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The following is based on [a.f.k.]'s fansub.
Random Thoughts on Ep02:
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Lots of choice Kagami moments. She is the "straight man" in this comedy routine, and her punchlines are often a killer. :) Best one in this episode was probably, "That's just wrong" after seeing Konata's test result. :heh:
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When that man skulked away from the girls in the arcade, the following phrase came to mind.
"A Man's Pride" :heh:
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The part about "May Sickness" flew over my head. I understood what they were saying, but it wasn't clicking with me. Oh well, hit and miss as they say.
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I can relate with the dentist discussion as my visits to the dentist are never happy ones. :heh: The drill is bad enough, but when the pick comes out... hoo boy.
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Points for self-referential humour with regards to the issue of the cast-change between the Drama CD and the anime.
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Despite "winning" the face-staring contest, the joke ended up being on Konata. :p
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Envy in the Lucky Channel. :p I also wonder whether they are trying to make a point out of the exploitation of children in idol contests. It's unnerving to see people using their children to gain fame when those kids barely just started walking.
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Best part of Lucky Channel has to be, "What was that?" Even taken out of context, it is still funny due to the efforts of the VA and the animation used to convey the scene.
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What was up with the deep voice in the preview?
Cheers.
You know.. I still wanted to see that "winning" face =_=
MakubeX2
2007-04-20, 08:03
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The part about "May Sickness" flew over my head. I understood what they were saying, but it wasn't clicking with me. Oh well, hit and miss as they say.
May Sickness is perhaps more familiar to the people in countries which experience the Seasons.
When May starts, it's late spring or early Summer. During that period, people usually feel too lethargic to do anything. So when Nanako heard this, she associate Konata feeling lazy due to late night gaming sessions and not willing to attend school.
JediNight
2007-04-20, 08:04
I don't understand why people hate the dentist. The more often you go, the less you have to worry about. It's when you fret over it and put it off for 3 years, that you have to worry then.
I get a dental cleaning every 6 months, and I've had 1 filling my entire life. And that was like a tiny bit of the tooth that they were done with in like 5mins flat.
I only brush my teeth like once a day or every other day, but I find more important than that is just generally keeping junk out of your teeth immediately after eating. Or using your tongue to keep the soda off your teeth after drinking it.
....and that concludes my random dental tirade ;)
Oh, and I also want to know what's Stratos' secret in translating the murmurings of Konata. Cripes man, even when I crank up the volume to near-jackhammer levels, I can barely make sense of what she is whispering under her breath.
i.e.
1) When is talking to herself during her MMORPG session
2) When she made a sly remark towards Kagami at the UFO Catcher
Hmm...
JediNight
2007-04-20, 08:23
Stratos has made the same mumbling remarks when he plays MMOs? ;D
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-04-20, 09:03
Stratos has made the same mumbling remarks when he plays MMOs? ;D
"Found a loincloth!":eyespin: :heh:
Ah... Brings back memories of Diablo II. "String of Ears" anyone?:eyespin:
Sometimes the best items have the silliest names or design.
Found some info about the Koi no Apron show which Kagami mentioned in ep 2. Apparently it is a real show on Japanese TV, though it only exists as two special shows for the Ai no Apron format of TV reality cooking contest, which mainly pits female celebrities/idols against each other individually or in groups with the task of completing a given menu and have the dish tasted by the judges.
Haven't seen the show myself, though I did found some clips on Youtube. The novelty is that not all of the celebrities invited are apt cooks, especially the younger ones. Imagine them wrecking havoc in the kitchen and later have their "masterpiece" judged and getting punished for making poison, I guess that's one of the selling point of the show. :heh:
The thing I don't understand is why was it referenced in Lucky Star? And why specifically Koi no Apron and not Ai no Apron? Something to do with the guy who balanced a red wash basin on his head?
What was up with the deep voice in the preview?
My kingdom for an answer! :p
I've been wondering this myself; perhaps the next preview may provide more clues about the "pattern".
Found some info about the Koi no Apron show which Kagami mentioned in ep 2. Apparently it is a real show on Japanese TV, though it only exists as two special shows for the Ai no Apron format of TV reality cooking contest, which mainly pits female celebrities/idols against each other individually or in groups with the task of completing a given menu and have the dish tasted by the judges.
