risaa
2007-09-18, 19:35
After watching through 22... im not too entirely sure about that anymore...

22 is a big nasty snarling cliffhanger...
That actually makes me very happy. No, I'm not against them or anything, but I need juiciness like that to keep me happy with a romance show. XD

TigerII
2007-09-18, 19:37
Them hating each other and the show ending with them bitter?...ouch,

Polaryzed_123
2007-09-18, 19:57
OH NOES! (I looked!) Bad, Bad, finger. Why for did you clicketh that spoiler? HURRY UP WITH 22!!! (And make time go faster so that I can see 23 :) )

Major1138
2007-09-18, 22:43
Them hating each other and the show ending with them bitter?...ouch,

While that would make for an interesting ending, I just can't see this anime ending like that. Unless they pull a major swerve, it just wouldn't fit the tone of the show. Koizumi and Otani's "thing" is that they argue and bicker pretty much constantly, but it always seems to work out in the end, no matter how "bad" things seem to get - Lovely Complex is just as much a comedy as it is a romance, and those usually tend to have happy endings.

But from what I understand, in the manga, they get through this and are a couple at the end. In fact, my understanding is that they're about halfway through the story arc with the other guy already....

TigerII
2007-09-18, 23:06
I also didn't see a hate each other ending. But I can see a lighter they realize it wouldn't work ending. But I want them together ending.

Acespeedy
2007-09-19, 00:49
I don't think it's as bad as some people paint it out to be or maybe it is.

The first time when Otani sees events in front of him it was innocent and the guy never touched her, the second time, I don't understand what they are saying and perhaps it will be more clear with a translation but Risa seems to like that particular band or something and the guy happened to have tickets to it. Now what is the fault of Risa is that she didn't tell Otani about it as if she didn't care or forgot. Now these two are a new couple and mistakes are bound to happen but for the love of god, if you are going out with someone of the opposite sex besides your bf/gf, for reasons other than the sex merit, then tell them about it, they may be jealous or irritated but at least they know about it and it shows trust. This is just blatant ignorance on Risas part, as if she didn't care. At least on Otanis part and the swarms of girls after him he says....NO!!!.

In Risas defense however, I think she was just caught up in the excitement of her favourite band and meant no disrespect to Otani, idiotic as it was and is pretty much just a stupid mistake but what bothers me is that they at least got the first part of the misunderstanding resolved and then Risa just f---s it up again.....by going out with the person of the misunderstanding......uhhhhh

Obviously in the end she is broken up in tears but in the fragmented preview, she is karaokeing with the antagonist it seems....ok, I'm going to hang out with the person who made me and my Bf break up.....way to make things better, of course that may just be my misunderstanding.

Slice of Life
2007-09-19, 05:59
OK. Out of 24(?) episodes one has to be the worst. And with only 3 eps left to go it seems episode 21 will get the "honor". And here is why:

1. Nakao wants Nobu to hate him because he loves her so much? Sorry, but that's bad daily soap niveau. Up to now LoveCom managed to keep a healthy distance from such plot elements.

2. The entrance of his three "girlfriends", although funny, was highly inapproriate. LoveCom is not random comedy. Up to now, the humor hasn't been drawn from characters behaving absolutely absurd in serious situations.

3. Finally: How was the problem resolved after so much drama, actually? By saying "I luv you.", "I luv you too." In other words: not at all. I would have accepted anything. Nobu stays, Nakao follows her, even them breaking up. But not be trying to pretend that there wasn't a problem in the first place.

TigerII
2007-09-19, 08:04
Well I think they chose a long distance relationship untill they are out of university. Which is a very hard thing to do.

Polaryzed_123
2007-09-19, 09:30
^^ hard but not impossible. I was just in a wedding this past weekend for a couple that met in HS, went to different colleges hundreds of miles away from each other, then the one went to grad school hundreds of miles away. I'm not sure that I'D be able to do it. But its not something that isn't doable.

If the couple really cares for one another, which we assume Risa/Otani do, then they could do it. Just my opinion.

Slice of Life
2007-09-19, 09:51
Well I think they chose a long distance relationship untill they are out of university. Which is a very hard thing to do.

Sure. But that was already the point they were at when the whole drama started which then rushed into some illusion of a conclusion/solution.

