Claymore - Episode 15 Discussion / Poll

[Pellissier]

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[dxanato]

How are the lucky one who see it? I guess I will not get to see tilt later tonight. sigh

[Seska]

I have to wait for the summary on Omni (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/) or WRex's (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/) HP.....

[EasyPrey]

We know that:

1) Raki left / died / lost , whatever.

2) We see a new girl in the preview. She appears to be around 11 years old.

3) Clare is looking for a sidekick.

Therefore, I am going to go out on a limb and predict that this new child will be Clare's new sidekick. The only problem is, does that mean Clare is going to die? I hope not.

I am glad to see Claymore is introducing a gentle child in the series. :)

Look forward to this episode.

-EasyPrey

PS. I forgot my standard prediction: I predict that there will be at least one naked woman in this episode! :D :D :D

[Guido]

We know that:

1) Raki left / died / lost , whatever.

2) We see a new girl in the preview. She appears to be around 11 years old.

3) Clare is looking for a sidekick.

Therefore, I am going to go out on a limb and predict that this new child will be Clare's new sidekick. The only problem is, does that mean Clare is going to die? I hope not.


I refuse to believe that Clare will forget her love toy, Raki. She's just adjusting her agenda to prioritize her goals.

1. Get stronger and learn new sword techniques.

2. Search and destroy quest to claim Priscilla's head.

3. Lastly, find Raki after she's done with Priscilla.

Simple, doesn't it?

[Defiled one]

History like´s to repeat itself. Does that mean that Clare is gonna be decapitated?;_;

[Seska]

I am glad to see Claymore is introducing a gentle child in the series. :)

Yes, true word. She looks so lovely. I bet she and Clare will be best friends from now on.... (Manga Wisdom users... Hold your horses)

[Guido]

Yes, true word. She looks so lovely. I bet she and Clare will be best friends from now on.... (Manga Wisdom users... Hold your horses)

Sir, I'm taking your word. I'm holding back my manga wisdom and no, I'm not spoiling. Seals his mouth shut.

And everything can go in the world of Claymore. Will history repeat itself or will destiny be averted?

I just love the number of hinted possibilities the story starts to conjure up with.

[Defiled one]

Well, after watching many harem animes I can clearly say that the main character"Clare" will have, at least one underage girl, following him or her around.

But Raki already fills that post..So, I am willing to bet a limb that from now on. It´s increassing the harem of the main character.

NO EXCEPTIONS :heh:

[B-day]

We know that:

1) Raki left / died / lost , whatever.

2) We see a new girl in the preview. She appears to be around 11 years old.

3) Clare is looking for a sidekick.

Therefore, I am going to go out on a limb and predict that this new child will be Clare's new sidekick. The only problem is, does that mean Clare is going to die? I hope not.

I am glad to see Claymore is introducing a gentle child in the series. :)

Look forward to this episode.

-EasyPrey

PS. I forgot my standard prediction: I predict that there will be at least one naked woman in this episode! :D :D :D

That child? you mean a dark hair "girl", you can see her in OP. Obviously that means she will play an important role in the series. New sidekick of Clare??????:confused: let's wait and see.

[zato_1one]

W00t! Already has a vote?

So quick! 0_o

[Defiled one]

We don´t even know if it´s a girl to begin with "wink" Wink" It could be a guy with long hair. :rolleyes:

[goukilord]

i want spoiler pics ! :mad:

[pomps]

Short summary
- The Org sent Galatea on the mission to hunt for Clare, since they found the awakened body of Ophelia but not Clare's. She didn't show up for 3 months.
- Clare disguised as a man, took the youki suppressing pills, searched for Raki, she changed her voice by stretching her throat abit.
- Since she took the pills, she couldn't sense the presence of other Claymores, so she wandered into a city where 4 other Claymores gathered for a Awakened One hunting mission. The single digit of the group - Jean felt Clare's presense but not clearly, so they went on hunting.
- That group was captured by a girl and 1 AO - Dauf, exept for 1 Claymore, who was seriously wounded. She made it back to the city to call for help, and died in Clare's arms. Clare decided to go to the mountain where those Awakened Ones reside.
- At the same times, Dauf were torturing captured Claymores under the girl's command, in order to make them awake. One Claymore died because of the torture, another - Katie awaked but since she's low ranking, her awakened form is too weak, the girl was unsatisfied and ordered Dauf to kill her right away.
- Clare arrived at the mountain, killed some petty youmas there, but learned that these youma knew more about Claymores behaviour than usual, and they acted as if they were leaded by someone. Then she arrived at the dungeon where Jean was being tortured.
End of episode.

[PGilis]

Maybe that new girl will be the new candidate to Raki's girlfriend. An anime would not be an anime without at least one amorous triangle to spice the things.

*Looks to Clare*

Why i'm having some "My super ex-girlfriend"-vibes here?! :heh:

[Defiled one]

I´ll post the pictures in a minute. I´m just kinda of scared cause...you´ll see
when I edit this again.

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[superzombie23]

Yes, true word. She looks so lovely. I bet she and Clare will be best friends from now on.... (Manga Wisdom users... Hold your horses)
*seals mouth with super glue*

[Seska]

Good, you learned to keep other viewers Dreams/Curiosity in check. Let's keep going. Let all enjoy this trip. Fight-o, Fight-o

[Kinematics]

Well, after watching many harem animes I can clearly say that the main character"Clare" will have, at least one underage girl, following him or her around.

But Raki already fills that post..So, I am willing to bet a limb that from now on. It´s increassing the harem of the main character.

NO EXCEPTIONS :heh:

Hmm.. Young girl, harem addition/sidekick...

Since she's young, she must obviously be a good cook (eg: Shinobu from Love Hina, Sasami from Tenchi). With long dark hair she must follow Clare around adoringly (Tomoyo from Cardcaptor Sakura), and is probably rich or royalty (Tomoyo/Sasami).

Wait, Raki's already the cook. Can't have two sidekicks who are both cooks. She doesn't look the type to fill the crazy/wacko position. Maybe something like Hisami from ROD, the shy, young intellectual.

Unfortunately, since Raki is the first of the harem that Clare met, he's the automatic pairing winner, not being the Childhood Friend character (ie: Elena, who was taken out of the running fairly early). So despite the probable uncomfortably 'comfortable' positions Clare and the girl end up in, there's unlikely to be much hope for a little shojou-ai pairing.

:p

[B-day]

New dark hair girl, can we include her in the "most favorite" poll next time. She looks cute.

[Kinematics]

Can someone post a spoiler picture of the new girl that is being mentioned

Eh, she's in the preview at the end of episode 14. If you've read the manga, I'm sure you'll recognize her when you see her.

[Anh_Minh]

She and Raki can fight for the limited real estate of Clare's stomach.

[Riful]

So who is Jean's seiyuu? Must be another super popular one :) Edit: Wow, It's Kotono Mitsuishi (best known as Sailor Moon and Misato from EVA) - one of the most popular Seiyuu out there O.O

[herbert]

Short summary
- The Org sent Galatea on the mission to hunt for Clare, since they found the awakened body of Ophelia but not Clare's. She didn't show up for 3 months.
- Clare disguised as a man, took the youki suppressing pills, searched for Raki, she changed her voice by stretching her throat abit.
- Since she took the pills, she couldn't sense the presence of other Claymores, so she wandered into a city where 4 other Claymores gathered for a Awakened One hunting mission. The single digit of the group - Jean felt Clare's presense but not clearly, so they went on hunting.
- That group was captured by a girl and 1 AO - Dauf, exept for 1 Claymore, who was seriously wounded. She made it back to the city to call for help, and died in Clare's arms. Clare decided to go to the mountain where those Awakened Ones reside.
- At the same times, Dauf were torturing captured Claymores under the girl's command, in order to make them awake. One Claymore died because of the torture, another - Katie awaked but since she's low ranking, her awakened form is too weak, the girl was unsatisfied and ordered Dauf to kill her right away.
- Clare arrived at the mountain, killed some petty youmas there, but learned that these youma knew more about Claymores behaviour than usual, and they acted as if they were leaded by someone. Then she arrived at the dungeon where Jean was being tortured.
End of episode.

What? Just this far? I expected Clare starts to fight one of those Awaken Beings. Seems the pace turns slower.

[t3ck]

The screenshots looks great! I can't wait! But too bad there ain't much fight in this episode.

[Ronny]

So who is Jean's seiyuu? Must be another super popular one :) Edit: Wow, It's Kotono Mitsuishi (best known as Sailor Moon and Misato from EVA) - one of the most popular Seiyuu out there O.O

!!! *fanboys* And yet another Sailor Moon character :X

[Mentar]

*lol*

Oh my goodness! They've been giving Riful (the girl, I hope passing out her name isn't considered a spoiler) done by Mizuki Nana a kind of voice which reminds me of a mascot in a mahou shoujo anime ^_^;

It is EXTREMELY difficult for someone knowing the story to comment on this episode, because so many things done here are actually highly misleading. However, trying to set these perceived misconceptions right would automatically spoil. So I guess I'll just bite my tongue and wait for ep16, where I'll have to say much more.

Last week I was giving a 7.5, rounding down to 7. This time I'll round up. 8 from me. And oh boy, will the next episode be expensive for the animation budget...

[wrex_japan]

Ep. 15 screenshots and summary. (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=555)

Riful makes her entrance... she sure is a cutey!

[Riful]

some more screenshots over here (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/07/10/claymore-15/)

[Xellos-_^]

Ep. 15 screenshots and summary. (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=555)

Riful makes her entrance... she sure is a cutey!


You are link to Ep14.

[NoSanninWa]

I recognize that I cannot keep people from giving names to characters in the previews. I've long since surrendered fighting that battle. I will however, draw the line at implications of some's purpose. Even though the girl has appeared in this episode nothing should be implied about her future role. If anything is said about a character other than a simple name, I will bring down the ban stick. Xellos-_^'s comment was extremely minor, yet he's gotten a short ban for his innocent trespass.

I hope nobody else will say anything at all.

Ep. 15 screenshots and summary. (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=558)

[Lendial]

oh god this looks bloody as hell, not just fight bloody but kinky torture and impale bloody, sadly i wont be able to watch it for a few more days.

[Fate_Archer]

And oh boy, will the next episode be expensive for the animation budget...

Well, last saturday i had the great pleasure and luck for be in a conversation made by MadHouse in an anime event.

I will certainly talk about this with extra details later, in the Claymore TV series Thread and also in the Death Note Thread, since one of the talkers was actually one of the directors and executive producers of Death Note TV series adapted by MadHouse, which i can't remember his name now.

Regarding that, there was a question made by the audience, it was how much costed the first episode of Claymore.

He said that he couldn't say that because he would betray the Japanese animation market, but as he wanted to be loyal to the fans, he said that every animation has a cost of at least $150.000 each single episode (not particulary MadHouse, in general).

