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kari-no-sugata
2007-04-08, 04:41
Will be interesting to see the full scene of what we saw in the preview - Nanoha, Fate and Hayate all together on the same bed, looking a bit worn out :cool:
I jest of course. Some of the ep will cover what happened at the airport. I wonder how much the "main" story will progress...
Ottocycle
2007-04-08, 05:39
I greatly anticipate the introduction of Elio and Caro in the coming ep. Seems that they're getting far less screentime though, unlike Ep1, since they're not even in the preview. zzz.
And the Wolkenritter! *sigh*
Well its good if we get more non-work/fight development from the 3 aces anyway *thinly-veils XD* which was relegated to the sound stages and in-between manga scenes..
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-08, 06:07
I greatly anticipate the introduction of Elio and Caro in the coming ep. Seems that they're getting far less screentime though, unlike Ep1, since they're not even in the preview. zzz.
They don't even have much to do in the prelude manga! I am interested in Elio's past (What research Facility was that...), and Carol's family/clan (What is it that they do...).
And of course, how the two of them meet.
... And the Wolkenritter! *sigh*
I'm sure they'll have enough action/comedy scenes :)
Well its good if we get more non-work/fight development from the 3 aces anyway *thinly-veils XD* which was relegated to the sound stages and in-between manga scenes..
To me, I highly doubt they're bring up stuff from the sound stages and manga... Unless it's related to the current story, like when they first encountered the drones.
Nightengale
2007-04-08, 06:55
I am interested in Elio's past (What research Facility was that...), and Carol's family/clan (What is it that they do...).
I dunno about Elio, but if Yuuno is anything to go by, I wouldn't put too much on Carol's background getting a lot of plot importance. I mean, what do we know about Scrya other than they excavate stuff? Considering Yuuno is apparently an orphan, a decently talented mage for his age(A-/A/A+ at 9), in a clan that digs...shady stuff, they sure didn't care too much about him or his character potential.
Anyway, judging from the previews, doesn't look that interesting. I'm more interested in the new characters than Nanoha-verse's female version of Kakei-Kazuki-Uryuu anyway. Then again, previews has always been semi-misleading, so I'm half-optimistic.
This episode wil easily get a 9.99999 out of 10 if the below or something remotely similar happens.
Subaru/Teana/Elio/Caro :*Insert name/rank*, reporting for duty, sir!
Nanoha/Fate/Hayate: At ease. Uniform inspection!
Nanoha:...Your tie's bent! One penalty! Down 10! Now!
Subaru: Ye..yes Nanoha..I mean, Ma'am! *down for a 10*
Teana: *looks at Subaru*
Hayate: You lack focus! One penalty! Quick!
Teana: Ah..yes, Ma'am! *down for a 10*
Elio:....Fate-neesan...
Fate:....Your hair's a mess! One penalty!
Elio: ...but this is my natural hairsty..
Fate: No answering back! Another penalty! Get down and give me 20!
Elio : Yes, Ma'am!
Caro:....There's no way I can be penaltied. I got my hair right, my clothes all proper, I'm concentrated. I'm perfect.
Nanoha/Fate/Hayate:....Too cute! Three penalties!
Caro: I...I...yes, Ma'am!
Nanoha: Starting from this moment onwards, all of you are officially members of Mobile Section 6. All of you will be involved in official bureau missions and operations. This is different from training or field exercise.
Fate: I want all of you to take all of these into mind, and remain constantly focused on our objectives understanding the needed degree of professionalism and competentacy...otherwise...
Hayate: Not only yours, even our lifes will be gambled.
Drill in that military hardness into those rookies. Will never happen though, but I can dream.
Aaron008R
2007-04-08, 07:07
This episode wil easily get a 9.99999 out of 10 if the below or something remotely similar happens.
Subaru/Teana/Elio/Caro :*Insert name/rank*, reporting for duty, sir!
Nanoha/Fate/Hayate: At ease. Uniform inspection!
Nanoha:...Your tie's bent! One penalty! Down 10! Now!
Subaru: Ye..yes Nanoha..I mean, Ma'am! *down for a 10*
Teana: *looks at Subaru*
Hayate: You lack focus! One penalty! Quick!
Teana: Ah..yes, Ma'am! *down for a 10*
Elio:....Fate-neesan...
Fate:....Your hair's a mess! One penalty!
Elio: ...but this is my natural hairsty..
Fate: No answering back! Another penalty! Get down and give me 20!
Elio : Yes, Ma'am!
Caro:....There's no way I can be penaltied. I got my hair right, my clothes all proper, I'm concentrated. I'm perfect.
Nanoha/Fate/Hayate:....Too cute! Three penalties!
Caro: I...I...yes, Ma'am!
Nanoha: Starting from this moment onwards, all of you are officially members of Mobile Section 6. All of you will be involved in official bureau missions and operations. This is different from training or field exercise.
Fate: I want all of you to take all of these into mind, and remain constantly focused on our objectives understanding the needed degree of professionalism and competentacy...otherwise...
Hayate: Not only yours, even our lifes will be gambled.
Drill in that military hardness into those rookies. Will never happen though, but I can dream.
*short of breath from laughing* Ehehe... then what's next? The Squad 6 special dress code? (Looks at Hayate):heh:
Estavali
2007-04-08, 08:58
Special dress code, eh....?
Hmm...
Hayate: Now, you lot, strip!
All newbies: EH!?
Subaru: B,but...
Hayate: No buts!
Tia: This is insane! What sort of order is this?!
Hayate: Oho, challenging your superiors, are you....
*snaps fingers. Signum and Shamal unexplicably materialises and grabs Tia*
Hayate: Do it.
Tia: Hiiiee!!!! *as S & S violates her clothes on the spot*
Eriol: .... *tries very hard to resist the temptation to watch*
Fate: *sweetly* Eriol...
Eriol: Y-yes, Ma'am!
Fate: *still sweetly* What are you waiting for?
Eriol: B-but... *looks at Carol and blushes*
Carol: .... *blushes back*
Fate: I'm still waiting, Eriol *reveals a very hungry look*
*Eriol & Carol sweat-drops*
To be continued..... :D
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-08, 09:22
Special dress code, eh....?
Hmm...
Hayate: Now, you lot, strip!
All newbies: EH!?
Subaru: B,but...
Hayate: No buts!
Tia: This is insane! What sort of order is this?!
Hayate: Oho, challenging your superiors, are you....
*snaps fingers. Signum and Shamal unexplicably materialises and grabs Tia*
Hayate: Do it.
Tia: Hiiiee!!!! *as S & S violates her clothes on the spot*
Eriol: .... *tries very hard to resist the temptation to watch*
Fate: *sweetly* Eriol...
Eriol: Y-yes, Ma'am!
Fate: *still sweetly* What are you waiting for?
Eriol: B-but... *looks at Carol and blushes*
Carol: .... *blushes back*
Fate: I'm still waiting, Eriol *reveals a very hungry look*
*Eriol & Carol sweat-drops*
To be continued..... :D
(Outside the room...)
Vita: Huh, Zafila? What are you doing?
Zafila: Erm... Standing guard...
Vita: Eh? Oh well...
Zafila: Wait! What are you doing?
Vita: What? I was told to meet with the new members in there-
Zafila: You were what?! (Lowers his voice) listen, as a friend, I'm giving you an advice: DO NOT ENTER THIS ROOM!
Vita: Why the hell not?!
Zafila: Shhh! Listen, both Takamachi and Testarossa are in there-
Vita: SO? I already know that-
Zafila: WITH HAYATE.
Vita: Haya-...? OH SHI-!
Shamal: Vita-channnn! Please come innnnn :D
.....
Fate: I'm still waiting, Eriol *reveals a very hungry look*
*Eriol & Carol sweat-drops*
To be continued..... :D
You know, it is disturbing to see people want to strip children like that. :uhoh:
Aaron008R
2007-04-08, 10:19
You know, it is disturbing to see people want to strip children like that. :uhoh:
Agreed.:twitch: The real Fate would never do such a thing. But then, the Fate above is a Fan-made-comedic-scenario-entity so they can make her as OOC as they want. Though I wouldn't want to spoil the other members' fun, I guess I'll give another push for dialogue:
::Fanfic persona, ON!!::
D-damn, even FATE has been infected by Hayate's habits! This couldn't get any worse!!!
:hmm: <Looks at Nanoha...> :eek: :eek: :eek:
Continue if you must.:heh:
I prefer jokes in which you CAN see happening within the canon of the series. :heh:
Cheers.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-08, 10:25
^
No problem, just replace 'Fate' with 'Hayate' :)
With that, it makes it look as if Hayate kidnap the rookies ... :D
(Wait, that means I got to change mine as well...)
Completely off-topic (or not :p ), but Ep2 has been delayed for 30mins on TV Wakayama due to gubernatorial election program that has just kicked into the timeframe.
So it should be aired in approximately 26mins in future... without that f-in program, it should've been A part by now.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-08, 11:07
Either way, I'll be awake in 6 hours time to 'aquire' the chinese subs...
Will the Wolkenritter be appearing in this episode? Don't think I saw them in the preview. Then again, I suppose they'll come along with Hayate. I look forward to seeing Vita again.
sorry but im new i cant find any episode 2??????? its still at episode 1 can anyone advise me where to get episode 2 please thanks alot
Well, it hasn't been broadcasted yet so you may have a hard time finding it ^ _^;
Klashikari
2007-04-08, 11:23
not aired yet
edit : huhu, pointless now :heh:
Aaron008R
2007-04-08, 11:24
sorry but im new i cant find any episode 2??????? its still at episode 1 can anyone advise me where to get episode 2 please thanks alot
Welcome then.:) We're still waiting for episode 2 to air. It's not out yet.
[ADD] Ugh. Beaten again. :heh:
Not yet but wait for it too
I don't waiting for nothing for this episode :)
Action or Discussion, History or Funny Things.
Darco_emp
2007-04-08, 11:35
Anything with Hayate, Nanoha and Fate in the same bed must = WIN
They are in various stages of undress too. Moar WIN?
mercury lampe
2007-04-08, 12:13
They are in various stages of undress too. Moar WIN?
There is no doubt about it ;)
oh my, with scenes like these in my head, waiting for the episode is more and more difficult. T_T (Also, I need to see Signum and Vita...really need it)
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 12:23
Vita-chan appears in this episode.
*continues hunting for the screencaps*
And someone link us on the Chan Screen of
Elio and Carole
*Link Deleted because expired*
*Continues hunting too*
Darco_emp
2007-04-08, 12:33
When i first saw that on 2ch my hate meter for Elio want up 2 bars. How dare he do that to my cute Carole....
LoweGear
2007-04-08, 12:37
...
Talk about first impressions O_o
Anyways, can't wait for further screens XD
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 12:40
Got these from Edible:
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Fate was the one whom saved Ginga.
Hayate's magic triangle is white here, yet purple in the OP.
The moment I'm sure you've all been waiting for!
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LoweGear
2007-04-08, 12:47
*checks more of edible screens*
Check em' out here: (http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=2000121&topic=34610747)
*too busy ogling the Aces to comment*
Could you post it on a Spoiler Tag Please^^
Like always, put pics under spoiler tags. Looks good thought. :D
Awww, Hayate interrupts just when Fate and Nanoha were in the middle of "something". :heh:
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LoweGear
2007-04-08, 12:50
Tagged ^^
*continues pic check*
And SIGNUM APPEARS!!!!!!!!!!!! XD And even better the entire Wolkenritter (even Zafira) appears in this ep XD
Well i'm not talking at LoweGear for the Spoiler Tag but at Village Idiot XD
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 12:55
Well i'm not talking at LoweGear for the Spoiler Tag but at Village Idiot XD
Sorry mate, didn't see your post cause I was going through posting all them pics :P
It's nothing but it's a bit surprising to see a lot of screens
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 12:58
Very high quality pics this time around.
Might actually get a HQ version.
There's actually a big question this time around:
Why is Hayate's magic triangle in the OP purple?
johnjefferson3
2007-04-08, 13:00
well, i guess hayate still did not learn from all her cheating when she was young, see when you cheat you are only really hurting herself, when nanoha and fate learned their magic they learned it all on their own, and so they memoried it all on there own so, so that even those there magic is techically graded at at just s+ for both nanoha and fate comparied to hayate's SS, they can do there magic almost instanstaly without notic and do all of their magic live and on the spot, without any major complactions at all, hayate still can not memorize even 1 spell after 10 years, she needed her book just to even attampt a spell in epsiode1, while fate allready had her yellow ring around her arm, of course nanoha is always the fastest, since she is the ace of aces, but after seeing hayate in the screencaps stiill, yes i repeat still need the book to do a simple spell was completely sad and very disappointed, that it make her level of magic and militaly rank a joke, i know all you hayate fans do not like this news, but i must have the truth be told that hayate even with reinforce 2 (who cheats herself with her own little book of her own)on her side, is still very weak and patheic in magic knowledge, to for all you young people learn from this tragic event and get yourself a proper education or you will end of like a loser too!!!!! it the truth but saided in a funny way!!! LOL!!!!
Julius Firefocht
2007-04-08, 13:03
This is already looking better than I dared hope. Ep2 can't come fast enough!
Aaron008R
2007-04-08, 13:03
Very high quality pics this time around.
Might actually get a HQ version.
There's actually a big question this time around:
Why is Hayate's magic triangle in the OP purple?
Maybe it turns purple after Unison.
Darco_emp
2007-04-08, 13:05
not HQ i should think, but hopefully MQ atleast
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 13:05
Maybe it turns purple after Unison.
It was still white in A's.
Its hinted in the the SoundStages that Hayate might be, or is, merging completely with the Tome of Night Sky.
Kouji-kun
2007-04-08, 13:08
Is the one recently uploaded on the BT index subbed? That's quite fast.
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 13:09
Is the one recently uploaded on the BT index subbed? That's quite fast.
Thats Ep01, in HQ maybe.
Any opinions between DGz/#nanoha and yesy's subs btw?
Aaron008R
2007-04-08, 13:11
It was still white in A's.
Its hinted in the the SoundStages that Hayate might be, or is, merging completely with the Tome of Night Sky.
Hmm... Well, it was also hinted in the post-battle A's to Strikers manga during the discussion of the 3 Aces. Nanoha said, "I think that Reinforce-san's thoughts and strength have been fused with Hayate-chan's."
Still, I hope no harm comes to Hayate if this is indeed true.
well, i guess hayate still did not learn from all her cheating when she was young, see when you cheat you are only really hurting herself, when nanoha and fate learned their magic they learned it all on their own, and so they memoried it all on there own so, so that even those there magic is techically graded at at just s+ for both nanoha and fate comparied to hayate's SS, they can do there magic almost instanstaly without notic and do all of their magic live and on the spot, without any major complactions at all, hayate still can not memorize even 1 spell after 10 years, she needed her book just to even attampt a spell in epsiode1, while fate allready had her yellow ring around her arm, of course nanoha is always the fastest, since she is the ace of aces, but after seeing hayate in the screencaps stiill, yes i repeat still need the book to do a simple spell was completely sad and very disappointed, that it make her level of magic and militaly rank a joke, i know all you hayate fans do not like this news, but i must have the truth be told that hayate even with reinforce 2 (who cheats herself with her own little book of her own)on her side, is still very weak and patheic in magic knowledge, to for all you young people learn from this tragic event and get yourself a proper education or you will end of like a loser too!!!!! it the truth but saided in a funny way!!! LOL!!!!
lol what?
Hayate isn't SS-Class for Nothing... :D
LoweGear
2007-04-08, 13:14
Hmm... Well, it was also hinted in the post-battle A's to Strikers manga during the discussion of the 3 Aces. Nanoha said, "I think that Reinforce-san's thoughts and strength have been fused with Hayate-chan's."
Still, I hope no harm comes to Hayate if this is indeed true.
It's been ten years though, and we've yet to hear about any harmful effects to Hayate (asides from the TSAB's problems in containing her power :heh: ).
Kouji-kun
2007-04-08, 13:16
Thats Ep01, in HQ maybe.
The very first link. Looks like a damn fast sub (http://www.animesuki.com/)
Klashikari
2007-04-08, 13:18
heh? that's just the MKV version of episode 1
Any opinions between DGz/#nanoha and yesy's subs btw?
well both are nice sub, and they are merely the same, except few things (the most obvious term i noticed was Subaru's special Skill : yesy's translation was "Break Road", while nanoha's is "Link Road", which makes more sense)
i prefer nanoha's editing and font, but meh, that's only for aesthetic and grammar preferences, any of them is fine.
Gearhead
2007-04-08, 13:19
That's the MKV version of episode 1.
LoweGear
2007-04-08, 13:20
So what's the difference from previous releases?
Klashikari
2007-04-08, 13:24
So what's the difference from previous releases?
well, the quality, and the fact it is probably using softsub and such.
(the most obvious term i noticed was Subaru's special Skill : yesy's translation was "Break Road", while nanoha's is "Link Road", which makes more sense)Except it's officially "Wing Road"... gotta hate the Engrish basterdisation, isnt it?