TigerII
2007-09-19, 09:55
I didn't say impossible, I said hard. Yes it does happen sometimes. A couple is away for years then they do actually get together. But a large portion do end up seperating. As for Nakao and Nobu, they do seem close enough to get together when they get their porblems sorted out. Either he will move up there when he graduates college or she will move back if her grandmother does pass on.

psycho bolt
2007-09-19, 10:40
Well, it depends on the relationship. If the relationship is a strong one, then a couple will still be together no matter what factors come between them. But it can be possible that a relationship will weaken, especially when one no longer talks to one another. So, if you can still keep in touch you can maybe build a stronger relationship or keep the relationship intact.

Off Topic: I tried asking my friend watch to the show, but he was turned off by the different dialect. From my point of view, I didn't even notice the dialect until my friend told me. Have you guys seen some people who were turned off from this show because of its dialect?

TigerII
2007-09-19, 10:54
Lol, knowing no more than like three words in Japanese, I can't even tell dialects. Hell, all the anime shows I watch, I could watch with no sound. I read my shows..

Vexx
2007-09-19, 12:11
@psycho-bolt: Since I happen to love Kansai-ben, I grieve for you friend's lack of taste :)

Does he also avoid english shows that use British or Southern accents?

@Slice-of-Life: I'm getting what you mean. That ep is the first one that kind of felt overly 'manufactured' with a by the next commercial break resolution. It didn't *have* to be resolved in one episode.... I suspect they were taking what is a much longer arc in the manga (sorry, only up to volume 2) and condensing it to clear it off the table for the main couple's closing crisis arc.

Really a shame..... possibly an indication that this series should have gotten a Nana length treatment.

psycho bolt
2007-09-19, 12:40
@Vexx Hmm, I'm not sure. I guess he isn't used to listening Kansai-ben.

Risaa
2007-09-19, 13:28
Off Topic: I tried asking my friend watch to the show, but he was turned off by the different dialect. From my point of view, I didn't even notice the dialect until my friend told me. Have you guys seen some people who were turned off from this show because of its dialect?Really.... The dialect is what actually turned me *on* to LoveCom. ("Another romance comedy? OK... Completely in Kansai-ben!? I'm watching it!") I may not have even picked this series up at all if it weren't for the kansai-ben, as the art doesn't draw me in and that's usually what does it for me.

FuzzyWuzzy
2007-09-19, 15:14
An ending with long distance relationship won't happen. It's an ending that happened to a Romance anime similar to this one so I doubt they will copy that also. If I would guess, the ending would be like this- a romantic scene where they are both alone. They will both say something like everything will be alright in the future. They will kiss, hold hands and the anime will end and leave it at that.

Reapers Apple
2007-09-19, 16:01
I so love this show and I don't want it to end q.q
Why don't they just go on with the show, make a second season and show the lives
of Otani and Risa and them meeting new people and blah.
Mahhh I just love this show >_<
Cant believe whats happening in Episode 23... I guess it will be the most dramatic.
Oh god. Wasn't it raining in the preview XD? AWWW I will die while seeing this and cry XDD

ReAn
2007-09-20, 11:07
I so love this show and I don't want it to end q.q
Why don't they just go on with the show, make a second season and show the lives
of Otani and Risa and them meeting new people and blah.
Mahhh I just love this show >_<
Cant believe whats happening in Episode 23... I guess it will be the most dramatic.
Oh god. Wasn't it raining in the preview XD? AWWW I will die while seeing this and cry XDD

Unfortunately I don't think there's any manga to make a second season out of :o

TigerII
2007-09-20, 23:20
Wow. I just saw that episode 23 is the last(animdb). Airs in a day.

mdauben
2007-09-20, 23:28
Wow. I just saw that episode 23 is the last(animdb). Airs in a day.
No, AniDB, ANN and Wiki all list the last episode as 24 on September 29. There is even a note on the TBS & Toei Animation websites with the air time for the last episode (9/29 at 5:00 PM). ;)

TigerII
2007-09-20, 23:29
As I said, I was going with animdb. That is good. Wanted more.

