Romance in Code Geass (Take 2)

[yezhanquan]

I'm pretty sure I editted my posts and put spoiler tags on them. But oh well, I don't mind I guess if they got deleted.

Now I think Lelouch isn't going to end up with anyone. There isn't really any romantic moments with C.C. and Kallen. To me, they were more like sexy hot scenes for fanservice. I'm still hoping Kallen will end up with Suzaku.

That will really need some wicked (i.e. good) writing on the writers' part.

[Silver Soul]

I'm pretty sure I editted my posts and put spoiler tags on them. But oh well, I don't mind I guess if they got deleted.

Now I think Lelouch isn't going to end up with anyone. There isn't really any romantic moments with C.C. and Kallen. To me, they were more like sexy hot scenes for fanservice. I'm still hoping Kallen will end up with Suzaku.

Finally, there is someone out there who believes :D:D:D:p:p:p:cool::cool::cool:
but with 13 episodes left Suzaku will have to do something drastic to change Kallen's opinion of him and I'm not too sure people will be too excited but "a man can dream :)

[Ronin Aquila]

Right now, unless he does something really dramatically heroic, the only way Suzy-boy will be liked by anyone would be to go bungee jumping with the chord tied around his filthy little neck. :D

[yezhanquan]

Right now, unless he does something really dramatically heroic, the only way Suzy-boy will be liked by anyone would be to go bungee jumping with the chord tied around his filthy little neck. :D

Not quite true. Nunnally doesn't seem to have a bad opinion of him.

[Var]

Not quite true. Nunnally doesn't seem to have a bad opinion of him.

She knows he's been lying to her. She has suspicions concerning her brother. Sooner or later, she's going to put two and two together. And will likely come with Kallen.

[Silver Soul]

She knows he's been lying to her. She has suspicions concerning her brother. Sooner or later, she's going to put two and two together. And will likely come with Kallen.
Only to protect her for knowing the truth that her brother is infact Zero, how do you think she'll feel if she found out, as I recall Lelouch lies to people to protect them from danger as well and of all people why Kallen itsnot like she can trust her as much as Suzaku

[Ronin Aquila]

Not quite true. Nunnally doesn't seem to have a bad opinion of him.

That's because the poor little dear has not (figuratively and literally) seen what Suzy-Boy has become. :(

[yezhanquan]

That's because the poor little dear has not (figuratively and literally) seen what Suzy-Boy has become. :(

Agreed. Or... she's in self-denial.

[Var]

Only to protect her for knowing the truth that her brother is infact Zero, how do you think she'll feel if she found out, as I recall Lelouch lies to people to protect them from danger as well and of all people why Kallen itsnot like she can trust her as much as Suzaku

Is it better to lie to people or to reveal them the reality? Nunally does not strike me as someone who wants to be kept in the dark. Which is why she's been suspecting Suzaku. If she wanted to be left out of the loop, she'd never pick up on lies.

Suzaku's used her against her brother, how will that sound to her? If the reality of everything is revealed, Suzaku could easily find himself alienated from Nunally. It is fine to keep someone safe from the 'horrible truth' but when you use them to entrap their most beloved person, you'll find yourself on the recieving end.

[Silver Soul]

Is it better to lie to people or to reveal them the reality? Nunally does not strike me as someone who wants to be kept in the dark. Which is why she's been suspecting Suzaku. If she wanted to be left out of the loop, she'd never pick up on lies.

Suzaku's used her against her brother, how will that sound to her? If the reality of everything is revealed, Suzaku could easily find himself alienated from Nunally. It is fine to keep someone safe from the 'horrible truth' but when you use them to entrap their most beloved person, you'll find yourself on the recieving end.
Your hardly making a reasonable argument in that why would she decide to go to Kallen when she knows that her life will be in danger. And from what I see you want someone to tell her that everything Zero's done was to make a better world for Nunnally, so killing her half brother and sister was all for her. I won't excuse the fact that what Suzaku did was unforgivable but given the circumstances she's better off safe with him.

[orangejuicetang]

Well, Lelouch sort of lied to Nunually and didn't tell her that he was Zero. So would that make him just as guilty in Nunually's metaphorical eyes?

[Silver Soul]

Well, Lelouch sort of lied to Nunually and didn't tell her that he was Zero. So would that make him just as guilty in Nunually's metaphorical eyes?

They're both guilty one way or the other, but which one's the lesser of two evils

[Var]

Your hardly making a reasonable argument in that why would she decide to go to Kallen when she knows that her life will be in danger. And from what I see you want someone to tell her that everything Zero's done was to make a better world for Nunnally, so killing her half brother and sister was all for her. I won't excuse the fact that what Suzaku did was unforgivable but given the circumstances she's better off safe with him.


If she knows the truth, and she knows that Zero is in fact Lelouch, Kallen would be far more trustworthy, especially if she picks up on Kallen's own blatant attachment to Lelouch, than anyone else.

