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Ahoy there! Great day, isn't it, for some ass-kicking action and for one quirky onechan? This episode is just not good. Yeah.. sigh.. It's GREAT! :D Awesome 20 minutes of pure entertainment with some of the best animated movements this show has seen thus far. So, what else is new? Well....
- New OP and ED theme
- Enter Mizuho onesama who has taken a shine to Ikkaku. :bow: Bleach has some of the most likable female I've witnessed in my formidable list of anime watching.
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A woman after my heart! :cool: So, Bald is teh s3x afterall!!
To continue with other unimportant business:
-Matsumoto is cool. Her captain and Renji is not. Nontheless, Renji was there to provide verbal emotional support to Ichigo that only seemed to apply salt to the open wound. One such example, "you are alive stupid, so you've won." :heh: I may have twisted the meaning a tiny bit, but it can indeed be translated this way if one puts enough effort. :D
- Ichigo gets the beating of his lifetime, the courtesy of Grimjaw. Man, that was sweet, but too bad the hero most likely to be upgraded in matter of days to match the badassery of the likes of Grimjaw. I also suppose I should just savor the moment even if it is ephemeral to a sense. Oh, how satisfactory was it when those punches looped for a minute were landing on Ichigo's face. :heh: The short-cut animation didn't bother me a bit considering it was Ichigo who was in the receiving end.
- Tousen makes his appearance, and he is looking fabulous!
- Preview shows the two likable Vizard who were convenienty forgotten in the chaos of things will make their return in the next episode.
The highlight of the episode for me was Mizuho-onesama! I'm so envious of Ikkaku at the moment. :heh:
I give this episode a 9.3, as in, excellent.
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Whoah... that was EPIC... new OP and even ED looks high quality, but most important is that ep surprised me being, imho maybe the most detailed so far :D I was very very pleased and excited...Did they robbed the bank or what ;) Fights felt having raw power and movement...music and jokes...everything felt like having 100% more...Super...
Edit: My only small grip was that those two shots of Hichigo looked recycled and not fitting this more strongly colored and outlined style. Which I hope we can enjoy time to time more. We shall see... at least most important fights gets more attention...:)
Whoah... that was EPIC... new OP and even ED looks high quality, but most important is that ep surprised me being, imho maybe the most detailed so far :D I was very very pleased and excited...Did they robbed the bank or what ;)
Yeah, some of the movement, especially the after affect of those movements were sweetly animated. Very fluid and shiny at the same time, that is, if one can overlook the silly float-walking everyone seems to have mastered out of no where. The fans may also be pleased with the visual of the ED theme. :cool:
Awesome, just freakin awesome! Grim is pure baddass! I didn't really like the new OP and ED, they just didn't seem to fit? Actually I lied about the OP and ED, just really watched them and they were good....my heart aches or Inoue though <333333333 Inoue X Ichi and no other!
The 3 fights that the episode started with sure ended fast, but I guess they had to get to the main event sooner or later.
Man, Grim just tore up Ichi beyond hell. Ichi is being tossed all over town and doesn't seem to run into the others or others poping up to help him somewhat? I wish they did then Grim could have beat them down too, he could of taken all 7 of them at once, didn't need all those followers!
Ichi's eye going slowly going black and the convo with Hichigo was a nice touch. Grim made Ichi's ban kai seem like jogging pace, so far from everyone we saw no one was a match for Ichi's ban kai speed (amongst the good and bad guys so far). This was like DBZ style action fighting with the super speed and air juggling! Just awesome!
From the prview of the next episode, the big fight between Ichi and .... Looks like Ichi is about to finally going to get help from Shinji. Can't wait! More hollows, more powers up, more fights needed!
Elegant Destruction
2007-04-11, 14:44
i openly admit, as a rukiaichigo supporter, i am cringing at the new opening....
mainly because i can here all the orihime fans screaming nonsence in my ears ^_< lol
but wonderful animation for both opening and ending, some of it even made me giggle.
Master zoid pilot
2007-04-11, 14:48
I loved this episode, I'm sure we won't have any complaints on the aimation department :).
I loved Renji's Bankai move........talk about being obliterated!
Did any one else love the blood in the Ichigo Grimmjow fight?
Those punches Grimm was delivering were amazing especially with the blood droplets everywhere, my exact words" damn Ichigo got his assed kicked like no one before!"
Asano's sister=scary, I liked her though. Did you notice Asano grow some balls and grab his sister by the collar(though it was only for like 2 seconds).
They made Ikkaku look like a bald woman!
So did Hitsugaya's Bankai explode when the petal melted away?
Who expected Tousen to save the day lol(wonder if grimm might be in trouble)
They had all the captains vice captains in regular clothes for the ending so does that mean they are coming to the real world?
Ichigo training with Shinji yay! I never thought the Vizards seemed to evil.
The new Op and Ed are
" ALONES " by Aqua Timez (http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Info/AquaTimez/) " Tsumasaki " ( tiptoe ) by Oreskaband (http://www.sonymusic.co.jp/Music/Info/Oreskaband/top.html)
ccardoso
2007-04-11, 15:52
I read the manga so I know the plot but... Ichigo's ownage was even more owning that I expected. :heh:
He needs a serious upgrade otherwise he's useless.
Katsumara
2007-04-11, 16:27
Oh god, I'm gonna fangasm. T_T I can't wait to see this. The Grimmjow/Ichigo fight is gonna be so epic.
One thing though.. are the opening and ending catchy? I hope so. How would you rank the opening with Rolling Star?
Bronwen Stx
2007-04-11, 16:30
O___O HOLY CRAP.
OP can I say a bit much? I really love the eerie feel to it though. The ED was just weird and convoluted. But I enjoy watching Ichi's ass. It's like watching a horrible tragic train wreck.
And this just makes me feel more bad for Orihime...ahem...enough said about that topic.
Anyways, :heh: never expected Ichi to get more pwned animated than in the manga. But that was fun. XD Will watch it again and see if I have anything new to add.
But absolute fun seeing a girl pwned something. Haven't seen that in a while. :p
I love the ending song but, the drawings seems so cheap looking. Like a amateur(sp?) did it. I thought ending sequences were drawn really well since the sequences are used for a while.
Katsumara
2007-04-11, 17:13
Just full of epic win. Episode was outstanding. I LOVED the new opening, the scenes.. the song fit it well too. Loved the rundown of the captains/Ichi and crew in one scene, then Aizen and gang in the next. The ending was full of so much fanservice, I loved it. Best animated/thought out episode in a while. Two thumbs up for sure!
Loved this episode. Never thought I'd have this much fun seeing the living daylights punched out of Ichigo. :) There were some bits that were exceptionally animated, among my favourites this one:
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Click to see Grimjow dance like a butterfly and sting like a bee. :D
Loved the new opening, but whoa it's on the spoilery side. The ending seemed bit cheapish. Overall, I was well entertained once again, but have to wonder whether a new filler arc is waiting for us, since they're getting dagerously close to the manga again.
Crebstar
2007-04-11, 17:53
Amazing.... Amazing.... Amazing... Is all I can say with how they animated and portrayed this episode. They are doing a freakin nice job lately. This arc to me is begining to be just as good if not better than SS arc.
Thewanderer
2007-04-11, 18:30
Hiyori's back in 122? Fair enough. I can wait.
And Renji won again, eh? Who wants to bet it's another staged fight?:heh: (hey, it's possible...)
Yeah 2nd Renji's win in anime , if we were following just the manga it would be his official first win So yeah we cant make Renji Won Jokes no more - sob sob sob -
Well those of you who dont know somone started this joke in the What a Bleach Chracter would never say Thread ( Renji : I won )
Shortysdohdoh
2007-04-11, 18:46
i caught bleach on tv in my apartment last night. finally i know what time it shows and what channel :)
lately i've been waiting for the youtube version because i couldn't find the channel but... the animation quality of 120 really pissed me off.
then i watched bleach last night and i was shocked! the animation was like 120% better. very detailed, smooth, nice colors. it reminded me of quality animation they usually do for movies.
Loved this episode. Never thought I'd have this much fun seeing the living daylights punched out of Ichigo. :) There were some bits that were exceptionally animated, among my favourites this one:
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Click to see Grimjow dance like a butterfly and sting like a bee. :D
Loved the new opening, but whoa it's on the spoilery side. The ending seemed bit cheapish. Overall, I was well entertained once again, but have to wonder whether a new filler arc is waiting for us, since they're getting dagerously close to the manga again.
LOL, you found him dancing around amusing too? I was like...AWESOME, I busted up when I first saw it! Grim is just absolutely badass. Reminded me a little bit like Bruce Lee when he was doing that! Those were some pure power and fighting skills there, no question about it!
awesome awesome episode!!!
loved the music, from the OP to the pretty much full versions of music tracks to the ED!! And they brought back "Will of the Heart" finally!! ^_^
the OP rocks my socks so much!! Best one yet- i love how it syncs with the music from Kon lip-synching to the bit where they show SS then Aizen and his crew. Personally love the action bits then Ishida holding back the arrow until its cue with the music :D
And its so sad too :(
ED animation was alright, but I love the song so much :)
And yeah kicking episode- love the Bruce Lee touch on Grimmjaw, and i loved the VA especially for Matsumoto and Grimmjaw. (Ichigo spinning was funny lol) Love the music when Ichigo is getting beaten up repeatedly then flashbacks with the contrast of the previous Arrancar appear.