Klashikari
2007-04-08, 13:28
heh, i didn't expect that kind of bastaerdisation :heh:
oh well... it sounds to be unavoidable for most cases (CG is a good example : sunrise added some serious english, but their romajization of the characters names is often awkard :heh:)
Darco_emp
2007-04-08, 13:30
yesy used Wing road i think, Still the Engrish.... meh on a different note Raws raws where art thou
Kouji-kun
2007-04-08, 13:46
That's the MKV version of episode 1.
lol my bad. Gomen.
Aaron008R
2007-04-08, 13:49
lol my bad. Gomen.
No problem! I'm downloading it anyway. Thanks for the link!:D
Shadow Angel
2007-04-08, 14:36
A small question this eppy will be reairing tomorrow right?
blitz1/2
2007-04-08, 14:44
Just looking at Carol makes me think that she is the secret daughter of Signum.
A small question this eppy will be reairing tomorrow right?
Yes, and about ~5 more times this week on different stations.
No raw yet.
mist2123
2007-04-08, 15:31
whaaaaa no rawss!!!
Shinji103
2007-04-08, 18:08
I bet the guy(s) who made the raw of episode 1 from the Sunday airing last week were offended by all the comments about the lack of quality in their raw, and/or fansubbers' avoidance of subbing their raw convinced them to not bother.
Looks like we're stuck waiting 'til tomorrow.
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 18:33
Ep02 raw is out.
Low Low Quality, yay.
Shinji103
2007-04-08, 18:56
What player do you use to read an flv? :confused:
Nightengale
2007-04-08, 18:57
What player do you use to read an flv? :confused:
Flv Player...VLC...whatever wears your socks.
Go google it.
Oh man, this raw is at 320x240. I can't watch this. :P
So every single Sunday will be like this, searching for good raws? :heh: I think I will just sit back and wait for the sub version for this series.
Yap.
There's 2 out right now, both same source, just one's a .flv and one's .avi, and it appears to be a cam recording.
mist2123
2007-04-08, 19:26
raws out but its low quality( worst quality)
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 19:30
Its not LQ.
Its LLQ, enough to make the stuff on youtube look HQ.
mist2123
2007-04-08, 19:36
Its not LQ.
Its LLQ, enough to make the stuff on youtube look HQ.
with this kind of raw youtube is high def LOL:heh:
Ahhh, this is nostolgic. Watching this LLQ RAW takes me back to watching a 5th generation VHS tape copy of a show with a half-page synopsis in one hand... :)
ouch my eyes hurt after watching that .....should really wait for another version.This one extremely low :( messed up all the good parts of this eps :heh:
The-Ghost
2007-04-08, 19:45
its ULQ (Ubber Low Quality) my eyes are bleeding from trying to watch it on my 22"lcd screen
mist2123
2007-04-08, 19:46
i cant even tell if fate's hair is yellow UUULLLQ vid ;)
You want to see some truly disgusting LQ cappery?
http://www.seiha.org/blog/?p=43
Ouch. Quick summary also included. Not really all that great of an episode, and I was really disappointed that the first main character male that they've had since season one... and the first thing he does is accidently grope Caro.
I still find the melodrama in this series a bit silly, and this was mostly a setup episode explaining a bit more background about Subaru and Ginga. Hopefully it's leading somewhere. I have faith that it is, but this definitely is not the bang that season 2 started with.
kari-no-sugata
2007-04-08, 20:07
Well, I watched the LLQ raw...
The ep covers quite a bit more of what happened 4 years ago - for example, how Fate saved Subaru's sister, Ginga. Hayate helps with organisation a bit until the proper ones turn up (who happens to be Subaru and Ginga's father), then Hayate goes to strutt her stuff. Afterwards, Hayate decides she wants to create her own command to better handle such situations and asks Nanoha and Fate if they want to join. Nanoha laughs and says she'd be angry if Hayate didn't ask them to join such an interesting sounding division.
Fast forward to now, and Hayate and Fate are explaining to Subaru and Teana that Hayate's only just gotten to point of being able to create such a command and asks if they want to join. (As a side-note, Subaru doesn't even know what Lost Logia are. I think we need a "Naze Nani Nanoha" with Reinforce and ferret-mode Yuuno :heh: )
With regards to the exam, though the cleared they objectives, they had too many screw-ups, so didn't pass. However, because they're clearly too skilled for C-rank, they'll be allowed to re-take the exam in a few days.
Later, Subaru and Teana are talking about joining Riot 6, and both seem rather apprehensive - it's rather sudden. Teana seems particularly nervous - that it's too far above her. Subaru teases Teana quite a bit...
The other prospective members are arriving today, though some minor worries about their age / experiance (though not their talent). They're both from other worlds too. Signum arrives late (doesn't really fit her image) but a certain clutzy pink loli hasn't arrived yet either (exactly to image). Elio offers to go search for her, and uses a burst of magic speed to save her when she trips - though kinda screws it up. (Wow, his move was quite cool...)
Meanwhile, Shamal is giving support to Zafira and Vita who are taking out the drones seen in the StrikerS prequel manga. They comment that they're getting more numerous / hard to deal with. Hayate's new unit can't come soon enough.
Next week, Riot 6 officially formed it seems, and... beginning of battle training with Nanoha :D
PS One brief scene gave me chills. It was Fate asking Nanoha if she was okay (physically). Nanoha says she's totally fine - Fate should know how tough she is. But Fate says she worries since she's a friend. What on earth is Fate worried about? (I bet some jokers will turn it into Nanoha being pregnant or something :rolleyes: ) There was a lot of worry in Fate's voice - all that just from Nanoha's little work during the test? Hmm. Is this possibly from a certain major injury suffered a long time ago (as seen in the StrikerS prequel manga?)
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 20:08
You want to see some truly disgusting LQ cappery?
http://www.seiha.org/blog/?p=43
Ouch. Quick summary also included. Not really all that great of an episode, and I was really disappointed that the first main character male that they've had since season one... and the first thing he does is accidently grope Caro.
I still find the melodrama in this series a bit silly, and this was mostly a setup episode explaining a bit more background about Subaru and Ginga. Hopefully it's leading somewhere. I have faith that it is, but this definitely is not the bang that season 2 started with.
Don't forget though, this season's 26 episodes.
It'll definitely move slower than the first and second seasons, and help flesh out the characters/settings more.
Don't forget though, this season's 26 episodes.
It'll definitely move slower than the first and second seasons, and help flesh out the characters/settings more.
*shrug* As far as a single episode goes, this one wasn't particularly compelling or interesting. I'm sure in the grand tapestry of events, it'll be fine and serve some vital purpose, but had I know it'd mostly just be various background information, I'm pretty sure I'd have not cared to watch it at super low res. Let this be my warning to others.
Rrrrrraarrrrrr. Aroduc hath spoken.
The-Ghost
2007-04-08, 20:19
Well, I watched the LLQ raw...
The ep covers quite a bit more of what happened 4 years ago - for example, how Fate saved Subaru's sister, Ginga. Hayate helps with organisation a bit until the proper ones turn up (who happens to be Subaru and Ginga's father), then Hayate goes to strutt her stuff. Afterwards, Hayate decides she wants to create her own command to better handle such situations and asks Nanoha and Fate if they want to join. Nanoha laughs and says she'd be angry if Hayate didn't ask them to join such an interesting sounding division.
Fast forward to now, and Hayate and Fate are explaining to Subaru and Teana that Hayate's only just gotten to point of being able to create such a command and asks if they want to join. (As a side-note, Subaru doesn't even know what Lost Logia are. I think we need a "Naze Nani Nanoha" with Reinforce and ferret-mode Yuuno :heh: )
With regards to the exam, though the cleared they objectives, they had too many screw-ups, so didn't pass. However, because they're clearly too skilled for C-rank, they'll be allowed to re-take the exam in a few days.
Later, Subaru and Teana are talking about joining Riot 6, and both seem rather apprehensive - it's rather sudden. Teana seems particularly nervous - that it's too far above her. Subaru teases Teana quite a bit...
The other prospective members are arriving today, though some minor worries about their age / experiance (though not their talent). They're both from other worlds too. Signum arrives late (doesn't really fit her image) but a certain clutzy pink loli hasn't arrived yet either (exactly to image). Elio offers to go search for her, and uses a burst of magic speed to save her when she trips - though kinda screws it up. (Wow, his move was quite cool...)
Meanwhile, Shamal is giving support to Zafira and Vita who are taking out the drones seen in the StrikerS prequel manga. They comment that they're getting more numerous / hard to deal with. Hayate's new unit can't come soon enough.
Next week, Riot 6 officially formed it seems, and... beginning of battle training with Nanoha :D
PS One brief scene gave me chills. It was Fate asking Nanoha if she was okay (physically). Nanoha says she's totally fine - Fate should know how tough she is. But Fate says she worries since she's a friend. What on earth is Fate worried about? (I bet some jokers will turn it into Nanoha being pregnant or something :rolleyes: ) There was a lot of worry in Fate's voice - all that just from Nanoha's little work during the test? Hmm. Is this possibly from a certain major injury suffered a long time ago (as seen in the StrikerS prequel manga?)
what happened to Nanoha? in the manga, i never finished reading it, past the translations of the first 3 i found on the net
could you pm me the answer instead of posting it on the boards and getting banned for a manga spoiler
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 20:21
what happened to Nanoha? in the manga, i never finished reading it, past the translations of the first 3 i found on the net
could you pm me the answer instead of posting it on the boards and getting banned for a manga spoiler
She got her ass kicked somehow and almost died.
The-Ghost
2007-04-08, 20:25
She got her ass kicked somehow and almost died.
ok thanks, never thought that would happen to her, i guess i should go and find translations. thanks
Meophist
2007-04-08, 20:25
I just watched the episode. Despite its super-low quality, I enjoyed it.The spell the kid used (forgot his name) was Sonic Move. It's Fate's spell…
Village Idiot
2007-04-08, 20:26
I just watched the episode. Despite its super-low quality, I enjoyed it.The spell the kid used (forgot his name) was Sonic Move. It's Fate's spell…
Elio's probably taught by Fate.
The-Ghost
2007-04-08, 20:32
did the pink loli call her dragonFreedom or was i hearing things. and missed its real name
did the pink loli call her dragonFreedom or was i hearing things. and missed its real name
I missed that too, and VLC crashes when I try to seek. So... I gave up. :p I heard it as Frieda, so... it's something along those lines.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-08, 20:38
Officially? It's 'Friedrich' ...
Edit:
As a side note, it's a frost dragon... Which is quite ironic actually, considering... :heh: :) :D ;)
Aaron008R
2007-04-08, 20:40
did the pink loli call her dragonFreedom or was i hearing things. and missed its real name
Umm, no. It was supposed to be Friedrich. But I couldn't help laughing at the prospect that anybody named Freedom in StrikerS. Too much mecha reference!:D
The-Ghost
2007-04-08, 20:41
I missed that too, and VLC crashes when I try to seek. So... I gave up. :p I heard it as Frieda, so... it's something along those lines.
Officially? It's 'Friedrich' ...
ok so i was some what close. yeah i had the same problem and had to wait like ~20ish mins of watching it muted as i did other things to get to that part to make sure i wasnt hearing things. i geuss .flv files are unseekable
Meophist
2007-04-08, 20:49
I heard "furiidorihi"…
where can you download the LLQ raw??
Officially? It's 'Friedrich' ...
Edit:
As a side note, it's a frost dragon... Which is quite ironic actually, considering... :heh: :) :D ;)
LoL , i wonder whether it is actually related or not :heh: ..He seems to use attacks ala BEWD (http://www.improbablemission.animeasylum.com/yugioh/anime/bewd.jpg) though
Edit:
I hope they will make jokes on Friedrich bullying Erio whenever he is too close to Caro :p
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-08, 22:21
LoL , i wonder whether it is actually related or not :heh:
Heh well, who else uses frost and what does that person have in common with Carol?
..He seems to use attacks ala BEWD (http://www.improbablemission.animeasylum.com/yugioh/anime/bewd.jpg) though
I was expecting it's attack to be blue, but from the OP it's... pink, so it's not as intimidating as the white dragon :heh:
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Edit:
I hope they will make jokes on Friedrich bullying Erio whenever he is too close to Caro :p
This is how it's going to go down. :)
Erio will find out that Friedrich can talk, but only does it around him so that nobody else knows...
Much like a certain tiger with a certain butler.
Meophist
2007-04-08, 22:29
Something that caught me off-guard in this episode is the use of a piece of music I have previously associated with "Earth" from the previous series. It being used in a place that's quite not Earth was a little unsettling.
Something that caught me off-guard in this episode is the use of a piece of music I have previously associated with "Earth" from the previous series. It being used in a place that's quite not Earth was a little unsettling.
Yeah, I'm guessing they're associating it with "home," which Earth was before, but no longer.
Preliminary Thoughts on Ep02 RAW:
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We got to see another rescue. :D This time it was from Fate. If Nanoha's rescue of Subaru was "romantic", then Fate's rescue of Ginga is cool and suave. I am now wondering which sibling had the better deal? :D I am leaning more on Fate's rescue of Ginga, because I am a proponent of cool over romance. :p
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Hayate's "elemental" attack came in useful in the airport fire. Nanoha's magic is "pure", and for the most part, destructive. :heh: Fate's magic is mostly electrical in nature, and thus, usually destructive as well (unless they suddenly need to power up an electrical station or something).
Hayate's frost attacks can be both destructive and life-saving, and thus, more versatile in nature. Maybe this is why she is ranked higher? Due to the more varied possibilities of her magic?
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Speaking of which, they chose not to animate Hayate's transformation scene and opted for a cooler version in which Hayate does a running take-off. :D So... cool... *fanboys*
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Fate retains her purple flashes when she streaks in flash-mode. Wait... that line seems to have an unintentional double meaning. :heh:
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The snark in me wanted to see the ground enforcers get accidentally frozen by Hayate as well. :heh: Ah well, they did at least get frosting on themselves. ;)
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It is nice to see that Subaru has evolved from her initial interactions with Teana (from the manga). She is now actively teasing Teana as opposed to being cowered by her all the time. :) Butt-pinching by Teana for the win. :D
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I know it is meant to give us another perspective from the main trio's point of view, but at this rate, it is going to seem as though the trio are stalking every move that Subaru and Teana make. :heh:
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Signum does not seem to be one for protocol. :heh: Poor Elio was stuck in his salute position because Signum did not return it back.
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Fate's car WINS. I guess their careers must pay damn well or something. Now if only they reveal whether or not the car has weaponry and/or secret-agent gadgets. :heh:
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First breast-grab joke in Nanoha's history? :heh: Fortunately, Caro took it in her stride and did not degenerate the scene into a typical ecchi slap-stick routine. Yay for subversions!
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It is shown that Fate is the tallest out of the trio, followed by Nanoha, then Hayate.
More thoughts when the fansubs come out.
Cheers.
Man, I'll try to resist and not dwonload the LLQ raw; but if we don't get a better one, I think I'll be dl'ing it tomorrow. orz. Having to go thru this raw hunting every week is going to be an ordeal.
BTW, those who have read the manga, could you write short explanations of stuff you think the rest of us don't know about, please? Spoiler tagged of course (I'll be hunting down the manga, but I'm not sure if all of it has been translated). Thanks in advance.
Man, I'll try to resist and not dwonload the LLQ raw; but if we don't get a better one, I think I'll be dl'ing it tomorrow. orz. Having to go thru this raw hunting every week is going to be an ordeal.
BTW, those who have read the manga, could you write short explanations of stuff you think the rest of us don't know about, please? Spoiler tagged of course (I'll be hunting down the manga, but I'm not sure if all of it has been translated). Thanks in advance.
The manga is translated in English up to Chp 5 and Chp 6 in Chinese(Chaos correct me if am wrong) the last time i check,there is 7 in total.
If you read through Manga discussion thread , there is summary of chapter 6 and 7.As in "short explanations of stuff you think the rest of us don't know about" , which stuff are you referring to? I don't really get what you mean(summary or what?) might be my poor English.You should post this in manga discussion thread instead of here :p
Man, I'll try to resist and not dwonload the LLQ raw; but if we don't get a better one, I think I'll be dl'ing it tomorrow. orz. Having to go thru this raw hunting every week is going to be an ordeal.
Resist real hard dude ^^ ,dont dl the SLLQ raw you will regret it.Ruined all the great parts in this episode :frustrated: Go watch other shows in the mean time
Heh well, who else uses frost and what does that person have in common with Carol?
Also friedrich is a brand for air condition :heh: (looking at one in my dormitory room lol) , just find it funny since Subaru name also related to industrial stuff.
I was expecting it's attack to be blue, but from the OP it's... pink, so it's not as intimidating as the white dragon
Erio will find out that Friedrich can talk, but only does it around him so that nobody else knows...
Much like a certain tiger with a certain butler.
Wait till it evolve ;p or talk >.>
mist2123
2007-04-09, 01:24
Man, I'll try to resist and not dwonload the LLQ raw; but if we don't get a better one, I think I'll be dl'ing it tomorrow. orz. Having to go thru this raw hunting every week is going to be an ordeal.
BTW, those who have read the manga, could you write short explanations of stuff you think the rest of us don't know about, please? Spoiler tagged of course (I'll be hunting down the manga, but I'm not sure if all of it has been translated). Thanks in advance.
