View Full Version : Naruto Manga ch 192 Summary[Spoilers]
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As Neiji was about to hit the spider guy from behind, he looked at Kiba and sensed that something was wrong so he decided to move from where he was. He moved and Neiji missed his attack, he then used all 6 arms to create a huge web net and trap Neiji with it.
He then used the web and covered Neiji totally with it, it looked like some type of web cocoon and Neiji was trapped inside.
Naruto and his clones tried to break free from the web, but the spider guy noticed, and he used his web to create some type of long blade. He created 6 blades, one for each arm and for each Naruto's.
He started to attack all of the clones, each one he attacks then dissapered. He distroyed all of them leaving one, so he figured that was the real Naruto. He then tossed the blade at him, and everyone was shocked that he hit Naruto.
Naruto fell down on the net, and then he exploded. It turned out that all 6 Naruto's that was trapped on the web were all clones, and the real Naruto was hiding somewhere.
The spider guy was shocked that none of them were real, and all of a sudden Naruto came right behind him and was about to punch him but he noticed and blocked him. He then used some type of wire to wrap around Naruto's arm, then he was dragging Naruto towards him and all of a sudden Neiji came out of no where and cut the wire.
The spider guy looked suprise that Neiji was able to break out of his web cocoon.
Neji grabbed Naruto *it looks like they were hugging o.o, i can already smell the Naruto x Neiji doujins comming* , he grapped Naruto and brought him back to where the others were. Neiji then began to say something to the group * i guess he was telling them to go and that he will take care of the spider guy*
The spider guy started to say something and then Neiji turned around and stared at him with his Byakugan on. ^^
Ok this chapter was amazing and i was suprised the Spider guy was able to hold off all 4 of them off so long without even using the curse seal, not to mention level 2...
So next chapter is gonna be Neiji's turn to show off his stuff and i can't wait to see what new moves he has up his sleeve.
oh yeah, Neiji seemed to have developed some close relationship with Naruto... it kinda makes you wonder*sniff, sniff* :naughty:
MasaMune
2003-11-08, 10:21
Interesting stuff, seems like the end of this arc is still nowhere in sight. Can't wait to see what'll happen though.
Cool. If Kidoumaru can take them without the level 2 Curse Seal, imagine if he uses it...
Dragon Flame
2003-11-08, 11:00
we need to be reassured of their (Naruto and Co.) humanity, everyone seems to think that they're so damn tuff cuz they keep fighting each other and winning, even tho their fighting amongst their genin brethren, i remember in the beginning of the series you could deffinately tell that there was no chance that Naruto or any of his buds could even touch a jounin, but now look, afetr one year it SEEMS as if they're all mega powerful, we need to be reassured that they arent that damn tuff... they need to get beat.. Neji must fall.. having them fail would deffinately make this manga more interesting
i just scrolled the past summary discription, is it worth reading, or should i wait for the manga?
Dragon Flame
2003-11-08, 11:44
yea its worth reading p3psi, good stuff this chap has
we need to be reassured of their (Naruto and Co.) humanity, everyone seems to think that they're so damn tuff cuz they keep fighting each other and winning, even tho their fighting amongst their genin brethren, i remember in the beginning of the series you could deffinately tell that there was no chance that Naruto or any of his buds could even touch a jounin, but now look, afetr one year it SEEMS as if they're all mega powerful, we need to be reassured that they arent that damn tuff... they need to get beat.. Neji must fall.. having them fail would deffinately make this manga more interesting
Amen.
But despite that, I think we will see Neji stopping Kidoumaru alone while the other run for Sasuke :/
seems to me neji has the upper hand with is "heveanly spin" defense, i.e. webbing him wouldnt do much.
I think Neji will beat the spider guy but I doubt he will be able to rejoin the group. He would probably faint or something after this battle.
Off course, it's the Saint Seiya style
El Diablo
2003-11-08, 14:31
If the web traps people, shouldn't they just be able to use kawarimi no jutsu to escape? Since all it does is replace your body with something else then you should just be able to place something in the web and escape, or does it not work like this?
Lee-pimp
2003-11-08, 15:22
the chapter isnt up on the sites that i checked but you did a good job of summerizing it and i hope that neji gets beat then they all try to take the spider guy and get beat then some anbu comes and finds them like 2 days later
Nagare Ryouma
2003-11-08, 15:37
neji would probably end up beating up spiderman.... after all, how much he has improved his abilities is not known ever since the battle of his and naruto.... He might have come up with a new move, not to mention how he isn't that arrogant neji no more; which makes him a better ninja of course. all the fights are most likely gonna be 1 on 1 style. i wonder who's it gonna be after neji? frankly speaking i'm more interested in finding who naruto is gonna face off......
hyuga neji
2003-11-08, 16:33
I have a pretty strong feeling Neji is gunna win. Also I don't think they'll be able to curse seal level 2. Only jiroubu or whatever his name is, fatty sound nin, could because he sucked away chakra from the guys earlier.
you cant go level 2 if you're dead. if spiderboy keeps underestimating neji, neji can catch him off guard and murder him before he even can even go level 1 seal
Dopeskills
2003-11-08, 19:29
Ok, there is just one thing that pisses me off...
Why the hell did Naurto attack the spider guy with a regular punch? Why not use the rasengan? He wouldn't have been able to block that.
it would have been ko and that battle would have been over too fast and it would make them seem INVINCIBLE like the others said.
Ok, there is just one thing that pisses me off...
Why the hell did Naurto attack the spider guy with a regular punch? Why not use the rasengan? He wouldn't have been able to block that.
Doing it would have probably drawn attention, remember it requires building a massive amount of chakra. He also hasn't mastered it yet either, but I do see your point(he could have done better then a punch :)
Neji will win, or at least double KO.
AGAIN.
hyuga neji
2003-11-08, 20:44
well the other fight wasn't exactly a double ko. Chouji is still alive, and jiroubu looks pretty dead to me. Hopefully Neji shows off a new move :D
Lord Raiden
2003-11-08, 20:51
Doing it would have probably drawn attention, remember it requires building a massive amount of chakra. He also hasn't mastered it yet either, but I do see your point(he could have done better then a punch :)
Correct. To execute that Naruto is gonna burn off a TON of chakra doing it, even with Kyubi chakra to help out he's still going to go through a lot of his own. The other side to things is this. None of them have the chakra to waste on such a powerful attack. Besides, using that attack would put Naruto out of the battle (you remember what it did to him against Kabuto) and there's no guarentee it would hit its target. On top of that, it's major league overkill.
