Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 09 Discussion / Poll

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[Aaron008R]

Ok. Let's start.
Who's betting on Nanoha getting squarely beaten in the past?
I'm not really sure on what to believe.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Ok. Let's start.
Who's betting on Nanoha getting squarely beaten in the past?
I'm not really sure on what to believe.

I'm thinking there's three general possibilities...

1, Pwnage
2, Accident
3, Explosion

[Keroko]

I'm thinking there's three general possibilities...

1, Pwnage
2, Accident
3, Explosion

Pwnage, definetely pwnage. More drama that way.

[Erio]

Pwnage, definetely pwnage. More drama that way.
To add to this, Pwnage by a human mage.

I sure hope.

Not that I like Nanoha being beaten, but...

[Ottocycle]

I don't think so. My money's on surprise attack considering the fact that Vita was most probably a few minutes' flight from her, and an enemy that's able to overwhelm her head on within a few minutes and escape would be quite hard to find, to say the least.

But I'd say aside from the all-important flashback, I'm actually thinking how Tia's situation would be resolved unhappily, looking at the arguing she's still doing after being blasted. I sure hope Hayate steps in...and narrates that horrific incident when someone didn't do her specified job properly.

What if it's someone we know...like Zest?

[ichibaka]

No no no I'm throwing my cookie on it was an accident which Nanoha defended Vita from an attack; now that's not ownage.

[xizro345]

I think that is the least interesting part. I'm more interested in how the situation will develop.

[Liingo]

I just had another look at the manga and my bets on Nanoha taking a blow that was meant for Vita.

Ahaha, i just realised I've just said what ichibaka said...

Still, it's going to be a good episode regardless. Hopefully we'll see a resolution to Tia 's problems due to her inferiority complex this episode.

[Deathkillz]

No no no I'm throwing my cookie on it was an accident which Nanoha defended Vita from an attack; now that's not ownage.
that so predictable that im willing to bet a cookie on it :p its obvious that vita did something baka which cause nanoha's injury...then comes her rage mode and its sayonara for the enemy :uhoh:

[kari-no-sugata]

If some mage/whatever beat Nanoha, then why does Vita look fine? I don't think the situation could have ended like that if it was due to a fair fight.

For the scene to properly tie into the events at the end of ep 8, I think it would have to be partly due to a mistake on Nanoha's part. Something like, not paying full attention while on a battlefield.

Vita seems to blame herself for the events so I'm betting on something like: Vita and Nanoha are on the battlefield together, and maybe after it seems they'd finished all the enemies, they both relaxed. Then a shot came out of the blue towards Vita and Nanoha saw it first and jumped in to shield Vita. Vita is unscathed, but Nanoha is badly injured.


Personally, I'm more curious as to what Nanoha decides to do with Teana and Subaru. Realisticly, I don't think a simple apology from either would be enough - since they haven't learnt their lessons in the past, they aren't trustworthy right now. Basically, they need to learn (and control) fear of death - or at least, fear of Nanoha :D

I'd suggest maybe something like: Playing a "survivor" mock-battle with Signum - ie Teana and Subaru's goal is simply to survive long enough against Signum going at them directly (though probably have to tune down the physical damage). After being "killed" repeatedly by Signum, I think they'll learn...

[johnishida]

For Vita to go "I'll without fail protect Nanoha" mode. Nanoha must have surely defended her from some kind of really powerful attack.

Also, I hope that the entity who did that to Nanoha was another Mage. Why? More Drama if this Mage turns out to be a Relic Weapon from Dr. Jail. After all, there seems to be another Mage working for Jail called Agito.

Either that, or Nanoha simply messed up by doing some reckless fighting.

[johnjefferson3]

i think everyone here agrees that vita was the origanal target, the only question was, is that, 1.was it an enemy that was targeting vita and nanoha decided instead to take the hit herself and thus save vita, or 2.what if vita and nahora together fighting a supoir enemy and vita got mad, lost her cool and hit nanoha by accendient, since vita at first hated nanoha, but with this accendent caused by vita, was so tramatic that vita did a 360 and now completely supports nanoha, either way there are the 2 most consenus theories, which one do you think happen?????

[Erio]

For Vita to go "I'll without fail protect Nanoha" mode. Nanoha must have surely defended her from some kind of really powerful attack.

Also, I hope that the entity who did that to Nanoha was another Mage. Why? More Drama if this Mage turns out to be a Relic Weapon from Dr. Jail. After all, there seems to be another Mage working for Jail called Agito.

Either that, or Nanoha simply messed up by doing some reckless fighting.
Well, I dont think any of us doubt that Nanoha defended Vita and ended up like that. That's why some of us are betting for the opposite. ;)

Either way, it would be really interesting if the culprit was human. Maybe Vita will have someone to go berserk on.

[Aaron008R]

Well, I dont think any of us doubt that Nanoha defended Vita and ended up like that. That's why some of us are betting for the opposite. ;)

Either way, it would be really interesting if the culprit was human. Maybe Vita will have someone to go berserk on.

Ah. I see you've returned. Welcome back, Erio.:D
And about the possibilities, I remembered somebody said that the nature of the assailant was a unknown. So a sneak attack may be distressingly close to the mark. Personally, I'd like the straight defeat scenario better for more drama.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Well, I dont think any of us doubt that Nanoha defended Vita and ended up like that. That's why some of us are betting for the opposite. ;)

Either way, it would be really interesting if the culprit was human. Maybe Vita will have someone to go berserk on.

If it is someone human (or at least a living being). That person might not be alive or free now.

Since Vita's mission to herself is to 'protect' Nanoha, not to seek out the culprit... And none of them had brought up the incident specifically again, so it could be assumed that the matter is closed.

EDIT:

Brb in 5 hours to catch the screenshots :D

[Nightengale]

Well, there's a number of variations we can go about depending on the context of the situation, but at the outset of things, I sincerely wish, that this event was the result of a uber-class pwnage. I need mental confirmation and ease that there are someone out there who can layeth the smackdown on the aces.

[Erio]

Ah. I see you've returned. Welcome back, Erio.:D
And about the possibilities, I remembered somebody said that the nature of the assailant was a unknown. So a sneak attack may be distressingly close to the mark. Personally, I'd like the straight defeat scenario better for more drama.
Thanks :D But I'll only have access to internet for a few days. I did manage to watch the latest episodes, though.

If it is someone human (or at least a living being). That person might not be alive or free now.

Since Vita's mission to herself is to 'protect' Nanoha, not to seek out the culprit... And none of them had brought up the incident specifically again, so it could be assumed that the matter is closed.

EDIT:

Brb in 5 hours to catch the screenshots :D
Aww, come on now, Chaos-chan. :p Dont close cases so soon!

I agree with what Aaron008R said: The attacker was an unknown. Probably when Vita sees the culprit again, as Vita was most likely the only one who at least had a glance at the attacker, she will go nuts.

I can just add that if Vita doesnt want revenge on anything, then the incident was just a reckless mistake from both Nanoha and Vita.

I still sand by my hope, though. There has to be some more drama to this. ;)

[Kha]

No no no I'm throwing my cookie on it was an accident which Nanoha defended Vita from an attack; now that's not ownage.Count me in.

Well, I dont think any of us doubt that Nanoha defended Vita and ended up like that. That's why some of us are betting for the opposite. ;)

Either way, it would be really interesting if the culprit was human. Maybe Vita will have someone to go berserk on.

Hello, Erio, welcome back. We missed you...

Oh look it's Agent Smith! ^^;

Another possibility is that a battleship fired upon the area Nanoha was in as the Captain deemed it a "necessary sacrifice" to prevent the enemy from overruning their position. That's a cannon big enough to pwn Nanoha when caught off-guard.

[Erio]

Hello, Erio, welcome back. We missed you...

Oh look it's Agent Smith! ^^;

Another possibility is that a battleship fired upon the area Nanoha was in as the Captain deemed it a "necessary sacrifice" to prevent the enemy from overruning their position. That's a cannon big enough to pwn Nanoha when caught off-guard.
Hey, thanks Kha-chan. :p I'll stop the -chan now, promise.

lol If your possibility is even a bit accurate, I dont think our Aces would still be with the TSAB.

Actually, I dont think the TSAB would even exist by now! :heh:

[Darco_emp]

Another possibility is that a battleship fired upon the area Nanoha was in as the Captain deemed it a "necessary sacrifice" to prevent the enemy from overruning their position. That's a cannon big enough to pwn Nanoha when caught off-guard.

With the level of magical powers that Nanoha posses at the time, It is hard to think any direct attack wither magical or physical will be able to break through so easily and to to so much damage to her, unless the enermy has an insane amount of offensive powers and that Nanoha and Vita are underestimating the enermy too...

That leaves surpise attack or caught in friendly fire... With this said I think a ambush is more likely out the 3 situation above... something with a long ranged attack with high offensive power behind it, much like Nanoha herself

Erio I'll make a note to call him by Kha chan now :heh:

[johnishida]

Indeed, a surprise attack must have been the cause. After all, Nanoha did say she messed up.

[RandomGuy]

Okay, so while I still haven't seen the episode, I want to venture a guess and say that the culprit was none other than Vita, herself.

You saw the way she tore into Teana after she nearly hit Subaru with her own shot -- who's to say that Nanoha's injury wasn't also the result of a friendly-fire incident?

[Kha]

Hey, thanks Kha-chan. :p I'll stop the -chan now, promise.

lol If your possibility is even a bit accurate, I dont think our Aces would still be with the TSAB.

Actually, I dont think the TSAB would even exist by now! :heh:Well hmm the girls are more forgiving than we give them credit for? Like rending said battleship to pieces and sealing its Captain in an Eternal Coffin being enough to satiate their vengeance? But then, I remember Hayate was Tohsaka Rin. :heh:

With the level of magical powers that Nanoha posses at the time, It is hard to think any direct attack wither magical or physical will be able to break through so easily and to to so much damage to her, unless the enermy has an insane amount of offensive powers and that Nanoha and Vita are underestimating the enermy too...

That leaves surpise attack or caught in friendly fire... With this said I think a ambush is more likely out the 3 situation above... something with a long ranged attack with high offensive power behind it, much like Nanoha herself

Erio I'll make a note to call him by Kha chan now :heh:

Yes I agree about the friendly fire. Very possible, after Tea's incident.

Kha: Young Page, Emperor. If the both of you look in the OC thread, you will find that the Aces do call me Kha-chan, so I'm used to it. :heh:

[johnishida]

Okay, so while I still haven't seen the episode, I want to venture a guess and say that the culprit was none other than Vita, herself.

You saw the way she tore into Teana after she nearly hit Subaru with her own shot -- who's to say that Nanoha's injury wasn't also the result of a friendly-fire incident?

That is an interesting theory you got there but, I believe that is unlikely to happen... Nanoha's injuries seem to be from a very powerful magic attack rather than a physical attack. Remember that Vita's Graf Eisen in a melee weapon.

[Darco_emp]

Okay, so while I still haven't seen the episode, I want to venture a guess and say that the culprit was none other than Vita, herself.

You saw the way she tore into Teana after she nearly hit Subaru with her own shot -- who's to say that Nanoha's injury wasn't also the result of a friendly-fire incident?

Friendly fire is high on my list too but when I considered the friendly fire option, there is one main thing I can't get around and that is attack power, while Vita does high strong attack power it is shown in A's that it is hard for her to break through Nanoha's barriers, espeacially now from a misfire.

It is true that Vita's attack may hit a bind spot and Nanoha can not block it, but for some reason Vita's action against the drone in chapter 2 of Phase A's to StrikerS seems to point the curpit to someone/thing else.....

Can't wait to find out what happens myself :)



Kha: Young Page, Emperor. If the both of you look in the OC thread, you will find that the Aces do call me Kha-chan, so I'm used to it. :heh:

One more reason to shy away from it :p

[Kha]

Friendly fire is high on my list too but when I considered the friendly fire option, there is one main thing I can't get around and that is attack power, while Vita does high strong attack power it is shown in A's that it is hard for her to break through Nanoha's barriers, espeacially now from a misfire.

It is true that Vita's attack may hit a bind spot and Nanoha can not block it, but for some reason Vita's action against the drone in chapter 2 of Phase A's to StrikerS seems to point the curpit to someone/thing else.....

Can't wait to find out what happens myself :)How about that battleship gun? The reasons can vary, and she might have gotten caught in the shockwave of one because a Captain panicked, but ultimately, its the biggest blue-on-blue I can think of.

[Darco_emp]

How about that battleship gun? The reasons can vary, and she might have gotten caught in the shockwave of one because a Captain panicked, but ultimately, its the biggest blue-on-blue I can think of.

Since Vita is relatively unharmed, a large area shockwave is unlikely. Besides if an average ship's cannon is something with around or just above the the level of a SS mage's Starlight breaker I should think Nanoha should be able to tank it, as long as its not pointblank

anyway night to all catch you all in some hours time

[Erio]

I think Vita attacking Nanoha is totally out of the question here. Even though she has a strong rivalry with Nanoha, she wouldnt go as far as to almost kill her. And there are a bunch of reasons for this: Nanoha is Hayate's friend; Nanoha saved Hayate; Vita is still in probation by the TSAB and she would have been suspended or even sent to prison for attacking Nanoha; all in all the only reason she would have to beat Nanoha up is that Nanoha pats her on the head; etc.

The key here is Nanoha saying, "Are you OK, Vita-chan?"

Definitely not Vita.

[raidou]

The way Vita said that it was supposed to be regular mission made it seems that they were ambushed or the opponent was more dangerous that they thought

She said something along the line "It was supposed to be regular mission, that thing was also unconfirmed at the time" "i should have noticed before anyone else"

So it is less likely that it was friendly fire or she wont say that.

[Aaron008R]

It's almost here anyway, so I guess we'll know soon enough. And hopefully we also get to resolve Teana's little problem along the way.

Oh, how much easier it would be if Teana would just:
"I'm sorry. ;__;"

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6647/1180114236948cv1.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1180114236948cv1.jpg)


:heh:

[johnishida]

It's almost here anyway, so I guess we'll know soon enough. And hopefully we also get to resolve Teana's little problem along the way.

Oh, how much easier it would be if Teana would just:


:heh:


I would forgive here in the spot...

[raidou]

The real teana doesn't look as cute as that when she cried :p


Edit:the show should be finished airing about now i think

[Aaron008R]

I'm also hoping we would get to see her go dere-dere soon.:heh:
The emo-tsun-tsun act is starting to get out of hand.

[LoweGear]

Only waiting for the first pics out of 2chan now. I'll withhold any speculation on Nanoha's injury until that happens. :heh:

[raidou]

I'm also hoping we would get to see her go dere-dere soon.:heh:
The emo-tsun-tsun act is starting to get out of hand.

The question is who she would go dere dere on ?:D Chrono?Vice?Yuuno?Zafira?Subaru? lol :heh:

[herbert]

I bet Nanoha was beaten by some less powerful enemy, whom she used to pawn easily, due her health problem.

Friendly fire is impossible. Vita is a knight, isn't she? As a knight she wouldn't attack from back even if you hold the opinion she still hated Nanoha, which I don't agree. If it is unintentional, Vita would blame herself more than we have seen.

As for Nanoha took the hit for protecting Vita, I feel sort of pointless. There is no evidence hinting this. If Nanoha is too strong to be defeated in battlefield, so is Vita weak enough to be beaten? Why anyone think Vita an easier target than Nanoha? IMO, by accident or by sneaky attack, everyone who agree the one can take Vita down in battlefield should recognize the person also can own Nanoha.

[Aaron008R]

The question is who she would go dere dere on ?:D Chrono?Vice?Yuuno?Zafira?Subaru? lol :heh:

Preferably Chrono.:heh: Though I'd also welcome an out of the blue TeanaXAcous scena-
:dots:

Wait.:heh: Now where did that idea come from?:uhoh:

[johnishida]

I bet Nanoha was beaten by some less powerful enemy, whom she used to pawn easily, due her health problem.

Friendly fire is impossible. Vita is a knight, isn't she? As a knight she would attack from back, even if you hold the opinion she still hated Nanoha, which I don't agree. If it is unintentional, Vita would blame herself more than we have seen.

As for Nanoha took the hit for protecting Vita, I feel sort of pointless. There is no evidence hinting this. If Nanoha is too strong to be defeated in battlefield, so is Vita weak enough to be beaten? Why anyone think Vita an easier target than Nanoha? IMO, by accident or by sneaky attack, everyone who agree the one can take Vita down in battlefield should recognize the person also can own Nanoha.

As far as I know her health problem, if there is, was cause by THIS incident.

Is hinted that Vita might had been the initial target from a surprise attack from which Nanoha defended her cause Nanoha says: Are you all right, Vita? though, it's just a hint there are plenty of situations where Nanoha could have said the same thing.

[Aaron008R]

As far as I know her health problem, if there is, was cause by THIS incident.

Is hinted that Vita might had been the initial target from a surprise attack from which Nanoha defended her cause Nanoha says: Are you all right, Vita? though, it's just a hint there are plenty of situations where Nanoha could have said the same thing.

Yeah, and the fact that Nanoha apologized and said that she messed up only makes it all the more confusing.

[FlameSparkZ]

lol, ep 9 isn't out yet, and you're already discussing it?

Talk about fast...

