View Full Version : Favorite Character in Claymore
NoSanninWa
2007-06-08, 23:05
Vote for your favourite character in Claymore. You have only 1 vote. Use it wisely since once it has been cast, you cannot come back to change it. The poll is public, so votes will be visible to everyone.
There will be more characters appearing as the series progresses, but these are the only characters who have appeared by episode 10 of the anime. If another character appears in a future episode whom you prefer, then you should just vote for your favorite of these characters. Eventually there will be a second favorite character poll which will include every character in the series. I'd also ask you to be nice if there is a character you don't like *cough*Raki*cough*Priscilla*cough* because someone may like them. If you don't like someone, just vote for another.
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Can't beat Teresa of the Faint Smile. Power, beauty, and grace.
NoSanninWa
2007-06-08, 23:21
Theresa does seem to be the whole package.
I would also like to thank Pellissier for providing the images that illustrate this poll. I think it makes things a lot nicer than just a name.
Tempest35
2007-06-08, 23:29
Very nice touch on the visual aids. :D But this makes it all the harder for me...so very hard...Irene-dono...the elf ears and that ultra-cool fascade - kakkoii. Noel-chan...I don't even know why I like her so much but she seems so squeezable. :heh: Miria...*sigh* Then there's Helen and Deneve...;_;
...*finally picks one* MIRIA! *huffs* ...
Should also make a 'Claymore who needs a hug the most' list too. A gag list of course... "Le Crazed One' should be numero uno on that one. XD
Justice Knight
2007-06-09, 00:03
irene rocks,flash sword is my favourite ever since i watch bleach. * BLINK* u're dead
Twisted Reality
2007-06-09, 00:14
Irene. Calm composure (not simply tight-lipped), maturity and wisdom. She possesses an honest self-assessment of her own strengths. I've never seen her make needlessly stupid tactical decisions and she's also a better leader than most. What's not to like? She also pulls an excellent "badass Sensei" act.
Her patented SPESHUL technique also pretty well represents her character. Let one arm go berserk with a full-blast of Yoma power without ever losing an ounce of control or stamina. That's pretty hardcore. I think it is fitting that her power actually is a result of her Zen-like demeanor.
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Ophelia (who we will be seeing pretty soon) runs a good second for me for being so ardently bloodthirsty and playful at the same time. Her passion runs in the same good traditions as characters like Kefka or any mad-scientist character you've seen in anime. They all possess a child-like glee and passion for one thing, and one thing only, to the exclusion of such things as the consideration of the value of human life. You've gotta envy them for being able to make fun for themselves when they're bored...such as tampering with the natural order of the universe or simply inventing arbitrarily cruel punishment games.
dutchman
2007-06-09, 00:33
I voted Teresa.
Because I really liked how she is presented. A strong but lonesome warrior feared and respected by her peers. Who slays yoma with no release of power while wearing an enigmatic smile.
Due to the love she shares with a small human girl (Chibi Clare) she regains her humanity. But in the end this love is the cause of her downfall.
It was hard to decide since I like Clare and Galetea also :heh:
rei_lied
2007-06-09, 01:17
I'm torn between Teresa, Galatea and Miria. I like Miria because she has the brains while Galatea has the beauty. And they are both powerful. But I guess my vote goes for Teresa. Beaty, brains and power all in one.
It's understandable to do the poll now, but my REAL favorite character will take 3-4 more episodes to show up ;)
Riful
Maybe you can make a second popularity poll after ep20!
khryoleoz
2007-06-09, 01:48
Even though I do like Riful a lot (and I really do hear Yukana when imagining her speak), I have a fondness for characters who are plot devices of a righteous constitution, especially those who are primary catalysts to the development of a main character. And here, they made her the most gorgeous and elegant of all Claymores. So this vote goes to the beloved Teresa.
I'll also pre-empt the idea that Clare is actually the one who affected Teresa towards her change. This is true, but within the context of the larger plot, Teresa is why our protagonist, Clare, is driven to suffer the fate of all Claymores.
NoSanninWa
2007-06-09, 02:17
As stated in my first post there will eventually be another popularity contest. In the meantime, please don't discuss characters who haven't appeared in the anime. They really don't belong in this thread.
As stated in my first post there will eventually be another popularity contest.
Hmm, I wonder how long it'd take before the favorite awakened poll pops up?
Anyway, I was torn between Teresa, Irene, Miria, and Galatea but I eventually settled for Teresa for her skills, compassion, and bravery. Besides, I don't think we'll see another "regular" claymore take on #2 - #5 single-handedly.
Pellissier
2007-06-09, 03:45
I've replaced the poll pics of Noel, Sophia, Miria and Deneve with hopefully better ones (though I still hope to find something better for Deneve in episode 11).
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As for the poll, I like Clare a lot but I voted Teresa.
I think that her class, elegance, carriage and manners were the real incomparable things, along with her yoki sensing power and that gently soothing smile. :)
killer3000ad
2007-06-09, 04:09
GAH ! I am the only one who voted Galatea? Oh well, when she starts showing her stuff later in the series i expect her popularity to get a huge jump.
HinaThePrince
2007-06-09, 04:35
My love for Clare, Deneve, Helen, Irene, manga!Raki and pretty much everyone else is endless, but... Teresa was one of the earliest characters, and she's is a kickass sadistic bitch with a heart of marshmallow. So if I had to choose one, that'd be her.
I feel kind of sorry for Raki, though.
chrry370
2007-06-09, 05:01
Teresa all the way although i do like Clare and Miria...
All in one package, yep Teresa still no 1 in my books!
At this point in time (episode 10) I'd have to say Clare. Though Teresa was very close. I like Clare a little more. Especially in episode 10 where she surprised everybody with her 'power' -- I knew she had it in her. =p
SimplyEd
2007-06-09, 05:42
I voted for Clare, plain and simple.
I was torn on Teresa,Clare and Miria..this was by no means an easy decision.
In the end i'm confident that with supporting Clare, i also express my honour for Teresas legacy. As for Miria... i love her lots too^^
Finally, a poll!
My vote is only for Miria - even in manga or anime, love her overall personality, and intel <33
NightbatŪ
2007-06-09, 08:05
Can't beat Teresa of the Faint Smile. Power, beauty, and grace.
Not to mention she puts out:D
Are these all the characters we will see during it's run?
killer3000ad
2007-06-09, 08:12
Naw, assuming the anime continues to follow the manga there are a bunch more to come, but saying anymore would be spoilerish.
I likee Miria, very nice personality, very wise :)
Negativedark
2007-06-09, 08:53
This was hard for me to pick just one, but then I decided this is only going to the events of episode 10, I'd vote for who was my favorate then. And that of course was the embodiment of elegence, beauty, strength and love. Witch means Teresa.
Claire is a second, due to her development as main charecter.
Third is Rubel for bieng a sneaky guy in black and glasses.
I like Galatea, Miria and Clare. Teresa was great but she died too early, and too fast T_T. Voted for Galatea.
Teresa/Clare1415
2007-06-09, 10:36
Teresa is my #1. Then comes Clare. I like all the Claymores really.
I had decided not to vote for Teresa and vote for Clare instead, but I gave in . The only thing I can say in my defense is the Teresa’s avatar was so awesome I couldn’t resist .
Also Kudos to NSW for designing and implementing such a fine poll. Apart from looking good it does help to, relate the name with the face. I do believe its the first for AS and hope there are many more to come
For the whole series (judging by the manga)- Clare wins HANDS DOWN, but for the earlier episodes (since that is where we've arrived at) I have had to vote for Teresa :)
I voted for Miss Claymore aka Galatea :)
Tough choice between Teresa and Miria... for now the vote goes to Teresa. Not sure after the series ends...
vietpimp
2007-06-09, 18:22
It has to be Rifful (o_O) but since she is not one of the choice I'll pick Raki since he has no vote at all poor kid.
ashesatdusk
2007-06-09, 18:42
Miria, followed by theresa, and clare for me...
hao-sama
2007-06-09, 20:25
I voted for Teresa, followed by Irene-san & Galatea. But why aren't Riful or Ophelia in? They were in the opening song.
Negativedark
2007-06-09, 20:32
Because they haven't even been named in the show yet. Even naming them would be a spoiler. To say nothing of giving reasons why you voted them.
Ya know, I find it highly amusing that a character with only one fight under her belt so far (in the manga only, no less) has so many fans. Why the devotion to Galatea? For that matter, why the devotion to Teresa? She's dead, and she went out like a sucker.
R.
TinyRedLeaf
2007-06-10, 01:02
Teresa is an obvious favourite, but she's not mine. She's the most naturally gifted of all the warriors we've seen so far, no doubt, but I'm the sort of person who isn't easily impressed by pure talent alone.
Clare is the main character. You'd almost have to choose her by default. Plucky warrior who never gives up -- you rock, girl! But you don't have my vote. Not yet. :p
My vote goes to Miria. I admire leadership ability above all other qualities. Teresa may have been the best, but she had always been a loner who only looked out for herself (at least until Clare came along).
Miria, on the other hand, is someone who knows how to bring out the best from those under her command. Under her leadership, even the meekest warrior becomes a force to be reckoned with. That, to me, is the true definition of "cool". :cool:
Auggh, I'm used to multiple choice polls. But my anguish at having to choose only one character is muted by the beauty of the thumbnail character images.
I voted for Sophia--forgive me, Rubel! It was a tough choice. That nice black outfit certainly weighed in your favor; apparently being immune to aging also grants you "coolness" points. However, Sophia won me over with her charming character contrast to Noel and her voice acting.
Rubel was my second choice; Teresa was probably my third. I'd probably vote differently if this were for the manga.
I suppose...I have a weakness for bit characters. My enthusiasm for characters who show up often becomes weak as I become used to them; they can't appear awesome all the time. The characters who only show up for a short while--but have a certain allure during that time--leave me with a brief but strong impression of "awesome!" that does not become diluted by constant appearances (i.e. Sophia; Rubel). I suppose that's also why I like martyred characters. My last impression of them is "awesome!", and that never gets corrupted with later scenes because they're dead and don't get anymore scenes. Hohoho.
I had to go with Clare.
Granted, I'm basing this more on my experience with the Manga, soo..
It was a three-way tie between Clare, Helen, and Miria for me. I opted for Clare, just because she managed to shut everyone up about her being weak when they took on the Awakened Being.
Twisted Reality
2007-06-10, 01:36
I just sort of laugh when beauty is listed as a reason for liking a Claymore. I mean come on, they've all got svelte hourglass figures and nicely chiseled facial features. And they're all blonds with silver eyes. It's really, really, really hard to try and make case for one being uglier than another.