I hope Kidoumaru, Tayuya and Sakon kick Naruto and co. asses and put an end to this nonsense. SASUKE CAN'T GO BACK TO THE LEAF. It would suck all the way.
well the other fight wasn't exactly a double ko. Chouji is still alive, and jiroubu looks pretty dead to me. Hopefully Neji shows off a new move :D
A double KO doesn't mean both of them have to be dead. A KO means that the person has to be down and out.
Sure one is down and out more permanently then the other but they're still both KO'd.
;)
And it's not sure whether Choji is alive or not. I'm betting that he is alive but you never know.
:)
aFlipGuy
2003-11-08, 22:46
OMG i kept thinking that it was a fake naruto again that punched him and then he would come out behind him w/ a rasengan!!!!!!! but that never happened so eh
I cant say that neji will win but i really hope he wins, hes a cool character even though he can be very haughty but thats just why hes so cool (vegeta version)
We still dont know if Choji is alive but i hope he dies so that his name gets carved in that monument ^_^
I think sasuke will get away w/ ONE of the sound nin. it would sux if he goes back to konoha b/c why would u force a person to live in a city? he will try and run away some more and go to oro......he needs to get stronger anyways so he might as well go to oro. he also need to learn how to summon the snake so he can be atleast around naruto's level ^_^
Dopeskills
2003-11-08, 23:28
The only way Sasuke will come back is if he decides to on his own.
My opinion is Naruto and co will eventually catch up wif Sasuke and by that time , Sasuke will be released from that bucket thing. Naruto and co will ask him to come back to the Leaf and he'll refuse and probably bash them up...
diabolistic
2003-11-09, 00:15
Heh.. what will end up happening is a showdown between Naruto and Sasuke,.. and Sasuke will be all powered up and tossing Naruto around like a rag on a stick.. when, in the nick of time, Naruto uses the "power that i only get when protecting loved ones" and tears Sasuke a new a**hole.
:heh:
Moon The Cat
2003-11-09, 02:48
(Moon craddles in pain saying: 193.....193.....193....)
MajinBuu
2003-11-09, 07:30
Good,just downloaded chapter 192.Btw,Sasuke will never come back,no matter what,he's path is chosen.
Nagare Ryouma
2003-11-09, 07:34
OMG i kept thinking that it was a fake naruto again that punched him and then he would come out behind him w/ a rasengan!!!!!!!
Uh, Naruto's not that smart.......well at least for now; but he's getting there. (The kage bunshin plus deciving spiderman with that last clone proves that Naruto's improved a lot....) But then again, the Rasengan consumes too much charka.... At a critical moment like that it could have attracted spiderman's attention before Naruto got to him. So the punch was like a near hit.....damn, would have love to see Naruto's punch landing it on spidey..... that freak, freak...
Uh, Naruto's not that smart.......well at least for now; but he's getting there. (The kage bunshin plus deciving spiderman with that last clone proves that Naruto's improved a lot....) But then again, the Rasengan consumes too much charka.... At a critical moment like that it could have attracted spiderman's attention before Naruto got to him. So the punch was like a near hit.....damn, would have love to see Naruto's punch landing it on spidey..... that freak, freak...
What do you mean Naruto is not that smart? He just didnt' want to use his Rasengan yet and besides Naruto is not meant to fight Kidoumaru, Neiji is suppose to fight him.
And if Naruto were to use the Rasengan Kidoumaru would have been dead because theres no way he could have blocked that with just his hands, and if Kidoumaru had died that easily, it would have looked too cheap and easy.
Oh yeah, on the last page, Neij said *Its meaningless in front of my JYUUKEN* so i'm guessing thats some new technique he learned or created.
Oh yeah, on the last page, Neij said *Its meaningless in front of my JYUUKEN* so i'm guessing thats some new technique he learned or created.
The Jyuuken is the real name of the gentle fist, the hyuga style ;)
It's 'just' a new way to use it : to destroy the things built by or with chakra.
Leaf_Ninja
2003-11-09, 11:27
I say Neji's gonna win. And even if spider-man tries to turn into curse seal level 2 Neji would probably just block up his chakra and prevent it from happening.
So the outcome of the fight is oviously the KICKASS NEJI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I look forward to the next chapter ... go Neji!! X33 And yeah, hopefully he'll show-off some kick ass moves. :D
Neji seems freaking dangerous... seeing the enemies chakra paths too... so he can kill instanly! Only if he were fast as SASUKE :p
But what would happen when Sasuke is rescue?? Will they blind them selves so they wont see SASUKE WENT ON HIS OWN!!!! Hopfully they wont rescue him, but trying to... Because it will suck because seeing sasuke betraying his comrades, including Naruto... And Naruto wants to be reconized to Sasuke, and not being ignored any more...
In the Anime series Sasuke and Naruto are getting real close... seeing how Sasuke betrayed Leaf will kill Naruto... seeing how good friends they are.. :p
Will Sasuke and Naruto fight????
Paiser, they all know that Sasuke went on his own.
And yeah the storyline moves towards a fight between Naruto and Sasuke.
uglypigs
2003-11-09, 16:32
so 3 more fights till the big showdown between the 2 star crossed lovers?
Nagare Ryouma
2003-11-09, 17:43
What do you mean Naruto is not that smart? He just didnt' want to use his Rasengan yet and besides Naruto is not meant to fight Kidoumaru, Neiji is suppose to fight him.
And if Naruto were to use the Rasengan Kidoumaru would have been dead because theres no way he could have blocked that with just his hands, and if Kidoumaru had died that easily, it would have looked too cheap and easy.
