Lucky Star - Episode 07 Discussion / Poll [Archive]

Pellissier

2007-05-19, 13:44

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Claies

2007-05-19, 15:11

Let me remind you all of this:

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Lucky%20Star/Lucky%20Star%20-%2006%20-%20Preview%2002.jpg

vaizard_ruler

2007-05-19, 16:06

im guessing yuri references with that pic ;)
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/killer_icer/glasses.jpg
Miyuki's Glasses = HOT

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-19, 21:15

Oh the plot of Lucky Star 07, what could it be? Little Konata molesting Kagami.

And of Tsukasa I wonder what. Will she continue to model her butt.

What will Miyuki do to make us applaud. Perhaps she will join the cheerleader squad.

Of the major characters, last but not least is Kagami. Will she stand up to Konata's taste for yuri.

orion

2007-05-19, 22:33

Lucky Channel becomes a minute longer with more Akira abusing Shiraishi. :joke:

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-19, 23:36

Claies

2007-05-19, 23:52

Anyone want to bet whether I'll be able to wait for a.f.k.?

DJ_RockmanX

2007-05-20, 00:05

a.f.k.'s been on top of things for the last two weeks. Don't count on it though. :D

Vexx

2007-05-20, 00:06

Heh, there's that Confused and Lonely guy again. Same fellow what gave Gurren Lagann 08 a 1 out of 10, although that one has aired (and is godly) and this one hasn't. Let's....hmmm tar and feathering has been done....rack....him...:confused: :joke:

Edit: Now that I look he's done it for every show that has a poll. Hmmmm.... doesn't seem to like anime at all. Then again, what do I care really.

One post to his credit (04jul06).... <shrug> troll ..... might be worth a report to the mods but as they say.. polls are just for fun anyway --- so its more him destroying any credibility he might have.

robertness

2007-05-20, 01:42

Since he's posted a one point reply in every poll, I guess it's an undocumented feature (what some folks would call a bug) in the forum software. It would be too much effort for most trolls or lurkers to pounce on every newly opened poll.

Daniel E.

2007-05-20, 01:50

One post to his credit (04jul06).... <shrug> troll ..... might be worth a report to the mods but as they say.. polls are just for fun anyway --- so its more him destroying any credibility he might have.

Might be worth checking if he is using multiple accounts as well.

I can't shake the feeling that this may be related to that other Icon818 dude from the other day. :eyebrow:

Pellissier

2007-05-20, 02:10

Might be worth checking if he is using multiple accounts as well.
Don't worry, I gave a quick check and no relations that I could see :)

might be worth a report to the mods but as they say.. polls are just for fun anyway --- so its more him destroying any credibility he might have.
Yes, that would be the way I'd also suggest. While voting "1" imho is always a bit questionable, voting before the episode airs.. I think it says it all. Technically the vote might be deleted, but why not let it where it is and just have a good laugh ? :)

Ascaloth

2007-05-20, 02:15

Might be worth checking if he is using multiple accounts as well.

I can't shake the feeling that this may be related to that other Icon818 dude from the other day. :eyebrow:

For me, I've got this feeling it's actually a bot...that is, if there's someone out there who would make a bot that does this kind of thing for whatever reason, in the first place.

Risaa

2007-05-20, 02:31

I think a neat little test would be if the next poll were made backwards - instead of it starting with 10 and ending at 1, it start at 1 then end with 10. If what gets voted is the very bottom - the 10 - then that means chances are, it isn't a human voting (unless he/she saw what I just wrote and then voted 10 simply to mess us up... but that's unlikely :p ).

Nemo_N

2007-05-20, 02:46

Let me remind you all of this:

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Lucky%20Star/Lucky%20Star%20-%2006%20-%20Preview%2002.jpg

Believe me, you don't have to remind anyone about that; is basically the sole reason why we can't wait for this episode to air :p .

:joke:

WanderingKnight

2007-05-20, 02:51

That 1-voting guy is probably a bored user that doesn't post, lurks around reading the threads and out of boredom he goes and votes for 1... He has a post here already, so that makes me think it's not a bot... perhaps.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-20, 02:59

Believe me, you don't have to remind anyone about that; is basically the sole reason why we can't wait for this episode to air :p .

:joke:

Sometimes.....when I see that picture....I like to imagine myself in Kagami's place. :naughty: Yep....

Also Konata looks like a chimp in that picture. The gangly limbs, smushed face, S*** Eating Grin.... :thinker:

Wait a second....I knew it, the opening made it likely with the chattering voices that my friend says sounds like monkeys, but this tears it, Konata is in fact a chimpanzee in a girl costume and that's why she's so tiny and never grows. :p

Hyouzan

2007-05-20, 05:25

Sometimes.....when I see that picture....I like to imagine myself in Kagami's place. :naughty: Yep....

now that's strange...i was just thinking....the exact opposite :heh:

i have no idea what to expect from this episode other than kagami x konata moments :p and i can't seem to think any amusing/interesting things about conversations on scars and scabs...but surely konata otaku'ish insights will help to that :rolleyes: (or kagami's tsundere-ness, or tsukasa's cuteness, or miyuki's lectures...bah everything goes here XD ! )

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2007-05-20, 10:34

Sheba

2007-05-20, 10:38

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So they are poking fun at the real Shiraishi when he dressed up as woman?

krln99

2007-05-20, 10:59

ED song this time is 地上の星.

I have no idea what it is, but this might be the original song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b28PHX0Bb_c

Don't shoot me if that happened to just be a song with the same name.:heh: It sounded nice though... Now we just need the raw of the ED to confirm.

I guess Miyuki sings it? Funny, considering the artist is Nakashima Miyuki. I guess Miyuki is right about her not knowing any new songs. This sounds like something her mother would listen to. :heh:

dahl_moon

2007-05-20, 11:04

ED song this time is 地上の星.

I have no idea what it is, but this might be the original song...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b28PHX0Bb_c

Don't shoot me if that happened to just be a song with the same name.:heh: It sounded nice though... Now we just need the raw of the ED to confirm.
Haven't seen the RAW yet, but there is only THE 地上の星. An awesome song; I won't attempt a translation of the lyrics, though. I'm wondering who'll sing it though. Konata seems most likely to be able to follow Nakajima Miyuki's style, but Miyuki has the same name:heh:, and it is her turn.

JEEB

2007-05-20, 11:09

I hate the fact that I can't log on to ニコニコ動画 right now... (I'm a too new member around there, access only from 0200 to 1900 - I understood the power of it a bit too late). I'll propably wait for the RAW to be on the usual places...

Vallen Chaos Valiant, if this is the ending, it's quite... epic. That's the OP for Project X on NHK... (if I remember correctly), one of the songs I heard a lot. I wonder how it was performed \(>.<)/, and krln99, since this is an OP for a documentary series, I feel some connection to Miyuki... And I must guess what they watch on the TV in the Takara household...

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So they are poking fun at the real Shiraishi when he dressed up as woman?With a piece of WTF I laughed... I'll have to dig on that, if it is a real-life reference...

Mr JeburtO

2007-05-20, 11:18

oops voted by accident =[

well im sure its genna be good anyway, now we just wait for a.f.k =3

Sheba

2007-05-20, 11:35

Vallen Chaos Valiant, if this is the ending, it's quite... epic. That's the OP for Project X on NHK... (if I remember correctly), one of the songs I heard a lot. I wonder how it was performed \(>.<)/, and krln99, since this is an OP for a documentary series, I feel some connection to Miyuki... And I must guess what they watch on the TV in the Takara household...

I somewhat managed to decypher the katakana for Project X in that thread at 2chan, so it is not unlikely it is that one. But as stated earlier, we'll have to wait for the raw to confirm it.

Konata-chan

2007-05-20, 12:02

I hate the fact that I can't log on to ニコニコ動画 right now... (I'm a too new member around there, access only from 0200 to 1900 - I understood the power of it a bit too late). I'll propably wait for the RAW to be on the usual places...

Yeah, that sucks too. No wonder I've been having log-in problems for like the first few hours, and by the time I have access, raws can be seen in the usual places. Right away, there are at least 3 groups providing the raws for the latest episode.

For a minute there, I thought that Nakajima-san sung enka. I wonder if an enka performance would slip in sometime during its run...

JEEB

2007-05-20, 12:16

Got there... and LOL'ed at the beginning...
Konata saying "Good morning" real ojou-sama- style!wwwww

EDIT: And Miyuki being able to continue the same style, like "at the girls' school which my friend attend" www, and Kagami... she's so cute www

This is a good start!

Konata-chan, Yeah. But I can understand that when people watch video, they use bandwidth. Which costs money. And when more than a million users do it at one time... you can multiply it. But it still sucks -.- Oh well, no more whining from me, we'll just have to wait until the next unlock time.

Enka - I bet there'll be enka in this series at some time. There's enough jokes to be made about it, ネ?

GHDpro

2007-05-20, 12:40

Ah man, there were some good laughs in this one.
- Konata seems to have watched to much Mari-mite during the summer holiday, as that's why she is acting like Sachiko-sama a bit, uses the typical "Goukigenyou" and fixes Tsukasa's scarf. Konata even mentions Mari-mite by name btw.

- Tsukasa gets a cellphone. The situations around this are quite funny, especially her expressions when she tries to find her own number in her cellphone.

- Miyuki breaks her glasses and has to go without for a day.

- The Lucky Channel segment was very short this time, but very good. The screenshots are already floating around in this thread, but the sight of Minoru with twintails & Akira in a bad mood alone cracked me up; before they had even said anything.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-20, 12:49

Shiroth

2007-05-20, 12:58

Ah man, there were some good laughs in this one.
- Tsukasa gets a cellphone. The situations around this are quite funny, especially her expressions when she tries to find her own number in her cellphone.
Is it just me, or does that sound like it could be the cutest scene out of the whole series?

Can't wait to see it.

pomps

2007-05-20, 13:27

Miyuki - Chijo no Hoshi, can't imagine Miyuki singing with that voice, it's quite funny :D, and like Kagami said: "SHIBUI!!"

Konata-chan

2007-05-20, 13:28

Konata-chan, Yeah. But I can understand that when people watch video, they use bandwidth. Which costs money. And when more than a million users do it at one time... you can multiply it. But it still sucks -.- Oh well, no more whining from me, we'll just have to wait until the next unlock time.

Enka - I bet there'll be enka in this series at some time. There's enough jokes to be made about it, ネ?

And a good thing about the raws too is that you don't have to see cluttering Japanese text scrolling about. Raws came by so fast and download so fast that I was able to transition to the actual raw instead of watching it on nicovideo several minutes to the end. And as for enka, it is a distinct music class on its own, as explained by the instructor who's teaching a class about the types of music in Japan. It's a really fun class.

Miyuki had to see the dentist, turns out she had cavities
Konata catching up on summer homework and asking Yui for help
Miyuki breaking her glasses and having to rely on Tsukasa and Konata's notes... :heh:
Everyone comparing other people's bento
Tsukasa getting a cellphone, and its consequences, aka her cellphone going off during class (Canon in D was apparently her ringtone)
Konata's ringtone is Hare Hare Yukai... www
Konata's drawing of what she thinks of the three... Kagami's is right on, even her reaction was drawn like her drawing.
Tsukasa and Konata's favorite manga is Keroro gunso?
ETA: The insert song playing when Konata was watching TV is the 2nd OP to Strawberry Panic, Kuchibiru Daydream

The only bad thing so far is that Konata's dad finally appeared and yet didn't say anything. ;_;

Once again, my Japanese only caught bits and pieces. Patiently waiting for the sub.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-20, 13:35

And a good thing about the raws too is that you don't have to see cluttering Japanese text scrolling about. Raws came by so fast and download so fast that I was able to transition to the actual raw instead of watching it on nicovideo several minutes to the end. And as for enka, it is a distinct music class on its own, as explained by the instructor who's teaching a class about the types of music in Japan. It's a really fun class.

Miyuki had to see the dentist, turns out she had cavities
Konata catching up on summer homework and asking Yui for help
Miyuki breaking her glasses and having to rely on Tsukasa and Konata's notes... :heh:
Everyone comparing other people's bento
Tsukasa getting a cellphone, and its consequences, aka her cellphone going off during class (Canon in D was apparently her ringtone)
Konata's ringtone is Hare Hare Yukai... www
Konata's drawing of what she thinks of the three... Kagami's is right on, even her reaction was drawn like her drawing.
Tsukasa and Konata's favorite manga is Keroro gunso?

