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lamort_noir
2003-11-08, 04:56
I was just wondering who else here is a big fan of this anime and also who would know who wrote the opening song who did it i mean and whats the song called is it called sacred moon i dont no ive been looking i enjoy this anime alot and that opening song is killer!
whatever123
2003-11-08, 09:42
its a great show filled with suspense and thrill, too bad its only 12 episodes
This is indeed one of the best shows at the moment. Only 12 eps ?? oh no.. I hope they don't make stupid ending like in Hellsing..
Hmm... just start watching a few days back, I must say its pretty intriguing... :o
It has potential... :D
This is definately my favorite animes right now. It might have a pretty sad ending (being a darker anime), but a sad ending doesn't mean it is a bad ending.
As for 12 episodes, that is probably for the best...and on the bright side, it means purchasing the entire DVD set will be cheap.
Anlushac11
2003-11-08, 13:02
This is one of my favorites at the moment. Love the show and Arcueid
is an anime hottie.
12 episodes? too short!!! I saw the link someone posted with the ultimate spoilers to this series and certainly it can go a long way. Unless they are going to start chopping off many of the things that happened (like that Nero Chaos who died so fast making him seem so much weaker than he actually was), and that's as bad as a poor ending.
NenMaster
2003-11-08, 15:41
yea i like this series, but as soon as it goes crappy its getting dumped
I was just wondering who else here is a big fan of this anime and also who would know who wrote the opening song who did it i mean and whats the song called is it called sacred moon i dont no ive been looking i enjoy this anime alot and that opening song is killer!
The opening song is the Sacred Moon
It's by Toshiyuki Ohmori (I think that's the right way to pronounce the name)
Seeing as it's produced by Geneon Entertainment, it's probably going to be on the original soundtrack.
I can't believe there only will be 12 episodes. Thar is really tooo tooo short...
I really like the purple haired girl (forgot her name). She hasn't even do a thing except standing on a lightpole and attacked a vending machine.....
I like that red hair sorceress. She seem so cool! I hope she'll appear in real soon and not just in Shiki's flashbacks.
DragonNinja
2003-11-09, 02:46
I thought this was a 13 ep Series ..
Anyway Tsukihime 05 [4327F744] is out by AonE
Arcuied looks cool
lamort_noir
2003-11-11, 23:43
Speaking of Arcuied I dont think im the only one but i think she should get together with the main character god i forgot his name soo many anime im watching and btw i had to use Virtual dub to get Sacred Moon since the ost doesnt come out till next month at least thats what i heard on mIRC #Anime-Keep
Hey the ending in hellsing wasnt all that bad,just when they made i there was a good possibility for a second season(im still hoping for it by they way)Rumors has it that the 2nd season of hellsing wont start until the manga is over(just a note i have no clue if its over already or not).
Now on tsukihime,i love the series,im sad to see that it only 12 episodes,but ig uess it is all on how they play out the rest before i can give a true opinion on this show,too many unanswered question right now
Wandering_Youth
2003-11-12, 00:06
Well it's based on a H-game and they always are short when made into an anime.
"[PennyWise]Hey the ending in hellsing wasnt all that bad,just when they made i there was a good possibility for a second season(im still hoping for it by they way)Rumors has it that the 2nd season of hellsing wont start until the manga is over(just a note i have no clue if its over already or not)."
No shit, a new Hellsing season would be awsome, where did you hear these rumors from.
Yup Im a big fan of this show, the opening theme song is awsome I have the MP3 of it somewhere on my computer. And yeah thats too bad its only 12-13 episodes long it should longer.
i think it wa on animenations forums about a month or 2 ago.-
It should be 12 episodes, unless they're making one DVD have 3 episodes instead of 2...
And just because something is based on an H-game doesn't mean it's going to be short. Da Capo is past the 13 ep mark, and it's based on an H-game.
It should be 12 episodes, unless they're making one DVD have 3 episodes instead of 2...
And just because something is based on an H-game doesn't mean it's going to be short. Da Capo is past the 13 ep mark, and it's based on an H-game.
Well its true alot of H-game based animes seem to be short for some reason with the exception of Da Capo for instance Kanon, Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito, Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, Tsukihime, Green Green just to name a few.
Well its true alot of H-game based animes seem to be short for some reason with the exception of Da Capo for instance Kanon, Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito, Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, Tsukihime, Green Green just to name a few.
I still wouldn't call a ~13 episode season short. For example, many normal anime like Haibane Renmei, Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai, Crest of the Stars and Battleflag of the Stars have ~13 episode seasons.
With some of the longer series, you have either people really wanting to milk money out of a franchise or you have a really long manga (that tends to be longer story-wise than a graphic novel, since a manga will have pictures to say some of the things indicated in novels)
It should be 12 episodes, unless they're making one DVD have 3 episodes instead of 2...
And just because something is based on an H-game doesn't mean it's going to be short. Da Capo is past the 13 ep mark, and it's based on an H-game.
Considering Da Capo is actually a 15 min per episode, excluding the side stories and PVs, you can still think it's a 13 episodes series. ;)
lamort_noir
2003-11-12, 11:00
I still wouldn't call a ~13 episode season short. For example, many normal anime like Haibane Renmei, Abenobashi Mahou Shoutengai, Crest of the Stars and Battleflag of the Stars have ~13 episode seasons.
With some of the longer series, you have either people really wanting to milk money out of a franchise or you have a really long manga (that tends to be longer story-wise than a graphic novel, since a manga will have pictures to say some of the things indicated in novels)
If thats the case why havent they made a anime from xenogears the damn character development the plot the whole story would be perfect and they couldnt do it under 100 episodes with how long the whole story is but there would be about 6 seasons in that case one for every game well 6 if the rumor is true about them making a game past xenogears (xenosaga episode 5)
lamort_noir
2003-11-12, 11:03
If thats the case why havent they made a anime from xenogears the damn character development the plot the whole story would be perfect and they couldnt do it under 100 episodes with how long the whole story is but there would be about 6 seasons in that case one for every game well 6 if the rumor is true about them making a game past xenogears (xenosaga episode 5)
Its too bad that True Lunar Chronicles is that short it seems sooo good so far and it has a nice story and arcueid is hot lol but also its sad Haibane-Renmei is short too i have been buying the dvds for them and i like that anime alot
Just like fruits basket i liked it alot and while they were in middle of making them they stopped at the 4th dvd and it clearly deserved at least 1 more dvd of episodes to conclude the story
oh and speaking of what else should of been longer BERSERK i mean wtf is up with how they ended that anime altho there has been a rumor of more coming out since the manga is still being put out its just ridiculous how under-wraps they keep us fans :( i sometimes feel like these companies just love to toy with us :(
oh and speaking of what else should of been longer BERSERK i mean wtf is up with how they ended that anime altho there has been a rumor of more coming out since the manga is still being put out its just ridiculous how under-wraps they keep us fans i sometimes feel like these companies just love to toy with us
On the old forums someone posted a link to a foreign website that mentioned Berserk having another season in 2004. However it was never confirmed if the site was legitimate or not so it was just assumed that it was simply a rumor.
Some of the best anime are really short..and its much cheaper to buy an anime thats only 12 episodes instead of 50+..I really dont mind it as long as it has a decent ending (not necessarily happy ending..but a fitting ending).
Can we like stop this 'how many episode' thing and get back to the original topic?
I don't know why everyone is so crazy over Arcueid. I like her character but IMHO she's really not that hot. In fact her looks and dressing are really plain. It's just that her character stands out because of who she is. And she can't be an item with Shiki right? She looks so much older than him. I was hoping that he'll be with his classmate but now it seems kinda impossible...
Well, she's a quite beautiful foreign woman, so I think she would stand out a lot in the street, althought I agree with you int that it was a bit too much.
Anlushac11
2003-11-12, 16:25
I have my suspicions about Shiki's female classmate.
Wheres the best place to hide something?
As for Arcuied, I dont get a evil vibe off of her. I think she has come to destroy the bloodsuckers and she is determined to fulfil her mission. She likes Shiki and does not want to see him hurt but at the same time he has become a new and powerful weapon she can use against the bloodsuckers. If Shiki and her can accomplish her goals and Shiki lives then fine but if he dies then that is the price that had to be paid. I also get a feeling something more is going on with the girl that was supposed to go to the hotel and was sick and didnt make it. I dont trust her. I cant put my finger on it but something is screaming at me that something is wrong concerning her.
ElvenPath
2003-11-12, 18:06
The first 4 eps looked promising but darn ep5 confirmes that ST is just too slow and the plot sucks. Hope i'm not the only one not to like ST...
I think that Ciel (that Shiki's blue haired schoolmate) has same ability that Shiki has or something like that since...
She always uses glasses in school, but like in first episode and now at the end of fifth episode she has no glasses, when she is stand on that lightpole...
Am I the only one that wants more screentime for her? :D
And just a thought about Arcueid's popularity... maybe japanese are just crazy for blonds... :D
Aquillion
2003-11-12, 19:44
Well, in episode 5... ...Ciel implies that she's at least 800 years old and capable of killing a wounded Arc, while Arc points out that she's killed Ciel before. Also, Ciel stands on top of lampposts constantly and wields three swords at once. This would tend to put someone on the 'not normal' side of things regardless of her other abilities, I think.As for Ciel's glasses, though, it seems to me that they're just part of her disguise. In fact, they are her disguise. Sort of like Superman.
And Arc is tall and blond with blood red eyes and amazingly pale skin. That's going to attract attention anywhere you go in Japan. Besides, she might not be 'anime beautiful', but by normal human standards she would be quite beautiful.
lamort_noir
2003-11-13, 00:41
On the old forums someone posted a link to a foreign website that mentioned Berserk having another season in 2004. However it was never confirmed if the site was legitimate or not so it was just assumed that it was simply a rumor.
Some of the best anime are really short..and its much cheaper to buy an anime thats only 12 episodes instead of 50+..I really dont mind it as long as it has a decent ending (not necessarily happy ending..but a fitting ending).
True if the ending is good but have you seen berserk's supposed ending? lol it sux but all through the anime its cool untill then lol
lamort_noir
2003-11-13, 00:47
Can we like stop this 'how many episode' thing and get back to the original topic?
I don't know why everyone is so crazy over Arcueid. I like her character but IMHO she's really not that hot. In fact her looks and dressing are really plain. It's just that her character stands out because of who she is. And she can't be an item with Shiki right? She looks so much older than him. I was hoping that he'll be with his classmate but now it seems kinda impossible...
ok first of all there is relevance in what we say since there is only like 13 eps of Shingetsutan tsukihime thats where that conversation kinda spawned from but does that matter and in any rate I think shes real hot her eyes are awesome and i like her smile then again i think the normal looking vampire is sexy lol believe it or not lol
Arcueid? I like her eyes... blood red. Btw, do you all realize that Arc is not wearing any cool gothic bodytight costume like vampires usually do? The producers probably don't want it to be just another show with a vampiric theme. Good one there... :D
If you have seen the artbook/prologue... It seems she tasted blood long time ago, I wonder how its going to connect with the conversation between Arc and Ciel. Interesting...
NenMaster
2003-11-13, 16:15
Arcueid? I like her eyes... blood red. Btw, do you all realize that Arc is not wearing any cool gothic bodytight costume like vampires usually do? The producers probably don't want it to be just another show with a vampiric theme. Good one there... :D
If you have seen the artbook/prologue... It seems she tasted blood long time ago, I wonder how its going to connect with the conversation between Arc and Ciel. Interesting...
yea i agree, here eyes are nice as well :)
wow i just watched the first ep and must say i am hooked. i have to find out what is going on because it will drive me insane otherwise. was anyone as compelled to find out what will happen in the rest of the series as i am?
was anyone as compelled to find out what will happen in the rest of the series as i am?Dont even get me started...:D
don't get you started in a good way or a bad way?
You should have guessed it by my grand smile:D..Very much good way..So far up to ep-5 only good things could be mentioned about the series...and I dont want to spoil you as you have mentioned you have only seen ep 1..
i will be watching the rest tonight as i have them downloaded. just have a lot on my agenda so i will have to get to them later. very glad you agree though, we will talk about it more tonight when i have seen the next 4. also i am happy to see that someone is still subbing gad guard, i know it is licensed in all but i have the first 18 and i love the series. being broke right now doesn't let me buy dvd's like i usually do, i mean hell i own over 190 dvd's :D
this anime and Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien have really surprised me. i didn't think i would like either but i was looking for something new to download and decided to give them a shot. extremely glad i did. both have really peaked my interest.
lamort_noir
2003-11-14, 02:34
this anime and Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien have really surprised me. i didn't think i would like either but i was looking for something new to download and decided to give them a shot. extremely glad i did. both have really peaked my interest.
Oh yeah man you have stumbled upon a gold mind let me tell you :) I love both Shingetsutan Tsukihime and Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien I really believe you got a good head on your shoulders lol btw a good way to see how good an anime is just look at how many dl's they've had especially if your interested in seeing a new series or something :) thats how i ran into all mine well except the full metal's (panic and alchemist ) those i knew they were gonna rule :) i think you should definetely dl those if you havent dled them yet especially if your wanted a big laugh dl full metal panic thats my suggestion :)
yeah i have been downloading full metal alchemist and will be getting full metal panics from my friends.
I think this is the best series of the new bunch. My favorite was FullMetal Alchemist but Tsukihime just has this special something about it. It seems that Kima Ga Nozumu Eien is also very popular but I dont care to watch that kind of anime, I just can't see how I could get into a drama/romance anime ugh.
Tommy i said the same thing but so many people have dl and talked about it. So i decided to give it a try, and i actually really like kimi ga. It's not your typical drama love story anime like it seems to be at first. It deals with some heavy tones and makes you feel for the characters whether you feel they are wrong or not.