I am a devil:heh: :heh: . Dont resist get the LLQ raw you will miss a really good episode your just wasting your life not getting it :)
I am a devil:heh: :heh: . Dont resist get the LLQ raw you will miss a really good episode your just wasting your life not getting it :)
......:nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono: :nono:
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 01:44
The manga is translated in English up to Chp 5 and Chp 6 in Chinese(Chaos correct me if am wrong) the last time i check,there is 7 in total.
I've seen evidence of Chap 5 being translated in english, but I haven't got it yet... My chinese scans I've only chap 5, 6 and 7 are raws...
If you read through Manga discussion thread , there is summary of chapter 6 and 7.As in "short explanations of stuff you think the rest of us don't know about" , which stuff are you referring to? I don't really get what you mean(summary or what?) might be my poor English.You should post this in manga discussion thread instead of here
I can think of a few things she/he meant, so to leave things ambigous...
1. AMF
2. Counter-AMF training
3. Mid-Childan airport under attack
4. Mid-Childan vs New Velka discussion
5. Lost of family member(s)
Resist real hard dude ^^ ,dont dl the SLLQ raw you will regret it.Ruined all the great parts in this episode Go watch other shows in the mean time
Bah! The only thing worth seeing (other then the flashback rescue), is Erio and Carol first 'encounter'... Which would prove the suspicion I had a month ago...
P.S - And it seems another character can use frost spells... Looks like I got to change some of my jokes...
The following references from Utawarerumono.
[What If...]
It is late at night in the TSAB-HQ and Fate and Signum are walking in the corridors heading back home, having just finished some paperwork.
Signum: "Twice."
Fate: "AH! Stop bringing that-"
*crash*
Fate: "What was that?"
Signum: "It came from the cafeteria!"
(Fate and Signum rushes to the cafeteria)
Fate: "Caro? What are you doing here so late at night? Did you hear that crash sound?"
Caro: "Ah! Ahaha! It was nothing! I was just being clumsy, that's all."
Signum: "Oh?"
Caro (sweating): "Nothing! Nothing at all!"
Signum: "So why are you acting so suspiciously then? And why do I get the impression that you are trying to block that door behind you?"
Caro: "AH!"
Signum: "Scoot, girl."
Caro: "No!"
Signum: "Yeah right. *picks up Caro with one hand*"
Caro (struggling futilely): "No! No! No!"
(Signum opens the door with her other hand)
Fate & Signum: "..."
Friedrich: "..."
Fate: "Was he... always this big?"
Signum: "Explain, girl!"
Caro: "Waaaa!"
Friedrich: "*growls at Signum*"
Signum (glares at Friedrich): "What?"
Friedrich: "*whimpers*"
Fate: "There, there, Signum. I'm sure there's a reasonable explanation for this."
Signum: "You're far too soft on your charges, Fate. They need discipline from time to time."
Fate: "I'll be the judge of that."
Signum: "Bah!"
Caro: "Yay! Fate-to-nee-san!"
(Caro and Friedrich glomps Fate)
Fate: "Ah! Wait, too heavy! Signum, help!"
Signum (walking away): "*whistling*"
Fate: "Signum!"
Caro: "Nee-san!"
Darco_emp
2007-04-09, 01:47
Heh, Its a good Ep overall I would say. We get to see Fate and Hayate in action, Guess that kinda decides Hayate's power level with a single spell to freeze almost the entire block that was in flame.
And there are fun parts with Teana and Subaru.
Through I hate Elio on site and the hate meter move up extreamly fast. Still never the less a soild Ep. Friedrich go take a bite out of Elio, I'm counting on you
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 02:10
@Skane
LOL! Argh! I can't beat you at this... Still, doesn't stop me from trying...
(In reference to that particular scene that got on Darco emp's nerves... :D )
Erio: You wanted to see me, Chrono ni-san?
Chrono: Ah yes Erio, walk with me...
Erio: What is it?
Chrono: Listen, I've heard about your recent... Incident with your new team mate-
Erio: WHAT?! Wait, who-
Chrono: Don't worry, I understand... She is a very cute girl and you're at that age where...
Erio: NO! I-
Chrono: Sure Sure, I believe you... Anyway, remember how you always wanted me to teach you some tricks?
Erio: Well, yeah but-
Chrono: I've decided that you're finally ready for it.
Erio: REALLY!?
Chrono: Yup, I'm going to pass on to you techniques that my...erm, 'teachers' themselves taught me...
Erio: You mean like 'binding' and stuff?
Chrono: Well... Thats one of them I guess...
LoweGear
2007-04-09, 03:00
And the Legacy of Graham and the Lieze's live on in the next generation :heh:
*still awaiting at least a decent quality raw*
Darco_emp
2007-04-09, 03:42
@Skane
LOL! Argh! I can't beat you at this... Still, doesn't stop me from trying...
(In reference to that particular scene that got on Darco emp's nerves... :D )
Erio: You wanted to see me, Chrono ni-san?
Chrono: Ah yes Erio, walk with me...
Erio: What is it?
Chrono: Listen, I've heard about your recent... Incident with your new team mate-
Erio: WHAT?! Wait, who-
Chrono: Don't worry, I understand... She is a very cute girl and you're at that age where...
Erio: NO! I-
Chrono: Sure Sure, I believe you... Anyway, remember how you always wanted me to teach you some tricks?
Erio: Well, yeah but-
Chrono: I've decided that you're finally ready for it.
Erio: REALLY!?
Chrono: Yup, I'm going to pass on to you techniques that my...erm, 'teachers' themselves taught me...
Erio: You mean like 'binding' and stuff?
Chrono: Well... Thats one of them I guess...
We do not need Ero-boy II this time around....
I changed my mind Friedrich eat Elio instead, if he to be left alone he will become a threat to all lolis.
waiting for a good raw.... while at it random throughts: Hayate's freezing spell seems on par with Eternal Cofin's range if not the power, interesting to see Hayate to have that level of power without Rein
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 04:08
We do not need Ero-boy II this time around....
I changed my mind Friedrich eat Elio instead, if he to be left alone he will become a threat to all lolis.
It's for the greater good. In every ecosystem, there must be predators to balance out the prey :D
(Besides, You can't spell Erio without 'E', 'r' & 'o' ;) )
waiting for a good raw.... while at it random throughts: Hayate's freezing spell seems on par with Eternal Cofin's range if not the power, interesting to see Hayate to have that level of power without Rein
I'm beginning wondering if Hayate even needs to merge with Rein... Maybe that event in A's was a one time offer? Because ever since then, have they ever shown her with white hair anymore?
Aaron008R
2007-04-09, 04:24
We do not need Ero-boy II this time around....
I changed my mind Friedrich eat Elio instead, if he to be left alone he will become a threat to all lolis.
The Nanohaverse's equivalent of Ryusei Date from SRW?
waiting for a good raw.... while at it random throughts: Hayate's freezing spell seems on par with Eternal Cofin's range if not the power, interesting to see Hayate to have that level of power without Rein
It's really amazing on how much Hayate can do after just showing a few moves from A's to now. Petrifying, freezing, what's next I wonder? Hope she and Chrono could do an Absolute Zero combo attack.
It's for the greater good. In every ecosystem, there must be predators to balance out the prey :D
(Besides, You can't spell Erio without 'E', 'r' & 'o' ;) )
So your saying that there would be a rise in the population of lolis?:confused:
I'm beginning wondering if Hayate even needs to merge with Rein... Maybe that event in A's was a one time offer? Because ever since then, have they ever shown her with white hair anymore?
Well, aside from the promotions at Megami, not as of yet. I'm certain they'll do it at one point though. Perhaps as a trump card or something.
Aye... it's hard enough as it is to think of enemies that can possibly pose a credible threat to the Triumphant Trio. By delaying R-Zwei's unison with Hayate, they have left themselves an opening to power Hayate up without resorting to overly blatant Deus ex Machina.
Speaking of which, I am still hoping for a complete unison with all the Wolkenritter Knights. I mean hey... the Knights are programs after all, so they CAN be assimilated into Hayate, who is already fused with the master program and is its' administrator.
Signum can be her sword, Vita her shield, Zafira her armour plating, and Shamal can be... her support rings? (dragoon ring system?), while R-Zwei remains as her heart.
"Impossible! How can anybody be so powerful?"
"I'm part Lost Logia, b****."
Still... it brings about the question on how they are going to handle Nanoha and Fate... Maybe they will finally show us tactical moves ala Chrono?
Cheers.
Nightengale
2007-04-09, 05:06
Still... it brings about the question on how they are going to handle Nanoha and Fate... Maybe they will finally show us tactical moves ala Chrono?
Forgive me, my comrades. :(
I feel so so so so dirty for even this thought to come into my mind like this much less giving a visual example, for I am vocally not fond of Fate x Nanoha, and prefers the hetero ones, one even incest, contrary to the popular belief that all Nanoha fans are supporters of NanoFate and whoever's not is an outcast.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Vegetto_photo.jpg
:upset:
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 05:07
So your saying that there would be a rise in the population of lolis?:confused:
Hey who know? :)
Speaking of which, I am still hoping for a complete unison with all the Wolkenritter Knights. I mean hey... the Knights are programs after all, so they CAN be assimilated into Hayate, who is already fused with the master program and is its' administrator.
Signum can be her sword, Vita her shield, Zafira her armour plating, and Shamal can be... her support rings? (dragoon ring system?), while R-Zwei remains as her heart.
"Impossible! How can anybody be so powerful?"
"I'm part Lost Logia, b****."
You know, I might have grown up with 'transformers' but still... :heh:
Still... it brings about the question on how they are going to handle Nanoha and Fate... Maybe they will finally show us tactical moves ala Chrono?
Cheers.
Don't expect it anytime soon.
Remember, any villian that uses machines or bugs or undead or mutants or allens or ANYTHING that can be easily mass produced only have one battle tactic.
"If 100 doesn't get the job done, add another '0' at the back and try again!"
... Look at the Akumas :heh:
EDIT:
@Nightengale
Lucky for me, I've never watched DB in my entire life... Okay, I lied. To be exact, I've never watched DB from start to end, hence I never understand it, therefore I don't feel like killing myself from that :D
Darco_emp
2007-04-09, 05:09
Still... it brings about the question on how they are going to handle Nanoha and Fate... Maybe they will finally show us tactical moves ala Chrono?
Cheers.
Nanoha, tactical moves? something does not adds up in my brain. Maybe we'll see trigger happy Nanoha :D
Rewatched Ep 3 preview, Nanoha san's training practice is here... run for cover Subaru and Teana. Lets be more serious now, I wonder what will the training forcus on, since Subaru and Teana can not fly, nor as it seems that they have many if any long range attacks, so range combat that Nanoha is so good at is out of question too, maybe its time to finally see Nanoha in close range combat :D.
Aaron008R
2007-04-09, 05:30
Forgive me, my comrades. :(
I feel so so so so dirty for even this thought to come into my mind like this much less giving a visual example, for I am vocally not fond of Fate x Nanoha, and prefers the hetero ones, one even incest, contrary to the popular belief that all Nanoha fans are supporters of NanoFate and whoever's not is an outcast.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Vegetto_photo.jpg
:upset:
:dots: Though the very thought of this sends chills down my spine, but hey, what's being members of the same fan group for? Of course your forgiven!:D
Aye... it's hard enough as it is to think of enemies that can possibly pose a credible threat to the Triumphant Trio. By delaying R-Zwei's unison with Hayate, they have left themselves an opening to power Hayate up without resorting to overly blatant Deus ex Machina.
Speaking of which, I am still hoping for a complete unison with all the Wolkenritter Knights. I mean hey... the Knights are programs after all, so they CAN be assimilated into Hayate, who is already fused with the master program and is its' administrator.
Signum can be her sword, Vita her shield, Zafira her armour plating, and Shamal can be... her support rings? (dragoon ring system?), while R-Zwei remains as her heart.
Your scaring me. Yaten-no-Kishi-Gattai?! FINAL FUSION!?:eek: :twitch:
Still... it brings about the question on how they are going to handle Nanoha and Fate... Maybe they will finally show us tactical moves ala Chrono?
Cheers.
About tactics, Fate has had help from Chrono for the past several years so she should be able to pull of some tricks like her onii-chan. And for Nanoha, she's a combat instructor so I guess it's a given that she has extensive knowledge of combat tactics.
Finally, speaking of ala Chrono, they should give our Commodore an intense solo battle of his own. His one of the highest ranking mages out there for God's sake! (with even a possibility of being higher-ranked than the Aces) The most action he got was fighting Precia's drones, unsuccessfully apprehending the Knights, sneak-binding the Lieze twins and partially freezing the Book's defense program.
While their at it, they should give Arf and Yuuno at least a bit of action before the series ends. More so for former-admiral Graham.<if he's still capable, or even alive>
~ More so for former-admiral Graham.<if he's still capable, or even alive>
Nah. He probably became inheritance-fodder for Hayate already. :p Genga is the new old-man on the block.
Hehe.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 05:50
About tactics, Fate has had help from Chrono for the past several years so she should be able to pull of some tricks like her onii-chan. And for Nanoha, she's a combat instructor so I guess it's a given that she has extensive knowledge of combat tactics.
I suppose you're right, but Nanoha and Fate strikes me as the type of people who won't change unless they need to.
"If it's not broken, why fix it?"
If plowing through cannon-folder works fine, there shouldn't be any reason to pull out the book and flip through it.
Finally, speaking of ala Chrono, they should give our Commodore an intense solo battle of his own. His one of the highest ranking mages out there for God's sake! (with even a possibility of being higher-ranked than the Aces) The most action he got was fighting Precia's drones, unsuccessfully apprehending the Knights, sneak-binding the Lieze twins and partially freezing the Book's defense program.
Base on the last 2 season, Chrono has only a set number of moves to show off :heh:
Season 1
1. Stinger Snipe (To me, sniper shot is more or less the same thing :heh:)
2. Break Impulse
3. Blaze Cannon
Season 2
1. Stinger Blade Execution Shift (Has the slickest name imo)
2. Struggle Bind
3. Eternal Coffin
... So, I'm expecting only 3 moves this time round as well :heh:
While their at it, they should give Arf and Yuuno at least a bit of action before the series ends. More so for former-admiral Graham.<if he's still capable, or even alive>
One can only hope...
So it's character development episode? Everything's going as planned...
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 06:15
Don't forget that Eternal Coffin was the only one not performed with a generic device.
Yeah, but I think the other spells were still his 'original', despite using the common S2U. Wonder if he picked up any new moves with Durandal...
My fear for Chrono is that it'll be his role would be to take his mother's place to turn the Arc-en-ciel key instead of going out there and getting dirty like the others...
Yeah, but I think the other spells were still his 'original', despite using the common S2U. Wonder if he picked up any new moves with Durandal...
My fear for Chrono is that it'll be his role would be to take his mother's place to turn the Arc-en-ciel key instead of going out there and getting dirty like the others...
Well... they could always do a spinoff of a spinoff of a spinoff with Chrono. :heh: "Chrono's Crusade" (I wonder if this title has been taken already?), the adventures of a weary man as he goes around the TSAB-HQ solving the other-worldly problems of its' various female denizens.
I mean hey. Chrono's VA already did it three times. Might as well make it four.
Cheers.
Nightengale
2007-04-09, 06:33
Nah. He probably became inheritance-fodder for Hayate already. :p Genga is the new old-man on the block.
But Genga's not as cool as Graham, despite looking younger. Not to mention both of Graham's familiars are obviously more powerful than both Ginga and Subaru.
I'd know that reality is cruel and the world prefers seeing pleasing-to-the-eyes-young people doing all the field work, but seriously, Graham should be there on person to pass down the torch to Hayate, even if it means his death. Graham needs to show that his old bones can still do the strut. My biggest grip with A's was how Hayate never met Graham in person.
I want greenlight on Mahou Shonen Classical Graham!
Aaron008R
2007-04-09, 06:53
Well... they could always do a spinoff of a spinoff of a spinoff with Chrono. :heh: "Chrono's Crusade" (I wonder if this title has been taken already?), the adventures of a weary man as he goes around the TSAB-HQ solving the other-worldly problems of its' various female denizens.
I mean hey. Chrono's VA already did it three times. Might as well make it four.
Cheers.
Sooo... With your idea, with it being a spinoffx2 that would star a still single Chrono on an alternate but nearly parallel Nanohaverse in a harem situation with the Aces, officers, civilians, Amy(of course), etc. Sounds like a great project to me! For now, it sounds like a good outline for a fanfic. Too bad I'm not really one to write decent stories.:sad: Hopefully, somebody else would use this idea.:help:
:topicoff: Anyway, I've already read a fanfic with a similar setting to this. It's Chaos2Frozens' "The Paranoia of Chrono Haraoun" in Fanfiction.net. It's really hilarious. Especially the Hayate-chan arc.:D
But Genga's not as cool as Graham, despite looking younger. Not to mention both of Graham's familiars are obviously more powerful than both Ginga and Subaru.
I'd know that reality is cruel and the world prefers seeing pleasing-to-the-eyes-young people doing all the field work, but seriously, Graham should be there on person to pass down the torch to Hayate, even if it means his death. Graham needs to show that his old bones can still do the strut. My biggest grip with A's was how Hayate never met Graham in person.
