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hollywoodlou
2007-09-26, 00:26
I think she loves him... like a little brother... that she has a crush on.
I kid, I bet Clare does not completely understand the feelings she's feeling, so that was the only way she could express how much she cared for the boy.
That's an "usual" way of showing she cared..she could've brought Raki to McDonald's or given him a puppy or just say I "care fo' you".
Please, this here is a Question & Answer thread for things around Claymore. It is not a discussion thread...
Admins loves to delete her some "offtopic" posting :)
Will there be a new season?
NoSanninWa
2007-09-26, 23:04
Will there be a new season?
Probably not. Though the actual answer is unknown, the fact that it went waaaay off the manga by the final episode makes it rather unlikely.
Sarugaki
2007-09-27, 11:48
what's the status of the manga ? is it over ?
No, it is ongoing Chapter 73 is up to date. In November the Main Manga will continue.
Spectacular_Insanity
2007-09-27, 16:54
Hi. Just watched the entire series yesterday afternoon. It was sweet, I was up until 4 am watching the last episodes of the first season. :D
My question: How is Flora's Windcutter different from Clare's Flash Sword (okay, technically it's not her technique, but let's not split hairs)?
As far as I know, the Flash Sword is performed by awakening only her arm and directing its power in the direction of the enemy, but I'm not sure if Windcutter Flora's technique is similar, the same, or completely different.
NoSanninWa
2007-09-27, 17:03
Windcutter involves pinpoint youki control to cause immediate acceleration. Flash Sword is a controlled awakening of a single arm. As a result Windcutter has less power and speed than Flash Sword, but greater precision. Windcutter is also a much less dangerous technique for the user.
Edit: Fixed a confusing typo, thanks DazarGaidin.
AKDieseL
2007-09-27, 17:51
No, it is ongoing Chapter 73 is up to date. In November the Main Manga will continue.
Main manga? what do you mean by that? is it going through a manga filler period atm???
DazarGaidin
2007-09-27, 17:56
Flash Sword is also a much less dangerous technique for the user.
You mean windcutter is less dangerous right?
Sassarai
2007-09-27, 19:20
Wel if windcutter is pinpoint yoki control isnt that like Mirias phantom move? Hence strain the body more?
NoSanninWa
2007-09-28, 00:39
Very similar to Miria's move, but it is only in one arm and thus it is less stressful.
And while it does strain the arm it doesn't have nearly as much strain on both body and mind as allowing your right arm to half-awaken. And if you want to discuss it more, please take it to the "Biology of Claymore" thread.
Spectacular_Insanity
2007-09-28, 02:51
Windcutter involves pinpoint youki control to cause immediate acceleration. Flash Sword is a controlled awakening of a single arm. As a result Windcutter has less power and speed than Flash Sword, but greater precision. Windcutter is also a much less dangerous technique for the user.
Edit: Fixed a confusing typo, thanks DazarGaidin.
Thanks for clearing that up. I understand now.
zhoutai753
2007-09-28, 05:03
Has there ever been a defensive type that has become number 1?
DazarGaidin
2007-09-28, 07:03
It is never specifically stated (could speculate....but not here..). Unless it is stated in that stats book, but i never seen it in english :(
Spectacular_Insanity
2007-09-28, 12:17
That reminds me. Once a Claymore completely undergoes their transformation once they are initiated into the society (bit strangely worded, I know), can they change what type of fighter they are (offensive/defensive)? Or are they stuck to one type forever?
Also, what type was Teresa? If it was ever really stated, that is. I always felt she was the offensive type, but I'm really not sure.
Sassarai
2007-09-28, 15:56
I doubt they could switch to a different type. That would be too cheap. If you lose a arm you can change to a defensive type and grow it back.... Oh well but who knows the organization is full of mysteries. Heck im not even sure if they could choose what type they want to be in the first place.
Teresa is probably an offensive type. Pretty much all single digits that are "listed" are offensive except Galatea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Claymore_characters
Anh_Minh
2007-09-28, 16:35
We only know the types of Rigald, Duph, Irene, Galatea, Ophelia, and Jean. All the rest is more or less educated guess.
NoSanninWa
2007-09-29, 01:34
That reminds me. Once a Claymore completely undergoes their transformation once they are initiated into the society (bit strangely worded, I know), can they change what type of fighter they are (offensive/defensive)? Or are they stuck to one type forever?
We are told that there is no way for a Claymore to change their type between Offensive and Defensive. We are very clearly informed of that. It happens based on your personality when first become a Claymore and will never change. It is absolutely permanent.
Of course we are also told that you can never return to being a Claymore after go past your limit yet that rule has been broken left right and center. Jean and Clare even Awakened their bodies and changed back to human, so we can't be sure that a future chapter won't change the rules about changing your type.
Sassarai
2007-09-29, 02:47
We are told that there is no way for a Claymore to change their type between Offensive and Defensive. We are very clearly informed of that. It happens based on your personality when first become a Claymore and will never change. It is absolutely permanent.
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Can you give me the chapter in the manga or anime episode that was in? I miss that part. Or all you talking about that Deneve speech?
ClaFanN1
2007-09-29, 07:13
What is Teresa's symbol? Is it the same as Clare's?
I looked on the net for the symbols, but couldnt find them. They're not even in the extensive wiki claymore article (full of spoilers so beware).
There's a comprehensive guide for Claymore's TV Series, its recent so some might not know about it. It lists all Claymore Symbols used in the series and a lot of other spoilers lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claymore_(TV_series)
Spectacular_Insanity
2007-09-29, 12:08
We are told that there is no way for a Claymore to change their type between Offensive and Defensive. We are very clearly informed of that. It happens based on your personality when first become a Claymore and will never change. It is absolutely permanent.
Of course we are also told that you can never return to being a Claymore after go past your limit yet that rule has been broken left right and center. Jean and Clare even Awakened their bodies and changed back to human, so we can't be sure that a future chapter won't change the rules about changing your type.
Well, the reason I asked was because I'm still not sure where the line is drawn between the Claymores' ability to to merely "heal" themselves (like Clare having to reattach her legs after Ophelia cut them off) and actually regenerating limbs or other body parts. For instance, how was Ophelia able to survive her head nearly being twisted off? I thought only a defensive type could perform such a feat of survival, and since I'm pretty sure Ophelia is an offensive type (after swearing to kill all Awakened Beings). I was completely shocked.
DazarGaidin
2007-09-29, 18:48
She just repaired neck/spine damage, she didn't regenerate her head..it was still firmly attached. There has been people who have broken necks and survived (paralized)...if she was alive i dont think such a repair is a big deal to a claymore.
Prolly move this to the biology of claymore now..
Garet Jax
2007-09-29, 20:12
Probably not. Though the actual answer is unknown, the fact that it went waaaay off the manga by the final episode makes it rather unlikely.
I don't know if this is the right place for this question, but...why did things change so much? Is this standard practice? Things didn't really end in a conclusive way. If they weren't going to do that, why not stick to following the manga? I'm not currently a reader, but was there any good reason they couldn't have done that? I've heard that the pace of the manga release means that it would be 5+ years before there's enough material for another season (accurate?), so I thought the reason for a change would be to have closure in an anime original ending. But it seems similarly unfinished either way. :eyebrow:
DazarGaidin
2007-09-29, 20:35
There is no definite answer, only speculation.
In regards to the manga taking about 5 years, yeah that is about accurate (4 years maybe), unless they switch it from a monthly release.
NoSanninWa
2007-09-30, 03:22
We are told that there is no way for a Claymore to change their type between Offensive and Defensive. We are very clearly informed of that. It happens based on your personality when first become a Claymore and will never change. It is absolutely permanent.
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Can you give me the chapter in the manga or anime episode that was in? I miss that part. Or all you talking about that Deneve speech?
I don't have the manga handy at the moment to tell you the chapters, but it was in a few parts. The first time this is explained it was Ophelia explaining why Clare will never be able to recover her arm. Later Irene elaborates a bit more. Then when they were fighting Duff someone commented that even though Duff is Awakened, he still isn't very good at regenerating because he is an Offensive type. This was evidence that it Awakened Beings have the same limit. Then Riful commented that since Duff is so ridiculously strong at offense his regeration is equally slow. Finally Deneve had a few things to say on the subject.
The various comments on the subject are quite consistent.
Anh_Minh
2007-09-30, 03:49
But none of that really means that the type couldn't change if, say, a drastic personality change occurred.
kureshii
2007-09-30, 05:05
Well, from the anime it is stated that your type is determined by what you think most about when you're on the brink of death: if you're still thinking about attacking the enemy, you're offensive; if you're thinking about protecting yourself, you're defensive. This has alot to do with your intrinsic personal motivations, past history and background. The first is possible to change, the latter 2 are not.
Yes, I suppose someone could possibly change from an offensive to defensive Claymore, however it would involve quite a major change in character (more than just Deneve acting like Helen or vice-versa, anyway) and would be very hard to pull off without screwing up.
I think what would be more interesting would be if Yagi-sensei makes a new character whose background makes her both an offensive and defensive type, or somewhere in-between - a tradeoff achieved with a middle balance point. More attack power, less than an Offensive, but with better regenerative abilities; not full limbs maybe, but smaller body parts (amputations below the elbow/knee, for instance) and heavy injuries.
We'll just have to wait for another interview and see what he says on the matter, I guess.
Ero-Senn1n
2007-09-30, 06:12
When will the anime continue with the second season? Will the anime team wait for the manga to reach a number of chapters that they need to make another season?
I hope they will not continue if there's not enough manga chapters because than they'll had to add fillers and the show would end up just like Naruto and similar anime series which are loaded with bad fillers.
zato_1one
2007-09-30, 14:16
The show had already been screwed so badly. If MADHOUSE really want to make second season, they will follow manga until the end. But it seems that they don't and the ending is completely different so much that it can't follow manga anymore.
So give up with the second season and read the manga. May be in next 4-5 years when the manga is finished. We may see Claymore OVA just like Hellsing OVA.
In fact, I hope that MADHOUSE won't do second season anymore. Because I don't want to see one of my most favorite series be trashed like this again. Just 6 episodes of MADHOUSE's fanfiction can almost destroy the entire series. Don't even hope that next 26 episodes of MADHOUSE's fanfiction will be better than this.
Q> Are there any rumours/news about claymore season 2? :s
NoSanninWa
2007-10-01, 21:11
Q> Are there any rumours/news about claymore season 2? :s
Nope. None.
BTW: This question was asked and answered often since episode 26 aired, so please read before asking.
hollywoodlou
2007-10-02, 01:28
Here's one:
I;m guessing everyone knows (mostly) that Irene said that "Claymores never age" (see Ophelia arc/Fit for Battle).
In chapter 64/when Raphaela meets chibi Teresa, was she "technically a Claymore"?
a) If she was, is it because of that she "sensed" Raphaela's "faint aura" as explained by Teresa's quote:"why is your yoma like this?"
b) if above statement is correct...how was she able to age/grow up normally?
NoSanninWa
2007-10-02, 01:38
Here's one:
I;m guessing everyone knows (mostly) that Irene said that "Claymores never age" (see Ophelia arc/Fit for Battle).
In chapter 64/when Raphaela meets chibi Teresa, was she "technically a Claymore"?
a) If she was, is it because of that she "sensed" Raphaela's "faint aura" as explained by Teresa's quote:"why is your yoma like this?"
b) if above statement is correct...how was she able to age/grow up normally?