He isn't smart coz he's impulsive. He tends to fire up too easily and that's not smart during a battle; it can get you killed. Well, he 'was' like that but the Naruto now is different..... At least he's more wise in thinking and does come up with an short strategy.... And how do you know he doesn't want to use his Rasengan 'yet'? After all, didn't he went all fired up and executed the Rasengan to Sasuke back then? I don't think Naruto is someone who would think things ahead dude...... And uh, yeah.... it's obvious that spidey ain't Naruto's opponent.......................................... .
I dunno what will happen if Naruto did executed the Rasengan to spidey... But I assume the was a reason for him to be one of the 4 sound nins. So apart from blocking with his hands, I think he'll try to dodge it; since that has a better chance for him to live........for the time being. I wonder who's gonna face off that guy(or chick?) who can literally make another head outta her/his back.....
He isn't smart coz he's impulsive. He tends to fire up too easily and that's not smart during a battle; it can get you killed. Well, he 'was' like that but the Naruto now is different..... At least he's more wise in thinking and does come up with an short strategy.... And how do you know he doesn't want to use his Rasengan 'yet'? After all, didn't he went all fired up and executed the Rasengan to Sasuke back then? I don't think Naruto is someone who would think things ahead dude...... And uh, yeah.... it's obvious that spidey ain't Naruto's opponent.......................................... .
I dunno what will happen if Naruto did executed the Rasengan to spidey... But I assume the was a reason for him to be one of the 4 sound nins. So apart from blocking with his hands, I think he'll try to dodge it; since that has a better chance for him to live........for the time being. I wonder who's gonna face off that guy(or chick?) who can literally make another head outta her/his back.....
He's not someone that thinks ahead? hmmm, you must be reading or watching some other show then. In almost all of his fights he always thought ahead and i'm not about to list all of the times because anyone that reads the manga knows.... Its true that he will rush into an enemy somethings without thinking, but we hardly ever see him do that anymore.
And yes its obvious that the spider guy is not Naruto's opponet, so thats why KISHIMOTO, didn't make him use the Rasengan because the spider guy would be DEAD.
But whatever i'm not going to argue with you on this...
When i said will they blind them selves that sasuke went on his own?
I meant by WUT HAPPENS TO SASUKE??? WILL THEY BLIND THEM SELVES TO THE "TRUTH" THAT HE WENT ON HIS OWN!????!! OR CAN THEY FORGIVE HIM???
Wrong impresion huh?:D
Sasuke and Naruto... round?? 3 right?
The chapters are getting predictable. It's sort of stupid waiting for them to fight. It's not like they would accomplish anything in these fights anyway. We all know well that Sasuke won't come back so soon.
I dont think Neji is going to use any new moves. 64 point was the height of the Hyuga clan and he has already mastered that.
Neji will probably crush the spider guy and go back for Chouji or something
Hopefully Sasuke will die, he sucks.
But we know that won't happend, so I guess i'll just have to hope for Naruto to kick his ass.
Actually I hope that Sasuke will kick Naruto's ass.
It's the only way for him to become a true vilain and not an useless brat as Sakura.
Sasuke probably will kick Naruto's ass this time cause it's the only way he would be able to meeto Oro. We all know he will need to meet Oro.
Naruto will probally end up loosing... having sasuke's new found of power and all... that cheap ass... using curse 2... but naruto kinda cheating in a way too.. :p he has fox powers...
In fact it's possible that Neji will show up a 'new' move in this fight, Neji can stop the chakra flow of his opponent, but he can also bost his own chakra flow with his gentle fist.
There is a great possibility that it will be forced to do that I think.
OFFSPRiNGCo16
2003-11-09, 22:37
Yea the chapters are getting kind of predictable but I still love it :p Anyhow, Hunter is right, it is possible that Neji will show us a new move or at least an awesome fight...hehe :p
wouldnt be funny if something like this happens???
If neji has some kinda ANOTHER way to use his chakra moves?? such as instead of JUST stopping the opponents chackra it reverse they're technics... Meaning if they used chackra it would back fire.... Someone use fire techinique instead burn them selves.... would be cool huh? seal 2, no seal 2 but seal -2 lol would kinda cool if it happens.. OHOHOH^.^
I guess no one in this forums thinks that Oro will successfully take over Sasuke's body. I for one hope Oro does. It will be a big twist and it will make the story interesting and it still keeps Oro has the Major villian in the story line.
Also a Sad story on Oro's behave is long over do. We haven't seen him hurt and cry yet. LMAO how funny would that look :heh:
Moon The Cat
2003-11-10, 01:40
I guess no one in this forums thinks that Oro will successfully take over Sasuke's body. I for one hope Oro does. It will be a big twist and it will make the story interesting and it still keeps Oro has the Major villian in the story line.
Also a Sad story on Oro's behave is long over do. We haven't seen him hurt and cry yet. LMAO how funny would that look :heh:
I know it would turn out to be good, but....I don't want to see Sasuke dying no matter how much I dislike him. I just sounds like nonsense.
SamGadsby
2003-11-10, 01:59
And if Naruto were to use the Rasengan Kidoumaru would have been dead because theres no way he could have blocked that with just his hands, and if Kidoumaru had died that easily, it would have looked too cheap and easy.
I disagree. The Rasengan was invented by the fourth hokage and is only known by 3 or 4 top-level ninjas. It should defeat almost anyone, if used properly.
Probably Naruto didn't have the time to make the rasengan, he watched as his clones got destroyed, then got impulsive and acted.
juri_miki
2003-11-10, 02:20
Reading chapter 192 was uber-cool and I am totally waiting for that Neji fight to commence.
I'm really disappointed in the fact that these battles are going 1 on 1, but if they were using team effort in each one Sasuke and those two will have long crossed the border. The only thing I'm worried about is Kiba. Who is he gonna battle? I don't know how he's done since he lost to Naruto, but I don't see him coming out of his battle a total victor, if he were to engage in a similar fight as his other 2 comrades.
As for the impending fight between Sasuke and Naruto, I say that I would like for the fight to happen, but much, much later. It's still too early to for them to have a really effective battle unless it's still gonna act as a "taste" of the real battle that is yet to come. If a fight between the both of them does ensue, then I would like to see how Naruto is going to handle it since he already had a hard time stomaching the truth about Kabuto. If anything, I see Sasuke crossing the border anyways with the sound nins. If not with them, then he will tell them, Naruto and Co., that he's gonna go see Oro no matter what (if he magically rises from that box). If not that, someone might come and pick him up.