...........Geez listen to me, never thought in a million years would i talk about an anime like this. HEHE oh well glad i didn't pass up this one or true lunar. Would have really lost out otherwise.
lamort_noir
2003-11-14, 14:53
Tommy i said the same thing but so many people have dl and talked about it. So i decided to give it a try, and i actually really like kimi ga. It's not your typical drama love story anime like it seems to be at first. It deals with some heavy tones and makes you feel for the characters whether you feel they are wrong or not.
...........Geez listen to me, never thought in a million years would i talk about an anime like this. HEHE oh well glad i didn't pass up this one or true lunar. Would have really lost out otherwise.
Hell man I never thought id get so emotionally wound up in anime such as i did only in 2 others that really affected me one affected me throughout the whole anime Samurai X: Trust and Betrayal and one really gave me a punch at end when the main character Pacifica Cassull got killed in Scrapped Princess :(
thats a possible spoiler so dont look at it unless you really want to i dont wanna ruin anything for yall so i was just saying and when i meant full metal panic do realize i meant in this situation Fumoffu just so you know i love regular full metal panic but this new full metal panic god especially the recent one i was so happy to see sosuke say to chidori your beautiful something most fans were waiting for it to happen :')
Tommy i said the same thing but so many people have dl and talked about it. So i decided to give it a try, and i actually really like kimi ga. It's not your typical drama love story anime like it seems to be at first. It deals with some heavy tones and makes you feel for the characters whether you feel they are wrong or not.
...........Geez listen to me, never thought in a million years would i talk about an anime like this. HEHE oh well glad i didn't pass up this one or true lunar. Would have really lost out otherwise.
That being said I might have to try it out. Man I'm going to get so ripped on for watching this show. :heh:
mirichan
2003-11-14, 20:31
Ceux qui craignent le coeur d'obscurité écarter
"Mirielle Bouquet"
I'm curious... where on earth did you get the quote from Noir?
Because, that is NOT French... that's frenglish if you want because honestly? it makes no sense whatsoever...
Now if you knew what it's supposed to say in English, I could translate in French but believe me, that quote is useless... probably as bad as the French sheet that shown on screen for 5 seconds in episode 5, after Clair attacked Arcuied [not sure of spelling].
P.-S. Oh yeah, right now the quote says:
Those who are afraid of the heart of darkness move
[bwahaha... btw, it makes kinda sense in English... maybe it's just whoever did that quote did not know French grammar and verbs tense^_^]
Just finished watching ep 6. Nothing but an filler episode, nothing much happens except shiki and Arcueid killing some high school vamps. I wonder why Ceil wants shiki to stop seeing Arcueid, maybe she doesnt want to get him involved. Why doesnt she just tell him why he cant see her it doesnt make sense hes already involved in the whole mess.
Melchiorus
2003-11-15, 12:11
I'm curious... where on earth did you get the quote from Noir?
Because, that is NOT French... that's frenglish if you want because honestly? it makes no sense whatsoever...
Now if you knew what it's supposed to say in English, I could translate in French but believe me, that quote is useless... probably as bad as the French sheet that shown on screen for 5 seconds in episode 5, after Clair attacked Arcuied [not sure of spelling].
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=10988#post10988
It seems that he doesn't see my post
From episode 6:
Just finished watching ep 6. Nothing but an filler episode, nothing much happens except shiki and Arcueid killing some high school vamps. I wonder why Ceil wants shiki to stop seeing Arcueid, maybe she doesnt want to get him involved. Why doesnt she just tell him why he cant see her it doesnt make sense hes already involved in the whole mess.
My opinion from episode 6:
Not really too much of a filler. This episode also kinda showed that Arc is not just selfishly using Tohno. She works as a model and then spends the money for various medicine for him. Tohno was worried about the entire situation because Ciel told him in episode 5 that she was going to just selfishly "lead him to hell." But this episode hints that it probably wont be true. Plus he has to kill his friend (even though its no longer his friend). That makes for quite a deep subject. Anyway, this is still my favorite series this season ;)
IMSabbel
2003-11-16, 07:27
>> Anyway, this is still my favorite series this season ;)
Yeah, its one of the very rare series i dont want to end. Even with Last Excile and Scrapped Princess i just wanted to know how the story ends after a few episodes, but this show is different...
From episode 6:
My opinion from episode 6:
Not really too much of a filler. This episode also kinda showed that Arc is not just selfishly using Tohno. She works as a model and then spends the money for various medicine for him. Tohno was worried about the entire situation because Ciel told him in episode 5 that she was going to just selfishly "lead him to hell." But this episode hints that it probably wont be true. Plus he has to kill his friend (even though its no longer his friend). That makes for quite a deep subject. Anyway, this is still my favorite series this season ;)
I meant why doesnt Ceil just tell Shiki who she really is, that would make sense wouldnt it since hes already involved with that woman.
lamort_noir
2003-11-16, 21:54
I'm curious... where on earth did you get the quote from Noir?
Because, that is NOT French... that's frenglish if you want because honestly? it makes no sense whatsoever...
Now if you knew what it's supposed to say in English, I could translate in French but believe me, that quote is useless... probably as bad as the French sheet that shown on screen for 5 seconds in episode 5, after Clair attacked Arcuied [not sure of spelling].
P.-S. Oh yeah, right now the quote says:
Those who are afraid of the heart of darkness move
[bwahaha... btw, it makes kinda sense in English... maybe it's just whoever did that quote did not know French grammar and verbs tense^_^]
lol its funny you say that i was having problems with getting the quote translated into french properly it kept coming up wierd i believe mirelle's quote is
Those who fear the heart of darkness stand aside! (thats off the top of my head)
and Kirika says
I kill so easily... Why cant I feel sorrow for what I have done?
(again thats off top of my head if you wanna get those translated be my guest and i have to give you an Origato lol)
Sayanora
Kenji Ikari
2003-11-16, 23:16
I'm really loving this show. It's great to see that they can make a show out of an H-game that's very little or no H. Heh, it sort of seems like what they would get if they mixed Love Hina with Hellsing.
I'm really loving this show. It's great to see that they can make a show out of an H-game that's very little or no H. Heh, it sort of seems like what they would get if they mixed Love Hina with Hellsing.
Yup most H games have really good stories without the Hentai elements of course.
Yup most H games have really good stories without the Hentai elements of course.
And on that thought, TOEI!!! Please make an AIR anime -_-;;
/me runs
PS: Played through 1/3 of AIR with my rudimental Japanese knowledge, got about 10% of what was going on and it was still just beautiful ;_;
I meant why doesnt Ceil just tell Shiki who she really is, that would make sense wouldnt it since hes already involved with that woman.
Maybe it is just me, and my affection to romance genre, but it is possible that Ciel has feelings for Shiki, after all she is trying to act like a normal girl in school and so she doesn't want to talk about it with Shiki.
Maybe it is just me, and my affection to romance genre, but it is possible that Ciel has feelings for Shiki, after all she is trying to act like a normal girl in school and so she doesn't want to talk about it with Shiki.
Maybe
I find it very strange that Ceil god who knows how old she is, is going to Shiki's school of all places. A coincidence maybe but highly unlikely. I think she might be there to keep an eye on him or protect him. She seems to have some wicked power, shes even been killed could she also be an vampire ugh I forgot what they call them in the show, I know that they are two kinds of vamps though.
It's going to be very interesting to see how this whole "love triangle" is going to play out between them. This show is very good.
One thing still confuses the hell out me though. Why the hell did Shiki kill Arc in the first place? Does he have outbursts of anger or something? Wouldn't that make him extremely dangerous?
Love this show and can't wait to see more :)
Xiandu
One thing still confuses the hell out me though. Why the hell did Shiki kill Arc in the first place? Does he have outbursts of anger or something? Wouldn't that make him extremely dangerous?
Thats something I would like to know also. I also hope we get to see the girl with the red hair soon, the one who gave shiki his glasses when he was a kid. I wonder what part she plays into the story.
Melchiorus
2003-11-17, 06:34
...
(again thats off top of my head if you wanna get those translated be my guest and i have to give you an Origato lol)
I will give the link a second time ...
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=10988#post10988
Tensai_kamen
2003-11-17, 14:48
Originally Posted by Xiandu
It's going to be very interesting to see how this whole "love triangle" is going to play out between them. This show is very good.
One thing still confuses the hell out me though. Why the hell did Shiki kill Arc in the first place? Does he have outbursts of anger or something? Wouldn't that make him extremely dangerous?
Love this show and can't wait to see more
As to why Shiki kill Arc, I think u can read about it here (http://www.geocities.com/max3075/characters.htm)( Warning: Spoiler alert). I'm quite surprise that the anime somehow neglected this fact recently.
About the love triangle, I think u shouldn't leave Satsuki ( Shiki classmate ) behind. Heck I wouldn't be surprise if Akiha decided to join the fray since incenst is quite the in thing right now in the wonderful world of anime ( think OT & Da Capo ).
Just my €0.02.
Anlushac11
2003-11-17, 16:00
I had an idea...
What if the boy really did die in the accident and another soul inhabited the body?
What if the guy Arcueid and Shiki are looking for is Shiki himself except that he has no memory of who he is? The mansion, his sisters, the 2 girls and Ciel are all in the same organization and their job is to watch over Shiki to see if he regains his memories. If he does they kill him. Hence the 9pm curfew.
And it would create a plot twist if Arcueid falls in love with him and has to kill him. And what if he had an emotional flash upon seeing Arcueid, an enemy, and attacked her?
any thoughts?
Aquillion
2003-11-17, 20:46
Maybe
I find it very strange that Ceil god who knows how old she is, is going to Shiki's school of all places. A coincidence maybe but highly unlikely. I think she might be there to keep an eye on him or protect him. She seems to have some wicked power, shes even been killed could she also be an vampire ugh I forgot what they call them in the show, I know that they are two kinds of vamps though.She was hunting Shiki in the first episode, remember? That was probably her original reason for inserting herself into that school. Now it lets her keep an eye on Arc through Shiki, keep a tab on various rumors, and watch for students like the ones we saw in episode 7. Also remember that she may not have been going to there for as long as it seems -- Shiki didn't remember her at all when he saw her in the first episode.
(And besides all that, and regardless of her actual age, she does look like a young girl, someone who ought to be in school. Arc obviously doesn't care about appearances, but Ciel might want to blend in better.)
As to why Shiki kill Arc, I think u can read about it here (http://www.geocities.com/max3075/characters.htm)( Warning: Spoiler alert). I'm quite surprise that the anime somehow neglected this fact recently.
About the love triangle, I think u shouldn't leave Satsuki ( Shiki classmate ) behind. Heck I wouldn't be surprise if Akiha decided to join the fray since incenst is quite the in thing right now in the wonderful world of anime ( think OT & Da Capo ).
Just my €0.02.
I couldnt resist damn those spoilers. I check it out and it seems to be a brief summary of the game, and what roles each character plays in the story. I wonder if the anime will follow the games storyline. It look very interesting to see it play out.
Hao Asakura
2003-11-18, 01:11
Nooooooooo.....Not another pointless episode (ep 6).
They better start moving the pace of the story since only 7 eps left. I was hoping and expecting TOO much of this series and now end up in disappointment :(
True, not much developement in episode 6...
I wonder why Arc is so interested in human's way of life. Or maybe its just Shiki that's she interested in. Hmm...
And Keitarou20, thanks for pointing out what's in the link... a game summary probably hold lots of info in it, I am not going to spoil myself again. :p
I thank you too. Would have hated to open that link and find out too much info.
Just ruins things for yourself when that happens.
I thank you too. Would have hated to open that link and find out too much info.
Just ruins things for yourself when that happens.
np guys, even though I just spoiled myself
NenMaster
2003-11-19, 20:18
hate it when i spoil something :/ o well, cant be helped hehe
Man i am soooooo pissed! I went to my anime folder and for damn reason my shingetsutan folder is gone! All 6 eps just disappeared and i have no reason why. I know for damn sure i didn't delete them. Last night my main harddrive got disconnected when i moved my computer while it was off. Does anyone know if maybe this had something to do with it because the harddrive should have not become disconnected since i had to go to set-up and have it reconnected. Nothing was loose in the wiring because as soon as i searched for it, it showed and then my computer was fine. Grr i have to download all 6 eps again. Make me put my berserk scanlations on hold. DAMMIT!!
I had to delete my AE-Akeep ones, now im switching over to anbu :)
Oh yeah got lots of new tsukihime pics i plundered from the japanese
Man i am soooooo pissed! I went to my anime folder and for damn reason my shingetsutan folder is gone! All 6 eps just disappeared and i have no reason why. I know for damn sure i didn't delete them. Last night my main harddrive got disconnected when i moved my computer while it was off. Does anyone know if maybe this had something to do with it because the harddrive should have not become disconnected since i had to go to set-up and have it reconnected. Nothing was loose in the wiring because as soon as i searched for it, it showed and then my computer was fine. Grr i have to download all 6 eps again. Make me put my berserk scanlations on hold. DAMMIT!!
That must suck, I don't see how by disconnecting your hard drive can delete a particular folder. Have you tried using the search files and folder funtion in windows. Its possible it might've been either deleted or moved. Who else uses your computer?
Oteck: nice avatar & sig, Ciel roxs
My roommates have access but they never do anything with my files. Plus neither of them watch this particular show. And even weirder is that the harddrive that got disconnected did even have my anime folder on it. My larger harddrive does. When i did a search it showed up in my recent documents but the link was a dead end. i just don't see how it got erased. So damn fustrating. Oh well 50% done with the redownload of ABNU's 1-5 batch. Another 1 1/2 hours to go til it is finished then on to ep6
you could have tried some recovery tool :\
Mitchell
2003-11-20, 13:35
How do you know it's only twelve episodes? You've read the manga or something?