The wait was worth it :)
All I can say about the episode is wow. It was the best one in a long time, well worth having to wait an extra week for.
Also, I just uploaded the new Op and Ed onto YouTube if anyone want to watch them.
Opening 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htguzL-YBVs)
Ending 11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUi5adS9C7I)
<3 Ska.. I'm in love with the new Bleach ED =)
LightningZERO
2007-04-11, 22:36
No Vizards in the OP? awww....
Thewanderer
2007-04-11, 22:45
No Vizards in the OP? awww....That's a shame. They put the modsoul trio in the 4th OP. The least they could do is put the new heros(hero sidekicks?:p) in this arc in this one...:mad:
Anime Adoru
2007-04-11, 22:55
All I can say about the episode is wow. It was the best one in a long time, well worth having to wait an extra week for.
Also, I just uploaded the new Op and Ed onto YouTube if anyone want to watch them.
Opening 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htguzL-YBVs)
Ending 11 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUi5adS9C7I)
Uah, this looks really great. Can't wait for my download to finish... Faster please.
Ugh, I am getting sick and tired of these hit and runs and they just leave when its about to get good. Twice now we've seen Ichigo get his ass handed to him, and they just leave out of nowhere. Really irritating. Especially if this is going to be the trend in the future.
The only thing that I found worth the episode was how Ichigo explained that using the Black tenshou speeds up the hollow taking over. That and the animation.
From the new OP though it seems to focus Orihime quite a bit. Very interesting.
Mr Hat and Clogs
2007-04-11, 23:07
That was a good episode.
at 0:58 in the OP is that Inoue in fancy clothes that look like Arancarr/Quincy garments? Cool wardrobe change if so.
Asano's sister rawks.
Icchi being flogged was pretty nicely done.
Poor Kon cant get a break, rofl @ Hanataro's Zanpakuto
OP ED were pretty nice. I like how they show all the SS characters in regular clothing, I would like to see a lot of them actually come to the Real World at one stage, for some reason I think it would be amusing to see Rukia's brother try and pass himself off as a student or Shunsui's reaction to school uniforms.
no common sense
2007-04-12, 00:37
The animation was top notch. I especially liked the animation for Ichigo and Grimmjaw's conversation towards the end. Mizuho reminded me of Vicky from Fairly Odd Parents, very funny.
Two words: red. blood. How nice is that?
I wish the interstitial animation (the crazy lines on white) gets changed, though. They need Bleach fashion plates, Red Garden-style.
Thewanderer
2007-04-12, 00:50
Two words: red. blood. How nice is that?It was 3D too:twitch:(or looked like it, at least)
some spoilers in OP
good episode tho.
astrallionheart
2007-04-12, 01:13
LOL, you found him dancing around amusing too? I was like...AWESOME, I busted up when I first saw it! Grim is just absolutely badass. Reminded me a little bit like Bruce Lee when he was doing that! Those were some pure power and fighting skills there, no question about it!
Lol...they did the same thing in 118 when Ikkaku got punched across a skyscraper, Edorad Leones did a little chicken dance. I consider it a "present", as "we splurged in this one scene to show we *can* animate, we just need more money to do a lot more of it" :D
Some of the DBZ-esque explosions made me chuckle.
cheese no koma
2007-04-12, 01:22
is it just me or does hichigo sound like kon?
It was 3D too:twitch:(or looked like it, at least)
Nah.. it is 2D in 1D rendition. You can tell by the edges on the circle. Rewatched the whole episode just to confirm it. Talk about excuses. :heh:
And how cool is Mizuho onesama? So was Matsumoto in the episode!
Nara Animation studio can definitely animate if they choose to as evident from the Naruto series.
Thewanderer
2007-04-12, 01:25
some spoilers in OPIMO, they're not noticable. Unless someone points out that there are spoilers in the OP <.<
is it just me or does hichigo sound like kon?That just made the list of disturbing theories I never wish to hear again...
...:p
Nah.. it is 2D in 1D rendition. You can tell by the edges on the circle. Rewatched the whole episode just to confirm it. Talk about excuses. :heh:
And how cool is Mizuho onesama? So was Matsumoto in the episode!
Nara Animation studio can definitely animate if they choose to as evident from the Naruto series.For me, the whole coolness of the episode was outshined by the small appearence of Hiyori-chan in the 122 preview.
Mizuho is hawt the best scene in the whole episode was the Bishi appearance of Ikkaku through the eyes of Mizuho .
I guess like many others, I really enjoyed the step-up in animation. Wow! :) I will have to disagree with others though, Ichirin No hana will remain my favorite opening theme. Though, I might be biased because I like High and Mighty Color outside of the Anime. :)
For me, the whole coolness of the episode was outshined by the small appearence of Hiyori-chan in the 122 preview.
She cracks me up! It was kind of disconcerting when the Vizards were conveniently forgotten in these last few episodes.
Mizuho is hawt the best scene in the whole episode was the Bishi appearance of Ikkaku through the eyes of Mizuho
Ikkaku is one lucky bloke. *envious* :cool:
She cracks me up! It was kind of disconcerting when the Vizards were conveniently forgotten in these last few episodes.
Ishida has been forgotten as well. :)
Asianknight82
2007-04-12, 01:47
Great episode, LOVED the op, this really would rally all the ichigoxorihime fans for sure XD
Ikkaku is one lucky bloke. *envious* :cool:
Ikkaku is manly plus he can dance ( luck luck dance ) What more does a women need in a man :heh:
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Lol, i really like the music playng in that whole Mizuho/Keigo/Ikkaku scene :D
That theme rocks
Episode was great. really epic
When Hitsugaya beat Qufang, how did he get all cut up like that? I didn't see a counterattack from Qufang at all.
i think was holding his wounds temporarly, it opened up when the fight was over. He did take a large beating b4 lifting the limit.
This ep was good, loved the Mizuho scene lol total crack up
Ichigo being slapped around like that makes him look so weak.
That OP is really interesting lol
ichigoismyhomie
2007-04-12, 02:37
This is a surprise for me. It is worth the wait for 2 weeks. OP was great, although there's so many spoilers for the future to come. ED was excellent. I loved it when the captains/VCs are dressed up in normal clothing. The 69 dude (one of the VC with tattoo on the face) look pretty good in that ending. also 2 of my favorite officers, soi fong and nanao-chan......they look so goood kyaaaaaaaaaaa. esp, nanao-chan. She look so sexy (kinda girl-next-door look going on). Soi fong was plain kinky with that maid dress. I like how the animator drawn her face with kinda shy look....i guess anyone that would fallen for youruichi has to be a freak.........
Other thing that crack me up is Isshin and the daugthers. They made isshin look like a pedophile...even though he always act like one. Hinamori and hitsuyaga look really cute in human clothes. they should really be a couple in this series.
Animation wise, this episode meets and exceeds my expectation. Such an awesome movements. Another episode that they not only stick with manga's plot, but added scenes works really well to enhanced the mood and feeling of this episode. This is the first time in a long time i scream and yell and cheer while watching bleach. It's just fantastic.
SC-golden was hillarious too. Hanatarou got some weird zanpakotou. Perfect blend of laugh, comedy, action, fighting, and a one fat, juicy story line. I would give it a perfect 11, but the songs from OP/ED don't really fit me well. OP song was ok, but ED song was just too generic for anime. I guess it should fit the easy-going theme for the ED, but I still like the old ED song better.
That's my take on this episode. I can't wait what kind of suprises will they bring up on next episode.........
stonedzombie
2007-04-12, 02:50
New OP is awesome, new ED is lame. Great ep though, its been a while since I've seen an ep this awesome. Also, the animation was a lot better this time around. Keep it up!
Where the hell is Chad, though?
Master zoid pilot
2007-04-12, 03:34
Where the hell is Chad, though?
He ran away, He use to be a monster I enjoyed him then :mad:
KNETTER2000
2007-04-12, 03:51
New OP is awesome, new ED is lame. Great ep though, its been a while since I've seen an ep this awesome. Also, the animation was a lot better this time around. Keep it up!
Where the hell is Chad, though?
Chad is probably still running. somewhere.. to anyplace..
Though it seems he is going to play a roll in all this judging from the OP.. his armored arm looks different.. I wonder what lies ahead :D
powerup? he desperately needs one..
I liked the episode heaps! red shiny animated blood! Grimm who does a little( well animated!) Bruce Lee dance.. I felt sorry for Ichigo when he was being gatlinghit in the face and experiencing all these flashbacks of his friends being taken out without him being able to do anything about it.. I almost felt how he must feel. very well done :D
The scene with Ikkaku and Keigo.. looking like a trainwreck to everyone else but Mizuho :heh:
yupyup, I hope they keep this up :D
Episode was great. really epic
When Hitsugaya beat Qufang, how did he get all cut up like that? I didn't see a counterattack from Qufang at all.
Actually the last petal of his Bankai broke, leaving him with no more petals thus his Bankai ends. Yeah I knew people would give that reaction cause they didnt show that part...::uhoh:
This ep was nothing less then excellent. New op had tons of spoilers that i noticed even though i dont read the manga.
