New "Public Groups" on AnimeSuki?

[felix]

Silly Question..
Q. Can we have some abstract public groups? :cool:
Groups that are more or less straight copies of the main Registered Users group, hence withought any sort of special permissions, that differ only in decoration of the username. For example if your memeber of group XYZ after the username you have something like ^{<font size="1">XYZ</font>} (with this template applying for every group)

I know Vb allows for creation of such groups were people can enter and exit a group (one group at a time) withought any help from mods/admin (as in: join request confirms)

Well, something like only serious groups: Fansubber Group, IT Group, Photoshop Group, FanArtist Group, etc.

[Aoie_Emesai]

Silly Question..
Q. Can we have some abstract public groups? :cool:
Groups that are more or less straight copies of the main Registered Users group, hence withought any sort of special permissions, that differ only in decoration of the username. For example if your memeber of group XYZ after the username you have something like ^{<font size="1">XYZ</font>} (with this template applying for every group)

I know Vb allows for creation of such groups were people can enter and exit a group (one group at a time) withought any help from mods/admin (as in: join request confirms)

Well, something like only serious groups: Fansubber Group, IT Group, Photoshop Group, FanArtist Group, etc.

Would that be necessary? I want mini bananas around my user name then ^_^.

[felix]

@ Aoie
Lol~ :heh:.. Even tho' it can be abused I just wanted to ask if this silly thing could be implemented so I can tell who's what just by looking at their username :)

:D Simple yes/no is good enough..
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I'll take it since nobody said anything it's a NO.. -_^
Oh well....

[NoSanninWa]

@ Aoie
Lol~ :heh:.. Even tho' it can be abused I just wanted to ask if this silly thing could be implemented so I can tell who's what just by looking at their username :)

:D Simple yes/no is good enough..
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I'll take it since nobody said anything it's a NO.. -_^
Oh well....

Actually I found your suggestion to be absolutely fascinating and immediately started a discussion in the mod forum about how best to implement it. Cool idea. It would be extremely helpful for newcomers to know who is a fansubber or who loves to photoshop banners. There are many times when that information would change how people are perceived and responded to. It would also make it a lot easier to be a newbie who doesn't know anyone yet.

You'll probably see this implemented sometime soon.

[Ledgem]

Make sure to include an ex-fansubber group please :)

[Daniel E.]

Actually I found your suggestion to be absolutely fascinating and immediately started a discussion in the mod forum about how best to implement it. Cool idea. It would be extremely helpful for newcomers to know who is a fansubber or who loves to photoshop banners. There are many times when that information would change how people are perceived and responded to. It would also make it a lot easier to be a newbie who doesn't know anyone yet.

You'll probably see this implemented sometime soon.

I am guessing this will be optional and that it would not have a "default group" for the people not interested in it. >_< !!

[Kyuusai]

Silly Question..
Q. Can we have some abstract public groups? :cool:
Groups that are more or less straight copies of the main Registered Users group, hence withought any sort of special permissions, that differ only in decoration of the username. For example if your memeber of group XYZ after the username you have something like ^{<font size="1">XYZ</font>} (with this template applying for every group)

I know Vb allows for creation of such groups were people can enter and exit a group (one group at a time) withought any help from mods/admin (as in: join request confirms)

Well, something like only serious groups: Fansubber Group, IT Group, Photoshop Group, FanArtist Group, etc.

I really like this idea, I just hate restricting myself to just one. :cool:

[Aoie_Emesai]

Actually I found your suggestion to be absolutely fascinating and immediately started a discussion in the mod forum about how best to implement it. Cool idea. It would be extremely helpful for newcomers to know who is a fansubber or who loves to photoshop banners. There are many times when that information would change how people are perceived and responded to. It would also make it a lot easier to be a newbie who doesn't know anyone yet.

You'll probably see this implemented sometime soon.

I suppose that would be good in it's own way. I wouldn't mind having a little extra on my user name. Makes me feel more special ^_^.

[NoSanninWa]

I am guessing this will be optional and that it would not have a "default group" for the people not interested in it. >_< !!Absolutely 100% optional. It is just a way for you to choose to clique and identify yourselves. If you have no interest, then just don't join a public group.

I suppose that would be good in it's own way. I wouldn't mind having a little extra on my user name. Makes me feel more special ^_^.We're thinking of having it list the title under your name that best describes you. You can join groups like Fansubber, Photshopper, Artist and choose one of them as your identity. It will then list the primary group under your username though your profile will show all the groups you've chosen to belong to. Your posts will look something like this:

http://www.palinoia.com/nightwish/ranksample.jpg

Though it might be implemented slightly differently. Obviously IRC Team and Staff Team would not be available as public groups. ;)

Can anyone suggest any other groups that we might want to implement? So far I'm only thinking of Fansubber, Photoshopper, IT Group and Artist. What else should we include? Would Fanfic Writer be popular?

Make sure to include an ex-fansubber group please :)That's an interesting request. I can definitely see why you might want it, but I'm not sure we want to fill every tiny niche. I think you should have to decide if you still want to be identified as a fansubber even though you are no longer actively participating in the activity.

[Riker]

Question: Besides IRC Team and Staff Team, is there a criteria for joining the other groups? I mean, can someone claim to be a fansubber when he's actually not?

The term "Photoshopper" is a bit broad. Can we have a term for avatar and sig makers? Would "Avatar/Signature maker" be sufficient or do we have to seperate it into "Avatar maker" and "Signature maker" in case someone only does one of the two?

[NoSanninWa]

I'm thinking I'm going to have to split off a dozen responses from this thread to form a new "Let's discuss Public Groups" thread. We're still discussing the exact implementation, but to answer your question, they work just like Cats suggested. Anyone can join these groups. That's why they are public. The advantage of these groups is to identify yourself to your peers so there is no real advantage to lying other than annoying other members and making the moderators upset. Yeah, there are always people who are a-holes eager to do that, but we are already used to dealing with such "people" on a daily basis.

The term "Photoshopper" is a bit broad. Can we have a term for avatar and sig makers? Would "Avatar/Signature maker" be sufficient or do we have to seperate it into "Avatar maker" and "Signature maker" in case someone only does one of the two?
Do you think there is an advantage to being that specific?

[Kyuusai]

I'm putting in a vote for "Scanlator" group, or similar.

I'd say something about including particular skills in the groups, like "Scanlator - Translator" or "Fansubber - Encoder", but I think that would just fall into the issue of too many niche groups.

I don't think there'd be any advantage to having separate groups for avatar and sig-makers, considering that they use the same/similar skills in Photoshop, but it may be advantageous to have separate groups for, say, people who use Photoshop in another pursuit versus people who use Photoshop to do freebies for other board members.

[Riker]

Do you think there is an advantage to being that specific?

You mean whether to have the term "Avatar/Signature maker" or whether to divide that term into two?

For the former, I think it's helpful to identify who are the ones who make avatars and signatures as on a forum, it's very common to request for those.

For the latter, I think "Avatar/Signature maker" should be enough. I'm just curious about the opinions of other avie and sig makers.

[NoSanninWa]

Perhaps then we will have Avy/Siggy Maker instead of Photoshopper. How would you prefer to be called? "Avy/Siggy Maker" or "Avatar/Signature Maker"? I see the former used quite frequently and it is more fun, but I perhaps the formal name would be better.

I'm putting in a vote for "Scanlator" group, or similar. Good one. I had somehow overlooked that group. Are there many of you on AnimeSuki?

[The Small One]

Actually I found your suggestion to be absolutely fascinating and immediately started a discussion in the mod forum about how best to implement it. Cool idea.