Teletha
2007-09-20, 23:33
There is plenty of manga to make at a 2nd season if they wanted to, but I don't really see a reason...


future spoilers
Like mentioned before this last arc of the anime isn't actually the end of the manga. But it should be a good end, since to me the rest of the manga got a bit repetitive. I think you'll miss Otani and Risa actually growing as a couple though, which kind of sucks. I think there is one chapter of Lovely Complex Plus that is about everyone the summer after they graduate though.

About episode 21, I think Nakao and Nobu have always been cheesy and soap operay. :heh: With her darling talk and their overall outward display of emotions towards each other. Their problems weren't huge, so solving it wasn't a really big issue. The problem wasn't the distance right now, it was that neither was being very honest with themselves or to their friends about how they felt. Nobody said they solved their soon to be long distance relationship and everything is fine. But they are now fine to try to work things out and stay together. His "harem" and everything to me was funny.

TigerII
2007-09-20, 23:53
That third chapter of Lovcom plus is the most elusive thing I have ever came across. I can not find any information on it at all. I want to know what happens to them damnit!

Sorrow-K
2007-09-21, 05:18
I remember this show. This is that rom-com that's totally awesome and enjoyable even though it has no right to be.

Ep 21

Hooray for more Lov*Com, and the first ep back after the break was another good one. I really approve of Nobu and Nakao getting the focus in this ep, since, even though they've been great characters, neither have really played a great role in the plot, past Nobu acting as Risa's pillar of support. But this added a lot to both characters and, more importantly, the relationship between them. It's only now that we realize just how much they mean to each other.

Again, there's nothing totally new in this, since the whole theme of distance between love is old-hat (*cough*Shinkai*cough*) but the characters are so fun and likable and the execution is so good, and that makes it all worthwhile. But that's been pretty much my commentary on every episode.

outcast_within
2007-09-23, 13:52
the kid wil just bring a misunderstanding i feel.
you know one of those scenes where their heads bump but if you look at it from a different perspective it will look like a kiss

50/50
not just a misunderstanding but also not a kiss.
so 1 more episode where they are unhappy
and 1 more to get back.?

mdauben
2007-09-23, 14:42
I just watched episode 22 and all I can say is...
I can't believe Risa would do something so stupid! I can hardly blame Otani for dumping her after catching her a second time with that guy. With all the pressure he is already under for entrance exams, he was still thinking of her, and to find her spending time with some other guy would really hurt.

I thought resolving the potential "going away to college" problem was going to be the climactic story arc of the season, but obviously this is. It seems certain that they will resolve it, but they have me biting my nails already to find out how.Thanks again for another great episode, KissSub, I can't wait to see your next one! :)

Guido
2007-09-23, 15:42
The bomb exploded.

I am a boy, so I do not have a detailed idea of how a girl feels or would to in a relationship since I have no girlfriend, unfortunately.

But at least common sense on what regards to girls dictates, that if for whatever reason a boy has his moment of weakness and tries to take advantage of any situation in which a girl has her guard lowered, but she realizes it, then she'll either be scandalized or mad.

Risa, you're a girl, but you failed to apply that common sense.

Kohori nearly kissed you in your sleep. Fortunately, you woke up before his lips made contact with yours, but, unfortunately, you didn't snap.

You should at least had delivered him your trademark punch to let him know the hard way where is his place. However, instead you only got altered and let that incident passed away. The worst of that outcome was that Otani saw and misinterpreted as if Kohori had kissed you.

Then, you made an even dumber mistake and that was to accept Kohori's invitation to the concert.

If you had put on Otani's shoes on the same situation but with the roles reversed, you would have felt burning with mad jealousy, like he did, if Otani was invited by her former girlfriend or any other girl.

And you received the same treatment from your peers misunderstanding that you were two-timing Otani, as he received it before from the entire class when they learned that he could not realize you were in love with him.

It was golden comedy:
1. Otani heartbroken with drama that you were only after his body.:p

2. But the best was when Nobu misunderstood with horror that you've gotten a fetishism for small guys: midget fetishism.:heh:

outcast_within
2007-09-23, 15:54
risa is a bit dense like otani.

Gaara133
2007-09-23, 16:52
haahaha *chyuuuu* *oh my god* sooo funny!

psycho bolt
2007-09-23, 17:32
Oh man Otani under umbrella with that look scared the shit outta me.