You should reread what Irene said. She said, "We half youma's mature, but we don't age." In other words a child Claymore will finish growing up (maturing), but she won't get old after that.
Sassarai
2007-10-04, 10:35
Why wasn't Clare able to control her blades when she became the "queen of blades" and killed xx xx xx x x xx?
NoSanninWa
2007-10-05, 01:28
Why wasn't Clare able to control her blades when she became the "queen of blades" and killed xx xx xx x x xx?
Because her awakened mind was starting to seize control of her body from her human mind.
Does anyone know the EXACT probability (rounded to five decimal places please:D) of there being a second season that is independent of the manga? I know that the show airs at around 1:30AM locally, but madhouse should see the profit they could make by doing a second season and moving it to a better time slot.
Why wasn't Clare able to control her blades when she became the "queen of blades" and killed xx xx xx x x xx?
Oh and to answer your question:
SHE NEEDED TO SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS!!:D:D:D
Sassarai
2007-10-05, 09:25
Does anyone know the EXACT probability (rounded to five decimal places please:D) of there being a second season that is independent of the manga? I know that the show airs at around 1:30AM locally, but madhouse should see the profit they could make by doing a second season and moving it to a better time slot.
Oh and to answer your question:
SHE NEEDED TO SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS!!:D:D:D
Honestly I dont think there's going to be a second season. It's gonna end up like Berserk just gotta deal with the hentai ending. If I have to give it an EXACT probility percentage I would say 25.233(repeating of course) percent it might have a second season in the future.
As for your answer to my question I dont think she has enough minerals to spawn more overlords. Also a terran might of infested her command center.
It just seems strange that every other AB seems to be able to control themselves. Heck it seems the only difference between AB and claymore is that one prefer to eat guts. Maybe I missed something while reading the manga.
Sassarai
2007-10-08, 00:20
Im still waiting for my answer nosanninWa. I know you know the answer.
NoSanninWa
2007-10-08, 00:32
She differs from other Awakened Beings because she isn't an Awakened Being.
The problem is that parts of her mind (the more primitive parts that focus on fight or flight responses, not rational thought) have already awakened. Those awakened parts of her mind are seizing control of her awakened body even though she can still think as a human.
Sassarai
2007-10-08, 00:42
But when you think about it Jeane was like that too yet her will was strong enough that she didnt break through those chains and attack clare. -_-
NoSanninWa
2007-10-08, 00:45
Jean also made it clear that she was struggling to control her body. This thread is not the place to continue the discussion. If you want to argue over whether this means Jean's mind is stronger that Clare's mind, or if Clare is fundamentally different, please take it to the Biology of Claymore thread.
iXenomorph
2007-10-09, 01:27
Hi, just started Claymore and I have a curious question. I don't really mind spoilers, but it'd be nice to avoid them, though I understand due to the nature of this question it's really unavoidable in some cases.
So, my question is:
Who, and what are the organization?
I mean the organization that hires, and maintains the claymores. They seem like "good" guys, in the sense that they hunt and kill Yoma, but then are they really good? It's kind of creepy and ominous that they send some weird cloaked guy to get the money and relay messages, and whenever the people in the administration talk, it's always between 2 shady-looking cloaked guys. Also, they have very strict policies regarding the management of claymore's The death of Teresa is a good example?
so what is their role really? Are they bad/good, or in between? Arregatou for the swift answers.
NoSanninWa
2007-10-09, 01:32
The spoilers below are fairly minor:
I'm sorry, but it is impossible to answer that question. Even people who have read the entire published manga can't answer the question with certainty since much information about the Organization has not yet been revealed. It certainly appears that they are black, if not gray, but we don't really know that for a fact. It is even possible that there are both good and bad factions fighting for control of the Organization. I really hope that I'll learn the answer to these questions as Yagi-sensei continues writing the manga.
There is some discussion about the Organization in The world of Claymore.
Devilz911
2007-10-09, 15:31
Q: Did Priscilla get stronger from the time since her awakening to present timeline?
NoSanninWa
2007-10-09, 16:27
Q: Did Priscilla get stronger from the time since her awakening to present timeline?
Sorry, but we haven't been given the data to compare. We don't know how strong she was then and we don't know the limits of her strength now.
Hikikomori Ja nai
2007-10-09, 22:09
Is Claymore Licensed yet? Also im pretty sure there is no stats to say whether this happens or not but, do you think Claymore or any other open ended anime are more likely to spawn a second season if they are licensed relatively world wide? I think this anime can become very popular given the proper dub and re-production.
Is Claymore Licensed yet? Also im pretty sure there is no stats to say whether this happens or not but, do you think Claymore or any other open ended anime are more likely to spawn a second season if they are licensed relatively world wide? I think this anime can become very popular given the proper dub and re-production.
It made me wonder why Claymore was not pre-licensed before it started to be broadcasted.
Even with its downs, it's a marvelous title. I'm a little bit surprised that until now it hasn't been licensed yet.
The probable reason it's not licensed yet is because the show is too dark and depressing for the average person's taste.
hollywoodlou
2007-10-11, 21:01
The probable reason it's not licensed yet is because the show is too dark and depressing for the average person's taste.
Probably...BUT I find it hard to believe that it's depressing to look at hot women in tight unis.
*****
If Raphaela broke her sister's spine, did she absorb her power as well?
Q:
is Raphaela alive at all ?
King Lycan
2007-10-12, 10:00
We dont know yet .
Are u manga reader
I thought she died together with Luciela, but I see some1 asks about her so I'm not sure
hollywoodlou
2007-10-12, 16:31
I thought she died together with Luciela, but I see some1 asks about her so I'm not sure
I did. If u read that particular chapter 64 (the last 2 pages), I just pondered if Raphy ABSORBED her sister's HUGE yoki. Raphy didn't die...she was seen KILLING her sister and apologized to Luciela for killing her in the end. Raphy blamed herself for her sister's awakening, and that's also why she left one of her eyes to NOT heal as a reminder of what happened.
King Lycan
2007-10-12, 17:11
Well I think i read something about raphy fighting ishely and then dies
hollywoodlou
2007-10-12, 18:37
Well I think i read something about raphy fighting ishely and then dies
dude that was her sister Luciela. Unless you know something we don't,pls. share.
For me, an author will not abandon his character in such a unconfirmed way.
romulusx5
2007-10-18, 13:24
urm...will irene grow her arms back? sorry, had to ask.
King Lycan
2007-10-18, 13:48
Well Right now we dont know for sure but there are various theories about her growing her arms back The Half awaken one was when Clare was fighting ophiela when her hand was shaking that told us that Irene was half awakening
But Not to forget Irene is an Offensive Type Claymore who "Cant" grow limbs
Sassarai
2007-10-18, 13:50
Dead ppl cant grow arms o_O.
but if she wasnt dead http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7485/irenebu7.jpg Or maybe she just said that so Clare wouldnt worry.
romulusx5
2007-10-18, 14:28
Well Right now we dont know for sure but there are various theories about her growing her arms back The Half awaken one was when Clare was fighting ophiela when her hand was shaking that told us that Irene was half awakening
But Not to forget Irene is an Offensive Type Claymore who "Cant" grow limbs
ohhhh, im new to claymore so i thought offensive warriors can grow limbs as well. i think i remember clare growing her hole in her stomach after the yoma struck her in the early part of the series, but it could be me.
so my follow up question is: so irene is dead?
King Lycan
2007-10-18, 21:16
ohhhh, im new to claymore so i thought offensive warriors can grow limbs as well. i think i remember clare growing her hole in her stomach after the yoma struck her in the early part of the series, but it could be me.
so my follow up question is: so irene is dead?
Well We Dont Know if Raphy let her live or die{by the way i hate her} well all claymores can heal them self to some extent
Spectacular_Insanity
2007-10-19, 17:48
ohhhh, im new to claymore so i thought offensive warriors can grow limbs as well. i think i remember clare growing her hole in her stomach after the yoma struck her in the early part of the series, but it could be me.
so my follow up question is: so irene is dead?
There's a difference between healing damage and regenerating lost limbs. It has to do basically the ability to regrow bones. All Claymores can heal their flesh to some extent, but regrowing whole limbs requires the user to be a defensive type.
Edit: And I can't answer your question about Irene with full certainty since I've only watched the anime, but I would say it's likely.
FateAnomaly
2007-10-19, 22:23
No, both offensive and defensive can regenerate limbs. But offensive ones regenerate limbs that have the strength of normal humans while defensive ones regenerate limbs of claymore strength.
7thFonon
2007-10-20, 01:57
Are they taking a huge break from the manga or something? I get all excited at the end of chapter 73 and then can't find 74 or anything....
NoSanninWa
2007-10-20, 02:01
Yes, there was a 4 month break during which Extra Chapters 1-4 have been released. The break ends next month.
King Lycan
2007-10-21, 15:53
Q= How Hold Do U Think Raki Is
hold? as in... holding his .... sword ? :P
I guess you mean OLD. Well, I give him 12
romulusx5
2007-10-22, 09:28
i was confused as well..."hold raki?", why would would anyone hold raki? maybe by the neck. lol well anyways, i place the sissy at 13 1/2. mature enough to get a long smooch from clare.
hold? as in... holding his .... sword ? :P
I guess you mean OLD. Well, I give him 12
I think the question he was asking was "how old is raki?", if I had to take a guess I would say 15-16 myself.
stormy001_M1A2
2007-10-22, 16:37
There is sparse information as to how old is he but my bet is 13 - 14 years old range.
X_Danny_X
2007-10-29, 13:52
when is the next manga chapter coming out? and i am not talking about the side stories.
i heard it is in november.
King Lycan
2007-10-29, 15:00
Yes It Is In November
romulusx5
2007-10-30, 00:58
november 2, if you want an exact date.
Do you think that Yagi-sensei hypothetically watched the film "The Omega Man" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Omega_Man) to borrow ideas on how to design the characters features when he started to write and illustrate Claymore?
airguitar316
2007-11-01, 15:44
I actually saw the Omega Man last week on some late night cable channel. Not necessarily. It has more a Kurosawa film, namely Schinichin No Samurai' (7 Samurai) and you can observe the rolling hills, villages with few people who mistrust visitors, dense forests etc, IF we are talking about the Claymore-like characteristics.
I can say that The Omega Man's similarities to "hooded characters" or Family' (in the film) is comparable to the watchers or ORg circle, but that's the closest it gets. Post apocalyptic themed movies' have the same formula anyways...a virus or nuclear holocaust wipes out 99.9% of the population and a few survivors duke it out for supremacy.
romulusx5
2007-11-06, 20:15
I actually saw the Omega Man last week on some late night cable channel. Not necessarily. It has more a Kurosawa film, namely Schinichin No Samurai' (7 Samurai) and you can observe the rolling hills, villages with few people who mistrust visitors, dense forests etc, IF we are talking about the Claymore-like characteristics.
I can say that The Omega Man's similarities to "hooded characters" or Family' (in the film) is comparable to the watchers or ORg circle, but that's the closest it gets. Post apocalyptic themed movies' have the same formula anyways...a virus or nuclear holocaust wipes out 99.9% of the population and a few survivors duke it out for supremacy.
thanks airguitar, i saw the movie on dvd last week, charlton heston rocks!
my question: irene lost her arm to priscilla, now i'm not sure if she is offensive or defensive, but offensive warriors can regenerate at a slower pace than defensive warriors, which comes naturally to them.
