Shingetsutan Tsukihime

[corp20]

http://ozashiki.milkcafe.to/gallery2/2003-1026-tsukihime/

Google has too many things on TsukiHime, enjoy the cosplay of the 5 female characters! ;o
When I rule the world I will spare your life....... for now. :)

[Delphinium]

Haha, my first post, anyway I've found another group translating Melty Blood, they seem to have translated parts of the menus already.

I liked the ending. It left me depressed for the entire day.



Teh link
http://revolve.emuxhaven.net/melty_blood.html

[Thelastguardian]

Haha, my first post, anyway I've found another group translating Melty Blood, they seem to have translated parts of the menus already.

I liked the ending. It left me depressed for the entire day.



Teh link
http://revolve.emuxhaven.net/melty_blood.html

from the look of the progress bar, it is going to take them a very very long time to finish translating the game :| .

[SilverHeimdall]

Haha, my first post, anyway I've found another group translating Melty Blood, they seem to have translated parts of the menus already.

I liked the ending. It left me depressed for the entire day.



Teh link
http://revolve.emuxhaven.net/melty_blood.html


That's the same exact group by the way, they're the ones translating it, the only group.

[JokerD]

Can anyone clue me in on Arcueid's happy ending in the game please.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Holy christ, I never knew Tsukihime anime skip so much detail. So what story arc is presented in the anime?

And where can I read the entire story?

[NoSanninWa]

To read the whole story, you would have to actually play the Japanese computer game which is very hard to find. This isn't a manga.

[stormy001_M1A2]

To read the whole story, you would have to actually play the Japanese computer game which is very hard to find. This isn't a manga.

Damn, I guess it is the best answer I can get. :heh:

[Delphinium]

i was trying to find some OST songs on kazaa when i stumbled upon a gameboy advanced version of the tsukihime pc game. im not to familiar with the PC version but the drawings on the GBA version looked like PCs. Ill see if i can post some pictures later in the day.

[Delphinium]

anyone know a good website to host pics on.
or can this forum host them.

prefferably a site where the uploaded pics can be seen after like more than 4people look at them like village photos

[Drakes]

uploadit.org

[argento]

I was wondering if ANBU released episode 9 yet or not, it seems that they jumped to 10. any info about the episode is much greatly appreciated

[haido]

The Tsukihime game is available at supernova. Here's the link:

Link to Illegal material CENSORED by moderator

Its been there for quite a while now so if anybody wants it, better grab it fast. And btw, the download speed isnt great (or maybe its just me??) Oh and if you guys didnt know yet, its in japanese... but a very helpful english walkthru is provided by schonberg earlier in this thread. (Thks schonberg!)

Just completed the Arcueid game path.. and I can conclude that the anime follow closely to the Arcueid 'true ending' game path (minus the H scenes and any storyline link to them. Like the anime, the other characters and subplots are not described in details in this path.

Oh, and btw... the cosplay gals r a bit disappointing huh? haha.. (maybe except for Aikha ^_^)

[Thelastguardian]

I hate to say this but isnt there a rule somewhere that say no games/ware. Or does it only cover ones that are licence?

[Delphinium]

download.org's free section seems to be down. I tried it on my yahoo breifcase account to see if it supports image hosting. Here are the links but they might not work. Man, yesterday was great, i found so many tsukihime adult doujinshis XD.

again this is from the gameboy advanced version. which i find really weird. I may upload the GBA rom later. If your interested contact me at my aim handle at CynicDelphinium

http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/bc780e8/bc/Tsukihime+Pics/GBA+pic+1.png?BCRda._Af556k.T_

http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/bc780e8/bc/Tsukihime+Pics/GBA+pic+2.png?BCRda._AVzLGmQHZ

http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/bc780e8/bc/Tsukihime+Pics/GBA+pic+3.png?BCRda._AM64M99yg

http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/bc780e8/bc/Tsukihime+Pics/GBA+pic+4.png?BCRda._A9iwTcSXI


Unrelated but nice pic anyway

http://us.f1f.yahoofs.com/bc/bc780e8/bc/Tsukihime+Pics/Kittyears.jpg?BCRda._AM_fUiL42

[Pandora]

Just want to say that the link doesn't work, Delphinium.

[Delphinium]

Try These

if these dont work someone please give me a good image hosting site, one that works


Remember since this is geoshities copy the link and paste it.

http://www.geocities.com/delphinium@sbcglobal.net/3.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/delphinium@sbcglobal.net/5.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/delphinium@sbcglobal.net/8.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/delphinium@sbcglobal.net/9.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/delphinium@sbcglobal.net/02.jpg

[Drakes]

well..I said this already, heres a decent one that works well.
Although I did have to refresh once or twice sometimes.

www.uploadit.org

[Rurouni]

Well I just finished Tsukihime last night (Akeep's version). Video quality wasn't good but the rest was :) But at the end, there were a few thing left unclear for me.

*SPOILERS*

Why was the family of the adopted Shiki killed in the first place? I guess I missed that part.

And what happens to Ciel after the death of Roa? No-one remembers her except for Shiki but she wasn't killed or anything?

Overal a good anime. bit overrated, but still a good one. I just wished I downloaded and burned another version then A-Keeps since the videoquality was a bit low. Subbing was good though.


Thanks for the info.

Rurouni

[Prince of Chronics]

I'm glad I'm not the only one in the world who was left confused by this anime.... I watched all twelve episodes and the prologue and I still don't have a clear understanding of what happened in the series....

anyways... you should try checking for the Tsukihime thread in the fansubs board... cuz I'm pretty sure all the discussion there might answer your questions... sorry... I don't have a link to the thread....

[Takato]

this anime reminds me of saikano sorta very nice tho I love these kinds of animes but really depresses me for the whole day once I finish them but inspires me a bit anyway.....anyone know any other kinds of anime like this? dark, action, love story, blah blah you know

[gho]

I'm glad I'm not the only one in the world who was left confused by this anime.... I watched all twelve episodes and the prologue and I still don't have a clear understanding of what happened in the series....

anyways... you should try checking for the Tsukihime thread in the fansubs board... cuz I'm pretty sure all the discussion there might answer your questions... sorry... I don't have a link to the thread....


Shingetsutan Tsukihime was a great story full of very charismatic characters but it was only 12 episodes long... Of course the size of the anime did interfer with the plot and left out tons of details. I was very disappointed when I've learned this but I think it was a great effort. Although the first two and the last three episodes were the best ones (the middle of the story is kind full of useless stuff to the script) I recommend everyone to watch it.

I wonder if the story is more complete in the manga version..

[Tboz]

I know there's the ero-game, but is there a Tsukihime manga? :confused:

[kj1980]

Read my posts on this thread for a clear explanation: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=509

As for a manga, yes there is one that is currently serialized on Dengeki Daioh. However, it is not done by the original artist, Takeuchi Takashi. But, the original story is still the doujin game, and to fully understand the author's Mr. Nasu Kinoko's twisted world that he has created, it is highly recommended that one should actually play the game, or at least read his doujin novel "Kara no Kyoukai."

[Ramza]

Rurouni -> remember, in first (or second, i don't remember clearly) episode we get an unclear info, that Ciel wasn't attending the school before the action that takes place in the anime. She just appeared, and everybody was sure that she was there before. The same things happens at the end of the story - she simply dissapears, and nothing but Shiki remembers her. The conclusion is that, with some kind of powers given her by the church, she managed to manipulate everyones memory to help her during her mission.
Anyways, i can't think of better answer for your question :P

kj1980 -> i've wrote this post so that somebody would't have to search all of posts in the topic you mentioned :)

[Killerattacks]

I just wished I downloaded and burned another version then A-Keeps since the videoquality was a bit low.

First of all the version you have is from Akeep AND a-e. 2nd thing, the videoquality is ok if you have the right Xvid codec and settings and the video quality is GREAT when you consider that some eps are below 100Mb with audio for 25 minutes!

[lavarock]

Read the entire Tsukihime thread Kj pointed out and you will have a much better understanding of the series

[Sarumaru]

This show was good up unitl the end, then it sucked!

[shiznitty]

maybe you should put a spoiler there, as i havent finished the show yet, but im pretty sure what you mean by "this show was good up until the END, then it sucked"

[golthin]

This show was good up unitl the end, then it sucked!

Yeah! I wish they had used the Arcuied good end instead of the combination of true end and good end. I wanted Shiki and Arcueid to go on another date.

[shinakuma31]

i think the reason why so much detail has been left out of the anime is because those details cannot be seen without directly showing what exactly happened. because this anime was related to an H-Game and the goal of this anime was to cut all H-Scenes out of it, they had to leave all links to its hentai game behind. thus leaving you with questions for example kohaku's weird behavior in the beginning of the anime, you know what Nanayu Shiki has done but why is she hiding it?

The anime did a good job of hiding these parts but missing or not, it was still done very well. This anime would have been good with or without the hentai scenes and its storyline details that come from it.

[kujoe]

Well, I certainly think the ending could've been extended somewhat. It's like you're on some emotional high but before you reach the peak, it's cut off all of a sudden. They could've also elaborated more on Shiki's thoughts regarding the power of his eyes. I think the game had something to say about that.

The ending itself for me is good--kind of peaceful, like a tension between happy and sad--which is quite rare in my opinion. And the music is sublime! I was sometimes moved by the music more than anything else. This series has class written all over it. I just wish the staff took their time instead of limiting themselves to 12 episodes.

Oh, and if there's going to be a 2nd season of sorts--like someone said--chances are it'll be about Type-Moon's new game Fate/Stay Night and not Tsukihime. They're somewhat related after all.

[The Xenos]

I was talking with someone who seen all the eps and he said that it leaves things too open. Plus he says the whole show is tough to watch if you hadn't followed the game or comic or the universe already created from which the anime was made.

Despite getting the whole picture, I'm looking forward to finishing this. I am rather liking this. It's kinda between Helling (which is sweet as hell) and Love Hina (which never really got me).

Plus, tho I hear she's in it all too short, I am eager to see this Ciel character. She reminds me of a nun version of Hellsing's Anderson. I picked up a figure of her in those random box figure things from my local anime shop. Still hunting to get the other one with her sleeveless and with the big ass gun, which I hear might not be in the anime but only in Melty Blood, the fighting game in the same universe.

-Xenos

[Muir Woods]

I liked this series. Reasons? Very attactive character designs (I like the anime character drawing designs more than the ero-game's). The females (especially Arcueid and Akiha) are sexy, in a conservative sort of way. 2nd, interesting storyline. However, I think I spoiled myself a bit too much and ruined the anxious feeling that I should get waiting for the next episode. This anime/ero-game has a very interesting (and convoluted) plot, in which I enjoyed reading in some other websites. I have to agree with some posters here that the anime simply did not do justice to the background story, because of it's length. The ending seems kind of bland to me. Was hoping for a little bit more. I guess it could be worse. Bottom line: A very good, interesting, and moody anime. But what does that mean? Let's communicate through numbers: 85%.

I think Tsukihime deserves a forum of its own. This post actually is larger than some of the other serie's forums. But it's too bad it's already ended. Oh well.

Some questions that are left lingering in my mind:

1. So Arcuied is "dead". But she still "exists" right? (hopes for 2nd season).
2. Nanaya Shiki has the ability to destroy an "existence", for a lack of a better word. That means Nanaya Shiki has the power to destroy Roa, for good. Not just kill Roa's host, but Roa's "existence", right? But when Shiki first killed Arcuied, shouldn't her "existence" be destroyed as well? Then how did Arcuied come back?
3. Nanaya Shiki is from a family that hunts things that aren't human right? And they have the urge to kill someone who isn't human. But then how come Shiki didn't kill Akiha?


Sorry if some of these questions have been asked before, but I don't feel like flipping 500 back and reading from the beginning.

[OrO]

Yes i'm interesting with your questions too, can someone answer ?

Shiki may kill Arc beacause he dropped his glasses and with his killer instinct he killed Arc, and when he was with Akiha, he never drop his glasses. I don't know if it's the answer, I'm waiting for other to give real answer!

[kujoe]

1. So Arcuied is "dead". But she still "exists" right? (hopes for 2nd season).
2. Nanaya Shiki has the ability to destroy an "existence", for a lack of a better word. That means Nanaya Shiki has the power to destroy Roa, for good. Not just kill Roa's host, but Roa's "existence", right? But when Shiki first killed Arcuied, shouldn't her "existence" be destroyed as well? Then how did Arcuied come back?
3. Nanaya Shiki is from a family that hunts things that aren't human right? And they have the urge to kill someone who isn't human. But then how come Shiki didn't kill Akiha?

Well, I haven't played the game, but I'll try to answer anyway.

1. If the series did indeed follow the game's True Ending, then she's still alive--except that she chooses to eternally sleep because of the great bloodlust that she can no longer resist. That's why Shiki is still able to see her one last time in the classroom scene near the end of the last episode. So from a certain perspective, she's still somewhat "dead."
2. Besides the red lines of death, Shiki can also see a single red dot, which if pierced or cut, results into the "death" of the existence of that thing or person. In the last episode, Shiki finds that red dot on Roa's back and stabs it. Arcuied on the other hand, is simply cut into 17 pieces through those red lines, hence she's still able to revive herself.
3. I think this is explained in the game. There's something in the game about his urge in relation to Akiha if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully someone who has played the game can verify this.

[lavarock]

Well, I haven't played the game, but I'll try to answer anyway.

1. If the series did indeed follow the game's True Ending, then she's still alive--except that she chooses to eternally sleep because of the great bloodlust that she can no longer resist. That's why Shiki is still able to see her one last time in the classroom scene near the end of the last episode. So from a certain perspective, she's still somewhat "dead."
2. Besides the red lines of death, Shiki can also see a single red dot, which if pierced or cut, results into the "death" of the existence of that thing or person. In the last episode, Shiki finds that red dot on Roa's back and stabs it. Arcuied on the other hand, is simply cut into 17 pieces through those red lines, hence she's still able to revive herself.
3. I think this is explained in the game. There's something in the game about his urge in relation to Akiha if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully someone who has played the game can verify this.

For your last question:
1)Akiha is not demon, she is human, however, there are demon blood mixed in her blood, but that doesn't make her a non-human.
2)Akiha share life source with Shiki, (without akiha's life source, he is dead from that accident). So Shiki won't feel the demonic sense from akiha since he is part of Akiha.

[shinakuma31]

Well, I haven't played the game, but I'll try to answer anyway.

