CLANNAD the Movie

[VRMN]

Clannad the Movie Review (http://media.vrmnet.com/documents/clannadmoviereview.pdf)

Any adaptation of an existing work, to succeed in a new medium, must in some way be simplified. It is the nature of adaptations to alter the work in a way to better suit the changing presentation, and this should be an accepted fact by fans of the original work.

However, there is a point where one goes too far in an attempt to simplify a story in order to fit a medium which does not inherently suit it.

Such is the case with Toei Animation's film adaptation of Key/VisualArt's Clannad. Oversimplification does not begin to describe how Toei attempted to shove a visual novel that can take upwards of 300 hours to follow to completion into a 93 minute package.

Characters are made to be mere charactures of themselves, when they aren't reduced to mere cameos or removed altogether. Plot points are ignored or glossed over, and several times are completely altered to only partially resemble their written counterparts. This holds true of both major and minor events and characters, none of which are quite forgivable in an adaptation of an existing work.

So, as an adaptation of the original story, Clannad the Movie is, quite frankly, a failure. It is impossible to judge it accurately as such because of the large discrepancies between the visual novel and its film counterpart. As a film however, while it is not perfect or even above average, it is a better work than fans of the visual novel might realize.

As a love story, Clannad works on a basic level. The story focuses on Tomoya Okazaki, a young man who finds himself out of touch and distant from the world. He meets a young woman named Nagisa Furukawa, who immediately takes a liking to him. For the duration there is a certain chemistry between the two. While this is weaker than presented in the original work, it does make it through to the film in some form.

There is a feeling, however, that things are a bit rushed, even absent the visual novel. The film, narrated by Tomoya himself some years into the future, does not utilize the property as it could and perhaps should in establishing its characters. This leaves the film feeling disjointed at several points, with the relationship flying by at a pace that is unwieldy to say the least, with uncomfortable jolts at several junctions. However, the overarching story line, while rife with cliché and at times overblown symbolism, is still an enjoyable one to witness.

The movie does succeed in getting the viewer attached to Nagisa, and hoping for Tomoya to overcome his struggles in life. This film version of Tomoya, however, is not nearly as likable as the quirky Nagisa, whose initial shyness quickly vanishes into a constantly cheery disposition. Tomoya, on the other hand, starts off cold and depressing and remains that way throughout, with only rare cracks of a rough exterior to show for all Nagisa’s prodding. The dynamic is strong in spite of an unlikable male lead, spared only for the relative strength of the female lead.

This attachment to and reliance on Nagisa, ironically, helps add to the film, which at the end does contribute to a heartwarming, though all-too-brief conclusion. My initial reaction to the film was one of general praise despite the issues which were all too apparent.

This is not because Clannad is a good movie. It is not. On both the technical and creative levels, the movie falls far short of what should be reasonably expected of it.

As an animated film, it is typically expected that the art quality will be better than that of a television series. For Clannad, however, this does not hold true. The art style is somewhat awkward, as though trying to ram the existing characters into what Toei believes characters should look like. Unfortunately, Toei's ideas on character design seem firmly rooted in the 1980s.

Beyond that, an extreme use of clichés such as birds taking flight and cherry blossom petals falling at nearly every opportunity diminishes the work further. The camera work, which is oftentimes as disjointed as the story line, increases the prevalence of these issues.

On the sound front, Toei again seems trapped in an era long gone by. While "Mag Mell" makes an appearance as the opening theme, once the opening credits stop rolling, Clannad eschews the soundtrack from the game completely. What replaces it are stereotypical guitar strums, Alleluia choruses and sound effects that would be more at home in a low-quality monster of the week series than a high-budget theatrical production.

These issues detract greatly from what could have been a terrific movie if the clichés were in great part removed and the overuse of symbolism was toned down. Even the audio and visual issues could be generally overlooked if the movie had used its time better. With perhaps an extra 30 minutes, some of these issues could have been more easily addressed, and over-compression is at the core of what defeats Toei's attempt at adapting this story.

Clannad, in general, is a failure. It is not an adaptation worthy of the brand name it takes for itself, and its reliance on cliché to make the story flow and establish characters hurts it significantly. However, while the film is undoubtedly weak, there is a bond that is created where these issues can, on some level, be overlooked. It is hard to recommend because of its loose use of plot devices from the original story, but also because of its reliance to some degree on knowledge of these characters it so often denigrates.

That said, Clannad is an enjoyable 90 minutes if you can get past the brand name. This is no small task, and it is not worth it for most viewers, but as far as failures go, Clannad is surprisingly entertaining despite itself.✭✭✩✩

[Project S.T.A.R.]

Clannad the Movie Review (http://www.vrmnet.com/documents/clannadmoviereview.pdf)

Any adaptation of an existing work, to succeed in a new medium, must in some way be simplified. It is the nature of adaptations to alter the work in a way to better suit the changing presentation, and this should be an accepted fact by fans of the original work.

However, there is a point where one goes too far in an attempt to simplify a story in order to fit a medium which does not inherently suit it.

Such is the case with Toei Animation's film adaptation of Key/VisualArt's Clannad. Oversimplification does not begin to describe how Toei attempted to shove a visual novel that can take upwards of 300 hours to follow to completion into a 93 minute package.

Characters are made to be mere charactures of themselves, when they aren't reduced to mere cameos or removed altogether. Plot points are ignored or glossed over, and several times are completely altered to only partially resemble their written counterparts. This holds true of both major and minor events and characters, none of which are quite forgivable in an adaptation of an existing work.

So, as an adaptation of the original story, Clannad the Movie is, quite frankly, a failure. It is impossible to judge it accurately as such because of the large discrepancies between the visual novel and its film counterpart. As a film however, while it is not perfect or even above average, it is a better work than fans of the visual novel might realize.

As a love story, Clannad works on a basic level. The story focuses on Tomoya Okazaki, a young man who finds himself out of touch and distant from the world. He meets a young woman named Nagisa Furukawa, who immediately takes a liking to him. For the duration there is a certain chemistry between the two. While this is weaker than presented in the original work, it does make it through to the film in some form.

There is a feeling, however, that things are a bit rushed, even absent the visual novel. The film, narrated by Tomoya himself some years into the future, does not utilize the property as it could and perhaps should in establishing its characters. This leaves the film feeling disjointed at several points, with the relationship flying by at a pace that is unwieldy to say the least, with uncomfortable jolts at several junctions. However, the overarching story line, while rife with cliché and at times overblown symbolism, is still an enjoyable one to witness.

The movie does succeed in getting the viewer attached to Nagisa, and hoping for Tomoya to overcome his struggles in life. This film version of Tomoya, however, is not nearly as likable as the quirky Nagisa, whose initial shyness quickly vanishes into a constantly cheery disposition. Tomoya, on the other hand, starts off cold and depressing and remains that way throughout, with only rare cracks of a rough exterior to show for all Nagisa’s prodding. The dynamic is strong in spite of an unlikable male lead, spared only for the relative strength of the female lead.

This attachment to and reliance on Nagisa, ironically, helps add to the film, which at the end does contribute to a heartwarming, though all-too-brief conclusion. My initial reaction to the film was one of general praise despite the issues which were all too apparent.

This is not because Clannad is a good movie. It is not. On both the technical and creative levels, the movie falls far short of what should be reasonably expected of it.

As an animated film, it is typically expected that the art quality will be better than that of a television series. For Clannad, however, this does not hold true. The art style is somewhat awkward, as though trying to ram the existing characters into what Toei believes characters should look like. Unfortunately, Toei's ideas on character design seem firmly rooted in the 1980s.

Beyond that, an extreme use of clichés such as birds taking flight and cherry blossom petals falling at nearly every opportunity diminishes the work further. The camera work, which is oftentimes as disjointed as the story line, increases the prevalence of these issues.

On the sound front, Toei again seems trapped in an era long gone by. While "Mag Mell" makes an appearance as the opening theme, once the opening credits stop rolling, Clannad eschews the soundtrack from the game completely. What replaces it are stereotypical guitar strums, Alleluia choruses and sound effects that would be more at home in a low-quality monster of the week series than a high-budget theatrical production.

These issues detract greatly from what could have been a terrific movie if the clichés were in great part removed and the overuse of symbolism was toned down. Even the audio and visual issues could be generally overlooked if the movie had used its time better. With perhaps an extra 30 minutes, some of these issues could have been more easily addressed, and over-compression is at the core of what defeats Toei's attempt at adapting this story.

Clannad, in general, is a failure. It is not an adaptation worthy of the brand name it takes for itself, and its reliance on cliché to make the story flow and establish characters hurts it significantly. However, while the film is undoubtedly weak, there is a bond that is created where these issues can, on some level, be overlooked. It is hard to recommend because of its loose use of plot devices from the original story, but also because of its reliance to some degree on knowledge of these characters it so often denigrates.

That said, Clannad is an enjoyable 90 minutes if you can get past the brand name. This is no small task, and it is not worth it for most viewers, but as far as failures go, Clannad is surprisingly entertaining despite itself.✭✭✩✩

Everybody's a critic... *sigh*. I don't rly care what others say.

I loved it, my wife loved it and my daughter spend the second part of the movie with tears in her eyes. When the movie ended she said: "I Loved it!!".

My daughter is 7y old and she loved it.

You say that the animation is no good. Well i say it has its unique style. You say that other characters have been neglected or given cameos. Well i say if they introduced evry single char then the movie would be overly long and it would lose the purpose of the story.

This movie concentrates in the relationship between Tomoyo and Nagisa when they first met and the ordeal that Tomoyo was put through after Nagisa's death during childbirth. It also depicts Tomoyo converting in what he hated the most... His Father...

A Failure?? Not a Chance. A possible ending to the series...

So i say: Let's watch it again xD

But that's just me ^^

[VRMN]

Everybody's a critic... *sigh*. I don't rly care what others say.

I loved it, my wife loved it and my daughter spend the second part of the movie with tears in her eyes. When the movie ended she said: "I Loved it!!".

My daughter is 7y old and she loved it.

You say that the animation is no good. Well i say it has its unique style. You say that other characters have been neglected or given cameos. Well i say if they introduced evry single char then the movie would be overly long and it would lose the purpose of the story.

This movie concentrates in the relationship between Tomoyo and Nagisa when they first met and the ordeal that Tomoyo was put through after Nagisa's death during childbirth. It also depicts Tomoyo converting in what he hated the most... His Father...

A Failure?? Not a Chance. A possible ending to the series...

So i say: Let's watch it again xD

But that's just me ^^

Of course. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I believe I did mention in my review that my initial reaction was that the movie was entertaining, a conclusion I stand by.

However, that does not remove (in my opinion) the animation issues (which it does have) and that several major characters, including Nagisa and Tomoya are greatly simplified to the detriment of the story, making it much more clichéd.

I didn't expect them to use every character, and in fact don't mind the cameos (Kotomi) and repurposing (Kouko) because I understood the story would focus on Tomoya and Nagisa's story. But those are minor issues compared to the more critical flaws of the film, which center on overuse of cliché and two-dimensional characterizations for lack of time.

It's a fun movie, but a very, very flawed one, and only part of those flaws relate to the movie wearing the Clannad name.