Animenfo provide such information... go there and take a look. ;)
How do you know it's only twelve episodes? You've read the manga or something?
Plus the official website said so and listed DVD release schedules AND said what extras came with it. I trust the official website :)
Go-lytely
2003-11-22, 02:47
I love this show now. After the first ep I wasnt too impressed but the story and developing relationships has me hooked. Arcueid is my favorite character and I like how she was dark and serious in the beginning, but then starts acting like a flirty schoolgirl in the later eps.
btw, I really liked episode 6 and it wasnt pointless. We got a better sense of a developing romantic relationship between Arcueid and Shiki. I also sense a tragic ending developing as well.
7thMethuselah
2003-11-22, 03:34
True, not much developement in episode 6...
I agree, not much story development but we do get some insights on Arc's personality however, she seems rather lonely to me (clearly seen when she mentioned she's just been "staying alive" the last 800 years).
I really wonder if anything is gonna happen between the two of them :heh:
so my wish for next epi is more romance and more story :)
GATX207_Blitz
2003-11-22, 04:12
there was development in episode 6 shiki got closer with his sister and it finally began to feel like home to him. arcueid slyly got the location of shiki's house. you were given a name kugamine. you also realize what shiki may have to do if he keeps doing what he does because up until now he only had killed total strangers that he could care less about, but now taht it has begun to come closer to him how will he continue his killing if it were to become some1 very close to him like his sister or the other two classmates (forgot their names) not ciel. shiki also learned more about arcueid's past. and of course arcueid asked shiki out on a date. And because the way arcueid learned of the location of the house it makes you think about if everything she is doing an act. it may seem like that she cares, but what will happen when they finish getting rid of lore.
o and I think, from what I know, that either shiki will get his blood sucked from arcueid and become a vampire or that he will have to kill arcueid, but that is just an opinion.
Anlushac11
2003-11-22, 04:48
In ep1 or 2 didnt Arcueid met Shiki at the gate to the mansion? so she already knew where he lived.
I took her comment in ep 07 to mean she has memories of that house, possibly before Shiki's family lived there (she is 800 years old, the house isnt even that old.)
Aquillion
2003-11-22, 08:57
There was also a lot of foreshadowing in episode 6, really.
Go-lytely
2003-11-22, 18:32
Ep 7 had some tenchi-style fighting with the girls fighting over Shiki which made for some amusing moments. It wasnt something I expected considering the mood of the previous episodes. Now I wonder who is going to end up with Shiki in the end.
Yeah, episode 7 was a filler, not much happened, but it has a couple of funny moments (OMG, fanservice in Tsukihime?) and dialogue between characters was IMO interesting, especially between Ciel and Arcueid.
Filler episode, except there was a very important revelation.
And I didn't see it coming, maybe I should have quessed it.
As Ciel said, there is a possibility that Akiha is not human either. Heh, I can see Shiki's reaction: "Is anyone that I know a human!?"
Scary thougth: It was Akiha who sucked blood from that girl... *shrudders*
Shenlong
2003-11-22, 21:42
*groans*
When did tsukahime become an episode of tenchi.. But there were a few interesting tidbits near the end :D
The previous two posters pretty much had it ... 07 was basically filler, but it had a bit of content too. Amusing overall, but I want to see the rest of the plot ... so no more fillers please, if you ask me :D
Not really a spoiler, merely increased my appetite, if you allow a bad pun...I think some of the links posted here might very well provide an explanation, but I don´t want to spoil myself. Looks pretty convincing ...
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~aquila-/curious.jpg
Even though ep 7 was a massive filler I enjoyed the reactions of everyone together. Poor poor Shiki those girls are really stressing him out, he might just freak out and chop up someone to 50 pieces like he did to Arc. Ep8 preview looks interesting, Shiki is asking for an explanation from his sister about his family.
Kamui4356
2003-11-23, 00:15
Ep 7 wasn't really filler. I know it seemed like it, but it did advance the plot. Now everyone knows each other and the characters were developed a bit more. Filler by defination is just random crap used to take up time.
And I didn't see it coming, maybe I should have guessed it.
As Ciel said, there is a possibility that Akiha is not human either. Heh, I can see Shiki's reaction: "Is anyone that I know a human!?"
Scary thought: It was Akiha who sucked blood from that girl... *shrudders*
I was thinking the same thing...
FlyByNite
2003-11-23, 02:27
I think Ep 7 appeared as filler and had some filler situations, but it was key to adding to the plot of the show, especially in regards to Shiki's sister Akiha.
It's weird, but since this show started I got an almost romantic/jealousy vibe from Shiki's sister towards him. Maybe it's because she's not actually his sister. I forget who, maybe it was Ciel? on the train who said they don't even look alike and are quite different, then she says she's not even human. Maybe Shiki was adopted into this family because they knew of his abilities or potential.
Yeah, episode 7 was a filler, not much happened, but it has a couple of funny moments (OMG, fanservice in Tsukihime?) and dialogue between characters was IMO interesting, especially between Ciel and Arcueid.
Filler episode, except there was a very important revelation.
And I didn't see it coming, maybe I should have quessed it.
As Ciel said, there is a possibility that Akiha is not human either. Heh, I can see Shiki's reaction: "Is anyone that I know a human!?"
Scary thougth: It was Akiha who sucked blood from that girl... *shrudders*
Lets see, there are 5 characters who went to the park. We can safely ruled out Shiki's friend Arihiko whose only fault is that he knew Shiki. Though Arcuid is a vampire, she isn't into drinking blood. Ciel isn't totally human as well, though blood isn't her taste as well. Akiha's manner is masking something else, and Ciel's pronouncement of her inhumanity doesn't lead to blood.
We can also assumed that Shiki is NOT a blood drinker. Talented he is, but not a vampire. This lead to one final candidate: Satsuki, who is supposed to be at the hotel with her parents when Nero attacked. Due to sudden illness, she didn't go, and thus survived...
This lead to one final candidate: Satsuki, who is supposed to be at the hotel with her parents when Nero attacked. Due to sudden illness, she didn't go, and thus survived...
I also think Satsuki is a vampire she was turned into one at the hotel I think its quite possible she is the culprit at the amusement park. Couldn't be Nero because I think he was killed before Satsuki and her parents went to the hotel or am I wrong
Kamui4356
2003-11-23, 03:45
Lets see, there are 5 characters who went to the park. We can safely ruled out Shiki's friend Arihiko whose only fault is that he knew Shiki. Though Arcuid is a vampire, she isn't into drinking blood. Ciel isn't totally human as well, though blood isn't her taste as well. Akiha's manner is masking something else, and Ciel's pronouncement of her inhumanity doesn't lead to blood.
We can also assumed that Shiki is NOT a blood drinker. Talented he is, but not a vampire. This lead to one final candidate: Satsuki, who is supposed to be at the hotel with her parents when Nero attacked. Due to sudden illness, she didn't go, and thus survived...
She was with Arc in the hot spring, so she wasn't alone. Arc would have noticed if she had been turned. Plus I don't think she'd be able to be out in the day, didn't Arc say humans that became vampires were like sterotypical vampires? (could be wrong.......I really should rewatch it)
The only characters who were alone after the ferris wheel were Ciel and Akiha. Therefore, if it was one of Shiki's friends if had to be one of those two. Ciel is presumably a vampire hunter, so it's unlikely to be her. That leaves one suspect.
Of course it could be a coincidence that another vampire was there at the same time.
She was with Arc in the hot spring, so she wasn't alone. Arc would have noticed if she had been turned. Plus I don't think she'd be able to be out in the day, didn't Arc say humans that became vampires were like sterotypical vampires? (could be wrong.......I really should rewatch it)
The only characters who were alone after the ferris wheel were Ciel and Akiha. Therefore, if it was one of Shiki's friends if had to be one of those two. Ciel is presumably a vampire hunter, so it's unlikely to be her. That leaves one suspect.
Of course it could be a coincidence that another vampire was there at the same time.
Roa (the real Tohno Shiki).
Roa (the real Tohno Shiki).
To add to your spoiler
maybe a massive spoiler:
the real Shiki is in Akihas body I think and he happens to have Roa incarnated in him, the other shiki was really adopted. Dont know if this is correct got this info from the game. Satsuki apparently gets turned into a vamp and Shiki is forced to kill her in order to save her.
Hmm, just watched ep 7- wasnt impressed. I liked 6, but 7 seems to dismiss what 6 worked towards. A slow episode, but on the positive side, now they really have to move their butts to finish the story.
I think 7 offered some of the best storyline as far as character development. Thoughts and intentions are partially revealed, and easily the most intresting episode aside from the first one.
Along with the first, this one is the best so far imho.
It's was hard to keep intrested for a while, but this episode really makes me want to see more....
As for filler... ehhh It could have been if this episode was stuck in some other anime... but honestly, the other episodes of this really only advanced the plot 1 inch and then stretched it across 20 minutes... I think this one really had a lot of plot in it...... it wasn't a filler to me.
Anyway, anyone know where I can find the game in english? I'm really intrested.
Anyway, anyone know where I can find the game in english? I'm really intrested.
I asked the same question before, sadly their isn't a copy of this game translated in english only Japanese.
lamort_noir
2003-11-23, 12:18
I had to delete my AE-Akeep ones, now im switching over to anbu :)
Oh yeah got lots of new tsukihime pics i plundered from the japanese
lol where did you get the pics from? HMMMMMMMMMMMMM!?
downloadanime.org?
lol where did you get the pics from? HMMMMMMMMMMMMM!?
downloadanime.org?
Um... Tsukihime pics are ALL over the net, considering how popular the game was in Japan. It doesn't take much time to find them.
Aquillion
2003-11-23, 20:54
Poor poor Shiki those girls are really stressing him out, he might just freak out and chop up someone to 50 pieces like he did to Arc.17 pieces. Arc was very specific about that.
17 pieces. Arc was very specific about that.
Sorry about that I tend to forget those kind of specific details :bash:
Saru-kun
2003-11-23, 21:15
To add to your spoiler
maybe a massive spoiler:
the real Shiki is in Akihas body I think and he happens to have Roa incarnated in him, the other shiki was really adopted. Dont know if this is correct got this info from the game. Satsuki apparently gets turned into a vamp and Shiki is forced to kill her in order to save her.
*sigh* well it's still hard to say with this blendid story line and slightly different events, the original Tsukihime game had 5 routes that you can take that lead to different things and multiple endings.
But I think that Satsuki is a vampire, who knows what kind but I think Roa was the culprit at the amusement park and not Sacchin (Satsuki) but she may already be a vampire but she was prolly bitten by Roa himself.We all know it aint Ciel (murfurdur!) and it couldnt have been Akiha because the Tohno's are half Demons and they dont drink blood, I wonder if the ep 7 preview was talking about Crimson Akiha when he said "binding Red hair"? And there were two Shiki's, the original was a vessel for Roa.
I thought it was great in ep 7 when they were talking about going to the Onsen and Arc told her "i guess that rules you out", If Ciel got naked, it would reveal some things like her Church markings and the 7th scripture on her arm. *SIGH* my poor Sacchin will die ANYWAY!!!! there is just no hapiness in it for her.....so sad for me. nyu....OH WELL, Ciel is still great even without the curry!!
I wonder how they plan to explain Kohaku's story? in the original story she is sexually molested by Makihisa for energy and to keep him from dying or going berserk. But being that its a TV show,....who knows!
I know that alot of people were mad at the director for changing so many things. Purists complained that Ciel wasnt eating curry in the series, being that her nickname is Ms. Curry then she should be eating curry. I didnt think it was that important, they also thought that they should have had teacher Ciel and Kitty ARC doing the next ep previews, now that would have been cute! Also alot of people think it sucks that Shiki has this *woe is me* crap goin' on too, in Tsukihime, the original writer Kinoko Nasu made Shiki a slightly more cheerful and optomistic character.
My dream is that after they finish with Shingetsutan, that they try and make another 12 ep series tapping into either the story of Melty Blood or Tsukihime's sequel Kagetsu Tohya (They cant make both because each of those stories run parallel with eachother and both take place exactly a year later in summer, so they cannot co-exist). I guess it all depends on the popularity of the first series, which makes me mad at the purists for not giving it a chance!!! :mad: But I can understand it none the less........becuase curry is very important :p
Kuroi_Washi
2003-11-23, 23:12
Just saw ep 7, it was very nice change of pace, from the darker eps before this one, it was pretty funny to see how Shiki life is now controled by everyone else but him... :p and you can see a faster pace in the plot, now that Yumizuka is going to try tell shiki her true feellings, and the thing that ciel told Akiha at the end of the ep.
BTW, i would love to put Akiha, Ciel and Arc in a deathmatch ring :bash:
SleeplessHeart
2003-11-27, 02:01
WARNING! A Devastating spoiler here.
This will disclose the major plot of Tsukihime.
Reading this spoiler will take the interesting parts out of this anime.
You have been warned....
http://www.geocities.com/max3075/characters.htm
Melchiorus
2003-11-27, 06:27
WARNING! A Devastating spoiler here.
This will disclose the major plot of Tsukihime.
Reading this spoiler will take the interesting parts out of this anime.
You have been warned....
http://www.geocities.com/max3075/characters.htm
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=16672#post16672
:dots:
i just found out i watch 7 and never download 6 till i was going to burn them to my cd.. geez .. :topicoff:
I know that alot of people were mad at the director for changing so many things. Purists complained that Ciel wasnt eating curry in the series, being that her nickname is Ms. Curry then she should be eating curry. I didnt think it was that important, they also thought that they should have had teacher Ciel and Kitty ARC doing the next ep previews, now that would have been cute! Also alot of people think it sucks that Shiki has this *woe is me* crap goin' on too, in Tsukihime, the original writer Kinoko Nasu made Shiki a slightly more cheerful and optomistic character.
