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Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-12, 13:56
All I can say before this airs is that I pray to god they stay on theme and that the episode is paced better this time around (I noticed that Lucky Channel seemed to come way earlier than usual in episode 5 as well and I think at this point it is just a way to fill up time).
What I anticpate are Less Haruhi references, less advertisements, less wasted time and a new direction for Lucky Channel as well as sticking to relevant jokes about schoolgirl life and the oddities of the characters. With this I am willing to welcome this episode with open arms. There's also a possibility that episode 5 was a massive shift in a direction, because of new direction and that it was a botched attempt to ease people into the new directors style (Instead of an eased transition they basically rewrote the rules of the series from the ground up).
Personally I like the way it was going with the previous director, but I am open to this new director stabilizing things over the course of the next few episodes, which shouldn't be a hard thing to do. One of my favourite Gundam Series, Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory went through 4 directors before it was finished and sometimes you could instantly tell if a new director had taken over and it could be quite chaotic, but the series still managed to turn out very well, if not in the manner it was intended to originally, and characters such as Anavel Gato are now fan favourites. Lucky Star wouldn't be the first time I've seen this kind of thing happen or the first time I've been skeptical and alarmed at the change of pacing in a series so I'm willing to give it a chance to find its new groove.
I just hope that the new director isn't the type to roll over to executives when they push him to include commerical plugs and references to Haruhi and Fummofu which I might add are getting annoying. Its one thing to do references, but when its almost always the same series it gets old and irritating fast. See Bandai's obsession with working Mobile Suit Gundam in jokes at the expense of all of its other series into its Media (Games, Manga, Series etc) for an example of this. Even a Gundam fan like me eventually ends up chaffing and desiring for them to use anything else in their large stable of produced media.
CrowKenobi
2007-05-12, 14:56
Kaioshin:
Chill out, dude! :D It's only anime! :p
Anyway, here is some advice (take it however you will) :
AhAjrIAFiJ0
I just hope that the new director isn't the type to roll over to executives when they push him to include commerical plugs and references to Haruhi and Fummofu which I might add are getting annoying. Its one thing to do references, but when its almost always the same series it gets old and irritating fast. See Bandai's obsession with working Mobile Suit Gundam in jokes at the expense of all of its other series into its Media (Games, Manga, Series etc) for an example of this. Even a Gundam fan like me eventually ends up chaffing and desiring for them to use anything else in their large stable of produced media.Considering that Gundam is Japan's Star Trek, of course there's going to be references to it everywhere! :D
:cool:
All I can say before this airs is that I pray to god they stay on theme and that the episode is paced better this time around (I noticed that Lucky Channel seemed to come way earlier than usual in episode 5 as well and I think at this point it is just a way to fill up time).
What I anticpate are Less Haruhi references, less advertisements, less wasted time and a new direction for Lucky Channel as well as sticking to relevant jokes about schoolgirl life and the oddities of the characters. With this I am willing to welcome this episode with open arms. There's also a possibility that episode 5 was a massive shift in a direction, because of new direction and that it was a botched attempt to ease people into the new directors style (Instead of an eased transition they basically rewrote the rules of the series from the ground up).
Personally I like the way it was going with the previous director, but I am open to this new director stabilizing things over the course of the next few episodes, which shouldn't be a hard thing to do. One of my favourite Gundam Series, Gundam 0083: Stardust Memory went through 4 directors before it was finished and sometimes you could instantly tell if a new director had taken over and it could be quite chaotic, but the series still managed to turn out very well, if not in the manner it was intended to originally, and characters such as Anavel Gato are now fan favourites. Lucky Star wouldn't be the first time I've seen this kind of thing happen or the first time I've been skeptical and alarmed at the change of pacing in a series so I'm willing to give it a chance to find its new groove.
I just hope that the new director isn't the type to roll over to executives when they push him to include commerical plugs and references to Haruhi and Fummofu which I might add are getting annoying. Its one thing to do references, but when its almost always the same series it gets old and irritating fast. See Bandai's obsession with working Mobile Suit Gundam in jokes at the expense of all of its other series into its Media (Games, Manga, Series etc) for an example of this. Even a Gundam fan like me eventually ends up chaffing and desiring for them to use anything else in their large stable of produced media.
You need to calm down. It's not like you're so strapped for time that you can only view one series at a time, like I am. If you don't like the show, you don't have to damp everyone's view about it.
You need to calm down. It's not like you're so strapped for time that you can only view one series at a time, like I am. If you don't like the show, you don't have to damp everyone's view about it.
He's been like this since SuzuHaru, or maybe even earlier. Thank god I don't ever have to read his posts :D
Ascaloth
2007-05-12, 20:56
Kaioshin:
Chill out, dude! :D It's only anime! :p
Anyway, here is some advice (take it however you will) :
AhAjrIAFiJ0
:cool:
+REP for the best variation of what everyone's been trying to tell Kaioshin-chan since Day One!!! :D
I noticed that the Wikipedia article for Lucky Star states that the air date for episode 6 is Tuesday, May 15, instead of the usual Sunday. Does anyone have an explanation for this?
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 00:29
+REP for the best variation of what everyone's been trying to tell Kaioshin-chan since Day One!!! :D
What's with this thing you have going with giving rep to anybody in relation to stuff they tell me. Aren't there better things you could be spending those points on? Go play some Clannad, go on now, run along. :cool:
@Claies: I don't hate the show at all. I just happen to think that episode 5 sucked hard compared to the rest of the series and I'm hoping its not the start of a downturn.
@Arias: So you have me on ignore and you aren't even sure what I've said, yet you think you know who I am? Eh...... *Shrug*
Ascaloth
2007-05-13, 00:30
What's with this thing you have going with giving rep to anybody in relation to stuff they tell me. Aren't there better things you could be spending those points on?
@Claies: I don't hate the show at all. I just happen to think that episode 5 sucked hard compared to the rest of the series and I'm hoping its not the start of a downturn.
...what? AFAIK, this is only the second time, and I'm doing it because it's genuinely funny. Why, is it against the forum rules now? :confused:
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 00:34
...what? AFAIK, this is only the second time, and I'm doing it because it's genuinely funny. Why, is it against the forum rules now? :confused:
I count about 4 times though I can't remember which posts they were. Anyway, I'm not that amusing really, there's not much to gain from poking fun at me. Trust me. What there is fun to be gained from is that Clannad game you've got waiting. And where did you come from, you weren't even here a second ago and then you leapt out of nowhere. Your lurking in the shadows and its freaking me out man :uhoh: .
WanderingKnight
2007-05-13, 00:35
@Claies: I don't hate the show at all. I just happen to think that episode 5 sucked hard compared to the rest of the series and I'm hoping its not the start of a downturn.
Coincidentally, episode 5 marks the change of directors, a move by the animation studio that goes by the name of Kyoto Animation which you always seem to be trying desperately to bash to the ground.
Why do I feel that the info on the change of directors is slightly related to your heavy criticism of episode 5, and that you wouldn't have noticed anything if it wasn't for that announcement? :p
PS: Did anyone notice that, although the episode hasn't aired yet, it has a 1 rating in the poll? :heh:
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 00:46
Coincidentally, episode 5 marks the change of directors, a move by the animation studio that goes by the name of Kyoto Animation which you always seem to be trying desperately to bash to the ground.
Why do I feel that the info on the change of directors is slightly related to your heavy criticism of episode 5, and that you wouldn't have noticed anything if it wasn't for that announcement? :p
Actually I had completely forgotten the change of the director when I made that first post and review. I only remembered a couple of days ago. It probably had something to do with it being fairly unimportant to me. After thinking it over yesterday on a list of things I think may have caused the episode to go wrong its probably ranked right near the bottom. #1 is that I watched the wrong series prior to it #2 Is pressure from Kadokawa, #3 is limited production time #4 Is Poor writing that week, #5 Is poor storyboarding and #6 Is the director change.
I also noticed the 1 in the poll. It's something of an inverse of the 10 that used to appear in the polls for Haruhi episodes. Let's tar and feather him.
I think he just tarred and feathered himself as stupid (icon818) for rating an episode that hasn't aired yet :) ... trolling on a feeble level. Its quite possible he voted by accident though and I'm being harsh... I've accidently voted when I didn't intend to a few times.
Meh.. people are free to rep and/or ignore for any reason -- the only rules are against targeted harassment, either via negrep or posting.
I'm understand the comedy routine style being used in L*C (it really isn't terribly different than Abbott&Costello, not unique to japanese entertainment)... but again, I'd just rather see more of the 4-koma adapted, just my personal preference.
Maybe we should just give Ascaloth a rubber chicken and Kaioshin a cart full of cream pies and let them burn some energy off :)
I think we'll have to watch a few episodes and see if the director change really affected much since the series is probably storyboarded out for the entire 24 episodes (although I'm sure tweaking goes on all the time).
Ascaloth
2007-05-13, 01:12
I count about 4 times though I can't remember which posts they were. Anyway, I'm not that amusing really, there's not much to gain from poking fun at me. Trust me. What there is fun to be gained from is that Clannad game you've got waiting. And where did you come from, you weren't even here a second ago and then you leapt out of nowhere. Your lurking in the shadows and its freaking me out man :uhoh: .
4 times, huh? I can't remember what the other 2 times are.....:uhoh:
Although, what Clannad game? I haven't gotten it yet, although I've been trying to get the KeyFC-Chinese-translated version of it, with not much luck thus far; their servers aren't the best. Anyone can help me out on this? :(
Anyway, jokes aside, you should really learn to lighten up, dude. I mean, even Kagami bats the ball right back at Konata every once in a while. ;)
Maybe we should just give Ascaloth a rubber chicken and Kaioshin a cart full of cream pies and let them burn some energy off :)
Actually, I'm starting to wish Kaioshin-chan WOULD start throwing those cream pies back at me; one-way traffic IS starting to get boring after a while. :p
Like I said, even Kagami bats the ball back at Konata once in a while, and that's what makes L*S so great, no? ;)
Mirrinus
2007-05-13, 01:36
Kaioshin_dono's complaints of his victimization remind me a lot of Jean-Jacque Rousseau's later writings, like Reveries of a Solitary Walker, First Walk. Yeah, I have a rhetoric paper on Rousseau and Montaigne to write right now...
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 01:40
Kaioshin_dono's complaints of his victimization remind me a lot of Jean-Jacque Rousseau's later writings, like Reveries of a Solitary Walker, First Walk. Yeah, I have a rhetoric paper on Rousseau and Montaigne to write right now...
What victimization? I don't even know what some people are talking about anymore sometimes. Nobody's being victimized here. This isn't prison or whatever.
@Ascaloth: I'm not sure what to bat back, but I do in fact have a Rubber Chicken in my closet.
What's funny is how much attention all of you are giving to him, and taking away from Lucky Star in its own threads.
Ascaloth
2007-05-13, 01:55
@Ascaloth: I'm not sure what to bat back, but I do in fact have a Rubber Chicken in my closet.
Well, then you probably need to come up with something quick then, 'cause I don't think I'm the first, and I'm sure I won't be the last, person to treat you the way I'm doing now. You gotta learn to recognize that these jibes are really rather harmless, and that it wouldn't hurt you either to throw them back once in a while. ;)
WanderingKnight
2007-05-13, 02:01
What victimization? I don't even know what some people are talking about anymore sometimes. Nobody's being victimized here. This isn't prison or whatever.
I think what he meant by victimization is the paranoid attitude you have sometimes, talking about conspiracies of merchandising, animation studios, advertising, Kyoto Animation, Key, merchandising, Uguu's, moe, lolicon, Kyoto Animation, moe, Key, lolicon, advertising, ED songs, Kyoto Animation... did I miss anything? Oh, that's right, Kyoto Animation :D.
[/joke that hides truth :p]
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 02:15
What's funny is how much attention all of you are giving to him, and taking away from Lucky Star in its own threads.
The episode hasn't aired yet and thus we're cooling our heels. Wait a second I remember, you're the one who always kind of disliked me for the way I was in the Haruhi threads. Things have changed a lot since then.
@WanderingKnight: Is it really that bad. I guess it is. I thought I'd been doing a bit of a better job of not going after those thing all the time. I've relaxed a lot of my real annoyances regarding most of those things and have come to accept them in the same way that I normally come to accept things, and that is by letting them pass from the realm of annoyance to something I can poke fun at and be amused by. The only way to do that is to truly understand those things, which you dislike and that is another reason why I've been putzing around these forums for quite a while.
@Ascaloth: I have been hitting back. The go play Clannad jab, the "your bored so find something to do post" a couple days ago.
Ascaloth
2007-05-13, 03:51
@Ascaloth: I have been hitting back. The go play Clannad jab, the "your bored so find something to do post" a couple days ago.
Those were hitbacks? Sorry, I didn't realize. They flew right over my head. :p
Well, at least that means you have a good reason to continue following Lucky Star. Konata and Kagami can teach you a few valuable lessons in snark. ;)
Okay...I'll put this back on topic with unnecessary nagging.
Does anyone know why the next episode is scheduled to air on Tuesday instead of today?
Okay...I'll put this back on topic with unnecessary nagging.
Does anyone know why the next episode is scheduled to air on Tuesday instead of today?
It isn't. I have no idea where you got this wrong information. All the japanese sites show midnight as the first airing as always.
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A not so smooth drive
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"I just discovered another facet of Kagamin's charm."
There are more, of course.
EDIT:
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New character, Miyuki's mom.
EDIT 2:
This episode's ED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqa0YMA4j3Q
Source: 2chan
Anh_Minh
2007-05-13, 10:52
Does Konata have a buoy because she can't swim, or is it part of her lolicon appeal?
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 11:11
Beach episode. Make it count Kyoto. Also the ending sounds like a Beach Boys song, will they butcher it because its pure cheese or give it the star treatment because its sung by females. This could clear up some questions. Other than that, again there's potential for a lot of good jokes here.
The bathing suits:
I'm willing to bet Tsukasa doesn't have one because she is afraid of the water (Moe appeal and er stuff).
Kagami I thought would have had the least conservative bathing suit, but ends up in a one piece.
Konata has the classic Lolicon School Swimsuit/Innertube, which already has me somewhat amused.
Miyuki of all people has the bikini. Honestly I pictured her in an 1800's bathing costume, but she ends up the most revealing. In these cases though, if the character has cleavage they want to show it when they can. I'm not complaining, but it would be good if they discussed in the episode in the obligatory "What's she going to where?" bathing suit shopping /coming out of the change room sequences.
Woah... two pages already?
Kaioshin:
Chill out, dude! :D It's only anime! :p
Anyway, here is some advice (take it however you will) :
AhAjrIAFiJ0
Considering that Gundam is Japan's Star Trek, of course there's going to be references to it everywhere! :D
:cool:
Cookie for you, for lowering my blood pressure through laughter. :D
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A not so smooth drive
Woah, is that artstyle suppose to reference something?
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"I just discovered another facet of Kagamin's charm."
Princess Leia? NOOOO!
Sorry, but I was never a fan of hotbun-hairbuns. :p
Natch.
Woah, is that artstyle suppose to reference something?
I think it is a reference to Initial D.
Princess Leia? NOOOO!
Sorry, but I was never a fan of hotbun-hairbuns.
But but but... Chun Li!
About Konata's swimsuit, the mangaka have drawn her in that suit a lot of times already. She have not grown up since middle school or something, etc....
I think it is a reference to Initial D.
My first thought was Initial D too.
Konata's swimsuit: LOL.
I hope there's a better shot of Sensei in a swimsuit :D .
But but but... Chun Li!
Thats just what i was thinking. Hopefully we'll find out that Kagami's favourite Street Fighter character is Chun Li. :3
I hope there's a better shot of Sensei in a swimsuit :D .