[Sammich]

Yes but just because you don't like a movie doesn't mean it's a bad movie. I for one find Lord Of The Rings and Star Wars incredibly boring and stupid, but that doesn't mean they are bad movies. While I do agree some movies are just bad, like Epic Movie (even if you like it you can't say it's a good movie). Just try to watch the movie without comparing it to the game. Cause you can't expect the whole story of a +300 hours game in a 1 hour and 40 minutes long movie.

You're right, I completely misunderstood what you were saying earlier.Sorry about that. Personally, even without comparing the movie to the game I don't like it, but that doesn't make it a universally bad movie of course.

[Kristen]

Yes but just because you don't like a movie doesn't mean it's a bad movie. I for one find Lord Of The Rings and Star Wars incredibly boring and stupid, but that doesn't mean they are bad movies. While I do agree some movies are just bad, like Epic Movie (even if you like it you can't say it's a good movie). Just try to watch the movie without comparing it to the game. Cause you can't expect the whole story of a +300 hours game in a 1 hour and 40 minutes long movie.

90 hour game. They wouldn't animate the bad ends, or it would go out of canon. :p

In actuality, if they wanted to animate the Nagisa arc and after story, it's more like 20-24 hours of gameplay trying to be compacted into 90 minutes. And you can also take out a lot of the jokes that were repeated, and other random things that they repeat since it has less of an effect in a VN than a movie. (IE: They only need to show Tomoya sore after work 1 time, not 4 or 5.)

So, in the end, I think they had only about 10 hours or so of material to animate, and had to select from that.

[margafred]

Hmm..i want to go abit detail about the movie,but i think there's no need for it.

Majority comments that i saw in here mostly pointing out about their disappointment on the movie,either because of the suck storyline (issit really that bad?I feel fine with it...) or because of the character design which is almostly different than the character made by KyoAni (about this one,i think Toei most likely follow the original character design from the game itself,while KyoAni "added" their style into the character design..lucky i'm not really into KyoAni's style so this one is not an issue to me)...but overall the movie itself was great...it really touches me deeply,and making me feel like crying especially during the ending part.

I think this movie could go even better if they could expand the storyline and gives more time towards the character and storyline development.The movie was too compact i think,the storyline moving too fast,things like pop out in a sudden without any hinting or clue...there're so many parts inside the movie that missing...90 minutes certainly not enough to show the whole storyline without missing any part of it.So the only problems that matter in this movie was the "time" itself..if only they could give more time into it,this movie could probably gives more impact to the viewers,and giving more feeling to the storyline.



Anyway it was not that bad after all..it was different than the TV series itself but i hope ppl don't really compare the movie with the tv series...there's nothing to compare between the movie and the tv series,since both are different in their own way.

Rating - 9/10

[Project S.T.A.R.]

Of course. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I believe I did mention in my review that my initial reaction was that the movie was entertaining, a conclusion I stand by.

However, that does not remove (in my opinion) the animation issues (which it does have) and that several major characters, including Nagisa and Tomoya are greatly simplified to the detriment of the story, making it much more clichéd.

I didn't expect them to use every character, and in fact don't mind the cameos (Kotomi) and repurposing (Kouko) because I understood the story would focus on Tomoya and Nagisa's story. But those are minor issues compared to the more critical flaws of the film, which center on overuse of cliché and two-dimensional characterizations for lack of time.

It's a fun movie, but a very, very flawed one, and only part of those flaws relate to the movie wearing the Clannad name.

Yes, its true that the story is a cliché, however, what isn't nowadays in movies and series? Take the example of AIR movie and Shakugan no Shana movie. Their stories are all taken from the series itself and remodeled to fit in a 90 min motion picture. As for the animation flaws well its true some could be easily corrected and the animators could have done a better job but when you see a movie or a series you aren't there to look for flaws, animation misplacements or even translation errors, you are there to enjoy it and feel the plot for yourself. I just thought your review of the movie was pretty harsh, it was as if you were comparing the movie with the actual series. Perhaps if you hadn't watch the series so far your opinion would be different. Altough it was a harsh review it was quite detailed ;)

Rating - 10/10 (Forgot earlier xD)

[Kusanagi420]

So i just watched Clannad the movie so is the series the same as the movie or is it an alternate timeline?

[Project S.T.A.R.]

So i just watched Clannad the movie so is the series the same as the movie or is it an alternate timeline?

Who knows... maybe the series might have the same ending but without Nagisa's death.

[Kusanagi420]

Who knows... maybe the series might have the same ending but without Nagisa's death.

Hopefully that would make me like the series more.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Yes, its true that the story is a cliché, however, what isn't nowadays in movies and series? Take the example of AIR movie and Shakugan no Shana movie. Their stories are all taken from the series itself and remodeled to fit in a 90 min motion picture. As for the animation flaws well its true some could be easily corrected and the animators could have done a better job but when you see a movie or a series you aren't there to look for flaws, animation misplacements or even translation errors, you are there to enjoy it and feel the plot for yourself. I just thought your review of the movie was pretty harsh, it was as if you were comparing the movie with the actual series. Perhaps if you hadn't watch the series so far your opinion would be different. Altough it was a harsh review it was quite detailed ;)

Rating - 10/10 (Forgot earlier xD)

The Shana movie, though, was more accurate to the source material than the show itself is. Sadly.

[SSJiffy]

That movie was awesome! I absolute loved the plot despite how streamlined for time it may be. I felt awkward watching Clannad that didn't conclude after 24 minutes, I was like fidgeting in my seat waiting for the credits even though I knew it was an 1.5 hour movie. I just couldn't shake that feeling, lol. I really liked the character developments and how the characters seem to draw you into their lives (preemptive flame-shield: at least for me).

I really didn't see Nagisa's Death coming. I was all 'awn, how nice that they're hooked up! it's beautiful.' and then it was bam right in the kisser. Up until this plot point in the movie I had no way to fathom this kind of thing ever happening to one of the characters, especially not her. I guess this is one of the things that caught me so off-guard and kept me pinned down anxious for a conclusion.

When the conclusion finally came I felt it was too short, Tomoya was very depressed and suddenly he meets his daughter and catches her as she trips and they all laugh and then the credits roll. What was up with that? I mean, it's an ending I liked but it was too short. I would of liked some more development on this.

[Project S.T.A.R.]

That movie was awesome! I absolute loved the plot despite how streamlined for time it may be. I felt awkward watching Clannad that didn't conclude after 24 minutes, I was like fidgeting in my seat waiting for the credits even though I knew it was an 1.5 hour movie. I just couldn't shake that feeling, lol. I really liked the character developments and how the characters seem to draw you into their lives (preemptive flame-shield: at least for me).

I really didn't see Nagisa's Death coming. I was all 'awn, how nice that they're hooked up! it's beautiful.' and then it was bam right in the kisser. Up until this plot point in the movie I had no way to fathom this kind of thing ever happening to one of the characters, especially not her. I guess this is one of the things that caught me so off-guard and kept me pinned down anxious for a conclusion.

When the conclusion finally came I felt it was too short, Tomoya was very depressed and suddenly he meets his daughter and catches her as she trips and they all laugh and then the credits roll. What was up with that? I mean, it's an ending I liked but it was too short. I would of liked some more development on this.

Yes, it's true that the ending was very short and further development would add to the enthusiasm of the fans.
When we saw Akio holding little Ushio, she was facing the other way, therefore her face wasn't visible and Tomoya quickly turns his face away from her but when his friends are there, so he was forced to look at her. Her face was the mirror image of Nagisa so maybe that's why he couldn't bring himself to be with his own daughter, because she reminded him of Nagisa. After that it concludes the "nightmare" he was having since he was a kid. It was the same as Nagisa's. They were destined to be together.

I rolled to the end of the credits waiting for further devolepment :D but no luck :sad:

[Project S.T.A.R.]

The Shana movie, though, was more accurate to the source material than the show itself is. Sadly.

Aaahhh, don't remind me of it....

[Proto]

Blah, hence why I said people were spoiling the anime for themselves. Well, at least you can look forward to the full fledged development :p

[Jehuty]

My observations


Pros:

- It's clannad.
- Some of the scenes were beautifully animated
- The focus on the arc

Cons:

- Some of the humor felt cheap
- Okazaki reminded me of Bakayuki
- The ending was dissapointing
- Some of the scenes were horribly animated

I can understand his deep depression, I can even understand his continued resentment (although to me it seems it's unfair -- the old man is obviously not a bad man, and it's not like he doesn't feel guilty) towards his dad, but not seeing his daughter even once for 5 years? Nagisa is the love of his life, how could he turn like that on his own child? that part angered me, especially since it seemed to unlike Okazaki.

Which is another thing -- they changed everyone's attitude, like it's taking place in a completely different 'reality'.

although I do feel that the reunion with his daughter was powerful, it was also forced and rushed. It would've felt more realistic if he had just.. If he had just stood there unable to face her, and then have her hug him and him breaking down and embracing Ushio. I don't know, the way they handled it was too short and somewhat corny.

I enjoyed the movie but there were so many things that didn't sit well with me, and the idea of Nagisa dying is just too sad. I know that's the intended purpose, but what the hell. I also wanted Bakayu--I mean, Okazaki to succeed where his own dad failed.

Still, I'd watch it again. I have an odd mixture of feelings. Nearly equal parts of disappointment and enjoyment

[Khaos]

I just galloped through it and decided not to watch it.
- I don't like the character designs
- I don't like Tomoya's different voice
- Nagisa dies????? WHAT?? I never ever want to see that happen until they are a happy old married couple!!! No way I'm watching this, too depressing, I suffered enough from AIR!!

[Kushi]

Just watched the movie...

The movie was actually quite nice, I would have hoped for CLANNAD the TV series to be similar. There was barely any Sunohara beat downs, which was actually a really nice change, infact he was like the greatest person in the movie... the first half was pretty much all him. I didn't really like the fact that Nagisa died, but it wasn't like the worse thing either.. It took away from the happy everyone loves Tomoya mood and made Tomoya the emo kid. Which was actually also a nice change. Though I would have liked it a bit more if they introduced the president girl and the twins more... but really this movie was a really nice change from the usual Clannad, infact I would have liked Clannad TV to be like the movie more.



But geez! It was SOOO weird seeing the Sunosakakyou trio instead of a beat down. O_o.... looks like Sunohara finally got his harem!! lol

[Project S.T.A.R.]

Btw, did anyone else thought that Nagisa's death was unnecessary?

I mean, the doctor said that her body was too weak to give birth. So, haven't they ever heard of a C Section?
That is supposed to relieve the body from the stress of giving birth normally.

Could she have been saved by this?

[Klashikari]

^ No she wouldn't at all because of her own beliefs.
unfortunately, the movie completely mauled why Nagisa can't undergo Caesarean section.

In fact, her hospitalization didn't make sense, she would be alive if that didn't happen.

In the game, Nagisa WANTS a home delivery, hence without any medical support, considering her own strength and wish to not cry outside of their appartement. that's why she didn't deliver Ushio at the hospital.

That's why her death in the movie didn't seem exactly as powerful and meaningful, as it didn't seem they tried to do everything to save her. And to tell you the truth, it is kinda unrealistic how Nagisa could be "alive" but agonizing after the delivery

[Project S.T.A.R.]

^ No she wouldn't at all because of her own beliefs.
unfortunately, the movie completely mauled why Nagisa can't undergo Caesarean section.

In fact, her hospitalization didn't make sense, she would be alive if that didn't happen.

