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Pellissier
2007-08-07, 11:09
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:D Yeah
This episode promisse lots of team fight.
I cant wait for screens and subbed version. ;)
Fate_Archer
2007-08-07, 11:34
Can't wait for the release.
Hope the quality in this episode will be better than in the last one. :)
xVxObliVioNxVx
2007-08-07, 11:34
Teamwork! is what I am hoping to see more of in this episode. Kind of like the teamwork with Galatea, Clare, and Jeane in episode 17.
Defiled one
2007-08-07, 11:36
okay..Iīll try to dig something up
PS: I swear this episode is just like johnn carpenter "the thing"...Everything is going crazy.
I'm just hoping that they finally start going by the manga dialogue, they been watering down a lot of the funny parts such as undines lines.:nono:
Negativedark
2007-08-07, 11:46
Teamwork! is what I am hoping to see more of in this episode. Kind of like the teamwork with Galatea, Clare, and Jeane in episode 17.
Speaking of Jean and teamwork, I'd like to mention something about last weeks episode.
I don't think Jean should be leading a team right now. I belive she is still traumatized by what happened to the last team she lead, the one Riful and Dauf wiped out. She put all of her energy into covering the other members, like Waspinatior said.
Well I wonder just where this weeks episode will leave off.
I think this episode is exellent, the pace is pretty good, the animation is nicely done. For the first time I saw Veronica's face from the front angle :D. Although they did cut off some of the conversation between Miria and Flora. I complained about Flora's voice since last episode... well, she's still there with that creepy voice:D.
I like how they draw Isley, shorter hair, less feminine face. But the scene where Raki grabbed Priscilla's boob is a little bit cheap in my opinion, I don't remember that from the manga.
Defiled one
2007-08-07, 12:11
Noes;_; Miria!! You canīt do this to us!;_;
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http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/4368/10789695yr1.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/223/29305996fo1.jpg
:upset:Noes...Life is not fair!!
I don't see even a hint of Miria in those screenshot, why are you crying :D?
...
Yes, it was there, I'm talking of Raki action. You oversaw it, only...
and no sir, this isn't a spoiler... (but i must admit, i don't saw the Raw yet)
@ Defiled one
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5468/53381723it5.jpg
The true is much worse...
:D
Defiled one
2007-08-07, 12:28
It isnīt?:upset:
Did anybody die?
Defiled One > That's Priscilla.. easily recognizable aside from the new colored hair that is.
Defiled one
2007-08-07, 12:30
Yeah;_; My favourite character lost an arm;_;
Eh? Who else lost an arm? Are you saying you like Yuma :D?
witchking99
2007-08-07, 12:36
Finally!!! what I've been trying to say since last week, the "BIG" surprise, PRISCILLA has at last appear after so many years, YES!!! :D:D:D not only that but she is with Raki now.:twitch::twitch::twitch: to find out how you just gotta watch the ep.
Defiled one
2007-08-07, 12:38
Eh? Who else lost an arm? Are you saying you like Yuma :D?
Oh comon! She shou cute!!
Yei, any of this screens is for preview of next episode?
Defiled one
2007-08-07, 12:45
Yei, any of this screens is for preview of next episode?
What episode?:upset:
What episode?:upset:
All of this screens is episode 19 or any of then is the preview of episode 20?
I question, because is too fast to happen now, on ep. 19. :eyebrow:
Ok these shots are pretty confusing. How MUCH did they change ? ?.?
Yeah;_; My favourite character lost an arm;_;
Eh? Who else lost an arm? Are you saying you like Yuma :D?
She is called Uma actually. The Japanese only pronounce the name wrong. Viz uses that spelling as well and for once I agree with them :heh: (Is eclipse going to stick to the spelling used by Viz as well?)
Anh_Minh
2007-08-07, 13:26
Speaking of Jean and teamwork, I'd like to mention something about last weeks episode.
I don't think Jean should be leading a team right now. I belive she is still traumatized by what happened to the last team she lead, the one Riful and Dauf wiped out. She put all of her energy into covering the other members, like Waspinatior said.
Well I wonder just where this weeks episode will leave off.
Meh. Don't believe that AB. I'm sure Jean did the best she could, but her team just wasn't strong enough to deal with a male Awakened Being.
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-07, 13:28
I like how they draw Isley, shorter hair, less feminine face. But the scene where Raki grabbed Priscilla's boob is a little bit cheap in my opinion, I don't remember that from the manga.
Yes that part was in the manga as well, it was kinda humerous :p
Kazidoom
2007-08-07, 13:29
She is called Uma actually. The Japanese only pronounce the name wrong. Viz uses that spelling as well and for once I agree with them :heh: (Is eclipse going to stick to the spelling used by Viz as well?)Who the hell would be called "Horse"? I hope Eclipse is using Yuma.
Uma Thurman for example ;) It doesn't mean horse, it's not a Japanese name.
IMSabbel
2007-08-07, 13:34
Who the hell would be called "Horse"? I hope Eclipse is using Yuma.
You noticed the distinctive lack of japanese names in this anime?
Yuma wouldnt fit in at all...
Here, on local translation...
Youma = Demon like on Claymore
Youkai = Demon like on Inuyasha
Eh? Who else lost an arm? Are you saying you like Yuma :D?
Some people have a sense of Uma.
Kazidoom
2007-08-07, 13:47
Uma Thurman for example ;) It doesn't mean horse, it's not a Japanese name.The Indian version? Well I suppose it's a bit more acceptable. A character named after a plant doesn't bother me as much. But horse is still stuck in my head. If I see Uma I know I'm going to read it as "Horse lost her arm!" xD
Here, on local translation...
Youma = Demon like on Claymore
Youkai = Demon like on Inuyasha
Youkai (Spelling) = Okay? :)
And they have problem with our "R". Right sound ight...
Key Board
2007-08-07, 13:59
they didn't change the story, relax
The Indian version? Well I suppose it's a bit more acceptable. A character named after a plant doesn't bother me as much. But horse is still stuck in my head. If I see Uma I know I'm going to read it as "Horse lost her arm!" xD
Yes the indian name. They usually pronounce it "Yuma" in Japanese, maybe because its mostly known thanks to Uma Thurman, so they pronounced it in an english way. And possibly uma meaning horse doesn't help either (eventhough "horse" is a quite normal character in Japanese names) ^^; Me too I always called Uma Thurman "Yuma" XD
Tempest35
2007-08-07, 15:06
*can't stop laughing at Defiled One* Ahhh, sorry man but...*falls laughing again*
...Miria sent everyone to their deaths and ran for her piece of Raki action... *rolling now*
*wipes eyes* Ahhh, okay, I'm better now. :D And 'Yuma' sounds much cuter than 'Uma' so I'm sticking with pronoucing it with the 'y'.
As for the AB that Team Jean faced - that's the smartest AB of the three - of course he's going to pick them apart. And he's got six arms - 6 arms vs 5 Claymores - he wins.
About the Yuma - Uma issue, it reminds me of an old saying:
"Damned if you do, damned if you don't".
Itachi-evil
2007-08-07, 15:51
Horray:D.
New Priscilla >>> Old Priscilla
witchking99
2007-08-07, 16:48
WTF!!! Hey!! Itachi-evil how come you gave the episode a very miserable 1 in rating, can you explain that? Is that some sort of a bad joke or something. :mad::mad::mad:
oh this time not ..... Nevermind...
NoSanninWa
2007-08-07, 16:57
WTF!!! Hey!! Itachi-evil how come you gave the episode a very miserable 1 in rating, can you explain that? Is that some sort of a bad joke or something. :mad::mad::mad:
It probably is a joke. And I find it a funny joke. The ratings are pointless. I'll give the episode a 2 and hope others will help to give the episode at least one vote for every numeral. Yay, let's vote for integers!
witchking99
2007-08-07, 17:02
It probably is a joke. And I find it a funny joke. The ratings are pointless. I'll give the episode a 2 and hope others will help to give the episode at least one vote for every numeral. Yay, let's vote for integers!
I don't believe this, now NoSanninWa gave it a 2. :twitch::twitch::twitch:
What is the world coming to anyway.I think I'm gonna have a heart attack
Tempest35
2007-08-07, 17:06
I call '6'! :D
I'm becoming so restless, all because of this one episode. :uhoh:
Defiled one
2007-08-07, 17:14
Itīs The Priscilla Curse!;_;
Damm it...........
But i love it, too :)
Itachi-evil
2007-08-07, 17:16
Ofc it is a joke that i gave it a 1 out of 10!
How could i possibly hate my current top-anime:heh:
NoSanninWa
2007-08-07, 17:35
And I for one appreciate the joke. :D
I call '6'! :D
Sice Sety already claimed 3, does anyone want to call dibs on 4-5? I figure that 7+ will be occupied by real votes.
Kazidoom
2007-08-07, 17:37
I got 4! Now who can handle voting a 5 to one of their favorite shows? It's the ultimate test of courage. :heh:
NoSanninWa
2007-08-07, 17:39
Then once each number has been picked once, we can see if we can get them all picked TWICE! :D
i got 7.... pah 7+ is for actual votes!? nah, it isn't! because i clicked it =)
Then once each number has been picked once, we can see if we can get them all picked TWICE! :D
Haha, the wacky things we do while waiting! :heh:
I gave it a five. Really, those screenshots I saw looked below average.
7 out of 10 : Good 1 9.09%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 9.09%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 9.09%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 9.09%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 9.09%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 9.09%
1 out of 10 : Painful 1 9.09%
i love the %s
Negativedark
2007-08-07, 18:08
I gave it a 6, dispite the fact I won't be seeing the episode, while listening to Iron Maidens Number Of the Beast. I also listen to that song while reading 666 Satan.
Does that one screenshot mean Priscilla appears in her awakened form in this episode?
Screenshots of ep19 on Wrexgrafix (http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/):D
Why are ratings 1, 2, 3, 4... in a claymore ep. o_O!!!!!! are jokes or is a really bad episode o_O!:twitch:
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-07, 18:29
I call 8, to the above poster, yes people are just screwing around with the rating of the episode :P
IMSabbel
2007-08-07, 18:33
It probably is a joke. And I find it a funny joke. The ratings are pointless. I'll give the episode a 2 and hope others will help to give the episode at least one vote for every numeral. Yay, let's vote for integers!