Talk about hot.
I don't like Chun-Li either. :p Hairbuns are just something that I don't find visually appealing. :(
Cheers.
My first thought was Initial D too.
Konata's swimsuit: LOL.
I hope there's a better shot of Sensei in a swimsuit :D .
Does it count?
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Does it count?
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Yes, yes that does. :3
I don't like Chun-Li either. :p Hairbuns are just something that I don't find visually appealing. :(
I'm the same --- though i just hope there isn't a Star Wars joke or something thrown into this episode.
It is a full Initial D reference complete with eurobeat music and random commentary from people watching the cars.
Also... can someone explain the Kyoani rule regarding fanservice? Is it just no panty shots? This episode was filled with almost fanservice and other weird shots. Also, one very poorly drawn scene of Kagami's bathingsuit.
And nothing has really changed for those who were expecting zomg changes with the director change.
Edit: Okay one major change. A whole sequence of non-kyoani references. And what is Hiroshi?
~
Also... can someone explain the Kyoani rule regarding fanservice? Is it just no panty shots? This episode was filled with almost fanservice and other weird shots. Also, one very poorly drawn scene of Kagami's bathingsuit.
~
There's no rule about it. :heh: It's just that it has been a fan-observation that KyoAni has never done a "random" panty-flash (which tend to plague most anime). The skirts in their productions basically defy Newton's Laws. :heh:
It's either all-go or no-go with them.
Cheers.
About Konata's swimsuit, the mangaka have drawn her in that suit a lot of times already. She have not grown up since middle school or something, etc....
CORRECTION: Konata hasn't changed since 6th grade!
CORRECTION: Konata hasn't changed since 6th grade!
Oh, now I looked at wiki's entry to see how it is, when compared to French school system.
That's way younger than expected.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 12:56
There's no rule about it. :heh: It's just that it has been a fan-observation that KyoAni has never done a "random" panty-flash (which tend to plague most anime). The skirts in their productions basically defy Newton's Laws. :heh:
It's either all-go or no-go with them.
Cheers.
No the skirts in iDOLM@STER Xenoglossia defy newton's laws. Kyoto Animation just appears to use a D20 system to determine whether a panty shot will occur in a sequence. They also tend to make the fans salivate for a panty shot and then BAM! there it is after like 6 episodes. The impact is far more powerful than say the bizarre angles apparent in Shuffle!, holder of my Most Akward Panty Shot Sequence Of All Time Award, which involved Nerine (or was it Sia, whatever same basic character), a Vacuum cleaner and the rapid zooming in and out of the camera lenses. They also don't appear to be shy about having lolish girls in bathtubs, having high school students sit naked in a cave, and having girls pop their tops of Hockey Fight Style (Haruhi, Nayuki, Mikuru with help, Konata almost). From what I can tell you are infinitely more likely to see a girl topless in a Kyoto Animation series than you are to get a panty shot.
The idea that Konata hasn't developed since 6th grade (12 A.K.A the loli age): Sure Mr. Mangaka, sure... I believe you.... :rolleyes:
@Bayaob: Hiroshi Yamamoto is Hiroshi. Unless we are talking about Jeeg here in which case Hiroshi is a cyborg that turns into Jeeg's head. Also hooray for the prospects of possibly not having yet another Haruhi or Bonta-Kun reference this episode. It's about time they tried something else. They should have easy access to any Kadokawa published material to work freely with, so I hope they get on it.
@Bayaob: Hiroshi Yamamoto is Hiroshi. Unless we are talking about Jeeg here in which case Hiroshi is a cyborg that turns into Jeeg's head. Also hooray for the prospects of possibly not having yet another Haruhi or Bonta-Kun reference this episode. It's about time they tried something else. They should have easy access to any Kadokawa published material to work freely with, so I hope they get on it.
There is a scene where Kosaka picks up a shell and suddenly comments of "AIR" appear. They then suddenly switched to "Oh, it's Hiroshi lol".
There are still lots of full metal panic references and multiple Haruhi references. However, no Bonta-kun's that I remember.
Konata-chan
2007-05-13, 13:28
There is a scene where Kosaka picks up a shell and suddenly comments of "AIR" appear. They then suddenly switched to "Oh, it's Hiroshi lol".
Are you talking about www.nicovideo.jp? An hour after the broadcast ended, and people are already uploading episode 6 in its' entirety! Plus, there are so many comments posted in the video itself. The association of Tsukasa with "Balsamic vinegar" will never end. :heh:
Two questions:
1) Was the insert song played during Yui's scene the 4th OP to Initial D?
2) What is it with Konata and this commercial? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heOsWQC-Qr4)
I'll wait for the subs to express my opinions, have too much schoolwork to do.
Kinny Riddle
2007-05-13, 13:43
Wow, now it's Initial D's turn. Just seeing the CG cars drifting in the screencaps in Omni's site is enough to make me giggle. :D
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/05/13/lucky-star-06/
I'll be looking forward to the typical Eurobeat BGM that you normally hear in Initial D in that scene.
Edit: I take back that ill-advised "swipe" in white-coloured fonts.
The best part was the Initial D ref, complete with grainy anime and Eurobeat music. The night time scary story part was good, too.
The ending song was "Valentine Kiss" (1986) by Kokusho Sayuri of the group Onyanko Club, pretty much the 1980s progenitor of all female idol groups, especially Morning Musume. If anyone wanted to know what Kona was doing, she was acting like a fan at a concert, singing along and doing the chants and stuff. To this day, "Valentine Kiss" is still the #1 requested song to be played on Valentine's Day in Japan.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 14:17
Wow, now it's Initial D's turn. Just seeing the CG cars drifting in the screencaps in Omni's site is enough to make me giggle. :D
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/05/13/lucky-star-06/
I'll be looking forward to the typical Eurobeat BGM that you normally hear in Initial D in that scene.
No comment on someone trying to be the centre of attention in the first few posts. I didn't put him on my "Ignore List" for nothing, you know.
Well that does it, I'm going to go lie down over here now.
Also I don't understand why everybody keeps putting me on their ignore lists. Why don't people take me off so they can see what I'm actually saying for once instead of just assuming I'm "Trying to Be The Centre of Attention". I mean if I put everybody I disagree with on certain matters on my ignore list for this forum I'd have nobody to talk to. I also hardly think I do anything more than the average person who comes out swinging with comments on shows and isn't afraid to say what they like and don't like about a given episode. Also I can see white on this background very clearly, so I'm not sure why you tried to hide the comment.
I really don't want to get into it, but I'll never put anyone on my ignore list unless they're just flaming people or posting pr0n or whatever, but then they'd get banned anyways. And I don't think Kaioshin_Sama is trying to get attention - he just naturally grabs attention because he isn't afraid to express his opinions even when they differ from everyone else's. Well, that's my 2 cents anyways. :/
Now for episode 6, omg, L*S gets better and better.
There's something very satisfying about Tsukasa saying "oh baby oh baby", kind of like, I knew it would come to this day, when innocent Tsukasa would suddenly grow up. (j/k j/k :p )
I LOVE KAGAMIYA'S BUNS.... her hair, for the sake of clarification. I also like that they all changed their hairstyles for the beach trip. So often, anime characters go on their beach trip and their hair looks exactly the same. Ah, same goes for clothes. I'm always happy to see characters change their clothes every once in a while, and L*S has been doing a realistically good job of this - the girls are in different clothes each day (except when Kona sits at the compy for a week :) ). I hate seeing anime characters wear the same clothes throughout the whole series (I suppose unless they don't go anywhere other than school the whole time).
The single funniest moment for me was when Tsukasa was just getting done with the seashell bit... ahh, even in spoiler tags, I can't spoil the surprise. It's so shocking and funny. That part made me fall out of my chair. ;)
Miyuki and Tsukasa both come out even more. I'm surprised with Miyuki, particularly - everytime I make icons for each episode, I have to really scrounge around for unique Miyuki icons. She tends to make the exact same facial expressions and poses each episode, but just in different clothes (which explains why all my Miyuki icons so far have been very similar). Episode 6, she actually makes *new* facial expressions. I'm happy.
Ah, speaking of Miyuki, it's almost as if she knows that she's the resident encyclopedia. She did a little "a-hem" before starting her (very long) piece.
One more thing... Lucky Channel was more entertaining for me this time around than the last few runs. I get a kick out of violence in the background. :)
That's enough for now. :)
Noppapana
2007-05-13, 15:12
damn thats the best initial D parody i have ever seen and plus lots fanservice
this episode simply deserves a 10
I have no one on my ignore list ... it breaks continuity :)
Just saw the RandomC readout on ep 6 .... wow, looks like its going to be a winner from multiple levels (a lot of stuff from the comic... some riffs for "cultural reference" fans... extra "whoa" in the art/animation... a bit less L*C).
Meophist
2007-05-13, 15:56
Hrmm… oddly enough this is basically the first time I like the Lucky Channel section.
Deathkillz
2007-05-13, 15:59
looking at the screen caps i think im gonna enjoy this...
haha what the hell with akira giving us the "sign" + that face XD its strange and doesnt go one bit :twitch: :heh:
Noppapana
2007-05-13, 16:00
is it me or thepart between 07:44-07:48 reminds me of misato of eva ?
oww god , tsukasa is sooo cute :D
at the end with the karaoke
looking at the screen caps i think im gonna enjoy this...
haha what the hell with akira giving us the "sign" + that face XD its strange and doesnt go one bit :twitch: :heh:
I think that's what makes it so funny. We're left shokku-ed by her face and her giving us the (censored) finger. XD And I have to say, poor Minoru. Akira-sama's moved beyond just insulting him. :p
Oh man, and the car chase was so hilarious. I wanted Kagamiya to shake and plead Yui-neesan to slow down à la Chiyo-chan. "Ojiisan...!" Yui's face was priceless. Meanwhile the Kuroi-sensei party is lost. Aah, good times. :)
Daniel E.
2007-05-13, 16:20
I really don't want to get into it, but I'll never put anyone on my ignore list unless they're just flaming people or posting pr0n or whatever, but then they'd get banned anyways. And I don't think Kaioshin_Sama is trying to get attention - he just naturally grabs attention because he isn't afraid to express his opinions even when they differ from everyone else's. Well, that's my 2 cents anyways. :/
Well said Risaa!
I also dont have anybody on my ignore list. ;)
And it's good to hear that there's gonna be a little more Miyuki this time around. :D
Princess_of_Hell
2007-05-13, 16:51
Wow, now it's Initial D's turn. Just seeing the CG cars drifting in the screencaps in Omni's site is enough to make me giggle. :D
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/05/13/lucky-star-06/
I'll be looking forward to the typical Eurobeat BGM that you normally hear in Initial D in that scene.
No comment on someone trying to be the centre of attention in the first few posts. I didn't put him on my "Ignore List" for nothing, you know.
I loved the Initial D scenes. I didn't know that Konata's cousin was so into drifting. :heh:
What is Kagami saying (complaining-like) when the Initial D sequence is over??? >_<
StarvingArtist
2007-05-13, 16:52
Hello everyone, long time lurker/first time poster here. I felt like chiming in since this is one of the few places I can find that's receptive to Lucky Star.
I watched episode 6 on Nico Nico (almost 10,000 views so far), but I'm also waiting for some subs so I can fill in the blanks that I don't understand. There were some major Azumanga Daioh vibes in the first part, and I would have suspected Nanako to have the lead foot. I haven't seen Initial D, but it was still a funny segment to me especially after doing some follow up reading. Seems like she is driving a Subaru Vivio RX-R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Vivio) which is a 4WD car. I don't follow sport racing, but I'm pretty sure nobody uses 4WD for drifting/racing (at least seriously). To top things off, the speedometer was at 40km/h (25mph) XD.
A little more reading led me to this (real Vivio drifting): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7pvm2MMgok
I'm liking "Sharpshooter Yui" more now :3
Princess_of_Hell
2007-05-13, 17:02
I thought it was funny watching Konata expecting to wash her feet but instead getting a sudden blast of water on her head when before she was making fun of her school teacher getting water blasted on her head. :eyespin: :eyespin:
Did anyone happen to see Konata's face after she placed the soap on the floor???
I have to wonder how much time/money went to the Initial D race; it was incredibly well done.
Naked Konata looks like some kind of imp; I mean, because of all the hair :heh:. And her 6th grade swimsuit was just hilarious.
Again, I'll get more of it after the subs are out.
And welcome StarvingArtist.
Hello everyone, long time lurker/first time poster here. I felt like chiming in since this is one of the few places I can find that's receptive to Lucky Star.
I watched episode 6 on Nico Nico (almost 10,000 views so far), but I'm also waiting for some subs so I can fill in the blanks that I don't understand. There were some major Azumanga Daioh vibes in the first part, and I would have suspected Nanako to have the lead foot. I haven't seen Initial D, but it was still a funny segment to me especially after doing some follow up reading. Seems like she is driving a Subaru Vivio RX-R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_Vivio) which is a 4WD car. I don't follow sport racing, but I'm pretty sure nobody uses 4WD for drifting/racing (at least seriously). To top things off, the speedometer was at 40km/h (25mph) XD.
A little more reading led me to this (real Vivio drifting): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7pvm2MMgok
I'm liking "Sharpshooter Yui" more now :3
I feel like L*S is converting a lot of lurkers... :uhoh:
I saw the speedometer but it just totally didn't register with me - that's hilarious. XD
I thought it was funny watching Konata expecting to wash her feet but instead getting a sudden blast of water on her head when before she was making fun of her school teacher getting water blasted on her head. :eyespin: :eyespin:
Agreed; Kona's usually the one pulling the snide remarks and pranks that it's unexpected and funny when the joke's on her.
Did anyone else notice that when Kona was washing her hair, her cowlick was still sticking up through all the bubbles? :p
is it me or thepart between 07:44-07:48 reminds me of misato of eva ?
You're indeed correct --- thats who i'm reminded of also. Hard to say if its a reference, though its nice to see.
Crud...my laptop can't handle that 250MB RAW file (and if somebody can tell me why niconico asks me for something before seeing that video I'd much appreciate it).
But we get to see Yui road rage? This'll be awesome.
EDIT: Never mind. Got it to work.
Saw the bathing scene...there are SO many inappropriate jokes I can play on this.
WanderingKnight
2007-05-13, 19:21
Watched episode 6...
Now I wanna see the LC haters here... They're in for a hell of a surprise :D
z3phyr.mp3
2007-05-13, 19:32
i usually just lurk around episode discussion threads and read what other people had to say... i did it all through out haruhi and i thought i can just lurk through this one too... but i just had to comment on this ep...
and my comment is...
wow....
that episode was just wow...
i didn't understand much of what was said so i'm just talking about the episode visually speaking...
kyoani really likes changing their characters outfits...
i counted they changed outfits maybe 6 times excluding their birthdays suits...
i'll maybe comment more when the subs come out or i might go back to lurking...
overall i enjoyed the ep even if i didn't understand most of what was said...
by the way may i ask to those who understood the raw what led akira to show the finger...
or was it completely random?
Saw the bathing scene...there are SO many inappropriate jokes I can play on this.
Actually, the conversation in the bath scene are pretty deep:
1. The girls talk about how sticky their hairs get due to the salt in the ocean in which Miyuki begins to explain that the salt in the air and the UV rays can cause damage to the hair
2. Konata does an impersonation of Timotei* but the girls don't get it because they are too young
3. Yui and Nanako tries to start a conversation but it doesn't go well
4. Konata showing the Timotei impersonation once again to Yui who understands the joke, and Nanako quirping how old Konata is
5. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about getting rid of excessive...hair (implied: pubic hair)
6. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about their...cycles (implied: menstrual cycle)
7. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about...protection (implied: tampon)
8. Konata jumping in on the conversation in which Kagami assumes that perhaps Konata hasn't even started menarche yet...
*A Japanese commercial from the 80s where a hot blond chick washes her long hair in that fashion; unfortunately the youtube link provided previously isn't that commercial
Meophist
2007-05-13, 19:55
*A Japanese commercial from the 80s where a hot blond chick washes her long hair in that fashion; unfortunately the youtube link provided previously isn't that commercialWhy do I have a feeling I've seen this commercial?