I want greenlight on Mahou Shonen Classical Graham!
Agreed on every point. Maybe except for the MSCGraham bit. Kinda sounds creepy to me.:heh:
Estavali
2007-04-09, 07:10
For Chinese scanlations, 雪飘工作室 (flsnow.net) has them up to chapter 7.
They've also uploaded episode 2, but not without advicing their viewers beforehand to prepare eyedrops and very good earplugs as well as a "we are not responsible for all resulting damages" disclaimer.
Guess this release is really that bad :D .
I agree to the notion of Graham handing the torch to Hayate. He's more or less her guardian/god-father and a good deed should be seen to this fulfilment.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 07:11
@Aaron008R
Hahaha! Recognition at last! :)
(But I think I messed up the first story :heh:, but two out of three ain't bad :p)
@Nightengale
If it makes you feel better, I believe the twins should still be able to make an appearance. Especially since a good amount of the story is about training, wouldn't be too out of place to get them to train Eri- I mean, the 4 of them... In the art of magical 'combat'... :uhoh:
LoweGear
2007-04-09, 08:01
Base on the last 2 season, Chrono has only a set number of moves to show off :heh:
Season 1
1. Stinger Snipe (To me, sniper shot is more or less the same thing :heh:)
2. Break Impulse
3. Blaze Cannon
Season 2
1. Stinger Blade Execution Shift (Has the slickest name imo)
2. Struggle Bind
3. Eternal Coffin
... So, I'm expecting only 3 moves this time round as well :heh:
Hmmm... nitpicky and all, but after rewatching Nanoha a few times, I imagine that Snipe Shot is just a fancy name for Chrono controlling and redirecting Stinger Snipe (notice that when he says it, the previous Stinger Snipe he launched is the one that executed the move). After all, Stinger Snipe is supposed to be S in accuracy.
But Genga's not as cool as Graham, despite looking younger. Not to mention both of Graham's familiars are obviously more powerful than both Ginga and Subaru.
I'd know that reality is cruel and the world prefers seeing pleasing-to-the-eyes-young people doing all the field work, but seriously, Graham should be there on person to pass down the torch to Hayate, even if it means his death. Graham needs to show that his old bones can still do the strut. My biggest grip with A's was how Hayate never met Graham in person.
I want greenlight on Mahou Shonen Classical Graham!
I know your pain. Who knows, maybe Graham may show up yet in his old interdimensional battleship, Wave Motion Guns and Yamato Cannons blazing for the final showdown...
"Shields Up, Weapons Online!"
Anyways, I'm hoping that Hayate at least meets Graham once during StrikerS, and lives up on his promise to tell her what he wanted to reveal, especially concerning the Book of Darkness.
Aaron008R
2007-04-09, 08:14
Anyways, I'm hoping that Hayate at least meets Graham once during StrikerS, and lives up on his promise to tell her what he wanted to reveal, especially concerning the Book of Darkness.
Perhaps it has already happened. After all, it was shown in the A's epilogue that Hayate told Shamal to send pictures to Graham-san. But then, perhaps she still doesn't know. Though I highly doubt that she would not read about her own case in the archives of TSAB. All details should be there, including Graham's involvement. Perhaps we could get a flashback.
Finally, a better quality version of Episode 2 appears to have been posted.
edit: Link removed
Loner: You can't post links to raws here.
Gah. Had my dummy lights on high-beam again.
I'm curious to know why it has been so difficult to locate good RAWs. Has StrikerS gone unpopular without us knowing about it? Are the RAW-providers mainly "Lolicons" who are protesting the "ageing" of the Triumphant Trio?
Curiouser and curiouser.
Darco_emp
2007-04-09, 10:12
I would think that, due to the narture of the location of first airing location, there is no resource to make a great capture, and after that there just seems to be no HD raws at all... and forcing us to settle with current MQ releases by all parties
Loner: You can't post links to raws here.
And from comments like this:
dang it... another song and dance bit trying to get a good quality of this... just like last week, it's like LQ-MQ... HD later..
I think I will still wait.
Meophist
2007-04-09, 10:17
I would think that, due to the narture of the location of first airing location, there is no resource to make a great capture, and after that there just seems to be no HD raws at all... and forcing us to settle with current MQ releases by all parties
It's still a little baffling why we're getting worse quality raws than the last episode's.
yea... don't ask me why the quality sucks (the one I posted is still service-able)... tis the first actual decent RAW I could find.
Apparently it takes a few days, at least for Nanoha, for a *good* raw to come out.
EDIT: here's a quick cap of the quality:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6186/snapshot20070409112107ew3.th.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20070409112107ew3.jpg)
Meophist
2007-04-09, 10:36
I just don't want to go through watching FLVs again :(
yea... don't ask me why the quality sucks (the one I posted is still service-able)... tis the first actual decent RAW I could find.
Apparently it takes a few days, at least for Nanoha, for a *good* raw to come out.
EDIT: here's a quick cap of the quality:
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6186/snapshot20070409112107ew3.th.jpg (http://img265.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot20070409112107ew3.jpg)
I just don't want to go through watching FLVs again
ehh it is pretty decent actually, at least my eyes are not bleeding while watching this compared to LLQ version earlier. It is about the same quality as ep1 LQ version , some parts in the middle a little bit lower though.
mikemil828
2007-04-09, 16:19
Preliminary Thoughts on Ep02 RAW:
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[list]
Fate's car WINS. I guess their careers must pay damn well or something. Now if only they reveal whether or not the car has weaponry and/or secret-agent gadgets. :heh:
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First breast-grab joke in Nanoha's history? :heh: Fortunately, Caro took it in her stride and did not degenerate the scene into a typical ecchi slap-stick routine. Yay for subversions!
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Cheers.
I hereby dub Fate's Car the 'Fate-mobile'! She's got the sidekick, now all she needs is an obnoxious yet catchy theme song when she get's into the car......
Well at least Erio has got his priorities straight, chase girls now, save the world later
dahl_moon
2007-04-09, 19:02
Well, I haven't seen LLQ yet, but I'm pretty happy with the MD quality. Episode 2 mostly sets things up; explaining the current situation. Favorite moments:
Nanoha: "I was a bit surprised about the "Buster" part."
Subaru: "!!!! I'm terribly sorry!" (guess Subaru's "Buster" was a Nanoha imitation:heh:
Bardiche had some English lessons, too!
I agree with Skane. Fate's coolness wins over Nanoha's sheer power.Anyway, the censorship level seems rather weak in this episode... You'll know when you see it:heh:
johnjefferson3
2007-04-09, 19:54
i find it amazing that elio's arm peice is a watch but as soon has he sees carol just about to fall forward on the escalator, the watch must be intelligent since it says sonic move outloud and it also displays that mesage on the watch itself, and elo can instantly move real fast even without even changing his clothes, in fact he move so fast, he more than counteract the gravity of carol's falling motion and lifted her back up past the beginning of the escalator, when i saw it it was simply amazing the techonlogy has really advanced in just 10 years, and then a few moments later we get to see carol familar dragon, he is a little rugged strong looking dragon with some fighting spirit, even has a cute horn-ring (but shaped like a human nose-ring)so he can make a visual impact for sure!!!! i can not wait to so see him do some great or nasty litle things, this guy might put that little reinfore in her true proper place since i think he can handle her!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!! i am glad they put this in the end of epsiode 2 since it balanced all the serious part in the beginning of the episode when they showed all the aces saving people and taking down the fire, with the aces, and then the next day, the same aces in the same bed after they used all their engey from the day before for the middle of the epsiode, so i can not wait until we see episode 3!!!!!!!!
CanonRap
2007-04-09, 20:12
Don't know why, but it amuses me to no end that Strada's 'civvie mode' is a watch.
Well at least Erio has got his priorities straight, chase girls now, save the world later
The first male in Nanoha who actually likes girls?
At this rate, Elio wll probably end up being the most hated character in StrikerS.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 20:27
The first male in Nanoha who actually likes girls?
At this rate, Elio wll probably end up being the most hated character in StrikerS.
Whoa whoa whoa!
What do you mean by "The first male in Nanoha who actually likes girls?" I find that extremely offensive :mad:
...In other news:
Sonic Move: Saving falling girls since 2007. (Warning: recommended age 15+, might cause embarrassing awkward moments...)
Jokes aside, I'm starting to like this kid already :p
EDIT:
I notice something about Hayate's freezing technique, unlike Chrono's Durandal Hayate has to spend some time casting her spell, while Eternal Coffin flash freezes it.
(Oh yeah, and Teana bullying Subaru was pretty cute as well :))
Meophist
2007-04-09, 20:37
The first male in Nanoha who actually likes girls?You forgot Nanoha's oniichan.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 20:40
You forgot Nanoha's oniichan.
...Yeah, while we're at it, there's also the unnamed kid who got caught in the lost logia in season 1, episode 3.
Meophist
2007-04-09, 20:49
...Yeah, while we're at it, there's also the unnamed kid who got caught in the lost logia in season 1, episode 3.I forgot about that.
In any case, in episode 1, we saw Nanoha use Divine Buster in the flashback, and then saw Subaru use Divine Buster later on. In episode 2, we saw Fate use Sonic Move in the flashback, and then saw Elio use Sonic Move later on. I wonder if something similar will happen in the next episode.
Jellyfish Marine
2007-04-09, 20:50
OMG, Elio's in this episode!! I think I'm crying the tear of pain...there's no way I can watch the raw unless someone post it youtube or divxTT-TT. And to think that I'm in Japan,...sigh.
Anyway, from the screenshot, I found the trio's WORKAHOLIC bed post to be rather amusing yet cute (esp. Rein-chan >w<) I'm now looking forward to see Fate's Cool Rescue and my dear Elio's infamous movement:D
Oh dear, and I thought I had quited Shotacon-cult years ago. Why do you have to drag me back into that darkness, Elio-kun?
ElioxCaro~~ >w<!!
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 21:02
In any case, in episode 1, we saw Nanoha use Divine Buster in the flashback, and then saw Subaru use Divine Buster later on. In episode 2, we saw Fate use Sonic Move in the flashback, and then saw Elio use Sonic Move later on. I wonder if something similar will happen in the next episode.
Well Vita and Teana have attacks that involve projectiles, perhaps that would show up :)
Signum and Carol hav-...
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...
...
... Same hair :heh: ? (Absolutely nothing in common!)
@Jellyfish Marine
Oh dear, and I thought I had quited Shotacon-cult years ago. Why do you have to drag me back into that darkness, Elio-kun?
ElioxCaro~~ >w<!!
I called it first... WAYYY back somewhere in either the 'Fan Anticipation' or the 'Image' thread :p
Well Vita and Teana have attacks that involve projectiles, perhaps that would show up :)
Signum and Carol hav-...
...
...
...
... Same hair :heh: ? (Absolutely nothing in common!)
@Jellyfish Marine
I called it first... WAYYY back somewhere in either the 'Fan Anticipation' or the 'Image' thread :p
[What If...]
Caro is the illicit child of Signum and Hayate.
:eyespin:
CanonRap
2007-04-09, 21:12
What do you mean by "The first male in Nanoha who actually likes girls?" I find that extremely offensive :mad:
Don't. Said in jest. ;)
You forgot Nanoha's oniichan.
Oh, right. My bad.
Meophist
2007-04-09, 21:14
In any case, I actually noticed in this episode that Teana kinda seems like a younger Signum.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 21:19
[What If...]
Caro is the illicit child of Signum and Hayate.
:eyespin:
First transformers, now this? :heh:
Don't. Said in jest. ;)
Well, in any case, the right words should be "First Male in Nanoha that directly expressed his affection for girls"
:D
'directly', to me, doesn't include porno-binding(s) and sharing the same bath/bed in alternative forms...
In any case, I actually noticed in this episode that Teana kinda seems like a younger Signum.
Signum goes around butt-pinching Vita and pulling cheeks in her younger days? Which aspect of Teana are we talking about here? Also, it was already stated by Shamal that Signum in her pre-Hayate days was a lot more colder (emotionless?) and never smiled warmly.
Cheers.
Nightengale
2007-04-09, 21:24
Is is wrong that Signum x Elio came into my mind, more so than Caro x Elio?
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 21:28
Is is wrong that Signum x Elio came into my mind, more so than Caro x Elio?
Erm... Yeah... It is.
But then again, you're the only one who voted for Graham in the character poll, so perhaps it's considerably 'expected'...
EDIT:
My bad, you're one of the two :)
Meophist
2007-04-09, 21:30
Signum goes around butt-pinching Vita and pulling cheeks in her younger days? Which aspect of Teana are we talking about here? Also, it was already stated by Shamal that Signum in her pre-Hayate days was a lot more colder (emotionless?) and never smiled warmly.
Cheers.
Well, that's not quite what I meant. Of course, a "younger" Signum was actually much colder then what she is now, but…
Hrmm… when I was watching the (low low quality) episode on somebody else's monitor, from a distance, at a certain angle, Teana's hair looked pink to me. That's when I perceived similarities between Teana and Signum. Similar, but Teana seemed more immature. I guess that would've been better word to use.
They're both serious, both concentrate on their tasks, and both try to act rather selfless. I'm not very good at describing people, but that's what I think.
Alas, I am incapable of nice drawing, so you will need to visualise the following as a 4Koma within your imagination.
[What If...]
Panel 1:
Erio: "Ah! Sorry, sorry!"
Caro: "It's okay. It was just an accident after all."
Panel 2:
Erio: "Teana-san! That's such a cool jacket! Let me see, let me see!"
Teana: "Ah! Watch where your hands go!"
Panel 3:
Erio: "Piggy-back! Piggy-back!"
Subaru (with a sweatdrop): "Ahaha, Erio? Please place your hands higher."
Panel 4:
Erio: "Chrono-nii! You were right! You can get away with it after all, when you're just 10!"
Chrono (in a "Good Job" pose): "Told ya."
Fate (in the background with a dark face): "Just what have you been teaching him, dear Onii-chan of mine?"
;)
Fuyu no Sora
2007-04-09, 22:03
Hey guys. Newbie here ^^. I watched episode 2 and absolutely loved it. Nanoha, Fate and Hayate in the same bed .......... that left me thinking :heh: . I was actually expecting to see Friederich eating Elio for "taking advantage of the situation" :D. And about the 'Carol is the daughter of Hayate and Signum' I don't think so. Her name's Carol Ru-Lushe (Not a really French name but oh well) not Carol Yagami remember? ;)
Darco_emp
2007-04-09, 22:07
Alas, I am incapable of nice drawing, so you will need to visualise the following as a 4Koma within your imagination.
[What If...]
Panel 1:
Erio: "Ah! Sorry, sorry!"
Caro: "It's okay. It was just an accident after all."
Panel 2:
Erio: "Teana-san! That's such a cool jacket! Let me see, let me see!"
Teana: "Ah! Watch where your hands go!"
Panel 3:
Erio: "Piggy-back! Piggy-back!"
Subaru (with a sweatdrop): "Ahaha, Erio? Please place your hands higher."
Panel 4:
Erio: "Chrono-nii! You were right! You can get away with it after all, when you're just 10!"
Chrono (in a "Good Job" pose): "Told ya."
Fate (in the background with a dark face): "Just what have you been teaching him, dear Onii-chan of mine?"
;)
Summary execution.
Approved.
Erio is becoming more and more of a menace.... I'm counting on someone to protect the entire female loli/semi loli cast.
Nightengale
2007-04-09, 22:13
Erio is becoming more and more of a menace.... I'm counting on someone to protect the entire female loli/semi loli cast.
No need.
Chrono: Well, at your cute, bubbly age, you can get away from most, but for your sake, don't even think of trying that with the Wolke-
Elio : Ah! There's Signum-nee. Let's try it out. *runs to her side*
Chrono: Wait! Oh...shit.
I'll leave the rest to your imaginations.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 22:21
Hey guys. Newbie here ^^. I watched episode 2 and absolutely loved it. Nanoha, Fate and Hayate in the same bed .......... that left me thinking :heh: . I was actually expecting to see Friederich eating Elio for "taking advantage of the situation" :D. And about the 'Carol is the daughter of Hayate and Signum' I don't think so. Her name's Carol Ru-Lushe (Not a really French name but oh well) not Carol Yagami remember? ;)
Welcome, also as a word of advice, you shouldn't take 50% of the people here seriously... :heh:
Panel 4:
Erio: "Chrono-nii! You were right! You can get away with it after all, when you're just 10!"
Chrono (in a "Good Job" pose): "Told ya."
Fate (in the background with a dark face): "Just what have you been teaching him, dear Onii-chan of mine?"
;)
Well, as Homer Simpson once justify his reason...
"Better that they hear it from me now, than from their parents later when they're ''old enough'' :rolleyes: :rolleyes: !"
Ottocycle
2007-04-09, 22:28
Anyone tried our "friendly neighbourhood relative of Goku"s raw yet?
No need.
Chrono: Well, at your cute, bubbly age, you can get away from most, but for your sake, don't even think of trying that with the Wolke-
Elio : Ah! There's Signum-nee. Let's try it out. *runs to her side*
Chrono: Wait! Oh...shit.