EDIT: Hmm...when I look at those pictures, a lot of them really look like they'd rather skewer you then say "Hello."
zato_1one
2007-06-10, 01:59
I just sort of laugh when beauty is listed as a reason for liking a Claymore. I mean come on, they've all got svelte hourglass figures and nicely chiseled facial features. And they're all blonds with silver eyes. It's really, really, really hard to try and make case for one being uglier than another.
EDIT: Hmm...when I look at those pictures, a lot of them really look like they'd rather skewer you then say "Hello."
May be hair style or elf's ears. :heh:
It's harder to choose when sees character image. Base on my taste only, I may choose between Irene or Galatea. I love elf ears and Galatea's hair. Galatea is the most beautiful, imo. :p
But Teresa... She makes me love this series and become Claytard. So no doubt, she is my favorite of all time. :) Next poll I will choose my second favorite then.
TinyRedLeaf
2007-06-10, 02:11
If this were a poll on the most beautiful warrior so far, Miss Claymore Galatea has my vote for sure. :D
No offence to Teresa of course, but she's six feet under already. No wait, she's inside Clare..... :heh:
But Teresa... She makes me love this series and become Claytard. So no doubt, she is my favorite of all time. :) Next poll I will choose my second favorite then. Yeah I reckon the Teresa arc probably brought in a lot of Claymore fans... me included. My favorite 3 will be Teresa > Clare > Miria in descending order. Btw, I hear Galatea being called Miss Claymore occasionally, is there a reason for it?
Ya know, I find it highly amusing that a character with only one fight under her belt so far (in the manga only, no less) has so many fans. Why the devotion to Galatea?
Because she's hot and vain aka Miss Claymore ;)
David_The_Gnome
2007-06-10, 12:17
The thing I find most refreshing about claymore is the use of an all female cast as the main characters. And you don't get any of those annoying girlie girl characters you find in every other anime. Not even a single one (except for maybe Raki...).
It's a tough choice between Helen, Galatea, and Teresa.
Helen because, c'mon she seems like the perpetually naughty type; she'll rape Raki in a heartbeat. Galatea since she's the glamour girl. She doesn't really do anything except stand thee and be eye-candy.
But I'll have to go with Teresa on this one. Being hot and a tragic heroine just works damn well.
Note: Yes I'm vain. But hell, notice how Deneve and Noel are the only claymores without a vote so far?
Claymore_Obsessed
2007-06-10, 13:58
My vote goes to Helen, love @ first sight
her facial expressions are awesome, and she adds witty (?) sentences too ^^
NightbatŪ
2007-06-10, 15:19
I'll leave my vote open till the end of the series
I'd like to see some more characterbuilding before making a choice
I kinda liked Irene, but the only thing she'll be developping is maggots and fungi
I hate rooting for a dead (wo)man
Goofus Maximus
2007-06-10, 17:00
I voted for Helen too, but I've read manga spoilers, so I got a head-start at liking the one who would poke a proverbial hornet's nest, just because she was bored.
She's overflowing with personality, that one! :D That may be why I have her as my avatar! :D :D
Anh_Minh
2007-06-10, 17:10
Taking into account only the anime, I'll go with Theresa. I think I'll eventually like Miria more, but for now, Theresa.
Of course, by that time, there'll be another character that'll be my favorite. She hasn't appeared yet, though. :\
my vote goes to teresa :)
toxic_trance
2007-06-12, 13:56
No doubt teresa-sama is THE BEST there..but still..Clare gets my vote. She is simple, and really nice hearted. She is still a child in her heart carrying a lot of pain and suffering. Her determination to take on Priscilla is truly worth praising. She is never afraid of any power no matter big it is.
She is also not a female who was blessed with powers. She is a hard-working girl who has dedicated her life to helping all those who helped her once. Trully a remarkable character and a VERY GOOD LOOKING one at that. May u be succesful in ur endeavours
Kanchigai suruna but Clare is definitely my fav
hirahira
2007-06-12, 20:24
I voted for Miria. I guess Helen would be 2nd and Clare 3rd and Noel 4th. I don't really like any of the others lol
Clare is 1/4 Teresa, so every 4 votes Teresa gets is equal to one vote for Clare . I take Clare and Teresa as one entity there is no contest between them .
Teresa gets my vote because of her dense appearance, that illustrate every good thing about her in a very short period. In the long run, that will possibly change, as another character dominates in many of those aspects that made Teresa my current favorite.
Twisted Reality
2007-06-12, 22:15
I'll leave my vote open till the end of the series
I'd like to see some more characterbuilding before making a choice
I kinda liked Irene, but the only thing she'll be developping is maggots and fungi
I hate rooting for a dead (wo)man
Let's not be so fatalistic, Irene, unlike Noel or Sophia, was never actually explicitly shown to be skewered through the head in episode 8. Rather, she lost an arm and was gashed something nasty before being left to die.
Clare is 1/4 Teresa, so every 4 votes Teresa gets is equal to one vote for Clare . I take Clare and Teresa as one entity there is no contest between them .I doubt that is the case. I believe, what Clare got directly from Teresa, is the physical attributes of her, and that is partially. But, what makes Teresa a first choice, for many (just my guess, though), is a combination of her intelligence, beauty, strengths, etc., and Clare received less than 1/4 of those, if you accumulate all of those aspects of her.
Twisted Reality
2007-06-12, 22:41
I doubt that is the case. I believe, what Clare got directly from Teresa, is the physical attributes of her, and that is partially. But, what makes Teresa a first choice, for many (just my guess, though), is a combination of her intelligence, beauty, strengths, etc., and Clare received less than 1/4 of those, if you accumulate all of those aspects of her.
I don't know where people keep getting intelligence from, not to say that Teresa is particularly stupid, but I've never seen anything prove that she was particularly brilliant either.
I will, however, grant, that she tends to be more refined or elegant than some of the other Claymores. For example, Helen is a whiner, I wanted her to shut up about how having Clare tag along would drag her down (she would go on and on...). And many other Claymores tend to run the gamut of cocky, arrogant and bloodthirsty. Teresa started out as mockingly aloof with a cruel streak. She doesn't have to prove herself to anyone, she's #1 after all. A soaring eagle, if you would.
But let's not confuse elegance with intelligence, hmm?
I voted for Teresa too ( Refer Page 2 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=48919&page=2) ) and my favorite character is Teresa in this poll due to her strength and skill .
In terms of character inner strength and conviction to defend what’s right they are mirror images of each other or the twin goddesses . Clare acts unusually cold and shut herself off from the rest of the world that’s deliberate . As Raki said Clare is the kindest soul he has known . The impassiveness is to hide that kindness and copulate hatred for Priscilla.
Clare only lives for revenge and now Raki . The reason why Clare chose to become a Claymore was for mainly vengeance . That’s why Raki’s role is important its due to him Clare doesn’t get engulfed in vengeance . Raki is the balance , he connects Clare to humanity.
And yes to me this is not debatable Sazelyt if you do plan to argue for the sake of arguing Take it to PM
I don't know where people keep getting intelligence from, not to say that Teresa is particularly stupid, but I've never seen anything prove that she was particularly brilliant either.For me, the way she developed and used her skills says a lot about her intelligence.
And yes to me this is not debatable Sazelyt if you do plan to argue for the sake of arguing Take it to PMNo need to. However, if someone gives a reason from a percentage point of view, and if that amount happens to be an inaccurate representation of what is being compared, then, someone is bound to reply to comment on that mistake, sooner or later. Guess, it happened sooner rather than later...
Miss Claymore needs more votes!
Twisted Reality
2007-06-12, 23:27
For me, the way she developed and used her skills says a lot about her intelligence.
The evidence would show that she's at least a talented athlete and well...a warrior, but not necessarily a brilliant tactician or thinker. Certainly she's not a scholar, so we have no proof that she'd be a good one. She's may be smarter than average, but there's no way of testing that and it's hardly relevant anyway. There's also nothing to indicate that her talent is anything more than highly-developed instinct...such as sayyy...passing a football...and that's knowledge, not intelligence.
Her only tactic so far, as I've seen, is to simply fight toe-to-toe with a mocking smirk and blinding acrobatics or hide because of superior numbers (as with the hunter-killer team sent after her). But the hiding part is what a lot of animals do instinctually. In Teresa's case, this could simply be an indication of her discretion, judgment or experience. None of this means she's necessarily smarter than your average Claymore, Yoma or human.
Twisted Reality
2007-06-12, 23:33
Miss Claymore needs more votes!
Who is Miss Claymore? There are a lot of missuses who happen to be Claymores.
... not necessarily a brilliant tactician or thinker. She's may be smarter than average, but there's no way of testing that and it's hardly relevant anyway. There's also nothing to indicate that her talent is anything more than highly-developed instinct...such as sayyy...passing a football...and that's knowledge, not intelligence.The way you consider intelligence is just a part of the general meaning it carries. We haven't seen enough from her to decide how good she was as a tactician, but, what we saw from her, and her being ranked as the first among the other ranked claymores, and achieving that status not as an actual demon, but as the more human version of those warriors says she should be clearly above the average in the tactics area.
Second, the way she developed her skills, by studying and analysing the effects of her abilities, and what they are affected by, cannot be achieved by a regular claymore. To process that information and integrate with her talents successfully, she should have some admirable level of intelligence.
Yes, she may not be the most intelligent claymore, but she should be close to the higher intelligent ones rather than the average ones...And, that is still enough to consider her as an intelligent claymore regardless of the level she is associated with.
Twisted Reality
2007-06-13, 00:01
The way you consider intelligence is just a part of the general meaning it carries. We haven't seen enough from her to decide how good she was as a tactician, but, what we saw from her, and her being ranked as the first among the other ranked claymores, and achieving that status not as an actual demon, but as the more human version of those warriors says she should be clearly above the average in the tactics area.
Second, the way she developed her skills, by studying and analysing the effects of her abilities, and what they are affected by, cannot be achieved by a regular claymore. To process that information and integrate with her talents successfully, she should have some admirable level of intelligence.
Yes, she may not be the most intelligent claymore, but she should be close to the higher intelligent ones rather than the average ones...And, that is still enough to consider her as an intelligent claymore regardless of the level she is associated with.
Much better, thank you.
Twisted Reality
2007-06-13, 00:21
It's understandable to do the poll now, but my REAL favorite character will take 3-4 more episodes to show up ;)
Riful
Maybe you can make a second popularity poll after ep20!
Having just gotten my grubby hands on a copy of Claymore #8. I can see why you'd pick her.
She forces Yoma to cooperate and commands the loyalty of a big bruiser of an Awakened One who actually manages to use clever tricks. And then she bothers to put on the "sweet precocious little girl" act.