In the game, Nagisa WANTS a home delivery, hence without any medical support, considering her own strength and wish to not cry outside of their appartement. that's why she didn't deliver Ushio at the hospital.

That's why her death in the movie didn't seem exactly as powerful and meaningful, as it didn't seem they tried to do everything to save her. And to tell you the truth, it is kinda unrealistic how Nagisa could be "alive" but agonizing after the delivery

True, it seems that they rly wanted us to believe that she couldn't b saved no matter what but still... Hmm, i guess the series won't b the same after watching the movie for some people. And it was really sad her singing at her deathbed as well as her last words to Tomoya.

AAAHHHH, i want to play the game!!!! xD

[Jaden]

Alright, watched it...

comments: There is no CLANNAD movie.

[Kaisos Erranon]

Alright, watched it...

comments: There is no CLANNAD movie.

There is no Tsukihime anime.

[Project S.T.A.R.]

Alright, watched it...

comments: There is no CLANNAD movie.

I guess you watched the wrong movie then :twitch:

[Bankai29]

OMG OMG OMG!!! Tokimeki MOVIE!!!!...er....Clannad movie...:confused:

The Characters were all so suprising!!!

Was that really Nagisa?!?!
Akio was funny....
Kyou, Tomoyo, Akio, Sanae, Kotomi was ..........HUH?!?!
Where was Ryou & Yukine?!?!?

I was so WTF'd?!?!?!??

[Project S.T.A.R.]

OMG OMG OMG!!! Tokimeki MOVIE!!!!...er....Clannad movie...:confused:

The Characters were all so suprising!!!

Was that really Nagisa?!?!
Akio was funny....
Kyou, Tomoyo, Akio, Sanae, Kotomi was ..........HUH?!?!
Where was Ryou & Yukine?!?!?

I was so WTF'd?!?!?!??

What? Were you expecting a follow up of the series?

That was movie. Naturally some chars were left out and others remodeled to fit in it.

[Klashikari]

I guess you watched the wrong movie then :twitch:
That is a rampant quote that fans used for Shingetsutan Tsukihime, as this anime series mauled so much the plot and especially the characters that they couldn't consider it as a true adaptation of the VN Tsukihime. In such instance, it can be used for Clannad Movie, along with "black history".

And seriously, there isn't much you can claim in comparison between the movie with either the game and the anime (especially in term of message/themes behind it).


By the way, in a very neutral point of view, I can't consider it as a Movie quality, but when I see THESE screencaps, it is worse:

http://b.imagehost.org/t/0254/snapshot20080313031655.jpg (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0254/snapshot20080313031655.jpg) http://b.imagehost.org/t/0254/snapshot20080313031800.jpg (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0254/snapshot20080313031800.jpg) http://b.imagehost.org/t/0254/snapshot20080313043421.jpg (http://b.imagehost.org/view/0254/snapshot20080313043421.jpg)
Proportions completely off, with a very silly perspective.

[Joachim]

So i just watched Clannad the movie so is the series the same as the movie or is it an alternate timeline?

i would say... the movie is close to alternate timeline (heck it can even be a different series altogether, just have a same name clannad, and some similiar plot story) so yea i would say it is different, but you might find yourself spoiled with the movie though :heh:

[Joachim]

What? Were you expecting a follow up of the series?

That was movie. Naturally some chars were left out and others remodeled to fit in it.

i think he is not exactly expecting a follow up, but a canon character with the game/anime series (which are the original) and the list of character that he mention did change A LOT in the movie though, best to remove them altogether :heh:

[dgreater1]

Okay, as a small defense on CLANNAD movie, I'll tell you a little spoiler

CLANNAD is a story of stories, much like a compilation. Imagine, the Illusionary World is like a giant library and the lights are books that contains unlimited path of endings, BAD and GOOD. Those lights go out of the Illusionary World to tell a story (similar to a book that's being borrowed or rent in the library) then will go back to the Illusionary World after that (same as returning the book to the library). That is my theory of CLANNAD, therefore, I view CLANNAD movie as CLANNAD with an alternate story that was cut on Tomoya and Ushio reuniting making us only wonder what will happen to them in the future.

[Joachim]

Okay, as a small defense on CLANNAD movie, I'll tell you a little spoiler

CLANNAD is a story of stories, much like a compilation. Imagine, the Illusionary World is like a giant library and the lights are books that contains unlimited path of endings, BAD and GOOD. Those lights go out of the Illusionary World to tell a story (similar to a book that's being borrowed or rent in the library) then will go back to the Illusionary World after that (same as returning the book to the library). That is my theory of CLANNAD, therefore, I view CLANNAD movie as CLANNAD with an alternate story that was cut on Tomoya and Ushio reuniting making us only wonder what will happen to them in the future.

isn't the light is some kind of "hope" that can grant wish ? and okazaki is going on and on to collect this light to open an even promising future? so i would say illusionary world is like a checkpoint where one can redo their "stories" and with more lights that the player has, the more chance he will get the stories that he want in the first place

and if you put it in your theory, i guess we can call the movie an alternate universe then

[dgreater1]

isn't the light is some kind of "hope" that can grant wish ? and okazaki is going on and on to collect this light to open an even promising future? so i would say illusionary world is like a checkpoint where one can redo their "stories" and with more lights that the player has, the more chance he will get the stories that he want in the first place

and if you put it in your theory, i guess we can call the movie an alternate universe then

We should probably discuss this on the Game Speculation Thread (For experienced player only). But anyway... I don't think it's a hope that can grant wish. Yukine described it as a sign of happiness, the girl in Illusionary World told the Robot that he was once a light as well, and she was also once a light as well but decided to be the representative of the Illusionary World. Therefore, it means that the lights are traveling back and forth to the Illusionary World and the other world that's connected to it. Which means, there's a Kyou, Tomoyo, Yukine, Kotomi, Nagisa, Sunohara, all the people in the town has a light in the Illusionary World much like Tomoya, the difference is, Tomoya has a body and is aware of the Illusionary World unlike the other lights.

[Joachim]

lets continue in the game speculation thread :)

[zeth006]

PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION HERE:

Could someone explain to me just what the heck is going on here? Wikipedia shows that the series hasn't ended yet. Still we have 2 more episodes remaining. :confused: Nagisa is long dead...5 years. What next?

[hachihachi]

for me i wont want to know that answer yet. yes, the movie ends that way, but i am still harbouring hopes that the anime turns out differently. *i can always hope, right?* :upset:

the movie ending may be kind of OK for some, but i guess i belong to the anguished category......was totally upset by it.

[Project S.T.A.R.]

PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION HERE:

Could someone explain to me just what the heck is going on here? Wikipedia shows that the series hasn't ended yet. Still we have 2 more episodes remaining. :confused: Nagisa is long dead...5 years. What next?

That was the end of the movie, not the series...

In the series Nagisa isn't suffering of any disease nor was in the hospital therefore we can assume that she is perfectly healthy.

[Project S.T.A.R.]

for me i wont want to know that answer yet. yes, the movie ends that way, but i am still harbouring hopes that the anime turns out differently. *i can always hope, right?* :upset:

the movie ending may be kind of OK for some, but i guess i belong to the anguished category......was totally upset by it.

So was i but i wasn't expecting anything else since i heard she took time off from school because she had a weak body. And in AniDB the image shows Nagisa and Tomoya with a child in his arms. Pretty obvious, right?

[Highlygifted]

Alright, this movie seems like a low end movie to me. Honestly, at first, I didn't even wanna watch this. The changes were horrible, they rushed things too quickly or spent time too slowly, a variety of things. I was expecting a short School Story, and long focused AS, but it was flip flopped. Tomoyo seemed to be the antagonist at first, until I noticed she was talking in a different person tone, to take advantage of the situation to boost her campaign. The movie tried too hard to condense the game in a messed up way, when it should've let the anime do most of the leadup, and only use 10-15 minutes for it for the people who don't watch the anime. The ending is quite touching, and IMO, the only redeeming aspect of the movie.

[Tran225]

is it just me or does the movie have a lil problem in the volume for the people's voice? the background music volume sounds fine but the voice sounds are rather.. low

[X207]

does the character progression of nagisa in ep 21 reveal the last detail of her arc? im not going to watch the movie until i know that it wont spoil any other major events of nagisa's se1 arc. also does it explain more about the illusionary world in the movie than it has done so in se1 so far?

[acrana]

does the character progression of nagisa in ep 21 reveal the last detail of her arc? im not going to watch the movie until i know that it wont spoil any other major events of nagisa's se1 arc. also does it explain more about the illusionary world in the movie than it has done so in se1 so far?

The movie goes into After Story which the anime probably wont go into. Yeah this is the end of Nagisa's School life arc which isnt as dramatic as the after story one. :(

[Kanzaki Urumi]

Just finished the movie, Sunohara once again plays a pivotal role.

They could have given Tomoya some beard, messed up hair and some eyebags during his depression period. ;) Decent movie though regardless of how shit it is at certain departments.

[X207]

The movie goes into After Story which the anime probably wont go into. Yeah this is the end of Nagisa's School life arc which isnt as dramatic as the after story one. :(

ty very much. ill have to watch it tomorrow then.

[SuperKnuckles]

is it just me or does the movie have a lil problem in the volume for the people's voice? the background music volume sounds fine but the voice sounds are rather.. low

Typical movie style sound mixing. Many theatrical movies (or TV shows that tries to pass off as a movie like 24) have that. Relatively low talking volume and the incredibly LOUD musical/sound volume on top of it.

[Codine]

I was disappointed, it just felt paced wrong. My only reason to ever watch it again would just to watch how funny Sunohara is. Also it really cuts a lot of the characters out, Ryou is no longer in existance.

[Mai Kawasumi]

Decent movie... and I admit it... I BAAAAAAAAAAW'D when

Nagisa dies :(

Sunohara and Akio were awesome :D

oh, Ushio is love <3333

[Deathscyther]

Animation: 7/10
I like the animation of the anime better

Characters: 5/10
They changed most of the personalities of the characters, and some were even left out completely...

Sound: 6/10 It wasn't really good, except for the cute dango song

Story: 6/10 They changed the story by a lot. Only the last few minutes really grabbed my attention. The tomoya/ushio reunion was the only good point of this movie.

I'll give it a 6/10 in total.
It was nice to watch one time, but they changed too much in my opinion. It was nice to see some after story elements, but I hope that the anime will make a season 2 to make their own after story as well. If you watch this movie without thinking that it's Clannad, so just seeing it as a random anime movie, then it's okay. But in comparison to the game and anime, the movie was disappointing.

[zrdb]

OK-story 8.5-it reminded me of Air with the sadness at the end, music-9-I've heard the ost and it's very good (Dango, dango.......), characters-8.5-well developed and beliveable, overall-8.

[FireChick]

I saw most of the movie a half hour ago! I liked it! Youhei was soooo hilarious in this thing! Koko was awesome too! I can't believe it! If KyoAni animated what Kouko did in the movie into the anime then I would've been cracking myself up so bad! I only saw up to..."THAT" part (guess please) because my sister interrupted me and told me to keep my mouth shut.

[NoOneKnowS]

Just finished the movie, Sunohara once again plays a pivotal role.

They could have given Tomoya some beard, messed up hair and some eyebags during his depression period. ;) Decent movie though regardless of how shit it is at certain departments.

