View Full Version : Linkin Park's Minutes to Midnight
-KarumA-
2007-03-16, 04:56
okay the new album was released in stores yesterday, im listening to it right now feeling a little dissapointed...
for starters as we all know and love LP as it usually uses rap together with vocals with guitars and some damn good riff rafing in between...
first thing i noticed was that on this cd there are hardly any real LP styled songs.. it sounds more like normal hard rock, as in a non djing and no rapping and without those it feels like LP is just lost entirely... i felt so excited when i heard a new album was coming up but now i find LP a little boring mostly because the vibe that held fans to listen to it over and over again is gone...
has anyone else had this feeling...
why ooh why has my first and most favorite rockband taken the course to dust and failure... :(
Well, I haven’t heard this CD, but I pretty much had an Idea when you explained the changes, its kind of suck in someway.
And yes I have felt the same feeling with my first and Former Favorite RockBand.
Green Day, They were my Favorite and I can say my firs Rock Experince, but after Nimrod, they took a very different and commercial approach to their music, so I ended up loosing the interest in them, Needless to say, I haven’t heard Gren Day Cds after Nimrod, and I’m not interested either.
azupanda
2007-03-16, 11:03
Wait WHAT!? Their new CD I thought was coming out May 15th in the US and the 14th in other countries.
How did you manage to get your hands on it..... Explain!
~Panda
-KarumA-
2007-03-16, 14:34
Wait WHAT!? Their new CD I thought was coming out May 15th in the US and the 14th in other countries.
How did you manage to get your hands on it..... Explain!
~Panda
yes i was wondering about this as well... i did some research about this and found out that people have been spreading out a fake album by the same name, however the last song is still a LP song preformed in Japan at their live show Qwerty was quite good, though it was much mor eheavy, but i am still worried about wether or not LP is going on a new lane of music or if it will still use their old music
also the first LP TV, promotion for the newest album has been released, the music used int he background inthe end of the clip is from their newer releases.. but it sounds more metal than what fans would be used to...
a friend of mine send me the album, it was quite stupid that i even fell for it rofl
azupanda
2007-03-16, 15:05
Knowing LP, I think that they will not disappoint. It might be something new from them, but I think they will do it just fine.
~Panda
-KarumA-
2007-03-16, 15:20
Knowing LP, I think that they will not disappoint. It might be something new from them, but I think they will do it just fine.
~Panda
i surely hope so.. after all this time between Meteora and their new album one would almost forget about their excistence..
Wait WHAT!? Their new CD I thought was coming out May 15th in the US and the 14th in other countries.
How did you manage to get your hands on it..... Explain!
~Panda
It's actually been quite a while that i've been getting new albums before they are released (for example, Dimmu Borgir are releasing a new album in April 28 in Europe and i already have it ).
Some get them from Orkut communities, ppl there say that south american countries get all stuff earlier. The version i believe is that the album is given to a small amount of people who write reviews and somehow the songs leak out from them.
On topic,
If they are not going to make something that follows the line of Meteora (and Reanimation), they are lost. Those albums are the ones that best describe this band.
PS.
I no longer have absolutely any interest in LP whatsoever. The only memory i still have of them is the album Hybrid Theory, which was the first original album i bought.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-03-18, 01:57
How exactly is a Screamo band related to anime music just out of interest? I don't think anything they've done anything that has ever been featured in an anime or anything related to anime. I mean other than their song "In The End" being used in just about every unofficial Anime Music Video on the planet and that one music video they did for Breaking The Habit that was animated by Gonzo. Still its a pretty darn loose relation and it's more like anime has been related to Linking Park by chance than Linkin Park is related to anime.
Maybe ya'll should mosey on over to the General Chat forum for this one, I don't know. :thinker:
killmoms
2007-03-21, 13:32
Maybe this forum shouldn't be "anime music," thereby imparting the false notion that music from anime is the only music worth talking about. Then again, this is a thread about Linkin Park, for Christ's sake, so... the idea that we're discussing music at all is a bit ridiculous.
Also, Linkin Park are not screamo. At all. In any way shape or form. Try to learn about genres before spouting off about them and making yourself look like an idiot.
-KarumA-
2007-03-21, 15:56
How exactly is a Screamo band related to anime music just out of interest? I don't think anything they've done anything that has ever been featured in an anime or anything related to anime. I mean other than their song "In The End" being used in just about every unofficial Anime Music Video on the planet and that one music video they did for Breaking The Habit that was animated by Gonzo. Still its a pretty darn loose relation and it's more like anime has been related to Linking Park by chance than Linkin Park is related to anime.