I think it is interessting, that you (the mods in general) didn't think of this yourself. It would have been one the first thing I implemented, if I had a forum.

IIRC, it's also possible to have special (sub)forums, which are only accessible/visible by members of special groups.
Maybe it's also something to think about. (I could imagine Avatar makers wanting to discuss their skills, which probably wouldn't interest others much)



I am guessing this will be optional and that it would not have a "default group" for the people not interested in it. >_< !!

Actually, IIRC every user belongs to special groups. It's just not always shown. There are groups like "unregistered", "standard user", "moderator", "admin" and the like. This would just be an additional thing.


BTW, two other Groups which could be useful:
One group for those, who are busy maintaining the main site, adding new torrents and renaming or removing old ones.
One for those providing mirrors

[Kyuusai]

Perhaps then we will have Avy/Siggy Maker instead of Photoshopper. How would you prefer to be called? "Avy/Siggy Maker" or "Avatar/Signature Maker"? I see the former used quite frequently and it is more fun, but I perhaps the formal name would be better.

Good one. I had somehow overlooked that group. Are there many of you on AnimeSuki?

I personally would think "Avatar/Signature Maker" would be better, even though it's a bit long. Perhaps Signature could be reduced to "Sig" if length is a problem.

As for scanlators... I'm not sure how statistically significant we are, and I don't personally know any other scanlators here, but I have noticed several during my "travels" on the AS forums.

[Daniel E.]

Actually, IIRC every user belongs to special groups. It's just not always shown. There are groups like "unregistered", "standard user", "moderator", "admin" and the like. This would just be an additional thing.

Well, I dont really know all the details regarding this new feature, but I am hoping is not going to be like the hidden rep. option, were you are actually left with a black dot (mark) regardless of your reason for hidden it in the first place.

That is, if I decide to not join a group, I am hoping it doesn't leave a mark on my posts saying so. >_< !!

At the same time, I am not gonna make a lot of fuzz if it does. I am just trowing my two cents here. :p

[KiNA]

Well, I assumed if you applied for a group you'll want to have it display on your username tab.. if you are not interested in joining any, yours would be normal view like the current one <--

I guessed I belong to the graphic design group =/ altho I rarely have time to do requests anymore, with the occasional freebies I throw in my thread.

AV/Sig Maker would suffice IMO.. Sig Maker are fine but AV Maker could bring a different connotation :naughty:

:D

I just hope peoples dont start bombarding those in AV/Sig maker group with pm request :uhoh:

[Kyuusai]

I just hope peoples dont start bombarding those in AV/Sig maker group with pm request :uhoh:

That's one thing I did worry about.

I definitely think we should avoid having too many groups, but perhaps this might be a case where dividing the groups would be justified: One group for makers open to commissions/freebies, one not.

Then again, maybe if one isn't open to commissions, they can just choose another, more general group for their primary.

[NightWish]

if I decide to not join a group, I am hoping it doesn't leave a mark on my posts saying so. >_< !!Nothing will change unless you (the user) actively chooses to participate. If you do you, you'll be able to pick from a list of groups to join, and from that list which is be used for display. You could join groups and not display anything. Also, while this idea would use public groups, to provide a user-driven join/part mechanism, we have no plans to make it effect anything other than the visuals (i.e. no hidden forums, extra or restricted access, etc.).

[Daniel E.]

Nothing will change unless you (the user) actively chooses to participate.

That's good to hear. :)

Nevertheless, if for some reason I come up with a nice division/name for a group, I'll let you guys now. ;)

[martino]

Nice stuff. I actually wanted to ask about this feature, but kind of forgot about it. Thanks Cats and the ASuki team! :)

How about CCCP Support Staff (or something like that)? Since some of the CCCP people very often help out in the Playback section.

[NoSanninWa]

IIRC, it's also possible to have special (sub)forums, which are only accessible/visible by members of special groups.
Maybe it's also something to think about. (I could imagine Avatar makers wanting to discuss their skills, which probably wouldn't interest others much)It is possible, we just aren't likely to implement special closed forums for our "special" members.


BTW, two other Groups which could be useful:
One group for those, who are busy maintaining the main site, adding new torrents and renaming or removing old ones.
One for those providing mirrors
That is about what we use the feature for.

Well, I dont really know all the details regarding this new feature, but I am hoping is not going to be like the hidden rep. option, were you are actually left with a black dot (mark) regardless of your reason for hidden it in the first place.

That is, if I decide to not join a group, I am hoping it doesn't leave a mark on my posts saying so. >_< !!Um. No. It would simply not have an additional label. And I imagine that many people won't bother to join a group so you'll have lots of company.

How about CCCP Support Staff (or something like that)? Since some of the CCCP people very often help out in the Playback section.I doubt we'd support the CCCP that specifically. Though perhaps they would like to join the IT Support Group.

[felix]

Actually I found your suggestion to be absolutely fascinating and immediately started a discussion in the mod forum about how best to implement it. Cool idea. It would be extremely helpful for newcomers to know who is a fansubber or who loves to photoshop banners. There are many times when that information would change how people are perceived and responded to. It would also make it a lot easier to be a newbie who doesn't know anyone yet.

You'll probably see this implemented sometime soon.

Absolutely 100% optional. It is just a way for you to choose to clique and identify yourselves. If you have no interest, then just don't join a public group.

We're thinking of having it list the title under your name that best describes you. You can join groups like Fansubber, Photshopper, Artist and choose one of them as your identity. It will then list the primary group under your username though your profile will show all the groups you've chosen to belong to. Your posts will look something like this:

http://www.palinoia.com/nightwish/ranksample.jpg

Though it might be implemented slightly differently. Obviously IRC Team and Staff Team would not be available as public groups. ;)

Can anyone suggest any other groups that we might want to implement? So far I'm only thinking of Fansubber, Photoshopper, IT Group and Artist. What else should we include? Would Fanfic Writer be popular?

That's an interesting request. I can definitely see why you might want it, but I'm not sure we want to fill every tiny niche. I think you should have to decide if you still want to be identified as a fansubber even though you are no longer actively participating in the activity.
You might not want to devide it too much.. for say I have skills in Flash and InDesign does that mean there's some sort of need for such devisions to exist... I still think of myself as a Photoshoper. :cool: Even if I'm more into vectors then raster graphics. You could add Graphic Designer... if Photoshoper is too Photoshop related. (I'm guessing Graphic designer fits for 3d-modler etc.)

Also things like Avy/Sig Maker are too close to a ranking system for Photoshoper. Bad idea IMO, people will always say they're a Photoshopper as primary anyways.

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Is there really a point to Ex-Fansubber, if you spent that much time that you would call yourself that I don't see why it would be wrong to just call yourself Fansubber. ;)

I think it's better to think of groups Not as something you excell at but something you're into. If you're a n00b or pro, current or former participant, or <insert other ranking criteria here> there shouldn't be a problem for you to belong to Group X

Fansubber
Scanlator
IT Group
Artist
Graphic Designer
Webdesigner

..maybe, so everyone can have a group:
Shounen Fan
Slice of Life Fan
Comedy Fan
Fantasy Fan
Horror Fan
Romance Fan
Sci-fi Fan
Adventure Fan
Mecha Fan
Action Fan
...etc. (tho' I think I got them all)

I think it is interessting, that you (the mods in general) didn't think of this yourself. It would have been one the first thing I implemented, if I had a forum.

IIRC, it's also possible to have special (sub)forums, which are only accessible/visible by members of special groups.
Maybe it's also something to think about. (I could imagine Avatar makers wanting to discuss their skills, which probably wouldn't interest others much)

I think it's somewhat of a blessing.
Adding groups is nice since you can knows who's who by looking at who's in the group, but it's also bad. It basicly means people have to pass some sort of barier before they can post. The only scenario were this is a good is when you want to create a place only for 'professional' sorta speak.