That would remind me of some guy in a certain series who got his girlfriend in a car accident ending up in a coma for years. ;)

[armedrabbit]

eh im scared of spoilers, should i wait to finish the anime series or watch the movie first?

[monir]

eh im scared of spoilers, should i wait to finish the anime series or watch the movie first?
As I've found out last night, the movie tells the entire story while the anime series will just get about half the way with the remaining episodes. If you watch the movie now, you won't have to wait for the 2nd season (providing there will be one in the near future). To reiterate, the movie will give way what's to come next, so the decision is yours.

[X207]

eh im scared of spoilers, should i wait to finish the anime series or watch the movie first?

the only spoilers i can think of is the plot of the play (if anything) atm. they probably wont go that far in the anime when tomoya ad nagisa are bound to get together. but then again i havent played the game in my life. the first half i thought it was a standalone movie but the 2nd half just proved it wrong. you can wait if you want to but i couldnt wait 2-3 weeks.

movie
damn it sucks that she didnt make it thru to the labour. none theless it was a good but sad movie. btw wat happened to tomoyo in the after story?? also, why is the clannad story so fond of killing off main characters?

[Proto]

the only spoilers i can think of is the plot of the play (if anything) atm. they probably wont go that far in the anime when tomoya ad nagisa are bound to get together. but then again i havent played the game in my life. the first half i thought it was a standalone movie but the 2nd half just proved it wrong. you can wait if you want to but i couldnt wait 2-3 weeks.


Hence why many people are suggesting that it'd be better to wait and see if there is any second season announcement. If there is, it might be easier to take the decision to wait or not given the circumstances ;)

[yongshun]

The movie is not that bad, if I have never heard of the game or watched the anime it would be a decent movie to go watch.

[FatalMemory]

The opening of the anime was so much better, the animation of the petals and the timing of the "Nagisa" track made the best opening two minutes of an anime I've ever seen.

To play the Clannad theme in this scene is almost blasphemous.

[monir]

The only thing the TV series has done better, in my humble opinion, is the animation. The movie focuses solely on the two characters that makes the plot interesting to say the least. After watching the movie, I just couldn't help but be feel that the TV series wasn't meant for me. The TV series's target audience are the game players who would enjoy all those "paths" even though the outcome of the main event doesn't require other characters to take 16-17 episodes of time slot. Five to six episodes would have been enough to get those characters involved/relevant to the main event. The TV series is a tribute to those faithful Key-fans. If the other remaining fans (casual ones who haven't played the game) gets the story or not from this TV series is a little of consequence. Yes, I'm a little annoyed by the TV series, but at least I've got to watch the movie where I've come to appreciate the core theme of this story without all the redundancy. No wonder I was failing to understand the arguments made by the game players and was having difficulty to see what's the core theme was all along. The show truly begins from episode 19 in the TV series.

I really hope there will be a 2nd season by KyoAni just because how horrible Toei is with their animation effort and the organization. This story deserves it.

[Proto]

While what you say is true, that the true start of CLANNAD is around ep 19, there is a reason all the prelude is necessary. It wasn't apparent in the movie since it was skipped over, but if KyoAni ever makes a second season I hope you will be able to see how it makes sense together :p

[Vestus]

The last scene with Ushio made the movie for me. Other than that, it was mediocre. The Anime Series is much better. But, what can u expect in a compressed 1.5 hour version of the Anime Series. And because of that, I give this movie a 7/10.

[maymay]

The last scene with Ushio made the movie for me. Other than that, it was mediocre. The Anime Series is much better. But, what can u expect in a compressed 1.5 hour version of the Anime Series. And because of that, I give this movie a 7/10.

^I agree with you
The Ushio scene was definitely the best part, it had me tearing up quite a bit. I was kind of disappointed that there wasn't much of the other girls in the movie. I know it's centered around Nagisa but to completely cut out both Fuko and Ryou and show like one screenshot of the back of Kotomi's head :frustrated:
On another note I really loved the dynamics between Akio and Sanae, and Sunohara was hilarious as always :p

[Deathscyther]

The only thing the TV series has done better, in my humble opinion, is the animation. The movie focuses solely on the two characters that makes the plot interesting to say the least. After watching the movie, I just couldn't help but be feel that the TV series wasn't meant for me. The TV series's target audience are the game players who would enjoy all those "paths" even though the outcome of the main event doesn't require other characters to take 16-17 episodes of time slot. Five to six episodes would have been enough to get those characters involved/relevant to the main event. The TV series is a tribute to those faithful Key-fans. If the other remaining fans (casual ones who haven't played the game) gets the story or not from this TV series is a little of consequence. Yes, I'm a little annoyed by the TV series, but at least I've got to watch the movie where I've come to appreciate the core theme of this story without all the redundancy. No wonder I was failing to understand the arguments made by the game players and was having difficulty to see what's the core theme was all along. The show truly begins from episode 19 in the TV series.

I really hope there will be a 2nd season by KyoAni just because how horrible Toei is with their animation effort and the organization. This story deserves it.

It is true that the movie focused on the 'real story' of clannad, while the anime focuses on the 'side paths' as well. You're right, you could say that episode 19 in the anime is the real start of the show.

But the movie left some very important parts out, which will make you understand why the anime focuses so much on the 'side paths(characters)' so much. I sure hope that Kyoani will make a second season to show the reason behind this as well. It will make the story complete and everything will make sense this way and I think that even the non-clannad-gamers will find the anime better than the movie this way.

[Cynor]

I think that even the non-clannad-gamers will find the anime better than the movie this way.

Personally, I like the anime a bit more then the movie already even w/o a second season announced/planned/whatever. This is coming from someone who didn't play the game or look up anything about it btw (well, besides a little from this thread) ;P

However, at the same time, I'm also someone who naturally enjoys having a lot of chars if they are fleshed out and have good stories/air time. While the movie was certainly more central to the "main" story if you will, at the same time I think having watched both gives you a better insight into everything. Granted the stories are fairly different, besides the core of Nagisa and the club, so in a sense you can say each is to be taken by separately from one another.

Personally, I think one of the major differences that should appeal to people (and does to me) is just the time-format difference. I mean you're taking what is/was one of the more complex games in terms of paths and trying to condense it down into a 1.5 hour movie? You obviously are going to have cut a lot of things, and the story can get a bit muddled because of it. Having a long time-format of a season on TV you can get a lot better results imo. There be more things not related to the main story, but at least they normally will explains things better, or at least the small things that had to be cut due to time in a movie format.

[Kanzaki Urumi]

Btw, the amount of sakura petals at the start is too much, it feels like they had just stepped into some wonderland.

[Shinbou]

That would remind me of some guy in a certain series who got his girlfriend in a car accident ending up in a coma for years. ;)

Thats Kimi ga Nozomu Eien ^^

Anyway my tought about the movie where good =)
Watched it last night with my bf and i have to say it was more then i expected cause i heard so many people saying the story and quality sucks. The quality wasn't that bad at all, just diffrent.

But i did think the story was a bit rushing at the end, they could have just shown the last parts of the movie About nagisa being pregnate, getting sick and when she died instead of showing it in flash backs.

What i did not like is that Tomoya was a complete diffrent person then from the anime. In the anime he is helpfull and all and in the movie hes irritated and doesnt care about life. I did have some good laughs about sunohara ^^ he was to funny.

[Darklightz]

Well I couldn't help myself, I watched the movie. And I must say I love it!

It was a bit frustrating at first seeing all the characters act so differently. Tomoya is definitely more like his father, very mopy and lethargic. Very different from the anime.

Sunohara is also different but he actually improved in the movie. He's still eccentric but at least he's not a clown everyone likes to humiliate like in the anime.

And the final scene when Tomoya and Ushio meet was very powerful. It really moved me! Nagisa's death was also very well made. Seeing her smile to the end, trying to sing the Dango song, despite her weak body she has a very strong heart!

[SkoolRumble4Ya]

I like this movie. It's not as good as the anime version but it's good. The only thing to me was missing was Tomoya lack of jokes. He wasn't funny in the movie and that was missing. I find it weird dat Kyou is a sidekick of Tomoyo. I give it a 8/10.

[Yukinokesshou]

Absolutely beautiful, but now Kyo Ani will just have to animate a second season for the series because...
we need Nagisa's happy ending in the After Story to counterbalance the movie's sadness. Game gives a choice, so we ought to have a choice too between the animated versions.

I want to see Nagisa as a mum T_T. She'd be the cutest mum in the world. Just watched the game's ending credits for the After Story happy ending... they must animate it or else! :frustrated:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/lapin_rossignol/NagisaUshio3b.jpg
很溫心、很溫暖 ^_^

[Paul]

Thats Kimi ga Nozomu Eien ^^
What i did not like is that Tomoya was a complete diffrent person then from the anime. In the anime he is helpfull and all and in the movie hes irritated and doesnt care about life. I did have some good laughs about sunohara ^^ he was to funny.

Yea, that also struck me as being odd at the beginning, but he did change a lot during the time with nagisa and became the tomoya we all know and love. I mean just listen to him ran about copying the fliers, enough optimism there for an army or two! :D

I was really relieved that Tomoya did become the parent that Nagisa would have hoped him to be, i mean it would have been really heartbraking if he never did visit his child....

[Ice Block]

Absolutely beautiful, but now Kyo Ani will just have to animate a second season for the series because...
we need Nagisa's happy ending in the After Story to counterbalance the movie's sadness. Game gives a choice, so we ought to have a choice too between the animated versions.

I want to see Nagisa as a mum T_T. She'd be the cutest mum in the world. Just watched the game's ending credits for the After Story happy ending... they must animate it or else! :frustrated:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/lapin_rossignol/NagisaUshio3b.jpg
很溫心、很溫暖 ^_^

Not actually a choice -- more like a chance. However, we still need to go through hell to actually have the chance to make that choice.

[Shinbou]

Well i'm glad he did became a parent...altought 5 years are to long. If i would be in Tomoya's situation i would take care of my child with all my heart when the mother is dead...

Cause you know nagisa gave up her life for that child, so it would be awful to not take care of the child at all.

[Paul]

Well i'm glad he did became a parent...altought 5 years are to long. If i would be in Tomoya's situation i would take care of my child with all my heart when the mother is dead...

Cause you know nagisa gave up her life for that child, so it would be awful to not take care of the child at all.

exactly, so relieved that this was the semi-bad ending, cause the BAD ENDING would propably include Tomoyo just commiting suicide shortly after Nagisa's death...

[Yukinokesshou]

Whoa, not only is Tomoya different in the movie, Nagisa is totally different too!

Whereas Tomoya is the one pulling Nagisa up the hill in the series, Nagisa is the one pushing Tomoya up in the movie (metaphorically speaking). Movie Nagisa doesn't need Tomoya to give her confidence; she is already super-confident and not shy in the least o_O

Also, did anyone notice how Nagisa was saying "Tomoya-san" by the 2nd or 3rd time she met him in the movie? In the series, it's already episode 21, they're essentially an item, and she's STILL calling him Okazaki-san :confused:

But shy Nagisa is still cute ^^. Facial expressions are better animated in the series.

[Klashikari]

Whoa, not only is Tomoya different in the movie, Nagisa is totally different too!