This whole ep set up a build up for a ichigo/grimmjow rematch.
Looks like Ikkaku is going to recive some "special" nursing.
And from the looks of the new OP Orihime seems to be in a bad position, Chad gets an upgrade, and Ishida gets one as well.
Jerseykid
2007-04-12, 04:31
Judging by the OP, Orihime is going from a 2 in terms of plot involvement to a 9.
Maes Hughes
2007-04-12, 04:55
Quite possibly the best episode of Bleach yet, well worth the 2 week wait. The beating Ichigo took from Grim made this episode an automatic 10/10 for me.
I don't get why Kisuke and Yoruichi didn't come out to help Renji during his fight. Didn't they care about what was happening right outside their house?
The only other question in my mind is about Black Gestuga(sp?) - Isn't that just a black version of Ichigo's shikai? Why would it hurt him to use his Shikai?
Im amazed, awsome episode now im just getting more and more need to see the Vaizards in the next episode :)
stonedzombie
2007-04-12, 05:10
eh, I find the Vaizards pretty lame so far. Hopefully they break out with some cool tricks. Their Japanese dialect is sooooo weird to me.
Meatrose
2007-04-12, 05:28
Hmm... the episode was pretty good actually. Really enjoyed the animations since they were "better" than usual. It seems to me that this episode features higher fps than Bleach usually does... am I the only one who thought so?
Ichimaru
2007-04-12, 05:51
AT least we get to see tatsuki :D:D
Damn this ep was full of awesome and win lol.
The animation was very well done. Ichigo gave it his all. Bankai and he even used some hollow moves. Since Grimmjow did not even have to bother with his sword, it shows that there is quite a bit of powering up to do for the ichi crew.
This episode had a lot of cool stuff, much better than the last!
Funny how some characters like Kisuke and Ikkaku say like one line in the episode...I can only think that they record voices for more than one episode at once :P
UnderscoreX
2007-04-12, 07:47
Yayyyyyyy at finally being able to see animated Vaizard Ichigo in the Opening, that alone made my day.
Also the actual episode wasn't so bad.
The only other question in my mind is about Black Gestuga(sp?) - Isn't that just a black version of Ichigo's shikai? Why would it hurt him to use his Shikai?
His Getsuga Tenshou is blue. The black one is used by Hollow ichigo. So when Ichigo used the black getsuga tenshou, it seems Hichigo comes faster :)
Great episode.. OP is full of spoilers that even I can see when I don't read manga
ED is pretty cool, good song, and I love soi fong in maid :D
ichi defo needs some power up, grim really kicked his ass.. and so easily
Loved this episode. Never thought I'd have this much fun seeing the living daylights punched out of Ichigo. :) There were some bits that were exceptionally animated, among my favourites this one:
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/531/sugarraygrimjowdc9.th.gif (http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sugarraygrimjowdc9.gif)
Click to see Grimjow dance like a butterfly and sting like a bee. :D
Loved the new opening, but whoa it's on the spoilery side. The ending seemed bit cheapish. Overall, I was well entertained once again, but have to wonder whether a new filler arc is waiting for us, since they're getting dagerously close to the manga again.
that gif was sweet...they really poured the cash into this episode
_faithful_
2007-04-12, 08:38
yeah the grimjow dance and pounce is so cool and i think they kinda overdone it with the beating of ichigo ^^ he survived a 100 combo punch from grimmjow :D
FlareKnight
2007-04-12, 08:48
Nice episode, though the OP screams even to non-manga readers MEGA SPOILERS!!! But oh well since it seems like Inoue is getting a boost in her relationship to the story. Plus we'll get Ishida and Chad back into the story which honestly can't hurt. Hope Ichigo learns from this, sending Chad away because he couldn't help but in the end being completely useless against Grimmjaw.
Looks like getting 80% of your power back really does help, yes shocking I know. Would have liked to see those fights go a bit longer, but I guess you have to take injuries into account. They aren't being healed just getting their full power ready to go. Major difference especially with Hitsugaya's ice finally getting hold without being shrugged off. Pretty funny watching Shawlong running for it after finding all this out.
Good day for Rengi and Hitsugaya. Get some wins to add to their records on the show. Too bad they couldn't release the limit earlier since Hitsugaya took some major hits while waiting for it. Always good that Inoue is there for support or else there could have been some major injuries. Everyone got their wins which was the important thing. I did assume that Hitsugaya used his bankai's remaining form to freeze the guy but if it was running out of time that's alright. Still surprised that something like a clear time limit would be visible on his bankai.
Did all the traitor captains decide, "hey we need some cool new looks now that we're officially evil." Ichigo really had a tough fight on his hands this time. If Tousen hadn't shown up to force a retreat it could've been bad. Since no one else was in any condition to offer real help there. It's too bad Urahara couldn't help them out but he is a exile for all intensive purposes. And isn't Yorichi a traitor for leaving? Even if in that situaiton help would have been nice they really couldn't do anything else but help Ururu. That poor kid, she gave it her all and nearly died. That's definitely not going to make those guys happy.
Interesting what the show is planning with Tatsuki. She has seen quite a few things going on and now this fight with Ichigo. She hasn't brought it up to anyone so there isn't any suspicion. But just wonder what kind of role she is going to play. No special abilities outside of marital arts have been attributed to her so it's a curious situation.
Keigo's sister rocks :). She just jumps all over Ikkaku when they arrive which can only lead to some funny times. Big sisters in this show are very dangerous it seems.
Liked the OP music wise, while some images make you wonder what's going on it's still very interesting. Plus Kon taking lead vocal at the start was hilarious. While the ED music wasn't all that amazing the scenes were still nice. Also liked the Hinamori and Hitsugaya moment there. Though with Kira and Matsumoto in the background it looks like some sort of I don't know parental supervision ;).
Preview was fun as well. Looks like Grimmjaw is in some trouble. Considering he just got a bunch of arrancar killed in a stupid attack probably didn't help anything in that regard. Ishida makes his first real appearance in a while. (I know people are busy with their issues but how do they not notice him gone?) Though seems like his father is being tough on him here. Also Ichigo looks to be getting some real training. Though after the issues with his hollow side he probably will do anything to get control over it.
Damn right Aizen sends Tousen to bring back Grimm. If he'd have sent Gin I'm betting there would be blood on the moon right now. :heh:
The anticipation of seeing Gin is almost unbearable on my part. I think I may literally explode when he finally appears. I actually fear for my health...
Great ep!
im amazed that ichigo was able to take such a beating to the face while STANDING lol youd think he'd have fallen back after a 3rd rapid hit liek that from grimm geez lol
also the animation was amazing and it looked so cool the details etc. Grim was amazing in this, animation was amazing whne he laughed after getting hit by the getsuga tenshou, the mask moved wiht him and everything. finally amazing stuff yay
I'm not gonna to follow suit like you all praising the episode.. but instead ...
Soi Fong .... :love: ...
Nanao :love:
:heh:
Its getting repetitive with everyone say how awesome the episode is :D
And it look like I'm gonna go fanboy crazy mode with a new character next week :naughty:
_faithful_
2007-04-12, 09:04
who doesn't want to see gin in action again ^^ i hope he's much more stronger now even though he already was strong XD
ccardoso
2007-04-12, 09:09
Anyway this is SS arc all over again power wise: at its beginning Ichigo was the crappiest shinigami around, then he went through some power-ups. Now Ichigo is the crappiest hybrid around, so let's go through trainings and such.
wingdarkness
2007-04-12, 09:14
Anyway this is SS arc all over again power wise: at its beginning Ichigo was the crappiest shinigami around, then he went through some power-ups. Now Ichigo is the crappiest hybrid around, so let's go through trainings and such.
You just described the basic scenerio of every shonen-fighter anime ever....
ccardoso
2007-04-12, 09:29
You just described the basic scenerio of every shonen-fighter anime ever....
if you want to say that I said an obvious thing then you can save bandwidth... I know it's the same for all the shounen anime. But I wanted to write it anyway: do you have problems with that? :rolleyes:
Ballista
2007-04-12, 09:59
Anyway I just registered cuz I wanted to point something out. IN the Ending Credits...the very first still with Keigo Asano with his arm around the guys.
Anyone else notice the position of Ichigos left arm/hand?!
Looks like a bit of cupping action. And I can't help but notice a funny smile on Keigo's face. :twitch:
Hahaha:heh:
Even Chado in the left of screen noticed. And his looks says it all. wtf~
wingdarkness
2007-04-12, 10:31
if you want to say that I said an obvious thing then you can save bandwidth... I know it's the same for all the shounen anime. But I wanted to write it anyway: do you have problems with that? :rolleyes:
Hehe...Nope, can't say that I do^^...
how did f was ichi standing through all those punches :/. the KGT was amazingly pretty. as well as the overall animation. why does hichigo's mask look different than SS version?