1) did irene NOt grow her arm because she was pretending to be dead, and there was no time to re-attach her limb? (as per ophelia explanation when she was insulting Clare about "re-attaching her legs or it'll be too late")
2) if that was the case, then irene wont have a problem growing ANOTHER arm because of the fresh cut, and irene explained herself that she will grow it back but will take a couple of "months'. so irene will grow the newly cut arm back, right?
..it's a 2 parter...
Muscular_Sophia
2007-11-06, 20:25
my question: irene lost her arm to priscilla, now i'm not sure if she is offensive or defensive, but offensive warriors can regenerate at a slower pace than defensive warriors, which comes naturally to them.
1) did irene NOt grow her arm because she was pretending to be dead, and there was no time to re-attach her limb? (as per ophelia explanation when she was insulting Clare about "re-attaching her legs or it'll be too late")
2) if that was the case, then irene wont have a problem growing ANOTHER arm because of the fresh cut, and irene explained herself that she will grow it back but will take a couple of "months'. so irene will grow the newly cut arm back, right?
..it's a 2 parter...
To somewhat answer number 1 okay, to regenerate a limp or reattach a limb it requires one to expend yoki in the process and if she did that she would not have been able to play dead. She was an offensive warrior s well so no insta regeneration. So back to my first answer she would have had to spend several months to regenerate her arm back and the whole time she would have had to release yoki. Also offensive warriors have to be pretty good at regenerating to grow entire limbs back and since most claymores don't really spend time to actually train in that most can't do it or they can it just takes even longer than a couple months. ok i hope that answers your questions.
To somewhat answer number 1 okay, to regenerate a limp or reattach a limb it requires one to expend yoki in the process and if she did that she would not have been able to play dead. She was an offensive warrior s well so no insta regeneration. So back to my first answer she would have had to spend several months to regenerate her arm back and the whole time she would have had to release yoki. Also offensive warriors have to be pretty good at regenerating to grow entire limbs back and since most claymores don't really spend time to actually train in that most can't do it or they can it just takes even longer than a couple months. ok i hope that answers your questions.
i want to add tt if u read the manga properly Irene mentioned tt she wud b able to regenerate an normal arm(meaning a human arm), not an claymore arm with superhuman powers(which means if sum1 came hacking at her she wun b able to save herself with some pathetic human arm :(). and perhaps shes juz trying to console and convince Clare since somehow i have the feeling tt she knew somebody was alr hot on her heels trying to get her head when she saved Clare from Ophelia. and i doubt tt she can really make a normal arm, much less a arm, since tt oso means claymore blood will be running thru her normal human arm. if she as much as accidentally release the teenyest bit of yoki into the arm her arm mite not b able to take the pressure and explode??:eyespin:
she'll prolly juz end up with five fingers sticking out of her arm stub, tts all. =.=
HinaThePrince
2007-11-08, 06:17
my question: irene lost her arm to priscilla, now i'm not sure if she is offensive or defensive, but offensive warriors can regenerate at a slower pace than defensive warriors, which comes naturally to them.
1) did irene NOt grow her arm because she was pretending to be dead, and there was no time to re-attach her limb? (as per ophelia explanation when she was insulting Clare about "re-attaching her legs or it'll be too late")
Adding to what Sophia said - Ilene didn't want to grow her arm back. It was unnecessary to her, as she told Clare herself.
2) if that was the case, then irene wont have a problem growing ANOTHER arm because of the fresh cut, and irene explained herself that she will grow it back but will take a couple of "months'. so irene will grow the newly cut arm back, right?
No, because dead people can't regenerate.
deadytwo
2007-11-08, 07:17
erm...not sure if this has been asked but...how did the organisation first get their hands on yoma flesh? cos i mean they cant have been so lucky like priscilla and just happend to catch one off guard and kill it....
Muscular_Sophia
2007-11-08, 07:40
erm...not sure if this has been asked but...how did the organisation first get their hands on yoma flesh? cos i mean they cant have been so lucky like priscilla and just happend to catch one off guard and kill it....
No factual answer can be given at this time about that topic since it has not been stated in the manga or the anime as of this time, but there are some speculations lol.
King Lycan
2007-11-09, 17:21
Adding to what Sophia said - Ilene didn't want to grow her arm back. It was unnecessary to her, as she told Clare herself.
No, because dead people can't regenerate.
We dont know if she is dead or alive :upset:
Twisted Reality
2007-11-13, 20:19
thanks airguitar, i saw the movie on dvd last week, charlton heston rocks!
my question: irene lost her arm to priscilla, now i'm not sure if she is offensive or defensive, but offensive warriors can regenerate at a slower pace than defensive warriors, which comes naturally to them.
1) did irene NOt grow her arm because she was pretending to be dead, and there was no time to re-attach her limb? (as per ophelia explanation when she was insulting Clare about "re-attaching her legs or it'll be too late")
2) if that was the case, then irene wont have a problem growing ANOTHER arm because of the fresh cut, and irene explained herself that she will grow it back but will take a couple of "months'. so irene will grow the newly cut arm back, right?
..it's a 2 parter...
1) That's an entirely reasonable take on it. There's also that whole thing somebody mentioned about her being an "offensive type." (Offensive class characters gain +10% on all attack rolls per level. . .yadda. . .yadda and can't regenerate effective arms.)
2) Of course, Irene could be telling Clare a white lie. It doesn't really matter though, Clare gets a pimped-out berserking arm of doom and Irene makes a noble sacrifice.
Typically, I tend to regard questions like these as being "insignificant details." Claymore doesn't really care much about what makes rational sense so much as what makes dramatic sense. Irene ends up as a warrior hermit. Clare gets the Quicksword. Everybody goes home happy.
If Clare and Priscilla are going to have a showdown, they're going to have it on an active volcano with heavy metal playing in the background. Complete with mosh pit. Ozzy Osbourne will be there. Logic be damned.
Tevourious
2007-11-14, 14:01
I think the reason Irene was missing arm one was two fold.
A she prolly was KO'ed for a long time after that hit Priss laid on her and by time she awoke it was too late to re-attach the limb. Secondly it requires one to expend Yoki to grow back the limb, and it would have been a human limb. If she'd grown it back, she'd have been tracked down. So she had to make do.
As for what she told Clare, it was true to an extent. HOWEVER.
She knew someone would show up to kill her so she told her that to get her to leave.
As for what Ophelia said.
Ophelia is a young Claymore, younger than Clare and she's very much a loner. It may just simply be she was talking out of her ass and never met a Claymore would could regen, no reason to expect them to know everything their Yoki is capable of.
HinaThePrince
2007-11-14, 18:44
We dont know if she is dead or alive :upset:
Raphaela killed her and now she's dead. So yeah.
Devilz911
2007-11-14, 19:51
Raphaela killed her and now she's dead. So yeah.
Maybe she didn't kill her. :)
abcdefghijkLOL
2007-11-15, 21:41
Raphaela killed her and now she's dead. So yeah.
Well, we don't know for sure, all we saw was Raphaela coming and saying she was going to take Ilena's life.
I think the reason Irene was missing arm one was two fold.
A she prolly was KO'ed for a long time after that hit Priss laid on her and by time she awoke it was too late to re-attach the limb. Secondly it requires one to expend Yoki to grow back the limb, and it would have been a human limb. If she'd grown it back, she'd have been tracked down. So she had to make do.
As for what she told Clare, it was true to an extent. HOWEVER.
She knew someone would show up to kill her so she told her that to get her to leave.
As for what Ophelia said.
Ophelia is a young Claymore, younger than Clare and she's very much a loner. It may just simply be she was talking out of her ass and never met a Claymore would could regen, no reason to expect them to know everything their Yoki is capable of.
I think that it IS possible to regenerate, since Riful said Duff was going to take a really long time to regenerate, since he was so strong. And in the Extra's, Rigardo lost an arm, but we see him with two arms at Pieta. Of course, that might be just Awakened Beings.
Devilz911
2007-11-17, 19:39
Anyone know what font they use for "Claymore" title?
zhoutai753
2007-11-18, 02:25
can claymores regen tits? wat if accidently they get hacked off in some battle?
kureshii
2007-11-18, 04:11
Defensive ones probably can, while offensive ones can regen human versions...?
Anyway, I'd think that's considered minor battle damage... they can regenerate abdominal organs, so nipples should be no problem, especially for Claymores like Deneve.
zhoutai753
2007-11-18, 06:52
LOL so are u saying theres a difference between claymore tits and normal tits, like claymore tits got more defence or immunity against pain or some shit. so if some monster tore of a claymores tits it would regenerate completely?
how is it minor battle damage if u rip out a claymores tits, she would be bleeding pretty bad and look funy without tits
i wonder why they dont have much plating for their tits, like when in that cathedral that mosnter poked holes in clares tits and then they got bandaged lol
kureshii
2007-11-18, 07:41
Just kidding... you know how it's explained that an offensive Claymore can only regenerate normal arms and not Claymore ones? ;-)
And anyway, losing a nipple (only the nipple) would probably be surface damage to a Claymore, as opposed to having your stomach poked and messed around with like what happened to a certain Claymore...
zhoutai753
2007-11-18, 07:50
lol, that was stupid the way they torture the claymores, they gotta be more creative. better ways to torture than to mess around with stomach hahaa.
ClaFanN1
2007-11-19, 07:36
Do Sword Grips different colors have any meaning?
For example, Deveve's is green while Miria's is blue.
NoSanninWa
2007-11-19, 14:52
Do Sword Grips different colors have any meaning?
For example, Deveve's is green while Miria's is blue.
No meaning is ever stated or implied in the manga or anime, so it can't be answered here. Sorry.
King Lycan
2007-11-19, 17:08
I Have Question
It Was Stated that Sophia was very strong do u think if she wanted to be pumped up like undine u think she could do it
NoSanninWa
2007-11-19, 23:47
All Claymores have that power. It is caused by youki release. Undine was merely unique for choosing to do it 24/7.
King Lycan
2007-11-21, 15:50
All Claymores have that power. It is caused by youki release. Undine was merely unique for choosing to do it 24/7.
I mean could sh rival the power of her
NoSanninWa
2007-11-21, 22:02
Since Muscular Sophia was number 3 or 4 in her time while Undine was only number 11, and physical strength was Sophia's forte, it is safe to say that Sophia was much stronger than Undine regardless of their physical appearance
King Lycan
2007-11-21, 23:21
well i guess it doesnt apply to noel and miria
King Lycan
2007-11-23, 23:00
Ok wat im trying to do is compare the 2 generations Of irene and Clare's so what i mean is that when u compare
Sophia and Undine Sophia comes out stronger then Undine but when u compare
Noel and Miria Noel was 3 or 4 and miria is 6 and it seems like miria is faster cause she is can leave images of her
GundamZZ
2007-11-23, 23:33
Speedwise, it's not absolute. Miria's supersonic move can barely catch up with Ridgado. And, Rigado doesn't have that fancy move.
When it comes to strength, Sophia can severe object by swinging one time(other than claymores).
Devilz911
2007-11-24, 00:06
Miria is only fast at that particular instant when she's doing the mirage thing. But after time skip she's probably faster than anyone.
NoSanninWa
2007-11-24, 01:27
That's far enough into discussion. Any more to say on that topic will need to be taken to the Claymore Statistics, Power Levels, and Theories (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=56339) thread.
Does Claymore hair grow? :ermm: after seeing how Clare lost her hair in such young age....
QuickSilverD
2007-11-25, 21:08
Are there any Claymore Video games around in any console or PC?