You'd have to be insane to mess with her.
Who is Miss Claymore? There are a lot of missuses who happen to be Claymores.
Galatea = Miss Claymore.
chibamonster
2007-06-13, 10:45
Teresa at this point in the anime. She is what really sold me on the series. When we first met her she was a smiling killing machine. I loved how she terrified people intentionally almost for fun. Like when she told them what would happen if they didn't pay. I like that she didn't accept clare at all in the beggining. When she said she was going to kick her she did kick her. She almost leaves her for dead. Even after their bonding moment she still leaves Clare in a town with no promise of ever seeing her again. She had every intention of leaving things the way they were.
I love the instant she turns around and says she will kill every single one of the bandits. She doesn't lie. She doesn't have to. Then the fight between her and 2-5 was incredible. She reminded me a lot of Jean Reno in Leon: the Professional which is one of my favorite movies. She also reminds me of Denzel Washington in Man on Fire. Oh the power of a little girls love! Teresa's death was just so unfair that it caught me off guard and I thought about it a lot. Romi Paku's raspy voice certainly helped her character as well.
Negativedark
2007-06-13, 12:11
Speaking of Teresa here's something I noticed reading the Manga. No need for spoilers, as all this would have been animated already.
When we first meet Teresa, she cleans the blood off her sword by swinging it in the air, and splattering anyone who happens to be nearby. After meeting and traveling with Claire for a while, she begins to instead clean her sword by banging it on the ground. No look at how Claire cleans her sword. She bangs it on the ground. I wonder if she picked that up from Teresa.
lakiaboy
2007-06-13, 12:25
I vote for Teresa.I love the name, her character development, all of her! Thou I think Galatea is more beautiful of all the claymore that I know but I like teresa inner beauty, a motherly sisterly love alike And she is the 1ST #1 claymore who has not awakened (she pwnz early...yeah due to pity)
sorry I don't know how to describe... pardon me my poor english~:D
RIP teresa & kamina
hollywoodlou
2007-06-15, 02:08
A majority here voted for Teresa...maybe we should write the creator-sama to resurrect her like Ripley in Aliens.
It will be interesting to see the results of a new poll after the anime series is finished.
FatPianoBoy
2007-06-15, 02:31
It will be interesting to see the results of a new poll after the anime series is finished.
I have a feeling it'll be twice this size...
Some non-manga readers might vote for Galatea, since as of now she's had roughly a minute of screen time.
Bloodseeker
2007-06-15, 06:51
I was tempted to wait to see more of Miria before I voted, since I'm generally partial towards the really smart mentor types, but I doubt that she's going to surpass the awesomeness of Teresa in episodes 6, 7, and 8 anytime soon...
New poll will be better wait until more new(important) characters appear on anime. Although I bet Teresa will remain favourite.:argue::joke:
NoSanninWa
2007-06-15, 13:44
New poll will be better wait until more new(important) characters appear on anime. Although I bet Teresa will remain favourite.:argue::joke:As stated earlier in this thread, the next poll probably won't be until episode 20 or so. I'm sure that manga readers know what story arc will finally spawn that poll.
LilleNisse
2007-06-15, 14:41
Helen is my favorit. She is like a female version of me with that personality. Can't stop loving that girl :heh:
But thats just sofar, might chance later on when we get to see abit more :rolleyes:
Helen has a sharp tongue hehe :D:D
LilleNisse
2007-06-16, 18:11
Helen has a sharp tongue hehe :D:D
That's what I like about her. Sharp tongue and the "right" word at the "right" time :heh:
Melodymix
2007-06-16, 19:11
It was either Teresa or Clare but I voted for Clare. Since I don't follow the manga I want to se where her character development is heading
Panzerklein
2007-06-17, 10:47
I vote for Helen, it see only 5 ones like her ;)) .
Goofus Maximus
2007-06-17, 11:48
Those who've read ahead in the manga probably like her more than the anime folks who haven't seen much of her yet. Like Riful, Helen is a card. Unlike Riful though, Helen isn't evil! :D She's just rowdy! Look over in the "favorite quotes" thread, to see my favorite quote from Helen, the eternal "foot-in-mouth" Claymore!
mooncanvas
2007-06-17, 22:56
This was from another thread, but I thought it'd be more appropriate to answer here
Galatea personality would seems to suggest that she is like a court lady, elegant and sophisticated belle of high order. Like someone pointed, she is based on Greek mythology of a perfect lady in every sense. This would suggest the author intended to make her that way and in future episodes, she will be something a dichotomy. A highly exalted beauty who seem out of place with Claymore business. Galatea feels like a supermodel who actually have proficiency to pick up AK-47 and good with it.
Theresa, while beautiful, she is more practical and never considered how she look. She has the down to earth persona, a kind of girl from next door feel.
How I see Teresa is that she has the purity of a Goddess and the serenity of the Virgin Mary, while Galatea has the elegance and refinement of a Queen, and teh hawtness of a Supermodel.
lakiaboy
2007-06-17, 23:13
This was from another thread, but I thought it'd be more appropriate to answer here
How I see Teresa is that she has the purity of a Goddess and the serenity of the Virgin Mary, while Galatea has the elegance and refinement of a Queen, and teh hawtness of a Supermodel.
yeah, that's right! That's how I want to describe about Teresa and Galatea actually but I don't know how, thanks to you ;) Both have their own beauty that depends which one you prefer.
stormy001_M1A2
2007-06-18, 05:03
My fave will be someone yet to be featured, no 8 Flora. Too bad she bought farm in Northern Campaign.
killer3000ad
2007-06-18, 06:43
My fave will be someone yet to be featured, no 8 Flora. Too bad she bought farm in Northern Campaign.
Ahh true that, I wish she'd lived instead of Yuma, in which case I would have put Flora a close second behind Galatea as my favourite.
stormy001_M1A2
2007-06-18, 07:04
So both of us liked glamorous super model chicks who kills. Hahahahahaha!
I also liked the cool elegance of Irene or Ilena. Guess I will put vote for her.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-18, 23:23
Is there any chance in the future that ONE character will overtake Teresa's popularity?
I think not. Just like Elvis, some people become legends upon death.
NoSanninWa
2007-06-18, 23:40
It's really hard to surpass a dead girl.
FatPianoBoy
2007-06-19, 00:06
Nah, Teresa would be just as wonderful were she still around; possibly even moreso.
RIP perfection :sad:
hollywoodlou
2007-06-19, 00:15
Nah, Teresa would be just as wonderful were she still around; possibly even moreso.
RIP perfection :sad:
absolutely...she'd be the leader of the claymores. The hottest of the hot. :p
EasyPrey
2007-06-19, 00:33
I agree that there is *no way* anyone could surpass Tressa in this poll.
Lets see:
Tressa may have started looking like a monster. But we learned that dispite the cold outer shell, she was truly a kind person. All her early attempts to get rid of Clare were (from her perspective) would have resulted in a better life for Clare.
Tressa knew who she was and what she did for a living. Tressa knew she could not afford to have a "weakness" and therefore, never got attached to anyone. Even her "scare the town people" speech was for the betterment of the town folks. Think about it, what if the town never paid? What would have happened to them in the future? Tressa's comments at the end of the day would inspire the town to pay for the service they received. Wouldn't that make the town a safer place for human?
We know that Clare is the only Claymore that volunteered to be one. That would imply that all the other Claymores were "volunteered" by someone else. :(
In manga, we learned that Tressa was taken against her will (at an early age). She was subject to painful "experiments", in the process of turning her into a Claymore.
Tressa (at an early age) swore revenge against the org for doing turning her into a "monster".
She was a woman of her word. She gave her word to Clare that she was not going to abandon her during the night. She was not the kind of person who would resort to lying.
Oh yeah, the most important point, she dedicated her life to protect Clare. What more could you ask of her?
Finally, she is dead. You cannot surpass dead people in polls. It is truly hard to say bad things about dead people. That is why, it is so hard to win against a dead person in the polls.
-EasyPrey
PS. I voted for Galatea. Because: (i) Sometimes good looks can outweigh good character. <evil smile> (ii) Never been a conformist. :)
hollywoodlou
2007-06-19, 02:36
I agree that there is *no way* anyone could surpass Tressa in this poll.
PS. I voted for Galatea. Because: (i) Sometimes good looks can outweigh good character. <evil smile> (ii) Never been a conformist. :)
ummm...All of the claymores are good looking though.:)
Negativedark
2007-06-19, 09:02
Well when we get to the second poll my vote will be different. Although it'll be real hard for me to choose.
Goofus Maximus
2007-06-19, 12:16
I voted for Helen as "Miss Genki". Of the entire bunch, she seems to have the most extroverted personality of them all. She annoys her way right into people's hearts! :D
Looks aren't everything, when it comes to picking a favorite charactor! As has been stated, they all look pretty good. Strict diet and lots of excercise will keep them stylish good looks, I guess...
NightbatŪ
2007-06-19, 16:05
Looks aren't everything, when it comes to picking a favorite charactor! As has been stated, they all look pretty good. Strict diet and lots of excercise will keep them stylish good looks, I guess...
Except Priscilla, after she got depressed, man did her figure go to hell, heard
she went on a feedingfrenzy :p
stormy001_M1A2
2007-06-19, 18:27
"Live by the sword, die by the sword". That is the ethos of Claymore.
Twisted Reality
2007-06-19, 19:08
Except Priscilla, after she got depressed, man did her figure go to hell, heard
she went on a feedingfrenzy :p
I dunno, hawt demon chick might be up some people's alleyway.
Also, no love for Noel? Even her counterpart Helen has two votes. I personally prefer her scrappy limberness to Helen's "strength."
NightbatŪ
2007-06-19, 19:29
I dunno, hawt demon chick might be up some people's alleyway.
Yeah, but "going out to dinner" in her words means you are on the menu
When she starts nibbeling on your ear (or 'other' bodyparts:heh:) who knows where she'll stop?
"Man-eater" indeed
Ofcourse getting a Claymore too exited means you're gonna get FUBAR as well
(but some little eerie man from the organisation orbiting both of you as chapperone
would kill any mood you'll try to create anyway)
pushpaka
2007-06-19, 19:48
We know that Clare is the only Claymore that volunteered to be one. That would imply that all the other Claymores were "volunteered" by someone else. :(
In manga, we learned that Tressa was taken against her will (at an early age). She was subject to painful "experiments", in the process of turning her into a Claymore.
Tressa (at an early age) swore revenge against the org for doing turning her into a "monster".