1. If the series did indeed follow the game's True Ending, then she's still alive--except that she chooses to eternally sleep because of the great bloodlust that she can no longer resist. That's why Shiki is still able to see her one last time in the classroom scene near the end of the last episode. So from a certain perspective, she's still somewhat "dead."
2. Besides the red lines of death, Shiki can also see a single red dot, which if pierced or cut, results into the "death" of the existence of that thing or person. In the last episode, Shiki finds that red dot on Roa's back and stabs it. Arcuied on the other hand, is simply cut into 17 pieces through those red lines, hence she's still able to revive herself.
3. I think this is explained in the game. There's something in the game about his urge in relation to Akiha if I'm not mistaken. Hopefully someone who has played the game can verify this.


1. the anime shows Arcuied alive, so they did follow the games True Ending. Although it was not clear that she went to eternal sleep. Arcuied only says to forget about her, and because of her time with Shiki, she wouldnt be lonely.
3. yes it is explained in the game. The urge is in his Nanaya blood, which reacts to demons, because his family bloodline were demon hunters and those were part of thier powers. In the anime, they show Shiki transform into his 'evil' side where he kills Arcuied. this is the only time they show him change during the anime. in the game he does it multiple times, most notably for me when you have the choice to continue raping Arcuied or to stop and turn back to his normal self.

[GarBhaD]

Whoa! I just finished watching the show and I love it!!!!
The only two "bad" things are:

- It's too short ;)
- In the anime, there are lots of things unexplained.

But after watching episode 12, I rushed here and read the first 8 pages of this thread. Thanks to the spoilers, know I can understand it all.
What left me more disturbed was the fact that Shiki killed Arc in the first ep with no reason.

Well, I wrote this just to say THANK YOU to all of you. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't understood the show and I would think it was a shit. :D

[Deralti]

I understood mostly everything, and got the questions i didn't ask answered here. I also, thank you all :). Especially to the one who told me that anime isn't all Love hina and Naruto crap :D.

*ducks for flames*

[guynextdoor]

this is the only time they show him change during the anime. in the game he does it multiple times, most notably for me when you have the choice to continue raping Arcuied or to stop and turn back to his normal self.

wtf? the demonic urge also causes that kind of urges? evillll

[shinakuma31]

Whoa! I just finished watching the show and I love it!!!!
The only two "bad" things are:

- It's too short ;)
- In the anime, there are lots of things unexplained.

But after watching episode 12, I rushed here and read the first 8 pages of this thread. Thanks to the spoilers, know I can understand it all.
What left me more disturbed was the fact that Shiki killed Arc in the first ep with no reason.

Well, I wrote this just to say THANK YOU to all of you. If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't understood the show and I would think it was a shit. :D

yeah i was disturbed by that too in the beginning. You had to do some research to find out that the demonic urge in his Nanaya blood causes him to lose control like that. they never really explained it in the anime. they only mentioned he came from that family and that they were demon hunters.

[EvoSpace]

yeah i was disturbed by that too in the beginning. You had to do some research to find out that the demonic urge in his Nanaya blood causes him to lose control like that. they never really explained it in the anime. they only mentioned he came from that family and that they were demon hunters.

Actually they never explained that in the game either. Most people just assumed that's the reason. There are many other hypothesis but there are no evidence for them either. Here's some of my input.

- Shiki has been supressing his power for 8 years. His urge to destroy things overflowed what he's capable of containing, that day, that moment.
- Kohaku poisoned him (only in game)
- The real Tohno Shiki commanded him through his mind (only in game)
- Roa commanded him through his mind (only in game)
- Shiki is really a blood thirsty killer, from his heart.
- combination of all :confused:

[Shinova]

Has anyone translated the original Tsukihime game?


Second question: Is there an English guide to Melty Blood somewhere? (I got it today and it's pretty cool. Love Arcueid's 8-hit aerial combo and wanna learn how to do it. Kept getting massacred by Ciel's giant gun at one point. All fun anyway :) )


EDIT: Oh yeah, someone here said that he wasn't sure if the voices in Melty Blood really were the same ones in the anime. I'm sure they are. Arcueid sounds pretty high-pitched, but the actress's the same. :)


EDIT2: A bit late, but apparently they're not. Nevermind.

[Flash_Squirrel]

Has anyone translated the original Tsukihime game?


Second question: Is there an English guide to Melty Blood somewhere? (I got it today and it's pretty cool. Love Arcueid's 8-hit aerial combo and wanna learn how to do it. Kept getting massacred by Ciel's giant gun at one point. All fun anyway :) )

First question: No, sadly..
Second question: Yes. www.gamefaqs.com.. A wonderfully detailed guide with some translation of the story mode.

Edit: Ciel rocks, but her seventh holy script special is kind of sucky.

Check Warakia.. he's powerful..

[babbito2k]

Has anyone translated the original Tsukihime game?
(http://www.geocities.com/max3075/top.htm) a work in progress (2 of the characters' endings are complete); go to the walkthrough link. This is a combo translation and guide to how to get to the endings.

[kj1980]

EDIT: Oh yeah, someone here said that he wasn't sure if the voices in Melty Blood really were the same ones in the anime. I'm sure they are. Arcueid sounds pretty high-pitched, but the actress's the same. :)

MELTY BLOOD
Tohno Shiki: Nojima Kenji (other works: Be-ru - "One Piece," Minamikawa Wataru - "Sister Princess," etc)

Sion: Natsuki Rio (other works: Heaven - "GetBackers," Kanzaki Akari "Battle Athletes Daiundoukai," etc)

Arcueid: Yuzuki Ryouka (other works: Marie - "Sister Princess," Shimizu Takako - "Chobits," etc)

Tohno Akiha: Hitomi, aka Hokuto Minami - a very famous seiyuu in the ero-game world, has two names she uses "Hitomi" and "Hokuto Minami." (other works: Yoshino Sakura - "D.C.~da capo~" original PC game version, Hoshino Fumio - "Kimi ga Nozomu Eien," Tamase Miki - "MuvLuv," Takayashiki Aoba - "Kazoku Keikaku" etc.)

Hisui: Matsuki Miyu (other works: Misawa Yoriko - "D.C.~da capo~" anime & PS2 version)

Kohaku: Takano Naoko (other works: Cello "VS Lamune & 40 Honou," Megumi Raynard "Nadesico," Wakitani Aiko "Utena")

Ciel: Sakuma Kumi (Nekoi Yuzuriha "X-the TV," Lettuce "Tokyo Mew Mew," Yuugao - "Peacemaker Kurogane")

Walchia: Masutani Yoshinori (Kanzaki Tomokazu "Witch Hunter Robin," Sunarashi Sanjuuro ".//hack")

Arima Ikuko: Kouduki Miwa - another famous ero-game main seiyuu (Amakasa Miharu "D.C.~da capo~" original PC game version, Aizawa Tomomi "Pia Carrot 2.5" & "Pia Carrot 3" etc)

Nero Chaos: Nakata Joji (Michael Heartland "Argent Soma," Garve "Slayers NEXT," Leonid Armaduvall "V Gundam."


Hope the above info will clarify your questions when comparing them with the "Shingetsutan Tsukihime" anime seiyuus.

HINT: three seiyuus from "Shingetsutan Tsukihime" are in "Maria-sama ga Miteru" now...

[EvoSpace]

MELTY BLOOD

Nero Chaos: Nakata Joji (Michael Heartland "Argent Soma," Garve "Slayers NEXT," Leonid Armaduvall "V Gundam."


NOO! You forgot the most important role he did. (But I'm guessing most people know it by now.)
Nakata Joji (Alucard "Hellsing")


HINT: three seiyuus from "Shingetsutan Tsukihime" are in "Maria-sama ga Miteru" now...

Hinting what...? Mari-mite is a rip-off of Tsukihime? :heh:

[kj1980]

NOO! You forgot the most important role he did. (But I'm guessing most people know it by now.)
Nakata Joji (Alucard "Hellsing")


Hinting what...? Mari-mite is a rip-off of Tsukihime? :heh:

No, I am hinting that these three fairly new-comers to the seiyuu field (Arc, Akiha, and Kohaku from "Shingetsutan Tsukihime") are the seiyuus that many Japanese otakus are currently following to see their careers take off...

[Masaki_Yukio]

I heard that the Seiyuu for Aruceid is also the seiyuu for Yuuna in Maburaho...

JK (I need to make a sig......)

[kj1980]

I heard that the Seiyuu for Aruceid is also the seiyuu for Yuuna in Maburaho...

JK (I need to make a sig......)

Yes. Her name is Nabatame Hitomi. She was formerly a stage actress who was recruited into the voice acting world for her excellent voice. Though she her career in voice acting hasn't exceeded over a year yet, she has already played the role of Arcueid Brunstud from "Shingetsutan Tsukihime," Yuuna in "Maburaho," and currently plays the role of Torii Eriko (Rosa Foetida) in "Maria-sama ga Miteru."

[Masaki_Yukio]

I like her voice.. it's kinda like....Hayashibara Megumi, but different...very different..

JK

[Tatsurou]

Was browsing AnimeNFO just these past couple days and noticed it was in the top 100 and when I reviewed it, it was at rank 26. Now it's gone up to 16, which I find strange because since my ratings, there are 2 less than 5.0 avg ratings given, one 7.7 and of course the usual 10. I don't know how the script works for that. Rankings aside, still it's average ratings of 9.1 puts it up there along with some of the best animes recognised by most people and with over 400 reviewers already, I guess that's a recognition as well. I'm still not convinced however that it can be that good. I guess quite a big portion of those 400 reviewers came from here but I'll still like to hear what others have to say. Maybe you can do your own reviewing over there too. Let's see if it can garner a top 10 spot. Heh :twitch:

[Slade xTekno]

I'm not sure if this belongs in the Suggestions forums or not...
I personally loved Shingetsutan Tsukihime. The preview trailer got me hooked faster than [insert metaphor here]. It has a good story. The plot is deep enough to swim in, and you really have to pay attention if you want to understand everything. The fight scenes are a bit plain, but the nice twists keep me interested. It is currently my second favorite anime [Azumanga Daioh is the first].

[zalas]

Was browsing AnimeNFO just these past couple days and noticed it was in the top 100 and when I reviewed it, it was at rank 26. Now it's gone up to 16, which I find strange because since my ratings, there are 2 less than 5.0 avg ratings given, one 7.7 and of course the usual 10. I don't know how the script works for that. Rankings aside, still it's average ratings of 9.1 puts it up there along with some of the best animes recognised by most people and with over 400 reviewers already, I guess that's a recognition as well. I'm still not convinced however that it can be that good. I guess quite a big portion of those 400 reviewers came from here but I'll still like to hear what others have to say. Maybe you can do your own reviewing over there too. Let's see if it can garner a top 10 spot. Heh :twitch:
Personally, I don't trust rankings on AnimeNFO because they're prone to gaming and fanboys/fangirls.
As for the show, it had a lot of potential. I don't think it came out as well as it could have. Production values for stills were great, but the animation seemed to be lacking at times. Seeing as they are just rehashing the plot from a previous product (the game), it's not as great as the original since you would have to leave out a lot to make it fit. Overall, not too shabby, though I would've enjoyed it more had they done things a bit better in animation.
The manga's art style IMO is weaker, but the story is much better.

[Slade xTekno]

Personally, I don't trust rankings on AnimeNFO because they're prone to gaming and fanboys/fangirls.
As for the show, it had a lot of potential. I don't think it came out as well as it could have. Production values for stills were great, but the animation seemed to be lacking at times. Seeing as they are just rehashing the plot from a previous product (the game), it's not as great as the original since you would have to leave out a lot to make it fit. Overall, not too shabby, though I would've enjoyed it more had they done things a bit better in animation.
The manga's art style IMO is weaker, but the story is much better.
The storyline presented in the anime is one of the paths available in the game. I really want to play that game. Wish someone would translate it [if it has been, where can I find it?].

[babbito2k]

The storyline presented in the anime is one of the paths available in the game. I really want to play that game. Wish someone would translate it [if it has been, where can I find it?].
Walkthrough for several characters at this site (http://www.geocities.com/max3075/top.htm).

As far as the anime goes I thought it was one of the best offerings of last fall. I thought it did a good job establishing mood or atmosphere. I will certainly watch it again one of these days, especially since there is so little gothic anime to be had.

[dreamless]

first thing I'd say is don't believe in the review scores of animenfo. it's just a mess.

the storyline in the anime roughly follows the Arcueid True End line... so can't complain here (since it's the True End for the main heroine)

for the anime itself, I think it's just interesting enough for me to watch through it, but nothing spectacular... Actually I felt the same about the game, it's okay, with absolutely amateur graphics and sound, it's mostly just a text novel with branchings. I'd say you won't enjoy a single bit of it if you can't read Japanese, unlike other commercial games of the same kind (graphical novel games), which at least has better looking pictures and better musics (but then you still won't be able to enjoy them if you can't understand the text).

It's quite famous though. its sequel (or at least a game set in the same universe), Fate/Stay Night, is actually the top selling hentai game of the past five years...

[zalas]

Actually I felt the same about the game, it's okay, with absolutely amateur graphics and sound, it's mostly just a text novel with branchings. I'd say you won't enjoy a single bit of it if you can't read Japanese, unlike other commercial games of the same kind (graphical novel games), which at least has better looking pictures and better musics (but then you still won't be able to enjoy them if you can't understand the text).

It's quite famous though. its sequel (or at least a game set in the same universe), Fate/Stay Night, is actually the top selling hentai game of the past five years...
The game's background images were very nicely done. The character weren't as nicely drawn. You can only gawk at pretty pictures so much in visual novel games. It's really the story that draws people in (and the music sometimes). And there's no way Fate/stay night has been the top selling game in the past five years because it came out a few months ago (unless they were accepting preorders 5 years ago). I think you're probably thinking of Kagetsu Touya, the one with Ren in it, correct?-

[dreamless]

errr... what I meant is that Fate/stay night have sold the most number of copies among all hentai games that have come out in the past five years... the recent chart has it sold over 106,000 copies, surpassing the 2000 champion AIR...

About the game, well, Tsukihime is surely one of the most text-heavy game even in the visual novel genre... but the graphics and music are both sub-par. Even the background is quite crude I'd say, and the music is rather annoying than building the mood... that I always turn off the volume when playing it... Just my two cents of course.

[kanazuchi]

Its really wierd, I personal loved the show, thought it was awesome. But its pretty far being a "great" anime. The best thing about it to me is its not really lacking anything, The story gets a little confusing but all comes together quite nicely.

[FlyByNite]

Man I wish those games were translated. Maybe the hentai game company that does translations could do it with them? They did Bravesoul.

[kj1980]

The anime actually made anime history as it was the first time an anime from a big-name anime production company was made based on a doujin game.