FateAnomaly
2007-11-25, 22:39
Does Claymore hair grow? :ermm: after seeing how Clare lost her hair in such young age....
It can probably grow but Clare just prefer to keep it short.
zhoutai753
2007-11-26, 06:46
she looks better with it short anyway, and in most anime characters tend to have the same hair styles, same length even though their human and their hair can grow. would there be any point in the any anime showing every instance of a chracter having a hair cut?
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/5/11/28/f_Image3m_8822c2f.png
What claymore are the shadowy figures - those could be 3 of the fab 4 or AO?
Exar Kun
2007-11-29, 15:46
IMHO (from left): Deneve, Clare, Helen...
Will chapter 75 come tomorrow or next week?
Fate_Archer
2007-11-29, 22:57
http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/5/11/28/f_Image3m_8822c2f.png
What claymore are the shadowy figures - those could be 3 of the fab 4 or AO?
Oh, that scene in the anime ending...
It reminds me when Claymore started to really grow inside me, I just had finished to read volumes 1 to 6 in one night and the first episodes aired in the same time...
Seeing that scene made me thought about Rubel's quote that the numbers #1 and #2 of the current generation are pretty strong, each generation having its own heroes; and also Miria introducing the top #5 numbers.
When I saw the symbols of numbers #1 to #3, I imagined how freakin powerful they must be.
Then, I watched the ending of the anime for the first time and when I saw this scene, immediately I imagined those shadowy Claymores as the numbers #1 to #3 of Clare's generation.
I really liked to think that way. Good times, good times. :)
But well, it really seems that the shadowy Claymores in this scene are Deneve, Clare in the middle and Helen.
Will chapter 75 come tomorrow or next week?
Next week.
It's on December 4, when Jump Square is released. Next Tuesday more precisely.
Jump Square is released on day 4 of each month.
Can't wait!!! :)
pardon my ignorance.. is jump square published only in japanese? :D
NoSanninWa
2007-11-30, 16:16
pardon my ignorance.. is jump square published only in japanese? :D
That's correct. Jump Square contains the latest chapters of various montly mangas published in Japan. Many of these mangas will never be made into anime or licensed for English language sales.
X_Danny_X
2007-11-30, 19:20
Oh, that scene in the anime ending...
It reminds me when Claymore started to really grow inside me, I just had finished to read volumes 1 to 6 in one night and the first episodes aired in the same time...
Seeing that scene made me thought about Rubel's quote that the numbers #1 and #2 of the current generation are pretty strong, each generation having its own heroes; and also Miria introducing the top #5 numbers.
When I saw the symbols of numbers #1 to #3, I imagined how freakin powerful they must be.
Then, I watched the ending of the anime for the first time and when I saw this scene, immediately I imagined those shadowy Claymores as the numbers #1 to #3 of Clare's generation.
I really liked to think that way. Good times, good times. :)
But well, it really seems that the shadowy Claymores in this scene are Deneve, Clare in the middle and Helen.
Next week.
It's on December 4, when Jump Square is released. Next Tuesday more precisely.
Jump Square is released on day 4 of each month.
Can't wait!!! :)
how long does it take for each chapter to be released? two weeks??? damn, it has been some time since the release of 74
NoSanninWa
2007-11-30, 19:53
It takes a month. If you read the post you were replying to you'd have read, "Jump Square is released on day 4 of each month." That's how often it is released.
rath-vermouth
2007-12-01, 09:56
- Teresa freaked out that gang of bandits that wanted to rape her by exposing her chest. Are all the bodies of the Claymore disfigured/scarred as the result of being half-Youma or was this something unique to Teresa?
I don't think it's unique to Teresa. I think every Claymore has the same scar/whatnot.
I read somewhere in this thread about the location of the scar. IMO, the scar is under that... cloth thingy, the one with their symbol on it. Because whenever one of them get poked by the Youmas and regenerate themselves, they leave holes on the suit and the parts that were regenerated were fine. As in no weird scars. The only part of a Claymore that I have not seen being poked would be between their breasts.
Any thoughts on that?
X_Danny_X
2007-12-01, 18:54
It takes a month. If you read the post you were replying to you'd have read, "Jump Square is released on day 4 of each month." That's how often it is released.
okay thanks, i didnt know that Jump Square releases the Claymore manga.
I read somewhere in this thread about the location of the scar. IMO, the scar is under that... cloth thingy, the one with their symbol on it. Because whenever one of them get poked by the Youmas and regenerate themselves, they leave holes on the suit and the parts that were regenerated were fine. As in no weird scars. The only part of a Claymore that I have not seen being poked would be between their breasts.
Any thoughts on that?
I think in the scene where Clarice was in the North with a team to fight some Awakened Beings, Nina was stabbed in between the breasts by a spike. But that's all they showed... it's possible the scar is there, but then that raises the question if they're stabbed there, and they regenerate it... will the scar still remain?
NoSanninWa
2007-12-01, 21:51
There isn't anything more about the scar that can be said with authority and this is not a discussion thread, so take it to Biology of Claymores (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=48477) where such matters have been discussed until folks were blue in the face.
zhoutai753
2007-12-07, 20:09
Hey ive jst reread some of the manga, and i remembered that claymores smell like yoma. Why didnt cid and galk realise that clare was a claymore when they were searching for yoma that morning.
Devilz911
2007-12-07, 20:42
Maybe the suppression pills helped her. Dunno.
zhoutai753
2007-12-07, 20:50
i dont think the suppression pills would have supressed her smell, otherwise rubel would have said something bout it, i wonder wat yoma smell like
Sassarai
2007-12-07, 20:54
take a guess
1)Smell isnt that strong
2)Only claymores can detect the smell
3)Humans dont know what a yoma smells like.
4)Yomas smells flowers
whatever you like
Devilz911
2007-12-07, 20:55
#1 is most likely.
zhoutai753
2007-12-07, 21:28
so clare would still smell nice
kureshii
2007-12-08, 08:18
Depends on whether she has BO or puts on perfume... you won't be able to smell her "Yoma" smell, remember ;)
zhoutai753
2007-12-08, 08:30
LOL i bet she'd smell nice even without perfume, as if anyone as sexc looking as her would smell bad
jayfoxpox
2007-12-08, 13:41
Maybe thats why raki follows her :D
well what does a yoma smell like?
Twisted Reality
2007-12-08, 20:58
take a guess
1)Smell isnt that strong
2)Only claymores can detect the smell
3)Humans dont know what a yoma smells like.
4)Yomas smells flowers
whatever you like
The human sense of smell is stronger than most people believe. Of course, there is some anecdotal evidence that human brains just aren't as strongly wired for processing such things (we don't usually dream smells).
However, it is possible for humans to actually track things by scent to a limited degree, if my memory serves correctly. It's just that it is considered unseemly to have to stick your nose to the ground to smell out a trail. Understandably, it's a pretty rare skill.
Aside from which, Clare probably has the "usual" smells that she picks up from her daily life. She probably smells of campfire charcoal with a bit of musk. I'm sure you perverts could make a perfume out of that.
I'm sure I could make it quip about Raki and Pavlonian conditioning, but that's too easy.
kureshii
2007-12-09, 02:09
well what does a yoma smell like?
If I knew, I'd be a Claymore ;-) No wait, I'd probably be an AB already, heh...
zhoutai753
2007-12-09, 08:14
Maybe thats why raki follows her :D
LOL raki that lucky bastard.
A q. for those who watch Animae - Wtf is Rigardo blind or something he doesn't have any pupils of eye/
NoSanninWa
2007-12-10, 01:45
A q. for those who watch Animae - Wtf is Rigardo blind or something he doesn't have any pupils of eye/
He's not blind, he's just drawn that way.
chibamonster
2007-12-10, 03:08
2 of the abyssals don't have pupils either. Both Isley and Riful get white eyes. Maybe that's how you know when you are truly powerful; your pupils disappear. It sure would be hard to see where someone with white eyes was looking. Just like someone with reflective sunglasses. Are they looking at me or not?
deathreape98
2007-12-14, 19:05
What manga volume does the anime leave off at?
evil_kenshin
2007-12-14, 19:10
What manga volume does the anime leave off at?
vol.10 is when the anime starts deviating from the storyline from what i've noticed (maybe vol.9 if theres something i missed)
NoSanninWa
2007-12-14, 19:15
What manga volume does the anime leave off at?
Actually that question is a bit complicated since there are some changes from manga to anime. We have a whole thread to explain the answer, but 95% of the information is in the second post here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=1170384#post1170384).
Short answer: Ignore episodes 24-26 since they don't occur in the manga at all. Then start reading the manga with volume 11. Be wary though that there were several differences in the manga which might confuse you if you don't read the long answer. Or else you could just read the manga from the beginning so that you don't get confused.
deathreape98
2007-12-14, 19:43
Thanks. I think I'll just read all of it, to make sure I don't miss any slight things.
zhoutai753
2007-12-14, 19:54
ive jst thought of something
the time when Clare lost her arm, if Irene wasn't around and Ophelia was off her tail (say if Clare had given up on that arm to fool Ophelia), could she have gone to Deneve and get Deneve to chop her own arm off and give it to Clare? Since Deneve is a defensive type warrior, Deveve would have no problems with regeneration.
Given this there would be no problem with any warrior losing limbs. Has this been done before and will it be done in the future?
Anh_Minh
2007-12-14, 20:05
Who knows? It's possible, but hasn't been shown or talked about in the manga.
Still, there'd still be issues of compatibility and such. Half of Deneve's arm strength and speed is a far cry from half of Irene's.
Just wondering, are there any significant changes in the DVD version...added scenes...anything to warrant a download?
Twisted Reality
2007-12-21, 18:24
2 of the abyssals don't have pupils either. Both Isley and Riful get white eyes. Maybe that's how you know when you are truly powerful; your pupils disappear. It sure would be hard to see where someone with white eyes was looking. Just like someone with reflective sunglasses. Are they looking at me or not?
Therefore, the entire point is to make them look like demons or beasts. Inhuman creatures.
If you can't tell what they're looking at, then their motives seem more inscrutable. Alien.
There's your art lesson.
chibamonster
2007-12-21, 20:08
awesome twisted reality! As a kid it always freaked me out how the eyes in a portrait followed me because they were always watching no matter where I went in the room. Although I'm sure a real person with now iris' watching me would be much scarier. I do remember back in Quake 1 when you turned on God mode your eyes go white. White eyes = power :D.
Valerian Mengsk
2007-12-21, 22:04
So that explains why in the manga Berserk, Suts is always drawn with white eyes when he is kicking butt or about to lose/loses all control.:cool:
But does prissy have pupil-less eyes?
Twisted Reality
2007-12-22, 15:34
Well think about it this way.
The world is composed of noise that our brains converts into signals.
Artists are basically people who take noise and manipulate our perception of it in order to create a signal. To communicate an idea.
http://enculturation.gmu.edu/3_2/images/magritte1.jpg
The subtitle says, This Is Not A Pipe.
It is a drawing of a pipe. Or more accurately, a picture of a drawing of a pipe that is really composed of pixels that you are looking at on your monitor.
Good artists usually usually try to imply ideas about their characters in certain ways. This doesn't always have to do with the in-world fact as it does with just expressing ideas to the audience.
mist2123
2007-12-29, 01:23
Is there a plan for season 2? i just started watching yesterday
[thousandmaster]
2007-12-29, 01:46
Is there a plan for season 2? i just started watching yesterday
From my understanding, it's probably a long shot cuz they pretty much messed up the last six episodes. It strayed from the manga and ended it suddenly T.T I hope that answered ur question.