Yet though, granted that Sasuke already has a lot of potential w/this new curse seal, I still can't see how much more powerful it's going to make him against Naruto or even Itachi. Apparently the level 2 curse seal turns you something that's not even human, but it drains mad stamina. This is bad when going against Naruto because if anything, that's what he has, an insane amount of stamina. Even if Sasuke will have a considerable amount of more chakra there's still no way he can keep up with Naruto. Even if Naruto is still learning how to work with the Kyuubi chakra, I still consider that to be much more powerful than anything that Oro can give Sasuke. I say that knowing that 4th Hokage died while sealing the Kyubi within Naruto, meaning, I guess, that the only way they could defeat that big thing was to seal it away. And if the 4th Hokage couldn't really kill it and knowing that the 4th was apparently much stronger than Oro, then what chance does Oro have against Naruto when he summons the Kyubi inside of him? Even Oro doesn't know how powerful that thing was, if he did, I'm sure he would've joined Itachi in his quest to get that thing out of Naruto.
But then one can argue that Sasuke is still stronger and much, much faster than Naruto which is true and this new curse seal will amplify those abilities even more. But as we've seen in the recent Sasuke fights, he gets kind of crazy when he comes close to losing and he loses that all that coolness and calm that he had at the beginning of the fight. I think that he's becoming a lot sloppier as of late. It's almost as if Sasuke is reverting to the way old Naruto used to be and vice versa. So I see Sasuke learning how to summon that huge snake that Oro has to go against Naruto's frog. (can't remember the name of it at the moment.) But ultimately the thing that will call for Naruto's ultimate victory is the one thing that Naruto has that Sasuke lacks, and that is the fact that Naruto has something to protect where Sasuke doesn't. If we all know anything about anime and manga, those who have something significant and valuable to protect then they will always come out the victor (or dead but still victorious). But I hope that Sasuke snaps out of it. He doesn't really know what Oro plans to do with him yet, so he might, just might, if he isn't that much a jerk yet, put up some kind of fight with Oro. Wouldn't another one of those be cool? Like having someone with the curse seal go against him.
Nagare Ryouma
2003-11-10, 02:28
He's not someone that thinks ahead? hmmm, you must be reading or watching some other show then. In almost all of his fights he always thought ahead and i'm not about to list all of the times because anyone that reads the manga knows.... Its true that he will rush into an enemy somethings without thinking, but we hardly ever see him do that anymore.
But whatever i'm not going to argue with you on this...
Well, you don't seem to be getting the point here Crimson san :eyebrow: If you compare to other characters, Naruto tends to be somewhat slow in thinking ahead. It's true however he does come up with a strategy at critical moments (like the one against Mizuki and Zabuza etc) but that only happens at a certain time, when he's able to maintain his composure that is. But you were speaking about him using the Rasengan at a situation like that when he's not even 100% god damn focus..... isn't that reckless then? Boy, I'm glad your not Naruto :joke: That's what I meant about him not thinking ahead before, and he's somewhat getting better now. If you read the manga from volume 1 and watched the series from chapter 1 closely (hopefully), you'll realize Naruto's growth and changes that occured through out his experience.
If you don't understand that, then there is no point in discussing it then. And no, nobody is arguing here; it's always fun to share our thoughts about the anime that's all ;)
such long post juri i aint gonna read that long of a post...
Agreed Naruto isnt that great on knowledge but he has good fightin tenicniques... but when he fighting on ground will it be different??? also Naruto can probally rip them apart if he use Rasengan and seeing how strong it is.... he kill if it actually hit....
MORE CHAKRA MORE POWER!!! that means u win :p
MajinBuu
2003-11-10, 05:39
True,true,Naruto's improvement is great.You can see that when he's learning Rasengan,but still,there's a long way ahead.Anyway,I don't think he's going to lose against Sasuke.He can control only a little of Kyubi's chakra and even so he's power is huge.What if he learns to control all of it?Nobody would be able to face him then :P
I disagree. The Rasengan was invented by the fourth hokage and is only known by 3 or 4 top-level ninjas. It should defeat almost anyone, if used properly.
Probably Naruto didn't have the time to make the rasengan, he watched as his clones got destroyed, then got impulsive and acted.
Um..., did you even read what i said? I said if Naruto had used the Rasengan on the spider guy he would have been dead... and he had plenty of time to do the Rasengan because he was hiding the whole time while he clones was trapped in the web.
And only 2 person knows the Rasengan now, Naruto and Jiraiya...
I notice alot of people saying Sasuke and Naruto will fight each other but i don't think Sasuke will be revived from his current state for awhile even thought it would be good to see them fight again.
Nagare Ryouma
2003-11-10, 07:03
True,true,Naruto's improvement is great.You can see that when he's learning Rasengan,but still,there's a long way ahead.Anyway,I don't think he's going to lose against Sasuke.He can control only a little of Kyubi's chakra and even so he's power is huge.What if he learns to control all of it?Nobody would be able to face him then :P
We were very close in seeing an ultimate battle of Naruto vs Sasuke back then; not until Kakashi stopped the both of them (Man, impressive how he had guts to actually jump right between the Rasengan and Chidori.... (bow's down to Kakashi :bow: )) I'm really looking forward to see Sasuke's sharingan vs Naruto's 9 tails.... It's like waiting for Ippo vs Miyata again from Hajime No Ippo.... By the way, Sasuke doesn't know about Naruto's little secret eh? I wonder how he'll be once he know's about the 9 tails? Hmmmmmm................
he had plenty of time to do the Rasengan because he was hiding the whole time while he clones was trapped in the web.
True, Naruto had plenty of time to do the Rasengan..... but~! Don't forget, in Naruto's state right now, executing the Rasengan for him now needs time for the preparation, which is concentrating his charka at one focus point. Pretty much like Chidori..... And like DragonBall Z, anybody in the Naruto world is capable of sensing charka.... Especially with a large concentration charka like the Rasengan.
