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Cyclone
2008-11-01, 10:20
I knew what flashbacl you were talking about what I was saying is that flashback can't be real because we see a Claymore killing that Yoma and we know that it was Teresa who killed that Yoma but it was in a village not in Clare's house and he was hiding behind Clare

You're joking right? Clare came about by divine conception then? The scene I linked to showed how Clare became an orphan when a youma killed her parents and brother. Teresa killed the youma that orphan Clare had been travelling with for a long time. I see no problem with 2 youmas beings in Clare's human life - sucks to be her though [no wonder she joined willingly].

So, are there any other parts of the manga that are fake according to your expert analysis? You know - parts Yagi didn't really intend to spend hours and hours drawing (I'm sure someone had a gun to his head and was threatening him at the time).

MisterJB
2008-11-01, 10:33
You're joking right? Clare came about by divine conception then? The scene I linked to showed how Clare became an orphan when a youma killed her parents and brother. Teresa killed the youma that orphan Clare had been travelling with for a long time. I see no problem with 2 youmas beings in Clare's human life - sucks to be her though [no wonder she joined willingly].

So, are there any other parts of the manga that are fake according to your expert analysis? You know - parts Yagi didn't really intend to spend hours and hours drawing (I'm sure someone had a gun to his head and was threatening him at the time).

Take it easy bro take it easy

I'm not an expert and i'm not pretending to be one. I'm just a fan like you

What i'm saying is very simple:

Clare's flashback:

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/3/36/


What we know that happened:

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/12/25/

As you see the situations are very different, in the first it seemed sthat the Yoma was killed just after he killed Clare's family but we know that he spend a lot of time travelling with her. In my opinios this can lead to 3 different interpretations:

1- Maybe Clare has tryied to forget all the time she spend with the Yoma being abused and that is why in her memory the Yoma killed her family and is killed rigth after that , she remembers the abuse but only barely.

2- Maybe the Claymore that killed the Yoma that is on top of Clare was killed rigth after that by the other Yoma that would travell with Clare from that day foward. So that memory of Clare happens before she met Teresa( this one seems unlikely to me)

3- Or maybe Yagi just hadn't tougth of Teresa by the time he made Clare's memory

Cyclone
2008-11-01, 10:58
Take it easy bro take it easy

I'm not an expert and i'm not pretending to be one. I'm just a fan like you

What i'm saying is very simple:

Clare's flashback:

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/3/36/


What we know that happened:

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/12/25/

As you see the situations are very different, in the first it seemed sthat the Yoma was killed just after he killed Clare's family but we know that he spend a lot of time travelling with her. In my opinios this can lead to 3 different interpretations:

1- Maybe Clare has tryied to forget all the time she spend with the Yoma being abused and that is why in her memory the Yoma killed her family and is killed rigth after that , she remembers the abuse but only barely.

2- Maybe the Claymore that killed the Yoma that is on top of Clare was killed rigth after that by the other Yoma that would travell with Clare from that day foward. So that memory of Clare happens before she met Teresa( this one seems unlikely to me)

3- Or maybe Yagi just hadn't tougth of Teresa by the time he made Clare's memory

You need not quote me the Teresa arc - I am well aware of it. Claiming that this flashback is 'fake' is as silly as claiming that the Teresa Arc is fake. Both were drawn by Yagi.

It cannot be alternative 3 you proposed because Raki was already introduced, and his purpose is act as a bridge between Clare and Pricilla. Pricilla cannot exist without Teresa, therefore Teresa was concieved of at the same time as Raki - ergo before Yagi wrote page 1. The other proof of this is that Teresa (or her head at least) is what makes Clare special and ultimately able to kill whoever the final boss ends up being.

We only know small segments of Clare's childhood. Cramming them together into a matter of days of silly. We see in the flashback a Claymore killing her youma-nized brother. The next page we see the village deciding to kick her out. What happened after that? We have no idea. For example:
- she could have met a youma while trying to get to anoother town.
- she could have been found by a MiB who started taking her east, and she escaped on route only to meet with the new youma.

Basically anything is possible in the interval between being kicked out of her village and when we see her next in the Teresa arc - obviously some time has passed (unless it was her parents abusing her into muteness instead of the youma).

Suggesting that Clare does not remember something like a youma killing her parents and brother acurately though, while remembering all about Teresa, and further suggesting that what Yagi wrote is a lie, is just not convincing to me.

MisterJB
2008-11-02, 05:30
You need not quote me the Teresa arc - I am well aware of it. Claiming that this flashback is 'fake' is as silly as claiming that the Teresa Arc is fake. Both were drawn by Yagi.

It cannot be alternative 3 you proposed because Raki was already introduced, and his purpose is act as a bridge between Clare and Pricilla. Pricilla cannot exist without Teresa, therefore Teresa was concieved of at the same time as Raki - ergo before Yagi wrote page 1. The other proof of this is that Teresa (or her head at least) is what makes Clare special and ultimately able to kill whoever the final boss ends up being.

We only know small segments of Clare's childhood. Cramming them together into a matter of days of silly. We see in the flashback a Claymore killing her youma-nized brother. The next page we see the village deciding to kick her out. What happened after that? We have no idea. For example:
- she could have met a youma while trying to get to anoother town.
- she could have been found by a MiB who started taking her east, and she escaped on route only to meet with the new youma.

Basically anything is possible in the interval between being kicked out of her village and when we see her next in the Teresa arc - obviously some time has passed (unless it was her parents abusing her into muteness instead of the youma).

Suggesting that Clare does not remember something like a youma killing her parents and brother acurately though, while remembering all about Teresa, and further suggesting that what Yagi wrote is a lie, is just not convincing to me.

The, basically the Yoma could even have killed Clare's family in a time she was too young to remember it well and then spend some years travelling with her before being killed by Teresa

Blueberry Blaster
2008-11-03, 02:30
Woah... how did this end up from beginning as a question about Clare recognising Priscilla's Yoki to Clare's past? :confused:

And not to butt in or anything (MisterJB and Cyclone) but the way I remember it is that:

1. Clare's parents are killed by a Yoma that had disguised itself as her brother. Evidenced by the tears that are running down the Yoma's face before it is killed by a Claymore, most likely not Teresa.
2. Clare is kicked out of the village.
3. (Hypothesis) Clare wanders around and is eventually found by the Yoma that makes her follow him around abuses her for, say, around about a year, or at least several months.
4. Teresa comes to save the day!!! :D

This is just my opinion.

pozaveche
2008-11-03, 08:14
Guys...i didn't have the pacience to read all the threads...so if i repeat a question...i'm sorry.... Now can anyone tell me what are the men in black?...i know their purpose and all that stuff (i read the manga 4 times and saw the anime 2 times) but what species are they (theiy are not yoma...that's for sure, neither male claymore... awekened...little chance...and since they don't age...not human). The best i could come up with is that they are something that gave birth to yoma (the genetic base) but that is far fetched...the answer is not in the manga (i know it for sure)...has everyone read anything?.....i've just registered so bear with me.

MisterJB
2008-11-03, 13:26
Guys...i didn't have the pacience to read all the threads...so if i repeat a question...i'm sorry.... Now can anyone tell me what are the men in black?...i know their purpose and all that stuff (i read the manga 4 times and saw the anime 2 times) but what species are they (theiy are not yoma...that's for sure, neither male claymore... awekened...little chance...and since they don't age...not human). The best i could come up with is that they are something that gave birth to yoma (the genetic base) but that is far fetched...the answer is not in the manga (i know it for sure)...has everyone read anything?.....i've just registered so bear with me.


Welcome to the forum and that has yet to be told

MisterJB
2008-11-04, 11:05
Alrigth, let's try to start a new debate around here.

I don't know if this was ever pointed by someone but:

The Organization doesn't seem to undertasnd on vital point in the Claymore making process.

They use dead Yoma to make Claymores because Yoma are in generally stronger than human, rigth?

Then, what they should use instead is the flesh of dead Claymores, it would probrably make much stronger Claymores.

A good example is Clare, a warrior ranked number 47 but she could beat guys like Rigardo, a former number 2. And i know she had to Awaken almost all of her body but still a number 47 beating a number 2 should be impossible.

What do you guys think?

xeratal
2008-11-04, 22:39
Alrigth, let's try to start a new debate around here.

I don't know if this was ever pointed by someone but:

The Organization doesn't seem to undertasnd on vital point in the Claymore making process.

They use dead Yoma to make Claymores because Yoma are in generally stronger than human, rigth?

Then, what they should use instead is the flesh of dead Claymores, it would probrably make much stronger Claymores.

A good example is Clare, a warrior ranked number 47 but she could beat guys like Rigardo, a former number 2. And i know she had to Awaken almost all of her body but still a number 47 beating a number 2 should be impossible.

What do you guys think?

Um..... the flesh inside of Clare is the flesh of the most powerful being in the entire history of Claymore, both past and current. So it is not just any claymore's flesh that makes her that way lol, it is Teresa.

shelter
2008-11-05, 11:30
Then, what they should use instead is the flesh of dead Claymores, it would probrably make much stronger Claymores.


I would think dead Claymores would be a rarity. Most seem to awaken, becoming ABs which are costly to hunt & exterminate. And up until the story as we know it begins with Clare & Raki, there were few, if not an insignificant number of, warriors killed in action to allow such fusion of flesh on a large scale.

And, if your theory is correct, shouldn't the flesh of ABs be the most ideal choice? Because they are much stronger than yoma & represent a Claymore when he/she has exceeded her own ability to withstand yoki?

MisterJB
2008-11-05, 12:30
Xeratal: But the rule should aply to all Claymores, if someone killed Miria and used her flesh to make a Claymore, then the CLaymore would have the potencial to use the phantom speed for example.

Shelter: I think that in a hunt of an AB, it was very usual for Claymores to get killed and as Ab don't eat Claymore's guts it shouldn't be too hard to find the bodys.
But the problem with Ab flesh is that the Claymore who got the flesh of an Ab should have the urge to Awaken much stronger than a regular Claymore.

I think it's something like this:

Human+Yoma=Stronger Human

Human+Stronger Human=Much Stronger Human

cTina
2008-11-05, 12:55
Okay, I'm not too sure if this question has already been addressed or not, but this is about the claymore named Rakel/Raquel. Does the databook actually put a face with this name? http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr20/ctina08/Claymore/rakel.jpg That is the girl that is assumed to be Rakel/Raquel. However, I found an inaccuracy in this. http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr20/ctina08/05.jpg Notice that Jean is looking at the stain of where Katea used to be and the girl dead and full of holes while saying these names. Jean doesn't have any knowledge of what happened to the girl that escaped, although she COULD assume that she died. So, it is my belief that the girl in the corner is really Rakel/Raquel. Unless. of course, someone can provide proof otherwise...?

I know this is a really minor question, but it's bugging the crap out of me. :uhoh: Please let me know if you find anything about this.

hell88
2008-11-05, 13:03
I don't think anyone has ever looked into this, my thoughts on it was that Jean knew that the other warrior probably lived but most likley died, and on her travels with Clare, Clare probably told Jean what happened if Jean asked her or something like that.

MisterJB
2008-11-05, 13:10
I've no idea, sorry, it's probrably a plot error but now that we are talking about the witch's maw then let me say this; when Galatea appears, she picks Clare and if Dauph hadn't stopped her, she would leave Jean as a prisoner of Riful. So, Galatea didn't cared about Jean at all.

hell88
2008-11-05, 13:15
I've no idea, sorry, it's probrably a plot error but now that we are talking about the witch's maw then let me say this; when Galatea appears, she picks Clare and if Dauph hadn't stopped her, she would leave Jean as a prisoner of Riful. So, Galatea didn't cared about Jean at all.

Thats true, Jean would be an awakened being and part of Riful's army right now if that had happened.

cTina
2008-11-05, 13:22
I don't think anyone has ever looked into this, my thoughts on it was that Jean knew that the other warrior probably lived but most likley died, and on her travels with Clare, Clare probably told Jean what happened if Jean asked her or something like that.

I've no idea, sorry, it's probrably a plot error but now that we are talking about the witch's maw then let me say this; when Galatea appears, she picks Clare and if Dauph hadn't stopped her, she would leave Jean as a prisoner of Riful. So, Galatea didn't cared about Jean at all.

Thanks anyway :D

Cyclone
2008-11-05, 22:24
Hunting parties are usually groups of 4. I always considered Katea and Raquel were the 2 that died in the room with Riful, and a 3rd un-named Claymore was the one that died in Clare's hands.

shelter
2008-11-06, 11:04
Hunting parties are usually groups of 4. I always considered Katea and Raquel were the 2 that died in the room with Riful, and a 3rd un-named Claymore was the one that died in Clare's hands.

That would be the most likely scenario. Otherwise Yagi is just tapping on the knowledge of the reader: assuming Rakel/ Raquel died in Clare's arms & Katea awakened, we're just treated to Jean's thoughts subject to what we know. That dead warrior is the unnamed Claymore.

Actually, this is quite a substantial error...Didn't know why I never noticed it before.

Cyclone
2008-11-06, 23:21
That would be the most likely scenario. Otherwise Yagi is just tapping on the knowledge of the reader: assuming Rakel/ Raquel died in Clare's arms & Katea awakened, we're just treated to Jean's thoughts subject to what we know. That dead warrior is the unnamed Claymore.

Actually, this is quite a substantial error...Didn't know why I never noticed it before.

What error? I don't recall the manga ever putting a face to the name either. Did I miss something?

shelter
2008-11-07, 07:35
What error? I don't recall the manga ever putting a face to the name either. Did I miss something?

Hmmm...:confused:

You're probably right: because I'm not exactly sure where Rakel's name became associated with the dying warrior Clare met. Can someone check if her name was mentioned in the Anime? Because if it was, it would solve our search for her mistaken identity.

If the Anime doesn't reveal anything either, then I think I was influenced by this Wikipedia article on Claymore characters that apparently clarifies who Rakel is:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Claymore_characters

Hope this clears things up a bit.

hell88
2008-11-07, 11:17
Hey guys, didn't we create the Rakel name from the Raki disscussion because we were talking about what would happen to Raki if he ended up with Rachel.:heh:

Ancient Soul
2008-11-11, 19:30
I've no idea, sorry, it's probrably a plot error but now that we are talking about the witch's maw then let me say this; when Galatea appears, she picks Clare and if Dauph hadn't stopped her, she would leave Jean as a prisoner of Riful. So, Galatea didn't cared about Jean at all.