Only the last two episodes went very far from the manga. The episodes before it had to prepare for the final one but it didn't go too far IMO; Not completly like the manga but can be easily overlooked.
Personally, I hope for a second season, but I don't know how are they gonna fix the last reunion part.
The manga started in 2001, and we got the anime in 2007, so you could say a second season is due after 6 years ;P
the last shinigami
2007-12-30, 15:21
What does Yoki mean?
Thanks for answer.
Devilz911
2007-12-30, 15:34
Demon energy, or energy emitted from Yoma.
Voracious Reader
2007-12-30, 15:43
What does Yoki mean?
Thanks for answer.
Normally (in real life) it means a spooky atmosphere, or some sort of perilous supernatural presence, but in the context of anime and manga it usually refers to the life energy of 妖魔 youma / 妖怪 youkai, sort of analogous to the 気 ki of normal people, and like ki in many martial art stories it can be felt in at distance by sensitive people and can be used for various effect like making the user stronger or faster.
妖気 youki is a Sino-Japanese word i. e. composed of two words that ultimately have been borrowed form Chinese many centuries ago, 妖 you (yao) can mean bewitching, evil or demon (and in Japanese also suspicious), 気 ki (qi/chi) is more or less untranslatable (and thus frequently not translated at all), live energy comes close in some contexts but is in the end inadequate.
I've just started watching this series. On Ep 5 atm. How much of the manga does the anime cover? Or is it vastly different from the manga?
The anime stays faithful to the manga up to episode 20 or so then it starts to diverse slowly until it goes completely to a new plot in the last couple of episodes.
The anime covered up to volume 11 of the manga according to Wikipedia.
NoSanninWa
2008-01-03, 19:11
I've just started watching this series. On Ep 5 atm. How much of the manga does the anime cover? Or is it vastly different from the manga?
I've answered this before and I'll answer this again. The thread devoted to answering this question is here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=55320).
I've answered this before and I'll answer this again. The thread devoted to answering this question is here (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=55320).
Well, I am new to this thread and I am sorry if I am asking questions that were asked before.
Anyway, I have a few questions.
First, Claymore rocks!! I read manga and watched anime in 5 days because it is sooo interesting.
I have not experience this much thrill in manga except Naruto, DBZ, and Bleach.
Followings are my question:
1. Why do people compare Claymore to Berserk? I read Berserk little and I didn't like it. It just seem not likable?
2. I know the manga release every month because the creator of Claymore has to do everything by himself. I appreciate his effort b/c his effort makes Claymore better. However, couldn't Claymore be released every week like Naruto? I mean if Claymore is released every week, I think more people would read it. Has there ever been a case where monthly manga became weekly manga? Maybe if we all write to Shonen company?
3. Is Claymore manga & Anime popular in Japan and in the U.S. I know it is but when I go to Youtube and watch Claymore, there are only few comments and view #s. Makes me feel kinda alone? I would appreciate it if someone can give me some sort of data as to its viewer numbers!!
4. Did Claymore made financial success?
5. if Claymore is popular and financial success, that means Claymore will get licensed and aired in Adultswim right? or is it too violent or sexually suggestive to be air in N.A.? But other animes air in N.A. seem violent, if not more, than Claymore. If air in North America, I think Claymore would be as popular as Naruto (maybe)
6. IF there will be live movie, who would be Teresa in ur opinion?
And I want to deny it but Claymore will not have 2nd season. I mean, come on, Berserk anime finished horribly too and its ending was because they had to rush it like Claymore. I believe they didn't make 2nd season of Berserk (maybe I am wrong? "shrug")
I know I wrote a lot. I am sorry to ask too many questions but I am literally burning with question!! ;) Thank you for ur answers!
NoSanninWa
2008-01-07, 03:22
1. Why do people compare Claymore to Berserk? I read Berserk little and I didn't like it. It just seem not likable?Because both are dark in tone and the main character uses a big sword. Pretty superficial reasons actually, but those are the reasons. If you disagree, fine. I disagree also, but this is not the right place to go into a longer comparison of Berserk and Claymore.
2. I know the manga release every month because the creator of Claymore has to do everything by himself. I appreciate his effort b/c his effort makes Claymore better. However, couldn't Claymore be released every week like Naruto? I mean if Claymore is released every week, I think more people would read it. Has there ever been a case where monthly manga became weekly manga? Maybe if we all write to Shonen company?Extremely unlikely. He just doesn't have enough time unless he completely changes the way he writes the book and that would require a drop in quality.
4. Did Claymore made financial success?If the manga wasn't successful they wouldn't have made an anime, but the anime won't really become a money maker until they sell a lot of DVDs.
5. if Claymore is popular and financial success, that means Claymore will get licensed and aired in Adultswim right? or is it too violent or sexually suggestive to be air in N.A.? But other animes air in N.A. seem violent, if not more, than Claymore. If air in North America, I think Claymore would be as popular as Naruto (maybe)This is a statement, not a question. It's all possible, but nothing you say is certain, so it doesn't belong in this thread.
6. IF there will be live movie, who would be Teresa in ur opinion?
This question is speculation and thus doesn't belong in the Q&A thread.
And I want to deny it but Claymore will not have 2nd season. I mean, come on, Berserk anime finished horribly too and its ending was because they had to rush it like Claymore. I believe they didn't make 2nd season of Berserk (maybe I am wrong? "shrug")Those are completely different situations. The ending of Berserk was faithful to the manga while the ending of Claymore had almost nothing to do with the manga. The ending of Berserk was not rushed or original like the ending of Claymore was. This is one more case where it is misleading to compare Berserk and Claymore. (Berserk ended badly simply because that was an awkward place to end the story. Another couple of chapters would have made for a better ending.)
Because both are dark in tone and the main character uses a big sword. Pretty superficial reasons actually, but those are the reasons. If you disagree, fine. I disagree also, but this is not the right place to go into a longer comparison of Bleach and Claymore.
Eh? He said Berserk not Bleach but anyway both protagonists fit.
NoSanninWa
2008-01-07, 16:37
Eh? He said Berserk not Bleach but anyway both protagonists fit.
Typo. :o
chibamonster
2008-01-07, 23:04
Instead of deleting posts from threads that are inappropriate would it be possible to move discussions to correct threads? That way the conversation can go on and we don't have to retrace our steps from ground zero.
We lost a bunch of discussion from the Priscilla Isley thread because we mentioned Teresa. It was even discussed in the thread about expanding the relationship discussions and no one had any objections. It is difficult to talk about Priscilla without mentioning Teresa because the current Priscilla was created because of her interaction with Teresa. A lot of the screen time we have seen with Priscilla was WITH Teresa. Is there any way to retrieve deleted posts?
Valduran
2008-01-07, 23:22
Perhaps these would be better off in an private message or something, but...
I second Chiba's request.
Deleting posts because they aren't EXACTLY related to the title of the topic is heavy handed and somewhat rude, especially considering this is a forum where there are a limited amount of threads. If no one objects to what is being posted, the conversation continues on in a intelligent and civil manner, and doesn't completely leave the topic, then why is there a need for it to be deleted? If it destroys a discussion and ruins the enjoyment of the posters, what is the point of enforcing a rule to that extreme?
If you can't do what Chiba asks, then please use a little more discretion!
NoSanninWa
2008-01-07, 23:59
We lost a bunch of discussion from the Priscilla Isley thread because we mentioned Teresa. It was even discussed in the thread about expanding the relationship discussions and no one had any objections. It is difficult to talk about Priscilla without mentioning Teresa because the current Priscilla was created because of her interaction with Teresa. A lot of the screen time we have seen with Priscilla was WITH Teresa. Is there any way to retrieve deleted posts?It wasn't because Theresa was mentioned. They were deleted because it was the same old "Theresa vs Priscilla - Who is really stronger?" argument that has been kicked around forever. That has nothing to do with the relationship between Priscilla and Isley at all, and it is annoying. I won't save those posts since the argument is everywhere already. Nothing new was said.
chibamonster
2008-01-08, 00:10
Tempest put up some pretty interesting new stuff (at least to me :D), especially about how Priscilla would normally be the main character of any other shonen manga except she got pulled to the dark side. It really made me think. Maybe that too was just the same information again that I hadn't seen before. I don't remember us talking about who was stronger but I can't be sure. I was particularly interested in peoples ideas about Priscilla's development since her awakening and how her battle with Teresa shaped her mentally by collapsing her world view. It really was the inciting incident for the rest of Priscilla's life.
Can the posts be retrieved and put into the Manga thread? If not could we get a warning before deletion so we can move the discussion? Maybe even a "Posts soon to be deleted because you guys are off topic" thread where we can salvage things we find interesting? We can't make threads, and some of the more appropriate threads are rather dead for conversation.
Valduran
2008-01-08, 00:39
It wasn't because Theresa was mentioned. They were deleted because it was the same old "Theresa vs Priscilla - Who is really stronger?" argument that has been kicked around forever. That has nothing to do with the relationship between Priscilla and Isley at all, and it is annoying. I won't save those posts since the argument is everywhere already. Nothing new was said.
Ugggh...unless someone complains about it, you shouldn't be judging what is or isn't annoying. Almost everything I was seeing fresh, intelligent and interesting, and very little of it (if any!!) was related to "Who is stronger?". Last I checked the conversation was mainly about Priscilla's mental condition and speculation on her future, with a few small diversions into the realm of why Priscilla is hated.
I request that you go back and reread the posts you deleted, my memory isn't perfect, but if "Teresa vs Priscilla - Who is really stronger?" is what we've been talking about all along then maybe I need to have my head examined :p
No disrespect intended...I...just get a little frustrated when I see moderators deleting indiscriminately.
(You can delete this post for being off-topic, but make an exception and read before deleting please! :p)
NoSanninWa
2008-01-08, 00:59
I request that you go back and reread the posts you deleted, my memory isn't perfect, but if "Teresa vs Priscilla - Who is really stronger?" is what we've been talking about all along then maybe I need to have my head examined :pRe-read as you suggested. There was more to those posts and I may have over-reacted so I restored them, but please lets not turn the Priscilla-Isley Relationship thread into yet another iteration of "Priscilla vs Theresa Redux."
If you want to reply to me, please do it in the other thread.
cookiekid16
2008-01-17, 22:20
What color is her hair......?
In the Manga the artist colored it in pure platinum blonde, but in the anime isn't it more of a honey/golden blonde? ....what color is it and whats the reason behind the darker color in the anime? was there ever a given reason?
I thought to retain hair color was a sign of weakness but she was listed as a single digit so clearly it had nothing to do with it?
Anyone know the answer?
Valduran
2008-01-17, 22:35
The anime was probably taking liberties. I'd guess Miria has the same pale blond hair they all have. Maybe a little bit darker though...
Twisted Reality
2008-01-18, 01:36
Well, I am new to this thread and I am sorry if I am asking questions that were asked before.
Anyway, I have a few questions.
First, Claymore rocks!! I read manga and watched anime in 5 days because it is sooo interesting.
I have not experience this much thrill in manga except Naruto, DBZ, and Bleach.
Followings are my question:
1. Why do people compare Claymore to Berserk? I read Berserk little and I didn't like it. It just seem not likable?
2. I know the manga release every month because the creator of Claymore has to do everything by himself. I appreciate his effort b/c his effort makes Claymore better. However, couldn't Claymore be released every week like Naruto? I mean if Claymore is released every week, I think more people would read it. Has there ever been a case where monthly manga became weekly manga? Maybe if we all write to Shonen company?