Where did you get this? The only thing we find out about her past (from the Viz editions so far) is that she used to have black hair - the feature she was proudest of, and she had dark eyes. The Organization gave her the choice of be a Claymore or wind up on the streets as a beggar. In the downloaded translations, we see that Teresa as a young girl met a certain somebody...
hollywoodlou
2007-06-20, 01:05
We know that Clare is the only Claymore that volunteered to be one. That would imply that all the other Claymores were "volunteered" by someone else. :(
In manga, we learned that Tressa was taken against her will (at an early age). She was subject to painful "experiments", in the process of turning her into a Claymore.
Tressa (at an early age) swore revenge against the org for doing turning her into a "monster".
Where did you get this? The only thing we find out about her past (from the Viz editions so far) is that she used to have black hair - the feature she was proudest of, and she had dark eyes. The Organization gave her the choice of be a Claymore or wind up on the streets as a beggar. In the downloaded translations, we see that Teresa as a young girl met a certain somebody...
what volume and chapter was that?
EasyPrey
2007-06-20, 02:22
what volume and chapter was that?
I don't have the manga handy right now, since I am traveling. I will be back in USA in early July.
However, that should be easy to find. It is in Tressa of the Faint Smile arch. There is a chapter (don't remember which one), that is on page one or two of it. Here you have a flashback. The background is all black and you just have words. These words could only belong to either Tressa or Clare.
It would be obvious that Clare never spoke those words (since she actually volunteered to be a Claymore). That leaves those words to be of Tressa.
Look through the Tressa of the Faint Smile arch, you will find that page. :)
-EasyPrey
PS. I am referencing the Japanese Manga scanlation. That is the only version I have read.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-20, 02:48
I don't have the manga handy right now, since I am traveling. I will be back in USA in early July.
However, that should be easy to find. It is in Tressa of the Faint Smile arch. There is a chapter (don't remember which one), that is on page one or two of it. Here you have a flashback. The background is all black and you just have words. These words could only belong to either Tressa or Clare.
It would be obvious that Clare never spoke those words (since she actually volunteered to be a Claymore). That leaves those words to be of Tressa.
Look through the Tressa of the Faint Smile arch, you will find that page. :)
-EasyPrey
PS. I am referencing the Japanese Manga scanlation. That is the only version I have read.
I copied my files to an external hd and accidentally sent some of the manga dl's over there as well. My favorite character Teresa...who would forget her.
pushpaka
2007-06-20, 11:49
ummm...All of the claymores are good looking though.:)
Hmm... well... umm...
That new #5 Claymore in Volume 13, is ugly! I think NegativeDark once described Dauf as looking like a shaved ape in human form - well this "girl" looks like Dauf's dumpier kid sister. Kinda fitting that she's a bruiser.
pushpaka
2007-06-20, 11:52
I dunno, hawt demon chick might be up some people's alleyway.
Also, no love for Noel? Even her counterpart Helen has two votes. I personally prefer her scrappy limberness to Helen's "strength."
Er, the "ape" is Sophie not Helen. Just a nitpick
pushpaka
2007-06-20, 11:56
I don't have the manga handy right now, since I am traveling. I will be back in USA in early July.
However, that should be easy to find. It is in Tressa of the Faint Smile arch. There is a chapter (don't remember which one), that is on page one or two of it. Here you have a flashback. The background is all black and you just have words. These words could only belong to either Tressa or Clare.
It would be obvious that Clare never spoke those words (since she actually volunteered to be a Claymore). That leaves those words to be of Tressa.
Look through the Tressa of the Faint Smile arch, you will find that page. :)
-EasyPrey
PS. I am referencing the Japanese Manga scanlation. That is the only version I have read.
Okay, got'cha. The Viz version has Teressa reminiscing about the pain of getting cut open and the loss of her black hair. She's not happy with what the Organization has done, but she holds no real beef with them
Blackula_Jonez
2007-06-20, 13:28
Theresa ftw, granted the series it at its halfway mark, granted she did get awakened being 'owned she put up a hell of a fight
hollywoodlou
2007-06-21, 02:18
Just as I thought, Teresa will never die in this thread..:)
Next poll Miss Claymore is going for the #2 spot!
Panzerklein
2007-06-21, 02:56
Noone vote for "Chirsmas" :D while even Rubel have 1 voted.
Goofus Maximus
2007-06-21, 06:50
I notice someone finally gave Deneve some voting love. I think Helen outshines her by far, though! ;)
killer3000ad
2007-06-21, 08:55
Next poll Miss Claymore is going for the #2 spot!
Amen to that brotha!
NoSanninWa
2007-06-21, 15:56
I'm not so certain. In the next poll there are going to be 2 new strong competitors vying to steal the title of "Miss Claymore" from Theresa. :D There are some really good characters who have not yet been introduced. Characters who some of us are very eager to see.
The Loli and the Butterfly will be hard for Galatea to beat. I'll be eager to see how she does against them. I'm casting my vote for the Butterfly. Though noone should be surprised that the Loli also has a lot of supporters.
Deathkillz
2007-06-21, 16:00
LOLZ! why is rubel up there ~ what kind of twisted joke is this!? :rolleyes:
my vote goes to teresa...cause just as her name states she is a goddess! :D
NoSanninWa
2007-06-21, 16:05
Hey, someone voted for Rubel! That is reason enough. Besides, he's really kinda cool in a very creepy way.
And 2 people voted for Raki. :D :D
Panzerklein
2007-06-21, 19:05
Finally, Noel have 1 voted. Hope Mr Noel will give a gift for that person in next X-mas :D.
ShinNoNoir
2007-06-21, 21:45
She was only there for a few episodes, but it left a lasting impression on me.. Theresa <3
Wosho128
2007-06-21, 23:30
Clare!
She carries her burdens just as well as Gutts from Berserk fame. Clare always protects people even when they don't deserve it and she always sticks to her ideals. After seeing her feelings for Raki in episode 12; Clare grew to be my favorite character. While she carries a stoic face; she has a variety of emotions that aren't shown.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-22, 01:13
She was only there for a few episodes, but it left a lasting impression on me.. Theresa <3
4 friggin episodes..and all worth it! One of these days, someone here will build a shrine to St. Teresa, saint of Claymores!:cool:
What, only 1 person voted for Priscilla? That will not do - Now there's two.
I voted for Priscilla. The main reason being is that I got a serious shock when she played dirty and said "kill me so I can remain human" then picked up her sword and sliced up Teresa when her guard was down.
I was like - OMG that's a CHEAP shot! I hate you but I kinda still liked it.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-22, 23:40
I wouldn't mind Helen or Miria catch up to Teresa in the future. They're my #2's.
Insearchof
2007-06-23, 14:08
Clare mainly because I love underdogs who claw, gnaw and fight their way to the top against ALL odds. Teresa was my original choice, an Awakened Teresa is the stuff Awakened Priscilla's nightmares are made of, but she already has enough fans that a single vote wouldn't be missed.
NightbatŪ
2007-06-23, 16:53
an Awakened Teresa is the stuff Awakened Priscilla's nightmares are made of
Actually, Theresa simply as claymore was strong enough to take out awakened Priscilla
Theresa went soft and because of that bought it
Remember she took on number 2, 3, 4 and 5 where #2 was claimed to one day exceed her as claymore at the same time
And even going over her limit (basicly not a claymore anymore) Priscilla wasn't able to take down Theresa
hollywoodlou
2007-06-23, 17:42
Actually, Theresa simply as claymore was strong enough to take out awakened Priscilla
Theresa went soft and because of that bought it
Remember she took on number 2, 3, 4 and 5 where #2 was claimed to one day exceed her as claymore at the same time
And even going over her limit (basicly not a claymore anymore) Priscilla wasn't able to take down Theresa
And that's why she won't be surpassed in the polls. Priscilla had to resort in faking it/cheap shot/back stab to attach her enemy. No honor at all.
Makes me scratch my head why priscilla with no honor, is even getting votes.
Fight me in the front, not from the back!;)
FatPianoBoy
2007-06-23, 22:40
And that's why she won't be surpassed in the polls. Priscilla had to resort in faking it/cheap shot/back stab to attach her enemy. No honor at all.
Makes me scratch my head why priscilla with no honor, is even getting votes.
Fight me in the front, not from the back!;)
Depends on who you're voting for.
Claymore Priscilla refused to stab Theresa in the back when she jump from the hotel, which apparently had been the plan set out by the other three. Also, she protested against the 4-on-1 battle, and lamented about not being able to fight Theresa one-on-one.
Therefore, since what happened would be completely out of character, I would assume that the Youma side had taken over by that point.
Anh_Minh
2007-06-23, 22:44
That, or she's the type to pretend to be honorable when she thinks she's going to win, but will use underhanded tricks when she is at a disadvantage. :p
Panzerklein
2007-06-23, 23:03
Beyond the dead, only survive or not survive, no place for fair or unfair.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-23, 23:49
Depends on who you're voting for.
Claymore Priscilla refused to stab Theresa in the back when she jump from the hotel, which apparently had been the plan set out by the other three. Also, she protested against the 4-on-1 battle, and lamented about not being able to fight Theresa one-on-one.
Therefore, since what happened would be completely out of character, I would assume that the Youma side had taken over by that point.
Then there should be 2 priscilla's in the polls: pre-AB and post-AB.
FatPianoBoy
2007-06-23, 23:54
Then there should be 2 priscilla's in the polls: pre-AB and post-AB.
But that's a really, really big spoiler. Even though this thread is full of untagged ones, they don't appear at the top of every page.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-24, 00:06
But that's a really, really big spoiler. Even though this thread is full of untagged ones, they don't appear at the top of every page.
crap!:rolleyes: I think everybody knows that by now. lol But still, if there was a 2nd poll, the pre and post AB would be interesting though.
hmmm, I just got an idea...the pre-kiss or the post kiss, which Clare would u prefer?:p
Twisted Reality
2007-06-24, 03:24
crap!:rolleyes: I think everybody knows that by now. lol But still, if there was a 2nd poll, the pre and post AB would be interesting though.
hmmm, I just got an idea...the pre-kiss or the post kiss, which Clare would u prefer?:p
Neither.
Pre-kiss Clare was boring, since when you first meet her, you think she's just some generic drone that's representative of *all* Claymores. We didn't yet know better because we hadn't met the other ones. (Well, maybe we suspected something from the Claymore-lineup in the opening credits...)
Then once we discover that all the other Claymores had their own little quirks, Clare was just plain outshone. Even when she kicks ass, she still lives in Teresa's shadow. She's merely an imitation Teresa, a cheap knockoff, so she'll have to spend some time developing her own character. Raki hasn't gotten enough development either, much to Clare's detriment as a character.