Thats true, Jean would be an awakened being and part of Riful's army right now if that had happened.

..saying that Galatea didn't\don't care about her camarades (in general) and Jeane (in particular)...i have to :bash: you two :p

Galatea was already busy "nursing" Teresa's daughter Clare who gave her problems all the time : had to save her from Dauf's hands, she don't eat enough, then stop her from awakeneing two times, tried to prevent her from attacking Riful (if you notice that was the main objective of Galatea all the fight - don't fight Riful). :heh:


To the point :

To be honest Clare didn't cared for Jeane in particular.She didn't know that was Jeane until Galatea told her that she has to save Nr. 8.HER CARE was for a <camarade>.Same for Galatea when she entered Witch's Maw.If she didn't cared she may have chosed to stay put and and wait for Clare and Jeane do die awaken and return with the report to The ORG : Mission Complete without any effort...next mission please!Instead she put herself in danger in an attept to save\do what she could.

Unlike Jeane and Clare she know who lived there : ABYSSAL RIFUL...and her "teddy bear" Dauf.Galatea always was calculated and most likely thought that she has barely enough chances to save Clare.Just because he didn't try to help at first Jeane don't mean she didn't care, is just that Galatea wasn't strong\capable enough in the given situation to do anything to help her.

Also a few observation :

1. When Galatea report Jeane and Clare death, The ORG didn't belived her so they know that Galatea's wasn't so heartless.(to just let her camarades to die).
2.Alicia NR1 was at that momment barely able to do 50% damage to Riful.To ask Galatea to go against Riful is to much.
3.Galatea was at blank range to Jeane.Since she is an EYE and also can read emotions she know all the time Jeane mental status.I doubt she was impassible to Jeane suffering just below her.Jeane was already in the middle of the awakening process for what Galatea didn't know any cure...until she tried to save Clare.

NOTE : When Riful see Jeane well with Clare she was surprised that Clare "turned her back"(Riful : "Oh...You...I thought you have awakened?...).So when Riful pop-up behind Galatea at first, Jeane was already in her awakening process.Sure that Jeane would awaken Riful left her to see the fight above.Otherwise her remark would be pointless.My assumption that Jeane was close or past her limits when Galatea entered Witch's Maw.For Galatea at that moment Jeane was "dead".

Galatea was UNABLE to help Jeane at first.Only after a few rule changes in the game was ABLE do do something :

1.Riful decided not to fight.
2.Galatea learned that can turn back from awakening a camarade with her manipulation.
3.Jeane was left alone by Riful.

Galatea knowed that Jeane was already beyond her limits but not awakened yet.
...so Galatea send Clare to help Jeane...or to kill her if she already awaken.
Luckly Clare is a copy claymore!

Both Jeane and Clare (and in the future not only them) are in debt to Galatea for using yoki manipulation for the first time to allow a claymore to turn back from across their limits with the help of a camarade.

At least for this "breaktrought" Galatea deserve thanks...

Galatea did ALL she could to help Clare and Jeane.

Calculate every chance, used all her abilities and used any opportunity in order to allow them to survive.Went near his limits.Created a new application for yoki manipulation to help her camarades.

She also respected Jeane and Clare decision not to follow her back to The ORG.In the end puts herself in danger to be purged just to allow Clare and Jeane enjoy a few moments of freedom.Jeane herself said : (Chapter 49 page 28) : "Thanks.We owe for this one, Galatea!".Next page Galatea ask them to stay ALIVE until they meet again.

So Galatea CARED. ;)

MisterJB
2008-11-12, 12:48
..saying that Galatea didn't\don't care about her camarades (in general) and Jeane (in particular)...i have to :bash: you two :p

Galatea was already busy "nursing" Teresa's daughter Clare who gave her problems all the time : had to save her from Dauf's hands, she don't eat enough, then stop her from awakeneing two times, tried to prevent her from attacking Riful (if you notice that was the main objective of Galatea all the fight - don't fight Riful). :heh:


To the point :

To be honest Clare didn't cared for Jeane in particular.She didn't know that was Jeane until Galatea told her that she has to save Nr. 8.HER CARE was for a <camarade>.Same for Galatea when she entered Witch's Maw.If she didn't cared she may have chosed to stay put and and wait for Clare and Jeane do die awaken and return with the report to The ORG : Mission Complete without any effort...next mission please!Instead she put herself in danger in an attept to save\do what she could.

Unlike Jeane and Clare she know who lived there : ABYSSAL RIFUL...and her "teddy bear" Dauf.Galatea always was calculated and most likely thought that she has barely enough chances to save Clare.Just because he didn't try to help at first Jeane don't mean she didn't care, is just that Galatea wasn't strong\capable enough in the given situation to do anything to help her.

Also a few observation :

1. When Galatea report Jeane and Clare death, The ORG didn't belived her so they know that Galatea's wasn't so heartless.(to just let her camarades to die).
2.Alicia NR1 was at that momment barely able to do 50% damage to Riful.To ask Galatea to go against Riful is to much.
3.Galatea was at blank range to Jeane.Since she is an EYE and also can read emotions she know all the time Jeane mental status.I doubt she was impassible to Jeane suffering just below her.Jeane was already in the middle of the awakening process for what Galatea didn't know any cure...until she tried to save Clare.

NOTE : When Riful see Jeane well with Clare she was surprised that Clare "turned her back"(Riful : "Oh...You...I thought you have awakened?...).So when Riful pop-up behind Galatea at first, Jeane was already in her awakening process.Sure that Jeane would awaken Riful left her to see the fight above.Otherwise her remark would be pointless.My assumption that Jeane was close or past her limits when Galatea entered Witch's Maw.For Galatea at that moment Jeane was "dead".

Galatea was UNABLE to help Jeane at first.Only after a few rule changes in the game was ABLE do do something :

1.Riful decided not to fight.
2.Galatea learned that can turn back from awakening a camarade with her manipulation.
3.Jeane was left alone by Riful.

Galatea knowed that Jeane was already beyond her limits but not awakened yet.
...so Galatea send Clare to help Jeane...or to kill her if she already awaken.
Luckly Clare is a copy claymore!

Both Jeane and Clare (and in the future not only them) are in debt to Galatea for using yoki manipulation for the first time to allow a claymore to turn back from across their limits with the help of a camarade.

At least for this "breaktrought" Galatea deserve thanks...

Galatea did ALL she could to help Clare and Jeane.

Calculate every chance, used all her abilities and used any opportunity in order to allow them to survive.Went near his limits.Created a new application for yoki manipulation to help her camarades.

She also respected Jeane and Clare decision not to follow her back to The ORG.In the end puts herself in danger to be purged just to allow Clare and Jeane enjoy a few moments of freedom.Jeane herself said : (Chapter 49 page 28) : "Thanks.We owe for this one, Galatea!".Next page Galatea ask them to stay ALIVE until they meet again.

So Galatea CARED. ;)

Jesus, we got hit with a hammer and it hurts very much:)

I understand you are a fan of Galatea and I respect that. She is on my top 10.

But the truth is that she was ready to leave Jean in there.
Yes, she was up against an Abyssal One and yes, Jean was almost Awakening but still she was a little selfish.
Clare, Miria, Helen and Deneve faced Riful to save two Claymores who probrably are going to become their enemies in the future.

Still, she was very brave to bring Miata and Clarice to Rabone just to kill Agatha

Cyclone
2008-11-13, 02:06
Jesus, we got hit with a hammer and it hurts very much:)

I understand you are a fan of Galatea and I respect that. She is on my top 10.

But the truth is that she was ready to leave Jean in there.
Yes, she was up against an Abyssal One and yes, Jean was almost Awakening but still she was a little selfish.
Clare, Miria, Helen and Deneve faced Riful to save two Claymores who probrably are going to become their enemies in the future.

Still, she was very brave to bring Miata and Clarice to Rabone just to kill Agatha

In a manga like Bleach, leaving someone behind is indeed a bit selfish and cowardly as none of the good guys there seem to actually be capable of dying. This, however, is Claymore.

In real life and in Claymore, picking fights you cannot win is stupid, not brave. For example, say you can't swim and you're at the beach and see someone drowning. Is it brave to dive in after them? I would argue no. Firstly, your chances of helping the victim is minimal, and more importantly, the odds are high you'll be drowning very quickly too and thus also in need to help. Thus, any person who can swin will have 2 drowning bodies to fish out instead of one - doubling their work load. In that situation, running away to fetch someone who can swim is probably the best course of action.

Consider the consequences of Galatea trying to help Jean and failing before you judge her. The organization loses their number 3 Claymore. The Organization loses their eye. Galatea will be tortured into awakening creating an uber powerful awakened being who may or may not side with Riful. The hunting of this new awakened being will require more of the Organization's resources, cost human lives as both food for the awakened being, and as sacrifices to the Organization in little girls who are to become new Claymores to fill her spot.

Keeping in mind she knows all this, and also knows that her chances of success are pretty much 0%, how can you say the responsible course of action is to fight?

Discretion really is the better part of valor sometimes.

We, the Acolytes of Galatea, understand this about our Goddess, thus we the enlightened can appriciate the perfection of her reasoning. So please, study her teachings, before commiting more blasphemy.

chibamonster
2008-11-13, 02:42
I agree with Cyclone. Galatea going after Jean is suicide. It is only after Galatea confirms that Riful is not going to interfere that she rethinks her plan to involve Jean. Her initial plan to escape with Clare was still super risky as she didn't know Riful's intentions. Going in to help Clare is incredibly brave. Really Galatea should have run away the second she sensed Riful. But with her praise of Riful's youki suppression, she may not have known until she was already in the witches maw. Fact: Galatea keeping her cool is incredibly attractive.

TeresaFaintSmile
2008-11-16, 08:38
Would someone tell me if they have an idea about this?
I'm a really big fan of Claymore and I wanna know if there is already a season 2 of it.
and who's that other person!?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/enigmaceres4ever/irene.jpg

BishounoTeresa
2008-11-16, 09:41
Would someone tell me if they have an idea about this?
I'm a really big fan of Claymore and I wanna know if there is already a season 2 of it.
and who's that other person!?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/enigmaceres4ever/irene.jpg

That is from "Blood +" second season I think; it's just a coincidence that the girl sitting in the tree is also called Irene, and if memory serves well I think that the other person in the screenshot, regardless of his hairstyle, was a guy; can't remember his name though...

Newhope
2008-11-16, 09:44
Would someone tell me if they have an idea about this?
I'm a really big fan of Claymore and I wanna know if there is already a season 2 of it.
and who's that other person!?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b300/enigmaceres4ever/irene.jpg

There isn't nor is there likely going to be a second season.

Ryuken
2008-11-17, 23:21
There was also one called "Blood - The last vampire", if I remember correctly that is.:)

muk
2008-11-20, 06:25
anyone has any new on the claymore ovas?

Spectacular_Insanity
2008-11-20, 07:21
To be honest Clare didn't cared for Jeane in particular.She didn't know that was Jeane until Galatea told her that she has to save Nr. 8.HER CARE was for a <camarade>.Same for Galatea when she entered Witch's Maw.If she didn't cared she may have chosed to stay put and and wait for Clare and Jeane do die awaken and return with the report to The ORG : Mission Complete without any effort...next mission please!Instead she put herself in danger in an attept to save\do what she could.

Not that I care about your guys' argument or anything, but just so you know, Jeane was No. 9, Flora was No. 8.

GundamZZ
2008-11-23, 00:10
anyone has any new on the claymore ovas?

Before believing there is ova, you must believe it's what Clare's body looks like.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9656/hclarebv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/hclarebv2.jpg/1/w361.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img208/hclarebv2.jpg/1/)

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Midori-chan89
2008-11-23, 09:53
Does anyone know what Hilda's ranking is? before she awakened?

hell88
2008-11-23, 10:00
Does anyone know what Hilda's ranking is? before she awakened?

Hey wasn't she the former number six? I think she was.

MisterJB
2008-11-23, 10:16
Does anyone know what Hilda's ranking is? before she awakened?

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/73.2/03/

Midori-chan89
2008-11-23, 10:22
Hey wasn't she the former number six? I think she was.

http://www.onemanga.com/Claymore/73.2/03/

Thanks a lot :D

MisterJB
2008-11-23, 13:22
Has the english dub already come out?

Midori-chan89
2008-11-23, 13:53
Has the english dub already come out?

Dubs, I don't like them :(

hell88
2008-11-23, 16:27
Has the english dub already come out?

Only the first five episodes, I haven't seen them yet. I really don't think this show will air anywere else than where it already has because there just isn't enough episodes.:(

MisterJB
2008-11-23, 16:33
Only the first five episodes, I haven't seen them yet. I really don't think this show will air anywere else than where it already has because there just isn't enough episodes.:(

So no Ophelia and Miria yet:(

Spectacular_Insanity
2008-11-23, 20:13
Has the english dub already come out?

I can't imagine them being any good.

MisterJB
2008-11-24, 17:56
I can't imagine them being any good.

I've found them on Youtube, just search for "Man, she has a huge...sword" and you should find them.

They are actually preety good

BishounoTeresa
2008-11-25, 05:31
I found them too :heh: Raki's voice is like...:heh: awefull, geez I hate the english dub...it's not that bad,well except for Raki, he sounds like a pussy, not that he isn't , but I liek the japanese better.

Midori-chan89
2008-11-25, 08:41
I really can't imagine them in dubs, Teresa, Galatea, Miria, Raphaela (yeah, I know that she didn't talk much in the anime, but still...) I can never get myself to watch it in dubs :(

BishounoTeresa
2008-11-25, 08:48
I really can't imagine them in dubs, Teresa, Galatea, Miria, Raphaela (yeah, I know that she didn't talk much in the anime, but still...) I can never get myself to watch it in dubs :(

Teresa's dub is awefull in my opinion, I don't like it at all! Clare's too...

MisterJB
2008-11-25, 09:19
Teresa's dub is awefull in my opinion, I don't like it at all! Clare's too...