Maybe ya'll should mosey on over to the General Chat forum for this one, I don't know. :thinker:
it was in Geneal chat but it was moved here after i posted it... i found it strange as well, since this is the ANIME music section and LP doesnt do any JROCK so far as i know... the only relationship they have is their gravity style rofl
HurricaneHige
2007-03-21, 20:46
LP really isnt that good imo...emo-ish tbh
The album isn't out yet , so don't spoil it, and I doubt their songs will suck.. they've always lived to expectations.. although I heard this album was going to be a different sort of style.
HurricaneHige: Sucks, you don't even like any of their songs? You must be pretty picky.
Kaioshin_Sama: Haha I agree, In the End was so friggin overused. Oh well =S
all LP songs have been overused :)
Can't wait for the New Album. Been listening to Shinoda's Fort Minor album to tide me over for the time being.
also, LP emo-ish? Since when? :P
The forum title and subtitle plainly state that the section is for asian-based music (anime, jpop, jrock, etc) BUT ... in daily practice and reality, the mods move any music-related threads over here.
I tried getting them to just change the title and subtitle of the forum since they were doing that but to no avail.
So carry on :)
-KarumA-
2007-03-22, 13:22
The forum title and subtitle plainly state that the section is for asian-based music (anime, jpop, jrock, etc) BUT ... in daily practice and reality, the mods move any music-related threads over here.
I tried getting them to just change the title and subtitle of the forum since they were doing that but to no avail.
So carry on :)
there's no real trouble for it to be here, so dont worry too much thanks for asking anyway ^^
and as for producing, yes this year theres someone else budging in on the producement, together with Mike we have Rick Rubin, who has worked with Audioslave, Rage Against The Machine, System Of A Down, Slipknot, AC/DC, Shakira and Jay-Z
it should be interesting if theres a soad/rage against the machines vibe to this one. Ill definetly give it a listen
Kaioshin Sama
2007-03-22, 23:56
all LP songs have been overused :)
Can't wait for the New Album. Been listening to Shinoda's Fort Minor album to tide me over for the time being.
also, LP emo-ish? Since when? :P
Screamo, its the only thing I could attribute to the lead singers insistance on wailing with unpleasant background accompaniment. I don't have any idea what they do to make that unpleasant droning noise that is supposed to pass as the instrumental portions of their songs, but it sounds horrible. I also don't see how the lead singer screeching and elongating parts of his song is supposed to be pleasant or relaxing, which is what I always thought was the reason people listened to music for, relaxation and pleasure.
It really wouldn't bother me at all though if I didn't have to listen to them every night at maximum volume, same CD at work while working extremely hard and suffering a headache from it. Now as a result of classical conditioning, no matter where I hear it I feel pain in my forehead. That caused me to hold them as my most hated and despised band of all time. It would also be nice to have a music video I could watch, but since 99% of them seem to be Breaking The Habit, In The End or one of their other songs I can't remember, you know even if it doesn't fit the series at all, that is all but impossible unless I want a headache.
Music is supposed to be different. What is relaxing to you, may not be the case for someone else. Different strokes for different folks really. Also, it doesn't always have to be relaxing. Some music is supposed to get you pumped, get your head banging, the blood flowing, etc. :)
I'm not a big fan of screaming either, but I can deal with it. If he is just screaming at the top of his lungs the whole song, then I probably won't listen. Either they mix it with Shinoda rapping, or Chester will mix the screaming with his normal singing voice.
Still, LP music is overused. Can't tell you how many AMV's are out there that have LP songs. Geez, at least try to be different..
Nishi`Joichiro
2007-03-24, 03:50
Linkin park is alright,i use to like them alot when they first came out though my opinion on them has changed since i was 14,though i dislike the new single since it sounds alot like something from meteora.
oh well.
therethere
2007-03-25, 02:55
i remember listening to linkin park when i was 14 and thinking "what the fuck is this shit they call music?" Now I'm 22 and guess what? Nothing's changed.
I am yet to buy the cd In their heyday Linkin Park was good hope they can create the same magic now
They released the lead single from Minutes to Midnight, called What I've done.
You can listen to it on their Myspace page,
http://www.myspace.com/linkinpark
What? No Shinoda... I thought that's what they were known for, their mix with rap.
What? No Shinoda... I thought that's what they were known for, their mix with rap.
Shinoda does more in the band than just rap, he's probably the one that plays the keyboard part. Hard to tell without seeing them performing it.
Remember songs like Crawling, Breaking a Habit or Numb?