I'm thinking there's three general possibilities...

1, Pwnage
2, Accident
3, Explosion

I say it's a bit of all of the above, adding a bit of "hidden booby-trap" and "caught by surprise".

But, yeah, I'm itching to find out what happened back then.

[Keroko]

lol, ep 9 isn't out yet, and you're already discussing it?

Talk about fast...

Order of busines here on animesuki.

Yeah, and the fact that Nanoha apologized and said that she messed up only makes it all the more confusing.

Or Nanoha made a mistake in underestimating the enemy, putting Vita in danger as well as herself.

I'm not backing away from my point yet, 'saving blow' though expectable, is overdone. Nanoha getting beaten while Vita can't do anything about it is more dramatic.

[johnishida]

No matter what, I just wanna see WHO or WHAT did that to Nanoha.

[herbert]

Is hinted that Vita might had been the initial target from a surprise attack from which Nanoha defended her cause Nanoha says: Are you all right, Vita? though, it's just a hint there are plenty of situations where Nanoha could have said the same thing.
OK, this makes more sense. But I still keep my opinion that not Nanoha protect Vita.

My guess on why Nanoha said this. They faced multiple enemy so they fight back to back. By being taken down, Nanoha failed her duty and that might endanger Vita. This is why Nanoha apologized IMO.

As far as I know her health problem, if there is, was cause by THIS incident.

With the nickname White Devil, Nanoha is still a human being, so she could be sick. The health problem is not necessary to be some seriously permanent disease, it may just a fever or cold or some other minor problem ppl may encounter everyday.

I think Nanoha was just overconfident. She knew she was somehow unwell but chose pretend normal. This caused undesearable outcome.

[Serenity85]

This is probably one of the most anticipated eps since the semi disapointment (for some anyway, not me^_^) of ep 7, course had we known what was going to hap in 8 we'd have been excited for that ep to^^.

What I'm more interested in knowing (well finding out what the incident was about is cool) is what will tea do? Will she stay, will she leave? Will she still be emo or will she just be pissed at Nanoha? And what about poor Subaru?

So much to look forward to^^

[Thisguy]

Yay for me, I got to watch it REALTIME for today :D
Although with one-shot realtime show, I can't remember everything... I'm writing what I remember so far...
- Teana wakes up in Shamal's medical room, pants-less :heh:
Just as many people guessed, Nanoha used Magic-Damage setting and her's was so well-skilled that left no harm to Teana.

- Enemy alert when they're mentally sensitive... old but it still makes drama nonetheless :heh:

- Spagetti releases drones for "performance test" and expect them to be shot down, and it seems that these Type-2 were much more fast and agile compared to these enountered in Ep5.

- Hayate wonders whether they should one-shot these bug with big-gun, but Aces decides that they should stick with their conventional method, so that Spagetti won't get much more info from them.

- As rookies can't fly, they're ordered to stay back in RF6 base and Nanoha ordered Teana to stay out of this mission...

- Teana got PWNED once again, this time by Signum :twitch:
Surely, however, she deserves that though... asking stupidly clear question when they're on duty, and just about to launch for scrumble situation.
T: "WHY? Is it because you do not need someone that does not follow the order!?"
N: "You already know the answer by saying that yourself."

- Finally the revealation of the... "incident".
It's explained that repeated use of high-power-output artillery-magics (especially SLB) which is very stressful to her body, then shortly after she dared to use then-unstable cartridge system and Excelion Mode, which boosts ability of user beyond one's body can withstand...
All these stress were building up on her body, and after 2 years when she was suprise-attacked by "Unknown" when she was on her way back from mission, that stress caused her reaction delayed for a fraction of time... and that costed her that injury.
(In other words, we still don't know what that "Unknown" was, yet.)

It was so severe that she was even told "she may not be able to stand and walk again, let alone flying".
She eventually recovered, but she does not want other to go through such a mess... unfortunately though, her intention did not reach Teana.

- Signum "Surely, there're battles that you must pull out more than you can do, but the previous mission was it?"
Of course not, nor the mock-battle in question.

- Cross Mirage's "Mode 2" is shown to be a kind of round-dagger...
Nanoha, too, knew that Teana will need it some day... since she wants to become Enforcer and Enforcer is basically stand-alone in duty.
What Teana failed is that she was still far from mastering her "most basic" fighting style, yet she recklessly went for even more trick.
Once she achieved certain success in her sharpshooting, Nanoha wouldn't have denied her learning CQC too...

Nanoha also reminded Teana that when used correctly, Cross Fire can be really effective... (She used it against Tia in Ep8)
That implys that there're much more room for her to make improvement in her "basic skill".

- Literally, exactly what Riker posted did occur... to Nanoha.
That "I'm sorry, I'm sorry..." made me certain that Nanoha added one more girl to her harem (j/k :heh: )Now, to Ep10 preview.- Just as some people already know, it's a "Holyday" episode.

- OMG, Teana and Subaru goes motorbike touring, tandem style!!1
And it's Teana that is driving bike... just wow.

- Did I say Caro is cute? :rolleyes:

Edit:
Oh yes, I've just remembered one more...- I think I heard Scaglietty clearly says Lutecia is his creation...

I'll wait until raw's reaching nicovideo, then I'll confirm it.

Edit 2:
Added some more inside main spoiler-tag

[xizro345]

If this quick synopsis is correct, I can really say Nanoha's motivations for doing what she did in ep. 8 are sort of lame.

[herbert]

- Finally the revealation of the... "incident".
It's explained that repeated use of high-power-output artillery-magics (especially SLB) which is very stressful to her body, then shortly after she dared to use then-unstable cartridge system and Excelion Mode, which boosts ability of user beyond one's body can withstand...
All these stress were building up on her body, and after 2 years when she was suprise-attacked by "Unknown" when she was on her way back from mission, that stress caused her reaction delayed for a fraction of time... and that costed her that injury.

It was so severe that she even told that "she may not be able to stand and walk again, let alone flying".
She eventually recovered, but she does not want other to go through such a mess... unfortunately though, her intention did not reach Teana.


I was kind of right on guessing. Only I didn't think of this kind of health problem.


Thanks for spoiler.

[Nightengale]

So, Nanoha's suffered from the Hyunkel Grand Cross effect? Typical.

[Aaron008R]

So it was recklessness huh? And the statements of not being able to stand/walk/fly again were quite unnerving. In any case, they've finally resolved both the mystery of the paranoia over Nanoha (partially at least) and Teana's problem. Quite good results, I must say.

[xizro345]

I disagree. I personally think they should have gone a different route instead of "justifying the acts".

[LoweGear]

... overload... Which would really teach Nanoha to tone down on using high-power buster spells, and not to mention the old adage never to assume you're safe on the return trip...

I am intrigued by the statement that they don't want to go out all out to hide their trump cards, meaning at least they have some idea that Scaglietti IS watching...

[Serenity85]

Typical maybe but it does make sense for everything. First Nanoha got careless and over did it and she nearly paid for it greatly. Up to this point S1 --> S2 she was nearly invincabley this incident was a big slap in the face to say "your still human" Tea was reckless (maybe not in the same way as Nanoha) but she almost cost her best friends health/live. Same deal in the mock battle. She was going way to hard and using skills she hadn't mastered yet and she could have gotten really hurt if it was for real and not a mock fight.

Everything be it slightly different, in the end the results could have been the same, so Nanoha was in the right for the punishment be it harsh or not.

[xizro345]

That makes no sense. The character reactions, according to the synopsis are totally against common sense. Almost killing one of her subordinates isn't going to "help her understand". Not to mention that I was hoping (and I still do) for a sort of guilt from Nanoha for going so hard to "explain that".

[LoweGear]

That makes no sense. The character reactions, according to the synopsis are totally against common sense. Almost killing one of her subordinates isn't going to "help her understand". Not to mention that I was hoping (and I still do) for a sort of guilt from Nanoha for going so hard to "explain that".

Of course, she didn't kill Teana, since it was a controlled attack, despite how powerful (and painful) it looked.

[xizro345]

It is never explained onscreen, but anyway the reaction was overboard. I was honestly hoping for a more serious series of consequences.

[LoweGear]

It is never explained onscreen, but anyway the reaction was overboard.

If you look at thisguy's edit on his synopsis... Nanoha's attack was so precise that it left no permanent on Teana. This Nanoha never went "overboard".

[xizro345]

This make things even worse, I'd call this a plot device, but I won't comment further.

[LoweGear]

This make things even worse, I'd call this a plot device, but I won't comment further.

If Nanoha can Starlight Breaker Fate without even a scratch on the target whe she was 9, I don't see why she'd have that much difficulty doing the same with a lesser attack 10 years later. It is established that magical damage is quite different from physical damage.

[Thisguy]

This make things even worse, I'd call this a plot device, but I won't comment further.What plot device?
Magic-damage/Physical-damage setting has been around since previous series, and you call it plot device NOW?

It's almost 3 a.m here so I'll leave it to you guys to think about it...
Anyway, it's reminded that the synopsis is based on my memory from one-shot airing so there MUST BE more than what I posted in the episode, and my memory is always with bunch of error.

At least watch the show, RAW if necessary.
Until then, you never even have a general idea.

[Deathkillz]

Yay for me, I got to watch it REALTIME for today :D
Although with one-shot realtime show, I can't remember everything... I'm writing what I remember so far...
- Teana got PWNED once again, this time by Signum :twitch:
Surely, however, she deserves that though... asking stupidly clear question when they're on duty, and just about to launch for scrumble situation.
T: "WHY? Is it because you do not need someone that does not follow the order!?"
N: "You already know the answer by saying that yourself."

- Finally the revealation of the... "incident".
It's explained that repeated use of high-power-output artillery-magics (especially SLB) which is very stressful to her body, then shortly after she dared to use then-unstable cartridge system and Excelion Mode, which boosts ability of user beyond one's body can withstand...
All these stress were building up on her body, and after 2 years when she was suprise-attacked by "Unknown" when she was on her way back from mission, that stress caused her reaction delayed for a fraction of time... and that costed her that injury.
(In other words, we still don't know what that "Unknown" was, yet.)


haha tea deserved that! its clear now who is in the wrong and who is in the right...nanoha was being caring to tea in the fact that those shots didnt even do any heavy damage...and from the discription of the past she has every right to be logical about tea trying to push herself to the point of no return...nanoha experienced it herself first hand so i will stick by her views :)

dam so it want vita's fault :rolleyes:

and guys...spoiler tags?

[xizro345]

What plot device?
Magic-damage/Physical-damage setting has been around since previous series, and you call it plot device NOW?


I didn't like it back then, and I don't like it now, despite my overall enjoyment of the series. Nevertheless, I'll wait and see.

[Kha]

The truth is revealed! No screens this time. o_0?!

Anyway, for those of us who's been playing around with the incident idea, looks like it all got shot. Especially my "Star One Down" idea, which couldn't have been further from the truth.

[Klashikari]

well... let's summary the "mock" battle, with thisguy's spoiler in mind :

1) So, Teana received an attack which didn't deal any significant physical damage. this is not a plot device, but rather good news : i was afraid it was out of character. (it perfectly make sense with nanoha)

2) the remaining problem i see with the second attack then : what was the point of this stunt?
That must be a message for Subaru, but what was the point? "you can be owned if you do things reckless". true, but i was thinking back there : the mock battle isn't a real fight, thus how can we consider that the moves they were performing would be used in real battle? after all, everything was solely focused on the main objective : "deal a clean hit to instructor takamichi"
No, i'm not saying Subaru and teana were right, they were completely going overboard. however, considering the situation, a plain cancel of the mock battle would be more effective and pertinent.

3) So nanoha don't want Teana going panzer, using everything she got, in such way that her body won't withstand it after a while.
i will be blunt : wasn't it a bit easier to plainly say it instead of letting her rookies going nutso on the objective?
(true that Nanoha warned Teana about teamplay. but it would have much more impact if she explain the reasons, and also the consequences. talking about experience with "noobies" is also a effective way, instead of the usual "trial-error-punishment")
Even with that information, i fail to get that message back in episode 8.
Everyone was expecting : you guys are too reckless, while having only a mock battle objective. thus in real battle, you had too much flaws and you got terminated.
But hell no, it was just : improves your sharpshooter skills first, then you can level up!"

frankly, both parties were utterly wrong on that silly mock battle...

[Thisguy]

Oh yes, one more...At the end of ep, Fate explained what "StrikerS" on title means.

According to Fate, there are 2 honorific title for outstanding soldier;
These who fights with beautiful skill and power are called with honorific title of "Ace".
These who fights with confidence and has much of experience that people around him/her can rely on the person and believe itheir victory, are called "Striker".

Nanoha wants all of rookies to be sturdy and experienced "Strikers", and her trainings are for that goal.

[LoweGear]

Oh yes, one more...At the end of ep, Fate explained what "StrikerS" on title means.

According to Fate, there are 2 honorific title for outstanding soldier;
These who fights with beautiful skill and power are called with honorific title of "Ace".
These who fights with confidence and has much of experience that people around him/her can rely on the person and believe itheir victory, are called "Striker".

Nanoha wants all of rookies to be sturdy and experienced "Strikers", and her trainings are for that goal.

Now that's an unusual tidbit of good news... in the back of my mind since the first ep I was wondering what "StrikerS" meant.

*notes*

[Aaron008R]

Oh yes, one more...At the end of ep, Fate explained what "StrikerS" on title means.

According to Fate, there are 2 honorific title for outstanding soldier;
These who fights with beautiful skill and power are called with honorific title of "Ace".
These who fights with confidence and has much of experience that people around him/her can rely on the person and believe itheir victory, are called "Striker".

Nanoha wants all of rookies to be sturdy and experienced "Strikers", and her trainings are for that goal.

Now that makes sense. So A's was for the Aces and StrikerS is for the Strikers

Seems like the caps are not here yet...

[Kha]

Oh yes, one more...At the end of ep, Fate explained what "StrikerS" on title means.

According to Fate, there are 2 honorific title for outstanding soldier;
These who fights with beautiful skill and power are called with honorific title of "Ace".
These who fights with confidence and has much of experience that people around him/her can rely on the person and believe itheir victory, are called "Striker".

Nanoha wants all of rookies to be sturdy and experienced "Strikers", and her trainings are for that goal.So if you can't be an Ace, you can be a Striker? For it does seem to hint at a Talent VS Training idea here.

Nonetheless, this is definitely noteworthy. I certainly prefer spamming StrikerS than Aces in the OC thread. :D

[Deathkillz]

just watched the first half ~
boy signum didnt just scold tea...she completely whacked her across the face :twitch: now that must have hurt...
nanoha vita and fate chan the leaves to go destroy the drones and subaru tries to stand up for tea by telling signum as it is...but she knows nothing and the story of about the bloody past is about to start...

side note...nekkid tea :naughty: now what inspection was shamal doing again? :rolleyes:
*continues watching*

[Aaron008R]

So if you can't be an Ace, you can be a Striker? For it does seem to hint at a Talent VS Training idea here.

Nonetheless, this is definitely noteworthy. I certainly prefer spamming StrikerS than Aces in the OC thread. :D


But your already the fourth Ace, Kha-san.:p
But what the heck, Striker eh? The OC thread is gonna be even more fun now.
Seems like my OC would fit the bill nicely.

I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.
Hope the story gets into the thick of it soon.

[johnishida]

The truth is revealed! No screens this time. o_0?!

Anyway, for those of us who's been playing around with the incident idea, looks like it all got shot. Especially my "Star One Down" idea, which couldn't have been further from the truth.

At least the sneak attack part was right xDDDDDDDDD

[raidou]

Hey the Opening changed again , this time the magic circle surrounding the relic became blue in color (it was yellow)..i wonder whether this has any meaning

Nicovideo being slow , cant even load part b ...gonna take a while to ss :(

[Aaron008R]

Hey the Opening changed again , this time the magic circle surrounding the relic became blue in color (it was yellow)..i wonder whether this has any meaning

Nicovideo being slow , cant even load part b ...gonna take a while to ss :(

Again? When and what was the first?:confused:

[Kha]

But your already the fourth Ace, Kha-san.:p
But what the heck, Striker eh? The OC thread is gonna be even more fun now.
Seems like my OC would fit the bill nicely.

I'm liking what I'm seeing so far.
Hope the story gets into the thick of it soon.Let's keep things as off-topic as long as possible before the serious debate kicks in and me get left behind because I have to study for test! :uhoh:Well for the title Ace, there's Kha and Sophia, while Artei is on his way to gaining Striker rank, while Kaempfer is a full Striker with his vast experience gained from his age despite being young for a dragon. :p Little Allison is... no where near anywhere. Now you see why her entire Trinity treats her like a non-combatant outside of Knight training. :heh:

But yeah now I've an ideal to work males towards. :DNotice how the definition for Ace is almost exclusively female. Does it really hint that most magical power comes from the mother? Or are female mages generally more powerful than male mages?

[raidou]

Again? When and what was the first?:confused:

Ep8 opening was different already, Estavali listed a few changes in Ep 8thread a few days ago.It is only some minor changes though.
E.g. StrikerS logo flashing, Hayate's hand on the table,number of drones near the end.