I'll leave the rest to your imaginations.
Actually, given Signum's and Shamal's current personalities, I can see it happening successfully. ;) Especially Shamal. :p
Cheers.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 22:53
Actually, given Signum's and Shamal's current personalities, I can see it happening successfully. ;) Especially Shamal. :p
Cheers.
Huh? How so?
Signum anybody with one eye could see, but I didn't notice any change from Shamal... (Just to say it beforehand, if it's plain obvious I blame bad quality :p)
Not so sure if he'll try it on Vita, the results would be more or less the same as Carol :heh: so no point in risking your life there...
Chrono: Well, at your cute, bubbly age, you can get away from most, but for your sake, don't even think of trying that with the Wolke-
Elio : Ah! There's Signum-nee. Let's try it out. *runs to her side*
Chrono: Wait! Oh...shit.
Chrono: Ermmm, hi girls this is my adopted brother Erio...
Erio: Eh... Hello, nice to meet you I'm-
Lotte: Kyaaa! He's so cute!
Alia: Reminds me of you when your mother first brought you to us ;)
Chrono: Ehe, about that... You see, I was hoping that you two could take care of him, maybe show him a trick or two, until something blows over...
Alia: What happen?
Chrono: Well...
Lotte: Neinei, Chrosuke! Can I eat him!?
Erio: EH?!
Chrono: Sigh...
Meophist
2007-04-09, 22:58
We get introduced to one of the few important male characters of the series, and what do we do to him after only a little bit of screen time?
*sigh*
In any case, Elio seems to move… oddly in this episode. There's a distinct unnatural/natural factor in his movement.Anyone tried our "friendly neighbourhood relative of Goku"s raw yet?If I'm reading what you're saying correctly, yes, and it's surprisingly decent.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 23:02
We get introduced to one of the few important male characters of the series, and what do we do to him after only a little bit of screen time?
*sigh*
I (or maybe 'we') can't help it! He made such a memorable first impression! :D
3rd place: Yuuno, suprising Nanoha. (For being human)
2nd place: Chrono, single-handedly stop both Fate and Nanoha
1st place: Erio, saved the girl and (unintentionally) collects his reward in one move.
My guess is it's the 'o'...
Thats why neither Vice nor Acous nor Genya nor Griffith are going to be famous :p
Huh? How so?
Signum anybody with one eye could see, but I didn't notice any change from Shamal... (Just to say it beforehand, if it's plain obvious I blame bad quality :p)
Not so sure if he'll try it on Vita, the results would be more or less the same as Carol :heh: so no point in risking your life there... ~
Ah, no. I wasn't trying to imply that Shamal had changed in personality. I used "current" because we are not informed on what her pre-Hayate days were like, so I wanted to make it clear that I was basing my theory on what we do know of her personality.
As for Vita...
[What If...]
Panel 1:
Erio: "Vita-san, Vita-san! Can I check something?"
Vita: "Check what?"
Panel 2:
(Erio places both hands on Vita's chest area.)
Vita (shocked): "What do you think you're doing, you brat?!"
Panel 3:
Erio ("innocently"): "So it's true! Nanoha did have bigger breasts when she was nine!"
Vita (getting angry with darkened face): "Nanoha huh?"
Panel 4:
(background shadows of Vita attacking a confused Nanoha with Graf Eisen.)
"Lesson Learnt: Shift the blame onto others when doing something indecent."
~~~~ ~~~~
Cheers.
LoweGear
2007-04-09, 23:10
Huh? How so?
Chrono: Ermmm, hi girls this is my adopted brother Erio...
Erio: Eh... Hello, nice to meet you I'm-
Lotte: Kyaaa! He's so cute!
Alia: Reminds me of you when your mother first brought you to us ;)
Chrono: Ehe, about that... You see, I was hoping that you two could take care of him, maybe show him a trick or two, until something blows over...
Alia: What happen?
Chrono: Well...
Lotte: Neinei, Chrosuke! Can I eat him!?
Erio: EH?!
Chrono: Sigh...
So Elio visits Graham for advice?
Graham: *motions for Elio to come closer*
Elio: "Yes sir?"
Graham: *whispers*
Elio: *nods* Yes...
Graham: *more whispering*
Elio: "I understand sir! I'll keep that in mind sir!"
*Salutes, then runs off with BIG, sly grin on his face*
Chrono: "What did you say to him sir?"
Graham: *winks*
Chrono: *nods* "I understand sir."
Meophist
2007-04-09, 23:24
I (or maybe 'we') can't help it!No, it's not just you. It's really not just you…
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-09, 23:28
So Elio visits Graham for advice?
Graham: *motions for Elio to come closer*
Elio: "Yes sir?"
Graham: *whispers*
Elio: *nods* Yes...
Graham: *more whispering*
Elio: "I understand sir! I'll keep that in mind sir!"
*Salutes, then runs off with BIG, sly grin on his face*
Chrono: "What did you say to him sir?"
Graham: *winks*
Chrono: *nods* "I understand sir."
Hence this leads to Erio's smart play with Vita in Skane's 2nd '4Koma' :)
You know, it occured to me that we are being very malicious to poor Erio here. Smearing his reputation with tar and feathers (and dragging it thought the filth of the River Styx) before we even get to know him better. I guess first impressions do matter a lot after all. :heh:
Natch.
Meophist
2007-04-10, 00:07
You know, it occured to me that we are being very malicious to poor Erio here. Smearing his reputation with tar and feathers (and dragging it thought the filth of the River Styx) before we even get to know him better. I guess first impressions do matter a lot after all. :heh:
Natch.…
In any case, here's a few of my thoughts on Elio:
As I said, he moves oddly. I'm not sure if it's a natural or unnatural thing, but it did not look like he was trying to use Sonic Move. Furthermore, it did not look like he had good control over it. I think he was caught off-guard from its use, and then acted the best he could given the circumstances.
Next, I did not think he would use Sonic Move. Rather, I didn't think that would be a part of his style. Looking back to what we've seen of him prior to that, it makes more sense. It looks like he takes alot from Fate; in the opening it's shown that he uses a lightning attack. I believe his fighting style will be a combination of Fate's and Signum's, focusing mainly on the offensive aspects of the pair.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 00:07
You know, it occured to me that we are being very malicious to poor Erio here. Smearing his reputation with tar and feathers (and dragging it thought the filth of the River Styx) before we even get to know him better. I guess first impressions do matter a lot after all. :heh:
Natch.
But it's THIS particular first impression :heh:
Doesn't matter to me though, all the more reasons to like this show's characters :)
Aaron008R
2007-04-10, 01:23
Just a recap of previous posts...
Alas, I am incapable of nice drawing, so you will need to visualise the following as a 4Koma within your imagination.
[What If...]
Panel 1:
Erio: "Ah! Sorry, sorry!"
Caro: "It's okay. It was just an accident after all."
Panel 2:
Erio: "Teana-san! That's such a cool jacket! Let me see, let me see!"
Teana: "Ah! Watch where your hands go!"
Panel 3:
Erio: "Piggy-back! Piggy-back!"
Subaru (with a sweatdrop): "Ahaha, Erio? Please place your hands higher."
Panel 4:
Erio: "Chrono-nii! You were right! You can get away with it after all, when you're just 10!"
Chrono (in a "Good Job" pose): "Told ya."
Fate (in the background with a dark face): "Just what have you been teaching him, dear Onii-chan of mine?"
;)
Huh? How so?
Signum anybody with one eye could see, but I didn't notice any change from Shamal... (Just to say it beforehand, if it's plain obvious I blame bad quality :p)
Not so sure if he'll try it on Vita, the results would be more or less the same as Carol :heh: so no point in risking your life there...
Chrono: Ermmm, hi girls this is my adopted brother Erio...
Erio: Eh... Hello, nice to meet you I'm-
Lotte: Kyaaa! He's so cute!
Alia: Reminds me of you when your mother first brought you to us ;)
Chrono: Ehe, about that... You see, I was hoping that you two could take care of him, maybe show him a trick or two, until something blows over...
Alia: What happen?
Chrono: Well...
Lotte: Neinei, Chrosuke! Can I eat him!?
Erio: EH?!
Chrono: Sigh...
Ah, no. I wasn't trying to imply that Shamal had changed in personality. I used "current" because we are not informed on what her pre-Hayate days were like, so I wanted to make it clear that I was basing my theory on what we do know of her personality.
As for Vita...
[What If...]
Panel 1:
Erio: "Vita-san, Vita-san! Can I check something?"
Vita: "Check what?"
Panel 2:
(Erio places both hands on Vita's chest area.)
Vita (shocked): "What do you think you're doing, you brat?!"
Panel 3:
Erio ("innocently"): "So it's true! Nanoha did have bigger breasts when she was nine!"
Vita (getting angry with darkened face): "Nanoha huh?"
Panel 4:
(background shadows of Vita attacking a confused Nanoha with Graf Eisen.)
"Lesson Learnt: Shift the blame onto others when doing something indecent."
~~~~ ~~~~
Cheers.
So Elio visits Graham for advice?
Graham: *motions for Elio to come closer*
Elio: "Yes sir?"
Graham: *whispers*
Elio: *nods* Yes...
Graham: *more whispering*
Elio: "I understand sir! I'll keep that in mind sir!"
*Salutes, then runs off with BIG, sly grin on his face*
Chrono: "What did you say to him sir?"
Graham: *winks*
Chrono: *nods* "I understand sir."
*almost dead from laughing* Gah... Are you guys tryin to kill me from laughter!?
......
Please continue!:D
Though honestly, Fate would not take kindly to what you guys are doing to her little brother.:heh:
First impressions are more powerful than I ever imagined!:twitch:
The last thing Erio needs is being able to commentate on one of Chrono and Fate's (or Nanoha, or Hayate, considering Chrosuke(be)'s specialty) sparring matches, with the 'victimized' girls listening!
Julius Firefocht
2007-04-10, 02:30
I'm not even sure if Fate treats Elio as a younger brother or as a son. As a mother I am sure she would not want that "naughty" brother of hers to corrupt her child.
Unless.... ;)
*Almost Died front of his screen*
Hahaha cool some dialogues with Vita :D
About Episode 2...
Again a perfect episode? Well I need the Part where Fate's save Ginga, the man is Genya, right? Next and End of Airport incident, Thanks for Kalzbalger, i heard that the Bed Scene is just after the Airport Incident, that make sense for understand What Hayate said about Team Group... The Trio have an unstoppable friendship relation. Result of Training? Tiana and Subaru are promoted and B-Rank. A new mission awaited them... They are really funny girl after all :), ah ha i almost dead when Tiana's getting nerves. Also the Meeting of Elio and Signum, Elio's good boy, i like him and i love him a lot after the incident with Carole :D (Kyaro for Kiety), Almost dead and laughting. Two of them will really make a good Team. Carole is a beginner, that's sound Good, Starda Watch.. The Device, i want it... And about the End, it's finished with what i need... The rest of the Group + Some Incidents... What will happen in the Next? New Promotion of Hayate i think... a new mission with Tiana and Subaru.
Nanohafied
2007-04-10, 03:57
Must bear with it...must wait for HQ...must restrain!!! ARHHH when will it out!!!Grrrrrrrrrr...~~~
Darco_emp
2007-04-10, 05:20
Must bear with it...must wait for HQ...must restrain!!! ARHHH when will it out!!!Grrrrrrrrrr...~~~
Never. MAHAHAHHAHAHA..
Still i should think that the current raws are ok, there are even one or two that i will call it MQ... since there is not even a true HQ release for Ep1 yet, just make do with the current :D
Tiana and Subaru are promoted and B-Rank.They failed the exam due to their too much irresponsible and careless behavior, so they're still Rank C.
(They didn't report-in at the point of injury, their last dash that could've resulted in fatal concequence, etc)
Look at stern expression on Nanoha's face as she tell them that they failed... man, Nanoha-san really grew a lot. :uhoh:
Estavali
2007-04-10, 06:32
I'm not sure if you folks have already noticed, but after watching the OP with a proper avi, I realised some things.
1) In the part where the newbies are shown with their respective team leaders (and doing the uniform-changing thingy), their names and the names of their devices are found at the bottom part of the screen.
2) It appears that Subaru's Revolver Knuckles are not the only ones that does a spinning attack. If you look carefully at the part where Eriol lands and pierces the ground with Strada, you'll find that its "blade" area is also spinning aka like a drill.
~ 2) It appears that Subaru's Revolver Knuckles are not the only ones that does a spinning attack. If you look carefully at the part where Eriol lands and pierces the ground with Strada, you'll find that its "blade" area is also spinning aka like a drill.
? I checked this part of the OP, but the blade is not spinning.
Cheers.
JediNight
2007-04-10, 07:01
My assessment of Erio has improved somewhat after seeing him this episode. Seems like Carol will be the dead weight in that squad =\ I mean, she's even wearing a Final Fantasy white mage cloak when we meet her, and at best she might have medic abilities, since no "instant healing" spells exist in the Nanoha universe it seems :)
And I wonder how Nanoha knew that Subaru was trying to copy her spell? I don't think she heard her shouting out the spell name. But Subaru's Divine Buster didn't look anything like Nanoha's...
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 07:08
I don't know about that...
If there's one thing I've learnt, is never underestimate little girls...
Take Nanoha for example, back in the first two episodes of season one, I bet nobody would expect her to grow from that, to someone who nukes anything that doesn't go her way without (much) hesitation...
If that doesn't convince you, remember that the scariest thing in any horror game/movie is the "little girl"... :uhoh:
Caro also has a "pet" dragon. Her personal ranking may be C+, but it matters not if she can get Friedrich to "evolve".
Cheers.
Caro also is good at support magic, expecially those of "boost"(enhancement?) category.
While she might be weak herself, she would be invaluable to team if her presence can make team's strength tenfold.
My assessment of Erio has improved somewhat after seeing him this episode. Seems like Carol will be the dead weight in that squad =\ I mean, she's even wearing a Final Fantasy white mage cloak when we meet her, and at best she might have medic abilities, since no "instant healing" spells exist in the Nanoha universe it seems :)
If there's anything I learned from MMOGs, it's never to underestimate the importance of a healer. Or a support class, for that matter. Buff the party to uber levels, debuff the enemy to uselessness, and it's a cakewalk. Besides, I'm not sure if they've actually mentioned what Caro's abilities are; maybe she's just as much a blaster as Nanoha.
Also, technically there is at least one near-instant healing mage in the Nanoha-verse: Shamal, in episode 12 of A's. If it's not actual healing, then it's probably some sort of MP-restorative ability.
Darco_emp
2007-04-10, 07:22
Caro needs to be at least be able to cast Haste then :D. I was thinking that if her pet dragon can morph in to a bigger Dragon in battle and cast frost bearth that will be win.
JediNight
2007-04-10, 07:25
She's like a L10 white mage in a party with a L90 red mage though ;)
She's like a L10 white mage in a party with a L90 red mage though ;)
More like Lvl-16 to Lvl-76 if you want to follow my ranking theory (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=889875&postcount=352). :)
Cheers.
JediNight
2007-04-10, 07:46
I still don't see how Hayate is the most powerful mage? Is it because of her Legion form and having like 3 different magical devices that she gets "hax points" that boost her? hehe
I still don't see how Hayate is the most powerful mage? Is it because of her Legion form and having like 3 different magical devices that she gets "hax points" that boost her? hehe
Your guess is as good as mine. The producers have been fairly vague on how Hayate fights in her battles. The one scene (from manga) that involve her fighting a real opponent only show her casting ONE spell in what was an extremely one-sided match (Hayate and R-Zwei had running commentary while they beat up the enemy, to put it one way).
Until they show Hayate fighting against a "credible" opponent, there is little way we can gauge her combat prowess.
Cheers.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 07:58
My guess is because she's using a lost logia.
Despite it being considerably weaken, it's still a pretty impressive tool... Probably allows her to store more spells.
johnjefferson3
2007-04-10, 08:09
she just techinally strongest since she's the only one who continued taking the official tests so that she could still be even more offically promoted up to even higher military ranks, nanoha and fate are just happy where they are now and just are teaching the next generation how to make friends and become a stong person, but eveyone knows that the true strongest person is nanoha since she just a pure happy smart girl and is smart in everything with the exception of how to make a relationship with a man, hyate is stupid and slow, but she just basicaly has renifore since they are snobs and cheat all the time by looking up stuff in their magic books that they carry, i mean if i had my text book with me at all times when i took a test during school i would have have all a's too, but i got them all just using by brain which is why i still remember things all these years later, hayate is just a loser and a joke that got to where she is, becuase no one else want nothing to do with her, and who in the TSAB wants to hang around another brat with a brat of her own that is 30 cm, and after 10 years later still can not even do 1 spell on her own, no wonder nanoha and fate had to become teachers since TSAB education is just like it is here right now, a complete failure!!!!
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 08:14
(Ouch... My head... No more walls please....)
Btw, we're talking about her MAGE rank, not her military rank.
Ouch... One topic at a time for me... I'm sure the other more experience folks here would gladly tear that apart into bite sizes portion... I'll be reply in the form of edits once i can slowly understand this piece of Literature
Edit 1: Also, you don't get promoted to a high rank like Lt Colonel through a simple test.