My dream is that after they finish with Shingetsutan, that they try and make another 12 ep series tapping into either the story of Melty Blood or Tsukihime's sequel Kagetsu Tohya (They cant make both because each of those stories run parallel with eachother and both take place exactly a year later in summer, so they cannot co-exist). I guess it all depends on the popularity of the first series, which makes me mad at the purists for not giving it a chance!!! :mad: But I can understand it none the less........becuase curry is very important :p
Well, I was prepared to anticipate some difference...being directed from the same person who did a very different version of GunParade March. So while every other Japanese otaku was yapping about how Ciel wasn't eating curry, I was wondering how they are going to fit all five storyline into one...especially how the main is going towards the "frontal moon" episodes than the "back moon" stories of Akiha, Hisui, and Kohaku. Besides - Kohaku-san's ending is the key that answers everything ^^;
But seeing episode 8, I think they did a very good job in changing the story somewhat - but not too drastic as to alter the overall story.
Episode 8:
For instance, you have the scene where Akiha is sucking Kohaku's blood from her breast, Akiha's hair turning red, while Shiki is worried about Akiha being the vampire. Kinda close to Akiha's route, except the real Tohno Shiki (Roa) appears toward the end, with the unusual combination of Ciel and Akiha appearing at the same time for Shiki (Nanaya's) aid...
By watching Ep. 9 trailer, it seems that episode will finally be the one that will answer Shiki (Nanaya's) past...I guess it all works out.
I thought this was a good episode. It was nice to see all the major characters there and their reaction to one another. Boy oh boy does Shiki's sister have some skeleton's in her closet. May not have been very fast paced or action packed like some eps, but I think that this episode set up some nice forshadowing for future events to take place. Can't wait to see more wwooooo!
LeiMagusIII
2003-11-29, 23:12
Ep 8, They introduced Roa!! looks like things are gonna get nasty. :D
Of course, everything I know about him is from reading spoilers.
I'm still distrubed by the way the Nanaya family keeps their abilities strong.
ep8 was a good episode
Was Roa the guy Ciel apparently killed when he brust into flames. Also that guy seems to have the same power as Shiki.
Where did you guys get ep8 from?
Where did you guys get ep8 from?
uh here http://www.gotwoot.net/ it should be on animesukis main page
Woah, damn shingetsutan Tsukihime is getting rEALLY good.... ep 8 opened a LOT of doors.... damn... have to wait another week for ep 9
Commissar
2003-11-30, 01:52
Spoiler question so don't read it unless you've played the game or don't care about spoilers:
Considering the fact that the Shiki that we are familiar with is not really Akiha's brother but is from the Nanaya family, why did the Tohno family adopt him? Considering the Tohno were responsible for massacring all the Nanaya except for Shiki, what was the point of sparing his life and actually adopting him into the family? Is Shiki supposed to be a trump card against the Tohno familiy curse? If anyone knows, I would appreciate an explanation. Thanks.
FlyByNite
2003-11-30, 05:13
Just saw Episode 8
Wow, that was a good episode. We got more backstory and had some action in the same episode. We don't really find out what Akiha is. We knew she wasn't human in the last episode. But I don't think she's a vampire or she wouldn't age would she? Or is the family curse then gradually become more vampiric as they get older so that's why they die young? :shrug:
Looks like Shiki's "accident" was ROA cutting him up in the past? Since he talked about the truth behind his scar and then it began to bleed again. Ciel's trident/pitchforky weapon is cool, but why would she leave it behind anyway?
Some answers given, but many more questions arise. Loving the series though.
Thelastguardian
2003-11-30, 05:45
is it just me or was Shiki fought Roa with a cutter and can actually fight back? those few slashes and block are really good.
esp 8 is the best esp. up to now in ST. Finally they are starting to answer some of the more serious questions. This better be good i held off the desire of playing my copy of this game just for the sake of not spoiling the anime version ^_^ .
FlyByNite
2003-11-30, 05:56
is it just me or was Shiki fought Roa with a cutter and can actually fight back? those few slashes and block are really good.
No it wasn't just you Shiki was blocking Roa with his switchblade, you could hear the clang of metal on metal. Plus Shiki also jumped back and dodged. I thought the only ability he had was to cut, but it looks like he's got some fighting skillz.
144M_HYPERION
2003-11-30, 06:15
Appearance can be deceiving :D
Shiki is a good example for this.
I am just wondering how come Shiki past wound/scar is bleeding again in this eqisode??? Is it because the real Tohno Shiki(Roa) wounded him, or is there some sort of curse/magical seal behind his wound? :confused:
Hi guys,
Does anyone know where i can download The Sacred Moon Opening OST?
I tried searching for it, but i can't find it .. i tried kazaa and torrents.
Couldn't find it at all.
EvoSpace
2003-11-30, 14:36
Hi guys,
Does anyone know where i can download The Sacred Moon Opening OST?
I tried searching for it, but i can't find it .. i tried kazaa and torrents.
Couldn't find it at all.
It's because the CD isn't out yet.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=PICA-1293
I know I'm going to sound dumb, but please support the show by at least buying the CD ^^:
It's because the CD isn't out yet.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=PICA-1293
I know I'm going to sound dumb, but please support the show by at least buying the CD ^^:
That's right. I know DVDs are expensive but this is a CD, it's like $30.
Commissar
2003-11-30, 21:17
That's right. I know DVDs are expensive but this is a CD, it's like $30.
Welcome to the world of Japanese merchandise at Japanese prices. It's a world where a single CD is at least $30 and DVDs around $50. The motto of Japanese retail: No customer too rich, no price too high.
I live in Malaysia, They don't sell Anime OST in the place where i am staying.
It's not that i do not want to support by buying CDs, How am i suppose to buy the CDs if the they do not import in the Anime OST CDs.
The Sacred Moon opening song of Tsukihime sounds realli nice. But i want to listen to it's full version.
Episode 8 was good! Tsukihime is my favorite series at this moment (Kiminozo close second).
That blood sucking scene was like a slap in the face, nice and caring Akiha doing something like that... really unexpected, I love this series!
So that guy in the end was Roa, plot really moved forward in this episode. Maybe that girl was a victim of Akiha after all (since she needs blood) or then it was Roa.
Just a guess, but next episodes will not be easy for Akiha. Poor girl.
Have I missed something, or why don´t I understand who the hell that other guy with a knife is? Episode 8 was damn nice, as I´d expect from Tsukihime, moved the plot forward too, I think, but I found some parts of it rather confusing ... maybe I should watch the earlier ones again this weekend or something.
GATX207_Blitz
2003-12-02, 03:58
Yes I finally saw episode 8 and it definitely pushed the story forward.
Man freaky stuff.
Now I got like a billion questions... well actually probably only 7...I don't want to add spoiler tags so I'm just going to beat around the bush a little.
Akiha...hmmm well it was somewhat expected yet I was quite surprised at what some others do in the house. finally the thing that bothers me a lot is what happened at the end.....
The preview wasn't really of help of what might happen, but the title is interesting.
NenMaster
2003-12-02, 11:52
im also loving this series, its well done, leaving loads of questions when ure finished. but how can shiki not see where that spear/sword come from.
im also loving this series, its well done, leaving loads of questions when ure finished. but how can shiki not see where that spear/sword come from.
I think the person with most questions at this time is Shiki himself lol. Everyone (Ciel, Akiha, etc) has kept secrets from him, and he's starting to discover them now.
What do you mean with him not seeing where the spear came from?
Kuroi_Washi
2003-12-02, 13:28
Nen, i think the problem, that the human campfire distracted him a few from watching were did that spear came from, that and his wound in the chest that bring up some memories of his past... plus i think not even akiha saw where the spear came from.
NenMaster
2003-12-02, 20:33
true but it was right in front of him, and the guy said, "you bitch" :) neway very good series
I really don't get it...
Why is Shiki bleeding in the chest? He seems to have parried all of the Roa's advances with his own knife... isn't it?
I thought the broken violin string and Akiha running into the woods signifies the return of Roa or something... but the part where her hair start glowing pink... what does that mean? MAN ... getting more and more interesting. :D
I really don't get it...
Why is Shiki bleeding in the chest? He seems to have parried all of the Roa's advances with his own knife... isn't it?
I thought the broken violin string and Akiha running into the woods signifies the return of Roa or something... but the part where her hair start glowing pink... what does that mean? MAN ... getting more and more interesting. :D
hmmm...maybe it's the old wound getting reopened from the near death experience they always say Shiki is still suffering the side effects of or something? Could be the kid that got stabbed all along was Shiki or something and that other kid was...that other kid...and akiha=not human blah blah what am i talking about...i dunno...
getting interesting cos of the ending of the episode or cos of the erm...scene in between? XD It's both for me huhuhu...
What really happened in that incident years ago is not really clear except for people who have played the game. :p
I wonder which Shiki got stabbed back then... Tohno or Nanaya...
I thought it should be Tohno. If not, how could he have died and returned as Roa? Nanaya Shiki could just have fainted from all that action after his powers are awakened. Just guessing anyway... :p
Everyone seems to have very interesting ideas even though they haven't played the game....so...
Who/what is Tohno Akiha? - The Tohno family has demon blood in pass through their generations. Some members of the family can handle it (like Akiha), some people can't and die in a very unusual way (like some members of the family who mysteriously died as written in the family tree).
Then who is Tohno Shiki? - The "real" Tohno Shiki is the one who couldn't handle the Tohno family blood, and killed Nanaya Shiki (the child with the knife stabbed into his chest) as a child. The "real" Tohno Shiki was then put into banishment within the compunds of the Tohno household by his (and Akiha's) father, Tohno Makihisa. Nanaya Shiki, the child that was killed, miraculously revived. Tohno Makihisa, in need of a "replacement" for an heir (since the real Tohno Shiki had turned into a demon), then raised and brought up Nanaya Shiki as "Tohno Shiki." So, the main character of this series, "Tohno Shiki" is in fact, "Nanaya Shiki."
Then how did Nanaya survive? - With the help of Akiha. Akiha, saddened by the death of Nanaya, used her power to incorporate Nanaya's soul into her body, before his soul left for the eternal world. Nanaya was able to survive the death because of Akiha, and miraculously revive. HOWEVER, Akiha now has a very difficult responsibility - she is holding two souls (her own, and Nanaya's) in her one body. That is a strain for a human, and she is only capable of doing so because of her bloodline. In order to rejuvinate her power which she needs dearly to keep two souls in one body, she needs outside energy source. And the best energy source is human blood.
So is Akiha a vampire? - Technically, no. In the PLUS-DISC, Akiha and Arc get into an argument whether she is a vampire or not. Since a vampire has only two categories - a "shinso" (pure) and a "shito" (disciple), Akiha does not fall into neither category. Furthermore, like Arc said, "a vampire doesn't need human blood, but once they taste it, they get hooked on it like heroin and cocaine." Akiha needs human blood as an alternative source of energy for the need of keeping two souls in one body. Her actions are "vampire-like," but she is not a vampire.
What's up with Akiha's hair? - With the emergence of the real Tohno Shiki (and Roa inside him) and her feelings for Nanaya, are faltering her powers. Easily said, her power from her part-demon bloodline is becoming unstable. The point of the story becomes, when her power becomes awakened, will she able to contain it, or will she turn into a demon like her real brother?
LeiMagusIII
2003-12-03, 17:12
OK, the whole Tohno/Nanaya thing is a bit clearer now. But I thought the whole Akiha blood sucking thing was an edit made for the TV series because they can't exactly show the way Kohaku really transfers energy :naughty:
So Akiha really sucks blood like that in the actual storyline?
BTW: It should be noted I've read through a lot of spoilers without actually playing the game, so some points are still somewhat up in the air...
Everyone seems to have very interesting ideas even though they haven't played the game....so...I heard that the Nanaya family has some special powers of their own too... so did Nanaya Shiki's power awakened when he was brought back to life?
If so... why is it that both Shiki(s) have the same ability to see lines of death? Coincidence?
If Tohno Shiki is alive all this while, how did he become Roa's vessel? My guess, it could only happen if the vessel is dead or he gave out his body willingly. What gives? Interesting... I hope the coming episodes will try to answer all these questions.
Everyone seems to have very interesting ideas even though they haven't played the game....so...
Hey, knowing what will/should happen would make speculating rather pointless, wouldn´t it? Even if you are wrong in the end, trying to deduce future developement from what you have seen is fun :D
EDIT: I don´t know what I am trying to say. If you don´t understand, its my fault. :0
I heard that the Nanaya family has some special powers of their own too... so did Nanaya Shiki's power awakened when he was brought back to life?
If so... why is it that both Shiki(s) have the same ability to see lines of death? Coincidence?
If Tohno Shiki is alive all this while, how did he become Roa's vessel? My guess, it could only happen if the vessel is dead or he gave out his body willingly. What gives? Interesting... I hope the coming episodes will try to answer all these questions.
You're questions answered (from the game):
Yes, Nanaya's family too have special powers. Unlike the Tohno family which relied on demon blood, Nanaya's family line relied on strengthing human abilities beyond the realm of regular humans. Technically speaking, Nanaya's family is a family of extraordinary human strength, stemming from constant training from childhood to relying genetics from marrying with other strong families.