Trust me it's ugly when you have to go thru' a registration faze 100times in a forum. ;)

[Ledgem]

Is there really a point to Ex-Fansubber, if you spent that much time that you would call yourself that I don't see why it would be wrong to just call yourself Fansubber. ;)
I'd say that a good majority of the fansubber communtiy is very pride-based. If you see someone claiming to be something that they aren't, it's almost hurtful to your pride, because they're making light of something that you consider to be very important. Sure, I put 2+ years into fansubbing, but out of respect for those currently fansubbing, I probably wouldn't list myself as a fansubber. I do want credit from the community for the work I put in, but it'd probably confuse some users and earn me a flaming or two from active fansubbers. Not that I care for that last reason much, but I think everything else is relatively valid.

I could understand not wanting to implement it, of course. Especially if there's a concern that we'll have too many groups. Hopefully that clears it up a bit, though. It wasn't a case of asking for stuff that pertains specifically to me ("wireless keyboard users" or "dual monitor users" or "people with Hello Kitty somewhere on their computer chassis" being examples of that).

I do like the overall idea, though. Hopefully the groups won't be too narrowed-down, but they also won't be so broad that people don't feel fairly represented by those that do apply to them.

[The Small One]

Adding groups is nice since you can knows who's who by looking at who's in the group, but it's also bad. It basicly means people have to pass some sort of barier before they can post. The only scenario were this is a good is when you want to create a place only for 'professional' sorta speak.

Well, it isn't really a barrier, since you don't need to be a member of any group (except of 'registered users', which you become automatically) to post something.

And those group-specific forums I was talking about are indeed some sort of 'professional' thing. For example the example I already wrote: Those avatar/signature artists, that maybe like to discuss about their techniques and skills. It's a matter, which shouldn't even interesst the "normal" users (and isn't really very on-topic in an anime-board), therefore nobody would even miss it, if he weren't in the group.
Another example: Staff from the main site (unlike the forum staff, who most likely already have their own hidden forum) are probably interessted in talking about things concerning their work, which maybe isn't even meant to be read by normal users, and mirror-admins may announce stuff like downtimes due to maintenance to their colleagues.

Just a few examples.
It's not like somebody is thinking about creating 'Naruto Fan', 'One Piece Fan', 'Bleach Fan'... Groups, which are needed to read the corresponding forums.

[felix]

Ledgem... You have a very good point. ^^

[Aoie_Emesai]

Cats - If I had to choose b/t a header to go along with my name, I wouldn't want fan along with it. I think another word would be better. (no ideas at the moment)

ps: Listening to Rurutia ^_^

[NightWish]

Five public user groups (http://forums.animesuki.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups) are now available. You can join as many as you like but you are only allowed to nominate one to be your "display" group.

(And yes, you are also free to ignore them... Daniel E. :p )

[Daniel E.]

(And yes, you are also free to ignore them... Daniel E. :p )

I'll have to admit that I feel a bit strange for being against the flow on this one. :heh:

[KiNA]

What is the different between artist and graphic designer group? :uhoh:

[NightWish]

Using the terms generally you could argue that there is no difference. Technically a graphic designer is an artist (in my estimation at least), but an artist doesn't need to be a graphic designer.

However, in the context of these forums, I'm assuming the later term is for those who manipulate existing works to form something new (signature creators, avatar creators, wallpaper creators, etc.) often by request, while the former is for those who create works of art, possibly fan art, with no particular purpose other than to look nice. Normally from raw materials, real or digital, such as blank page, pencil, pen, ink, etc.

[KiNA]

Ah so :) .. Another question .. why am my group title display in cyan color while Riker.. who are also in GD group, are black?

I feel *very* special non the less :D

edit : Oh shi- .. Now im no special anymore ;-;

[NightWish]

That would be because I changed the title styling a bit just before you posted. Unfortunately it isn't possible to update the setting for everyone, in one go, without heavily loading the forum... so it gets updated when you change your group settings or when you post. In the meantime there will be a little bit of inconsistency.

Edit:So black isn't a group identification color?!Nope... but I'm happy to consider other colours or styling, if all the group's members can come to a consensus about the alternative...

The "bullets" we have uploaded so far are: http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/s_bullet_red.png http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/s_bullet_green.png http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/s_bullet_orange.png http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/s_bullet_pink.png http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/s_bullet_purple.png and http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/s_bullet_blue.png obviously.

[felix]

[tr]http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.16.jpgMmm..
So black isn't a group identification color?!
Edit: Upssy.. didn't see NightWish's post..

[Deathkillz]

wow this is quite a cool idea :D nice one cats :3
(tho i do feel that im not worthy of the title yet ~ and photoshopping doesnt seem to mean graphics designer to me O.o or that could just be me...)

[kayos]

Just a passerby don't worry about my comment.

But don't you think the the group title is a bit too bright. I mean it's kind of hard to read when it's that bright. It's readable but hard, you have to actually focus. Should probably dim down the color a bit. How about a green color to match with the green box at the bottom.

[Aoie_Emesai]

The color is rather nice, nice sky blue/light blue tone ^^.

ps: You have to be a senior member to get a title, correct?

[cyth]

Well, there's also one other very distinctive breed of users on this forum that we forgot to mention: News reporters. I may have not used the best term to describe them, but there are users like eggplant, NeoSam, and others who take extensive interests in knowing and reporting first-hour anime/manga/etc. news on this forum.

[NoSanninWa]

A good point. Maybe if we can figure out what to call the categorization we might implement it.

ps: You have to be a senior member to get a title, correct?Nope. We might think about chaning that later so that a certain number of posts are necessary, but for now even a zero post member can call themselves a fansubber or artist. I'm not really sure why we'd want to change that.

[steelbound]

Just saw some people using these and thought this was a great idea.

Was thinking of a few more groups:

Image sleuth: people like Maids! Maids! Maids! who always post tons of pics
News hound: people who hunt for the breaking news
Avatar/Sig maker: as opposed to graphic designer
Banner Winner: for people who have won one of the banner contests

I think it would be cool if members of the sub groups could have their sub group listed.

For fans of a type of anime it could be " [heart] Mecha", " [heart] Slice of Life", " [heart] Sci-fi", etc.

[NoSanninWa]

We had an actual discussion of "Avatar/Sig Maker" vs "Graphic Designer" vs "Photoshopper" in this thread. Go back and read it if you want to know how "Graphic Designer" won.

News Hound: I'm not sure this is the best title for those folks, but if someone can figure out what to call them we'll probably make the group.

Image Sleuth: Interesting. I'll think about it. Can anyone come up with a better title?

[kayos]

News Hound: I'm not sure this is the best title for those folks, but if someone can figure out what to call them we'll probably make the group.


How about just "reporters," then again it seems plain, but it fits the role.

[felix]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.16.jpgHow about Community Memeber for both...
And make it something that people just can't choose, but is awarded, for those that are just exceptionally helpfull or active on the forums. What do you think..

[capture]

Image Sleuth: Interesting. I'll think about it. Can anyone come up with a better title?

How bout Image Gatherer/Image Collector :rolleyes:

[kayos]

How bout Image Gatherer/Image Collector :rolleyes:

Art Collector?

@Cats

Aren't we all community members as it is.

[xris]

Some of these suggestions are rather specialist titles and as such there wouldn't be many people who it would apply to. On the other hand, some of the suggestions are far to generic and could apply to everyone.