Edit 2: Also, the tome is her device, all her spells are casted by herself.
Edit 3: Also, I realise that you're assuming too much about her social circle.
Edit 4: Also, remember that the mage tests involve firepower as much as skill., those that do require written examination means that they don't use devices so the tome won't be of much use.
Edit 5: Also, Hayate has to fill her book with spells again. When Reinforce 'died' in A's, I believe the book got reformated.
Edit 6: Also, Fate isn't an instructor.
Edit 7: Also, Hayate was able to take command of the rescue operation in this episode.
Edit 8: Also, No where did it mention that TSAB have lousy education system.
Edit 9: Also, I would NEVER EVER use the word 'innocent' when describing Hayate.
... Did I missed anything?
Darco_emp
2007-04-10, 08:18
Meh we still don't know how Hayate is using of the old YnS. It can easily be something that "saves" big and long spell and make it instant castble in battle and such.
FlameSparkZ
2007-04-10, 08:35
Well, I was expecting Friedrich to have a more mature voice, due to it's appearance...oh well.
"Erio-kun...good job!" *thumbs up*
Btw, that part in the OP, when the four are attacking the drone-thing, Elio just spins Strada to look cool :D
In addition: Yay, Strada talks! *celebrates*
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 08:36
Actually... I think I might know why Hayate have such an edge over the common mage with the book =)
Taken from Wiki...
Ceremonial spells
There are fewer ceremonial spells seen in the series than any other spell type, and are thought to be the most complex. Considerable time or magical power is needed to cast such spells, and they may have long arias as passphrases. Examples include Thunder Fall, and the first Reinforce's final spell
It's not easy to remember tons of words right? Well, the tome probably have all of Hayate's chant written down, hence it's alot easier for her to dish out these big hitters. :)
johnjefferson3
2007-04-10, 08:39
like i sayed in my previous statement (i was refering to both military and magical levels) hayate only got to SS, since she was the only one to take the ss exam so she got it by defualt, since she always has renifore with her,(with renifore and it practactly impossible to fail) nanoha and fate stoped taking the harder tests themselves years ago, (it was meantion in a drama cd)since they teach the new people now, hyate only took the ss test since it was required to be taken if hayate wanted to move up the miliaty chain of command, which she and renifore , both wanted, and which they both did, but only hayate got that rank since she was one that was actually doing all the magic during the test, even those renfore has her own indivuial magic level!!!!!
if you are a super nanoha fan then everyone here should have know this allready by now, if not, you have some things to learn, since i knew this a few months ago!!!
p.s if nanoha and fate were to take those tests sometime in the future they would definatly hands down score higher then hayate ever would since they would be doing ther stuff using knowledge that they learned themselves and would be able to max out their full potential, since they would have no doubts of what they can do or can not do, since hayate allays needs to reed her book to do anything with magic and that is a serious flaw that i know someday will cause her a major problem with a major enemy in the future!!!!!!!!
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 08:50
since she was the only one to take the ss exam so she got it by defualt
One, you don't pass a test by "default", it's not a Competition.
since she always has renifore with her,(with renifore and it practactly impossible to fail)
Two, Reinforce Zwei is not Reinforce, their Capabilities are different. Rein is still considered 'learning'...
since i knew this a few months ago!!!
I'm assuming you're refering to information from the drama sound stage that came out last month?
since they teach the new people now
Fate is not an instructor.
p.s if nanoha and fate were to take those tests sometime in the future they would definatly hands down score higher then hayate ever would since they would be doing ther stuff using knowledge that they learned themselves and would be able to max out their full potential
You do recalling them reformating the book? Hence most, if not all of the previous spells are deleted? Thats means whatever they have now is picked up ever since then.
since hayate allays needs to reed her book to do anything with magic and that is a serious flaw that i know someday will cause her a major problem with a major enemy in the future!!!!!!!!
Those are called Ceremonial spells, they're meant to be long because they pack more firepower. What Nanoha and Fate and the others use are lesser spells.
Thanks, but I'll pass on the 'Super Nanoha Fan' title, I'm just a common Anime fan...
P.S - Can someone confirm this information he claims from the recent sound stage? Cause I can't understand much japanese...
My guess is because she's using a lost logia.
Despite it being considerably weaken, it's still a pretty impressive tool... Probably allows her to store more spells.
Satire Senses tingling...
[What If...] (this is going to be long...)
(After securing some Lost Logias, Hayate and the four scrubs are suddenly attacked by an unknown entity)
Hayate: "This guy is..."
Subaru: "This is it! This, this, this is it! I'll do it this time. I won't embarrass myself in front of Teana!"
Hayate: "Ah! Well, well! If it isn't one of the Shadow Organisation's leaders, Mid-Boss, eh?"
Subaru (to herself): "Leader? Well, who cares? Right now I have to... Ready... Go!"
Hayate (blocking Subaru with her staff): "You're in the way. Get back."
Subaru: "Why?!"
Hayate: "Compared to the previous opponents, this guy is very different. It will be much tougher... to fight him..."
Mid-Boss: "To think that I finally get the chance to meet the famed Tome of the Night Sky's mistress, Hayate Yagami... Apologies for the intrusion but... I will need you to hand over the Lost Logias."
Subaru (to herself): "Huh? Tome of the Night Sky? What the Hell is that?!"
Caro (to herself): "What are they talking about? She's strong?"
Erio (to himself): "Tome of the Night Sky?"
Hayate: "Troops! Get into a defensive formation and protect the Lost Logias. Stay out of the fight. That's my request as a team-mate. *signals R-Zwei and stares at Mid-Boss* Pick on someone your own size. UNISON IN!"
Subaru (to herself): "Wha-What did she just do?"
Mid-Boss: "Oh? Finally the chance to see the legendary Tome of the Night Sky... I am honoured."
Subaru: "Tome of the Night Sky! Tome of the Night Sky! What the Hell is that?"
Teana: "The Tome of the Night Sky... it is a power borne from Lost Logia and represented by a tome. Its' masters can use it to absorb Linker Cores and store the magic energy within its' pages. However, the Tome of the Night Sky isn't just that."
Mid-Boss: "Exactly. That's not all... What's also amazing... is that you have the ability to read your opponent's techniques and copy them. When I was first joined the Shadow Organisation, we kept a handbook which had information on you... The girl who can copy a thousand spells... Copy Mahou Shoujo Hayate."
Caro (to herself): "What's going on? LTC Hayate is that incredible?"
Subaru: "Wow!"
Teana (to herself): "What's going on? The Tome of the Night Sky is supposed to be a sealed item by the TSAB. Why does she..."
Mid-Boss: "Now, let's get it over and be done with. I have to capture those Lost Logias."
(the four scrubs surround the Lost Logias in a defensive position while Hayate faces Mid-Boss)
Mid-Boss: "But it seems I have to defeat you first, Hayate!"
(Mid-Boss makes his move)
~and so it continues~
Cheers. ;)
They failed the exam due to their too much irresponsible and careless behavior, so they're still Rank C.
(They didn't report-in at the point of injury, their last dash that could've resulted in fatal concequence, etc)
Look at stern expression on Nanoha's face as she tell them that they failed... man, Nanoha-san really grew a lot. :uhoh:
Oh thanks, I made a terrible mistake. I need to rewatch i think... maybe i didn't understand better that situation... So they really failed... Thanks for correction, oh maybe it will be better when i can see sub. Anyway thanks Thisguy
Key Board
2007-04-10, 09:05
she's stronger because she can combine with Rin
everyone knows that super robots who can combine are very strong!
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 09:07
@Skane
Despite having more 'cheese' than the entire 'Kyoshiro to Towa no Sora' series, and having Blatant rip-offs from Naruto and Disgaea...
I do like the kakashi reference :)
Anyway, as I've mention soon after that, my second guess is that Hayate's packing more of these big hitter spells than both Fate and Nanoha since the tome would allow she to cast them faster...
Ceremonial spells
There are fewer ceremonial spells seen in the series than any other spell type, and are thought to be the most complex. Considerable time or magical power is needed to cast such spells, and they may have long arias as passphrases. Examples include Thunder Fall, and the first Reinforce's final spell
@Skane
Despite having more 'cheese' than the entire 'Kyoshiro to Towa no Sora' series, and having Blatant rip-offs from Naruto and Disgaea...
I do like the kakashi reference :)
Anyway, as I've mention soon after that, my second guess is that Hayate's packing more of these big hitter spells than both Fate and Nanoha since the tome would allow she to cast them faster...
Cheers.
About the tome, I am hoping that they will show Hayate dual-casting spells. ;) This is because R-Zwei is capable of casting spells on her own, even when in unison with Hayate. I think it is a pretty cool concept.
So far... the only mage we have seen dual-casting is the original Reinforce, so it is not too far-fetched that Hayate might be able to do it too, with R-Zwei's help of course.
Interestingly, after examining her devices on the official character page. It seems that the book is the one holding the original Reinforce emblem. Can someone confirm this? If this is so, then R-Zwei is not the descendant of Reinforce, but merely an original artificial AI-device, while the book is the real descendant of Reinforce. The staff is just a "normal" non-intelligent device.
About Fate and Nanoha passing the SS-Ranking Exams, I can also claim that Vita will easily pass them and my claim will be as equally valid. Until they actually take the exams, we won't know how they will fare in them.
Claiming they will pass the exam is one thing. Actually doing so is another.
Additionally, the complaint about Hayate being a cheater by using a storage device just seems silly. Chrono also uses storage devices and was ranked higher than Nanoha and Fate in A's. Does that also make him a cheater?
The TSAB is not running the Olympics here. They are a military organisation, and in the military, there is no such thing as honour in using lesser weaponry. If you are capable of using a ballistic missile, you damn well better use it when necessary instead of saying how it is "robbing" glory from the rifle-toting infantrymen.
A better question would be... why can't Fate and Nanoha use storage devices as well? Mind you, Hayate is using three devices simultaneously. Multitasking is no mean feat.
Mage-ranking is also not just about power, but skill in application of spells and general knowledge. Chrono's ranking is testament to this. What could Fate and Nanoha do about stopping the fire at the airport?
Nanoha? Starlight Breaker the entire place and let Fate sort them out? Hell no. Stardust Fall? No, just no. Until Nanoha starts to learn more types of magic, she will be limited in what she can do. Same goes for Fate.
Nanoha may be contended with her role as an Instructor, while Fate is with her role as Investigator; but contention also means stagnation of skills. Until they actively strive to aim higher, they will never exceed Hayate's Mage-ranking.
Narf.
murklins
2007-04-10, 11:52
Nanoha already knows lots of types of magic... she offered to heal Teana and created an interesting barrier type in episode 1 alone. Whether or not she's GOOD at them... yeah. I'm looking forward to the training episode(s) to come, regardless.
If anything, Subaru and Teana failing the test is even more evidence that ranks are worthless for comparing power levels... they're still just as powerful, but no shiny button for them! Makes sense though, since there are probably minimum mage-rank levels for high-level positions in the TSAB and advancing people who aren't ready for the attention that implies isn't a very good idea.
It's clear that there's a ceiling for anyone not interested in command in the TSAB; Nanoha and Fate have probably come close to hitting it if they haven't already. They're probably more famous than their higher ups (ok... most of Hayate's higher ups) anyway, who cares. :p
Village Idiot
2007-04-10, 12:02
Nanoha already knows lots of types of magic... she offered to heal Teana and created an interesting barrier type in episode 1 alone. Whether or not she's GOOD at them... yeah. I'm looking forward to the training episode(s) to come, regardless.
If anything, Subaru and Teana failing the test is even more evidence that ranks are worthless for comparing power levels... they're still just as powerful, but no shiny button for them! Makes sense though, since there are probably minimum mage-rank levels for high-level positions in the TSAB and advancing people who aren't ready for the attention that implies isn't a very good idea.
It's clear that there's a ceiling for anyone not interested in command in the TSAB; Nanoha and Fate have probably come close to hitting it if they haven't already. They're probably more famous than their higher ups (ok... most of Hayate's higher ups) anyway, who cares. :p
Subaru/Teana failing the B-Rank exam is the opposite of why Chrono made AAA+ Rank, despite being weaker than Nanoha/Fate back in Season One.
FlameSparkZ
2007-04-10, 12:47
Subaru/Teana failing the B-Rank exam is the opposite of why Chrono made AAA+ Rank, despite being weaker than Nanoha/Fate back in Season One.
Nanoha pointed out what they did wrong, but I didn't understand much :heh:
Somehow I don't see Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate worrying about how their mage rankings put them and care more about the results of using that power..
mikemil828
2007-04-10, 14:20
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In any case, here's a few of my thoughts on Elio:
As I said, he moves oddly. I'm not sure if it's a natural or unnatural thing, but it did not look like he was trying to use Sonic Move.
I would have thought that was obvious. The armed device initiates the spell itself, not the mage, otherwise it would be too late by the time the mage reacts for it to be any good
JediNight
2007-04-10, 14:28
If anything, Subaru and Teana failing the test is even more evidence that ranks are worthless for comparing power levels... they're still just as powerful, but no shiny button for them! Makes sense though, since there are probably minimum mage-rank levels for high-level positions in the TSAB and advancing people who aren't ready for the attention that implies isn't a very good idea.
It's clear that there's a ceiling for anyone not interested in command in the TSAB; Nanoha and Fate have probably come close to hitting it if they haven't already. They're probably more famous than their higher ups (ok... most of Hayate's higher ups) anyway, who cares. :p
Nanoha said that they failed the test, because they put themselves into too much danger completing it, and lack of information gathering I think? (houkoku furyou) I assume it has to do with their crazy charge into the barriers at the end. She does say though, that there isn't any question as to their skill/power levels. "Those that can't keep their own partner safe, won't be able to protect anyone."
Next part I'm not entirely sure on as I don't want to spend the time on it, but the recommendations let them do something 3 days from now. I believe they are both given special permission to train at the main office, despite failing the exam is what it is. So starting next week they will have a whole new set of strict sempai's to meet she says. Then they get offered a spot in Mobile Group 6 of course.
So apparently Teana and Subaru are still Rank-C mages then, but their actual power level is around Rank-B.
Meophist
2007-04-10, 14:49
I would have thought that was obvious. The armed device initiates the spell itself, not the mage, otherwise it would be too late by the time the mage reacts for it to be any goodI don't think so. I understand that there are some automatic spells(Raising Heart's Protection spell in the first season), but using a movement spell like that without the user's explicit activation can be incredibly dangerous.
In any case, I remember reading somewhere that the mage ranks in Nanoha goes between F and SSS. I forgot where I read that though.
JediNight
2007-04-10, 14:55
I took it more as, the device knows their master well enough to predict what they want to do, or there is a mental link that lets them sense what action the master wants to take. At any rate, I'm sure the device only readies the spell, and it's still up to the master to mentally use it.
Village Idiot
2007-04-10, 15:33
Hmm Elio seems to already have his Armed Device and probably already passed the Rank B exam.
Might he actually be the most experienced of the newbies?
Hmm Elio seems to already have his Armed Device and probably already passed the Rank B exam.
Might he actually be the most experienced of the newbies?
I wonder know how he acquire the Strada Device...
I just imagine that's very rare to find Device who can talked...
Outlaender
2007-04-10, 16:07
I thought the episode was quite solid, if not terribly flashy and dramatic. I did enjoy the airport disaster flashback. I winced a bit when Fate blasted through the wall.
I kept picturing, " oops, my bad, looks like I wasted some civs. :heh: "
I have to agree that Hayate's transformation in mid-run was damn cool :cool: .
Finally, a Mahou Shoujo show that doesn't interrupt the action to show a stock footage transform sequence :p
Points also for Carol _not_ going off into a hissy fit for Erio's slip-of-the-hands, after he saved her from a nasty spill. Minus a bit for Carol's ditziness. :p I do hope that Friedrich's usefullness is > being a kawaii creature for the show.
I'm half cringing/half laughing at Rein's appearrances though. I mean, does she _really_ fill out her role as a _Seargeant Major_? :heh: Grizzled, weatherbeaten veteran she is not. I mean, what Sergeant (Major) would be caught going "Wai! Wai! " o.o Afterall, a noncoms supposed to be the backbone of a troop, providing the breadth of experience and confidence that keeps the troops on their toes. Rein's still learning on the job, as it were.
I'll have to wait for a fansub, before I get any of the dialogue. I'm looking forward to Subaru and Teeana's, and Nanoha and Fate's discussions.
Looks like the official inspection of the unit is up next time- why are Carol and Erio standing next to the cooks!?
I winced a bit when Fate blasted through the wall.
I kept picturing, " oops, my bad, looks like I wasted some civs. :heh: "
I think Bardiche would have warned Fate if she was about to shoot someone through the wall.
Remember how bardiche detected Arisa and Suzuka in A's ?
They were a few blocks away, yet Bardiche spotted them.
Fuyu no Sora
2007-04-10, 16:42
About Rein and Hayate: Hayate's book is the Tome of the Night Sky, while Rein's is the Book of Heavens. Besides, being SS or S+ doesn't affect the three girls' friendship. My thoughts on Elio:
Elio: Chrono nii-san. I'm home.
Chrono: Hi Elio. How was your day?