Then why do you even create the episode threads with a poll?
And btw, its not called "joke", but "threadshitting" or "trolling". For a very good case example, visit the IMDB entry of _any_ movie rated in the top list, and view the votes. There will always be more zeroes than1-3 combined. Same for the messageboards...
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-07, 18:44
My primary concern of this episode after seeing those screen shots and reading the commentary is, how much did they change between the anime and manga?
and
and how are Priscilla's and Isley's voices?
witchking99
2007-08-07, 19:11
I can let pass a couple of phrases in the dialogue and some of Helen's wacky faces, but leaving out entire scenes which in this case is not just one but 2 (I won't mentioned the other one yet) is a complete alteration of the story.Somethings you can tolerate but others you can't.:mad::mad::mad:
Bikerider
2007-08-07, 19:29
what ? no Flora Clare sword battle ??
WHERE'S THE ZERO ON THIS POLL ???
Bonta Kun
2007-08-07, 19:32
Does Cynthia show up?? does she get ample screen time??!
going by how some others are voting, I'm gonna vote on how much screen time Cynthia gets:p
zato_1one
2007-08-07, 19:37
What's happen with the voting? :twitch:
I'm pretty sure that that missing scene will be in next episode. According to episode preview, next episode is still The Northern War III. Producers must use it to extend this arc or else they won't have enough material. IMO.
I thought they just re-arrange scenes a little because it's cooler to end episode with the re-appearance of "you know who".
By the way, the screen shot looked pretty dark. :eyebrow:
witchking99
2007-08-07, 19:55
YEAH!! Come on people lets vote this ep. to HELL!! keep voting 1 or 2. I regret to have voted 10, is there any way the mods can eliminate my vote so I can vote again, this time truthfull to my opinion on this ep.:p:p:p
Goofus Maximus
2007-08-07, 20:54
About the Yuma - Uma issue, it reminds me of an old saying:
"Damned if you do, damned if you don't".
You say to-MAY-to, I say to-MAH-to... Really either way is fine, since they both sound the same if you say it fast...
zato_1one
2007-08-07, 21:17
I can feel the discrimination here. Why did people pissed only Flora's scene? Undine's scene was also omitted in this episode, you know? :heh:
From next episode preview, who do you think Jean has pointed her sword to? ;)
Panzerklein
2007-08-07, 22:09
Cythia is not cute like in manga :(.
joshualimm
2007-08-07, 22:11
1's 2's and even 5's for this episode? Well, I can understand people having some fun, but what I can't stand is those who rate an episode down just because it lacks/alters scenes that were initially in the manga. If you're a manga reader and you feel bad about it, that's understandable, but please rate the show on its own merits. For someone who has not read the manga before, this episode was as great as the previous ones.
But since I'm not that "someone", I'll personally give this show a 1 if they screw up the "見事だ" bit... that is IF the anime reaches there. Yep, I'm a hypocrite, but at least I try hard to keep it to a minimum. :D
Tempest35
2007-08-07, 22:15
Cythia is not cute like in manga :(.
We have to give leeway to that since they made Jean almost hawt in her eps before this. In Claymore, if you're a cutie pie, you die (or Awaken)
It's funny that everyone's voting out of wack, especially since I know that most of us haven't seen the ep yet. :cool: :D As to why are we doing this : WE'RE BORED!!! AND OTAKU!!! BEING BORED AND BEING OTAKU MEANS THAT VERY STRANGE THINGS CAN AND WILL HAPPEN!!! :D
Negativedark
2007-08-07, 22:58
Like debates on how Jet Jauguar could feasably beat Legion. Or how Sasuke keeps getting so many chicks. Or what the chances any of the Claymore charecters have accedently kissed while training.
By the way, did Priscilla appear in her awakened form in this episode?
episode isnt out anywhere yet. I'm honestly not expecting much out of this. I think ep20 will be disgustingly good though
I don't recall Raki ever seeing those swords in the snow. I now have a feeling that the anime might diverge from the manga near the end.
We have to give leeway to that since they made Jean almost hawt in her eps before this. In Claymore, if you're a cutie pie, you die (or Awaken)
It's funny that everyone's voting out of wack, especially since I know that most of us haven't seen the ep yet. :cool: :D As to why are we doing this : WE'RE BORED!!! AND OTAKU!!! BEING BORED AND BEING OTAKU MEANS THAT VERY STRANGE THINGS CAN AND WILL HAPPEN!!! :D
LOL That reminds me of those anime conventions!
The Anime begins to create his own Claymore Universum....
Well since no one called it ill get 5 and complete the set. :D
Flora20709
2007-08-08, 00:12
Ok umm.....mmmmm...mmmmm No Clare Flora fight *votes 1 on poll* :heh:
I wonder where they're going with this. I'm not sure i'm liking this. The Raki appearance is too soon.
EasyPrey
2007-08-08, 01:00
The Anime begins to create his own Claymore Universum....
I agree. Manga readers should be especially careful in divulging out "facts" not covered in Anime. It is possible[1] that Anime might completely diverge from Manga and benign comments by Manga readers might wound up spoiling Anime only viewers. So please be careful.
-EasyPrey
[1] I have no inside information from Madhouse. Hence, this is only conjecture on my part.
Flora20709
2007-08-08, 01:14
Well Fellow Claymore Fans i didnt really mean 2 vote 1 on the poll i just felt like to :o
Justice Knight
2007-08-08, 01:36
they remove the scenes and they deserve painful vote...
Here's a piece of information which unfortunately is NO joke:
By now, not a single Claymore Raw has appeared on any source. Not Share, not Winny, not BT. None. WRex doesn't count, because he captures his own raw (I've talked to him before)
In other words, after 13 hours, there's nothing to work on. Which means that this episode's release will be delayed by around one day, assuming that the cappers eventually get their heads out of their... well, those places where the sun don't shine ^_^;
I don't wanna sound too ungrateful, but I don't get it. This is a highly popular show which regularly breaks 100.000 torrent downloads. And yet, there are nearly no cappers?
My my my...
Here's a piece of information which unfortunately is NO joke:
By now, not a single Claymore Raw has appeared on any source. Not Share, not Winny, not BT. None. WRex doesn't count, because he captures his own raw (I've talked to him before)
In other words, after 13 hours, there's nothing to work on. Which means that this episode's release will be delayed by around one day, assuming that the cappers eventually get their heads out of their... well, those places where the sun don't shine ^_^;
I don't wanna sound too ungrateful, but I don't get it. This is a highly popular show which regularly breaks 100.000 torrent downloads. And yet, there are nearly no cappers?
My my my...
maybe the airing of ep19 was delayed or something?
but ya i'm pretty grateful to the people that cap episodes. It's something that's a pain to do and i dont think anyone really show gratitude for it.
Omni at Random Curiosity just got the screencaps up (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/08/08/claymore-19/) though...
Yea, but Omni didn't get it from a source we can use. Darn.
And no, the episode was not delayed.
Deathkillz
2007-08-08, 04:46
the raws are a bit late though >.<
Omni at Random Curiosity just got the screencaps up (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/08/08/claymore-19/) though...
zomg raki is back O.O Priscilla and Isley has some explaining to do on what they are plotting >.>
killer3000ad
2007-08-08, 04:58
Yea, but Omni didn't get it from a source we can use. Darn.
And no, the episode was not delayed.
It's a conspiracy I tell you. The Illuminati are behind this. They want to gauge how long it will take before people start dying from not peeing while continuously refreshing the source pages.
Tempest35
2007-08-08, 06:00
They better not wait too long or else a contingent of Male Claymores shall suddenly show up outside their 'secret base'. :insert evil laugh:
I was hoping it was out since everyone seem to know so much about the episode. Finally thought I found it and stayed up til I'm dead tired so I could watch it when it finished downloading. But guess what....what I downloaded was a porno...... :mad::mad::mad: TIME TO PASS OUT! It better be out and even subbed when I wake up! My mind can't rest at ease until I watch 19!
Itachi-evil
2007-08-08, 06:43
If this anime got 26 episode for sure, it will be definitely different from the manga then:uhoh:.
Something like Gantz anime vs. manga then:rolleyes:.
It's a conspiracy I tell you. The Illuminati are behind this. They want to gauge how long it will take before people start dying from not peeing while continuously refreshing the source pages.
I already talked to them, and they claimed full responsibility. Which means that it was not their plan or fault in the first place, they're just confusing feeble minds.
5 Minutes ago (!) the first raw appeared. Gawd curse them.
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 07:29
Itīs The Priscilla Curse!!
witchking99
2007-08-08, 07:34
I already talked to them, and they claimed full responsibility. Which means that it was not their plan or fault in the first place, they're just confusing feeble minds.
5 Minutes ago (!) the first raw appeared. Gawd curse them.
Is that really true Mentar or are just trying to confuse the "feeble" minded again? :eyebrow:
killer3000ad
2007-08-08, 07:36
I already talked to them, and they claimed full responsibility. Which means that it was not their plan or fault in the first place, they're just confusing feeble minds.
5 Minutes ago (!) the first raw appeared. Gawd curse them.
I guess they were true watching the mice die from hyper-formed kidney stones. Hmm.... I wonder if they were satisfied with what they saw.....
I just registered to say that I think messing with the votes is a very CHILDISH thing to do. This is not funny. When I first visited this thread I saw a lot of 1's and 2's and I thought that Madhouse totally screwed up the episode. :mad:
Also, to the people who voted 1 only because they didn't show the Clare-Flora confrontation.. guys, it's quite likely that they moved that scene to the following episode! It's just STUPID to vote a 1 because they didn't follow the manga page from page.
Maybe you think the voting system is useless, but I find it interesting. It's a measure of how the fans perceived a particular episode. If you don't feel like voting, just leave it alone! That is all I wanted to say.
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-08, 08:42
They also killed the Deneve and Undine interaction.
and
This means less Deneve back story and character development as well, which quite frankly is rare, and also gives us a peak into Deneve and Helen's past.