As for Claymore, he said that we could use our imagination based on that information (obviously, a lot more).

As we see, for a great company, it doesn't look so expensive to make a single series at times, but if we think that MadHouse make something about 40 animations in a row and at the same time, and among them 6 are normally well known, we will see that MadHouse's budgets are not so cheap.

There is also Devil May Cry now, and the last two episodes had a really great quality, but i hope MadHouse will keep this quality, especially because this arc will be really special.

By the way, can't wait to see this episode, it's a pity that it will stop before the great fights of this arc.

[hi no ken Jebus]

I'm beginning to love the music for this series:heh: Madhouse loves the heavy metal and hard rock so if there is a second OP or ED maybe some maximum the Hormone will be included like death note and akagi:heh:. Anyway pretty good stuff in this one I like what they did with Clare's voice changes to match the facade as she looks for that little twerp. I was almost expecting Chiwa Saito or Yukari Tamura for the little girl but her VA works just as well. Next one will hopefully have more than speedlines as things will surely heat up.

[yondy]

is the OP still the same?

[The-Ghost]

is the OP still the same?

yes and so is the ed

[Negativedark]

I recognize that I cannot keep people from giving names to characters in the previews. I've long since surrendered fighting that battle. I will however, draw the line at implications of some's purpose. Even though the girl has appeared in this episode nothing should be implied about her future role. If anything is said about a character other than a simple name, I will bring down the ban stick. Xellos-_^'s comment was extremely minor, yet he's gotten a short ban for his innocent trespass.

I hope nobody else will say anything at all.

Ep. 15 screenshots and summary. (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/?p=558)

Well not here. But I may be going into the spoiler thread to vent.
From the look of the screenshots the interesting lighting of Claymores animation style continues.
Anyways, We get to see some new charecters. A Dauf, bieng animated didn't help your looks one bit did it? If there's an ugliest charecter in Claymore contest he could win it in his human form.

[dxanato]

I just finish watch this episode it was good. There is one scene that got me little confuse.
Was Clare imaging what Raki is going through looking for her? At moment I can't recall been in the manga. Speaking of which they add a few extra scene that weren't in the manga at all. I am please by it give a bit more air time for characters.

[Kouvley]

Short summary and some thoughts after watching the raw.

We are given a glimpse of what looks like the leaders of the Org as they question Rubel over Clare's disappearance, they send Galatea to look for her.
The main speaker in this scene is clad in armour - a male claymore perhaps? Probably not as simple as that but I fully expect the org to hold some kind of trump card to keep everything in check.

Clare diguises herself as a male while she asks for infomation on Raki's whereabouts but soon realises her voice is not deep enough when some villagers argue over her gender. :heh:
Kuwashima Houko shows off her incredible range here as she deepens her voice further. :cool:

Coincidently a group of claymores are also in the village hunting an awakened being. The leader is the current #9 Jean - voiced by another veteran hall of famer Kotono Mitsushi. :)

They are no match for the male AB however. One just manages to escape and alerts Clare before dying while the others get tortured with the goal of forcing them to awaken. Giving orders to the AB is a mysterious girl called Riful.

Episode ends with Clare heading towards the AB's location.

Obvious questions arising from this ep:
- who or what is Riful?
- what's she trying to achieve by forcing claymores to awaken?
- Why is a male AB taking orders from her?

Wow, things are getting more interesting by the episode! Which unfortunately makes the wait for the next one even more unbearable. :heh:

[Negativedark]

Non spoiler joke answers for your questions.
- obviously very cute.
- Maybe she's trying to compleate her pokedex, and needs the evolved forms of all the Claymores.
- He doesn't want to go back into his pokeball.

[Lendial]

LOL, clarichu i chooose you.

obviously she is either very strong or has some way of controling the guy.

[cors8]

She's a loli. What else do you need to control a guy?

[Lendial]

well this isnt a guy its a demon guy so im not sure if the standard "motivations" apply.

[dutchman]

Excellent pacing this episode. From the dark mordor like beginning (Claymore HQ) and a brief glimse of Galatea a.k.a Miss Claymore / Glamour Girl. To a nice crossdressing scene of Clare :)

And I really liked the dark vibes which they created when you saw Clare in the end approaching the forboding entrance. Clare has really matured a lot over the last episodes and she is starting to be a worthy fighter in her own right. I wait for the subs to give a final rating.

[hollywoodlou]

I refuse to believe that Clare will forget her love toy, Raki. She's just adjusting her agenda to prioritize her goals.

1. Get stronger and learn new sword techniques.

2. Search and destroy quest to claim Priscilla's head.

3. Lastly, find Raki after she's done with Priscilla.

Simple, doesn't it?

Actually it's...

1) Get stronger, learn new techniques

2) Find out Raki was eaten by Priscilla, which pisses off Clare but makes fans happy...

3) Lastly, Clare finds another boy toy...maybe toy girl:p

[cf18]

Raki should just go back to the holy city, where he has friends who can properly train him.

Are all male awakened going to be sadistic dork?

[Deathkillz]

oo gory ep @_@
i have to say that (though it is embarassing) it took quite a while for me to realize that the one in funny clothes was actually clare...amazing what tied up hair can do to a girl :love: (and she looks soo much better with her hair up :3)
as for the story here he have another case of the crazy loli...she is controling a strong male awakened which leaves me to believe that she herself must be an even stronger awakened...im just loving where this story is heading :D

[Defiled one]

Well The loli can´t be a claymore, she´s too young. So non manga readers..stop dreaming. It´s logic.
About that big thing...it looks like a huge youma on steroids.

Ps: Remember when Loli clare was alive with youma....mmmm:eyebrow: I am sensing some very messed up vibes here.

[Deathkillz]

pfff speculating is part of the fun in this :eyebrow:
and wasnt Priscilla considered young as well? without proof it doesnt state what the minimum age is for being a claymore...

[NoSanninWa]

Well The loli can´t be a claymore, she´s too young. So non manga readers..stop dreaming. It´s logic.
About that big thing...it looks like a huge youma on steroids.

I don't recall anyone making a rule that Claymores need to be at least a certain age.

[ashesatdusk]

*seals mouth with super glue* Oh god yes. I hope they did the voice right. I'm looking forward to this and the next 2 or so they have to be my favourite within claymore.

[striderm]

This ep had some really cool new music. The quality of this series just keeps getting better. :D

[Kouvley]

She's a loli. What else do you need to control a guy?

Of course, it all makes sense now. Fear the lolis!! :p

Not much info to base any speculations on at the moment but I think it's safe to assume Riful is very powerful - possibly a former high ranking claymore, otherwise I doubt she would be able to order a male AB around like that.

As for her motives, my guess is as good as anyone's at the moment. :heh:
All we know so far is she's looking for strong awakened beings.
- to experiment on?
- or maybe she's just bored and looking for a strong opponent?

Looking forward to finding out the answers in the following eps.

[Negativedark]

Speculate.... Some will be right others wrong. But I look forward to your theories. It tends to be quite fascinating.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Riful cute? She is interesting character but cute is not what I think of her.

But I do find scenes of Claire looking for Raki quite touching. Her devotion is what makes me cheer for her.

[toxic_trance]

Subs Are Out Desu~ ^_^

[cors8]

Riful's voice is awesome. Dauf sounds like a moron. Good job with the VA's all around, imo.

It's a nice touch with the added Raki scene, though he's still damn annoying.

Can't wait for next week!

[Guido]

It's a nice touch with the added Raki scene, though he's still damn annoying.


This is getting vexing and out of the limits for me to handle.

Be thankful that you got to witness Riful-chan in all of her sociopathic glory.

[dutchman]

Riful's voice is awesome. Dauf sounds like a moron. Good job with the VA's all around, imo.

Can't wait for next week!

Lol actually my first impression of the anime Dauf was that he still didn't sounded dumb enough. I was expecting him to talk very slow and even more brutish based on the mental image I created for myself based on the manga.:heh:

And yes Riful's voice is spot on.

[ox2]

Non spoiler joke answers for your questions.
- obviously very cute.
- Maybe she's trying to compleate her pokedex, and needs the evolved forms of all the Claymores.
- He doesn't want to go back into his pokeball.


cleaver response :p

[ArmisaelXVIII]

I this episode was very intriguing... another 8 to me.

At last we see some AB that have joined forces, probably to fight their common foe. The male awakened seems pretty strong, but probably the little girl is even stronger. She seems to look for subordinates, his personal army or experimenting like some stated before. May be she is by herself, or also following orders...

I already want to see the next ep... u.u

[Defiled one]

So Clare can change her voice in to a male one....Which brings us again to what Teresa showed to the bandits:rolleyes:

One: Claymore can slightly change their bodies.


Two: The male voice...is it a hint of somesorts?:heh:


Anyways, since the subbs are out.

Youmas have a leader...Looks like they aren´t stupid. And that male awakened looks like a powered version of a Youma. HUGE!! And strong!!

They seem to want more Awakened, strong. And to makes things even weirder. Youmas warned Clare to avoid the mountains before she attacked them.

[GriS]

when riful first appeared, i thought it was flashback to clare's young days! large resemblance in physical appearance... i m also curious of her role in this show, controlling a possible youma to that extent is unbelievable. Is she 'boss' of the youma and is attempting to convert high ranked claymore into their 'slave'?

Nearing the end, she told the monster that he can do what he likes to Jeane. which means she sense the potential in clare and shift the attention to her instead albeit knowing her rank?

all will be answered in next episode, i guess.

cliffhanger again, way to go claymore!

[cf18]

The authur is very clever to have 47 active Claymores - lots of expendables without raising problem.

So Clare is not the first one that took the flesh of strong Claymore. Interesting.

I don't recall anyone making a rule that Claymores need to be at least a certain age.

Yeah. For all we know she could be awaken and escape the .org during the Claymore training phase. And since all yoma can change shape into someone they ate, an awakened being can probably do the same if she wants to.

As for Riful's objective, there is not enough information from this episode for me to speculate too much. We do not see how she control that male awakened (or just a super yoma), or how 4 Claymores manage to get captured. May be she is just a strong psychic. May be she can inject a part of her body into a new awakened to control it, assuming she has all those spikes and regen ability any awakened one has.

She want to make one or more strong awakened being, and will discard the weak ones. What would she want to do with them?

1) Attack and destroy the organization HQ and/or training facility? Just how do the organization defend itself anyway? The training facility is at a fixed location and anyone with strong yuki sense can find it. They probably keep a rotating garrison of trusted Claymores there for protection.

2) To kill a certain very strong awakened being?

3) May be this is how some awaken being 'reproduce'? Or she just want a strong one as a reproducion partner... :uhoh:

[Trax]

4) She wants more friends to play with. But not too weak. ;p

[anselfir]

well i think one of hte first laws of anime physics states that mass is not conserved while a killer loli is present

[Teresa/Clare1415]

This episode was done really well. Can't wait for the next one!