Post-kiss Clare has that creepy looking face from the anime burned into the memory. Certainly the art didn't look so weird in the manga, but even then, it's really hard for me to compare Clare to any of the other Claymores or villains.
IchimaruGin
2007-06-24, 18:52
:) yeh Teresa, she rooks really, and she can do the the flash sowrd, and here sowrd swinging is super cool, and very smart, can sense the Yoki so easy..
i didnt like it when they killed Teresa, to bad she hade to die i was really so shoked, the awaken yoma that killed here was so fast even i didnt know what happen hade to rewine it agin, damn that one :D
Sordes Pilosus
2007-06-24, 20:10
Well my vote goes to Galatea her being in the manga had me hooked from virtualy the start. And her anime portrait kinda made it clear. i was tiping between her and Miria for a while but ive settled down on Galatea.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-25, 01:06
Well my vote goes to Galatea her being in the manga had me hooked from virtualy the start. And her anime portrait kinda made it clear. i was tiping between her and Miria for a while but ive settled down on Galatea.
I forgot who in this forum, but she's called Miss Claymore' for a reason.
when's the next poll?
hollywoodlou
2007-06-25, 01:10
Neither.
Post-kiss Clare has that creepy looking face from the anime burned into the memory. Certainly the art didn't look so weird in the manga, but even then, it's really hard for me to compare Clare to any of the other Claymores or villains.
Ok. I'll re-phrase it.....pristine Clare or slutty' Clare?
NoSanninWa
2007-06-25, 01:23
Neither.
There is only one Clare and she is becoming a bit less 2-dimensional. Most real women are both slutty AND pristine. Sometimes at the same time. That's an element of reality that is rarely captured by anime, probably because most men have trouble accepting it.
Sordes Pilosus
2007-06-25, 01:34
I forgot who in this forum, but she's called Miss Claymore' for a reason.
when's the next poll?
But but.. she isent in the top.. aaa the horror. I guess to many fell in love with a sertan smile and the imagination of a sertan look on someone's face *sighs* Oh well i cant wait to see her again in the Anime :)
hollywoodlou
2007-06-25, 02:20
Neither.
There is only one Clare and she is becoming a bit less 2-dimensional. Most real women are both slutty AND pristine. Sometimes at the same time. That's an element of reality that is rarely captured by anime, probably because most men have trouble accepting it.
It was a shock to the system for some die-hard Clare fans:cool:. Heroes change. Look at the IMMORTAL Teresa at close to 50%. She was rather cold until she met young Clare, and we all saw a different side of her. AT least, she didn't kiss Clare on the lips.
NightbatŪ
2007-06-25, 05:56
It was a shock to the system for some die-hard Clare fans:cool:. Heroes change. Look at the IMMORTAL Teresa at close to 50%. She was rather cold until she met young Clare, and we all saw a different side of her. AT least, she didn't kiss Clare on the lips.
Like anyone would've mind :D
Crying_Silver_Eyes
2007-06-25, 10:15
Neither.
There is only one Clare and she is becoming a bit less 2-dimensional. Most real women are both slutty AND pristine. Sometimes at the same time. That's an element of reality that is rarely captured by anime, probably because most men have trouble accepting it.
After all she can act as a noble woman or a slut whenever she wants to :heh:
Insearchof
2007-06-25, 13:56
Actually, Theresa simply as claymore was strong enough to take out awakened Priscilla
Theresa went soft and because of that bought it
Remember she took on number 2, 3, 4 and 5 where #2 was claimed to one day exceed her as claymore at the same time
And even going over her limit (basicly not a claymore anymore) Priscilla wasn't able to take down Theresa
My point exactly, dear boy. If Teresa were to awaken, I can only imagine what kind of a being she would be. Maybe, a force of nature that can make the current "most dangerous thing" piss in her armored knickers. The fact the she still managed to overwhelm a half-awakened Priscilla with only minimal youki output is proof enough. Before you start quoting and sermoning someone, actually read the context before resorting to fanboy high-falutin. :uhoh::D
Man this was hard ! I voted for Clair, but I love Teresa, a really great character ! I don't know what else to say, Teresa great ! but Clair, also has something special about her, 3rd favorite would be raki, right now hes just a small boy, but he really loves Clair, so I can imagine how he would be once he gets older.
NightbatŪ
2007-06-25, 16:08
My point exactly, dear boy. If Teresa were to awaken, I can only imagine what kind of a being she would be. Maybe, a force of nature that can make the current "most dangerous thing" piss in her armored knickers. The fact the she still managed to overwhelm a half-awakened Priscilla with only minimal youki output is proof enough. Before you start quoting and sermoning someone, actually read the context before resorting to fanboy high-falutin. :uhoh::D
Your point was that of an awakened Theresa
My point was that unawakened Theresa was already the stuff awakened Priscilla's nightmares were made of
So tell me what part of the context I missed and why would stating my view of the matter be pretentious?
Insearchof
2007-06-25, 18:29
Now I get your point! This time it's your context I misconstrued. I'm imagining what Teresa would be like when she starts getting REALLY serious.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-25, 20:19
Now I get your point! This time it's your context I misconstrued. I'm imagining what Teresa would be like when she starts getting REALLY serious.
if Teresa GOT serious? The action would be so fast not even Irene's "flash sword" could capture the massacre.
Anyone notice when she got REALLY PISSED at the bandits in the burning village?
Yeah...that fast.
FlareKnight
2007-06-25, 21:52
Hard to make a vote here. Really was starting to like Miria as a character and there was great temptation to make the vote there .But Teresa really was such a great character that I had to give the vote there. A great combination of power but also character that made it tough to do anything else.
khryoleoz
2007-06-25, 22:28
My point was that unawakened Theresa was already the stuff awakened Priscilla's nightmares were made of
I have nothing substantive to add. I just wanted to react to this point by saying that it was poignant. I really think this was the case, that Teresa x 10% yoki output > Priscilla x 80+% yoki output. We don't know what this power ratio actually is when the same Teresa is compared to Priscilla x 100% yoki output, only that it was enough to get her killed. But Teresa at >10% output may have been abyssal class w/out resorting to an awakened state.
Sordes Pilosus
2007-06-25, 22:39
No. Pricilla wasent at that level when she was stil a Claymore. When she awakened her full potensional blossomed at the same time giving her major powerup. Teresa for sure was extreme. But that was more due to her "Claymore Type" then most others. When fighting Youki based enemies the bit about being Unparalelled at reading Youki flow kinda means quite alot. Pricilla was quite inexperienced when fighting Teresa she also had no real battle move to take advantage of in order to turn the tide. She dident have the experience even to know where her limit is. That tells quite alot about a Claymore.
The thruth of that battle is simple. Teresa read them like a book and just adjusted acordingly. Remember it was already said: Irene was had better swordship, Noel better agility, Sophie (or was it sophia?) had better strenght. Stil Teresa beat them all easily. Couse the fact she could predict their movements.
Anh_Minh
2007-06-26, 01:22
Thing is, she didn't need her youki reading to beat Priscilla. I think Irene vastly underestimated Theresa. She just never had an occasion to see Theresa get serious.
Its a close call between Teresa and Clare. Teresa is strong, yet graceful and a smile that shines like the light. Clare isn't so much but she is very caring and doesn't give up, even in a bad situation.
So i'm going to vote Clare.
Teresa did beat Priscilla when both of them are at zero youki releasing level, simply because at that time, Teresa is basically stronger than Priscilla, but that might be Teresa's peak condition, while Priscilla was still not fully developed. Irene and even Teresa knew that a fully grown/developed Priscilla will be stronger than Teresa (without her youki reading skill though, if Teresa starts releasing youki then Priscilla would have to ---> skill come handy :D).
Insearchof
2007-06-26, 03:31
The thruth of that battle is simple. Teresa read them like a book and just adjusted acordingly. Remember it was already said: Irene was had better swordship, Noel better agility, Sophie (or was it sophia?) had better strenght. Stil Teresa beat them all easily. Couse the fact she could predict their movements. You forget, Priscilla is like Teresa, able to fight without giving any youki and even when she did it was erratic and unreadable rendering Teresa's forte useless which made Ilena confident they can take her on 4 to 1. However, Ilena also admitted in disbelief that she underestimated her again after Teresa dispatched all 4 withought releasing youki.
I have nothing substantive to add. I just wanted to react to this point by saying that it was poignant. I really think this was the case, that Teresa x 10% yoki output > Priscilla x 80+% yoki output. We don't know what this power ratio actually is when the same Teresa is compared to Priscilla x 100% yoki output, only that it was enough to get her killed. But Teresa at >10% output may have been abyssal class w/out resorting to an awakened state. Methinks she would have to be partially awakened or fully awakening independent limbs to be anywhere near a threat to Abyssals. Hmmm, one can never be sure.
Teresa did beat Priscilla when both of them are at zero youki releasing level, simply because at that time, Teresa is basically stronger than Priscilla, but that might be Teresa's peak condition, while Priscilla was still not fully developed. Irene and even Teresa knew that a fully grown/developed Priscilla will be stronger than Teresa (without her youki reading skill though, if Teresa starts releasing youki then Priscilla would have to ---> skill come handy :D). Goes to show that experience means a lot in battle.
NoSanninWa
2007-06-26, 04:10
All that really needs to be noted is that even Theresa noted she would not be able to beat Priscilla once Priscilla had more experience. Although Theresa was the strongest back then, it is certain that Priscilla's potential would eventually exceed Theresa even if Priscilla did not Awaken. That means even a full strength Theresa using all her youki could not possibly defeat Priscilla now.
If Theresa herself thought this, then I would not want to argue with her own assessment. She knows her own strength better than any of us.
Sordes Pilosus
2007-06-26, 04:38
NosanninWa hits the nail perfectly :)
Insearchof you only forget 1 thing. At the start of the battle while its more annoying for Teresa its not like she is strugling vs Pricilla 1 on 1. And when its 4 on 1 Pricilla did release. Sooo Teresa could then start to read her like the others. It was actualy stupid of Pricilla to release. She should simply stayed like she was while the other had released. While they would stil have lost but it would had been more effective then what they did.
Woo, all the characters now have one vote! :D
All that really needs to be noted is that even Theresa noted she would not be able to beat Priscilla once Priscilla had more experience. Although Theresa was the strongest back then, it is certain that Priscilla's potential would eventually exceed Theresa even if Priscilla did not Awaken. That means even a full strength Theresa using all her youki could not possibly defeat Priscilla now.Doesn't this analysis suppose that an Awakening unlocks a Claymore's latent potential? That inference seems implied between your last sentence and the one directly before it. That is to say, you seem to be drawing a connection between "Awakening" and "Priscilla's potential allowing her to eventually surpass Teresa". I'm not sure that there's evidence to support this. We know that Awakening gives a dramatic power boost, but Awakening doesn't clearly mean that a Claymore can achieve full potential independent of any training/experience.