Ascaloth
2007-05-13, 19:56
Wow, now it's Initial D's turn. Just seeing the CG cars drifting in the screencaps in Omni's site is enough to make me giggle. :D
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/05/13/lucky-star-06/
I'll be looking forward to the typical Eurobeat BGM that you normally hear in Initial D in that scene.
No comment on someone trying to be the centre of attention in the first few posts. I didn't put him on my "Ignore List" for nothing, you know.
NIGHT OF FIRE!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
I have no one on my ignore list ... it breaks continuity :)
Just saw the RandomC readout on ep 6 .... wow, looks like its going to be a winner from multiple levels (a lot of stuff from the comic... some riffs for "cultural reference" fans... extra "whoa" in the art/animation... a bit less L*C).
Well said Risaa!
I also dont have anybody on my ignore list. ;)
And it's good to hear that there's gonna be a little more Miyuki this time around. :D
I also don't have anybody on my Ignore list; but then again, I tend not to use that option when it's easier for me to go AKIRA-SAMA on someone. :p
.....wait. I now have something other than "HARUHI-MODE" to describe the Hyde side of myself! :D
Other otaku-ish references that I noted:
1. Initial D (obviously www)
2. Shooting a watermelon (Fullmeta Fumoffu)
3. Konata's reference to Mister Ajikko (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=2623) when saying "it's not that good as if to run in the beach wearing nothing but a fundoshi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundoshi)"
4. an event flag, reached a pivotal save point to obtain 100% CG (any generic galge or eroge) www
5. Singing "Danzen Futari wa Precure" at the horror story wwww
Japanese centric references:
1. Tsukasa's oyaji-gag "Yokkoi Shouichi" wwwww
2. Konata's Timotei impersonation
3. Konata's "U-n Mandom" refers to a Japanese commercial from 1970 in which a cosmetic company called Mandom hired an American actor Charles Bronson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Bronson) for that one single line and became an instantaneous hit
4. Sukekiyo, Inugami = Inugamike no Ichizoku, a mystery literary novel by Yokomizo Seishi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seishi_Yokomizo) which was made into several movies and TV dramas
5. Tsukasa hold the shell in her ear and her remarks "Tsukasa desu" = Hiroshi desu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshi_%28Owarai%29) wwww
6. TV: "Jissai kiite mita" = Sounds a lot like the TV show Hey! Spring of Trivia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey%21_Spring_of_Trivia)
7. Shiraishi Minoru at the end of LC: "Sono toki tokuhai-in ga mita monowa!!" (from the mid to late 1990s show Toukou! Tokuhou Oukoku)
Actually, the conversation in the bath scene are pretty deep:
1. The girls talk about how sticky their hairs get due to the salt in the ocean in which Miyuki begins to explain that the salt in the air and the UV rays can cause damage to the hair
2. Konata does an impersonation of Timotei* but the girls don't get it because they are too young
3. Yui and Nanako tries to start a conversation but it doesn't go well
4. Konata showing the Timotei impersonation once again to Yui who understands the joke, and Nanako quirping how old Konata is
5. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about getting rid of excessive...hair (implied: pubic hair)
6. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about their...cycles (implied: menstrual cycle)
7. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about...protection (implied: tampon)
8. Konata jumping in on the conversation in which Kagami assumes that perhaps Konata hasn't even started menarche yet...
*A Japanese commercial from the 80s where a hot blond chick washes her long hair in that fashion; unfortunately the youtube link provided previously isn't that commercial
I got the sticky hair bit and I knew Kona had to be referencing something with her hair (I thought that part was cute for Kona). And now I see why I didn't understand a word Kagamiya and Tsukasa were saying to each other. My Japanese book doesn't teach stuff like this (although it does teach readers what to say in cases of ecchi old men appearing :p ) :heh:
I'm interested in seeing that commercial, too.
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Lucky%20Star/Lucky%20Star%20-%2006%20-%20Preview%2002.jpg
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh god...this is just too good.
CrowKenobi
2007-05-13, 20:45
Did anyone happen to see Konata's face after she placed the soap on the floor???Yep! She looked like this:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8038/ndvd036kf7.th.png (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ndvd036kf7.png)
:heh:
Yep! She looked like this:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8038/ndvd036kf7.th.png (http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ndvd036kf7.png)
:heh:
Adorable, yet devious. <3 Kona makes some really great faces this episode.
Japanese centric references:
2. Konata's Timotei impersonation
Timotei was also sold in the UK. Here's two ads I found:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uL0Dlj6FNRc (at 2:38)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zB8eZFd3HEM (at 2:57)
Konata-chan
2007-05-13, 21:24
Shoot, got beaten.
Is this it?
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2072/timoteinb4.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=timoteinb4.jpg)
I'm still trying to figure out what the song in the Initial D parody is... Is it even an actual song?
Daniel E.
2007-05-13, 21:30
Watched episode 6...
Now I wanna see the LC haters here... They're in for a hell of a surprise :D
I knew Akira was not going to disappoint on the long run. :D :D
OK, good, besides Miyuki's hair explanation, my Japanese was decent enough to understand they were talking about body hair and periods. (Oh boy!)
And if I was understanding correctly, did Miyuki need a dental check up in the last scene?
Heh.. daily small talk into the "mysterious world".
There's a running gag in all the episodes that in involve "last half" or "missing noun" conversations, always with Tsukasa and Kagami where the implications are quite disturbing (froggies, it stinks, and depleted uranium).
Love that stuff...
I wonder where the hell the writer is getting the really old school stuff like "Timotei" and the first 2 ED songs from the 70s.
WanderingKnight
2007-05-13, 22:56
I wonder where the hell the writer is getting the really old school stuff like "Timotei" and the first 2 ED songs from the 70s.
Looks like you haven't watched Pani Poni Dash!. Lucky Star is amateur stuff compared to PPD.
(not that I'm implying LS is failing on something. I still love the show much more than PPD).
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 23:26
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Lucky%20Star/Lucky%20Star%20-%2006%20-%20Preview%2002.jpg
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oh god...this is just too good.
Yeah I don't know what's going on there but I kind of wish I was Kagami. :uhoh:
There should be the option for 11/10 FANSERVICE! for this episode that the final Shuffle Memories one had, because it looks like it earned it.
Princess_of_Hell
2007-05-13, 23:29
Actually, the conversation in the bath scene are pretty deep:
1. The girls talk about how sticky their hairs get due to the salt in the ocean in which Miyuki begins to explain that the salt in the air and the UV rays can cause damage to the hair
2. Konata does an impersonation of Timotei* but the girls don't get it because they are too young
3. Yui and Nanako tries to start a conversation but it doesn't go well
4. Konata showing the Timotei impersonation once again to Yui who understands the joke, and Nanako quirping how old Konata is
5. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about getting rid of excessive...hair (implied: pubic hair)
6. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about their...cycles (implied: menstrual cycle)
7. Tsukasa and Kagami talking about...protection (implied: tampon)
8. Konata jumping in on the conversation in which Kagami assumes that perhaps Konata hasn't even started menarche yet...
*A Japanese commercial from the 80s where a hot blond chick washes her long hair in that fashion; unfortunately the youtube link provided previously isn't that commercial
I remember back in the 6th grade when we had those talks in elementary school where they took the boys out of our classroom and all the other girls in the other 6th grade classes came in our room and talked about those issues Tsukasa and Kagami talked about.
Princess_of_Hell
2007-05-13, 23:33
Yeah I don't know what's going on there but I kind of wish I was Kagami. :uhoh:
There should be the option for 11/10 FANSERVICE! for this episode that the final Shuffle Memories one had, because it looks like it earned it.
There isn't a girl on Lucky Star that I can relate to unless there is a girl who is bigger and loves lolita fashion and clothes from Torrid. I can totally relate to Momoko of Kamikaze Girls and Ai from Princess Ai.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-13, 23:39
From what I can tell you are infinitely more likely to see a girl topless in a Kyoto Animation series than you are to get a panty shot.
*Looks At New Avatar* *Looks At Self* *Taps Own Head* :confused:
Okay sometimes I even scare myself with how accurate my theories can turn out to be. :uhoh:
CrowKenobi
2007-05-13, 23:48
*Looks At New Avy* *Looks At Self* *Taps Own Head* :confused:
Okay sometimes I even scare myself with how accurate my theories can turn out to be. :uhoh:Fixed! :D
When I hear "topless," I'm expecting full frontal nudity, not like the Monty Python sketch with tricky camera angles, hair and water (amongst other things). :naughty: :p
:cool:
I remember back in the 6th grade when we had those talks in elementary school where they took the boys out of our classroom and all the other girls in the other 6th grade classes came in our room and talked about those issues Tsukasa and Kagami talked about.
Also remember that the writer for this episode is a female (Aratani Tomoe), so she may have had experience on what kinds of things she and her friends had conversed about back in high scool.
Kinny Riddle
2007-05-14, 01:12
Oh dear. After being irritated by a fellow poster's constant grievings over this show, I made an ill-advised swipe at him in white-coloured fonts. After switching off my computer about half-an-hour, I began to regret doing that and considered editing my post, I decided to do it the following morning.
But the damage was done when the said fellow poster saw to my post first and posted his reply (which I did read).
I won't make any false pretenses here and act all holy and forgiving, I admit I do have issues with the remarks this fellow poster has made regarding Kyo-Ani shows in this forum, and this perception is not going to change overnight.
However, I will give this fellow poster the benefit of the doubt that he can be reasonable and that I acknowledge I may have been irrational in blocking him.
So Kaioshin-sama, I hereby offer my sincerest apologies.
Anyway, let us get back on topic concerning the episode.
Ascaloth
2007-05-14, 01:13
No the skirts in iDOLM@STER Xenoglossia defy newton's laws. Kyoto Animation just appears to use a D20 system to determine whether a panty shot will occur in a sequence. They also tend to make the fans salivate for a panty shot and then BAM! there it is after like 6 episodes. The impact is far more powerful than say the bizarre angles apparent in Shuffle!, holder of my Most Akward Panty Shot Sequence Of All Time Award, which involved Nerine (or was it Sia, whatever same basic character), a Vacuum cleaner and the rapid zooming in and out of the camera lenses. They also don't appear to be shy about having lolish girls in bathtubs, having high school students sit naked in a cave, and having girls pop their tops of Hockey Fight Style (Haruhi, Nayuki, Mikuru with help, Konata almost). From what I can tell you are infinitely more likely to see a girl topless in a Kyoto Animation series than you are to get a panty shot.
Missed this post earlier....
I'm curious. What did I miss here? I watched AIR (TV), I watched SHnY, I've watched Kanon (2006)....and with the possible exception of Mikuru (but then again, the only other piece of clothing she was wearing that time was her bra), I don't remember any pantsu, or to be more specific, "upskirt" shots.
*raises hands* No, NOT getting on your case here. I'm genuinely wondering where I missed a pantsu shot. :p
And as far as I'm concerned, KyoAni has the right idea. Why waste animation budget on a paltry upskirt shot when you can have so much more? :D
so many scene of Tsutasa in this episode...the interaction btw Konata and Kagami obviously got decreased.
Indeed, the new director has partiality for Tsukasa...
Was I the only one to notice a rather familiar music from Azumanga Daioh being played when Konata mentions about Watermelon busting on the beach?
Hmm, I wouldn't say anything about the new director yet until at least a few more episodes have passed. After all... Tsukasa wasn't doing too much in the first few episodes, so it's about time for her to get in some cuteness. :)
Edit: wontaek! You're the one who got me into utawarerumono rajio back when I was just a lurker. *bows*
Was I the only one to notice a rather familiar music from Azumanga Daioh being played when Konata mentions about Watermelon busting on the beach?
Probably because most of us are waiting for a fansub release :). I'm sure many of us will probably notice things after that.
2. Konata does an impersonation of Timotei* but the girls don't get it because they are too young
*A Japanese commercial from the 80s where a hot blond chick washes her long hair in that fashion; unfortunately the youtube link provided previously isn't that commercial
Oh wow, I remember that brand of shampoo and commercial, so freaking oooooold.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-14, 02:02
Missed this post earlier....
I'm curious. What did I miss here? I watched AIR (TV), I watched SHnY, I've watched Kanon (2006)....and with the possible exception of Mikuru (but then again, the only other piece of clothing she was wearing that time was her bra), I don't remember any pantsu, or to be more specific, "upskirt" shots.
*raises hands* No, NOT getting on your case here. I'm genuinely wondering where I missed a pantsu shot. :p
And as far as I'm concerned, KyoAni has the right idea. Why waste animation budget on a paltry upskirt shot when you can have so much more? :D
Yep Mikuru was it. Also I could swear something happened with Nayuki, but it may have just been another undergarment. Anyway bra's and panties, same deal when it comes to making fans satisfied.
I'm mostly just bewildered that I made the post about the D20 system they seem to use in deciding whether they will show fanservice in an episode and that immediately after 5 episodes of light to none they finally seem to have rolled a critical. Also the whole thing about you being more likely to see a topless girl before you saw a panty shot, I'm not entirely sure whether or not I was mind taking some Kyoto Animation employee with that one. Weird stuff going on tonight.
Ascaloth
2007-05-14, 02:32
Yep Mikuru was it. Also I could swear something happened with Nayuki, but it may have just been another undergarment. Anyway bra's and panties, same deal when it comes to making fans satisfied.
I'm mostly just bewildered that I made the post about the D20 system they seem to use in deciding whether they will show fanservice in an episode and that immediately after 5 episodes of light to none they finally seem to have rolled a critical. Also the whole thing about you being more likely to see a topless girl before you saw a panty shot, I'm not entirely sure whether or not I was mind taking some Kyoto Animation employee with that one. Weird stuff going on tonight.
Ah, I see. And it was a bra shot for Nayuki. At the very first episode, what's more. :D
I thought you were specifically talking about "up-the-skirt" pantsu shots....of which I'm pretty sure there was zilch of.
on the karaoke: doesn't Tsukasa's VA sound fluent at english?
CrazyPerson
2007-05-14, 02:47
I think the deal with Nayuki wasn't panties at all, but when they showed her bra in an early episode.
Also, I think that Kyo-Ani isn't rolling a die to determine fanservice, but is pushing fanservice at points where it would make sense to a high level. I guess it's to do with their policy of sticking close/improving slightly to the source material. Like, random fanservice say, during a study session, would be out of place and wonky, so they don't do it there. But when some fanservice appears in the source material, they ramp it up to suit the mood. They keep the service to a level where it suits the tone, removing it completely or turning it up. Like from the translation of Haruhi (chapter 2), Kyo-Ani removed the part where Haruhi reaches for Mikuru's skirt but then completely pimped Mikuru's costume rape through nice underwear.
So it seems like Kyo-Ani goes for the extremes, an all-or-nothing approach to it. That might be why it seems like it's random, but from my view, they're either not doing it or doing it right.
I'd assume the readers of the comic might object to going way off-base from the source material. One thing Kyo-Ani does seem to really stick tight with is not deviating from the spirit of the source material (even if they do a lot of plastering to make things fit together).
how do you guys see the new eps so fast?! I can find raws but no subbed versions yet.. Unless all of you speak flawless japanese...
Ffenix Rising
2007-05-14, 11:08
when will a.f.k's sub be out?
Never ask when the fansub (of this or any other series) will be available.