So it is also more important then people give it credit for, the Flora vs Clare scene does have the potential to show up later, but it lost its build-up. :upset:
God, oh God! Raki got really, seriously screwed this time! :D
Not only he will find Priscilla and Isley in the city (probably after a "meal"), but he even saved her from a crumbling building! Now Clare will not talk with him for a month! :p
He's a youma bait, indeed! But why they did'nt ate him? Maybe they already got guts enough and will guard him for later? ;)
Priscilla obviously finds him tasty, with her "you smells so good" line.
*PRISCILLA TALKING TO CLARE*
PRISCILLA: "I'm seriously thinking in eat your 'wife' "...
:D :D
Good and bad news for Clare:
The good news is, regarding her main objetives, she can hit two rabbits with just one strike.
The bad news is, exactly that! :p
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 09:10
They also killed the Deneve and Undine interaction.
and
This means less Deneve back story and character development as well, which quite frankly is rare, and also gives us a peak into Deneve and Helen's past.
So it is also more important then people give it credit for, the Flora vs Clare scene does have the potential to show up later, but it lost its build-up. :upset:
Forget it...it will not follow the manga..Iīm certain. :mad:
Forget it...it will not follow the manga..Iīm certain. :mad:
I only take the quote to introduce this posting, it ist not direct answer for Defiled One, it goes to all.
Okay, dear Manga readers. Don't destroy the Anime only Viewers the fun. And let them be, Peace. From now on, the Anime will not follow exactly 80-90% the Manga.
Even if we post some things, that they left out. It's a Spoiler. Because the Anime only viewer cannot check this. You are killing the curiosity of him/her.
And to give this Episode a Vote 1. Well, its you free will. But, then accept my reason for it. Because they left some "unnecessary" Scenes out (Because of Budget or for Episode 20?). You give it an 1? It's this really necessary. "This is mine","No this is mine", "Liar!. This is mine not yours"."You are the lier!, this belong to me". "You freak, this is mine".......... You get my point? :)
But, if you need some Valve to let steam inside you out. There is a thread only for Manga and..... You know the rest. Beware, enter and your curiosity will and i mean WILL be crushed.
Now it's your choice. But i prefer one calms down. And hope for Ep.20.
to admins: I hope i didn't cross again, with no mean to it, the line...
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-08, 09:35
Dont forget that alot of us are Manga readers to begin with, so it is impossible for us to judge the episode without looking at the source material.
and those scenes are far from "unneeded", unless you count important character development as "unneeded" that is.
For the record I did not give this episode a 1, i gave it an 8, due to the fun some people were having earlier with picking out numbers :D
and those scenes are far from "unneeded", unless you count important character development as "unneeded" that is.
I know, and i angry myself. That they left some scenes out, or changed them. But, if we continue to "whining" (sorry for that, but i just fit right now :)), then the non-Manga fan, will feeling, looking an uncompleted anime. Or censored.
You get my point? :). Let us both enjoy this anime.
Leben und leben lassen
HSeeker25
2007-08-08, 10:21
They left out the flying UFO that went beamzors on the AB, blasphemy !!
Just something i noted...
Priscilla looks exactly like she was when a Claymore, except some years younger and without silver eyes and hair.
So maybe Awaked ones go back to their original appearance, before turning into hybrids? I allways though they just assume any human appearance they want.
OMG from the looks of this it appears that my worst fears have come to pass claymore FILLER will soon integrate itself into this series.
and once again
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO:upset:
OMG from the looks of this it appears that my worst fears have come to pass claymore FILLER will soon integrate itself into this series.
Er... what?
Filler?
What the heck are you talking about? :)
witchking99
2007-08-08, 10:52
This is another example of why no anime series is perfect, not a single one.:(:(:(
Itachi-evil
2007-08-08, 11:12
Well what should they do in your opinion if they run out of the source, since the manga is too slow?
witchking99
2007-08-08, 11:27
It is very simple, they should just speed up the manga. Damned lazy bastards!!! They should wake up and start drawing new chapters quickly.:frustrated::frustrated::frustrated:
What's the whole ruckus? Kindergarten time today?
The way I project the episodes, the anime will end just at the end of the current manga chapters. None of this is filler. Are you all feeling a bit weird today, or what's the whining all about?
Deathkillz
2007-08-08, 11:48
havent really been up to date but any news of a S2?
as for this ep i just watched...
zomg those awakened ones got their asses kicked badly...though i think its mainly due to them underestimating the claymore army...but the end is really interesting ~ raki better not fall in love with clare's enemy T.T
What's the whole ruckus? Kindergarten time today?
The way I project the episodes, the anime will end just at the end of the current manga chapters. None of this is filler. Are you all feeling a bit weird today, or what's the whining all about?
At the speed the manga is going and by comparison the speed of the anime it is clear that unless the manga seriously picks up in speed that filler will indeed be evident in the anime starting later on in the series. I merely point this out now, I'm not suggesting there is filler in the current episodes.
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 11:55
What's the whole ruckus? Kindergarten time today?
The way I project the episodes, the anime will end just at the end of the current manga chapters. None of this is filler. Are you all feeling a bit weird today, or what's the whining all about?
Itīs the Priscilla curse. Iīm not kidding, people were pissed when Teresa got her head off in episode 8 because of Priscilla and now that she appears the whole fans are going crazy!
:uhoh: Priscilla is brainwashing us!!
Good Point, and an hint from me...
Look very closely to the ep.20 Preview at the end....
But this is the thread for Ep.19....
MGF = Metal Gear Flora :)
kageyame
2007-08-08, 12:11
At the speed the manga is going and by comparison the speed of the anime it is clear that unless the manga seriously picks up in speed that filler will indeed be evident in the anime starting later on in the series. I merely point this out now, I'm not suggesting there is filler in the current episodes.
You seems to be totally lost here, the anime so far is intended to have only one season, in that regard, we have 5 to 7 episodes left to finish the whole series, there's no need for "fillers", (fillers are used for long series with a truckload of episodes, when you can make 10 or 20 episodes and then pick up the history again, but in Claymore case, it would be better just create another series altogether.
And no, I don't want that the author "speed up" the manga (I.E. going weekly), that would only mean a drop in quality, and god know we already have enough mega-monster-multi-episode-series out there.
It's better that the manga keep it's pace, it's being good so far, so stop complaining... :p
Seems like somebody forgot that this anime ends at episode 26. Fillers? In Claymore? What in the world are you guys talking about!? Wasn't it obvious all along that they were going to end this anime at the end of the Northern Campaign?
Tempest35
2007-08-08, 12:14
About Priscilla: Can't we all just get along?
Clare, Teresa, Irene, Noel, Sophia, and Ophelia : NO!!!!
:heh: In that case, it's unanimous...
Got some really nice Deneve shots in this episode so I'll be looking forward to Justice Knight's avatars on this ep.
And Jean makes an excellent bodyguard, but not a good vanguard. This episode kinda cements that. But if all she had were scrub Claymores to begin with who had no special abilities that could be used easily in battle, then yeah, I can see why her team went down so easily...
Itīs the Priscilla curse. Iīm not kidding, people were pissed when Teresa got her head off in episode 8 because of Priscilla and now that she appears the whole fans are going crazy!
:uhoh: Priscilla is brainwashing us!!
Even worse, Raki is getting screentime again! And with HER!! All the Raki-haters out there are surely having a hard time now. :D
Just a thought i got....
Teresa was a killing-machine Claymore without emotions. She got loli-Clare, became a murder but even so, everyone got to love her more than ever. (myself included) :p
Clare was cold. She got Raki, and we get to see more and more of her nice side.
Priscilla is a murderous monster. She is getting Raki now. That means she will start to change into someone nice, too? What will happen to Clare's reveange?
WE WANT JUSTICE FOR OUR TERESA!! :frustrated: :frustrated: :frustrated:
About Priscilla: Can't we all just get along?
Clare, Teresa, Irene, Noel, Sophia, and Ophelia : NO!!!!
:heh: In that case, it's unanimous...
Surely is. :p
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 12:19
The awakened were scouts. Stupid in trying to get the cake all alone. Seriously, would they really be that capable of awakening them all without the loss of lives?
Guess what..They were wrong.
That`s how the Burning legions works....Face assimilation or extinction.
So, Isley seems a nice fella...
No one can beat Priscilla. This is one of those animes in which being good or bad doesnīt matter...You still get beaten by Priscilla. The Abyssals are literaly walking Gods. Riful received a clean cut in the head that could kill any claymore or awakened that we knew so far but...Did she bleed? Did she even showed pain? No...
Power can be achieved by anyone, the problem resides in getting that power and being responsible for it.
dutchman
2007-08-08, 12:19
Finally watched the raw. And even with some alterations a thrilling episode. I think some of the missing scenes will be in the next episode.
Maybe the director thought that it would make more sense to make some slight changes in the chronological order. Anyway normally I rate after the sub however I need to counter the rating terrorists :-)
So I give a perfect 10 which of course doesn't help since a lot of people have voted also a ten but forgot to add a zero.
So, Isley seems a nice fella...
Yeah, but why he is not a shota?
Strangely enough, all the male A.O. are adults, but all the female A.O. are lolis.
Maybe male A.O.s are lolikons? :p
Yeah, but why he is not a shota?
Strangely enough, all the male A.O. are adults, but all the female A.O. are lolis.
Maybe male A.O.s are lolikons? :p
Yup...
"Konbawa Pieta, and Sayonara"...
he make a pause, after he cached an "Loli girl", that was saved from Miria.... :9 There you got your Proof :)
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 12:34
Well..in medievel times it was known that men, liked young girls for marriage....bordering in to the age of Clare...but let us not go there.
So...you know what I mean cause you know it.
Priscilla isnīt a loli, sheīs at the same age she was when she.....killed teresa.
You seems to be totally lost here, the anime so far is intended to have only one season, in that regard, we have 5 to 7 episodes left to finish the whole series, there's no need for "fillers", (fillers are used for long series with a truckload of episodes, when you can make 10 or 20 episodes and then pick up the history again, but in Claymore case, it would be better just create another series altogether.