Clare and Raki's dub sucks, that's true. Clare sound like 30 year old.
But I actually like Teresa.
Haven't listen to Rubel, Galk and Sid yet

BishounoTeresa
2008-11-25, 09:45
Clare and Raki's dub sucks, that's true. Clare sound like 30 year old.
But I actually like Teresa.
Haven't listen to Rubel, Galk and Sid yet

Galk and Sid were, well average, Rubel was laaame...

hell88
2008-11-25, 11:00
I don't like any of the dubs so far, they all sound lame to me.

MisterJB
2008-11-25, 11:36
Oh God. Rubel's voice. Somebody please shoot him while he still has some dignity left

Midori-chan89
2008-11-25, 14:05
Oh God. Rubel's voice. Somebody please shoot him while he still has some dignity left

That's the reason ^ why I never listen to dubs (but sometimes there are some good dubs, but that's rare)

clarakiss~
2008-11-25, 15:06
yesterday was the first time i was watching the english dub version and it was badd~d. T.T i only watched up to ep 2 and i was done. i rented the dvd, hoping the eng dub would be good but it was not. :uhoh:

PrinzkO
2008-11-28, 08:43
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Z36-sGD9qp4&feature=related
this trailer is really awesome.
the voices are extremely cool. but "clare" = "voilet" ?? wtf ^^

but in the real series ... it sucks

Newhope
2008-11-28, 10:10
The dubs aren't that bad I was expecting alot worse, saying that once you've watched the japanese version the english voice acting just sound corny.

Anima
2008-11-29, 15:54
Ultra Violet!? WTH?
I'd really love to hear the impression of a new comer who's this trailer was his first to see about Claymore. I thought it was a bit spoiler-ish. I dunno.

Have they done the whole season yet?

MisterJB
2008-11-29, 16:08
Ultra Violet!? WTH?
I'd really love to hear the impression of a new comer who's this trailer was his first to see about Claymore. I thought it was a bit spoiler-ish. I dunno.

Have they done the whole season yet?

If you're talkin about Claymore they only did five episodes

chibamonster
2008-11-29, 16:51
Lol. Ultraviolet was a horrible movie. I saw it at a dollar theater and I still felt ripped off. Incredible. Almost like the last few episodes of Claymore where I felt ripped off from even having spent the time and storage space to download them...

MisterJB
2008-11-29, 18:16
download them...

where did you do that?

hell88
2008-11-29, 18:16
Lol. Ultraviolet was a horrible movie. I saw it at a dollar theater and I still felt ripped off. Incredible. Almost like the last few episodes of Claymore where I felt ripped off from even having spent the time and storage space to download them...

I feel the same way.:heh:

chibamonster
2008-11-29, 21:08
I use torrents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client) to download series that are coming out. There are even torrents listed on animesuki: http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26

Torrents really are the best way if you want to watch any decent quality of (unlicensed) anime and usually it is translated. There are how to use torrent guides all over the net if you need help with it. There are even some on this forum.

Vinak
2008-11-30, 19:10
I use torrents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client) to download series that are coming out. There are even torrents listed on animesuki: http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26


*cough* http://www.animesuki.com/ *cough*

Cyclone
2008-11-30, 23:19
*cough* http://www.animesuki.com/ *cough*

Never heard of it...

delay
2008-12-01, 00:09
Characters that suddenly been added seems to be somewhat interesting yet they don't show too much profile on them

TeresaFaintSmile
2008-12-01, 03:51
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Z36-sGD9qp4&feature=related
this trailer is really awesome.
the voices are extremely cool. but "clare" = "voilet" ?? wtf ^^

but in the real series ... it sucks



That is not the eng dub >_<

here is claymore ep1 eng dub ---> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfnoph8s6G8

KillerYomaFromSpace
2008-12-01, 04:14
I thought there couldn't be anyone more annoying than the anime Raki, but that one is even likeable compared to the english dubbed Raki

TeresaFaintSmile
2008-12-01, 04:45
here's my idol Teresa in eng dub in action !!!

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=kUz2SCAmpkg

Vinak
2008-12-01, 04:59
ehhh...sorry that is just terrible voice acting imo.

Cyclone
2008-12-01, 10:37
Lol - I own the DVD, yet I just watched the dub for the first time on youtube. heh. Ah well - whatever.

In terms of voice acting per se, Teresa's not too bad - she's supposed to be cold sounding at first (Raki on the other hand is EVEN WORSE than the japanese one [I didn't think that was possible]). The real problem though was the script. The lines everyone was saying didn't feel organic, and worse yet, there are places the meaning was slightly re-worked for no reason at all. For example, when Teresa is killing the 7 youma and about to kill the 7th, the japanese version has her going basically: "how many is that... 1... 2...3 ... 4... 5... 6... but I sensed 7. Oh no what will I do if I can't find it? Hmmm... Whatever will I do? JUST KIDDING [#7 dead]". She was just goofing off in another words. In the english version, it was like it was a challenge to her. They removed her twisted sense of fun and replaced it with pure coldness.

Ah well, no matter, there's a reason why I set the default langauge on my DVD players to japanese...

racjona
2008-12-01, 16:20
That is not the eng dub >_<

here is claymore ep1 eng dub ---> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfnoph8s6G8

Holy crap - that's disgusting bleeeee

TeresaFaintSmile
2008-12-03, 04:33
This might be a weird question but did Isley, Riful, Luciela & Raphaela/Rafaela had a nickname back when they were still claymores?

It's awkward if they don't considering the fact that they were #1 or #2 in their claymore times.
surely a powerful claymores like them should have a nickname or alias if not then I will propose names for them.

Isley - Baby Face
Riful - Spoiled Brat
Luciela & Raphaela/Rafaela - The Wonder Twins

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

KillerYomaFromSpace
2008-12-03, 05:52
This might be a weird question but did Isley, Riful, Luciela & Raphaela/Rafaela had a nickname back when they were still claymores?

It's awkward if they don't considering the fact that they were #1 or #2 in their claymore times.
surely a powerful claymores like them should have a nickname or alias if not then I will propose names for them.

Isley - Baby Face
Riful - Spoiled Brat
Luciela & Raphaela/Rafaela - The Wonder Twins

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

I doubt anyone would have dared to call them that =P

TeresaFaintSmile
2008-12-03, 08:57
I doubt anyone would have dared to call them that =P

Claymore Manga Parody

Episode 1: "Riful's Rage"

Former Number #2 "AB": Aren't you the one they call "Spoiled Brat"?
Riful: W-W-What did you just called me!!??
#8 Beatrix: Oh no!, he shouldn't have said that!
#15 Criselda: *gulp* he'll be murdered...
#19 Rogar: Not even our superiors (the black cloaked organization guys)
dare to say that name.
Riful: Take this Ultra Mega Super Special Skill !!!

----And the awakened being (AB) was squashed like a pancake falling from above 1million meters.----



Episode 2 "Isley's Everyday Life"

Black Cloaked Organization Guy: You have a new quest Isley.
This time you'll be heading to the forest of
Crizhk and investigate a rather peculiar AB
activities there.
Now your teammates will be....

Isley: Would you give me the privilege to choose my own teammates?
Black Cloaked Organization Guy: It's your choice.
Isley: Hmmmm... now who would I choose?
#4 Rena: choose me!
#24 Lena: Don't choose her Isley-san choose me!
All Claymore Girls: No! Me! Me! Me!
#6 Kurusaki: SHUT-UP!! why are you all acting like this when it comes to
Isley!?
#31 Criselda: Are you blind? can't you see his hot!?
All Claymore Guys: Damn that Isley thinking his all cool!
#47 Marcus: why didn't my parents gave me a handsome face? *sniff* T_T

----Its really hard to be a handsome guy.----



Episode 3 "The Wonder Twins Gag"

A black cloaked organization guy wearing a hat was walking in the hallway when suddenly.... someone bumped into him.

Luciela: Oh sorry about that sir!
Black Cloaked Organization Guy: Didn't I told you not to run in the hallway!
Raphaela/Rafaela: Y-Yes Sir!
Black Cloaked Organization Guy: Now go to your room, class is about to
start!
Luciela & Raphaela/Rafaela: Yes Sir!

----The two of them ran into the room when suddenly....----

Black Cloaked Organization Guy: Wha-What the! where's my hat!?
Black Cloaked Organization Guy: Luciela, Raphaela/Rafaela !!

----The Black Cloaked Organization Guy rushed into the room.----

Black Cloaked Organization Guy: Luciela, Raphaela/Rafaela where's my
hat!?
Luciela: It wasn't me Raphaela/Rafaela did it!
Raphaela/Rafaela: No it wasn't me! she did it!
Black Cloaked Organization Guy: Just give it back or your both grounded!
#20 Christina: Sir~~ I saw Luciela hid it inside her desk!
Luciela & Raphaela/Rafaela: Your dead bitch

----After class...----

Luciela: Lets get it on bitch!
#20 Christina: Ahhh No!

----After Examination Day----

Black Cloaked Organization Guy: Once again our Wonder Twins got a
perfect grade!
#37 Marian: same as always...
#40 Max: *gossip* I heard a story that those two are cheating.
#37 Mirian: huh really?
Luciela: what are you two talking about?
#37 Mirian & #40 Max: oh nothing! nothing!
Raphaela/Rafaela: *talking to her self* I'm the one that should only got a
perfect grade... Luciela is just asking answers to me
telepathically... :mad:

----No wonder in the original manga version that Raphaela/Rafaela got her scar was because she's just a push-over and can't control Luciela's behavior or Luciela is just too Bossy? :eyebrow: ----


END OF CLAYMORE PARODY

Other topic related thread links --> http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=48848&page=143 &
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=46873&page=41

I have also made a fan made claymore manga ^_^

Link ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmNRc4rr2uM

Cyclone
2008-12-03, 09:41
This might be a weird question but did Isley, Riful, Luciela & Raphaela/Rafaela had a nickname back when they were still claymores?

It's awkward if they don't considering the fact that they were #1 or #2 in their claymore times.
surely a powerful claymores like them should have a nickname or alias if not then I will propose names for them.

Isley - Baby Face
Riful - Spoiled Brat
Luciela & Raphaela/Rafaela - The Wonder Twins

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Isley's nickname is "The Silver King" v9p113

The others we don't know. Riful's has to be something with Lolita in it though :p

TeresaFaintSmile
2008-12-03, 09:52
Isley's nickname is "The Silver King" v9p113

The others we don't know. Riful's has to be something with Lolita in it though :p


Forgive me about this but I think he only got that nickname "Silver King" when he was already an awakened being... he was called by that name because he lived & controls the northern region that was covered with snow and is the leader of their group thus he was called "Silver King"...."Snow King" would be a lame nickname lol... I wanna know about their past claymore nicknames... if there is....

Please correct me if my ideas were wrong....

Cyclone
2008-12-03, 10:12
Forgive me about this but I think he only got that nickname "Silver King" when he was already an awakened being... he was called by that name because he lived & controls the northern region that was covered with snow and is the leader of their group thus he was called "Silver King"...."Snow King" would be a lame nickname lol... I wanna know about their past claymore nicknames... if there is....

Please correct me if my ideas were wrong....

Rigaldo's nickname hasn't changed from claymore to awakened, so I figure Isley's wouldn't either. Besides - Isley's eyes will only be silver as long as he is a Claymore (ABs seem to revert to original color), so unless he got the name from his hair, it's probably his old Claymore name too.

TeresaFaintSmile
2008-12-05, 06:24
so unless he got the name from his hair, it's probably his old Claymore name too.

You've got a point there, thanks ^_^

graywolf202
2008-12-06, 02:56
Hello guyz. First of, this is not related to Claymore but anyway, could you help me out? I've been looking for a anime pic that I lost. I trying to retrieve it, but I'm stuck. It shows:

- anime babe (probably nude, general color is white/light color)
- it's nude but not explicit (probably)
- that anime babe is lying chest down on top of a black bigbike (I think)
- the background is dark (possibly night)
- anime girl has dark/black hair

It's a bit embarrassing but could you please help me out. I've been looking for this for six years. SIX YEARS (the era of diskettes, I shouldn't have trusted those damn things).

Cyclone
2008-12-06, 14:01
Hello guyz. First of, this is not related to Claymore but anyway, could you help me out? I've been looking for a anime pic that I lost. I trying to retrieve it, but I'm stuck. It shows:

- anime babe (probably nude, general color is white/light color)
- it's nude but not explicit (probably)
- that anime babe is lying chest down on top of a black bigbike (I think)
- the background is dark (possibly night)
- anime girl has dark/black hair

It's a bit embarrassing but could you please help me out. I've been looking for this for six years. SIX YEARS (the era of diskettes, I shouldn't have trusted those damn things).

Well, the picture that popped into my mind immediately was from Tenjou Tenge (http://www.onemanga.com/Tenjou_Tenge/35/02-03/) for some reason. She's blonde though so I'm don't know if it's the right one. It's a black and white though - so maybe someone colored it [wrongly]. Can't think of any other art worth searching for 6 years for (since TT is monthly IIRC, chapter 35 would be about 6 or so years old...).

chibamonster
2008-12-07, 00:20
Lol, I thought that was a joke question. Well, from the first anime I ever returned as a teenager for being to ecchi here's Golden Boy 5. There are other pics and one of them may be what you were looking for. She's from the episode "Balls to the Wall" according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Boy_(anime)).

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/2369/reikogbvd7.jpg
As you are looking for an older image, that series is definitely old enough. It could also be any one of the Gantz covers which usually feature cg girls and bikes. I can understand though. Some images just stick with you forever. These ones stuck with me;

http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/Cover-akira.jpghttp://www.brokenfrontier.com/ektron-content/IEmarvelgetsmad2_0810.jpghttp://www.joemadfan.com/plugins/p17_image_gallery/images/11.jpg
I still wish Battle Chasers was continued... I loved Joe Mad's stuff...

graywolf202
2008-12-07, 01:52
Thanks guys. The Tenjou Tenge and Balls to the Wall pic aint it though. Thanks anyway.

Here's more info. It's not much bu first encounter with picture was on Google Image Search "anime" + "girl" (I think). Being the web noob I was back then, I saved the thumbnail only. So I don't have the actual pic and I don't have details on that pic. A few days later (pathetic huh) I realized that you can click on those thumbnail, but then it was gone.