Something like Fansubber is the ideal middle ground since it applies to a few hundred members (I would guess). New suggestions should be aiming at a group of similar numbers (IMO more than 50, less than 500 as a rough guide).

[felix]

Looks @ Kayos...
http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.16.jpgMmm..
How about, Super Community Memeber then..
Hm.http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.03.jpgOr Uber Community Memeber..
..but some people won't understand.
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http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.00.jpgNow if I were to pick 1 for each, I'd say..
..Image Hunter ..and News Group
Mostly because it would also have to be something people will pick..
..not something that would just make others laugh.

But honestly I don't think they make much sense doe to the time factor.
They are things that are somewhat short termed. As in something you might be a part of or not be a part of a few duzen times a week.
It's like a People-That-Are-Currently-Sleeping Group.

Looks @ steelbound...
http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.03.jpgSome make wallpapers you know..
..and some may color but can't draw.. etc. etc.http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.16.jpg[td]Is it's all that important?.. mmm..
I don't think anybody would want to put that kind of sticky on their heads. Mostly because it's too general, and it's a welcome for pm requests. They're always a lil' unconfortable. Even if say you're the only avy/sig maker in a thread it's still easier (IMO) when it's a lil' public. Less personal and such..

If it really is that important to many people then there could be something like a Forum Assist Group (or.. something with a better name *lol*). Now if you're in this group and say your IT then you are also the equivalent of IT Support.. if, say, you're a Graphic Designer, then you are also the equivalent of Avy/Sig Maker and also the equivalent of Avy/Sig Maker Tutor ~sorta speak... if say, you're a Fansubber...... well you get the idea. Basicly one group fits all.

I wouldn't mind joining this group, since IMO the percentage of serious/considerate request is heigh enough. Leaving/Joing would also be suggestive as to your current status..http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.00.jpgBut this is really~ stretching the public groups idea.
Is it really that flexible to take it that far?!

[KiNA]

How bout Image Gatherer/Image Collector :rolleyes:

Image Hunters! :D ..

Collectors collects and dont share :D

We hunts.. and share our finds :D

[Aoie_Emesai]

Well, there's also one other very distinctive breed of users on this forum that we forgot to mention: News reporters. I may have not used the best term to describe them, but there are users like eggplant, NeoSam, and others who take extensive interests in knowing and reporting first-hour anime/manga/etc. news on this forum.

How about political news ^_^.

[Daniel E.]

How about Feedbackers? :p Everybody posting here could be a part of that group.

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........Ok, that was dumb, sorry :heh:

[Deathkillz]

^ no thats actually quite good...im think of the lines of series bloggers or series critics like impz and sorrowk if i had to point to a few :3

a dumb one would be stamp collectors :heh:

[wingdarkness]

OK I'm starting to see people with custom group titles and it's making me a little superficially jealous^^,...just because I don't make gifs for people or draw in my spare time doesn't mean I don't have an important role in the anime community...So I suggest that anyone should be able to join a group or none should at all IMHO...

For genre groups:

Shonen Enthusiast
Mecha
Seinen
Shojo
Ecchi^^
Harem
Romance
Comedy xD
Mystery
Loli
Moe

Obviously you add "enthusiast" after the genre

For poster groups:

Suki Critic
Suki News Contributor
Suki Debater
Suki Baka
Suki Emo
Suki Quality Control
Suki Sleuth
Suki Intellectual
Suki Image Grabber (Or "Obtainer" or "Collector"--per NSW's asking)
Suki n00bie
Suki troll (In the "I'm here all the tiime" sense^^)

noobs with less than 150 or 200 posts can only choose genre groups...

People with like 1,000 - 3,000 post can have:

1,000-3000:

Suki Soul Controller
Suki Grandmaster
Suki Shinigami
Suki PostMaster

3000 and beyond:

Suki Enlightened
Suki Pure Blood
Suki Ancient

5000 and beyond:

Suki Infinite Untouchable
Suki Golden Gatekeeper
Suki God or Goddess
Suki Royal Sage

Anyone who thinks they can add something better to the 1000 and beyond groups go right ahead...I hope my efforts in carefully thinking this out doesn't get completley rejected and scoffed at, thanks...

[Zu Ra]

Image Sleuth: Interesting. I'll think about it. Can anyone come up with a better title?

I don’t know whether this term sounds cool or not but the right term for that would be Fan-Art Hunter. The term Fan-Art Hunter and Fan-Art Hunting has been in the net lingo for quite some time.

Art Collector

Art Collector sounds cool it ambiguous it can also mean Fan-Art Hunter. Its also great pun as the correct meaning differs.

[SeijiSensei]

How come all the groups other than "IT Support" refer to a type of person ("graphics designer", etc.)? If we're going to have an IT group, then I'd prefer to be known as an "IT Guru" or perhaps an "IT Ninja". The current name conjures up a type of men's athletic wardrobe.

Image sleuth: people like Maids! Maids! Maids! who always post tons of pics
How about "Bandwidth Slayers?"

(That's a joke, folks. I usually enjoy browsing postings by Maids!^3.)

[Jinto]

I take "normal people" :D

[Aoie_Emesai]

noobs with less than 150 or 200 posts can only choose genre groups...

People with like 1,000 - 3,000 post can have:

1,000-3000:

Suki Soul Controller
Suki Grandmaster
Suki Shinigami
Suki PostMaster

3000 and beyond:

Suki Enlightened
Suki Pure Blood
Suki Ancient

5000 and beyond:

Suki Infinite Untouchable
Suki Golden Gatekeeper
Suki God or Goddess
Suki Royal Sage



I don't think we should use post amounts for this. This may induce spamming on a larger scale, just for a title. Post counts don't really tell what a user is capable of, so I think we shouldn't use it.

This may be over kill but how about custom titles ^_^.

[The Small One]

noobs with less than 150 or 200 posts can only choose genre groups...

People with like 1,000 - 3,000 post can have:

I can't really see the criteria to distinguish between those groups. Actually it looks more like a suggestion for User Titles (which are free to choose anyways).

I think we should stay with useful suggestions.
This shouldn't become some way to adulate the own ego, but instead provide a bit of useful information for the other users.


BTW, whats with my staff-suggestions? Where they discarded, or are those non-public usergroups and are just not visible?

[wingdarkness]

(In regards to post amounts) I'm not necessarily sold on that, just brain-storming I guess...But I do think (like the rep-point scale) you should reach a certain benchmark before you can get some of the higher titles...Just like n00bz can't rep until they hit 100 posts...Additionally if someone spams to get from 100 to 3000, dammit they might just deserve the title xD...

Obviously this is just an idea for the admins and mods..I don't expect it to be just implmented, but I kinda like some of my suggestions...Does anyone else?


@ small one - P.S. don't confuse creativity and wordplay for ego-adulation..Some of us are creatures of creativity who color outside the lines...You're just more conservative than me if you don't find my suggestions useful...

[Potatochobit]

I want to be vice president of the lolitron group :( j/k

but this thread has alot of fun ideas

[Aoie_Emesai]

I want to be vice president of the lolitron group :( j/k

but this thread has alot of fun ideas

They're mostly titles, not groups Pchobits :heh:

[NoSanninWa]

I want to be vice president of the lolitron group :( j/kI can't even imagine the flamewars if we had a lolitron group.

* NoSanninWa shudders in horror at the thought.

[KiNA]

*IF* you do, please consider BB group as well for us Rangiku and Tsunade's fan :D

j/k >.<

:heh:

[The Small One]

(@ small one - P.S. don't confuse creativity and wordplay for ego-adulation..Some of us are creatures of creativity who color outside the lines...You're just more conservative than me if you don't find my suggestions useful...