EDIT: Yeah it is established as a forum rule:
Because it'll be released WHEN IT IS READY.
Remember:
* Fansubs are provided for free. Therefore the fansub groups owe you NOTHING. Which means you have no right to demand anything.
* Fansub groups should be able to take as long as they feel necessary to release the next episode.
* Fansubbing TAKES TIME. It's not an instant process. It's amazing it usually only takes a few days for some anime, but don't complain when it takes longer. Remember, fansubbers have a life too.
* Before something can be fansubbed, it actually has to air first in Japan. So it's ultra DUMB to ask why there aren't a whole lot more episodes yet.
* Most important of all:
BE PATIENT. GET A LIFE.
ok duly noted, wont do it again
i googled for it and saw a link so i thought maybe it was out...
no im not stupid enough to click on a link that was there before the ep even came out.. i was just wondering if it was out.
how do you guys see the new eps so fast?! I can find raws but no subbed versions yet.. Unless all of you speak flawless japanese...
I need a subbed version! ep 6 looks so good from the screenshots ive seen! when will a.f.k's sub be out?
First, asking when a sub wil be out is "immediate ban" time, you might want to edit that post. Its easy enough to figure out the *usual* release day based on their prior releases. Subs can be delayed for weeks depending on the difficulty and the Real Life issues of the hobbyists.
Second, many people are watching raws. Many of them speak little japanese but just kind of wing it by visual context. Some are fluent enough to catch much of casual japanese, and some are fluent :) I usually don't watch raws because the files often run twice or three times as large as an encoded fansub file. It'd blow my bandwidth caps up.
First, asking when a sub wil be out is "immediate ban" time, you might want to edit that post. Its easy enough to figure out the *usual* release day based on their prior releases. Subs can be delayed for weeks depending on the difficulty and the Real Life issues of the hobbyists.
Second, many people are watching raws. Many of them speak little japanese but just kind of wing it by visual context. Some are fluent enough to catch much of casual japanese, and some are fluent :) I usually don't watch raws because the files often run twice or three times as large as an encoded fansub file. It'd blow my bandwidth caps up.
wow.. tough board..
I didnt notice the raw being too much bigger, and i doubt i could blow my bandwidth cap.. (im not even sure what it is, 20gb/month i think) I really cant stand watching something and not understanding the speech.. Thats just me i guess.
Heh... welcome to the board. Please a take a minute to read the forum rules and get familiar with the rep system, blahblahblah :)
Aye... I'm in the process of learning Japanese for a variety of reasons so even when I watch subs I try to ignore them unless I need a crosscheck on what I thought I heard. So I tend to prefer subs that are less liberal in the translation.
I'm stuck using a satellite connection for ISP at present, and they're very miserly with bandwidth (400MB transfer either way over 24 hrs or they smash you down to worse than dialup speed for 24 hrs).
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-14, 13:42
Heh... welcome to the board. Please a take a minute to read the forum rules and get familiar with the rep system, blahblahblah :)
Aye... I'm in the process of learning Japanese for a variety of reasons so even when I watch subs I try to ignore them unless I need a crosscheck on what I thought I heard. So I tend to prefer subs that are less liberal in the translation.
I'm stuck using a satellite connection for ISP at present, and they're very miserly with bandwidth (400MB transfer either way over 24 hrs or they smash you down to worse than dialup speed for 24 hrs).
Sounds like my ISP. Although they deny they throttle, I'm looking at it and sometimes its stable at about 150 Kb, and other times you can see it downloading and they'll cut off the peer connection, once it gets too high. You can literally see the drop off. Though with a large group of seeds it can by bypassed since the connections cycle so fast.
how do you guys see the new eps so fast?! I can find raws but no subbed versions yet.. Unless all of you speak flawless japanese...
And there are also people who are Japanese who lives in Japan so they watch it as it airs...
And there are also people who are Japanese who lives in Japan so they watch it as it airs...
why would they post on an english board?.. unless their first language was english i suppose..
For the same reason I might post on a Japanese board in Japanese??? Some japanese like to post on boards to practice their english and get an overseas point of view about a series (most japanese I know are intrigued that any Americans give a flip about their pop culture). :) For those that like previews and spoilers, it can be useful info :) Besides, we've got people from all over the planet posting here, many of whom don't use English as their first language :)
why would they post on an english board?.. unless their first language was english i suppose..
Because...they can, and English is cool too. They write perfectly, so who cares?
I'd like to point out that this topic is on Lucky*Star episode 6, not Kaioshin_Sama. I don't usually even care when everyone goes off topic, but even as famous as Kaioshin_Sama is, it's bothersome to everyone else who's trying to enjoy the show and talk about it when people stop the conversation to complain about him. I'm positive I'm not the only one who feels this way.
And there are also people who are Japanese who lives in Japan so they watch it as it airs...
I am anticipating this very, very much. I absolutely can't wait to watch it on the TV, when it first airs.
My issue with downloading every single release has been memory; bandwidth is not a problem for me... I've already deleted 6GB worth of anime on my hd to make room for L*S... ;_;
Edit: ...three four replies in the time it took me to write this. Curse my need to re-read and re-read again before posting. T_T
Argh... I'm still waiting for volume 4 because I combined it with an order for a few books that haven't released yet. And total agreement with the first paragraph.
I'd like to point out that this topic is on Lucky*Star episode 6, not Kaioshin_Sama. I don't usually even care when everyone goes off topic, but even as famous as Kaioshin_Sama is, it's bothersome to everyone else who's trying to enjoy the show and talk about it when people stop the conversation to complain about him. I'm positive I'm not the only one who feels this way.
You have my vote.
Anybody want to bet how soon a.f.k. will get this one out? They've gone over a wide range lately (from Tuesday all the way to Saturday).
Edit for below: Oh yeah, Risaa. You'll never get me. XD
Argh... I'm still waiting for volume 4 because I combined it with an order for a few books that haven't released yet. And total agreement with the first paragraph.
Are there any Japanese bookstores in your area (like Kinokuniya)? I went to Kinokuniya last month and asked for L*S - they just looked at me funny and said they didn't have it. Then I went two days ago and suddenly there's L*S 4 sitting on the shelf (I bought two copies, heheh). So even if your local Japanese bookstore doesn't have it one week, I recommend trying again in a couple weeks...
Edit: Claies! You beat me again! :p
Are there any Japanese bookstores in your area (like Kinokuniya)? I went to Kinokuniya last month and asked for L*S - they just looked at me funny and said they didn't have it. Then I went two days ago and suddenly there's L*S 4 sitting on the shelf (I bought two copies, heheh). So even if your local Japanese bookstore doesn't have it one week, I recommend trying again in a couple weeks...
Edit: Claies! You beat me again! :p
I indeed have a Kinokuniya in my area, but until recently they weren't very good about keeping the latest stuff in stock. I usually just order straight from Japan (a pile at a time to keep shipping reasonable). I suppose I should give Kinokuniya more support :)
I indeed have a Kinokuniya in my area, but until recently they weren't very good about keeping the latest stuff in stock. I usually just order straight from Japan (a pile at a time to keep shipping reasonable). I suppose I should give Kinokuniya more support :)
How's the shipping cost straight from Japan?
semi-offtopic til the episode releases: If I order one manga from Japan (to the US West Coast) from amazon.co.jp - typically it doubles the overall cost of the book (e.g. 990yen -> ~1800yen). If I order several books, it isn't so bad (I often order double copies and donate the extra to my son's japanese teacher's library) ---- but amazon.co.jp charges more for shipping than any other exporter and they've recently dropped all cheaper methods of shipping outside of trackable shipping. I'd rather pay for trackable shipping (EMS) on limited edition items like figures but for manga that's rather a burn.
On the other hand, a trip to Kinokuniya runs about 30 miles round trip (about 1.5 gallons of gas at $3.50/gal) plus time spent and their markup so it kind of washes out.
Am I the only one thik Miyuki‘s mom is a cute, clumsy, innocent, but extremely dangerous creature? I like her conversation and interaction with Miyuki such as the scene in this ep
It goes like:
Mom: Miyuki, before next semester starts you better visit the dentist.
Miyuki: You are right, but it just happens I dont feel to do so.
Mom: That is fine. It would be cruel to force you if you don't want. (Pick up a phone and dial) If you don't want to visit him, let me ask him pay us a visit instead. I am going to call the dentist to here.
As you might expect, amazon.co.jp has everything, but their shipping prices are the reason why I'll never buy manga there. There are a bunch of alternative sites to buy from with cheaper shipping, but they don't carry as much as amazon.co.jp.
If you're looking for goods related to an anime series, I highly recommend hlj.com... They ship by SAL or EMS, and their prices are pretty low. Unfortunately, you have to be quick because they're rather popular and run low on stock quickly for popular items.
So I'm not completely off-topic, I'd like to mention that episode 6 has made me realize that Tsukasa is the imouto everyone's always wanted. :)
Am I the only one thik Miyuki‘s mom is a cute, clumsy, innocent, but extremely dangerous creature? I like her conversation and interaction with Miyuki such as the scene in this ep
It goes like:
Mom: Miyuki, before next semester starts you better visit the dentist.
Miyuki: You are right, but it just happens I dont feel to do so.
Mom: That is fine. It would be cruel to force you if you don't want. (Pick up a phone and dial) If you don't want to visit him, let me ask him pay us a visit instead. I am going to call the dentist to here.
Miyuki’s mom joins the list of Nice Women Who Are Actually Evil - calling on her daughter’s behalf to make an appointment with the dreaded dentist? Can’t wait for Yukari to start terrorising Minami with her fan-girling.
Exactly. I still don't like ditzy characters, so what do I care...
If you're looking for goods related to an anime series, I highly recommend hlj.com... They ship by SAL or EMS, and their prices are pretty low. Unfortunately, you have to be quick because they're rather popular and run low on stock quickly for popular items.
Ehh...not a big paraphernalia person.
Daniel E.
2007-05-14, 16:01
Am I the only one thik Miyuki‘s mom is a cute, clumsy, innocent, but extremely dangerous creature? I like her conversation and interaction with Miyuki such as the scene in this ep
If she keeps showing up on future episodes, She'll probably end up being more popular than Miyuki herself. :heh:
Maybe she already is.. :eyespin:
Kaoru Chujo
2007-05-14, 16:26
how do you guys see the new eps so fast?! I can find raws but no subbed versions yet.. Unless all of you speak flawless japanese..."Flawless" isn't the right word, at least in my case. "Enough to enjoy the episode" may be a better way of putting it. And I can read the Chinese subs, which start to come out within 24 hours of the broadcast.
I, too, very occasionally post in Japanese on 2channel, only in much worse Japanese than the Japanese who post in English here.
By the way, with all the talk about KyoAni having no panty-flashes, has anyone mentioned the mass panty-flash in the OP? Also in the OP, I only just noticed that Tsukasa, Konata, and Kagami all wink at the same time at one point.
Pellissier
2007-05-14, 16:34
I'd like to point out that this topic is on Lucky*Star episode 6, not Kaioshin_Sama. I don't usually even care when everyone goes off topic, but even as famous as Kaioshin_Sama is, it's bothersome to everyone else who's trying to enjoy the show and talk about it when people stop the conversation to complain about him.
This pretty much sums up what I was going to say, and other than "bothersome" I'd like to add "extremely disrepectful" :eyebrow:
People here are trying to enjoying the discussion of Lucky Star, and this thread serves the purpose of discussing Lucky Star episode 6. Going a bit off topic for fun is fine, but I don't see the need to keep filling this place with off topic comments about Kaioshin_sama, and to turn them into personal attacks whenever a chance happens. If you have personal issues with another member, then bring them on PM, because here they are not appreciated at all. Doing that, remember that as first thing you're lacking of respect towards your fellow members.
I've deleted the latest off topic posts on that matter and I would like to bring the focus back on the original discussion solely. New off topic posts of that kind will be much less tolerated from now on.
ricerocket
2007-05-14, 16:35
speaking of the OP, the full song is out... at least on the internet
and the second half of the lyrics, how do i describe it... well, as kona said, it's 愛だよ xD
Mirrinus
2007-05-14, 16:54
By the way, with all the talk about KyoAni having no panty-flashes, has anyone mentioned the mass panty-flash in the OP? Also in the OP, I only just noticed that Tsukasa, Konata, and Kagami all wink at the same time at one point.
I think many people here differentiate between "panty flash" and "bloomers".
I think I'm going to miss the MMORPG references in this episode...at least there's still that Initial D sequence.
at least there's still that Initial D sequence.
More than the Initial D sequence, I've actually liked:
Poor Nanako-sensei getting lost while Konata is commenting about her... Well, I dunno, it was in raw w/o subs.
It is like "A driver who knows her way but is prone to road rage, or a driver who is way more laid back but bad with directions, choose your poison".
It managed to make me smile at a situation that is usually very frustrating in real life.
ricerocket
2007-05-14, 17:07
I think many people here differentiate between "panty flash" and "bloomers".
I think I'm going to miss the MMORPG references in this episode...at least there's still that Initial D sequence.
hah, wait til kona's dad shows up, then there should be whole truckloads of galgame references for ya (at least if kyoani sticks to the manga.... which they haven't done that much >.>)
semi-offtopic til the episode releases: If I order one manga from Japan (to the US West Coast) from amazon.co.jp - typically it doubles the overall cost of the book (e.g. 990yen -> ~1800yen). (SNIP)
On the other hand, a trip to Kinokuniya runs about 30 miles round trip (about 1.5 gallons of gas at $3.50/gal) plus time spent and their markup so it kind of washes out.
If you don't want to get nailed for shipping or driving, yesasia has free shipping and their prices are usually comparable to Kinokuniya. The only problem is finding the stuff on their site might require the ISBNs.
As for the release, roll a 1d6 and guess what day it corresponds to.
What's great about LS is how these girls' lives don't happen "in a vaccum," i.e. without adult supervision. How many times in a school anime do you think, "Where the hell are the parents?!" In LS, we actually see them, and they become a part of the story.
The Hiiragi family seems to be the most "normal," (probably the only thing abnormal being it has a lot of kids, four, and all girls), and their father seems to be fairly attentive, making sure his daughters study, clean their rooms, etc.
I don't think Miyuki's mom is "evil" per se, rather, she is well intentioned but ends up causing her daughter undue stress and anxiety.
Kona's dad, who we have yet to see, is the inspiration for his daughter's otaku-ness. Nuff said.
~
By the way, with all the talk about KyoAni having no panty-flashes, has anyone mentioned the mass panty-flash in the OP?
~
Those are bloomers, not panties.
Cheers.
Aye.. the inclusion of everyone's families really hikes this anime/manga up the scale in my favorites (no imaginary parentless world). They don't overshadow the main antics but they participate. ... kind of like just now, I threw a nerf arrow at my son to turn his music down a bit (mom is sleeping). He and I share an office: he's studying for AP Chem whilst I work on a mail server installation and goof off here.
Skane: Is *that* what they call those exercise briefs that cheerleaders wear under their skirts in Singapore? :) ((when I think of bloomers, I think of gothic fashion-style frilly shorts))
@bayoab: thanks... I'd dropped yesasia a couple of years ago after getting burned 4 or 5 times on limited edition items they said they had ---- then weeks would go by, they'd delay and then admit they didn't have it. By then everyone else was sold out. But I'll give them a looksee again.
What's great about LS is how these girls' lives don't happen "in a vaccum," i.e. without adult supervision. How many times in a school anime do you think, "Where the hell are the parents?!" In LS, we actually see them, and they become a part of the story.
The Hiiragi family seems to be the most "normal," (probably the only thing abnormal being it has a lot of kids, four, and all girls), and their father seems to be fairly attentive, making sure his daughters study, clean their rooms, etc.