Elio: Chrono nii-san remember that trick you taught me?
Chrono: The Sonic Move one?
Elio: Yeah that one. I tried it out today
Chrono: So? How was it?
Elio (thumbs up): It worked.
Chrono: See? I told you it would
Fate suddenly arrives in time to listen to the last part
Fate: Onii-sama....
Chrono: Ah, Fate! Don't sneak up on me!
Fate: Elio go to your room.
Elio: But Fate nee-san
Fate puts on a really scary face
Fate: Eliooooooo......
*Runs faster than the wind and locks the door in his room once there*
Turns to Chrono
Fate: So Onii-sama?
Chrono (thinking): Bad, bad, extremely bad. The only times she calls me Onii-sama is when she's about to skin me :upset: .
Chrono: W-w-what F-F-Fate?
Fate: Come with me, Onii-sama.
I'll leave the rest to your imaginations :D
blitz1/2
2007-04-10, 16:48
About Rein and Hayate: Hayate's book is the Tome of the Night Sky, while Rein's is the Book of Heavens. Besides, being SS or S+ doesn't affect the three girls' friendship. My thoughts on Elio:
Elio: Chrono nii-san. I'm home.
Chrono: Hi Elio. How was your day?
Elio: Chrono nii-san remember that trick you taught me?
Chrono: The Sonic Move one?
Elio: Yeah that one. I tried it out today
Chrono: So? How was it?
Elio (thumbs up): It worked.
Chrono: See? I told you it would
Fate suddenly arrives in time to listen to the last part
Fate: Onii-sama....
Chrono: Ah, Fate! Don't sneak up on me!
Fate: Elio go to your room.
Elio: But Fate nee-san
Fate puts on a really scary face
Fate: Eliooooooo......
*Runs faster than the wind and locks the door in his room once there*
Turns to Chrono
Fate: So Onii-sama?
Chrono (thinking): Bad, bad, extremely bad. The only times she calls me Onii-sama is when she's about to skin me :upset: .
Chrono: W-w-what F-F-Fate?
Fate: Come with me, Onii-sama.
I'll leave the rest to your imaginations :D
I see bones!
Kyosuke86
2007-04-10, 17:13
she just techinally strongest since she's the only one who continued taking the official tests so that she could still be even more offically promoted up to even higher military ranks, nanoha and fate are just happy where they are now and just are teaching the next generation how to make friends and become a stong person, but eveyone knows that the true strongest person is nanoha since she just a pure happy smart girl and is smart in everything with the exception of how to make a relationship with a man, hyate is stupid and slow, but she just basicaly has renifore since they are snobs and cheat all the time by looking up stuff in their magic books that they carry, i mean if i had my text book with me at all times when i took a test during school i would have have all a's too, but i got them all just using by brain which is why i still remember things all these years later, hayate is just a loser and a joke that got to where she is, becuase no one else want nothing to do with her, and who in the TSAB wants to hang around another brat with a brat of her own that is 30 cm, and after 10 years later still can not even do 1 spell on her own, no wonder nanoha and fate had to become teachers since TSAB education is just like it is here right now, a complete failure!!!!
Smoke intelligently....and please get your facts right before you become another joke of the day again.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 18:59
About Rein and Hayate: Hayate's book is the Tome of the Night Sky, while Rein's is the Book of Heavens. Besides, being SS or S+ doesn't affect the three girls' friendship. My thoughts on Elio:
Elio: Chrono nii-san. I'm home.
Chrono: Hi Elio. How was your day?
Elio: Chrono nii-san remember that trick you taught me?
Chrono: The Sonic Move one?
Elio: Yeah that one. I tried it out today
Chrono: So? How was it?
Elio (thumbs up): It worked.
Chrono: See? I told you it would
Fate suddenly arrives in time to listen to the last part
Fate: Onii-sama....
Chrono: Ah, Fate! Don't sneak up on me!
Fate: Elio go to your room.
Elio: But Fate nee-san
Fate puts on a really scary face
Fate: Eliooooooo......
*Runs faster than the wind and locks the door in his room once there*
Turns to Chrono
Fate: So Onii-sama?
Chrono (thinking): Bad, bad, extremely bad. The only times she calls me Onii-sama is when she's about to skin me :upset: .
Chrono: W-w-what F-F-Fate?
Fate: Come with me, Onii-sama.
I'll leave the rest to your imaginations :D
Yeah... Me, Skane and LoweGear already explored this :)
With just one minor problem... 'Sonic Move' is Fate's move, not Chrono's :heh:...
As for my imagination...
Fate: Come with me, Onii-sama.
... Is probably not the same as what others would be thinking...:heh: :D :)
Fuyu no Sora
2007-04-10, 19:12
Who's to say Fate didn't learnt it off Chrono?:D It would make my story credible
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 19:55
Well, that might be true, but I'm inclined to believe that it's an upgraded version of her Sonic Form...
... One where she doesn't have to shed any clothings to gain speed.
It's practically "Shunpo" :)
mist2123
2007-04-10, 20:28
Hi-def raw is out :) :) ;)
ep 2 script leak
[09:15] <Varion> Zafira: RAWR << I R A TIGER
Hi-def raw is out :) :) ;)
If you are referring to what I think you are thinking, isn't there a comment on their website says, "Is this some kind of late April Fools' Joke? It's an rar of Genshiken Manga." :rolleyes:
mist2123
2007-04-10, 20:57
WTF its a joke
So, if the new group is to be called Riot Squad 6 or something, do they ever mention why it's the number six? That implies numbers one to five or something.
Aaron008R
2007-04-10, 22:19
Hmm Elio seems to already have his Armed Device and probably already passed the Rank B exam.
Might he actually be the most experienced of the newbies?
Hah, impressive. Who knows, he might pull of a Chrono and be AAA+ by around 15! Looks like the second coming of Chrono is not just for fanfic material.:D
Maybe he should be tutored by the Lieze Twins after all! Though I think Fate would be reluctant to do that.:heh:
JediNight
2007-04-10, 22:45
Mobile Division/Group 6, yes. And one would assume there are 5 other groups ;)
It's just that this group is being commissioned for a new role/tactics than the other groups currently do.
Fuyu no Sora
2007-04-10, 23:00
Hah, impressive. Who knows, he might pull of a Chrono and be AAA+ by around 15! Looks like the second coming of Chrono is not just for fanfic material.:D
Maybe he should be tutored by the Lieze Twins after all! Though I think Fate would be reluctant to do that.:heh:
I wouldn't be surprised if he pulled something ŕ la Chrono. He's a Belka-style mage and he has the best Enforcer of the TSAB as his sister and the commander of the warship Athra as a brother, so with that tutoring I would expect great things from him. Unless Chrono delivers him to the Lieze twins. I can already imagine it:
Chrono: Hi girls. It's been a while.
Lotte: Chrosuke! What are you doing here?
Aria: And who's the red-haired boy that follows you?
Chrono: Ah, sorry. This is Elio Mondial, my little brother.
Elio: Nice to meet you. My name is Elio Mondial.
Lotte: Wah! How cute! May I eat him?
Aria: Lotte!
Chrono: Ha ha ha. Actually I came over to leave him here so you can train him for awhile.
Aria, Lotte and Elio: WHAT?! SERIOUSLY?!
Chrono: Yeah.
Lotte (with stars in her eyes): I accept!
Elio (looking really frightened): Chrono nii-san........
Aria: Oh well. Since you are the one who's asking....
Chrono: So it's okay?
Aria: Yeah, sure.
Chrono: Thanks girls.
Aria and Lotte are already dragging poor Elio somewhere else.
Elio: Chrono nii-san
Chrono: Good luck Elio.
He turns away and leaves
Elio: CHRONO NII-SANNNNNN!!!!!
Chrono (talking to himself): Ha ha. Poor Elio. But then again he's the one who asked me to take him to the teacher I had when I was young.
Honestly poor Elio, don't you think? ;) . Besides if that happened, Fate would kill Chrono :D
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-10, 23:12
Mobile Division/Group 6, yes. And one would assume there are 5 other groups ;)
It's just that this group is being commissioned for a new role/tactics than the other groups currently do.
In other words, only this "Riot Force 6" has the specialized purpose of retrieving Lost Logias...
Hence the 'Lost Property' part :)
Nightengale
2007-04-10, 23:26
Watching this episode made me feel a strange feeling in my tummy...
Maybe it's due to the fact that technically, all of those flying, generic looking TSAB officers with standard uniforms are more powerful than Teana and Subaru...
Or maybe my image of Genya is ruined when I saw him running/walking, and not flying to the accident scene. Well, I never really liked him to begin with, so it doesn't really matter, but still... Yuuno or Lindy didn't need devices to fly either. I'm being picky, but whatever. Graham >>> Genya
Or Subaru being oblivious of Lost Logias...Well, that or Nanoha and co. feels almost stalker-ish. I know the looking out from the window/observing from far thing is pretty common in anime for the "effect", but still...
Or maybe I'm getting Elio x Signum vibes more than Caro x Elio vibes... a ratio of 1 to 0.999~.
Or maybe because I keep asking myself "Why are thou trapped with book-arranging, Yuuno?" everytime I see Shamal flex her rings as a support mage. Same goes to Arf/Zafira.
I dunno. I'm just weird I suppose.
~ Honestly poor Elio, don't you think? ;) . Besides if that happened, Fate would kill Chrono :D
[What If...] (a bit long...)
(The scene is Chrono's bunk. Chrono is reading on his bed as a knock is heard on his door.)
Chrono (without glancing from his magazine): "Who is it?"
Erio: "Chro-Chrono-nii. It's me, Erio."
Chrono (looks at the door): "Ah, if it isn't my adorable little brother. Come on in."
(The door opens and we can see a nervous Erio coming in.)
Chrono: "So, how was your first lesson with the Lieze-twins?"
Erio: "It-it was... educational."
Chrono (smiling fondly): "Isn't it? Savour it, kid."
Erio (shocked): "There won't be any more lessons?"
Chrono: "Oh ho! You want more?"
Erio (flustered): "Well... I... You see... *puppy-eyes at Chrono*"
Chrono (places his magazine down and places one hand around Erio, whispering conspiratorially): "It takes a lot to arrange this with the Lieze-twins, Erio-kun. What can you offer to make this easier?"
Erio (panicking): "Of-Offer? I... erm..."
Chrono: "I know! You have three cute co-workers right? What were their names again? Teana, Subaru, and... Caro?"
Erio (getting worried): "Y-Yes."
Chrono: "You know what this is? *uses sleight of hand to produce a miniature web-cam* This is the eye of Men, Erio-kun, and Men have needs, yes?"
Erio (realisation starts to dawn upon him): "But if they find-"
Chrono (cuts Erio short): "I'm sure you will find a way. Just think of the greater goal at hand, Erio-kun (waves a hand to the side in the air). More lessons with the Lieze-twins. I can even arrange for special ones if you perform well in this task. VERY... special lessons, Erio-kun. *winks at Erio*"
Erio (sweating): "What... must I do?"
(Chrono gets up and walks to his desk. Pulling out a drawer, he takes out a blueprint...)
Erio: "That's the girls' dormitory!"
Chrono: "Aye! And with you being their team-mate, you have special permission to access the compound within reason. It helps of course, that you are only ten years old. Nobody ever suspects a ten year old."
Erio: "This... This is impossible. If I ever get caught, it will be the end of me! Fate-neesama alone will kill me!"
Chrono: "Oh? I see... so that's how it is. *starts rolling up the blueprint* Such a pity. I guess this is where the spring of your youth ends, then."
Erio (wavering): "It's not that I don't want to... but..."
Chrono: "Not enough incentive? Really, kid. You drive a hard bargain. Tell you what. You do this for me, and not only will I arrange for more lessons with the Lieze-twins, I will throw in a business trip with them."
Erio: "Business trip?"
Chrono: "Two weeks. Alone. With the Lieze-twins."
Erio: "E-Erio Mondial. Setting out!"
Chrono: "That's the spirit, kid."
Erio: "Aren't you worried about Fate-neesama finding out?"
Chrono: "Erio-kun, she doesn't even know I have a picture book of her."
Erio: "You have a picture book of her?!"
Chrono: "Want to see it?"
Erio (with mouth stuck open): "..."
Chrono (patting Erio on the head): "Maybe it is a little too much for you at this point. Next time, eh? When you have grown up a little."
Erio (with tears in his eyes): "Chrono-nii... you're the best..."
Chrono: "You bet I am."
Key Board
2007-04-10, 23:49
I don't think Genya is a mage.
In section 6 alone there are at least 4 non mages
Chrono: "Erio-kun, she doesn't even know I have a picture book of her."
Erio: "You have a picture book of her?!"
Chrono: "Want to see it?"
Erio (with mouth stuck open): "..."
Chrono (patting Erio on the head): "Maybe it is a little too much for you at this point. Next time, eh? When you have grown up a little."
Erio (with tears in his eyes): "Chrono-nii... you're the best..."
Chrono: "You bet I am."
A whole photo book of Fate-chan? Since in her 9-year-old? If Chrono really owns a such book I am dead to see it. No kidding.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-11, 00:48
People people! We're going about this the wrong way! There's a simpler method for Chrono to pull this off! :)
Erio: Chrono Ni-san, for the last time it's an accident!
Chrono: Uh-huh, sure... Listen this is just between us guys, but you should've picked somewhere more discreet... But I guess it's a good start for a kid... Playing the hero always seem to get the girls...
Erio: I didn't plan on it, and I'm not a kid!!!
Chrono: Yes you are.
Erio: No I'm not!
Chrono: Is that so...?
Erio: Yes!
Chrono: Then prove it to me.
Erio: Fine! How?
Chrono: Go buy me a porno magazine.
Erio: Deal! Wait, what's that?
Chrono: You don’t know? It’s a magazine aimed at adults, and it’s really exciting to read. It really turns you on.
Erio: Hmm...
Chrono: Go up to the store manager and ask, "Can I have a pornographic magazine?" If there's more than one, get anything the store manager recommends.
Erio: Okay! I can read it too, right?
Chrono: Sure, only if you're old enough...
Erio: I'm old enough!
(Runs off...)
Chrono: Now then... Time to get back to work...
....But your is funny too Skane :)
EDIT:
A whole photo book of Fate-chan? Since in her 9-year-old? If Chrono really owns a such book I am dead to see it. No kidding.
It shall be the very book more sort after than the book of darkness... In a sense, it IS a book of darkness :D
Nightengale
2007-04-11, 01:00
I don't think Genya is a mage.
In section 6 alone there are at least 4 non mages
Hmm...I was under the personal impression that he is, considering his wife and 2 daughters are. Or maybe the magic runs in the XX-chromosome of the Nakajima bloodline, or whatever family name of the waifu Genya tapped. Whatever.
Regardless, I want my dose of old, experienced and sophisticated male mage.
...
I'm surprised how far all of you are going with the whole ero-ChroEliosuke (( god, that sounded...yaoi-ish )) even as jokes. What next? Chrono having a stash of audio tapes hidden, recording Fate's moments of calling him "Onii-chan"?
Just watched this episode, and I liked it more than episode 1, if only because of Hayate's (lack of) transformation scene, or because of Vita. I love how the grunts are gobsmacked by Hayate's magic. I love Vita's new uniform, and her non-emo professional demeanor while kicking ass. I look forward to her teaching the two newbies.
I got a strange vibe from the Nanoha / Fate exchange though. I wonder if anyone else feels like they will give Nanoha some incurable illness preventing her from releasing her full potential at critical moments, and make her a sort of TSAB Okita Souji.
It would even fit the pattern set by the AMF devices: StrikerS is set to reduce the old stars' magic effectiveness, so it's scarily believable that they would add another power check specially for Nanoha.
On the other hand, Nanoha could just have angry scars like her father, or even magical scars that hurt when exposed to magical radiation. (picturing a fist of the north star kenshiro/Grendizer Daisuke-Nanoha *ugh*) :D
About Hayate's mage rank, it's obvious you can be more powerful than your official rank shows, so if Hayate passed tests that Nanoha & Fate didn't even try, she could be ranked higher without being more likely to win in a fight.
However, from what I saw of her magic, she almost always adds a status affliction to the pure damage, and if RPG taught me one thing, it's that pure damage only goes so far, when a petrify/freeze (berserk/confuse/poison/sleep/stop?) can be an instant winner. Between Mistlestein and Starlight breaker, I would choose Mistlestein, even if I like Nanoha better (I wonder why I wasn't as annoyed by Hayate's weird way of speaking in A's).
JediNight
2007-04-11, 03:40
Yuuno is the Daniel Jackson of the Nanoha Universe ;)
Nanohafied
2007-04-11, 03:58
Can some1 kindly post the thread for ep2 download...i cant wait any longer:D
So, if the new group is to be called Riot Squad 6 or something, do they ever mention why it's the number six? That implies numbers one to five or something.Hayate mentions about that in their bed-scene (duh).
Riot Force 1 to 5 are oriented in dimentionwide search of Logia, in manner similer to that of Police or something.
While that's the basic method of searching Logia or some other dangerous material, they tend to be "slow" due to asking for permission from superior and such.
This is why Hayate wants to establish her troops, Riot Force 6, consists of small number of experts for more flexibility and specializes in tasks that requires quick responce and containment of the situation in short period of time.