[Aaron008R]

Let's keep things as off-topic as long as possible before the serious debate kicks in and me get left behind because I have to study for test! :uhoh:Well for the title Ace, there's Kha and Sophia, while Artei is on his way to gaining Striker rank, while Kaempfer is a full Striker with his vast experience gained from his age despite being young for a dragon. :p Little Allison is... no where near anywhere. Now you see why her entire Trinity treats her like a non-combatant outside of Knight training. :heh:

But yeah now I've an ideal to work males towards. :D

Notice how the definition for Ace is almost exclusively female. Does it really hint that most magical power comes from the mother? Or are female mages generally more powerful than male mages?

Well, I guess it's a similarity with FSN mechanics. And good luck on the exams.:D
Mine just finished a week ago, though it was for voluntary summer class.
I hope they put even just a silhouette of the Unknown at least.

Thanks for the explanation, raidou.:)

[Klashikari]

Notice how the definition for Ace is almost exclusively female. Does it really hint that most magical power comes from the mother? Or are female mages generally more powerful than male mages?
(didn't really think it must be in spoilers so...)

well... i think you are thinking a bit too much :heh:
think about the "discrimination" of the henshin sequences XD

[Fuyu no Sora]

just watched the first half ~
boy signum didnt just scold tea...she completely whacked her across the face :twitch: now that must have hurt...
nanoha vita and fate chan the leaves to go destroy the drones and subaru tries to stand up for tea by telling signum as it is...but she knows nothing and the story of about the bloody past is about to start...

side note...nekkid tea :naughty: now what inspection was shamal doing again? :rolleyes:
*continues watching*

Ok. Now I simply LOVE Signum. GO SIGNUM!!

Sorry, but I really feel that if Teana is still acting like an idiot, she should be punished accordingly. I'm also starting to take a personal disliking for that attitude of hers, which made her endanger her partner in epi.7. I'm not sure it's safe to keep her in the team.

[Keroko]

Oh yes, one more...At the end of ep, Fate explained what "StrikerS" on title means.

According to Fate, there are 2 honorific title for outstanding soldier;
These who fights with beautiful skill and power are called with honorific title of "Ace".
These who fights with confidence and has much of experience that people around him/her can rely on the person and believe itheir victory, are called "Striker".

Nanoha wants all of rookies to be sturdy and experienced "Strikers", and her trainings are for that goal.

Now I am really reminded of Ace combat. It may be the way you worded it, but this is just like the three types of pilots.

"Those who seek strength
Those who live for pride
And those who can read the tide of battle."

So if you can't be an Ace, you can be a Striker? For it does seem to hint at a Talent VS Training idea here.

Nonetheless, this is definitely noteworthy. I certainly prefer spamming StrikerS than Aces in the OC thread. :D

I don't, but then again, I don't spam characters either. In fact, I only have one ace. :heh:

[Aaron008R]

Ok. Now I simply LOVE Signum. GO SIGNUM!!

Sorry, but I really feel that if Teana is still acting like an idiot, she should be punished accordingly. I'm also starting to take a personal disliking for that attitude of hers, which made her endanger her partner in epi.7. I'm not sure it's safe to keep her in the team.

Nah, don't worry. It was said earlier that she goes, "I'm sorry!" in the end.:heh:

[Kha]

(didn't really think it must be in spoilers so...)

well... i think you are thinking a bit too much :heh:
think about the "discrimination" of the henshin sequences XD

Um... You're meaning that Aces get to go butt nekkid? Or rather, when Aces go but nekkid they dance well? :naughty:

Anyway going by those definitions, it seems only Caro and Lutecia are destined to be Aces, while the rest, even Erio, is for Strikers, thus reinforcing the moral of the Nanohaverse:

BEWARE THE LOLI:D

[Fuyu no Sora]

Nah, don't worry. It was said earlier that she goes, "I'm sorry!" in the end.:heh:

Oh okay then. Apologies, my mind is still a bit "Teana went nuts" because of episode 8. Interesting, we still don't know what that damn 'Unknown' is. Dang those producers that don't give up all the info. But, like I said before, what kind of enemy can take Nanoha down?

[raidou]

How the hell TSAB has a video of Nanoha/Fate past everything including her 1st meeting with Yuuno and Fate torture by her mom ^.^ doesn't really make sense lol

[Aaron008R]

Oh okay then. Apologies, my mind is still a bit "Teana went nuts" because of episode 8. Interesting, we still don't know what that damn 'Unknown' is. Dang those producers that don't give up all the info. But, like I said before, what kind of enemy can take Nanoha down?

No need to apologize, Mademoiselle.:)
But it really is a little aggravating that they wouldn't even mention the nature of the Unknown. Nanoha should have at least seen that.

[Fuyu no Sora]

No need to apologize, Mademoiselle.:)
But it really is a little aggravating that they wouldn't even mention the nature of the Unknown. Nanoha should have at least seen that.

I feel better ^^.

'Unknown'....Dang!I can't think of anything that would leave Nanoha like that. I don't think it's your average mage/knight. It can't be the drones, then WHAT is IT?!?

[Nightengale]

The hell!? How did they record some of those things about Nanoha's past!? Did they mind-rip images out of Yuuno and Nanoha' brain or something!?

And ferret Yuuno... got a shot in the video lol whereas Chrono didn't....

The Mode 2 Gunblade looks eiriely like what I'm half-way designing for the OC thread...

[Flar]

How the hell TSAB has a video of Nanoha/Fate past everything including her 1st meeting with Yuuno and Fate torture by her mom ^.^ doesn't really make sense lolThey took them from Bardiche and Raging Heart's logs. They're not intelligent devices for nothing :p

[Kha]

How the hell TSAB has a video of Nanoha/Fate past everything including her 1st meeting with Yuuno and Fate torture by her mom ^.^ doesn't really make sense lolWormhole cameras that can see any point of space, as long as the signal is not jammed like when the WK put up the "Gap" shield when they first assaulted Nanoha.

Big Brother is watching you! No shower is safe from the prying eyes of the Dirty Old Geezers sitting that the top of TSAB's pecking order!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

The Mode 2 Gunblade looks eiriely like what I designed for the OC thread...Join the club. Strada was basically a clone of my Tausend Kreuz. Seven Arcs has been stealing fan ideas I tell ya! :D

[Mirakuru]

After lurking around here for a while, I FINALLY decided to join. Yay~ And so far I only watched the first half of episode nine..

Was I the only one who noticed minor OP changes? Or, at least I think they were.. in the beginning and in the end, the style was slightly different. Nothing big, so I may be wrong here, but.. =P

Gosh, Teana sure is getting beat up a lot lately. xD; Though it's nice to see that Nanoha wasn't going overboard because Tea didn't have any permanent damage. And when Nanoha was telling Tea not to go on the mission, she stopped Vita from trying to give Tea a piece of her mind. But it didn't really matter, because Signum did. :heh:

And now onto part 2~ and the "mystery" will be revealed, as well. Oh, and a hunt for an avatar and a signature begins, lol.

[Deathkillz]

part 2 ~
flashback galore! the whole group is taken in and shown the story of the past and even clips from first and second season...thats where our newbies find out about nanoha's and fate's past rivalry ~ precia's case and the tone of the night sky case...and the intro to how the cartridge system came about...naturally ofc the are stunned at how powerful nanoha was at the time...(all this narrated by signum and shamal)

then about nanoha being attacked...she was thought to be taken out of action at that time but not wanting to be a hindrance (just like what tea said) nanoha underwent rehabilitation...and no matter how painful it was she continues...

signum the commented that this was no fault of her own but what tea did could have caused trouble for subaru...trouble which could have been avoided first thing...

and i think the truth finally hits home as everything gets rather emotional...(though the nanoha pic that flashed on sceen made it seem like nanoha is dead XD)

the group finishes off the drones and return home where nanoha finds out that he past has been revealed (gommen XD)

nanoha goes to find tea who is moping around near the sea...meanwhile the others are trying to eavesdropping :heh: nanoha tells tea that they all have their own special traints so theres no need to feel down...

nanoha releases cross mirage's lock and shows tea that her weapon still has a lot more to offer...and WTF is up with that dagger form :twitch: well tea breaks down crying and hugs nanoha...all the while saying ~

"im sorry im sorry!" (inserts riker's pic)

the next day fate chan tells them why they are called strikerS (mentioned a few posts earlier :))

well its a happy end all around as training starts again!

[Fuyu no Sora]

After lurking around here for a while, I FINALLY decided to join. Yay~ And so far I only watched the first half of episode nine..

Was I the only one who noticed minor OP changes? Or, at least I think they were.. in the beginning and in the end, the style was slightly different. Nothing big, so I may be wrong here, but.. =P

Gosh, Teana sure is getting beat up a lot lately. xD; Though it's nice to see that Nanoha wasn't going overboard because Tea didn't have any permanent damage. And when Nanoha was telling Tea not to go on the mission, she stopped Vita from trying to give Tea a piece of her mind. But it didn't really matter, because Signum did. :heh:

And now onto part 2~ and the "mystery" will be revealed, as well. Oh, and a hunt for an avatar and a signature begins, lol.

Welcome ^^.

And umm... I'm under the impression this things were already posted? Perhaps? :heh: :heh:

EDIT: Oh geez! But at least we also get to see what the rookies saw, so I won't complain XD!

[Aaron008R]

They took them from Bardiche and Raging Heart's logs. They're not intelligent devices for nothing :p

Now that makes sense. Thanks.:D

Wormhole cameras that can see any point of space, as long as the signal is not jammed like when the WK put up the "Gap" shield when they first assaulted Nanoha.

Big Brother is watching you! No shower is safe from the prying eyes of the Dirty Old Geezers sitting that the top of TSAB's pecking order!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek:

The house of Big Brother can't keep the Aces in just like that.:heh:

part 2 ~
flashback galore! the whole group is taken in and shown the story of the past and even clips from first and second season...thats where our newbies find out about nanoha's and fate's past rivalry ~ precia's case and the tone of the night sky case...and the intro to how the cartridge system came about...naturally ofc the are stunned at how powerful nanoha was at the time...(all this narrated by signum and shamal)

then about nanoha being attacked...she was thought to be taken out of action at that time but not wanting to be a hindrance (just like what tea said) nanoha underwent rehabilitation...and no matter how painful it was she continues...

signum the commented that this was no fault of her own but what tea did could have caused trouble for subaru...trouble which could have been avoided first thing...

and i think the truth finally hits home as everything gets rather emotional...(though the nanoha pic that flashed on sceen made it seem like nanoha is dead XD)

the group finishes off the drones and return home where nanoha finds out that he past has been revealed (gommen XD)

nanoha goes to find tea who is moping around near the sea...meanwhile the others are trying to eavesdropping :heh: nanoha tells tea that they all have their own special traints so theres no need to feel down...

nanoha releases cross mirage's lock and shows tea that her weapon still has a lot more to offer...and WTF is up with that dagger form :twitch: well tea breaks down crying and hugs nanoha...all the while saying ~

"im sorry im sorry!" (inserts riker's pic)

the next day fate chan tells them why they are called strikerS (mentioned a few posts earlier :))

well its a happy end all around as training starts again!

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6647/1180114236948cv1.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1180114236948cv1.jpg)
Everything's going so smoothly, ya?
By the way, was it "Gomenasai!" or "Sumimasen!"?

[Ruri]

Nah, don't worry. It was said earlier that she goes, "I'm sorry!" in the end.:heh:

4 times, in fact. :heh: Higurashi mode.

Looking forward to see Teana and Subaru motor-biking. XD And that's one gigantic ice cream cone Subaru has.

[raidou]

They took them from Bardiche and Raging Heart's logs. They're not intelligent devices for nothing :p

It has recording on her past before she met yuuno .... so i dont think it is from their devices

@kha
You know this make sense of all yours and C2F jokes scenario on the video auction :heh:

[Kha]

EHEU!!! I CALLED IT!!! TEANA HAS A GUNBLADE!!!

Man I called it long ago, and I'm not going to let it get away! :D

[Keroko]

The Mode 2 Gunblade looks eiriely like what I'm half-way designing for the OC thread...

Join the club. Strada was basically a clone of my Tausend Kreuz. Seven Arcs has been stealing fan ideas I tell ya! :D

Seconded, now you know how I felt after Caro was introduced... I mean, I had the entire black dragons thingy inserted before StrikerS even aired for pete's sake!

[Deathkillz]

oh and for those who want to see how uber cross mirage is in version 2 form :3
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3980/5935fx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

imagine tea using that to stab nanoha :uhoh:

[Kha]

Looking forward to see Teana and Subaru motor-biking. XD And that's one gigantic ice cream cone Subaru has.MORE CLAMP REFERENCES! The skinny Big Eater a la Yukito from Cardcaptor Sakura and recently Tsubasa Chronicles! :D

@kha
You know this make sense of all yours and C2F jokes scenario on the video auction :heh:Your praise of our insight has been humbly taken. :D

oh and for those who want to see how uber cross mirage is in version 2 form :3
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3980/5935fx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

imagine tea using that to stab nanoha :uhoh:GUNBLADE!!! :D Now that's what I cool UBER! :D I can't wait for her to dual wield that. :drool:

[Fuyu no Sora]

oh and for those who want to see how uber cross mirage is in version 2 form :3
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3980/5935fx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

imagine tea using that to stab nanoha :uhoh:

She wouldn't dare. Not unless she wants to be 'befriended' :heh: :heh:

[Klashikari]

err... the extra circle blade doesn't look really handy for actual melee battle Oo

the interesting thing however : does the blade can be fired?
because, considering how dense the blade is, firing it like a variable barrel can be extremely powerful

[Deathkillz]

She wouldn't dare. Not unless she wants to be 'befriended' :heh: :heh:
and no joke this time...nanoha would use her full force to befriend tea once and for all XD
err... the extra circle blade doesn't look really handy for actual melee battle Oo

the interesting thing however : does the blade can be fired?
because, considering how dense the blade is, firing it like a variable barrel can be extremely powerful
you throw it like a boomerang :3

[Flar]

It has recording on her past before she met yuuno .... so i dont think it is from their devicesYuuno had Raging Heart when he first met Nanoha.

[Aaron008R]

oh and for those who want to see how uber cross mirage is in version 2 form :3
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3980/5935fx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

imagine tea using that to stab nanoha :uhoh:

Hwah.:twitch: Gunblade-chakram? So the new devices have other forms after all. Damn, it makes me want to see the others.:eyespin:

[Fuyu no Sora]

and no joke this time...nanoha would use her full force to befriend tea once and for all XD

you throw it like a boomerang :3

Well, id she was serious, a nice little Divine Buster would be just the thing :heh:.

:eek: That's crazy. I'd like to see what other forms it can adopt.

[Keroko]

oh and for those who want to see how uber cross mirage is in version 2 form :3
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3980/5935fx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

imagine tea using that to stab nanoha :uhoh:

Woooow, + points for Tea in this one.

err... the extra circle blade doesn't look really handy for actual melee battle Oo

the interesting thing however : does the blade can be fired?
because, considering how dense the blade is, firing it like a variable barrel can be extremely powerful

Depends on the usage, I myself am more woried about those three inwards pointing blades. What purpose do they serve? If the blades can indeed be fired, they would serve as aditional ammo, making your theory more posible.

[Fuyu no Sora]

Woooow, + points for Tea in this one.



Depends on the usage, I myself am more woried about those three inwards pointing blades. What purpose do they serve? If the blades can indeed be fired, they would serve as aditional ammo, making your theory more posible.

Um... She still can't use that form. Nanoha only unlocked her device and showed her what Cross Mirage could become.

[Serenity85]

Dam Tea's new dagger form is cool^^ as for use, well its good for hand to hand, or stabby stabby^^ but she always could do an arc saber with it (dual style^^))

[raidou]

Yuuno had Raging Heart when he first met Nanoha.

"Before" as in the starting of Ep1 in the classroom/daily life before he met Yuuno means the RH are not even anywhere near her :P

Those extra circle blade could be very usefull to be used for defense, pretty sure i saw a similar design on that in WoW.Anyone remember?

[FlameSparkZ]

oh and for those who want to see how uber cross mirage is in version 2 form :3
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3980/5935fx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

imagine tea using that to stab nanoha :uhoh:

It looks a bit dangerous to weild, doesn't it? :heh:

[Keroko]

Um... She still can't use that form. Nanoha only unlocked her device and showed her what Cross Mirage could become.

Oh, oh well, plus points for Tia lessened, but still present. They will become more if she gets her head out of her emo mood and get back to being the cool girl she was in the beginning.

[Deathkillz]

Depends on the usage, I myself am more woried about those three inwards pointing blades. What purpose do they serve? If the blades can indeed be fired, they would serve as aditional ammo, making your theory more posible.
haha i think they are rather dangerous to be pointing towards tea...lets hope that in that form she is unable to fire...i wouldnt like to see the recoil on that "thing" :uhoh:
Um... She still can't use that form. Nanoha only unlocked her device and showed her what Cross Mirage could become.
and thats where the training comes in ~ shes going to be aiming to be able to use something this uber :3
It looks a bit dangerous to weild, doesn't it? :heh:
all the more easier to kill with haha...

[Fuyu no Sora]

Oh, oh well, plus points for Tia lessened, but still present. They will become more if she gets her head out of her emo mood and get back to being the cool girl she was in the beginning.