[TinyRedLeaf]

well i think one of the first laws of anime physics states that mass is not conserved while a killer loli is present

*cough* closet paedophiles *cough*

I'll take a grown woman over a little girl any day of the week. All hail Number 3! (Arrgh, she only had 5 secs of air-time this episode). I'd expect more fun to come soon. ;)

[toxic_trance]

Hmm..an 8 from me...i felt they slowed down the pace of the story...but none the less..the episode was made very well. Even with a more of a conversation king of episode with not much revelation of any plot..the episode entertains u, and shows that Yoma are just cattle fodder, and there are way more stronger opponents :)

Next week seems like its goin to be another 10 ^_^...

[yondy]

Yay for the first appearance of Riful and Jeane. :D


Clare looks good with her hair tied. Good to see Galatea again. I'm kind of disappointed with the animation, I guess they're saving the budget for the more action packed episodes later on.

[Seska]

To be a little mean here, this episode here is some kind of silence before the storm...

Curiosity +++

[Defiled one]

Hmm..an 8 from me...i felt they slowed down the pace of the story...but none the less..the episode was made very well. Even with a more of a conversation king of episode with not much revelation of any plot..the episode entertains u, and shows that Yoma are just cattle fodder, and there are way more stronger opponents :)

Next week seems like its goin to be another 10 ^_^...


What if youmas are awakened offspring? those youmas had a leader. i don´t know it´s still too soon.

[EphemeralDream]

While I have yet to read the Claymore manga, i'd like to make some conjectures:

Male claymores were introduced in the beginning of the Claymore program, so it's safe to say that Dauf was an old claymore. Therefore, for him to be taking direct orders from Riful leads me to believe that she's older than him. If that is so, then she must have once been a claymore (and probably of very high rank).

That's the end of my tinfoilhatism. :)

[anselfir]

*cough* closet paedophiles *cough*

I'll take a grown woman over a little girl any day of the week. All hail Number 3! (Arrgh, she only had 5 secs of air-time this episode). I'd expect more fun to come soon. ;)

talking about how killer lolis usually grow appendages of n times their normal loli size once it is time for them to do the fancy moves and stuff

[cf18]

4) She wants more friends to play with. But not too weak. ;p

5) She is trying to make strong AB with special ability, and then she will eat them or absorb the body parts to gain new ability for herself. Kind of like Aptom from Guyver. I mean if Clare can do it with am arm, why can't a smart AB?

[Crueked]

Good episode, but probably the worst out of all 15 imo. I thought the manga made it look a lot better then the anime. Maybe it was the lack of action and the excessive dialogue of Clare looking for Raki.

Next episode looks promising though.

[monir]

well i think one of the first laws of anime physics states that mass is not conserved while a killer loli is present

*cough* closet paedophiles *cough*
LOL.. :heh:

This thread cracks me up every week... and here I thought I was going to express about how disturbed I was by the casual torture and the abundance of brutality that took place in the episode. I quit on my late afternoon lunch in the middle of the episode. Yeah.. as the Japanese animated entertainment has established in so many series, the laws of physics are broken in the presence of killer lolis. Bravo, Anselfir, for this shrewd and insightful observation. :D

[FlareKnight]

Definitely an interesting episode that just has me eager to see next week. Riful is one curious person being able to control youma who really don't take orders much as well as an AB. To go to that extent in torturing claymore's to try and make them awaken...something is quite odd here.

Seems also like that Dauf will be a pain. Even if Kathia wasn't a very high rank he wasn't even stunned by the piercing attacks she used. Maybe thick skinned? Hopefully Clare can handle that and get inside since I don't think Jean can wait much longer.

Always beware the killer loli. When Riful gets going it should be interesting to watch.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Good episode, but probably the worst out of all 15 imo. I thought the manga made it look a lot better then the anime. Maybe it was the lack of action and the excessive dialogue of Clare looking for Raki.

Next episode looks promising though.

The dialogue is needed to established why Claire is in the mountains and disguise herself. Afterall, the story ultimate resolution will be relationship disclosure between Claire and Raki. What is going to happen for them?

[Sci-Fi]

Wish the showed how Jean's group got owned and how that one Claymore escaped. With all those yomas running around the mountain, can't see how she avoided them and made it back to town.

[Deathkillz]

i for one think Riful is as sweet as honey :D shes just looking for more dolls to play with (something which Ophelia was cut short on ~ darn >.<)

[toxic_trance]

But its the lolis to watch out for...i dont think this cutie-pie is gonna pass on her will to No.47 and just die in the sea.... Lots in store for us next week....Next episode is gonna be a cracker..

[killer3000ad]

But its the lolis to watch out for...i dont think this cutie-pie is gonna pass on her will to No.47 and just die in the sea.... Lots in store for us next week....Next episode is gonna be a cracker..

Mmmm.... crack.

No I am not condoning drug use lol! But Claymore is like crack for me!

[Shiroth]

So Clare's a reverse trap, interesting.

The cave of pain is a nice turn of events, can't wait to find out the truth behind all this. A pack of Yoma attacking Clare had me thinking Guyver all over.

& yay Galatea in the preview.

[Anh_Minh]

Wish the showed how Jean's group got owned and how that one Claymore escaped. With all those yomas running around the mountain, can't see how she avoided them and made it back to town.
Maybe she was let go to fetch the next group of victims.

[Mandrake]

Well she could have just used a different route, yoma's always seem suprised when a claymore appear, so it seems their senses arent that attuned, if at all.

[FlareKnight]

Maybe she was let go to fetch the next group of victims.
Yeah that's pretty possible. After all Riful seemed to know that she ran for reinforcements. If they all were killed it'd take a while for more to come. Maybe they did all that damage and figured that she wasn't going to awaken so let her 'escape'.

[xerotwo]

lol is Clare trying to be Saber in such a way?

[zephyrmiasma]

the heavy rain warning in the middle of the episode freaked me out, lol. Sounded like some crappy alarm......

ermmm... Jean looks like a man... :eyespin:
And damn that stupid Raki is still alive.......:twitch:

[Claymore_Obsessed]

this ep had a really awesome bgm when Claire leaves the city! For a nanosecond I thought she was going to headbang ^^

Plus we have Kotono Mitsuishi. What more can I say, a legendary seiyuu for a legendary anime ^^

[Lendial]

the level of torture is absurd i feel really bad for those abused claymores. jeane oddly still cared for kathiya after she awakened.

i really hope clare decapatates dauf. or shreds him to ribbons with flash sword.

[Goofus Maximus]

I was wondering what that noise and flashing text was. If it was a weather warning, I'm surprised there wasn't a weathermap to go with it in the corner...

Having read the manga, I'm biting my tongue so hard that my toes are bleeding...

[Guido]

And damn that stupid Raki is still alive.......:twitch:

Good grief! Clare's boy toy will never die, until they meet again.

[Lendial]

i have a feeling hes going to be in the entire series, perhaps maybe dying in a valient but useless attempt to save clare during the final 1 or 2 eps.

clare will then powerup to a point where she surpasses even teresa.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Wish the showed how Jean's group got owned and how that one Claymore escaped. With all those yomas running around the mountain, can't see how she avoided them and made it back to town.

They can't since they have this thing called budget. More animation, more money.

the heavy rain warning in the middle of the episode freaked me out, lol. Sounded like some crappy alarm......

ermmm... Jean looks like a man... :eyespin:
And damn that stupid Raki is still alive.......:twitch:

Now, I really wondered why everyone hated this poor boy. What he survived and achieved is amazing for mere human. Am I the only one who felt he is the most important character in the show?

[Defiled one]

Raki is fighting sand. Serious business!

[B-day]

the heavy rain warning in the middle of the episode freaked me out, lol. Sounded like some crappy alarm......

ermmm... Jean looks like a man... :eyespin:
And damn that stupid Raki is still alive.......:twitch:

HaHa, heavy rain and possible flood warning. Unless you live at that xx county, why would you freak out.:heh:

[B-day]

Now, I really wondered why everyone hated this poor boy. What he survived and achieved is amazing for mere human. Am I the only one who felt he is the most important character in the show?

I think you are alone in this case. A mere human(weak link) doesn't fit in the world of claymore, plus he cries too often.:heh:

[stormy001_M1A2]

I think you are alone in this case. A mere human(weak link) doesn't fit in the world of claymore, plus he cries too often.:heh:

Well I don't blame him for crying, he almost become somebody's breakfast/lunch/dinner, got kicked out from his home, parents got killed, brother turned into monster. Not to mention his extended family also become food too. Also willing to part ways with the only remaining beloved one in his world when he is convinced it is the right action.

And yet he still retain his sanity and hope. That is laudable achievement, considering his age.

Claymore were once human too and Raki is reminder that even silver eyed witches have human touch. Like it or not, that the reason why I keep cheering for Claire for her decision to be more human rather than become a cliched female Terminator which so common in other anime series featuring female warriors.

[Defiled one]

Well, Raki may be useless. But his innocence makes him very wanted.

Think Raki as the female lead, the damsel in distress, the beautifull maiden that the hero "Clare" has to save, plus he´s nice to her and treats her as a person.

[superzombie23]

Well, Raki may be useless. But his innocence makes him very wanted.

Think Raki as the female lead, the damsel in distress, the beautifull maiden that the hero "Clare" has to save, plus he´s nice to her and treats her as a person.

I randomly thought of Utena.

[Defiled one]

Clare is the male of the relationship while Raki is the female.

[EphemeralDream]

Clare is the male of the relationship while Raki is the female.

Only difference is that this male is half-yoma :P

[Defiled one]

Correction. half-male half-female. :heh:

[striderm]

Still she's quarter-yoma. :P

[Nightbat®]

Nice Ep, it really gave the idea that Clare has traveled to a different part of the (claymore) world
New claymores are always fun (the way their numbers decrease alot less fun though)
can't wait to see what Jean is able to do (hopefully more than bleed, moan and awaken)
no I don't watch the previews at the end of each ep
Raki's journey may have been a good thing to let the viewers know he's still alive
but this ep could've done without it
We're seeing a 4-(wo)man huntingparty being massacred by an AO under orders from a little girl
whom I believe -by her playfull 'act' like many Yoma/AO's- is an AO herself


I'm enjoying the pace of the show
but I'm kind of wondering how the hell they're gonna wrap up this show in 26 eps

-We have a main character with a score to settle
-a Sidekick MIA
-3 mostly unfamiliar high ranked claymores of which one is now looking for clare,
another cleaning Irene's blood of her sword and a third being tortured for the moment
-3 other claymores in parts unknown with eyes of the org burning in their backs
-The organisation with a hidden agenda

and to add:
-Yoma/AO's getting organized?