Dragon Flame
2003-11-10, 10:28
they cant sense chakra, if they could sense chakra then Kakashi wouldnt have needed to have used the dog summons to catch Zabuza in the mist, and they wouldn't have needed the dog again to catch up to Gaara during the final exam, nor would they have needed Akamaru and Kiba to find the 4 Sounds and Sasuke, they cant sense chakra
lol, thats true they can't sense chakra. They might be able to get a certain feeling from chakra like when Naruto was fighting Neiji and the 3rd Hokage felt some evil in the chakra and knew it was from the Kyubi.
Nagare Ryouma
2003-11-10, 11:23
they cant sense chakra, if they could sense chakra then Kakashi wouldnt have needed to have used the dog summons to catch Zabuza in the mist, and they wouldn't have needed the dog again to catch up to Gaara during the final exam, nor would they have needed Akamaru and Kiba to find the 4 Sounds and Sasuke, they cant sense chakra
I don't mean normal charka, but a big one... You know when a certain charka is been concentrated it creates an aura that makes other feel it's existence. Like Crimson mentioned when Neji fought with Naruto and 3rd Hokage felt the evil charka or killer intent from Kyubi. So if Naruto was gonna execute the Rasengan, it would have created a commotion from the large amount of concentrated charka. I believe I said that from my last post didn't I?
anybody in the Naruto world is capable of sensing charka.... Especially with a large concentration charka like the Rasengan
But thx for the info Dragon Flame!
Dragon Flame
2003-11-10, 11:45
ah see, theres a diff from sensing killer intent from someone or something, and sensing their chakra...
sensing chakra is too corny and cheap, but i guess with a large amount like the kyuubi it would be acceptable to be able to "feel" it
The ninja can't sense or see Chakra in normal event (exept the Hyuga and the Uchiha of course).
They can do it only when the chakra si extremely concentrated like the Chidori, the Rasengan or the Kaiten for example or in the case of Naruto using the power of the Kyubi/Sasuke using the curse seal because the amount of chakra released is gigantic.
But even in this case, not all people can sense it, remember when Sasuke used for the first time the curse seal, Dosu felt immediately that the chakra that Sasuke released was too big for them but Zaku didn't sense anything.
DontEatGrandma
2003-11-10, 14:01
as someone said earlier...it seems as though Naruto and Co. are too powerful.
The Sound nins are orochimaru's personal bodyguards, and even if they were tired b/c of Curse LVL 2, they should still be able to kick a genin's ass in a one on one fight.
Do you think that Naruto, Neji, Chouji, or the other 2 would be able to beat Kakashi? or any of the other pretty good leaf jounins? Cause the sound nins are probably around the same level as kakashi and the other good leaf nins.
The sound nins ARE jounin, and they ARE oro's bodyguards. So consider the reality of genins>jounins...meh
On a sidenote, these guys are from sound right? i'd like to see some sound type abilities from them like the ones from Dosu and Co.
Cause the sound nins are probably around the same level as kakashi and the other good leaf nins.
The sound nins ARE jounin, and they ARE oro's bodyguards. So consider the reality of genins>jounins...meh
No they aren't.
They're chounin level without the curse seal.
But yeah anyway Naruto & Co become too powerfull too fast.
Die Choji die!
Even if dough that Naruto could of used the rangansen anytime he wanted to(even that he had huge ammount of time that he had the chance to... while hiding from the spider freak) naruto has to think that he has the perserve chakra for later use... scince he can summon 50 billion shadow repulicates, rangansen or soemthing is HUGE amount of chakra to use... same thing with sasuke thunder thingy attack... i dont know the proper attack names... i read and i scim thru it... n/e ways Naruto has probally thought that he had to perserve and use for later causes... and besides he has so many comrades around him and ONE guy to fight.... so he probally thought that no use of using a SUCH A POWERFUL attack on a guy that will get his ass beat by 4 more other guys inculding Neji
Proved my point????
MORAL OF THIS IS DONT WASTE SUCH GOOD ATTACK WHEN YOU CAN PERSERVE AND SIT BACK WHILE YOUR OTHER COMRANDS CAN DO THE JOB! in other words perserve and use for a bigger cause
DontEatGrandma
2003-11-10, 15:56
I mean, do you think that orochimaru would guard himself with chuunins?
hunter-san, how do you know that they are chounin level w/o curse seal?
and have we learned yet how someone goes from chuunin to jounin?
I mean, do you think that orochimaru would guard himself with chuunins?
hunter-san, how do you know that they are chounin level w/o curse seal?
and have we learned yet how someone goes from chuunin to jounin?
its pretty obvious since all 4 of them had to go level 2 just to fight to Konoha jounin. if they were jounin they would have just overpowered the others by numbers.
its been almost 200 issues and 4 years, why havent we learned anything about kakashi's eye, or nothing really about his past.
as well as naruto's relationship with the 4th, and a whole bunch of other stuff that they should have touched upon.
not these stupid One on ONe chase after sasuke issues.
I mean, do you think that orochimaru would guard himself with chuunins?
Well yeah, if their strongest speciality are to create seals and barriers which is actually the case ;)
hunter-san, how do you know that they are chounin level w/o curse seal?
Like Andii said, they were forced to use the curse seal level two to handle 2 true jounins, and look at their fight agaisnt Sasuke during their first meeting, they were stronger than him, but not that stronger...
and have we learned yet how someone goes from chuunin to jounin?
Nop.
SamGadsby
2003-11-10, 18:19
Um..., did you even read what i said? I said if Naruto had used the Rasengan on the spider guy he would have been dead... and he had plenty of time to do the Rasengan because he was hiding the whole time while he clones was trapped in the web.
Yeah, I read your post. You said it would be cheap and easy, that's what I'm disagreeing with, I think he should of used Rasengan but he probably wasn't thinking like what other people are saying.
[QUOTE=DontEatGrandma]I mean, do you think that orochimaru would guard himself with chuunins?
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i would like to point out something else, this is Orochimaru we are talking about, its not like he really has many ppl(if any) to be afraid of.
damn Orochimaru is sooo cool :p
Well.... if the manga's are going to the part where about the relation between the naruto and 4th.... they're probally try unravel sasuke's new found of powers first.... if i am right... which i am :heh::heh::heh: it will take at least another.... 45 manga chapters where you want it to be at....(manga should be LONGER) and they're TOO SHORT!!! WAY TO SHORT LIKE FUU!!!