If she goes back to her former self, then I'll take back everything I said on her. And yeah, it'd be cool to see her actually using Cross Mirage in that form in battle. Speaking of which, any of you think it might have other forms?

[Klashikari]

Depends on the usage, I myself am more woried about those three inwards pointing blades. What purpose do they serve? If the blades can indeed be fired, they would serve as aditional ammo, making your theory more posible.
Humm, they look much like useless armament to me oO (well, their direction isn't really safe... and their size doesn't seem to be ammunition either. well... it would be even easier if the circle was let alone, and harmless. just solid enough to be useful as a parry feature)

the more i think about "firing the blades", the more i'm wondering if Teana can mimick Fate Plasma Lancer in the future. Heck, crossfire shoot with blades? (gates of babylon anyone? :heh:)

[Aaron008R]

If she goes back to her former self, then I'll take back everything I said on her. And yeah, it'd be cool to see her actually using Cross Mirage in that form in battle. Speaking of which, any of you think it might have other forms?

Someone (Skane I think) were speculating about a two-guns combined ala Strike Freedom mode while someone else was considering a Howling Launcher X from Weissritter. Heh, I wouldn't mind a Zero Wing Buster Rifle mode myself.:D

[Fuyu no Sora]

Someone (Skane I think) were speculating about a two-guns combined ala Strike Freedom mode while someone else was considering a Howling Launcher X from Weissritter. Heh, I wouldn't mind a Zero Wing Buster Rifle mode either.:D

That'd be a bit too much to handle I think......:heh: :heh: :heh:

[raidou]

If she goes back to her former self, then I'll take back everything I said on her. And yeah, it'd be cool to see her actually using Cross Mirage in that form in battle. Speaking of which, any of you think it might have other forms?
Probably one more form? considering almost all the old cast's device has 3 form (e.g. Signum/fate/nanoha/Vita)

[Kha]

Someone (Skane I think) were speculating about a two-guns combined ala Strike Freedom mode while someone else was considering a Howling Launcher X from Weissritter. Heh, I wouldn't mind a Zero Wing Buster Rifle mode myself.:D

I'd be just as happy if they combine to togther to form the Corelian Laser Sword from the Halo series. Btw, from that image it does seem that Teana is holding the weapon wrongly. Less like a pistol, more like a stick.

[Keroko]

haha i think they are rather dangerous to be pointing towards tea...lets hope that in that form she is unable to fire...i wouldnt like to see the recoil on that "thing" :uhoh:

That would be nice *bang* *splurt*

Nanoha: Whoops, maybe I should have warned her about the recoil...

If she goes back to her former self, then I'll take back everything I said on her. And yeah, it'd be cool to see her actually using Cross Mirage in that form in battle. Speaking of which, any of you think it might have other forms?

Maybe a big rifle form for huge siege attacks? That's what I am planning for a new OC of mine anyway, so I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out they'll use it... again. :heh:

I'd be just as happy if they combine to togther to form the Corelian Laser Sword from the Halo series. Btw, from that image it does seem that Teana is holding the weapon wrongly. Less like a pistol, more like a stick.

Star Wars flashbacks at the word corelian for a moment... Though she doesn't have much choice in holding it with those blades pointing at her, does she?

[Aaron008R]

That'd be a bit too much to handle I think......:heh: :heh: :heh:

Hmm. I guess she must be able to fly by then.:heh: I guess something more small-scale is in order...

[Fuyu no Sora]

Hmm. I guess she must be able to fly by then.:heh: I guess something more small-scale is in order...

Yes please...:heh: :heh:. It'd be a bit too dangerous if she used that kind of weapons, especially if she took note of Nanoha's 'befriending' mode :heh: :heh:

[Flar]

"Before" as in the starting of Ep1 in the classroom/daily life before he met Yuuno means the RH are not even anywhere near her :PWoops, my bad. Well then I suppose the TSAB did a thorough background check on their new recruits and that someone in Nanoha's class has the Tomoyo syndrome then. ;)

Those extra circle blade could be very usefull to be used for defense, pretty sure i saw a similar design on that in WoW.Anyone remember?I like the idea of Cross Mirage v2 being a bit like Bardiche scythe Form, a close combat all around weapon.
Fate can go straight melee with it, but as we saw in ep 5 she can also throw the "blade", seems good enough for Tea.

[raidou]

Here is some LQ amateur SS :heh:
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Preview:
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Sorry if not that good , the raw that i found in winny was not any better than nico >_<

[Kha]

Woops, my bad. Well then I suppose the TSAB did a thorough background check on their new recruits and that someone in Nanoha's class has the Tomoyo syndrome then. ;)Like I said, using the same technology that they use to view un-stealthed areas from the battleship without having to deploy UAVs, the wormhole camera, and the voyeurs dream.

I like the idea of Cross Mirage v2 being a bit like Bardiche scythe Form, a close combat all around weapon.
Fate can go straight melee with it, but as we saw in ep 5 she can also throw the "blade", seems good enough for Tea.Twig? No, but I'm sure its a 40-50 something 1H sword.

@Darco: It's 3.40 AM, and I'm awake, I'm awake... :D

[Fuyu no Sora]

Here is some LQ amateur SS :heh:
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Sorry if not that good , the raw that i found in winny was not any better than nico >_<

They're great thanks. OMG. Oh Lord! Poor Nanoha, that looks extremely painful :( :(

[raidou]

Kha your comment on her holding CM wrongly seem to be right considering the handle actually became somewhat in line with the barrel.

So the barrel became part of hilt and the circle function as knuckleguard similar to basket hilt sword in real life.

[Serenity85]

snap indeed^^ If it wasn't Nanoha I bet anyone else would have not been able to recover so well as she did cause it definitly looks like she got owned real bad, and (from summaries) the fact she even says she may not be able to walf again just proves how bad the situation was. Gah where are those decent LQ raws when you need them.

[octoberasian]

After looking at Tea's 2nd. form, I think it's more for close combat when ranged attacks are ineffective. It probably gives Tea more versatility in battle, and can be wielded like a sword, a chakram, or could be possibly thrown and retrieved. I'd call it the "Swiss-Army knife" of magical weapons from the looks of it. It looks pretty cool.
Kha your comment on her holding CM wrongly seem to be right considering the handle actually became somewhat in line with the barrel.

So the barrel became part of hilt and the circle function as knuckleguard similar to basket hilt sword in real life.
If you noticed that after Nanoha unlocked it, CM's handle tilted back a few degrees, maybe 20 to 25 degrees back, before the blades were unleashed. The look is very similar to Squall's Gunblade in FFVIII though with a shorter blade about half the length.I liked towards the end where Nanoha is giving Tea a "pep talk":
She lists the strengths of the Riot Force 6 members--
- Caro = magic support
- Erio = speed
- Subaru = close range

And, Tea would be their long-range attack. As for Ep. 9 preview, looks like RF6 gets some well-deserved R&R from all the training they've been getting. Tea rides a bike! Sweeeet!

As for the reasons why Nanoha did what she did to Tea, I believe now that they were justified. Signum, Shamal, and Shario explain why Nanoha did that to Tea and to show them why Nanoha doesn't want it to happen to anyone else. It's good enough reason for me, honestly. You can't have someone recklessly using powers they can't handle or push themselves beyond what they can truly handle, or it'll be dangerous to themselves and to others.

I wonder now, has Nanoha actually 100% completely healed from that attack? The wear on her body from A's to the point of that attack built up from the over-use of the then-premature cartridge system took a great toll on her body. It makes me worried if she hasn't completely healed, and if Nanoha will get into a much more worst situation later on. What if the toll and wear her body has undergone are still there, even though she's healed? I think someone in a previous Episode Thread mentioned something about a dire ending for Nanoha, and I hope that never happens. I, also, still wonder who did that attack on Nanoha then that caused her to misfire and ended with her being severely injured.

[Fuyu no Sora]

After looking at Tea's 2nd. form, I think it's more for close combat when ranged attacks are ineffective. It probably gives Tea more versatility in battle, and can be wielded like a sword, a chakram, or could be possibly thrown and retrieved. I'd call it the "Swiss-Army knife" of magical weapons from the looks of it. It looks pretty cool.

If you noticed that after Nanoha unlocked it, CM's handle tilted back a few degrees, maybe 20 to 25 degrees back, before the blades were unleashed.I liked towards the end where Nanoha is giving Tea a "pep talk":
She lists the strengths of the Riot Force 6 members--
- Caro = magic support
- Erio = speed
- Subaru = close range

And, Tea would be their long-range attack. As for Ep. 9 preview, looks like RF6 gets some well-deserved R&R from all the training they've been getting. Tea rides a bike! Sweeeet!

As for the reasons why Nanoha did what she did to Tea, I believe now that they were justified. Signum, Shamal, and Shario explain why Nanoha did that to Tea and to show them why Nanoha doesn't want it to happen to anyone else. It's good enough reason for me, honestly. You can't have someone recklessly using powers they can't handle or push themselves beyond what they can truly handle, or it'll be dangerous to themselves and to others.

I wonder now, has Nanoha actually 100% completely healed from that attack? The wear on her body from A's to the point of that attack built up from the over-use of the then-premature cartridge system took a great toll on her body. It makes me worried if she hasn't completely healed, and if Nanoha will get into a much more worst situation later on. What if the toll and wear her body has undergone are still there, even though she's healed? I think someone in a previous Episode Thread mentioned something about a dire ending for Nanoha, and I hope that never happens. I, also, still wonder who did that attack on Nanoha then that caused her to misfire and ended with her being severely injured.

I personally don't think Nanoha has completely healed from that. Probably they'll use that in the future to have her bed-ridden again after some battle in which she'll get badly bruised.

[Deathkillz]

I personally don't think Nanoha has completely healed from that. Probably they'll use that in the future to have her bed-ridden again after some battle in which she'll get badly bruised.
ahh the bad speculation from the past :p
well with this confirmation that nanoha can give herself too much strain i think its highly possible that the next time she goes flat out might cause some dire consequences...iirc there was some speculation about RH taking nanoha's powers...is that proven or just marely speculation?

[octoberasian]

I personally don't think Nanoha has completely healed from that. Probably they'll use that in the future to have her bed-ridden again after some battle in which she'll get badly bruised.

That's what I'm afraid of.After seeing a young Nanoha of 15 in the hospital, bandaged up, barely can stand up and walk, then collapsing onto the floor, I felt so bad for her. Those injuries, though not visible on the outside, probably still hasn't healed on the inside. And, someone did say that magic damage is different than physical damage earlier... I think Nanoha is the only one that knows about the true extent of her injuries.

[Fuyu no Sora]

That's what I'm afraid of.After seeing a young Nanoha of 15 in the hospital, bandaged up, barely can stand up and walk, then collapsing onto the floor, I felt so bad for her. Those injuries, though not visible on the outside, probably still hasn't healed on the inside. And, someone did say that magic damage is different than physical damage earlier... I think Nanoha is the only one that knows about the true extent of her injuries.

She'd never reveal anything to anyone so she won't worry anyone.

After seeing the SS, I really felt bad. Poor Nanoha. Yes, most probably those darned injuries haven't healed and will cause her to collapse in the middle of an important battle. This is turning out to be extremely bad. Nanoha would never reveal the extent of her injuries especially after seeing Fate's paranoia. In episode 2 she asked her if she was ok remember? Well, if it's kind of a habit, Nanoha obviously'll tell her she's okay.

[Icarus]

well with this confirmation that nanoha can give herself too much strain i think its highly possible that the next time she goes flat out might cause some dire consequences...iirc there was some speculation about RH taking nanoha's powers...is that proven or just marely speculation?

No, that is canon knowledge. In the A's manga (ch2 I believe) it is said that Raising Heart drains a mage's power constantly. Yuuno comments that most mages would be completely exhausted to the point of collapse after a few minutes worth of drain from the device, but Nanoha is somehow able to manage it on a daily basis, and even trains during her daily routines. She even says something along the lines of "it was uncomfortable at first, but I think I'm used to it now".

If anything, I reckon the limiters are in place not just to balance the ranks, but for Nanoha's benefit as well, given that her body is suspected to not be in complete health from the accident and the continual drain by her Intelligent Device.

[Keroko]

Just finished watching the Nico raw, and my thoughts on this episode can be summed up in three words: Best StrikerS episode.

Main reason? The drama!


Teana blowing up against her superiors, and getting a mean hook from Signum (points for originallity too, normally it's just a slap), Nanoha's injuries and the pain it took to heal from them (I'm really really hoping that this wasn't the last we've seen from it), Teana crying on Nanoha's shoulder while apolagizing, oh the drama!

It's been a while since an anime managed to get tears in my eyes, and this one episode did so on two ocasions! I'm filled with inspiration, back to bio writing!

Ahh, this is why I love Drama. :D

[Estavali]

Some short comments while the pros sleep/watch/re-watch #9 continously.

First thing: graphics are good this week. *Plus points added*

The title theme was that ominious one they used last week. But at least they managed to end this section in the good ol' Nanoha way (short of the befriending though.)

Subaru seems to like ice-cream a lot. In the manga she got herself a multi-layered cone during her "date" with Tia and Gin-ne.

Shari seems to play the onee-san/baby-sister to the newbies, perhaps spending more time with them than even their captains do. They tend to listen to her too imho.

The first thing I thought upon CM mode 2's grand entrance was actually "Chakram?!" (though CM calls it Dagger Mode). Though, like what many have noted, the design at the handle seems a bit... impractical.

This might the first time we see Signum lose her temper (or did she?) on screen.

A thought as to why Nanoha was so disappointed with those two last episode. Besides the recklessness factor, she was unhappy that Tiana wasn't putting her strong points to good use and was in fact wasting all her (Tia's) effort doing all those training. While this might not show too much in the mock battle, should Tia did something like that during a scrap, she would not only get herself in a dangerous situation, but also expose her comrades to unnecessary danger (one of her main responsibilities is to divert enemy attention with her covering fire and illusions).

[Fuyu no Sora]

No, that is canon knowledge. In the A's manga (ch2 I believe) it is said that Raising Heart drains a mage's power constantly. Yuuno comments that most mages would be completely exhausted to the point of collapse after a few minutes worth of drain from the device, but Nanoha is somehow able to manage it on a daily basis, and even trains during her daily routines. She even says something along the lines of "it was uncomfortable at first, but I think I'm used to it now".

If anything, I reckon the limiters are in place not just to balance the ranks, but for Nanoha's benefit as well, given that her body is suspected to not be in complete health from the accident and the continual drain by her Intelligent Device.

However it is also stated that the strain is part of a magical program, made to benefit her in the long run.

[Flar]

Like I said, using the same technology that they use to view un-stealthed areas from the battleship without having to deploy UAVs, the wormhole camera, and the voyeurs dream.Problem is, why waste a wormhole on watching Nanoha even before she gets involved with Yuuno?

Do they have a sort of cerebro for magical girls up there in TSAB?

Twig? No, but I'm sure its a 40-50 something 1H sword.

@Darco: It's 3.40 AM, and I'm awake, I'm awake... :DHmm dual wielded half moons can be pretty efficient if you pick up some martial art to go with it. Subaru mentionned that Tea is more agile than she is, and they were practicing close combat moves before Tea's lesson, too.

For mode 3 I just expect a cross mirage energy bazooka, just like a Rick Dom.


Edit: Re: magical drain training and Raising Heart...
Raging Heart shows how hax it is right from the bat with the training Nanoha followed. Cross Mirage doesn't have "image training" or magical drain that we can see, and poor Tea is forced to do real and apparently much less efficient work when solo, and Nanoha was forced to get a simulation zone for the newbies. :D

Nanoha still got the edge if she has to fight in outer space like in the manga ;)

[raidou]

However it is also stated that the strain is part of a magical program, made to benefit her in the long run.

There is actually still unclear argument on that matter , because there are mismatches between the manga and anime version on the drain.

@estavali
I dont think Signum actually loses her temper , it is just her way of teaching people.That's why signum said in ep3 that she is not suitable for their training since she has a way of knight , all she does with her sword is to hack stuff :heh:...I bet the rookies would all be in the hospital if Signum is their instructor.

[Fuyu no Sora]

There is actually still unclear argument on that matter , because there are mismatches between the manga and anime version on the drain.

And to top it all, it has never been stated in the anime that RH causes a strain on Nanoha. Talk about not giving up info.

[Icarus]

However it is also stated that the strain is part of a magical program, made to benefit her in the long run.

Correction. In the manga it says "... even if it was..." so it might be, it might not be. Whatever it is, it causes unnecessary drain, and if Nanoha is still using said program to improve her stamina, then it might have unneeded side-effects vis-a-vis her injuries.

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If it is a latent effect of Raising Heart, then I can see the limiters being used to sustain her current health. Having something draining you in that manner mixing with injuries that horrific always leads to bad things.

[Deathkillz]

And to top it all, it has never been stated in the anime that RH causes a strain on Nanoha. Talk about not giving up info.
which is why with no prior knowledge of the manga normal viewers wont know...and unless they bring it up its probably not even gonna feature ~ but thx for the info Fuyu no Sora ;)

[raidou]

And to top it all, it has never been stated in the anime that RH causes a strain on Nanoha. Talk about not giving up info.