Technically, you can't call this as an "ero-game" nor a "hentai game" since it was never sold commercially. "Tsukihime" was a doujin game that entered into spotlight by the doujin group TYPE-MOON selling their game at a booth in Winter Comic Market 2000. It was an original game with both the writer and the artist being an amateur. What set them apart from the rest was that these two actually went to the lengths of quitting their actual jobs, selling off everything they owned, and for the writer - almost selling his organs on the black market, to concentrate their efforts into making a great game.

Word of mouth spread, but since this was a doujin game, you couldn't find them at normal game shops (which has an ero-game section)...the only places that had the game were either at the bi-annual Comic Market convention, on TYPE-MOON's homepage, or at doujin specialty shops. Needless to say, these were very hard to find - an amateur group cannot go out and press CD-ROMs as much as commercial companies due to a limited budget, so there were very limited pressings. Since this was a doujin game, the price was also very reasonable compared to commercial ero-games, which furthered the frenzy.

By the summer of next year, TYPE-MOON couldn't keep up with the amount of orders that kept coming in their homepage (no doujin group would ever imagine their work to be such a big hit so they were filling their orders by hand) that they had to buy three dot-matrix printers to fill out the orders (there is a very funny short-manga about this). By this time, TYPE-MOON needed money to make more pressings to keep up with demand. This was around the time when top toy/figurine makers and big-anime shops started contacting TYPE-MOON for obtaining licensing to make Tsukihime figurines and trading cards. (I guess the best comparison I can think of is a group of two people in America making their own game in their own house, which became an instantaneous hit that they were suddenly are contacted by Mattel to make toys from that game.)

Now TYPE-MOON had the money to make more pressings and a larger budget to create more games. Hence, they released the "Tsukihime Plus-Disc" and the fun-disc "Kagetsu Touya," which was a game with countless routes of gags and amusement - all for a very cheap price.

By the time the next Winter Comike came around, TYPE-MOON, established themselves as only few have accomplished (Akamatsu Ken, CLAMP, Takahashi Rumiko) - to hit the peak of the doujin world. It is not everyday, moreso in Japan, to see an amateur work spawning a multimillion dollar revenue from figures, trading cards, promo CDs, etc. It isn't everyday that they see an entire section of doujin genre that was based on a doujin game itself - sure you see Final Fantasy doujinshis and doujin groups everywhere, but "Tsukihime?" That was a doujin game in itself!! It's like making a doujin out of a doujin. It also isn't everyday when they are approached by Geneon who wanted to make an anime out of their doujin work.

I'm sure they are glad by now they took the risk of quitting their dead-end jobs. The road may have been tough, but now they are considered to be gods by the doujin world, and one of the most sought-after writers/artists in the professional world. TYPE-MOON landed a multi-million dollar deal with Kodansha to re-release their old doujin novel "Kara no Kyoukai" commercially (slated for this summer). With profits, licensee margins, royalties from games, anime, toys, and publishing - there was no reason not to go pro. So, in the summer of 2003 - they ended their doujin activities and created their own commercial company TYPE-MOON Inc.

This January, they released their first game as pros - "Fate/stay night." Needless to say, it made ero-game history (it's now "ero-game" since this was a commercial product) as it bumped off Key's "AIR" record in total amount of sales - 106,000 copies in one month (this is a very large number considering it is an ero-game). Speculation is that since the "Fate/stay night" soundtrack is sold and distributed exclusively by Geneon once again, that there are already talks of "Fate/stay night" being animated.

[relentlessflame]

That's a really cool story, kj1980; chalk one up for the little guy! It's good to see that, in this world so dominated by big international super-conglamorates, a few people with a good idea still have a chance to find success. If you had told these guys a few years ago what they'd be doing now, they'd probably say you were crazy! Well, good for them!

As for the Tsukihime anime, I really enjoyed it a lot. It's a real "bridge" kind of anime between the romance/drama and action genres. I thought the art and music were both especially good, and the story kept things very interesting. I hope that we'll see a Fate/Stay Night anime of the same calibur some day.

[AkihaTohno]

The anime mainly focused on like plot. No major ecchi (YAY! Ecchi blows babies).

There were a few small action scenes, but they weren't "in your face". So if you like a good dark story, it's nice. But if you looking for boobs, go see something else that's not Tsukihime.

[bluemist]

What I like from Tsukihime was each episode is 'something'. Unlike other anime where they fill episodes with 'fillers'. Each time I watch Tsukihime some kind of plot or character development pops up, which keeps my interest.

And also, very unlike bishoujo game male leads, this doujin game male lead has a 'face'. Almost all those bishoujo game -> anime male leads are almost as 'faceless' as they were in the game, meaning no character, no history whatsoever. But here the male lead is quite cool. He may be dorky like those other male leads, but at least he has his own story to tell.

And I once proclaimed this scene in the last ep. as my 2003's best scene in an anime:
The Shiki vs. True Shiki battle in a bridge connecting two buildings, Shiki exclaimed, "What you see, and what I see, are different!". He merely stabs his knife in the ground, and the whole bridge just crumbles and collapsed! Way cool.

fate/stay night anime, will definitely be waiting for that.

[kujoe]

Basically Tsukihime is an example of a cult hit that has surpassed mainstream offerings. I say "cult" because its success can also be explained in relation to the devotion of its fans--how it gains street cred through word of mouth and how its story, concept and characters exude a sense of depth while remaining consistent and entertaining at the same time.

With regard to the anime itself, I say it's worth a dvd purchase. It's one of my favorites actually. It's like the kind of anime that I have been waiting for a long time--the kind that has a good sense of seriousness and appeal. Of course, overall the anime cannot compare to the weight of the original. To put it simply, the world of Tsukihime (and Fate/Stay Night) maintains a fully realized world--its own cosmos--with its own history, culture, order and terminology. I love the imagination that's at work here.

The characters are great, and yes just like bluemist says, they indeed have a face. You cannot simply compare them to archetypes. And the music...what else can I say? Overall Tsukihime is not perfect, but it's one of those I would definitely buy if it ever gets licensed for a R1 release.

And for crying out loud, it's quite rare in a "harem" show like this that the central heroine or the "girl by default" as I like to put it, turns out to be the most interesting of them all. (at least for me anyway)

[dreamless]

well, at least those Type Moon guys were really persistent in making Tsukihime famous. They even managed to put up an ad for it on the front page of Alice Soft... and yup it was a doujin game, but it's still a hentai doujin game... but then it's really quite hard to even call it a "game"... It's full of text, and out of about 6 hours of constant reading there's only about 10 minutes of hentai scenes... err... hentai text, I guess... It's really more of a novel than a game...

Also it seems Nasu (the creator of Tsukihime and the world setting, which practically means everything of the Tsukihime world) intends for it to becomes a complete PnP RPG setting as the ultimate goal, and a lot of ideas are borrowed from Vampire The Masquerade setting.

Fate/stay night anime sounds interesting, at least I guess there will be more variety in the fighting scenes, instead of Shiki's cheating "one stab solves everything" ability in Tsukihimie. =.=

[Tatsurou]

Hehe.. it's up to 12 now. A top 10 is looming ahead for it. Anyway, I'm not condemning this anime or anything. I believe every person has their own views. It was just surprising to me because out of the top 50 ranked anime there, there is not really any one which I had watched and disliked very much. I had watched over 80 anime titles and still I really did not enjoy this anime one bit. It was ok in the beginning but as it progresses, I was really bored by it. I guess I had expected something similar to Hellsing which turned out to be far from it. I didn't know it originated from a H-game, maybe that's why. Maybe I'll watch it again, although I'm pretty sure I still won't be convinced it's up there alongside CB, Kenshin, Berserk, Scrapped Princess and such based on its ratings. It has even higher ratings than Hellsing.. grrr.. :frustrated:

[Shaheed79]

Hellsing? The first 7 episodes of Hellsing were fantastic but the rest was just blah to me could of been a lot better. But I agree Moon Princess is a nice little likable anime but I wouldn't rate it as highly as everyone seems to. It is my belief that the original Tsukihime game garnered a hardcore cult following who simply felt a lot of nostalgia towards the anime and its characters therefore liking it more than someone who was unfamiliar with the series.

Even myself I would not have watched the anime if I didn't see the first 3 minutes and saw the name "Tohno Shiki" in the hospital and immediately got excited because I have the Melty Blood videogame based off the same characters and story. So I myself found myself engrossed by the feeling of seeing and hearing Arcueid and Nero in a full fledged anime production. This is the reason why I stayed glued to the anime until I had seen the whole thing. It reminded me a lot of Saikano for some reason and I liked Saikano a nice amount more.

I will say this though. After reading the script to the original doujin game I must say that the anime DID NOT do the universe justice at all. It left far to many questions that only fans of the game would know the answers to and left those who didn't even know it was based off a doujin confused and un-fulfilled. So in a way the anime is indeed overated but the original game story and universe definitely is NOT. I hope that answers your question. :)

[dreamless]

Heh, I find the original universe setting quite overrated too... a complex and huge universe setting is not that uncommon for nowaday's doujin novels... but then I have to praise them for sacrificing their own time and money to make it into a playable game and put all their efforts to advertise it, that's what's really unique to the Tsukihime franchise (I believe it is appropriate to call it a franchise now).

Now about animenfo ranking... well, I'd say most of the truly great and generally accepted "best of all times" animes are in their top 100, to give credits where it's due. But the top 10 is just a list of "currently most popular anime" at best.

[Leo_Otaku]

I say it is over rated. I mean it was pretty good I give it a 7 or 7.5 i mean it was nothing special at all. The art wasn't even that great for the game. But I say AIR is better ^-^ (note this is all IMO) Fate/ stay night didn't seem all that great, I'm not a big fan of their art so that might be a big part. And another thing they seem to be really like blood....ALOT. But I haven't played it so I can't comment on it BUT I say KEY rules it all LOL.

[ArcHawk]

It's not for you if you need non-stop action. A lot of people complained that it moved too slowly.

To me, that was the great part. Tsukihime may not be the best anime I have ever seen, but for its running period last fall, it had me anticipating every Sunday (usually when the subs came out) like no other anime has ever left me anticipating its next episode.

The only complaint I could think of is that it was too short and well, the 'side' characters are interesting enough to carry a lot more weight on their own. Then again, while it may not encompass the entire game universe, I think the 12 episode anime stands alone as a very well-crafted if brief series.

There's the 'left you wanting more' feeling when you felt shortchanged.

Then there's the 'left you wanting more' feeling because you loved it and didn't want to say goodbye to the characters (and I'm not just talking about Arc...:))

For me, it was the latter.

Yes yes and if none of these posts convince you to watch it, take a look at my sig and just try to say no!

[dreamless]

Yes yes and if none of these posts convince you to watch it, take a look at my sig and just try to say no!lol, too bad I only root for Akiha and Satsuki... :p

hmm... maybe I should modify my avatar...

[kujoe]

I guess I had expected something similar to Hellsing which turned out to be far from it. I didn't know it originated from a H-game, maybe that's why. Maybe I'll watch it again, although I'm pretty sure I still won't be convinced it's up there alongside CB, Kenshin, Berserk, Scrapped Princess and such based on its ratings. It has even higher ratings than Hellsing.. grrr..
That's your mistake right there. If you were equating all things vampire and occult to Hellsing, then you'll certainly be disappointed with Tsukihime. Hellsing was okay but overall it turned out to be a cheap, vampire b-movie that was made into a decent anime series. Cool characters though--especially that cold bitch who made that pact with Alucard. I just didn't like the execution and the pacing.

I can tell from your favorites that you might be hard pressed to enjoy Tsukihime. In my opinion, those shows you mentioned are pretty overrated right now--especially Kenshin--but as all things go, there is much to be liked about them for different reasons. (For me, it's the Kenshin OVAs. The series on the other hand, is inconsistent and sometimes mediocre.) And yes, the series cannot truly do justice to the original. I'd give it an 8 over 10.


There's the 'left you wanting more' feeling when you felt shortchanged.
I was left hanging too. I usually saved the latter hours of the night for Tsukihime, so that I could just easily sleep it off. The only other anime that had the same treatment from me was Juuni Kokki.

[Shinova]

The Tsukihime anime is really slow, but it's pretty great nevertheless. The original game's a lot, lot better though.


I feel that Tsukihime as a whole deviates from this "stereotypical hole" that so many vampire series and lore seem to fall into, and establishes itself as something unique in the world of vampire lore. It has less sheer fantasy and more of a feel of reality to it. :)

[Gold_Rogers]

I watched the entire thing in 2 sittings. It definitely started off a bit slowly, but Arcuied is so cute :D The romance was kept me hooked, I didn't care much about a lot of the other characters (although Ciel and Shiki's sister were interesting). Oh, and the way they showed you little bits and pieces through fragmented flashbacks, that was also powerful storytelling. The ending did leave me hanging, but in its own way it's a beautiful way to end a story.

[SilverLeafTree]

Putting judgements on top 100 rankings aside (they are just the mass' opinions)

I personally enjoyed the show a lot. Though its not perfect, there are some things that it does very well. The strongest trait of this anime IMO is its superb use of the OST and art to create such a realistic mood that just jumps out and grabs the watcher. No other anime I have seen has made such a well-fitting OST.

Smooth animation in fight scenes, consistent art, good use of color, and distinctive style are some other things that add to it as well. Originality in terms of setting and characters is hard to factor in since its based on a game, but I've never played the game and I definitely liked the unique concepts and character designs. However, there are pacing and storyline problems (questions left unanswered) due to its short length. That didn't bother me personally too much, though it may for others. It just takes a willing suspension of disbelief.

9/10.

[stormy001_M1A2]

What makes me enjoy the story is completeness of it, the game I mean. The game really can survive without the H scene IMO.

Somthing about Tsukihime that makes me truly enchanted by the story, I just could not finger it but it is there.

[dreamless]

I actually think the h scenes in the game quite redundant. Actually I think the graphics and music in the game are also quite redundant... especially the music... which pains me to hear...

IMO calling Tsukihime a "game" is already quite stretching it, I don't think there's any other game, even those games in the so-called visual novel genre (or Japanese PC AVG games), that has entire screens of text after text like Tsukihime. It's basically an electronic novel with some graphics and music added in as background.

It's kinda expected to have a more complete and better story in a novel compared to a game, if you ask me...

[zalas]

I actually think the h scenes in the game quite redundant. Actually I think the graphics and music in the game are also quite redundant... especially the music... which pains me to hear...