The secret of Nanaya's family is that they were assasins. Assasins to kill off people and families of "un-human origin." Much like the Church that Ciel comes from, Nanaya's family is like the Japanese version of that Church - to protect humanity from un-human threats. In a sense, Tohno family and Nanaya family were rivals. And, one day, the Tohno family clan led by Tohno Makihisa, led a surprise attack upon the Nanaya family clan. Nanaya's family was decimated...the only survivor was Nanaya Shiki. Tohno Makihisa, who found him as the only survivor, took him to be his adopted son (whether he felt sorry for him, or just amused that Nanaya Shiki happened to have the same name his own son, Tohno Shiki, whatever the case, Nanaya Shiki was brought to the Tohno family as an adopted son). Then, of course, the real Tohno Shiki turned into a demon, Tohno Makihisa banished him, and brought up his adopted son - Nanaya Shiki, as the heir to the Tohno family household.
Furthermore, it is said that Nanaya Shiki's ability to see "lines of death" comes after the ordeal in which he was killed by the real Tohno Shiki. Perhaps it was his awakening of the Nanaya family blood, caused by his sudden death and revival with the help of Tohno Akiha.
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Question about Roa:
All vampires believe that they are immortal. However, true "immortality" does not exist - it's bound by nature to be mortal. Even vampires, who may seem immortal, are bound to nature's rules and can be killed. Many vampires go through this contradicting problem. Roa, came to the conclusion that he can become "immortal" by constantly changing bodies.
To give out a major spoiler, Roa's former body before the real Tohno Shiki was a girl named Elesia. She was the daughter of a French bakery in a small town in France. There are two factors in which Roa uses to find a new body - A. A person with extraordinary power, and B. A person who is high in social status. Unfortunately, when Roa's body before Elesia was killed suddenly by Arc, he didn't have time to look for a person that met both criteria. He opted to reside in Elesia's body. Now, "reside" means that he must choose his new body before being born. Therefore, Elesia was born normally, raised as a typical daughter of a bakery, until the day came when Roa that resided in her awoke. Elesia (Roa) killed off every person in the village...until she was killed once again by Arc.
However, Roa was prepared this time. He had already chosen his next body - a male heir to a family with high social status, which also happened to have a very interesting bloodline....the real Tohno Shiki. The rest is the story...
Going back to Elesia. What Roa hadn't expected was that Elesia actually did have a special power...one that which arose after she was killed, and partly awoke due to Roa being inside her. When the Church arrived at the town, they found one survivor - Elesia. Apparently, she did not die. But how can that be so? She had to have died, or else Roa would still be inside her. The Church, sensing that she was the culprit, killed her immediately. To their amazement, she dies, and revives once again. No matter how many times they tried to kill her, she would die, but be alive once again. This torture lasted for about a month, until the Church decided that the vampire inside her has truly gone away and that she could be useful for the Church's purpose to fight against vampires. She was baptized and given the name..... Ciel. Her power involves "the power to fix nature's contradictions." Her death is "nature's contradictions" That meaning - "nature perceives her as dead, but she cannot die." Thus, "nature opts to fix that contradiction by making her alive once again." What happens is "nature reverses what caused her death to the point she was alive once again." So, even if Ciel decides to cut her own throat, the "nature's contradiction" takes place and the process of the slit throat is reversed to the condition of normality. Hence, she is alive once again.
But of course, no one can be "immortal." That's against nature. Can she be killed? Of course. That's why nature has Nanaya Shiki - a person that can kill anything - even if that person seems to be "immortal," he is the one that nature provided for the reason why "immortality" cannot exist.
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Now you also mentioned the real Tohno Shiki and Nanaya Shiki seem to see the same "death lines." In the anime, the part where Nanaya and Tohno's conscious become connected are not shown...in many ways, their consciousness are connected because - A. Nanaya Shiki's soul is inside Tohno Akiha, a person with Tohno family blood, and B. Tohno family blood has a strong resonance with a person of the same family (Hence Tohno Shiki is inadverdently conscious-connected with Nanaya Shiki through Tohno Akiha). Perhaps, Tohno Shiki can "see" death lines through Nanaya's sub-conscious-connected vision? Well, in the game, they also define what they each see - the real "Tohno Shiki" can see the "lifeline" that holds life together. Nanaya Shiki, on the other hand, sees "life itself." To put it a simpler way, the real Tohno Shiki sees the "gas tank that makes a car run." On the other hand, Nanaya Shiki sees "the engine of the car itself." "Gas" is crucial to the "life" of a car. But what good is "gas" if the "engine" - the "life" of the car itself, is dead? Apparently, they seem to be looking at the same "lines of death." However, Nanaya's vision is more direct at "ending a life itself"
Hey, knowing what will/should happen would make speculating rather pointless, wouldn´t it? Even if you are wrong in the end, trying to deduce future developement from what you have seen is fun :D
EDIT: I don´t know what I am trying to say. If you don´t understand, its my fault. :0
yes yes i agree guessing what will happen next is fun, its no fun if we all know what will already happen.
And for the ppl whos giving out all these spoilers from the game. please i beg you no more i cant hold myself back from not reading them. :eyespin:
I tried to resist too but failed miserably... just have to hypnotize myself to forget everything now... :heh:
Thanks for the writeup kj1980... :D
NenMaster
2003-12-04, 10:08
You're questions answered (from the game):
Yes, Nanaya's family too have special powers. Unlike the Tohno family which relied on demon blood, Nanaya's family line relied on strengthing human abilities beyond the realm of regular humans. Technically speaking, Nanaya's family is a family of extraordinary human strength, stemming from constant training from childhood to relying genetics from marrying with other strong families.
The secret of Nanaya's family is that they were assasins. Assasins to kill off people and families of "un-human origin." Much like the Church that Ciel comes from, Nanaya's family is like the Japanese version of that Church - to protect humanity from un-human threats. In a sense, Tohno family and Nanaya family were rivals. And, one day, the Tohno family clan led by Tohno Makihisa, led a surprise attack upon the Nanaya family clan. Nanaya's family was decimated...the only survivor was Nanaya Shiki. Tohno Makihisa, who found him as the only survivor, took him to be his adopted son (whether he felt sorry for him, or just amused that Nanaya Shiki happened to have the same name his own son, Tohno Shiki, whatever the case, Nanaya Shiki was brought to the Tohno family as an adopted son). Then, of course, the real Tohno Shiki turned into a demon, Tohno Makihisa banished him, and brought up his adopted son - Nanaya Shiki, as the heir to the Tohno family household.
Furthermore, it is said that Nanaya Shiki's ability to see "lines of death" comes after the ordeal in which he was killed by the real Tohno Shiki. Perhaps it was his awakening of the Nanaya family blood, caused by his sudden death and revival with the help of Tohno Akiha.
__________________________________________________ _
Question about Roa:
All vampires believe that they are immortal. However, true "immortality" does not exist - it's bound by nature to be mortal. Even vampires, who may seem immortal, are bound to nature's rules and can be killed. Many vampires go through this contradicting problem. Roa, came to the conclusion that he can become "immortal" by constantly changing bodies.
To give out a major spoiler, Roa's former body before the real Tohno Shiki was a girl named Elesia. She was the daughter of a French bakery in a small town in France. There are two factors in which Roa uses to find a new body - A. A person with extraordinary power, and B. A person who is high in social status. Unfortunately, when Roa's body before Elesia was killed suddenly by Arc, he didn't have time to look for a person that met both criteria. He opted to reside in Elesia's body. Now, "reside" means that he must choose his new body before being born. Therefore, Elesia was born normally, raised as a typical daughter of a bakery, until the day came when Roa that resided in her awoke. Elesia (Roa) killed off every person in the village...until she was killed once again by Arc.
However, Roa was prepared this time. He had already chosen his next body - a male heir to a family with high social status, which also happened to have a very interesting bloodline....the real Tohno Shiki. The rest is the story...
Going back to Elesia. What Roa hadn't expected was that Elesia actually did have a special power...one that which arose after she was killed, and partly awoke due to Roa being inside her. When the Church arrived at the town, they found one survivor - Elesia. Apparently, she did not die. But how can that be so? She had to have died, or else Roa would still be inside her. The Church, sensing that she was the culprit, killed her immediately. To their amazement, she dies, and revives once again. No matter how many times they tried to kill her, she would die, but be alive once again. This torture lasted for about a month, until the Church decided that the vampire inside her has truly gone away and that she could be useful for the Church's purpose to fight against vampires. She was baptized and given the name..... Ciel. Her power involves "the power to fix nature's contradictions." Her death is "nature's contradictions" That meaning - "nature perceives her as dead, but she cannot die." Thus, "nature opts to fix that contradiction by making her alive once again." What happens is "nature reverses what caused her death to the point she was alive once again." So, even if Ciel decides to cut her own throat, the "nature's contradiction" takes place and the process of the slit throat is reversed to the condition of normality. Hence, she is alive once again.
But of course, no one can be "immortal." That's against nature. Can she be killed? Of course. That's why nature has Nanaya Shiki - a person that can kill anything - even if that person seems to be "immortal," he is the one that nature provided for the reason why "immortality" cannot exist.
__________________________________________________ __
Now you also mentioned the real Tohno Shiki and Nanaya Shiki seem to see the same "death lines." In the anime, the part where Nanaya and Tohno's conscious become connected are not shown...in many ways, their consciousness are connected because - A. Nanaya Shiki's soul is inside Tohno Akiha, a person with Tohno family blood, and B. Tohno family blood has a strong resonance with a person of the same family (Hence Tohno Shiki is inadverdently conscious-connected with Nanaya Shiki through Tohno Akiha). Perhaps, Tohno Shiki can "see" death lines through Nanaya's sub-conscious-connected vision? Well, in the game, they also define what they each see - the real "Tohno Shiki" can see the "lifeline" that holds life together. Nanaya Shiki, on the other hand, sees "life itself." To put it a simpler way, the real Tohno Shiki sees the "gas tank that makes a car run." On the other hand, Nanaya Shiki sees "the engine of the car itself." "Gas" is crucial to the "life" of a car. But what good is "gas" if the "engine" - the "life" of the car itself, is dead? Apparently, they seem to be looking at the same "lines of death." However, Nanaya's vision is more direct at "ending a life itself"
thats it for me no more reading :) thx though got 1/2 way thru
Commissar
2003-12-04, 14:31
You're questions answered (from the game):
Yes, Nanaya's family too have special powers. Unlike the Tohno family which relied on demon blood, Nanaya's family line relied on strengthing human abilities beyond the realm of regular humans. Technically speaking, Nanaya's family is a family of extraordinary human strength, stemming from constant training from childhood to relying genetics from marrying with other strong families.
The secret of Nanaya's family is that they were assasins. Assasins to kill off people and families of "un-human origin." Much like the Church that Ciel comes from, Nanaya's family is like the Japanese version of that Church - to protect humanity from un-human threats. In a sense, Tohno family and Nanaya family were rivals. And, one day, the Tohno family clan led by Tohno Makihisa, led a surprise attack upon the Nanaya family clan. Nanaya's family was decimated...the only survivor was Nanaya Shiki. Tohno Makihisa, who found him as the only survivor, took him to be his adopted son (whether he felt sorry for him, or just amused that Nanaya Shiki happened to have the same name his own son, Tohno Shiki, whatever the case, Nanaya Shiki was brought to the Tohno family as an adopted son). Then, of course, the real Tohno Shiki turned into a demon, Tohno Makihisa banished him, and brought up his adopted son - Nanaya Shiki, as the heir to the Tohno family household.
Furthermore, it is said that Nanaya Shiki's ability to see "lines of death" comes after the ordeal in which he was killed by the real Tohno Shiki. Perhaps it was his awakening of the Nanaya family blood, caused by his sudden death and revival with the help of Tohno Akiha.
__________________________________________________ _
Question about Roa:
All vampires believe that they are immortal. However, true "immortality" does not exist - it's bound by nature to be mortal. Even vampires, who may seem immortal, are bound to nature's rules and can be killed. Many vampires go through this contradicting problem. Roa, came to the conclusion that he can become "immortal" by constantly changing bodies.
To give out a major spoiler, Roa's former body before the real Tohno Shiki was a girl named Elesia. She was the daughter of a French bakery in a small town in France. There are two factors in which Roa uses to find a new body - A. A person with extraordinary power, and B. A person who is high in social status. Unfortunately, when Roa's body before Elesia was killed suddenly by Arc, he didn't have time to look for a person that met both criteria. He opted to reside in Elesia's body. Now, "reside" means that he must choose his new body before being born. Therefore, Elesia was born normally, raised as a typical daughter of a bakery, until the day came when Roa that resided in her awoke. Elesia (Roa) killed off every person in the village...until she was killed once again by Arc.
However, Roa was prepared this time. He had already chosen his next body - a male heir to a family with high social status, which also happened to have a very interesting bloodline....the real Tohno Shiki. The rest is the story...
Going back to Elesia. What Roa hadn't expected was that Elesia actually did have a special power...one that which arose after she was killed, and partly awoke due to Roa being inside her. When the Church arrived at the town, they found one survivor - Elesia. Apparently, she did not die. But how can that be so? She had to have died, or else Roa would still be inside her. The Church, sensing that she was the culprit, killed her immediately. To their amazement, she dies, and revives once again. No matter how many times they tried to kill her, she would die, but be alive once again. This torture lasted for about a month, until the Church decided that the vampire inside her has truly gone away and that she could be useful for the Church's purpose to fight against vampires. She was baptized and given the name..... Ciel. Her power involves "the power to fix nature's contradictions." Her death is "nature's contradictions" That meaning - "nature perceives her as dead, but she cannot die." Thus, "nature opts to fix that contradiction by making her alive once again." What happens is "nature reverses what caused her death to the point she was alive once again." So, even if Ciel decides to cut her own throat, the "nature's contradiction" takes place and the process of the slit throat is reversed to the condition of normality. Hence, she is alive once again.