In other words, I'm saying that training and experience as a Claymore may affect the final power of an Awakened Being, and merely having "awesome potential" might not replace training and experience in that equation.
So could Full-Power Teresa match Priscilla Awakened? Maybe. She would last longer than the other Claymores did, though I couldn't guess how long.
Fenrir_valindri
2007-06-26, 14:05
Rubel himself stated that all of Priscilla's hidden potential was released when she awakened, I agree with Teresa's assesment, Priscilla would surpass her in time, but when she awakened, Priscilla was simply above everyone elses power scale, even if Teresa Awakened, not to say Teresa was weak or anything even close to that. She is definatly still top 5 potential as far as this entire story goes imo. :p
Rubel himself stated that all of Priscilla's hidden potential was released when she awakened, I agree with Teresa's assesment, Priscilla would surpass her in time, but when she awakened, Priscilla was simply above everyone elses power scale, even if Teresa Awakened, not to say Teresa was weak or anything even close to that. She is definatly still top 5 potential as far as this entire story goes imo. :pReally? Dang, I'd forgotten that. Time for me to go digging through the chapters to find the quotation. If that's true, then Awakening is absurdly broken.
I'm still doubtful though. If Rubel was being used as a mouthpiece for the author, to explain the situation in the Claymore world, then Rubel's assessment may be correct. However, if we assume that Rubel merely has "in-character knowledge", then he may be mistaken. And if there are statements by other characters that contradict Rubel, then there's reason to suppose that Rubel's assessment is incomplete.
Eh, my argument relies on manga knowledge, and I don't want to press it further here in consideration of anime viewers. Anyways: volume 9 (or maybe vol. 10, as Pomps points out below).
Yeap, Rubel said that, but Riful spared Clare, Galatea and Jean, to let them get stronger so they could be a more powerful Awakened Beings next time she catches them. So as Riful see it, the current strength of a Claymore at the time she awake does affect the power. It's confusing, I doubt even the mangaka has solid idea how this works :(.
But but.. she isent in the top.. aaa the horror. I guess to many fell in love with a sertan smile and the imagination of a sertan look on someone's face *sighs* Oh well i cant wait to see her again in the Anime :)
Never fear, the next poll shall fix that :)
Sordes Pilosus
2007-06-26, 20:44
Welsto i sertanly hope so. I am tempted to argue with you about the title of nr 1 fanboy but ill settle for being a big general Claymore addict. I just finished reading over the manga again today. Its becomming a daily event lol.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-26, 21:46
Never fear, the next poll shall fix that :)
I think Teresa will win again. Just because a # of posters just want to change their choices just for the sake of changing is moot for now. For someone who showed up for 4 episodes and win the poll for now, is something else.
I voted for Teresa. Such a great character overall, I still can't believe she died like that. :( But it's definitely one of the most memorable and classic character death in anime history.
Unlike the other one in another anime. Which was a BS death, his death was like "Let's get rid of this guy he's overshadowing the main character too much and replace him with a cute loli to attract more fanboys". I stopped watching after that.
I can't wait for the second poll, my next vote may lean towards Galatea depending on how the animators will handle her 2nd appearance.
I think Teresa will win again.
I think a lot of people will vote for someone else because they will assume (most liekly rightly) Teresa will win the 2nd poll. I'm sure quite a few characters in this current poll will gain a lot more votes the 2nd time around.
@ Yondy
I know what you mean but the last 2 eps of GL have been beyond awesome.
Yeah we need a new poll with updated characters. Also, only characters which might be popular should be included as there are soooooooooo many characters in Claymore.
Edit: Haha... I was thinking about the manga. Haha. I guess for the anime it dosen't matter yet. :heh:
hollywoodlou
2007-06-27, 20:51
Yeah we need a new poll with updated characters. Also, only characters which might be popular should be included as there are soooooooooo many characters in Claymore.
Edit: Haha... I was thinking about the manga. Haha. I guess for the anime it dosen't matter yet. :heh:
With newer characters, the poll will be crowded. Let's stick with the major ones. For pete's sake,,,Rubel? All he does is wear dark shades and order Clare around, yeah..that's gonna get my vote a 2nd time.
There's really no point doing another poll until after the series is over
Sordes Pilosus
2007-06-27, 22:53
Indeed. But if the Poll was based on say the Jap Manga it would be quite different. The information and impressions there are quite different and for those who have how can one now just love how Galatea's character is. Sure others are good to. Like i loved Teresa also personaly. But after the deeper insight on Galatea was shown Teresa became a faint memory.
zato_1one
2007-06-27, 23:46
One thing which amazes me is that these girls can make us their slave without showing any of their boob or flesh at all! And their personality is by far from being called cute too!
This series is truly awesome! :D
FatPianoBoy
2007-06-28, 00:01
... If I read zato's post right, this show is endearing us to to the female characters without resorting to moeisms or fanservice. I thought this was declared unpossible following Hayao Miyazaki's removal from office as Prime Minister.
Has Japan begun a new campaign to promote respect of women and portray them as strong and independent?
Twisted Reality
2007-06-28, 00:14
... If I read zato's post right, this show is endearing us to to the female characters without resorting to moeisms or fanservice. I thought this was declared unpossible following Hayao Miyazaki's removal from office as Prime Minister.
Has Japan begun a new campaign to promote respect of women and portray them as strong and independent?
Umm...okay?
I'm not even sure how to even to begin addressing that, other than to say that artists and other such creative people are the most likely to be blaspheme against our precious preconceived notions and attack our sensibilities.
Not that it stops other manga artists from portraying all guys as being clueless perverts....or making a billion or so yaoi manga...or well, you get my point. So the character development is refreshing, if only because there are so many cliches. Claymore does a wonderful job of subverting the "I am a generic soldier-drone" and "killer with heart of gold."
Seriously, I sometimes wonder why half these manga I see ever get published. The "manga revolution" has gotten so bad the half-assed webcomics like Megatokyo, Inverloch , Chugworth Academy and Red String get published and show up in your local Borders. Many have halfway decent art, but I could never get into them, mostly because most of them try to tell a story and fail. And largely, it seems like most manga are uninspired variations on the same theme...ho-hum, call me jaded.
Meanwhile, the Foglios lived in crushing debt for trying to publish Girl Genius in its early years. Much better writing, much more inspired, better setting and still no widespread appeal. I'd blame it on the fact that their artwork doesn't look like anime or superhero comic books.
Somehow, I think moe-appeal and fanservice is just a byproduct of sloth and perhaps less a byproduct of Japanese attitudes towards women. I mean, you've got secret sensitive gay-men love to titillate women in much the same way hot lesbians titillate men. It's a proven formula to have moe-girls and fanservice. Why mess with success? I think artists usually don't mind being provocative, it's what they do, but it doesn't mean they always do something original.
Oh well...mini-rant over.
hollywoodlou
2007-06-28, 00:49
There's really no point doing another poll until after the series is over
Agreed...I can also observe from the posts that more people voted based on the anime rather than the manga.
I can also forecast that there'll be a flood of vote changes, but won't upset the reign of our dead Queen Teresa.
Ejinathan
2007-06-28, 06:27
Teresa stunned me when she was standing on Sophia's sword (reminds me of dark link in ocarina of time hehe).
Also her way of soloing 4 people is awesome.
Bloodseeker
2007-06-28, 07:18
Meanwhile, the Foglios lived in crushing debt for trying to publish Girl Genius in its early years. Much better writing, much more inspired, better setting and still no widespread appeal. I'd blame it on the fact that their artwork doesn't look like anime or superhero comic books.
Somehow, I think moe-appeal and fanservice is just a byproduct of sloth and perhaps less a byproduct of Japanese attitudes towards women. I mean, you've got secret sensitive gay-men love to titillate women in much the same way hot lesbians titillate men. It's a proven formula to have moe-girls and fanservice. Why mess with success? I think artists usually don't mind being provocative, it's what they do, but it doesn't mean they always do something original.
Oh well...mini-rant over.
Simple explanation for the choice of moe character designs and traditional anime style art: attractive character designs catch the audience's eye.
I don't watch all of the promotional trailers and read all of the season previews when new seasons start. I've tried. I get bored. Instead, I browse forums. I see what people are talking about. That includes 4chan. That means that the first thing that I often see for a series are promotional images on /a/. Likewise, I'm sure that for a lot of Japanese anime fans, the first that they see of most shows are promotional images on 2chan or in anime magazines. If the promotional ad catches the eye of the viewer, they're more likely to be a bit curious about what that show's about, and that curiosity might bring them to look into it. Then of course, there are those people that will watch just so the can drool over the pretty ladies, and attractive character designs and a bit of fanservice will draw them in like moths to a flame.
And of course on flip side, using a very unique art style runs the risk of having people find the art style to be an eye sore and driving said people away before they even know anything about the plot
*googles Girl Genius*
Yeah, the art doesn't catch my eye either.
So while it may be considered generic by some, if you can't confidently say that your unique art style won't be an eyesore, it makes sense to go for a more traditional approach, and to make your characters eye candy.
Mr Hat and Clogs
2007-06-28, 10:51
Helen, she just seems.. so.. excitable.
Which rocks, in my books. :heh:
zato_1one
2007-06-28, 12:37
... If I read zato's post right, this show is endearing us to to the female characters without resorting to moeisms or fanservice.
Yep. I really mean it. ;)
But I admit that I still want to see them naked though. :heh:
hollywoodlou
2007-06-29, 00:42
Yep. I really mean it. ;)
But I admit that I still want to see them naked though. :heh:
A good # of us do, but you know there something "nasty" between their chest...and if it causes dudes (see ep 8; the bandits) to almost hurl, then maybe let's hold off on that idea. ;)
Crying_Silver_Eyes
2007-06-29, 01:53
Yep. I really mean it. ;)
But I admit that I still want to see them naked though. :heh:
Me too, I need to know what's that nasty thing in their chest :uhoh:
hollywoodlou
2007-06-29, 03:28
Me too, I need to know what's that nasty thing in their chest :uhoh:
You need to know or you want to know?? ;)
Goofus Maximus
2007-06-29, 08:08
Helen, she just seems.. so.. excitable.
Which rocks, in my books. :heh:
I love how she never speaks without putting at least one foot in her mouth. Sometimes more! :D
Panzerklein
2007-06-29, 08:58
Helen, she just seems.. so.. excitable.
Which rocks, in my books. :heh:
Another fan of Helen :heh: . She always like a child even when she become a old woman :heh:.