IMO calling Tsukihime a "game" is already quite stretching it, I don't think there's any other game, even those games in the so-called visual novel genre (or Japanese PC AVG games), that has entire screens of text after text like Tsukihime. It's basically an electronic novel with some graphics and music added in as background.

It's kinda expected to have a more complete and better story in a novel compared to a game, if you ask me...
Haven't you played any text adventure games? =P Besides a lot of things that are good in a novel cannot be conveyed totally by images. For example, how do you convey nostalgia (no, no more cherry blossoms), or regret?

[dreamless]

Haven't you played any text adventure games? =P Besides a lot of things that are good in a novel cannot be conveyed totally by images. For example, how do you convey nostalgia (no, no more cherry blossoms), or regret?I have played A Mind Forever Voyaging and the early Zork and King's Quest games if that's what you mean :p

my point is that the music is rather detrimental to the enjoyment of Tsukihime, and the graphics rather unnecessary... I think I can enjoy it as much or maybe even a little bit more if it's just a plain novel without those annoying music and... umm... detracting graphics and h scenes... :p :p :p

oh, and the above are all just my opinions of course... don't jump on me if you enjoy the h scenes in the game :p

[hunterx]

Was browsing AnimeNFO just these past couple days and noticed it was in the top 100 and when I reviewed it, it was at rank 26. Now it's gone up to 16, which I find strange because since my ratings, there are 2 less than 5.0 avg ratings given, one 7.7 and of course the usual 10. I don't know how the script works for that. Rankings aside, still it's average ratings of 9.1 puts it up there along with some of the best animes recognised by most people and with over 400 reviewers already, I guess that's a recognition as well. I'm still not convinced however that it can be that good. I guess quite a big portion of those 400 reviewers came from here but I'll still like to hear what others have to say. Maybe you can do your own reviewing over there too. Let's see if it can garner a top 10 spot. Heh :twitch:

it's an interesting story. I didn't watch it when it was airing but one day after it was over, I took it out and watched it all and it was fantastic. It has a good balance of mystery/romance/action. It's more romance and I hate romance but I loved the romance in tsukihime. It's original compared to the recycled anime like green green, maburaho and all the other crap out there

[kj1980]

I actually think the h scenes in the game quite redundant. Actually I think the graphics and music in the game are also quite redundant... especially the music... which pains me to hear...

IMO calling Tsukihime a "game" is already quite stretching it, I don't think there's any other game, even those games in the so-called visual novel genre (or Japanese PC AVG games), that has entire screens of text after text like Tsukihime. It's basically an electronic novel with some graphics and music added in as background.

It's kinda expected to have a more complete and better story in a novel compared to a game, if you ask me...

I agree about the music...it was very plain and at times would be very jittery when I first played it (the TYPE-MOON HP said that this game was originally made to be played on Windows 95/98 so it worked very weird on Me/2000 back then). Fortunately, this bug was fixed and the music was remastered in the "Tsukibako" collection. Until then, the music annoyed me to the extent that I just shut the CD-Audio off and played the entire game mute.

The drawings were...err...well, you can tell that the illustrator was an amateur. It is definitely not the best drawings and CG art compared to the pros in the ero-game market. Back then, we used to call Takeuchi-san's art as, "his art style is very manga-like." The coloring was very plaid as well. But I do compliment the enormous stand-pictures (tachi-e) in the game...some stand-pictures are shown only once never to be seen again!

As for backgrounds - it is basically a picture or snapshot of some actual place and blurred with an tone of blue. It looks cheap yes, but for many otakus it also was something that recalled the background usage in the old Leaf game "Shizuku" and "Kizuato" back in 1996 (This was in the later/end days of DOS games). I guess that using a free-ero-game production software NScripter has its limits.

In many ways, I think this game had its success because it was very DOS-like as well. Cheap graphics and cheap sound can be contemplated for a great story - something that the old DOS game companies did due to machine restrictions. In the end though, I think "Tsukihime" was a good for the market (ero-game and non-ero-game alike) as a whole since it reinforced the consumer's theory, "in the end, it all comes down to whether the story is amusing or not."

[dreamless]

well, even the old DOS h-games don't have this much of continuous reading... actually I don't remember any other game has this much of continuous reading. With the emphasis on the word "continuous". The old text adventure games are all readings for sure, but you have to type/input commands every now and then like "look at the room", "walk north", etc. etc. The Japanese AVG games also don't have entire screens of text after text. That's why I think Tsukihime gives me a feel that it's more like a novel than a game... that's what I meant by it's "a novel where the graphics and music are just added in as background"... or maybe I should use the word "backdrops"? :p

About the story, it's okay, quite good actually... it just doesn't appeal to me that much... well, I guess that's just a personal thing... I plain don't like Shiki's character, so I have some problems immersing myself into the story... especially after I see what happens to the girl I like most in the game, poor Yumizuka-chan. :(

[kj1980]

well, even the old DOS h-games don't have this much of continuous reading... actually I don't remember any other game has this much of continuous reading. With the emphasis on the word "continuous". The old text adventure games are all readings for sure, but you have to type/input commands every now and then like "look at the room", "walk north", etc. etc. The Japanese AVG games also don't have entire screens of text after text. That's why I think Tsukihime gives me a feel that it's more like a novel than a game... that's what I meant by it's "a novel where the graphics and music are just added in as background"... or maybe I should use the word "backdrops"? :p

About the story, it's okay, quite good actually... it just doesn't appeal to me that much... well, I guess that's just a personal thing... I plain don't like Shiki's character, so I have some problems immersing myself into the story... especially after I see what happens to the girl I like most in the game, poor Yumizuka-chan. :(

That is why this is in the "Visual Novel" genre (games that are heavily text-based, reading a novel with music and CGs). Not much companies do "visual novels" since it is up to the scenario writer to make the game shine. Games such as "Shizuku," "Kizuato," "To Heart" were "Visual Novels" (Leaf defines these as "Leaf Visual Novel Series Vol. 1, 2, 3). "ONE" and "MOON" from Tactics were also novel games to a certain extent. Some more well-known non-ero Visual Novels include "Otogirisou" and "Kamaitachi no Yoru." The Production IG's Yaru-Dora series "Double Cast," "Kisetsu o Dakishimite," "Sanpagaeta," and "Yukiwari no Hana" are also much like Visual Novels - although they do have a lot more selection points.

While "Visual Novels" may offer an advantage to create in-depth background and story, it is also a risk since if the write goes too far, the consumer gets tiresome of reading the game. While TYPE-MOON's latest "Fate/stay night" had a good story, I often fell tired of reading for 70 hours in total to complete the game. Especially when I am tired from coming home from work. While a good idea and a breakthrough in gaming genre when it was first done by "Otogirisou," it is also a double-edge sword, sort of speak.

I wouldn't worry about Yumiduka-san... in the PLUS+DISC that came along with the Tsukibako compilation, TYPE-MOON already have plans for a complete Yumiduka scenario. Rumors suggest they are either doing/planning a sequel to "Tsukihime," a re-release of the original "Tsukihime" under their pro-name, or a completely different story that intertwines with Yumiduka's story/arc in "Tsukihime." Supposedly, they'll give out more details once they finish finalizing stuffs for "MELTY BLOOD Re-ACT" But then again, we may end up waiting for two years like Key's "CLANNAD."

[Sugetsu]

Don't trust those reviews at animeinfo thanks to them I thought that last exile was the best of the best and when I bought the DVDs it proved to be a very bad anime.

The only way to know if something is good is to watch it yourself.

Yep, and I don't like Shingetsutan....

[dreamless]

That is why this is in the "Visual Novel" genre (games that are heavily text-based, reading a novel with music and CGs). Not much companies do "visual novels" since it is up to the scenario writer to make the game shine. Games such as "Shizuku," "Kizuato," "To Heart" were "Visual Novels" (Leaf defines these as "Leaf Visual Novel Series Vol. 1, 2, 3). "ONE" and "MOON" from Tactics were also novel games to a certain extent. Some more well-known non-ero Visual Novels include "Otogirisou" and "Kamaitachi no Yoru." The Production IG's Yaru-Dora series "Double Cast," "Kisetsu o Dakishimite," "Sanpagaeta," and "Yukiwari no Hana" are also much like Visual Novels - although they do have a lot more selection points.
Well, actually the point I try to make is that Tsukihime even has much much more reading and much less picture switchings and choice points than the other above mentioned "visual novel games". I think Tsukihime already crosses the boundary and becomes more of a "visual novel" than a "visual novel game" :p

So Fate/stay night still have as much continuous reading as Tshkihime? I haven't acquired the game yet, but judging from the screenshots it seems there are more drawings and maybe some more choices than Tsukihime? For me it's not the total amount of text that matters, it's whether they give some graphics breaks, background switchings and choices in between the text readings. ;)

[kj1980]

Well, actually the point I try to make is that Tsukihime even has much much more reading and much less picture switchings and choice points than the other above mentioned "visual novel games". I think Tsukihime already crosses the boundary and becomes more of a "visual novel" than a "visual novel game" :p

So Fate/stay night still have as much continuous reading as Tshkihime? I haven't acquired the game yet, but judging from the screenshots it seems there are more drawings and maybe some more choices than Tsukihime? For me it's not the total amount of text that matters, it's whether they give some graphics breaks, background switchings and choices in between the text readings. ;)

Definitely, if not more since it packs more detail on the differences between "mahou" and "majutsu," the details of the "War for the Holy Grail," and the Archer relationship. It took me about 65-70 hours to complete the game.

A seemingly Key's "CLANNAD" is twice as long as "AIR" I'm beginning to think why I buy these games in the first place.

[lubufengxian]

I liked the dark themes of the anime. I never played the H game, so I can't compare to the original format, but there was pull that the series had on me that always left me hanging, wanting to see something more. The animation was decent, not great, but the story held my attention. I watch quite a bit of action anime (naruto and the ilk) but I liked to relax and contemplate this gothic style.

I'd give it a seven out of ten.

[Shinova]

Speaking of art in the Tsukihime games, Melty Blood really evolved the art and made it much, much better while keeping the same styles basically.

I don't know about Kagetsu though.

[Devin]

I say it is over rated. I mean it was pretty good I give it a 7 or 7.5 i mean it was nothing special at all. The art wasn't even that great for the game. But I say AIR is better ^-^ (note this is all IMO) Fate/ stay night didn't seem all that great, I'm not a big fan of their art so that might be a big part. And another thing they seem to be really like blood....ALOT. But I haven't played it so I can't comment on it BUT I say KEY rules it all LOL.

Overall i thought the show was pretty good. For once there's an anime aimed at more mature audiences which is why i liked it.

[baka]

I thought that it was a very well done anime my only problem with it was the ending should have required more. More than just worth checking out

[lynne_huang]

I thought this anime was brilliant. Plot, animation, music.. all rolled up in one. Each episodes keeps you guessing at what is to come next, and leaves you wanting more. My only complaint would be that 13 episodes were far too short! Hoping for a second season. -fingers crossed-

[SpikeSpencer]

Aye... I enjoyed it alot ...It was particularly dark in the lighting and such which I thought was nice, I always like that style. But besides loving it because of Arcueid, that main paino theme and the whole score was awesome ...If the story wasnt that great I still would have watched it becasue of them music.

[Freddy C]

i'll give a short and unbiased review:

this anime was good, IMO absolutly brilliant, it's true that AnimeNfo's top 100 isnt always right, then again what top 100 chart is? but if you like vampire, romance and drama, this one is definitly for you, on the other hand if you dont, you may have plenty to complain about. the sad ending was one of the best ive seen, and the chracters, especially the main one are brilliant, Arcueid is in my top 50 fav anime characters of all time, and ive seen plenty of animes. this one is in my top 10 for sure, as for the general public....id say easily in the top 50 animes ever. i gave this 9.8 because really, it suited me almost perfectly...a short and neatly complied story with fantasic characters.

[SoulDrinker]

tsukihime is one of the best anime i seen. i really like the characters and how they grow during the series however i found Arcueid to start acting little childish about mid series which was annoying for me. has anyone read the manga i kno there is at least 2 chapters out

[stormy001_M1A2]

Actually, to get the real gist of Tsukihime, you have to play the game. That's the canonical story for any Tsuikihime fan. But you need good command of Japanese reading skills to understand the beauty of the story.

The manga is a compromise between the anime vision and the game story somewhat.

[Muir Woods]

What Tsukihime is has already been said in this thread, but I'll chip in my opinions. It's good, but it could've been better. For one simple reason: too short. It needed 26 episodes to cover the grand background story of Tsukihime. 12 episodes simply wasn't enough. I guess the writers did the best they could in 12 episodes. I had read a lot of Tsukihime fansites to understand its story, and let me let you, it's the most contrived (or convoluted) one I've read ever, for an anime. One thing though, I love the character designs. Case in point: Arcuied and Akiha.

Oh, one last word: Akiha > Acruied > the rest :heh: .

[stormy001_M1A2]

What Tsukihime is has already been said in this thread, but I'll chip in my opinions. It's good, but it could've been better. For one simple reason: too short. It needed 26 episodes to cover the grand background story of Tsukihime. 12 episodes simply wasn't enough. I guess the writers did the best they could in 12 episodes. I had read a lot of Tsukihime fansites to understand its story, and let me let you, it's the most contrived (or convoluted) one I've read ever, for an anime. One thing though, I love the character designs. Case in point: Arcuied and Akiha.

Oh, one last word: Akiha > Acruied > the rest :heh: .

Akiha and Arucied is pretty scary when they throwing tantrums in jealousy. Akiha in Kohaku's case, Arucied in Ciel's case.

[Devin]

Akiha and Arucied is pretty scary when they throwing tantrums in jealousy. Akiha in Kohaku's case, Arucied in Ciel's case.

Speaking of Akiha, when i saw the credits roll toward the end of Shingetustan Tsukihime, i saw all the character that were suppose to be in the game version. Who was Akiha kissing in those clips, was it Shiki?

[Ori]

When I watched Shingetustan Tsukihime I did not find it all that great, I mean it was well done, but it left a lot of unanswered questions that are only answered in the games which I did not play.

[STfan]

Actually, to get the real gist of Tsukihime, you have to play the game. That's the canonical story for any Tsuikihime fan. But you need good command of Japanese reading skills to understand the beauty of the story.

The manga is a compromise between the anime vision and the game story somewhat.

How about the rest of us who don't know a scrap of Japanese, and assuming "just learn the Japanese, you doofus" isn't an option? :sad:

I'm such a Tsukihime nut, but I lack the skills or the resources (god, imported Japanese stuff is so [insert obscenities here] expensive!) to do that. Though, if they are currently selling an English version, with more or less comprehendable translating, I would contemplate buying it.