And no, I don't want that the author "speed up" the manga (I.E. going weekly), that would only mean a drop in quality, and god know we already have enough mega-monster-multi-episode-series out there.
It's better that the manga keep it's pace, it's being good so far, so stop complaining... :p
I realize what your saying, but the way this is going the anime will pass by the manga before it finishes. this will either mean extending the series which you said wont happen OR the anime will go in a different direction than the manga. Either way it is still depressing.:(
Kazidoom
2007-08-08, 12:43
I realize what your saying, but the way this is going the anime will pass by the manga before it finishes. this will either mean extending the series which you said wont happen OR the anime will go in a different direction than the manga. Either way it is still depressing.:(
I think you're misunderstanding something. Right now there's still manga material left to use but the problem is that it's not enough for another season. Since the Claymore anime can't go on to 52 episodes right now they're stopping at 26. Meanwhile manga will last for about another 5 years and that's when they'll (hopefully) make part two. There won't be any fillers.
zato_1one
2007-08-08, 12:43
Don't know why but I want Raki x Priss :naughty:
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 12:48
Well considering what I know about Priscilla...Then again, what the hell do I know about her?
I'm afraid that Priscillia is actually her...not sure, but it usually hints that her apperance looks like her from the last we've seen her. Maybe the awakening ones have the ability to control their appereance whatever they like to be. Child or an adult either way.
Considering how great of a manga > anime adaption this has been and still is.. a few scenes cut here and there is really not the end of the world.. especially if there's still a chance for them to be included next week and if the episode is still good. So I don't understand the whining, but oh well. (not to referring to every manga reader here, as I do understand stating that they're out and how it's a shame, just referring to the whiney posts)
Anywho... who's Isley/Easley's seiyuu? :3
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 13:04
They seem kinda of nice...I mean...We were told about massacres made by Priscilla in Ophelia village...her brother was eaten alive by the so called one horned demon.
Even the Org ponders when they talk about her....I mean not even with the current top 5 and the rest of cannon fodder they seemed willing. And that includes the Abyssal Lords.
I mean is the the Priscilla that slaughtered villages, literaly feasting on everything that moved?
Where does this stupid rumor come from? Who says that the anime is going to end at the end of the Northern Campaign? By now it's obvious that it's NOT going to end there.
Just extrapolate the remaining episodes with the current speed, and you'll find out that the anime will end pretty much EXACTLY where the manga is right now. We'll catch up and end it there. No fillers, just normally caught up.
Is Raki will turn out to be an awakening one someday once Priscillia or Iseley do something with him? :heh:
Just extrapolate the remaining episodes with the current speed, and you'll find out that the anime will end pretty much EXACTLY where the manga is right now. We'll catch up and end it there. No fillers, just normally caught up.
It's posibble, it may end up as a cliffhanger and start the 2nd season. Who knows.
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 13:09
I think he is dead. From what clare and the others say, Priscilla is a horrible thing that is beyond morality and remorse...Or was it the fans talking :heh:
Is Raki will turn out to be an awakening one someday once Priscillia or Iseley do something with him? :heh:
Raki will become snack for Isley and Priscilla, I'm sure.:D
I think he is dead. From what clare and the others say, Priscilla is a horrible thing that is beyond morality and remorse...Or was it the fans talking :heh:
morality and remorse are for stupid humans, she beyond that so who gives a damn how many she's eaten or who it was.
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-08, 13:18
Now that I have seen the entire episode, they stuck in a lot of extra stuff, which kinda makes it odd that they cut out so much. Looks like the Flora scene may be next episode by the end preview, not sure how they will do the Undine scene though.
As for Priscilla; well lets just say your confusion over the way she is acting is because of ommited scenes from earlier episodes :p
Glad I gave this episode an 8, the overall episode was good, but the scene transactions were poorly done, and they made half the characters look like they had the Flash-Sword :confused:
Not worthy of the 1s that several people gave it, but I dont think it was worthy of the 10s either.
ritalman
2007-08-08, 13:20
The animator didn't pay much attention to details this time it seems. Undine holding Deneve's sword when she's down in front of the AB? Holes in the uniform that are sewed back as good as new 5 seconds later?
Even though it was an enjoyable episode (TOO SHORT!!! as always) I didn't like the adaptation of Undine/Clare/Deneve's fight against their target.
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 13:22
No one knows why she acts like that, not even the god-like manga readers know.
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-08, 13:25
No one knows why she acts like that, not even the god-like manga readers know.
We have a pretty good idea thanks to Riful's info.
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 13:27
No we donīt.....It was weather ballon if you know what I mean...there is nothing wrong!!
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-08, 13:28
Lol, if you say so :p
I'll stick with the obvious theory though, enough about the Manga though.
They gave us some pretty good shots of the other Claymore's faces this time around, and I agree, some of them are no where near as cute as the Manga :D
SilverEyedLionKing
2007-08-08, 13:33
I liked this episode for the most part... I guess my chief complaint is the quality of the still art. Some of the faces didn't look that good.
One other thing, Raki's fateful encounter is slightly different from the manga. It's going to be interesting to see what else is different in the next episode when the preview indicates that Mr. you-know-who is practicing with R's sword out in the open at night.
Defiled one
2007-08-08, 13:35
PS: By logic..when a hot bishounen appears...and has long hair...he might not be strait...Just pointing out the logic of anime. That might be one explanation for why Easley didnīt do anything....but I donīt know.
Warning....he is also an Albino...Albinos are known to be a little, thatīs another to be taken in consideration.
after reading the manga for the first time, it seems like we are far from the end. Is there going to be a season 2? I enjoyed watching claymore and was be pleased if there was!
after reading the manga for the first time, it seems like we are far from the end. Is there going to be a season 2? I enjoyed watching claymore and was be pleased if there was!
It's sort of blurry.
I mean take, for example, Berserk. It's been 10 years since the end of the anime, and the manga until now is still going on.
Up to this date there is now enough manga material available to come up with a second season to Berserk, but it has never come to materialize.
If the manga-ka for Claymore keeps his rate of publishing one episode per month, then we would have to wait for about six years so enough manga material comes available to get season 2 going, but chances are faint slim for that to happen.
Anh_Minh
2007-08-08, 14:24
Well, a 13 episodes Season 2 in three years could be possible... One can dream, anyway.
Itachi-evil
2007-08-08, 14:24
after reading the manga for the first time, it seems like we are far from the end. Is there going to be a season 2? I enjoyed watching claymore and was be pleased if there was!
I don't think so or atleast they haven't announced it yet:rolleyes:......
Oh, the preview for episode 20, we will see some major differences to the manga know.
I think it is good that they will follow another path in the anime.
It will be somewhat stupid to follow the manga, so good decisision!
Hmm really? I didn't notice how slow the manga releases were. So, can we expect a real ending or a decent one then? I enjoyed the manga, it had a lot of growth and progression in it at this point in time where the anime is at.
*looks at the votes* :heh:
So this is what happens when Claymore fans don't get their scheduled fix because of late raws. :p
Artwork was slightly off at times in this ep.
The 3-way battle was a bit disappointing, I didn't feel like it lived up to the build up from last week.
The most interesting development of course, was Raki's meeting with Easley and Priscilla. Things could get very complicated if Raki befriends them and stands in Clare's way for revenge.
NoSanninWa
2007-08-08, 14:59
havent really been up to date but any news of a S2?after reading the manga for the first time, it seems like we are far from the end. Is there going to be a season 2? I enjoyed watching claymore and was be pleased if there was!
Please stop asking! There is barely enough manga to make a season 1! At the rate that the mangaka writes (1 chapter a month) there won't be enough material for a second season for another 5-6 years. Ask again in 5 years. Until then please don't join the many voiced chorus of people who simply don't know that it is going to take 6 years for Yagi-sensei to write another 12 volumes of manga.
The only way you can hear news of a S2 is if Madhouse decides to create an entirely original story that has nothing to do with the Claymore manga.
There are currently 13 volumes being turned into anime. Yagi-sensei has said that the eventual length of the manga is going to be 25 volumes.
There are 6 chapters in a volume, he writes at a rate of 1 chapter per month. That means he'll finish enough manga for another season in 72 months. 72 months = 6 years. Be VERY patient!
Hmm really? I didn't notice how slow the manga releases were. So, can we expect a real ending or a decent one then? I enjoyed the manga, it had a lot of growth and progression in it at this point in time where the anime is at.We'll know just as soon as you do. Once episode 26 airs we will discover if the ending r0x0rs or sux0rs.
There are currently 13 volumes being turned into anime. Yagi-sensei has said that the eventual length of the manga is going to be 25 volumes.
There are 6 chapters in a volume, he writes at a rate of 1 chapter per month. That means he'll finish enough manga for another season in 72 months. 72 months = 6 years. Be VERY patient!
And who knows how many months he'll dedicate only to writing the extra side stories instead of the main storyline. Maybe he's working on them at the same time but only publishing the extras for now?
As for episode 19, the art wasn't that bad. I'm just disappointed how Flora somehow no longer looks like Flora without that sad/shy expression. :uhoh:
Good god, I hope that this series doesent end with a cliffhanger from hell like Code Geass:twitch:. I dont want this to be one of those 6 year work in progresses, it would be better if madhouse would create a separate series from the manga.
Please stop asking! There is barely enough manga to make a season 1! At the rate that the mangaka writes (1 chapter a month) there won't be enough material for a second season for another 5-6 years. Ask again in 5 years. Until then please don't join the many voiced chorus of people who simply don't know that it is going to take 6 years for Yagi-sensei to write another 12 volumes of manga.
The only way you can hear news of a S2 is if Madhouse decides to create an entirely original story that has nothing to do with the Claymore manga.
There are currently 13 volumes being turned into anime. Yagi-sensei has said that the eventual length of the manga is going to be 25 volumes.
There are 6 chapters in a volume, he writes at a rate of 1 chapter per month. That means he'll finish enough manga for another season in 72 months. 72 months = 6 years. Be VERY patient!
Good! I got my calculations right about the exact time it would take one to wait for enough manga material to become available.