Haven't seen the show myself, though I did found some clips on Youtube. The novelty is that not all of the celebrities invited are apt cooks, especially the younger ones. Imagine them wrecking havoc in the kitchen and later have their "masterpiece" judged and getting punished for making poison, I guess that's one of the selling point of the show. :heh:
The thing I don't understand is why was it referenced in Lucky Star? And why specifically Koi no Apron and not Ai no Apron? Something to do with the guy who balanced a red wash basin on his head?
Was one of the seiyuu on Koi no Apron?
Hoshi_Kawa
2007-04-20, 10:18
LOL, this ep made me cry when I heard and saw things lol
6:56 mark with they were at the arcade and had part of the haruhi ending
17:04 scene, Sia from Shuffle! lol :eyespin:
and whats the anime/manga that was on the manga that Konata was reading?
I'm wondering if they are referring to the manga for some of Kona's mutters (some amazing guesses if it isn't right).
I threw this a "9" (this time mostly because the Lucky*Channel segment, though funny I feel like it eliminates manga source material time - for which there is plenty of material).
The split-screen is not really in the manga as such -- but it is a brilliant bit, particularly when the scenes are the SAME scene but from different camera angles.
In the manga, there's less/no reference to current material but these girls would be discussing current pop media and games so inserting comments about things they'd probably like in real life seems very appropriate.
"May Sickness" ... in the US we call it "spring fever"... sometimes "post-final blahs" or "after-final crash". It isn't unique to Japan, grades tend to drop and people stare out the window a lot or call in sick more often, take naps, chase pretty girls or guys, etc.
I'm sorry but Konata mangling those songs just makes me die from laughter, there's so much jubilant wild misdirected energy in them.
I'm wondering if they are referring to the manga for some of Kona's mutters (some amazing guesses if it isn't right).
I threw this a "9" (this time mostly because the Lucky*Channel segment, though funny I feel like it eliminates manga source material time - for which there is plenty of material).
The split-screen is not really in the manga as such -- but it is a brilliant bit, particularly when the scenes are the SAME scene but from different camera angles.
In the manga, there's less/no reference to current material but these girls would be discussing current pop media and games so inserting comments about things they'd probably like in real life seems very appropriate.
"May Sickness" ... in the US we call it "spring fever"... sometimes "post-final blahs" or "after-final crash". It isn't unique to Japan, grades tend to drop and people stare out the window a lot or call in sick more often, take naps, chase pretty girls or guys, etc.
Hmm... so that was what was missing from my reposts. The addition of scores. :heh:
As much as I find Lucky Star amusing, I am going to have to give it a ranking of 07 for both Ep01 and Ep02.
The reason for this is because Lucky Star is not constant in its' amusement (from my point of view). The humour is largely dependant on whether you get it or not, and if you don't, well... the humour gears are not going to click.
When an episode makes me wonder about the time, it has already failed to fully capture my attention, and this did occur in Lucky Star for me. In Ep02's case, the points were when they were talking about the "May Sickness", and the discussion of Konata's job.
Maybe it is because of my geographical location. :heh: Seasons? The only "seasons" my country have are the "It's Raining Everyday" season, and the "It's Raining Sometimes" season. :p
So wait. Why then am I so enthusiastic about Lucky Star?
Because of everything else.
Firstly, there is the brilliant dynamic between Kagami and Konata. The pair are a comedy team, with Konata supplying the ammunition for Kagami's punchline. I have yet to be disappointed by the energy that is generated by their scenes.
Secondly, there is Akira. Her bi-polar personality is wickedly amusing, and I seldom get tired of such traits. Too bad she is not a genuine "psycho-moe" character though (that would be if Miyuki suddenly went "The Shining" on the rest of the cast). :heh:
Thirdly, the secondary characters. Outside of the main four, we are not really acquainted with the rest of the characters yet. The teacher thus far has been hitting the right notes, and I look forward to the rest of them.
Fourthly, the lack of fear on using self-referential jokes. This is something that KyoAni has never feared to do to themselves, and if they kick it up a notch, they may really move into high gear on this aspect.
Cheers.