[zalas]

How about the rest of us who don't know a scrap of Japanese, and assuming "just learn the Japanese, you doofus" isn't an option? :sad:

Then I guess it's too bad...

I'm such a Tsukihime nut, but I lack the skills or the resources (god, imported Japanese stuff is so [insert obscenities here] expensive!) to do that. Though, if they are currently selling an English version, with more or less comprehendable translating, I would contemplate buying it.
Try reading the scanslations of the manga (the cabbit ones). At least the story there is a little better written.

[STfan]

There's a Tsukihime manga? Actual paper manga? :twitch:

[zalas]

There's a Tsukihime manga? Actual paper manga? :twitch:
Yes. As far as I know there's no tankoubons out for it. However, it is running currently in Dengeki Daioh. (Whee I have two chapters XD)

[dreamless]

There's a Tsukihime manga? Actual paper manga? :twitch:
yup, there is a manga, and with some quite good original fight scenes with are not in the anime nor in the game.

[miloy2k]

What Tsukihime is has already been said in this thread, but I'll chip in my opinions. It's good, but it could've been better. For one simple reason: too short. It needed 26 episodes to cover the grand background story of Tsukihime. 12 episodes simply wasn't enough. I guess the writers did the best they could in 12 episodes. I had read a lot of Tsukihime fansites to understand its story, and let me let you, it's the most contrived (or convoluted) one I've read ever, for an anime. One thing though, I love the character designs. Case in point: Arcuied and Akiha.

Oh, one last word: Akiha > Acruied > the rest :heh: .


Yup this anime way tooo short.....

[STfan]

Yes, the anime is short. But you see, that's the beauty of it.

No filler episodes. No unnecessaries. No junk.

Everything is concentrated and coherent. It all unfolds like a slowly blossoming rose. :bow:

"Tankoubon"?
And by the way, is there a downloadable version of a translation of all the story/dialogue in the original Tsukihime game? I mean just a transcript or something. I could work off of that. :(

[7thMethuselah]

I agree that the anime is a little masterpiece but still I think they should've taken their time to explain the surroundings and Tohno family history a little more. I actually searched through a couple of sites to get the answers the anime never gave, while in fact they had the time to do so ...

Like every fan : yes yes this series was too short :(

[kj1980]

Yes, the anime is short. But you see, that's the beauty of it.

No filler episodes. No unnecessaries. No junk.

Everything is concentrated and coherent. It all unfolds like a slowly blossoming rose. :bow:

"Tankoubon"?
And by the way, is there a downloadable version of a translation of all the story/dialogue in the original Tsukihime game? I mean just a transcript or something. I could work off of that. :(

From the game player's point-of-view, the anime was short. It left too many holes and explanations out: i.e. the Tohno family curse in detail, the Kohaku-Hisui conspiracy, Kohaku's revenge, Yumiduka Satsuki shito-vampire version, etc etc. But then again, I am a TYPE-MOON fan so I end up buying the DVDs anyway.

"Shingetsutan Tsukihime" is currently being serialized on Dengeki Daioh magazine. Not enough chapters have been serialized yet to compile them into a tankoubon.

"Tankoubon" - the manga book which compiles/edits the serialized manga into one volume of book. Basically, this is the manga "graphic novels" that you read at whatever bookstore you buy yours from.

Though I cannot help you with finding a translation script for the game - I doubt there will ever be one as the text itself is too long that I sincerely doubt anyone would want to translate that much text for free or for goodwill. It would be best that you get the game and play it along via a dictionary as do most of the people on this board do with their Japanese games. In addition, since "Tsukihime" was a doujin game, Nasu Kinoko's scripts and texts are notoriously filled with misspellings and weird phrases.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Kohaku's ending story from the game:

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Stormy001_m1a2/Anime%20wallpapers/kou-05.jpg
A very pissed Archfiend Akiha

Akiha went into berserker rage when Shiki acknowledges Kohaku as his love not Akiha, so she kill Kohaku with her flaming red hair. Shiki switched into Nanaya the demon killer mode upon seeing limp figure of Kohaku, and tease her to attack him first with his typical Nanaya's arrogant words while smirking:

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Stormy001_m1a2/Anime%20wallpapers/kou-09.jpg
Kohaku limp body after got killed by Archfiend Akiha. ( Japanese call her Honki Akiha)


" C'mon, let's kill each already! I already sick seeing your face" or something like that. ( I writing this out of memory, okay)

Shiki escaped from Akiha's hair flame attacks and hide, then when Archfiend Akiha shows up, he stab the wall to make it crumble on her. Shiki then rushes to put final stab on pinned Akiha but suddenly stop since he still loves her as his little sister. Akiha then said something about she prefers him to be her killer since she is not a human anymore and have no more love to look forward to (i.e. a future with Shiki) so as he about to deal the killing blow, a wounded Kohaku steps into middle and stop it. At that point, they all realizes there is nothing to gain from this fight. Akiha did not kill Kohaku afterall, since she still consider her as a good friend.

Afterthat, Kohaku moved out from Tohno's Manor and work for Akiha's distant relative. Akiha dyed her red hair to disguise her change and drinks packeted blood to assauge her hunger. She realizes that even if she cannot have Shiki's love as a man, at least she still have a kind, gentle brother in the end.

Shiki decided to visit his beloved one during school holiday and Kohaku give him a genuine smile from her heart as a surprise in field of sunflowers at the end.

http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v31/Stormy001_m1a2/Anime%20wallpapers/kou-10.jpg
Kohaku's real smile in the end......

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The white ribbon is very significant in Kohaku's story. When Shiki return it to Kohaku, she realizes there is still love and hope left in her revenge obsessed mind. She gave the ribbon as sign of her affection to wounded Shiki when the incident happened 8 years ago.

The reason why Shiki "Killer" Nanaya is taunting Archfiend Akiha because he knew that he stand no chance if he is attacking first so he manipulate Akiha's anger to attack him first, giving him a chance.

Kohaku did not die easily because remember, she is a trained healer and knew how to make herself more resilient to deathblows with her herbs and drugs. Even in Melty Blood, there is one special move she has that make her almost unstoppable and did not feel pain for a while even to EX moves.

Shiki told Akiha and Hisui that he is going to holiday with his best friend but both of the girls knew where is he going.

[stormy001_M1A2]

Did Aoko Aozaki, one of 5 Magi actually met Shiki accidently or there is something beyond than a simple coincidence fateful meeting?

In the Epilogue of the game, it is hinted that Shiki just survived a major war that involves the Church, the Council of Magis and the Dead Apostles. Something tells me that he is one of major player that shook the secret world of Tsukihime which makes me think that Aoko could be meeting him because she knew that Shiki will do something huge in future, nurturing him and taught lessons on consequences of his Eye of Grim Reaper or Death Perception.

Oh, I am surprised to find out about Marshall Zeltrech, Arcuied's mentor and his little role in Stay/Night Fate visual novel in the crossover sidenote. To those who had no idea who is he, in the fansubbed prologue, he is bearded grey old man whom young Arcuied talk to. According to what I know, he is one of 5 Magi and also a very powefull Dead Apostle who responsible for taking down the Brunestud Throne of Red Moon.

[STfan]

:upset: Why oh why does the doujin game have to be in Japanese without any sort of English version?

*cries* I feel like such a failure as a fan now. Everyone's telling me I haven't seen the "real stuff" if I haven't seen the doujin game.

[stormy001_M1A2]

:upset: Why oh why does the doujin game have to be in Japanese without any sort of English version?

*cries* I feel like such a failure as a fan now. Everyone's telling me I haven't seen the "real stuff" if I haven't seen the doujin game.

You can try to contact Himeya Software to see whether you can acquire the game or not.

As for Japanese proficiency, I guess there is no other road than the hard way, 3-4 years of intensive Japanese language course will help you immensely if you have hobby in anime and manga in general. If KJ1980 can post superb English posts here despite being from Japan, I cannot see why none of us can return the "favour".

The reason I posted the Kohaku's ending because someone PM me and beg me to what is her ending in the game since he is big time fan of Kohaku.

STfan, I will gladly give a concise stories of main Tsukihime game and Melty Blood "what if" scenario if you really want one.

[dojoo]

Just as a curiosity...

Is it possible to fansub games or something so there CAN be a english version of tsukihime???

(the copyright and stuff should be all easy as its a doujin game)

[evil|plushie]

:upset: Why oh why does the doujin game have to be in Japanese without any sort of English version?

*cries* I feel like such a failure as a fan now. Everyone's telling me I haven't seen the "real stuff" if I haven't seen the doujin game.


http://www.geocities.com/max3075/walk.htm

Here's a translation/synopsis of the storylines in the game.

[zalas]

Just as a curiosity...

Is it possible to fansub games or something so there CAN be a english version of tsukihime???

(the copyright and stuff should be all easy as its a doujin game)
It is always possible to fansub. However, it would take a heck of a long time, considering the script will probably employ a lot of slang, etc. Furthermore, it's a looooooooooooong script, like most ADV games. The length of the script can easily be equal to the length of half a season of anime. Furthermore, it's not just dialog. The script contains lots of descriptions, plus a lot of puns on Japanese. Generally, the only people being able to tackle this would be either translators who normally work on novels or games, or the high end of anime and manga translators (since a lot of anime translators don't actually do that well reading kanji compared to their ability in determining meaning from audio, and a lot of manga translators shy away from non furigana-ed kanji and that manga usually doesn't have much in the way of descriptions that a visual novel would have).

Furthermore, some games' scripts are easy to extract/insert while other games' scripts are bit harder. The type of skill needed to do this for a really hard game would only really come from experience. It's like having two roles in the group that have the same importance as a translator in a fansub. While it will take experience to do it well, timing, typesetting and encoding can really all be taught in a few hours (so that the group can actually put out an episode, regardless of quality). Editing is not needed to get an episode out, but it will improve the quality of an episode. However, you cannot spend a few hours and teach someone translation. And without a translation, the fansub doesn't get anymore. This is the same with game translations. Without a translator you don't get a script. Furthermore, if you have a script, without someone to insert it, you can't release.
If the amount of skill the game hacker has is below a certain threshold for a certain game, he won't be able to do anything.

The type of people who can do this often don't meet the type of people who would be willing to translate games. The few that do are the ones who are in the game translation scene today.

[dojoo]

Like just as an example
In the past I translated the first day for Kanon for an australian friend I have, but I gave up after a waile cos I didn't have any programming skills other than a graphics calculator, thus all I can create was a program for the graphics calculator that would display the script to kanon as you played the game... The reason I quit was because my calculator ran out of memory after the first day.

hmm

would there be any legal problems if someone did make a fansub for a game??

Dojoo

[zalas]

Like just as an example
In the past I translated the first day for Kanon for an australian friend I have, but I gave up after a waile cos I didn't have any programming skills other than a graphics calculator, thus all I can create was a program for the graphics calculator that would display the script to kanon as you played the game... The reason I quit was because my calculator ran out of memory after the first day.

hmm

would there be any legal problems if someone did make a fansub for a game??

Dojoo
The illegal translation issue is an issue with both gamesubs and fansubs. However, most gamesubs (all the *moral* ones >.>) distribute only a patch. You would still need the game to play it. This solves distribution and copyright infringement problems, but still leaves the slightly shady illegality of the translation itself.

[Leo_Otaku]

I would pay you for a translation of Kanon and AIR script

[edg]

"revolve" are going to translate Tsukihime after they're done translating Melty Blood. Still, I think it's kind of utopic project, because the text amount in the game is tremendous... It looks like it could take years for them to translate it even if they got many translators :P Damn, have to learn japanese myself...
Oh, here's the site: http://revolve.emuxhaven.net/tsukihime.html


My Tsukihime anime review: Yes, it was really slow, but I enjoyed the music and the erm... if it was a movie i'd say "how the they chose the camera should be positioned and how the lights were shining on the picture"... and yes, there is another major thing I liked about the anime - it was made after the game so it was kind of hard to follow the plot, I had my brain concentrated all the time to understand what had just happened and what the characters are feeling. Oh yeah, Arc looked lovely too! :) I give it 9/10 without hesitating.

[zzzz]

i found tsukihime boring( great music though)

[Hao Asakura]

i found tsukihime boring( great music though)
Yeah, it was quite boring for the first 10 episodes. Only the last 2 episodes are good. What this show really needs is lighting. The whole damn show is simply too dark. Too hard to figure out what's going on. Maybe because I watched the TV capture version :heh: Anyway, just wait for the DVD version soon. It is licensed.

[Secca]

Yeah, it was quite boring for the first 10 episodes. Only the last 2 episodes are good. What this show really needs is lighting. The whole damn show is simply too dark. Too hard to figure out what's going on. Maybe because I watched the TV capture version :heh: Anyway, just wait for the DVD version soon. It is licensed.
It's kinda nice because it's dark, basically it's a vampire show so I watch at night with the lights out, it add to the atmosphere.

The same when I was watching Witch Hunter Robin and Monster. ^^

[edg]

The lightning was really good. I mean - really good. All the good things (music, lightning, story) somehow did made the show unboring to me - I was so excited about those really good things of the anime that I just didn't feel any boredom at all, just the excitement about what's coming next. Even after it ended I did feel the urge to know what's happening after that, but I somehow find that it's how it should end. Those 12 episodes were not too less, it could get boring even to me if it was more, but now I think Tsukihime is one of the best anime I've ever seen.

[Arwyn]

I thought the lighting in the series was very well done. Part of the use of lighting is to set the mood of the scene, and I think that in the case of Tsukihime, they did an excellent job. The series may be dark, but that is excactly the point, its supposed to reflect the subject.

Same thing with the music, I thought it was fantastic. So much so, that I actually went looking for the OST, and I never do that. The title track, Sacred Moon, sits on my PC at home and at work, and I listen to it all the time.

In fact, I liked just about everything in the series. I even prefer the character design in the anime over the manga, I dont know about the game, since I havent seen it, but overall I think Tsukihime is one of the best anime I have seen this year. It certainly is in my top three.

Plot, sound, lighting, character design, it did an excellent job with all of them. And yes, thats just my opinion. :)

[STfan]

TSUKIHIME IS LICENSED! YAY!!

Now this DVD is a must-buy for me. As soon as I get it, I'm going to play it on the biggest screen and the biggest speakers I can find. Every single neighbor will learn of Tsukihime now! :D

[Lunchboxx]

It's licensed, awsome.....does anyone know when the Dvd's will be comin out, This is a must buy for me :p

[hacks21]

won't he prosucer consider a season 2 since its so popular?:P

[darkchibi07]

It's licensed, awsome.....does anyone know when the Dvd's will be comin out, This is a must buy for me :p

I heard the first DVD is coming out in October. Now isn't that fitting, don't you think?