Edit: Just saw the MV, and Shinoda is one of the guitarist in this song.
Yeah... Mr. Han is behind the electric keyboard. I know he's still in there I was wondering he doesn't do his partial rap for LP anymore.
Probably saving his lyrics for the next Fort Minor album.
He did in the new song Qwerty, however, I don't know if that song is apart of the new album.
I heard oledi its preview song "What I've Done", there's no shout, but nice.
Shiori-chan
2007-04-04, 18:16
what I've done is pretty good, although chester kinda looks like bono in the video clip, the clip is well made and gives alot of comment on our society
linkin park is back ^^
http://videoclips.blog.nl/rock/2007/04/03/nieuwe-video-linkin-park-what-i-ve-done
madfox357
2007-04-05, 15:53
okay the new album was released in stores yesterday, im listening to it right now feeling a little dissapointed...
for starters as we all know and love LP as it usually uses rap together with vocals with guitars and some damn good riff rafing in between...
first thing i noticed was that on this cd there are hardly any real LP styled songs.. it sounds more like normal hard rock, as in a non djing and no rapping and without those it feels like LP is just lost entirely... i felt so excited when i heard a new album was coming up but now i find LP a little boring mostly because the vibe that held fans to listen to it over and over again is gone...
has anyone else had this feeling...
why ooh why has my first and most favorite rockband taken the course to dust and failure... :(
NO,NO,NO
Thats not the real linkin park minutes to midnight album that's chesters old band and that was the promo album
SpecterVR
2007-04-06, 04:39
I heard (from various sources mind you) that the album was supposed to be largely influenced by prog rock. I heard a 30 second sample a few weeks ago (I'm not sure when so bear with me) and was embarassed I ever listened to it.
I may check out the video and all that other nonsense, but from the looks of it, it seems that was ALL hype. Bwahahahaha.
I was a fan of Linkin Park when I was younger...much younger. It faded into dust really quick. ;)
Yeah bla bla.. linkin park is so emo... bla bla.. linkin park are commercial sellouts bla bla.. all the music you like sucks... bla bla... linkin park is not even music... bla bla... its not even nu-metal.. bla bla... its just pop bla bla...
Whatever. I like Linkin Park. I don't need to boost the size of my E-penis by listing my favorite underground bands that no one has ever heard off.
To me Linkin Park has made some awesome songs. I like their sound. I like PoA, One Step Closer, Numb, Breaking the Habit, Faint and In the End.
I don't mind if they change. Bands need to have diversity and change and evolve and sometimes it results in worse albums and sometimes better albums. Thats just the way of the beast:)=
killmoms
2007-04-06, 15:35
Whatever. I like Linkin Park. I don't need to boost the size of my E-penis by listing my favorite underground bands that no one has ever heard off.
Lawl. It's not about boosting your e-penis. It's about listening to music that isn't watered down dreck. It's about listening to music that has some artistic soul, instead of being 100% commercial garbage intended to attract (and extract money from) a specific demographic. It's about choosing your culture instead of having your culture chosen for you by the big five media conglomerates. There's plenty of "angry" music that's legitimately good, across a lot of different genres, that wasn't hand-picked by a record executive looking to court the "angry teenage boy" market segment.
Saber Cherry
2007-04-06, 20:08
I just listened to a few tracks from Minutes to Midnight. Sounds like generic angry male rants set to generic metal background.
Shiori-chan
2007-04-09, 10:45
album u listened too is a fake, not even lp singing ^^
-KarumA-
2007-04-10, 05:59
album u listened too is a fake, not even lp singing ^^
after hearing tons of people saying it and after finding out minutes later after posting it i think i get the point *feels as if this will haunt her till the end of her days*
i heard their new song a couple weeks ago.. i didnt like it to be honest.. i can stand listening to it but there's something strange about it.. wether it's the constant singing of Chester without many raps... or because i missed the rif rafs. they had some but not as much as i would want to hear... however it is already a bit of a hype here now ont he radio, because they will preform on mainstage on Pinkpop (im going.. not only because of them.. but also due KoRn, MM and smashing pumpkins)... im more curious about their next single than this one :)
I bought the track last Saturday. Their good, but I wonder why the added profanity to it now. I bought the way without it. My favorite song on the their album is Leave Out All The Rest.
Linkin Park...usually they would be something I wouldn't pay much attention to, just another bad band. But by being exposed to their shit almost every day because of my brother I grew to hate them, gnahh.
Tatsumiko
2007-05-23, 14:09
Linkin Park...usually they would be something I wouldn't pay much attention to, just another bad band. But by being exposed to their shit almost every day because of my brother I grew to hate them, gnahh.