I don't think Miyuki's mom is "evil" per se, rather, she is well intentioned but ends up causing her daughter undue stress and anxiety.
Kona's dad, who we have yet to see, is the inspiration for his daughter's otaku-ness. Nuff said.
Indeed...I hate how most series just think up some weird excuse (i.e. both working out of town all the time, visiting somewhere else, dead, etc.) to not have parents around. It's just poor excuse for upping the ante on sibling dynamics (and rapping to the fans/doujin artists about incest), and I'm sure we've had far more than enough of that.
This is the first anime I've ever seen that showed parents prominently for every main character in the plot (Akira's not in the plot). Prominently as in they aren't just given three lines to tell their children that they have a visit or a phone call in one certain episode and tossed off for the rest, but instead they actually had something to do with the conversation (and, holy crap, are shown on screen!).
Lucky Star is also probably one of the first to spend significant time to discuss a certain parent that is missing from the picture, in this case Kona's mother between Kona and her father. They'll probably never talk about Miyuki's father, who IIRC is just never shown, but we can probably assume from her massive family bankroll that he's just immensely busy. Besides, there's still her mother.
I'ts nice that L*S is involving the parents, I admit. It's convenient to just forget about mom and dad as is often the case in many online written RPGs I join (the people I play with have always been creative - parents are deceased, missing, have turned evil and have left, and in the case of my characters, never had parents but were created in a lab :p ). I think it's good for amateur story-tellers who don't care to become professional - it lets for a lot more freedom IMO if the writer is controlling underage characters (and you can cut the crap where the parents scold the kid lol). For anime, I do like seeing parents involved for series like L*S, which is about *average* kids going through life.
Ascaloth
2007-05-15, 02:29
Skane: Is *that* what they call those exercise briefs that cheerleaders wear under their skirts in Singapore? :) ((when I think of bloomers, I think of gothic fashion-style frilly shorts))
To outdo Skane-sama in "kiasu-ism" (yes, that's another Singaporean term ;) )...
The modern Japanese version of bloomers consist of the entire legs exposed and are pronounced burūmā (or burūmāsu) in Japanese. Many Westerners confuse Japanese bloomers with panties since their designs are almost the same in Japan, but bloomers are worn over underwear, are a bit thicker, and come in bold colors.
In other words, I pronounce Vexx-jij "t3h pha1l" in weeaboo-ism. :p
I think the general rule of thumb is that if it looks like it could be underwear but the girl is obviously unashamed of showing it, it's bloomers. XD My immediate response to the word is to think of a kind of frilly, loose, white shorts-type thing that usually goes under a dress (like what Dejiko wears underneath her dress), but I've been aware of Japanese panty-esque bloomers since the Chobits days. :)
Come to think of it, I've never seen those kinds of bloomers in any color other than dark blue...
Edit: Oh.. looks like the frilly shorts bloomers were already mentioned when I wasn't paying attention. *goes into hiding*
To outdo Skane-sama in "kiasu-ism" (yes, that's another Singaporean term ;) )...
In other words, I pronounce Vexx-jij "t3h pha1l" in weeaboo-ism. :p
He said it... now we get to tie him up and beat him mercilessly while we chant the "forbidden phrase" (that last word in the sentence).
I'm not objecting to the term "bloomers" ... its just kind of humorous considering their Victorian ancestors....
Ascaloth
2007-05-15, 03:05
I'm not objecting to the term "bloomers" ... its just kind of humorous considering their Victorian ancestors....
I'm sure the wifey will think nothing of it. Why don't you ask her and see? ;)
I indeed have a Kinokuniya in my area, but until recently they weren't very good about keeping the latest stuff in stock. I usually just order straight from Japan (a pile at a time to keep shipping reasonable). I suppose I should give Kinokuniya more support :)
If you ask them, most of the time they can get it in for you without the shipping charges.
joshualimm
2007-05-15, 07:22
It's prolly just me, but those eyes!!! Totally hilarious!
http://m1.freeshare.us/145fs832778_th.png (http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?145fs832778.png)
http://m1.freeshare.us/145fs831957_th.jpg (http://m1.freeshare.us/view/?145fs831957.jpg)
Can't wait for more... ooh, and the preview of Konata patting Kagami reminds me of Guu.....!!!!
@bayoab: thanks... I'd dropped yesasia a couple of years ago after getting burned 4 or 5 times on limited edition items they said they had ---- then weeks would go by, they'd delay and then admit they didn't have it. By then everyone else was sold out. But I'll give them a looksee again.This still happens. I usually use them for regular editions and "large run" limited editions and Kino for "small run".
The modern Japanese version of bloomers consist of the entire legs exposed and are pronounced burūmā (or burūmāsu) in Japanese. Many Westerners confuse Japanese bloomers with panties since their designs are almost the same in Japan, but bloomers are worn over underwear, are a bit thicker, and come in bold colors.
...That article has since disappeared. What did you do, Ascaloth? :heh:
Ascaloth
2007-05-15, 10:54
...That article has since disappeared. What did you do, Ascaloth? :heh:
Bloomers (Clothing) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomers_%28clothing%29)
It's still there, far as I can tell....
Bloomers (Clothing) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomers_%28clothing%29)
It's still there, far as I can tell....
Oh...they screwed up the disambiguation for "bloomer". Eh...time to be the good Wikipedian and fix it.
kenjiharima
2007-05-15, 12:41
Ahhhh...Finally the perfect ep! 10 for Fan service and a few slapstick fun with Kagami and Konata. Thee hee hee... :heh:
Though I only saw the raws you know the reason why I gave it a 10. *DIES OF NOSE BLEEDING* X_x;;
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-15, 13:21
Ahhhh...Finally the perfect ep! 10 for Fan service and a few slapstick fun with Kagami and Konata. Thee hee hee... :heh:
Though I only saw the raws you know the reason why I gave it a 10. *DIES OF NOSE BLEEDING* X_x;;
Damn you stole my sig idea. I was waiting for a bigger picture with the sub. You also stole my comments I was going to make. Ok I'm really going to have to take things to new heights in my take on the episode. Plus now I need a new idea for a sig.
DJ_RockmanX
2007-05-15, 14:15
a.f.k.'s sub of 06 is out.
a.f.k.'s sub of 06 is out.
awesome! nvm that earlier comment i was being stupid
i cant torrent on my current PC so i guess im stuck waiting for a stream.
*shokku* They've really upped the pace ne, twice in a row now. Now the ep 6 discussion will really start kicking up. :)
Releases come here (http://forums.animesuki.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)... though you could always wait until the main page is updated too.
eupseudes
2007-05-15, 14:17
@jaziek: Go to the source: http://a.scarywater.net/afk/
@jaziek: Go to the source: http://a.scarywater.net/afk/
i edited that post.. tis a shame.. but i cant torrent on the PC im using atm.. The stage6 stream will probably be up by tommorow night.. i hope..
eupseudes
2007-05-15, 15:09
I thought it was delightful. I didn't understand the "Timotei" sequence (Konata squeezing her hair). Hair product?
the song by tsukasa at the end is actually quite catchy.
Quite unique too having karaoke sequences instead of a standard ED everytime. I like it. But why do we only see the door. -.-
edit: btw what song is it anyway?
And does anyone know who Kuninama Sayuri is?
edit2: lol i found several versions of the song on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NxaME0-7pE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkXrWvw2-Gg (who was the original singer?)
Valentine Kiss. But I like the tsukasa version better
Its a good thing to read a few pages before asking questions -- one finds the questions answered already quite often.
The Timotei shampoo is a product that had a very popular commercial a few decades ago.... Kona is "re-enacting" it (thanks to her interest with the obscure) -- of course, none of the girls get it.
Kind of like doing a few lines from a Marx Brothers skit and everyone around you just looking blank.
Its a good thing to read a few pages before asking questions -- one finds the questions answered already quite often.
The Timotei shampoo is a product that had a very popular commercial a few decades ago.... Kona is "re-enacting" it (thanks to her interest with the obscure) -- of course, none of the girls get it.
Kind of like doing a few lines from a Marx Brothers skit and everyone around you just looking blank.
lol..
i actually have some timotei in my bathroom atm. I didnt realise the brand was that old.
eupseudes
2007-05-15, 16:12
@Vexx: Sorry about that. I struggled to get through the first few pages, skimming over the Kaoshin_Sama comments, and must have missed it. Next time I'll use thread search.
Anh_Minh
2007-05-15, 16:36
I really liked the Initial D sequence, but it all went rather downhill from there. :\
Also, how come nobody came to hit on Nanako? She's pretty hot.
problemedchild
2007-05-15, 16:53
It's a shame that A.F.K doesn't list or note all the references in each episode. Oh well, that's where this forum comes in handy :>
Deathkillz
2007-05-15, 17:12
Also, how come nobody came to hit on Nanako? She's pretty hot.
probably because yui was there :heh:
summer! beach! :D
the ep was pretty good on the whole though at times it seems a bit too much even for me...like not getting the "hair" part really got on my nerves >.<
the Initial D parody killed me XD yui the amazing speed demon with drifting skillz of a god haha XD
too bad kona wasnt quite right on the "sacrificing kagami and tsukasa" part lol ~
the bath scene was interesting...especially the talk between kagami and tsukasa...i have a suspicion that i know what they are talking about but refuse to say anything now in case im making an arse outta myself :heh:
kona + mask = omg :eek:
but lucky channel was just forgettable unfortunatly :/
For me, the highlights of the episodes were Nanako getting lost, that Initial D parody, Konata's pranks and that Tsukasa scene with the seashell. I'd also add that misunderstanding between Nanako and Yui about whether they were single or not.
Then the mundane or trivial things brought up in some conversations (like coming to the beach and expecting getting hit on by boys, or that period talk (it was tastefully done for it was suggested rather than being slammed in the watchers' face)) breathed some more life to the characters.
The other end of the conversation sprectrum too breathed life in the Nanako and Yui interaction, especially when the both women felt awkward for not being able to come up with a conversation topic; this felt even more uncomfortable for the both adults during the Miyuki's long speech.
Oh yeah. I rated the episode a 8.
PS: Poor pooor pooooor Shirashi. I just didn't know if I should be laughing at him being mentally scared (like how Mikuru was) or laugh at his situation.
Steel Guardian
2007-05-15, 17:54
So after watching the subs, Lucky Channel has some useful information about Konata.
:twitch: She's seventeen?!!! :twitch:
I think I'm the very last person to know about this, but she's SEVENTEEN?!!!
MakubeX2
2007-05-15, 17:56
So after watching the subs, Lucky Channel has some useful information about Konata.
:twitch: She's seventeen?!!! :twitch:
I think I'm the very last person to know about this, but she's SEVENTEEN?!!!
I can only say you're slow.
It's a shame that A.F.K doesn't list or note all the references in each episode. Oh well, that's where this forum comes in handy :>
Actually that's one thing I really, really hate about erm, *coughs* other releases. I understand mentioning things that the characters say, but when there are big blocks of translation notes at the top telling us how the poster is from Shuffle! or the music is from whatever series, it really gets on my nerves. I think those sorts of things should be better left to the subbers' website or the forums.
Well, IMO anyways.
Mirrinus
2007-05-15, 18:40
Episode 6 was tamer than I expected for everyone going "ZOMG underage nudity!"
I think I like it better when the show refers to anime and video games through dialogue than through sight gags (as cute as that Bonta-kun was). It elicits more of a laugh from me for some reason, like when Konata talked about blasting apart a watermelon with a gun at the beach. Although, that joke was probably even better simply because Kagami would have actually got what that refers to. ^_^
Last picture in the next episode preview also makes me hopeful for a Higurashi parody. We must have Konata go "USO DA!"
WanderingKnight
2007-05-15, 18:41
Quite unique too having karaoke sequences instead of a standard ED everytime. I like it. But why do we only see the door. -.-
You know about something called budget, perhaps? :heh:
Seriously, if they did an entire ED animation for each song, the overall quality of the episodes would get really low.
This episode gets a 9. I'm not old enough to get all the references, including Timotei (I guess that makes me a Kagami-type?), but the ones that I did get they pulled them off spectacularly.
Best moments:
- Initial D, and how Kona pretty much planned for the twins' misery but had it backfire on her. Her carsickness is actually somewhat funny too - I wonder if another episode would make her lose it.
- Swimsuit. 'nuff said.
- Tsukasa with the seashell: "I have nothing funny to say."
- Kona actually scared everyone with an anime reference.
- Why are the twins connecting their father with his umm...THAT?!
- I actually liked Lucky Channel a little bit.
Extra info:
- Kona has carsickness.
- Kagami doesn't find talking about food exciting at all (in fact she pretty much stopped Kona short in the first episode instead of provoking discussion)
- Miyuki's mother is evil.
Kagami was soft on Kona this time...she just asked about whether what the latter is doing is an anime reference instead of outright stabbing her on it. Maybe she did hit on a guy on the beach. XD
Kona in the ED is a riot. Again, I can only imagine Hirano Aya's face when she did it.
Last picture in the next episode preview also makes me hopeful for a Higurashi parody. We must have Konata go "USO DA!"
I'd rather have Konata losing it completely while carrying a bat around, which would 'cause Kagima to go missing without any trace behind it.
Oh, and maybe a battle on the rooftop?
Each to there own. :3
It elicits more of a laugh from me for some reason, like when Konata talked about blasting apart a watermelon with a gun at the beach. Although, that joke was probably even better simply because Kagami would have actually got what that refers to. ^_^
Gah...I feel like an idiot. Please tell me what that refers to.
Gah...I feel like an idiot. Please tell me what that refers to.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=945220&postcount=64
Not to get into a pissing contest over subs, but I sometimes like it when subbers put in extra notes for those of us not as into anime as the rest of us. Like I'm sure the public at large had (has) no idea WTF "Timotei" is.
Not to get into a pissing contest over subs, but I sometimes like it when subbers put in extra notes for those of us not as into anime as the rest of us. Like I'm sure the public at large had (has) no idea WTF "Timotei" is.
But Timotei has nothing to do with anime; it's just a shampoo brand. There's adults out there who never watch anime that would probably get this just about as much as otaku.
Anime Online
2007-05-15, 21:05
The Initial D parody was nice and funny, as others mentioned. Yui-chan and Kuroi-sensei both showed their hidden driving sides this episode. When the gang arrived, while Yui-chan and Kuroi-sensei were like "It's the beach!" and the other girls were like "We finally made it in one piece!"
I also liked the part where the twins were packing their room and started going through photo albums. And the part where Kona-chan was going how she'll go through old magazines? Yeap, those are so true, I've done that every time as well.
I think there's some truth in the beach house food scene. It's like going to some tourist-y places and the food there just seems better. In some ways, Lucky Star seems less like a comedy, but slice-of-life anime talking about everyday stuff in an entertaining form.
Lucky Channel is also pretty nice as well, with Akira-sama talking about the hardship of being an idol. The part where she kicked Shirashi underneath the table while keeping that angelic face is quite memorable.
Meophist
2007-05-15, 21:15
As for Timotei, it's an obscure reference that Konata is familiar with that is more than a decade old. You don't need to get the reference to get the joke, which is the fact that she's refering to something that's out of her age-range and in the older characters'.
I didn't get the reference when I first saw it and still found it funny, not to mention Konata-rashii.
Last picture in the next episode preview also makes me hopeful for a Higurashi parody. We must have Konata go "USO DA!"
Weren't happy with the way Konata was drawn in this ep when she was telling the story?
Samatarou
2007-05-15, 21:28
The adults-driving-them-to-the-beach-in-two-cars-one-of-them-being-a-maniac thing seemed to be lifted wholesale from Azumanga I thought, especially as one of them was their Yukari-like teacher (though at least she wasn't the maniac driver). The scary story scene was also rather like Osaka's lame one at the beach house I thought.