[STfan]

won't he prosucer consider a season 2 since its so popular?:P

Popular? Virtually no one here knows about it. By 'here' meaning the United States; I don't know about other places.

I would never forgive them if they botched the second season, and it's so hard not to since the first season was so absurdly good. To live up to the expectations they've got now, if they ever make a sequel, they'd have to do a ridiculously superhuman job.

[NoSanninWa]

I don't want a sequel. I want it to be completely redone as a 26 episode series. It was butchered to fit it into 12 episodes. :( Yeah, I know it won't happen... that's just how I feel. :(

[Yebyosh]

I don't want a sequel. I want it to be completely redone as a 26 episode series. It was butchered to fit it into 12 episodes. :( Yeah, I know it won't happen... that's just how I feel. :(
It might happen. If someone bought the rights, years later and declare that with the technology then declare that the time is right for a remake.

I don't know about you but as a 12 episode series, I liked it very much even though it did not fulfill all the potential it had. I can only imagine what it will be like in full :thinker:

[Shinova]

It might happen. If someone bought the rights, years later and declare that with the technology then declare that the time is right for a remake.

I don't know about you but as a 12 episode series, I liked it very much even though it did not fulfill all the potential it had. I can only imagine what it will be like in full :thinker:

It'd probably confuse a hell of a lot of people if it were done in full, since there's a LOT in Tsukihime that's not told in the anime.


I hear though that Typemoon could be working on a direct sequel to Tsukihime, possibly.


I also suppose they could try to make something out of Kagetsu Tohya or Melty Blood, maybe short OVA series or so.


And there's also Fate Stay Night.

[deadcoat]

I heard the first DVD is coming out in October. Now isn't that fitting, don't you think?


I got the first two dvd's (4 episodes each) about a month and a half ago or something like that. All I remeber it was still listed on the main site. I did look at the link from animesuki that say it will be released in October. Is this the American release? Since I live in Canada does that make a difference on the time of the release? Or did I luck out and get an advance copy?

[kj1980]

I got the first two dvd's (4 episodes each) about a month and a half ago or something like that. All I remeber it was still listed on the main site. I did look at the link from animesuki that say it will be released in October. Is this the American release? Since I live in Canada does that make a difference on the time of the release? Or did I luck out and get an advance copy?

Beware of DVDs that are region-free, have English and Chinese subtitles, and poor spellings on the warning label on the back.

[deadcoat]

Beware of DVDs that are region-free, have English and Chinese subtitles, and poor spellings on the warning label on the back.


Thank you for your advice.

[Luxotr]

Hmm, I was wondering If anyone still has those Ciel cosplay pics since both links are broken :(

If it was one pic taken from here, don't bother
http://ozashiki.milkcafe.to/gallery2/2003-1026-tsukihime/

[Ambience Blue]

I just finished watching Tsukihime several days ago, and there's no doubt in my mind that it's been one of the very best series I've seen in a long time. I'm counting down until October when the US DVDs are released. It actually didn't bother me that the series was only 12 episodes long-- Any longer would have watered down the story. The thing that annoyed me a little was the last episode. They had all the time in the world to explain what was going on, but chose instead to end it on a wishy-washy, bland note. Instead of showing the watcher what really happened, they flashed endless scenes of a rather-depressed looking Shiki randomly roaming the school. Big questions I still have are: What exactly happened to ROA? He inhabits bodies, so destroying the host should have no effect on ROA's existence. He'll be back. and ROA's gone for now, but what about Arc? Instead of sucking Shiki's blood, she chose to "die." We can all tell since she faded away, instead of regenerating. Does that mean she's gone for good? Apparently, the last time she was killed, she needed a massive amount of energy to regenerate-- something she probably couldn't do this time. Also, when Shiki sees Arc in the classroom, is it the real Arc or just an apparation (like a ghost)? if so, then Who's going to be hunting ROA in the future? Since he transcends time, we certainly can't expect Shiki to take on that burden. Ech. Too many unanswered questions for those of us who can't read Japanese (hence, no game). I'm getting Melty Blood though, so we'll see what happens. Overall, though, the music left me speechless, and the dark atmosphere was perfect. It was a perfect fit for my genre of choice-- a little action, a dark mystery, and a good layer of drama. Animation was beautiful (and by animation, I mean Arc :heh: ), and the story took itself seriously, in a Noir-esque fashion. A definitely Top 10 for me.

[NoSanninWa]

I just finished watching Tsukihime several days ago, and there's no doubt in my mind that it's been one of the very best series I've seen in a long time. I'm counting down until October when the US DVDs are released. It actually didn't bother me that the series was only 12 episodes long-- Any longer would have watered down the story. The thing that annoyed me a little was the last episode. They had all the time in the world to explain what was going on, but chose instead to end it on a wishy-washy, bland note. Instead of showing the watcher what really happened, they flashed endless scenes of a rather-depressed looking Shiki randomly roaming the school. Big questions I still have are: What exactly happened to ROA? He inhabits bodies, so destroying the host should have no effect on ROA's existence. He'll be back. and ROA's gone for now, but what about Arc? Instead of sucking Shiki's blood, she chose to "die." We can all tell since she faded away, instead of regenerating. Does that mean she's gone for good? Apparently, the last time she was killed, she needed a massive amount of energy to regenerate-- something she probably couldn't do this time. Also, when Shiki sees Arc in the classroom, is it the real Arc or just an apparation (like a ghost)? if so, then Who's going to be hunting ROA in the future? Since he transcends time, we certainly can't expect Shiki to take on that burden. Ech. Too many unanswered questions for those of us who can't read Japanese (hence, no game). I'm getting Melty Blood though, so we'll see what happens. Overall, though, the music left me speechless, and the dark atmosphere was perfect. It was a perfect fit for my genre of choice-- a little action, a dark mystery, and a good layer of drama. Animation was beautiful (and by animation, I mean Arc :heh: ), and the story took itself seriously, in a Noir-esque fashion. A definitely Top 10 for me.
Nope. Roa is gone for good. Shiki struck straight into the node that will destroy him and not merely his body. Shiki has the ability to see death itself. That's what he meant with the final line "Your power is nothing like mine."I suppose that really answers question 3 as well, but I'll leave question 2 to someone who can answer it better. If you really want to know the answer right now I'd recommend you read this thread since the question has been answered in the past.

[Ambience Blue]

Thx NoSannin. I started reading the thread til like page 20-somewhat, before I gave up. Too many people arguing about the game and Melty Blood combos lol :heh: Anyhow, I'll keep surfing and see what I come up with.

And btw, I like your new avy. It's better than the "neo-cubist" one you had previously. Where's it from?

[NarutoHead]

This is definately my favorite animes right now. It might have a pretty sad ending (being a darker anime), but a sad ending doesn't mean it is a bad ending.

As for 12 episodes, that is probably for the best...and on the bright side, it means purchasing the entire DVD set will be cheap.

once upon a time there was a spoiler tag. use it. luckily I wasn't interested in the show from the begening, and thx to you I never will be[/spoiler]

[Ambience Blue]

once upon a time there was a spoiler tag. use it. luckily I wasn't interested in the show from the begening, and thx to you I never will be[/spoiler]Notes:

1. That post was written by someone who hadn't yet seen the ending-- it was simply a conjecture.
2. Nothing was spoiled in that post. No actions, resolutions, etc. were ever mentioned. For all we know, the main characters could have waltzed away into the beautiful sunset holding hands.
3. It seems like a weak reason to reject a series simply on the basis of its ending (ex. Scrapped Princess or Noir)

[midnightsun337]

I really wish there was some form of sequel off of this. ST is one of the favorite series... the character development was pretty good (for anime) and the ending was so sad. I know this is kind of irrelevent but I'm a N%b. I really haven't found a better series since actually... the again I took a bit of a break from anime/manga and now I'm watching it again :)

ok, back on topic.

[Ambience Blue]

I really wish there was some form of sequel off of this. ST is one of the favorite series... the character development was pretty good (for anime) and the ending was so sad. I know this is kind of irrelevent but I'm a N%b. I really haven't found a better series since actually... the again I took a bit of a break from anime/manga and now I'm watching it again :)
ok, back on topic. Well, if you really need a fix, you can check out the ST game, the sequel fighting game Melty Blood, and the addon, Melty Blood Re-ACT. OF course these require knowledge of Japanese, but Melty Blood is fun to play regardless of the language barier :)

[arias]

I just finished watching Tsukihime.

Upon reflection, I thought the series was pretty normal somewhat, but I don't know why it's so gripping when I was watching it ^_^. I think Tsukihime also works better when you watch alone, since there's alot of tone and atmosphere that gives it a real nice feel.

I was also shocked by the ending. o_o. Well, I thought it could happen somewhat, but I've never played the game before so here I am, all fresh and innocent, and I had to get blown away by the ending. Gyaah.


It was painful, the last scene, when Arc disappeared like that. I thought it was just Shiki's imagination, but it seems that some of the explanations given here in this thread have given me more information somewhat; how she wants "eternal rest" now.

But god, I really wished they could stay together >_< I was really sad.

[kujoe]

Upon reflection, I thought the series was pretty normal somewhat, but I don't know why it's so gripping when I was watching it ^_^. I think Tsukihime also works better when you watch alone, since there's alot of tone and atmosphere that gives it a real nice feel.
I agree. I tried showing this anime to other people, and for some reason its appeal lessened somewhat. Moreover, I always watched every episode in the evening with the lights out--so that increased the tone and mood of the series. Oh, and the music! No need to elaborate on that one. ;)

And while I also wish that the anime chose a different stance with regard to the ending, I also feel that it turned out nice---a bit short maybe, but still nice in a peaceful sort of way. It was the most "fitting" ending, I guess. Anyway, there are still some "pseudo-sequels" after Tsukihime (such as Melty Blood for example) but I always had the impression that they were just "what-if" scenarios. After all, Tsukihime is what launched Typemoon into the company they are now.

And the game has a Good Ending btw. From what I've heard, Arcueid and Shiki get to fulfill the promise they made together. So the next day, Shiki skips school, meets Arcueid in the park (as usual) and they go on another date. Not as dramatic I suppose, but I haven't played the game anyway. The anime on the other hand, chose to go for Arcueid's True End, which really isn't bad at all.

[arias]

Yes, I agree again with that. It's such a slow paced anime that requires a relaxed mood for you to "absorb" it entirely. Kind of like Haibane Renmei, you know? Watching it together with other people who expect more excitement and such seems to make it seem REALLY boring. ^_^;; Oh well, I also kept a small warm light on while watching with earphones. God. The power of the music was more clearly communicated to me through the earphones :)


I'm aware of the Good Ending. However, like you said, it isn't the "True Ending".. Gyaah. I didn't think that the true ending sucked or anything, it was pretty fitting and it got me T___T and I'm still thinking about it now. I'm bothered by it.

I'm a real sucker for stay-together-forever endings, you know? Ah well. I'll miss having them together T_T

[dreamless]

well, I guess it could become quite boring if they really stay together forever... I mean, staring at the same guy/girl for a couple thousand years? they'd be bored to death XD

Also it will go against Tsukihime's (supposed) theme of the fragility of immortality and the elusiveness of eternity... (or so as some claimed... to be the "real depth" of Tsukihime...)

[Sonhex]

I agree. I tried showing this anime to other people, and for some reason its appeal lessened somewhat. Moreover, I always watched every episode in the evening with the lights out--so that increased the tone and mood of the series. Oh, and the music! No need to elaborate on that one. ;)

And while I also wish that the anime chose a different stance with regard to the ending, I also feel that it turned out nice---a bit short maybe, but still nice in a peaceful sort of way. It was the most "fitting" ending, I guess. Anyway, there are still some "pseudo-sequels" after Tsukihime (such as Melty Blood for example) but I always had the impression that they were just "what-if" scenarios. After all, Tsukihime is what launched Typemoon into the company they are now.

And the game has a Good Ending btw. From what I've heard, Arcueid and Shiki get to fulfill the promise they made together. So the next day, Shiki skips school, meets Arcueid in the park (as usual) and they go on another date. Not as dramatic I suppose, but I haven't played the game anyway. The anime on the other hand, chose to go for Arcueid's True End, which really isn't bad at all.

I learn something new each day here, I didn't know there was a game and 2 sequels. Do they feature characters from the anime? Playable Ciel? That would be worth the import duty alone ;)

On the ending...

...it didn't bother me that much, I kind of expected it. What annoyed me was that Ciel was woefully underused in that last episode. Plus we never really got to see her tattoos up close...

[arias]

well, I guess it could become quite boring if they really stay together forever... I mean, staring at the same guy/girl for a couple thousand years? they'd be bored to death XD

Also it will go against Tsukihime's (supposed) theme of the fragility of immortality and the elusiveness of eternity... (or so as some claimed... to be the "real depth" of Tsukihime...)

I'd opt for boring happiness anytime :D

But yeah, I know what you mean about the effects of Tsukihime (I am not sure whether it was designed with such a theme in mind), plus, with such a heart-wrenching ending, it's much more poignant and memorable.

Still... >_<

[Holy Knight]

...Plus we never really got to see her tattoos up close...

Yeah, its too bad we weren't able to see it completely. heh

[Ambience Blue]

Yeah, its too bad we weren't able to see it completely. heh Yeesh. They showed up, and looked rather like the wet-n-apply childrens' tatoos. :eyespin: Cosplayers have been killing themselves over those :heh: . Anyways, I agree. I liked the series, though the ending was a bit confusing for ppl who haven't played the game. It was odd, since I expected way more action following the first several episodes, but the drama ended up looking great anyways. The OST was incredible, and every time I hear Sacred Moon, I salivate. Animation was pretty top-knotch IMO. A gem of a series, it narrowly makes my top 10.

[zalas]

Yeesh. They showed up, and looked rather like the wet-n-apply childrens' tatoos. :eyespin: Cosplayers have been killing themselves over those :heh: . Anyways, I agree. I liked the series, though the ending was a bit confusing for ppl who haven't played the game. It was odd, since I expected way more action following the first several episodes, but the drama ended up looking great anyways. The OST was incredible, and every time I hear Sacred Moon, I salivate. Animation was pretty top-knotch IMO. A gem of a series, it narrowly makes my top 10.
Tsukihime had really good still shots and gorgeous backgrounds, but the 'animation' was really low par, especially later on in the series. There were missing in between frames, missing 'animation' (when Akiha falls over), and duplicated scenes (there's one scene when Hisui is not talking, but they used the scene from when she was talking so she's flapping her mouth without any sound).