3. Is Claymore manga & Anime popular in Japan and in the U.S. I know it is but when I go to Youtube and watch Claymore, there are only few comments and view #s. Makes me feel kinda alone? I would appreciate it if someone can give me some sort of data as to its viewer numbers!!
4. Did Claymore made financial success?
5. if Claymore is popular and financial success, that means Claymore will get licensed and aired in Adultswim right? or is it too violent or sexually suggestive to be air in N.A.? But other animes air in N.A. seem violent, if not more, than Claymore. If air in North America, I think Claymore would be as popular as Naruto (maybe)
6. IF there will be live movie, who would be Teresa in ur opinion?
And I want to deny it but Claymore will not have 2nd season. I mean, come on, Berserk anime finished horribly too and its ending was because they had to rush it like Claymore. I believe they didn't make 2nd season of Berserk (maybe I am wrong? "shrug")
I know I wrote a lot. I am sorry to ask too many questions but I am literally burning with question!! ;) Thank you for ur answers!
Say what thy wilt, but Berserk is superior to Claymore both anime and manga-wise. I often make the comparison between them because they are essentially the same genre and because Berserk handles its story more competently than Claymore ever could or will.
Basically Claymore gets lazy. Both mangas are works in progress and I found the ending of anime Berserk far more satisfying than the ending of anime Claymore.
Let me explain:
Guts is a the Black Swordsman who goes around killing demons for an unspecified reason. They opening chapters don't really tell you why and he seems pretty shallow as a result.
But it makes sense once you learn about Gut's mercenary life, rise to glory with the Band of the Hawk and subsequent betrayal by Griffith. You see the world from the perspective of peasants who see that the world is shit because nobles are basically too busy scheming to care about them. Even nobles have to worry about backstabbing courtiers and each other. Feudalism sucks. Guts suddenly has a very understandable motivation for getting revenge on the demons. You actually see what makes him tick.
Clare gets a pretty awkward start until the Theresa arc rolls around. Even then, I'm not really entirely convinced that she's growing. Seems like most of the people pushing her upwards are doing more growing than she is. Theresa gives up her life. So does Irene presumably. So does Ophelia for that matter. Clare is abused by a supernatural creature, that in all other cases, has only ever eaten people. Oh and got caught in the crossfire of a bandit raid. And got slapped around by Theresa. That's some contrived nonsense. It's not tragic, just really very annoying. It's only half-a-step away from Mary Sue writing. (Which only makes sense because this *is* a shounen anime protagonist.)
Berserk isn't always that much better but at least minor members of the Band of the Hawk had professions and the peasants have problems beyond *just* the supernatural. And in the very least, they do have peasant characters. (The manga later has prostitutes working in a refugee camp that are more than just throwaways.) I'd say that is at least a couple of degrees more complex. When Zodd shows up, he pretty much blows minds, because he's a direct challenge to the established world view. things like him just don't exist. This is a lot more satisfying. The supernatural in Berserk is a mystery. In Claymore, it's only ever a plot device.
Most of the time, the peasants don't matter. The world is nonexistant. It doesn't explain why bandits are attacking this village. Shouldn't this village be protected by a lord? Why isn't it? The show tells us that Yoma inherit memories. They *know* their body is crying. They occassionally have eccentricities and can do clever things and gain an incredible amount of knowledge. So why isn't there more explanation of Yoma? I suspect they're just a shallow plot device to hand-wave DBZ-ish powers.
Well, guess what? You just lost an interesting story there. A chance to create believable characters beyond NPC#3465 who stands around gawking at the latest Claymore walking into town. In fact, it's almost like they don't have lives outside of the Claymores. Nobles don't fight wars. Peasants don't have any aspirations. It doesn't even seem like they *work.* The bandit leader that Theresa kills? What was he really out for? Random bloodshed? Seems to me bandits want an easy life. It kind of runs contrary to your goal to mindlessly slaughter a village that you can simply leech-off season after season. Claymore is just filled with these shortcomings.
I'm not saying that Claymore is the only piece of fiction that commits this sin. But it just does it takes the ball and runs with it well past the goal. It uses these shortcuts flagrantly because it doesn't have a continuity to preserve. The world is composed of quaint villages in isolated stretches of wasteland without any apparent connection to each other. Hell, the North has a town built right on the pass and it's basically just the same town we've seen before except the villagers are in *parkas.* It's not like there'd be any local differences or anything. Berserk at least lets on that countries fight each other over differences in culture, religion, or territory. Peasants also need to eat, so we can at least assume that most of them till the land instead of gossiping in the square of a wealthy middle-class town. You also have to consider that the Organization is viciously bleeding these towns dry of their wealth, and yet we're supposed to believe that they can afford the houses that they have? Where do they get this sort of wealth when they're virtually cut-off? Do they even have a government? Raki is supposed to represent the peasant's side of the story, but he's woefully neglected cardboard cutout. He's shallower than shallow.
Aside from which, Berserk covers a number of themes more competently than Claymore. Griffith does the "monstrous human" thing way better than the Awakened Ones. He's amoral, but you can't really fault him for any of the things he does, likable even. He's a Joe who wants social mobility. Unlike the rest of the nobles or peasants, he just realizes this more brilliantly than they ever could, which is why he attracts so much attention. It's an inexplicable mystery that this peasant can come out and do amazing things. He's the golden child of destiny. He's a better monster than any other human could only *pretend* to be. (After all, if you want your dream you need to step on somebody else's.) This culminates, logically, into his ascendancy to *the* demon lord. One of five foremost lords amongst his peers. Guts is forced to go on struggling for his life in the muck and dirt, as he always has. ("Man is slave to his destiny" theme.)
Not knocking Riful, Dauf or Isley, but they don't get nearly as much screentime. Oh well.
Valduran
2008-01-18, 01:57
Ehm...don't really think this is the appropriate thread to rant about why something else is better than Claymore. If it was, I'd explain to you how all those things you mentioned aren't important to Claymore because the story Claymore is telling has nothing to do with realism and politics. ;)
Berserk isn't better or worse, it's just different. 'nuff said.
Twisted Reality
2008-01-18, 02:22
Ehm...don't really think this is the appropriate thread to rant about why something else is better than Claymore. If it was, I'd explain to you how all those things you mentioned aren't important to Claymore because the story Claymore is telling has nothing to do with realism and politics. ;)
Berserk isn't better or worse, it's just different. 'nuff said.
Actually, you're wrong on both counts. Here's why:
-This is a Q&A thread. The question asked why we make comparisons for Berserk and Claymore. My reason is that they are both more or less the same genre, except that Claymore is a bit more shounen-ish. Still they both essentially tackle the same themes. They both want to hit that high-note about human suffering, aspiration and all that jazz. They work with similar tropes. (Guts kills big demon with big swords. Clare kills big demons with big swords.) I am also pointing out that just because the asker in question doesn't understand the comparison because he didn't like Berserk doesn't mean that they can't be compared. Even with Berserk coming ahead more favorably. I have done so. In torturous detail more appropriate for an essay than a forum.
-Storytelling is about suspension of disbelief. So yes, the illusion of realism and complexity does matter. You can kill good drama by bad writing. It doesn't mean Claymore isn't entertaining, just not as entertaining as I would have hoped. It's a lot of missed opportunities. Some of us also enjoy a sense greater sense of awe or drama.
The question is, why don't *you* care?
Sure you could accuse me of being a humorless old goat with too much time on his hands. But meh. I mean, what are we supposed to be doing here? If my rant is not to your taste, go read something else.
chibamonster
2008-01-18, 02:32
Bah, I'd like to respond but whenever I do in this thread my posts get deleted so it's not worth it. :(
Does anyone know of any interviews with Yagi about the creation of Claymore? I've read stuff in the back of Angel Densetsu that talked about his work with that series but I don't know much about his work with Claymore.
Valduran
2008-01-18, 03:05
I'd love to take you up on this somewhere more appropriate, but meh...it's all difference of opinion. There would be no satisfying resolution to the arguement, and I really don't enjoy trading hostile words with people who like to take the intellectual high ground. It's such a waste of time. Berserk is quite decent, but for those of us who aren't so grounded in the real world and have an easier time suspending our disbelief, Claymore has alot more of interest to offer. ;)
@Chiba: Unfortunately not. I've been unable to find anything so far :(
NoSanninWa
2008-01-18, 04:19
That's quite enough on the subject of Berserk vs Claymore. The question was WHY comparisons were made and the question was answered. Nobody asked if Berserk was better than Claymore. Even if they had, it wouldn't belong here.
Discussion over.
Was it anywhere mentioned that Claymores DO age after being hybridized until they reach a certain age and then stop or the moment they transform they stop aging?
Knowing the answer to this could spark a new discussion regarding something that has been bothering me for some time :D
Voracious Reader
2008-01-22, 13:48
Was it anywhere mentioned that Claymores DO age after being hybridized until they reach a certain age and then stop or the moment they transform they stop aging?
Knowing the answer to this could spark a new discussion regarding something that has been bothering me for some time :D
Irene says that they mature, but don't grow old.
Forgive my lack of English skills, but does that mean they undergo some physical changes (getting taller, developing bosoms, etc) even after they are hybridized to a certain point then stop?
chibamonster
2008-01-22, 14:22
Not sure if my answer qualifies as speculation, but Alicia and Beth were both taken as infants when made into hybrids. They look like adults now. Teresa changed from when she was a trainee when she met Raphaela and so did Clare since her extra chapter. I have no idea how being a hybrid effects their growth though; whether it speeds up or slows down. It seems they mature and then stop at some point.
Fun question. I hadn't thought about it before. Maybe Miata will eventually grow up then?
The only reason I asked this was to challenge the databooks of stating that the Zemas were hybridized when they were infants (since I believed claymores don't age so how come baby claymores grow up?) to further prove its poor authenticity but brining the Teresa/Clare while trainees DOES prove that they do age up to a certain point since they both aged/matured. Rafaela (being the oldest Claymore we know of up to now) look the same even after all those years so they stop at one point
Thanks for the inspiration ;)
NoSanninWa
2008-01-22, 15:17
Forgive my lack of English skills, but does that mean they undergo some physical changes (getting taller, developing bosoms, etc) even after they are hybridized to a certain point then stop?
That is exactly what it means.
I think Claymores stop ageing when they reach their top, it can be the mature age or earlier. Probably Im wrong, but this is my opinion. ( Sorry for my bad english )
chibamonster
2008-01-22, 17:29
It would make sense that Claymores do mature until a point because Clare was surprised by Irene looking exactly the same as she did during Teresa's time. It seemed like new information to her indicating that she had grown up quite a bit and not realized that claymores don't age after they mature.
*Although if they awaken at any point they seem stuck at that stage of development like Riful or the former single digit Ophelia killed.
evil_kenshin
2008-01-24, 06:35
*Although if they awaken at any point they seem stuck at that stage of development like Riful or the former single digit Ophelia killed.
not always; seems like its by choice; Priscilla seems younger than when she awakened; or atleast looks different somehow
chibamonster
2008-01-24, 06:57
Could be attributed to a change in hair color and mannerisms. Although Priscilla does seem shorter. As best I remember we have never seen a claymore awaken and then go to their non-awakened humanoid form to compare to their previous state except Priscilla. Maybe there is some deeper meaning yet to be revealed?