Whereas Tomoya is the one pulling Nagisa up the hill in the series, Nagisa is the one pushing Tomoya up in the movie (metaphorically speaking). Movie Nagisa doesn't need Tomoya to give her confidence; she is already super-confident and not shy in the least o_O
This is actually why the plot is super cranky to me: what was the point and the need for Tomoya to help Nagisa? Considering her "personality" in the movie, she would be super popular in no time.
But no, she is just blankly asking help, despite she is rather a "normal girl".

Also, did anyone notice how Nagisa was saying "Tomoya-san" by the 2nd or 3rd time she met him in the movie? In the series, it's already episode 21, they're essentially an item, and she's STILL calling him Okazaki-san :confused:

Yes, that's what i ranted quickly in my first post. Even if we put that aside (as it might look "natural", with nagisa "totally different personality), she is using it from start to finish.
Using such line is hardly fitting nagisa, be it original or "movie", especially after being married with Tomoya and delivering Ushio.

No developments, nor chemistry/relationship progression whatsoever.

[Narumi]

This is actually why the plot is super cranky to me: what was the point and the need for Tomoya to help Nagisa? Considering her "personality" in the movie, she would be super popular in no time.
Because it is a side she only shows to him. Specifically, because it is him. She still expresses a reason why she cannot climb the hill and he gives her that reason to do so.

She barely interacts with any of the other characters in the movie (during that phase), but it is likely she wouldn't be as open to them as she is to Tomoya.

[Yukinokesshou]

Because it is a side she only shows to him. Specifically, because it is him. She still expresses a reason why she cannot climb the hill and he gives her that reason to do so.

True, but it's as if the movie is only paying 'lip service' to that side of Nagisa. She says she's unconfident and needs him and only him, but her actions speak otherwise.

If anything, it would seem like Movie!Nagisa set her eyes on Tomoya from the very beginning. Her feelings don't need to develop because they're already there. So I tend to agree with Klashikari on this: there's no character development for Nagisa. She's static in the movie, a paragon of all things good and pure, an 'idol' for Okazaki.

Only Okazaki changes and develops in the movie.

That said, I still loved the movie's plot. I just wish Nagisa was less surreal and static.

[Narumi]

There's no character development for Nagisa. She's static in the movie, a paragon of all things good and pure, an 'idol' for Okazaki.

Only Okazaki changes and develops in the movie.
Agreed.

But that's how I took the movie... as an exploration of Okazaki and his own character shift and final redemption. Everyone else just served as a catalyst, even Nagisa. While having her also develop would have been nice, it's probably not possible within 1 hour and 33 minutes, and so the focus was on Okazaki and his discovery of 'family.'

[Joachim]

Not actually a choice -- more like a chance. However, we still need to go through hell to actually have the chance to make that choice.

:heh: hell yea thats one hell of a trip to hellish despair for me :heh:

[Solafighter]

Very beautifull movie.. :upset:


Mh im not sure, if its a sad, or happy ending, cause..


on the one hand, nagisa died, but on the other hand, tomoya and his daugther are together.


Anyway, great movie. :)

[Yukinokesshou]

Mh im not sure, if its a sad, or happy ending, cause..

Based on what I know of the game, I believe the movie's ending is halfway between the game's "happy end" and "sad end" for Nagisa's route? The original "happy end" had Nagisa and Ushio both surviving and living happily with Okazaki; the "sad end" had them both dying, with Ushio dying after she and Okazaki became a family.

Can someone who has actually played the game confirm my understanding?

As a point of speculation, I'm guessing that the serial's second season, if there is one, will go for the happy ending. Why? The light orbs were given much emphasis in the "other world" scenes. Their importance hasn't been explained so far, but they bring about the "miracle" in the After Story, don't they?

The movie couldn't possibly explain the concept of "wish granting orbs" in 95 minutes. Besides, the movie isn't fantasy. It's as down-to-earth as Clannad can possibly be (besides the dream coincidence). People can't be brought back to life in the real world. So... I suppose the movie's ending is the best we can expect given the laws of nature!

Bleh, I've adopted a habit of saying "Nagisa" and "Okazaki", just like how they call each other in the serial adaptation. I like the surname Okazaki; it reminds me of DNA replication and such. Hmm, Okazaki getting spliced into little fragments, cloned, and ligated back together...

By the way, isn't Nagisa a great dancer in the movie? :heh:

[LightElf7]

Bleh, I've adopted a habit of saying "Nagisa" and "Okazaki", just like how they call each other in the serial adaptation. I like the surname Okazaki; it reminds me of DNA replication and such. Hmm, Okazaki getting spliced into little fragments, cloned, and ligated back together...


Yay, Okazaki Fragments in DNA replication! Now thats a nice Bio-Anime analogy.

Well I know the movie's general storyline, but does anyone know where I can watch it? I saw it on youtube a few days ago (in raw jaoanese, no sub), but I dont seem to be able to find it anymore....can someone plz help?

[Joachim]

http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/1024.html

or just search clannad movie in animesuki main page search function :) cheers

[Blaat]

Now that the show is done I decided to check out the movie. Oddly enough I find it both weaker and superior to the TV show (even though the show isn't done, technically speaking, maybe there's going to be a second series).
The weaker parts are the Dango family song (TV version sounds better), the humour is badly executed and not really funny at all and not enough development, last one I forgive because its the limitation of the medium.

On the other hand the fact that there's no 'pointless' harem element like in the TV show which makes the movie feel more to the point and also refreshing.

Ah well I really enjoyed the movie.

[Shiroth]

When i think about the movie, and how for me it's a complete version --- it's just something i don't think Kyoani can compete against. The story telling in the movie was at it's total best, just like the AIR movie.

& god dammit some of those scenery shots were out of this world. There was a good reason as to why there's so many of them.

[harukamae]

The weaker parts are the Dango family song (TV version sounds better), the humour is badly executed and not really funny at all and not enough development, last one I forgive because its the limitation of the medium.

On the other hand the fact that there's no 'pointless' harem element like in the TV show which makes the movie feel more to the point and also refreshing.


Agreed on the humor and development, but still I really enjoyed the movie. I keep hearing CLANNAD game was written with the family theme in mind and I really got that from the movie. I still felt like Nagisa was shy and unconfident in the movie, but that Okazaki somehow gave her the confidence needed to go create and perform a play on her own. The big downside is of course that we don't really see what it is about Okazaki that would give her that confidence. In the TV series, we get that from her first meeting, he responds to her little monologue and tells her to come on up the hill and from there he supports her and shows interest in her. In the movie we are kinda left to wonder why - maybe she's attracted to/encouraged by him because he seems disconnected from school like she is, etc.

But for me, it's a fair trade-off - I really like how Tomoya develops and especially the part about the life he and Nagisa were able to create together - how their apartment became this place of light and they amassed their own "Daikazoku" amongst their friends. How Tomoya's friends encouraged him after Nagisa's loss and ultimately reunited him with Ushio and showed him that she was what he needed. I was also glad to see Sunohara get a good part in After Story and remain such a friend to Okazaki.

I still like the TV series' animation better, I think we've had more time to see real development overall, and I like a lot of the other female characters (who didn
t really get much of a role in the movie), but definitely enjoyed the movie.

[Shizzon]

i enjoyed watching the movie, i waited until the series had ended before i watched it though. but i have to say that the character roles the everyone played was way different then those of the series.
kotomi not hiding in the library
tomoyo and kyou working together and not killing sunohara
fuko never appeared.....*sob*
but nagisa and tomoya had the biggest difference and after the end i was pretty happy with the ending

[lubczyk]

Anyone know where I can find external English subtitles for Clannad The Movie? It seems that I've only got the RAW.

[Yukinokesshou]

Anyone know where I can find external English subtitles for Clannad The Movie? It seems that I've only got the RAW.

Softsubs, you mean? I don't know. But for hardsubs, *points up*

[Ice Block]

First off:
Based on what I know of the game, I believe the movie's ending is halfway between the game's "happy end" and "sad end" for Nagisa's route? The original "happy end" had Nagisa and Ushio both surviving and living happily with Okazaki; the "sad end" had them both dying, with Ushio dying after she and Okazaki became a family.

Can someone who has actually played the game confirm my understanding?

As a point of speculation, I'm guessing that the serial's second season, if there is one, will go for the happy ending. Why? The light orbs were given much emphasis in the "other world" scenes. Their importance hasn't been explained so far, but they bring about the "miracle" in the After Story, don't they?

As I've said:Not actually a choice -- more like a chance. However, we still need to go through hell to actually have the chance to make that choice.You are required to go through the Normal (BAD) Ending of AS in order to unlock the True (GOOD) Ending. However, everything that made AS SO DAMN GOOD happens in the Normal (BAD END) Route, so...

And, to answer your first question: the movie's ending takes place right in the middle of the BAD END route.
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So, I ended up "watching" the movie though some blogs.

I may really watch it in the future, but for now, here are my thoughts:

The series' animation quality is superior. Judging from screenshots, the only way the quality can exceed KyoAni's is if it flowed like the series' Illusionary World scenes (24 unique fps). Also, LOL at that scene where they're like in cherry blossom heaven. I can't comment on the BGM.

And so they changed the characters' personalities and roles... The only ones I can properly comment on are Kyou and Kotomi. I'll post on the other characters later if I end up watching it. So:

Kyou - why is she helping Tomoyo? Since Ryou doesn't appear to exist, I believe they cut out her being the "loving and dependabe onee-chan". She also doesn't call everyone by their first names. Also,they cut out her "close friendship" with Tomoya and Sunohara during 2nd year, and her having feelings for Tomoya since back then. This is inevitable though with the exclusion of Ryou from the script, since it was because of her (Ryou) crush on Tomoya that she (Kyou) bottled up her own feelings, giving all the other girls their fair chance ;).
Kotomi - choir conductress? Bad cameo. They should at least have shown her reading some books, or giving some kind of scientific speech/lecture, or maybe playing the violin :heh:.

And so they crammed in Nagisa's school life scenario and AS, resulting in something COMPLETELY different from what Clannad is. I understand that 90 minutes wont be able to properly cover the entire story, but at least they could've stuck closer to the source than just pulling out characters and inserting them into an alternate universe of sorts; or maybe give it a subtitle or disclaimer that states that its plot =/= the game's plot.

Plus, apparently, they skipped some of the BEST scenes in AS, and they never resolved Tomoya's problems with his father.

Well, as many have said, it's a good movie if you don't know anything about Clannad; nice, but a little irritating at times if you have watched the anime; epic fail if you have played the game, IMO. Maybe if I would actually watch it, my impression would improve? Or should I avoid it like the plague? :heh:

[Yukinokesshou]

The series' animation quality is superior. Judging from screenshots, the only way the quality can exceed KyoAni's is if it flowed like the series' Illusionary World scenes (24 unique fps).

Kyou - why is she helping Tomoyo? Since Ryou doesn't appear to exist, I believe they cut out her being the "loving and dependabe onee-chan". She also doesn't call everyone by their first names. Also,they cut out her "close friendship" with Tomoya and Sunohara during 2nd year, and her having feelings for Tomoya since back then. This is inevitable though with the exclusion of Ryou from the script, since it was because of her (Ryou) crush on Tomoya that she (Kyou) bottled up her own feelings, giving all the other girls their fair chance ;).