N/e ways Sasuke gonna win against Naruto... at least for now.... Sasuke and his New found of cheapness
Manga Maniac
2003-11-10, 21:07
I bet this is whatīs gonna happen. Naruto and another team member is gonna catch up with the last sound nin with sasuke in the sealed box.
the last sound nin fights against them both. Givng some good resistance.....then all of a sudden the crate explodes knocking out the sound nin and narutos comrade. (Seal 2 Sasuke apears). naruto thinks to himself....*Whatīs this huge chakra?*
Sasuke goes berserk and starts bitch slaping naruto. naruto unveils his demon-fox powers Big time. Sasuke gets more pissed. Bitch slapps naruto some more... Then suddenly out of the blue. He changes his mind and leaves the beated naruto on the ground...Says something about going to oro then leaves.
Making it a so called kakashi/Gai scenario where they competet on getting stronger than the other all the time.
The end
Edit: Simple and logical...nee??? maybe i should help them with the so eazy to figure out story :D
I bet this is whatīs gonna happen. Naruto and another team member is gonna catch up with the last sound nin with sasuke in the sealed box.
the last sound nin fights against them both. Givng some good resistance.....then all of a sudden the crate explodes knocking out the sound nin and narutos comrade. (Seal 2 Sasuke apears). naruto thinks to himself....*Whatīs this huge chakra?*
Sasuke goes berserk and starts bitch slaping naruto. naruto unveils his demon-fox powers Big time. Sasuke gets more pissed. Bitch slapps naruto some more... Then suddenly out of the blue. He changes his mind and leaves the beated naruto on the ground...Says something about going to oro then leaves.
Making it a so called kakashi/Gai scenario where they competet on getting stronger than the other all the time.
The end
Edit: Simple and logical...nee??? maybe i should help them with the so eazy to figure out story :D
Manga Maniac I hope that doesn't happen, seems too simple and repetitive...Who care about some rivrarly, Lets Go to other countries see thier advanced blood lines and kill more enemies
Manga Maniac
2003-11-10, 21:40
Say what you want antonik...but this is what most likely will happen. Since they work on such a rushed pace. Besides...if you look at sasukes historical relationship with naruto you might also find it to be very similar to Gai and kakashi. Thatīs why my previous statement will propably happen :/
Kakashi Sensei
2003-11-11, 00:59
Heck, I think everyone overlooks Shikamaru... he's becoming pretty darn cool. Even though we know he only has the shadow thing for now, he is a genious after all. :naughty: Maybe he has some cool hidden moves we dont know about... ? :D
Anyway, I wanna see a showdown between Naruto and Sasuke the same as anyone else. That'll be sweet. ;)
Hm... a Sakura fight would be cool too... but I don't know who against. She needs to get her butt moving and start TrAiNiNg if she wants any hopes with Sasuke. And Ino needs to find herself a new love. Shika maybe? And adding to that, he actually needs to start liking GiRlS. I mean, isn't it just a little odd at this point he thinks they're nothing but annoying?
:dots:
Anywho, Naruto is awesome. He's not only becoming smart, he's actually growing/grown up a bit. He's smarter, and correct me if I'm wrong, but still becoming stronger, right? With all that chakra and stuff, and more training to come, I can't wait to see what happens. :p
And they need to add a Kakashi/Gai fight in there somewhere just for kicks.
Let's just say if Naruto get hold of his Nine tail powers... He can use many Rangensen or something when ever he wants!
Sasuke aint gonna like sakura... until he achieve his ultimate goal... to kill his brother! (does any one know why he wants to kill him"???? its a mystery to me)
DontEatGrandma
2003-11-11, 03:43
well paiser...just maybe b/c itachi killed ALL of their family, leaving sasuke as the only survivor? might be a bit of a stretch, but that's my guess
people need to start dying for the next chapter, too many people alive still
paiser = lol
MajinBuu
2003-11-11, 06:44
True,the reason why Sasuke wants to kill his brother is beacause he killed all the members of the Uchiha Clan,leaving only Sasuke behind(maybe because he doesn't want to feel guilty about killing everybody,hmm,I think that there was someone who said this before :p)
hobobaggins
2003-11-11, 13:36
Heck, I think everyone overlooks Shikamaru... he's becoming pretty darn cool. Even though we know he only has the shadow thing for now, he is a genious after all. :naughty: Maybe he has some cool hidden moves we dont know about... ? :D
Anyway, I wanna see a showdown between Naruto and Sasuke the same as anyone else. That'll be sweet. ;)
Hm... a Sakura fight would be cool too... but I don't know who against. She needs to get her butt moving and start TrAiNiNg if she wants any hopes with Sasuke. And Ino needs to find herself a new love. Shika maybe? And adding to that, he actually needs to start liking GiRlS. I mean, isn't it just a little odd at this point he thinks they're nothing but annoying?
:dots:
Anywho, Naruto is awesome. He's not only becoming smart, he's actually growing/grown up a bit. He's smarter, and correct me if I'm wrong, but still becoming stronger, right? With all that chakra and stuff, and more training to come, I can't wait to see what happens. :p
And they need to add a Kakashi/Gai fight in there somewhere just for kicks.
the leaf is at war. sorry, but i dont think there will be a kakashi/gai fight.
and shikamaru really does not have any special hidden moves... he has his shadow bind... and that is it. if he had another jutsu, he would have used it before now... unless his dad taught him some special jutsu that is only to be used to protect a precious person....
his brains make him good.
Dragon Flame
2003-11-11, 13:41
hobo baggins, after the chuunin exam, Shika tells the crew that he has to go cuz his father is teaching him a new secret jutsu, so shika has more than just the shadowbind
Kakashi Sensei
2003-11-11, 16:03
hobo baggins, after the chuunin exam, Shika tells the crew that he has to go cuz his father is teaching him a new secret jutsu, so shika has more than just the shadowbind
True... the morning th guys came to get him he was like "Oh no there's not much time to train this morning" or whatnot cuz his father had to leave. :)
Naruto should place his hand on peoples chest (right above their heart) and perform the Rasengan. It will make their heart explode.... Yay :heh:
jackass jimm
2003-11-11, 19:41
look..in my opinion, its gona go like this.