Jean achieved a full awakening but she returned to her previous claymore form before we could see what her power saving mode was (colored hair + eyebrows?). Alicia and Beth don't qualify as they are special. Priscilla is the only one and her changes might also be because of changes in Yagi's art style over the years or hair color etc. The part of Ophelia's body that was human looked just like her Claymore form but I wouldn't say she really turned off her awakened form either. An awakened beings human appearance changing would bring up a lot of speculation and it is certainly possible, but I'll leave that for a different thread.
evil_kenshin
2008-01-24, 10:05
Could be attributed to a change in hair color and mannerisms. Although Priscilla does seem shorter. As best I remember we have never seen a claymore awaken and then go to their non-awakened humanoid form to compare to their previous state except Priscilla. Maybe there is some deeper meaning yet to be revealed?
Jean achieved a full awakening but she returned to her previous claymore form before we could see what her power saving mode was (colored hair + eyebrows?). Alicia and Beth don't qualify as they are special. Priscilla is the only one and her changes might also be because of changes in Yagi's art style over the years or hair color etc. The part of Ophelia's body that was human looked just like her Claymore form but I wouldn't say she really turned off her awakened form either. An awakened beings human appearance changing would bring up a lot of speculation and it is certainly possible, but I'll leave that for a different thread.
prehaps i guess its possible that it would be harder for say Riful to use an adult human form because she awakened before she became an Adult (so she hasn't really got a form to compare to ; since she never reached adulthood in the first place)
while for Isley; it would be of no benefit to him to appear as a teenager; and being a commander and all suits him being his normal appearance of around 20
Priscilla's state represents her mind i guess, being she thinks she's a kid, she appears somewhat kid like
its probably not something we will ever get the answer on anyway
Reading the Statics, powlvl, theroies theard 2 question conceived in my mind...
1st. Why the Org couldnt find any way to solve that male claymore problem( I mean they come up with that soul link thing but they couldnt made any stable male warrior so how is that?)
2nd. Why youmas prefer human meat? I mean meat~meat why they dont eat animals? Im sure they would made less stir with eating animals. Sorry if these questions are already put up.
1. It's not that the creation of males was a failure technically. It's just that males couldn't resist the pleasure of using yoma power and hence awakened quickly. It was the warriors own problem not the Org's. As for soul link, if you mean using soul link as making all male claymores in pairs, then that's a bit overdoing it since females can do just fine alone and are as powerful as males. It is still under experiment and even on females it's still dangerous so why risk it?
2. Ah, you have to ask the ABs themselves xD Seriously tho, it's their nature. Like vampires can't live on anything but human blood (altho in some variations they do, but it doesn't give them the ecstasy and energy they could get from human blood). If they could, I don't think claymores would have detested the idea of awakening since they can live as human and only feed on animals.
FateAnomaly
2008-01-29, 22:49
1. Soul linking is a "recent" technological breakthrough. You don't expect them to stop producing Claymores while they do their research, do you. Anyway, i don't think twins are all that common anyway. Who knows how many twins have died in the creation of Alicia and Beth.
2. Thats why i feel that Yoma are closely linked to humans just like the vampire and humans example given above.
Anima, first thank you for the info. I feel that thing strange that they cant reach any positive results with male Claymores. If I think of Emita's(?) talk with Galatea he said male claymores are not failures, they are success and compared to soul link I think it was a half success ( think of Raphaela and Luciea ) but they didnt stoped with the attempts of makeing soul link successful. If I think over IMO male Claymores probably would be better warriors than females.
Was claymore #7 in Clare's time ever mentioned? I came across something regarding it was mentioned in volume 9 but for the life of me I can't find anything regarding claymore #7.
Valduran
2008-01-31, 16:36
I believe #7 was the leader of the first northern team that was wiped out. If I am reading this right, her name was Eva.
Windcutter Flora was #7 right?
I believe #7 was the leader of the first northern team that was wiped out. If I am reading this right, her name was Eva.
Correct. Sadly she and her team fallen in the north:(
Windcutter Flora was #7 right?
Not really, she was former #8
I believe #7 was the leader of the first northern team that was wiped out. If I am reading this right, her name was Eva.
Oh... Now I remember.
You know because when I first knew about Claymore, I went through all chapters in extreme rush so I missed many details that when I sometimes reread some chapters become aware of (like in this case). I should reread the whole thing carefully. Thanks. :)
this is gonna sound dumb...and prolly been asked before.
but any news on claymore DVD's
i tried searching but i got like 60 pages.....so.....(before anyone says "use the search button nub"
thx
NoSanninWa
2008-02-04, 22:39
According to YesAsia (http://us.yesasia.com/en/Western/Anime.aspx), DVDs 1-7 (episodes 1-20) have been released and DVDs 8-9 (episodes 21-26) are shipping on March 25.
I hope that is what you are asking because if you're wondering about releasing R1 DVDs... Well when a show is licensed, or if there is even a rumor about it, you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a post on the subject.
lol well i'll def be sure to keep a look out. thx!
btw dunno if it ever says this but what is clares "age"
like ......how old is she "supposed to look/be"
NoSanninWa
2008-02-06, 02:30
btw dunno if it ever says this but what is clares "age"
like ......how old is she "supposed to look/be"
It has been stated that when a Claymore reaches maturity they stop aging. This means a Claymore's appearance has nothing to do with the number of years they have lived.
No number of years has ever been stated for Clare's age. She is probably between 20 and 200, but anything more specific is just speculation.
yeah i figured she looked about 20 years old....raki must be what 15-16? i assume
Voracious Reader
2008-02-06, 09:16
It has been stated that when a Claymore reaches maturity they stop aging. This means a Claymore's appearance has nothing to do with the number of years they have lived.
No number of years has ever been stated for Clare's age. She is probably between 20 and 200, but anything more specific is just speculation.
Considering that Clare found Irene's lack of aging remarkable enough to mention it we can assume that she hadn't experienced it first had, which would make her at the very most about 30 before the time skip.
Stahlwolf
2008-02-06, 09:40
No number of years has ever been stated for Clare's age. She is probably between 20 and 200, but anything more specific is just speculation.
Well-
If that's the case, then Rubel, Clare's keeper, must be anywhere from 35 - 300. It was Rubel who found Clare when she was only 10 or so.
The only thing we do know is that Rafaela, Luciela, Riful, Isley, Ringold, are the oldest so far. We don't know about Agatha's age... nor do I think we ever will.
....
Wait!
Rubel was also Rafaela's keeper... Even before Teresa joined!
HOW OLD IS -THIS- DUDE ANYWAY??!!!
This is creeping me out!
-Augh!
I have a manga question, i've only started to read it because I hadn't had much access to manga much before (except oh my goddess,trigun etc.)
anyways I really liked the TV story about Teresa and "Little clare"
is that in the manga? aswell or is it just a tv only story
They were just 2 cute together lol
Voracious Reader
2008-02-06, 11:46
Everything in the anime except for the the last two episodes and some of the Raki Priscilla scenes is also in the manga.
Nice...I cant tell how old little clare is supposed to be 15-16 i guess....same as raki almost.
also another thing I dont get, in episode 6 all the guys were like "oh i'd do teresa, she's hot etc.."
then she like opens up her shirt(i think) and say fine you can have me if you want a body like this....but it never shows
anyone have a picture? of like what their body looks like.....is it like deformed or what?
and I've watched all the episodes but dont recall it showing.....dont worry tho i dont mind spoilers i just wanna see what she was talking about (since apparently her body is nasty or something?)
chibamonster
2008-02-06, 16:22
We never see what is wrong with a Claymore's torso. We are not even sure where the disfugurement is, or if all have it... blah blah there are lots of speculations but Yagi has never shown it to us. Awakened beings get their original human form back and do not have it any more. I don't know about claymores who are partially awakened. In Clare's dream she has in the slasher's arc Teresa has no disfigurement, but that is a dream not the reality that made several dozen bandits queezy. Whatever it is it looks painful. Very painful. Personally I'm glad we've never seen it because almost nothing yagi could draw would give us the same reaction as those bandits (the only things I could think of would be so disgusting I'd vomit all over my keyboard, which I'm glad hasn't happened because Claymore has never felt gross to me).
Maybe she had 3 frogs heads with eyes rolling on her chest! Hahaha.
Seriously, I think that was a smart choice by Yagi. Giving his reader the chance to imagine the most disgusting thing they consider gross. If he did happen to draw it, some would say it's not that disgusting, some would say it was. I hope Yagi never show us that. I am actually pretty positive we are past this point already.
chibamonster
2008-02-07, 05:00
Hmm, how to phrase this so it isn't viewed as speculation... I know, I will ask a question at the end.
Yagi's last work, Angel Densetsu was all about a kid who was supposed to be terrifying to everyone around him. Enough so that people felt instant fear. But looking at him he never really felt scary to me. I agree with Anima that having the readers use their imagination is much more potent for this situation. Does anyone know of any interviews, comments, or any bits of information from Yagi about his work with Claymore? Maybe I'll just have to buckle down and really learn my kanji and do a search in japanese...
Agree, its better not to show, honestly Im not interested in it. I know it will ruin my current image about her.
GundamZZ
2008-02-08, 00:53
Hmm, how to phrase this so it isn't viewed as speculation... I know, I will ask a question at the end.
Yagi's last work, Angel Densetsu was all about a kid who was supposed to be terrifying to everyone around him. Enough so that people felt instant fear. But looking at him he never really felt scary to me. I agree with Anima that having the readers use their imagination is much more potent for this situation. Does anyone know of any interviews, comments, or any bits of information from Yagi about his work with Claymore? Maybe I'll just have to buckle down and really learn my kanji and do a search in japanese...
The guy from angel legend had the mean looking face. I'm surprise someone doesn't find it scary. It's true that the guy from Toradora! doesn't look scary at all, but it's another story.
The video is the closest video with the author.
It shows his "assistant #3" with skirt view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccouGq5iOis
Voracious Reader
2008-02-08, 11:25
The video is the closest video with the author.
It shows his "assistant #3" with skirt view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccouGq5iOis
Number 3, Kanera of the Flashing Pen :heh:
chibamonster
2008-02-08, 17:50
Yagi giving his assistants numbers is hilarious. I also liked the herb tea + sleeping solution to avoid awakening (if I understood it correctly which I may not have) Someone should tell the Claymores about it. Was this an advertisement for jump square? If it actually was Yagi he's pretty funny.
Voracious Reader
2008-02-08, 18:10
Yagi giving his assistants numbers is hilarious. I also liked the herb tea + sleeping solution to avoid awakening (if I understood it correctly which I may not have) Someone should tell the Claymores about it. Was this an advertisement for jump square? If it actually was Yagi he's pretty funny.
Yes, the same user (jsq 11 02) also posted similar videos for other jsq titles.
I thought Claymore was a sole mangaka work so he really doesn't have assistants, isn't it?
But it sure does sound funny, regardless! :heh:
Stahlwolf
2008-02-09, 02:16
Well-
Most mangaka hire assistants to do the non-essential work, such as inking, backgrounds, and touch-ups. They would sometimes emulate their master's work. It's a great way to gain artistic experience. Some assistants also work on their own doujinshi. It comes to no surprise when you look through a doujinshi and say to yourself, 'Gee. This almost looks like 'Such and Such's' work.... But more naughtier.'
-Rubel's age still freaks me out.
[thousandmaster]
2008-02-12, 21:43
I've been wondering about this for awhile, but do all awakened beings come from claymores? Or can a normal human person become one in some way?
And another thing, is it youma or yoma? Which is correct?