And it's not that I want someone to tell her, she herself wants to know what the hell is going on with the brother she has no seen in over a year and only heard a criptic message from. If you think she has no desire to know the truth, then you're lieing to yourself. She's had enough 'coincidental' development concerning Zero to have likely pieced together some sort of clue.

[orangejuicetang]

But does Lelouch want Nunually to know? Will he be happy if he finds out that Nunually knows that he is Zero?

[yezhanquan]

Can she handle the truth? That's a question I'll like to see answered.

[Silver Soul]

If she knows the truth, and she knows that Zero is in fact Lelouch, Kallen would be far more trustworthy, especially if she picks up on Kallen's own blatant attachment to Lelouch, than anyone else.

And it's not that I want someone to tell her, she herself wants to know what the hell is going on with the brother she has no seen in over a year and only heard a criptic message from. If you think she has no desire to know the truth, then you're lieing to yourself. She's had enough 'coincidental' development concerning Zero to have likely pieced together some sort of clue.

She deserves to know the truth I'm worried about how she would handle it, she seems emotionally strong but that's my assumption

[Var]

But does Lelouch want Nunually to know? Will he be happy if he finds out that Nunually knows that he is Zero?

He can't hide it forever. It's a fact that has to eventually find its way to her, whether it be by intent or not.

She deserves to know the truth I'm worried about how she would handle it, she seems emotionally strong but that's my assumption

She's never been portrayed as a weak minded character. She is mentally strong, unlike Nina.

[yezhanquan]

She's never been portrayed as a weak minded character. She is mentally strong, unlike Nina.

Given her physical status, the writers better give her some mental fortitude.

[Ronin Aquila]

She deserves to know the truth I'm worried about how she would handle it, she seems emotionally strong but that's my assumption

It takes an emotionally strong girl like Nunna-chan to still be so kind and sweet after losing her legs, eyesight and mother in one foul swoop.

At any rate, I personally think though she is nowhere as ingenious, Nunnally-Chan is definitely a more emotionally stable inidividual that Lelouch. ;)

[yezhanquan]

It takes an emotionally strong girl like Nunna-chan to still be so kind and sweet after losing her legs, eyesight and mother in one foul swoop.

At any rate, I personally think though she is nowhere as ingenious, Nunnally-Chan is definitely a more emotionally stable inidividual that Lelouch. ;)

Note also that she doesn't have to bear the strain of organising a rebellion.

[Silver Soul]

Note also that she doesn't have to bear the strain of organising a rebellion.

She's still a more strong minded and selfless individual compared to her brother

[orangejuicetang]

It takes an emotionally strong girl like Nunna-chan to still be so kind and sweet after losing her legs, eyesight and mother in one foul swoop.

At any rate, I personally think though she is nowhere as ingenious, Nunnally-Chan is definitely a more emotionally stable inidividual that Lelouch.
Though I do remember reading somewhere that she isn't really blind or disabled, but just that after the shock she refuses to open her eyes or use her legs.

[Var]

Though I do remember reading somewhere that she isn't really blind or disabled, but just that after the shock she refuses to open her eyes or use her legs.

It's a condition that results from immense shock. I do believe she is actually crippled, due to being shot there.

[yezhanquan]

She's still a more strong minded and selfless individual compared to her brother

I grant you that. In R1, Lulu went from one extreme to another.

[orangejuicetang]

It's a condition that results from immense shock. I do believe she is actually crippled, due to being shot there.
That's probably true. I don't exactly remember what I read.

[Var]

That's probably true. I don't exactly remember what I read.

I do not specifically remember either, but her legs were pretty badly hurt after the ordeal. I'd imagine she'd come out crippled from that even with the best technology.

[Silver Soul]

I wonder what Guildford said to Suzaku about being Euphie's former Knight had anything to do with Nunnally

[Ronin Aquila]

Though I do remember reading somewhere that she isn't really blind or disabled, but just that after the shock she refuses to open her eyes or use her legs.

The nerves in her eyes ceased to function due to the emotional shock, and would not process information even if she did open them.

The bones in her legs are severed and shattered by the half a dozen or so 9 millimeter bullets that riddled them when she was seven, and has never properly developed since then. :(

Either way, it is not out of self-deluded choice that Nunna-Chan is the way she is now.

[Var]

I wonder what Guildford said to Suzaku about being Euphie's former Knight had anything to do with Nunnally

I think it was more an allusion to Cornelia, who knighted Suzaku, making him her knight as well.

[orangejuicetang]

The nerves in her eyes ceased to function due to the emotional shock, and would not process information even if she did open them.

The bones in her legs are severed and shattered by the half a dozen or so 9 millimeter bullets that riddled them when she was seven, and has never properly developed since then. :(

Either way, it is not out of self-deluded choice that Nunna-Chan is the way she is now.