[arias]

Tsukihime had really good still shots and gorgeous backgrounds, but the 'animation' was really low par, especially later on in the series. There were missing in between frames, missing 'animation' (when Akiha falls over), and duplicated scenes (there's one scene when Hisui is not talking, but they used the scene from when she was talking so she's flapping her mouth without any sound).

Animation didn't really bother me; I didn't expect much of Tsukihime in animation. But the mood and music really startled me ^_^.. I'm not sure whether its really a "gem" of a series for me, but I really like it quite abit. It really hooked me right in while I was watching, and I felt my heart wrench at its end, so it did get quite a hold on me.

I'm still quite bothered by its end now, so that must be some effect ^_^

Man, how'd you get the OST? I want it! T__T

[zalas]

Animation didn't really bother me; I didn't expect much of Tsukihime in animation. But the mood and music really startled me ^_^.. I'm not sure whether its really a "gem" of a series for me, but I really like it quite abit. It really hooked me right in while I was watching, and I felt my heart wrench at its end, so it did get quite a hold on me.

I'm still quite bothered by its end now, so that must be some effect ^_^

Man, how'd you get the OST? I want it! T__T
If you can't get the expensive Japanese OSTs, you can get the American licensed version of the OSTs from Geneon. Places like www.rightstuf.com carry it.

[Diaphanus]

Unfortunately, I've never seen the Tsukihime anime. :(

I've never played the relevant games. :( :(

However, I already like Akiha very much. She's cute, but a bit morose. I really like her eyes. For that reason, I have decided to give her the epithet glaucopis (with grayish blue eyes... it can also refer to owl eyes or terrible eyes).

Moreover, I gave her the epithet autumnifolia, meaning of an autumn-leaf.

[Shinova]

Unfortunately, I've never seen the Tsukihime anime. :(

I've never played the relevant games. :( :(

However, I already like Akiha very much. She's cute, but a bit morose. I really like her eyes. For that reason, I have decided to give her the epithet glaucopis (with grayish blue eyes... it can also refer to owl eyes or terrible eyes).

Moreover, I gave her the epithet autumnifolia, meaning of an autumn-leaf.


An Akiha fan. Interesting---not that many of those around. :)


So, interested in Tsukihime? Too bad the anime is licensed, though the DVDs should be coming out pretty soon here stateside.


If the anime is your first exposure to Tsukihime, then you'll probably like it. Very absorbing atmosphere. Really draws you in.

If you've played or researched the original game and its sequels, however, then the anime is a poor adaptation of the original.

That said, you will want to check out this site: http://www.geocities.com/max3075/top.htm

It's the #1 Tsukihime fansite for english-speakers, as far as I can tell. Very informative, delves very deeply into the universe of Tsukihime and the rest of Typemoon as a whole. Has a comparison between the original and anime, and best of all, it has a translated walkthrough for the original game! :D


Beware of the characters section; it contains A LOT of spoilers.

Also drop by the forums. ;)

[Diaphanus]

An Akiha fan. Interesting---not that many of those around. :)
I actually find that surprising. Akiha seems to come off as a bossy, battle-ax "sister," but I think she is an interesting character in a "evil" sort of way.

So, interested in Tsukihime? Too bad the anime is licensed, though the DVDs should be coming out pretty soon here stateside.
It's a shame, I think, that I learned about TH after the anime got licensed. I tried several ways to find the episodes online, but that didn't work out well. On the other hand, however, I am happy about the upcoming DVDs.

If the anime is your first exposure to Tsukihime, then you'll probably like it. Very absorbing atmosphere. Really draws you in.
That is what I heard! I also heard that fans generally like the TH game better. Anyway, I hope to play Melty Blood someday. Gee, guess which character I'm going to play first!

If you've played or researched the original game and its sequels, however, then the anime is a poor adaptation of the original.
Yeah, I've read about that. Still, I would like to see the anime, anyway!

That said, you will want to check out this site: http://www.geocities.com/max3075/top.htm

It's the #1 Tsukihime fansite for english-speakers, as far as I can tell. Very informative, delves very deeply into the universe of Tsukihime and the rest of Typemoon as a whole. Has a comparison between the original and anime, and best of all, it has a translated walkthrough for the original game! :D
Thanks for the link, but I already know about the site! :)

Also drop by the forums. ;)
I post there sometimes! Here (http://nrvnqsr.proboards20.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&num=1093971410&start=0) is my first post. You wouldn't happen to be another evil sibling of the Shinova who posts there, eh?

[Shinova]

You know what's kinda sad?


I didn't even notice your name until just now. :twitch:



*bangs head repeatedly against desk*


Nah, I'm the one and the same. I still can't believe I didn't notice your name....

[The Yellow Dwarf]

EDIT: Oh yeah, someone here said that he wasn't sure if the voices in Melty Blood really were the same ones in the anime. I'm sure they are. Arcueid sounds pretty high-pitched, but the actress's the same. :)

But, I just found out that Aozaki Aoko in Melty Blood is actually voiced by Mtsuishi Kotono (of Tsukino Usagi and Excel Excel fame)! No wonder I liked the MB Aoko so much. =)
The anime Aoko (by someone named Kimura Akiko) is a lot more "grown-up" and "mysterious" and a bit maternal, which suits the anime's mood as well.

[Diaphanus]

Nah, I'm the one and the same. I still can't believe I didn't notice your name....
Ah, don't worry about it.

I'm a little surprised, though, that you didn't notice the "autumnifolia." I wrote "Ego Akiham autumnifoliam amo" ("I love autumn-leaf Akiha") over at Beast's Lair.

Oh, and happy birthday, Akiha! :D :D :D :D :D

[Wilcon]

It really is a masterpiece IMO. The animation and music was just stunning(and the Opening gave you this feeling that it's really "massive").

A few questions though(might have been answered, I haven't read through all 34 pages):

1.
I really didn't understand why Shiki killed Arcueid in the first episode. You never get to know that, right? I mean, you just saw him standing with a knife and her dead, but I didn't quite understand it. Why would he kill a unknown woman for no reason??

2.
Who was the woman with red hair, the sorceress? Where was that place where he met her(in the ending for example).

3.
What/who was Akiha? A vampire? or who did she have powers?(I know it's something special, but not what, maybe they never intended to let us know?)

[evil|plushie]

This page has all the answers -_-

http://www.geocities.com/max3075/

[Wilcon]

OK, thank you, I'll try looking for it there.

[Forbin]

Wow Boy does that really build on the Anime! I never knew the whole story of the princess and just how much back story there is.

Thanks EvilPlushie.

[kujoe]

Personally, all the background information is part of the reason why I like Tsukihime and its world.

And the weird thing is, the more spoiled I got with all the extra info and all, the more interesting Tsukihime became!

[kj1980]

A few questions though(might have been answered, I haven't read through all 34 pages):

Do a search in this thread under my name.

[Shinova]

This page has all the answers -_-

http://www.geocities.com/max3075/


Onward, comrades!! For Evospace's future dominion over all English-speaking Tsukihime fandom!!! :D :D





Bonus: Check the forums and you'll see Kagetsu Tohya virtually entirely summarized. Dozens of pages of doujin translated, at least a dozen of them scanlated. Two of our guys are working on the Tsukihime translation project. We have several completed fanfics, a few more ongoing, two really great fanartists, etc.

[/site pimp] :heh:

[USCPharmacist]

The Crimson Moon shall rise and turn you capitalists into communist....I meant shitos....that's until good old "Zel" the party pooper comes in and trash everything.

Anyway I wish they make a sequel to Tsukihime that focus on the ORT invasion. So we can see Arcueid, Ciel, Akiha, Sion, Hisui, Kohaku, Satsuki and Aoko bust out some supernatural power on alien space spiders ehehe. You ask where is Shiki?
He be the pimp directing the fight that's where he is!!

[Shinova]

You ask where is Shiki?
He be the pimp directing the fight that's where he is!!


Decked in an outfit that puts Goldy's to shame for pimptasticness. :)

[noodles87]

Shingetsutan Tsukihime is the best anime ever! Wish i could buy the games too, but the their still not done translating the game. :( . I wish there were more than 12 episodes :( , but there still is a chance for a sequel. Arcrueid doesn't die, instead she falls back asleep until she must fight Roa again. Hopefully they release a Tsukihime 2. *Noodles is praying currently*

[Forbin]

Arcueid doesn't die, instead she falls back asleep until she must fight Roa again.

Not Quite.
Roa is gone. Didn't Shiki kill his soul? Arcueid is asleep because she is getting the blood thirst again now that Roa is gone

But I do want a 2nd one to be made. Or the games translated to English at least.

[noodles87]

Uhmm i think you might need to watch it again. Or a better version. Yeah it would be great that the game is translated into English. It's almost done. You can dl Melty Blood demo already.

Uhmm i believe Shiki, actually it was Ciel-senpai that killed the other Shiki. Roa can't die remember? He has obtained the power to reincarnate.

[kujoe]

Roa can't die remember? He has obtained the power to reincarnate.
This has been discussed already. Shiki stabbed Roa's "dot" remember? With that stabbed, it wasn't only his life that Shiki killed, but his entire existence as well. Okay, that sounds like a bad explanation. Just think of it as Shiki administering "true death" as opposed to simply killing him. This is one of the reasons why Shiki is considered as a killer in the fullest sense of the word.

[noodles87]

Oh well. Anyways its still an awesome anime. It should be rated on of the best in years.

[Proto]

http://www.geocities.com/max3075/

Is there a mirror for this page. I cant' seem to open it right now (it sends me to a black backgrounded screen) i've tried with both Internet Explorer and Firefox

[STfan]

Same here. Can't see anything but black.


It seems many people complain about Tsukihime only being 12 episodes.

I ask, would you rather have it get bloated to fifty and be filled with worthless filler, panty shots, or repetitive "romantic scenes" with two people falling over each other or staring at each other while blushing?

With how well done it is, I'm very grateful they stopped at twelve episodes before risking messing it up. :rolleyes:

[Proto]

Hmm... maybe if they had extended it to 15 chapters so they could stay true to the game's story, but all in all it was quite a well done series, even though it had some open ends.

[NoSanninWa]

Same here. Can't see anything but black.


It seems many people complain about Tsukihime only being 12 episodes.

I ask, would you rather have it get bloated to fifty and be filled with worthless filler, panty shots, or repetitive "romantic scenes" with two people falling over each other or staring at each other while blushing?

With how well done it is, I'm very grateful they stopped at twelve episodes before risking messing it up. :rolleyes:
Not an issue at all with this show. They were 12 rather rushed episodes that managed to skip about 50% of what happened in the game. This could have been 26 episodes easily without needing to resort to filler or repetition. This series was stripped down to the bone to fit it into 12 episodes.

More isn't always better, but neither is less. Every story requires its own length. This story needed more time to tell it.

[Forbin]

Well if they took it to 26 they could've developed the story of the Church and the fact that his friend is really a vampire now. I forget all their names, after Arcueid. Or they could've finished it with a story of Melty Blood :)

[STfan]

I can't see how "staying true to the game's story" would make the piece better in any way except as a copy of the game storyline.

[Forbin]

Because you are left with many questions that have been answered in the Game.
I'm not sure if to put this in spoilers but as the Anime is over it doesn't need them.

1) Arcueid didn't die, the ending he saw was real.
2) The 'dot' was an important part of the game, it means he was killing the soul more than the body.
3) They REALLY needed to build Akiha's side story, you didn't even KNOW the Maid's side story.
4) Heck Ciel didn't even get a proper story. Mystery girl shows up, Arcueid and Akiha hate her because she works for the church, she has neat tattoos, and poof she is gone.

This really was a Horror Harem, but because they only had 13 episodes they just focused on Arcueid's story, with a dash of Ciel and his sister. There was so much more that they could've added. That's like Taking Kare Kano and cutting out all her friends and just focusing on Yukino and Arima. While it was a good story, fans of the manga of Kare Kano wouldn't have been satisfied with the plot. (Elfen Lied is another case of of this).

I loved Lunar Legend, I just wanted MORE!

[kujoe]

1) Arcueid didn't die, the ending he saw was real.
2) The 'dot' was an important part of the game, it means he was killing the soul more than the body.
3) They REALLY needed to build Akiha's side story, you didn't even KNOW the Maid's side story.
4) Heck Ciel didn't even get a proper story. Mystery girl shows up, Arcueid and Akiha hate her because she works for the church, she has neat tattoos, and poof she is gone.
Not to mention that more info on the history of the Nanaya Clan would've been definitely welcome. In the anime, it's not even exactly explained why Shiki went nuts when he saw Arcueid the first time.

[Forbin]

Well that one is easy...because it would've contradicted living with his sister.

The Nanaya blood should've made him kill Akiha as well as Arcueid. So they probably left it out as a unresolved plot point.

But it made a great love story. 'How did you 2 meet?' 'Well when we first met he cut me into 17 pieces. It was love a first sight' :)

[NoSanninWa]

I can't see how "staying true to the game's story" would make the piece better in any way except as a copy of the game storyline.
There were reams of interesting background material, but most importantly they left out the whole Kohaku/Hisui plot which actually caused the tragedy with Tohno Shiki escaping. There was a lot of dark twisted stuff there. We only saw a few shreds of it like the moment when Akiha was drinking her maid's blood. It ties into the reason that Akiha was so generally troubled as well as the reason that her brother, Shiki, attacked her when they were children. None of that stuff was ever explained in the anime. You'd have to know the game to understand it. Having to play the game to fully understand the anime is unarguable evidence of bad storytelling. These are examples of how the story was badly pruned to shoehorn it into only 12 episodes.

[noodles87]

It would be great if Tsukhime, the game had its code translated into english. They are working on Melty Blood, but Tsukihime is on hold. :(

[zalas]

It would be great if Tsukhime, the game had its code translated into english. They are working on Melty Blood, but Tsukihime is on hold. :(
I think you got it backwards...

[NoSanninWa]

It would be great if Tsukhime, the game had its code translated into english. They are working on Melty Blood, but Tsukihime is on hold. :(
Tsukihime almost 40% translated by Mirror Moon and still going!

[da_man741852963]

so...do they have plans of making an anime version of the sequel?

[noodles87]

Uhmm currently there is no news about a sequel or OVA for Shingetsutan Tsukihime. It seems like the director likes to end animes in 12-13 episodes. He also directed Gunparade March. That needs a sequel too...

[noodles87]

Oh yeah! My bad on the Tsukihime and Melty Blood comment. Melty Blood is currently on hold. I hope they finish the translation before the summer of 05'.