Maybe if I would actually watch it, my impression would improve? Or should I avoid it like the plague? :heh:

I think you should watch the movie and enjoy it in its own right. Even though the plot might be somewhat lacking, it managed to wrap up Nagisa's story as well as possible within 90 minutes. The movie is quite atmospheric: it feels different from the anime and game, dark and foreboding except for a few minutes in the middle (romance) and the very end (Ushio). Even the school life section is peppered with 'moments' from Tomoya's dark future.

So yes, I enjoyed the movie. Now to comment on the negatives...

The animation is passable but somewhat artificial. Too many special effects, lighting effects and odd angles in my opinion. Nagisa doesn't walk properly but rather drifts and flutters about in a dreamy sort of way. Sometimes, the screen is split in two to show two characters, which looks a bit cheap. And the occasionally magnified/distorted faces of Akio and Yuusuke don't do their appearance any favours. KyoAni's animation is just a lot more... natural.

If you liked Kyou or Tomoyo, the movie would be an absolute disaster. They really don't serve any purpose at all in the movie. Enough said about their campaign collaboration. What I found odd was... suddenly, without any development or explanation, they're Sunohara's best friends in the After Story :confused:

[ReizoSan]

Do you guys think this will use the last part of the movie where Nagisa dies and they have a kid, will be used in the OVA'S as there is 2 to come???

[Yukinokesshou]

Do you guys think this will use the last part of the movie where Nagisa dies and they have a kid, will be used in the OVA'S as there is 2 to come???

No, since there will be a second TV anime season for the drama :)

The OVAs will probably be some light comedy. Take a look at other threads for info about the 2nd season, and some hypotheses about what the OVA might be. You might be interested in the Spoilers and Speculation thread.

[ReizoSan]

No, since there will be a second TV anime season for the drama :)

The OVAs will probably be some light comedy. Take a look at other threads for info about the 2nd season, and some hypotheses about what the OVA might be. You might be interested in the Spoilers and Speculation thread.

Is it just me that i feel the After-Story is quite bad especially what happenes to Nagisa dying :mad:, although i will watch it i hope they modify the story a little :D.

[Klashikari]

Is it just me that i feel the After-Story is quite bad especially what happenes to Nagisa dying :mad:, although i will watch it i hope they modify the story a little :D.
The movie represents not even 10% of what really happens in AS.
Much like I said in the overal impression threads, do not judge AS with such prejudice.

If you want to be spoiled badly, just check the spoilers threads, but be aware that AS is nothing as blunt as the movie.

[Ayumu Kasuga ^oSaKa^]

I just watched the Movie today, after completed the game...
The game just DESTROYED me especially when there's a requirement to view the TRUE ENDING. If anyone played the game, you already know what i'm talking about...

Regarding the movie... as a CLANNAD fan, 6 of 10 points, just coz' is Clannad...

Nagisa was so much cutter in the TV Series, in the movie she was... a lot more cheerful, i like more the frail and shy Nagisa.
Sonohara was just overpowered, it suits him well after all but not at all... and the strong bond of friendship in the movie with Tomoya.
I didn't like the alliance Kyou&Tomoyo... i don't know why...
Ibuki sensei... no coments... she's just a baddass
Yoshino, well... he's just a little more cherful
Naoyuki, he was more kind in the end than the TV Series.
Where's my Kotomi? >_< and Fuuko as well.
What happened with the Illusionary World? In the movie it was totally changed, it was so much darker.

One thing a liked about the movie, is the deep overview of Tomoya's life. That's all

I don't know what destiny awaits for Nagisa in the Second Season... i hope she lives... if she dies... i don't want even think about it.

That's all... sorry about my bad english.

[Ceral]

I liked the movie. Although not as entertaining as the TV series, I felt it had more meaning and more substance. The theme of family was very prominent and I felt the use of "Dango" throughout the movie really emphasized that.

I should probably say that it was my first time seeing After Story played out on a screen, I thought it had some power and drama that the TV series lacked in it's first season and since not having played the game but accidently reading spoilers from the character descriptions on Wiki, I felt there was a bit of a hole. I really wanted to get some sense of what after story was about after getting spoiled, the movie gave that to me (Although I get the sense that you gamers would completely disagree that the movie did any justice to Clannad).

After reading the spoilers, I got the sense that Clannad is one of those works that you shouldn't spoil yourself before watching/playing since it seems to be a very powerful and meaningful piece of art. (If you read the spoilers you would know, but I'm recommending you not to do that! :heh:) I think most everyone would agree given KyoAni's track record that they'll produce a superior version of Clannad's After Story.

That said, the movie definitely has spoilers. I would say stay away from anything Clannad :heh: and just wait for season two, you'll definitely run into a spoiler if you keep browsing through stuff.

[Guardian Enzo]

Yes, definitely spoiler city. But a pretty good effort, on the whole. Certainly better than I thought after all the negative reviews.

But why did Sunohara's hair randomly change color halfway through the movie? I know there was a time slip and all, but no explanation whatsoever.

[Moonie]

That's Sunohara's real hair color.

[Guardian Enzo]

Well, I thought that might be the case - but I guess in 90 minutes, you aren't going to get too many explanations...

[outcast_within]

Japanese people tend to not be natural blondes. So after your wacky highshool lives and when you enter a job world. you get your natural hair colour back.

Though this does not apply to females ofcourse since they have natural purples pinks silvers and greens.

I watched the series first and i expected the movie end about the time when the play ended. So i really didn't expect the aftermath with the depression's and death's and newborns. It was emotion heavy that last part. Will season 2's major plot be the birth of the child, nagisa's death and tomoyo's depression?

If so it's going to have a different tone as season 2. Movie was good but maybe i shouldn't have watched it before season two ended. Now i feel like i know what will happen in season two

[Kaisos Erranon]

I watched the series first and i expected the movie end about the time when the play ended. So i really didn't expect the aftermath with the depression's and death's and newborns. It was emotion heavy that last part. Will season 2's major plot be the birth of the child, nagisa's death and tomoyo's depression?

It will, but there's more to it than that. And yes, it does eventually have a happy ending.

Also, if KyoAni wants to explain a lot of the plot of After Story, they have to do at least two of the minor character's arcs.

[hero147]

Darn my curiosity, read something I wasnt suppose to, I hope season 2 would separate from the movie and have the family of 3 live a happy and long life...I just got out of Elfen Lied and came here for rufuge, the movie cant happen!!

[Defiled]

aaw... the movie is very very disappointing

not only the characteristic are different, almost all the touching facts are disappeared...

for example in the anime and game, nagisa doesn't know anythin about her parents pasts, but in the movie, she already knows it and doesn't feels even a bit bad about that, pretty much different from the anime and game

and another one first of all, okazaki's personality had a big bad changes, he looks more like a brat with stupid personality somewhat like a main boy stupid careless character (eg:maybe the main character of digimon 2? who he was again... i forgot his name :p)

then kyou and tomoyo, both of them now looks more like a pair of "soulmates", or maybe like a pair of lovers where always together anytime anywhere?... wait a minute, where's the hell is RYOU?? did she disappeared? and... is it just my imagination or is it really that kyou and tomoyo becomes a bit too soft?

and lastly, sunohara. in the movie, sunohara in the movie looks more better than in the anime or game, he looks more like an adult, have a part time job (which in the game he always search but never did a job), and he doesn't shows any reaction to other girls, just like he's somewhat gay or doesn't interested in girls.

and the most strange thing ever was, sunohara, kyou and tomoyo somewhat like "buddies" or rather "soulmates". they appeared like a "trio" ?? what the hell? isn't sunohara is supposed to be the one that was tortured by kyou and tomoyo? also, i didn't see sunohara gets bugged pretty much like in the game or anime does.

well, that's flaws in the movie about the personality...

and more, (i think this won't need any spoiler tags) in the movie, some characters are missing, like ryou, yukine, fuuko, and sadly, kotomi's only just a passer by, just like some unimportant characters that's only filling it's background.

also about the story, well, first of all, the main big difference is, maybe you that have watched it have recognized it, the dreamworld is very very different.
as i know, the dream world of the anime TV series and game are about a girl who left behind in a world that has been ended, and then she make a friend from junk, and then, and then (i know it'z a spoiler tag, but i think i shouldn't spoil it too much if nobody's asked)

but as you who watched see, the dreamworld of the movie is very different, it tells about a single person who always search of something
the main difference is the meaning of those dreamworld. for you who doesn't understand the meaning, try watch back, and try to compare it with the movie one. i won't tell the meanings if nobody's asked because the meanings could spoil almost everything

and... another big difference is about the drama club. the drama club was formed with almost no obstacles except those school council members, which only appears a bit, and then another one is, ibuki kouko isn't retired yet, still teaching, former drama club advisor, and going to be the advisor without much dificulities

and another bad sides of the movie besides the story side is, the graphics is somewhat bad, some movements are awkward

the good sides maybe just the story after the school life, even though maybe that's good for me because i haven't know that story yet, but, however, i still thinks that the movie is a big failure...

but for those who waits for the true story of the anime TV series or game, i'd say that the movie could spoil you pretty much on the afterstory because the movie hit one of the main points on the afterstory, even though some are different


and lastly, sorry if my english is bad

[Apache Thunder]

I watched this movie (and all of the tv series). And liked it.

It has a really sad ending though....But thats what I like most about this series, its the only show I ever watched that brought up real emotion in me. (I was in tears when watching the ending for this movie and a few episodes of the tv series)

I never played the game. So I'm un-familier with that aspect of it. At first I didn't know that it started out as a video game.....I have to say this is the best adaptation of any video game I've seen in terms of animation quality, plot line, charactors and such. Probably because the game was easy to translate to a show due to its nature.

I loved this show sad endings and all.

[MercFH]

Did anyone else like the animation better for clannad movie? than the tv series I mean?
(honestly just curious)

[Mirrinus]

I don't think I've ever recalled anyone saying that...although I've seen lots of people say the exact opposite. You'd be hard-pressed to find someone who thinks Toei has better animation quality than Kyoto Animation.

[MercFH]

I dont I was just wondering if anyone did LOl

edit: wow I rewatched........ the animation is a WHOLE lot worse

[kyon91]

The animation is much worse, but at least the story was good. I almost cried when Nagisa closed her eyes T_T. Going to play the game!

[Harimo Haria]

The movie couldn't compare to the series but it was still entertaining nonetheless. It was confusing at first how they were shifting timelines but, I understood at the end and I was truly touched by how Ushio said papa.

[Leo_Otaku]

I just went to watch the movie finally....:twitch:

What was that....

I could tell before the movie was released by clips that Nagisa was really different. They skipped her personality growth....

Everyone pretty much said it....

Plus side:

Music- It was good to hear some new pieces and varies of arrangments. I really liked alot of the BGM.

ummm... dunno 0_o what else was really good....

Minus:

Character personality changes: Like why??? Why do they all have to be buddy buddy?

Illusionary World Change: Eww this was the worst! I love the entire concept of the real illusionary world. What the hell was this? A circus clown on a bike 0_o...gets points for being creepy but not a cool creepy. What was with that wedding dress?

and everyone else summed up the rest what was that???!!!

[therationalpi]

Just finished watching the movie version. I watched the series first (a few times now, while evangelizing the virtues of the series to my friends) and finished playing through the game about a month ago. In truth, the movie was quite disappointing. The Visual novel itself is quite long, and I wondered how they could shrink even a single arc into a two hour movie. In truth, they can't. There was just too much in Nagisa's arc to do justice in those two hours. Thus, they had to radically change the story to accommodate the time allotment.