The only bad thing so far is that Konata's dad finally appeared and yet didn't say anything. ;_;

Once again, my Japanese only caught bits and pieces. Patiently waiting for the sub.

All of these references are from Kadokawa Shoten media or Public Domain, which leads me to believe that they are trying to minimize expenses on copyright royalties. As a result however the pool of actual straight up references is quite limited as I don't think things extend to shows that were adapted to manga (Eureka Seven, Code Geass, Brain Powered etc). They might be able to do a Crossbone Gundam reference though without having to censor, but I don't know.

Also Konata's dad didn't say anything because men aren't allowed to talk anymore in these kinds of shows (Why do you think Akira gets annoyed everytime what's his face says something). He should be grateful that he was allowed to even appear in the episode and should remember his place. :frustrated:

lyric

2007-05-20, 14:45

I was shocked by Konata at the very beginning of this episode and Kagami at the preview of next episode...
The interaction between Konata and Kagami comes back [girls love!?]
but indeed, there are still so much close-up of Tsutasa in this episode...Tsukasa is so cute even she is just eating a burg >_<

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Sheba

2007-05-20, 14:57

I love how the yuri groove started by Konata with her Marimite impression get emphasized by her watching Strawberry Panic (this series being my guilty pleasure of 2006, you can guess how happy I was).
Poor Tsukasa, she is as bad with mobile phones as me, while Konata who forgot hers at home reminded me of my brother.
I'll wait until the subs to fully judge this episode. But, so far, this episode's Lucky Channel is my favorite.

Did I mention how much I love Hirano's "Oujosama" mode?

Also Konata's dad didn't say anything because men aren't allowed to talk anymore in these kinds of shows (Why do you think Akira gets annoyed everytime what's his face says something). He should be grateful that he was allowed to even appear in the episode and should remember his place.

moar conspiracy theories plz?

Konata-chan

2007-05-20, 15:00

All of these references are from Kadokawa Shoten media or Public Domain, which leads me to believe that they are trying to minimize expenses on copyright royalties. As a result however the pool of actual straight up references is quite limited as I don't think things extend to shows that were adapted to manga (Eureka Seven, Code Geass, Brain Powered etc). They might be able to do a Crossbone Gundam reference though without having to censor, but I don't know.

Also Konata's dad didn't say anything because men aren't allowed to talk anymore in these kinds of shows (Why do you think Akira gets annoyed everytime what's his face says something). He should be grateful that he was allowed to even appear in the episode and should remember his place. :frustrated:

Aside from Keroro Gunso, all other Kyoani works and Initial D, I wonder if all the anime/manga/light novel "references" presented in Lucky Star through the anime, manga or CM's are popular enough with the anime group. For some of these anime I didn't get these references until I actually looked them up (eg. Strawberry Panic's "Kuchibiru Daydream")

pomps

2007-05-20, 15:06

When Miyuki was choosing her song, Konata said she wanted Miyuki to sing "Omoide ga Ippai", the ED song of the anime "Miyuki", aired from 1983-1984, the anime is from the manga by Adachi Mitsuru - my favourite mangaka, . But then Miyuki chose Chijo no Hoshi, by another Miyuki - Nakajima Miyuki :D

Risaa

2007-05-20, 15:12

Ah, laughing too hard right now. This thread is making me want to drop everything and see the raw ASAP (still waiting for it to download...). It's a shame I sleep in late on the weekend, right when the raws first come out. Based on what's been said so far, it looks like this episode is going to be really great. XD

JEEB

2007-05-20, 15:34

For those who really want to know it:
Look at this (http://www.lucky-ch.com/weekly/070511_sp.html) article, on the right side... Himawari & twintails it is... and he didn't do the ribbons. As Akira-sama mentions

Somehow I really liked this episode after I watched it in RAW...

Konata-chan, you did know that there's a button in order to take out the comments... right? But let's not bring too much off-topic talk in here.

In any other part...
Miyuki was really cute with sitting on her glasses and quite extraordinarily good at doing something, or failing cutely... unagi in a sweet tamago-roll... I'm as surprised as anyone else.

Tsukasa trying to use her phone and ending up 'losing' it in the washing machine, cute... very cute. Tsukasa's phone is a NTT DoCoMo's FOMA lineup's middle-range phone P702i & Kagami's got a high-grade P902iS (I kind of spotted the classic Panasonic design, but I had to check Tsukasa's model).

And as for Konata's mail address... "violent/excited love between meganekkos" Ooh, I really laughed when she said it out loud... I mean LOUD. In a bus. And one more pointing towards Konata's a bit yuri-like/ gyaruge- fan- typish head.

Princess_of_Hell

2007-05-20, 15:42

Princess_of_Hell

2007-05-20, 15:51

All of these references are from Kadokawa Shoten media or Public Domain, which leads me to believe that they are trying to minimize expenses on copyright royalties. As a result however the pool of actual straight up references is quite limited as I don't think things extend to shows that were adapted to manga (Eureka Seven, Code Geass, Brain Powered etc). They might be able to do a Crossbone Gundam reference though without having to censor, but I don't know.

Also Konata's dad didn't say anything because men aren't allowed to talk anymore in these kinds of shows (Why do you think Akira gets annoyed everytime what's his face says something). He should be grateful that he was allowed to even appear in the episode and should remember his place. :frustrated:

It's because we women have the power to get mad when "those" men try and interrupt us. Lucky Channel is Akira's show and she should get all the airtime for that portion. I'm glad she gets mad at him because he doesn't seem to know his place. Without us women, there wouldn't be any people. Men can talk in animes like Naruto but Lucky Star, they should know their place and let the women speak.

Vexx

2007-05-20, 16:11

All I ask is that they follow the source material. Kona's dad and Kona's family situation is represented by some pretty funny strips in the manga -- it would be a shame if they neglected all that.

The Lucky*Channel joke was very funny for 4 episodes.... but the joke is being shredded at this point. Frankly, I'd rather see more Lucky*Star content instead but that doesn't seem to be part of the plan. (disappointment)

Shiroth

2007-05-20, 16:13

The Lucky*Channel joke was very funny for 4 episodes.... but the joke is being shredded at this point. Frankly, I'd rather see more Lucky*Star content instead but that doesn't seem to be part of the plan. (disappointment)
I'm the same --- i'm not all that happy when Lucky Star ends, and we're given around 5 minutes or so of Lucky Channel. At least this week it only lasted around 2 minutes.

Noppapana

2007-05-20, 16:57

LOL at konata ringtone while i got Bouken Desho desho ringtone :D

Risaa

2007-05-20, 16:58

GAH!! I finally found it! I absolutely can't believe it took me this long to figure out the name of Tsukasa's ringtone - I studied classical music for about fiveish years or so, and this easy-peasy (not to mention popular) piece totally escaped me. I guess this is what happens when you drop something and don't fresh up on it for the next five years... Anyways, it's Canon in D by Johann Pachelbel.

I think her ringtone suited her very well... and the phone itself was a light pink. (Notice the past-tense... the phone was too good to last.) Perfect for innocent Tsukasa. I can't use camera phones with the camera at the same placement as Tsukasa's phone though... everytime I go to take a picture, my fingers are covering it up... so I always have to look for a phone with a camera at the end when it's flipped out. :heh:

I love that the twins' dad called both of them... and of course, everytime Kona-chichi calls, her phone is in her room. He tries to care. :)

All the characters really shined in this episode, especially Tsukasa. She had the most good moments, I think.. and she was really adorable when she couldn't find her own phone number (actually, I went through the same process when I got my own phone... except instead of being in front of my friends, I was at the housing office and the woman was getting impatient with me XD ).

Edit: Forgot to mention, Kona's drawings were funny, but I thought it was weird what Kagami did afterwards... I get the joke - Kona drew Kagami and Kagami didn't like it, but ended up making the same facial expression. The joke itself is funny, but the visual just didn't seem to fit with the way the rest of the comedic moments have been for L*S.

Edit again: I love this:

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Haven't we all done the same thing? I could always tell what days I dozed off in class because of the extra line trailing away from the writing. Kona even goes as far as writing on the desk.

As for Lucky Channel, I agree it's getting old... but this episode's was the first one in a while that I liked... at least for a few seconds. *swt!* Minoru's getting the hang of it. :p I guess Akira-sama's figured out that the focus is shifting to him. Poor guy. Love his twin ponytails. :)

(It was nice that it was so short this time, too.)

Sheba

2007-05-20, 17:03

I think the new director likes Tsukasa. Like A LOT.

WanderingKnight

2007-05-20, 17:04

OMG, this episode made a spot on yet another similarity between Kona-chan and me: When I really need it, I always forget my cellphone by my PC, and when I get back home, I find lots of missed calls in the log.

The Kona-ojousama showed us again the amazing talent of Hirano Aya, this time, by putting her Kona voice and her 'other', more known, voice together in a short segment. And I still can't find Aya's voice whenever Kona-chan speaks.

Haha, Lucky Channel seems to be grabbing more and more detractors. No worries, more fun for those of us who love it. And this week's episode is brilliant.

dahl_moon

2007-05-20, 19:10

Really amazing how Lucky*Star continues to hold its pace; each and every episode has at least one really funny moment. Even Lucky*Channel was funny today!
As an avid Marimite fan, I was overjoyed to hear Konata imitate Marimite. The tie-correcting scene just grabbed me, right from the start.
Extra props to Kagami for mentioning drill in front of Konata, Tsukasa and Miyuki.
Also, as of this episode, I've decided I'll join the Tsukasa is moe-overdose camp. She is just.... she's the first ditzy character that's interesting:love:
Edit: Thought I should mention this. Kagamin is now literally the butt of lucky*star jokes.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1694/11796737683042baevj4.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11796737683042baevj4.jpg)How dare you do this to my Kagamin! Not to mention she's been rather weak lately. *snif*
However, Miyuki's 地上の星 wasn't too impressive, IMO. Since Miyuki repeatedly expressed her incompetence, I was looking forward to a riot if she is to sing 地上の星, in which a husky voice is a must. I was NOT expecting Miyuki to have a tone low enough to sing that song well :frustrated:. It seems so OOC.

Meophist

2007-05-20, 20:12

Wonder if the ringtone was a reference to Kanon…

Shiroth

2007-05-20, 20:49

Wonder if the ringtone was a reference to Kanon…
It probably is, 'cause i don't see any other reason as to why they'd have Canon in D as Tsukasa ringtone.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-20, 22:00

Wonder if the ringtone was a reference to Kanon…

Dude, everythings a reference to Kanon and Haruhi. I'm actually not sure if I'm joking anymore as that seem's to be the vast majority of references. We had Getter Robo in episode 2 and then Initial D and that was it for the outside references not including Kadokawa stuff. Like I said I think they are being really really tight on the copyrighted material budget and going with the stuff they have easy access too. I'm worried it will grow as tired as Lucky Channel though seeing the same few series referenced over and over again, like only Kyoto Animation and Kadokawa media fully exist in the Lucky Star world.

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Is this Moe? :confused:

Oh and about the new directors apparent love for Tsukasa, maybe that explains the 30 second shot of her posterior in episode 6 (Still comes in second to Shuffle! for my Most Comedically Awkard Fanservice Moment In Anime Award).

Claies

2007-05-20, 22:05

D
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Is this Moe? :confused:

No. In fact, I'm quite horrified.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-20, 22:11

However, Miyuki's 地上の星 wasn't too impressive, IMO. Since Miyuki repeatedly expressed her incompetence, I was looking forward to a riot if she is to sing 地上の星, in which a husky voice is a must. I was NOT expecting Miyuki to have a tone low enough to sing that song well :frustrated:. It seems so OOC.

Wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened with that (See episode 3). I would have to see it to form an opinion as to whether and/or why that is the case though.

aorta

2007-05-20, 22:16

Dude, everythings a reference to Kanon and Haruhi. I'm actually not sure if I'm joking anymore as that seem's to be the vast majority of references. We had Getter Robo in episode 2 and then Initial D and that was it for the outside references not including Kadokawa stuff. Like I said I think they are being really really tight on the copyrighted material budget and going with the stuff they have easy access too. I'm worried it will grow as tired as Lucky Channel though seeing the same few series referenced over and over again, like only Kyoto Animation and Kadokawa media fully exist in the Lucky Star world.