[Forbin]

Uhmm currently there is no news about a sequel or OVA for Shingetsutan Tsukihime. It seems like the director likes to end animes in 12-13 episodes. He also directed Gunparade March. That needs a sequel too...
GPM actually was done. The only thing it really needs is a OVA or extra episode to finish up the rest of the cast.

[STfan]

Tsukihime almost 40% translated by Mirror Moon and still going!

OMG. I can NOT wait to see a translated version of Tsukihime.

If the game was distributed in the United States translated into English, I would so get it if it cost a HUNDRED FREAKING DOLLARS.

Does Mirror Moon need anything to speed them up? Coffee? Biscuits?!

[noodles87]

GPM doesn't follow the manga at all. I've read it. Anyways back to Tsukihime. It would really help them if the had more proofreaders, at least that what i've seen on the website. I wish i could help, but i'm not fluent in japanese because i'm chinese. :) I really want the game soon. It's going to be great.

[Thewanderer]

This show seems interesting. But since it's licensed, I'm guessing I could just pick it up at my local store, huh?

Though is it available on DVD? Game? What? >.<

[NoSanninWa]

The game has not yet been translated into English. For more information about that please read Tsukihime being translated by Mirror Moon.

As for the DVDs, Geneon has released DVDs 1 and 2. The final DVD 3 is to be released later this month.

[Thewanderer]

The game has not yet been translated into English. For more information about that please read Tsukihime being translated by Mirror Moon.

As for the DVDs, Geneon has released DVDs 1 and 2. The final DVD 3 is to be released later this month.
Alright, thanks a bunch.

[xris]

As for the DVDs, Geneon has released DVDs 1 and 2. The final DVD 3 is to be released later this month.
I think you may have the year mixed up, all three DVDs of Lunar Legend Tsukihime have been released for narly a year. Here are the release dates and links to DVDPacific (http://www.dvdpacific.com/),

Vol 1 (http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=606431) 12th Oct 2004
Vol 2 (http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=618072) 28th Dec 2004
Vol 3 (http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=631691) 22nd Feb 2005
Box Set (http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=680065) 4th Oct 2005

The DVDs from here are about $19 each and the boxset $56

[Forbin]

Whoa! NSW Made a Mistake!

I was going to say that I've had a DVD #3 for almost a year!

[Thewanderer]

I think you may have the year mixed up, all three DVDs of Lunar Legend Tsukihime have been released for narly a year. Here are the release dates and links to DVDPacific (http://www.dvdpacific.com/),

Vol 1 (http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=606431) 12th Oct 2004
Vol 2 (http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=618072) 28th Dec 2004
Vol 3 (http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=631691) 22nd Feb 2005
Box Set (http://www.dvdpacific.com/item.asp?ID=680065) 4th Oct 2005

The DVDs from here are about $19 each and the boxset $56

Whoa! NSW Made a Mistake!

I was going to say that I've had a DVD #3 for almost a year!
Okay guys, thanks a bunch.

*plans a purchise in teh near future*

[NoSanninWa]

Whoa! NSW Made a Mistake!

I was going to say that I've had a DVD #3 for almost a year!
I stand exposed as vincible. :sad:

[techiet]

How is the anime compared to the manga? I have the first graphic novel (still trying to find the second), and I was thinking of getting the anime. Is the anime really that bad compared to the game?

[Mr.Hawq]

I know nothing of the game, and the manga, but i thought that the anime was pretty good. The ending was ok, the show could have been better if a little longer, but still enjoyed watching it. The best part of the anime is how good arcueid looks to me.

[deathbygirl]

If Shingetsutan Tsukihime was planned to be twenty-four episodes, like Fate/Stay, it would probably have been significantly better (in terms of story development and having the luxury of another season to develop the events and cover more characters). Regardless, it was a very nice series and worth a watch.

I believe the main complaint that the people who have played the game have is the fact that a multitude of events and plots of secondary characters were not covered (either throughly enough or not at all) in comparison to the game's plot. I can't refute or agree with this sentiment, since I have not played it myself.

[Maids! Maids! Maids!]

If I promise not to neglect the domestics, would you guys mind if I post some images here. I've managed to find a lot of good stuff while hunting F/SN images, and I'd like to share.

[Shiroth]

If I promise not to neglect the domestics, would you guys mind if I post some images here. I've managed to find a lot of good stuff while hunting F/SN images, and I'd like to share.
I don't see any problem in that - being a big fan of Tsukihime.. i just wanna see some new images. ^^

[Altima of the Gates]

If I promise not to neglect the domestics, would you guys mind if I post some images here. I've managed to find a lot of good stuff while hunting F/SN images, and I'd like to share.

It would be more than appreciated, since you're known to find some very good pics by what i've seen in the Fate forum. :)

[Jinx626]

How is the anime compared to the manga? I have the first graphic novel (still trying to find the second), and I was thinking of getting the anime. Is the anime really that bad compared to the game?


The manga is more true to the game than the anime is in regards to character personalities and story. Besides that the manga has so much better scenes of the fights (ie Nero vs Shiki in Nanaya Mode). The anime was very disappointing to hard-core fans but it is what got me into the Type-Moon world and such :heh: I have the DVD's sitting on my shelf since i am a type-moon nut...

[Shiroth]

The manga is more true to the game than the anime is in regards to character personalities and story. Besides that the manga has so much better scenes of the fights (ie Nero vs Shiki in Nanaya Mode). The anime was very disappointing to hard-core fans but it is what got me into the Type-Moon world and such :heh: I have the DVD's sitting on my shelf since i am a type-moon nut...
I'll have to agree with what's just been said by Jinx, though i found myself to enjoy the Anime.. well if i can just block out the fact that it came from a great game.. and around 50% info' was left out. ^^;

[Forbin]

You mean 84% left out. Because there are 5 girls who's story wasn't told properly.
Satsuki, Akiha, Ciel, Hsusi and Kohaku. :)

[Mr.Hawq]

One thing i hated about Ciel was that, if you were to see posters of this show, she looked so cool, and you expect lots of action from her, but when you see her in the show to me she is usless interms of action. She hardly had any real action moments in this show.

[Shiroth]

You mean 84% left out. Because there are 5 girls who's story wasn't told properly.
Satsuki, Akiha, Ciel, Hsusi and Kohaku. :)
Heh, at least our messages are the same - though if they used all of the females stories in the anime, then it would turn out one hell of a mess, don't you think?

[Forbin]

Heh, at least our messages are the same - though if they used all of the females stories in the anime, then it would turn out one hell of a mess, don't you think?
Nope, it would be a Hentai! :naughty:

[Shiroth]

Nope, it would be a Hentai! :naughty:
Well.. i did say one hell of a mess. >_>

[physics223]

That is why I love this anime. Even if they had shown only 16% of it, it was my favorite anime of all time. Now, what if they had shown 100% of it?

[Thelastguardian]

That is why I love this anime. Even if they had shown only 16% of it, it was my favorite anime of all time. Now, what if they had shown 100% of it?

All the plots will maximixe the AT field resonance effect and proceeds to end the world as we know it.

Actually, since all the characters' stories are linked/supported by one another. In my opinion, the quality would probably increase exponentially while the quantity of the content increases linearly :) .

[Mr.Hawq]

Are you guys stating that the game, is actually a hentai game?

[Shiroth]

Are you guys stating that the game, is actually a hentai game?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukihime

Just so everything's understood.

[Morisato]

Where can I find an indepth summary of the whole game?

[Spuffy]

Where can I find an indepth summary of the whole game?
Here, http://www.geocities.com/max3075/top.htm

[giu_2]

i just saw this serei and it was good:)
it was a little fate/stay nightis and elfen lied :)

[tragicsmile]

i just saw this serei and it was good
it was a little fate/stay nightis and elfen lied


No surprise, since the ren'ai game it was based on was also made by TYPE-MOON. You might say that the Tsukihime game was what made TYPE-MOON's name and allowed them to go commercial and create Fate/Stay Night.

Shame the anime doesn't really do the game justice, though. Try reading the manga, it looks like it's going to go more in-depth. DrMaster has two volumes out already.

[giu_2]

No surprise, since the ren'ai game it was based on was also made by TYPE-MOON. You might say that the Tsukihime game was what made TYPE-MOON's name and allowed them to go commercial and create Fate/Stay Night.

Shame the anime doesn't really do the game justice, though. Try reading the manga, it looks like it's going to go more in-depth. DrMaster has two volumes out already.


ok:)
im gonna look for the manga in my store later.
and one thing bout the anime, the character Aoko aosaki, who was she? i didnt get it..

[Shiroth]

ok:)and one thing bout the anime, the character Aoko aosaki, who was she? i didnt get it..
She's a very strong magican, i know it sucks that she wasen't explained more. ;_;

[giu_2]

She's a very strong magican, i know it sucks that she wasen't explained more. ;_;


Maybe she is from Shinkis past, the Dragon clan (something). do the manga exlpain more abour her?

[Shiroth]

Maybe she is from Shinkis past, the Dragon clan (something). do the manga exlpain more abour her?
I've only read the first volume, and he just has the few scenes that were the same to the anime.. though with a bit better character development - i say, buy the manga.. its seriously much better when compared to the anime, i'm just a huge fan of both versions though.

[techiet]

I'm pretty sure they will explain her in the manga, but I only have the first GN so far. (Looking for the second one...)
I just got around to watching the anime, and I dunno, it really felt like it should have been longer like Fate Stay/Night's anime is going to be.
12 episodes don't seem appropriate for this story.

[Shiroth]

If the anime did reach to at least 24 episodes, then there would have been a lot more time for character backgrounds. Indeed it would have been a lot better - but i love it the way it is.

[physics223]

I'm just reminded at how good this anime is and why it belongs to my top 3...

Thanks for the site of The Moonlit World. I've been searching for this a long time.

[giu_2]

I'm pretty sure they will explain her in the manga, but I only have the first GN so far. (Looking for the second one...)
I just got around to watching the anime, and I dunno, it really felt like it should have been longer like Fate Stay/Night's anime is going to be.
12 episodes don't seem appropriate for this story.


ok,i have now read the first manga =D
theres to much story to fit in onley 12 episodes, 26 would had been better :)

[Shiroth]

26 would had been better
Indeed, with 26 episodes.. there would be enough time for character backgrounds that were in the game.. & also to work on some of the major fight scenes within the anime - though i enjoyed it out it was, but a few changes would have been nice.

[Mr.Hawq]

I enjoyed the 12 episod one also, but they focused to much on Shiki, and Arcueid, so yes it would have been better of it was 26 episodes.

Why don't they just remake the show and make it 26 episodes this time? Would that not be better, just like they remade the Hellsing tv show, with the Hellsing ultimate ova.

[Shiroth]

I enjoyed the 12 episod one also, but they focused to much on Shiki, and Arcueid.
Thats what i loved most about the series. <3

Why don't they just remake the show and make it 26 episodes this time? Would that not be better, just like they remade the Hellsing tv show, with the Hellsing ultimate ova.
That seriously wouldn't do the series any good, yeah thinking about "what if the show was 26 episodes long, it would be a lot better's" fine and all.. but them actually making it.. no way. They made the series 12 episodes long for a reason.

[Mr.Hawq]

Thats what i loved most about the series. <3


That seriously wouldn't do the series any good, yeah thinking about "what if the show was 26 episodes long, it would be a lot better's" fine and all.. but them actually making it.. no way. They made the series 12 episodes long for a reason.

Is it because the type of the game Lunar legend was?

[Shiroth]

Is it because the type of the game Lunar legend was?
What? Not at all.. the anime being longer would be able to explain more from the game. If you mean the H-scenes in the game.. i'm not to sure what that has to do with what i previously said.

[Mr.Hawq]

What? Not at all.. the anime being longer would be able to explain more from the game. If you mean the H-scenes in the game.. i'm not to sure what that has to do with what i previously said.

I thought about it like that because, the way you said " they made it 12 episodes for a reason", kind of sounded a little limited, and restrictive.

[Myname]

Reason? It wasn't popular enough.

[Shiroth]

I thought about it like that because, the way you said " they made it 12 episodes for a reason", kind of sounded a little limited, and restrictive.
What i mean't was, the studio had it at 12 episodes for a reason. They probably just didn't think it was right to add all the character information thats within the game..

[Seyluun]

Or more probably they just didn't have the budget.

[Shiroth]

Or more probably they just didn't have the budget.
You're probably right, not being suck a big company.. and Tsukihime being the first anime based on one of there games too.

[giu_2]

You're probably right, not being suck a big company.. and Tsukihime being the first anime based on one of there games too.


ihope it wasnt that,that made it to be 12eps :(
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[Forbin]

ihope it wasnt that,that made it to be 12eps :(

Probably true, remember 'Type-Moon' was brand new into the market. The company JCStaff probably didn't get enough budget to make it a 26 eps heck it isn't even a 13 episode series.

At least Fate is getting the proper treatment but this long format I'm finding a bit slow.

[Shiroth]

At least Fate is getting the proper treatment but this long format I'm finding a bit slow.
Depending on the information thats going to be told in the Fate anime, then it won't go the way of the Tsukihime anime.

[giu_2]

Probably true, remember 'Type-Moon' was brand new into the market. The company JCStaff probably didn't get enough budget to make it a 26 eps heck it isn't even a 13 episode series.

At least Fate is getting the proper treatment but this long format I'm finding a bit slow.

i think it is good that they have "long format" :)
if you mean the story telling

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about the ending if ST

Does Arcueid die or go back to sleep at the end where she is talking with Shiki is in the classroom?

[Forbin]

i think it is good that they have "long format" :)
if you mean the story telling

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about the ending if ST

Does Arcueid die or go back to sleep at the end where she is talking with Shiki is in the classroom?


The Game's True Ending says she did the little speech to Shiki and went back to sleep in the castle. Roa's destruction had fully awakened her blood thirst and nothing will satisfy it (All of Roa's power and thirsts went back to Arcuied).

When he rushed up to her she vanished because if he got any closer she would've bit him. Sad eh?

[Seyluun]

Shiki ought to become a master, win the Holy Grail war, and wish for Arcueid to be liberated from her thrist ^^

[physics223]

She also said that she'd rather sleep forever dreaming of the fun she had with Shiki rather than hurt any others of his kind. Yes, she's a great character. I almost cried when I found this out.

[Shiroth]

She also said that she'd rather sleep forever dreaming of the fun she had with Shiki rather than hurt any others of his kind. Yes, she's a great character. I almost cried when I found this out.
Thats what made Arcueid one of my fav' characters in history, the level of cuteness & depression the last scene brings is amazing, i'm looking forward to seeing what the scene's like in the manga.