As some before me has mentioned about orihime in OP. When she is in the picture at the OP it all of a sudden feels very dark. And she walks alone out into some desert that looks like the hollow place. Im hoping for some turning to the dark side here. :P You gotta love girls turning bad.
great animation, seems like the team that did ep 114 and 118 did this one as well, this arc certainly has some of the best animation in bleach so far
jianfish
2007-04-12, 11:52
OP seems pretty sad for Orihime. Somehow I prefer the ED more, after all the morose time it felt more light hearted and a good way to end an episode. Couldn't really catch the OP song. Perhaps ought to watch it a couple more times.
Anyway did anyone catch Matusmoto Bankai? Yes, that part where she pulled back her clothes to expose more of her bosom. It was really sneaky to make it as though she wanted to show of the mark.
Wow what an episode. I had to watch it 3 times in a row :D. Ichigo definitely got pwned, grimmjow kicks ass, great speed and uber combos (grimm ftw!!).
Its kind of a let down arrancars never actually use any katana techniques they just swing and release there other form, I hope the espadas are different.
I had my fingers crossed for Hichigo to jump in (SIGH), now ichigo is stealing his moves!(double sigh) Ichigo definitely realized how useless he is, seems there are a lot of training coming up.
The new ending sucks, the opening is kinda of ok, not as good as the one b4, or the one around the ss arc. Kon has a really big mouth in the new op.
Tousen looks extremely weird now, btw wasn't his hair purple? how come its now black? and looks really wrong.
KNETTER2000
2007-04-12, 12:02
I have a feeling that team Ichigo is going to be down one member soon, judging from the feeling I get when watching the OP..
I get an ominous feeling when Orihime and Ichigo pass eachother without looking at one another, with her walking away into somethin that resembles a desert by herself, Orihime standing there and Aizen opening up Hueco Mundo behind her..
I don't know for certain.. but that's the feeling I get..
let's see if I'm right :D
can someone build a timemachine and zap us all to next week?
Yeah those images from the OP look like mega-spoilers, but it isn't really such a bad thing!
Keeps all the non-manga readers, like me, wondering what would really happen.
I wouldn't say this was the best ep, but it was good.
I REALLY can't wait to see where all this is going though.
And why does Rukia always get seriously injured :<.
Judging from the images from the OP, it looks like she joined the dark side. You see her in a room by herself dressed in Arrancar or similar clothing, but lets not jump to conclusions here :>.
HurricaneHige
2007-04-12, 12:21
New OP is amazing, major spoiler tho @.@
This OP makes me think IchxOri will actually happen :O i spoiled myself and read the wiki manga summary but i didnt know it was to this extend...
Asianknight82
2007-04-12, 12:39
New OP is amazing, major spoiler tho @.@
This OP makes me think IchxOri will actually happen :O i spoiled myself and read the wiki manga summary but i didnt know it was to this extend...
lol, that sucks man... I feel for you, I've been waiting to see some key points in the manga animated thats coming up real soon, pretaining to Orihime.
Ishida has been forgotten as well. :)
From the preview, it seems he will be making his grand appearance in the next episode as well. I also hope his hawt dad is shown some where in the episode. Is it possible he passed his admirable sewing skill to Ishida? I get where Ishida got his attitude from, but how he got that formidable sewing skill totally eludes me.
Judging by the OP, Orihime is going from a 2 in terms of plot involvement to a 9.
Ha! If Orihime-chan sheds her useless-girl status, that only leaves Rukia. hehe~ What fun!
P.S. Like your new avy a lot KNETTER2000. :cool:
The ep itself was pretty crappy. I was expecting a good finish to all the fights but Ichigo's but instead i got a load of crap that ended turbo-fast :S Heck, even Matsumoto kicked her opponent's behind like nothing... the ōmigodbad@ss feeling about the arrancars just went down the drain.
Grimjaw pummeling Ichigo was way too long... what was the point of stretching the scene out so long?
At least the new OP is very spoilerish and hands me some things to look towards to... other than that - this ep was pure disappointment.
Ballista
2007-04-12, 13:02
The puchAichigo part is the same as those worthless recaps at the beginning of every episode. Filler excuse to not make more original animation and waste our time pissing everyone off with suspense when an episode ends right where you don't want it. I remember when they would do that with DBZ... would piss me off.
Not now though, I read the manga...so the eps are just extra. :P Nice to see the story brought to life.
Glitch87
2007-04-12, 13:20
some serious whiners about the episode... Jeez. It's not the anime teams fault that Kubo didnt put much of a fight up in the manga. The reason this episodes nearly as good as it is is because of the added stuff by the anime team.
pick your poison folks. Watch Ichi get pummeled for a good minute or two. or watch yoruichi eat for 3 minutes then have a nice conversation with the filler dolls..
I pick Ichi getting pummeled.
astrallionheart
2007-04-12, 13:34
You know, I just thought of something funny. You know Keigo and Tatsuki can innately see ghosts...
What if they are just the equivalent of Ichigo/Ishida except un-nurtured?--i.e., they have parents that were former Captains or just extremely powerful? Would make some interesting dues ex machina moments when the young heroes are troubled later.
Maybe it's just poor retconning, but they haven't appeared to have trouble with reaitsu auras of powerful enemies either (K&T). Maybe they have powerful dormant abilities? (Although I don't want to think about it since they are so pathetic at this point).
Pandalax
2007-04-12, 14:09
The fight scenes in this episode were AMAZING! Talk about WOW. All the movements were so carefully drawn and some of the artwork in this episode looked really good. This episode makes up for the week's wait and last episode for sure.
The episode went pretty quickly but Grimmjow, with his moves, was pretty amazing. These new bad guys are way powerful - something that Ichigo couldn't even handle. Not bad - more level ups to come.
What I'm a bit worried about is, indeed, the opening. Orihime looks to be going to "the dark side" something I never would've expected ever. I guess she'll be suckered in by something just like Anakin in SW and you'll be, once again, like "doofus". Quite a shocker there. A lot of plot twists coming up. Might the "change" have something to do with Orihime being in love with Ichigo and him not reciprocating? Where does Rukia fall into the picture or is she more of a "sibling" to Ichigo?
Thankfully, I'm trying not to spoil myself with this one as I did with Naruto...
edit: Oh yeah, somebody was fearing a new filler arc coming up soon pointing out the closeness of the anime to the manga. Any point to that?
psycho bolt
2007-04-12, 15:01
This episode made future episodes even more promising.
edit: Oh yeah, somebody was fearing a new filler arc coming up soon pointing out the closeness of the anime to the manga. Any point to that?
Sooner or later fillers start, I'm thinking there's maybe approximately 26(+6/-6) or so maybe sooner or later, haven't checked good place to start next one though. I might be wrong though...That's my gut intuition telling :heh:.
Ashlotte
2007-04-12, 16:50
I had a feeling from last episodes Preview this one was going to be animated well and I wasnt disappointed in the least...Grimjaw kicking ass with just his fists was a awesome sight to behold lol.
New OP and ED was great aswell...Op for giving wonderful OrihimeXIchigo vibes (Holds up a OrihimeXIchigo banner...FIGHTO ORIHIME. :p ) and the ED was cool for those oh so loved shinigami in plains clothes shots. ;)
Great episode, Grimmjow bobbing and weaving before his coup de grace was just brilliant. Ichigo
New ED was nice, I always get a kick out of seeing Kenpachi in punk rock gear. Really suits him.
New ED was nice, I always get a kick out of seeing Kenpachi in punk rock gear. Really suits him.
This is the second type he gone for this look the first was in OVA 2 Yeah it suits him and his personality very well and he compliments Ikkaku from OVA 2 ED : D
http://img365.imageshack.us/img365/2467/vlcsnap37574cropsp9.th.jpg (http://img365.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlcsnap37574cropsp9.jpg)
it made me happy to see grimm so happy in this episode liek when he was jumping lol, seriosly tho, ichigo is made of steel like seriosly, taking that many punches to the face, i think a persons face would be shattered already. The animation for this episode was amazing like it looked movie quality for the fights between grimm and ichigo liek when ichigo flew into the air over the city. very excellent i hope they keep this up :)
Bonta Kun
2007-04-12, 19:00
I'm not gonna to follow suit like you all praising the episode.. but instead ...
Soi Fong .... :love: ...
Nanao :love:
:heh:
Its getting repetitive with everyone say how awesome the episode is :D
And it look like I'm gonna go fanboy crazy mode with a new character next week :naughty:
i love the ending, Nanao-chaaaaaannnn :love: lovely lovely NANAO-CHAAAANNNNN!!!
Sinestra
2007-04-12, 20:13
Well things are not looking too good for our heros at the moment. Renji, Matsumoto and Hitsugaya managed to pull off a win but barley and only because of the limit release.Hitsugaya got seriously wounded in the fight. Ichigo got his ass owned but i cant really blame the him Grimmjaw is very powerful and that was his normal form. Ichigo in every fight is now having two battles the one in front and the one from within keeping his inner hollow at bay is proving more difficult and after seeing and hearing what he said at the end of the episode seeing how banged up Rukia was i think a depression is on it way. Also, Ururu is down for the count and the rest of the crew got owned as well. The Capts are pushed to their limit right now no one is in any shape to fight anytime soon. Grimmjaw was right the only thing that saved his life was him leaving. I think everyone is going to have it rough for a while.
two more things
1 Tousen looked freakin bad ass
2 we have a new opening now the emphasis on Orihime was apparent from the start along with Aizan i wonder what hints for the future the op might mean
mist2123
2007-04-12, 20:38
I declare GrimmJaw as the world's bext boxer
highvolt4g3
2007-04-12, 21:17
eh, I find the Vaizards pretty lame so far. Hopefully they break out with some cool tricks. Their Japanese dialect is sooooo weird to me.