Yeah the anime is the one that mentioned about the drain as part of the training by Nanoha (if i don't remember wrongly) while the manga stated that it is auto drain.Hmmm :heh:

Btw it doesn't seem that Zest is actually Lutecia's guardian.Lutecia ,Zest and Agito sound more like a team/partners and they did their work separately sometimes (similar to Wolken in A's).Although Lutecia probably pretty close to Zest.
I really want to see this Agito dude :p since Lutecia is related to insect theme (Garyuu is bipedal and doesn't look like dragon from the silhouette).Plus agito remind me of Kamer rider Agito :heh:

[Fuyu no Sora]

which is why with no prior knowledge of the manga normal viewers wont know...and unless they bring it up its probably not even gonna feature ~ but thx for the info Fuyu no Sora ;)

Anytime ^^. But it'd be nice if they could finally demistify us and gave us at least a glimpse of what the h*** this "Unknown' thing is. They like to leave us wondering things >.>

[GUTB_]

Terribly disapointing.

They set up the drama just to wrap it up with a HOME VIDEO showing Nanoha's achievments and tragedies. And everyone buys it like it all makes sense.

Okay, so, Nanoha's been spamming too many Starlight Breakers and she pays for it. So, obviously, she has to humiliate Subaru and Tiana for taking a mock battle too seriously.

Right.

Although I did enjoy how Nanoha reverted back to her loli voice when engaging combat: "iki maaaaasu!". Yeah, creeped me out. When will the director decide to deal with her ISSUES instead of sweeping under shaky and illogical excuses?

And if I were Tiana, don't know how good it would make me feel that the person who destroyed me in my moment of glory was a goddamned fated GENIUS of epic dimensions? But, according to this episode, it would make me feel much better apparantly.

[Aaron008R]

Yeah the anime is the one that mentioned about the drain as part of the training by Nanoha (if i don't remember wrongly) while the manga stated that it is auto drain.Hmmm :heh:

Btw it doesn't seem that Zest is actually Lutecia's guardian.Lutecia ,Zest and Agito sound more like a team/partners and they did their work separately sometimes (similar to Wolken in A's).Although Lutecia probably pretty close to Zest.
I really want to see this Agito dude :p since Lutecia is related to insect theme (her dragon is bipedal and doesn't look like dragon from the silhouette).Plus agito remind me of Kamer rider Agito :heh:

Hehe. We're on the same wavelength there. So your a Tokusatsu fan too?:) I was actually imagining Garyuu as a Kamen Rider as well. But I'd really prefer it if Agito is not an insect-type. They need variety.:heh:

:topicoff: I also need to thank you for pointing out Ultraman Nexus. It's really good.:D

[Fuyu no Sora]

Terribly disapointing.

They set up the drama just to wrap it up with a HOME VIDEO showing Nanoha's achievments and tragedies. And everyone buys it like it all makes sense.

Okay, so, Nanoha's been spamming too many Starlight Breakers and she pays for it. So, obviously, she has to humiliate Subaru and Tiana for taking a mock battle too seriously.

Right.

Although I did enjoy how Nanoha reverted back to her loli voice when engaging combat: "iki maaaaasu!". Yeah, creeped me out. When will the director decide to deal with her ISSUES instead of sweeping under shaky and illogical excuses?

And if I were Tiana, don't know how good it would make me feel that the person who destroyed me in my moment of glory was a goddamned fated GENIUS of epic dimensions? But, according to this episode, it would make me feel much better apparantly.

Nanoha doesn't have issues. If anything she's extremely sane, something which most people aren't after being thrashed around like she was. And pray tell, why is "I-don't-wan't-you-to-end-up-in-a-hospital-bed-after-being-almost-killed" an illogical excuse?

[raidou]

Hehe. We're on the same wavelength there. So your a Tokusatsu fan too?:) I was actually imagining Garyuu as a Kamen Rider as well. But I'd really prefer it if Agito is not an insect-type. They need variety.:heh:

:topicoff: I also need to thank you for pointing out Ultraman Nexus. It's really good.:D

Why not :D ...Agito's Kamen rider style Barrier jacket would looks great ^_^,
garyuu dont have to be really an insect type maybe somewhat closer to aura battle dunbine design.


Off topic:Haha you are welcome :) glad to see that someone actually check it out (people usually turn off by the "ultraman" part) although it is serious version of ultraman.I watch most tokusatsu show as long they are not overboard with the silliness :heh:

@GUTB
errr :heh: Relax....What do you mean by Nanoha history doesn't make sense in the 1st place anyway?

[Aaron008R]

Nanoha doesn't have issues. If anything she's extremely sane, something which most people aren't after being thrashed around like she was. And pray tell, why is "I-don't-wan't-you-to-end-up-in-a-hospital-bed-after-being-almost-killed" an illogical excuse?

:heh::heh::heh: I guess it's just the vision of Nanoha shooting someone twice > any rational excuse for several people. Quite the vicious cycle your going thru, ne, Fuyu?:heh:

[Fuyu no Sora]

:heh::heh::heh: I guess it's just the vision of Nanoha shooting someone twice > any rational excuse for several people. Quite the vicious cycle your going thru, ne, Fuyu?:heh:

LOL, yeah, I guess ^^. But if not for Forum Rules, I would've given my opinion, quite vast, on the post GUTB_ made (And it's not very pretty) Her reasons are understood and widely accepted. Why must we go through this again?

[GUTB_]

What issues?

Nanoha is a black hole for love, devotion and attention. She feeds off of it. What REALLY happened was that she sensed Subaru and Tiana's trying too had to beat her, and thus contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out. What the hell is a S+ rank Ace of Aces doing in Hayate's stupid little vanity unit? She doesn't give a crap about Lost Logia, she devotes every waking moment to obsessing over training. Nanoha just wants to create her own little world in which she reigns as the den queen and patron saint, to be fed that attention and love she craves so much.

She has a personality disorder no one around her wants to address, and apparantly, neither do the directors.

[Aaron008R]

LOL, yeah, I guess ^^. But if not for Forum Rules, I would've given my opinion, quite vast, on the post GUTB_ made (And it's not very pretty) Her reasons are understood and widely accepted. Why must we go through this again?

Makes you want to use your long argument as a signature, no?;)
It really can't be helped because of different times of reading the posts and different points of views. And I must admit it gets aggravating at times. Especially when one doesn't like a character flat out.

At the matter's resolved for now.:heh:

[Keroko]

What issues?

Nanoha is a black hole for love, devotion and attention. She feeds off of it. What REALLY happened was that she sensed Subaru and Tiana's trying too had to beat her, and thus contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out. What the hell is a S+ rank Ace of Aces doing in Hayate's stupid little vanity unit? She doesn't give a crap about Lost Logia, she devotes every waking moment to obsessing over training. Nanoha just wants to create her own little world in which she reigns as the den queen and patron saint, to be fed that attention and love she craves so much.

She has a personality disorder no one around her wants to address, and apparantly, neither do the directors.

Someone likes to view things from a darkened mirror here....

I don't know where you get this "black hole for love, devotion and attention" thing, nor the "contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out." Mind getting some hard facts instead of theorycrafting next time?

[Fuyu no Sora]

What issues?

Nanoha is a black hole for love, devotion and attention. She feeds off of it. What REALLY happened was that she sensed Subaru and Tiana's trying too had to beat her, and thus contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out. What the hell is a S+ rank Ace of Aces doing in Hayate's stupid little vanity unit? She doesn't give a crap about Lost Logia, she devotes every waking moment to obsessing over training. Nanoha just wants to create her own little world in which she reigns as the den queen and patron saint, to be fed that attention and love she craves so much.

She has a personality disorder no one around her wants to address, and apparantly, neither do the directors.

For one, calm down. FYI, Nanoha is in RF6 to HELP Hayate and the rest. If she wanted to create her own little world in which she reigns, she would do it, instead of training kids in battle so they won't get KILLED!!! We're talking about a military facility here, not some simple training base. People get killed and that's exactly what Nanoha is trying to prevent for the youngsters that joined the unit. That's why she trains them from dawn till break non-stop, that's why she stays until who knows what hours in the morning planning out lessons for them, that's why she does her best to show them what waits for them out there!!!

People in the military are supposed to pass psychological tests. If Nanoha was a nutso case with a personality disorder, then she would've been classified as dangerous and expelled from her line of work.

Forgive any mistakes in this post. I'm typing extremely fast due to anger.

[GUTB_]

So why does she NEVER wear the training sweats ALL the other officers engaged in training as wella s the trainnes wear? Because she wants to stand out, to be the centrer of attention, to be the celebrity.

[raidou]

From the description of Striker , should Chrono be considered in that category? Since his raw power is supposedly not as great as Nanoha/Fate but he make it up with his experience and skill.

@GUTB...that's just how it always work in an anime.It is just like characters that wear the same exact clothes 24 hr/day 7 days a week for the whole season of the series and you wonder why no one question em or why they dont stink. :heh:

[Fuyu no Sora]

So why does she NEVER wear the training sweats ALL the other officers engaged in training as wella s the trainnes wear? Because she wants to stand out, to be the centrer of attention, to be the celebrity.

OK. Why is it that you wish to see everything in a black way? If you don't like the show, then don't watch it and stop ranting with illogical and non backed up arguments, forcing people to go through all that has been discussed already.

[Aaron008R]

What issues?

Nanoha is a black hole for love, devotion and attention. She feeds off of it. What REALLY happened was that she sensed Subaru and Tiana's trying too had to beat her, and thus contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out. What the hell is a S+ rank Ace of Aces doing in Hayate's stupid little vanity unit? She doesn't give a crap about Lost Logia, she devotes every waking moment to obsessing over training. Nanoha just wants to create her own little world in which she reigns as the den queen and patron saint, to be fed that attention and love she craves so much.

She has a personality disorder no one around her wants to address, and apparantly, neither do the directors.

*chuckle* Oh boy, your going to be picking an argument with pretty much everyone in this entire thread by the way you described Nanoha. Please, let's be a little more milder on how we describe characters here.:heh: By the way, Riot Force Six is no vanity unit.


OK. Why is it that you wish to see everything in a black way? If you don't like the show, then don't watch it and stop ranting with illogical and non backed up arguments, forcing people to go through all that has been discussed already.

Calm down, Fuyu.:heh: If I didn't know better, I'd say he/she is just baiting you for more arguments. You must try not to allow it to get to your skin. We shouldn't force him/her if that person is so resolute on antagonizing the Nanoha characters. You've got a whole threads-worth of people agreeing with you after all. Getting annoyed in front of a computer is not very healthy.

[Icarus]

What issues?

Nanoha is a black hole for love, devotion and attention. She feeds off of it. What REALLY happened was that she sensed Subaru and Tiana's trying too had to beat her, and thus contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out. What the hell is a S+ rank Ace of Aces doing in Hayate's stupid little vanity unit? She doesn't give a crap about Lost Logia, she devotes every waking moment to obsessing over training. Nanoha just wants to create her own little world in which she reigns as the den queen and patron saint, to be fed that attention and love she craves so much.

She has a personality disorder no one around her wants to address, and apparantly, neither do the directors.

Oi! You with the club and the nose warts! Yes you!
GET BACK UNDER THAT BRIDGE!

I take it you're the kind of person who likes to download a series just to complain about it, especially considering your little trollbait thread on 4chan. Interesting theories, however you've been shot down countless times by anon, and you have little to no proof of your wild theories.

LOL, 'black hole of love and attention'. Sounds rather autobiographical.

So why does she NEVER wear the training sweats ALL the other officers engaged in training as wella s the trainnes wear? Because she wants to stand out, to be the centrer of attention, to be the celebrity.

Considering her white and blue uniform IS her instructors uniform...

... hang on, I remember you mentioning this on 4chan as well, saying she's always in her instructors uniform. Even though in many episodes she's been in formal wear, her more formal TSAB brown uniform, night wear...

I don't know where you get this "black hole for love, devotion and attention" thing, nor the "contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out." Mind getting some hard facts instead of theorycrafting next time?

Don't feed the trolls. ;p

[Fuyu no Sora]

*chuckle* Oh boy, your going to be picking an argument with pretty much everyone in this entire thread by the way you described Nanoha. Please, let's be a little more milder on how we describe characters here.:heh: By the way, Riot Force Six is no vanity unit.

I wish forum rules didn't exist. And yeah Aaron, you're quite right. RF6 Was created to deal with LL, not to be a flashy group that says "We're all powerful". They help people.

@Icarus: Edit your post. As much as I also want to express my personal opinion, it's clearly stated in the Forum Rules, that no flaming is to take place. Sadly, he hasn't insulted anyone in the forum yet.

[xizro345]

I don't buy the "darkened" issue here, but I'll try to sum up my doubts, which are mostly screenplay-related:


Basically what is seen at the end of episode 8 is:

1 - all of a sudden Nanoha releases RH, comments about the pointlessness of the actions then when Teana tries to shoot she shoots her.
2 - She shoots her again knocking her uncouncious and "apparently" hurt, while Subaru gets angry

Now, just looking at the whole Strikers internal logic, one could expect some consequences, especially on Subaru's idolization of Nanoha. Instead I've seen:

1- Nanoha didn't hurt Teana (nice plot device, this seems rather forced)
2 - Apparently everyone is ok with Nanoha blasting people instead of telling them what's wrong
3 - Everything ends "with tarallucci and wine" (Italian expression that is used to describe complex and somewhat big events ending easily without any explanation)

I'm looking at a typical case of "The Main Character is Never Wrong" IMO, something I'd really wished they'd avoid. For me the resolution isn't logical and not even satisfying, and I really hope they won't use these plot points ever again.

[Deathkillz]

What issues?

Nanoha is a black hole for love, devotion and attention. She feeds off of it. What REALLY happened was that she sensed Subaru and Tiana's trying too had to beat her, and thus contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out. What the hell is a S+ rank Ace of Aces doing in Hayate's stupid little vanity unit? She doesn't give a crap about Lost Logia, she devotes every waking moment to obsessing over training. Nanoha just wants to create her own little world in which she reigns as the den queen and patron saint, to be fed that attention and love she craves so much.

She has a personality disorder no one around her wants to address, and apparantly, neither do the directors.
haha...are you sure that your arent the one who wants the attention? ;)
neways if you can backup your post with some valid reasons i may consider it as something worth talking about but right now its just pointless...nanoha is nothing like that...or are you thinking that the white devil aspect of her has already taken over? ;)

this is the evil nanoha ~
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9623/de6581ec7216e1239a953d2nw5.th.jpg (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=de6581ec7216e1239a953d2nw5.jpg)

back on topic ~
nanoha really cared for her team...at the time where signum whacked tea it was vita who had to drag nanoha into the roflchopter while nanoha tries to say comfort the group...case closed ;)

[Lunariska]

i checked almost every torrent i know but can't find even the ultra LQ raw, so anyone could send me a link with pm or post it in the thread? after 2 hours of searching i just give up..

[Icarus]

I don't buy the "darkened" issue here, but I'll try to sum up my doubts, which are mostly screenplay-related:

Well, Nanoha was never really any good at explaining herself. (read: Starlight Breaker to face.)

Copypasta'd someone else's comments from some other forum, relevant:

OK, I've seen the episode.

As expected, the reason for Nanoha being upset was really poorly worded by her earlier. Nanoha continues to suck at communication

She is in fact referring to something that happened in her past

As we know, Nanoha progressed from one mode to another at break-neck speed during the first season. However, the human body is not meant to do that, the human body can not adopt to sudden changes without any negative drawbacks.

One day, years of stress of using levels of magic not yet meant for her, caused her body to not behave as usual and her reaction time was slowed down. This caused her to be shot down by an unknown enemy.

The reason why she was angry at Teana was she was trying to do flashy things when her body isn't used to the current level yet. Upon consideration there wasn't really nothing wrong in trying to go melee per say, since CrossMirage's level 2 is designed for that. (although Teana doesn't know it yet. Nanoha gave her sneak peek)

However Nanoha wants Teana to follow the course and clear the current level first. Furthermore, Crossfire Shoot when used properly can be very effective, as shown by Nanoha using it on her earlier.

[IchiKyo]

Hum... ok Episode 9 Saw
Everything's finishing good. So no one turn their back and Tiana have thinking by herself about how Nanoha have suffering in the past...
Oh great... Nanoha when she was perhaps between 10 and 14, she suffer a lot...
I think i don't need to comment the rest but i've appreciate the way of this episode turns... Also the Tiana Device, the little Gunblade, it's more like the Weapon of Haseo on Hack://G.U Vol3...

[raidou]

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back on topic ~
nanoha really cared for her team...at the time where signum whacked tea it was vita who had to drag nanoha into the roflchopter while nanoha tries to say comfort the group...case closed ;)

I was thinking that if Shario didn't come and did the explanation , Subaru would end up in bruises just like Teana....Signum knight-ish way of teaching :eyespin:

[Aaron008R]

I wish forum rules didn't exist. And yeah Aaron, you're quite right. RF6 Was created to deal with LL, not to be a flashy group that says "We're all powerful". They help people.

@Icarus: Edit your post. As much as I also want to express my personal opinion, it's clearly stated in the Forum Rules, that no flaming is to take place. Sadly, he hasn't insulted anyone in the forum yet.