Blade of the Immortal? Marimite?

Also Kaibutsu-kun 2

Konata-chan

2007-05-20, 22:19

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1694/11796737683042baevj4.th.jpg

I really hope not. My ex-boyfriend likes these kinds of fetishes (plump people and lolicon). I like my women with at least somewhat normal body proportions (I'm not necessarily slender either...) and moe > lolicon.

Episode 7's addition of "Kuchibiru Daydream" made me decide that I have to check out Strawberry Panic. It seems like an interesting plot, and I certainly don't mind lesbianism at all.

Skane

2007-05-20, 23:01

They referenced Strawberry Panic? That's a win in my books. :D It was one of the few series where I wrote extensively and speculated for each episode (heck, Tamao is even in my signature).

Cheers.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-20, 23:41

Meophist

2007-05-21, 00:14

Dude, everythings a reference to Kanon and Haruhi. I'm actually not sure if I'm joking anymore as that seem's to be the vast majority of references.It was a joke, though I kinda expected you to post this…

Sheba

2007-05-21, 03:31

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/05/20/lucky-star-07/

Is it just me or does Jaalin's Thoughts post perfectly summarize what I've been trying to describe all along, but in my case came across as senseless bashing.

That's because the way you word your point and shove it down everyone's throat makes it sound like KyoAni is the evil, heartless, and calculating mastermind of an evil take-over-the-world-with-moé conspiracy triggered by the Jews Templars Freemasons while we, those who appreciate KyoAni's works for what they are (entertainment), are just blind, mindless and brainless zombies who have to be enlightened. See what I am trying to mean? See why it irritate a part of the board population so much and make them feel insulted?

Yes, I LOVE fanservice, I LOVE references (even tho I hate gratuitous religious references), I admit to nearly come when I tried to check the musical references in Bastard! manga and Guilty Gear games, and I admit to have StoPani fanboy fits when I heard its second OP in this Lucky Star episode 7; and I too have my own bias regarding how things I enjoy (war drama, survival, dystopic sci-fi) must be done.
Do it make me a mindless KyoAni zombie? Hell no, I can move on and go to watch the old 1980s Hitcher or Das Boot right after an anime session.

Dop

2007-05-21, 10:30

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Is that another MariMite reference? Shiraishi as Yumi and (with drills) as Touko?

Sheba

2007-05-21, 10:47

Is that another MariMite reference? Shiraishi as Yumi and (with drills) as Touko?

You know, I did not think about it. I was more thinking about his suggestion in a previous lucky channel or the fact that his voice actor did have pigtails and was pictured as twirling them in one photo.
But yeah, it could be a bit of all of that (marimite (running gag?), previous lucky channel and rl stuff about Shiraishi).

Kaoru Chujo

2007-05-21, 12:07

I've liked Hirano Aya's work, but I never knew she was this good at comedy. Her Marimite stuff and evil ojou-sama laugh were pure gold. So were her breathing, eating, and drool-sucking sounds.

The early visual cut from imaginary flower-bedecked ojou-sama Konata to the real slouching otaku Konata was brilliant, especially with Aya's grunt.

Tsukasa's expressions during her fight to figure out how to work her phone were funny, but maybe a little broader and more ordinary than this show's normal style of humor. Her crying the next day was beautifully done.

And I'll add Strawberry Panic to the list of shows referenced that were not Kadokawa titles.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-21, 12:13

Her Marimite stuff and evil ojou-sama laugh were pure gold. So were her breathing, eating, and drool-sucking sounds.

Why does that just sound dirty to me for some reason. :heh:

Nemo_N

2007-05-21, 12:44

Now I remember where I have heard Aya's ojou-sama voice: as Kahlua Marjoram in GA II.

Loved how they even changed the eye design for her ojou-sama mode and how Miyuki was able to talk to Konata so effortlessly. :D

Level E

2007-05-21, 15:56

Is that another MariMite reference? Shiraishi as Yumi and (with drills) as Touko?

Not so much a Maria reference.

It was one of the several general references (タテロール (http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E7%B8%A6%E3%83%AD%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB)) which looks like a twin set of drills. Sebastian the bulter is another general reference although it stems from Heidi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi%2C_Girl_of_the_Alps).

As for the Strawberry Panic! OP (くちびる白昼夢), Hata Aki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aki_Hata) wrote the lyrics for that and もってけ！セーラーふく

pomps

2007-05-21, 15:57

Because she's the real ojousan that happened to go to the same school with the other three :D.

Telliamed

2007-05-21, 21:40

As for the Strawberry Panic! OP (くちびる白昼夢), Hata Aki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aki_Hata) wrote the lyrics for that and もってけ！セーラーふく

I didn't even realise the lyrics for Motteke!SeraFuku were written. I imagined something involving a dart board or the ladder game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amidakuji).

Vexx

2007-05-21, 21:51

Either its finals :) ... or the work of subbing these episodes must be getting alligator-infested swamp deep. Everyone's falling off their initial pace a bit.
gambatte yo...

Ascaloth

2007-05-21, 22:50

Either its finals :) ... or the work of subbing these episodes must be getting alligator-infested swamp deep. Everyone's falling off their initial pace a bit.
gambatte yo...

"A bit"? Gawd, [a.f.k.]'s the fastest group to come out with Rakisuta subs these days, and when that happens, you know you've got a monkey on your hands. :heh:

Skane

2007-05-21, 23:26

~
Loved how they even changed the eye design for her ojou-sama mode and how Miyuki was able to talk to Konata so effortlessly. :D
They were basically mimicking MariMite's artstyle (which makes it all the more hilarious), just like how they totally altered their artstyle to mimic Initial D in the previous episode.

Just goes to show how skilful the animators are in adopting different artstyles on the fly (since each studio generally has a "signature style").

Cheers.

Manatsu

2007-05-22, 14:19

Is anyone disappointed that there wasn't a Sei x Yumi parody?

I came into this thread yesterday and found out that they have made references to Marimite in this episode. I suddenly recall the preview showing Konata groping Kagami from behind and my heart skipped a bit to contemplate a possibility of a Sei x Yumi parody with Kagami as Yumi of course! Found out after watching that it wasn't...

Yeah too bad about that, the episode is still very good. Tsukasa vs the cellphone is really cute, one of my favourite gags in the manga. And is that more of her ab-libbing when she says gomen backwards? :heh:

DJ_RockmanX

2007-05-22, 15:08

07 is out by a.f.k. Pretty good time once again, though not quite as good as last week.

Risaa

2007-05-22, 15:09

07 is out by a.f.k. Pretty good time once again, though not quite as good as last week.

Beat me by one minute. :p

But yeah... it's nice having some good subs coming out sooner than they used to be. I get impatient for conversation on the episodes. :p

jaziek

2007-05-22, 16:27

Beat me by one minute. :p

But yeah... it's nice having some good subs coming out sooner than they used to be. I get impatient for conversation on the episodes. :p

dammit its so annoying knowing its out and yet being unable to watch it..

guess i have to wait for the stream since i cant torrent.

Shiosai

2007-05-22, 16:41

Hmm, somehow this show is actually getting better to me; I'm not sure if the new director has anything to do with it or not.

Shiraishi's scene was great. I love how that seiyu's been typecast in Kyoani's productions. Konata doing the Marimate impersonation was hysterical. Poor Kagami breathing fire... So many good things this ep!

Risaa

2007-05-22, 16:54

I'm definitely feeling that way too... each episode has been better than the last. Though Lucky Channel is the only thing I feel that has stayed at a stand-still (the jokes haven't gotten worse.. it's just that they use the same joke over and over), Minoru has been getting better and better for me. This episode was great for him in particular.

I hope they'll be able to keep up the improvements with each episode.. I'm slightly paranoid that they'll reach a point in which they come to a stand-still, but eh, we'll find out ne.

aorta

2007-05-22, 17:17

I find that if I go back and watch episode one it is better because I know the characters more.

Claies

2007-05-22, 17:19

Small thing that popped into my head: Has anyone noticed that ever since the new director came to production, besides Tsukasa getting more coverage, that Kagami started referring to Konata as "Konata-san"? She never included that honorific in episodes 1-4.

I have to wonder whether that's the director not favoring Konata x Kagami or simply his attempt to make Kagami's formal personality stand out more.

JEEB

2007-05-22, 17:21

Shiosai, Risaa, you can count me in that bag, too (it could be because we know the characters better now, though...). Although I did like the first episodes, too, the later ones just seemed to put off the air there was in between the earlier and the next level of greatness every time another episode aired... OK, now that was over-expressed, but you get my point, right?

And I just translated the "The cornet figure of a tan-belly... When you put it on the side it becomes a figure that's lying down... When it's lying down it's even better... A cornet figure..." @ 8:36-8:40...

Somehow it just seemed funny to me if thought about in many ways... :heh: Maybe I'm just too tired right now... LOL

Anh_Minh

2007-05-22, 17:23

Hm... Konata's marimite was too snobbish for me.

Also, I have two questions:
- is her father a hobo?
- what does she cosplay as at work?

Sheba

2007-05-22, 17:24

The humor is still the same, on one hand relying on pop culture/geekdom references, on the other hand taking its roots in these little incidents in real life that everyone have experienced one day. The change of director mostly gave it a smoother flow.
That's how I see the thing since the fifth episode.

I have said what I have thought of the Konata's Marimite imitation or the StoPani bit.
But I like how most of the conversations revolved around this "image" topic, like how Miyuki is expected to have a popularity boost w/o her glasses but doesn't (being in the harsh reality of LSverse), or the Kagamin's tsundere groove.
I felt for Tsukasa, mobile phones being like my sworn enemies, but I felt more bad for Shirashi.

I rated the episode a 8.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-22, 17:33

Deathkillz

2007-05-22, 17:35

kona's Marimite personality...boy that was funny XD and for miyuki to be talking to her on the same level without even trying...is there anything left to fear? :eyebrow:

i really liked how tsukasa showed her moe side throughout this ep...especially when she cried reading the manga and over the loss of her phone: >__< face is sooo cute :3

and LC...was just weird as usual..."ohiyo lucky!" *really squeaky voice*

~ okey i dont seem to recognise the end song this time...someone plz enlighten me? :)

edit: thx...lol miyuki has a really good singing voice XD

JEEB

2007-05-22, 17:44

Deathkillz, it's a famous OP of the NHK's documentary series Project X - "Chijyou no hoshi". Linked @ the first page and sung by Nakajima Miyuki (Miyuki X Miyuki;))

...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b28PHX0Bb_c...

Risaa

2007-05-22, 17:58

It's been a bumpy ride in my case:

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o_o! Woow, you even made a chart. You're too good at this. (I wish I could be as systematic about these sorts of things..)

I was thinking about what you said on episode five when I said that each episode has been better than the last... sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was speaking for everyone.

Anime Online

2007-05-22, 19:44

This week, as most of you are aware, we have Miyuki singing the ED!

The part where Miyuki apologised before she started her song captures the feel of someone who is new to karaoke well. I still find myself saying "I'm still trying to learn this song" or "Um, let's give this a try" before the song starts at the karaoke.

Other than that, some of the parts that are noteworthy this episode are:
- Kona-chan doing the oujosama "O~hohoho"

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- Lucky Star gang trying to do the more mature stare (and it not working out for poor Kagami)
- Kona-chan being late because she thought she had time and started playing. So true, Kona-chan, that happens so often for me!
- As mentioned by others, Tsukasa trying to find her cell phone number. I know what you are going through, Tsukasa! I'll just call my friend and say "My number is in the caller-ID" during the first few days of having a cell phone

Hyouzan

2007-05-22, 20:13

you know...those dreamy eyes creeps me out :heh:
i hate it when girls put on that look :p

we MUST have an episode showing konata "working" at her part time job :D

LC......ahh well at least it's shorter now :heh:

btw...did anyone catch why kagami's mad at tsukasa ^^; ?
it sounds like she's feeling lonely or something..."what" exactly is that something that leads to the molestation :D ?