But of course, no one can be "immortal." That's against nature. Can she be killed? Of course. That's why nature has Nanaya Shiki - a person that can kill anything - even if that person seems to be "immortal," he is the one that nature provided for the reason why "immortality" cannot exist.
__________________________________________________ __
Now you also mentioned the real Tohno Shiki and Nanaya Shiki seem to see the same "death lines." In the anime, the part where Nanaya and Tohno's conscious become connected are not shown...in many ways, their consciousness are connected because - A. Nanaya Shiki's soul is inside Tohno Akiha, a person with Tohno family blood, and B. Tohno family blood has a strong resonance with a person of the same family (Hence Tohno Shiki is inadverdently conscious-connected with Nanaya Shiki through Tohno Akiha). Perhaps, Tohno Shiki can "see" death lines through Nanaya's sub-conscious-connected vision? Well, in the game, they also define what they each see - the real "Tohno Shiki" can see the "lifeline" that holds life together. Nanaya Shiki, on the other hand, sees "life itself." To put it a simpler way, the real Tohno Shiki sees the "gas tank that makes a car run." On the other hand, Nanaya Shiki sees "the engine of the car itself." "Gas" is crucial to the "life" of a car. But what good is "gas" if the "engine" - the "life" of the car itself, is dead? Apparently, they seem to be looking at the same "lines of death." However, Nanaya's vision is more direct at "ending a life itself"
Now THAT is what I call a true spoiler. Thanks Kj1980. That explains a lot. At least the game angle makes the anime make more sense. I wonder if the series will continue to be similar to the game though.
The idea of adopting the child of a defeated foe is not a new one in terms of Japanese history. Didn't several daimyos do the same after basically wiping out the family of a rival daimyo? I think the logic is that adopting a child of an enemy family or marrying one's child to a last surviving heir of an enemy family legitimizes control over that newly conquered area especially in an area that was loyal to the former daimyo.
Cool. Some of my answers were shown in Ep. 10.
Nanaya family clan's decimation, the Tohno family secret, and some parts of childhood memories.
Although, Shiki still seems to believe he's the one who killed the other child and he's the one who was punished by Tohno Makihisa. Let's see when he'll find out it was actually the other way around...
btw, I'm somewhat relieved, but somewhat saddened how they didn't go into much more detail on why Kohaku and Hisui was needed to "control the Tohno family curse."
Like how Hisui used to be much more cheerful and how Kohaku was the one who had to suffer the wrath of Tohno Makihisa's cursed blood...by rape
Thelastguardian
2003-12-06, 16:24
esp 9 is out, everyone go and fetch them!! :D
Sry I resisted reading the spoiler :) Esp9 explained a lot of what truely happened in the past.
just seen ep9
I have a few questions, even though some of them may have already been answered in those spoilers but I didn't read them.
Why the hell were theycharging each other with pocket knives. Since Shiki is the adopted child why do they look so much alike, they even wear the same clothes.
just seen ep9
I have a few questions, even though some of them may have already been answered in those spoilers but I didn't read them.
Why the hell were theycharging each other with pocket knives. Since Shiki is the adopted child why do they look so much alike, they even wear the same clothes.
I'm not 100% sure about this one but from what I've read...
Both of the boys are named Shiki, the "real" Tohno Shiki supposedly went beserk from the demonic blood early and killed the other Shiki who was adopted. And I think the Shiki we've all seen was trying to protect Akiha.
I'm not 100% sure about this one but from what I've read...
Both of the boys are named Shiki, the "real" Tohno Shiki supposedly went beserk from the demonic blood early and killed the other Shiki who was adopted. And I think the Shiki we've all seen was trying to protect Akiha.
Also, Shiki Nanaya goes sometimes into a frenzied rage against inhuman creatures, as Arcueid could taste in episode 1. Probably it was a combination of both rage and the desire to protect Akiha when Shiki Makihisa went berserker due to the demon blood
GATX207_Blitz
2003-12-06, 22:16
hey just finished episode 9 it was great!
now I know who the red haired "sorceress" or lady that some others wanted to see come back I was surprised :eek: I bet most others weren't
adn the thing after the preview the last question arcueid asks :naughty:
Also, Shiki Nanaya goes sometimes into a frenzied rage against inhuman creatures, as Arcueid could taste in episode 1. Probably it was a combination of both rage and the desire to protect Akiha when Shiki Makihisa went berserker due to the demon blood
I haven't played the game in a long time, but I believe that Shiki Nanaya's demon hunter lineage gives him an innate urge to kill demons, that's why he suddenly appears a lot more powerful when confronted by the vampires.
Also I believe before he lost his memory he went through some intense training as a kid, which explains how he occassionally "awakens" and kicks huge monster butt.
FlyByNite
2003-12-07, 03:07
Watched episode 9 It seems like Shiki got confused and thought he had killed someone in that flashback? It didn't make sense since he was the one who got stabbed. It's obvious Roa(guy from end of last episode) is the other kid cuz he got slashed across the eye by Akiha's father.
So was it then Roa or Shiki who was kept in the basement cage? And was that the same woman who gave him the knife the one who gave him the glasses? It was hard to tell with the lightning and being up in the tree.
Getting pretty interesting.
Dopeskills
2003-12-07, 03:29
There is still one nagging question...
Why did Shiki (Nanya) kill Arcueid?
There is still one nagging question...
Why did Shiki (Nanya) kill Arcueid?
Isn't it just because she's a vampire and Shiki has vampire-killing instincts based on his bloodline?
eMpTy265
2003-12-07, 10:26
Isn't it just because she's a vampire and Shiki has vampire-killing instincts based on his bloodline?
Either that, or that part of Roa's, 'insanity' shoud I call it?, got infused into Nanaya Shiki after the childhood event.
Maybe this causd Shiki to lose control...
Or maybe it's because of his family's bloodline, where his 'job' used to be to kill the undead.
Or maybe it's a mixture of everything...
hmm... still too early for be to be able to post in a coherent fashion... guess I'll wait. =P
Watched episode 9 It seems like Shiki got confused and thought he had killed someone in that flashback? It didn't make sense since he was the one who got stabbed. It's obvious Roa(guy from end of last episode) is the other kid cuz he got slashed across the eye by Akiha's father.
So was it then Roa or Shiki who was kept in the basement cage? And was that the same woman who gave him the knife the one who gave him the glasses? It was hard to tell with the lightning and being up in the tree.
Getting pretty interesting.
I'm pretty damn sure Roa/Shiki was the one locked in the cage cause his father couldn't bear to kill him.
No idea about the person in the tree, I'm just thinking it was some family/related person.
And to clear things abit more, Shiki comes from a line of demon hunters, so they get some impulses of sorts to attack when some demonic/inhuman being are nearby.
thanks for the spoilers, finally understand the story . . . really good anime
Wandering_Youth
2003-12-08, 06:08
Cool. Some of my answers were shown in Ep. 10.
btw, I'm somewhat relieved, but somewhat saddened how they didn't go into much more detail on why Kohaku and Hisui was needed to "control the Tohno family curse."
Like how Hisui used to be much more cheerful and how Kohaku was the one who had to suffer the wrath of Tohno Makihisa's cursed blood...by rape
Ditto. That would rather explain why the twins are so opposite from each. Anyway, did you guys download the Tsukihime zip file on BT? It has all the character in cute chibi sizes and other nice wallpapers. I wonder if Aoko does get turned... One more thing, does anyone know if the wallpapers are official because some of them don't look like it?
NenMaster
2003-12-08, 19:05
this series is getting better and better each week, rate this no1 from november releases for best drama, fantasy anime
One more thing, does anyone know if the wallpapers are official because some of them don't look like it?
Those wallpapers seem to be non official, although some of them may be official its hard to tell. Anyways it doesn't matter to me as long as I get to add more Tsukihime wallpapers to my collection especially Ciel wallpapers :)
DryMaltExtract
2003-12-08, 21:51
Where can I find the torrent for these wallpapers?
Also...
I don't think this was answered and I am curious.....was the Akiha drinking blood thing inserted into the anime instead of mentioning all the rape or did Akiha drink blood in the game as well?
I don't think this was answered and I am curious.....was the Akiha drinking blood thing inserted into the anime instead of mentioning all the rape or did Akiha drink blood in the game as well?
Yes, that was in the game as well....exactly the same way, via Kohaku-san ^^;
Tasuke00
2003-12-09, 00:50
Sobz sobz... i hate sad ending... Hope the ending is good... But is there anyone here watch the ending already?
Wandering_Youth
2003-12-09, 01:23
Where can I find the torrent for these wallpapers?
Right here (http://orochiaria.homeunix.net:3333)
lavarock
2003-12-09, 05:33
After reading KJ's spoilers, I became very interested in the story (since EVERYTHING make sense now), and I went ahead and found more info about the original story (seems like the anime is following the story quite closely here). One thing to note is the story is very deep, much deeper than I thought after watching episode 1-9.
I found that Hisui and Kohaku both are descendent of one of the four familyclan that hunts unhuman creatures (another one of the four is the Nanaya family). Also Hisui and Kohaku somehow switched identity during the course of Shiki's "accident".
Also, Arcueid Brunestud is slept most of the time in her castle during her 800 years of life, the time she acutally awaken is only summed up to a year.
Also can anybody played the game explain Aoko Aozaki, she is one of the only five sorceress alive, but somehow she detached herself from the orginization?
Ep 9 is weird...
Apparently Nanaya Shiki still thinks he is Tohno Shiki and that he killed Nanaya Shiki and got stab in the chest by the father.
The point is... if the Shiki we know is Nanaya Shiki, he shouldn't be able to visualize clearly the event that happened after he was stabbed by Tohno Shiki. He would be uncouscious or half-dead by then.
Seriously did the producers change the story? If so the scene where he retrieve the knife after the big massacre will be rendered insignificant. :eyebrow:
And the cell with messages of "Help me" on the wall. I think its not where Roa is kept, cuz we hear a female voice whispering for help towards the ending of the episode. Could it be the red-hair sorceress?
We haven't seen much of her yet... :p
lavarock
2003-12-09, 07:11
Ep 9 is weird...
Apparently Nanaya Shiki still thinks he is Tohno Shiki and that he killed Nanaya Shiki and got stab in the chest by the father.
The point is... if the Shiki we know is Nanaya Shiki, he shouldn't be able to visualize clearly the event that happened after he was stabbed by Tohno Shiki. He would be uncouscious or half-dead by then.
Seriously did the producers change the story? If so the scene where he retrieve the knife after the big massacre will be rendered insignificant. :eyebrow:
And the cell with messages of "Help me" on the wall. I think its not where Roa is kept, cuz we hear a female voice whispering for help towards the ending of the episode. Could it be the red-hair sorceress?
We haven't seen much of her yet... :p
This anime is weird:D
Now for that room, I am pretty confident that it's where Tohno Shiki's confinement take place before he is banished. A very disturbing thought for the blood on the wall, they may come from how Kohaku is "used" to release Tohno Shiki's demonic urge....
Hmmm... I thought Kohaku services Akiha exclusively? :D
Anyway, it wouldn't make sense that the voice calling for help belongs to Kohaku. If its to satisfy Tohno Shiki's demonic urge, it could have been an order from Akiha or the previous head of the family. Kohaku and Hisui are born to be servants to the Tohno family, there's no reason to call for help when they are taught from young to obey and fulfil their lord/mistress's commands.
Well, that's just my thoughts on this... :pI thought questions will be answered in this episode, in the end I get more questions... :heh:
Nvm... let me find out in ep 10 myself... :p
lavarock
2003-12-09, 08:14
Hmmm... I thought Kohaku services Akiha exclusively? :D
Anyway, it wouldn't make sense that the voice calling for help belongs to Kohaku. If its to satisfy Tohno Shiki's demonic urge, it could have been an order from Akiha or the previous head of the family. Kohaku and Hisui are born to be servants to the Tohno family, there's no reason to call for help when they are taught from young to obey and fulfil their lord/mistress's commands.
Well, that's just my thoughts on this... :pI thought questions will be answered in this episode, in the end I get more questions... :heh:
Nvm... let me find out in ep 10 myself... :p
In the game, it's shown that Kohaku has been used by Tohno's family to calm Shiki's demonic urge since she is 10 years old... It's ordered not by Akisha(she is still very young at that time) but by the elder of the family (Akisha's father). Kohaku mostly took them as suffering and she has a very mix feeling towards the Tohno's family.
In the game, it's shown that Kohaku has been used by Tohno's family to calm Shiki's demonic urge since she is 10 years old... It's ordered not by Akisha(she is still very young at that time) but by the elder of the family (Akisha's father). Kohaku mostly took them as suffering and she has a very mix feeling towards the Tohno's family. Ah... I see some light now... Thanks...
It makes me wonder what had really happened in the game though. :heh:
Please await for my spoiler...coming soon!
GATX207_Blitz
2003-12-09, 16:17
Could it be the red-hair sorceress?
We haven't seen much of her yet... :p
uhhh.... didn't you pay attention? The red haired sorceress is AKIHA! You not only see that its her in the flashback, but at the end of the episode you see her with the red hair....
i saw yumitsuka covered with blood in one of the wallpapers i downloaded, does she has some sort of secret identity too ?
Tensai_kamen
2003-12-09, 16:33
uhhh.... didn't you pay attention? The red haired sorceress is AKIHA! You not only see that its her in the flashback, but at the end of the episode you see her with the red hair....
I cannot agree with your opinion. How can Akiha suddenly grow up when she is actually younger than Shiki. The red hair IMHO is just a coincidence.
lavarock
2003-12-09, 17:44
uhhh.... didn't you pay attention? The red haired sorceress is AKIHA! You not only see that its her in the flashback, but at the end of the episode you see her with the red hair....