However, there are some things that I think make for a good adaptation. First off, you have to maintain the general sense of the characters and story. However, while the movie does give you the general gist of Nagisa's arc, it wildly changes the characters of almost everyone involved. Also, you have to directly adapt parts of the original story so people can see them played out. Yet, there were no exchanges or events that are directly taken from the game. The meeting on the hill, changed; the lunch in the courtyard, totally different and switched to the roof; the illusionary world, unrecognizable. Most of these could be reasonable adapted, though the character changes would have made them hard to swallow, but they were not.

As someone going into the movie wanting to see a few of my favorite scenes from a different perspective, I was not very pleased. However, the movie wasn't that bad. It was as good as can be expected from an impossible project, distilling Clannad to 90 minutes. But don't see it unless you've already read the entire visual novel, lest you spoil yourself.

[FireChick]

I FINALLY watched the whole movie! I loved it!!:D

[Vegard Aune]

However, the movie wasn't that bad. It was as good as can be expected from an impossible project, distilling Clannad to 90 minutes. But don't see it unless you've already read the entire visual novel, lest you spoil yourself.
I agree. I didn't dislike the movie or anything, but having already seen the TV-series, I can easily say that the movie is inferior in every possible way. It DID, however, increase my anticipation for After Story, as I did find the last 30 minutes of the movie pretty touching, and I can only assume that the TV-series will do an even better job with it.

[Ryu-kun]

I just seen the movie well it could have been done better but this is alright enough for me since it gives some insights that the anime doesn't have.

[Littm]

Just wait for the AS and you will see the real mindblowing story.

[Ryu-kun]

Just wait for the AS and you will see the real mindblowing story.

I seen it before in the game. :D

[Eddward]

I saw the movie yesterday, Prolly what I shouldn't have done. I feel like I've been totaly f*cked of spoiling.

For some reason I have my doubt that they will do the same ending as it was in the movie. As it will be in the "After Story". but who knows, we that watch the After Story at the moment are at Episode 12 so we'll all see. :).

Tho I really, really hope that Nagisa wont die in the end.

Also thinking back on Kanon they made the first serie which was bad (as I've heard) Haven't seen it myself but I'm going to watch it asap. They made a re-newed version of it and that one was great. They might change some stuffs in Clannad aswell due tho people disliked the end of the movie. (who knows).

[Beo]

Think of the movie as sort of a preview. A lot of it came from pieces from the series but there were certain alteration to the story line to make the movie fit together.


That had to be changed from the imaginary world to a common dream between the two. The imaginary world would not make sense unless it had the whole series wrapped around it leading to real ending.


But now you will have to figure out what pieces were used from the series and which are the unique ones for the movie only. Surprises are still to be had.

[-Sho-]

So in the end of the movie Nagisa die ? and do she give birth a baby ? what Tomoya do ?

[Ithekro]

If you are watching he episodic Clannad After Story...The movie ends about at the same place as AS episode 18. It is in no way the same...but the resolution aspect of the story from the film ends at that point.

It isn't a bad movie. The elder Ibuki is rather bad ass in the movie.
It just isn't as good as the full length version currently on the air...because it is rather hard to condense a 90 hour VN into 90 minutes. KyoAni has managed so far to do a fair job with the 18 hours or so they have to present all of Clannad.

[Aqualung]

Is it better to watch the end of Clannad After Story first? Episode 21 was another heart breaker. :upset:

[Jimmy C]

If you've waited this long, you can wait another 7 days

[Ithekro]

As noted slightly earlier, the movies ending ends earlier in the story than the current After Story. If you have seen up to After Story episode 21 you have seen more story than what is in the Movie.

[Aqualung]

Thanks, I'll go ahead and finish the movie. I watched up to where Nagisa first brings Tomoya to her home, to discuss the drama club. The art and animation are excellent, but I prefer the seiyu they had for Tomoya in Clannad and After Story. It's funny how they had all of the other voices, except for his.

[Aqualung]

I just watched the movie. Very nice, but I still don't like the seiyu they used for Tomoya in the movie.

[therationalpi]

Thanks, I'll go ahead and finish the movie. I watched up to where Nagisa first brings Tomoya to her home, to discuss the drama club. The art and animation are excellent, but I prefer the seiyu they had for Tomoya in Clannad and After Story. It's funny how they had all of the other voices, except for his.The Visual Novel had a voiced version with all of the characters except for the male lead (Who you play as) speaking their parts. This is a fairly common convention. The movie and the television series were both adapted from the VN by separate studios, starting at around the same time. Naturally, they had different views on the character and who should be voicing him.

I, too, prefer the Okazaki Tomoya from Clannad TV.

[DeX-kun]

Yuuichi Nakamura is amazing and his voice acting was superb in my opinion. The VA from the movie felt too bland. To be honest, I didn't really like the movie especially because of how different Youhei (Sunohara) is. The movie itself felt too dark and the art work wasn't all that great, the VA's for Nagisa and all the side characters have improved substantially compared to their voice acting in the movie. The TV series really did an amazing job with the plot and I can proudly say that this is one of my favorite anime I've seen thus far. The movie was mediocre at best, but that's from my perspective :p

[Tak]

Yuuichi Nakamura is amazing and his voice acting was superb in my opinion. The VA from the movie felt too bland.

Interestingly enough, most of the VAs for the movie returned to VA for the TV series.

Nakamura was one of the biggest change, though, and I felt it was a good choice. Although we cannot discredit his predecessor, for he not only VAed the movie, but also the drama CDs, which are very good.

- Tak

[Proto]

Hmm... well, in fact the cast, sans Tomoya was the one they had already selected for the voice game version, and considering what Toei/KyoAni has done with their previous parallel adaptations, I guess it was to be expected....

[Tak]

Hmm... well, in fact the cast, sans Tomoya was the one they had already selected for the voice game version, and considering what Toei/KyoAni has done with their previous parallel adaptations, I guess it was to be expected....

One of the biggest surprise to me from the VAs was actually Mai Nakahara. Thing is, she was Mai Hime, and Nagisa is just a totally opposite character, totally timid.

- Tak (Then again, my favorite VA, Naomi Shindou, can also do wonders with her voice, but we will leave that for another time)

[DeX-kun]

One of the biggest surprise to me from the VAs was actually Mai Nakahara. Thing is, she was Mai Hime, and Nagisa is just a totally opposite character, totally timid.

- Tak (Then again, my favorite VA, Naomi Shindou, can also do wonders with her voice, but we will leave that for another time)

Oh I know you had a sudden urge to go into one of those praising rants XD It happens when one mentions their favorite anything ;) Nagisa's VA did a good job though, she expressed Nagisa's character very well. I was actually surprised how much she had improved since the movie but then again, I shouldn't be right? Considering it's been what? 2 or 3 years since the movie? :heh:

[ershin]

does anyone have the mkv version from AQS-TWH-Sprocket? If you do can you please do me a favor, post or pm me their subs/fonts? I can't find a ddl link for their movie :( And i can't use torrents... Tnx :)

[Kagedanji]

The only thing this movie has over the TV series is combat teacher Kouko, though she wasn't even supposed to be there half the time.

[TCman]

I have watched Clannad the Movie several months ago. I guess it was okay, but in my opinion the movie is way too fragmented, flashbacks here, flashbacks there, suddenly this and suddenly that; because the fragmentation of plots and story the movie is quite confusing to watch. It's the same with Air the Movie, it's also too fragmented. The TV series is far consistent in terms of pacing and composition.

The anime movie creators did add the scene where Tomoya get hurt by his father, the reason he can't play basketball anymore - in the TV series it's only mentioned.

[Miyuki-ism]

I sort of like how his injury was only mentioned, sort of put the feeling of that you knew he got hurt (both emotionally and physically) but it was always sort of a mystery, you could only imagine how bad it was.

[DeX-kun]

I sort of like how his injury was only mentioned, sort of put the feeling of that you knew he got hurt (both emotionally and physically) but it was always sort of a mystery, you could only imagine how bad it was.

I'd also have to agree with this, because it also added another layer to Tomoya's character at that point. It also made us understand why Tomoya resented his father so much and what I enjoyed about the TV series rather than the movie is that Tomoya's father wasn't a bad parent in reality.

[Aqua Knight]

Is it worth watching?

[Miyuki-ism]

If you really want too, I don't care if it's about 30 episodes fit into a movie, I still don't like it too much. Plus they ruined the dango song.

[chikorita157]

Amazed on how Toei manage to fit a long visual novel into a 90 minute movie, but I was still disappointed, due to the fact that the animation reminded me of Kanon 2002, but not as bad... This is because I'm so used to Kyoto Animation's design for their characters that I forgot all the sudden.

The way they handle the pregnancy scene was anti-climatic and I felt that it could be done better than it supposed to. The problem with this and the other adaptations Toei did was not that faithful to the visual novel and there is alot of made up content (primarily because of the time constraints). The movie was good, but I'm still left disappointed because they could have done better.

Overall Rating: 6.8/10 -> 7/10, D+, Average

Full review of Clannad Movie and thoughts on my Blog (http://chikorita157.notcliche.com/?p=1936)

[Archon_Wing]

Well I'll just say one thing about the movie when I tried watching it.

It is very... bright, almost like someone's following them with a spotlight or something. AHHH!! :D

[DeX-kun]

Well I'll just say one thing about the movie when I tried watching it.

It is very... bright, almost like someone's following them with a spotlight or something. AHHH!! :D

Yeah, I couldn't quite get into the movie. I did try watching it but the characters felt bland. It just didn't feel right.

[Chami-sensei]

I watched the movie a few days ago, awhile after finishing the TV season. I was shocked at first at how different the characters were but mostly Nagisa. After getting over that shock and trying to view the film without comparing it the film did become enjoyable, sure not as good as the TV series but worth watching.

I didn't mind most the story changes and actually liked what they did with the other world since the original story would have no chance of fitting let alone make sense in that time frame. Toei did overdo the background effects though, which was sometimes jarring. The dango song while different was more cheery which did fit this version of Nagisa.

Overall it was a good movie but one should try not to compare since the TV series is better almost everyway but due to spoilers in the movie the TV series should be watched first for a better experience. My favourite change had to be Tomoya's dad though.
I liked how he played a part in Tomoya's recovery in this and how the trip was his idea and how he arranged it since in the TV series he was arguably an unimportant character. I don't think he did much involving the trip in the anime unless I missed something.

[chikorita157]

Well I'll just say one thing about the movie when I tried watching it.

It is very... bright, almost like someone's following them with a spotlight or something. AHHH!! :D

I noticed that alot... Why Toei Animation decided to use so much light? It almost look like the ending of Kano and Minagi's arc in Air which they use alot of light, but not nearly as much as Toei does...

Also, the split screens are annoying a little bit.

Makes me wonder, should I even bother with the Air movie after watching what Toei did to the Clannad movie?

[Chami-sensei]

Makes me wonder, should I even bother with the Air movie after watching what Toei did to the Clannad movie?

Just to save space, no spoilers:

I think it's worth looking at, I know some people preferred the movie to the anime. It's been awhile since I watched it so I may be wrong but I don't remember Toei overdoing effects too much though they did change characters personalities in a similar way they did to the Clannad movie.

However I loved the series and disliked the movie while my friends disliked the anime and liked the movie but I think they liked how the movie (arguably) made more sense.