But for those asking about Claymore season two that ain't happening.
xVxObliVioNxVx
2007-08-08, 15:54
Good god, I hope that this series doesent end with a cliffhanger from hell like Code Geass:twitch:. I dont want this to be one of those 6 year work in progresses, it would be better if madhouse would create a separate series from the manga.
I am hoping for a cliffhanger ending, kind of like that of the Berserk anime. It only will make you want to go and pick up the manga to see what happens next. And that is a good thing in my opinion.
I liked this episode (much more than the last ones). The fights were well done but the whole talking always takes too much time :heh:
Now, Cynthia's voice is more mature and cooler than Flora's - I had imagined them exactly the other way round :D
And please, I can only agree with Seska - don't reveal scenes that weren't included this week, this time the chances are actually really high that it will be included next week
eventhough they showed Raki at the end, the events in Pieta are just before the Flora and Undine stories, so they still fit perfectly. And Flora at the end of the episode is quite an obvious indication for at least that part to be included.
They probably simply showed Raki earlier because that is a much better way to end an episode that was almost finished with something that makes you curious.
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-08, 16:13
Heh, did not stop them from cutting out scenes in earlier episode, or in episode 16's case, a bad place to cut an episode :P
But I am now willing to wait for next week to pass judgement, so I am done :p
yes, but at least this time a see a much higher possibility than the last times, especially with that last shot of Flora :)
Some things from me about Raki's screen time:
In Pieta are now 24/25 Claymores. The Numbers 1-5 are not there, that makes 29/30 Claymores. We have still 16/17 Claymores in active duty.
Perhaps Raki found an reckon Claymore group of these 16/17 remain ones, in a different city....
(Manga readers, hold your Horses....)
Well, this is my explanation to pull the strings back to line, after the "Postings" of frustration ...
Well, enjoy the Anime.
Negativedark
2007-08-08, 16:44
I think he found the swords of the group that was wiped out by the large group of awakened.
Some things from me about Raki's screen time:
In Pieta are now 24/25 Claymores. The Numbers 1-5 are not there, that makes 29/30 Claymores. We have still 16/17 Claymores in active duty.
Perhaps Raki found an reckon Claymore group of these 16/17 remain ones, in a different city....
Don't forget, Eva(#7) and her team were killed, three members of Jean's team were killed in the previous arc, if you count Opelia. 8 Claymore were lost in a short period of time. Not sure the Org can replace them, especially #4 & #7 high rank. Of course there are trainees, but..........:heh:
Besides #1- #3 & #5, and the 24 claymores in Pieta, there are only 11 claymores left.
Itachi-evil
2007-08-08, 16:53
Ah.........Priscilla is so sweet with her new hair!!!!
When i first watched the anime and saw Priscilla with the hair and so on i tought of her as quite annoying.
Now i think she hase become more prettier!, also her face and her body:heh::love::love::naughty::bow::bow:
Raki you damn kid! How dare you touch Priscilla!!!!!!:frustrated::upset::frustrated:
Ah.........Priscilla is so sweet with her new hair!!!!
When i first watched the anime and saw Priscilla with the hair and so on i tought of her as quite annoying.
Now i think she hase become more prettier!, also her face and her body:heh::love::love::naughty::bow::bow:
Raki you damn kid! How dare you touch Priscilla!!!!!!:frustrated::upset::frustrated:
We get another chance to bash Raki, hehe.:D
Archmagination2002
2007-08-08, 17:02
I don't like this episode.. they are starting to cut out subtle details that detracts from the series. Most of the stuff they have cut out in the previous episodes I think worked well, the last couple of episodes(Episode 18 was okay though) they have been cutting out key elements to the story.
In Pieta are now 24/25 Claymores. The Numbers 1-5 are not there, that makes 29/30 Claymores. We have still 16/17 Claymores in active duty.
Perhaps Raki found an reckon Claymore group of these 16/17 remain ones, in a different city....
Just to mention a few claymores including #7 were wiped out in pieta beforehand as well so they shouldnt be counted as on "active duty", but they could very well be the owners of the swords raki found.
NoSanninWa
2007-08-08, 17:10
I am hoping for a cliffhanger ending, kind of like that of the Berserk anime. It only will make you want to go and pick up the manga to see what happens next. And that is a good thing in my opinion.
I quite agree with you. Viz's manga releases will catch up to the end of the anime in another 8 months and they'll catch up to the Japanese manga shortly after that. Considering how available the manga is in this country I see no downside to letting the end of the anime boost the its popularity.
I think he found the swords of the group that was wiped out by the large group of awakened.That would mean someone buried them. I wonder who? (Obviously there are two candidates, though it would be oddly interesting if they did.)
hmm I just finished watching it and did not notice anything left out that does not belong in next episode.
I guess you can nit pick the animation in the 1st half a bit but I was still happy with it...
anyways, looking forward to next week lol
Flora20709
2007-08-08, 18:13
Wow The Subs Just Came out after watching the Raw episode like 4 times trying to figure out wat there saying >.<
Thank you so much for a speed sub, Eclipse!
Wow, Priscilla appears again and is it just me or does she look like she lost her memory? At very least, she doesn’t seem that she knows what she is doing and needs someone to take care of her. How did this happen to the invincible Priscilla?
But, wow, Raki x Priscilla? I never thought of that possibility but this author really is creative. :D I kind of like that actually, something unexpected. And she likes Raki! If Raki can manage to make her fall in love with him, I will change my opinions on Raki. :) Of course, he will have to love her just like she does. But I don’t know if she likes him as a person or as dinner. Who knows? This isn’t an easy task, you know.
the long haired dude's VA sounds so familiar.
holy plot twist, what the heck happened to gut eating super awakened being pris. more importantly, why didnt she eat raki's guts the minute he was grabbing her.
But, wow, Raki x Priscilla? I never thought of that possibility but this author really is creative. :D I kind of like that actually, something unexpected. And she likes Raki! If Raki can manage to make her fall in love with him, I will change my opinions on Raki. :) Of course, he will have to love her just like she does. But I dont know if she likes him as a person or as dinner. Who knows? This isnt an easy task, you know.
.... Raki
.... / .. \
Clare -- Priscilla
My God, this amorous triangle will be the most dangerous ever since Ryoko and Aeka from Tenchi Muyo! :D Forget the catfights, that will be a demon fight with guts flying all over the place!
Poor Raki don't know what he's got into... :p
*Imaginating*
(((Sounds of swords clashing and meat ripping)))
CLARE: Bitch!!! :frustrated:
PRISCILLA: You cow!! :frustrated:
RAKI: Huuuhhh... girls... please stop! :eek:
HELEN: Hehehe... Chance!! :D
It was a pretty good episode. I dislike some of the deviations from the manga though. They like leaving out little tidbits of info/interactions that flesh out the characters and expand on the Claymore world.
Flora team's AB fight just seemed wrong and overdone for the sake of making it as long as possible.
At least they kept the Helen/Deneve thing in.
Watched the episode now.
Priscilla... Kawaii :love: :love:
Like Riful, she is more than a little girl.
This episode is one with more diferences from Manga, but good changers.
PS: Raki hentai... :p
Rotton the Wizard
2007-08-08, 20:27
Damn, how did Raki manage to walk into that situation? His luck is absolutely terrible (except with the ladies :D).
I think my favorite scene this episode is the teamwork between "spiral power" Jeane and Monkey D. Helen, along with the the other claymores fighting that AB. It seemed that more of the weaker claymores got to help with that battle as opposed to the ones in Clare's fight. Jeane is now starting to become one of my favorite characters in Claymore.
I'm also really impressed with the pacing of the fights in claymore. I somehow thought that this fight would take 2 episodes, but wow that was quick. I guess I got used to the fact that if this were any other shounen show the fights from this ep would probably last at least 3 episodes.
.... Raki
.... / .. \
Clare -- Priscilla
*Imaginating*
(((Sounds of swords clashing and meat ripping)))
CLARE: Bitch!!! :frustrated:
PRISCILLA: You cow!! :frustrated:
RAKI: Huuuhhh... girls... please stop! :eek:
HELEN: Hehehe... Chance!! :D
lol @ Helen's line :D
xVxObliVioNxVx
2007-08-08, 20:32
I am more then happy with how this episode turned out. The entire episode was just screaming with awsomeness. 10/10 from me. Even if ithe episode didn't stay true to the manga, the episode was great in its own rights, and that's the way I perfer to judge it.
And Raki is becomming quite a pimp. First Clare, then Ophelia, and now Priscilla. He is just playing with fire now.
Flora20709
2007-08-08, 20:39
Anyway This Ep Was Good
Well I can say raki is uber lucky XD xD XD {He is quite a pervi sage}
I Wonder why we have so people voted 1 >.< :o
Flora20709
2007-08-08, 20:58
Well Im a Manga Reader I Know It Miss Some Key Points
But It STill doesnt derserv such low ratings
i think there just joking
astrallionheart
2007-08-08, 21:01
Average rating so far is 7.05...
A bit of a messy episode =\
The monsters looked ridiculously bad too.
About low rating votes... see the firsts posts of this topic. :)
Panzerklein
2007-08-08, 21:15
Aweful after all, I vote 5.
I like Udine a lot better now. She just pretends to be tough and actually, she really cares for her comrades. What can I say, these claymores, really hard to find bad ones (or ugly ones)!
Jean needs to twist her arm faster than that or she will always run out teammates in any battle. Maybe she should just stay with Clare, Helen, Deneve, Galatea and Miriam because they are probably the only ones that can buy time for Jean and not get hurt, much.
Will be interesting to see how Flora reacts to these half-awaken beings.
I just finish watching the Sub and saw the Raw last nite on Nico. I am not sure I am happy with the change they made. Now make me wonder how they are going to end the season.
Jechtsphere
2007-08-08, 22:03
Priscilla likes Raki alright...she'd like to eat him thus the line saying "You smell good"
6/10 manga fighting scences are way better than the anime. Serious they need to get new artist for the anime, the drawing are terrible.
Haruyasha
2007-08-08, 22:58
I must say....