:confused: :confused: :confused:
Voracious Reader
2008-02-12, 22:35
It's 妖魔 in kanji, ようま in hiragana and yôma in Hepburn transcription. The ^ indicates it's a long vowel. Unfortunately people usually drop all diacritica from Hepburn and write just yoma. Which is a travesty and should absolutely not be done. Youma is in waapuro (word processor) romaji, called so because it's what you have to type in roman letters to get it converted into the Japanese characters you want to write. The う above is u, due to historical reasons a long o is usually written "ou" in Japanese. I use that because trying to get people to use diacritica is hopeless and writing long vowels the same as short ones is completely unacceptable.
NoSanninWa
2008-02-13, 03:03
;1396059']I've been wondering about this for awhile, but do all awakened beings come from claymores? Or can a normal human person become one in some way?
All Awakened Beings were once Claymores.
Bashfulz
2008-02-13, 08:59
but then claymore were once humans.. so in a way a normal human can become an awakened being. XD
[thousandmaster]
2008-02-13, 12:35
but then claymore were once humans.. so in a way a normal human can become an awakened being. XD
o.o good point :) lol
I have a lil question about claymore's body.
in episode 5 or 6, there's a bandit that wanted to rape teresa. but after she's shown them her body they were like "oh how disgusting" and they've run away. Is there something disgusting on their body? then i've read the manga. that body of clarice was so nice that miata could even s*** her Ti**? so what's the truth about their body.. ??
chibamonster
2008-02-15, 05:06
We never see what is wrong with a Claymore's torso. We are not even sure where the disfugurement is, or if all have it... blah blah there are lots of speculations but Yagi has never shown it to us. Awakened beings get their original human form back and do not have it any more. I don't know about claymores who are partially awakened. In Clare's dream she has in the slasher's arc Teresa has no disfigurement, but that is a dream not the reality that made several dozen bandits queezy. Whatever it is it looks painful. Very painful. Personally I'm glad we've never seen it because almost nothing yagi could draw would give us the same reaction as those bandits (the only things I could think of would be so disgusting I'd vomit all over my keyboard, which I'm glad hasn't happened because Claymore has never felt gross to me).
We actually just talked about this 1 page ago on this very thread :D. Scroll back a page to see other peoples replies as well. Personally I speculate that the disfigurement is under the neck collar because that is where Teresa opens up and also where Ophelia tastes blood from to see if Clare is awakened or not. But that is just speculation on my part from what I have seen. Really we don't know, but it would seem that for sure Clare and Teresa had it because that has been spelled out literally.
I have a lil question about claymore's body.
in episode 5 or 6, there's a bandit that wanted to rape teresa. but after she's shown them her body they were like "oh how disgusting" and they've run away. Is there something disgusting on their body? then i've read the manga. that body of clarice was so nice that miata could even s*** her Ti**? so what's the truth about their body.. ??
Calrice is a hybrid or what, different, so I dont suggest her to other Claymores.
When Miata tore Clarice's outfit it was done only to the part covering her right breast and we didn't get to see the rest of her torso so it can't be said that Clarice didn't have the disfiguration as well.
Judging by the shapes of all the claymores chests (including Teresa's), I think it's obvious that this disfiguration is indeed under the collar bone and not on the breasts themselves.
I didnt said she dont have, it cant be said she have or not at the moment.
And the biggest Q & A - Is Claymore licensed, the answer is YES by Funimation.
And the biggest Q & A - Is Claymore licensed, the answer is YES by Funimation.
man, that funimation always choses my favorite anime to get their license.
I´ve just finished watching the anime, and now I have a question:
Do the manga and the anime end at the same moment, or is the manga ahead of the anime?
If so, will the anime continue someday?
This question was ask many times:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=46873&page=21
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=55320
I think a lot of these Org guys might be old male Claymores who completely suppress their youki because they know that men have a much higher tendency to awaken.
Stahlwolf
2008-02-17, 04:43
I think a lot of these Org guys might be old male Claymores who completely suppress their youki because they know that men have a much higher tendency to awaken.
..... -
Interesting notion.
You know... That would explain Rubel's age as wondered in this thread: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=1383755#post1383755
Still, Rubel can't be a male claymore since he stated in Scene 64 that he couldn't read yoki.
So how old IS he? Or THEM?
-That still creeps me out
Where he could be lying about the reading youki, since these guys do manage to find and reach the often Claymores they handle(not that they pre-designated meeting places wouldn't explain some of it), it may also be that they use the youki suppression pills on top of suppressing their youki.
The early organization probably stumbled onto the hybridization process and started making lots of hybrids only to find out later that they were turning into monsters. Being terrorized and completely suppressing youki and taking pills on top of that would probably not be that unreasonable.
I was reading a page on wikipedia (link posted by Voracious Reader)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Claymore_characters
Can anyone explain what is meant by the term "sever year time skip" or simply "time skip." I'm going to guess that it was after the Northern campaign and then jumps to seven years later.
Also i'm a bit confused about the term "Northern Campaign." I just read that the Northern Campaign was when he launched an offensive in the city of Pieta, or so I think. But I am also reading that he attacked Luciela and sent forces to Riful too. Are these different campaigns?
*EDIT* on bold! Sorry!
NoSanninWa
2008-02-20, 02:54
I suspect that you haven't read the manga past what was released in the US by Viz, so any answer to your questions is going to spoil you. If you don't care about spoilers, then feel free to keep reading.
The Northern Campaign refers to the war in Pieta where the Organization attacked Isley's forces. It ended rather differently in both anime and manga.
The "seven year time skip" refers to the fact that after the conclusion of the Northern Campaign, there is a 7 year period of time during which the manga does not detail events. After the conclusion of the campaign the manga picks up seven years later.
Agatha is an Awakened Being who is being fought 7 years after the Northern Campaign. I have no idea why you think that she is connected to the Northern Campaign since there is no relationship at all. She never goes anywhere near Pieta.
Anh_Minh
2008-02-20, 02:56
I think he meant Luciela.
I guess i'll think about it before I continue reading.... And sorry for the spoiler thing, I thought that since it was on wikipedia and Voracious Reader posted the page for others to read... I thought all the material was ok to write about. But I see what I did wrong.
NoSanninWa
2008-02-20, 03:05
Since the typo in the question has been corrected, I will continue my answer...
Isley did indeed attack both Luciela and Riful during the Northern Campaign. The ending of the campaign in the manga was VERY different from the anime.
I won't explain how the Northern Campaign dragged in Riful and Luciela since that would be much too spoilerish. If you really want to know, I suppose I'd answer a direct question, but you will hate getting an interesting plot twist ruined for you.
Stahlwolf
2008-02-20, 13:11
Since the typo in the question has been corrected, I will continue my answer...
Isley did indeed attack both Luciela and Riful during the Northern Campaign.
Hey!-
My turn to correct a spoiler quote with spoilers!
Isley did NOT fight Riful. He did, however, send some ABs to fight her, but we know of the outcome of that. As she explains herself in Scene 71, Riful came in to fight Isley AFTER Luciela's instigated battle, but changed her mind when she met HER with him! (And we all know who 'HER' is.)
-"That was fun. Let's do it again!"
NoSanninWa
2008-02-20, 17:17
I didn't want to go into that much detail. I don't like spoiling more than I have to clarify a point. I was correct, just not specific. :(
Strangely it was fun though.
FYI, I've only seen up to episode 8 at this point, and don't want to be spoiled on future events.
In episode 8, Priscilla killed Teresa while telling her to kill her. My question is, was that Priscilla's intention? To trick Teresa and then kill her while she lets her guard down? Or, did her Yoma powers already take over at that point, and she acted against her will?
If this is answered in a later episode, please tell me that instead of the answer. Thanks. :)
Voracious Reader
2008-02-21, 15:27
FYI, I've only seen up to episode 8 at this point, and don't want to be spoiled on future events.
In episode 8, Priscilla killed Teresa while telling her to kill her. My question is, was that Priscilla's intention? To trick Teresa and then kill her while she lets her guard down? Or, did her Yoma powers already take over at that point, and she acted against her will?
If this is answered in a later episode, please tell me that instead of the answer. Thanks. :)
It's not answered. She didn't seem capable of such complicated reasoning at that point so I highly doubt she planned it.
I just read up the chapter 77 in the manga, so no worries on anyone for now. I have a question though.
I don't know the reason as to why Isley is suddenly launching an all out offensive to each part of the world. Anyone know why? I know he went to fight luciela, and sent some AB's to the ORG and Riful, which were annihilated. And he is currently moving southward. Why is he moving south and again what is his motive to attack so many fronts? The south is where the ORG is right?
Anh_Minh
2008-02-22, 20:52
His motive was to fight Luciela to get her territory. He's probably stopped moving after that happened. (Except for moving around in his new Southern lands, I suppose.
He sent people to Riful and to the org so they wouldn't bug him while he was going south, and also to get rid of his subordinates. It's not like he liked being saddled with so many people.
FateAnomaly
2008-02-22, 22:56
Isley went south cos Priscilla wanted a tropical beach vacation.
Anyway, i think the org is to the East if i remembered correctly. Riful is west, Isley is North and Luciela is South.
I was looking at the latest Claymore manga at onemanga.com
and to my surprise I found that Claymore was at 8th place for Most Viewed Manga
while it used to be at 4th.
Is there any reason to it?
Popularity gone down I guess for being monthly manga?
FateAnomaly
2008-02-23, 01:25
Since people only read it once a month, i guess it will drop naturally as a result. I am not sure how the counter work though.
NoSanninWa
2008-02-23, 02:26
His motive was to fight Luciela to get her territory. He's probably stopped moving after that happened. (Except for moving around in his new Southern lands, I suppose.
He sent people to Riful and to the org so they wouldn't bug him while he was going south, and also to get rid of his subordinates. It's not like he liked being saddled with so many people.
A very important detail was left out of this answer.
It was necessary for him to kill at least one Abyssal. By killing an Abyssal he ensured that nobody could defeat Priscilla since it would take two Abyssals to have a chance of success. He simply chose Luciella since he prefered the south.
This still leaves the option of Riful teaming up with the Organization, but he and she both believe that is too unlikely to be considered.
A very important detail was left out of this answer.
It was necessary for him to kill at least one Abyssal. By killing an Abyssal he ensured that nobody could defeat Priscilla since it would take two Abyssals to have a chance of success. He simply chose Luciella since he prefered the south.
This still leaves the option of Riful teaming up with the Organization, but he and she both believe that is too unlikely to be considered.
I read in one of the manga extras,
The extra showed when isley first met priscilla and battled her. Isley lost and made a vow to do whatever she wanted, and her request happened to be to visit where she grew up... which was in the south. I think this is the reason why he decided to go south anyway. But you are also correct about that fact that he needed to take one of them out so that the other two abyssals don't join forces. I think he realized the latter later on though.
What is the artist of the anime, and what else animes are drawn and animated by? I think i saw an anime, like HC, but drawn in very similar style.
chibamonster
2008-02-23, 15:01
Madhouse is the animation studio that made the anime. I think that Vampire Hunter D: Blood Lust looks the most simmilar style wise from their other shows I have seen. They certainly modified some of the character designs (especially from the first few issues) to make them more consistent. Although at times the animation seemed a bit off to me. Especially for those last few episodes where they didn't have the manga to compose their storyboard from... I really did enjoy most of the backgrounds and color schemes they put together. The animation seemed a little dark but from what I have seen from the DVD version it seems to be much more vibrant.
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