You might be right about the legs, but I'm pretty sure that her eyes were fine and she simply chose not to open them anymore. How would the nerves in eye cease to function due to emotional shock? I would have been blind when I was still a naive little boy and first discovered the internet, and clicked one of those links with words I didn't understand... and wished I could forget everything I saw right after.

[yezhanquan]

I think it was more an allusion to Cornelia, who knighted Suzaku, making him her knight as well.

Cornelia and Suzaku.... Ok, brain not working properly.

[Ronin Aquila]

Unless any of us has had his or her mother shredded by bullets while holding onto him/her and still come out blase and emotionally cold, I don't think sarcasm actually is either relevant or constructive in this case, or even have the RIGHT to be sarcastic towards anyone, real or ficional, who has had emotional trauma as such.

[bladeofdarkness]

Unless any of us has had his or her mother shredded by bullets while holding onto him/her and still come out blase and emotionally cold, I don't think sarcasm actually is either relevant or constructive in this case, or even have the RIGHT to be sarcastic towards anyone, real or ficional, who has had emotional trauma as such.


actually while nanali got the short end when it comes to injuries
lulu spent the next 8 years doing his best to complitly shield her from any hardship he could
to the point of carrying her on his back while walking in a field of dead body's and pretanding that its nothing (when he was 10)
that scene alone should point out just how much
a)he cares for her
b)just how fucked up his childhood was

small wonder he seems cold

[yezhanquan]

actually while nanali got the short end when it comes to injuries
lulu spent the next 8 years doing his best to complitly shield her from any hardship he could
to the point of carrying her on his back while walking in a field of dead body's and pretanding that its nothing (when he was 10)
that scene alone should point out just how much
a)he cares for her
b)just how fucked up his childhood was

small wonder he seems cold

I was thinking that Nunnally actually knows a lot of the stuff which Lulu is trying to hide her from (That example of a field of dead people: What, no smell of blood?). She appreciates her brother's protection, but she has an idea of how bad things were, if she paid attention (and I believed she did).

[ZeroSama]

I was thinking that Nunnally actually knows a lot of the stuff which Lulu is trying to hide her from (That example of a field of dead people: What, no smell of blood?). She appreciates her brother's protection, but she has an idea of how bad things were, if she paid attention (and I believed she did).

To be fair it's not suprising with all the things that happened that she acted like that. They were pretty close before, but the whole incident with there mother and her crippling completely cemented it. Didn't help that their dad shafted them by sending them to a foreign country as hostages either.

Deep down she realises her brothers been sheltering her from a lot of the unpleasant truth's, she just accepts that he has his reason's and it must be for the best. I doubt she will ever hate or judge her brother just accept him for who he is i.e. the person who looked after and raised her for 7 years.

Personally if the whole truth comes out Suzaku has more to worry about than Lulu. Separating the 2 and allowing her to be erasied from his memories? Game over Suzaku.

Plus in Ep 11 when Shirely asked "isn't there someone you have feelings for and would go beyond your usual efforts for them" the first person he thought of was Nunnally. Quite a few people balked at this idea but there are many types of love such as romantic, spousal, parental and finnally familail love. The last of which was what Lulu feels for Nunnally.

I wonder how canon the bad end from lost colours is where Lulu kills himself after Nunnally dies is? It would be nice if we could get some confirmation that Lulu would do that if it happened in the anime.

[yezhanquan]

To be fair it's not suprising with all the things that happened that she acted like that. They were pretty close before, but the whole incident with there mother and her crippling completely cemented it. Didn't help that their dad shafted them by sending them to a foreign country as hostages either.

Deep down she realises her brothers been sheltering her from a lot of the unpleasant truth's, she just accepts that he has his reason's and it must be for the best. I doubt she will ever hate or judge her brother just accept him for who he is i.e. the person who looked after and raised her for 7 years.

Personally if the whole truth comes out Suzaku has more to worry about than Lulu. Separating the 2 and allowing her to be erasied from his memories? Game over Suzaku.

Plus in Ep 11 when Shirely asked "isn't there someone you have feelings for and would go beyond your usual efforts for them" the first person he thought of was Nunnally. Quite a few people balked at this idea but there are many types of love such as romantic, spousal, parental and finnally familail love. The last of which was what Lulu feels for Nunnally.

I wonder how canon the bad end from lost colours is where Lulu kills himself after Nunnally dies is? It would be nice if we could get some confirmation that Lulu would do that if it happened in the anime.

These siblings really had it bad, in some ways.

I can forsee that whoever marries Lelouch will have Nunnally as a co-bride, and whoever marries Nunnally will have Lulu as a co-husband.

[ZeroSama]

These siblings really had it bad, in some ways.

I can forsee that whoever marries Lelouch will have Nunnally as a co-bride, and whoever marries Nunnally will have Lulu as a co-husband.

If Shirely thought she had it bad it's nothing compared to these 2, Lulu espically.

If R2 continues along its current course after the revaltions about Ep13 maybe Lulu would be better off taking after Ostriches and just sticking his head in the ground.