Oh, know any anime pic galleries I can look into?

graywolf202
2008-12-07, 02:08
Here's a schematic of what I remember. My memory is a bit fuzzy so there might be something off.

http://forums.animesuki.com/picture.php?albumid=1240&pictureid=14314.jpg

Cyclone
2008-12-07, 02:22
Hmm... maybe a picture of Priss from the original Bubblegum crisis?
Any more information? Bike current day or futuristic?
My guess though it was probably something fan drawn and thus will be next to impossible to track down unless we figure out what series it's from. Try searching one of the anime databases to see if you can find the show - or at least a similar looking character so we can make beter guesses.

clarakiss~
2008-12-08, 08:23
Here's a schematic of what I remember. My memory is a bit fuzzy so there might be something off.

http://forums.animesuki.com/picture.php?albumid=1240&pictureid=14314.jpg

i know this... i know this... but... but i can't seem to remember though. T.T darn it... now, the image going to stay in my head. >.<!!

Supermutant
2008-12-09, 19:48
Lol - I own the DVD, yet I just watched the dub for the first time on youtube. heh. Ah well - whatever.

Usually I prefer dubs so I don't have to watch the screen at all times. But that is some pretty crummy script reading. Disappointing.



Here's a stupid question. What's with the names? Did Yagi use European names for the Claymores originally or is that a feature of the language adaption?

Cyclone
2008-12-09, 20:59
Here's a stupid question. What's with the names? Did Yagi use European names for the Claymores originally or is that a feature of the language adaption?

Yes, Yagi choose western names for the characters, and they have - in large part -- stayed unchanged. For example Clare is クレア whose pronounciation is KUREA (this kind of basterdization of english words in japanese is normal since japanese does not have as many consonants and those they do have must be followed by a vowel [1 exception].)

Irene's was changed slightly.
And there is some debate as to what we should do with a couple names: RUNE (could be the french pronouciation of Reneé), Rubel (which is probably 'Louvre') and Deitrich (since it's a boys name and all).

But on the whole, the names are pretty much unchanged.

As for liking dubs... well... get well soon :p

chibamonster
2008-12-11, 21:16
Lol, it has been quite a while since NSW has been around here :D.

Well, no one asked this question, but I may have found an answer. Deneve's name might really be Deneb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deneb).

Deneb (α Cyg / α Cygni / Alpha Cygni) is the brightest star in the constellation Cygnus and one of the vertices of the Summer Triangle. It is the 19th brightest star in the night sky, with an apparent magnitude of 1.25. A white supergiant, Deneb is also one of the most luminous stars known. It is, or has been, known by a number of other traditional names, including Arided and Aridif, but today these are almost entirely forgotten.

Well, the katakana doesn't exactly match. The ヴ is a makeshift "V" sound as opposed to the "bu" sound but I thought it was an interesting thing to present and felt like sharing.

Walter
2008-12-11, 23:31
Well, no one asked this question, but I may have found an answer. Deneve's name might really be Deneb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deneb)

I always assumed this too.

Cyclone
2008-12-12, 08:58
Lol, it has been quite a while since NSW has been around here :D.

Well, no one asked this question, but I may have found an answer. Deneve's name might really be Deneb (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deneb).

Deneb (α Cyg / α Cygni / Alpha Cygni) is the brightest star in the constellation Cygnus and one of the vertices of the Summer Triangle. It is the 19th brightest star in the night sky, with an apparent magnitude of 1.25. A white supergiant, Deneb is also one of the most luminous stars known. It is, or has been, known by a number of other traditional names, including Arided and Aridif, but today these are almost entirely forgotten.

Well, the katakana doesn't exactly match. The ヴ is a makeshift "V" sound as opposed to the "bu" sound but I thought it was an interesting thing to present and felt like sharing.

It's possible, but as you say - the katakana does not match. Yagi explicitly choose and went out of his way to use the 'v' sound as opposed to 'bu'. If it was the other way around and he used 'bu' instead, then either reading would be acceptable, but not 'v' to 'bu'.
Besides, I like the name Deneve.

the.green.type
2008-12-12, 12:17
So I just saw all 26 episodes of Claymore in three days' time and MAN, I gotta say, what a crappy job they did adapting the manga to anime. I am way more pleased reading the manga (another marathon job) and as I quickly move toward the latest volume I've been able to find (86), I wanted to ask if anyone knows what the last volume will be. I read somewhere that there will be 90. Could someone confirm/refute/expand on this?
Two more questions: One, any suggestions as to what thread I should go to VENT about what a horrible spit-in-the-face conclusion they gave to the anime?? If it weren't for the manga I would have gone bonkers with frustration. Two, any good recommendations for any action, mystery and/or just plain interesting or thought-provoking animes out there with a planned-out plot and an ending that makes sense and lets me sleep at night??? Seriously, good art, animation and plot and character development are crucial for good anime, but bad endings really give me a lot of grief!!

hell88
2008-12-12, 12:38
So I just saw all 26 episodes of Claymore in three days' time and MAN, I gotta say, what a crappy job they did adapting the manga to anime. I am way more pleased reading the manga (another marathon job) and as I quickly move toward the latest volume I've been able to find (86), I wanted to ask if anyone knows what the last volume will be. I read somewhere that there will be 90. Could someone confirm/refute/expand on this?
Two more questions: One, any suggestions as to what thread I should go to VENT about what a horrible spit-in-the-face conclusion they gave to the anime?? If it weren't for the manga I would have gone bonkers with frustration. Two, any good recommendations for any action, mystery and/or just plain interesting or thought-provoking animes out there with a planned-out plot and an ending that makes sense and lets me sleep at night??? Seriously, good art, animation and plot and character development are crucial for good anime, but bad endings really give me a lot of grief!!

86 volumes, I think you mean 86 chapters. There will also be a lot more than 90 chapters as the story is not even close to finished. Actually right now we are on volume 16. I hope this helps.:)

the.green.type
2008-12-12, 13:27
Chapters it is then :) Thanks, btw - I guess I'll just have to be patient...!

hell88
2008-12-12, 15:13
In chapter 2, when Clare is attacked by a group of Yoma she says that they are incomplete.
Anybody knows what she meant by that?

She probably mean't that none of them were fully grown or something like that.

hell88
2008-12-12, 16:36
Thank you

:confused:That's strange, wouldn't that indicate that Clare knew about how the Organization makes Yoma

I don't think so, she probably had killed a lot of yoma before the series had even started. So she would have known which ones were full grown compared to which were not.

zato_1one
2008-12-12, 16:47
Do you mean chapter 2 in vol.1? I couldn't find that sentence though. :confused:

MisterJB
2008-12-12, 17:33
Do you mean chapter 2 in vol.1? I couldn't find that sentence though. :confused:

I should had done this from the beginning anyway

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zato_1one
2008-12-12, 17:38
VIZ translated that

"DIE... HALFBREED!"

MisterJB
2008-12-12, 17:44
well, in the language of my hometown she also say that they are incomplete so I think that that is the true translation.

Wait, you mean that in the ballon where Clare says incomplete, VIZ translated as halfbreed?

zato_1one
2008-12-12, 17:48
Yes. Yoma said that in VIZ version.

chibamonster
2008-12-12, 18:05
Yup, double checked the raw; it is the yoma saying it.

The kanji used is 半端 【はんぱ】 <read HANPA> remnant; fragment; incomplete set; fraction; odd sum; incompleteness; (P)

So they don't really say half breed, but more of a derogatory word to indicate they are real youma and she is not.

MisterJB
2008-12-12, 18:50
Yup, double checked the raw; it is the yoma saying it.

The kanji used is 半端 【はんぱ】 <read HANPA> remnant; fragment; incomplete set; fraction; odd sum; incompleteness; (P)

So they don't really say half breed, but more of a derogatory word to indicate they are real youma and she is not.

I see, thank you:D

the.green.type
2008-12-13, 00:02
I picked up on the manga right in the middle of the 24 Claymores' fight with Rigaldo (I just saw how the anime covered the events from the beginning to that point), so I'm not sure if any chapters has covered this but: just how disfigured is a Claymore's body after the Yoma blood insert?? Is it shown anywhere? Does the manga or any other reliable source discuss the topic amply (not just hinted) anywhere? I'm kinda curious after a forum member cleverly mentioned that Claymores' body scars (or whatever) must be from the breasts down since Miata breast feeds (or whatever) from Clarice.
Another question: are there any instances where Teresa releases more than 10% of her Yoki? To my knowledge the most Yoki she has released was when she fought Pricilla.

KillerYomaFromSpace
2008-12-13, 00:23
I picked up on the manga right in the middle of the 24 Claymores' fight with Rigaldo (I just saw how the anime covered the events from the beginning to that point), so I'm not sure if any chapters has covered this but: just how disfigured is a Claymore's body after the Yoma blood insert?? Is it shown anywhere? Does the manga or any other reliable source discuss the topic amply (not just hinted) anywhere? I'm kinda curious after a forum member cleverly mentioned that Claymores' body scars (or whatever) must be from the breasts down since Miata breast feeds (or whatever) from Clarice.
Another question: are there any instances where Teresa releases more than 10% of her Yoki? To my knowledge the most Yoki she has released was when she fought Pricilla.

The scar has never been seen, but Walter and I especulated that the scar starts at the middle of their necks (you never see the neck of a claymore in the whole manga from the front (not even the ghosts) and probably continues all the way down to their navel, it should look like a huge ugly cut, from an operation in which they are cut wide open and inserted youma organs. Breasts should not be affected by it.

Teresa also released youki against Rosemary

the.green.type
2008-12-13, 01:56
Hm, don't you think the mark of the Yoma procedure would be more grotesque? I mean, those guys who saw Teresa's body (the most indicative reaction to a Claymore's body) seemed pretty disgusted by it. I don't know: I think of some rough, bumpy (or bubbly), purplish surface through their belly and navel. Maybe something that would resemble a Yoma's belly...
In any case I'm kinda worried that the scar will never be shown since I don't see how Yagi would make the mark relevant at these heights: it seems unimportant for the progress of the story by now. I don't know what grand revelation could come from knowing more about the mark. Other than responding to fans' morbid curiosity, I can't see how he would tie it in.

Sleepy Speculator
2008-12-13, 03:40
Well if one of the more grotesque theories about the head being used was true, then it would kinda have to be revealed since Clare doesn't have a yoma inside her. There was also a very long argument about the nature of the unbreakable swords which turned out to be a plot point so i wouldn't worry too much. The nature of the suppressant pills still hasn't been revealed either yet, it's all on a big list i'm sure chiba has.

KillerYomaFromSpace
2008-12-13, 05:08
Hm, don't you think the mark of the Yoma procedure would be more grotesque?

What makes you think that a line from the middle of the neck to the navel can't look grotesque?, I never talked about things like the texture or the color, I my say is even possible that the wound is not completely closed and is constantly emiting liquids and the black cloth part (that is unnecesarily long inside the suit) is there to prevent the white suit from getting stained by those liquids. also, the shape of the wound acording to this theory would also fit right with the neck cloth's length and shape.

the truth is that we've checked all 86 chapters and not in a single picture the neck of an unawakened claymore has been shown no matter her outfit, even the trainees who doesnt have a symbol or armor, has the neck cloth part, while most humans/awakened beings etc show their necks all the time. you can check it yourself.

chibamonster
2008-12-13, 05:23
@Sleepy Speculator: Actually the list is getting shorter and shorter with each chapter! Of course we have the DoD group who was just introduced and we have next to no information about them. By "just introduced" I mean they were introduced more than 7 months ago (whoah). But at the moment we have every pre-time skip character accounted for! Isley was the last of the big hitters. We haven't seen Alicia/Beth again now that I think about it, so I guess we have them to wait for. But many of the lose ends are being tied up! Claymore's consistency is a major turn on for me.

But still on the list we have: Youki pills, Miata's situation/mother, is Clarice a failure?, youma production procedures, claymore's scars, of course who the Demon is, all that dragon kin jazz, ... well there is a bit left, but a lot of our speculation from a year ago has been answered.

So what we know about the scar is:
-It produces the smell of blood. Rubel told Clare it would never wash off.
-It looks like it hurts. That was Clare's first reaction to Teresa's deformed chest.
-Partially awakened ones taste/smell different than normal Claymores according to Ophelia. Ophelia tasted blood from the scar it seems.
-The neck piece covers the scar as Teresa pulls hers out to show her torso and Ophelia reaches underneath it.
-It doesn't look real.
-It terrifies well meaning religious characters and confuses them to the point that they say, "I don't know your anatomy"
-It's enough to make bandit rapists cough up their breakfast after checking out a hottie like Teresa.

We have speculations on other bits to be sure, about Claymores anatomy (they can stand with a gaping hole where their spine should be indicating they are not reliant on their skeletal structure) their metabolism, etc, but most of those are unconfirmed although some are very convincing.

Sleepy Speculator
2008-12-13, 17:27
@Chibamonster: wooh i'm important enough to get Bold text? thanks, ever considered putting that list down somewhere?

clarakiss~
2008-12-16, 18:26
Have you guys noticed that in the anime, when Rigardo chopps off Undine's arms, you can see purple blood on the circle of the rigth arm?
Big error eh?

maybe a yoma pretending to be undine? lol jk :p

nine_tailed_kyuubi
2008-12-17, 00:20
untill now i have no idea why the anime stopped and went out of the story ? can anyone help me with that ?

Cyclone
2008-12-17, 00:54
untill now i have no idea why the anime stopped and went out of the story ? can anyone help me with that ?

The weekly anime would have covered about 62 chapters in it's 26 episode run (6 months). At the point the anime finished, the monthly manga was about 73-74 in (i.e. took more than 6 years to get that far). In another words there was only enough chapters for 4-6 more episodes and no way to wrap up the story. Waiting for the manga to produce enough chapters would require at least a 3-4 year wait to get enough material.

Even if there was a wait, do you think the anime audience would tolerate a Berserk like ending with Pricilla, Raki and Isley on a cliff, counting 'lights' (remaining living Claymores in Pieta) down to zero - then roll credits - followed by the message: "Next episode Winter 2013 -- otanoshimini !" Personally, I'd laugh my butt off if Madhouse tried such a stunt :D

Awakened
2008-12-17, 01:33
The weekly anime would have covered about 62 chapters in it's 26 episode run (6 months). At the point the anime finished, the monthly manga was about 73-74 in (i.e. took more than 6 years to get that far). In another words there was only enough chapters for 4-6 more episodes and no way to wrap up the story. Waiting for the manga to produce enough chapters would require at least a 3-4 year wait to get enough material.