I don't think this has anything to do with creativity.

So maybe you can explain me the usefullness of your concept. What does a newbie gain by seeing, that someone he's talking with is member of one of these groups?:confused:

[wingdarkness]

^Ignoring the 1000 plus groups for a minute that are elite types for members who are really the heart of this website, the "enthusiast" groups are simply genre groups for members who have no distinct occupation...What do you think every 15 year old that logs on is actually somebody? Half the people picking Graphic Designer or Artist don't have a paycheck with that on it, they are just good with Adobe Illustrator...They're all titles with the purpose of creating cliques--that's what user groups are anyways (Even when they technically are these people)...My suggestions just injected a little style into the equation...If someone has a distinct title that helps a member fine, if it encourges a member to ask questions to someone who loves a certain genre that's fine too (It's not like they can do that now right?)...The 1000plus groups are more based on my own creativity as a member (As an english student and journalist I love coming up with colorful phrases and descriptions)...Hell you can't even get into those groups for a long a$$ time anyways, but ultimatley I think some (not all) of my suggestions make sense for people who aren't specifically part of the IT or fansubbing fraternity...Otherwise people who want to be in a user-group will stretch the validty of their ability just to be in one they don't really belong...

[Jinto]

Anyway awarding post counts is the last thing the mods/admins want in these forums. Thats also the reason why post counts are not shown in the avatar area. There is no need to support spamming behavior.

[felix]

WingD"^Ignoring the 1000 plus groups for a minute that are elite types for members who are really the heart of this website [1], the "enthusiast" groups are simply genre groups for members who have no distinct occupation...What do you think every 15 year old that logs on is actually somebody? Half the people picking Graphic Designer or Artist don't have a paycheck with that on it [2], they are just good with Adobe Illustrator...They're all titles with the purpose of creating cliques--that's what user groups are anyways (Even when they technically are these people)...My suggestions just injected a little style into the equation...If someone has a distinct title that helps a member fine, if it encourges a member to ask questions to someone who loves a certain genre that's fine too (It's not like they can do that now right? [3])...The 1000plus groups are more based on my own creativity as a member (As an english student and journalist I love coming up with colorful phrases and descriptions [4])...Hell you can't even get into those groups for a long a$$ time anyways, but ultimatley I think some (not all) of my suggestions make sense for people who aren't specifically part of the IT or fansubbing fraternity...Otherwise people who want to be in a user-group will stretch the validty of their ability just to be in one [5] they don't really belong..."~~~~~~~~~~http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.15.jpg[2] I think I'm one of the few people here that actually picked the group Artist because of my pation for painting real life scenes rather then drawing anime characters etc. (I've actually made very very few anime drawings) And yes I have had checks and also awards in several contests and also, what could be considered jobs, to back it up. So what of it, I've never sold any of my best works, I'm not that noble or ignorant that I don't need the money or can live in total disgust with only the sanctuary of my mind, but the thought of selling some of them to just be used instead of paint on someone's wall is unthinkable.

You seem to think that the groups are some kind of.. umm.. public show-off contest. If I were really to pick base on profession then IT would be on top of my list. It's also something that's taking the majority of my time and that I discuss most in real life. But do you see it on my join list~ Hmm...
Well, why is that do you think?.. just so know, it is what has got the check factor right now.


http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.07.jpgThe answer is simple, I like it as job, but rarely is it work of love. I care not if people join one of the groups I've joined here with little to no experience, just the thought that they had that little interest brings some warmth and puts a smile on my face. The thought that there are other people that care for some of the things I care about... or things that are similar to things I'm passionate about.





http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.06.jpg[1] Ever since I suggested something similar to your idea, a while back, for the same purpose of encompassing the majority, I've been thinking it over. Honestly, the more I think of it the more stupid and idiotic does it seem. The best comparison I can think of would be with political parties. Basically they accomplish little to nothing but create quarrels. At worst we might see forum marshes pilling up to back some idiotic opinion in unintentional spam/flame/troll wars.

No matter which way you look at it they are not truly.. NEUTRAL.. thus they are Factions not Groups. Do we need forum gangs of bullies, self-proclaimed emotional or rough people etc causing unnecessary or pointless commotion, I think NOT.http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.11.jpg[3] Hmm..
Sorry, don't really have the answer to that one.
Maybe you should ask it in the Suggestions (http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15) forum.


http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.04.jpg[4] Wow really?!.. me too.
I really enjoying picking on you and twisting your words into immature and unnecessary sarcasm.
I sooo *lol*-ed while purposely making you look like a idiot. I'm sure you were enjoying it too.. Yup.

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.00.jpgMy apologies for bulling you these past lines ([3] & [4]) but I hope you understand the point I'm trying to make. Your fun is not necessarily my fun. Just maybe I won't really appreciate to be automatically called some of those names. Just because I'm an anime fan doesn't mean I'm automatically immature and/or live in my own fantasy world.
http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.16.jpg[5] That's not really a problem.. let them. They can't do any harm with the current ones, since there is nothing they can get dangerously fanatical about. At worst they'll just cause some amusing situations or express some interesting opinions. No harm there.. Nee~

[wingdarkness]

@Cats (Are you Catgirls?) LOL..They're just suggestions...If my point didn't specifically speak to you why the mammoth post? (With an expressive face for each point xD) Obviously I'm not talking to you, but you're a bit naive if you think the hordes of college students and teenagers who post on bulletin boards are actually pay-check professionals in the area they base their net-life around (Not that they aren't serious or good at what they do--which garners my respect)...I imagine the Banana Republic employs as many graphic designers as ITT TECH... Hell I'm an artist, not in the illustrative sense but my hobby is creative writing (My suggestions post being an actual derivitive of that)...

My apologies for bulling you these past lines
You obviously don't know me too well, if you think that was truley bulling me... You need to read most of my debates in the Gundam Forum to get a sense of what bulling me is^^...

Your fun is not necessarily my fun

Exactly, which is why those with conservative values as it pertains to my suggestions don't have to agree with them...It's funny how anything I say is suddenly an issue...I honestly posted them with a creative output an optimism..At the very least I thought some people would enjoy reading them, but again I'm just a member making a suggestion which will always be at the whim of the mods and admins who make the final law...I'm sorry if you were offended, but if you were it points to something deeper than this thread was ever created to examine...

[felix]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.02.jpgMammoth post?!.. What?! that lil' thing!.. *lol* xD
I wasn't offended silly.. Sorry I have a notorius habit to "color my posts too deep".
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BTW, No, I'm not Catgirls.

[Aoie_Emesai]

@Cats (Are you Catgirls?)

hehehe, that can be so possible ^_^. But that's not so. Cats and Catgirls both post during the same time with different opinions at time.

Half the people picking Graphic Designer or Artist don't have a paycheck with that on it, they are just good with Adobe Illustrator...They're all titles with the purpose of creating cliques

Having them there with the limited availability of user groups to choose from, I chose what represented me the best. I never really had the interest in artistic painting/art but I don't qualify myself in neither of the other 4, and i'm quite bad at graphic art.

Ignoring the 1000 plus groups for a minute that are elite types for members who are really the heart of this website, the "enthusiast" groups are simply genre groups for members who have no distinct occupation

From what you explained there, it's understandable. Like Neosam who is usually one of AS best informant. Sushi_Y, is rather helpful too.