Baka-yuki

2007-05-22, 20:23

Ths has to be my favorite episoide so far. The Kona-chan x Kagami parts were great, especially the "pat" on head moment. Tsukasa as she tried to find her phone number, i feel your pain Tsukasa...i still dont know mine. I thought Tsukasa showed her moe side here as well, so kawaii at parts.
Is it just me or was Konata watching the second series, and recording, of Strawberry Panic!? Cant wait to see the episoid she imitates them:heh:

we MUST have an episode showing konata "working" at her part time job ditto, i wanna see too

CrowKenobi

2007-05-22, 20:44

we MUST have an episode showing konata "working" at her part time job :DI third that! :D

Is it just me or was Konata watching the second series, and recording, of Strawberry Panic!? Cant wait to see the episoid she imitates them:heh:I'm wondering, as we get into the fall season in the show, when the Kanon references will start showing up... and Kagami's reaction to them. :heh:

:cool:

DragoonKain3

2007-05-22, 21:10

Lol, at least now I'm glad I actually stuck through MariMite (which is saying a lot from a person who can't stand shoujo-ai and shounen-ai). Getting those references before even reading what they are actually saying was golden.

(On a side note, judging by eps 4, I thought Kona wasn't into Yuri. Well at least Kagami is still on the light side 'I'm gonna hurl' XD)

Kagami leaving her phone is funny as well. Not the act of leaving it, but the actual reason why she leaves it. At first its amusing, but the second time Kona-Dad calls, it really hits home considering all the build up to it.

But best humor, Lucky Channel by far. Shiraishi's impersonation of Akira was just hi-freaking-larious! XD

Overall, better than last episode, but eps 5 is still the best eps for me so far.

And Tsukasa acts like a child a lot of the time. I think that point was driven hard this eps. >_>

Japanese culture question: Why can't Konata get cable tv? House too old (aka no existing wiring) or something?

shinku no kage

2007-05-22, 21:19

Nice, very nice.

The ep started off nicely with Konata's MariMite approach.

Tsukasa seems to be really gaining focus through ep6 and this one. I just loved her story with her cell phone...Keroro Gunsou~...strap!! LOL. Heh, I thought that he'd survive but guess not huh? Atleast they like the manga. (^O^) As do I!!

Ah, no...I must remain a loyal Kagami fan!! >.<

Miyuki-san seems to be gaining more attention too. ^^ Her lunch looks so...gorgeous for being leftovers...

...and more of Konata's otakuness is revealed. Her "Hare Hare Yukai" ring tone and her mail address. Hehehe

....(O.O) OMG!! Konata's dad made an appearence!!!

*goes onto Lucky Channel*

...(._.) Just die Shiraishi...

Satsuya

2007-05-22, 21:21

whitepearl

2007-05-22, 21:23

I literally lol'd during the MariMite references

Seiryuu

2007-05-22, 21:39

Wow. Haven't watched all of this yet but had to say this. It was bad enough when they were speculating which end of a chocolate cornet was the head. They just had to be blunt about it. "The fat end looks like the butt..." now I can never again watch that part of ep1 except on an empty stomach. Not to mention I don't think I'll ever eat a chocolate cornet, no matter what.:sigh:

Kyuusai

2007-05-22, 21:51

With both this episode and the last, I want so badly to comment on things like the individual jokes, or the progression of the timing and style of direction, but the words don't come.

I have noticed, though, that I focus less on the jokes because the overall atmosphere and ride in between jokes has become so enjoyable that I almost don't care, and when the jokes do hit, they have me doubled over. The show is utterly adorable. I get cavities just from watching.

My episode notes:
- I just can't determine if Konata is a creepy, disgusting otaku girl or a tremendously adorable otaku girl. She plays both sides so well I can't tell which she's supposed to be.
- I just can't imagine Miyuki singing that song. I already heard the ED to this episode, of course, but it just isn't processing. I can't even remember how it sounded. My brain has totally rejected it. It just doesn't mesh with the way Miyuki is performed. (The choice of song is very Miyuki, though. Although that personality trait in itself doesn't mesh with the moe image she's supposed to project.)
- Lucky Channel needs a change, BUT! Today's bit was gold. Not because of Shiraishi in ponytails (which was momentarily hilarious), but because this time we were thrown a curveball and it really worked for me, although I think it should have been shorter.

Baka-yuki

2007-05-22, 21:54

...and more of Konata's otakuness is revealed. Her "Hare Hare Yukai" ring tone and her mail address. Hehehe

....(O.O) OMG!! Konata's dad made an appearence!!!

I do the same thing with email, but does anyone know hoe to get Hare Hare Yukai as a ringtone? That would be awsome/hilarius beyond words

Ascaloth

2007-05-22, 22:21

It's been a bumpy ride in my case:

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Reminds me of the bad old days when everyone was tracking DanielSong39's gutter votes on a chart during Kanon 2K6's run.

As Jason Miao would say, "Bad times. Bad times."

I do the same thing with email, but does anyone know hoe to get Hare Hare Yukai as a ringtone? That would be awsome/hilarius beyond words

DJ Bouche has one for Ericsson phones, I think. Still waiting for him to come out with the Nokia version... :frustrated:

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-22, 23:08

Code001

2007-05-22, 23:42

My episode notes:
- I just can't determine if Konata is a creepy, disgusting otaku girl or a tremendously adorable otaku girl. She plays both sides so well I can't tell which she's supposed to be.
- I just can't imagine Miyuki singing that song. I already heard the ED to this episode, of course, but it just isn't processing. I can't even remember how it sounded. My brain has totally rejected it. It just doesn't mesh with the way Miyuki is performed. (The choice of song is very Miyuki, though. Although that personality trait in itself doesn't mesh with the moe image she's supposed to project.)
- Lucky Channel needs a change, BUT! Today's bit was gold. Not because of Shiraishi in ponytails (which was momentarily hilarious), but because this time we were thrown a curveball and it really worked for me, although I think it should have been shorter.

Wow! That's basically the exact same thing I was thinking. I also enjoy how Tsukasa and Miyuki are getting more attention, even though I'm a total Konata fan (as everyone else has mentioned, the cellphone moment was golen!) As far as Lucky Channel, I'm glad they changed it up a bit, but I agree...if they don't do something drastic, it's going to bring the series down, IMO. That ending song really freaked me out too....

Vexx

2007-05-23, 01:34

- I just can't determine if Konata is a creepy, disgusting otaku girl or a tremendously adorable otaku girl. She plays both sides so well I can't tell which she's supposed to be.

<snork!> <dies laughing> I guess Kona is a zen kona ... ... ...

jaziek

2007-05-23, 01:50

XD lucky channel was actually good this time! that was a pleasant suprise.
and also :heh::heh: @ kona's ringtone.

Sorrow-K

2007-05-23, 05:54

Serious lols at the Marimite references and I thought the mobile phone stuff was a clever and humourous commentary on Tsukasa's character. Enjoyed the Strawberry Panic reference, even if it wasn't anything more than "zomg I recognize this song" and chuckled at a few other things. One of the funnier eps of the show. Still not prepared to say this is anything better than "above average" at this stage.

Lol, at least now I'm glad I actually stuck through MariMite (which is saying a lot from a person who can't stand shoujo-ai and shounen-ai). Getting those references before even reading what they are actually saying was golden.*face-hand* Yeah, because brilliant characters and amazing story just don't redeem a show and make watching it worthwhile in the same way as a couple of cheap laughs in a generic referencing comedy does.

Cats

2007-05-23, 06:56

What's great about this show is that even though I doubt there's anyone out there who laughs or get every little joke there's has to be at least one joke in every episode that makes them laugh.

For me it would have to be Kono-chan's email address and Tsu-chans WTF moments.

GriS

2007-05-23, 08:08

being an anti shoujo-ai, i don't know if im actually enjoying :eyebrow:

i like how LC pokes fun at those who complain of akira's repetitive introductions... shiraishi's imitation FTW :heh:

generally, the first part is all yuri show and second part is all handphone talks...

Scep

2007-05-23, 08:32

Nice episode. I thought konata's dad calling konata was pretty funny. And konata acting all high class. And konata's depiction of the kagami. Ah hell ill never finish if i talk about eveyrhting that was funny in the ep. :/ I guess i just love these comedy anime(s) XD

archanfels

2007-05-23, 09:21

There's not enough Kagami, and no that's not a saying, I mean it. >.> (Okay I'm a sucker for Tsundere/Tsukkomi girls)

Miyuki gets a bit more attention and she deserves it. She's my least favorite at the moment but still if the show is about the four of them she should get more coverage.

Tsukasa on the other hand is getting just a little overdone imo, I for one am not buying this new director and his "trying so hard screaming MOE at your face with Tsukasa" attempts. I just don't enjoy characters who acts moe just to be moe in general I guess.

Konata = Good as always, nothing to complain here, her interaction with Kagami matchs that of classic Manzai and they always crack me up.

Finally, I love the LC, all of them so far, don't see what people are complaining here. The awkward silence at the beginning is the only thing that had me lol in real life and I actually wished it was a little longer.

Overall I'm liking the show more and more and I think I'm gonna look up the original manga.

Anh_Minh

2007-05-23, 09:33

Other question: Konata's got a computer and an internet connection. Can't she download the anime she missed?

Mizuno

2007-05-23, 09:48

maybe she's on dialup. :heh:

man, it's a shame akira doesn't show up anywhere else besides lucky channel, she's got one heck of a split personality. :twitch:

archanfels

2007-05-23, 09:50

Other question: Konata's got a computer and an internet connection. Can't she download the anime she missed?

Because the anime studio and TV broadcasting company want to promote and encourage people download their show from teh interwebz for free instead of watching them on TV or buy the DVD amiright?

Ascaloth

2007-05-23, 10:10

Episode 7 watched, third time running with the [a.f.k.] sub. I could almost get used to this, but I wonder how many references that would otherwise have been covered with a footnote I have missed with [a.f.k.]....

1) Aaya-chan is talented, period. I want to hear her do an oujo-sama role for real next time. :heh:

2) Poor Kagamin, out of all the four girls, she's the one who could really use a man in her life... :p

3) Konata: "In games, when a character who wears glasses show up at school without them, they suddenly become popular..."

Made me think Ichigo 100% immediately. Yeah yeah, even I used to be a pimply-faced adolescent with raging hormones for whom fanservice was once one of the more important criteria. :heh:
Like most of you aren't. :p

4) Konata: "They say that when you diet, you lose weight in the places you don't want to first."

That's why men typically don't really mind how much their girlfriends weigh, I guess. I know for sure I don't; I prefer something that's more "huggable". :p

5) 09:22-09:30,

That's the difference between the E.T. eyes of Toei's Kanon 2k2, and the more proportionate eye-to-face ratio of KyoAni's Kanon 2k6 right there! :D

6) 10:45-10:49,

Tsukasa: "And the person who brings up the idea usually gets put in charge, so nobody's willing to talk."

Amen. I don't think I would have survived 12 years of schooling otherwise. :heh:

7) For some reason, I feel so moe about Kagami's apparent lack of skill at housework. I'll even eat her "frugally made" bento happily. Is something wrong with me? :heh:

8) 12:26-12:31

Konata: "So you're the type of person who can blow up pots when they cook?"
Kagami: "Nobody in the world can do that."

Maybe not, but Ayu comes close....ah. I think I've found the answer to my previous point. :D

9) Kagami: "So I can breath fire."

First time Lucky Star made me laugh out loud. Score for the win!!! :D

10) Lucky Channel.....meh, so they changed it up a little. But the end result is that it's like looking into a mirror; Akira-sama was doing almost the exact same pose as I was doing throughout that sequence. :eyebrow:

So.....not a bad episode, by any accounts. In fact, I find that I'm actually deriving more fun out of the "universal comedy" than the "otaku references" in Lucky Star, and it's not like there's a relative lack of either, so I'm fairly happy with that. I'll throw this one a 9, I guess.

Scep

2007-05-23, 10:27

I loved how the episode started, when konata turned around with half opened, mature looking eyes o.O And hell, aya did a good job voicing that part.

You cant play much MMORPGS on dialup o.O

DragoonKain3

2007-05-23, 10:33

@archanfels
Yay! Another Lucky Channel fan. Very few of us here, unlike say, the MT forums. XD

@ascaloth
3) Yeah, Ichigo 100% was that way, though to be fair I've read many older manga that had that same concept before. Which is a shame really, since I'm a meganekko fan (not so much in anime, but especially in RL).