Shame there was no watermelon smashing, though it's true it does seem a waste of a good watermelon. Episode generally good though i thought, especially the seashell scene.....
Timotei used to be heavily promoted in the UK too, girl with long flowing hair, may have been the same ad Konata was aping, though all shampoo ads seem to feature girls stroking their long flowing hair like that come to think of it.... given the hair lengths of most of the characters, perhaps they could get some shampoo company to sponsor this series?
DragoonKain3
2007-05-15, 21:53
Wasn't there already a Higurashi parody already, albeit a minor one? From 2 episodes ago, at around 10:44 afk time.
Well anyways, I didn't like this episode. I got Inital D yes (that was a riot, most especially those random stand byers making comments), I got Fumoffu yes, I got PreCure yes (though admittedly, I don't watch enough of the show that while I got the reference, it wasn't funny), but the rest? I guess I'm a typical clueless male in that I don't find girl talk all that interesting.
Yeah sure, this episode made the girls more real, but I watch this episode for the comedy. Which I certainly didn't get, since a lot of the jokes this time around are either Japanese culture centric (while I have a dabbling knowledge in Otaku culture, I know next to nothing of Japanese culture), or makes more sense/funnier if one is a girl (period/tampon/wondering about dad's thingie). Heck, I didn't even get the food talk this time around, mainly because I rarely ever go to beaches and even rarer actually eat at a beach stand, because if I go to a beach, I'm eating hotel food. XD
ED though still is good though. Kona doing the 'back up' voice is too darn funny. XD
In any case, best hairstyle this time around is Miyuki. Ponytail with long side bangs is win, or so I hear. Worst is Konata, but then again that's just me having an innate hatred towards braids. Best animation was when Konata is putting her 'plan' into action, as that walk was hilarious. The mask was damn scary too. XD
Some questions.
-What the heck was the 'aiaiaiaYA!' BGM at around 5:20?
-What the heck was Tsukasa humming at the very beginning of the bath scene?
I'm not sure, but haven't there been a couple setups in manga/anime/etc. with girls in the tub talking about stuff like handling hair(I think they mean trimming the bikini line?) or dealing with the beach at that inconvenient time? Also, I don't know if it was a reference or not, but when Konata set up the soap, I immediately thought of the Fumoffu hotspring, where the captain slips and falls in a spread eagle concealed by some random bathroom object... I imagine this is something of a hotspring standard.
It looks like Akira likes Minoru more than she lets on, the way she threw him down and jumped on him at the start of her show... Of course most of that's below the desk where one is free to speculate. Maybe that's why Minoru was so freaked out. To be so thoroughly dominated by a hag in loli clothing, ouch. That's not even to mention Akira's closing line.
In case you haven't noticed, I've been watching too much of stuff like sumomomomomomo.
DJ_RockmanX
2007-05-15, 21:56
Some questions.
-What the heck was the 'aiaiaiaYA!' BGM at around 5:20?
-What the heck was Tsukasa humming at the very beginning of the bath scene?
BGM: Dunno...
Tsukasa's humming: Sounds a lot like the OP to me.
Konata-chan
2007-05-15, 21:57
The episode 7 preview thread made me quite like Kagami even more. She really does hit it right on the spot; I mean, who hasn't tried to pull a chipped nail a little too much (and ends up hurting badly), or pick on a scab too much and it ends up bleeding. One of my scars was a result of picking a scab a little too much, but how I actually ended up getting that scar is also linked to one of the happiest memories I've ever had.:D
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-15, 22:22
Well let's get crackin':
The Trip: Hooray its summer vaction and the cicada's are chirping the heat waves a showin. Two irresponsible adults in charge of driving them to the beach (I guess the teacher is really close to Konata since they are in the same party in the MMO). This isn't going to be pretty. Ah such a nice quite drive. AW NO THAT GUY DIINT'! Man this Yui is really the worst person for a police officer job, a loose cannon as well as a terrible shot. Haha Sacrifice Kagami, what is she an NPC now (Holy Smokes What Is Konata Wearing! :uhoh: ). Okay what the heck, SD car (DBZ Style). Cul De Sac. Baseball Field. Konata trying to pin the blame on other's. Eurobeat (sort of) aaaaaaaaand NOW! Yui an ugly ass Intial D! character. In fact everybody is. Er BLEEP D! acording to Kagami. Konata sounds kind of psycho now too, I think everybody is a bit crazy all of a sudden (This is the most Hot Blooded Kyoto Animation has ever gotten by a long shot).
The Beach: Cue the Kyoto Animation trademark searing light effect. There ya go, that didn't take long. Konata is apparentely wearing her school swimsuit for much loli appeal. God she's tiny. Okay the fact that Kagami doesn't know how old the swimsuit is is kind of scary. Just what is Konata anyway, some sort of loli weapon created to be unleashed upon an easily overwhelmed populace I'm willing to bet. What the hecks up with the life saver, she is a super weapon isn't she. :twitch: . I'd like to take this time to note that the swimsuit Kagami has had in all those images on the image thread does not make an appearance here. In fact she's the most conservatively dressed of all the girls. I'm not sure about Konata's reasoning as to why she's wearing the ring (sounds like a lame attempt to wash over the fact that she probably can't swim). However I do want to split the watermelon Musha Zaku Brothers style. Shooting it will not suffice however Konata, you must "Spit The Watermelon, Split The Watermelon, Split The Watermelon" (SD Gundam reference on my part). Yes Konata, Miyuki has normal eyes. Some serious thinking about the beach going on here and apparentely none of them can swim and must use Konata as a life preserver.
Eating (Lucky Stars Favourite Passtime): Random Butt Shot of Tsukasa who is discovering the joys of sitting down. I bet they're gonna talk about the screwy Ice Cream flavours Japan has now. Or Not, to them its probably normal. MY GOD Konata is rail thin! :love: Anyway Teach needs a little work on her enjoying beer exclamation. They talk about food in this series almost as much as they did in Kanon, yeesh. Oh and Kagami is NOT impressed with the food.
The Hotel: Ha Cold Showered. Konata you are just an idiot.
EYE CATCH!
The Showers: Some seductive humming (The opening theme actually). With the fourth wall broken again it's time for some showering. Hey it's the usual Buttsex style scene where greasy overweight businessmen are chilling in the showers, only here its the girls. I see Miyuki, Kagami, an extremely revealing Tsukasa and one of those Blue Meanies from the Beatles film Yellow Submarine. Oh wait it's Konata (My god her hair is so perfect :love:) . Explain us Miyuki. I'm not sure what Timotei means (The way she says it sounds like it has sexual connotations), but I think Konata knows how awesome her hair is. Teach asks Konata how old she is (Yeah I think by the end it will be revealed that she is actually 10 years old and is posing as a high school student). What she triggered a flag :confused: and is now breaking the fourth wall by making a save point. (This is actually hysterical to me for some reason even if the scene is a bit random). What is she doing HAHAHA (So frigging tiny and it's indescribable the jerky gorilla movements, What the Hell?!). Kagami has no idea what is going on (She's Mind Taking Me). Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :uhoh: . Speaking of :uhoh: what is up with that face Konata is making. HAHAHA Miyuki fell, but nobody was there to see it. Konata is may in fact be the devil sent to tempt and deceive her friends and the viewership with her loli looks and catchphrases. Holy Smokes Tsukasa is just as tiny (I should know this is the scene from my avatar). She's smooth apparentely (God Tsukasa you are killing me here). Oh my god are they talking about what I think they are talking about. AH! Where the hell did she come from. Good Lord!
Ghost Stories: So both Miyuki and Tsukasa are easily frightened (This gives me some ideas). AH NOT PRECURE! Seriously that's it? Hey Konata sleeps like me. If I were there I would escort Tsukasa to the washroom becuase I'm a gentleman :naughty:. AAAH It's an alien from Gintama. But of course it's just Konata. Man she is as evil as she is pocket sized.
The Beach: Tsukasa trying to seduce me again and in a rather bizarre and random way.
Back Home: GAME PENALTY! or is it, they seem to be making fun of the Otaku for being so easily suckered in. That's a plus.
Lucky Channel: Same ol!
Ending: Seems to be a Kanon reference in here. So they did kind of chop up an idol pop song for a change. Hmmm....
I find it hard to find much wrong with this episode other than the usual Lucky Channel which just isn't funny. Where last episode fell flat by having almost nothing to laugh about, this episode was almost as good as an episode of SD Gundam for me and was the first time that I've really felt Lucky Star has shined as a comedy series, that is it illicited genuinely laughs and appealed to my own sense of humour. This episode is what episode 5 should have been. Furthermore, it managed to take potential weaknesses that would grate on my nerves, and turn them into strengths. Couple that with the animation quality getting a boost, and a little fanservice and I think this episode deserves a 9.5, which will have to show up as a 10 on this episode. However it's really a 9.5. Easily the best episode of the series.
Tsukasa's humming: Sounds a lot like the OP to me.
I think it is the OP also.
Mirrinus
2007-05-15, 22:39
Looks like Kyoto Animation finally got lucky with their D20 roll, no? ^_^
Now if only Hayate would stop stagnating and start keeping up with how Lucky☆Star has been improving lately...
Ahn, it does seem like everyone enjoys episode 6 above the other episodes, and I'm no exception. (I like to skip straight to the Tsukasa-seashell part if I have a spare few minutes before leaving for classes... I can't get over how funny that part is. XD )
Off-topic, but I agree with your comment on Hayate. I haven't really been enjoying it lately... the first episode was very funny, but it seemed to go downhill after that for me. :/
Leo_Otaku
2007-05-15, 22:44
LOL as others said, best Initial D parody ever ^-^
As for Kagami and Tsukasa taking in the bath, for girls it is completely obvious XD
Pretty Cure story so funny reminds me when I think I'm alone and start singing DANCE Ojamajo Doremi >.>
Did anyone else catch that NGE reference?
Meophist
2007-05-15, 22:57
Well let's get crackin':
(This is the most Hot Blooded Kyoto Animation has ever gotten by a long shot)How about the American Football episode in Fumoffu?Okay the fact that Kagami doesn't know how old the swimsuit is is kind of scary.I think she does. However, she has a hard time believing it.
CrazyPerson
2007-05-15, 23:02
Good ep, the Initial D car-type chase was pretty funny, even if I hadn't seen the original. The animation style change was just gold, especially how they made it seem like they were going so fast (but the odometre was only 40km/h, that's 10 below the average in-city limit in Canada. Ha! Good lucky drifting at that speed). Uhhh....is it bad to be able to relate to Konata's fear of her normally good-natured cousin that will turn completely psycho at the wheel of a car? I have a psycho grandparent driver that will take on a devil's mind in a car too. It's like a Multiple Personality Disorder. Hey... if Konata's swimsuit means Grade 6, 3rd class, does that mean she hasn't grown for 5/6 years? (Assuming 6th Grade is 11/12 and she is 17 right now. Or the alternative is that she hasn't grown since Grade 3, 6th class... but no.)
Kaioshin, your post scares me. The Spoiler section was the most out-of-character thing for you to write ever. It seems like you had either bi-polar or Multiple Personality Disorder or something. Outside the spoiler...perfectly normal and fine, in-character post.
Telliamed
2007-05-15, 23:37
the song by tsukasa at the end is actually quite catchy.
Quite unique too having karaoke sequences instead of a standard ED everytime. I like it. But why do we only see the door. -.-
No one's going to complain about Tsukasa singing "too well" ?
Okay, so there's Konata playing the super-fan that distracts a bit from it, but listen just to Tsukasa and she really sounds like an idol. Is this out of character? I don't think so. She doesn't sound drastically different from her speaking voice. But more importantly, I think it's necessary that she be a good singer. It goes back to episode 4, when Kagami started singing, Tsukasa said, "Onee-chan is the better singer." Except that she's wrong. Not out of false modesty but simple innocence. Tsukasa's entire character can be summarized as "under-estimated". None of the girls think she's very bright, but she does well in school even with poor study habits, and was able to answer that Blue Hawaii question. She's too nice to admit it, though.
So it's fitting that not only does Tsukasa sing very well, but is completely ignored because of Konata's antics.
How about the American Football episode in Fumoffu?
~It's pointless, Meophist. His tunnel-vision is impregnable (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm).
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The following is based on [a.f.k.]'s fansub.
Random Thoughts on Ep06:
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Why are the license plates on the cars censored?
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Initial-D at 40km/hr... Also, I am wondering whether Kagami broke the 4th-Wall in this sequence?
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Kagami scores another 'victory' over Konata by pointing out the flaw of getting attention from otakus at the beach, leaving Konata at a loss for a comeback.
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Memories of Misato came back when Nanako-sensei did that beer cheer.
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Good gravy, the level of animation detail skyrocketed in this episode. That money-shot of the seagull was reminiscent of Air(TV), and all in all, it felt as though the animation budget for this episode equalled the first five combined (if not more). :heh:
What happened? Did their animators get frustrated from not being able to display their skills and talents? Were they frothing to go into overkill overdrive mode for Lucky Star?
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If they had tweaked Kagami's dialogue about the food banter just a wee bit, they could have directly poke some fun at the people who complained about the food conversation in Ep01. :heh:
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I was aghast at Konata allowing her hair to drag on the floor.
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Nanako and Yui switched roles in this episode, adding another dimension to their dynamics. This time, Nanako played the role of the 'fool' while Yui is the 'straight man'.
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Kagami's accidental confession that she wanted to get some flirting action. :naughty:
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What on Gaia's good green Earth were Kagami and Tsukasa talking about their father!?!? :twitch: That dialogue raised a lot of eyebrows. If I ever get daughters, and I overheard such a conversation, I would probably get a heart attack from the shock.
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The Ep07 preview just made my day. :heh:
Cheers.
Ascaloth
2007-05-15, 23:50
It's pointless, Meophist. His tunnel-vision is impregnable (http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm).
LOL, that made my day. I vaguely remember reading this list once....
So, Skane-sama, what am I then? :p
Wandering_Youth
2007-05-16, 00:04
Hmm, this episode left me scratching my head since I didn't get some of the references like the thing Konata was doing with her hair in the bathroom scene.
Lol, Konata was the little devil in the episode tripping Miyuki and scaring the crap out of Tsukasa at night.
problemedchild
2007-05-16, 00:23
Actually that's one thing I really, really hate about erm, *coughs* other releases. I understand mentioning things that the characters say, but when there are big blocks of translation notes at the top telling us how the poster is from Shuffle! or the music is from whatever series, it really gets on my nerves. I think those sorts of things should be better left to the subbers' website or the forums.
Well, IMO anyways.
I'd have to agree with you that having a massive blob of text on the screen for half a minute is annoying. A explaination at the begining of the episode would be nice though, something like what AnimeMPEG did with Ebichu.
Hmm, this episode left me scratching my head since I didn't get some of the references like the thing Konata was doing with her hair in the bathroom scene.
Lol, Konata was the little devil in the episode tripping Miyuki and scaring the crap out of Tsukasa at night.
The hair thing was a Timotei shampoo advert from at least 20 years ago (she must have seen it on Youtube then :heh:).
About the little devil thing...I thought she looked like an imp when she went to set the soap on Miyuki.
The adults-driving-them-to-the-beach-in-two-cars-one-of-them-being-a-maniac thing seemed to be lifted wholesale from Azumanga I thought, especially as one of them was their Yukari-like teacher (though at least she wasn't the maniac driver). The scary story scene was also rather like Osaka's lame one at the beach house I thought.
Shame there was no watermelon smashing, though it's true it does seem a waste of a good watermelon. Episode generally good though i thought, especially the seashell scene.....