1. neji fights the spider guy and he wins but has enough strenght to follow the others.
2. by this time kiba is fighting another one of the sound nins and is about to get his lights knocked out of him and neji rescues him at that point. and neji uses up whatever he has left to fight and kiba helps and there is a triple KO.
3. then shika and naruto catch up to the last one wiht the bucket and fight him....after a hard fight naruto and sika(with sika recently knocked out) are about to win but sasuke wakes up and the last sound nin thinks that he is gonna help him defeat naruto and shika but sasuke dosent. sasuke then kills the last remaining sound nin. and naruto is either surprised at the violence or thinks that sasuke is gonna alright.....but then sasuke goes after naruto.....and i think that its a long hard fight. and sasuke has to escape....
4.with sasuke escaping, he is met by oro and kabuto. he then goes with them.
well...thats how i hope it turns out...it sounds really good....grade my vision of a naruto story...form 1-5...with 5 being the best
DontEatGrandma
2003-11-11, 20:36
hmmm...i like it..id say a 4.5 or a 4....unless kiba has learned something new also. What would be even cooler though would be to have one of them die...like shika or kiba while naruto is watching, and then see him go fucking crazy...yum!
on a sidenote...i really dont think that itachi didnt kill his brother over something as small as guilt. I mean comon guys, this is like a natural born killer, he killed his entire damn CLAN in cold blood, why would he stop with his little brother?
Dragon Flame
2003-11-11, 20:59
brotherly love.. i dont know my two brothers.. but even if i was a cold blooded killer.. i woudlnt kill them
jackass jimm
2003-11-11, 23:42
WELL.. to me it seems that itachi was maybe partially brainwashed or made to think something. remember during the three legendary fight, oro says something about that if naruto catches that evil organizations eyes then he would be trouble later on for him.
to me it seems as if he is saying that for some reason later on naruto(under like spell you could say)would be workiing with the organization.
to me he realizes that naruto could become really powerful, especially having the kyiubu charkra inside.
so i think that this organization seeks out people to recriut and if they dont want to then they brainwash them.
i think that is what oro implied about naruto and that is what i think happened to itachi.
to me...in hte flashbacks he was ok. he wasent bad...just wasent the type to hang out with otheres....but then on the flashback that he killed everyone, he seems evil....and i didnt sense any evil form the other flashbacks.
well..just my opinion
I agree I think people are going to start dying about now. The number of character in Naruto at the moment is just too large to maintain. Some of them got to die off. Now obviously a lot of them still have to live. But there are too many useless characters at the moment.
Sakura needs to start training about now - and we also need to hear about Lee's operation! >< There are so many untied ends!
Sasuke is probably come out and then go follow Oro anyway. Maybe it would end with the team being over powered by the remaining sounds and then just when they were about to do the damaging move on the team, Sasuke come out of the coffin in an explosion and kill the remaining sound. Then by his own accord he go to Oro anyway.
Totally off topic but I just read a really good fanfic where Hinata had to run a sword through Naruto becuase the ninetail got out of control and was killing everyone. Naruto lives and then they became a couple (well obviously they had some sort of relationship even before this, but that was the climax). I would love it if that happens.
ryno2410
2003-11-12, 01:57
Its so exciting; Neji vs. Spiderman....Neji will have almost 11 times the amount of arms by the time he's done his 64 point attack.
Dragon Flame
2003-11-12, 08:43
i never thought of that jackass jim.. alot of stuff points to Itachi being brainwashed... like how Kisame asks "You still have feelings for your old country, dont you?" and hes like "No.." he could be referring to his brainwashing, or he could really be just that sick and demented
also, why leave Sasuke alive? unless the Akatsuki wanted to brainwash him later on in life when he got more powerful
jackass jimm
2003-11-12, 13:17
i dont think at atakus(or whatever it is) wants sasuke. i think itachi left him alive so he could have sasuke go mad and be wiht him. to me, i think itachi kinda liked sasuke. and he didnt kill him so sasuke would become crazy with evil and sasuke join him.
brother by brothers....fighting to the end......i think thats what maybe itachi thought. after he was manipulated and stuff. to me the atsakusi just dosent need sasuke. they only take the strongest parts...and itachi is the strongest form the uchiha clan. and naruto is gonna be strong so they might go after him.
off topic
how did naruto get the name uzumaki.....form what i see, sasuke is from the uchiha clan...so his name is uchiha sasuke and itachis name is itachi uchiha....so naruto got the family name Uzumaki form someone. what was the fourths name anyway. i am pretty sure it wasent uzumaki or esle everyone would respect naruto.
The Akatsuki isn't interested in Sasuke at all. Nor does Itachi. Why would they want a weak ninja like him?
They're interested in Naruto, they're interested in the Kyuubi's power. The one who's interested in Sasuke is Oro. Actually, I hope Naruto can beat Itachi only in a 1000 years. Itachi would be a very though enemy for even Jiraiya (IF Jiraiya can beat him), Naruto can't even touch Itachi-kun. I like my ol' theory lost within the ol' forum crash that Itachi will manage to kidnap Naruto (cause that's what he wants to do), this way beginning the Akatsuki arc (Jiraiya will go after Naruto, Sasuke will go with Oro after Itachi... well, something like that as far as I remember). For "Itachi kinda liked Sasuke". Well, or Itachi left Sasuke alive to carry his fault too; or he left Sasuke alive to really avenge him. My other beloved theories, which were lost, I made quite the most probable theories for the Uchiha clan destruction. Actually, I think it goes much deeper, something like Itachi was imposed to kill the clan (since he said it was important to him to do so, it's obvious he didn't make just for fun).
The 4th's name is unknow yet. The last name Uzumaki from Naruto came from his clan, it's obvious. Uchiha Itachi and Uchiha Sasuke are brothers, that's because the both are Uchiha, obviously.
PS. can't wait for chapter 193... oh well... Sakon, kick their butts already...