Oh... I'd like to throw kudos at a.f.k.'s translation this episode .... it was *really* good (imo, of course) ... and the technicalities handling the splitscreen and dialog running over each other handled quite nicely. The only off bit seemed to me was calling the face-making contest a "staring contest"... I also liked the way they ran Kona's "customer service" noises together....
kenjiharima
2007-04-20, 11:51
haven't seen the fan sub version yet, but I gave it still a 9 for making me laugh at some points. I just wish they made more parodies, seems this episode promoted other animes and focused on the manga version.
JediNight
2007-04-20, 11:54
I gave Ep1 a 6, and Ep2 a 9.
The food section dragged on for too long, and overall the scenes were extremely disjointed in the changes, even for a 4-koma. Ep2 though had much better transitions between scenes, and had a lot more gags overall IMHO.
Blue Reverie
2007-04-20, 11:57
I vote an 8. Better then the first episode but not by much (note this is not a bad thing nesc.). Almost all of the jokes amused me and I, too, was infected by the laughter aimed at Konata's unseen "College winning face". Not really sure what else I can comment on other then I wonder if we'll find out what sorts of otaku memorobellia (sp?) Konata collects.
Also, as far as the "Change Getter" joke, I figured it was too obvious for most people to bother commenting on.
I hope the ending continues to be nothing but Konata (or maybe the others too) badly singing obscure oldschool anime/tv themes. It'd be amusing to wonder if she'd sing something forgien but I doubt it.
Daniel E.
2007-04-20, 21:53
Say, did Kagami took the test with everyone else in the same classroom? :confused:
I know she is supposed to be in a different one, but during the whole scene about the test, it was as if she was right there all along.
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4705/grab12861fy7.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grab12861fy7.jpg)
Makes me wonder why they bother putting her in a different class to begin with; I mean she is always there anyway. :p
I got the impression it was a school-wide test (like those silly standardized tests). But yes, they seem a bit rickety in portraying Kagami as being in a different class. Its in the manga .... but this may be a case where the gag superceded the continuity.
Michael Hopcroft
2007-04-20, 22:45
The Japanese are notorious for standardized tests and teaching to them, largely because the purpose of the high school curriculum is to prepare for college entrance exams, which in turn determine the entire course of a person's life. (For example, people who get into Tokyo University (Todai) are usually set fr life and have entry into Japan's elite).
Kona-chan's approach (cram all night before the test) is not all that uncommon.
An odd note: Kagami's father is a Priest (his morning in that scene was spent blessing a construction site) and at least one of her older sisters is a Miko. I wonder if this helps explain why Kagami is so stuck-up about certain things (and why she is berating Kona-chan's immorality on occasions such as the one in episode 1).
Does anyone else feel that Lucky Star is more-or-less centered on Kona's and Kagami's playful rivalry with each other?! Tsukasa and Miyuki kind of round out things for levity, but most of the "action," so-to-speak, centers around Kona's whackiness and off-beat ways butting against Kagami's straight-and-narrow path.
If you look at most of the scenes, Miyuki and Tsukasa are frankly either too timid or too nice to stand up to either Kagami or Kona, but Kagami always calls out Kona's laziness, otakuness, etc. In kind, Kona challenges Kagami in grades, games (like the UFO Catcher), etc.
That would be the format of the 4-koma as well ... (though the others get a lot of page time as well). The "center" could be described as the Kona/Kagami dynamic.
Daniel E.
2007-04-21, 00:00
I got the impression it was a school-wide test (like those silly standardized tests). But yes, they seem a bit rickety in portraying Kagami as being in a different class. Its in the manga .... but this may be a case where the gag superceded the continuity.
Following along that very same scene... I also though it was curious how Kagami ask both Tsukasa and Konata about their grades, but totally avoids Miyuki while being there.
Guess she wanted to go for the weaker ones before facing complete defeat. :p
Deathkillz
2007-04-21, 02:53
^ well considering that shes next to perfection that may very well be the case O.o (and i hope she doesnt get rid of her glasses for contacts cause i think she looks cuter that way :3)
im shocked at how well kona did...sheesh i wish i can cram revision like that >_<
Julius Firefocht
2007-04-21, 03:00
That Getter reference really cracked me up, since I am a huge Super Robot fan.
This is a very solid episode overall, better than episode 1 IMO. Konata is just too cute for words!
Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-21, 04:40
That Getter reference really cracked me up, since I am a huge Super Robot fan.
This is a very solid episode overall, better than episode 1 IMO. Konata is just too cute for words!
Good lord finally somebody other than me and Vallen got it. Still, Makes me worry for the prospect of the endings ever being popular if they are all old Metal Hero theme songs. Then again what do I care really, that was their choice, even though I think it was a very clever one regarding Konata's character wanting to reminisce about show 3 times as old as she is, it's up to the viewers to decide in the end.
By the way man did I sock it to this series by giving this episode a 7 out of 10. That just goes to show how much I hate it. Grrrrrr. Anger.... :(
I'm much more curious on what will Kagami, Tsukasa and Miyuki will sing now. I wonder what are their tastes .
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-04-21, 04:59
Then again what do I care really, that was their choice, even though I think it was a very clever one regarding Konata's character wanting to reminisce about show 3 times as old as she is, it's up to the viewers to decide in the end.
One of my friends run an anime store. He has two daughters 4 and 5 years old respectively, and he already got them addicted to all the old shows he used to watch; including the one Kona-chan sang the OP of in this episode. So yes, it can and does happen.
Kona-chan's approach (cram all night before the test) is not all that uncommon.
This reminds of myself, I alway pull all-nighter for every examination :heh:
But I grasped most of the concepts during lesson, unlike Konata, which may be why I'm able to pass exam with a single night study session :rolleyes:
When an episode makes me wonder about the time, it has already failed to fully capture my attention, and this did occur in Lucky Star for me. In Ep02's case, the points were when they were talking about the "May Sickness", and the discussion of Konata's job.
Maybe it is because of my geographical location. Seasons? The only "seasons" my country have are the "It's Raining Everyday" season, and the "It's Raining Sometimes" season.
Living in same country, I also don't quite understand the May Sickness part, something I have not experienced before. :mad:
Lucky Channel in this episode is yet another win xD
PS: Did this lucky channel appear in 4-koma in another 'form'?
wow what i see. Lucky Star replaced kanon and got its own forum. that's wonderful. obviously one thread wasnt enough.
I'm in anticipation of the upcoming episode 3.
Was one of the seiyuu on Koi no Apron?
From compiled guest lists of Koi no Apron and Ai no Apron on the net, the Lucky Star seiyuus never appeared on the shows before. The only people related to anime which I happen to know are Nakagawa Shoko, Tokita Ami and Ogura Yuko, except that all three are better known for their work as gravure idols.
So I tried searching in a different direction and found something about the man who balances a red wash basin on his head. There's also an entry in the japanese wiki named 赤い洗面器の男 (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%B5%A4%E3%81%84%E6%B4%97%E9%9D%A2%E5%99%A8%E3%8 1%AE%E7%94%B7) (romanized as "akai senmenki no otoko", meaning "red wash basin man"). Apparently, it is a running gag found in Mitani Koki's work, a famous Japanese playwright in Japan. Most of them appeared in Furuhata Ninzaburo, a popular detective drama serial from the 90's, where Tamura Masakazu (some J-dorama fans should be able to recognize him) plays the title character. The gag is such that a character will talk about the red wash basin man and ask the question "why does he balance the red wash basin on his head?", but the punchline is always never given.
How all these references are related is totally lost on me, I guess it was meant to be random or something. Furuhata Ninzaburo seems like an interesting show though. :heh:
EDIT: Just noticed the entry for Lucky Star's reference at the bottom of the wiki page I linked. It mentions that the reference was probably made out of respect for Mitani's work. I guess that make sense too.
Shiori-chan
2007-04-21, 10:12
pretty good episode, and akira made me laugh again :D although the rest is funny too ^^
Blue Reverie
2007-04-21, 11:51
Good lord finally somebody other than me and Vallen got it.
Also, as far as the "Change Getter" joke, I figured it was too obvious for most people to bother commenting on.
A few more people then that have mentioned it. You're not the only one who has watched the classics man. :rolleyes:
DannoHung
2007-04-21, 12:42
I think the pacing of the jokes were a lot tighter in this episode. As some people have mentioned, though, I thought the May Fever joke dragged a little (maybe there were puns in there that didn't translate properly?).