People should keep in mind that almost all these skits and sequences are based off of the manga/4-koma --- KyoAni is not just making it all up.... okay, the depleted uranium is made up :)
The beach sequence is based on a collection of 4-koma all drawn together (sometimes the location is changed). Some parts are original (I don't think I've seen the twin's private discussion anywhere) and specific references sometimes replace more generic references.
I gave this darling episode a 10 between the animation and just plain goofiness.
Apparently, the twin's parents had a fairly racy photo album of their earlier days :)
... And I think Telliamed has nicely described the entity we call Tsukasa very well a few posts up ab0ve.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-16, 01:02
LOL, that made my day. I vaguely remember reading this list once....
So, Skane-sama, what am I then? :p
Biggus Dickus. No wait that's a character from Life of Brian.
In reality I'd see I'm closer to The Philosopher (http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/philosopher.htm), but really I'm just me.
Football isn't my sport anyway people. My sport is Hockey, being Canadian and all. I don't really like football at all actually, so to me it's not hotblooded.
@Crazyperson: I do this every episode actually. I step outside of myself to do a POV from the average fan sitting at home and watching, pondering the first thing that goes through their mind. In order to do this I switch off my Ego and let the Id take over almost entirely with my Superego sitting in the background waiting to activate should I need to institute a Game Penalty (Yu-Gi-Oh reference in case people have been wondering what the hell I'm talking about when I say that). The rationalizing comes after the spoiler.
Hey... if Konata's swimsuit means Grade 6, 3rd class, does that mean she hasn't grown for 5/6 years? (Assuming 6th Grade is 11/12 and she is 17 right now. Or the alternative is that she hasn't grown since Grade 3, 6th class... but no.)
Yes, it is 6th grade; scary/funny how Konata is SO underdeveloped. No wonder Kagami doubted about her, er, ... you know what (I can't find a good euphemism).
Why are the license plates on the cars censored?
I see this a lot in photos in japanese sites; I think they are very conscious about protecting other people's privacy, so they blur out faces, plates, tags with personal info, etc. So I think it was just to add some touch of reality (?) :heh: . Well, IMO. Made me smile nonetheless.
Kona is petite, waifish, has that HUGE mane of hair, and is aware of her "special tastes" status. There's a pic of her dad and mom somewhere in the manga.... (should scan/post that).
Wandering_Youth
2007-05-16, 02:25
Yes, it is 6th grade; scary/funny how Konata is SO underdeveloped. No wonder Kagami doubted about her, er, ... you know what (I can't find a good euphemism).
Ah so that's why Kagami made that shocked/surprised face of hers in the bathroom. I totally didn't understand that part when I first watch the episode.
Lol, I don't know why Tsukasa was so afriad of Konata when she did that Inugami Family thing. I laugh out loud when I saw do that weird upside pose. Heck, I find the real Inugami Family dvd cover funny to look at too. *shrugs*
http://www.twitchfilm.net/archives/pics/inugamifamily.jpeg
Oh yes, that scene near the end of the episode where it shows Tsukasa listening to the sea shell and after that is a reference to the Final Fantasy Advent Children with Cloud or something else?
ZODDGUTS
2007-05-16, 02:26
Wow! First time for this series had me laughing thorugh out the episode. The Initial D reference was made of win. Hopefully from now on the series will continue at this quality. Really looking forward to Ep 7.
The new director did a really fine job in this episode. Ep 5 was alright but it was neither better or worse then the first four episodes that the previous Director did. Looks now my hopes of the new Director taking this series to a new higher level might come true. :)
FatPianoBoy
2007-05-16, 03:08
I agree with Vexx - I think this was the best episode yet.
Some random observations:
I wonder how much that ******* D segment cost to make...
Also, drifting at 40 kph? Is that physically possible? :heh:
Getting lost/distracted to the point that, by the time you arrive at the beach, it's too late to swim. orz
Konata looking for anime cliches at the beach was fun. FMP reference, Miyuki's eyes, Konata's appeal to those with special interests, etc. No opportunity wasted.
I wonder if Konata wore that swimsuit because she thought it would attract guys.
The food conversation was timed a little weird.
Miyuki actually standing before and audience as she explained the chemical interactions of salt water and hair was hilarious. Even funnier was the fact that she became so focused on the explanation that she forgot that three people were staring at her intently whilst she remained unclothed.
The way Konata hopped and sneaked around to lay her trap for Miyuki was great physical comedy. That hair kills me.
Also, Miyuki actually fell for it :heh:
That was an awfully... private conversation between the twins... :twitch:
And excuse my bit of naiivete, but what did Kagami assume about Konata?
Did someone already explain the Japanese horror references? It's three in the morning and there are ten pages to look through...
Thanks in advance :D
Tsukasa: "I don't have anything funny to say. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa."
...... :eyebrow:
She got surprised by a sandcrab. "Onee-chan!!" "She just took a step towards growing up, Kagamin." I with the twin-tailed one on this: huh?
What kind of photos did the twins' parents take? :twitch:
"I hope that you've all become familiar with this segment!"
A little too familiar, I think :(
I keep waiting for something big to happen with Lucky Channel, and it always feels like it's about to happen, but it just hasn't done it yet. Akira flipping the bird and strangling and kicking Shiraishi (who appears to be genuinely fearing for his life now) came really close, though.
"Cute as a button and pure as snow! Know what I mean?"
:uhoh:
I think (hope?) Lucky Channel is beginning to head in slightly different direction, but we'll see. Maybe I should e-mail KyoAni with my Pinky and the Brain idea...
Was it really a sandcrab? I thought it was some random bug.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1603/picture1oe7.th.png (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1oe7.png)
@_@ Definitely not the same ones that I like to dig up. (Although.. the big ones I occasionally catch still freak me out. :heh: ) OK, now I've got to look into this...
http://www.whatsthatbug.com/crayfish.html
If you scroll down, the second one is the type of sandcrab I'm used to seeing, and the one right under... is that the bug that Tsukasa found? "Seacockroaches"... :heh: ...I'll just be over here getting a full-body Momo suit (with little holes for twin-tails to stick out) now.
I assumed that Kona-chan just never cared to get a new swimsuit... After all, if she wanted to buy a new one, she'd have to shop in the kids section and so she'd look like a 6th grader either way. XD
Anh_Minh
2007-05-16, 03:41
Extra info:
- Kona has carsickness.
Maybe not. That was just another Initial D reference. Konata was saying Mogi's like from when she and Takumi went to the beach.
Telliamed
2007-05-16, 03:54
... she became so focused on the explanation that she forgot that three people were staring at her intently whilst she remained unclothed.
They're all girls. They're in a bath. Nothing awkward about it.
Tsukasa: "I don't have anything funny to say. I'm Tsukasa. I'm Tsukasa."
...... :eyebrow:
Hiroshi (owarai) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroshi_%28owarai%29)
Forgive me if someone already posted this link. I can't remember if I saw it here or somewhere else.
Even though I didn't know the reference, I still found it quite funny. I guess it's because I knew the crustacean was coming next. I groaned when she picked up the shell. "Oh boy. She's gonna put it to her ear and the crap will pinch her. How boring... eh? Sparkles?" >floored<
What kind of photos did the twins' parents take? :twitch:
Don't all parents keep a photo album full of pictures like "baby's first bath"?
Just wait 'till the twins get boyfriends and they get invited over. They'll wish they had burned the photos when they had the chance.
ZODDGUTS
2007-05-16, 03:57
Not too sure about Lucky Channel either it's alright but the series can easily do without it. In the manga it doesn't look like it has a Lucky Channel but that idol girl does show up with another girl that seems to be a school nurse in their own segment. I wonder why they didn't put her with the idol girl instead.
Konata-chan
2007-05-16, 07:32
That was an awfully... private conversation between the twins... :twitch:
And excuse my bit of naiivete, but what did Kagami assume about Konata?
Kagamin thought that Konata hadn't begun her menstral because of her childlike demeanor.
Vallen Chaos Valiant
2007-05-16, 07:42
Not too sure about Lucky Channel either it's alright but the series can easily do without it. In the manga it doesn't look like it has a Lucky Channel but that idol girl does show up with another girl that seems to be a school nurse in their own segment. I wonder why they didn't put her with the idol girl instead.
Because it is funny to watch a guy being traumatised, but it is somewhat creepy when it is a girl? (Unless the girl is Mikuru, in which case it is okay.:heh: :p )
They needed someone to push around, that's all. Using the actor to play himself also remove the need to waste time introducing a non-canon character while minimise clashes with the manga.
kenjiharima
2007-05-16, 07:47
Damn you stole my sig idea. I was waiting for a bigger picture with the sub. You also stole my comments I was going to make. Ok I'm really going to have to take things to new heights in my take on the episode. Plus now I need a new idea for a sig.
:heh: Gomen I saw it first. And I just can't resist loli moe girls bathing. Episode wins perfect. Btw whoever voted 1 (Taking a quote out of Garfield the cat) "Should be draged out to the streets and shot!" >_<
^The one who voted for 1 isn't counted, since, the vote was made way before lucky star aired.
The preview made me cringe. it reminded me of horrible scabs turned scars... bad times bad times.
General_Asakura
2007-05-16, 08:50
the way konata sleeps reminds me of goku in dragonball when he was little, possible reference?
Meophist
2007-05-16, 09:17
Football isn't my sport anyway people. My sport is Hockey, being Canadian and all. I don't really like football at all actually, so to me it's not hotblooded.Yeah, well, I like Curling. Football isn't one of my favourites anyways. Do you happen to be one of those who goes to/watches Hockey games just for the fights?
Anyways, the Initial D refernce kinda made me wonder, why aren't there more racing anime?
Is Konata suffering from motion sickness? or is it just a reference as said in the previous post/overly localised subs? (03:40)
Meophist
2007-05-16, 09:51
Is Konata suffering from motion sickness? or is it just a reference as said in the previous post/overly localised subs? (03:40)
According to my brother, the main character of Initial D's girlfriend has said the exact same line. So I'd wager it's a reference.
I do get carsick when the driver drives as if it is a F1 race, I can understand what Konata meant.
So the line on whether it is a reference or not is very very thin.
Meophist
2007-05-16, 09:58
I do get carsick when the driver drives as if it is a F1 race, I can understand what Konata meant.
So the line on whether it is a reference or not is very very thin.
I was actually thinking the same thing, especially when Konata "sacrificed" the twins to her. It could be both a reference and her being truthful.
According to my brother, the main character of Initial D's girlfriend has said the exact same line. So I'd wager it's a reference.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
Though I'm not especially fond of Miyuki, it's hilarious how she failed miserably at attempting to 'siam' from the dentist ::heh: And she is showing her usual trait (exposition girl) again with explanation of 'sticky' hairs. I think I have learn new concept from her about the hairs being affected by salt water and UV rays.
Drifting at speed of 40kmh is rather suspicious if not unrealistic. I think she has modified her speedograph as the graphic indicates she is really speeding. :rolleyes:
^The one who voted for 1 isn't counted, since, the vote was made way before lucky star aired.
The preview made me cringe. it reminded me of horrible scabs turned scars... bad times bad times.
Icon818 (the one that votes '1') *acts* pretty civil in his posts... so I can only assume he's either confused about the ratings or low level trolling. He hasn't even posted in the threads here.
Actually, due to my half-sleep half-awake state i was in when i was watching the episode, i practically feel asleep during that explanation. Either way, general coments about the episode :
1) Initial D reference is great. Putting the cup full of water in the car ftw XD Now im just wondering where she got the cup and water from. I was half expecting there to be a scene later with someone stating that the food had not been shredded into pieces ( initial D tofu reference ) XD
2) Nice to see the teacher getting dug at by herself unintentionally XD
the way konata sleeps reminds me of goku in dragonball when he was little, possible reference?
I also thought that, though since the Dragonball franchise, i have seen many more anime characters sleep like that --- so its hard to say.
the song by tsukasa at the end is actually quite catchy.
Quite unique too having karaoke sequences instead of a standard ED everytime. I like it. But why do we only see the door. -.-
edit: btw what song is it anyway?
And does anyone know who Kuninama Sayuri is?
edit2: lol i found several versions of the song on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NxaME0-7pE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkXrWvw2-Gg (who was the original singer?)
Valentine Kiss. But I like the tsukasa version better
Either Konata mangled the name of the original singer (like she normally manages to mangle some words) or they purposely obfuscated it to avoid legal issues. krln99 posted the name of the original singer (and group) way back in post #42 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=944889&postcount=42).
The best part was the Initial D ref, complete with grainy anime and Eurobeat music. The night time scary story part was good, too.
The ending song was "Valentine Kiss" (1986) by Kokusho Sayuri of the group Onyanko Club, pretty much the 1980s progenitor of all female idol groups, especially Morning Musume. If anyone wanted to know what Kona was doing, she was acting like a fan at a concert, singing along and doing the chants and stuff. To this day, "Valentine Kiss" is still the #1 requested song to be played on Valentine's Day in Japan.
Here's a performance of the original artist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbKkcqe6P_g
And in the spirit of this episode, a shorter Swimsuit Edition™:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqa0YMA4j3Q
BTW, Kokusho Sayuri was member number 8 (http://www.idollica.com/kokusho/KokushoSayuri.html).
And why do I end up posting (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=935987&postcount=199) about 80's Jpop idol (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=937573&postcount=237) trivia?
I do get carsick when the driver drives as if it is a F1 race, I can understand what Konata meant.
So the line on whether it is a reference or not is very very thin.
Considering that the "driving" BGM is still playing while Konata makes the carsickness comment leads me to believe that this scene is still referring to Initial D as Meophist wagered.
Other random wins for the episode:
1) Tsukasa's singing is so cute the pancreas just liquifies....
2) The contrast with Kona playing the "otaku groupie who sings too loudly at the concert" .... <heh>
3) Shell scene is brilliant
4) The conversations in this episode are what the manga is all about .... from that perspective the series has totally hit the mark now.
I've lost count of the people who sleep all thrashy like Kona in anime/manga ... usually its the childish sorts that do it (Yotsuba, etc).
Nanako is quite the kitsune. Yui is okay but she's just not terribly fascinating in the comic either. I wasn't overly thrilled with the "initial D" sequence but <shrug> it was well done (complete with grainy footage). I'm just not as interested in obviously inserted "references".
Quite a fashion episode .... I was thumbing the manga last night noting how many different outfits they wear AND they change their hairstyles at various points (some of Kagami's are quite cute).
Also looking forward to the twin's visiting Konata's house at some point (and hilarity ensued).
Ascaloth
2007-05-16, 11:15
Finally watched Episode 6, and once again I was stuck with the [a.f.k.] sub. When [a.f.k.] becomes the most punctual subbing group for a particular anime, you know you've got a problem here. Can we get another group to come in on this, please?
Anyway, my thoughts;
1) Now they're going to be hounding KyoAni to make Initial D Stage 5. :heh:
2) About what Konata said to Sensei about her driving....I watched Initial D before, and I'm pretty certain that what Konata said was almost word-for-word what Mogi Natsuki said in Initial D. So yep, definite reference.
3) HOWEVER, I'm also pretty sure the Eurobeat sequence KyoAni used for the Yui-touge sequence is NOT the same as the one which Initial D used. Well actually, the starting of the BGM is similar to that of the first OP song used in Initial D Stage 4: Project D, but then it becomes a different song entirely.
Guess KyoAni hasn't acquired all the rights to it...
4) Oh, and whatever kind of car Yui's was, I'm pretty sure if you try to drift it IRL, it'll flip over. Too high a centre of gravity. :heh:
5) Before I forget, when Konata was talking about Sensei's good driving skills, Sensei herself was reading from a magazine that had "Kanagawa" as its title. Kanagawa Prefecture is an area which Project D visits, but is as yet unanimated, and the Kanagawa teams would probably be the first to feature against Project D when Stage 5 comes along. ;)
6) Tsukasa butt-action. :heh:
7) 08:12-08:15.