[Potatochobit]

I can understand the downside to having free groups roaming around, but technically they are already permitted as club threads. being able to invite someone to a specific group does sound fun, but it could easily be abused. People can already change their title to whatever they want so there really is no need to form private groups.

yeah, cats and catgirls have already merged into one sentient being in my mind
their styles and tastes are similar it makes me go :eyespin:

[mantidor]

oooh, I remembered a long time ago I asked a mod about this, and his response was that it would not happen, I'm glad you guys finally got around it ^^, even though sadly I'm nowhere near the anime fanboy I used to be, but the forums are so huge that they are a little discouraging when I want to find some new series to watch, groups might help in that regard.

[felix]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.00.jpgWow.. Nice job with the Staff and Moderator additions NightWish.. those were really needed.
Nobody could really tell that the Boldness of ones name meant Moderator/Admin.

BTW does site staff mean your an editor for the main site, like xris for example. Or is it just a general term?

[GHDpro]

BTW does site staff mean your an editor for the main site, like xris for example. Or is it just a general term?
AnimeSuki Site Staff are people who can edit the main site and add new links etc. Most of us are also moderators on the forum, except for warnold.

[NoSanninWa]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.00.jpgWow.. Nice job with the Staff and Moderator additions NightWish.. those were really needed.
Nobody could really tell that the Boldness of ones name meant Moderator/Admin.Actually I made these additions myself since I also felt the necessity. (It wasn't particularly hard since I could copy a lot of what NightWish did with the other group tags.) It caused a certain amount of confusion. We decided it wasn't necessary to distinguish between admin/mod/super mod since that isn't really important so we are all simply called http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/s_bullet_red.png Moderator. You'll still have to distinguish between italic, boldface, and italic boldface if you want to unravel that, but mostly there isn't much reason to care.

BTW does site staff mean your an editor for the main site, like xris for example. Or is it just a general term?Yep, that is exactly what http://forums.animesuki.com/images/as.global/s_bullet_purple.png AnimeSuki Site Staff means.

[NightWish]

Wow.. Nice job with the Staff and Moderator additions NightWish.. those were really needed.Sometimes I wonder if you are being sarcastic. This is one of those times. In any case, praise or scorn, please get the attribution correct. NoSanninWa created the lovely new staff related badges.

@TheSmallOne: We've (I've) not overlooked your request, it just isn't at the top of the list. Sorry, that is just the way it goes when you're one voice in the crowd.

Edit: Oh I see NSW was too quick for me.

[Thany]

Sometimes I wonder if you are being sarcastic. This is one of those times. In any case, praise or scorn, please get the attribution correct. NoSanninWa created the lovely new staff related badges.

Well IMO it's just for the look, but it still can be helpful for peoples who are really new and do not know that bolded names are usually moderators :uhoh:
It's kind of neat though^^

[felix]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/ElementB.jpgReads Wish's post..
Took me a minute to figure out what you mean by sarcastic. *laughs out loud*
I guess this kind of posting behaviour of mine is just deaply routed in my psyky, and it comes out a little sarcastic etc. weather or not I'm aware of it.

Reads NoSanyWa's post...
Good call on the no distinction thing. I think you got the ideal solution, minimizing confusion.
Well I guess it's a Thanks You NoSanninWa & NightWish then. ^__^

Reads GHD's post..
Is anime_layer still on the team?..

[NoSanninWa]

Reads GHD's post..
Is anime_layer still on the team?..
Take a look for yourself: anime_layer (http://forums.animesuki.com/member.php?do=getinfo&u=1213). (Look at the upper right.)
Though perhaps you were asking rhetorically to point out that warnold isn't the only one.

[GHDpro]

Reads GHD's post..
Is anime_layer still on the team?..
Your right. But he hasn't really been active lately. His last forum post was from last July, and his last login into the site control panel was May last year.

[felix]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.16.jpgIt says in his profile Last Activity: Yesterday 17:37
But I guess that only counts as lurking..
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In all honesty, I wasn't tring to point out anything, I just didn't see the AnimeSuki Site Staff in his profile.
But this is getting sooo off-topic..

[The Small One]

Most of us are also moderators on the forum, except for warnold.

:confused: How comes this?

Is it, because only the persons who were already moderators were interessted in also helping with the main site, or is it the other way 'round and someone who becomes a main-site staff automatically gets the offer to become a moderator? (Which would be dubious)

[GHDpro]

Is it, because only the persons who were already moderators were interessted in also helping with the main site, or is it the other way 'round and someone who becomes a main-site staff automatically gets the offer to become a moderator? (Which would be dubious)
It's basically due to if someone is active both on the site and forum. warnold for example does not appear to take much interest in the forum [anymore] (at least not in posting actively), but he does still help out with the site.

There haven't been any additions to the site staff in ages btw, and I can't recall how things have grown the way they are now. I can only recall that it took some time before JAF was made a moderator on the forum after being made site staff. Other than that... maybe xris and NightWish remember better.

Essentially the same principlpes apply to site staff and moderators though: anyone "hired" was so because I/we felt he was trustworthy and reliable enough to handle the job. So it is only natural that if one becomes either a good site staff or moderator that one is allowed to do the other as well.

[xris]

:confused: How comes this?

Is it, because only the persons who were already moderators were interessted in also helping with the main site, or is it the other way 'round and someone who becomes a main-site staff automatically gets the offer to become a moderator? (Which would be dubious)
There are many, many reasons, you seem to be trying to make it into a simple yes/no situation which just isn't the case. And to be honest, the selection (who and why) has nothing to do with you and I don't see why we need to be answerable for this.

[Aoie_Emesai]

Well IMO it's just for the look, but it still can be helpful for peoples who are really new and do not know that bolded names are usually moderators :uhoh:
It's kind of neat though^^

True, I almost find it hard to distinguish b/t mods and non. This will make it easier.

[The Small One]

Essentially the same principlpes apply to site staff and moderators though: anyone "hired" was so because I/we felt he was trustworthy and reliable enough to handle the job. So it is only natural that if one becomes either a good site staff or moderator that one is allowed to do the other as well.

But "the job" are (at least) two completely different things. Basically the main site has nearly nothing to do with the forum, except of the same overall topic (anime), and seemingly the staff.
Personally I don't really see why a person who is good in keeping an eye on fansubs, should also be qualified in keeping the forum in order (or vice versa). Since the later has much more to do with social skills, while the former doesn't seem to require them at all.

And to be honest, the selection (who and why) has nothing to do with you and I don't see why we need to be answerable for this.

I don't really want you to be answerable to me (or anyone else for that matter). I asked just because I wondered why. Especially since I personally don't understand how the skills for this two tasks relate to each other.

If I trod on someones toes by asking, I apologise.:bow:

[GHDpro]

Personally I don't really see why a person who is good in keeping an eye on fansubs, should also be qualified in keeping the forum in order (or vice versa). Since the later has much more to do with social skills, while the former doesn't seem to require them at all.
It isn't an automatic process. If some site staff in the past had wanted to be come a forum moderator and the existing moderators (including me) at the time had opposed that idea, we would not have allowed it. We do properly discuss who gets to become a forum moderator: we don't just make people moderators without giving some thought about whether they're fit for the job.

But like I said, it's been years and years since any new site staff was added, so there are only a handful of people who may have started out as site staff initially and also became a forum moderator. So it's really a mute point.

[felix]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.00.jpgReads TSO's posts..
I like how your missing one important thing. The staff may choose, but the chosen is the one at the end of the day that makes the decition. I would imagine someone that has helped as Site Staff to have serious motives if she/he wishes or accepts to be a moderator. Not just like the average joe who is ready to voe eternel free 12 hour days of labor, digging thru' everyone's crap and taking every loalife's curses.

Same would go for the other way round: Moderator to Site Staff. I would imagine since people like Eks are refrenced to as "editors" there's more to it then just take torrent submission, add it to the main site.