Anyone around him or close to him seems to be fair game now(Nooooo Kallen don't die).

[yezhanquan]

If Shirely thought she had it bad it's nothing compared to these 2, Lulu espically.

If R2 continues along its current course after the revaltions about Ep13 maybe Lulu would be better off taking after Ostriches and just sticking his head in the ground.

Anyone around him or close to him seems to be fair game now(Nooooo Kallen don't die).

If Nunnally gets bumped off, I can join the Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei cast in being off my rocker.

[Ronin Aquila]

If R2 continues along its current course after the revaltions about Ep13 maybe Lulu would be better off taking after Ostriches and just sticking his head in the ground.

Or, more likely for a person of his ego, fucking kill everything that walks, crawls and flies in an unstoppable avalanche of vengeful grief and tyrannical anger.

[yezhanquan]

Or, more likely for a person of his ego, fucking kill everything that walks, crawls and flies in an unstoppable avalanche of vengeful grief and tyrannical anger.

Ah yes, Lulu and his ego. His ego caused him half his problems, be it in the field or in love.

[cheesie]

Dear Dann,

"I said it before, Episode 12 will mark the turning point. Shirley will go, then next will be unmistakably Kallen, then finally, all that's left is C.C." -- crisis

I love it when my gloating session draws closer and closer. :D

love,
crisis -see ya in ep 23!-

[Kushi]

Dear Dann,

"I said it before, Episode 12 will mark the turning point. Shirley will go, then next will be unmistakably Kallen, then finally, all that's left is C.C." -- crisis

I love it when my gloating session draws closer and closer. :D

love,
crisis -see ya in ep 23!-


As much as I'll love a C.C x Lulu ending, I have a really bad feeling that it's not going to happen. Especially after watching episode 16 of season 1. Where C.C saids "Mao, I loved you. Wait for me in the afterlife" It's been hinted too heavily that C.C is going to die. I have a bad feeling that Lulu is going to just end up single. or worse, dead.

[ZeroSama]

Where C.C saids "Mao, I loved you. Wait for me in the afterlife" It's been hinted too heavily that C.C is going to die. I have a bad feeling that Lulu is going to just end up single. or worse, died.

Yes this girl even kills people she loves. Would you really want to end up with her?

[yezhanquan]

Yes this girl even kills people she loves. Would you really want to end up with her?

I'm getting more and more convinced that the whole "Geass granter" thing is like a curse. To be rid of it, you have to pass the buck on.

[Ronin Aquila]

Not so hasty here.

Grandma Pizza and her race of gods are able to freely cross between the worlds of the living and the dead.

That, according to a friend of mine, was how Lelouch's mother was able to enlist her help in the afterlife to look after children in her absence.

[ZeroSama]

I'm getting more and more convinced that the whole "Geass granter" thing is like a curse. To be rid of it, you have to pass the buck on.

Then Lulu definitely ain't going to be suceeding her judging by his plan to annihilate the Cult.

[yezhanquan]

Then Lulu definitely ain't going to be suceeding her judging by his plan to annihilate the Cult.

Hence, the Cult Arc being interrupted. The speculation about C.C. returning to a normal girl and Lulu all alone gained that little bit in my mind.

[KrimzonStriker]

Yes this girl even kills people she loves. Would you really want to end up with her?

If I went as cuckoo as Mao I'd be begging for someone like her to send me off out of love :eyespin:

Besides, Lelouch isn't that crazy... and hopefully will not ever become that crazy :heh:

[ZeroSama]

If I went as cuckoo as Mao I'd be begging for someone like her to send me off out of love :eyespin:

Besides, Lelouch isn't that crazy... and hopefully will not ever become that crazy :heh:

Don't know about that. The next ep might send over the deep end.

[KrimzonStriker]

Don't know about that. The next ep might send over the deep end.

Well, if it happens then at least he might get a proper send off but I rather doubt it, Lelouch is much stronger mentally then Mao ever was :p

[demon_god04]

Well, if it happens then at least he might get a proper send off but I rather doubt it, Lelouch is much stronger mentally then Mao ever was :p

And it wasn't really a fault of Mao's mental strength that he went crazy, he heard the thoughts of everyone around him with no real way of shutting that off. I'd go crazy as well in that case... :heh:

[KrimzonStriker]

And it wasn't really a fault of Mao's mental strength that he went crazy, he heard the thoughts of everyone around him with no real way of shutting that off. I'd go crazy as well in that case... :heh:

Which is why a proper send off was required, but what a way to go, seeing that angel that greets you as you reach those white pearly gates. The man died happy I tell you, we should all be so lucky as to die like that! ;)

[demon_god04]

Which is why a proper send off was required, but what a way to go, seeing that angel that greets you as you reach those white pearly gates. The man died happy I tell you, we should all be so lucky as to die like that! ;)

Maybe it is just me but I'd rather die in bed of exhaustion with her then have her point a gun to my neck. :naughty: :heh: That is the real way a man should go. :p

[zalem]

Don't know about that. The next ep might send over the deep end.