Even if there was a wait, do you think the anime audience would tolerate a Berserk like ending with Pricilla, Raki and Isley on a cliff, counting 'lights' (remaining living Claymores in Pieta) down to zero - then roll credits - followed by the message: "Next episode Winter 2013 -- otanoshimini !" Personally, I'd laugh my butt off if Madhouse tried such a stunt :D

I think an ending like that would have been better for Claymore, everyone would have run to the manga.

MisterJB
2008-12-17, 15:17
maybe a yoma pretending to be undine? lol jk :p

Maybe she Awakened

nine_tailed_kyuubi
2008-12-18, 22:27
That is insanely stupid to go for the anime with the manga not runniing far enough , i t is a shame the anime ended like that , for me i think Claymore could have been the best animation if done till the end

Cyclone
2008-12-18, 23:10
That is insanely stupid to go for the anime with the manga not runniing far enough , i t is a shame the anime ended like that , for me i think Claymore could have been the best animation if done till the end

Kinda ironic form someone who uses Naruto for an avatar :D. You didn't like that one and a half year stretch of Naruto anime filler either (which happened for the very same reason), I suppose?

Same thing happened with One Piece, Bleach, and so on and so on... Saddly, it's not exactly uncommon.

Snider
2008-12-19, 08:42
Naruto = fart machine :D

I think its not very hard to make a second season for claymore following the remaining manga, if we see closely the time raki split in the anime was short, its not very hard for a second season to split him again, send him to easley and then reappear after 7 years :p

PrinzkO
2008-12-19, 12:24
clare defeated priscilla! priscilla defeated isley! so it seems that clare is the most powerfull being on the island. how is it possible that such a supermegasayajin like clare lost raki again ?

again: the only way to start a second season is to start with a new pieta fight!

MisterJB
2008-12-19, 15:02
clare defeated priscilla! priscilla defeated isley! so it seems that clare is the most powerfull being on the island. how is it possible that such a supermegasayajin like clare lost raki again ?

again: the only way to start a second season is to start with a new pieta fight!

That is the real problem, Clare wouldn't have reasons to go after Priscilla so the anime would hvae no point except Miria's vengeance on the Org

zato_1one
2008-12-19, 16:45
I have read that the idea of adapting Claymore to Anime came from the president of MADHOUSE himself! He read the manga and decided to adapt it.

If I were him, I would like to sack or suspend whoever behind the anime plot in the last part. :D

Ryuken
2008-12-20, 22:12
One thing to adept, one thing to follow the plot.

Atta-san
2008-12-21, 11:49
Hi there! I'm new to this forum and I'm kind of in a chrusade (is it spelled right :confused:) to get all the info I can get about the male Claymores.
However, if the question is too wide, let's start with these two:
1. Has it ever been stated that Rigaldo, Easley and Duph belonged to the same generation?
2. In that case, Was there only one male generation? Because, honestly, it doesn't make much sense to me since Claymores are an ungoing experiment...

Than you!

Cyclone
2008-12-21, 12:31
Hi there! I'm new to this forum and I'm kind of in a chrusade (is it spelled right :confused:) to get all the info I can get about the male Claymores.
However, if the question is too wide, let's start with these two:
1. Has it ever been stated that Rigaldo, Easley and Duph belonged to the same generation?
2. In that case, Was there only one male generation? Because, honestly, it doesn't make much sense to me since Claymores are an ungoing experiment...

Than you!

No, you didn't spell it right. It's crusade. ;) But onto your questions.

1)
The only place that is ever really mentioned is in the Databooks where there is a list of all the Claymores we've met. Isley, Rigaldo and Duff, are listed as Numbers 1, 2, and 3 respectively and labeled as "Early Men Era".
In the manga somewhere IIRC, the time is refered to "the Era of Male Warriors", as opposed to Riful who is refered to "1st generation".

2)
I have never seen the word "generation" applied to the the guys only the girls. It is baffling that there appear to be so many, but the explanations for that are unkown. Perhaps there were more of them then. Perhaps there were constantly replenished.... who knows. Yagi may tell us eventually.

FateAnomaly
2008-12-30, 02:46
Maybe in the early days, the number of actives were not limited 47. Maybe 470 :P

Newhope
2008-12-30, 04:07
I don't think the "male era" was exclusively male Miria sort of mentions it at the start of the slashers arcs fight "most of the warriors in the beginning where male....."

stormy001_M1A2
2008-12-30, 13:38
That is insanely stupid to go for the anime with the manga not runniing far enough , i t is a shame the anime ended like that , for me i think Claymore could have been the best animation if done till the end

Let me put in one simple sentence:

Money, Money, Money.

shelter
2009-01-01, 11:28
2. In that case, Was there only one male generation? Because, honestly, it doesn't make much sense to me since Claymores are an ungoing experiment...


You're probably right. Because judging by the sheer number of Awakened Beings in both Anime & Manga that happen to be male - there's the possibly of many, many generations of male warriors.

MisterJB
2009-01-01, 17:22
You're probably right. Because judging by the sheer number of Awakened Beings in both Anime & Manga that happen to be male - there's the possibly of many, many generations of male warriors.

The army of Isley had 30, with Isley, Rigardo and Dauff, 33, that six-armed guy, 34, the one that Helen and Deneve killed, 35.
Am I forgetting anyone?

edit: Miata and CLarice killed at least two so 37
Yagi can still put 10 altough I think it's normal to see more male AB than female, its said that man Awaken more easily than woman

graywolf202
2009-01-02, 19:47
About male AB post.

First off, how many Claymores were made per generation? (Has it been settled yet in this forum?) If we take that there are 182+ (based on Teresa's ID) Claymores per generation, then that's a lot even if we just consider just one generation and that not all of them were male.

Secondly, I remember Ermita saying that males were let out in the wild. That is to say it is possible not all male AB are full pledged Claymores (which may be limited to 47 at time), some if not most are "trainees.

Thirdly, as were talking about the early days of experiment, as @FateAnomaly said, maybe there were more than 47 actives at a time. Though that has the con that when you do experiments, you usually do baby steps NOT giant leaps. But hey, maybe back then 300+ actives at a time was the baby step.

Fourthly, if the male warriors were let out into the wild and initially NOT hunted, that will make them live longer (by hiding in more remote places) and smarter. Thus, male ABs are only encountered deep into the North and deep into the West.

MisterJB
2009-01-02, 20:27
graywolf: Helen and Deneve killed an male AB in the south

graywolf202
2009-01-03, 23:05
Thus, male ABs are only encountered deep into the North and deep into the West.

Scratch that. Thus male ABs are mostly encountered only deep into the North, deep into the West and (possibly) deep into the South; that is to say they are (or or at least were) hiding as deep as the Dwellers of the Deep (or at least used to). There are of course male ABs like the six-armed guy hidden in the mountains for all sorts of reasons.

Also, I'm not really updated, has it been confirmed that the AB Helen, Deneve and Diet-what's-her-name killed is male? Coz just because there are no boobs, and the chest is man-like doesn't mean it's male. I mean look at Undine.

MisterJB
2009-01-04, 07:20
Scratch that. Thus male ABs are mostly encountered only deep into the North, deep into the West and (possibly) deep into the South; that is to say they are (or or at least were) hiding as deep as the Dwellers of the Deep (or at least used to). There are of course male ABs like the six-armed guy hidden in the mountains for all sorts of reasons.

Also, I'm not really updated, has it been confirmed that the AB Helen, Deneve and Diet-what's-her-name killed is male? Coz just because there are no boobs, and the chest is man-like doesn't mean it's male. I mean look at Undine.

Female AB always have boobs. Riful is a little kid and her AB form has boobs

Also, no offence, but saying that AB can be found in the North, West and South is like saying that Ab can be found everywhere except in the East because that's where the Organization is

Freya
2009-01-05, 04:51
Why can't Claymore move to like WSJ or something?

Cyclone
2009-01-05, 05:59
Why can't Claymore move to like WSJ or something?

Why do so many people have to be so selfish?
Claymore typically has almost twice the number of pages as the typical WSJ manga and has about twice the level of detail. 4 times the work, 4 times the length of time between release. Live with it.

It's nice that you like Claymore enough to be impatient like we all are, but unfair to Yagi sensei asking him to quadruple the workload. (Don't you dare start saying "assistants! hire more assistants!" - if you think that will solve it, read a claymore doujin. I want the Yagi made original.)

WarofGenesis
2009-01-19, 02:13
is there gonna be 2nd season for claymore??
sori if im posting this at the wrong place XD

Double_friedman
2009-01-19, 04:44
I use torrents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent_client) to download series that are coming out. There are even torrents listed on animesuki: http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26

Torrents really are the best way if you want to watch any decent quality of (unlicensed) anime and usually it is translated. There are how to use torrent guides all over the net if you need help with it. There are even some on this forum.

Well, it depends, in my city there's a big market of anime where you can buy dvd's of any anime for 2 dollars each one. Claymores was in three dvd's, but it costed 5 USD.

Proto
2009-01-28, 10:33
What!? There are even torrents listed in Animesuki? As in, www.animesuki.com? Who would have believed it.

Snider
2009-01-28, 16:33
There's any info about eventual future animation projects for claymore?
Im not asking if there will be a second season, just wanted to know if the claymore crew left any hints about it.

graywolf202
2009-01-29, 10:00
Not sure if this belongs here. Anyway, here's some stuff here and there from the net. It's quite amusing: Miata is a car's name; Isley is Jewish (sort of); Rigard could mean adviser, ..... There are probably misses here and there, please do point them out (I'm partculary interested with the Japanese origin of Miata).

Amusing Claymore names.

Galatea - \g(a)-la-tea\ pronounced gal-ah-TEE-ah. Greek origin, meaning "white as milk". In mythology, Galatea was a statue loved by the sculptor Pygmalion. She was brought to life for him by Aphrodite. The myth, via G.B. Shaw's play "Pygmalion", is the source of the musical "My Fair Lady". Galatea has 2 variant forms: Galatee and Galathea.

Ermita - from Hermitage Museum. But could literally mean "small chapel."

Deneve - (surname) 1. Altered spelling of northern French Denef(v)e, a habitational name, with the preposition de, for someone from places called Neffe in the Belgian provinces of Namur and Luxembourg. 2. Dutch (de Neve): kinship name from Middle Dutch neve ‘grandson’, ‘(male) cousin’, ‘nephew’ + the definite article de.

Isley - (surname) 1. English: unexplained. The connection with Isley Walton in
Leicestershire is not clear. 2. Possibly a respelling of German Eisele or Swiss Isler.
Easley - (surname) 1. Americanized form of German Eisele. Compare Isley. 2. English: unexplained. This name is quite widespread in Britain.
*Eisele - (surname) 1. from a short pet form of the personal name Isenhart, from Old High German isan ‘iron’ + hart ‘hardy’, ‘strong’. 2. from Isenlin, a compound of Middle High German isen ‘iron’ + the hypocoristic suffix -lin, hence a nickname for a blacksmith, ironworker, or dealer in iron.
*Isler - (surname) Variant spelling (mainly Swiss) of Eisler.
*Eisler - (surname) South German: variant of Eisner.
*Eisner - (surname) German and Jewish (Ashkenazic): occupational name for an ironworker, smith, or ironmonger, from an agent derivative of Middle High German isen and German Eisen ‘iron.'
*Eisen - (surname) German and Jewish (Ashkenazic): metonymic occupational name for an ironworker or smith, or an ironmonger, from Middle High German isen ‘iron’, German Eisen. It may also have been used as a nickname, with reference to the strength and hardness of iron or to its color, while as a Jewish name it was also adopted as an ornamental name from modern German Eisen ‘iron’ or the Yiddish cognate ayzn.

Rigald/Rigardo -
*Reginald - \r(e)-gina-ld, regi-nald\ pronounced REJ-a-nold. Latin origin, meaning "ruler's advisor". Variant of Reynold and Ronald. Popular in Britain in the 19th century. Actor Judge Reinhold; baseball celebrity Reggie Jackson; theologian Reinhold Niebuhr. Reginald has 35 variant forms: Naldo, Raghnall, Rainault, Rainhold, Raonull, Raynald, Rayniero, Reg, Reggie, Regin, Reginaldo, Reginalt, Reginauld, Reginault, Regino, Reginvald, Reginvalt, Regnauld, Regnault, Reinald, Reinaldo, Reinaldos, Reinhold, Reinold, Reinwald, Renaud, Renault, Rene, Reynaldo, Reynaldos, Reynold, Reynolds, Rheinallt, Rinaldo and Ronald.

Riful -
*Riffle - (Def'n) 1. A rocky shoal or sandbar lying just below the surface of a waterway. 2. A stretch of choppy water caused by such a shoal or sandbar; a rapid.

Undine - \u-ndi-ne, un-dine\ Derived from Latin unda meaning "wave". The word undine was created by the medieval author Paracelsus, who used it for female water spirits. In literature, Edith Wharton created a character in "The Custom of the Country" who was named Undine for the hair-curling tonic that made her father rich. Undine has 5 variant forms: Ondina, Ondine, Undeen, Undene and Undina.

Miata - name of a Mazda car. Name derived from:
*"reward" (Old High German, see also "meed" in Webster's dictionary, Oxford English Dictionary and the Comprehensive Etymological Dictionary of the English Language)
*computer generated name
*"miataru" (Romanji) - "to find", "to come across" or "to be found"
*"mia"(Romanji: shine) + "ta"(Romanji: rice field) = "shine in a rise field" (Note:
doubtful)
*Siata roadster (Italian) (miata - fem. of "siata," in the Italian dialect "Calabresse"
means "on her way" or "ready to go") (Note: doubtful)
*name of Miata Lewis-Harris (who gave her name to the car) - from Amenata, of the Ivory Coast in Africa. It means "she who pleases everyone, or makes everyone happy."

Tabitha - \t(a)-bi-tha\ pronounced TAB-i-thah. It is of Aramaic origin, and its meaning is "gazelle". Biblical: the Aramaic name of Dorcas, a kindly woman noted for her good works, who was resurrected by Peter. Journalist Tabitha Soren. Tabitha has 12 variant forms: Tabatha, Tabbee, Tabbey, Tabbi, Tabbie, Tabbitha, Tabby, Tabatha, Tabetha, Tabita, Tabotha and Tabytha.