Priscilla looks rather hawt...
whitepearl
2007-08-08, 23:19
The Awakened Beings did look goofy (one of them looked like a fish to me) but it didn't detract too much. I also noticed a scene from the manga that may have been left out but I hope they include it next week...
Still a 9 in my book.
My thoughts. (http://thepottybox.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/claymore-episode-19%e2%80%94the-war-in-the-north-part-2/)
grey_moon
2007-08-08, 23:35
OMFG the world will end, one of my predictions for Claymore might actually come true!!!
Can't remember how long ago, but I think I went and said something along the lines of what if Priscilla gets her hands on Raki and I can't remember the rest. But she actually has got her hands on him.
When I first saw Priscilla I thought, hmm she looks familiar and then started thinking, don't get distracted by the two bishies Raki, and then the bloke said out her name I was *shock*. So does that make the bloke the dweller of the deep? Why didn't they eat him? She did say he smelt nice, thinking about it now if she is the horny priscilla from before, that makes that statement sound a wee bit scary.
So many questions, I can't wait for the next epi!
Out of all the Claymores I think I like the facial design of Flora the most, with Miss Claymore second. But for overall character I still like Clare and Terese the most.
SeijiSensei
2007-08-08, 23:36
I was a bit surprised the name Priscilla didn't ring any bells for Raki. Did Clare really spend all that time with him and not mention the story of Teresa and Priscilla once? Given Clare's current obsession with Priscilla it seems a bit surprising that she wouldn't have mentioned those events to Raki at all.
Of course, there are many women named Priscilla. Just thought he might have shown a bit more reaction when her named was spoken.
Like a couple of other commentators here, I found the fight sequence rather uninspiring. I expected it to last longer and be more difficult. The animation was pretty unimpressive as well. Dauf seemed a tougher opponent than these three.
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-08, 23:39
Well I doubt Clare is the type to go around telling her tragic past to people she befriends, even if Raki did travel with her, I doubt she would tell him something that personal. Raki technically doesnt even know about awakened beings.
grey_moon
2007-08-08, 23:40
I was a bit surprised the name Priscilla didn't ring any bells for Raki. Did Clare really spend all that time with him and not mention the story of Teresa and Priscilla once? Given Clare's current obsession with Priscilla it seems a bit surprising that she wouldn't have mentioned those events to Raki at all.
Of course, there are many women named Priscilla. Just thought he might have shown a bit more reaction when her named was spoken.
She doesn't seem to be the most talkative person... And some people do bury away bad experiences, I know I do, I hate talking about them, even though I might be working to prevent them again.
Xellos-_^
2007-08-08, 23:59
I am kinda disappointed by Isely's va. I was hoping for Char or Griffen's va. seducing young girls are their specialty.
Wonder if the animators made a mistake...look at the symbol on Undine's 2nd sword:
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8771/undine2ndsworddp6.jpg
Ha, and he is back, older and scarred. Now what will Clare do when she sees Raki's new friend is the one she is after.
Also, either one of the pair will die or Raki will turn Claymore. He grows alot faster while Clare doesn't.
Flora20709
2007-08-09, 00:33
well i wish i could answer that but it might be a spoiler
Just Watched The Subs ......Well I think Undine is somewhat similar to Jean because they both wanna protect there fellow claymores so they dont get hurt even tho Undine shows it in a rude way
As for Deneve she is a very good teamate so calm and cool :heh: well she just might be my {3}fav claymore well thank the claymore writer for making her............................
FlareKnight
2007-08-09, 00:38
Maybe as an anime viewer the only thing I was unhappy about was the lack of Miria action. Just see her taking down the guy with a slash at the very end. Of course just shows how powerful she is if using just her team which doesn't have much in terms of strength aside from her takes down the awakened one.
Some good teamwork with Veronica's team holding off the opponent for Jean. Always handy to have some help so she can get her shot in on the opponent. They worked pretty well and Helen's ability was quite useful in keeping that guy restrained while Jean did her thing. Pretty surprised actually to find out there were no casualties in this battle. Sure Jean's team especially got injured enough to be out but apparently no one died this time around.
Clare and Deneve cut it close with going to the awakened point with all the forces around but everything seemed to be finished off pretty well. Undine really is one of those power her way through anything type. Was losing track when the FS was being used since it seemed a lot of characters were swinging really fast. A bit more diversity in that animation would help.
And the question of Dauf seeming to be a tougher opponent, probably because he is. I mean powerful projectiles, power, and incredibly hard defence made him really tough. I'd sure hope that Riful's 'man' would be stronger than a few scouts for Isley.
And seriously shocked with Priscilla showing up. Seemed a hair colour change was enough to throw me off. Then we have Isley just waltzing up. Raki sure knows how to get himself into a ridiculous amount of trouble that's for sure. I don't think him getting eaten is a big concern right now. I mean it's not like they need to eat all the time. People have pets, just because you can eat them doesn't mean you will. At any rate pretty surprised to see this situation taking place.
Bikerider
2007-08-09, 01:17
I saw that about Undine's second sword too. I wondered for a moment why she had Clare's sword.
maian330
2007-08-09, 01:17
Animation wasn't that great this time around. To be specific:
- Some things in manga just don't translate well into anime, like Cynthia and Veronica talking in midair before dealing the final blow. More of a timing issue instead of animation issue, but the end result is the same.
- I agree with whoever said that everyone seemed to be using quicksword. Lazy ass animators. Heck, in the scene at around 5:50 where Clare is attacking the AB apparently without using quicksword, her animation is repeated at least 6 times.
- Clare and co's battle just seems too disjointed, if that's the word. For ex, Clare is doing quicksword on the AB in one scene (11:00), and a couple seconds later (11:06), the camera is panned over the AB watching Deneve jump, and Clare is nowhere in sight.
Honestly though, since there was a whole bunch of action going on here, the lack of quality is somewhat forgivable.
I'm not sure I liked some of the things they changed from the manga. The AB Clare and co were fighting against was specialized in Yoma manipulation, yet the anime didn't show off his ability to cause others to awaken, which I thought was a really cool and devious ability. In addition to that, there was no scene where Flora realizes that the sheer number of Clare's attacks are preventing the AB from using Yoma manipulation. Without that info, it just seems to me that the AB is being stupid, not using his ability more often.
However, I did like how the AB tried to get the 2 weak Claymores to kill each other, as opposed to forcing them to awaken as in the manga.
I also kinda like what they did with Raki. In the manga, he's a wimp. In the anime, well, he still is a wimp. But at least he doesn't get captured by slavers. The anime version makes his character a bit more redeemable in my eyes.
6/10 manga fighting scences are way better than the anime. Serious they need to get new artist for the anime, the drawing are terrible.
Erhm, excuse me, but I need to disagree with that.
Example: In the manga, the scene where the AB tried to make Clare and Deneve awaken made no sense whatsoever, everything came completely out of nowhere. In fact, I rechecked the chapter before to make sure that I didn't accidentally skipped over pages. The anime version had a logical sequence, with C+D being "caught", but releasing Yoki to break free. Likewise, were you able to figure out Jean/Helen's finishing combo from the manga? I wasn't, at least not with certainty. In the anime, no problem.
Also I don't understand the bitching about the animation. In fact, unlike several other chapters, this one contained several nice and interesting new shots.
Solid 8 in my book.
parrywrinkle
2007-08-09, 01:22
That's a great analogy. Raki as a pet.
I like how this episode begin with a bang and finishes with a cliffhanger.
Gave it a 9. I've seen worse animation. Seriously, they're doing a rather good job already.
toxic_trance
2007-08-09, 01:22
I definitely loved this episode...and frankly..i feel the action was done pretty well. Flora's drawing was still off mark..but i think this episode deserves a 10. The episode was well placed..the action was real real nice..u could feel the tense atmosphere the Claymores were in.
@Sci-Fi..its not Clare's sword..the symbol is upside down. It is the upside down version of Clare's symbol
Haruyasha
2007-08-09, 01:31
Wonder if the animators made a mistake...look at the symbol on Undine's 2nd sword:
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/8771/undine2ndsworddp6.jpg
I doubt it. Clare's is reversed.
- Some things in manga just don't translate well into anime, like Cynthia and Veronica talking in midair before dealing the final blow. More of a timing issue instead of animation issue, but the end result is the same.
Exactly!! In the manga it works well, in the anime it doesn't. But can you blame them for sticking too close to the manga :heh:
Likewise, were you able to figure out Jean/Helen's finishing combo from the manga?
Yes, without a problem. :)
But usually fighting scene are easier to follow in an anime, because you actually see the moves and it's all in color, so easier to distinguish.
While in the anime you understand what is going on easier, the fights didn't have the same impact on me. Simply because these are manga fights that don't translate so well onto screen. The timing worked much better in the manga. In my opinion, anyway.
Omfgbbqwtf
2007-08-09, 01:54
Well, Really good episode. I personally think they did a good job at the fight scene, but Miria's fight scene is way too short.
I like the way they animate "The Man" with the long hair. I think he looks way too feminine in Manga. When i was reading the manga, I thought he was a woman.
TinyRedLeaf
2007-08-09, 01:57
This episode was better overall than the previous one, in my opinion. I'm curious why they decided to omit what I thought is a crucial element in Undine's battle agains the AB. Leaving it out, I have no idea how they are going to develop Deneve's relationship with Undine later -- the animators will probably have to invent something new.
As for being impartial -- you know, all I can say is that it's because I'm trying as hard as I can to judge the anime on its own merits that I remain unimpressed by the animation. It's not bad, but it's not great either. And it's all still so dark! Well, I suppose the Northlands are probably similar to the land of the midnight sun, so it's just our bad luck that the Northern Campaign is unfolding during Pieta's six-months-long night. :heh:
8 out of 10.
Some people say that guy is too feminine in the anime, others say he is too feminine in the manga :eyespin:
Tinyredleaf: Well, you have a Serei no Moribito avatar, so ... after seeing that series you will never be impressed again with a series animated like Claymore, no matter how much you try ;) But! the DVDs seem to be less dark, maybe a lot of the darkness is due to it being captured from TV.