[Rhyel]

Great Episode. 10/10

Plus for new background music, good add.

Plus: Naruto Claymore?

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/4430/claymorecoolwp7.jpg

:D

[HinaThePrince]

Completely "meh" episode for me. Nothing really interesting happened and the production was... not good. One of the main annoyances for me is that Madhouse keep shoving Clare/Raki where it doesn't belong and it's getting on my nerves. Not to mention they're making Clare act out of character. |:

Also, did anyone notice that Katia's death was the scene with the best animation in the entire show? SRSLY WTF??

Anyway, 5. Because Riful freaking RULED. Awesome, awesome VA. I don't really like Jean's, though, which is weird because she's usually fantastic.

[cf18]

I'm enjoying the pace of the show
but I'm kind of wondering how the hell they're gonna wrap up this show in 26 eps


I am sure it not going to warp everything up. The manga is still ongoing. Hopefully there will be a season 2 of similar quality when the manga is done.

[Salamandra]

when riful first appeared, i thought it was flashback to clare's young days! large resemblance in physical appearance... i m also curious of her role in this show, controlling a possible youma to that extent is unbelievable. Is she 'boss' of the youma and is attempting to convert high ranked claymore into their 'slave'?

Nearing the end, she told the monster that he can do what he likes to Jeane. which means she sense the potential in clare and shift the attention to her instead albeit knowing her rank?

all will be answered in next episode, i guess.

cliffhanger again, way to go claymore!

When she said that, she'd just said "Wow, what a tiny Yoki. Her number seems to be very low. I don't think we can expect much, even if she awakens.", just after stating that she knows Jean's #9. She's saying that he can do whatever he wants with Clare.

[PGilis]

Well I don't blame him for crying, he almost become somebody's breakfast/lunch/dinner, got kicked out from his home, parents got killed, brother turned into monster. Not to mention his extended family also become food too. Also willing to part ways with the only remaining beloved one in his world when he is convinced it is the right action.

And yet he still retain his sanity and hope. That is laudable achievement, considering his age.

Claymore were once human too and Raki is reminder that even silver eyed witches have human touch. Like it or not, that the reason why I keep cheering for Claire for her decision to be more human rather than become a cliched female Terminator which so common in other anime series featuring female warriors.

My thoughts exacty. :D

The many Raki haters here will never admit, but he already proved to be more manly male than any other man in this series.

So far, he already encountered many Youmas, a Crazy Claymore and an A.O. and survived to all of them.

Raki even managed to hit and surprise Ophelia, an one-digit-ranked Claymore! Something not even that two guards of Rabona were able to do when fighting at the same time Clare in episode 3, the weakest of all Claymores!! :eek:

Still, Clare will surely wear the panties in a relationship between them... :heh: ;)

[cors8]

Completely "meh" episode for me. Nothing really interesting happened and the production was... not good. One of the main annoyances for me is that Madhouse keep shoving Clare/Raki where it doesn't belong and it's getting on my nerves. Not to mention they're making Clare act out of character. |:

Also, did anyone notice that Katia's death was the scene with the best animation in the entire show? SRSLY WTF??

Anyway, 5. Because Riful freaking RULED. Awesome, awesome VA. I don't really like Jean's, though, which is weird because she's usually fantastic.

I don't understand what you mean by shoving Clare/Raki where it doesn't belong. Other than the extra scene of Raki in the sand storm, the rest of the dialogue and scenes are pretty similar to the manga, in my opinion.

[cf18]

Raki is fighting sand. Serious business!

The organization HQ is in a sand storm too...

[whitepearl]

I'm gonna give this a generous 8/10. As others have said, this is the proverbial calm before the storm...

My thoughts about the episode... (http://thepottybox.wordpress.com/2007/07/11/claymore-episode-15-%e2%80%94-the-witchs-maw-part-1/)

[Rarity]

I like these kinds of episodes the best. The story set-up and the suspense are more interesting than the action to me.

[Panzerklein]

Poor Jean in this ep. She is a clam a cool person :D.
In the preview for ep 16, Galatea appear again :D.

[Guido]

A good episode, but I digress with the production staff's decision about their choice of music for certain scene; specifically the tune played when Clare goes throughout town searching for Raki.

Aside that, their choice of music scores just mesmerized me. We had a lot of new music bonanza towards the end of the episode.

First thing about Dauf just as I saw him was this guy just gives me the same vibes as Bleach's Yammy. Both dumb and lacking brain power, but truth to be told Dauf goes beyond overindulging himself on steroids intake.

I have complains about the sound effects employed right at the time that Dauf smashed the Awakened Katia into a literal pulp. The sound was heard as if the strike of the punch was soft and shabby.

It should had been a sound that would had denote the noise of a corpse or body breaking apart by a powerful strike.


Here comes, Riful. How can we hate such a loli sociopath? Our little girl prepared a party for Claymore.

Too bad that Riful intended to awake only the highest digit her clutches could grasp on, mainly Jean.


As I said, a good episode. Have some little falls but nothing critical. A solid eight is granted.

And, btw, I'll be scorned and loathed by the Raki haters, but oh well, the hate thread continues to spew more fire to the cauldron.


The crew added quite a few flashback images here and there to signal Clare's emotional value over him. Of course, this would be bad for the Raki haters. After all, their stance about boy toy is a wuss, whiny, who has put Clare over perilous and risky situations for disobeying.

But I do support Raki and even agree with PGilis has earned his merits by his own efforts. Clare's emotional attachment to Raki was a clear contrast about how scumbag the humans of the Claymore world are: they give up on their relatives or precious people the moment they find out or have heard that have gone missing.
Fucking people. They don't deserved to be protected at all.

At least Raki has guts enough to wander alone in the outside world exposed to the perils of the weather, the environment, and the yoma.

[whitepearl]

I liked the new music but the music director, well whoever is in charge of deciding which musical track goes where, doesn't seem to do a good job in how it's used.

Some scenes that could use bgm don't have it, and I notice what happens a lot is that a musical track gets thrown in the background seemingly just so it is there; many times when this happens, the scene is better off without it.

But I did like the new tracks they put in. I hope we hear more of them later on in the series.

[Rotton the Wizard]

I've counted over Dauf 50 poles (:eek:) at 8:28-8:36. With 50 poles you could make:

a raft
a xylophone
a small dam
a sausage stand
a dog house
a yomacar
a monkey bar/swing set for little kids
a throne for a killer loli
50 Raki beating sticks for Raki haters
50 Raki defending sticks for Raki lovers

Ah, the possibilities...:eyespin:

It was also goddamned exciting and appropriate to hear that tense BGM during the dying claymore scene lead up to the angry death metal song.

I'm rooting for Galatea to beat the loving crap out of loli psycho queen next ep.

[Lendial]

i wonder where he gets all those rods, does he store them internaly like kimimaro? i wonder if he'll shoot them from his hands like kimi too.

[FlareKnight]

I can understand being angry at the people for just giving up like that. But we do have to consider what kind of world they are living in and the mind-set people would have to adopt to survive it. With youma, bandits, elements, and heck wild animals there is a good chance for people to die in that world. If someone has gone missing a good chance something has either happened to them or something dangerous will find them long before you do. While I don't like the fact they give up so easily, or how Claymores protect them and they only fear them. I can at least understand where that kind of thinking comes from.

Maybe a positive those who like or dislike Raki can take in is that he's surviving out there. In a very dangerous world he's still moving forward. The longer he goes about doing that the more I'll really respect him.

What a brutal way to get Claymore's to awaken. Just keep injuring them in incredibly painful ways until they can't take it anymore and awaken. Sure if you've got a very strong willed one they might die from their injuries first...but that's not really Riful's problem is it?

Hope Jean can get out of this alive. Right now she's in pretty rough shape and it'd be too bad for her to die without seeing #9 in action. Plus I'm curious how they ended up caught. She seemed surprised to see Dauf's awakened form so maybe some kind of trap. Would have to be something to take down that group but still not kill them.

[bullrogg]

i thought it was a great episode...but it was way too quick -_-...now another week to wait

[chrry370]

It was a good episode...I actually like number 9 considering her short time in episode 15... I wonder will she play a huge part in Clare's adventures? Another ally? Well...the thing i hate most about Claymore is that we have to wait for the next episode...

btw, doesn't the girl remind you of chibi Clare minus the hair/eye colour?

[killer3000ad]

Yeah, see Clare needs another toy now that Raki's gone wandering blindly in the desert. Additionally, she figures that the Org is probably after her, so she needs some leverage and has decided to rescue a damsel in distress. That way she gets a new tag along (and more much useful one at that, not a hapless cook) and also earns some brownie points with the upper echelon. Two birds with one stone!:p

PS Also if she rescues Jean, any other Claymore she runs into can no longer say,"Is he your toy boy?". Instead they'll be saying,"Oh crud! she's got her own crew!"

[Mgz]

Plus: Naruto Claymore?



:dots:

OH GOD :upset: :frustrated: :nono:

that would be our worst NIGHTMARE, don't ever mention it again. :frustrated:

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I wonder why would the loli bother to try to awaken the lowbie claymore since she knows damn well that lowbie claymore --> weaksauce A.O . just kill on sight the lowbie one imo :cool: Maybe there is a small chance (10%?) that lowbie claymore turns into strong A.O ?

and the numberous "poles" of the male A.O, ehem *clear throat* ... they look like... :twitch::eyespin:

[stormy001_M1A2]

Yeah, see Clare needs another toy now that Raki's gone wandering blindly in the desert. Additionally, she figures that the Org is probably after her, so she needs some leverage and has decided to rescue a damsel in distress. That way she gets a new tag along (and more much useful one at that, not a hapless cook) and also earns some brownie points with the upper echelon. Two birds with one stone!:p

PS Also if she rescues Jean, any other Claymore she runs into can no longer say,"Is he your toy boy?". Instead they'll be saying,"Oh crud! she's got her own crew!"

I don't think having a leverage is what she motivated to assist in hunting the Awaken One this time. She is motivated by her comrade's plight and any warrior worth a salt will mount a rescue in event of her/his comrade who need help without hesitation.

This is what brotherhood of arms is all about.

Claire is a decent, upright and honest personality. She is no Machiavelli.

[EoT]

Another amazing episode. I love this series, there is not one segment of a episode where I've had the thought of fast forwarding.

I feel sorry for that squad.. 2 people brutally murdered and the other 2 had poles inserted into them.. truley sick I hope that Yoma or Awakened whatever it is dies a brutal death.

[Sorrow-K]

Damn, Madhouse know how to create an absorbing atmosphere.