Even though I'm sure the staff have had 0 refusals when recruiting new helping-memebers thus far, it's foolish to imagine everybody is a "wannabe-mod". Not only this, but consider some of our beloved staff have either slowly or abruptly left us, so it's not really anything super special or attractive to be a member of staff, at least, not in the long run.

[Shay]

I demand a "Resident Alcoholic" tag. Yes that's right, I demanded...

BTW. I like Wing-san's suggestion of some sort of genre tag, but I suppose that is just the same as a user title really.


Maybe a "helper" tag would be good. Ya know, for those people like Catgirls who just love to go above and beyond the call of duty just to make peoples lives that little bit easier. This applies in more ways than one I might add.

[RedFrame]

How about adding a new option on membership search function, like searching member by its group ?

[NoSanninWa]

Maybe a "helper" tag would be good. Ya know, for those people like Catgirls who just love to go above and beyond the call of duty just to make peoples lives that little bit easier. This applies in more ways than one I might add.
Actually, IT Support and Graphic Designer already fulfill most of that goal. Can you think of other ways that some members work to help others?

[White Manju Bun]

Just passing through, started seeing all the colored tags on the forum and wanted to find out where they came from :heh:

I saw a few pages back that there was an "image collector" suggustion, I dont remember from who but I saw that NSW and Geta commented on it. Is this still in the works? I know NSW was asking for a better title. "Anime Image collector" is what I usually define myself as :D

Btw I think this idea is cool :D

[NoSanninWa]

At this time we feel the number of people who would identify as "Image Collector" is too low to justify the group so we're not likely to add it, but the idea isn't completely dead. There are certainly a few people (like yourself) who would identify themselves that way.

The reason I wouldn't categorize it as completely dead is because like Fansubber, IT Support and Graphic Designer; Image Collectors provide a service to the forum community. That does give it some value despite identifying a rather small group.

[Sazelyt]

Just wondering, is there an animesuki site staff, that is not a moderator?

Bold/Italic usernames (I guess the italic refers to also the site staff) + animesuki site staff + moderator looks a bit overload, as if I am looking at a war hero general with countless medals. I think just an admin would suffice. And, the way those titles written makes the mod-title look similar to a regular title anyone can use.

[NoSanninWa]

Just wondering, is there an animesuki site staff, that is not a moderator?

Bold/Italic usernames (I guess the italic refers to also the site staff) + animesuki site staff + moderator looks a bit overload, as if I am looking at a war hero general with countless medals. I think just an admin would suffice. And, the way those titles written makes the mod-title look similar to a regular title anyone can use.
There are two people on this forum who are Site Staff, but not a moderators. (And once in the past there was a third, but he became a moderator so we're back down to two.) Boldfaced names are moderators. Boldfaced and Italicized names are administrators.

And how does Moderator look like a title that anyone can use? It is in red and below the usual title. And it has that neato red bulletin point!

[Sazelyt]

Boldfaced names are moderators. Boldfaced and Italicized names are administrators.Yes, I am aware of that. That is why I mention it as a bit overload (triple-attack - kind of). When I look at that, I can read mod three times. (I don't know if there is an active staff that posts here often, so, the ones I am seeing are also mod)
And how does Moderator look like a title that anyone can use? It is in red and below the usual title. And it has that neato red bulletin point!The styles are similar. Yes, the color is different than, for instance, artist's, but, still it is written like the artist. I guess, an image instead of that title would have done the job. Or, if the title is going to stay, something more differentiating might have felt better (another location for instance). Anyway, I seem to enter the personal view area, based on my impressions here. I guess, turning the eyes a little right to avoid the flashing effect might suffice for me.

[White Manju Bun]

At this time we feel the number of people who would identify as "Image Collector" is too low to justify the group so we're not likely to add it, but the idea isn't completely dead. There are certainly a few people (like yourself) who would identify themselves that way.

The reason I wouldn't categorize it as completely dead is because like Fansubber, IT Support and Graphic Designer; Image Collectors provide a service to the forum community. That does give it some value despite identifying a rather small group.

Ah gotcha, that makes sense, thanks for answering my question :)

[warnold]

Just wondering, is there an animesuki site staff, that is not a moderator?

Yep. Me for one.

And to answer the previous question of why I'm not a moderator:
1) I don't want to be
2) I don't have enough free time to do the job to the standard I require of myself.
3) I haven't asked to be made one.

Are all good reasons why I'm not one.

--
-billy-

[ArchMageZeratuL]

Hey,

I believe that a "programmer" or maybe "tool programmer" group would be a nice addition - although there are not so many of us, I believe that we do play a major role in the community. ;)

This title would be the most appropriate for people like me, jfs (Aegisub programmers), RaistlinMajere (SSATool/Aegisub programmer), Draders (Karaoke Maker programmer), Myrsloik (CCCP installer/Yatta programmer), kryptolus (Sabbu programmer, although he is MIA), and everyone else who dedicates their time by contributing to the community from the most fundamental level.

Sorry if I've missed anyone important from my list above!

Hope that his suggestion will be considered,
- AMZ

[Ledgem]

I believe that a "programmer" or maybe "tool programmer" group would be a nice addition - although there are not so many of us, I believe that we do play a major role in the community. ;)
I support that statement.

(side observation, Warnold and AMZ haven't changed their avatars since they registered)

[NoSanninWa]

Hey,

I believe that a "programmer" or maybe "tool programmer" group would be a nice addition - although there are not so many of us, I believe that we do play a major role in the community. ;)

This title would be the most appropriate for people like me, jfs (Aegisub programmers), RaistlinMajere (SSATool/Aegisub programmer), Draders (Karaoke Maker programmer), Myrsloik (CCCP installer/Yatta programmer), kryptolus (Sabbu programmer, although he is MIA), and everyone else who dedicates their time by contributing to the community from the most fundamental level.

Sorry if I've missed anyone important from my list above!

Hope that his suggestion will be considered,
- AMZ
Are you sure you aren't actually a subset of fansubber? We don't have separate a category for encoder either although I can see why they might want their own.

[ArchMageZeratuL]

Are you sure you aren't actually a subset of fansubber? We don't have separate a category for encoder either although I can see why they might want their own.

No, there's a very clear distinction, in my view - an encoder is just one of the many steps of producing a fansub release. A programmer, on the other hand, writes tools with the goal of helping that process, but not for a specific release or group, and, indeed, maybe not even exclusively for anime. Many tool programmers aren't even fansubbers (e.g. kryptolus, and I've done very little work for actual fansubbing groups). Our goal is not to create fansubs; it is to create that which you use to produce those.

By this reasoning, encoders, karaokers, translators, typesetters, editors, timers and quality checkers are all fansubers, but you might wonder whether distro are or not... but that's probably beyond the point. :)

[Jinto]

No, there's a very clear distinction, in my view - an encoder is just one of the many steps of producing a fansub release. A programmer, on the other hand, writes tools with the goal of helping that process, but not for a specific release or group, and, indeed, maybe not even exclusively for anime. Many tool programmers aren't even fansubbers (e.g. kryptolus, and I've done very little work for actual fansubbing groups). Our goal is not to create fansubs; it is to create that which you use to produce those.

By this reasoning, encoders, karaokers, translators, typesetters, editors, timers and quality checkers are all fansubers, but you might wonder whether distro are or not... but that's probably beyond the point. :)

Yes I think so too, thats beyond the point. Why can't you use this "IT Support" group?
Considering what NSW said about group sizes and the like... if he was for the tool programmer group, he certainly would not have a vaild argument against all these other mini groups as well. With the same argument all the karaoke competition people could demand their own karaoke singer group. (I have this feeling in that special case, the group name is just something to boost the own ego, not something that really helps others). I doubt you'll offer to program other tools on request or something like that... (on the other side, people who use your tools certainly know who you are and what you do anyway).