...well, that's what I made out from Hayate's words in that scene.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-11, 06:42
Hmm...I was under the personal impression that he is, considering his wife and 2 daughters are. Or maybe the magic runs in the XX-chromosome of the Nakajima bloodline, or whatever family name of the waifu Genya tapped. Whatever.
Regardless, I want my dose of old, experienced and sophisticated male mage.
Here's something interesting. Why is his name Japanese? It would suggest that he's from Earth... And from what we know, us Earthlings usually make great mages :)
I'm surprised how far all of you are going with the whole ero-ChroEliosuke (( god, that sounded...yaoi-ish )) even as jokes. What next? Chrono having a stash of audio tapes hidden, recording Fate's moments of calling him "Onii-chan"?
I can't help it! It has a huge potential to become comedy gold! For once, the writers decide to compensate me for all the times they F- me in the romance department!
In fact, I've decide that I'm never stop poking it whenever there's a chance! (Or until the next amusing Hetero scene comes along...)
What the hell, one for the road...
*******
Fate: Onii-!
*Crash!*
Chrono: Y-Yes?
Fate: I mean Chrono-kun, have you seen Erio?
Chrono: Not for a while, why?
Fate: I'm getting abit worry for him, this is the first time he's working with a complete stranger... Maybe I should go and tal-
Chrono: NO!
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Er, I mean... Erio's old enough to take care of himself.
Fate: I know, but this is all new to him, I'm not sure if he can handle it...
Chrono: Oh, I'm sure he can 'hand'-dle it...
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Erm, the point is, now that Erio at this age, he should start to learn how to take care of himself. Remember, you were once his age too and you had to deal with worse...
Fate: Yeah... I guess you're right... Sorry to bother you about it.
Chrono: Hey no problem... Oh by the way?
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Could you help me pick up that file on the floor? Thanks...
Fate: This? Sure...
Chrono: Heh...
mist2123
2007-04-11, 06:47
Can some1 kindly post the thread for ep2 download...i cant wait any longer:D
NO!!!!!!!!
MADE YOU LOOK
Cuz the rules says so
Julius Firefocht
2007-04-11, 08:14
Here's something interesting. Why is his name Japanese? It would suggest that he's from Earth... And from what we know, us Earthlings usually make great mages :)
I can't help it! It has a huge potential to become comedy gold! For once, the writers decide to compensate me for all the times they F- me in the romance department!
In fact, I've decide that I'm never stop poking it whenever there's a chance! (Or until the next amusing Hetero scene comes along...)
What the hell, one for the road...
*******
Fate: Onii-!
*Crash!*
Chrono: Y-Yes?
Fate: I mean Chrono-kun, have you seen Erio?
Chrono: Not for a while, why?
Fate: I'm getting abit worry for him, this is the first time he's working with a complete stranger... Maybe I should go and tal-
Chrono: NO!
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Er, I mean... Erio's old enough to take care of himself.
Fate: I know, but this is all new to him, I'm not sure if he can handle it...
Chrono: Oh, I'm sure he can 'hand'-dle it...
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Erm, the point is, now that Erio at this age, he should start to learn how to take care of himself. Remember, you were once his age too and you had to deal with worse...
Fate: Yeah... I guess you're right... Sorry to bother you about it.
Chrono: Hey no problem... Oh by the way?
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Could you help me pick up that file on the floor? Thanks...
Fate: This? Sure...
Chrono: Heh...
The funny thing is, I can actually see Chrono doing that. The man is voiced by Tomokazu Sugita. That alone opens up A LOT of possibilities.
LoweGear
2007-04-11, 08:23
I can't help it! It has a huge potential to become comedy gold! For once, the writers decide to compensate me for all the times they F- me in the romance department!
In fact, I've decide that I'm never stop poking it whenever there's a chance! (Or until the next amusing Hetero scene comes along...)
What the hell, one for the road...
*******
Fate: Onii-!
*Crash!*
Chrono: Y-Yes?
Fate: I mean Chrono-kun, have you seen Erio?
Chrono: Not for a while, why?
Fate: I'm getting abit worry for him, this is the first time he's working with a complete stranger... Maybe I should go and tal-
Chrono: NO!
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Er, I mean... Erio's old enough to take care of himself.
Fate: I know, but this is all new to him, I'm not sure if he can handle it...
Chrono: Oh, I'm sure he can 'hand'-dle it...
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Erm, the point is, now that Erio at this age, he should start to learn how to take care of himself. Remember, you were once his age too and you had to deal with worse...
Fate: Yeah... I guess you're right... Sorry to bother you about it.
Chrono: Hey no problem... Oh by the way?
Fate: Huh?
Chrono: Could you help me pick up that file on the floor? Thanks...
Fate: This? Sure...
Chrono: Heh...
All of your scenario's with Skane's got be thinking on an unusual crossover:
*Later, Fate visits Chrono's empty room to deliver a report.*
*Sees an unusual magazine in his bunk with a blonde haired bishounen with sexy scantily clad lusty women in the background entitled "The Playboy's Guide to Combat Techniques, Tactics and Strategy by Kurz Weber"*
*Activates Bardiche*
Fate: Chrono-niichan....
Anyway, having seen the episode, and with almost every point nitpicked, I'll just cover a few points:
- Love how Subaru and Teana have more comedic moments with each passing episode (butt-pinching = win).
- More on Midchilda architecture and technology, with some cool vehicles including the helicopter, Hayate's FCC (Forward Command Center), and the Fate-mobile :D
- What was that shield that was covering those three girls that Fate talked to in the airport, right before she covered them with Defensor Plus (on another note, Bardiche's voice is mind-blowingly awesome as always :D )
- "Sonic Move" = Best voices from Bardiche and Strada
- Elio is much more pimp than I imagined, and Carol lives up to her cuteness ^^
- "Schwalbe Fliegen" *cries manly tears of hotblood* And the Wolkenritter show that they still have style even after 10 years, even Signum, who didn't even kick ass this episode.
All in all, can't wait for the next ep :D
Well, that might be true, but I'm inclined to believe that it's an upgraded version of her Sonic Form...
... One where she doesn't have to shed any clothings to gain speed.
And how is that an upgrade ? *cough* :heh:
Erio: Chrono Ni-san, for the last time it's an accident!
Chrono: Uh-huh, sure... Listen this is just between us guys, but you should've picked somewhere more discreet... But I guess it's a good start for a kid... Playing the hero always seem to get the girls...
Erio: I didn't plan on it, and I'm not a kid!!!
Chrono: Yes you are.
Erio: No I'm not!
Chrono: Is that so...?
Erio: Yes!
Chrono: Then prove it to me.
Erio: Fine! How?
Chrono: Go buy me a porno magazine.
Erio: Deal! Wait, what's that?
Chrono: You don’t know? It’s a magazine aimed at adults, and it’s really exciting to read. It really turns you on.
Erio: Hmm...
Chrono: Go up to the store manager and ask, "Can I have a pornographic magazine?" If there's more than one, get anything the store manager recommends.
Erio: Okay! I can read it too, right?
Chrono: Sure, only if you're old enough...
Erio: I'm old enough!
(Runs off...)
Chrono: Now then... Time to get back to work...
Ripped off from Kanon Yuuichi/Makoto conversation :heh:
~ - What was that shield that was covering those three girls that Fate talked to in the airport, right before she covered them with Defensor Plus (on another note, Bardiche's voice is mind-blowingly awesome as always :D ) ~
If my primitive understanding of Japanese is correct, the civilians were telling Fate that a girl mage shielded them before going off somewhere. That girl mage is Ginga, who was searching for her sister, Subaru. Someone correct me if I am wrong here.
Cheers.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-11, 08:44
All of your scenario's with Skane's got be thinking on an unusual crossover:
Not really a crossover, more of a 'what if' behind the scenes thingy :)
And how is that an upgrade ? *cough* :heh:
Only a few people get special 'passes' :D
Ripped off from Kanon Yuuichi/Makoto conversation :heh:
Yup! Thats the whole point :)
EDIT:
The funny thing is, I can actually see Chrono doing that. The man is voiced by Tomokazu Sugita. That alone opens up A LOT of possibilities.
And they damn well better keep that potential!
@LoweGear
It's probably just a simple barrier protection... Nothing fancy...
Meophist
2007-04-11, 08:45
- What was that shield that was covering those three girls that Fate talked to in the airport, right before she covered them with Defensor Plus (on another note, Bardiche's voice is mind-blowingly awesome as always :D )That was Subaru's onee-chan's spell. Probably some sort of field spell to dispell the heat or something.
Edit: Late…
All of your scenario's with Skane's got be thinking on an unusual crossover:
*Later, Fate visits Chrono's empty room to deliver a report.*
*Sees an unusual magazine in his bunk with a blonde haired bishounen with sexy scantily clad lusty women in the background entitled "The Playboy's Guide to Combat Techniques, Tactics and Strategy by Kurz Weber"*
*Activates Bardiche*
Fate: Chrono-niichan....
Oh, that has SO many possibilities in it...
Kaname: Sousuke, you warmongering IDIOT!! *breaks out the Harisen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harisen)*
Vita: Does that work?
Kaname: NO! He doesn't learn a thing no matter what I do!
Vita: Try this.
Graf Eisen: GIGA FORM.
Sousuke: !! *standing at full attention, but sweating heavily*
Celio: Commander? The representative from Mithril is here.
Hayate: Thank you, Celio. Please show her in. *looks back to the papers on her desk*
*Fate and Nanoha are standing next to her doing the same*
Tessa: Please excuse the interruption.
Hayate: *still looking* I keep telling you, Riin, you don't have to be so formal.
Rein: I didn't say that.
*The Three Aces look at her, blink, then look behind them*
Tessa: Ummm... hello?
Rein: Ah! Welcome to Riot 6!
Tessa: ... *stares wide eyed at the 6-inch tall Rein hovering in front of her*
*The Three Aces stare at the silver-haired Tessa, then at the silver-haired Rein, then back at Tessa*
Estavali
2007-04-11, 09:47
@LoweGear
It's probably just a simple barrier protection... Nothing fancy...
IMHO that act alone shows two things:
1) Genya and his wife brought their children up well. Even in a crisis, Ginga didn't forget to protect her fellow civilians even though she was probably just as frightened as they are, and that she still needed to find her cry-baby sister urgently.
2) Though Nanoha and friends have been doing barriers since the age of 9, we should remember that they are superhumans who are not bonded by normal laws :D . I don't know what's the standard there in Midchilda, but to me establishing a stand-alone barrier is pretty neat stuff for a normal 12-yo child (even if she is a mage).
@Skane: I'm very sure that Strada's point spins. Give some time and I'll find the exact timing where it shows that!
Till then, cheerios!
LoweGear
2007-04-11, 09:57
IMHO that act alone shows two things:
1) Genya and his wife brought their children up well. Even in a crisis, Ginga didn't forget to protect her fellow civilians even though she was probably just as frightened as they are, and that she still needed to find her cry-baby sister urgently.
2) Though Nanoha and friends have been doing barriers since the age of 9, we should remember that they are superhumans who are not bonded by normal laws :D . I don't know what's the standard there in Midchilda, but to me establishing a stand-alone barrier is pretty neat stuff for a normal 12-yo child (even if she is a mage).
@Skane: I'm very sure that Strada's point spins. Give some time and I'll find the exact timing where it shows that!
Till then, cheerios!
Good points on Ginga there, no wonder she got through the ranks VERY quickly...
And I also noticed that spinning (when he is falling, but just before he drives Strada into the ground), but it looked more like Elio spun the Strada incredibly fast, rather than Strada having any spinning parts. Either way, it still spun.
If you're talking about the scene where Erio smashes Strada into the road, I checked that scene frame by frame and Strada did not spin. :heh: You may have been confused by the wind spinning around Strada.
Prior to that scene, when Erio is descending from the sky, Strada loaded one cartridge, but still no spinning either.
Cheers.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-04-11, 10:39
Oh, that has SO many possibilities in it...
Kaname: Sousuke, you warmongering IDIOT!! *breaks out the Harisen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harisen)*
Vita: Does that work?
Kaname: NO! He doesn't learn a thing no matter what I do!
Vita: Try this.
Graf Eisen: GIGA FORM.
Sousuke: !! *standing at full attention, but sweating heavily*
Celio: Commander? The representative from Mithril is here.
Hayate: Thank you, Celio. Please show her in. *looks back to the papers on her desk*
*Fate and Nanoha are standing next to her doing the same*
Tessa: Please excuse the interruption.
Hayate: *still looking* I keep telling you, Riin, you don't have to be so formal.
Rein: I didn't say that.
*The Three Aces look at her, blink, then look behind them*
Tessa: Ummm... hello?
Rein: Ah! Welcome to Riot 6!
Tessa: ... *stares wide eyed at the 6-inch tall Rein hovering in front of her*
*The Three Aces stare at the silver-haired Tessa, then at the silver-haired Rein, then back at Tessa*
Off-Topic: This makes me wish that I had watched Full Metal Panic :(
On-Topic (Well, sort of): I've been wanting to pull this off for a long time :), if it's about VA(s) parody ... :D :D :D
Behold! The ultimate combo deal!
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(At the bar...)
Kyon: I don't know about you, but whichever powers-that-be who's Assigning god powers to humans should probably be fired! Who is the right mind would give "the one person who should be kept furthest away from the nuclear launch button" the ability to-
Yuuichi: Don't talk about god-like powers to me... Sometimes I have no idea what that girl is thinking... I mean, sure you have power to create miracles and all that, but you can't use it so recklessly everytime a perverted student president hits on your best friend-
Chrono: Please both of you, at least you have to deal with only ONE girl problem. I have to keep my anti-doomsday device from THREE reckless women... Who they themselves ARE practically the doomsday weapons-
Kyon: Oh? Can they create new Dimensions and kidnap you into them whenever they feel like it?
Yuuichi: Or call out demons which force you to give up many nights trying to subdue them?
Chrono: No, but they sure can give me tons of paper work and interdimensional Apology letters to write.
(Door opens...)
Mai: Yuuichi, Nayuki-san says it's time for dinner... Also, for tonight I can feel some of them in the gymnasium...
Nanoha: Chrono-kun! There you are! We've been so worried!
Acous: You're needed back at headquarters :) Lets just say Rein has another one of her 'OOPS!' moments...
Itsuki: So there you are... Suzumiya-san has been looking all over for you :) Something about visiting a military-
Kyon/Yuuichi/Chrono: Sigh...
LoweGear
2007-04-11, 12:10
Celio: Commander? The representative from Mithril is here.
Hayate: Thank you, Celio. Please show her in. *looks back to the papers on her desk*
*Fate and Nanoha are standing next to her doing the same*
Tessa: Please excuse the interruption.
Hayate: *still looking* I keep telling you, Riin, you don't have to be so formal.
Rein: I didn't say that.
*The Three Aces look at her, blink, then look behind them*
Tessa: Ummm... hello?
Rein: Ah! Welcome to Riot 6!
Tessa: ... *stares wide eyed at the 6-inch tall Rein hovering in front of her*
*The Three Aces stare at the silver-haired Tessa, then at the silver-haired Rein, then back at Tessa*
You do a Tessa joke, and forget the ultimate connection?
*Office door slams open*
Signum: "TESTAROSSA!!"
Tessa: "Yes?"
Fate: "Signum?"
Hayate: :rolleyes:
And I would wonder about the validity of Chaos2Frozen's scenario... I mean, wouldn't the dimensions have collapsed unto itself from all that Sugita awesomeness? :heh:
Mind if I add another Sugita to the mix?
Brooklyn "Bullet" Luckfield: Wow, I didn't know you three had such problems.
Kyon: Talk about it.
Yuuichi: You don't seem to have any problems with your girl Bullet. She's even kind enough to serve us drinks tonight.
Bullet: Wha...
Chrono: Yes, it looks quite interesting.
Kyon: Here's a toast to our headaches.
*Bullet watches in horror as all three put the drink glowing drink to their lips*
Bullet: DON'T DRINK THAT!!!
You do a Tessa joke, and forget the ultimate connection?
*Office door slams open*
Signum: "TESTAROSSA!!"
Tessa: "Yes?"
Fate: "Signum?"
Hayate: :rolleyes:
DOH! :upset:
Mind if I add another Sugita to the mix?
Brooklyn "Bullet" Luckfield: Wow, I didn't know you three had such problems.
Kyon: Talk about it.
Yuuichi: You don't seem to have any problems with your girl Bullet. She's even kind enough to serve us drinks tonight.
Bullet: Wha...
Chrono: Yes, it looks quite interesting.
Kyon: Here's a toast to our headaches.
*Bullet watches in horror as all three put the drink glowing drink to their lips*
Bullet: DON'T DRINK THAT!!!
*meanwhile*
Shamal: It's true... the others are always critisizing my cooking.
Kusuha: Don't worry, Shamal. I'm not the best, but I can give you a few pointers...
Vita: Brrrr...!
Zafira: Vita, what's wrong?
Vita: I don't know. Just had a bad feeling, all of a sudden...
As a girl, I can't help but feel a bit creeped out by some of the previous 'What If's. But I admit, they would be really funny...:heh:
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