Not much to say, either good or bad about this ep, except that it was really intriguing. Given that most of the series consists of arcs that last three or so eps, we've seen quite a few of these "set up" episodes at the beginning of these arcs that establish the conflict, but don't really do anything profound, plot-wise (except end on a cliffhanger). I could see the structure getting tiresome in the long run, but it's interesting for the moment, which is why it's probably a good thing this series is only slated for 26 eps. Speaking of that, I can't believe we're already up to 15. It really hasn't felt like that at all. In fact, it still feels a bit like the story is only in its initial stages. And while it's a good thing for now, since the show still remains fresh and exciting, I hope that isn't a sign of a crappy, unfulfilling ending down the track.

[TougeSil80]

It'll probably take another season to end the main story, so I predict we'll definitely get a crappy ending this season.

[HinaThePrince]

I don't understand what you mean by shoving Clare/Raki where it doesn't belong. Other than the extra scene of Raki in the sand storm, the rest of the dialogue and scenes are pretty similar to the manga, in my opinion.

There's also the part where Clare looks out the window and the inn keeper comes in and tells her that there aren't many people who'd go look for their lost relatives, and she says "It surprises me too". Then he asks her what she meant and she said "N-nothing."

Putting the fact that the inn keeper's line was completely nonsensical and made no sense whatsoever - Clare. Stuttering. While thinking of Raki. If I didn't know any better, I'd think that part was from some crappy fanfic.

Also, when the Claymore dies in her arms. In the manga, she tosses away her fake identity and marches on to fight for her comrades. But in the anime? "Raki..."
Why Raki? What on earth did that scene have to do with Raki? Where is Clare's care for her comrades? WTF???

I randomly thought of Utena.

What. Why. o_o

[Anh_Minh]

"Raki, I'm sorry but searching for you has just been put on the backburner."

[Child_of_Sierra]

I like the pacing of this episode.

Even if it is the "calm before the storm" there was enough "shock factor" (for anime-only watchers)in the torture scenes. It also introduced two enigmatic characters whose purpose in the story certainly raises the suspense of the show. The episode also ends with just enough information to encourage massive speculation on what happens next.

[WanderingKnight]

Putting the fact that the inn keeper's line was completely nonsensical and made no sense whatsoever

Yeah, definitely reminded me of old console RPGs... it almost seemed like an event out of a NES Final Fantasy or something like that :heh:

[Mentar]

What's supposedly not making sense with his line? I sense another case of smart aleckism which knows better how the world of Claymore looks like than the author himself.

Basically, what the mangaka is telling us is: In this world, people who disappear don't tend to come back. Considering the Yoma and bandit threats which we've already seen, this seems to be a common occurrence when you go travelling. I can't see any problem with that.

In this world, people who insist on searching for others anyway are rare, and consequently, the innkeeper concludes that the missing boy must be particularly important to his guest. That, in itself, isn't illogical either (though it's obvious that it's primarily a rhetorical trick for the author to thematize Clare's and Raki's devotion to each other).

So, what exactly is supposedly not making sense here?

[zato_1one]

There's also the part where Clare looks out the window and the inn keeper comes in and tells her that there aren't many people who'd go look for their lost relatives, and she says "It surprises me too". Then he asks her what she meant and she said "N-nothing."

Putting the fact that the inn keeper's line was completely nonsensical and made no sense whatsoever - Clare. Stuttering. While thinking of Raki. If I didn't know any better, I'd think that part was from some crappy fanfic.
At this point, you should know that Madhouse loves to give some hints to viewer. This isn't an exception. This fact shows how cruel in Claymore world. As a manga reader (don't know about anime only viewer), I can feel this connection while watching this Ep. But it can be just me, though. :)

Also, when the Claymore dies in her arms. In the manga, she tosses away her fake identity and marches on to fight for her comrades. But in the anime? "Raki..."
Why Raki? What on earth did that scene have to do with Raki? Where is Clare's care for her comrades? WTF???
Completely agree with Anh_Minh. She said that because she still gives priority to Raki but the schedule must be postponed now. :p

It shows that Clare still has an affection with Raki. And I really prefer that the producer decided to omit "that" dialog in manga when Clare expressed her feeling about Raki to those kids. :D

[CodySilver]

What's supposedly not making sense with his line? I sense another case of smart aleckism which knows better how the world of Claymore looks like than the author himself.

Basically, what the mangaka is telling us is: In this world, people who disappear don't tend to come back. Considering the Yoma and bandit threats which we've already seen, this seems to be a common occurrence when you go travelling. I can't see any problem with that.

In this world, people who insist on searching for others anyway are rare, and consequently, the innkeeper concludes that the missing boy must be particularly important to his guest. That, in itself, isn't illogical either (though it's obvious that it's primarily a rhetorical trick for the author to thematize Clare's and Raki's devotion to each other).

So, what exactly is supposedly not making sense here?
I agree with you... and I cant understand why people are complaining about the inn's keeper dialog...

And the manga ommited dialog.... if people are complaining about the "Raki..." thing, I can imagine what they would say about the ommited one...

Good episode.... some changes here and there, new musics.... but not much happened.... 8/10.

[Rhyel]

Clare not need to say anything. Just remember the blooded hand of near death claymore. "Raki" is mean "Raki, I will search for you after this"

PS: The scene of mutilated Claymore with Clare... it made my spine to freeze. :(

The sound of the death of that claymore .... Ohhh my.

[Anh_Minh]

Well, I'd say the problem with Claymore's innkeepers is that they really like dashing the hopes of their guests.

First there was that guy in the Slashers: "Sorry to break it to you, kid, but your Claymore friend is most likely dead like the dozens that came before her. Oops, sorry, forget I said anything."

And now there's "You're still searching for him? How admirable! >_> How futile, too..."

[stormy001_M1A2]

Shopkeepers in Claymore world are easily the wisest, most cynical bunch I guess.

[cors8]

I find it kind of funny that no one has complained about the added Teresa stuff. As much as I hate Raki, at least be fair about it.

I also think that Madhouse is making up for missed lines from the manga that added to the darkness of the world they live in through the innkeepers.

[Negativedark]

I agree with you... and I cant understand why people are complaining about the inn's keeper dialog...

And the manga ommited dialog.... if people are complaining about the "Raki..." thing, I can imagine what they would say about the ommited one...

Good episode.... some changes here and there, new musics.... but not much happened.... 8/10.

I haven't seen the anime, but I'm going to guess as to what it is. The thing I really love about that is the looks on the two kids faces afterwards, they just crack me up.

[Sinestra]

the last parts of this episode were pretty twisted. At least now we know for sure there is a plan being hatched as the Yoma are now acting as a group. As if things werent bad enough we now have a sadistic loli calling the shots. I can only see more bloodshed, hopefully Clare will hold on her limbs this time. As for who the orginzation sent after Clare i cant wait to see who she is since they only described her as HER she must be pretty bad ass. Seems like orginally Clare was meant to be some type of expirment that they deemed a faiuler, thats very interesting to here since they dont seem to have given up on her yet

[TinyRedLeaf]

As for who the orginzation sent after Clare i cant wait to see who she is since they only described her as HER she must be pretty bad ass.


The cameo at the beginning of the episode wasn't enough of a hint? Well...here's another, which Claymore does Ermita handle (watch Ep 9 again to check)? ;)

[CodySilver]

I haven't seen the anime, but I'm going to guess as to what it is. The thing I really love about that is the looks on the two kids faces afterwards, they just crack me up.
Oh yeah, those looks were amazing.... but we did not see them in anime nor the previous speech.... a shame, i loved that, eheheh

[cf18]

Shopkeepers in Claymore world are easily the wisest, most cynical bunch I guess.

They sure talk a lot, like you would expect out of a bartender in any JRPG. I guess in a boring town 4 Claymores showing up is a big news and everyone would talk about it.

Speaking of bar, can a Claymore get drunk? It would suck to find yourself 'awaken' in a bad way after a hangover. :heh:

[Lendial]

i doubt they are allowed to indulge in mortal pleasure. their physiology probly disalows them from getting drunk or catching a cold though, clare is aparently able to reshape her vocal cords to manipulate her voice so id wager they can do all sorts of interesting things to their own bodies.

galatea returns! im actualy more excited to see her than i am to see duaf vs clare or the little girl penatrate jeane some more.

[B-day]

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galatea returns! im actualy more excited to see her than i am to see duaf vs clare or the little girl penatrate jeane some more.

Yeah, Miss claymore is going to kick some ass, the coming episodes should be awesome.:p hopefully we can learn more about that "little"girl Riful.

[PGilis]

I just hope she will not kick CLARE's ass instead! :heh: After all, Galatea is going after Clare, not after the crazy loli Rufil and her big Ken doll favorite, The Duffman.

On a side note, no wonder Clare wants her boy toy Raki back. Just every other male she met so far are just spineless wimps OR sick twisted monsters OR stupid jerks! Decent males in the Claymore world are pretty rare, you guys don't think? ;) :D

[Bikerider]

This ep shows that Rubul is doing his best to protect Clare. Seems the Org is uneasy with her existance.

[PGilis]

This ep shows that Rubul is doing his best to protect Clare. Seems the Org is uneasy with her existance.


I don't think Rubel was really protecting Clare. After all, when he gave her the order to join Ophelia to hunt the one-digit-A.O., he was pretty sure she would die even thought she said she won't, considerating the comment he did.

Still, maybe he is really a little different than the others from the Organization. After all, he was Clare's contact, so he knows her a little better than the others.

He was the one to whom Clare asked to put Teresa's flesh and blood inside her when a child, in a attempt to someday revenge her killing Priscilla. He was the one who saw Clare taking care of a human boy, just like Teresa did with her, and he was the one who saw Clare survive plenty of times against all the possibilities, fighting many stronger enemies.

Most likely, Rubel already saw Clare's determination and learned a long time ago for not underestimate her. She is a tough girl. :)


EDIT: On a side note, how Clare got more of those youki-suppression pills? I thought she already used all in the Rabona Arc.

[Seska]

This ep shows that Rubul is doing his best to protect Clare. Seems the Org is uneasy with her existence.

Well, she is a prototype of other "Claymore" production line... They say it in the beginning...

They gave Clare, Teresas blood and Flesh. to test out, if the Power of her, turn into Clare's one... She is a Claymore outside the "production" line... She is a exception...

[Sinestra]

The cameo at the beginning of the episode wasn't enough of a hint? Well...here's another, which Claymore does Ermita handle (watch Ep 9 again to check)? ;)

oh shit it just appeared right in my head after reading your post LOL. Thanks i dont know why it didnt click before:twitch:

[Kinematics]

EDIT: On a side note, how Clare got more of those youki-suppression pills? I thought she already used all in the Rabona Arc.

From the manga, she apparently had a few left that she never gave back (for whatever reason), though she was almost out when she got to the inn in the city.

Speculation for "Rubel's a forward thinker/decent guy": He let her keep them for the likely event that she would eventually need to hide from the Org.

Speculation for "Clare's a practical gal": She kept them in reserve for when she'd need them again.