Kagami: "Hey. Does this food really warrant so much praise?"
Why do I get the feeling that, taken in another context, it's exactly the kind of thing that Kaioshin-chan would say?! :heh:
8) Miyuki is REEEEEAAAAALLLLY long-winded. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......
(no, I'm not going to mention Tsukasa's nakie sequ-I just did. :heh: )
9) I was feeling VERY uncomfortable when the twins started their "girl talk". :heh:
Is KyoAni catering to the ladies, now? :p
10) "Sukekiyo"? The hell is that?
11) 15:22-16:08.
Ascaloth Normal-mode: Wow, KyoAni really is blowing quite a bit of budget in this episode....
http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/12720/2003055955101455679_rs.jpg
STOP WASTING THE BUDGET ON LUCKY STAR AND START SAVING UP FOR CLANNAD, GODDAMMIT!!!!!!!
Erm.....ahem. :p
12) Hiiragi-otousan doesn't seem to be too concerned that his daughters are happily perusing photos of his days as a Chippendale dancer. And we thought Izumi-jiji was bad.....:p
13) Lucky Channel.......poor Shiraishi. Time for a cocky male bastard to come into the picture and match Akira-sama wit for wit. I nominate Tomokazu Sugita. :D
Oh, and......10 for this one. ;)
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-16, 11:29
13) Lucky Channel.......poor Shiraishi. Time for a cocky male bastard to come into the picture and match Akira-sama wit for wit. I nominate Tomokazu Sugita. :D
Yeah. NO! If he does the only way to save the show is for Akira to stomp him into the ground, in which case Akira will have won me over. Also Kyoto Animation isn't going to do anything with as many male characters as Initial D! Considering the last FMP OVA focused almost entirely on the most cutesy character in the series, I think it's safe to say they are done with men in their shows.
ZODDGUTS
2007-05-16, 11:30
Yeah, well, I like Curling. Football isn't one of my favourites anyways. Do you happen to be one of those who goes to/watches Hockey games just for the fights?
Anyways, the Initial D refernce kinda made me wonder, why aren't there more racing anime?
Well there's Wangan Midnight anime coming out next month looking forward to that series.
Overall, this is a better episode than the previous ones. I think that the fact that it's comedy is less reliant on references/homages to other works is a big part of that. For the first time, the backgrounds are given greater attention, and the framing of the "shots" is much more dynamic. Overall, I think that it's a big improvement over just a bunch of talking heads. Episode 6 also seems to have better cohesiveness and atmosphere than the previous outings. The only real downside is that the Lucky Channel segment still isn't doing much for me.
I can't believe that they put in a Timotei reference - I haven't seen those commercials for over twenty years!
The adults-driving-them-to-the-beach-in-two-cars-one-of-them-being-a-maniac thing seemed to be lifted wholesale from Azumanga I thought, especially as one of them was their Yukari-like teacher (though at least she wasn't the maniac driver). The scary story scene was also rather like Osaka's lame one at the beach house I thought.
I'm a big Azumanga Daioh fan, but I don't think that there's any lifting involved. Really bad drivers and beach episodes with scary stories have been a staple of comedy anime for quite some time. It's just that the Azumanga Daioh versions are just about the most memorable versions of these.
On the other hand, this episode of Lucky Star has all sorts of Azumanga Daioh vibes (even moreso than usual). Then again, I see that mostly as a good thing.
Tatsumiko
2007-05-16, 11:43
Hehehehehe....Konata and Tsukasa really are characters that do good XD
Thought they would make an Air reference...^^"..but maybe your right about the relying on other anime's thing...sometimes they gotta make it to a Lucky star original
but I really loved the Timotei reference!!! X3
Noppapana
2007-05-16, 11:45
okay its probably asking the obvious
but i just want to be sure ... what are tsukasa and kagami talking about in 16:50-16:57 ?
I'm guessing the extraordinarily animated glowy shot of the seagull with the ocean backdrop is all the "AIR reference" you're going to get. :)
I will bet the hotel is patterned after a real one (one I wouldn't mind staying at) ... it was kind of a grin to watch Kona float through what was essentially a "vacation of otaku-refs" fully aware of each one.
Kaioshin Sama
2007-05-16, 13:02
I'm guessing the extraordinarily animated glowy shot of the seagull with the ocean backdrop is all the "AIR reference" you're going to get. :)
I will bet the hotel is patterned after a real one (one I wouldn't mind staying at) ... it was kind of a grin to watch Kona float through what was essentially a "vacation of otaku-refs" fully aware of each one.
Those "Searing Light" shots are one of the things I don't like about Kyoto Animation's style along with their faces (Lucky Star being the exception, although even Konata's face got a bit weird in episode 5). Anyway, I don't care where you are in Japan, no light is that intense. I've walked away from many a Kanon episode with a mild headache from that searing light, and if any show is deserving of the "When watching Anime please make sure you sit blabla away from TV and blabla lighted room" thing it's their shows.
As far as "style" goes.... yeah, I suppose that's a KyoAni special .... kind of like you can look at a Ghilbli film shot and go "ah ha". I've been liking Gurren Lagann's willingness to put their subjects in patterned shadows - that with the rich colors really makes that show more vibrant. Episode 6 of L*S really came closer to that crafted look of depth in many sequences (no, not the CGI sequence). I have seen that kind of searing light at the beach down at San Diego or the Texas Gulf Coast... but rarely/never up at higher latitudes.
Kaoru Chujo
2007-05-16, 13:11
Having seen some people criticizing the a.f.k. sub, I wanted to say that I thought the translation was extremely good, very sensitive and inventive. A great example of the translator's art. I might have done some things differently, but so what. And I personally prefer to see explanations added in notes where necessary, but it's reasonable not to do that, too.
Although I don't get many of the references first time through, they are funny anyway. The racing sequence was like that for me. I've never seen Initial D, but it was hilariously well done anyway. Timotei was one thing I'd have been glad to see three seconds of note for ("note: 1980s commercial for Timotei shampoo.")
And I differ with Kaioshin again: Kyoto is at 35 degrees latitude (=Casablanca, Tehran, San Luis Obispo), and in my experience the light can actually be quite intense. Not that that matters, since this is art. In any case, I personally like those sparkling lights.
aye.... I would have just guessed "they're riffing on some racing game" if I'd not seen the posts saying "omgbbq, its Init.D). And the Timotei shampoo did rate a footnote, although again astute observers might have guessed it must be some product reference. Without the footnote though, Nanako's "How old *are* you?" remark could be mistaken the wrong way (i.e. asking if she was being immature).
Just to answer Noppapana:
16;50 .... its never *explicitly* stated in the comic or the anime,
but my guess has been that they were looking at a photo taken of twin-Dad while he was having a bath with the twins when they were young (family photo album fun). Kagami remarks that was the age at which she started noticing sexual differences.
Another random bit.... I *loved* the insane traditional music used as BGM around 5:20+ when Kagami and Kona are chatting.... at least PPD-worthy insane :)
9) I was feeling VERY uncomfortable when the twins started their "girl talk". :heh:
Is KyoAni catering to the ladies, now? :p
My very small comment on that: I think it was perfectly acceptable to add that in because it's what girls in a washroom might really talk about... I've overheard a few similar conversations at the place I sometimes go to. (Although I'm more of the type to skip the talking and just pouring cold water down your back... my sister HATES that; that she hates it makes me love doing it more. :) :) )
Just curious but what was that song that was played during the Initial D parody at the beginning of the episode?
a hobbit
2007-05-16, 15:28
haha i thought this episode was great^^ all the references were great, i liked the fmp one to the watermelon haha
Without the footnote though, Nanako's "How old *are* you?" remark could be mistaken the wrong way (i.e. asking if she was being immature).
But doesn't Yui say I remember that, like it's something out of the past?
What is Konata referencing when she talks about leaving her memories at school? (17:55)
Another random bit.... I *loved* the insane traditional music used as BGM around 5:20+ when Kagami and Kona are chatting.... at least PPD-worthy insane :)
Kousaki Satoru has created some awesome BGM's for Lucky Star so far, just like the one you mentioned. No surprise coming from the guy behind the Suzumiya Haruhi musical score.
Haneoka Kei is on a complete different level of insane (the man behind PaniPoni Dash, Negima!? & Rec scores).
Makes sense... I've got the PPD OST which has some BGM tunes that rank up there as some really *good* music parody of classic tunes.
Makes sense... I've got the PPD OST which has some BGM tunes that rank up there as some really *good* music parody of classic tunes.
Yeah, the BGM's fit perfectly with PPD's style so to speak. His score for Negima?! is just down right insane --- though i love. <3
Getting back to the score for Lucky Star. It may not be ground breaking, though its doing a wonderful job. I can't help but hum along to most of them --- i can never get some of them out of my head.
Thoughts on the ep post-beach:
Kagami shouldn't be so upset that her elder sister is dumping old stuff on her. Just give her a few years more and she can do what my own sisters did - randomly grab the outfit you want from sis's closet and never let her see it except when it's on your person. Sis will probably stop dumping clothes on Kagami if Kagami's stealing all the good outfits.
The whole album conversation sort of surprised me. I guess the mother must have seen something humorous in whatever had happened? I've heard plenty stories of girls around 7-9 randomly storming in in order to see what "it" looks like, or to show their friends. I think of comic Bill Engvall, who was in the shower when the curtain got ripped away and his nine-year-old daughter was standing there with her friend, and all she said was "See, I told you so!". While I've heard of crazy stuff, I've never heard of anyone bringing a camera!
Also, not to disagree with several people here but I prefer Kagami's singing voice to Tsukasa's, there's no depth or richness. She sounds just like an average girl singing karaoke, not an idol. And Tsukasa does NOT do well in school, unless one considers barely surpassing 50% on a test to be an accomplishment.
Bathtub pics of "the kids" are almost a universal thing. In Japan, it just so happens that bathing is a family affair ... so probably the shot is of dad in the tub with the twins when they were 3 or 4 (and not enough scrubbing bubbles).
I don't think Tsukasa is THAT dumb, or she wouldn't have been able to get into the same school as her sister. Her problem is she doesn't study, relies on her sister too much, and doesn't have the knack for cramming like Konata. In fact, her biggest problem is staying awake For example, notice in Ep 5 where Konata keeps on bugging Kagami for answers, by the last scene, Tsukasa is already sleeping at the table.
Deathkillz
2007-05-16, 17:31
I don't think Tsukasa is THAT dumb, or she wouldn't have been able to get into the same school as her sister. Her problem is she doesn't study, relies on her sister too much, and doesn't have the knack for cramming like Konata. In fact, her biggest problem is staying awake For example, notice in Ep 5 where Konata keeps on bugging Kagami for answers, by the last scene, Tsukasa is already sleeping at the table.
and if that isnt classed as a moe point i duno what is ~ fighto! tsukasa *snores*
yui and Nanako need their own spin off tbh...kick out LC and add "the mini adventures of yui and Nanako" ~ and that should last at least 5 mins per sketch :3
She sounds just like an average girl singing karaoke, not an idol.
That's what I like about it... These girls aren't supposed to be idols singing karaoke. :)
Kagami's got lots of school smarts but Tsukasa tries hard and isn't able to do as well... Granted, she doesn't try quite as hard as Kagami but she does put forth a decent amount of effort unlike Konata. Her cluelessness and her inability to stay awake to study really do add to her cuteness. Tsukasa appears to be good at housework and specifically cooking, which isn't without value either.... So you can say that it's true she may not be smart at school, but she's not necessarily a dumb person all around.
One thing I'm wondering about the conversation between Tsukasa and Kagami. I think we've fairly well established what Kagami was worried about happening that day, and what she suspected of Konata. But what is "that" that they refer to when they say using "that" makes you have second thoughts? If it's what I think it is I've heard that most concerns about it are misconceptions.
...kj1980...please remind me why you had to edit out the Kagami in Risaa's post.
...kj1980...please remind me why you had to edit out the Kagami in Risaa's post.
It's a slow day for me today, I suppose.
That and I'm partial to Kagami because of her tsundere-ness.
One thing I'm wondering about the conversation between Tsukasa and Kagami. I think we've fairly well established what Kagami was worried about happening that day, and what she suspected of Konata. But what is "that" that they refer to when they say using "that" makes you have second thoughts? If it's what I think it is I've heard that most concerns about it are misconceptions.
Probably.... tampons
TooPurePureBoy
2007-05-16, 20:21
Ok seriously, just wow. That part with the initial D like driving had me rolling on the floor. At first I was doubtful that this show would be good but it's got me now :heh:
I gotta get that techno song with the chick singing "gravity, gravity, gravity, etc" was awesome !
garra113
2007-05-16, 21:30
Who is kuninama sayuri :D?
Who is kuninama sayuri :D?
Konata is in fact talking about Kokushou Sayuri whose family name in kanji 国生 can be read as "Kuninama." Kokushou Sayuri was a member of the Onyanko Club (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onyanko_Club) idol group which was very popular back in the mid-1980s. Her roll call number was 8 (why do I know this stuff?)
(why do I know this stuff?)
Because you're the all mighty kj1980, who knows everything. :3
Timotei~
Ascaloth
2007-05-16, 21:54
Those "Searing Light" shots are one of the things I don't like about Kyoto Animation's style along with their faces (Lucky Star being the exception, although even Konata's face got a bit weird in episode 5). Anyway, I don't care where you are in Japan, no light is that intense. I've walked away from many a Kanon episode with a mild headache from that searing light, and if any show is deserving of the "When watching Anime please make sure you sit blabla away from TV and blabla lighted room" thing it's their shows.
Have you actually BEEN to Japan? Or anywhere outside Canada, for that matter?
Figures. And for the record, the sunlight in Singapore during the hot season easily beats KyoAni's light effects in intensity; therefore, light that intense IS possible. Besides, if you think KyoAni's light effects are searing, you probably haven't seen Toei's AIR The Movie, or the previews of Toei's CLANNAD The Movie, for that matter.
My very small comment on that: I think it was perfectly acceptable to add that in because it's what girls in a washroom might really talk about... I've overheard a few similar conversations at the place I sometimes go to. (Although I'm more of the type to skip the talking and just pouring cold water down your back... my sister HATES that; that she hates it makes me love doing it more. :) :) )
And yet the fact remains that I, as a guy, felt VERY uncomfortable listening to the more intimate aspects of girl talk. I felt rather dirty after that sequence, if you know what I mean. :p
Meophist
2007-05-16, 21:56
Timotei~This is annoying me. I keep on thinking it's saying "Timothy" each time…
Probably.... tampons
That's what I was thinking. I've heard a lot of stuff from various manga, movies, etc., but I've also heard that any fears or concerns concerning them are entirely misconceptions, aren't they?
Not to say I don't understand the reluctance girls must feel. If guys had something like that, even if necessary I doubt I'd think well of the concept.OK, I've had enough trying to figure out that conversation. I got enough of that sort of thing growing up with multiple sisters. I can understand girls talking about that in the bath or something, but I can't understand why they seem oblivious to men that are stuck with them. If MP3 players were available sooner, many car trips could have been improved.
Back to LS, I must admit I feel a little sorry for these girls. Seventeen years old and not a bit of romance in life. Give the girls a break and let them get a man!
It's an anime, not real life, and it's trying to portray a dream scene with Tsukasa in it. Please just get the hell over this retarded grudge and get on with it. It used to be funny with all the arguments and tsundere jokes, but this is becoming the first stage of a Youtube video comment thread's usual downward spiral.
Now with random thought: Why would someone like Nanako not have a boyfriend? O_o
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