I was a bit surprised the name Priscilla didn't ring any bells for Raki. Did Clare really spend all that time with him and not mention the story of Teresa and Priscilla once? Given Clare's current obsession with Priscilla it seems a bit surprising that she wouldn't have mentioned those events to Raki at all.
Of course, there are many women named Priscilla. Just thought he might have shown a bit more reaction when her named was spoken.
Like a couple of other commentators here, I found the fight sequence rather uninspiring. I expected it to last longer and be more difficult. The animation was pretty unimpressive as well. Dauf seemed a tougher opponent than these three.
Also.. remember the fact that Raki never met nor know any humanified AB :D
Actually, he did >.< during Oppychan arc >.<
Thought .. 1 thing after seeing Raki.. Its gonna be an anime original ending no doubt >.<
Tinyredleaf: Well, you have a Serei no Moribito avatar
Unfair!! No series came close to ep 3 SnM fight scene ever! .. Nor do any other scene in particular too.. that series are too epic on its own >.<
Anh_Minh
2007-08-09, 02:41
@Sci-Fi..its not Clare's sword..the symbol is upside down. It is the upside down version of Clare's symbol
Yes. Meaning it's Deneve's symbol.
I realized that Undine actually refers to herself as "atashi", the most feminine way of saying it :heh:
also, Info on the name Priscilla (http://www.behindthename.com/php/search.php?nmd=n&terms=priscilla&submit=Go):
In Acts in the New Testament Paul lived with Priscilla and her husband Aquila in Corinth for a while.
replace with "Raki ... Priscilla ... Isley ... in the North" :D
I saw that about Undine's second sword too. I wondered for a moment why she had Clare's sword.
Might be Deneve symbol. Her symbol is an upside down version of Clare's.
wpnsiu86
2007-08-09, 03:50
much better episode. i think the animation is slightly better, and the fights were well done. While some parts from the manga have been omitted, I think they will be shown in the next episode. but of course, flora's voice still puts me off. And i think she's still drawn quite badly, compared to the manga. still this is an excellent episode.
Might as well omit the entire battle scenes and replace with stills. While I prefer AB's more unique designs, ever since Claymore retried the yomas, battles have become very DBZ-esque, ie, repeatitive and pointless swings of arms with absolutly no apparent point. They are AWFUL.
Battling AB so far consists of basically chop chop chop chop to no effect, power up, then chop chop chop to kill. I can understand this (sort of) vs Duff who's rather powerful and looks like the tank type, but against every AB? They are powerful, which doesn't mean they are just immune to damage, but should be faster, stronger as well.
It is really hard to slot in dialogue in between battles, however battle feels even slower when half the time characters remain motionless while move their lips.
"Likewise, were you able to figure out Jean/Helen's finishing combo from the manga? I wasn't, at least not with certainty. In the anime, no problem."
That was Exactly the point in the manga, the author intentionally portrayed a losing battle, using Jean's personality as a logical explanation for the 'fake' situation then surprises readers with a twist, aka the combo at the end (Seriously, doing Jean's 5...6..routine more than once in the series is overkill, if I wanted to see sailormoon transformation scenes or robots combine, I'll go pick up a series from the 1980's) . Why would you read a book when the ending is known from page 2?
Sometimes, I feel as if Claymore anime has been dumbed down for mass consumption. By making the anime easier to digest, the 'director(which I seriously doublt his/her expertise)' destroyed much of suspense the mangaka tried so hard to craft. In fact, only the battle vs Ophelia was done well compared to the manga(which was the worst in the manga incidentally).
Likewise, the anime version has consistently omitted the deeper layer of dialogues. Where's the part that developed Geneve as a character after Flora's explanation? That part fleshed out Geneve and Flora in one stroke, yet was omitted.
That's exactly what I mean by the fights in the anime lack impact ^^; But they seem to work for other people ... can't please everybody >.<
The mind control yoma was armored. If his head was squishy it would be retarded. So them having a hard time hurting him like they did with douph makes sense.
The bee was not tough at all but it was a pain to land a hit on him because he was fast and had a ton of arms.
The whip yoma was like between armored and speed... which did him little good against miria lol.
Comparing those 3 to Douph is horrible. Number 3 and claire could not beat him. It took 3 of them working as a team to take him down. Douph would destroy those 3 monkey scouts in seconds. Not to mention the ONLY similarity was that ONE of those 3 had very strong armor.
Also, let's not get all worked up about that "missing scene" until next ep.
Same with Raki... who knows how he got there. Not quite the same as the manga but who cares.
As long as the story remains largly the same the anime will do the manga justice. More so if you ask me.
Fenrir_valindri
2007-08-09, 05:41
They really did pick the worst of ways to extend the fight scenes, as I said earlier, it appeared half the Claymores could do Flash-Sword in this episode, they also exagerrated the armor of the AB that Deneve and company were fighting, he never got hit that much in the manga, and when he did he definatly expressed his dislike of it.
Jean's rotations are portrayed as painfully slow in the anime as well, while in the manga it was more interesting and suprising to see she had gotten herself ready while fighting the AB (while in the anime she was standing there and twisting while everyone else was getting owned).
I am still shocked by how much they downgraded Mr.Yoki-control in the anime, he was quite scary if you actually stopped to think about it in the manga.
by the way, seeing Flora use so many polite expressions again this episode and adding -san to everybody really makes me wonder, just what was Viz thinking when they made her say "Shut up you lot" :frustrated:
Have to admit, Isley is looking rather awesome --- and i'm glad to see that this show shall be going interesting (yay preview) in a way we've haven't seen yet. I can't wait to see more of him.
This is the worst episode thread to date. 5 pages of people complaining how such and such was absent in the anime, effectively spoiling it for viewers if it comes up in later episodes. Then we have immature morons voting for 1's just because they think they're clever and funny. It's like visiting the NarutoFan forums.
Impossible to discuss the anime without references to the manga? Rubbish. Just show some restraint and not saying anything. If you are incapable of accomplishing this feat then just post your opinions in the manga section.
*ahem*
This was an OK episode, nothing too groundbreaking in my opinion. I still think the Flash Sword animation is lacking. Hopefully there will be some character development in the future, as simply introducing new characters don't make them interesting.
Just how strong Miriam is now? Clare has become even stronger than no. 8, the wind cutter Flora. Remember when they both want to stop that awakening being’s yoma power controlling to save Cynthia and the other girl from chopping off each other’s heads, Clare was so fast that Flora didn’t even get a change to draw her sword and she is the “wind cutter.” Yet, Miriam is much stronger. Maybe enough to take down no. 1?
Itachi-evil
2007-08-09, 07:12
Ehm, well i don't want to spoil you.
But you are wrong.
Just wait for the next episodes, then Flora's technique will be perhaps explained.
She executed her "wind cutter";)
Fruitfly
2007-08-09, 07:14
I still think the Flash Sword animation is lacking.
Flora's windcutter looked faster than Clare's flash sword. It doesn't even look that shes drawing her sword. I guess if Clare was as fast as Ilena, than there would be no animation at all except a bunch of blood spilling everywhere :uhoh: Also thought the flying head that wouldn't land a bit weird.
Great episode nevertheless. I gave it a 10.
Fights were great and I can't wait for the next episode to see what Flora is up to
Tempest35
2007-08-09, 07:19
Clare's not as strong as Flora just yet. She can vie for the same position but it's at a standstill as with the Noel/Sophia duo - the difference is too close to call.
@ Riful
You can be mean as hell and still use polite speech. :) Makes it even more mean. Now it really seems as though Flora is a bit younger than most of the others girls.
And I'll put Miria as being strong enough to take on Claymore Ophelia in a stand-up fight. If she wins or not, that's on her. :heh:
Anh_Minh
2007-08-09, 07:23
Just how strong Miriam is now? Clare has become even stronger than no. 8, the wind cutter Flora. Remember when they both want to stop that awakening beings yoma power controlling to save Cynthia and the other girl from chopping off each others heads, Clare was so fast that Flora didnt even get a change to draw her sword and she is the wind cutter. Yet, Miriam is much stronger. Maybe enough to take down no. 1?
They actually both diced half of the AB's head.
If they ever need filler, they'll have them duel on Iron Chef. The theme: Youma stew.
zato_1one
2007-08-09, 07:27
Might as well omit the entire battle scenes and replace with stills. While I prefer AB's more unique designs, ever since Claymore retried the yomas, battles have become very DBZ-esque, ie, repeatitive and pointless swings of arms with absolutly no apparent point. They are AWFUL.
Battling AB so far consists of basically chop chop chop chop to no effect, power up, then chop chop chop to kill. I can understand this (sort of) vs Duff who's rather powerful and looks like the tank type, but against every AB? They are powerful, which doesn't mean they are just immune to damage, but should be faster, stronger as well.
Well, why did they have to do hard thing if the basic move still has great and enough potential? Don't forget that Claymore isn't human. They have more power and more strength than any human. Just swing their sword normally can chop anything into piece. Except for some AB like Dauf who has thick armor. In that case, they just chop to buy time and make him lost concentration which can give a chance for final blow.
They fought to kill. They didn't come to play gymnastic or show the art of fighting to make them looked cool. IMO. And if I remember correctly this happens only to Dauf and the turtle in this episode. Others AB didn't have thick armor so their body will be cut if they were hit just like the grasshopper in this episode.
It is really hard to slot in dialogue in between battles, however battle feels even slower when half the time characters remain motionless while move their lips.
Yes. And people will complain again that the producer has omitted those dialogs.
"Likewise, were you able to figure out Jean/Helen's finishing combo from the manga? I wasn't, at least not with certainty. In the anime, no problem."
That was Exactly the point in the manga, the author intentionally portrayed a losing battle, using Jean's personality as a logical explanation for the 'fake' situation then surprises readers with a twist, aka the combo at the end (Seriously, doing Jean's 5...6..routine more than once in the series is overkill, if I wanted to see sailormoon transformation scenes or robots combine, I'll go pick up a series from the 1980's) . Why would you read a book when the ending is known from page 2?
I somewhat agree that seeing Jean tried to twist her arm was a pain. But looking in another way, how can you know that 5-6 or 10-12 rounds are enough? Even Jean herself might didn't know too. So it made sense that she try to twist her arm as many as possible to make sure that the plan will success. And that causes her to take times as usual. IMO.