4) I dunno about most men (more of my male friends like slender women), but I personally don't care much. Most of the females I ever was attracted to were on the plump side.

7) You remind of the dad of the hero in Natsuiro no Sunadokei, who'll gladly eat what his wife cooks everyday. And yes, they're not very tasty to say the least. 'Must be the power of love' LOL

*face-hand* Yeah, because brilliant characters and amazing story just don't redeem a show and make watching it worthwhile in the same way as a couple of cheap laughs in a generic referencing comedy does.
Brilliant characters? From my experience with yuri stories (I have read all of lililicious's scanslations up to the point where shoujo-ai doesn't interest me anymore), MariMite seemed like full of stock characters to me. At the very least, not one of them interested me very much.

Amazing story? It's basically a slice-of-life story, in other words, a character driven show. And when one is not attached to the characters... <_<

Not everyone thinks the same of the certain show. I'm pretty sure you have run across people apart from me who just didn't get MariMite or Sumomomomo, right?

GriS

2007-05-23, 11:14

Other question: Konata's got a computer and an internet connection. Can't she download the anime she missed?

archanfel has said it in sarcastic tone... anyway think logically. Which producer is willing to 'promote' downloading anime from third party website or through third party software? as of today i have never heard of official website providing full access to every individual episode of a series :eyebrow:

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-23, 12:06

Tsukasa on the other hand is getting just a little overdone imo, I for one am not buying this new director and his "trying so hard screaming MOE at your face with Tsukasa" attempts. I just don't enjoy characters who acts moe just to be moe in general I guess.

Nobody ever said they had the best writing staff. I find this is how they usually score points when either they don't want to develop a character or can't for whatever reason. This is the premier complaint about the studio and something I think they need to work on.

Risaa

2007-05-23, 12:49

2) Poor Kagamin, out of all the four girls, she's the one who could really use a man in her life... :p I think that Kagami would be the one most out of the girls who'd try to be as independent and self-sufficient as possible. We know how much she depends upon Kona and Tsukasa (and Miyuki when she needs an explanation) but she's not aware of it and seems convinced that she can handle herself. (She's so cute. :) ) I agree she needs someone to hug her but I don't think she'd ever realize (much less admit) that, IMO. :heh:

The one I think would never get a b/f is Kona... sure guys would want her, but it seems like she'd be too preoccupied with gaming and anime to care. XD

That's why men typically don't really mind how much their girlfriends weigh, I guess. I know for sure I don't; I prefer something that's more "huggable". :p Off topic, but that reminds me of the time I was with a group of people and they were complaining how they've gained weight since coming to college... One of them asked me how I was, and I admitted that I actually lost two pounds since coming. He kind of made a frowney face at me and said, "you know, if you get any thinner, when you turn sideways you'll disappear." :heh:

Kaoru Chujo

2007-05-23, 12:52

I'm with Sorrow-K on Marimite. Great characters, great stories. But everybody gets to have their own opinion, as long as they actually watched some of the show. Note: ep4 of the new OVA series is out next Wednesday.

Konata's ojou-sama and Tsukasa's phone adventures were both overdone, but I'm not complaining. They were funny. I think the new director is less subtle, but smoother. The show works under both directors. It's a bit much to expect a moe show to go soft on the moe. Tsukasa is great.

As for pot explosions, that would be the osananajimi character in Yoake-mae yori Ruri-iro na Crescent Love, and maybe Matsuri in sola (which is an outstanding show, IMO).

Kaioshin continues to never let a single opportunty to bad-mouth KyoAni pass him by. We get the point: you neither like nor respect KyoAni. Fair enough. Next subject.

Vexx

2007-05-23, 12:56

Just watched ep 7.... oddly enough, the thing that made me laugh the hardest was that cut scene of the cicada being sliced up by the ant expedition crew. Wonderful bit of deviancy from the usual cicada cut scene.

Tsukasa note: they aren't "making stuff up for her" .... that's all stuff that's in the manga. They are, for the most part, *doing* the manga (though they're re-arranging a lot of the ordering). There's actually a good bit more to her cellphone experience, poor child. Loved the animation of her frustration during the experience.

Kagami note: yes, I'd eat her bento, she needs a hug, her aggravation just makes me want to hug her more (even when she breathes fire). Oye.. and she's lousy at cooking and housework: tradition dictates that she's great at something else :) (the preceding is purely mythical)

Miyuki note: we get our first hint that Miyuki isn't completely one-dimensional (the ED).

Kona: quite the imp in this one ... points for a Kona-dad appearance, perhaps we'll get to see his hilarity in a few more episodes since we've seen the other families. They simply can't pass up the twin's visiting experiences where they find out more about Kona's family...
I thought her impressions from MariMite went on one scene too many.... but it was very funny. The ojou-sama character type is probably the one I hate most in anime, especially that damned laugh). But neither MariMite or Sumomomomo impressed me at all outside of a few segments (to tag in with DragoonKain3)... the word "generic" is too easily applied if it doesn't include those, eh?

Lucky*Channel: The only thing I can say is that Akira's expression matched my own for most of it (the animation was quite expressive for her). I never even cracked a smile. They really *should* cut to film of the actual actors doing the sketch to add some life back into this segment. Fortunately, I've decided to ignore it for purposes of rating the series.

Other random notes:
Sounds like Kona lives in an "technologically underserved" neighborhood. I empathize with that. (no cable, no broadband).
And yes, you CAN play MMOs on dialup. I've done it for years. You just can't necessarily play the ones with lousy network coding (*cough* Shadowbane *cough* some of the intermediate versions of EQ *cough*).
I've run 3 sessions of DAOC over one dialup with no issues.

@Risaa: ignore him.... most people don't realize how *fat* the average Joe and Jane Public have become in the last 10 years. I weigh 220 (@6'1") and really ought to lose 20 pounds but I walk down a mall or college campus and I feel so thin :upset:. My wife weighs 95 (@4'11"), if she gains 5 pounds she feels like a pig.

Risaa

2007-05-23, 13:20

Sounds like Kona lives in an "technologically underserved" neighborhood. I empathize with that. (no cable, no broadband).
...Oh, MG... that sounds *terrible* to me (I'm a weak person :( ). When you mentioned being bandwidth challenged in some thread long long ago, I suddenly felt bad about my whining about my limit here at school - I'm allowed to transfer up to 15GB in a week. Thank you for making me appreciate what I have... even though it's at your expense. :(

@Risaa: ignore him.... most people don't realize how *fat* the average Joe and Jane Public have become in the last 10 years. I weigh 220 (@6'1") and really ought to lose 20 pounds but I walk down a mall or college campus and I feel so thin :upset:. My wife weighs 95 (@4'11"), if she gains 5 pounds she feels like a pig.
If she feels like a pig at 100 pounds, then me, at my 105~110 must be a cow... j/k. (OK, I admit I felt a little bad when I figured I was "unhuggable". :( )

I hope no one takes this offensively. I was going to mention this before... perhaps many guys like heavier women because they seem to make up the bulk of women available? If you don't have much choice, take what you've got? At least in the U.S...

I recently saw a Korean news report on how overweight children are becoming a problem there due to the spread and popularity of fast food restaurants... then saw a chart that said only 3% of people there are overweight (compared to some very large percentage I've forgotten (*swt*) for the U.S.). I can't really empathize with the Korean viewpoint but I'm glad they're trying to do something about it now before it gets out of hand.

yura`

2007-05-23, 13:22

Personally I thought this episode is the funniest and most enjoyable so far - or maybe Lucky Star has just been getting progressively better as we get to know the girls more. Either way, I found myself actually laughing out loud at certain scenes, in contrast to just smiling at the jokes. Lucky Channel, for once, was funny for me, since I thought it had been rather repetitious and boring for the previous episodes. The silence at the start was brilliant and when I saw the pigtails, my first thought was, "What on earth is that??" Shiraishi's imitation of Akira-sama was simply too hilarious.

Btw, is it just me, or was that a brief reference to Ouran Host Club with that uniform Kagami donned when the twins imagined her as a "high-class ojousama"?

Konata-chan

2007-05-23, 13:24

Episode 7 thoughts, now that I watched the sub.

That's why men typically don't really mind how much their girlfriends weigh, I guess. I know for sure I don't; I prefer something that's more "huggable". :p

I'm glad that's the consensus around here. It makes my already low self-esteem improve (I'm a bit plump myself if you ever see me IRL)

Tsukasa: "And the person who brings up the idea usually gets put in charge, so nobody's willing to talk."

Diffusion of responsibility. I need to stop being lazy at times.

The best part about this episode was the Kagami-Konata interaction, again. Loved the part when Kagami reacted to Konata drawing a picture of her breathing fire. I really like how Konata can expose so much of Kagami. She brings out the adorable side of her.

More of Konata's otaku references, especially "iluvgirlswithglasses"and the obvious references to Marimite and Strawberry Panic. Let's just say that I am in love with Strawberry Panic after watching 8 episodes (NagisaxShizuma and HikaruxAmane love). Now, with that thought, I am wondering exactly what year this show takes place in the anime continuum.

ETA: Yeah, Strawberry Panic aired after Haruhi. Never mind.

Kona has bad penmanship? I relate to her in more ways than one. I've already gotten some comments already on how my penmanship is awful... :eyebrow: Let's just say that I'm very glad I can type faster than I write.

People have been saying that there's more exposure of Miyuki to reveal a deeper facet of her character. I still don't get it. However, I can now clearly see Tsukasa in this show no longer as a "lol filler character". Starting with "balsamic vinegar" and confirming it with her gain/loss of the cell phone, I look forward to seeing more episodes including her. The little comparisions between Konata and Tsukasa by Miyuki and Kagami are pretty cute, too.

We need to see Kagami making more quips at Konata! I love it when Konata makes her annoyed face at Kagami.

Risaa

2007-05-23, 13:30

Here's a bit of randomness... I'm wondering what month Comptiq magazine Kona was last reading... Reason being, I want her to read May 2007's issue.

(I want to see her reading an issue with herself on the cover!! That would just delight me to no end.)

Vexx

2007-05-23, 13:33

(offtopic)
Sales of fast food in Japan are plummeting (i.e. any downtrend scares the hell out of corporate) because the populace is figuring out they're getting fat... before they really have gotten fat. So old-fashioned bentos and traditional food are on the upswing again.

But seriously... if everyone around you is fat, its easier to miss the problem. When I visit "thinner" areas of the world, its just profound to me when I return home how overweight the population is.
(/offtopic)

As for Lucky*Star, I'd be among those who doesn't think the material *need* excessive "references" to succeed. The manga itself has a number of them but its in context with what the girls actually do. I didn't mind the Sgt. Frog insert... because people *actually* do like those things and have them (one of my son's has a Totoro on his cellphone, his girlfriend has a HelloKittyGothette on hers). People *do* come to school imitating their favorite characters or quoting lines... so the Marimite thing fits.

I guess the episode also succeeds for me because all the core characters got substantitive airtime (no one excessively dominated). Attention to detail in facial expressions was also a win (particularly Tsukasa and Kagami). Heh.... Kona-drool directly from the comic :)

@Konata-chan: Miyuki (at least in the 4 volumes of the manga so far) never *really* catches up to the others in terms of getting past superficial archetype. She does have a few "subverted paradigms" but not nearly as many as the other three girls. She also gets sidelined a bit when the other characters appear -- so I suspect the author got a bit of writer's block about what to do with her.

Tatsumiko

2007-05-23, 13:58

Well this one made me hungry....too bad 7 wasn't as great as 6 and 5.
But this one was a-ok....XDDD really like how Tsukasa lost her mobilephone...awww kawaii baka X3.

I think they actually tried to make Miyuki more interresting this time 0.0"

But the guy didnt have to worry that people might switch the channel...This one was very different !

Did anyone got the part why Akira was so mad?

FatPianoBoy

2007-05-23, 14:05

Did anyone got the part why Akira was so mad?

Akira was angry because she was the one supposed to be wearing pigtails as per the letter recieved in either episode one or two. Instead, Shiraishi stole the show by doing it himself. Nothing gets her seeing red like horning in on her screen time.