LOL dude, you are totally mistaken....
The red haired sorceress is Aoko Aozaki, she is only the remainging five sorceress alive and is definitly not Akiha!! Plus you should notice that Akiha is younger than Shiki and how can she look so old?
The reason Akiha's hair turns red is when she can not suppress her demonic bloodline, also she has very neat ability when her hair is bloody red.
lavarock
2003-12-09, 17:47
i saw yumitsuka covered with blood in one of the wallpapers i downloaded, does she has some sort of secret identity too ?
Satsuki Yumiduka? I don't think so, anyone has insider info on this?
Please await for my spoiler...coming soon!
man you love to write or something. When is the next spoiler coming ...
i saw yumitsuka covered with blood in one of the wallpapers i downloaded, does she has some sort of secret identity too ?
you mean this pic of Satsuki, I believe it is her
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/091203-satsuki.jpg
Below is a spoiler from the game don't read it if you don't wan't to get spoiled
Satsuki, sadly but true in the game gets turned into an vamp, Shiki tried to save her but couldn't and was forced to kill her.
you mean this pic of Satsuki, I believe it is her
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/091203-satsuki.jpg
Below is a spoiler from the game don't read it if you don't wan't to get spoiled
Satsuki, sadly but true in the game gets turned into an vamp, Shiki tried to save her but couldn't and was forced to kill her.
my heart is broken . . . . .
but thanks for replying
eMpTy265
2003-12-09, 19:38
Well... at least in the anime Satsuki doesn't get converted...
(or at least it doesn't seem so... not enough air-time left I think)
Still, in the game it was sad how Satsuki always saw Shiki as the person who would rescue her from death... yet Shiki became her deathbringer...
(though in a way Shiki did save her... but still.)
N E WayZ.. back on topic, so how does (Nadaya) Shiki remember the events of (Tohno) Shiki after he got stabbed?
Has it got something to do with the fusing with Akiha? Or is it because part of Roa/Shiki also merged with him?
Darn... and I thought it couldn't get more confusing.
[P.S. Scary how Kohaku is used when she was young... no wonder it was removed in the anime... it's child rape (Akiha's dad) & premature sex (With Tohno Shiki).]
skittles and hohos
2003-12-09, 20:43
(In refernece to above spoiler)
I don't understand why they even had the scene with shiki and yumitsuka going home together in the anime.
Seems so cheesy to build up the suspense over a few days only to come back and say she was sick and didn't even visit the hotel.
Or maybe not...maybe we have yet to see her last.
I don't remember if there were any alternate stories such as this in the game.
(In refernece to above spoiler)
I don't understand why they even had the scene with shiki and yumitsuka going home together in the anime.
Seems so cheesy to build up the suspense over a few days only to come back and say she was sick and didn't even visit the hotel.
Or maybe not...maybe we have yet to see her last.
I don't remember if there were any alternate stories such as this in the game.
I have a feeling we get to see Satsuki again with more importance. I just hope what happens to her in the game doesn't happen in the anime. Shes such a sweet girl she didn't deserve what happened to her in the game, I hope she gets more attention from Shiki in later episodes.
Now that I think of it 13-14 episodes isn't going to cut it, theirs way too much story it should of been a full 26 episodes. Theirs so much stuff their going to have to cut out from the game.
but is there anything else she(satsuki) could be, other than being " covered in blood " ???
Ciel, arcued, akiha, the 2 maids all have secrets/abilities..
satsuki and shiki's best friend are just normal students... all they can be is victims of vampires etc
skittles and hohos
2003-12-09, 21:51
satsuki's "special ability" is:
her incredible potential as a vampire. She neither became a zombie nor is she in control of her master vampire
@keitarou
I agree that what happend to her in the game was tragic, but sadly I dont think there is any other way to include her in the story any further.
Hey, I am new to this show and I am a bit confused about Ciel even after watching eight episode (okay I didn't watch them very carefully but still). I mean who is she? And why is she about to disappear? What important role does she play?
Wow I just strated this Shingetsutan Tsukihime. So far I watched the first 3 eps and downloaded it up to the 9th I think. Anyway I want to watch more. Weird but interesting beginning it has. I didn't fully understand the full story of it. Well I hope I undertstand it when I watch more.
eMpTy265
2003-12-09, 23:27
Hey, I am new to this show and I am a bit confused about Ciel even after watching eight episode (okay I didn't watch them very carefully but still). I mean who is she? And why is she about to disappear? What important role does she play?
You mean in ep.8, where Ciel says that she'd like to remain as the nosy sempai a little longer?
I think she meant that soon she would have to reveal herself as the vampire-hunter, in order to help Shiki.
Ciel's the previous host for Roa, and apparently after Roa left her to possess Tohno Shiki, Ciel became immortal. (Apart from (Nadaya) Shiki killing via life-lines, Ciel can't die)
So, the church that found Ciel took her in, and now she slays non-human creatures.
(For more details read KJ's detailed explanation, which basically tells you everything.)
Wandering_Youth
2003-12-10, 01:05
you mean this pic of Satsuki, I believe it is her
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/091203-satsuki.jpg
Below is a spoiler from the game don't read it if you don't wan't to get spoiled
Satsuki, sadly but true in the game gets turned into an vamp, Shiki tried to save her but couldn't and was forced to kill her.
Oooh that's just really sad. Is this the bad ending for the game or is there an ending where she does not get turned?
lavarock
2003-12-10, 06:54
Ciel's the previous host for Roa, and apparently after Roa left her to possess Tohno Shiki, Ciel became immortal. (Apart from (Nadaya) Shiki killing via life-lines, Ciel can't die)
So, the church that found Ciel took her in, and now she slays non-human creatures.
(For more details read KJ's detailed explanation, which basically tells you everything.)
Can Ciel be killed by both Shiki by cutting her lifeline? I somehow doubt that. You can always kill her but she will come back to life after some time
Master Ran
2003-12-10, 07:37
If true immortality for vampires is just an illusion, And Shiki can destroy life itself. Then how come Arcued lived after Shiki cutting her to pieces?
Did she like Roa possessed a human?
Just wondering
Master Ran
If true immortality for vampires is just an illusion, And Shiki can destroy life itself. Then how come Arcued lived after Shiki cutting her to pieces?
Did she like Roa possessed a human?
Just wondering
Master Ran How about this? Arcuied said she became weak as she had used most of her powers to revive herself. Maybe Arcueid as the Princess of the Shinso has the power to revive herself, the other vampires don't. That's why Nero stayed dead and Roa needed a body to attain true immortality.
I have doubts though, cause kj1980 said that there is no true immortality. Arcueid did died however, just that she came back at the expense of her power. Hmm...
If true immortality for vampires is just an illusion, And Shiki can destroy life itself. Then how come Arcued lived after Shiki cutting her to pieces?
Did she like Roa possessed a human?
Just wondering
Master Ran
I think its because Shiki simply "cut" her into pieces. That could explain why Kohaku saw nothing else when she picked up Shiki, perhaps Arcueid revived and that too returned her blood.
I've read this elsewhere but not too sure on this. Shiki can supposedly see a "death dot" similiar to a line, but simply piercing it destroys the existance of anything , thus being able to kill immortals.
Mistwrath
2003-12-10, 10:50
You mean in ep.8, where Ciel says that she'd like to remain as the nosy sempai a little longer?
I think she meant that soon she would have to reveal herself as the vampire-hunter, in order to help Shiki.
Ciel's the previous host for Roa, and apparently after Roa left her to possess Tohno Shiki, Ciel became immortal. (Apart from (Nadaya) Shiki killing via life-lines, Ciel can't die)
So, the church that found Ciel took her in, and now she slays non-human creatures.
(For more details read KJ's detailed explanation, which basically tells you everything.)
In respond to the spoiler above, can someone tell me how u guys know that Ciel's the previous host for Roa ? Is it me or is that I missed the episode where she revealed her identity ? :confused:
In respond to the spoiler above, can someone tell me how u guys know that Ciel's the previous host for Roa ? Is it me or is that I missed the episode where she revealed her identity ? :confused:
they played the tsukihime game
Mistwrath
2003-12-10, 11:00
Thanks bocyogl for the help, I was about to go watch it all over again to make sure I didn't miss out any details on it hehe :D
In respond to the spoiler above, can someone tell me how u guys know that Ciel's the previous host for Roa ? Is it me or is that I missed the episode where she revealed her identity ? :confused:
I have played the Tsukihime doujin game when it was released in Winter Comike 2000. The doujin group TYPE-MOON has become a legend in the doujin community in Japan - their game has sold record proportions in comparison to other softhouses, and became the first ever doujin group to have its own doujin genre (you have the Tsukihime doujin genre when Tsukihime itself is a doujin game). It also marks the first time that a doujin game has sprawned its own merchandise and anime series. Summer of 2003, TYPE-MOON has evolved from being a doujin group, to becoming a commercial softhouse.
Doujin TYPE-MOON HP - http://www.typemoon.org/main.html
Commercial TYPE-MOON HP - http://www.typemoon.com/main.html
DryMaltExtract
2003-12-10, 11:48
I'm willing to bet that Satsuki became a vampire way back during the hotel incident. Since Roa seems to know a lot about Shiki he may have also been present at the hotel and changed her back then. (Though I have not seen anyone post about who changed her, could have been Nero for all I know). So in a final climatic or anti-climatic battle with Roa, she'll show up be diced into pieces after Shiki goes nuts for a bit with less non-flashback air time than Nero. Or they'll do the "I always liked you. I have more to say before I am about to...*DIES*" that many anime deaths entail.
I'm willing to bet that Satsuki became a vampire way back during the hotel incident. Since Roa seems to know a lot about Shiki he may have also been present at the hotel and changed her back then. (Though I have not seen anyone post about who changed her, could have been Nero for all I know). So in a final climatic or anti-climatic battle with Roa, she'll show up be diced into pieces after Shiki goes nuts for a bit with less non-flashback air time than Nero. Or they'll do the "I always liked you. I have more to say before I am about to...*DIES*" that many anime deaths entail.
i thought people at the hotel were eaten or killed by the doggies, but what u said is a possibility~
GATX207_Blitz
2003-12-10, 13:10
Hey I got one question in the song is that arcuied? I'm talking about that lady in the dress who falls off the building.
Well I was just guessing about the akiha thing so o well yea I guess I jumped the gun a little before hitting the post button oh well.
Yup... that is Arcueid, she has long hair back then... saw it in the artbook, she was all chained up.
Mistwrath
2003-12-10, 23:49
The anime doesn't explain quite some stuff regarding the characters compared to the doujin or game leaving some of the fans clueless :D
Well it is already episode 10 and still a lot of things are uncertain up to this point of time, let's hope they can make a good plot of the 4 remaining episodes.
Man this is like KgnE, the suspense is killing me ! :D
lavarock
2003-12-11, 05:19
I really hope this series has a second season, you just can't unwrap all these plots in 14 episodes...
Hmm... I found some interesting screenshots of a Street Fighter type of game for Shingetsutan Tsukihime. :p
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031211-0028-113.JPG
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031210-2354-065.jpg
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031210-2219-391.JPG
Thanks to Mentar... :D
JacobM5727
2003-12-11, 08:06
wow, thats.. odd
lol - cool though
Tboz - Thats Melty Blood, the storyline in that game follows up a year after Tsukihime. Theres another sequel called "Kagetsu Tohya".
Both storylines can't exist at the same time due to being in paralell universes. Well....thats just from what I've heard.
Anyways I've got it on my comp, pretty good game, although as you can see the character sprites are quite pixely. I can bear with it seeing some of the "effects" are abit flashy, heh.
My biggest gripe with this game is you can't fongire your keyboard, so to play it with ease you gotta get a gamepad of sorts.
NenMaster
2003-12-11, 10:59
Hmm... I found some interesting screenshots of a Street Fighter type of game for Shingetsutan Tsukihime. :p
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031211-0028-113.JPG
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031210-2354-065.jpg
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031210-2219-391.JPG
Thanks to Mentar... :D
they made a beat em up :) lol thats funny
Commissar
2003-12-11, 14:17
With all this talk about Melty Blood, what exactly happens in the storyline of Melty Blood? After the first game, what are they fighting over?
Asura Zanmaden
2003-12-11, 14:45
I really hope this series has a second season, you just can't unwrap all these plots in 14 episodes...
It's actually 12 episodes. =\
With all this talk about Melty Blood, what exactly happens in the storyline of Melty Blood? After the first game, what are they fighting over?
Supposedly Shiki meets this "cop" named Sion/Shion (Sion is how they spell it in the game) and they team up to hunt vampires. It's basically a visual novel, interspersed with fighting scenes. There's also just a fighting part you can play, instead of the story mode.
lavarock
2003-12-11, 17:00
Supposedly Shiki meets this "cop" named Sion/Shion (Sion is how they spell it in the game) and they team up to hunt vampires. It's basically a visual novel, interspersed with fighting scenes. There's also just a fighting part you can play, instead of the story mode.
I have this game on my computer... gotta play it in the break.
Supposedly Shiki meets this "cop" named Sion/Shion (Sion is how they spell it in the game) and they team up to hunt vampires. It's basically a visual novel, interspersed with fighting scenes. There's also just a fighting part you can play, instead of the story mode.
Guess I'll go abit deeper into the storyline....
As with Tsukihime there are many routes, I'm just saying what'd I think would be the "main" one.
Shiki meets this alchemist Sion(not your tradional kinds, shes supposed to have different abilities). Anyways there appears to be a serial-killer on the loose again I think. Sion was bitten by a vampire acouple years ago, and since then has slowly been turning through not fully turned yet. Shes here to find Arcueid and hopfully find some information on how to cure vampirism.