Speculation for "Raki's a dumb.. er, intelligent quatermaster": Raki had such a confusing system for packing everything away that Clare couldn't find them to give back to Rubel after the mission.

[FatPianoBoy]

My opinion of Rubel has gone up recently, so it could be that he let her keep them. However, he seems to be growing concerned after she's been missing for so long. He also didn't sound very confident when he stated that the probability of her dispatching Ophelia was close to zero. He's becoming quite interesting.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Rubel maybe playing the role of Deep Throat. But that remained to be seen if he really have that in him.

[redmeat]

Rubel certainly knows that Clare's ability to survive seemingly impossible situations is due to her uncanny ability to corrupt almost every person she meets.

[khryoleoz]

We manga readers know what's coming, but the cool thing is that the action scenes tend to be better done here on the anime. I'm very excited and can hardly wait for the next two episodes following it.

[Flora20709]

Yea This Ep was really good cant wait for the next ep

[Defiled one]

Clare is a prototype. She´s an experiment, even though 47 ranked. I am pretty sure of who they sent though. Which probably means that they want Clare to return even agains`t her will.

Heavy artillary is gonna be deployed. I wonder how clare will will survive? looks like she´s gonna end in a lab. :heh: old man has a perverted face don´t you think?

[Mentar]

As if things werent bad enough we now have a sadistic loli calling the shots.

Mhh, I don't think so. Riful didn't show any enjoyment in the torture Duff was handing out (he however showed clear signs of sadistic pleasure doing it). Her goal is simple, to make the Claymores awaken. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Defiled one]

For what purpose? We might ask?

They seem to want a strong female awakened. But for what?

[Anh_Minh]

Make strong Awakened Ones.
???
Conquer the World.
Profit!

[PGilis]

Just let her meet Raki - the official Claymore lover and Youma's bait - just once. Her main purposes will change in a blink! :D

[PakSniper786]

I just got done watching this episode, and just 1 warning don't eat anything while watching this, but I must say the torture was fantastically animated.

[Amirali]

I can understand being angry at the people for just giving up like that. But we do have to consider what kind of world they are living in and the mind-set people would have to adopt to survive it. With youma, bandits, elements, and heck wild animals there is a good chance for people to die in that world. If someone has gone missing a good chance something has either happened to them or something dangerous will find them long before you do. While I don't like the fact they give up so easily, or how Claymores protect them and they only fear them. I can at least understand where that kind of thinking comes from.


Regarding the comment that people only fear the claymores that protect them:

The fact that Claymores occasionally awaken and go on killing sprees can't be good for human trust (depending on how widely known awakenings are). Add to that Claymores like Ophelia who kill humans. And more broadly speaking, the average Claymore is very cold and standoffish to those she helps. Even with Teresa, back in episode 5 we saw how she enjoyed scaring the villagers she saved with threats of a yoma returning if they didn't pay up. Also, lets remember how she kicked around clare after killing those yomas. See it from the perspective of the villagers; they probably perceived Teresa as a hard-hearted monster for abusing a poor child.

I'm not even sure that villagers hate or fear the Claymores as much as we think they do. As we saw with Teresa in ep 7 when she saved the villagers from a Yoma , she got genuine thanks , and in Rabona (after a rocky start) Clare got a lot of respect and appreciation even though that place is one of the most anti-claymore we've seen. When Claymores show some humanity and personal care they don't get too bad of a treatment from the people. I can't speak for all cases obviously...........but I think its unfair to say that Claymores are mere victims outcast and misunderstood by a cruel society. They play at least some part in that exclusion themselves, as does the organization and the way they train the claymores without genuine human contact.

I don't think Rubel was really protecting Clare. After all, when he gave her the order to join Ophelia to hunt the one-digit-A.O., he was pretty sure she would die even thought she said she won't, considerating the comment he did.

Still, maybe he is really a little different than the others from the Organization. After all, he was Clare's contact, so he knows her a little better than the others.

He was the one to whom Clare asked to put Teresa's flesh and blood inside her when a child, in a attempt to someday revenge her killing Priscilla. He was the one who saw Clare taking care of a human boy, just like Teresa did with her, and he was the one who saw Clare survive plenty of times against all the possibilities, fighting many stronger enemies.

Most likely, Rubel already saw Clare's determination and learned a long time ago for not underestimate her. She is a tough girl. :)


It is interesting that right after Rubel questioned Clare about her wish to kill Priscila (in ep 9), he has been sending her on a series of difficult missions. Either he wants her to get stronger, or he wants her killed or he's not playing any major role in the org's decision making afterall or (and this is what I think) he wants to test the limit of her powers and see what she can achieve. Hopefully, time will show which option holds.

Or here's the wildcard: Rubel secretly in love with Clare?

[miroku2192]

well someone brought up that the little girl who is controlling the male AO might be a former high-ranking claymore. Well further developing that...it could be possible that she really is. Maybe she found out that the organization is a total bitch and doesn't give a damn about the claymores (like miria earlier pointed out in episode...10 ish). Maybe she wants to get the claymores to turn into AO and as a result, turn their backs on the organization; thus getting her revenge:heh:.

yeah i highly doubt it...:(

or maybe she already is an awakened one similar to clare and miria, where she came stopped in between the process? ya ya?

[miroku2192]

oh yeah and about rubel...maybe he really is trying to get her killed? Cuz as someone earlier pointed out, since rubel saw how teresa took in a little kid and eventually betrayed the organization, (and history tends to repeat itself) maybe he's trying to prevent her from going crazy and turning her back on the organization (since she took in a kid too)

[Amirali]

accidental doublepost

[Lendial]

rubel has some major alterier motives and plans of his own. or he could just be a minor character who wont do much in the series. im inclinded to believe the second cause hes not a tall blonde chick with a big sword :)

[FatPianoBoy]

rubel has some major alterier motives and plans of his own. or he could just be a minor character who wont do much in the series. im inclinded to believe the second cause hes not a tall chick with a big sword :)

I'm inclined to believe the former for the same reason: the series is called "Claymore," so there's probably a reason for a character who isn't a Claymore to be getting so much attention.

[Amirali]

rubel has some major alterier motives and plans of his own. or he could just be a minor character who wont do much in the series. im inclinded to believe the second cause hes not a tall blonde chick with a big sword :)

Who said it has to be a sword? His character design reminds me Alucard from Hellsing..........I'm just waiting for him to pull a pair of Magnum 47s from those long sleeves and go all nasty on Awakened Beings. Heh, it wouldn't surprise me if the organization would find out about gunpowder and then keep it as their own secret so that the rest of the world still needs claymores.

[Trax]

I'm inclined to believe the former for the same reason: the series is called "Claymore," so there's probably a reason for a character who isn't a Claymore to be getting so much attention.

It's only natural he shows up regularly; he's Clare's handler. Other than that, I don't think it's possible to predict whether he is going to play a bigger part or not.

[ArmisaelXVIII]

Either way it's a fact that the organization was sending claymores to die against a power male-awakened one that they can't handle. It's was probably the same for Ophelia and Clare, and may be... for jean and his team.

The MiB probably just follow orders, some of them more willingly than others. At least it doesn't seem that Rubel is trying to kill Clare particularly, he probably is just interested.

Riful probably just want to have an army of powerful awakened ones. An awakened one is far more powerful than a normal youma, but having to much of them would be troublesome, they eat more and it may be more dificult to control them. So she probably want few but powerful slaves.

[Poochi]

I liked Clare's new outfit, and her hairstyle looks better like that. And I loved the "imminent smack down" music that was played after that Claymore died in Clare's arms.

I can totally see Clare rescuing Jean, then Jean being ordered to kill Clare by the Org in the future, but decides against it since she's her savior, and then subsequently joining forces to become ... The Fab Five!

Anyhow, random innkeepers have redeemed themselves in this ep.

And was Rubel's name ever actually mentioned in the anime?

[Negativedark]

By the way, I figure I might as well post the line they cut from the anime. It's not as bad as the Prostitute smile Claire gave Raki after the kiss, but still, as a friend of mine would say "No hetrosexual man would ever say that."Claire "He's my Bro... NO... He's very important to me. I care abuot him so much that I promesed I'd find him even if I had to risk my life." The boy has a WTF?! look on his face, and the girl has an "aw that's so sweet" look on hers. That panel always cracks me up.

[ItachiGT]

By the way, I figure I might as well post the line they cut from the anime. It's not as bad as the Prostitute smile Claire gave Raki after the kiss, but still, as a friend of mine would say "No hetrosexual man would ever say that."Claire "He's my Bro... NO... He's very important to me. I care abuot him so much that I promesed I'd find him even if I had to risk my life." The boy has a WTF?! look on his face, and the girl has an "aw that's so sweet" look on hers. That panel always cracks me up.

I think that girl somehow feel that she isn't a man right at the beginning........you know females i think can sense it somehow:heh: instead of just loocking at the big sword etc.^^

[Sinestra]

Mhh, I don't think so. Riful didn't show any enjoyment in the torture Duff was handing out (he however showed clear signs of sadistic pleasure doing it). Her goal is simple, to make the Claymores awaken. Nothing more, nothing less.

I could have sworn i got a hint of some type of pleasure from her. I guess i just got the feeling either way its was still F up. I mean all those poles OUCH

[stormy001_M1A2]

Riful did not exhibit any feelings about the torture sequence, to her it is just part of her work.

[Deathkillz]

By the way, I figure I might as well post the line they cut from the anime. It's not as bad as the Prostitute smile Claire gave Raki after the kiss, but still, as a friend of mine would say "No hetrosexual man would ever say that."Claire "He's my Bro... NO... He's very important to me. I care abuot him so much that I promesed I'd find him even if I had to risk my life." The boy has a WTF?! look on his face, and the girl has an "aw that's so sweet" look on hers. That panel always cracks me up.
oh ouch...i can almost hear her voice saying such a thing O.O must be love...yea...:uhoh:
i think it was a good idea to leave that part out...wouldnt want to see that kid drowing himself to get rid of any funny images XD

[Shinen]

And was Rubel's name ever actually mentioned in the anime?

Clare says his name once, first or second episode. And it's always listed in the credits if he has some speaking part.
But in any case "Rubel" is not his correct name, in Katakana his name is Ruvuru ルヴル , there is absolutely no reason to turn the "v" into a "b", so it could be Ruvel or Ruvul. But it's most likely based on the Louvre museum, which is Ruuvuru in Katakana ルーヴル (all the other names of the organization's members are based on museums as well), so Luvre or Louvr or something like that would be the most appropriate spelling (I can see how Luvr doesn't work in English though :heh: )

For this episode I felt that it ended way too soon, but it was well done and quite ewww :upset: Looking forward to the next ones.

[yondy]

Does Madhouse have any plan to change the op? I'm quite disappointed that they didn't even bother updating the OP, like replacing Ophelia and Irene with Jean and Galatea, it's getting outdated.