Mr Hat and Clogs
2007-06-29, 10:46
Hah, yeah. Helen4fite! :heh:
There is a shot of her in ch68, I thinkit was, where she is cheering about being home which just cracked me up for some reason. Wouldn't mind using it as an avatar if I can find it again.
kitsune383
2007-06-29, 19:16
hmm....after reading all 13 manga volumes thus far, I am torn b/w Teresa, Miria, and Galatea...each of them have unique features and characteristics that I love...I voted for Teresa b/c she appeared first :D...i guess when it really comes down to it...Teresa is #1...Mira & Galatea are tied for #2 in my book :p
hollywoodlou
2007-06-29, 20:04
My top 4 won't probably change...Teresa, Clare, Miria and Helen.
eyesrutherford
2007-07-01, 19:53
I voted for Claire...
Nothing personal but I mostly like the main characters because they mostly show how they soon learn to surpass the other members..heh..not a very good explanation but yeah...that's why I like her the most:heh:
hollywoodlou
2007-07-01, 20:37
I voted for Claire...
Nothing personal but I mostly like the main characters because they mostly show how they soon learn to surpass the other members..heh..not a very good explanation but yeah...that's why I like her the most:heh:
Hey none taken...Clare is the star of the show. Personality-wise, I'm closer to Helen but when it comes to character impact on a major character's life, I voted for Teresa.
Negativedark
2007-07-01, 20:57
I am going to have such a hard time choosing at the next poll. But I do plan on giving everyone a runner up award.
hollywoodlou
2007-07-02, 01:56
I am going to have such a hard time choosing at the next poll. But I do plan on giving everyone a runner up award.
When is the next poll?
Upto the mods but it really shouldn't be until after the anime is over, only 13 more weeks!
hollywoodlou
2007-07-02, 16:45
Upto the mods but it really shouldn't be until after the anime is over, only 13 more weeks!
I know your Miss Claymore' is gonna show up soon, W!;)
Salamandra
2007-07-02, 17:48
My favorite's not on the poll yet.
But, out of those... probably Deneve. Not sure why.
hollywoodlou
2007-07-02, 18:05
My favorite's not on the poll yet.
But, out of those... probably Deneve. Not sure why.
There are some characters that I liked that are also not on the poll, after reading some late volumes last night...
After reading vol 12 (early chapters)..I said, "1,2 could kick some serious behind".;)
Insearchof
2007-07-04, 14:10
I can see Teresa's popularity still hasn't waned.
For all you Teresa fans out there I have something to whet your imaginations: EXTRA SCENE 1 Bonus Chapter of Teresa-you'll see how good she is with just her left hand
For video scan with music: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v721068Y83YTb6m
For page by page with official translation: http://www.daily-manga.net/Claymore/#top (scroll down for Extra-S1)
I like Miria most, valiant warrior, pragmatical thinker, excellent leader, cool special move.
Teresa is also an awesome character, that aura of superiority she carries is unmatched. I was beyond shocked when she got decapitated so easily...
But the options in this poll don't seem to contain the real gems. I'll be back on the next poll.
hollywoodlou
2007-07-04, 16:35
She does have a knack for very condescending yet subtle sarcasm. She is actually a study in subtlety, from her polite but veiled remarks and threats, her fighting style to her yoki supression, the only thing unsubtle about her is the amount of yoki she wields which even Raphaela noticed when Teresa was still in training (Raphaela was even surprised that she spends time in the woods full of yoma and wild animals). I might be reading too much into it but it looked like Raphaela felt what might have been an already abnormal amount of yoki from Teresa's hence the, "Do you have a sister?" remark after she heard news that the Org obtained twins.
:eyespin: I gotta stop or I might OD on Teresa info right now. :heh:
yeah..Teresa is like crack while Miria is my meth.
Holy. Teresa just increased her lead in the polls by a mile. If I were Yagi, I would bring back Teresa in the end of the series before Clare really loses her sanity.
hollywoodlou
2007-07-04, 16:38
I like Miria most, valiant warrior, pragmatical thinker, excellent leader, cool special move.
Teresa is also an awesome character, that aura of superiority she carries is unmatched. I was beyond shocked when she got decapitated so easily...
But the options in this poll don't seem to contain the real gems. I'll be back on the next poll.
Yeah...there's been speculation of poll # 2 after the anime ends but it's just talk. Alicia and Beth look devastating, while Miata...well, she rocks ..and she 'sucks'.;)
HinaThePrince
2007-07-04, 16:55
If I were Yagi, I would bring back Teresa in the end of the series before Clare really loses her sanity.
Except that would be the lamest thing ever.
hollywoodlou
2007-07-04, 17:49
Except that would be the lamest thing ever.
Nope...if Raki was still alive, that would be the lamest.
Nope...if Raki was still alive, that would be the lamest.
Better than coming back to life from a decapitation and assimilation in Clare.
HinaThePrince
2007-07-04, 19:02
Nope...if Raki was still alive, that would be the lamest.
No, actually, if Raki turned into a Claymore, THAT would be the lamest.
Yorae_paladin1
2007-07-04, 19:44
No, actually, if Raki turned into a Claymore, THAT would be the lamest.
Yah i would like for him to gain power through his own strength instaed of becoming just another hybrid.
Yah i would like for him to gain power through his own strength instaed of becoming just another hybrid.
He'd still be utterly useless against anything other than humans.
hollywoodlou
2007-07-04, 21:07
No, actually, if Raki turned into a Claymore, THAT would be the lamest.
including elf ears?:p
stormy001_M1A2
2007-07-04, 21:32
No the lamest is Raki becomes pimp to all Claymores and female Awaken Beings. Complete with bling blings
Hahahhahah
Ghost of Perdition
2007-07-04, 21:38
I had to choose between Helen and Deneve, but in the end I chose Deneve because she doesn't get enough love.
Yorae_paladin1
2007-07-04, 21:41
He'd still be utterly useless against anything other than humans.
Im hoping he turns into something like guts from berserk who whips demon ass like its going out of style
hollywoodlou
2007-07-04, 22:41
No the lamest is Raki becomes pimp to all Claymores and female Awaken Beings. Complete with bling blings
Hahahhahah
If I were a Claymore, I would happily turn into an Awakened Being if that were to happen..
hollywoodlou
2007-07-04, 22:43
I had to choose between Helen and Deneve, but in the end I chose Deneve because she doesn't get enough love.
Like a pity date?
Now, one of my faves Helen...I could drink beers with Helen.
Tempest35
2007-07-04, 23:24
Deneve's just seems like the quiet time but she really isn't. She just doesn't say much unless she really feels the need to let you know what's on her mind and that's usually when someone's making a fool of themselves. :D
Haaah, these last three eps have Irene eclipsing Miria on my personal #1 fave list - hurry back Miria~
hollywoodlou
2007-07-05, 00:00
I don't know...it's hard to dislodge one of my faves Miria after readings vols 9-13. The leadership skills she showed in those volumes is just amazing. Without her "executive decision" at Pieta, everybody would've been dead....And she looks hot in black.
Im hoping he turns into something like guts from berserk who whips demon ass like its going out of style
Would be completely lame and Yomas are pretty much non factors now anyway.
Yorae_paladin1
2007-07-05, 01:01
Would be completely lame and Yomas are pretty much non factors now anyway.
and what would you like him to be then?
hollywoodlou
2007-07-05, 01:35
All I know is that 2 people voted for Raki...and it ain't me.
Plus, If Raki and a 10 day old sandwich were the ONLY ones on the poll, I'm voting for the sandwich.
and what would you like him to be then?
How about deceased?
hollywoodlou
2007-07-05, 02:59
Yo guys, this thread is for "favorite characters" ONLY...
NOT "the least favorite character-I hate raki" thread...Damn, now that useless brat is ruining this thread EVEn when he's not around in 2 episodes.
All I know is that 2 people voted for Raki...and it ain't me.
Plus, If Raki and a 10 day old sandwich were the ONLY ones on the poll, I'm voting for the sandwich.
I'd vote for Raki... Although that's not saying much. I don't dislike him though, there are just much better characters around. I suspect I would vote for Miria if there's another poll.
Poor Galatea~~ only 20+ votes! where are all the Galatea fans?
HinaThePrince
2007-07-05, 08:13
20+ is a lot, seeing as all Galatea fans like her just because she's hot. Can you get any more shallow?
ItachiGT
2007-07-05, 08:15
Here Here^^
That "Anime-Priscilla" makes me so sad evertime i see her:upset:
Manga-Priscilla >>>> Anime-Priscilla
If she was as hot as in the manga i can't choose between her and Galatea:rolleyes::heh:
Blablabla
2007-07-05, 08:54
My fav' charats are Riful, Isley, Ophelia and Flora... then Priscilla, Miria, Galatea and Teresa.
So I voted for Priscilla . :cool:
killer3000ad
2007-07-05, 09:52
Poor Galatea~~ only 20+ votes! where are all the Galatea fans?
Don't worry, when Galatea starts strutting her stuff in a couple of more episodes, I reckon we'll see a nice spike in her popularity.
Cococokie
2007-07-05, 10:08
Why no Ophelia? T_T
Yorae_paladin1
2007-07-05, 10:19
How about deceased?
You must hate him do you? Well iwant raki to become something more respectable than the boy who follows clare around.
stormy001_M1A2
2007-07-05, 10:25
Poor Noel. Guess even she is voice acted by same actress who did Revy from Black Lagoon, it is not enough.
Blablabla
2007-07-05, 12:04
Well.. as I see from Priscilla's votes... this forum also shows the "everyone hates the superstarOMGWTFsocoolLove's antagonist..." syndrome... Like the "Shin is a bastard, Kira is my god" or the "Stinku stinks, Ginsama banzai".
Poor Priscilla... didn't deserve that :/
HinaThePrince
2007-07-05, 12:44
Poor Priscilla... didn't deserve that :/
Actually, she does. She's annoying as heck and no one's ever going to forgive her for killing Teresa. She's a good character, yes, but that doesn't mean we should hate her less. :)
Blablabla
2007-07-05, 13:02
Actually, she does. She's annoying as heck and no one's ever going to forgive her for killing Teresa. She's a good character, yes, but that doesn't mean we should hate her less. :)
Teresa's death was not Priscilla's fault. It was Teresa's.
Priscilla had her convictions and fight for them. She did loose control because her emotions and because she was rookie. That's all.
zato_1one
2007-07-05, 13:52
You shouldn't blame Teresa because she has mercy. The one to be blamed should be the Org. for sending rookie to such mission.