Haha, its only Hiyori and Hirako with the dialects. They both have an Osaka dialect. But it does sound weird if you're used to hearing standard Japanese. If you don't know Japanese and you noticed the difference in their dialect, thats pretty impressive.
I really can't get over this OP.
My favourite one so far.
Katsumara
2007-04-13, 00:22
Same here as far as the opening goes. :42 to :57 is awesome.
Thewanderer
2007-04-13, 00:45
ThatWhiteGuy, I'd delete those spoilers if I were you...
stonedzombie
2007-04-13, 01:46
for u manga readers: was the Ichigo/Grimmjow fight pretty much the same in the manga as it was in this ep?
More or less. Grim wasn't as flashy but was just as brutal.
From the preview, it seems he will be making his grand appearance in the next episode as well. I also hope his hawt dad is shown some where in the episode. Is it possible he passed his admirable sewing skill to Ishida? I get where Ishida got his attitude from, but how he got that formidable sewing skill totally eludes me.
Uryū's father, Ryūken, presents half of the the accepted core masculine traits: This is, to provide. The other half of typical traits, is to protect - which is apparent that he has not desire to so, simply for the sake of doing it. Unless of course, it made him some money...
Now with this in mind, perhaps his father is also half and half about other things. Sewing is a typical 'domestic' duty, and as such, is associated with being a woman. So long story short: It's quite plausible that Uryū's father has accepted all of the typical domestic duties as well, as his mother is seemingly absent, and this allows him to 'provide' with out touching his quincy side.
.. or I could be trying to hard, and Uryū could have simply picked it up out of boredom, or as a hand's on way to understand string-type things better. :)
The ep itself was pretty crappy. I was expecting a good finish to all the fights but Ichigo's but instead i got a load of crap that ended turbo-fast :S Heck, even Matsumoto kicked her opponent's behind like nothing... the ōmigodbad@ss feeling about the arrancars just went down the drain.
Grimjaw pummeling Ichigo was way too long... what was the point of stretching the scene out so long?
At least the new OP is very spoilerish and hands me some things to look towards to... other than that - this ep was pure disappointment.
Grimjaw is not an Arrancar, he's an Espada.. if ya follow the previous episode up more closely, you'll notice that there is a difference and reason for all of this. :)
The pummeling was at a perfect length IMHO - it was dramatized as such to show Grimjaw's cockiness. The maniacal laughter suggests that he's enjoying this directly out of spite against Ulquiorra and Aizen.
You know, I just thought of something funny. You know Keigo and Tatsuki can innately see ghosts...
What if they are just the equivalent of Ichigo/Ishida except un-nurtured?--i.e., they have parents that were former Captains or just extremely powerful? Would make some interesting dues ex machina moments when the young heroes are troubled later.
Maybe it's just poor retconning, but they haven't appeared to have trouble with reaitsu auras of powerful enemies either (K&T). Maybe they have powerful dormant abilities? (Although I don't want to think about it since they are so pathetic at this point).
It's been stated in earlier episodes that Yasutora and Orihime were 'given' their powers by Ichigo. Perhaps it's something to do with his own presence and affect on things around him? Those who are captain and vice-captain have to have their Retsu suppressed when the enter the real world, otherwise it can affect the balance and natural order of things. We know that Ichi's retsu is at this level as well, and the idea that his Retsu 'spills out' leaves the possibly that it may 'leak' into others that he is close to. We also know that he's unable to control his own retsu very well, so... any biters? :)
But personally, I think Keigo is a little bitch, I would pay good money to see him killed and removed from all further reference in the magna and anime.. But that's me!
Quit double, triple posting.. its annoying... see that little +quote at te bottom righ corner of each post? .. Click that and it turned to green.. Click on every single post that you want to reply then click post reply =.=
astrallionheart
2007-04-13, 04:09
It's been stated in earlier episodes that Yasutora and Orihime were 'given' their powers by Ichigo. Perhaps it's something to do with his own presence and affect on things around him? Those who are captain and vice-captain have to have their Retsu suppressed when the enter the real world, otherwise it can affect the balance and natural order of things. We know that Ichi's retsu is at this level as well, and the idea that his Retsu 'spills out' leaves the possibly that it may 'leak' into others that he is close to. We also know that he's unable to control his own retsu very well, so... any biters? :)
But personally, I think Keigo is a little bitch, I would pay good money to see him killed and removed from all further reference in the magna and anime.. But that's me!
Someone should just stand next to Captain Yamamoto--maybe if they just stood there long enough, they'd become powerful =P
Quit double, triple posting.. its annoying... see that little +quote at te bottom righ corner of each post? .. Click that and it turned to green.. Click on every single post that you want to reply then click post reply =.=
Ah, thanks for the tip! I think I was spoiled on another forum which auto-merged everything. :)
Grimjaw is not an Arrancar, he's an Espada.. if ya follow the previous episode up more closely, you'll notice that there is a difference and reason for all of this. :)
He is/They are still arrancar as in hollows that remove their masks and gain Soul Reaper powers.
Plus Keigo is funny, without him you won't get as much comedy (and to see his sister :))
@stonedzombie: Grimmjaw gets more damage with the Kuroi (black) getsuga though, as in it is a clearer and deeper wound (he actually looks like the surprise attack caught him in surprise and damaged).
KNETTER2000
2007-04-13, 04:41
Well.. that's normally what a "surprise attack " does..
catch people by surprise... hence the name.. :D
On the sewing note: since Ishi's pop is obviously all about the money.. has anyone considered that sewing your own clothes and mending the one's that get ripped instead of buying new ones is cheaper?
so.. the guy has taught his son to sew because that saves HIM money thus MAKING money..
I find this to be a very compelling theory.. right on the money so to say.
Master zoid pilot
2007-04-13, 06:40
He is/They are still arrancar as in hollows that remove their masks and gain Soul Reaper powers.
That's like saying the afro Shinigami is equal to a captain because though there both Shinigami.
Looks like Ichigo kinda likes getting beat up really good. Notice his wild smile after releasing the KGT...
Next up is "training for powerup" time.
No but I mean the race is still Arrancar like Afro-dude or Byakuya is a shinigami
Espade is a type of Arrancar, same as Captain is a class of shinigami
Master zoid pilot
2007-04-13, 07:15
No but I mean the race is still Arrancar like Afro-dude or Byakuya is a shinigami
Espade is a type of Arrancar, same as Captain is a class of shinigami
Oh I see, you were saying same race not equal levels with power :heh:
Uryū's father, Ryūken, presents half of the the accepted core masculine traits: This is, to provide. The other half of typical traits, is to protect - which is apparent that he has not desire to so, simply for the sake of doing it. Unless of course, it made him some money...
Now with this in mind, perhaps his father is also half and half about other things. Sewing is a typical 'domestic' duty, and as such, is associated with being a woman. So long story short: It's quite plausible that Uryū's father has accepted all of the typical domestic duties as well, as his mother is seemingly absent, and this allows him to 'provide' with out touching his quincy side.
.. or I could be trying to hard, and Uryū could have simply picked it up out of boredom, or as a hand's on way to understand string-type things better. :)
Hilarious! :heh: I especially like the part where the possibility of Ishida's picking up sewing skill to understand the trait that are alligned with his particular type of power is explored. I don't think any one of us in this section of the forum has thought of it this way.
episode gets a 10 from me, it was so good i felt like crying :). of course i think the part were grimjaw was puching ichigo endlessly was kind of lame. nevertheless it was great episode. kon opening was really nice...
Thewanderer
2007-04-13, 17:15
kon opening was really nice...It was missing something VERY important.
If the next OP lacks Hiyori... it's unforgivable.
kira_lacusXX
2007-04-13, 18:06
YES! Got to see Hitsugaaya kick ass :P And wow, Ichigo got punched the hell out of him.. I kinda felt the pain after awhile, like I mean, he kept punching.. and punching.. and punching, ahh. I really like that new OP, Kon singing was a niiiice touch, I love Aqua Timez songs :] Nova dancing in the background got me laughing for some reason.. The endings pretty good too, Rukia's dress looks way better than the one in the last ED, hehe. Except Ichigo ran for way too long.
This was an episode packed with pure dynamite action. The downside to this results that the Arrancar are stepping on the Shinigamis' tails and practically have them cornered. The pawnage was brutal and way out of composed proportions.
It is incredible that the evil guys have come light years of distance to which the good guys experienced trouble to keep up with them. Ichigo, in particular, at any moment he could not reach Grimmjow's level.
I remember well the 80's and 90's shounen classics like Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball Z, and Yu Yu Hakusho. Even after being moped and beaten like punching bags up to going so far as getting killed in combat, the protagonic hero always managed out of pure force of will; fighting spirit; or blind faith to make a miraculous comeback and return the ownage to the evil boss an X infinite amount of times.