The split screen near the beginning of the episode was f'ing brilliant. Just lovely. KyoAni again raises the bar on animated camera work.
Lucky Channel had me in god damned TEARS. Holy shit, spinoff please.
Good lord finally somebody other than me and Vallen got it. Still, Makes me worry for the prospect of the endings ever being popular if they are all old Metal Hero theme songs. Then again what do I care really, that was their choice, even though I think it was a very clever one regarding Konata's character wanting to reminisce about show 3 times as old as she is, it's up to the viewers to decide in the end.
By the way man did I sock it to this series by giving this episode a 7 out of 10. That just goes to show how much I hate it. Grrrrrr. Anger.... :(
Not to overspoil... but Konata's love for anime series older than she is stems from her dad's geekiness (whom I dearly hope we get to meet in the anime later.
Kaoru Chujo
2007-04-21, 13:00
...Living in same country, I also don't quite understand the May Sickness part, something I have not experienced before....I live in a country with four seasons, and where people (especially in fiction) talk about "spring fever," but as far as I've ever been concerned it's just a joke, and there's not really any such thing, even figuratively. Here, the idea is now (maybe it was different in the past) that people get all excited and eager, as opposed to the drab, draggy days of winter. I really had no idea that's what they were talking about with "May sickness" -- and I suspect it's not exactly the same thing as our "spring fever" -- but it didn't matter. It was still hilarious because the idea was clearly that she was referring to something that was just called a "sickness" but wasn't really one. In tropical countries, is there some similar concept referring to before/after the monsoon arrives?
I don't know what grade to give these episodes -- somewhere from 7 to 9, probably 8 and 9 -- but I loved both of them, and thought two was a bit funnier, but maybe only because I had gotten used to the style of the show.
Maybe my favorite part of ep 2 was when Konata had just pwned those guys in the fighting game (you see I'm no gamer) and Tsukasa said how good she was and she said: "Maa, ne." (Which I interpreted as something like: "Yeah, I guess so.") With a self-satisfied little smile.
That brings up another thing. I don't know the games or some of the older anime, and yet I still find these things funny, even when I don't get the allusions. I'd find them funnier if I did, of course.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-21, 13:57
I live in a country with four seasons, and where people (especially in fiction) talk about "spring fever," but as far as I've ever been concerned it's just a joke, and there's not really any such thing, even figuratively. Here, the idea is now (maybe it was different in the past) that people get all excited and eager, as opposed to the drab, draggy days of winter. I really had no idea that's what they were talking about with "May sickness" -- and I suspect it's not exactly the same thing as our "spring fever" -- but it didn't matter. It was still hilarious because the idea was clearly that she was referring to something that was just called a "sickness" but wasn't really one. In tropical countries, is there some similar concept referring to before/after the monsoon arrives?
I don't know what grade to give these episodes -- somewhere from 7 to 9, probably 8 and 9 -- but I loved both of them, and thought two was a bit funnier, but maybe only because I had gotten used to the style of the show.
Maybe my favorite part of ep 2 was when Konata had just pwned those guys in the fighting game (you see I'm no gamer) and Tsukasa said how good she was and she said: "Maa, ne." (Which I interpreted as something like: "Yeah, maybe.") With a self-satisfied little smile.
That brings up another thing. I don't know the games or some of the older anime, and yet I still find these things funny, even when I don't get the allusions. I'd find them funnier if I did, of course.
The subs I saw translate that as "No, it's nothing" probably meaning she feels she's not that great. The other guy really seemed to suck too by walking into a clear grappling characters range of attack without setting up a magic combo. Ypi should jump in in that case since it makes it much harder to pull off a grapple special move. She definitely knew and was probably smirking about that as well.
I'm starting to wonder if Konata is the Lucky Star the title is referring to and that she has extremely good luck in a lot of things along with a natural talent for them.
Michael Hopcroft
2007-04-21, 14:27
The first guy should stick to Playstation RPGs (his T-shirt is a Final Fantasy X-2 reference).
If Kona-chan ever invites her friends over to play video games, would it be prudent for them to refuse? Especially given Kona-chan's taste in subject matter?