Let's just leave it at that.;) He/She seems to be shot down well enough by Deathkillz already. Like I said from my earlier post:

Calm down, Fuyu. If I didn't know better, I'd say he/she is just baiting you for more arguments. You must try not to allow it to get to your skin. We shouldn't force him/her if that person is so resolute on antagonizing the Nanoha characters. You've got a whole threads-worth of people agreeing with you after all. Getting annoyed in front of a computer is not very healthy.

Try not to stress yourself out over this, okay?

@Deathkillz: Thanks for bringing up Dark Nanoha again.:D It's been a while since I've last seen her.

[Keroko]

So why does she NEVER wear the training sweats ALL the other officers engaged in training as wella s the trainnes wear? Because she wants to stand out, to be the centrer of attention, to be the celebrity.

Again the theorycrafting?

*Sigh* there are many reasons why she does not wear the same as others. For one, the white and blue uniform is her training uniform. In the first training sequence, she wears a barrier jacket to increase the difficullity level for the trainees. This is not an ego matter, but a training matter.

By the way, you still haven't explained where you managed to get this "black hole for love, devotion and attention" thing, nor the "contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out."

Plus, Nanoha's doesn't care about lost Logia? damn, can you cary the theorycrafting any further? I am getting heavy flashbacks to the WoW forums. Some of the forum trolls there could really get under my skin.

Don't feed the trolls. ;p

I'm used to feeding them untill they explode, most of the times getting them banned in the proces.

I don't buy the "darkened" issue here, but I'll try to sum up my doubts, which are mostly screenplay-related:


Basically what is seen at the end of episode 8 is:

1 - all of a sudden Nanoha releases RH, comments about the pointlessness of the actions then when Teana tries to shoot she shoots her.
2 - She shoots her again knocking her uncouncious and "apparently" hurt, while Subaru gets angry

Now, just looking at the whole Strikers internal logic, one could expect some consequences, especially on Subaru's idolization of Nanoha. Instead I've seen:

1- Nanoha didn't hurt Teana (nice plot device, this seems rather forced)
2 - Apparently everyone is ok with Nanoha blasting people instead of telling them what's wrong
3 - Everything ends "with tarallucci and wine" (Italian expression that is used to describe complex and somewhat big events ending easily without any explanation)

I'm looking at a typical case of "The Main Character is Never Wrong" IMO, something I'd really wished they'd avoid. For me the resolution isn't logical and not even satisfying, and I really hope they won't use these plot points ever again.


Mkay, back to serious discussions:


the releasing RH has been explained multiple times, it was just reduced to a jewel form to give her two free hands.

Oh, she was hurt allright, one does not fall unconsious from featherpunches, just not 'permanently injured' And concidering the 'telling instead of blasting', how many times have I told this? Teana did. not. listen. to. words. What use is telling lessons to people who won't listen? Experience goes a long way in that regard.

Main character is never wrong? Riiiight, just like she was never wrong in using too much heavy artillery magic which nearly made her lose all movement in her body?

Se can be wrong, she has been wrong, in this case, she was right.

[GUTB_]

Fact is, every other officer involved in training shows up in the training sweats, same as the trainees. Nanoha never gets out of her uniform, even though she often takes a direct role in training. I CAN'T be the only one to have noticed this.

I'll let TASB's incredibly lax human resource management slide (letting top level aces get into a stupid vanity unit and not members of more prominent units where they may be needed) as TASB is seems to be very happy-go-lucky orginization anyway. But there is NO reason for Nanoha to be there. If she REALLY wanted to train noobs, she could do it as a proper instructor in the TASB's own training programs, and thereby benfit MANY more people than just a couple of members hand-picked for their vanity unit. So what's the difference between Hayate's stupid little vanit unit and TASB's training programs?

The main difference being that RF6 is a small unit commanded by her personal friend, and that she'll be free to act as she pleases, and be the center of attention and devotion. In a regular military unit, she may be a celebrity, but there'll be a large chain of command or beuracracy surrouding her, and this does not give rise to the sort of personal world she wishes to build for herslef.

Even if you're inclined to find nothing wrong with Nanoha, you have to at least realize that if she REALLY wanted to save people from the dangers of reckless magic use, she could help many more poeple as a regular training unit instructor, and also impact TSAB's training doctorine.

[Icarus]

I'm used to feeding them untill they explode, most of the times getting them banned in the proces.

Hahah, same here. I do it a lot at my usual forum.

In any rate, I liked this episode. It had quite a sombre mood, first with the punching, and then with the shouting, then the history lesson, and then with the tearful resolution. At least we can be sure that Teana will be more confident in her abilities and return to training with a more correct attitude.

Also, I do hope that's not filler in episode 10. -_-;;

[raidou]

Hahah, same here. I do it a lot at shmupsforum.

In any rate, I liked this episode. It had quite a sombre mood, first with the punching, and then with the shouting, then the history lesson, and then with the tearful resolution. At least we can be sure that Teana will be more confident in her abilities and return to training with a more correct attitude.

Also, I do hope that's not filler in episode 10. -_-;;

They probably would squeeze some character development here and there .I am expecting some more Caro X Erio date accident :D since Fate and Nanoha doesn't seem to go along with em.Teana and Subaru goes together in their motorbike that leave Erio alone with Caro behind :naughty:

They could add surprise at the end just like ep 8, Dr.Orange might kidnap our shota to satisfy his hobby in the end of episode ^.^

[Keroko]

Fact is, every other officer involved in training shows up in the training sweats, same as the trainees. Nanoha never gets out of her uniform, even though she often takes a direct role in training. I CAN'T be the only one to have noticed this.

Considering that uniform is Nanoha's training uniform (she is, in fact, the only one who has finished an instructor training) yes, yes you have. You simply failed to notice that you were completely wrong.

I'll let TASB's incredibly lax human resource management slide (letting top level aces get into a stupid vanity unit and not members of more prominent units where they may be needed)

Relics can destroy entire planet, how is that not needed?

as TASB is seems to be very happy-go-lucky orginization anyway. But there is NO reason for Nanoha to be there. If she REALLY wanted to train noobs, she could do it as a proper instructor in the TASB's own training programs, and thereby benfit MANY more people than just a couple of members hand-picked for their vanity unit. So what's the difference between Hayate's stupid little vanit unit and TASB's training programs?

Nanoha is training future elites, not newbies fresh to magic. There is a difference, and yes elites do have to be trained before they can become elites, this is a simple fact.

The main difference being that RF6 is a small unit commanded by her personal friend, and that she'll be free to act as she pleases, and be the center of attention and devotion. In a regular military unit, she may be a celebrity, but there'll be a large chain of command or beuracracy surrouding her, and this does not give rise to the sort of personal world she wishes to build for herslef.

You have not watched every episode, have you? RF6 is still tied to a strict chain of command, one that goes beyond Hayate. This again, nulliefies your -still baseless i might add- 'center of atention and devotion' theory.

Even if you're inclined to find nothing wrong with Nanoha, you have to at least realize that if she REALLY wanted to save people from the dangers of reckless magic use, she could help many more poeple as a regular training unit instructor, and also impact TSAB's training doctorine.

I never said there is nothing wrong with Nanoha. She has made mistakes, multiple, in fact. However, she never wanted to save everyone from reckless magic abuse. Tiana just happened to be in the unit, and had that problem. If she never had that problem, it would have never even been brought to the surface.

[Aaron008R]

They probably would squeeze some character development here and there .I am expecting some more Caro X Erio date accident :D since Fate and Nanoha doesn't seem to go along with em.Teana and Subaru goes together in their motorbike that leave Erio alone with Caro behind :naughty:

They could add surprise at the end just like ep 8, Dr.Orange might kidnap our shota to satisfy his hobby in the end of episode ^.^

:heh::heh::heh:
Let's leave the shotacon part out, please.:heh:
In any case, the next episode could end in peacefully or with another emergency.
Or maybe they could put in some trouble midway.

[Keroko]

Meh, I'm hoping for a peacefull one for a change. Enough robots for now

[Chaos2Frozen]

Fact is, every other officer involved in training shows up in the training sweats, same as the trainees. Nanoha never gets out of her uniform, even though she often takes a direct role in training. I CAN'T be the only one to have noticed this.


HAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!

This is comedy gold :D!!! What a way to start the day at 5:50am in the morning :)!

Please oh PLEASE tell me why did an instructor who is specialized in RANGE combat needs to be seen sweating?

For that matter, why does it even matter to you that she sweat?

Does it bother you so much? Does it get you a burning desire to cut something? Scratch your eyes out? Tear your hair out?



I'll let TASB's incredibly lax human resource management slide (letting top level aces get into a stupid vanity unit and not members of more prominent units where they may be needed) as TASB is seems to be very happy-go-lucky orginization anyway. But there is NO reason for Nanoha to be there. If she REALLY wanted to train noobs, she could do it as a proper instructor in the TASB's own training programs, and thereby benfit MANY more people than just a couple of members hand-picked for their vanity unit. So what's the difference between Hayate's stupid little vanit unit and TASB's training programs?



HAHAHAHAHAHA....!

Oh this is pure gold! You should really come into the business with us :)

I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate was the one who created this department... I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate asked Nanoha to join her... I LOVE it you ignored the job description of RF6 :D!



The main difference being that RF6 is a small unit commanded by her personal friend, and that she'll be free to act as she pleases, and be the center of attention and devotion. In a regular military unit, she may be a celebrity, but there'll be a large chain of command or beuracracy surrouding her, and this does not give rise to the sort of personal world she wishes to build for herslef.


This person is a genius!

I mean, how many people could pick out nanoha's evil and non-existing flaws in her character?!

Nicely done! :)


Even if you're inclined to find nothing wrong with Nanoha, you have to at least realize that if she REALLY wanted to save people from the dangers of reckless magic use, she could help many more poeple as a regular training unit instructor, and also impact TSAB's training doctorine.

That is so cool!

I like it how you prove that you've only watched this and ONLY this episode :D

Yeah! Why should her reasons from episode 2 be more important! Screw that! That's the spirit!!



P.S -

@ Raidou

Like that? :D

[Icarus]

They probably would squeeze some character development here and there .I am expecting some more Caro X Erio date accident :D since Fate and Nanoha doesn't seem to go along with em.Teana and Subaru goes together in their motorbike that leave Erio alone with Caro behind :naughty:

They could add surprise at the end just like ep 8, Dr.Orange might kidnap our shota to satisfy his hobby in the end of episode ^.^

Well, given that we've seen a conclusion to Teana's arc, a bit of history on Caro, and parts of Subaru's backstory, it would be safe to say that Erio is next in line for some character development. Especially given that he's tied in to Project Fate, along with Fate and Dr. Spaghetti. Perhaps something involving Erio, Lutecia and the "good" Doc?

Lutecia: *Darth Vader voice* "Erio... I AM your sister..."

*gets on his knees and prays*
Please God, don't let it be useless filler.

[raidou]

:heh::heh::heh:
Let's leave the shotacon part out, please.:heh:
In any case, the next episode could end in peacefully or with another emergency.
Or maybe they could put in some trouble midway.
WHY!!!....

"Satisfy his hobby"as in his hobby on relic/LL related materials and since Erio is a remnant of Project F which most probably related to Jewels seeds so :uhoh:

Ok ok i understand :heh: Just kidding :p

P.S -

@ Raidou

Like that?
Yup exactly like that :D they are great too btw lol ...thank you

[Aaron008R]

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!

This is comedy gold :D!!! What a way to start the day at 5:50am in the morning :)!

Please oh PLEASE tell me why did an instructor who is specialized in RANGE combat needs to be seen sweating?

For that matter, why does it even matter to you that she sweat?

Does it bother you so much? Does it get you a burning desire to cut something? Scratch your eyes out? Tear your hair out?





HAHAHAHAHAHA....!

Oh this is pure gold! You should really come into the business with us :)

I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate was the one who created this department... I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate asked Nanoha to join her... I LOVE it you ignored the job description of RF6 :D!




This person is a genius!

I mean, how many people could pick out nanoha's evil and non-existing flaws in her character?!

Nicely done! :)



That is so cool!

I like it how you prove that you've only watched this and ONLY this episode :D

Yeah! Why should her reasons from episode 2 be more important! Screw that! That's the spirit!!



P.S -

@ Raidou

Like that? :D

You'd scare away even the most resolute trolls by the way your speaking.:heh:
And I thought the pic of Dark Nanoha was good enough.:heh:

[Chaos2Frozen]

You'd scare away even the most resolute trolls by the way your speaking.:heh:
And I thought the pic of Dark Nanoha was good enough.:heh:

Lesson of the day?

There're always ways around flaming :)

[Aaron008R]

Lesson of the day?

There're always ways around flaming :)

Hai! *takes down notes*
By the way, Chaos, did you find anything in the episode to poke with?

[Fuyu no Sora]

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!

This is comedy gold :D!!! What a way to start the day at 5:50am in the morning :)!

Please oh PLEASE tell me why did an instructor who is specialized in RANGE combat needs to be seen sweating?

For that matter, why does it even matter to you that she sweat?

Does it bother you so much? Does it get you a burning desire to cut something? Scratch your eyes out? Tear your hair out?

HAHAHAHAHAHA....!

Oh this is pure gold! You should really come into the business with us :)

I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate was the one who created this department... I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate asked Nanoha to join her... I LOVE it you ignored the job description of RF6 :D!

This person is a genius!

I mean, how many people could pick out nanoha's evil and non-existing flaws in her character?!

Nicely done! :)

That is so cool!

I like it how you prove that you've only watched this and ONLY this episode :D

Yeah! Why should her reasons from episode 2 be more important! Screw that! That's the spirit!!

P.S -

@ Raidou

Like that? :D

Master Chaos is back in gear :D :D :D :D :D

@Aaron: You're right. Besides, this could cause wars again -_-;;

[panzerfan]

Hmm... there is nothing more idiotic than to discuss skills, abilities and personality as one. It is laughable to base the cause of success purely on ethics.

And to indirectly respond to GUTB_ just from quotation, "belief is but a strong wish, and there is no subjective ground to speak of. the stronger the belief, the narrower the perspective, and the more error-prone judgment and analysis become. basically, belief is a loathsome term, and should just be appended in the dictionary and not to be speak of. To kill based on one's belief is more despicable than to kill for money, since money is universally transferable, while the value to belief is limited to the individual."

[Deathkillz]

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!

This is comedy gold :D!!! What a way to start the day at 5:50am in the morning :)!

Please oh PLEASE tell me why did an instructor who is specialized in RANGE combat needs to be seen sweating?

For that matter, why does it even matter to you that she sweat?

Does it bother you so much? Does it get you a burning desire to cut something? Scratch your eyes out? Tear your hair out?





HAHAHAHAHAHA....!

Oh this is pure gold! You should really come into the business with us :)

I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate was the one who created this department... I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate asked Nanoha to join her... I LOVE it you ignored the job description of RF6 :D!




This person is a genius!

I mean, how many people could pick out nanoha's evil and non-existing flaws in her character?!

Nicely done! :)



That is so cool!

I like it how you prove that you've only watched this and ONLY this episode :D

Yeah! Why should her reasons from episode 2 be more important! Screw that! That's the spirit!!



P.S -

@ Raidou

Like that? :D
now that the mood has been lifted by chaos' sarcasm banter lets get back on track :)
oh and chaos be sure to check back and look at tea's new weapon :3

[Chaos2Frozen]

Hai! *takes down notes*
By the way, Chaos, did you find anything in the episode to poke with?

Master Chaos is back in gear :D :D :D :D :D

@Aaron: You're right. Besides, this could cause wars again -_-;;

To be honest, judging from Thisguy's summary, probably nothing much this week as well :heh:

(But I'll know more when I actually watched the chinese sub on Tuesday...)

But I have to say, the most shocking thing for this entire episode would probably be that they DIDN'T show that culprits :heh:

I get the feeling that it doesn't mean much in the long run to the story, so they're leaving it open for the fans to insert whatever random scene in their heads...

EDIT:

[/spoiler]
now that the mood has been lifted by chaos' sarcasm banter lets get back on track :)

Sarcasm? :confused:


oh and chaos be sure to check back and look at tea's new weapon :3

I did, and I still don't know what to say :heh:

Other than,

"Oh, so THATS why she has a limiter :0"

[Fuyu no Sora]

To be honest, judging from Thisguy's summary, probably nothing much this week as well :heh:

(But I'll know more when I actually watched the chinese sub on Tuesday...)

But I have to say, the most shocking thing for this entire episode would probably be that they DIDN'T show that culprits :heh:

I get the feeling that it doesn't mean much in the long run to the story, so they're leaving it open for the fans to insert whatever random scene in their heads...