Dietrich - The boy's name Dietrich \di(e)-tri-ch, diet-rich\ is of German origin. Variant of Theodoric (Old German) "power of the tribe" or "people's ruler." Dietrich has 5 variant forms: Dedrick, Derek, Deke, Diederick and Dirk.

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Renee - \r(e)-nee\ pronounced ren-NAY. It is of French origin, and its meaning is "reborn". Renée is the French form of Renata, more common in modern times. Ren- is also used as a prefix with various endings to create new names. Tennis celebrity Renee Richards; actresses Renee Russo, Renée Zellweger. Renee has 19 variant forms: Ranae, Ranay, Ranee, Renae, Renata, Renay, Renaye, Rene, Reneisha, Renell, Renelle, Renie, Renisha, Renita, Renne, Rennie, Renny, Rhianaye and Rrenae.
*"lune" - moon (French)
*Rune - \r(u)-ne\ Old Norse origin, and its meaning is "secret". Runes were the alphabet used by ancient German peoples from the third to the 13th century. They have an aura of mystery as they were translated only recently. Not related to the similar-sounding Roone. Baby names that sound like Rune are Rane and Rene. Other similar baby names are June, Rube and Tune.

Ryuken
2009-01-29, 14:01
Not sure if this belongs here. Anyway, here's some stuff here and there from the net. It's quite amusing: Miata is a car's name; Isley is Jewish (sort of); Rigard could mean adviser, ..... There are probably misses here and there, please do point them out (I'm partculary interested with the Japanese origin of Miata).

Amusing Claymore names.

Galatea - \g(a)-la-tea\ pronounced gal-ah-TEE-ah. Greek origin, meaning "white as milk". In mythology, Galatea was a statue loved by the sculptor Pygmalion. She was brought to life for him by Aphrodite. The myth, via G.B. Shaw's play "Pygmalion", is the source of the musical "My Fair Lady". Galatea has 2 variant forms: Galatee and Galathea.

Ermita - from Hermitage Museum. But could literally mean "small chapel."

Deneve - (surname) 1. Altered spelling of northern French Denef(v)e, a habitational name, with the preposition de, for someone from places called Neffe in the Belgian provinces of Namur and Luxembourg. 2. Dutch (de Neve): kinship name from Middle Dutch neve ‘grandson’, ‘(male) cousin’, ‘nephew’ + the definite article de.

Isley - (surname) 1. English: unexplained. The connection with Isley Walton in
Leicestershire is not clear. 2. Possibly a respelling of German Eisele or Swiss Isler.
Easley - (surname) 1. Americanized form of German Eisele. Compare Isley. 2. English: unexplained. This name is quite widespread in Britain.
*Eisele - (surname) 1. from a short pet form of the personal name Isenhart, from Old High German isan ‘iron’ + hart ‘hardy’, ‘strong’. 2. from Isenlin, a compound of Middle High German isen ‘iron’ + the hypocoristic suffix -lin, hence a nickname for a blacksmith, ironworker, or dealer in iron.
*Isler - (surname) Variant spelling (mainly Swiss) of Eisler.
*Eisler - (surname) South German: variant of Eisner.
*Eisner - (surname) German and Jewish (Ashkenazic): occupational name for an ironworker, smith, or ironmonger, from an agent derivative of Middle High German isen and German Eisen ‘iron.'
*Eisen - (surname) German and Jewish (Ashkenazic): metonymic occupational name for an ironworker or smith, or an ironmonger, from Middle High German isen ‘iron’, German Eisen. It may also have been used as a nickname, with reference to the strength and hardness of iron or to its color, while as a Jewish name it was also adopted as an ornamental name from modern German Eisen ‘iron’ or the Yiddish cognate ayzn.

Rigald/Rigardo -
*Reginald - \r(e)-gina-ld, regi-nald\ pronounced REJ-a-nold. Latin origin, meaning "ruler's advisor". Variant of Reynold and Ronald. Popular in Britain in the 19th century. Actor Judge Reinhold; baseball celebrity Reggie Jackson; theologian Reinhold Niebuhr. Reginald has 35 variant forms: Naldo, Raghnall, Rainault, Rainhold, Raonull, Raynald, Rayniero, Reg, Reggie, Regin, Reginaldo, Reginalt, Reginauld, Reginault, Regino, Reginvald, Reginvalt, Regnauld, Regnault, Reinald, Reinaldo, Reinaldos, Reinhold, Reinold, Reinwald, Renaud, Renault, Rene, Reynaldo, Reynaldos, Reynold, Reynolds, Rheinallt, Rinaldo and Ronald.

Riful -
*Riffle - (Def'n) 1. A rocky shoal or sandbar lying just below the surface of a waterway. 2. A stretch of choppy water caused by such a shoal or sandbar; a rapid.

Undine - \u-ndi-ne, un-dine\ Derived from Latin unda meaning "wave". The word undine was created by the medieval author Paracelsus, who used it for female water spirits. In literature, Edith Wharton created a character in "The Custom of the Country" who was named Undine for the hair-curling tonic that made her father rich. Undine has 5 variant forms: Ondina, Ondine, Undeen, Undene and Undina.

Miata - name of a Mazda car. Name derived from:
*"reward" (Old High German, see also "meed" in Webster's dictionary, Oxford English Dictionary and the Comprehensive Etymological Dictionary of the English Language)
*computer generated name
*"miataru" (Romanji) - "to find", "to come across" or "to be found"
*"mia"(Romanji: shine) + "ta"(Romanji: rice field) = "shine in a rise field" (Note:
doubtful)
*Siata roadster (Italian) (miata - fem. of "siata," in the Italian dialect "Calabresse"
means "on her way" or "ready to go") (Note: doubtful)
*name of Miata Lewis-Harris (who gave her name to the car) - from Amenata, of the Ivory Coast in Africa. It means "she who pleases everyone, or makes everyone happy."

Tabitha - \t(a)-bi-tha\ pronounced TAB-i-thah. It is of Aramaic origin, and its meaning is "gazelle". Biblical: the Aramaic name of Dorcas, a kindly woman noted for her good works, who was resurrected by Peter. Journalist Tabitha Soren. Tabitha has 12 variant forms: Tabatha, Tabbee, Tabbey, Tabbi, Tabbie, Tabbitha, Tabby, Tabatha, Tabetha, Tabita, Tabotha and Tabytha.

Dietrich - The boy's name Dietrich \di(e)-tri-ch, diet-rich\ is of German origin. Variant of Theodoric (Old German) "power of the tribe" or "people's ruler." Dietrich has 5 variant forms: Dedrick, Derek, Deke, Diederick and Dirk.

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Renee - \r(e)-nee\ pronounced ren-NAY. It is of French origin, and its meaning is "reborn". Renée is the French form of Renata, more common in modern times. Ren- is also used as a prefix with various endings to create new names. Tennis celebrity Renee Richards; actresses Renee Russo, Renée Zellweger. Renee has 19 variant forms: Ranae, Ranay, Ranee, Renae, Renata, Renay, Renaye, Rene, Reneisha, Renell, Renelle, Renie, Renisha, Renita, Renne, Rennie, Renny, Rhianaye and Rrenae.
*"lune" - moon (French)
*Rune - \r(u)-ne\ Old Norse origin, and its meaning is "secret". Runes were the alphabet used by ancient German peoples from the third to the 13th century. They have an aura of mystery as they were translated only recently. Not related to the similar-sounding Roone. Baby names that sound like Rune are Rane and Rene. Other similar baby names are June, Rube and Tune.

If it is about claymore, than it definitely belongs here @gray. And you have done a good job. The info that you have provided is indeed most welcome.:(

Guido
2009-02-04, 12:14
Is it true that chapter 89 of the manga won't be coming out until April?

MisterJB
2009-02-04, 12:29
Is it true that chapter 89 of the manga won't be coming out until April?

No, our february issue was japan's march issue. So our march issue will be their april issue so we will have Claymore next month

Ryuken
2009-02-04, 14:57
Just look at how quickly this months chapter came out on Onemanga.

EternalNeptune
2009-02-07, 09:27
Is Irene alive?

Awakened
2009-02-07, 09:43
Is Irene alive?

We don't know. She could be, because she told Clare she wont die so easily, or she could be dead, because Clare felt something in her arm that was given to her by Irene during the time Irene should have been killed.

kim1406
2009-02-16, 23:42
Hi to all.

I watched last week first and second episodes of Claymore, then, I start reading the manga along with watching the anime. I read in the internet, that the anime is following the manga upto ep. 20, so I was reading/watching till this point. After that, I completed all manga chapters (upto chapter 88), without watching the rest of the anime (Eps.21-26). So, should I go and watch those six episodes, or they will disappoint me, and just forget about them and enjoy waiting for next manga chapter?

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-02-17, 01:12
It is really the last 3 episodes that will truly disappoint you: They forced a fight between Clare and Priscilla and at that point it isn't Yagi's by design any more and the people responsible aren't as good as Yagi. The episode before that is also somewhat disappointing, because they are trying to save the complete form of Clare's partial awakening for the Priscilla fight. So in the Rigaldo fight, only her legs are partially awakened, and that really bugs me. I guess there are some minor changes throughout the war of the north arc, but the rest aren't that bothersome. Flora seems a bit jealous of Clare's flashsword at first in the anime, and then pressures clare into telling her about irene by saying that she needs to completely trust her, and then Jean stops the fight. In the manga, Flora wants to fight with Clare to see who really is better and who really should be the leader of her group. They do spar in there. To me that isn't bad; that falls more under alternate universe rules that happens a lot in Anime/manga. There is also a part in the anime that I thought was in the manga but I didn't see it upon my last reading. It is when Priscilla runs off, and ends up eating a human and Raki witnesses. :P That was good stuff and should've really been in the Manga, and would help explain the split between Isley and Raki/Priscilla.

kim1406
2009-02-17, 05:36
It is really the last 3 episodes that will truly disappoint you: .

So you're saying, no need to see the last 3 episodes as they are a real disappointment!!!

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-02-17, 11:30
:D It's like someone on here said recently, Claymore has 23 episodes. The 23 episode, might disappoint you, depending on how much Clare arms being partially awakened is important to you.

AzureRainbow
2009-02-22, 02:36
Is Irene alive?
I really hope we get some kind of confirmation on this as well. *hopes she's alive* :D

MisterJB
2009-02-22, 19:49
How do we know that Rigardo was number 2?

We know that Dauff was number 3 and Isley was number 1, so Rigardo should be number 2 but Yagi never said so in the manga, did he?

iLney
2009-02-22, 21:31
Because the AB sent by Isley to Riful said something like: "You, Rigardo and Isley always compete...." It makes no sense if Rigardo was anything else but #2. Why? Because then both he and Duff should compete for the #2 first to gain the qualification to face Isley.

dunames
2009-02-22, 23:00
So you're saying, no need to see the last 3 episodes as they are a real disappointment!!!

well i wouldnt go as far as to said it a real disappointment. if u would to look at it from an anime fan point of view, if the serie would to follow the manga and concluded the northern war arc with every1's death since u wont find out that they survive til season 2. to an anime fan who dont give a fk about manga, it would have being train wreck. not knowing what eh future hold, chance of a season 2 is really slim and leaving an ending like the manga would have ruin teh serie for anime fan who dont follow teh manga. as an manga fan who just happen to watch teh anime, u should just take it as a 23 episode anime and treat the last 3 episode as a preview to a possible ending to the fight between Clare and Presy. treat it as a bonuse possible animate fight between clare and presy since chances of a season 2 is really slim and even now, there no trace of a possible season 2 so far.

evil_kenshin
2009-02-23, 02:18
How do we know that Rigardo was number 2?

We know that Dauff was number 3 and Isley was number 1, so Rigardo should be number 2 but Yagi never said so in the manga, did he?

the databooks included his rank

FragrantFlora
2009-02-24, 06:42
well i wouldnt go as far as to said it a real disappointment. if u would to look at it from an anime fan point of view, if the serie would to follow the manga and concluded the northern war arc with every1's death since u wont find out that they survive til season 2. to an anime fan who dont give a fk about manga, it would have being train wreck. not knowing what eh future hold, chance of a season 2 is really slim and leaving an ending like the manga would have ruin teh serie for anime fan who dont follow teh manga. as an manga fan who just happen to watch teh anime, u should just take it as a 23 episode anime and treat the last 3 episode as a preview to a possible ending to the fight between Clare and Presy. treat it as a bonuse possible animate fight between clare and presy since chances of a season 2 is really slim and even now, there no trace of a possible season 2 so far.

I read from a youtube comment that there was supposedly going to be a season 2 but it was cancelled because of bad critics. Not sure if its true but its what i just saw.

Ancient Soul
2009-02-25, 09:09
Ermita - from Hermitage Museum. But could literally mean "small chapel."

Here is a bit more... :)

Hermitage Museum : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermitage_Museum

hermitage (noun) :
->retreat; isolated dwelling;
->a place where a religious person lives on their own , apart from the rest of society;

hermit (noun) :
->a person who lives alone and apart from the rest of society, especially for religious reasons;

See also : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ermita,_Manila

Ancient Soul
2009-02-25, 09:17
Because the AB sent by Isley to Riful said something like: "You, Rigardo and Isley always compete...." It makes no sense if Rigardo was anything else but #2. Why? Because then both he and Duff should compete for the #2 first to gain the qualification to face Isley.

I wonder who was number four.

Also i hope one day Yagi tell us who was the EYE (or at least the best yoki reader) of the age of male warriors.Rigardo show us some yoki reading skills but noting great.The turtle AB show us some manipulation but was only one of the weakest in Isley's army and didn't noticed Irene's arm.

If Yagi ever decide that one male escape awakening and throw him into the story it should be the EYE of that generation.

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-02-25, 10:59
well i wouldnt go as far as to said it a real disappointment. if u would to look at it from an anime fan point of view, if the serie would to follow the manga and concluded the northern war arc with every1's death since u wont find out that they survive til season 2. to an anime fan who dont give a fk about manga, it would have being train wreck. not knowing what eh future hold, chance of a season 2 is really slim and leaving an ending like the manga would have ruin teh serie for anime fan who dont follow teh manga. as an manga fan who just happen to watch teh anime, u should just take it as a 23 episode anime and treat the last 3 episode as a preview to a possible ending to the fight between Clare and Presy. treat it as a bonuse possible animate fight between clare and presy since chances of a season 2 is really slim and even now, there no trace of a possible season 2 so far.