Matt Soulblade
2007-04-21, 22:15
Much better than the first one IMO, its not that the first was bad but it had some parts that ruined the ep a little, but this one remained costant, practically because everything that was said in the first page of the tread. Konata is like a mirror that KEEPS FOCUSING ME zomg, she alone makes Lucky Star worth :)
BTW just a question: Does Lucky Channel appear in the manga? (btw, gogo Akira-sama, mistress of the brute honestity! :D)
WanderingKnight
2007-04-21, 22:23
Does Lucky Channel appear in the manga? (btw, gogo Akira-sama, mistress of the brute honestity! )
Nope, it's been said a few times, it's a promotional radio show that started airing before the series. Though in the radio show Akira didn't show any signs of bipolarity.
Nope, it's been said a few times, it's a promotional radio show that started airing before the series. Though in the radio show Akira didn't show any signs of bipolarity.
She has made cameo appearances in vol. 2 manga. I donna if she did same or not in vol 3&4 since I haven't had chance to get them.
Darklightz
2007-04-22, 10:41
I really enjoyed the references to other series in this episode.I guess that's becoming more common these days.
Heh,I'd love to try that drum game with the Suzumiya Haruhi ending song.
Well... Kona is a geekgrrl... she lives in "our time"... she goes to the arcade... where they have drum arcade units that play well known anime and pop songs. I won't say it *isn't* product placement but it also is not intrusively inserted.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-04-22, 13:14
I really enjoyed the references to other series in this episode.I guess that's becoming more common these days.
Heh,I'd love to try that drum game with the Suzumiya Haruhi ending song.
It's called Taiko no Tatsujin: Doka! to Oomori Nanadaime. The song is actually kind of on the easy side for that game. You should be able to nail it with a little practice.
In the Rayman series "Raving Rabbids" for the Wii ... one of the hundreds of minigames in it includes an identical drumming game.
You take the Wii and its associated "nunchuk" attachment and use each like a drumstick. You then have to match the beat and the rabbids as they run towards the "strike plate" in tune to such things as "La Bamba" or that surfer tune from Pulp Fiction or other various genre tunes.
Being able to beat a real drum would be fun though.
mukansa monkey
2007-04-22, 23:43
Oh... I'd like to throw kudos at a.f.k.'s translation this episode .... it was *really* good (imo, of course) ... and the technicalities handling the splitscreen and dialog running over each other handled quite nicely. The only off bit seemed to me was calling the face-making contest a "staring contest"... I also liked the way they ran Kona's "customer service" noises together....
The way I read that scene was that it was supposed to be a staring contest. But Konata's "staring" face is so bizarre that the other girls can't help but crack up. Besides, isn't that how most staring contests are actually decided? One person making a face so outrageous that the other has to look away? That's always how I won...
afk's subs sounds fine.
睨む = to stare.
From my TL notes (http://www.windfs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=175) of this EP:
にらめっこ / Niramekko
Niramekko is a children's game. It's a staring contest but one is suppose to make the others laugh by making faces. Before the contest begins, this song below is usually sung (but it is common that the first line is cut). This is why, Konata said "ah, pu, pu" before making her face.
QUOTE
だるまさん、だるまさん、にらめっこしましょ
笑うと負けよ、あっぷっぷ
TL:
Daruma-san (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%A0%E3%82%8B%E3%81%BE), Daruma-san, Let's have a staring contest.
If you laugh, you will lose, ah, pu, pu.
aye... the word translates literally as "stare" ... but if one is going for cultural localization as a.f.k. has, I'd wager more viewers would understand "face-making" game (where the first one to laugh loses) than "staring" game (where the first one to *blink* loses).
I'd have probably taken the opportunity and just written "niramekko" with a footnote describing the game for a bit of cultural education, but ymmv.
DragoonKain3
2007-04-23, 14:44
Vexx, doesn't cracking even the teensiest of smiles, much less laughter, considered disqualification in staring matches? Well at least it is in my part of the world, and if the National Association of Staredown Proffesionals says it is, I would think that more people than not would consider it as well. XD
And the beauty of the scene? We don't see Konata's face, as such it is left to the watcher's imagination what it looked like, whether it's a full blown face (aka. face-making contest) or just with her eyes (aka. a regular staring contest). And to those who aren't familiar with niramekko (which I assume is most people who watch the subs), they would just assume that it really is a 'regular' staring contest because well, the twins never attempted to make any faces.