The fighting in Claymore is fantasy not reality. I admit that I don't happy with just speed line and blur effect. But I don't have a problem if it fit with the series genre. Claymore is different with DB because its main concept is teamwork. Everyone can kick ass and also can be kicked too. :heh:
In anime, that turtle can just manipulate Yoki to control body but he seems cannot raise Yoki to create an AB just like in manga. I wonder why? :confused: May be the producer decided to lower his ability. Or else he will be too far dangerous to be just a pawn from Isley. IMO.
Itachi-evil
2007-08-09, 07:35
@zato_1one :
I remember that scene where Clare and Deneve wants to attack it.
But then they were controlled and forced to raise their yoma-energy.
That is what i see.
But unfortunately for the AB both are already half-awakened, so they can controll themselves better?
I don't know how they escaped the Yoki-controll of the AB. My only explanation would be that they both share the same thing, that is both of them are half-awakened.
Can't find another reason.
Tempest35
2007-08-09, 07:38
Their limits are a bit higher than normal.
I see it as like stretching out a balloon. First time you blow air into it, it's hard. Empty the air out and try again, it's not as hard since the balloon's already been stretched out that far already.
superzombie23
2007-08-09, 07:39
@zato_1one :
I remember that scene where Clare and Deneve wants to attack it.
But then they were controlled and forced to raise their yoma-energy.
That is what i see.
But unfortunately for the AB both are already half-awakened, so they can controll themselves better?
I don't know how they escaped the Yoki-controll of the AB. My only explanation would be that they both share the same thing, that is both of them are half-awakened.
Can't find another reason.
He couldn't control yoki that was that powerful, so he lost control, then the 2 claymores were able to attack.
@zato_1one :
I remember that scene where Clare and Deneve wants to attack it.
But then they were controlled and forced to raise their yoma-energy.
That is what i see.
But unfortunately for the AB both are already half-awakened, so they can controll themselves better?
I don't know how they escaped the Yoki-controll of the AB. My only explanation would be that they both share the same thing, that is both of them are half-awakened.
Can't find another reason.
No.. the turtle was expecting that they awaken.. once they awaken, their threat to him is 0.. So naturally, once he sense them awaken, he stopped .. unfortunately, they could return to their claymore self after awakening, so he kinda screwed :D
zato_1one
2007-08-09, 07:44
@Itachi-evil
Yes. But in anime, that AB said like this:
"You sure you guys wanna do that?"
"Releasing your Yoma power is fine, but at that rate you will awaken, y'know?"
I felt that both Clare and Deneve decided to raise their own Yoki. The AB didn't do that. :confused:
Anh_Minh
2007-08-09, 07:47
I think maybe the "limit" is still there. He - and all the other Claymores there - felt Clare and Deneve go over their limits, but, since they're half-awakened, they were able to control themselves.
It struck me when I watched the episode. Why did Clare worry? With her youki sense, she should have been able to tell that Miria was unharmed. It's not like they were that far.
^ Its called friendship ^^
Goofus Maximus
2007-08-09, 08:07
After thinking about it, I can live with the changes to the story, especially in the battle scenes. Hmmm. And Raki is a closet perv... :D
Anh_Minh
2007-08-09, 08:14
Oh, come on. You bump into a girl, whether it's by accident or in the process of saving her, of course you're going to land with your hand on her boob. It's, like, a physical law of anime.
Defiled one
2007-08-09, 08:23
I really doubt it was intended as perverted. Fanservice but not intented to please the fans..it`s Priscilla, she slaughters villages.
Priscilla behaves like she got hit by a rock in the head. A really big one....
Another thing....who the hell buried the corpses of the Claymores when Raki was trying to see who they were?
And why didn`t the Awakened attack Clare and Deneve when they were "awakening"? Are they trying to make them awaken or what?
Are they all gonna die?
Why is Miria condition agravatted?
Why...Why...Etc....etc...
Bonta Kun
2007-08-09, 08:28
Oh, come on. You bump into a girl, whether it's by accident or in the process of saving her, of course you're going to land with your hand on her boob. It's, like, a physical law of anime.
yep its one of the many laws of anime:p
Well I was satisfied with the ep. as I got to see my Cynthia get some screen time:love:
Since voting is out of whack alrdy, I'll vote 1 for the sake of it so its 1 closer to double figures:heh: btw all Claymore eps are brill in my book:p
FlareKnight
2007-08-09, 08:31
Certainly seems to be the norm. If you knock down a girl and don't feel her up a bit your just breaking the status quo. Raki has enough to worry about without upsetting the anime gods :).
Definitely one of the more criticized episodes in recent memory. Almost forgot for a moment I actually enjoyed watching this one :heh:.
I don't know. When I saw the opponent for Jean's team and especially when Veronica's team came to help it seemed clear what was going to happen there. Perfect opponent for her striking ability.
At least I felt the fish-head AB was pretty dangerous with that ability. Certainly could force the majority of the team members to fall back since you couldn't get too close without risking it. Getting a view of the supped up version of Galatea's ability and the problems it could create.
On the burying of bodies. I guess its possible Isley had a hand in it or sent orders to have it done. I mean could have enough respect for the enemy to give them a burial. Not like they are humans to eat so can't hurt to clean up things a bit. Either that or some good samaritan showed up to handle the task.
Fruitfly
2007-08-09, 08:32
Priscilla behaves like she got hit by a rock in the head. A really big one...
It looked like Priscilla was going to take Raki, fatten him up, and eat him.
She thought he smelled good (and maybe delicious)
Clare better hurry
grss1982
2007-08-09, 08:34
LOL.
Isley's VA is the same one who does the voice for Ichimaru Gin in Bleach. :)
I'm now expecting Isley to say "bye-bye" like the Bleach Omake. :heh:
Btw, who are the VA's for Cynthia and Veronica????
witchking99
2007-08-09, 08:39
Priscilla seems to act oblivious to all the things happening around her, as if the terrible things she's done never happened.She puts on such an innocent face it's disturbing.I see her with such a face and it almost makes me feel sad for her, I don't know why.I guess that is Proscilla's charm or curse.
Defiled one
2007-08-09, 09:02
^ Maybe...she didnīt knew that she awakened when she decapitated Teresa in a awesome manner. Ophelia only realized it when she saw herself...
Priscilla could try to amend what she did and saw raki as an oportunity to amend herself, even if itīs just a little...or he just smells nice and she likes to have a pet.
Abyssals do not behave as Awakened. Awakened behave as stupid and stoned fellas that smack everything for the fun of it, eat until you canīt, drink until you canīt...hump until you can`t....
Abyssals behave like people....except that they eat humans. I mean...a bunny can be a pet to itīs predator "Human"
parrywrinkle
2007-08-09, 09:03
Their limits are a bit higher than normal.
I see it as like stretching out a balloon. First time you blow air into it, it's hard. Empty the air out and try again, it's not as hard since the balloon's already been stretched out that far already.
I thought of something dirty when I read that.
Miho Miyagawa is Cynthia seiyuu and Akeno Watanabe is Veronica seiyuu.
godraziert
2007-08-09, 09:08
Thank goodness I've never read the manga . . . hence this episode was another pretty decent one to me. My only grouch was that everything seemed to look like the Flash Sword. More than the fights though, it was nice to have Miria's tactical decisions explained, showing her as a capable leader. And now that Raki has met up with Isley and Priscilla, things seem to be taking an interesting turn. Can't wait to see the next few eps now. :D
grss1982
2007-08-09, 09:09
I thought of something dirty when I read that.
Me TOO. :heh:
Anyways anybody notice that Priscilla looks a lot younger? :confused: I mean in the earlier episodes she was young but now she looks much younger.
Also, AB actually return to thier original hair color? :uhoh:
IIRC, Priscilla was blond when she was a claymore. In addition it might be safe to assume that since Riful was a former #1 that she had blond hair as well when she had'nt awakened yet. :uhoh:
witchking99
2007-08-09, 09:10
I doubt Priscilla could ever ammend for all the villages and lives she has detroyed.So much atrocities can never be forgiven.At the end I guess she will have to pay for all her doings, the question is when will that happen.I believe it will be many more years before Clare could be strong enough to finally pass judgement on her.
Itachi-evil
2007-08-09, 09:15
NO NEVER!!!!
Priscilla won't die, this God-for-Nothing boy Raki must protect her.
She is being used by Isley, don't forget that.
witchking99
2007-08-09, 09:17
NO NEVER!!!!
Priscilla won't die, this God-for-Nothing boy Raki must protect her.
She is being used by Isley, don't forget that.
Are you sure Isley is using her? Or is she using Isley? :eyebrow:
That is a difficult one to answer. :D
Anh_Minh
2007-08-09, 09:20
Isley isn't the one making her eat villages, her appetite is.
Forget it...it will not follow the manga..Iīm certain. :mad:
sad to know that they really might leave all those, we to me at least, important scenes out T_T
wasn't a bad ep and the whole power up thing between clare and deneve was nice along with the cut backs of jeane/helen and clare/deneve.
Itachi-evil
2007-08-09, 09:26
Are you sure Isley is using her? Or is she using Isley? :eyebrow:
That is a difficult one to answer. :D
Do you read the manga, if not well, i don't know if we will ever see it in the anime.
Ah, whatever.
witchking99
2007-08-09, 09:27
Isley isn't the one making her eat villages, her appetite is.
Precisely my point.Does Isley really feels attracted to her or does Isley sees her as big advantage over the other Abyssals, keeping her as a trumpcard in his plans for conquest.
witchking99
2007-08-09, 09:30
Do you read the manga, if not well, i don't know if we will ever see it in the anime.
Ah, whatever.
I have already read the manga but I can't comment on that here.
Me TOO. :heh:
Anyways anybody notice that Priscilla looks a lot younger? :confused: I mean in the earlier episodes she was young but now she looks much younger.
Also, AB actually return to thier original hair color? :uhoh:
I think AB return to their original form. And they are infected when very young. At least the females are. Perhaps the first experimental subjects were experienced warriors.
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