I don't think that'll happen. He'll be upset, but won't go crazy. Now if Nunnally died....then we might see him go nuts.

[Marsala]

Yes this girl even kills people she loves. Would you really want to end up with her?

I wouldn't, but Lelouch might, seeing as how he's done the exact same thing.

[gabbytay]

Maybe it is just me but I'd rather die in bed of exhaustion with her then have her point a gun to my neck. :naughty: :heh: That is the real way a man should go. :p

LOL:heh: not a bad idea but the more the merrier :heh:

[Dann of Thursday]

Dear Dann,

"I said it before, Episode 12 will mark the turning point. Shirley will go, then next will be unmistakably Kallen, then finally, all that's left is C.C." -- crisis

I love it when my gloating session draws closer and closer. :D

love,
crisis -see ya in ep 23!-


Sorry, I don't see that happening. I read the spoilers so I know everything. The next arc is actually focusing on C.C., not Kallen so it will be the other way around if anything happens at all.

I'd be a little disappointed to see Lelouch simply move on to some other girl after what happens with Shirley, no matter who it is. I don't think there will be much romance except for maybe an open ended ending, which would pretty much just work in Kallen's favor.

I don't think there's going to be any gloating.

Yes this girl even kills people she loves. Would you really want to end up with her?

Once again, I find the arrogance in making the pairing out to be such a horrible thing hilarious and sad. She put him out of his misery and the misery of others.

[zalem]

Actually....

Episode 13 and 14 is all Shirley. And though 14 is focusing on the geass cult there is no mention of C.C. in the spoilers. It sounds like it's mostly Shirley and Lelouch's reaction to everything that happens. Unless you've seen spoilers for 15 and on that mention C.C. I'm guessing after Shirley there will be some Kallen and Nunnally interaction and perhaps Lelouch trying to get Kallen back. That will probably not happen til 18-20 though.

Again I don't see a problem with Lelouch hooking up later on with C.C. or Kallen. It's not like Shirley is the love of his life. She's just a good friend and while he cares for her he has never shown a true romantic interest in her. So unless they have him suddenly confess that he's loved her all along in the next episode, I don't really see the issue with him having a romantic relationship later. So long as it is well developed that is.

Though like I said, I've never seen Lulu show romantic interest in anyone so I could totally see him not with anyone in the end.

[light_water]

In my view, Lelouch sees Shirley as more of a nuisance than anything else. She is constantly annoying him and getting in his way, in both school life and Destroy-Britannia-Life. I see Lelouch as only being nice to her because he is a good guy and doesn't want to kill her, just because of the time they spent at school together.

I think he feels a sense of guilt for getting her involved with geass (and her father's death) and thus just keeps her around and entertains her silly romantic approaches. If push came to shove I am confident that Lelouch would have no trouble killing her off.

[yezhanquan]

In my view, Lelouch sees Shirley as more of a nuisance than anything else. She is constantly annoying him and getting in his way, in both school life and Destroy-Britannia-Life. I see Lelouch as only being nice to her because he is a good guy and doesn't want to kill her, just because of the time they spent at school together.

I think he feels a sense of guilt for getting her involved with geass (and her father's death) and thus just keeps her around and entertains her silly romantic approaches. If push came to shove I am confident that Lelouch would have no trouble killing her off.

If this is him @ S1, I'llagree. This season, I'm not so sure. If he can't make up his mind on whether to become the Zero of S1, or something with more heart, then....

[light_water]

yezhanguan, just wondering, what differences do you see in Lelouch in R2 in regards to Lelouch in S1? (concerning Shirley) There definitely has been quite some screentime of Lelouch and Shirley together, but other than the little phone scene in ep11, I don't think there was much to suggest that Lelouch views Shirley as little more than a tool to use to keep up his school-life charade... was there?

We've seen Lelouch become warmer to other characters, and show a little more of his human side, but we also know that he can still be a cold blooded killer.

[yezhanquan]

I mean not in love, but as having a bit of feeling in him.

And as you mention, Lulu has shown both sides. If he doesn't decide the mix which he's comfortable with quickly, he may have some trouble with himself. In R1, he went from one extreme to another, never really finding the right mix.

[light_water]

What you say is true.... I think its clear that Shirley is definitely going to help him through this process, but do you anticipate any use left for Shirley after that job is fulfilled? Personally I'm beginning to see the beginnings of Shirley's death. I.e., Shirley helps Lulu find his balance and in some tragic turn of events, she is blown to pieces by Orange-kun, providing the final step of Lulu's character reform.

[yezhanquan]

I'm sure some of us like Lulu in his current "form", changing persona according to the situation with relatively little concern. Personally, I like him to lean towards a Dark Lord persona. A little bitterness, a little bombast...