As such, I really think staring contest is more approriate than face-making, since afk is just making their subs as easy to understand to as much people as possible. Because, you know, there's people like me who never ever heard of face-making contests before. XD
Yeah, I concede it must be very much a regional thing so I'll drop it.
But my anecdotal experience (personal and watching kids) was that - the only "lose" was if you blinked. It was more about dry eyes than anything else.
As usual, YMMV.
And I completely agree, the beauty of the scene is that Konata's face is left to the imagination - not to mention the VA Hirano's rendition of those syllables as she's making her face were just damned funny.
Oh don't get me started on how Hirano nails the word play. :D
Mr JeburtO
2007-04-23, 17:10
loved the discussion about drama cds and animes having different voice actors as thats the case with Lucky Star :D
mouhitori
2007-04-24, 05:43
About the staring contest .... it's probably extremely difficult to laugh hard AND still open your eyes at the same time for an extended period.
If someone can achieve that, he/she would look very scary I think:heh:, and deserve to win an award!
Also didn't know that the apupu sound that Konata made was part of the game, so thanks for the info. I thought it was part of her winning strategy :heh:
Is the music played during the UFO catcher scene from Super Mario? I read that on another site.
Telliamed
2007-04-24, 20:47
Definitely not, +/- 0.00000001% since I don't actually have the entire soundtrack of SMB on my hard drive, and can't do a direct comparison. But it doesn't sound like anything I remember from Nintendo.
I know it's not the main theme, which is permanently embedded in my synapses. Frightening thought, that.
edit: Yes. It is. It's a wiki for Bob's sake. Any moron could've written that.
http://www.geocities.com/chp295/coolwavs.html <- MIDI, because I'm not going to waste my bandwidth on such a silly thing.
Hmm I guess the site was wrong.
http://www.raki-suta.com/wiki/index.php?title=Trivia
Ascaloth
2007-04-25, 10:29
When I did Episode 1, I said I'll drop this because it just wasn't for me. But having kept tabs on the activity of the Lucky Star thread, I figured I was missing something, so here I am, having just gone through Episode 2.
So, Episode 1 gets a 6, but Episode 2 gets an 8. Simply put, the jokes were tighter and better-spun this time round. I actually found myself smiling widely for the most part; something I didn't expect. Well, looks like even KyoAni's trademark "slow start" got even me. >_<
Episode 1 (and various discussions on the net) left me a bit undecided about what to make out of Lucky Star, but Lucky Channel and the Karaoke ending let me watch episode 2.
And here I am converted ;). I still love Akira and Lucky Channel the most, but Konata runs up to second place now, she had some hilarious scenes :D .
*off to watch episode 3*
Meophist
2007-04-26, 17:25
I was just thinking, aren't UFO Catchers called "Crane Game" in English?
It has a variety of names in english depending on the brand... but "crane game" is as good as any. Actually I have no idea what 'ufo catcher' might refer since the things are almost always used with plushie merchandise....
hmmm, maybe the crane itself is supposed to look like a ufo descending to collect lifeform samples????
Meophist
2007-04-26, 17:53
Wikipedia simply refers them to "Claw vending machines", but "crane game" is what I often her them being refered to in video games like Link's Awakening, so I assume that's the common term.
I just found it odd that a.f.k. used "UFO Catcher" in their subs considering how much the group tends to localize things. Not that I mind, however.
Deathkillz
2007-04-26, 17:56
lol i havent seen a.f.k.s sub but imo using creative words for situations like this are pretty funny ~ as long as it gets the point across and its not something entirely language/meaning based i can live with it :3
Meophist
2007-04-26, 18:06
Err… I'm not talking about creative words. I'm talking about a pretty common English equivilent to the Japanese "UFO Catchers". Unless you're talking about something else?
I was just thinking, aren't UFO Catchers called "Crane Game" in English?
They ARE called "UFO Catchers" in English. It is even written, in English, on the machine itself. :heh: They are pretty widespread around here (nefarious coin-sucking pink machines). I have never heard of them being called "Crane XX" before, it has always been "UFO Catcher" in times memorial.