I don't think everyone with a surname necessarily has to come from a clan. Certainly some of them do, but it doesn't always follow that this is the case. Sakura, Lee, Ino, Iruka, Kakashi, all for example, I don't really believe they come from any particular clan or tribe or bloodline. Of course I could be wrong, but I still think people are jumping to conclusions and the name Uzumaki could be some name the 3rd gave him or just that his father was some ordinary merchant somewhere, blah blah, etc etc.
dorlf..
u got it wrong
lets say my name is bob green. in japan id be green bob
because there(and i htink china to) its last name the first name. so uzumaki...is his LAST name, or his FAMILY name...
DontEatGrandma
2003-11-13, 00:02
first off...Vicious, why do you assume that Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya? Jiraiya would just summon his frog and sit on him.
Also, where in the eps did it say that Itachi was stronger than Oro? i seem to recall it being implied but that just may have been b/c of what people stated on the forum.
Moon The Cat
2003-11-13, 01:43
first off...Vicious, why do you assume that Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya? Jiraiya would just summon his frog and sit on him.
Also, where in the eps did it say that Itachi was stronger than Oro? i seem to recall it being implied but that just may have been b/c of what people stated on the forum.
Oro admitted that Itachi is stronger.
And I think Itachi can kick Jiraiya's ass anytime.
(IKE IKE PERV SENIN!) I still :bow: for you.
jackass jimm
2003-11-13, 02:03
i think oro is stronger then jariya and tsunade...he is the strongest of the three legendary. and then oro admitted that itachi is more powerful.
so the order right now on the strength level is:
1.itachi
2.oro
3.jariya
4.3rd hokage(how he is now..well..not now but before he died)
5.tsunade
this is just my opinion...and who knows who the hell the higher ups at the atsuksu organization are...they ost prob freaking strong and have never shown themselvess.
the thing with they name...hte part that the last name goes first i figureed out while watching the anime. but i think in the manga they say itachi uchiha for some reason..dotn know where.
well..this is definitly a record..have never acutally posted.....i have like created like 2 threads ever and have posted like 5 times since i signed on...i just signed up to the board so in case i wanted to type something ever......but wow...a lot of posts by me..for the first time...guess this really got me interested.
dorlf..
u got it wrong
lets say my name is bob green. in japan id be green bob
because there(and i htink china to) its last name the first name. so uzumaki...is his LAST name, or his FAMILY name...
No no, that's not what I'm talking about. I understand very clearly that Sasuke's last name is Uchiha and that's why he's referred to as Uchiha Sasuke. I'm just pointing out that it's too easy to assume that just because there's a clan corresponding to the surnames of Uchiha, Hyuga, Akimichi, etc, then there must also be a clan by the name of Uzumaki, just because of Naruto. It doesn't follow.
but, a 'clan' ==family, there is NO difference...
first off...Vicious, why do you assume that Itachi is stronger than Jiraiya? Jiraiya would just summon his frog and sit on him.
Also, where in the eps did it say that Itachi was stronger than Oro? i seem to recall it being implied but that just may have been b/c of what people stated on the forum.
Well, I'll edit my post. I wanted to say that "... Itachi would be though for Jiraiya". That's true. Anyways, the strongest of the Sannin before getting armless is indeed Oro. Different from Jiraiya and Tsunade, he has a new body, and much more jutsu than them.
BTW, Moon-san, you know why Oro said Itachi is stronger than him, and this also has been discussed many times, so I don't have to say again :D
Dragon Flame
2003-11-13, 12:40
technically the San-nin are equal with each other.. seeing as how one trumps the other
but, a 'clan' ==family, there is NO difference...
lol there is a udge difference, people in the same clan aren't all in the same familly, in Naruto a clan is a group of people having a specialized jutsu.
It's like Duncan mcLeod of the clan McLeod :p
McLeod is the last name of anyone in the clan not just of one family.
but, a 'clan' ==family, there is NO difference...
Yes there IS a difference. A clan is a group of extended family members who usually identify themselves with each other and with a common ancestor. In the Naruto world, these clans usually tend to have special jutsus and/or bloodlines e.g. Uchiha, Hyuga. A family, as we use the term, refers to the nuclear family, father, mother, kids. In the case of such people as Sasuke, he belongs to both his own little Uchiha family (father, mother, Itachi) and the larger unit of the Uchiha clan.
My point here (once again) is that the fact a character has a surname means that there probably is/was a family with that name, but not necessarily a clan. Therefore, Haruno Sakura, for example, belongs to the Haruno family but this does not mean that there is a Haruno clan by all means. There could be, but we cannot just assume it from the fact that she has a surname. How did this all start anyway?
Edit: I didn't notice hunter posted before me. Btw, Duncan Mcleod is teh sexiest! :love:
Moon The Cat
2003-11-14, 02:05
Well, I'll edit my post. I wanted to say that "... Itachi would be though for Jiraiya". That's true. Anyways, the strongest of the Sannin before getting armless is indeed Oro. Different from Jiraiya and Tsunade, he has a new body, and much more jutsu than them.
BTW, Moon-san, you know why Oro said Itachi is stronger than him, and this also has been discussed many times, so I don't have to say again :D
Uhmmm, I actually forgot why, I only recall reading it in the manga. But if I'm wrong PLEASE correct me.
Uhmmm, I actually forgot why, I only recall reading it in the manga. But if I'm wrong PLEASE correct me.
You're not wrong, Oro said it in the manga.
But the point of Vicious is that for Oro, the best Ninja is the man who has the most jutsu, that's why Oro think that Itachi with his Sharingan is stronger than him.
Personally I don't think so, I think that Oro as a Ninjutsu specialist must be weaker than a true master of the sharingan who can understand/counter/copy all his jutsu.
Without speaking of the mange sharingan.
More seriously the reason of oro saying that Itachi is stronger than him was to introduce the character in the storyline ;)
It was to put the reader in a state of mind : WTF?!?! STRONGER THAN ORO THE BADASS??? OH DUDE THIS ITACHI MUST BE THE ABSOLUTE BADDAS!!!!! http://kaosounet.free.fr/gif/eek.gifhttp://kaosounet.free.fr/gif/eek.gifhttp://kaosounet.free.fr/gif/lhdevil.gifhttp://kaosounet.free.fr/gif/eek.gifhttp://kaosounet.free.fr/gif/eek.gif
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