[Asleep]

In my view, Lelouch sees Shirley as more of a nuisance than anything else. She is constantly annoying him and getting in his way, in both school life and Destroy-Britannia-Life. I see Lelouch as only being nice to her because he is a good guy and doesn't want to kill her, just because of the time they spent at school together.

I think he feels a sense of guilt for getting her involved with geass (and her father's death) and thus just keeps her around and entertains her silly romantic approaches. If push came to shove I am confident that Lelouch would have no trouble killing her off.

I don't think so. Shirley might not be the one he loves, but he does consider her as his friend. She was in his group of friends which led him to wear the mask again. He wouldn't kill any of them. They are the reason he is fighting for. Since she is one of them, she is indispensable. He realised that in ep 7. He wasn't just being a good guy. That was real, when he realised what was important to him and that he had something to return to and fight for.

I agree he is guilty about what he did to her, but it doesn't mean he likes her only because of his guilt.

[light_water]

Oh good call, I had forgotten about that little scene

[KallenMiki]

I will go for kallen x lelouch or c.c x lelouch, I still don't like Shirley be with Lelouch.

[incorrupts]

Lelouch is a moving harem, he will never be out of women. XD

Anyway, my fav ships are Lulu/Shirley and Lulu/Kallen. I like both relationships so vote goes there.

[bladeofdarkness]

the one thing we know about how he see's sherly is that he wants to keep her out of his other life as much as he can
that alone makes for a less the likely romance (she's in love with a mask that he wears)

[orangejuicetang]

the one thing we know about how he see's sherly is that he wants to keep her out of his other life as much as he can
that alone makes for a less the likely romance (she's in love with a mask that he wears)

It depends on which side of his personality you considers is his mask and which side you think is his real side.

[demon_god04]

It depends on which side of his personality you considers is his mask and which side you think is his real side.

Shirley loves Lelouch Lamperouge, thats the persona he keeps up at school. His true self still shows through that persona but it is still not his true self, same with Zero. I'd say that the real Lelouch Vi Britannia is the personality that lies inbetween the two extremes.

[Var]

Shirley loves Lelouch Lamperouge, thats the persona he keeps up at school. His true self still shows through that persona but it is still not his true self, same with Zero. I'd say that the real Lelouch Vi Britannia is the personality that lies inbetween the two extremes.

Only two people, to my knowledge, know of the real Lelouch. C.C. and Kallen. I suppose Milly does in a way but she doesn't know about Zero.

[orangejuicetang]

I wouldn't say Kallen knows of real Lelouch. I think she looks at him like Zero Lelouch.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

I wouldn't say Kallen knows of real Lelouch. I think she looks at him like Zero Lelouch.

Kallen knows him as Zero. Kallen knows him as Lelouch Lamperouge. And C.C. has filled Kallen in on the part of Lelouch Vi Britannia, so...

[Captain Zechs]

I have to ask...

Why isn't there a RoloxLelouch pairing? While the love is certainly one-sided on Rolo's part, I think it deserves to be listed :P

Though. I don't support the couple lol.

C.C.= LOVE!

Edit: When did C.C. do that? I thought Kallen was in the dark about his lineage?

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Edit: When did C.C. do that? I thought Kallen was in the dark about his lineage?

According to the offical newsletter, C.C. told Kallen everything about Lelouch (His reason for fighrning, about him being a former prince, etc) during their year of preparing for freeing Lelouch...

[Captain Zechs]

Oh. Didn't know that. I'm surprised she never brought it up. Though, she is half-britannian, so I suppose she can't complain...

I have to wonder, why, exactly, did they wait a year? I mean, it seems a little silly to me that they did. It also seems silly to me that Britannia waited a year to execute the OoTBK members...I mean, atleast a few of them? Kinda silly.

Oh wells.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Oh. Didn't know that. I'm surprised she never brought it up. Though, she is half-britannian, so I suppose she can't complain...

Well, they might not've had much of an opportuny to bring it up, that's all. It may be a subject that'll come up in the future and on though.

I have to wonder, why, exactly, did they wait a year? I mean, it seems a little silly to me that they did. It also seems silly to me that Britannia waited a year to execute the OoTBK members...I mean, atleast a few of them? Kinda silly...

From what I get, the OotBK waited a year because they had to gather resources for freeing Zero, so... As for why Britannia waited for so long: Beats me, perhaps they just thought that without Zero running around, there wasn't much of a hurry. There's other possiblites too, though those dive into the "conspiracy theory"-realm... :heh:

[zalem]

Yeah, the thing with Britannia waiting a year was always kind of lame and never made sense to me. Everyone else they executed right away (like the Kyoto families except Kaguya), but the OotBK they wait a year to execute? That's awfully convenient. It seems like the writers made a silly mistake with that one.

[Kushi]

Well... C.C knows all sides of Lelouch, so I would say C.C = winnar! or so I hope :P

[Sinn]

Has anyone thought about MillayxNina?