:p Dunno, way back when I lived in Europe, I remember a tv series that ended with the main characters being hung, and even as a kid, I accepted that as a great ending. The anime could've just ended in a cliffhanger. that would've made another season more likely. :d

dunames
2009-02-26, 02:44
:p Dunno, way back when I lived in Europe, I remember a tv series that ended with the main characters being hung, and even as a kid, I accepted that as a great ending. The anime could've just ended in a cliffhanger. that would've made another season more likely. :d

well the ending would have to go with the serie. in the case of the serie u talk about, an tragic ending might fit well but in the case of claymore, to have the ending to an serie where u just simply killed off all teh main characters would have beign a trainwreck unless theres a season 2. consider how they slowly built up clare to be a possible greatest/strongest warrior of all time and slowly drag the ORG dark secrect into the light which would possibly lead to a civil war on the island. then bam kill off every1 that is anythign int eh serie.

from what i heard, the company that does the anime only got contract right to animate up the the Northern War arc only. IMO they should have nogotiated right up to the end of the invasion after Easley defeat Lucy. if they would to cut just 1 min worth of trash from each episode from 1-23, they have have atleast 4episode worth of room to animate Easily invasion of the South after Clare and them fake death and ended the 1st serie with an epic battle between 2 abysal one. with the serie ended with teh introduction of Alicia in her awaken form soloing an army of ABs in the East, Rifus soloing an army of ABs in the West and Easily sucessfully invaded the South and the Surviving Warriors in the North vowing to avenge their falling comrade, Both World of claymore fan anime/manga would have anxiously waiting for season 2. that would make the first claymore anime a lot more sucessful. with yagi not given teh animator the right to animate teh next arc which is what the animators wanted, animators was face with a tough choice. follow the manga, have Rigardo 1 shoted everything and then have clare semi awaken to 1 shot Rigardo only to have all eh warrior gang rape to death by the rest of teh awaken beings and ended teh serie that way since nigotiation didnt go well with the arthur, season 2 is not very likely and chances are, they probably didnt want to deal with teh arthur anymore so they give teh anime an original ending and make it a done deal.

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-02-26, 03:31
;) Bleh! The way you end the first series is inconclusive. You have the bit where prissy talks about the remaining two lights, so strong, yet so fragil... Then with the inconclusiveness, you have Clare and Miria fighting; Clare vision is becoming blurry and goes from being blurry to clear a few times. You see Miria in a bad situation close to getting killed, you blur it out so badly you can't tell what happen. Things become clear again. Then something is about to happen to Clare who is the first person view at the moment, then ya have your final blur out. With this kind of things, as with writing, the execution is the key, but there ya have an inconclusive ending that will work quite well. :P The director of the anime made several bad decisions, IMO. Purple yoma blood in the Teresa arc is another low point of the anime. it would've been much better if the blood was red, making you think Teresa was slaughtering villagers like you did in the manga. then later, you show the bodies on the ground, the blood turning from red to purple, bodies from human to yoma; there ya have it.

Anyway, overall, the director did a great job on the Anime; There are a few critical parts where he messed up on. The series could've ended where it did, with most of the things happening as the did, and ended good if executed right.

Cyclone
2009-02-26, 04:26
I like someone else's suggestion earlier to the best way to have ended the anime. Take it faithfully to the manga all the way up until the ghosts save Clarice - show Miria, Helen, Deneve and maybe Clare looking on after Clarice comes to (or possibly as Nina's company departs to fight the ABs), and leave it at that. The gang is alive and free of the Organization. Should be adequate to hold fans over for a few years hopefully...

Ryuken
2009-02-26, 08:48
I like someone else's suggestion earlier to the best way to have ended the anime. Take it faithfully to the manga all the way up until the ghosts save Clarice - show Miria, Helen, Deneve and maybe Clare looking on after Clarice comes to (or possibly as Nina's company departs to fight the ABs), and leave it at that. The gang is alive and free of the Organization. Should be adequate to hold fans over for a few years hopefully...

Hopefully it will.:heh:

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-02-26, 08:59
was the anime scrpit being written around the time of Clarice?

ellifeedn
2009-03-01, 20:35
I was thinking of starting this series, but should I start with the anime first or the manga first?

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-01, 22:27
:D I started with the Manga first. I see the Anime as a compliment to animate the Teresa arc, Slasher arc, Endless Gravestones arc and the Witches Maw arc. The first part of the war of the north is also okay in the anime, but it starts slipping around the Rigaldo part.

Awakened
2009-03-01, 22:57
I was thinking of starting this series, but should I start with the anime first or the manga first?

I would say Series first, then manga. If you go manga first the series might not be that enjoyable.

The manga is way better, so go series then enjoy the manga.

Edit:
I read the manga first long ago, and I still haven't watched the entire series.

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-01, 23:11
:D I read the manga first, and enjoyed the Anime afterwards. You might want to stop at the war in the north part in the anime. I found the Rigaldo x Clare thing disappointing, with Clare not having her proper powerup, and then after that it is horrible.

Cyclone
2009-03-02, 01:49
My recommendation is, if you plan to do both, is first see the anime then read the manga. If you're only planning one or the other, then go for the manga.

@Gangsta: yes, Clarice was introduced in the manga prior to the end of the anime series. I think the anime ended around the time of Extra Scenes (so 6+ months later).

ellifeedn
2009-03-04, 15:32
^ Thanks for the advice. One more thing: I noticed how in the Claymore subforum there are a lot of abbreviations like "AB", "dod", "zacs", etc. Could someone list all of these and what they mean?

Guido
2009-03-04, 15:49
^ Thanks for the advice. One more thing: I noticed how in the Claymore subforum there are a lot of abbreviations like "AB", "dod", "zacs", etc. Could someone list all of these and what they mean?

AB: Awakened Beings

AO: Awakened Ones (Both terms can be used interchangeably and address Awakened the same)

MiB: Men in Black -This is what the people at the Claymore subforum refer to the people of the Organization, since all of them are dressed in black.

DOD: Descendants of Dragons - I believe this is the unofficial term that people at the Claymore subforum address the dragon-like creatures employed by the enemies of the Org. They can also be nicknamed the Dragon Kins or the Draconic Tribe by the scanlation groups.

ZACS: Zombie Amazon Claymore Strippers - This is the term how the people at this subforum first addressed the "Demons" before the manga gave away the official name of Abyss Feeders. That term makes more sense given that the Abyss Feeders look and behave akin to Zombies and all of them wander the lands with the bare minimum of clothes or nude at all.

AE: Awakened Eaters - Another substitute term for Abyss Feeders. The Claymore-like creatures created from flesh of deceased AB to hunt down and eat Isley.

And for the moment that's all terms and abbreviations I'm awared of.

Hope, this might help you. :)

MisterJB
2009-03-04, 16:03
AO: Abyssal Ones

Snider
2009-03-06, 09:30
Why Miria still has some color on her hair, is she a failed Claymore creation like Clarice? XD

hell88
2009-03-06, 14:25
Why Miria still has some color on her hair, is she a failed Claymore creation like Clarice? XD

Miria's hair looks like every other passing claymore.:confused:

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-06, 14:28
Yup, I haven't noticed anything special about Miria's hare, besides the shape and that she is cute with it. :D

MisterJB
2009-03-06, 14:30
Yup, I haven't noticed anything special about Miria's hare, besides the shape and that she is cute with it. :D

Hot and sexy. There's a difference.

Dietrich is cute.

Miria is hot and sexy.

hell88
2009-03-06, 14:32
Hot and sexy. There's a difference.

Dietrich is cute.

Miria is hot and sexy.

I don't think that has anything to do with what we were talking about...:eyebrow:

Snider
2009-03-06, 14:32
Miria's hair is sligh darker than the other claymores, light brownish :p

hell88
2009-03-06, 14:34
Miria's hair is sligh darker than the other claymores, light brownish :p

Not really, if you put it like that it's more of a dirty blonde hair.

MisterJB
2009-03-06, 14:34
Just correcting Gangsta...

But in the anime version, Miria's hair did look a bit coloured but you can't go with the anime.
Yagi colored Miria in chapter 79, go check. She is as blond as any other Claymore

Snider
2009-03-06, 15:45
Lol you mean the cover? Well, i dunno, but it looks slight different than the others. If you realize Clare is yellow toned while miria is dark yellow toned.
Have you ever looked at the dvd cover where Miria appears under the rain? yes...its clearly a brown hair. Its way too many coincidences :P

hell88
2009-03-06, 15:47
Lol you mean the cover? Well, i dunno, but it looks slight different than the others. If you realize Clare is yellow toned while miria is dark yellow toned.
Have you ever looked at the dvd cover where Miria appears under the rain? yes...its clearly a brown hair. Its way too many coincidences :P

Yes but hair always looks darker when it's wet.

MonsieurRosseau
2009-03-06, 22:08
I have a question.

Why are yoma so weak? I mean, Claymores are extremely superior to them, but Clare is distinctly weaker because she is more human than the others. So you'd think her power level would be more different from yoma than her compatriots, not less. Yet somehow awakened beings and Claymores both are insanely superior to plain yoma, even though their powers come from being only part yoma.

I mean, that makes no sense!

iLney
2009-03-06, 23:45
Think like this:

Iron: inferior material if not treated.

Carbon (coal): not so impressive (if not useless in most cases) as an material.

Steel: Tough!

Make sense right? :)

Now.

Yoma = Iron.

Human = Carbon

Steel = ABs, AOs, AEs, CMs, Teresa, Priscilla, Miata, Clarice.... depend on the composition.

Obviously:

Iron> Coal

BUT Steel >>>> Iron.

MonsieurRosseau
2009-03-06, 23:54
But what about Clare being naturally weaker than the others?

iLney
2009-03-07, 00:09
Because more Iron in steel doesn't make the steel stronger!

Also, the refining process is also vital. Even if you have the right ratio b/w iron/carbon, the product still blows if you do it wrong.

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-07, 03:27
:uhoh: A bunch of guys talking about Hair...

As for Carbon, it is most impressive


* *
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C
/ \
* *


Carbon is one of two elements ;) that has four connectors, and thus you can build life and more importantly explosives from it.

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-07, 03:39
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9751/miriades.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=miriades.jpg)


BTW, I don't see it. Looks like normal Claymore hair to me. :twitch: Now, I am continuing a discussion on hair...

Cyclone
2009-03-07, 04:39
Think like this:

Iron: inferior material if not treated.

Carbon (coal): not so impressive (if not useless in most cases) as an material.

Steel: Tough!

Make sense right? :)

Now.

Yoma = Iron.

Human = Carbon

Steel = ABs, AOs, AEs, CMs, Teresa, Priscilla, Miata, Clarice.... depend on the composition.

Obviously:

Iron> Coal

BUT Steel >>>> Iron.

But Carbon can also be:
Graphite, Buckyballs, Carbon nanotubes, and Diamonds
The last 2 are quite hard :p

MisterJB
2009-03-07, 06:17
I have a question.

Why are yoma so weak? I mean, Claymores are extremely superior to them, but Clare is distinctly weaker because she is more human than the others. So you'd think her power level would be more different from yoma than her compatriots, not less. Yet somehow awakened beings and Claymores both are insanely superior to plain yoma, even though their powers come from being only part yoma.

I mean, that makes no sense!

A hybrid is usually stronger just see this hibrid of a lion and tiger

http://www.maniacworld.com/liger.jpg

Altough, is copletely sterile.
Anyway, it makes sense that the AFs are much superior than ABs. They are to ABs what Claymores are to Yoma

Snider
2009-03-07, 08:45
Hmm...one question: How come Ricardo is not capable of destroyed limb regeneration if he is such a powerful awakened being? Both Priscilla and Easley can do that quickly and easy, even that idiotic AB that miria fought in the mountains could do it :p

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-07, 10:20
:D Ah that one is easy. Isley and Priscilla power levels are in the Abyssal Range. But even Isley is limited in regeneration, being an offensive type. In this last chapter, he was able to regenerate a lot while in human form, but us speculators think he wasted a lot of yoki, and that it contributed to his downfall. By the time he was fighting the ZACS he stopped regenerating. Also, the waves upon waves of yoki he was admitting when Helen and Deneve showed up to town, was him regenerating from his last encounter with the ZACS with great effort I presume.

The six armed awakened being probably was a defensive type.

iLney
2009-03-07, 17:45
But Carbon can also be:
Graphite, Buckyballs, Carbon nanotubes, and Diamonds
The last 2 are quite hard :p

But rare as hell. MAYBE RAKI IS ONE OF THOSE :D.

Beside: Pure Iron with perfect crystal structures and absolute 0% impurities is also a heck of a material. But again, this type of iron is even rarer than diamond, if not nonexistent in nature.

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-07, 17:50
Buckyballs :D I feel like I'm in skewl again.

Snider
2009-03-10, 08:50
This can be a tough question: what makes a claymore stronger than other?

Is it that the strongest claymores are made with the flesh of the strongest yoma? Or is the combination yoma flesh and different human bodies that makes the difference?

chibamonster
2009-03-10, 11:39
We do not know. There is evidence supporting multiple theories. For one, the MiB's talk about how Teresa was gifted with an incredible talent. In other words, her power stemmed from something about her, not something that the organization can control. Clare's experiment was to see if they could preserve that rare talent.

On the other hand we have the organization making Alicia and Beth where Alicia is recognized as an Abyssal. The two were specifically crafted through an intense program to become the weapon they were. In order to achieve it the organization messed with their minds and just about everything else.

So we do not know why claymores can be exponentially stronger than one another. There are several very interesting theories though.

Gattberserk
2009-03-13, 00:03
Anyway do you guys think there will claymore movie in future?


Now that manga like DragonZ can be made into Movie with all the caucasian (That pretty much ruin the whole damn series) I sense possible claymore movie in future since most of the character seem like caucasian (blond hair etc)

Vinak
2009-03-13, 00:23
ugh I hope not.
that live action DBZ movie looks Horrible!!!

besides, I wouldn't wish the role of Raki on my worst enemy... truly a fate worse than death.