On the vote, Beat Miria! Galatea! :)
My Miss Claymore Contest:
1.Galatea
2.Luciela
3.Cyntia
4.Flora
5.Tabitha
Salamandra
2007-07-05, 13:54
While not all the blame should be put on Priscilla... that doesn't make it Teresa's fault -_-
NoSanninWa
2007-07-05, 15:36
Why no Ophelia? T_T
Because she hadn't yet appeared in the anime when I made this poll. Unfortunately I don't intend to put her in the next poll either, since there will be so many characters that I'd rather not include the deceased. (Other than the overly popular Theresa.) I'll also be leaving out the few extremely unpopular male characters such as Raki and Rubel. The next poll will not have Raki, Rubel, Noel, Sophia, Irene or Ophelia. All of them are either dead or too marginal to consider.
Raki, Rubel, Noel and Sophia already had their chance to win votes and lost. I suppose I'd be willing to change my mind about Ophelia if I decide that there really are a lot of people who want to vote for Ophelia. Not just people who like her, but people who would chose to use their single vote for her instead of Theresa, Clare, Galatea, Miria or anyone else. I figure there would be 1 or 2, but since she is already dead I'm not adding her for just one or two people to vote on.
As a bonus, by not including Raki or Rubel I can simply the poll question to "Who is your favorite Claymore?" ;)
My primary concern is that the next poll is going to be ungodly long. Long polls make it hard to take in the whole cast. Even with the subtractions I am making, the poll's options will be in the low to mid teens. (I'm not disclosing the actual number for spoiler reasons.) If I include everyone it will be outrageous. There are also a lot of people who will not be included because they have only a single line of dialogue. As always, I am open to discussion if people have something to say which is either interesting or well thought out.
PS. In case anyone is curious, the next poll will probably be made after episode 19 in fansubbed. After the series is over I might have a third poll to see everyone's final preferences. This probably makes a lot of sense to folks who read the manga, but they will be kind enough not to tell anyone about my reasons, lest I strike them down with my fiery wrath.
Blablabla
2007-07-05, 17:22
While not all the blame should be put on Priscilla... that doesn't make it Teresa's fault -_-
She died because of her pride. "Too strong and too pride" said Irene when she was talking to Clare.
Teresa did no try to understand Priscilla's anger and to tell her "why she did kill those people". Priscilla had no bad intentions... she just fought for what she believed in, she just fought someone who went against all that she tryed to stand for, she fought someone who killed people. But never Teresa tried to understand that and told her what actually happened ther, that she was actually protecting people... from other people who became worst than Yoma.
But Teresa is godess, Teresa tought she didn't need such complications and that anyways, she could own whoever would stand in front of her... but she failed.
Anh_Minh
2007-07-05, 18:06
Fighting for what you believe in doesn't make you right. If tomorrow I believe you must die, it doesn't give me the right to murder you.
And did Priscilla ever try to understand? Would she have listened if Theresa tried to explain?
And even if Theresa had somehow convinced Priscilla... It would just have landed her in hot water too.
In the end, Theresa wasn't merciful out of pride. She knew damn well the safest thing to do was to kill Priscilla at the first occasion. She chose not to because Clare changed her and she didn't want to lose her newfound innocence.
Poor Galatea~~ only 20+ votes! where are all the Galatea fans?
Ep 19 poll we rise!
Cococokie
2007-07-06, 01:24
Well, you see... Priscilla is has even shorter story about her for now. Why not ophie? She appeared in full 3 episodes. Come on add and let's see how many votes she may get ok? It's not like she is rubel or gubel lol.
Because she hadn't yet appeared in the anime when I made this poll. Unfortunately I don't intend to put her in the next poll either, since there will be so many characters that I'd rather not include the deceased. (Other than the overly popular Theresa.) I'll also be leaving out the few extremely unpopular male characters such as Raki and Rubel. The next poll will not have Raki, Rubel, Noel, Sophia, Irene or Ophelia. All of them are either dead or too marginal to consider.
Raki, Rubel, Noel and Sophia already had their chance to win votes and lost. I suppose I'd be willing to change my mind about Ophelia if I decide that there really are a lot of people who want to vote for Ophelia. Not just people who like her, but people who would chose to use their single vote for her instead of Theresa, Clare, Galatea, Miria or anyone else. I figure there would be 1 or 2, but since she is already dead I'm not adding her for just one or two people to vote on.
As a bonus, by not including Raki or Rubel I can simply the poll question to "Who is your favorite Claymore?" ;)
My primary concern is that the next poll is going to be ungodly long. Long polls make it hard to take in the whole cast. Even with the subtractions I am making, the poll's options will be in the low to mid teens. (I'm not disclosing the actual number for spoiler reasons.) If I include everyone it will be outrageous. There are also a lot of people who will not be included because they have only a single line of dialogue. As always, I am open to discussion if people have something to say which is either interesting or well thought out.
PS. In case anyone is curious, the next poll will probably be made after episode 19 in fansubbed. After the series is over I might have a third poll to see everyone's final preferences. This probably makes a lot of sense to folks who read the manga, but they will be kind enough not to tell anyone about my reasons, lest I strike them down with my fiery wrath.
Teresa's death was not Priscilla's fault. It was Teresa's.
Basically youre saying sth like:
"I've been killed in a bomb accident, it was my fault that I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, not terrorist's" lol.
Teresa did no try to understand Priscilla's anger and to tell her "why she did kill those people"
So you think that it would change her twisted and manipulated mind ? Killing people was prohibited by the organization, no matter what the circumstances were. What's more Priscilla didn't let her finish but rushed at her right after asking a question why she did that. She wouldn't understand Teresa because her only reason to live was serving the organization.
Cococokie
2007-07-06, 03:03
The organization is kind of crap lol. How is Irene traitor, she didn't kill humans or claymores. She just left the org. Leaving org is considered traitor?
Basically youre saying sth like:
"I've been killed in a bomb accident, it was my fault that I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, not terrorist's" lol.
So you think that it would change her twisted and manipulated mind ? Killing people was prohibited by the organization, no matter what the circumstances were. What's more Priscilla didn't let her finish but rushed at her right after asking a question why she did that. She wouldn't understand Teresa because her only reason to live was serving the organization.
The organization is kind of crap lol. How is Irene traitor, she didn't kill humans or claymores. She just left the org. Leaving org is considered traitor?
And how is that referring to my post?
mooncanvas
2007-07-06, 03:12
What's more Priscilla didn't let her finish but rushed at her right after asking a question why she did that.
I've always found that a bit funny.
Priscilla: There's something I want to ask you. Why didn't you surrender yourself before? You broke the organisation's rules.
Teresa: --
Priscilla: blah blah blah blah blah
Teresa: --
Priscilla: Forgive me but I must take your head!
Teresa: .... (do I get to answer or what? She's about to attack me anyway, I'll just squeeze my piece in) But if you don't mind me saying!
Cococokie
2007-07-06, 03:12
LOL. it has something to do with the sinister organization =p
mooncanvas
2007-07-06, 03:33
The organization is kind of crap lol. How is Irene traitor, she didn't kill humans or claymores. She just left the org. Leaving org is considered traitor?
Yes, leaving the org without their blessing = blacklisted
Yes, leaving the org without their blessing = blacklisted
Poor claymores, lost their freedom to the organisation!~~
Tempest35
2007-07-06, 12:23
Too bad we can't have two votes (first voting option being locked after the vote is made so we don't get two Galatea votes by the same person :p I know the zealots would do that).
My top five personally. What can I say, I love tomboys. :D
Miria
Irene
Noel
Helen
Deneve
hollywoodlou
2007-07-06, 18:08
My Teresa is hard to beat. I actually thought Miria or Galatea are gonna climb up the polls, but Clare (the star of the show) is the one getting the votes.
If there was a 2nd poll, are we getting 2-4 votes OR 1 vote again?
zato_1one
2007-07-07, 00:42
I think it will be great (for me at least) if there is a poll for favorite awakened. :)
Monster design in Claymore is beyond awesome. It's one of a main reason which makes Claymore my favorite of all time.
And Ophelia can be added in the poll too. :D
FlareKnight
2007-07-07, 10:54
I'd admit having even 3 votes would make things a whole lot easier. A lot of quality characters and picking just one is never an easy thing.
Even with another poll I'm sure it'll be tough for Teresa to lose since she's just got a lot going for her even if she's deceased now. Should be interesting though with new characters how the voting goes next time.
Rotton the Wizard
2007-07-07, 12:29
Monster design in Claymore is beyond awesome. It's one of a main reason which makes Claymore my favorite of all time.
Agreed; it's great how every awakened being we've seen so far has a completely unique and unpredictable design.
I also second an awakened being poll as long as a lot more show up in the future.
hollywoodlou
2007-07-07, 14:49
I'd admit having even 3 votes would make things a whole lot easier. A lot of quality characters and picking just one is never an easy thing.
Even with another poll I'm sure it'll be tough for Teresa to lose since she's just got a lot going for her even if she's deceased now. Should be interesting though with new characters how the voting goes next time.
I really doubt Teresa will lose the 2nd time...she keeps piling up the votes even when she's dead. What's surprising is Clare catching up on her and I have 2 theories why: Clare giving tongue to Raki ;) and everytime we watch her suffer, she manages to survive in the end.
I don't think the supporting cast has gotten enough "shine" yet to overtake Clare, I'll doubt she'll finish 2nd in the after 26th ep poll.
stormy001_M1A2
2007-07-07, 20:50
I do wonder how popular Theresa will be if the Claymore main story is on her, not Claire.
Why isn't Ophelia on it? I am torn between her and Teresa. But Teresa won eventually because she had common sense. :D
Sorry, my bad. Didn't read the first post. :heh: Anyway, it's Teresa.
I think Teresa is a lock for the 1st spot even in the next poll. The fight for the 2nd spot is definitely going to be an exciting one. We got Clare, Miria, and Galatea duking it out for that spot. But Clare is the favorite to win though, while Miria, and Tea are the underdogs.
My prediction for the next poll:
1. Teresa
2. Clare
3. Galatea
4. Miria
5. look at my avatar(homer pick) XD
personally i like the following:
1. Teresa
2. Flora
3. Galatea
khryoleoz
2007-07-08, 12:45
I do wonder how popular Theresa will be if the Claymore main story is on her, not Claire.
At least one question needs to be asked first. At what part of her character development would the story pick things up? If at the time she was already ranked number one, then it would probably lack depth because there just wouldn't be any room for further development (that and she'd be without rivals and how interesting would that be?). So her poll ranking might plummet. I think, though I infer this from my own attraction towards her, part of Teresa's appeal is that she played a sympathetic tragic heroine. If it was just a matter of strength, Priscilla's should be higher. And if grace, then Galatea's.
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