As I am witnessing the development for the characters' strengthens, that plot device is not getting applied to Bleach. I think the writers are aiming more for the characters to internalize their issues in order for them to isolate the cause that makes them weak and come up with the solution to fix their problem.
The downhill poses that they have not much time to analyze their overall self, since the Arrancar getting freakin-über powerful with each hour that passes.
I have never read the manga when the Arrancar invaded Karakura Town. Though it is most likely that the manga also showed Grimmjow delivering the beating of a helltime to Ichigo, my guess is that the anime performed a wonderful job on focusing Grimmjows' bestial-bloodlust reactions and positioned the camera on each frame right as every bout lands on Ichigo's face per second. It was a visually stunning effect because the shoot made each to count as painful to Ichigo at every square inch on his face.
I thought for a moment that Ichigo would have ended idiotic or lobotomized with the trashing.
See, I'm going to have to dual file this one under "Best AND Worst Fight in Bleach." Grimmjaw was pretty cool to watch, save for the punch scene (too long). Ichigo crashing into the ground was suitably painful looking (traffic light for the pain), but it was the Amazing BOUNCING Ichigo that wrecked it for me. Have him impact and rip up the pavement; but bouncing like a big rubber Ichigo? Who thought that up?
6/10, I guess.
R.
Anyone notice now the Intro leaned toward Ichigo x Orihime, while the Outro leaned toward Ichigo x Rukia?
Way to keep us confused animation team >.>
^ Actually.. its a love triangle :o
who is the dark haired person seen behind ichigo before the intro shifts into everyone running in a desert? its like at 1:04
Mr Hat and Clogs
2007-04-14, 00:10
who is the dark haired person seen behind ichigo before the intro shifts into everyone running in a desert? its like at 1:04
Looks, kinda like Hollow Ichigo. But less angry... :twitch:
Thewanderer
2007-04-14, 05:25
Careful with the spoilers <.<
The "dark-haired" person behind Ichigo is Ichigo, just as Orihime and Aizen were shown earlier with shadowy images of themselves behind their color selves.
7thKeeper
2007-04-14, 06:30
Looks, kinda like Hollow Ichigo. But less angry... :twitch:
Looked like Kaien to me.
Mr Hat and Clogs
2007-04-14, 06:53
they look the same anyway, so I guess thats possible, and I completely forgot about him, since he was only a small part in the SS arc. Guess that would mean he didnt die then. Well.. die properly.
Kaien for Espada #1?
Damn OP!
Littlecloud
2007-04-14, 07:12
who is the dark haired person seen behind ichigo before the intro shifts into everyone running in a desert? its like at 1:04
Or maybe our beloved kaien-dono :heh:
No Marsala is correct, its only Ichigo with a more faded colour and no orange hair to blend in the background more
Wosho128
2007-04-14, 08:59
I'm disappointed. (Not with the actual episode but...)
I'm sick of seeing the main characters (Ichigo in this case) in Shonen get beat up repeatedly. (He was beat up a few episodes ago) I understand that authors of Shonen manga try to display the main character going through a wall of adversity to achieve their goals. But watching one-sided fights are boring for me. Ichigo barely scratched Grimmjow. I understand that Ichigo will kick butt in the future but he's going to have to go through some special training to match his opponents. *sigh* I'm sick of the "I have to get stronger so I'm going to have to train" formula in these series. I like the fact that manga/anime like "One Piece" ditch these kinds of cliches.
The Matsumoto, Hitsugaya and Renji fights were great though. Renji's special Bankai ability was my favorite technique displayed.
^ So you prefer.. Oh Shi- I'm getting own, it cant be happening.. !!!1! power UP! kinda story?
:twitch:
scorpio516
2007-04-14, 10:34
^ Actually.. its a love triangle :o
love POLYGON :D
Lets see if I can do this ascii..
.........Ichigo--------------
......../.........\.................\
Rukia..........Orihime---Tatsuki
...|............../........\
Renji...Matsumoto....Chizuru
And if you have any comments about the connon-ness of my graph, shut it, no one wants to hear it, I made this right now totally in fun :P
Anime Adoru
2007-04-14, 11:20
I'm disappointed. (Not with the actual episode but...)
I'm sick of seeing the main characters (Ichigo in this case) in Shonen get beat up repeatedly. (He was beat up a few episodes ago) I understand that authors of Shonen manga try to display the main character going through a wall of adversity to achieve their goals. But watching one-sided fights are boring for me. Ichigo barely scratched Grimmjaw. I understand that Ichigo will kick butt in the future but he's going to have to go through some special training to match his opponents. *sigh* I'm sick of the "I have to get stronger so I'm going to have to train" formula in these series. I like the fact that manga/anime like "One Piece" ditch these kinds of cliches.
Well, what do you expect. That's the emotional storyline they put us through. Disappointing us, dumping us, only to lift us up to even more enjoyment when he finally kicks butt... :)
ShadowClone
2007-04-14, 11:51
Everyone's talking about the "rapid-punch" beating Grimmjow gave Ichigo, but didn't anyone notice the "DBZ-trademark", ground-air-ground combo? :heh:
There ought to be an "anime-law" for that, so therefore I now propose:
Anime Law #???:
In a fight where the bad guy is shown to be beating the crap out of the hero, there will ALWAYS be one scene where the hero flies to the air from a strong blow, but before he reaches the highest point, the bad guy quickly appears on top of the hero and hits him downward, causing the hero to crash back into the ground.
Anime Law #???:
In a fight where the bad guy is shown to be beating the crap out of the hero, there will ALWAYS be one scene where the hero flies to the air from a strong blow, but before he reaches the highest point, the bad guy quickly appears on top of the hero and hits him downward, causing the hero to crash back into the ground.
Nice observation its common to most shonen anime which dont even have flash steps . Yeah you are correct its an unwritten anime law : D
Wosho128
2007-04-14, 14:36
^ So you prefer.. Oh Shi- I'm getting own, it cant be happening.. !!!1! power UP! kinda story?
:twitch:
That's what Bleach already is for the most part. No, I'm saying that:
Ichigo has gotten an utter beaten down in two consecutive fights. I understand that he's supposed to get a beat down every once in awhile but his fights are getting too one-sided as of late. He didn't have to win this fight; it would have been nice if he would have made the unreleased Grimmjow stagger a little bit though. All Ichigo could do was muster a few scratches on his opponent. But I know this is the Shonen element where the main character reflects on a lost fight and differences in abilities; the reflections work as a catalyst and the main character gets stronger. I'm just a little tired of the element. =P I still enjoy this series a bit though.
Hmmm...I like the new opening. It's not my favorite but it works!
deadroot
2007-04-14, 16:44
The only good points about episode 121 are:
(1) Awesome graphics
(2) Sparkling blood spewing from Ichigo's mouth
(3) Grimmjow doing his little victory dance
(4) Grimmjow cracking up from punching Ichigo and
(5) Mizuho and her fetish for men with shaved heads.
The rest of the animation was a little disappointing. I for one don't like the long fighting scenes between Ichigo and Grimmjow. It was too overdone with the 1 minute punching and walking scenes. (but it was hilarious I have to admit XD)...At times it came to the point where I was just bored outta my mind. I was also expecting more blood due the level of beatings Ichigo edured compared to the manga, but alas it was not so.
So overall... fighting sucks...not enough gore/blood, "too DBZ like" according to my cousin...but beautifully animated. =D
astrallionheart
2007-04-14, 17:15
Nice observation its common to most shonen anime which dont even have flash steps . Yeah you are correct its an unwritten anime law : D
You can say thanks to DBZ for that one =P
Instead of finishing off the hero, they always just throw them on the ground and give them time to recover. I.e., they are not true "villains" but more like just bullies trying to beat people up =P
wingdarkness
2007-04-14, 17:18
OK I just wached the ep last night and did anyone besdies me notice that Grimmjow was punching the $hit outta Ichigo??
Overall really intense and awesome episode...The one thing that stood out was that Grimmjow was punching the $hit out of Ichigo...The other thing was Grimmjow was really punching the $hit out of him...Additionally Grimmjow seemed to be punching the $hit out of him...
Other than that Renji actually beating someone nearly made my jaw fall off and ofcourse my jaw did fall off because Grimmjow was punching the $hit out Ichigo...I'm not a big fan of limiting powers until it gets out of hand but it seemed the whole aura of the non-Espada Arrancar's has now fallen a bit...They were really introduced admist an eerie backdrop and there whole little mini-unit get's their hollow holes kicked...
As for the fight where someone was getting the $hit punched out of them, Grimmjow's fighting style was beatifully exectued as it seemed to be reckless organization...Such natural and gifted movements which the animation team really captured...The character designs, (while they seemed to change a bit between the first part of the fight to the second) they were really gritty and humanistic...Parts of it really reminded me of some mid-90's stuff where the facial grit (especially that of Grimmjow) and artistic expression was always a given...
Previously to Grimmjow punching the $hit out of Ichigo, I honestly thought Grimmjow was never gonna be able to punch the $hit out of someone the way he punched the $hit outta Ichigo, but I just thought he was gonna be another generic cool badguy B before the next even baddder baddie, but he really showed me something in character during this episode..He almost appears to actually be innocent in his affection for wanting to fight...Aizen's wrath, the destruction of his team, Tousen's ire, all seemed far away compared to his passion and even what seemed to be a spec of compassion for wanting Ichi to rise to the challenge instead of just being a guy that was really, REALLY gettiing the $hit punched out of him...