Speaking of Lucky Channel, I was glad to see something a bit different this week. Just when I knew I'd be sick of it if they pulled out the same shtick, they switched it up a little. Granted, it's not the complete overhaul it's going to need very, very soon, but it kept me from getting bored.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-23, 14:40

Nothing particularly witty to say this time, I guess he animation is back to normal from the improved animation we saw last time:

At School: That is the single most terrifiying thing I've ever seen (Konata in Ojou-Sama that is). Kagami seems disgusted to. Love the weird slurry noises from Konata. I'm not sure if that's an evil laugh or not. Well at least after the title card Konata is back to normal (she still sounds kind of weird though). Sorry to burst your bubble girls, but Konata is not high class, and I guess it's hard to picture it. Oh here we go, it's a Miyuki/Tsukasa conversation, I doubt this goes anywhere. You know, Miyuki and Konata do sound kind of the same here and it's creeping me out. WHAT THE FRIG IS HE DOING HERE?! Either way I'm not sure I like creepy Ojou-Sama Konata.

In Class: Some Yuri tension (I can't tell if Kagami is resisiting or not, but I know what I'd do in that situation, stand perfectly still).

At Home: Konata seems to have come down with Asthma or something (and is wearing a tank top and shorts :love:). I think Konata is asking the wrong person for help on her homework (to date Yui has done nothing useful). Sleep Drool! I've noticed that Konata's tanktop is too large for her and thus dangerously revealing. Konata's poses at the TV, Oh My God! :love:

At School: The look on Miyuki's glassless face is priceless. Poor Miyuki needs to borrow notes, but both Konata's and Tsukasa's are useless (and apparently she has no problem reading them without glasses). However, Kagami is there to save the day (THE SWEAT DROP NOISE! YES!:D It sounds like the first part of the noise the Ideon Sword makes). Konata tries to rationalize Miyuki's situation through the use of video game logic. Shin Getter 2 Dentist makes it's triumphant return here. A reused joke of the Cornet with a minor variation involving a fatass Kagami. A discussion ensues about weight gain with some funky music. More Konata and Kagami themed sexual harrassment involving Kagami's chest (and yes the cloud is indeed a cornet in the scene transition).

In class: You've gotta wonder if Konata is some sort of Eric Cartman type character who enjoy's seeing Miyuki struggling to read. She really picks on Miyuki a lot for our pleasure. Did Kyoto Animation just make fun of their own blinding light technique by having the characters break the fourth wall and react to it.

Shopping: Looks like Konata's a poor planner.

Restaurant: Tsukasa chowing down on a hamburger while sitting down (This time we see her from a different angle when she's sitting). Despite the fact that Konata is athletic, all she seems to care about is sitting around watching anime and playing games (sounds like me).

Walking: Somehow I think the idea of Konata cooking can only lead to disaster. Holy lazy animation with Konata on the cell phone (Show us her face!).

At School: Konata thinks Kagami will causes the pot to explode when cooking, harem character style. Konata muses about dinner at Miyuki's place (We really need to see her house at some point).

Walking: The Cell Phone. Tsukasa needs to practice on her sweat drop noises as she spazes out to find her cell phone number. Dude I think she's stuck in a loop. Keroro from nowhere now.

At School: Ah the War of The Roses eh. Tsukasa's cell phone goes of in class playing something that sounds like it would be used in Legend of The Galactic Heroes. Teach promptly breaks her hear. Joke here is a little drawn out with the twins obsessive father. Konata's father however is badass.

Field Trip: Weird choice of e-mail addresses for Konata (Apparently Kagami won't allow her to speak in public anymore).

Walking: Tsukasa seems to have lost her cell phone, but Keroro is safe-de arimasu.

At Kagami's: Moved to tears by manga eh (Say, that's a nice outfit).

School: Okay I'm garnering like twenty different ideas about Manga readers right now. Pushing Keroro Gunsou a Kadokawa published manga (GAME PENALTY!, even though I like it). Whoa, crazy picture.

Walking: Pushing another one (GAME PENALTY AGAIN!)

Lucky Channel: Enthralling! NOT HARDLY!

Ending: Weird Voice for Miyuki there.

I've noticed a bit of a pattern in my enjoyment where the first half of each episode seems to be drawn out and the second half is very funny. I liked the Cell Phone Scene, The Burger Joint Discussion, and The Blinding Light Joke. What I didn't like was the somewhat reused jokes that, while done much better and with variations this time, are still the same. Some Lazy Animation and Lucky Channel were a bummer as well and the ending was kind of awkard. Also two Game Penalties for product placement again brings things down by a point.

Normally we are looking at an 8.5 or so, but these problems brings down to about a 7 level for me. Seven Out of Ten.

Also about the alleged cheapshot at Kyoto Animation, while I do feel they tend to do the Moe thing a bit to much instead of characters, I should add I didn't get that at all from Tsukasa this episode. I think she is just a little manic and the fact that she got a lot of focus again made it look like they were going overkill with moe when in fact she just had a weird couple of days that made her hyper expressive.

Vexx

2007-05-23, 14:50

If one watches carefully, one will notice that Tsukasa is not as dumb as she seems in some ways... note how she carefully executes safety valve derails of the conversation anytime Kona and Kagami start overloading the nuclear reactor tubes. She has good "Team Management" attributes (but scores negative on Tech Magic :) ).

@Kaioshin: I do believe Kona's Marimite impression is supposed to be as scary as hell (firmly with Kagami's opinion there :) ). Kona-drool and tanktop was endearing in a messy way and Kona-dad is definitely cool, anxious to see him do his skits.

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-23, 15:17

Mirrinus

2007-05-23, 15:43

Wow. That Marimite parody was so scary, it was hilarious! Great display of vocal variety.

I also totally identify with what Konata said about never replying to e-mails when I can simply see the person in real life. It's a habit that I've recieved many complaints about too. >_<

a hobbit

2007-05-23, 16:10

I loved this episode =P all the cellphone parts were hilarious, but I must agree with Mirrinus that the Marimite parody was pretty scary lol ^^

Dop

2007-05-23, 16:26

Ok, I've seen the episode now...

Konata's Marimite moment was almost scary in its execution, but topped when she talked like that to Miyuki who didn't notice anything wrong! That was probably the best part of the episode.

"Right now", I thought, "There are people doing fan art of Konata in a Lillian uniform and posting it on the internet. Be afraid, be very afraid..."

But still Kona-chan, going from Marimite to Strawberry Panic, I mean, that's a bit of a come-down isn't it?

tacobueno

2007-05-23, 17:50

Kinda enjoyed this episode overall, which was a first, and the Lucky Channel thing at the end was surprisingly funny. Definite improvement here :).

oop meant to rate it a 7 not a 6 doh

Skane

2007-05-23, 20:11

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If she feels like a pig at 100 pounds, then me, at my 105~110 must be a cow... j/k. (OK, I admit I felt a little bad when I figured I was "unhuggable". :( )
Height is a factor too. You can't just solely look at the weight. Vexx's wife is very, very petite (as in, Konata-petite). If Person A is 170cm tall and weighs 50kg, then that person is underweight. If Person B is 150cm tall and weighs 50kg, then that person is normal.

Person A's BMI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index) = 50 / 1.7² = 17.30
Person B's BMI = 50 / 1.5² = 22.22

[Just for trivia, my current BMI is 18.94]

So unless you're a midget ("But, I'm just a Gnome..."), your weight doesn't seem particularly heavy (I'm terrible at interpreting non-metric values though :p).

I hope no one takes this offensively. I was going to mention this before... perhaps many guys like heavier women because they seem to make up the bulk of women available? If you don't have much choice, take what you've got? At least in the U.S...

I recently saw a Korean news report on how overweight children are becoming a problem there due to the spread and popularity of fast food restaurants... then saw a chart that said only 3% of people there are overweight (compared to some very large percentage I've forgotten (*swt*) for the U.S.). I can't really empathize with the Korean viewpoint but I'm glad they're trying to do something about it now before it gets out of hand.
The one time I went to the USA, it was to Seattle (in 2005). Not once did it ever occur to me that the general populace there was scale-heavy (if anything, the people there seem to be very healthy, in a "we exercise everyday" kind of healthy).

Of course, being a coastal city, Seattle boasts a lot of seafood in their daily diet, which is already naturally less "fattening" than red meat, so that might be a contributing factor. Mmm... I still savour at the thought of their Salmon. :naughty:

So I am guessing it also varies from city to city.
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From this point on, the tone of my post will be rather blunt, and if the person reading this is particularly sensitive about weight-issues, then please cease immediately and go on to the next post. Politically-correct be damned.

I don't like "bony" women, but neither do I like overweight women. It is not about shallow thinking, but personal preference. Of course, if I were to say this in person to a lady, I would come off as- Well, I'll let the following comic illustrate my point.

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1024/betweenthelinesut8.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=betweenthelinesut8.jpg)

That said, this only applies to ROMANTIC endeavours. Again, this might come off as particularly insulting, but I don't concern myself with a person's weight when it comes to friendship. A girl could be a candidate for Jabba the Hutt's wife, and I will have no problems being good friends with her.

Not that I will point it out in front of them. :p Since that would lead to them sitting on me. No really, that's not a joke. They have sat on me before. In public. In front of people. :p

Whether my viewpoint will change after I get married, I honestly don't know. I will let the future do the talking on that one.Cheers.

Ascaloth

2007-05-23, 20:30

@archanfels
7) You remind of the dad of the hero in Natsuiro no Sunadokei, who'll gladly eat what his wife cooks everyday. And yes, they're not very tasty to say the least. 'Must be the power of love' LOL

Maybe. Or maybe after 7 years in Kagami's case, whoever's her husband would gladly eat her frugally made bento...because the alternative is to see her breath fire. :naughty:

As for me, I can't speak for my future self....but me as I am now would happily eat Kagami's bento anyway. :D

Nobody ever said they had the best writing staff. I find this is how they usually score points when either they don't want to develop a character or can't for whatever reason. This is the premier complaint about the studio and something I think they need to work on.

Gee, where have I heard that before? :rolleyes:

Moving on to more useful discussion.

The one I think would never get a b/f is Kona... sure guys would want her, but it seems like she'd be too preoccupied with gaming and anime to care. XD

I just hope she doesn't turn out to be one of those "e-skanks" that was on everybody's mouths a while back... :uhoh:

If she feels like a pig at 100 pounds, then me, at my 105~110 must be a cow... j/k. (OK, I admit I felt a little bad when I figured I was "unhuggable". :( )

Unhuggable? Hardly. One needs at least some flesh to be "huggable" in my reckoning....so don't feel bad, I'll hug you. ;)

I'm glad that's the consensus around here. It makes my already low self-esteem improve (I'm a bit plump myself if you ever see me IRL)

Oh shut up, I'll hug you too. :p

Not that I will point it out in front of them. :p Since that would lead to them sitting on me. No really, that's not a joke. They have sat on me before. In public. In front of people. :p

Must feel nice. :naughty:

Risaa

2007-05-23, 20:57

Ah, I'm well aware of BMI. :) I was just joking - I know I'm not heavy at all. This site (http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/) is good for calculating your BMI... and for the record, we have the same BMI.. I'm also 18.9. XD When I lose weight over the summer I'll probably be back at 18 again... same every year.

As for Kona being an "e-skank"... never! She's too busy obtaining swords and loincloths for junk like that. XD

Dracil

2007-05-23, 21:41

Woot! I've actually sung the ending song at karaoke! :D

I first heard it on NHK's annual year-end Kouhaku Uta Gassen

Skane

2007-05-23, 21:41

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Must feel nice. :naughty:
All in the name of fun and laughter. :heh:
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The following is based on [a.f.k.]'s fansub-

Random Thoughts on Ep07:
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After mimicking the artstyle of Initial D and MariMite, I wonder what other artstyles will KyoAni attempt to parody? The sadist in me ponders the idea of them doing a "Cabbage Love" quality episode. :p Ep06 was probably the closest they ever got to ramping the animation quality to Air(TV)-levels (in other words, GROSS OVERKILL).