Guess here's the proof that Linkin Park haters can also post in this thread...^^"
Well I had to listen to their album for four hours while going to a friends place...and it didnt bother me at all ^^
So thats when I can say I really like their music.
Linkin Park said that they were tired of people mixing them in with the rock and rap group. They said, they wanted to be known for what they do best: make music.
LucidLucifer
2007-08-31, 01:31
okay the new album was released in stores yesterday, im listening to it right now feeling a little dissapointed...
for starters as we all know and love LP as it usually uses rap together with vocals with guitars and some damn good riff rafing in between...
first thing i noticed was that on this cd there are hardly any real LP styled songs.. it sounds more like normal hard rock, as in a non djing and no rapping and without those it feels like LP is just lost entirely... i felt so excited when i heard a new album was coming up but now i find LP a little boring mostly because the vibe that held fans to listen to it over and over again is gone...
has anyone else had this feeling...
why ooh why has my first and most favorite rockband taken the course to dust and failure... :(
I have to agree, I was severly disappointed with this album, I only liked a couple of the tracks on this album whereas on Hybrid Theory or Meteora I liked almost all of the tracks. I hope that theyre next album is much better.
i'm missing a lot of the familiar energy that i find when i listen to a lp track... this album also disappoints me, i only like a few of the tracks.
KholdStare
2007-09-05, 02:03
I liked the album and most of their songs. That's because I listen to all kinds of music so it doesn't really matter that LP's songs changed from "Nu-Metal," as long as I like it I'm fine. The only track I don't like is the final track, which started off pretty catchy but then drags on for 7+ minutes?
silent_halo
2007-09-06, 14:23
first thing i noticed was that on this cd there are hardly any real LP styled songs.. it sounds more like normal hard rock, as in a non djing and no rapping and without those it feels like LP is just lost entirely... i felt so excited when i heard a new album was coming up but now i find LP a little boring mostly because the vibe that held fans to listen to it over and over again is gone...
i agree on this point becuase i used to be a big fan and when what i've done came out i was dissapointed....it is a great song in all but it is not linkin park. not the original anyway. as some say they are appeling to new fans but not to some of the old. i think we may not see the old linkin park anymore well not the same as it was anyway.
:(
I felt disappointed for the reasons Karuma said as well. I loved the djing and meaningful lyrics during meteroa and hybrid theory.
Daughter!
2007-09-17, 16:15
All I heard here was LP trying to get on the radio like they always do, and they've succeeded a bit with this album. Also, I don't believe they changed their sound. The record company did because Nu-Metal is going out of style. A lot of songs are in the same keys, and some are just same old repetitive LP lyrics. Too many Drop-D chords. They've kind of let me down with this record.
Pendevous
2007-11-03, 21:52
I really miss Meteora when I bought the album. I don't know why, but their song What I've Done isn't really my taste. I was disappointed at the album, really. They used to be my fave band. :(
Bleed It Out rocks though. :heh:
LionsMane
2007-11-04, 00:40
There are a few songs I really liked on this album but most of the songs I could have passed on. Like most people have said, I don't really think most of the music is their original style. It just doesn't appeal to me.
holyman282
2007-12-22, 08:16
Certainly Linkin Park has changed, but I find their new songs still quite enjoyable.
I mean I just got addicted to "Leave out all the rest".. Sure it's alot softer then their previous albums, but the lyrics are still meaningful.. They sound alot like Coldplay these days, but hey I like Coldplay to so I really don't mind.
solidified
2007-12-22, 10:47
they've certainly matured in terms of their music.
But iv got to say that this album wasnt all that great- it was OK.
I liked their old albums like meteora
Ichihara
2007-12-22, 14:57
I do prefer their old albums, but I like this one just fine.
Loved Bleed it Out..
Never Knows Best
2007-12-23, 12:36
okay the new album was released in stores yesterday, im listening to it right now feeling a little dissapointed...
for starters as we all know and love LP as it usually uses rap together with vocals with guitars and some damn good riff rafing in between...
first thing i noticed was that on this cd there are hardly any real LP styled songs.. it sounds more like normal hard rock, as in a non djing and no rapping and without those it feels like LP is just lost entirely... i felt so excited when i heard a new album was coming up but now i find LP a little boring mostly because the vibe that held fans to listen to it over and over again is gone...
has anyone else had this feeling...
why ooh why has my first and most favorite rockband taken the course to dust and failure... :(
I agree with you 110%. I was extremely dissappointed in this album. It didn't feel like a LP album.