And is it just me or does Ichigo need some serious taijutsu help...To have that kind of speed with no hand to hand combat to speak of is pretty bad...Grimmjow punching the $hit out of him made me fully realize this...Ichigo needs to put the sword down for a minute and learn what my boys in the street call "some hands"...
Great episode and I didin't even talk about the comedy of Ikkaku's crush which was hilarious...Anyways what did we learn?
--Yep, in this episode of Bleach Ichigo Kurosaki the representative shinigami, got the $hit and I mean shonen-$hit punched out of him...
KNETTER2000
2007-04-14, 17:23
I'm surprised you didn't cover the subject of Grimmjow punching the $hit outta Ichigo in that lenghty reply...
makes me wonder if you've even seen the episode..
I finally get it now! I have watched this ep about 3 times now and i now understand how ichigo will gain his "power up"... spectulation wise...
When we first met the vizard we were told a little about them, and how they found a way to survive the inner hallow and not loose themselves. Well in this episode we hear Hichigo say something along the lines of... "How far do you think you can get ON YOUR OWN".
Now when i put 2 and 2 togather i get this result... Ichigo and Hichigo must work togather as one. This i guess will be taught to him by the vizards. And result he will gain insane powers, enough to combat the arrancar. We see in the preview for the next ep that ichigo is fighting/training with the vizard so i think im on the right track.
Another thing i noticed, in the OP did you see ichigo with his mask? One side looked like the side we are used to seeing, The other was similar but completely white. I wonder if one side of the mask represents ichigo and the other hichigo...
And finally my only question is... Were The FCK is Zangetsu? He hasnt said a word for the longest time... let alone appeared to ichigo. Could it be possible Hichigo is blocking him?
Dont know how after Grimmjow punching the $hit out of Ichi , Ichi didnt suffer any brain damage . Know its shonen blah blah blah but still ... I mean no brain damage wow : D
his body isnt human flesh its some sort of super flexiable polyuraethynel uber rubber thats immune to damage, he just moans and bleeds alot to make it more interesting.
astrallionheart
2007-04-15, 02:08
Pretty much just a rain of light jabs, otherwise Ichigo would've been blow back more in that flurry of blows (or any single one of them). I think it was more like getting a million painful slaps =P
KNETTER2000
2007-04-15, 03:02
Dont know how after Grimmjow punching the $hit out of Ichi , Ichi didnt suffer any brain damage . Know its shonen blah blah blah but still ... I mean no brain damage wow : D
well, if we purely stick to shonen.. based on the fights ichi's lost , the way he looked back at him losing and orihime being swatted away by Yami and seeing Rukia being impaled by grimm + the desperate will to protect all his friends from harm..
He should've gone Super Vaizard level 5, utterly destroy Grimm with just a dirty look, merge with Chad and destroy all of huece mundo by now..
That, or he just hasn't got anything to damage..
Funniest part is after Grimmjow punched Ichigo and sent him flying, Grimjow slowly walking towards Ichigo while in the background you still hear Ichigo slamming into things.
good stuff
Pretty much just a rain of light jabs, otherwise Ichigo would've been blow back more in that flurry of blows (or any single one of them). I think it was more like getting a million painful slaps =P
well i doubt anyone can do that much with each punch being so freaking hard..That speed and that hard? nahh... :heh:
scorpio516
2007-04-15, 11:04
Dont know how after Grimmjow punching the $hit out of Ichi , Ichi didnt suffer any brain damage . Know its shonen blah blah blah but still ... I mean no brain damage wow : D
Simple, its not his REAL body. He left that in his room IIRC. Its only his soul getting punched ;)
Simple, its not his REAL body. He left that in his room IIRC. Its only his soul getting punched ;)
Nope :D Injuries inflicted on soul are directly proportional to the body . How do I know this Ep 114 14.33 onwards
Godly_senselessness
2007-04-15, 14:48
I was really dissapointed that i did'nt get to watch the hollow side of Ichigo battle Grimmjaw.He would have really taught him a lesson.All in all that made the episode leave me a little hollow :D
pothead21
2007-04-15, 14:52
ichi did get the shit beat out of him.
when they took off the restrictions, i loved the look on their faces when they got all scared ^_^ that made my day
just incase
i didnt get to far in the manga but i got up to the part when ichi goes to the visar. but im wondering if he can win against grimjaw
btw i like the new intro... and outro
Nope :D Injuries inflicted on soul are directly proportional to the body . How do I know this Ep 114 14.33 onwards
wait does that mean when kon is inside Ichigo's body, kon also gets beaten up and feels the pain?
Didnt seem like that when Kon was in ichi's body when fighting Grand Fisher back in the early eps lol
Naah when Ichi's soul does enter his body the damage is transferred to his body . Or how else could you explain Ichi in bandages too in ep 114 after his soul only suffered damage from Yami
On a lighter note Mizuho Asano dedication / shading
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Mr Hat and Clogs
2007-04-16, 00:37
Yeah, the way injuries are transfered from Soul -> Body is a weird one to me. I guess the injuries to the Soul are transfered to the Body only once he re-enters his body. Anyway, I guess it is something that isn't touched on to deeply or it would probably lead to a few to many complexities or contradictions. I would hazard a guess by saying that wounds to the Soul are possibly more superficial/heal faster when transfered to the Body (unless in an environment rich with Soul particles like SS), so the need for the bandages is more just to support/hide bruises, and/or give the image that he just had the $hit kicked out of him.
Just my thoughts on it, would be nice to see something concrete though. I cant remember if wounds were covered in an earlier chapter/episode or not.
The Small One
2007-04-16, 00:46
Naah when Ichi's soul does enter his body the damage is transferred to his body . Or how else could you explain Ichi in bandages too in ep 114 after his soul only suffered damage from Yami
A mistake from the anime crew. (I don't remember the manga at the moment)
I think it's not really that the damage is transferred, it's more like a psychosymatic thing: Ichigo thinks he is feeling pain, so he has to use a bandage, while in reality the body itself is still okay. Well, actually his body is a dead body, so there can't really be any wounds, because they wouldn't heal.
A mistake from the anime crew. (I don't remember the manga at the moment)
I think it's not really that the damage is transferred, it's more like a psychosymatic thing: Ichigo thinks he is feeling pain, so he has to use a bandage, while in reality the body itself is still okay. Well, actually his body is a dead body, so there can't really be any wounds, because they wouldn't heal.
The more likely scenario is that Ichigo enjoys bandages over his body since he practices martial arts of various sorts in his house :)
Lemartes
2007-04-16, 12:11
Pretty much just a rain of light jabs, otherwise Ichigo would've been blow back more in that flurry of blows (or any single one of them). I think it was more like getting a million painful slaps =P
Well, even light japs push you back. You have never been hit in the face, right? :) (boxing for example)
Anyway, it's a manga. That pretty much explains everything.
astrallionheart
2007-04-16, 13:38
Well, even light japs push you back. You have never been hit in the face, right? :) (boxing for example)
Anyway, it's a manga. That pretty much explains everything.
I have, but mostly I just flopped back on my own instinctively because I heard my nose go "crunch", not like there was actually enough momentum in the jab actually knock me around.
Yoruichi
2007-04-16, 16:43
Awsome all the way around for sure. Animation, fights, suspense with a dash of comedy.. Mizuho :love: is really purdy, when she isn't all psycho. Love when Ikkaku pulls out the wooden sword and mutters I am not bald, Keigo is like oh shit.
I have a little more respect for Renji after seeing him totally obliterate his Arrancar adversary with one big ass blast, that was sweet. To me it seems once the restriction was lifted it was no challenge for the good guys really, they dispatched them pretty handily, I mean aside from Hitsugaya getting injured it wasn't much of an issue. All this done by 1 captain, 3 vice captains and Rukia, if the rest of the Arrancar brood are like these guys, I'm pretty sure the rest of the 13 squads won't have much of a problem. Then again there is still mister Jaggerjack along with Aizen, Tousen and Gin, which right there may be trouble enough to take down the squads, not to mention we havn't seen the rest of the baddies yet.
Looks like in the preview Ishida is finally getting back into the frey, and Ichigo has a little heart to heart with the Viazards, should be intresting, hopefully Ichi can harness his inner hollow's powers. Boy does he need too, there is no way in his current state he can beat Grimmjow, using his uber powers only makes Hichigo come out faster, and even Ichigo said theres no way that alone would beat him, great fight scenes though between the two. Now that I think of it, I can't imagine Grimm's altered state, I'm sure it will be a monster.
Now Grimm has to face the music with Aizen, Tousen said he was furious with him, but he seemed pretty calm back in Hueco Mundo, then again Aizen is always level headed, I don't even think I've ever seen him lose his cool or get visibly upset.
Some last thoughts, I just love the opening song, the ending song isn't bad but the opening is sweet. Also does anyone really know what Matsumoto's Shikai or Bankai does, her sword turns to what looks like dust. Is it something like Byakuya's Bankai where he controls all petals/blades, not really sure what hers does. Golden was hillarious I thought, who woulda known Hanatarou's powers transformed his Zanpaktou into a death dealing scalpel, nice attack though unleashing all the wounds it stored up lol.