Meanwhile, I am just bidding my time to see them insert a lambda-driver special effect in an episode. :heh: Then the circle will be complete. :p
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Kagami did the feline smile too! :D

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The "ojou-sama" style of speech is apparently normal to Miyuki. :p How... fitting. :heh:
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Kagami choosing her major so that she would be with the others. :D The banter between her and Konata just cracks me up. Especially when she went hysterical at Tsukasa's loose lips.
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There were two morbid sequences in this episode. The first one was the cicada. A set-up, the middle, and the bad end. Same for Keroro. A set-up, the middle, and the bad end. I wonder if the animators were trying to convey some message here? :heh:
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Strawberry Panic! Suzumi Tamao! :love:

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Lots of note-worthy quotes in this episode. :D

Well... It's not happening again.
They say that when you diet, you lose weight in the places you don't want to first.
You suck. You're worse than a child.
I have to give props to Kagami's VA again for her brilliant delivery in voicing out Kagami. A lot of the humour in her dialogue comes from the way she says it. Reading her lines alone, the words don't seem particularly funny, but when you HEAR it, it becomes gut-bustingly funny. :)
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I will have to admit that Miyuki's squinting at the blackboard was adorable.
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Tsukasa wins this episode's Cute Award though, with her frantic expressions over her handphone.
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I wonder if the girls will ever visit Miyuki's home?
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Lucky Channel was funny this time, in mortifying sort of way. :heh:

Cheers.

Claies

2007-05-23, 22:21

My random thoughts:

- Tsukasa stole the show with her phone (and its death). Must have converted a whole lot of people with that one.

- Kona x Kagamin moments aren't as awesome as I thought they would be.

- Not news: When Kagamin comments that Kona's communication habits would lose her a lot of friends, Kona simply replied that she doesn't care. News: Kagamin gets distressed by that.

- Kagamin picked classes just to be with Kona et al. Conclusion: She doesn't have friends either.

- On Kona's dad, to quote ZOMGFTA Fullmetal Alchemist scanlation team: "HOBOLICIOUS!"

- Lucky Channel gets my vote back. Go Shirashi.

- Miyuki's singing is hysterical.

I think Kona's being shown in a bad light this episode. :heh:

Ascaloth

2007-05-24, 01:49

Kagami note: yes, I'd eat her bento, she needs a hug, her aggravation just makes me want to hug her more (even when she breathes fire). Oye.. and she's lousy at cooking and housework: tradition dictates that she's great at something else :) (the preceding is purely mythical).

I must be getting sicker and sicker in the head every day; this is like, the third time I'm rereading this, and for some reason, when I came across that line, I was thinking of a very specific "something else". :heh:

There were two morbid sequences in this episode. The first one was the cicada. A set-up, the middle, and the bad end. Same for Keroro. A set-up, the middle, and the bad end. I wonder if the animators were trying to convey some message here? :heh:

AIR (TV), perhaps? :p

Wandering_Youth

2007-05-24, 01:57

Hehe. I found Konata's little act of being a lady to be funny but at the same time it rubs me the wrong way. I would say it wasn't the 360 personality shift but her dang eyes just...freak me out. :twitch:

On scene at 5:00 was Konata whispering, "High School?"

I just loved the scene where Konata finds out that Kagami is chosing courses with majority her class just because she doesn't want to be left alone. It was awsome and funny seeing how Konata was just teasing Kagami.

Lmao! Poor little cellphone got wasted in the most lame way. I had times when I almost forgot to take my phone out of my pants when I throw them out in the washing machine. :heh:

Skane

2007-05-24, 02:42

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AIR (TV), perhaps? :pNah. The seagull in Ep06 was Air(TV), but not this cicada. It just felt so... random. I mean, I doubt it was in the 4Koma, so what possessed them to animate in detail, the life and death of a cicada?

"Okay folks, for this week, we're going to animate several ants tearing a cicada apart."

Sometimes I wonder whether these segments are their weekly practice in animation techniques or something. :p Otherwise it would be a huge waste of their budget (unless they're rolling in the dough and couldn't care less about expenses (especially since their Kanon(2006) DVDs are consistently making the Top10 List for Anime DVD sales)).

Hehe. I found Konata's little act of being a lady to be funny but at the same time it rubs me the wrong way. I would say it wasn't the 360 personality shift but her dang eyes just...freak me out. :twitch:
~It's a satire of MariMite's artstyle. See if you can survive this short (but "badass") AMV of MariMite. ;)

Worlds Apart (Catholic Schoolgirls in Trouble) (http://anime.jefflawson.net/2007/02/15/amv-week-worlds-apart-catholic-schoolgirls-in-trouble/)

Cheers.

Kinny Riddle

2007-05-24, 02:50

Kona-chan is really into yuri these days, first she imitates Marimite (Wow, Hirano Aya sure can do a wide range of voices), and then she watches Strawberry Panic. Not to mention harassing poor Kagamin every time she has the chance.

LOL at Kagamin picking liberal arts just so she can be with her pals. Poor girl. :heh:

Miyuki without glasses = "hawt" (Kona-chan mentions meganekkos becoming more popular once they rid themselves of their glasses, and I couldn't agree less. Best example? Nagato Yuki. )

I know just how troubled Tsukasa-chan must be, buying a new cell phone, you bookmark everyone's numbers, in the end, you don't know what your own number is. :D I usually bookmark my own number, lest I forget it. Tsukasa-chan can also try calling Kona-chan......no wait, Kona-chan doesn't even bring her cell out......she could try calling her sister and her number would be displayed on Kagamin's cell, though it'll cost her a few cents.

And it is revealed why Kona-chan doesn't bother bringing her cell out - she doesn't want to be bugged by her otaku dad, who does his best to show he cares. I LOL'd hard at that scene. :heh:

Amused at Lucky Channel poking fun at the real Shiraishi crossdressing during recording sessions.

And I never knew Miyuki could sing in such a manly voice.

Another excellent episode. I'm really tempted to go buy the manga now.

FatPianoBoy

2007-05-24, 03:05

what possessed them to animate in detail, the life and of a cicada?

"Okay folks, for this week, we're going to animate several ants tearing a cicada apart."

The first thing I thought of when I saw that scene was a very similar scene in Crest of the Stars which featured ants attacking cicada as a metaphor for several smaller ships overwhelming a large one. Heck if I'm going to dig up a screencap, though.
Sounds a bit obscure, but some of Konata's references leave people much more versed in anime than myself scratching their heads.

On the other hand, it could be that they were going for 'most roundabout reference of the year' and it was supposed to be a nod to Higurashi.

Vallen Chaos Valiant

2007-05-24, 03:06

Nah. The seagull in Ep06 was Air(TV), but not this cicada. It just felt so... random. I mean, I doubt it was in the 4Koma, so what possessed them to animate in detail, the life and death of a cicada?

"Okay folks, for this week, we're going to animate several ants tearing a cicada apart."

Sometimes I wonder whether these segments are their weekly practice in animation techniques or something. :p Otherwise it would be a huge waste of their budget (unless they're rolling in the dough and couldn't care less about expenses (especially since their Kanon(2006) DVDs are consistently making the Top10 List for Anime DVD sales)).

Hold on... am I the only one to realise the whole point of the cicada was about telling us what time of the year this episode is set in?

Cicadas emerge from the ground in June, and die off mid-July. By the way, cicadas are such notoriously bad flyers that myths claimed they were blind. Thus there wasn't that strange that one would smash into something in this episode.

EDIT: Just to confirm the month the story is set in, the story in ep 7 starts with a brand new school year. Kagami is now in the same class as everyone else due to her intentional subject selections, so she no longer has to show up only during breaks. (It was also now confirmed that Kagami doesn't have any friends in her own class back then; it must be very lonely.) There had been a clear progression of time in LuckStar, with the most obvious being the change from Winter to Summer uniform.

Vexx

2007-05-24, 04:10

The first thing I thought of when I saw that scene was a very similar scene in Crest of the Stars which featured ants attacking cicada as a metaphor for several smaller ships overwhelming a large one. Heck if I'm going to dig up a screencap, though.
Sounds a bit obscure, but some of Konata's references leave people much more versed in anime than myself scratching their heads.

On the other hand, it could be that they were going for 'most roundabout reference of the year' and it was supposed to be a nod to Higurashi.

I thought the cicada sequence and the flying suicide bug was just a wonderful subversion of the "usual cut scene to establish mood" that we see in uncounted numbers of anime.

But yeah I see Vallen's points there.... I did catch the implied pathos in Kagami's shift in major (I missed that subtlety in the manga) --- she really was a lonely little girl over where she was. I can just picture the righteous little thing ostracized for trying to be "so good" :)

I've lost count of the number of times I've called one of my sons, only to hear their ringtone firing off "somewhere in the house" .... ... my wife's rarely does that... as its usually run down and died from her constant starvation of the cellular e-pet.

Anh_Minh

2007-05-24, 05:04

Hold on... am I the only one to realise the whole point of the cicada was about telling us what time of the year this episode is set in?

Cicadas emerge from the ground in June, and die off mid-July. By the way, cicadas are such notoriously bad flyers that myths claimed they were blind. Thus there wasn't that strange that one would smash into something in this episode.

EDIT: Just to confirm the month the story is set in, the story in ep 7 starts with a brand new school year. Kagami is now in the same class as everyone else due to her intentional subject selections, so she no longer has to show up only during breaks. (It was also now confirmed that Kagami doesn't have any friends in her own class back then; it must be very lonely.) There had been a clear progression of time in LuckStar, with the most obvious being the change from Winter to Summer uniform.
Can't be. It said "second semester" on the blackboard, and they're apparently just back from summer break. The school year in Japan starts in april, IIRC. So they're still probably second year.

Simon

2007-05-24, 06:42

It said "second semester" on the blackboard, and they're apparently just back from summer break. The school year in Japan starts in april, IIRC.

Yep, although a government panel has suggested (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6293849.stm) moving it to Autumn (which IMO is sacrilege - what would become of anime if the school year didn't begin with gently falling cherry-blossoms?).

The fact that Sto-Pani is still on air makes it July 2006 - so is that the 2006 version of Sailorfuku and Machinegun on the cover of Konata's TV guide (http://www.hikari.org.nz/stuff/otaku/lucky_star/lucky_star_ep7_tv_guide.jpg)?

And just a general comment, the Marimite gag gets my vote for funniest bit of the series yet. Sachiko will never sound the same again!

rogueblade

2007-05-24, 07:41

I didn't get the 'marimite' reference - what's that all about?

I thought this episode was good, Tsukasa was cute as heck when trying to get through here phone, and the chocolate cone made an appearance again, which is always good.
Gotta say i laughed hard at the first couple of seconds of Lucky channel.

Wandering_Youth

2007-05-24, 08:45

It's a satire of MariMite's artstyle. See if you can survive this short (but "badass") AMV of MariMite. ;)

Worlds Apart (Catholic Schoolgirls in Trouble) (http://anime.jefflawson.net/2007/02/15/amv-week-worlds-apart-catholic-schoolgirls-in-trouble/)

Cheers.
Link is not working for me.

Edit: Nvm, it works now. It said the server was not responding yesterday.

Skane

2007-05-24, 08:56

Link is not working for me.
Eh? I just clicked on it, and the webpage loads just fine. :confused:

Hmm?

GriS

2007-05-24, 09:51

Eh? I just clicked on it, and the webpage loads just fine. :confused:

Hmm?Works fine for me, too

I didn't get the 'marimite' reference - what's that all about?marimite is short for Maria-sama ga Miteru (http://anidb.info/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=1297)

Vexx

2007-05-24, 11:43

Yep, although a government panel has suggested (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6293849.stm) moving it to Autumn (which IMO is sacrilege - what would become of anime if the school year didn't begin with gently falling cherry-blossoms?).

That would be completely horrible!!!! I've always liked the idea of school starting in springtime (of course I'm also a fan of all-year school with extended breaks like they have --- people don't forget so much as they do on a 3 month break). Somehow I doubt they'd seriously consider my input on the matter even if I knew where to write :)

kenjiharima

2007-05-24, 12:47

finally saw it with subs. Loved this ep. This episode I noticed about parenting...Since Kagami and Tsukasa's dad called them both via celphone he's worried. He maybe said where are you now...blah blah the usual stuff that makes teenagers mad at their parents being over protective. LOL :heh:

Funny thing about this part is that that that's the first time we see Konata's dad in the anime and he is also concerned. But Konata often leaves her phone so it's a sure LOL for me.

gave it a 9 btw I wanted to give it an 8, but since RARELY daddy's good points are mentioned in anime and IRL it's a 9 *thumbs up* Horray for dads.

kyonkun

2007-05-24, 13:58

Best episode yet! My 2.43 yen's worth:

- Marmite parody was priceless. Liked the contrast of how Tsukasa and Kagami thought Konata was weird...but Miyuki went with the flow and didn't think twice. Tsukasa's reaction was Truth: "When Miyuki says 'Gokigen yo' ['Good Day'] it sounds natural." If it weren't were her clumsiness, 'Yuki-chan would be perfect for an all-girl's private school.