[kayos]

Just wondering since there's now public groups why not have competition (artists, graphic designs etc...) within each groups. I would like to see the abilities of each members, just for fun you know. Someone should start taking charge of their groups and start having some fun.

(I can't decide who to sign up with)

Oh another thing, is there anyway to see who's in what groups besides looking at their title. I meant like a list of group members and body counts.

[felix]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.00.jpgKayos, you do know that you can sign up for more then one group?..
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BTW, concerning one of your questions,
You can go to their user page.

[Aoie_Emesai]

Cats - Even though you're signed up for more than one group only one is displayed anyway correct?

[felix]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.02.jpgNo, actually, the one you choose to be identified as is displayed, if you're not a memeber of any group you only have one choise, and thus this is not displayed, when you join one group you will have an extra choise, so now you can chouse to be identified either as normal memeber or a memeber of the new group you just joined..

Joining other groups just adds to your choises.
They are also, all visible in your User Page. (the groups you joined that is)

[Shay]

Raw Provider?
Scanslator?

Or are they frowned upon?

Is this any different from the existing Scanlator user group we already have ;)


Oh, must have missed that one. :p

[xris]

Scanslator?
Is this any different from the existing Scanlator user group we already have ;)

[NightWish]

Someone should start taking charge of their groupsWe currently have no plans to enable leadership of the new public groups. Until we do I would discourage people from starting a vie for power.Oh another thing, is there anyway to see who's in what groups besides looking at their title. I meant like a list of group members and body counts.As Cats said, you can look at a member's profile page to see which groups they are in. For an over-view of the group membership, I've added a Groups Membership Statistics (http://forums.animesuki.com/memberlist.php?do=groupcount) page.Raw Provider?I am going to say no and I'm pretty sure the other staff will agree with me. I believe such a group that would encourage people to use ask those people for raws. This is not something we want to do.

[kayos]

We currently have no plans to enable leadership of the new public groups. Until we do I would discourage people from starting a vie for power.

It was actually just an open comment for someone within their group to plan an event, wasn't asking for ranks within the group. Then again it does sound like it would take someone to lead.

[NightWish]

It was actually just an open comment for someone within their group to plan an eventOhh... I see, that's fine then :heh:

Not sure how it would work for all the groups though. I can understand it working for "Artist" and "Graphic Designer", but what sort of contest could the other groups run? I'd actually like to see if they can up with something because I can't imagine a contest that would work for fansubbing or scanlation, let alone IT Support :)

[Aoie_Emesai]

http://xs314.xs.to/xs314/07160/Element.02.jpgNo, actually, the one you choose to be identified as is displayed, if you're not a memeber of any group you only have one choise, and thus this is not displayed, when you join one group you will have an extra choise, so now you can chouse to be identified either as normal memeber or a memeber of the new group you just joined..

Joining other groups just adds to your choises.
They are also, all visible in your User Page. (the groups you joined that is)

Well either way, i would still choose artist ^_^

[digiboy123]

Hrm... where do I sign up for the public groups? ;P (Just noticed people sporting them around.)

Place me under Fansubber, please, if this is the place to ask.

[Daniel E.]

Hrm... where do I sign up for the public groups? ;P (Just noticed people sporting them around.)

Place me under Fansubber, please, if this is the place to ask.

Go to: User CP -> then under Miscellaneous click on Group Memberships and select the group(s) of your choice.

[digiboy123]

Thanks for the help. =)

[Kaede Chan]

I apologize if this is a common known fact, or has been previously answered (which I'm sure it has been, I just wouldn't know where to look) but I'm fairly knew here and don't know much about the site.

I've seen different tags under different members' names (excluding the "moderator tag"). Some of which are things like "artists" and "graphic designers". Could someone please explain the significance of these tags, and/or how to obtain them?

Thanks so much for all of your help,
Kaede Chan =^^=

[felix]

You mean the Groups (http://forums.animesuki.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups)

Topic: New "Public Groups" on AnimeSuki?

[Kaede Chan]

Ah, thanks for that. I understand now. =^^=

[innominate]

For an over-view of the group membership, I've added a Groups Membership Statistics (http://forums.animesuki.com/memberlist.php?do=groupcount) page.

Would it be possible/feasible to list the members in each group? Similar to the way moderators and staff are listed. Hmm, not sure if it's a good idea though, but I can't think of any counter reason for the moment. =X

[Fang-tan]

Can you join a group or be invited?

[Furuno]

Yes you can join. check your user cp and click on group memberships.

[Sazelyt]

Don't know if that was previously mentioned, wouldn't it be better to "forcibly" include the additional information a group requires?

I see many fansubbers around, but for many of them, I don't even know which group they are part of or whether they are fake or not. Some include the information on their groups in their profiles, for others that is not the case, and it is hard to search for thousands of posts to find the group they belong to, and that is if they ever mentioned anything on that.

I am not asking for creating subgroups, rather, in the profile, make the fansubber, select a group name if they want to use the group name 'fansubber', and show this information in their profile. You can even limit the selection of fansubbers to a specific subset (something like selecting from a scroll-down list), and something like, a group as recognized by Animesuki.

And, that system can also be used by some of the other groups (for instance IT-support). And, I believe, that kind of additional information would make the use of such titles as something worthful.

[TakutoKun]

Yes you can join. check your user cp and click on group memberships.
I never actually looked that far into it. Great answer. :)

@Sazelyt: What can the IT Support group provide as additional information?

[Sazelyt]

@Sazelyt: What can the IT Support group provide as additional information?Operating system, programming, networking, multimedia support (i.e., video/audio coding), etc. (Basically the types that are expected to require the help the most)

[TakutoKun]

Operating system, programming, networking, multimedia support (i.e., video/audio coding), etc. (Basically the types that are expected to require the help the most)

I see... That would be specifying too much. Most of the "Fansubbers" have a significant background in Multimedia Support - as they do it all of the time.

[Hotaru Suzume]

What exactly does the Artist group pertain to? In other words, I'm looking for a description of the group.

Hope this isn't in the wrong thread like my previous question in this forum...

[Radiosity]

Technically it should be people who do their own artworks, rather than graphics designers who tend to work with other people's work to create wallpapers and such. That's generally how I see it anyway.

[Hotaru Suzume]

Righto, assuming this is correct, I have reason to join the group.

[NoSanninWa]

The Artist group is for anyone who feels that being an artist is part of their identity and wants others to know this fact. Your user title leads me to believe that it does indeed pertain to yourself.

[Hotaru Suzume]

Ah I see, thanks.

[mickal555]

Don't know if that was previously mentioned, wouldn't it be better to "forcibly" include the additional information a group requires?

I see many fansubbers around, but for many of them, I don't even know which group they are part of or whether they are fake or not. Some include the information on their groups in their profiles, for others that is not the case, and it is hard to search for thousands of posts to find the group they belong to, and that is if they ever mentioned anything on that.

I am not asking for creating subgroups, rather, in the profile, make the fansubber, select a group name if they want to use the group name 'fansubber', and show this information in their profile. You can even limit the selection of fansubbers to a specific subset (something like selecting from a scroll-down list), and something like, a group as recognized by Animesuki.

And, that system can also be used by some of the other groups (for instance IT-support). And, I believe, that kind of additional information would make the use of such titles as something worthful.

Sounds good to me... Maybe make it so it doesn't show up where your avvy is, but somwhere in your profile.