I'm not sure myself why do most of the fights even happen, but it appears that Warakia(supposed shito) is manifesting as fears of people and such.
Anyways, from close to the end it seems that he manifested as Nero Chaos
the final battles and endings vary quite abit so I'm not going to add much into that.
Commissar
2003-12-11, 18:11
Does anyone know what happens in the game when you get the "True" ending with Arc? I am dying to know what happens when you get this in the game. Any details would be much appreciated. Thanks.
I have this game on my computer... gotta play it in the break.A couple of people had reviewed "Melty Blood" (http://shop.himeya.com/products/adult_mag_jp/melty_blood/melty_blood.html) at Himeya Soft. There's a list of the characters and some of their powers from there.
chibikit
2003-12-11, 23:38
I like the way the anime plays on the anticipation and suspicion of the viewer (well, mine anyway). Ever since Arcueid mentioned that Lore changes bodies every so often, I've been looking at who it could possibly be every episode. The show drops red herrings that it might be so-and-so, draws the suspense and suspicion out, then shows that it isn't. And now, with the other guy who has Death's Eyes in the picture, it becomes even more mysterious.
Quite simply, I ca't wait for the next episode of this series every week. ^_^
eMpTy265
2003-12-12, 00:12
I like the way the anime plays on the anticipation and suspicion of the viewer (well, mine anyway). Ever since Arcueid mentioned that Lore changes bodies every so often, I've been looking at who it could possibly be every episode. The show drops red herrings that it might be so-and-so, draws the suspense and suspicion out, then shows that it isn't. And now, with the other guy who has Death's Eyes in the picture, it becomes even more mysterious.
Quite simply, I ca't wait for the next episode of this series every week. ^_^
You mean Roa?
Doesn't he only change bodies when the previous host dies?
Wandering_Youth
2003-12-12, 01:41
Hmm... I found some interesting screenshots of a Street Fighter type of game for Shingetsutan Tsukihime. :p
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031211-0028-113.JPG
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031210-2354-065.jpg
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031210-2219-391.JPG
Thanks to Mentar... :D
Heh Cool. I was wondering what Melty Blood was because it was all over the Tsukihime BT file.
Only two more episodes to go, and in Ep. 10 they talked about Ciel's secret...
Now to cram Roa and the real Tohno Shiki connection, Akiha's role, Hisui and Kohaku roles into the next two series...
Key Board
2003-12-12, 04:42
Only two more episodes to go, and in Ep. 10 they talked about Ciel's secret...
I'm wondering how there are going to end this.
What will become of Akiha well she fully reverses?
What will become of Kohaku when the truth is revealed?
What will become of Arcueid after this ends?
and what the heck to they have in mind for Satsuki?
At this rate, Hisui might be the only sole survivor of the series.
I'm hoping for an S2, so they wouldn't have to cram everthing in those last 2 episodes. :)
P.S anyone listen to Tsukihime Original Soundtrack yet its awesome
Tboz - Thats Melty Blood, the storyline in that game follows up a year after Tsukihime. Theres another sequel called "Kagetsu Tohya".
Both storylines can't exist at the same time due to being in paralell universes. Well....thats just from what I've heard.
Anyways I've got it on my comp, pretty good game, although as you can see the character sprites are quite pixely. I can bear with it seeing some of the "effects" are abit flashy, heh.
My biggest gripe with this game is you can't fongire your keyboard, so to play it with ease you gotta get a gamepad of sorts. Ah... so that's Melty Blood, I have heard something about it but wasn't show of its connection with Shingetsutan Tsukihime.
Thanks. :D
I must agree that many questions are still unanswered, I would hate to see the story being rushed for the ending. :(
chibikit
2003-12-12, 05:53
Well, if you think of it from the point of view of a practical immortal, "when the host dies" does practically mean every so often, right? It's a matter of viewpoint. ^_^
So it's supposed to be spelled Roa? I suppose the version I watched made a bit of an error there then...
Well, if you think of it from the point of view of a practical immortal, "when the host dies" does practically mean every so often, right? It's a matter of viewpoint. ^_^
So it's supposed to be spelled Roa? I suppose the version I watched made a bit of an error there then...
That is why you have Arc mention the phrase, "your life is short, why are you wasting time?" And then you have Shiki's counter "is it that important to waste time?"
Yes, I would believe it would be spelled Roa.
Well.....if you feel desparate you could go pick up the raw, heh.
Just got the ost yesterday, listening to it abit..... favourite is track 21 justice.
LeiMagusIII
2003-12-13, 16:01
Agh! No new episode released this morning!
Tsukihime is like my Saturday morning cup of coffee right before watching Pokemon! I feel incomplete...
guynextdoor
2003-12-13, 20:13
Agh! No new episode released this morning!
Tsukihime is like my Saturday morning cup of coffee right before watching Pokemon! I feel incomplete...
true true. where is my tsukihime ep ? i thought it should be out by now. oh well :(
skittles and hohos
2003-12-14, 04:12
Just got the ost yesterday, listening to it abit..... favourite is track 21 justice.
The OST is great - only a bit short of perfect since it didn't have the full OP song... Does anyone know when its comming out?
That is why you have Arc mention the phrase, "your life is short, why are you wasting time?"
Whats really short is this series. They are trying to make everything as time effeicient as possible to fit as much information in as possible. imo they should really have more time dedicated to character development/interactions.
The OST is great - only a bit short of perfect since it didn't have the full OP song... Does anyone know when its comming out?
I have the full OP song, I think it came out on bt a while ago by itself. Anyways the OST is awesome I like 12, 21,24.
the new tsukihime episode was great! clarified a lot of stuff I was wondering when they'd start to clarify...
such as Arc's backstory, Roa's backstory, and Ciel's backstory...
Also, finally the dork Shiki treats Arc nice for once and goes on a "real" date. :)
mono no aware
2003-12-14, 06:02
deleted. gone.
mono no aware
2003-12-14, 06:06
I have the full OP song, I think it came out on bt a while ago by itself. Anyways the OST is awesome I like 12, 21,24.
:confused: isn't that the same as the one in OST or are we not talking about the same thing? both run for ~1:30.
:confused: isn't that the same as the one in OST or are we not talking about the same thing? both run for ~1:30.
oops I believe I got mixed up with the ED song with OP, my mistake. That one came out as an single before the OST. The OP song is a 1:30 and is called Sacred Moon which is included in the OST. I think their is no full version of it unless someone can prove me wrong.
oops I believe I got mixed up with the ED song with OP, my mistake. That one came out as an single before the OST. The OP song is a 1:30 and is called Sacred Moon which is included in the OST. I think their is no full version of it unless someone can prove me wrong.
Damn.....I wanted to see if there really was a full verson of the OP.
Anyways, anyone else notice how track 12 - crescent seems abit like sacred moon? :P
Listening to 17 - Beleaguer another one I find good.
mono no aware
2003-12-14, 10:43
duplicate post.
mono no aware
2003-12-14, 10:45
while we are on the subject of OST, i'm still not sure which of the two cbr or vbr is supposed to have superior quality?
the nipponsei version i think has a cbr of 160 kbps so it's clearly inferior to either of the two versions released by AGO ...
also, is it just me or does the mu3 file for the AGO releases not play properly?
I downloaded the Nipponsei verson. 160 kbps is still pretty good.
Overall I believe cbr have better quality, since vbr reduces bitrates in some areas of songs that don't need as much, although I'm not entirely sure.
And I pray ep 10 comes out today, dying to know whats gonna happen....
Here's another Melty Blood screenshot I found to ease our boredom for the time being.
Giant Akiha simply owns... :heh:
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031213-0008-738.JPG
Here's another Melty Blood screenshot I found to ease our boredom for the time being.
Giant Akiha simply owns... :heh:
http://www.moeboard.net/ahdpahdp/20031213-0008-738.JPG
Heh, simply evil!!
Heres one of my favourite shots from Melty Blood while we're at it...
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/141203-ka00.jpg
eMpTy265
2003-12-14, 14:50
Heh, simply evil!!
Heres one of my favourite shots from Melty Blood while we're at it...
http://server4.uploadit.org/files2/141203-ka00.jpg
OMG, that is SOOO cute. :D
I think I'm going to get myself addicted to MB after my exams are over.
(oh BTW, how did you get that 'event' to happen?)
Lol... that's cute. :D
It reminds me of one question I have been wanting to ask for some time. Why do I see pics of Arcueid with fox ears? Is she a fox demon in Melty Blood?
:confused:
Well to get the "event" to happen, I believe this is how you do it.
Play as Arcueid, and "shield"(using shield button) all three punches from Ceil's A>A>A combo.
You'll know that combo when she hits ya and it knocks you against the wall from across the screen >.>
Not too sure about Arcueid with cat ears, but it mentions here http://www.geocities.com/max3075/characters.htm(spoiler heavy) .
Shes a character that appears in Tsukihime whenever you get a "bad" ending along with Ciel.
daimonth
2003-12-14, 15:18
Well to get the "event" to happen, I believe this is how you do it.
Play as Arcueid, and "shield"(using shield button) all three punches from Ceil's A>A>A combo.
You'll know that combo when she hits ya and it knocks you against the wall from across the screen >.>
Not too sure about Arcueid with cat ears, but it mentions here http://www.geocities.com/max3075/characters.htm(spoiler heavy) .
Shes a character that appears in Tsukihime whenever you get a "bad" ending along with Ciel.
Yep that is how you do it.. just keep on using the 4th button with Arcueid and when Ciel does her 3 light punch, block all three (sometimes I get it with just 2 punch... just keep on blocking it) and you'll see that happen and see them both fly back across the screen XD If you just want to see it it's easier to do it with 2 players. Incidentally I was doing that trick a few days ago.
Neko Arc is like Arcueid's SD version XD
If you go to type moon voting page you'll be able to see all the characters plus their 'possible' move list.... Neko Arc has some hilarious sounding moves.
Anyone having trouble on the main animesuki site?
oh yeah...........EP 10 is OUT!
get it http://a.scarywater.net/akeep/
skittles and hohos
2003-12-14, 15:35
Why do I see pics of Arcueid with fox ears?
When you die in the game, Ciel shows up and tells you to go back to the last option and choose another path. If Arc had already showed up in the game at that point, the "cat" version of her would be there with Ciel to throw random comments around. Its quite funny. You can also have other "guests" (e.g. Roa) show up and tell you random stuff.
In the flashback Ciel looked wicked in ep10 I like her even more now.
Arc and Shiki go on a date for real this time how nice of him I guess he only did it because he forgot about their promise to meet at the playground every night. Looks like they have fun on their little date, poor poor Satsuki. I wonder if they even are going to make her into a vamp like the game since their is only 2 episodes left. I rather have her not involved any more then she is, shes just to sweet and nice to do that to her. Arc turns into an blood sucking zombie an tries to attack Shiki towards the end I thought Arc hated blood. Seems like Ciel was stalking them on their date. I can't wait for the next episode, maybe Arc and Ciel will fight a little bit.
Kamui4356
2003-12-14, 18:54
I saw episode 10 eariler. It was good, but I was hoping for a bit more action, like another encounter with Roa. Oh well, as long as it's good I shouldn't complain. Only 2 episodes left, I'm probably setting myself up for a disappointment, but I'm expecting a fairly good ending. I think Shingetsutan has passed KGNE as my favorite anime this season.
Anyway, Melty Blood is a fighting game but the fights only come as certain points in the story? Well that's better than most, with the story appearing mostly in the instruction manual. It looks good, and one of the people who reviewed it at Himeya soft said it was on par with guilty gear xx which is one of my favorite fighting games. Anyone here who's played it agree?
I thought this was a good ep, get to know more about Arcueid and Ciel.
Kinda funny that Arcueid hates blood, but tries so hard to control herself when she sees it. I'm kinda wondering "what" causes Shiki's wound to reopen? Is it just the memory?
I thought this was a good ep, get to know more about Arcueid and Ciel.
I'm kinda wondering "what" causes Shiki's wound to reopen? Is it just the memory?
Maybe it has to do with the time, right when it hits 9PM it reopens.
AkihaTohno
2003-12-14, 20:12
Anyway, Melty Blood is a fighting game but the fights only come as certain points in the story? Well that's better than most, with the story appearing mostly in the instruction manual. It looks good, and one of the people who reviewed it at Himeya soft said it was on par with guilty gear xx which is one of my favorite fighting games. Anyone here who's played it agree?
I do! I love Melty Blood! (And their other games are good too).
I never played GGXX so I don't know it's comparison. Please don't shun me. lol
Commissar
2003-12-14, 20:41
I thought this was a good ep, get to know more about Arcueid and Ciel.
Kinda funny that Arcueid hates blood, but tries so hard to control herself when she sees it. I'm kinda wondering "what" causes Shiki's wound to reopen? Is it just the memory?
It's already hinted earlier on by Ciel, that Arc's hatred of blood is not all that sincere. She may mentally hate it, but it's very clear she has a lust for it. Sort of puts a crimp in a relationship when the girl you date both likes you and wants to stick her fangs into your neck :eyespin:
eMpTy265
2003-12-14, 20:58
I thought this was a good ep, get to know more about Arcueid and Ciel.
Kinda funny that Arcueid hates blood, but tries so hard to control herself when she sees it. I'm kinda wondering "what" causes Shiki's wound to reopen? Is it just the memory?
I wonder whether's it cuz of the nature of vampires?
I think Arc once tasted blood a long time ago and went crazy because of it right?
Maybe blood's one of those forbidden instincts that vampires have.
Arc knows the problems associated with blood, and so she hates it maybe?
So maybe the blood thing is a love/hate relationship?
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