ADD] As for the meaning of the name, it is pretty straightforward. The claw device had an UFO disc above the claws with spinning lights. In the past, the UFO had three claws, but apparently three made the game too easy, and it eventually evolved to the current two claw version.
Cheers.
What the heck is a quo card?
And why does she want to collect them?
Meophist
2007-04-26, 22:00
They ARE called "UFO Catchers" in English. It is even written, in English, on the machine itself. :heh: They are pretty widespread around here (nefarious coin-sucking pink machines). I have never heard of them being called "Crane XX" before, it has always been "UFO Catcher" in times memorial.I know it's in English, but I only remember them being called "UFO Catcher" in Japan. I was pretty sure they're called by various other names here in North America.
FatPianoBoy
2007-04-26, 22:03
There's an arcade nearby that has four of the things, and they're all labeled 'UFO Catcher.'
I've seen em at the gameworks near here. They are indeed called UFO catcher. Probably because of the big UFO like bulge over the claw.
What the heck is a quo card?
And why does she want to collect them?
I think it's a phone card. The Comptiq ones have anime/game characters on them.
See here:
http://www.comptiq.com/event/2007_winter/index.html
Quo is the company that makes them.
http://www.quocard.com/
robertness
2007-04-26, 22:29
Every time I hear a crane game called a UFO Catcher, I think of the scene with the green aliens in Toy Story. "It moves, the claw!" "Oooooooooooooooooooh!" Sorry to have intruded on Lucky Star goodness with a Pixar/Disney moment.
Apparently, "UFO Catcher" is the "in" brand name these days for the things. I'll admit not having been to an arcade in 10 years....
(but yes, .... the first thought I had was from Toy Story....
oooooooooooh, He has been Chosen!!!)
Edgewalker
2007-04-27, 12:15
Guess Ill just stop while Im ahead. This show is clearly not going to go anywhere.
*Permanently backs out of lucky star forum*
A lot of people don't like the lucky channel at the end but I do. It was quite funny in this ep when akira said "if you're just reading your lines, even a monkey could do that" -.-
Tatsumiko
2007-05-01, 13:59
Konata sure rules in video games....and cramming for exams XD
Hi all!
My eagle-eyed brother (because he ogles L*S girls for all the sick Soujirou reasons) noticed that in ep 2 the quad are going home after school and are waiting at the bus stop at the train station... but why? Don't they separately take different buses FROM eaches own home train station going home from school? Technically it works if the bus stop is at the school, but not the train station, so this was a slip-up! Way to go bro'!
Dee
"Miyuki's Spaced-Out Secret":
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4184788/1/Miyukis_SpacedOut_Secret
"The Yamato Effect":
http://luckystarforum.com/Dee/The_Yamato_Effect.pdf
.
Bus stops often have multiple bus liines that depart from them and they may be waiting for separate buses. However, the four don't live a huge distance from each other. It seems to me that someone actually worked out their fictional locales in Tokyo and which transit routes they'd take - but its been so long since the series aired I don't remember where I saw that.
Anh_Minh
2008-06-09, 03:42
His point was that if they were at the train station, they should have gotten inside and waited for their (different) trains.
Unless they walk from school to a train station, take a bus to a different station, and take the train there, I suppose.
Or maybe they have several possible itineraries, which they change according to mood, and had decided to take the bus instead of the train that day.
His point was that if they were at the train station, they should have gotten inside and waited for their (different) trains.
Unless they walk from school to a train station, take a bus to a different station, and take the train there, I suppose.
Or maybe they have several possible itineraries, which they change according to mood, and had decided to take the bus instead of the train that day.
Then, it kinda makes sense if they all took the bus from school to the train station to go their separate trains home as usual, but then at the train station maybe someone forgot their books or wallet or that an after-school movie was playing or they're just plain masochistic and are going to take another bus BACK to school! (Would you believe you can get PAID to check out inconsistencies and continuity-errors in movie post-production jobs? Check out Craig's List!) One reason to wish I lived n L.A. or NYC!)
But maybe it'd be fun picking out L*S mistakes and flubs like this in a Blooper Topic maybe??
Dee
A lot of the scenes occur at totally different time settings even though they might seem to be back to back sequences. There was one scene where there were four people studying, and on the very next scene, one of the character got swapped with another, even though the scene carried on as if it was the same exact setting.
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