[incorrupts]

Has anyone thought about MillayxNina?
Now you mention it i want Milly and that random girl from R1 epi 6 who said "i'd like Milly-san" God, CRACK
Good times. <3

[Eliarine]

Has anyone thought about MillayxNina?

I have, at the end of episode 12. And now that I think about it, Milly is probably one of the only characters in the cast who could knock some sense into Nina and turn her into at least a nicer person (I like giving people second chances).

The only problem I'd have with this pairing is that Milly is among my favorite characters and that...I don't really like Nina xD;

[Captain Zechs]

I swear. If there is ever a day where Nina touches Milly...I will find a way to take revenge on Sunrise.

[Var]

Oh. Didn't know that. I'm surprised she never brought it up. Though, she is half-britannian, so I suppose she can't complain...

She tried to bring it up in Ep.7 but she opted to pull Lelouch out of his rut, not chat.

[Eliarine]

I swear. If there is ever a day where Nina touches Milly...I will find a way to take revenge on Sunrise.

What if Milly touches Nina? :rolleyes:

No seriously, the girl has gone so crazy that I would like to see someone trying to calm her down a bit. :uhoh:

[gabbytay]

I think OrangeXNina is needed.

[Rising Dragon]

I think OrangeXNina is needed.

Contrary to popular belief, psycho x psycho does not work out. >_>

[gabbytay]

Contrary to popular belief, psycho x psycho does not work out. >_>

Why not :heh: aleast both can kill each other without harming the favorite characters in the series.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Why not :heh: aleast both can kill each other without harming the favorite characters in the series.

SuzakuXNina then?

Someone is going to die at the hand of the other in that pairing...:D:eyespin:

[hanseo]

lelouch x nina

[gabbytay]

lelouch x nina

It could work:heh: one with a strategic mind and one crazy suicide nuke bomber.

[Lelouch71]

Nah, Nina x bullet to the head is my favorite pairing.

[Rising Dragon]

Everyone knows the most canon pairing in the show is Nina x Table.

[zalem]

Nah, Nina x bullet to the head is my favorite pairing.

I 100% support this pairing.

[demon_god04]

That's not a pairing, it is just something Nina needs. Like medicine. ;) :heh:

[Captain Zechs]

That's not a pairing, it is just something Nina needs. Like medicine. ;) :heh:

More like a drug in her case!

And I support that pairing.

[Inferno Phoenyx]

Everyone knows the most canon pairing in the show is Nina x Table.

Don't for get the chair.:heh:

[gabbytay]

Everyone knows the most canon pairing in the show is Nina x Table.

You need to be specific because a Round table wont work it has to have a rectangular shape.:heh:

[wolfboy]

In all honesty, Lelouch will probably end up dead at the end of the show along with C.C.

[Avira]

In all honesty, Lelouch will probably end up dead at the end of the show along with C.C.


That would be a bright ending:heh:

Anyway, I'm also for NinaxTable, that is TRUE LOVE if you ask me*nods*

And a bit for LelouchxMilly...

[ZeroSama]

In all honesty, Lelouch will probably end up dead at the end of the show along with C.C.

Maybe they'll all die in the end of the show due to the SOA. Then everyone gets a happy ending to seeing there most hated characters die.

[Magin]

With what's happening to a few characters, I'm seeing this becoming a Basilisk/Eva ending...

hell, if they all die, I can more than easily live with that with no feelings of regret at watching this show

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

With what's happening to a few characters, I'm seeing this becoming a Basilisk/Eva ending...

Personally I don't see thme takign the EVA-route here. At worst I'm expecting them to take the RahXephon/Darker Than Black route rather (a great deal of characters die but at least half of them, more or less, remains alive at the end).

[yezhanquan]

It's the living who has to grieve, and I can see Kallen or Nunnally in this role at the end.

[Magin]

If it goes RahXephon, that will make my day... however, I've only ever seen one other anime do anything close to RahXephon, and that was Mai Hime (for the record, RahXephon is on of my favorites)

Darker than Black I haven't seen, so I can't compare CG with it

[Var]

It's the living who has to grieve, and I can see Kallen or Nunnally in this role at the end.

I'll take that if there's a little Lelouch in the oven. :p The world needs more Lelouch. :heh:

[yezhanquan]

A widow Kallen, raising little Lulu, with aunt Nunnally...

Little Lulu: Aunt Nunnally, how was Father like?
Nunnally: He was a good brother.
Little Lulu: Mama, if Father was a good man, why did he die?
Kallen (patting his head): Your father died precisely because he was a good man.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

If it goes RahXephon, that will make my day... however, I've only ever seen one other anime do anything close to RahXephon, and that was Mai Hime (for the record, RahXephon is on of my favorites)

Well, as long as they don't bring the whole "restarting the world"-theme into it, I'd be fine with it... :heh:

[incorrupts]

With what's happening to a few characters, I'm seeing this becoming a Basilisk/Eva ending...

hell, if they all die, I can more than easily live with that with no feelings of regret at watching this show
LOL

But room for romance is kinda limited after the last revelations, but i still hope so for something. {specially about Kallen, poor girl she's like the only one that hasn't get any Lulu lovin' XD}

[Var]

A widow Kallen, raising little Lulu, with aunt Nunnally...