Once again hopefully anticipating next episode, damn I wrote another novel, my bad :/ Peace out anime peeps!
Rangiku's shikai has been revealed in the Bountu Arc . It was obvious what her shikai was from KiraVsRangiku but it was revealed in the Bountu Arc how it works
089 - Rematch! Ishida vs. Nemu ( 10.20 onwards )
Yoruichi
2007-04-16, 18:06
Hmmm I musta missed that Bounto episode.
mist2123
2007-04-16, 19:20
:D well i doubt anyone can do that much with each punch being so freaking hard..That speed and that hard? nahh... :heh:
its luffy gatling gun:D grimmjaw copied the technique
NoSanninWa
2007-04-16, 22:31
Hmmm I musta missed that Bounto episode.
Episode 86, "Rangiku dances! Cut down the invisible enemy!" It was one of the better bounto episodes.
HurricaneHige
2007-04-16, 22:54
"better bount episode" really means nothing XD
its like saying "smartest kid with downs"
at any rate, anyone know when this OP will be out? :D
Thewanderer
2007-04-16, 23:07
"better bount episode" really means nothing XD
its like saying "smartest kid with downs"Why? It's not like it's any different than anything else Bleach.
NoSanninWa
2007-04-16, 23:09
"better bount episode" really means nothing XD
its like saying "smartest kid with downs"
Some of the bounto episodes were actually quite good. Some were pure crap, but that doesn't mean that they all were.
Thewanderer
2007-04-16, 23:32
Well said NSW:p
A mistake from the anime crew. (I don't remember the manga at the moment)
I think it's not really that the damage is transferred, it's more like a psychosymatic thing: Ichigo thinks he is feeling pain, so he has to use a bandage, while in reality the body itself is still okay. Well, actually his body is a dead body, so there can't really be any wounds, because they wouldn't heal.
Wrong, not a mistake, in the manga in the end of the Memories of the Rain mini-arc (and also the OVa, not sure about the anime), Rukia explains that injuries are sustained when you are back in your real body. She healed him but her powers could only heal so much, so even when Ichigo returned to his real body he had some injuries left.
Plus in the manga version Ichi had bandages too.
Makashi_Menace
2007-04-17, 00:45
Why? It's not like it's any different than anything else Bleach.
That's what I thought so too.
It's probably the "all fillers are crap" mentality that many anime fans seem to possess.
While it is true that some Bounto episodes leave much to be desired, the same could be said about some Bleach episodes.
I actually enjoyed the appearance of Hichigo in fillers and Hated Kariya Vs Ichi Just as NSW summed it up
Some of the bounto episodes were actually quite good. Some were pure crap, but that doesn't mean that they all were.
Makashi_Menace
2007-04-17, 01:17
Kariya vs Ichigo is so badly anti-climatic that, they could just make Kariya accidentally destroy himself while attempting to set off the "whatever-it's-called" bombs and it would still make a better conclusion than the one we've seen.
The Small One
2007-04-17, 04:31
Wrong, not a mistake, in the manga in the end of the Memories of the Rain mini-arc (and also the OVa, not sure about the anime), Rukia explains that injuries are sustained when you are back in your real body. She healed him but her powers could only heal so much, so even when Ichigo returned to his real body he had some injuries left.
Plus in the manga version Ichi had bandages too.
Well it does kind of make sense: A Gigai is meant as a method of recovering from fatal wounds, which would be easier, if the body takes those wounds away from your soul.
However there is still the question, how a dead body can heal wounds. ;) But that's probably over-analyzing.
Thewanderer
2007-04-17, 08:55
Kariya vs Ichigo is so badly anti-climatic that, they could just make Kariya accidentally destroy himself while attempting to set off the "whatever-it's-called" bombs and it would still make a better conclusion than the one we've seen.Yeah. It's a shame since most of the other fights in that arc were awesome. Renji's first anime win, Haineko revealed(the rest of that fight was nicely animated I must add), and Rukia actually not being useless(vs Yoshi)
Kariya was kinda cool too. Kinda.
wingdarkness
2007-04-17, 09:15
Kariya vs Ichigo is so badly anti-climatic that, they could just make Kariya accidentally destroy himself while attempting to set off the "whatever-it's-called" bombs and it would still make a better conclusion than the one we've seen.
Well that's why my opinion of the Bounto arc went from good to just above average...That final fight had no soul and with Kariya's crew all dead it honestly had no point to it...But to be fair it was animated quite well...
While it is true that some Bounto episodes leave much to be desired, the same could be said about some Bleach episodes.
QFT...
Thewanderer
2007-04-17, 09:23
Well that's why my opinion of the Bounto arc went from good to just above average...That final fight had no soul and with Kariya's crew all dead it honestly had no point to it...But to be fair it was animated quite well...It's Bleach, after all. Even if the plot sucks, it has to look pretty doing it:heh:
actually the only fight i actually liked in the whole arc was the last episode. At leas tit attempted to connect the stories together, how ichigo gradually loses control over his hollow side. The other fights are generally pretty separated from the story o.O
Well~ the bounto episodes does sucks but the very beginning of the invasion of soul society is as exciting as the SS arc and well... the first fight between Kariya and Byakuya was awesome. Truly good stuffs.
Unfortunately it did not developed well from there. It has the potential to be good but i think the crew screwed it up.... probably to just end the bounto arc abruptly just so they could continue the arrancar arc.
Thewanderer
2007-04-17, 12:29
probably to just end the bounto arc abruptly just so they could continue the arrancar arc.IMO they shoulda just went on and done it right. Only bad things are comming from ending that arc too early, invcluding this manga we're catching up to... and I'm pretty sure there'll be a riot if the anime starts taking a different direction.
i'm sorry if this has already been discussed here. i'm out of town and can't check this regularly. anyway...
Grimmjow's fighting style:
did anyone else think it reminded them of Ikkaku? he was just throwing himself in there. it was all about having fun. granted, he wasn't worried at all about getting hurt, but still. especially when he's slapping the spit out of Ichi and then he starts dancing around a little, kind of Muhammed Ali style.
i thought his ass-handing of Ichi was a combination of Kariya's (minus the wind) and Ikkaku's balls-out style. even though we had to watch our hero get the stew smacked out of him yet again, it was actually fun to watch Grimmjow. I already liked him from the manga, but now I really like him!
well Grimm was looking for the strongest one, and likes to enjoy his battle ala 11th squad so yeah..
Makashi_Menace
2007-04-18, 01:20
did anyone else think it reminded them of Ikkaku? he was just throwing himself in there. it was all about having fun. granted, he wasn't worried at all about getting hurt, but still. especially when he's slapping the spit out of Ichi and then he starts dancing around a little, kind of Muhammed Ali style.
Apart from the love to fight, notice that both Ikkaku and Grimmjow have coloured eye-shadows.... Might be a character design style on specific character types.
Apart from the love to fight, notice that both Ikkaku and Grimmjow have coloured eye-shadows.... Might be a character design style on specific character types.
Speaking of Ikkaku, since he was not a vice captain or captain, he did not have a restriction put onto him right? I am pretty sure no but if I was wrong, I would like to know.
Renji did mention that vice-captains and captains both had limits put onto them, so I could picture one being put on him but also at same time I would say no.
Nope, limits are put on only captains and vice captain. Ikkaku is a 3rd seat, so no.
Speaking of Ikkaku, since he was not a vice captain or captain, he did not have a restriction put onto him right? I am pretty sure no but if I was wrong, I would like to know.
Renji did mention that vice-captains and captains both had limits put onto them, so I could picture one being put on him but also at same time I would say no.
That's correct. Only Captains and Vice Captains have a restriction put on them to reduce a imbalance in spirit power I believe.
Though it doesn't make sense seeming people below those roles could be even stronger than a Captain or Vice Captain making a imbalance.
And Renji did mention he had a restriction put on him when he fought Ichigo in Soul Society for Ichigo was surprised that he was stronger than he was in the normal world and thus Renji explained the situation he was in.
Actually it isnt so senseless. Except for 11th division and the other main characters, most 3rd seats are pathetic. To be fair, most of the vice captains themselves have not much strength to speak of , so maybe a limit on them isn't so necessary.
Deathkillz
2007-04-18, 17:08
well im glad that it was a limiter causing hitsu and renji to display such a weak image but with that said they only just managed to beat them...scary thing is that those arrancar are weak compared to the top ten :twitch: ichigo got lucky and now its interesting to see how he will learn to control his hollow side with the help of a certain someone :3
great fights scenes btw ~
seriously, the GJ-Ichi fight was one of the best in a while (well, okay, it was the best since Ikkaku... sorry ururu!). even though Ichi was pawned, it was really great to watch.
and i hadn't thought about the eye shadow until just now. i'm glad you pointed that out. i even read the manga and it hadn't occurred to me. interesting...
as a manga reader, it was really cool to see GJ actually fighting with movement. in the manga it's always kind of hard to tell what his fighting style is, other than the fact that he loves brute force.
okay, on to episode 122.
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