Frankly, it's not enjoyable. They sold out to nu metal's "death". If they just stuck to their meteora sound now, they'd be unique. They won't be music legends sorry (blame their 5-year old guitarist).
bungoman
2007-12-24, 09:11
Screamo
Please, please, please do some homework on that word before using it in a Linkin Park thread. It's not something that should just be thrown around cavalierly.
It's nu metal. More hiphop than emo.
Ichihara
2007-12-26, 09:30
I would agree that it'll be better to they did stick with what they had been doing.
Hopefully they'll go back to what they used to do.
SeedFreedom
2007-12-26, 12:04
Kinda mixed. Some songs were awesome like Leave out all the rest and Bleed it out. And they obviously tried to make some controversy with there political songs like What I've done and Hands held high, but i think they diverged too far from what made me love their music with Valentines day and some of the less memorable songs.
Yeah i agree. LP lost its original style. It seems that with every new album they come out with they seem like a whole new band. i was going to buy the album but after previewing songs i just paid for downloads on vcast. maybe 3-4 songs on the album appealed to me but other than that it was way off from what i expected =/ amazon or itunes ftw
This album sucks. What I've Done was the worst LP song I've ever heard. I pray to God they go back to their pre-Minutes to Midnight genre.
Daughter!
2007-12-30, 10:49
Has anyone seen them live recently. While I don't like this new material, it's really cool how they change tones and overall sound like that.
I love LP but this album sucks o!o
MidnightViper88
2008-08-28, 14:12
You know, I'm probably one of the few people who could even possibly get away with saying "I like Tool" and "I like The Who" whilst uttering "I like Linkin Park" right after and still keep my head in tact...I don't know how, but somehow, Linkin Park really attracts to me...I used to hate them during "Hybrid Theory" but changed my mind during "Meteora" and retconned myself by going backwards and finding myself liking their first album...So when "Minutes to Midnight" first came out, I was almost ready to release it on it's release date, but just reluctant enough to hold out on the purchase until the spring of this year, and only motivated enough to start actually listening to it over the summer...
And you know...I was both excited and disappointed...
Excited in that with the help of Rick Rubin, Linkin Park put out a moderately mature album that doesn't sound as "all over the place" as their last two releases were...They seemed to be more focused composition wise, as the songs seemed less like songs and a little like compositions...They toned down the rap-rock aspect of it, and they've got Chester screaming less...Both are pluses for me...I really have to give it to Chester for his singing abilities on "Leave Out All The Rest", "Shadow Of The Day" and "Valentine's Day"...
Disappointments? It wasn't heavy enough like their last two albums...Yeah, you have "Given Up", "Bleed It Out" and "No More Sorrow", but that just isn't enough...You've got three really heavy songs while the rest are just too soft...Now I don't mind the soft songs because I also like melody, but I wanted a better balance of heavy and soft like on "Meteora"...
My main disappointment, and continuing complaint of Linkin Park? Lyrically, Chester Bennington is an emo-pussy..He wines too goddamn much...When I first heard that "Minutes To Midnight" would be more mature, I took it that Chester's so-called "problems" would be absent from the lyrics, and yes, while I still found the album overall matured, it still doesn't hide the fact that the lyrics on paper are still largely written by an emo-bitch...If I think about the lyrics too much, I start hating them; One thoughtful moment on the lyrics of "Valentine's Day" and you almost wanna pull off a Kurt Cobaine and shoot yourself out of misery...Mike Shinoda's pathetic attempt at a "political" song with "Hands Held High" seems nothing more like an aimless attempt at sounding serious and thoughtful when instead it's a political bandwagon trend that I hate hearing in entertainment, and I can't take Mike seriously when he raps like that either...
Is it a good album? Yes...Could it be better? Yes...Do I blame Chester Bennington for it's shortcomings? Hell yes!
Rick Rubin deserves better people to work with than this...
Daughter!
2008-08-30, 08:16
This album from the first song to the last song was screaming "hey guys! hey look! we have singles! look at all the singles! and there's rap too! you like rap?" The only track I could bear to listen to is "Shadow of the Day." They got some good electronics on that one. Other than that this record is trash.
Even a producer like Rick Rubin could only do so much to an album like this.
MidnightViper88
2008-08-30, 09:45
You have to give it to Linkin Park for their marketing strategy of releasing singles out the ass...Rock bands of the 1970s and 1980s used to do that, but there are a lot of bands of today that will produce a 13-track CD or whatever and only release 2 or 3 singles off of it...
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