Animated Movie wouldn't be too bad though.

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-13, 00:30
:D The point is pretty girls i claymore suits. Raki can be a dog.

Ryuken
2009-03-13, 01:29
At our current rate it is likely to be made an animated movie, maybe not right now, but it will grow in stature and who knows, maybe one day not it very distant future.:)

Cyclone
2009-03-13, 02:05
Do you really want to see Yagi's brilliant story massacred by hollywood. Were the live action DBZ trailers not enough for you to give you an idea what would happen to it? If you absolutely NEED a live action version, I'd prefer even for the porn industry getting their hands on it rather than hollywood.

Vinak
2009-03-13, 02:14
hmmm...Clayporn or Hollywood massacre.

I vote for clayporn

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-03-13, 11:40
:D Well if Raki is in Clayporn, my hatred for him would grow even more. Damn bastard. :frustrated:

MisterJB
2009-03-13, 12:56
besides, I wouldn't wish the role of Raki on my worst enemy... truly a fate worse than death.


One word. Clare

Ryuken
2009-03-15, 07:04
Do you really want to see Yagi's brilliant story massacred by hollywood. Were the live action DBZ trailers not enough for you to give you an idea what would happen to it? If you absolutely NEED a live action version, I'd prefer even for the porn industry getting their hands on it rather than hollywood.

Makes me wonder, now that you said it @Cyc, I have come across quite a few of the adaptation of anime to action movie thing. And found out that they were not even close to expressing the the real meaning and story of the anime or even the manga. For instance, Street Fighter was one of my all time favs but when they made the action movie, I almost lost it.:)

Gattberserk
2009-03-16, 02:51
Yeah looking at the background of Claymore world, it is set around the time of middle age of the western country...

I dunno, but if there is really a movie it will be very likely hollywood adapting it...



Dragonball is a epic failure cos the characters are asian based to begin with...



Jasmine Jassica Anthony as Riful anyone? :p

Karharot
2009-03-21, 12:49
In Darkness in Paradise Clace is using twin swords/daggers. Are they based on a real weapon or are they just something that author created himself? And if weapon like that really exist then what it is called?

Vinak
2009-03-21, 13:02
they look pretty similar to the Wakizashi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakizashi)

http://www.arscives.com/bladesignnew/images/JH-wakizashi-side-view.jpg

Newhope
2009-03-21, 13:09
In Darkness in Paradise Clace is using twin swords/daggers. Are they based on a real weapon or are they just something that author created himself? And if weapon like that really exist then what it is called?

There just katana style short swords.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7379/19804n.jpg

hell88
2009-03-21, 14:14
I don't know if anymore here knows this, but weren't the shorter katana's used for suicide to evade being captured as a prisoner of war?

I wonder if Clare was planning this, just incase.

Newhope
2009-03-21, 14:28
I don't know if anymore here knows this, but weren't the shorter katana's used for suicide to evade being captured as a prisoner of war?

I wonder if Clare was planning this, just incase.

No they mainly used a Tanto which is a knife to Seppuku, they did sometimes use a wakizashi but not as often as a Tanto.

Karharot
2009-03-21, 14:34
-> Vinak
-> Newhope
Thanks. The problem is that I'm looking for something that looks exactly as those
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/571/31392965.jpg
(no tsuba, the same shape of the blade and hilt) simply because i want to buy them:)
-> hell88
Wakizashi were indeed used to commit ritual suicide in order to save the honor of a warrior but they were also used as a weapon in combat.

FragrantFlora
2009-03-22, 08:22
Is chapter 90 gonna come out next month?

xris
2009-03-22, 11:24
Seem a reminder is in order on the purpose of this thread.
If someone has such a question about Claymore which can be solved by answering with facts from an official source, then please ask that question here.

Please don't post in this thread unless you are asking a question or answering one. Please remember that it only takes 1 person to answer a question. And don't speculate! You can only reply with cold, hard, merciliessly unforgivable facts.
It's not meant for discussion. Questions such as "Who is the better yoki-sensor" or "who would win" is going to be based on personal opinion.

There is no objection if you wish to discuss or speculate certain aspecs but this is the incorrect thread to use, one of the speculation threads would be better suited.

Gattberserk
2009-03-31, 07:41
Btw anyone knows how old are the people the organisation?


I mean look at Rubel... He been appearing since the time of Rafaela when Teresa was just a trainee...


And now 7 years after the War at the North he look just like he was when we saw him talking with Raf after Luciela was awakened... Ther is no sign of ageing...


Are they immortal?

Gattberserk
2009-03-31, 07:44
Seem a reminder is in order on the purpose of this thread.

It's not meant for discussion. Questions such as "Who is the better yoki-sensor" or "who would win" is going to be based on personal opinion.

There is no objection if you wish to discuss or speculate certain aspecs but this is the incorrect thread to use, one of the speculation threads would be better suited.


This would make more sense if we are able to create topic to actively discuss...


However the restriction resulted in limited option to choose which thread is suitable for any of such discussion...

Ryuken
2009-03-31, 10:07
Wow! Don't get me wrong, but I think that's a little bit harsh.:)

FragrantFlora
2009-04-02, 03:17
What are the advantages of an offensive warrior over a defensive warrior?

chibamonster
2009-04-02, 03:38
Attack Power. Clare knew Irene was offensive because of how powerful her attacks were. Defensive Claymore's can be tough, but it seems that an offensive Claymore's body changes to give them some special ability utilized through a technique of some sort (drill sword, phantoms, quicksword, windcutter, etc).

FragrantFlora
2009-04-02, 03:41
Attack Power. Clare knew Irene was offensive because of how powerful her attacks were. Defensive Claymore's can be tough, but it seems that an offensive Claymore's body changes to give them some special ability utilized through a technique of some sort (drill sword, phantoms, quicksword, windcutter, etc).

I see. Thanks chibamonster:). Defensive types get special and heightened regeneration techniques. Offensive types have special skills and a special name. Althought Galatea has both.

chibamonster
2009-04-02, 03:50
Most single digits get a nick name or at least want one. It seems defensive types are the minority, though living up to their title as defensive's 4 of the 7 claymores who survived the north were defensive types. The other three were partially awakened. Deneve was both.

EDIT: Even Deitrich has a nick name now, at least given to her by Galatea. Persuer Deitrich. Though homing missile Deitrich sounds good too.

MonsieurRosseau
2009-04-02, 18:26
What time of month does the chapter come out?

chibamonster
2009-04-02, 18:52
Usually the very first week of each month. Translations and scans differ when they come out, but usually within the first week you will have them.

Claymorez
2009-04-02, 20:22
I heard a rumor there wont be a 2nd season, is it true?

hell88
2009-04-02, 20:24
I heard a rumor there wont be a 2nd season, is it true?

Thats true, well as far as we know it is true.

Claymorez
2009-04-03, 06:05
Do you think fansubs ruined their profits?
Nobody will do a sequel of non-profit stuff :p

Sleepy Speculator
2009-04-03, 06:11
Nah the gecko ending ruined their profits, i don't think anyone has ever said they preferred the way the anime diverged. Consensus seems to be that it would have been better to play it straight and imply they all died. Thus sticking to the original storyline and allowing a second season to pick up the story afterwards.

Claymorez
2009-04-03, 07:43
Err...i was thinking they could release an alternative ending "The end of claymore" lol like the "the end of evangelion" :p

Gooral
2009-04-04, 11:57
In the latest chapter (90), did Galatea know Dietrich personally or did she only hear about her? According to cnet's translation she knew her but in shrimpy's version there are additional words "I presume", i.e. she didn't know how she looks.

Cyclone
2009-04-04, 12:34
In the latest chapter (90), did Galatea know Dietrich personally or did she only hear about her? According to cnet's translation she knew her but in shrimpy's version there are additional words "I presume", i.e. she didn't know how she looks.

Firstly, keep in mind Galatea-sama is blind.

She says:
seisekisha dietrich ka...
Pursuer Dietrich, is it?...
(the ka is basically a question mark. So "I persume?", ",eh?", ",huh?" - that kind of thing. I don't think she really doubts it - just sort of softening it from a "OMG - You're Pursuer Dietrich!!!!" type thing)

soshiki no meirei ni chuujitsu ni dokomademo shitagau yatsu da
The one(yatsu) who faithfully obeys/follows any Organization order.
(literally: faithfully follows order anywhere [the orders may lead])

omae no shitsukosa ni wa kurou saserareta yo.
your persistance has caused [me] some hardships!
(the [me] is left out becuase it's obvious - this is normal and common in japanese)

Gooral
2009-04-04, 13:07
Thanks for thorough explanation Cyclone :).

MonsieurRosseau
2009-04-05, 15:40
Hmm... Are the ghosts still considered Claymores even if they're not with the organization?

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-04-05, 15:44
Claymore is a word made up by the civilian populous of the Isle and not an official Term. It is a synonym for another made up unofficial term of "Silver eyed witch." Among the Claymores, they refer to themselves as warriors.

FragrantFlora
2009-04-12, 08:37
Is it Riyu Kosaka herself who sings the ending theme of the Claymore anime? I kind of find it hard to believe. The voice sounds manly.

Cyclone
2009-04-12, 10:38
If she didn't, she's darn good at lip synching...

NH0RIC_m5fc

nakaru_mizuki
2009-04-12, 11:01
wow.. she's pretty good live.

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-04-12, 11:03
:p It sounds less manly than the version on Claymore though. :D

Ryuken
2009-04-12, 13:16
She's pretty damn good.:)

Arkham
2009-04-13, 08:35
She deserves a mosh pit:p

hell88
2009-04-13, 09:57
She deserves a mosh pit:p

Yeah a real hardcore mosh pit!:heh:

FragrantFlora
2009-04-14, 05:00
Besides being a good tracker, does Dietrich have other skills? Cuz Galatea's skill could beat that any day.

Sleepy Speculator
2009-04-14, 05:21
Careful that's dangerously close to an invitation for a Galatea vs Dietrich thread. And those have been repeatedly denied, ask Cyclone...

And to answer your question, none that have been shown in the manga so far. Unless you count her stealing the Clarice Jump...

Gangsta Spanksta
2009-04-14, 12:14
:D I don't think Dietrich has what it takes to take down a #3. She was about to be taken out by that non-special AB.

MonsieurRosseau
2009-04-14, 15:59
She's about as strong as Tabitha, methinks. She still is less useless than Yuma (though, perhaps, just as cute), but not strong enough to compete with the Fab Four and Galatea.

Cyclone
2009-04-14, 19:45
Just give a vs thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=33519) already...

FragrantFlora
2009-04-14, 23:34
She's about as strong as Tabitha, methinks. She still is less useless than Yuma (though, perhaps, just as cute), but not strong enough to compete with the Fab Four and Galatea.

Haha. Love it!!!! "The Fab Four":p

arnold44
2009-04-21, 00:17
Nice song! Clap***Clap***

Im gonna ask if anyone has any Area 88 soundtracks available? The ones I have seen on YOUTUBE are badly recorded.

Many thanx....

shippU
2009-04-22, 01:58
I have a question about Galatea


How did Galatea lose her eyes? did i miss her explanation? From some posts i read it seems like she did it herself but haven't been able to confirm it.


Also, are those hobbit holes we see in Ch.68 p 90 supposed to be claymore rooms at the Org HQ?

Cyclone
2009-04-22, 02:32
How did Galatea lose her eyes? did i miss her explanation? From some posts i read it seems like she did it herself but haven't been able to confirm it.

Yes, she did it to herself. It's mentioned twice. Once in the side bar of one of the chapters (it wasn't translated in most scanlations), and once Galatea-sama herself told us (she was talking to Miria at the time, IIRC). Anyways, she made it clear it was self inflicted.

shippU
2009-04-22, 04:55
thanks, knew i'd missed it somewhere.

Ryuken
2009-04-22, 11:05
But as a result of that lost sight her yoki sensing is way off the charts, sensing things that no other can sense, only she can.:)

revan5
2009-04-22, 19:42
But as a result of that lost sight her yoki sensing is way off the charts, sensing things that no other can sense, only she can.:)

What I found most interesting is that Galatea couldn't tell who the Ghosts were until she heard them, supposedly proving her blindness. What gets me is just a few chapters before, she was out and about, literally running through a crumbling city, grabbed Galk, and even threw him with great accuracy at her opponent, Miata. If she's blind, how'd she do it? Humans don't emit youki, and her blindness should stop her from running anywhere. When was the last time you saw a blind woman running around in a crowded area?

That's right, nobody's ever seen it.

hell88
2009-04-22, 20:15
What I found most interesting is that Galatea couldn't tell who the Ghosts were until she heard them, supposedly proving her blindness. What gets me is just a few chapters before, she was out and about, literally running through a crumbling city, grabbed Galk, and even threw him with great accuracy at her opponent, Miata. If she's blind, how'd she do it? Humans don't emit youki, and her blindness should stop her from running anywhere. When was the last time you saw a blind woman running around in a crowded area?

That's right, nobody's ever seen it.

Actually I've seen it before, blind people use their sense of hearing to see. She ran a lot, but maybe she is used to the area. Also maybe she has learned how to use her ears like a bats, when her foot hits the ground when she moves it probably sends some sort of radar like vibration through the ground and whatever objects are in the way reflect back to her, the same with how she probably uses her voice and hears people talk. She didn't know Miria and the others were there until she heard Miria's voice and remembered her, from who knows where. Hope that helps.;)

revan5
2009-04-22, 20:43
Actually I've seen it before, blind people use their sense of hearing to see. She ran a lot, but maybe she is used to the area. Also maybe she has learned how to use her ears like a bats, when her foot hits the ground when she moves it probably sends some sort of radar like vibration through the ground and whatever objects are in the way reflect back to her, the same with how she probably uses her voice and hears people talk. She didn't know Miria and the others were there until she heard Miria's voice and remembered her, from who knows where. Hope that helps.;)

Well that's certainly a theory. However, when airborne, how would that system work? Galatea wasn't just running along the ground all the time. She was airborne a great deal. Certainly you aren't suggesting Galatea sees the world like a bat?

Now that's a funny thought. Big-eared Galatea screeching to provide her a good idea of what's around her. She'd certainly be an odd person to hear in combat.