Try to watch it without comparing and try to enjoy it as it is otherwise you will be disappointed, it's impossible for a VN daptation to be 90min and still be faithful.

I prefer the Clannad movie over the Air one but dislike the way both of them ended though for opposite reasons.

[ginytah]

I noticed that alot... Why Toei Animation decided to use so much light? It almost look like the ending of Kano and Minagi's arc in Air which they use alot of light, but not nearly as much as Toei does...

Also, the split screens are annoying a little bit.

Makes me wonder, should I even bother with the Air movie after watching what Toei did to the Clannad movie?

Air movie is awesome. watch it. personally, I liked it more than the anime, but that's just my opinion ;)

[Archon_Wing]

I noticed that alot... Why Toei Animation decided to use so much light? It almost look like the ending of Kano and Minagi's arc in Air which they use alot of light, but not nearly as much as Toei does...

Also, the split screens are annoying a little bit. The screencap on your blog is a good example. Hard to judge a movie when you can't see lots of it. :heh:

Makes me wonder, should I even bother with the Air movie after watching what Toei did to the Clannad movie?

It's too bright as well, but not as bad. The screencap for your blog shows exactly what is wrong with the Clannad movie. Hard to like a movie you can't really see. ;)


I thought Mizuzu looked better in the movie. The two other heroines, Minagi and Kano aren't touched upon at all, which is quite jarring to fans of the two. However, it can be said that one of Air TV's weaknesses was that it couldn't really integrate the three stories together and thus was really disjointed and never really came together. Thus, focusing only on the main story did help the movie. It does, however, link the medieval story with Kanna better.

The nature of the story has been changed to a romantic relationship and the supernatural parts downplayed by a lot. This makes it end up a very different story. Overall, I'd say it's simply different and both are good in their own way. As opposed to Clannad TV vs the movie where the movie is somewhat redundant and is mostly a movie that happens to feature Clannad characters.

I will say one thing good about the Clannad Movie, and that it may be good for people who didn't like the tv series that much.

For those of you that didn't like how Clannad TV turned out, this alternate telling may be more suitable for you.

[FireChick]

I wonder if this movie is gonna be licensed? Or, if we're lucky, DUBBED (unlike the series, which has suffered the tragedy of a lack of a dub). Carrie Savage would make a GREAT Nagisa!:D

[mammothb]

i just watched CLANNAD the movie. i took some time to accept the changes in the character drawing. the first meeting of nagisa and tomoya at the bottom of the hill still got me teary. but that was pretty much it. maybe i had some biased opinion after watching the toei ver. of kanon and KyoAni's ver. of kanon. the rest of the clannad movie was not as touching as i had hoped it to be.

but there 2 plus points i liked about the movie, the rushing of people when it's lunch break(somehow they always say people rush to lunch but it was kind of hard for me to imagine it, now that they animated it, it solved my prob). another was how tomoya's father played a part in helping him get better. i feel it's more appropriate this way, since the father is older(with more experience in life) to guide tomoya instead of the original way where tomoya helped his father.

[Knightrunner]

I like the anime better than the movie. in the movie Tomoya is just very depressing. I don't know what Nagisa saw in that guy in the movie.

[Khu]

Anime > Movie.

From these at least. lol. XD

[Khu]

So I grabbed a box version of Clannad, Clannad AS and Clannad the Movie (with free Soundtrack! :D) and frankly they KILLED THE HILL!

IT'S NO LONGER A FUCKING HILL!

IT LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING PINK HIGHLY DRAMATIC WIND AND GLOWY ROAD!

And the characters look retarded...

And the story is screwd up too.

[Archon_Wing]

Honestly, when I saw it, there was really only one thing I got from:

LENS FLARE. Plus I like how Kyou and Tomoyo randomly show up to meet them later, even though there is no suggestion whatsoever that they are friends. And Ryou doesn't exist. I understand she's not that important and nobody really cared about the poor girl in the anime, but still!

[relentlessflame]

So I grabbed a box version of Clannad, Clannad AS and Clannad the Movie (with free Soundtrack! :D) That sounds real legal... :heh: (Assuming you mean that you found a box with all of the above in it, which I suspect doesn't legally exist. I'm guessing it's also region 0...)

[kitten320]

I had seen movie moments ago and somehow it was lacking :(

Basicly it was a short re-tail of 2 seasons with slight modifications.

Ryou being completly ignored was sad, Kotomi also by some reason happened to be conductor 0_o

Was nice to see Sunohara/Tomoyo/Tomoya communicate with each other though... but somehow movie was lacking for me.

7/10...

[Khu]

That sounds real legal... :heh: (Assuming you mean that you found a box with all of the above in it, which I suspect doesn't legally exist. I'm guessing it's also region 0...)

No, seriously, I did.

It was in Malaysia...

So I got English, Chinese and Malay subs for it. ^^

[darktruth]

Malaysia is known to be the bootleg capital when it comes to DVDs. The sticker of Malaysian Classification Board on the DVD cases is also fake while the DVD itself and contents (english subtitles in particular) are very dodgy. Many bootleggers use the stickers to claim it's authentic but in reality it isn't since they get the stickers from some dodgy source and just slap it on the DVD cases, it's happened with hundreds of animes and I'm sure movies from the west and such too.

There's a link a below on a guide to spot bootleg DVDs since your previous post described how messed up your "boxed" version of the Clannad series and movies were (which I assume you didn't want to get - you're not a supporter of bootleggers are you?)

How to spot bootleg anime DVDs (http://www.anime-source.com/banzai/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1770)

[Khu]

Sequel DVD release from the hit anime series "CLANNED."

And you're telling me about dodgy subtitles? XD

http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=PCBE-53101

[darktruth]

Pretty sad you had to use a item description on an online shop to refute that as to one that's actually on the DVD, besides there isn't even any subs on the DVD :P, anyway my point is if you're gonna buy anime DVDs at least buy it from official companies or licensors than from dodgy asian bootlegs. Fair enough if it's your first time as you may be unaware but try to actually support the people who make and produce the anime than support bootleggers who just steal from them and make their own profits.

[Toddler Naruto]

Source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-11-13/sentai-filmworks-adds-clannad-anime-film

David Williams of the North American anime distributor Sentai Filmworks confirmed on the AnimeOnDVD forums that his company will release the Clannad anime film with English dubbing and subtitles next March.

The company originally made this announcement at Izumicon this weekend.

I am so excited ^_^, I'll finally be able to start watching Clannad soon :D.

(I will not watch S1 Dub & S2 Dub until Movie Dub is out)

[SJCrew]

That David Mataranga guy or whatever his name is needs to do a better job this time around, or hire someone else. He was a bad voice actor from the beginning of the series right up to the end. And Greg Ayares as Sunohora....ugh.

Clannad was just not meant to be dubbed. Or if it was...not by these guys.

[MeoTwister5]

I once again reiterate that Nagisa can only ever sound like Nakahara Mai.

[DeX-kun]

I once again reiterate that Nagisa can only ever sound like Nakahara Mai.

QFT :heh:

No offense to the american VA but Mai Nakahara is just better in so many ways. I was also impressed by Mai's improvement after voicing Nagisa in the the movie. In the movie, Nagisa's voice felt as bland as her character but Nagisa from the TV series had a subtle growth in not just her character, but her voice as well.

[SJCrew]

Nagisa's character in the movie wasn't bland at all. She made a profound impact on everyone she met and basically carried the entire movie. Her drive and determination were both infectious and adorable, which compelled everyone around her to help her achieve her goals, and compelled me to keep watching (lol).

I'd watch the movie again just as a reminder of how awesome she is. A series rewatch would be a lot harder for me to stomach.

[DeX-kun]

Nagisa's character in the movie wasn't bland at all. She made a profound impact on everyone she met and basically carried the entire movie. Her drive and determination were both infectious and adorable, which compelled everyone around her to help her achieve her goals, and compelled me to keep watching (lol).

Ironically enough, this is exactly what I think about Nagisa in the TV series and not the movie. Although the impact in the TV series was more of a combination between Tomoya and Nagisa. Like I've said before, the movie isn't necessarily bad but rather intrinsically different from it's TV counterpart. Some will enjoy the movie while others won't (such as myself,) but naturally the movie had to take some liberties considering how much content had to be condensed into an hour and a half.

Character-wise, the movie had it's own differences but Mai Nakahara didn't help any with her sub-par acting (in which I believe she improved on quite a bit in the TV series.) I can agree with Nagisa (I.e. - TV Series) being bland up to the end of the first season but the second season had such amazing subtle development. It might not have been substantial but it was certainly an impressive growth in character.

Aside from just the characters though, there were plenty of other areas where I felt the TV series did a much better job. Music and music placement is one that comes to mind right away and the comedy as well. Even so I have to admit the movie did do it's best with pacing.

I'd watch the movie again just as a reminder of how awesome she is. A series rewatch would be a lot harder for me to stomach.

It's funny that you mention this. Actually Nagisa isn't all that different in the movie than she is in the TV series. The real difference lies in how her development was spread out in the second season of the TV series (subtlety) in contrast with her development from the movie (direct.)

[MeoTwister5]

Nagisa carried the entire second season on her frail, small shoulders, ever after episode 16. The second statement is something you rarely see in any series.

[SJCrew]

Nagisa carried the entire second season on her frail, small shoulders, ever after episode 16. The second statement is something you rarely see in any series.

Nope, sorry, that was Ushio. If AS didn't have Ushio, S1 would definitely be better.

[Hooves]

I believe the only time Nagisa was not around in AS was about 1-2 episodes... Even after episode 16, she was mentioned from time to time to tell fans to remember Nagisa forever more. But Ushio is taking her place for the parts.

[DasDingus]

Nope, sorry, that was Ushio. If AS didn't have Ushio, S1 would definitely be better.

Episodes 17-21 of After Story were as much about Tomoya struggling with his regret about meeting Nagisa as anything. Ushio was merely a physical representation of his relationship with Nagisa. When Tomoya rejected Ushio and the Furukawa family it was his way of saying he wishes he never met Nagisa. He regretted all the pain he was going through due to his loss and pushed away everything that represented it.

His acceptance of Ushio was also his acceptance of everything he had gained during his time with Nagisa and his acceptance of his loss. He accepted Ushio and reconciled with his father both to avoid making the same mistakes his father made but also to allow Nagisa's legacy to live on. At the end of episode 18 we see Tomoya and Ushio facing Nagisa with Tomoya's voice over saying "Nagisa I found it. I finally found it. Something only I can protect. The precious thing only I can protect. It was right here." We see here that Tomoya's actions were influenced very much by Nagisa. It's his way of saying "I wasn't able to protect you, but I will continue to protect Ushio because that's what you would have wanted." Then in episode 22 Tomoya is rewarded for having the strength to accept his loss and not regretting meeting Nagisa on the hill by having her restored to him by Ushio through the light orbs.

My point is that, despite not being alive at the time, Nagisa was as important a character as Tomoya or Ushio or anyone else during those episodes of After Story.

[SJCrew]

True, Nagisa did have a profound impact on the series metaphysically, but the fact that they happened in the manifestation of Ushio and basically every situation surrounding her puts Ushio in the driving seat of the emotion for the second half of the series. I felt when Ushio cried and when she died. Nothing Nagisa did in the first half had a profound impact on me. I wasn't very happy when she died, though, I'll admit.