Oh c'mon. There must be something you can work on :D :D :D

But yeah, they're not gonna show the culprits, as always :rolleyes:

[Keroko]

oh and chaos be sure to check back and look at tea's new weapon :3

I'll save him the trouble:

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3980/5935fx8.jpg

[raidou]

Oh c'mon. There must be something you can work on :D :D :D

But yeah, they're not gonna show the culprits, as always :rolleyes:

He would be in heaven for next week episode...assuming they cover Erio and Caro trip too, not just Teana /Subaru

Btw earlier i asked whether Chrono fit the description for Striker ? since he make up his lack of raw power(compared with fate/nanoha) with his experience and skill.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Oh c'mon. There must be something you can work on :D :D :D

But yeah, they're not gonna show the culprits, as always :rolleyes:

I think they haven't figured out what/who they're intending to put into the scene :heh:



now that the mood has been lifted by chaos' sarcasm banter lets get back on track :)

Sarcasm? :confused:


oh and chaos be sure to check back and look at tea's new weapon :3

I did, and I still don't know what to say :heh:

Other than,

"Oh, so THATS why she has a limiter :0"

[Aaron008R]

I think they haven't figured out what/who they're intending to put into the scene :heh:

An evil Ultraman?:heh:

Sarcasm? :confused:

Let's just call it destructive patronizing.;)

I did, and I still don't know what to say :heh:

Other than,

"Oh, so THATS why she has a limiter :0"

I'll try to think up on some trigger ideas.:heh:

[GUTB_]

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!

This is comedy gold :D!!! What a way to start the day at 5:50am in the morning :)!

Please oh PLEASE tell me why did an instructor who is specialized in RANGE combat needs to be seen sweating?

Since english doesn't appear to be your first language, I'll let you off on that one. I meant "sweats" as in track field wear, ie, loose-fitting, soft clothing you'd wear at a gym or track field. All other officers wear this clothing during training, along with the trainees. Only Nanoha refuses to wear them.

I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate was the one who created this department... I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate asked Nanoha to join her... I LOVE it you ignored the job description of RF6 :D!

To the contrary, it is exactly the reason why the unit is commanded by her friend that she decided to join it. She could have been far more prominent in the TSAB's chain of command elsewhere, but she'd rather be in Hayate's personal vanity unit, even though she doesn't apparantly care about the unit's mission. You have to ask why.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Since english doesn't appear to be your first language, I'll let you off on that one. I meant "sweats" as in track field wear, ie, loose-fitting, soft clothing you'd wear at a gym or track field. All other officers wear this clothing during training, along with the trainees. Only Nanoha refuses to wear them.


HAHA!

Thanks for going easy on me :)

Now tell me, WHY does it bother you again? :D

Or do you LOVE picking other people's 'flaw' :)


To the contrary, it is exactly the reason why the unit is commanded by her friend that she decided to join it. She could have been far more prominent in the TSAB's chain of command elsewhere, but she'd rather be in Hayate's personal vanity unit, even though she doesn't apparantly care about the unit's mission. You have to ask why.

Do you have any friends? :D

Do you prefer working with friends or with strangers, or perharps even by your lonesome self? :)

And WHERE oh WHERE did you get the impression that she doesn't care? :D
I'm eager for MORE insights into the minds of your particular sub-species :)



@panzerfan

You're starting to worry me :heh:

[panzerfan]

It is seldom that the ideology that sells, but the personality behind it. Besides, any human has the right to secure one's benefit. That should be more than ample reason to be in section 6 for Hayate's longtime colleagues.

[Keroko]

Or do you LOVE picking other people's 'flaw' :)

He completely ignored my well-argumented post.... does that make me 'unflawed?'

I might just feel a bit hurt there....

[Fuyu no Sora]

HAHA!

Thanks for going easy on me :)

Now tell me, WHY does it bother you again? :D

Or do you LOVE picking other people's 'flaw' :)

Do you have any friends? :D

Do you prefer working with friends or with strangers, or perharps even by your lonesome self? :)

And WHERE oh WHERE did you get the impression that she doesn't care? :D
I'm eager for MORE insights into the minds of your particular sub-species :)

@panzerfan

You're starting to worry me :heh:


The only thing I can say about this is the following: NOW I see why 300 chose you as their leader MoJ Chaos. Your arguments are pure gold and they crush the enemy :D :D :D :D.

[krisslanza]

I wonder if it ever occured to GUTB_ that maybe, just maybe, the instructor themself wears a different uniform in the TSAB military? You know, just because our real life military instructors might wear the same thing doesn't mean the TSAB military works like that.

And obviously a unit that deals in stopping things that can cause dimensional dislocations is a 'vanity' unit and assigning top grade members to a unit that prevents some guy from destroying dimensions themselves is a waste of time and manpower. v.v

EDIT:
Lies, Chaos never crushes me!... I think.

[Aaron008R]

Since english doesn't appear to be your first language, I'll let you off on that one. I meant "sweats" as in track field wear, ie, loose-fitting, soft clothing you'd wear at a gym or track field. All other officers wear this clothing during training, along with the trainees. Only Nanoha refuses to wear them.

Oh that? Well, the mostly accepted explanation for that is because Nanoha is primarily an instructor. Being that, she naturally has her instructor's uniform. And when she's training the rookies, she would naturally wear her uniform for teaching. If your curious to why Fate doesn't do the same, she's an Enforcer and not an instructor. Would my explanation do?:)

To the contrary, it is exactly the reason why the unit is commanded by her friend that she decided to join it. She could have been far more prominent in the TSAB's chain of command elsewhere, but she'd rather be in Hayate's personal vanity unit, even though she doesn't apparantly care about the unit's mission. You have to ask why.

Seems like she's not really interested in taking a higher rank.:heh:
Personal vanity unit? So you wouldn't have it any other way?:confused: Does the job description of Riot Force Six sound so trivial to you?
So Nanoha doesn't care about her mission in the Squad? Why would you think like that? Honestly, I just think that you don't really like her.:heh:
And by the way. Thanks for heeding my request about the milder approach. Conversing like this is much more enjoyable, ne?


@Keroko: What are the chances that you think my post would be ignored as well? This is certainly starting to get interesting.:D

[Chaos2Frozen]

He completely ignored my well-argumented post.... does that make me 'unflawed?'

I might just feel a bit hurt there....

*pat pat*

It's okay, someday you'll learn how to become flawed. I know it's a long wait, but when you get there, it'll be all worth it :)


The only thing I can say about this is the following: NOW I see why 300 chose you as their leader MoJ Chaos. Your arguments are pure gold and they crush the enemy :D :D :D :D.

It sort of just happened :heh:

But Skane and others still do a better job at 'crushing' people :heh:



EDIT:
Lies, Chaos never crushes me!... I think.

Of course not :)

You're simply too good ;)

EDIT:


And by the way. Thanks for heeding my request about the milder approach. Conversing like this is much more enjoyable, ne?

GUTB's just being careful now :)

[Fuyu no Sora]

*pat pat*

It's okay, someday you'll learn how to become flawed. I know it's a long wait, but when you get there, it'll be all worth it :)

It sort of just happened :heh:

But Skane and others still do a better job at 'crushing' people :heh:

Of course not :)

You're simply too good ;)

EDIT:

GUTB's just being careful now :)

Ya, w/e :D :D.

Maybe Skane and the rest are better at crushing, but they'll never be as great as Master of Jokes Chaos in arguments :D :D

EDIT: We might wanna stop this and get back on topic before Mods. step in :heh:

[Aaron008R]

It sort of just happened :heh:

But Skane and others still do a better job at 'crushing' people :heh:


Hmm. Perhaps your right. Skane is pretty much of demi-mod status already.

GUTB's just being careful now :)

I see. But won't you agree that this way is much more civilized?:naughty:

I hope you don't mind if I'll join in on some of the fun. I'm actually snickering in delight right now. Perhaps it's because of not sleeping for the night.:heh:

[Keroko]

EDIT: We might wanna stop this and get back on topic before Mods. step in :heh:

Good point, *drag drag* back to topic you go!

So Teana's emo-ness has been fixed with a heart touching scene, do you think this is the end of it?

[Aaron008R]

Good point, *drag drag* back to topic you go!

So Teana's emo-ness has been fixed with a heart touching scene, do you think this is the end of it?

Nah, she'll most probably get a wavering resolve scene in the near future. but she'll pull through anyway. I'm just much more eager to see her go dere-dere already.

[panzerfan]

Well, we might as well as to act as gentiles, and not get too close to the flame. To think of only completing what we can do and after that carry ourselves in a carefree manner. Of course, this is a rather lazy personality trait to have.

Speaking of large-caliber artillery weapons in real life, the 80K(E) railway guns, when fired, caused significant mechanical stresses on the barrel. The rounds literally wear out the barrel and causes the bore to increase in size. The way how Krupp engineers coped with this is to increase the size of the projectiles with each successive round in the life cycle of a barrel, and to totally rebore the cannon/ swap the barrel after the life cycle is up. Same techniques were used in the 'Paris gun' of WWI.

[Aaron008R]

Well, we might as well as to act as gentiles, and not get too close to the flame. To think of only completing what we can do and after that carry ourselves in a carefree manner. Of course, this is a rather lazy personality trait to have.

Touche. You hit the nail right on the head. (ME:heh:) Though I'd classify it as casual.

Speaking of large-caliber artillery weapons in real life, the 80K(E) railway guns, when fired, caused significant mechanical stresses on the barrel. The rounds literally wear out the barrel and causes the bore to increase in size. The way how Krupp engineers coped with this is to increase the size of the projectiles with each successful round in the life cycle of a barrel, and to totally rebore the cannon/ swap the barrel after the life cycle is up.

Only in his case, it's a human were talking about. I'm rather certain that she would at least be back in top condition given due time.

[Deathkillz]

EDIT: We might wanna stop this and get back on topic before Mods. step in :heh:
you are wise young one :heh:
Good point, *drag drag* back to topic you go!

So Teana's emo-ness has been fixed with a heart touching scene, do you think this is the end of it?
lets see...
if anything i think tea may be the one to betray her friends if Dr spaghetti gets his "brainwashing" machine fixed...shes prone to emotional flux being that sorta type :3

[Fuyu no Sora]

Good point, *drag drag* back to topic you go!

So Teana's emo-ness has been fixed with a heart touching scene, do you think this is the end of it?

I have to say: This is the cutest way I ever saw of dragging the topic's butt back on :heh: :heh:

Probably and hopefully it will. Tea needs to go back to her cool and composed self again, the self that made her the leader of the rookies :)

EDIT: I'm not that young :heh:

[Chaos2Frozen]

In my opinion, they better have wrapped it up.

We still have a crap load of plot to go through... All of which would be uncomfortable and perhaps even fustrating if we have to looking over our shoulders for Teana everytime...

(Quite literally for the forwards, as Teana's the one covering their backs :heh:)

[Aaron008R]

So who do you think is up next for the plot cannon?

[Keroko]

So who do you think is up next for the plot cannon?

loli-rider, they have built up some tension around her, now they will start working it out.

[Aaron008R]

loli-rider, they have built up some tension around her, now they will start working it out.

Hmm. If that's so, they better start with the several encounters of youthful innocence for the three kids.:D

[Serenity85]

loli-rider, they have built up some tension around her, now they will start working it out.

next ep will prob bring more info on Erio with a little Caro action and maybe (i'm hoping *fingers crossed* Lutecia) But first I have to see this ep^^

[Chaos2Frozen]

So who do you think is up next for the plot cannon?

We have three candidates:

1- Lutecia
2- Erio
3- Subaru

Subaru being the least likely seeing as the only think left about her is the death of her mother. Unless they somehow manage to fit that in with them having to visit her grave, Revelations like how she died usually are revealed near the end...

And I would give ANYTHING (reasonably possible) to see Lutecia and Erio's story being joined up :D

(Caro's too, seeing as there's some things still shady...)

Screw emo teenagers!

Loli/Shota/Loli is the way Nanoha (The series) should be!

[Aaron008R]

We have three candidates:

1- Lutecia
2- Erio
3- Subaru

Subaru being the least likely seeing as the only think left about her is the death of her mother. Unless they somehow manage to fit that in with them having to visit her grave, Revelations like how she died usually are revealed near the end...

And I would give ANYTHING (reasonably possible) to see Lutecia and Erio's story being joined up :D

(Caro's too, seeing as there's some things still shady...)

Screw emo teenagers!

Loli/Shota/Loli is the way Nanoha (The series) should be!

:heh:
There's quite the large chance that we'll be getting a lot about Lutecia for the next few episodes. I remember that the next Sound Stage is about a young girl going to TSAB and Nanoha.

[lightl]

i checked almost every torrent i know but can't find even the ultra LQ raw, so anyone could send me a link with pm or post it in the thread? after 2 hours of searching i just give up..

well episode 9 flv poped up on a site though personally I woudl wait for a bttter one

[Fuyu no Sora]

:heh:
There's quite the large chance that we'll be getting a lot about Lutecia for the next few episodes. I remember that the next Sound Stage is about a young girl going to TSAB and Nanoha.

Lutecia background so early on? Nah, I'm betting on Elio and Caro developing a nice love story while in vacation. Y'know "Mondial-Rushe Monogatari" :D :D :D :D

[Aaron008R]

I would as well.
Anyway, does anybody want to start speculating about the level 2 & 3 of the other devices?

I sense great promise in Strada eventually gaining a large energy blade.

@Fuyu: You intend to take Erio to Caro in Rotenburo further?:heh:

[raidou]

Lutecia background so early on? Nah, I'm betting on Elio and Caro developing a nice love story while in vacation. Y'know "Mondial-Rushe Monogatari" :D :D :D :D

as much as i would like to see Caro x Erio , this scene make me want to see Subaru more
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5895/face1wy6.th.png (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=face1wy6.png)

Look at her eyes....

I would as well.
Anyway, does anybody want to start speculating about the level 2 & 3 of the other devices?

I sense great promise in Strada eventually gaining a large energy blade.


Hmm from Spear maybe become ranged weapon instead..something like cannon? since all the device so far seems to switch to different type on next mode mode (melee<->ranged) example leviathan/Graf eisen

[Fuyu no Sora]

I would as well.
Anyway, does anybody want to start speculating about the level 2 & 3 of the other devices?

I sense great promise in Strada eventually gaining a large energy blade.

@Fuyu: You intend to take Erio to Caro in Rotenburo further?:heh:

Rotenburo? Whazzat? :confused: :heh:

@raidou: That's what I call an ice cream :heh:

[Aaron008R]

as much as i would like to see Caro x Erio , this scene make me want to see Subaru more
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5895/face1wy6.th.png (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=face1wy6.png)

Look at her eyes....



Hmm from Spear maybe become ranged weapon..something like cannon?

So they're taking the Subaru love for ice cream to the anime too. Heh, even Teana's all happy-looking now.

Ok. And maybe a blade extensions for Mach Caliber?

As for the Rotenburo, I think it's a part of a public bath. It's in the Sound Stage. Caro actually follows Erio to the 10-below section of the public baths instead of joining the other girls. Epic stuttering ensued.:D

[raidou]

So they're taking the Subaru love for ice cream to the anime too. Heh, even Teana's all happy-looking now.

Ok. And maybe a blade extensions for Mach Caliber?

@raidou: That's what I call an ice cream

that's not an ice cream :p ...
now i know why Subaru grew so fast in certain "area" , she is the exact opposite of what Konata said "when you diet you lose weight in places you dont want first" so for subaru no dieting mean gain weight in places that she wanted 1st :heh:

Aaron since you are tokusatsu fan , you should be able to picture this.What if the final mode of all the devices could be combines ala sentai series?Imagine a mini arc en Ciel

[Fuyu no Sora]

So they're taking the Subaru love for ice cream to the anime too. Heh, even Teana's all happy-looking now.

Ok. And maybe a blade extensions for Mach Caliber?

As for the Rotenburo, I think it's a part of a public bath. It's in the Sound Stage. Caro actually follows Erio to the 10-below section of the public baths instead of joining the other girls. Epic stuttering ensued.:D

OH YEAH! Sowwy, I didn't hear the whole Sound Stage ^^. But no. I intend to have them hold hands only, not another Rotenburo scene :heh: (wait till you're at least 18 would ya!? :D)

Blade extensions? How about a full metamorphosis into a full dagger? Or is it too dangerous? :heh:

EDIT: Oo? Then if it's not ice cream what is it?

[raidou]

EDIT: Oo? Then if it's not ice cream what is it?

Sorry bad choice of word , i mean that's not one ice cream ..more like a bucket of ice cream at once :p

Edit:
Btw I cant imagine what Mach caliber second form for ranged...Since i keep getting broken phantom image, but the hand detaching would be so ridiculous :heh:

[Chaos2Frozen]

One last thing before I head to school and miss out on 4 pages of this thread :heh:

Lutecia background so early on? Nah, I'm betting on Elio and Caro developing a nice love story while in vacation. Y'know "Mondial-Rushe Monogatari" :D :D :D :D

Why not both? :D

Have Lutecia gotten lost from Zest, and have her meet them up? :)

as much as i would like to see Caro x Erio , this scene make me want to see Subaru more
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5895/face1wy6.th.png (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=face1wy6.png)

Look at her eyes....



It says part 1 and part 2 right? So maybe this one would be Subaru and Teana centric while the next be Erio and Carol...



As for the Rotenburo, I think it's a part of a public bath. It's in the Sound Stage. Caro actually follows Erio to the 10-below section of the public baths instead of joining the other girls. Epic stuttering ensued.:D

Oh where should they go next... :D

[aroduc]

Meh. MEH.
Between the 4 minutes of flashback and pretty much zero action, this was easily the weakest episode of the season so far.

Not to mention the fact that everybody sees Nanoha and Fate's past and... suddenly we're not mad at them anymore! They were completely justified apparently!