- Too bad Lucky Star didn't offer a take on the cliche introduction scene. You know, the one where the New Girl enters the private academy, meets the Most Beautiful Elder On Campus, and hears 'Gokigen yo' whispered into her ear and they pass each other. (I haven't seen Marmite/Maria-sama ga Miteru, but I've seen this scene in both Kannazuki no Miko and Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru.)

- They milked the Marmite bit by having Kona-chan dub Shiraishi as "Sebastian". LOL moment.

- What was the Strawberry Panic reference? I never saw the series.

- Scenes with cicadas were funny-disturbing. Gotta hand it to Kyouto Animation for doing a parody (if that's what I think it is) on this cliche. You hear the sound of cicadas all the time in anime to signify summer. Note how Kyo-Ani does *not* use the *identical* sound clip of cicadas that every other anime series uses. And showing how the cicadas are hitting things, falling, and getting dismembered (yuck) by ants is a creative way to show that summer (vacation) has ended and school has resumed. Not at all Peanuts-like. (I docked half a point for this bit of creative yet dark humor.)

- Cell phone scenes really put Tsukasa in the limelight. I did think the scene where Tsukasa was looking for her number dragged a bit (and the animation took some obvious corner-cutting). This normally wouldn't be a problem if an episode of LS is 40 min...but since we only have half as much time to work with, I wish we moved on sooner.

- Why did Miyuki have trouble with Tsukasa's notes? Were they too detailed?

- "My username is hard to guess. It's 'Iluvgirlswithglasses.'" Kona's full of teh win!

- Lucky Channel started out *full* of funny. Unlike the cell phone scene, the prolonged silence was *perfect*. LOL at Shiraichi's new look. Liked the way Akira began with her Mean Voice (to Old Timers...does it remind you of Megumi Hayashibara's rendition of Ranma-kun's voice?) instead of her hyper one. LC has been running out of steam in previous episodes, so I liked the flip-flop in pacing.

- Miyuki's karaoke voice was jarring. It just didn't feel right to hear Miyuki changing registers so drastically. I took off another half point for the strange contrast.

Summary: I enjoyed it. Looking forward to next week's. Thank you, a.f.k.. [Konata voice] Good Job! :D

Deathkillz

2007-05-24, 14:34

- What was the Strawberry Panic reference? I never saw the series.

- Why did Miyuki have trouble with Tsukasa's notes? Were they too detailed?

the insert song playing when Konata was watching TV is the 2nd OP to Strawberry Panic :3

and they were so detailed that tsukasa didnt manage to get all the notes down...thats soo like her :heh:

Kaioshin Sama

2007-05-24, 14:43

the insert song playing when Konata was watching TV is the 2nd OP to Strawberry Panic :3

and they were so detailed that tsukasa didnt manage to get all the notes down...thats soo like her :heh:

I found in University that when I went to focus on scribbling notes I always ended up missing something the professor said, making things worse for my knowledge of the course material. Ultimately, I trained myself to commit lectures to memory using a system of triggers and keywords to call up important details when I need to write about them and it worked like a charm. From then on I never took notes in class again and now I'm 14 days away from getting my degree. It doesn't work for everybody though.

DJ_RockmanX

2007-05-24, 14:51

I found in University that when I went to focus on scribbling notes I always ended up missing something the professor said, making things worse for my knowledge of the course material. Ultimately, I trained myself to commit lectures to memory using a system of triggers and keywords to call up important details when I need to write about them and it worked like a charm. From then on I never took notes in class again and now I'm 14 days away from getting my degree. It doesn't work for everybody though.

That's the same system I use! o_o;

'Cept I started using it in my 2nd year history class. :D

Doesn't help me with classes dissimilar in lecture format though, which is why I'll fail terribly at other courses if I'm using that system. >_>;;

Vexx

2007-05-24, 15:00

- Scenes with cicadas were funny-disturbing. Gotta hand it to Kyouto Animation for doing a parody (if that's what I think it is) on this cliche. You hear the sound of cicadas all the time in anime to signify summer. Note how Kyo-Ani does *not* use the *identical* sound clip of cicadas that every other anime series uses. And showing how the cicadas are hitting things, falling, and getting dismembered (yuck) by ants is a creative way to show that summer (vacation) has ended and school has resumed. Not at all Peanuts-like. (I docked half a point for this bit of creative yet dark humor.)

Silly rabbit... you should read *classic* Peanuts. It was full of dark and disturbing commentary (for the time anyway), cynicism, failure, depression, never-take-opportunity, cruelty :)

- Why did Miyuki have trouble with Tsukasa's notes? Were they too detailed?

Yes .... Tsukasa seems to lack the ability to process the lecture while taking notes so she writes EVERYTHING down, burying the important stuff in trivialities. We're left unanswered as to whether she writes fast enough or that she falls so far behind that the notes are incomplete.

- Miyuki's karaoke voice was jarring. It just didn't feel right to hear Miyuki changing registers so drastically. I took off another half point for the strange contrast.

That's called foreshadowing :) ... listen to what Kona says while Miyuki is singing. The voice actually does fit as we'll hopefully discover.

I'm still waving a banner for EnA, so far their work has been more preferable to me in terms of translation, style, and font/color choices. However, I suspect the OP is still wild-ass guessing like all the other groups :)

WanderingKnight

2007-05-24, 16:22

However, I suspect the OP is still wild-ass guessing like all the other groups

Not anymore... Remember that the single has already been released (music thread, hint hint) ;)

Konata-chan

2007-05-24, 16:35

I found in University that when I went to focus on scribbling notes I always ended up missing something the professor said, making things worse for my knowledge of the course material. Ultimately, I trained myself to commit lectures to memory using a system of triggers and keywords to call up important details when I need to write about them and it worked like a charm. From then on I never took notes in class again and now I'm 14 days away from getting my degree. It doesn't work for everybody though.

For me, I just simply bring my laptop to class. I usually can catch most stuff verbatim. Luckily, I've learned how to type since like 2nd-3rd grade in elementary school, and I can type way faster than jotting stuff by hand.

Then again, I would have a hard time trying to pay attention to the lecture and not open up Firefox or AIM.

Mirrinus

2007-05-24, 17:19

For me, I just simply bring my laptop to class. I usually can catch most stuff verbatim. Luckily, I've learned how to type since like 2nd-3rd grade in elementary school, and I can type way faster than jotting stuff by hand.

Then again, I would have a hard time trying to pay attention to the lecture and not open up Firefox or AIM.

I am SOOO guilty of this. You have no idea how often I pop into AnimeSuki during poli-sci lectures...

Kyuusai

2007-05-24, 17:38

Scenes with cicadas were funny-disturbing. Gotta hand it to Kyouto Animation for doing a parody (if that's what I think it is) on this cliche. You hear the sound of cicadas all the time in anime to signify summer. Note how Kyo-Ani does *not* use the *identical* sound clip of cicadas that every other anime series uses. And showing how the cicadas are hitting things, falling, and getting dismembered (yuck) by ants is a creative way to show that summer (vacation) has ended and school has resumed. Not at all Peanuts-like. (I docked half a point for this bit of creative yet dark humor.)

I have to ask... are you in an area with cicadas?

Being from an area with lots of cicadas (*sigh*, summer scenes in anime are like a trip back home), I can tell you that that's just life as usual with the little buggers, so I don't think they were meant to be disturbing at all.

Silly rabbit... you should read *classic* Peanuts. It was full of dark and disturbing commentary (for the time anyway), cynicism, failure, depression, never-take-opportunity, cruelty :)

"Good old Charlie Brown!

How I hate him!"

:D

That's called foreshadowing :) ... listen to what Kona says while Miyuki is singing. The voice actually does fit as we'll hopefully discover.

By this I assume you mean we see more of Miyuki's character as it's portrayed in the comics.

The prospect excites me tremendously. I'd have been OK with Miyuki as the "ball of moe" so long as she had a personality, but it never really seemed to be quite right for her, and that aspect of her and the ojousan side never seemed to mesh. What's missing, I think, is seeing what's underneath that links the two (maybe not directly connected, but just something to flesh out her character). If that's the case, I may raise my impressions of the character to the expectations I'd had before. Not the sort of character affection I'd had for Haruhi's Mikuru as I'd expected, but instead as I had for Kanon's Sayuri. :)

My liking for Sayuri shot up when it was observed how determined she could be about certain things. I keep coming across the phrase in the wikipedia character description that reads "On the rare occasion that she plays video games, her personality changes." This can only go to good places. :D

Risaa

2007-05-24, 17:54

Being from an area with lots of cicadas (*sigh*, summer scenes in anime are like a trip back home), I can tell you that that's just life as usual with the little buggers, so I don't think they were meant to be disturbing at all.

That's kind of the way I am... Cicadas still freak me out when I see one (which is why I'm glad they're camouflaged well), but it really just is "life as usual"... ants picking one apart isn't disturbing to me in the least. I wasn't aware that the scenes with the cicadas were a reference, but I thought they were nice transition scenes regardless. I think a good transition scene really helps set the mood.

Claies

2007-05-24, 19:47

By this I assume you mean we see more of Miyuki's character as it's portrayed in the comics.

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde! :twitch:
Now that would be freaky.

I guess this means that we'll see her playing a game next episode. Oh dear god. :heh:

JediNight

2007-05-24, 20:34

Manabi Straight had 2 great cicada gags as well, both in like Ep6 or so. Mei-chan comes to the window and says "Shut up!" and the cicada stops whirring lol... then later on see the cicada just fall off the side of the tree for no apparent reason.

Skane

2007-05-24, 20:58

On the issue of note-taking... back when I first started my courses in Polytechnic, the concept of lecture-based lessons was relatively novel to me, and the idea of note-taking was alien to me as well, as I had grown so used to printed supplements from my years in Secondary School (aka spoon-feeding).

Also, by nature, I am very fond of elaborate writing and consistently wrote in excruciating detail (much like Tsukasa, if my interpretation of that scene is correct). So I was in a pinch when I had to suddenly jot down in point detail, what the lecturers were rambling about. It just went against all my "instincts".

In Secondary School, I averaged about 20-25 words per line (and per minute) on an A4-sized paper (with 1-inch side margins) in small font due to my lengthy writing(NOT tiny fonts, but smaller than average. Try writing 20 words on such an A4-sized paper to get an idea of the size of the font I wrote in), since I would kill trees if I wrote any bigger. Small fonts however, are not easy to write legibly at high-speed.

I also hated cursive writing, since I felt that it was a lazy way of writing, and prefer to write each letter by letter. Again, this was not conducive for speed-writing.

I had to adapt, and quickly. :heh: My first year course actually had lessons to help students like me adapt to the "radically" different style of teaching in Polytechnic (compared to our Secondary Schools)

One of the first things I had to do was to warm up to the idea of writing in short-form. After years of imprinting, I was basically told to screw the rules and learn to be a deviant writer. :heh:

We were taught some basic short-forms, but one of the problems of using them was that they were not your own short-forms, and as anybody will tell you, it is easier to remember (and use) what you created on your own.

Therefore, I started creating my own personal short-forms and man, let me tell you... my notes started to look like they were coded in Navajo or something. :heh:

The following are some of the more frequently used short-forms that I use, and still use when I take down notes while watching an anime episode for doing my write-ups.

The = ē
Their = ēir
There = ēre
Therefore = ēre4

Before = b4
Beforehand = b4&

With = ŵ (actually the above is suppose to be a straight line, but the Character Map didn't have one)
Within = ŵin
Without = ŵout

With The = ŵē
Before The = b4ē

Etc...
Of course... there was the flip-side to this. It was a NIGHTMARE to share notes. Our notes were basically alien to each other, and it was not uncommon to ask one another on what the heck did we write. You basically had to stick to a few people only when sharing notes, unless you wanted to learn the "different languages" of ALL your classmates. :heh:

Heh.