[Seska]

Ophelia and Irene are now part of Clare's background.

Irene Her Fighting Arm to survive
Ophelia her Resolve Fighting master

And Jean and Galatea, has nothing to do with her background....

[ItachiGT]

Who is Jean? xD...........lol^^:heh:

[Seska]

To be fair, the Last remain Claymore at the end...

Her name is Jean, but no more will come from my typing :)

One of her comrade, called her by name in the city...

[EasyPrey]

Does Madhouse have any plan to change the op? I'm quite disappointed that they didn't even bother updating the OP, like replacing Ophelia and Irene with Jean and Galatea, it's getting outdated.

It is possible (and likely) that this Anime will diverge from the Manga as it gets near the end. So Manga may not have more insight than Anime watchers. Of course I don't have any first hand knowledge to say that conclusively, but just a guess on my part.

Both Irene/Illene and Ophelia are already part of the opening. So far, we just have not seen enough of Jean to justify her as a main character. Who knows, she may be dead by next week (killed by the male awaken being). Obviously, they just can't have every single character in the opening.

This is an educated guess on my part, but I don't believe that Madhouse will be changing the opening or closing for the entire run of the Anime.

-EasyPrey

[Seska]

Spoiler Policy

* Any spoiler that reveals future events, even under a spoiler tag, will be deleted.
Spoiler tags should still be used where appropriate.

Anime: We are at the point, where Clare don't know nothing about special chicks... Please keep that in mind, if you replay with Manga wisdom background... Anime time line and Manga time line... You get my point?

Sorry, if i sound like a Old Hag, but ,my reason is displayed in my Signature...

[dxanato]

I blame Yondy for direction on of this topic.

[whitepearl]

Does Madhouse have any plan to change the op? I'm quite disappointed that they didn't even bother updating the OP, like replacing Ophelia and Irene with Jean and Galatea, it's getting outdated.

They can change the animation itself but they better keep the same music, imo.

[B-day]

You can see "little dark hair girl" in OP, yet she just appears in ep 15. So I suppose she will play a major role in the coming episodes.;) Why name this arc "The Witch's Maw". Who is the "witch", little dark hair girl?:confused::D

[Cadorna]

you will see maybe in the next ep, i wainting foward to it

[redmeat]

The witch is the girl who will give Clare the beserker armor so that she could power herself up enough to defeat Priscilla! Puck will come in sooner or later to help Clare :p

Can't wait for the eclipse to happen

[flick]

This is definitely one of the best episodes since about 9 or 10 imho. :)

[Lendial]

the small cute harmless ones are always evil badasses.

[Kamesan]

I thought Clare looked cute with her new hairstyle and you quickly find out that she's trying to look like a guy. :(

[EasyPrey]

the small cute harmless ones are always evil badasses.

I would have to agree with that. Just in case anyone has any doubts, I offer indisputable proof.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c88/EasyPrey/kitty_firing_a_gun3.jpg

[guest]

Why does everyone think that Duff is a male awaken one? Why can’t he be a yoma? Why is that female awaken ones are all pretty while the males are all ugly, at least prettier than their male couterpart?

[Seska]

Why does everyone think that Duff is a male awaken one? Why can’t he be a yoma? Why is that female awaken ones are all pretty while the males are all ugly, at least prettier than their male couterpart?

Easy....

Fan service or call it Ecchi, what you like :)

[BrokenWingz]

Why does everyone think that Duff is a male awaken one? Why can’t he be a yoma? Why is that female awaken ones are all pretty while the males are all ugly, at least prettier than their male couterpart?

Think about it, he destroyed an awakened claymore with one blow. (not counting the first sissy punch:heh:)

[cors8]

Why does everyone think that Duff is a male awaken one? Why can’t he be a yoma? Why is that female awaken ones are all pretty while the males are all ugly, at least prettier than their male couterpart?

Why would it be a Yoma? From all we've seen so far, there has been no indication of any of Yoma with that much power compared to an awakened being.

Why do you think it's a Yoma?

[B-day]

So, Yomas are just little pawns now, awakened beings are the real deal:D

[Majek]

So, Yomas are just little pawns now, awakened beings are the real deal:D
Of course. That's why the make hybrids , even of one side eventually takes over.

[Negativedark]

Why does everyone think that Duff is a male awaken one? Why can’t he be a yoma? Why is that female awaken ones are all pretty while the males are all ugly, at least prettier than their male couterpart?

Well we think he's an awakened because he's way bigger than a normal Youma. Remember Youma don't really seem to have much difference in their apperence. Nor do they really seem to have names.
And we've only seen two male awakened. For all we know the rest could all be increadable Bishonen.

[Lendial]

i think i heard the yoma release sound effect right before dauf got bigger.

[B-day]

Well, it is obvious now the real problems are not little Yomas, but awakened beings. :heh: The organization creates claymores to kill yomas, but many claymores turn into some very powerful awakened beings. The Organization creates more problems than it solves. Just like the Bush admininstration.:heh::heh::heh::heh::heh:

[EasyPrey]

I agree that the org is creating problems.

So far, they only created two problems by my count: Priscilla (big one), Duf (dumb one).

They do try to clean up their messes. For example they tried to kill Tressa and Illene/Irene. The fact that their attempt to kill Tressa blew up in their face, is besides the point.

As for the gentle child Duf was with, she probably has the same relationship with Duf, that Clare had with Tressa.

-EasyPrey

[FlareKnight]

Seemed to me Dauf was an awakened one. Minus the difference in comparison to the youma we've seen so far, he's also got that very odd ability to pull out metal pipes(?) out of himself. What we've seen of youma certainly is a pretty uniform shape and abilities, though of course slight differences since they aren't clones.

They've created I'd say a whole lot more than 2 problems. I very much doubt Dauf and Priscilla are the only awakened ones out there. Just because they haven't handed the audience a list doesn't mean they don't exist. Like Rubel said they pretty much leave them alone unless a request comes out to kill them. So they aren't trying to clean up their messes.

Funny how the only ones they try to clean up are Teresa and Irene who were simply wanting to be left alone. Heck could have gone after Teresa for economic reasons. If she kept killing youma on her own they wouldn't get any cash for the work it'd be bad for business.

Somehow I think the Dauf/Ribel situation is about as far away from Teresa/Clare as you can get. She's clearly controlling him and isn't some normal little girl. Whatever her agenda is it circles around creating strong awakened ones. I'm very much doubtful that she's human. We can see from episode 12 that awakened ones don't have to appear as adults.

[Defiled one]

Well, maybe the awakened can breed Youmas?

Clare said something about being coordinated. The youmas didn´t attacked clare in the first place, they said that she should turn around, dangerous ancient youmas..etc

Strange, considering that they often attack humans for food and they didn´t know clare was a claymore until she atacked them.

Could this be the so called youma nest that people talk about?:rolleyes:

[apotheosis]

I agree that the org is creating problems.
As for the gentle child Duf was with, she probably has the same relationship with Duf, that Clare had with Tressa.
-EasyPrey
You mean the sadistic evil lil loli who got mad at Duf when he stuck another rod into Jean without her permission? (though she was cute when she got mad, you have to admit). Gentle children don't usually torture people as part of experiments ;)

[Defiled one]

Look. For all I know Duph and his little friend could be very well brother and sister. We must also remember one weird thing.

Beauty and the Beast. he could be an awakened that was alone and adopted a child.

Clare was hanging with youmas when she was that girl age so it´s normal to assume that it´s the same relationship Clare had with the youmas.

The girl had just clicked and developed a Stockholm Syndrome or something. but to me. Since this is japanese. It´s probably the Lima Syndrome.

[EasyPrey]

You mean the sadistic evil lil loli who got mad at Duf when he stuck another rod into Jean without her permission?

Given the intelligence level of the big guy, he could have hired a "torture consultant". Who among has us not not hired a "torture consultant" ourselves? ;)

(though she was cute when she got mad, you have to admit).

I admit. :)

Gentle children don't usually torture people as part of experiments ;)

Technically speaking, she never tortured anyone. :D

-EasyPrey

[ArmisaelXVIII]

Irene said that even if claymores don't age they actually grown. So that little girl probably was something like priscilla, a young girl that achieved top ranking (probably above number five) in short time, and awakened before growing up.

It's probably safe to assume that awakened beings don't age nor grown.


PS: Someone actually voted 1 o_O

[Defiled one]

He or her probably knows where this is going. "Insert evil smiley here, really evil smiley":rolleyes:


Does loli gona die? :heh:

Boy, I sure give tension to the non manga readers. :heh:

[NoSanninWa]

PS: Someone actually voted 1 o_O


Two people. They probably are just making an absurdist statement about the meaninglessness of polls as a way to measure feelings.

[Deathkillz]

He or her probably knows where this is going. "Insert evil smiley here, really evil smiley":rolleyes:


Does loli gona die? :heh:

Boy, I sure give tension to the non manga readers. :heh:
not really as it is fairly predictable that they are going to die...first the big guy when clare slices and dices then loli chan would be like "you weak fool i shall make this new claymore into my slave instead" then she will turn beserk (considering that she is an awakened) and then a epic fight where clare looses an limb or two but in the end manages to crush loli chan...

/speculation

[Negativedark]

Man next tuesday can't come soon enough... I'm really loving some of the thoeries though. But I've got to watch my fingers. Don't want to get in trouble. Now that I think about it I'm wondering who the Cuter Loli is, Claire as a child or Riful...

[Insearchof]

I can't to see "her" (yeah, "her") kick ass. As for the little loli I hope I it's not gonna be long before she has her plot moment.

[GundamZZ]

Ever wonder how she carries the weapon that is taller than her?

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4839/fingerbp6.jpg

[B-day]

Look. For all I know Duph and his little friend could be very well brother and sister. We must also remember one weird thing.

Beauty and the Beast. he could be an awakened that was alone and adopted a child.

Clare was hanging with youmas when she was that girl age so it´s normal to assume that it´s the same relationship Clare had with the youmas.

The girl had just clicked and developed a Stockholm Syndrome or something. but to me. Since this is japanese. It´s probably the Lima Syndrome.

Don't forget, little dark hair girl can sense Clare's "tiny yoki" was approaching. She can't be a "normal" child like Raki. But if she is(was) a claymore, why she has dark color hair?:confused: Yeah, the awakened being killed by Opheia also has dark hair(and rather cute too). So when claymore awakens, their hair and eyes will change back to original color when in human form.:D:D:D Conclusion.....little dark hair girl is an awakened being:p:p Anyone disagree?

[Bikerider]

If Youma can take on any human appearance they want, what's to say Awakened Beings don't have the same ability. Why the male awakened look like they got hit by a bus and the female ones look like children is something to consider. It could be they take on the form they had before their hybridisation.