Though the scenes with recovering Nanoha, especially her crawling around on the ground were a bit sad.

http://www.seiha.org/blog/?p=109

Meh says I. And meh to fucking flvs too. Ew. I feel dirty.

[Ruri]

It says part 1 and part 2 right? So maybe this one would be Subaru and Teana centric while the next be Erio and Carol...


Or it could be this one is centred on the Rookies while the next one is centred on the Aces.

[Meophist]

I just watched the episode, and well, I liked it. It was pretty nice for putting what happened in the first two series in a new light.

In any case, Chaos2Frozen, please don't do that ever again.

[Fuyu no Sora]

I just watched the episode, and well, I liked it. It was pretty nice for putting what happened in the first two series in a new light.

In any case, Chaos2Frozen, please don't do that ever again.

Nvm. Nvm.

Yeah, It's nice that they made a bit of recap in this epi ^^. Although, I insist that they should've given us more information about this 'Unknown'

[Nightengale]

This episode was okay. The whole thing came across pretty well and decently protrayed, but at the same time, it felt convenient to prevent Tea-Na-Oh from recycling. So, it's a win-lose situation for me personally regardless of how they approached, but in this case, it should be more favourable, so long as they don't instantly drop any form of insecurity and shut down Teana's character development for good in this front.

The whole explaination bit...while good in the way that the StrikerS know what the AceS did in the past... the video could go without the first few seconds prior to meeting Yuuno. And wasn't both events considered classified information? Especially on te latter Yami no Sho case. It felt way too easy that they just blew them the details of the past, even if not remotely detailed to heavy extents.

So, next week, Teana rides the ride of Shinn while Elio potentially bags the girl of Asuka? I don't mind fluffy episodes, but I hope there's some plot development in store, since I don't think we'll be getting too much of character backstories after the whole Teana affair.

[Darco_emp]

I throughts on the ep is while it did give the reason of Nanoha's injury, and cured Teana, same as last week the main forcal point is at the second half of the Ep.

As for the preview for I noticed it does say part one, so I'm guessing at the end the Rookies may ran into lutecia, thus setting for a more serious part II

[GUTB_]

You guys notice how she reverts back to her loli voice when she enters combat?

"Stars 1, iki maaaaaa~su!"

Creeped me right out. Does she see herself as a young girl at some level? Is there a mental block in there someplace that's holding some part of her psyche in stasis?

[krisslanza]

Or you know, it just sounds really cute. Loli Nanoha ftw.

[Chaos2Frozen]

I just watched the episode, and well, I liked it. It was pretty nice for putting what happened in the first two series in a new light.

In any case, Chaos2Frozen, please don't do that ever again.

Erm, you have to be more specific :heh:

You mean talking about what I think of the next episode? Or teasing the troll?


You guys notice how she reverts back to her loli voice when she enters combat?

"Stars 1, iki maaaaaa~su!"

Creeped me right out. Does she see herself as a young girl at some level? Is there a mental block in there someplace that's holding some part of her psyche in stasis?

Yes, she has a mental block in there someplace that's holding some part of her psyche in stasis.... :rolleyes:

Now go back to your deluded world, you've made Meophist mad at me already...

[shab]

Nvm. Nvm.

Yeah, It's nice that they made a bit of recap in this epi ^^. Although, I insist that they should've given us more information about this 'Unknown'

Actually they give us more then enough information. To quote "By an enemy she would have easily defeated normally", hench there is no super mage flying around ready to lay the smack down on our ace(s). D;

[Aaron008R]

You guys notice how she reverts back to her loli voice when she enters combat?

"Stars 1, iki maaaaaa~su!"

Creeped me right out. Does she see herself as a young girl at some level? Is there a mental block in there someplace that's holding some part of her psyche in stasis?

Aw, I don't know. Though quite honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way.:D
Seeing as the Aces' voices barely changed at all even after ten years, I hardly see any reason to complain. And technically, Nanoha is still relatively young. Maybe Fate's call would be more to your liking.

@Chaos: I never expected Meophist to balk at your little over dramatic spiel either.:heh:

[Fuyu no Sora]

Erm, you have to be more specific :heh:

You mean talking about what I think of the next episode? Or teasing the troll?


Yes, she has a mental block in there someplace that's holding some part of her psyche in stasis.... :rolleyes:

Now go back to your deluded world, you've made Meophist mad at me already...

He means about Elio and Caro going somewhere :heh: Honestly, I don't even wanna talk about the subject *shudders*

I back up your second statement completely. I like the way Nanoha says "Ikimaaaaasu".

[Chaos2Frozen]

He means about Elio and Caro going somewhere :heh: Honestly, I don't even wanna talk about the subject *shudders*



Oh... Okay...

...I can't keep track of all the evil things I've said :heh:

EDIT:

But if you think about it, where COULD they go? (Putting aside all unclean thoughts...)

[Nightengale]

They've been to a hotel and public bath together, so we can scratch that off. Now it's more of an issue of how to top that...

Frankly, I'm hoping one of the StrikerS or AceS get a glimpse of this "Agito" guy in the next episode or 2.

[Fuyu no Sora]

Oh... Okay...

...I can't keep track of all the evil things I've said :heh:

EDIT:

But if you think about it, where COULD they go? (Putting aside all unclean thoughts...)

The park, the sea, amusement park, the movies, y'know. You're not being very funny this time >.>

[FlareKnight]

Alright finally seen the episode so I can get into this. Honestly before GUTB was focusing on Nanoha's dark and psychological problems and now we're going her having a childish personality? Is it now a crime to have a cheerful personality? I can't tell if this guy is serious, oh well I'm more interested in the episode then that guy.

Well now we know why Signum isn't involved in training. She really follows a hard line approach even more than Vita. Pretty tough punch she laid on Teana, but I suppose after the day she's had this is just icing on the cake. Poor Nanoha being concerned but having Vita drag her into chopper anyways. I'm sure Chaos can have fun with the reason why Shamal had Teana without pants....though I'm sure it was just professional. Making sure she was alright...probably, either that or Hayate's influence has infected Shamal.

That Doctor is really creeping me out, nice of them to make him a very weird person. No doubt this guy is lining up for the dead list at some point in the series.

Poor Nanoha seeing her like that was hard. Who knew all that massive blastign could have a negative effect on her body. Guess we know why she's been sticking to the small stuff like Axel shooter. A tough lesson on using just as much power as needed for a situation. Guess it's good so if she does get into a pinch she can cut loose without being at the point where that would be too much for her body. She can't do that kind of stuff too often, but I'm sure she'll be alright. Really want to know what happened, but I guess that secret is going to be kept for another day.

Think most people will be satisfied that Nanoha and Teana got their talk. Plus Teana got the information about Nanoha's past and injuries. This could've become a serious problem if they hadn't gotten that done. Sure Nanoha would've liked to talk right away, but we had to wait for Teana to wake up then the mission came up.

Welcome back Rocket Hammer! Those drones didn't stand a chance against Vita, Nanoha, and Fate. Looks like Nanoha wanted to tell Teana the story herself, instead of letting Shari go ahead. Hilarious though seeing Erio, Caro, Subaru, and Shari all hiding in the bushes. If it wasn't innocent eavesdropping I'd say Erio would be pretty lucky to be in the bushes with all of them. That guy just gets into the most interesting situations, lucky guy. So before Teana had a blade dagger, now it's full on gunblade. Though honestly having those inward blades so close would be uncomfortable to me. Now I'm eager to see the rest of their devices released.

Next week is a good relaxing episode. Which is probably a good thing after all the tense stuff in relation to Teana. Subaru and Teana get to hang out and have fun. Apparently Subaru is quite the icecream fanatic....5 scoops at once, geeze. Also guess we'll get a small 'date' with Erio and Caro. So next week should be a field day for Chaos and his scenarios.

An important episode to get through. Really deal with the aftermath of episode 8.

[Chaos2Frozen]

They've been to a hotel and public bath together, so we can scratch that off. Now it's more of an issue of how to top that...

Frankly, I'm hoping one of the StrikerS or AceS get a glimpse of this "Agito" guy in the next episode or 2.


The park, the sea, amusement park, the movies, y'know. You're not being very funny this time >.>


The amusement park sounds like a good place for kids... Has Caro been to Mid-childa before? Cause I recall from episode 2 that she's coming from another world... So most likely Erio would be the one showing her around...

@Nightengale

Agito can be a girl's name right? (Unless Lutecia said 'he/him' ...)

@Fuyu

My bad, my bad...

Was tired from running :heh:

EDIT:

Gtg, be back in a few hours... Again

[Fuyu no Sora]

Alright finally seen the episode so I can get into this. Honestly before GUTB was focusing on Nanoha's dark and psychological problems and now we're going her having a childish personality? Is it now a crime to have a cheerful personality? I can't tell if this guy is serious, oh well I'm more interested in the episode then that guy.

Well now we know why Signum isn't involved in training. She really follows a hard line approach even more than Vita. Pretty tough punch she laid on Teana, but I suppose after the day she's had this is just icing on the cake. Poor Nanoha being concerned but having Vita drag her into chopper anyways. I'm sure Chaos can have fun with the reason why Shamal had Teana without pants....though I'm sure it was just professional. Making sure she was alright...probably, either that or Hayate's influence has infected Shamal.

That Doctor is really creeping me out, nice of them to make him a very weird person. No doubt this guy is lining up for the dead list at some point in the series.

Poor Nanoha seeing her like that was hard. Who knew all that massive blastign could have a negative effect on her body. Guess we know why she's been sticking to the small stuff like Axel shooter. A tough lesson on using just as much power as needed for a situation. Guess it's good so if she does get into a pinch she can cut loose without being at the point where that would be too much for her body. She can't do that kind of stuff too often, but I'm sure she'll be alright. Really want to know what happened, but I guess that secret is going to be kept for another day.

Think most people will be satisfied that Nanoha and Teana got their talk. Plus Teana got the information about Nanoha's past and injuries. This could've become a serious problem if they hadn't gotten that done. Sure Nanoha would've liked to talk right away, but we had to wait for Teana to wake up then the mission came up.

Welcome back Rocket Hammer! Those drones didn't stand a chance against Vita, Nanoha, and Fate. Looks like Nanoha wanted to tell Teana the story herself, instead of letting Shari go ahead. Hilarious though seeing Erio, Caro, Subaru, and Shari all hiding in the bushes. If it wasn't innocent eavesdropping I'd say Erio would be pretty lucky to be in the bushes with all of them. That guy just gets into the most interesting situations, lucky guy. So before Teana had a blade dagger, now it's full on gunblade. Though honestly having those inward blades so close would be uncomfortable to me. Now I'm eager to see the rest of their devices released.

Next week is a good relaxing episode. Which is probably a good thing after all the tense stuff in relation to Teana. Subaru and Teana get to hang out and have fun. Apparently Subaru is quite the icecream fanatic....5 scoops at once, geeze. Also guess we'll get a small 'date' with Erio and Caro. So next week should be a field day for Chaos and his scenarios.

An important episode to get through. Really deal with the aftermath of episode 8.

I think he's a Nanoha hater. Don't bother looking at the posts.

Well, at least they illuminate us a little. Thank god it seems everything will return pretty much to normal. Oh well. I take back everything I said on Tea. I guess she just went through a frantic spell back then.

EDIT: Its okay Chaos. Hm..Yeah, Elio could show her around. A nice tour would be nice afterall ^^.

[raidou]

I think he's a Nanoha hater. Don't bother looking at the posts.

Well, at least they illuminate us a little. Thank god it seems everything will return pretty much to normal. Oh well. I take back everything I said on Tea. I guess she just went through a frantic spell back then.

EDIT: Its okay Chaos. Hm..Yeah, Elio could show her around. A nice tour would be nice afterall ^^.

Am sure it will be a nice tour with some enjoyable accident :D (at least for erio :p )

@chaos..Not sure whether AGITO would fit girls name ...So far all the anime/game characters named agito have been a guy (e.g. Final fantasy, air gear, Guyver, etc).And i cant get the kamen rider face out of my head too :heh:

Btw anyone else thought that the way Dr.Orange way of giggling is a bit creepy ...maybe just the animation, it is like he is having a seizure from back view :eyespin:

[LoweGear]

While I'm quite used to the pace these threads can go after a new episode airs, too bad some of it had to be devoted to fixing some extremely flawed ideas. Moving on...

Anyways, this is an episode I really will have to see to appreciate, but already Signum, Tea and especially Nanoha should make this very interesting (seeing Nanoha in a wheelchair(?)... ouch).

And melike Cross Mirage's Mode 2, quite awesome :D

[Meophist]

Erm, you have to be more specific :heh:

You mean talking about what I think of the next episode? Or teasing the troll?Teasing the troll. I hope you can be a bit more mature than that.@Chaos: I never expected Meophist to balk at your little over dramatic spiel either.:heh:Just because he's a troll doesn't mean we should go down to his level.

[FlareKnight]

Yeah a nice tour could be interesting. Never know what kind of fun accidents could happen during that. Throw in a possible meeting with Lutecia in a normal setting. That little threesome could go around the town together, create that tension for when they all meet up in battle.

[Fuyu no Sora]

Yeah a nice tour could be interesting. Never know what kind of fun accidents could happen during that. Throw in a possible meeting with Lutecia in a normal setting. That little threesome could go around the town together, create that tension for when they all meet up in battle.

Interesting setting. Although, I don't think Lutecia would be very friendly with those two, especially if she happens to find an interest in Elio and Caro goes all 'He's mine already' :heh:

[octoberasian]

Next week is a good relaxing episode. Which is probably a good thing after all the tense stuff in relation to Teana. Subaru and Teana get to hang out and have fun. Apparently Subaru is quite the icecream fanatic....5 scoops at once, geeze. Also guess we'll get a small 'date' with Erio and Caro. So next week should be a field day for Chaos and his scenarios.An important episode to get through. Really deal with the aftermath of episode 8.

Subaru is my kind of girl: loves ice cream. We can get along real well. ^^;

Yeah, next episode:The team finally gets time for some rest and relaxation. Tea definitely needs it. Nanoha needs most especially. It looks like we'll get a nice break from all the training and action from the last few episodes.

[raidou]

Yeah a nice tour could be interesting. Never know what kind of fun accidents could happen during that. Throw in a possible meeting with Lutecia in a normal setting. That little threesome could go around the town together, create that tension for when they all meet up in battle.

Considering Zest and Agito is out on business/another affair according to Lutecia, that scenario is very possible :) since Lutecia is shown to be in the same city area too.

She might be the type who get lost without Zest to hold onto :heh:

[Serenity85]

Yeah a nice tour could be interesting. Never know what kind of fun accidents could happen during that. Throw in a possible meeting with Lutecia in a normal setting. That little threesome could go around the town together, create that tension for when they all meet up in battle.

Interesting but I dought that will happen, mostly cause Lutecia will most likely still have her device with her and Caro would claerly know she's a summoner and, put 2 and 2 together figure she's the sommoner from before. The only way it could work is if Lutecia for whatever reason doesn't have her device on her at the time^^

Still I wouldn't mind seeing this happen lol...

[kari-no-sugata]

I was quite happy with this ep. I agree with others that it's a bit weird just how much they showed of Nanoha's past. But, I guess it's one of those things we shouldn't think too deeply about.

"Once upon a time there was a ordinary little girl living in a happy ordinary life without even any knowledge of magic... but then one day..."

Skip forward a few months and Elio etc are stunned at the power blasts 9-year old Nanoha was doing. But, Nanoha continues forcing herself to ramp up her power, next due to the "Yami no Sho" incident, when she lost against Vita and came up with the cartridge solution, even though it was unstable, particularly the full-drive mode. The audio isn't too great but it seemed like Nanoha was about 11 when the "incident" occured (2 years after the start of her becoming a mage I think).


I think the people who wanted an in-depth explanation of Nanoha's reasoning, and just where Teana was going wrong will be happy with this ep. They do go into quite a bit of detail. Incidentally, as already said, Nanoha's attack was skillful enough to have done no detectable physical damage to Teana - however, Teana slept until past 9pm because she hasn't been getting enough sleep lately.

However, I don't think Nanoha gave a direct explanation of why she told Subaru to watch carefully, when she did that 2nd shot on Teana.

Next week is the 1st part of a two-part "day off"... what goes wrong I wonder, to make it a two parter?

[Fuyu no Sora]

Next week is the 1st part of a two-part "day off"... what goes wrong I wonder, to make it a two parter?

Probably a meeting with Lutecia Team, working for Spaghetti and trying to get some more data on 'the children from Project F' *shrugs*

[Meophist]

Given how MGLN was in the past, Part II should be a very interesting episode.

[FlareKnight]

It'd be pretty strange I guess if Caro didn't notice that Lutecia was a summoner. Though it would be interesting if they could make it work, rather than have Erio get separated from Caro and hang out with Lutecia for a while. Though I know we're all still waiting for the island episode :). Whatever happens it would be interesting, poor Lutecia getting lost and Erio being the kind knight coming to her rescue. Be even better if she was getting harassed and he jumped in there to help. Too many ways for this to happen to pick one.

Good time for a day off though. Everyone getting pushed pretty hard the last few episodes. Can't wait to see what makes a par 2 necessary. Maybe the two groups (Erio/Caro) and (Teana/Subaru) running possibly into some gadgets or the Lutecia team. Should be a good one regardless of what happens.