[guest]

But if she is(was) a claymore, why she has dark color hair?:confused: Yeah, the awakened being killed by Opheia also has dark hair(and rather cute too). So when claymore awakens, their hair and eyes will change back to original color when in human form.:D:D:D Conclusion.....little dark hair girl is an awakened being:p:p Anyone disagree?

I think awaken ones can change their appearance just like yoma does. They can change their appearance completely and blend in among humans. We have seen these in at least one male and one female awaken ones from previous ep.

I think Dauf is yoma because there is no evidence indicating no yoma can be that powerful.

Besides, from Clare's situation (quarter yoma), we know that having thicker yoma blood does make a difference. It seems proportional, which means, a yoma has full power (100%) while a human being has zero power. Any Claremore or awaken being lies somewhere in between.

Also, even awaken beings have different power levels just that the really powerful ones, like Priscilla, are rare. That mean there are really insanely powerful yoma exist somewhere. We just don't see them yet. So if you mix one yoma blood from that with one very weak human, you can get a very powerful claymore because she inherits such strong yoma blood. If that human being has very good potential to begins with, she will be exceptionally good even if she is only a mix with poor yoma blood.

All speculations.

[Cadorna]

The little girl is the one giving orders, i think you need to loo the chapter better ^

[EasyPrey]

I don't know how many people noticed. But this episode had the first "high pitch school girl" voice in this series.

There was a girl and a boy talking about the statue of the twin goddesses (Clare and Tressa). Listen to the girl talk. You will know what I mean.

In fairness the girl (talking to her brother about the statue), was fairly young. So I guess the voice acting was appropriate. That high pitch voice always hurts my ears and I was hoping the Claymore would never introduce a character with that voice. :(

The voice acting of the guy Rubel was talking to (one sitting in the chair) was also above par for this genre of Anime. I was not impressed with the voice acting of the "big awaken guy, that was taking rods out of his shoulder". That was cartoon network quality of voice acting.

Anyway, they showed Galatea, but she did not speak. She is in the preview, so I hope we will get some Galatea speaking goodness next week. :)

All in all, not a bad episode. Every episode since Tressa had her head chopped of, has been an excellent episode and made me wait for the next week's episode.

-EasyPrey

[cors8]

I think awaken ones can change their appearance just like yoma does. They can change their appearance completely and blend in among humans. We have seen these in at least one male and one female awaken ones from previous ep.

I think Dauf is yoma because there is no evidence indicating no yoma can be that powerful.

Besides, from Clare's situation (quarter yoma), we know that having thicker yoma blood does make a difference. It seems proportional, which means, a yoma has full power (100%) while a human being has zero power. Any Claremore or awaken being lies somewhere in between.

Also, even awaken beings have different power levels just that the really powerful ones, like Priscilla, are rare. That mean there are really insanely powerful yoma exist somewhere. We just don't see them yet. So if you mix one yoma blood from that with one very weak human, you can get a very powerful claymore because she inherits such strong yoma blood. If that human being has very good potential to begins with, she will be exceptionally good even if she is only a mix with poor yoma blood.

All speculations.

Consider this fact. There are no Claymore hunter teams for Yoma. They are required for Awakened Beings, with some exceptions.

Every single Yoma we've seen so far has been taken care of by a single Claymore. You can't argue those Yoma weren't 100% without going into details about what a 100% Yoma would actually entail.

All the Yoma we've seen also share a similar appearance.

Only Awakened Beings have been shown to have unique appearances.

All signs point to the guy being an Awakened Being.

[grey_moon]

I wonder who the little girl is... I am assuming she is an awakened and a powerful one to boot as she controls Duff who seems rather strong. Well that is unless she has a special power to control yoma, maybe she is a yoma queen or something... ofc Duff could just be a submissive lolicon :p but I guess her age has nothing to do with it as Irene did say that they stopped ageing when they become Claymores...

[Seska]

Offtopic.

Speculate, this is the blood for this thread. That keeps it alive.

Back to topic.

We, will see what this girl is really about in the next episode or near future

[grey_moon]

Well from this episode we see that awakened are able to work together (what a frightening thought). The girl wanted to make strong friends who are awakened. She controls a male awakened (or a very ugly female) who is really strong. I think that she confident she can "make friends" with a single digit awakened because she has some power over them, or she is stronger then a single digit awakened....

She seems to have a aura about her which says she could kick arse without batting an eye...

Now why would she want to collect more awakened for? Is she planning to assault the org and rule the world? More importantly if awakened are able to work together why arent they already ruling the world with outlets that make McNuggets out of people? So many questions, can't wait till the next episode....

I wonder could she be Priscilla in disguise?

[Defiled one]

I wonder could she be Priscilla in disguise?

Oh oh..What might have we here?:rolleyes: Wait an see....wait an see.

[grey_moon]

Oh oh..What might have we here?:rolleyes: Wait an see....wait an see.

Hee hee well so far most of my predictions have been sooooooooooooooooo wrong :p

[AVPlaya]

Just finished whole Claymore series until 15. Love it.

I think Awaken ones are special because human intelligence and other traits cause the Yoma power to expand something unmatched by an ordinary Yoma. We saw that Priscilla became #1 of the Awaken Ones through her desire to beat Teresa. I guess human emotions takes the Yoki power to another level, and the Awaken ones are created.

It seemed that the Claymores has zero fear of actual Yoma, but they need teams to hunt Awaken Ones. Which is ironic because they were all ex-Claymores. They are the source of their own biggest enemy.

We see more of the head of the Organization, and they seemed to be all shadowy MEN. Boy I hate that. All these female fighters controlled by greedy, selfish, and most likely sexist men. I hope Clare kills them all.

[Nightbat®]

We see more of the head of the Organization, and they seemed to be all shadowy MEN. Boy I hate that. All these female fighters controlled by greedy, selfish, and most likely sexist men.

I think they might have a job for me!

I hope Clare kills them all.

Nevermind, I see the retirementplans suck





:D

[guest]

We saw that Priscilla became #1 of the Awaken Ones through her desire to beat Teresa.
Where did it state that Priscilla is no. 1 of the awaken ones?

[AVPlaya]

Where did it state that Priscilla is no. 1 of the awaken ones?

Wait I'm pretty sure this is in the anime because I wrote this before I read the manga... There was a discussion about how powerful Priscilla was and it was stated that she's probably the tops. I'm sorry if this is a spoiler, but I'm almost positive it was already in the anime.

[NoSanninWa]

It was probably just someone speculating that Priscilla should be amongst the strongest of the Awakened Ones because she awoke the potential which would have mader her even stronger than Theresa.

[Lendial]

since clares mission is to slice off her head, id wager priscila is among one of the strongest awakened if not the most awakened currently shown.

she was able to effortly kill claymores ranks 2 to 4, as well as the potential aspect mentioned above.

[saravis]

Didn't Rubel tell Clare that Priscilla was the strongest. It was during the conversation where they were talking about if a contract for Priscilla came in they would have to way the entire organization against her.

[AVPlaya]

Didn't Rubel tell Clare that Priscilla was the strongest. It was during the conversation where they were talking about if a contract for Priscilla came in they would have to way the entire organization against her.

Yes, that's where I heard it... it was one of their "fireside chats". I've always felt that Priscilla MUST be one of the strongest if not the strongest Awaken Ones out there because the ease in which she killed Teresa.

[Noriko]

I'm positive. What Rubel said at that time was that Priscilla was for sure amongst the strongest of the awakened beings, he didn't actually say the strongest.

He used the terme "ikkyuu" which means "first level/grade", but not "n°1"

[ArmisaelXVIII]

In the anime:

Rubel: "Even among awakened being, Priscilla is among the strongest."



In the manga:


Rubel: "Even among awakened beings Priscilla is the best."



Though theses are only translations.

[Echoes]

That's very interesting, although I think we should rely on the anime's information first, seeing as how it might very well differ from the manga plot in any event.

Priscilla being the strongest Awakened One seems very likely, though, since we were told she had the potential to become Number 1 and surpass Teresa.

Surely the Number 1 Claymore would become the strongest Awakened One?
There is the question of whether or not she could continue to grow stronger after she Awoke, or if she's "stuck" at the level she was when she experienced her Awakening.

Edit: Guess we're sort of off-topic as far as episode 15 goes. The ending sure left me hanging, so much tension, a classical *calm before the storm* moment.

[Negativedark]

The english version of the manga used the term "superb" to describe awakened Priscilla. It could be interpreted as meaning she's the strongest of all, or to mean she's amongst the strongest, like in the top five.

[grey_moon]

Yes, that's where I heard it... it was one of their "fireside chats". I've always felt that Priscilla MUST be one of the strongest if not the strongest Awaken Ones out there because the ease in which she killed Teresa.

Teresa was caught flat footed. Who knows what would of happened if she pre-clare... All we really know is that Pricilla had the potential to surpass Teresa, since she awoke that is a moot point.

[Mandrake]

Just imagine the same scenario, Galk is about to cut off Claire's head, but then she suddenly slices off the hands, and consequently the head.

[cors8]

Teresa was caught flat footed. Who knows what would of happened if she pre-clare... All we really know is that Pricilla had the potential to surpass Teresa, since she awoke that is a moot point.

As Irene said, if it was Teresa pre-Clare in the same situation, Priscilla and the hunter team would've been killed before it even got that far.

[Nightbat®]

As Irene said, if it was Teresa pre-Clare in the same situation, Priscilla and the hunter team would've been killed before it even got that far.

Also a moot point since Clare was the reason Theresa killed the bandits and
abandoned the Org



:twitch:....Dammit, it's all Clare's fault!!!! :D

[Defiled one]

Also a moot point since Clare was the reason Theresa killed the bandits and
abandoned the Org



:twitch:....Dammit, it's all Clare's fault!!!! :D

No, seriously it is Clare´s fault:eyebrow:

[Nightbat®]

Well, as a professional, Theresa should've known never to work with kids or animals

[PGilis]

Actually, she tried. But the dawn loli kept following her all the time! :heh:

[AVPlaya]

Teresa was caught flat footed. Who knows what would of happened if she pre-clare... All we really know is that Pricilla had the potential to surpass Teresa, since she awoke that is a moot point.

Yeah but Teresa's no ordinary Claymore... she's is the best there ever was.

[ArmisaelXVIII]

When the team went against Teresa, I think she was clearly holding herself.

Irene would've probably died in the inn room, when she charged against Teresa for the first time.

Edit: I meant it as if Teresa has never met Clare.

[Noriko]

I think we should rely on the anime's information first, seeing as how it might very well differ from the manga plot in any event.

Yes, I'm only refering to the anime, and to what Rubel "said" at the mentionned time, I'm not saying anything about whether Priscilla actually is the strongest or not (which has not been stated yet in the anime -__-; ) But I do think it's very possible, too