Little Lulu: Aunt Nunnally, how was Father like?
Nunnally: He was a good brother.
Little Lulu: Mama, if Father was a good man, why did he die?
Kallen (patting his head): Your father died precisely because he was a good man.

Bingo. I'll take that if Lelouch is to die.

[Stretch5920]

Kallen (patting his head): Your father died precisely because he was a good man.

Why do parents always lie?

[Eliarine]

Cliché ending is cliché. :D

[incorrupts]

Why do parents always lie?
Because people always lie. House said so. XD

That ending would be a warm and fuzzy though. |D

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Why do parents always lie?

Because sometimes a lie is better than the balant truth? :p
Besides, it depends on the perspective of course... ;)

[yezhanquan]

Why do parents always lie?

I wouldn't judge so quickly.

In the above scenario, anyone wants Nunnally to be the mother to Suzaku's child? Suzaku also dying by the way.

[Var]

LOL

But room for romance is kinda limited after the last revelations, but i still hope so for something. {specially about Kallen, poor girl she's like the only one that hasn't get any Lulu lovin' XD}

I wouldn't say this can be said in which way it will take romance. It could end it, completely, but it could also kick it into overdrive. In my opinion, it will likely knock it to somewhere in the middle where Lelouch will be adamant about 'love' but no longer stupid about it either. Eventually something will likely crack through and into his heart again.

The reason I say this is simple, he himself does not know how he even feels about Shirley. At best he likes her, there is no immense love between them.

And yes, Kallen needs her loving. :p

Why do parents always lie?

Because they care? Dunno.

[demon_god04]

Why do parents always lie?

Lelouch is a good man, a good man that has done some questionable things.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

In the above scenario, anyone wants Nunnally to be the mother to Suzaku's child? Suzaku also dying by the way.

and then we see both Suzaku's child and Lelouch's child play together like best friends like they did at the start of season 1? :D

[gabbytay]

And yes, Kallen needs her loving. :p


Kallen have more than enough love already:rolleyes:. C.C is the one that needs it the most I mean she been living for centuries with out love.

[incorrupts]

[QUOTE=Var;1700365]I wouldn't say this can be said in which way it will take romance. It could end it, completely, but it could also kick it into overdrive. In my opinion, it will likely knock it to somewhere in the middle where Lelouch will be adamant about 'love' but no longer stupid about it either. Eventually something will likely crack through and into his heart again.

The reason I say this is simple, he himself does not know how he even feels about Shirley. At best he likes her, there is no immense love between them.

And yes, Kallen needs her loving. :p[/QUOTE}

She does. |D

{as for the romance part, i do not think it will be annihilated, i mean it's a show, it's gotta have all the ingredients but it might take some time. And Lulu has shown interest for both Kallen and Shirley. Maybe more about Shirley cause Shirley is coming to him more. I mean Kallen is busy with Guren right? XDD}

[Stretch5920]

I remember reading someone's version of an ending that was about Lelouch destroying the World of C and all the souls trapped there (C.C's too) were returned to the cycle of rebirth. So Euphie and Clovis were reborn as Emperor Suzaku and Nunnally's kids and Lelouch was bumming off Kallen's wage and Kallen's mom visits and brings pizza for them, just as you see Lelouch playing chess with a small green haired girl.

It was corny in a way, but kinda decent.

[demon_god04]

Kallen have more than enough love already:rolleyes:. C.C is the one that needs it the most I mean she been living for centuries with out love.

C.C got a whole first season of loving, it's Kallen's turn now to be in the spotlight after being shafted for half a season. :p

[yezhanquan]

and then we see both Suzaku's child and Lelouch's child play together like best friends like they did at the start of season 1? :D

As the kids play, the mothers sit and look at the sight before them.

Kallen: I don't know if this was how the three of you played all those years ago.
Nunnally: It sure sounds like. I only wish that both of them had lived to see this.
Kallen: It's always the living who had to find the strength to live on.
Nunnally: (nods)

[demon_god04]

I remember reading someone's version of an ending that was about Lelouch destroying the World of C and all the souls trapped there (C.C's too) were returned to the cycle of rebirth. So Euphie and Clovis were reborn as Emperor Suzaku and Nunnally's kids and Lelouch was bumming off Kallen's wage and Kallen's mom visits and brings pizza for them, just as you see Lelouch playing chess with a small green haired girl.

It was corny in a way, but kinda decent.

I always knew Kallen would be the one to wear the pants.... just not to that extent. :heh::heh:

[incorrupts]

Kallen have more than enough love already:rolleyes:. C.C is the one that needs it the most I mean she been living for centuries with out love.

CC's got the pizza love. XD {ahem, lame joke is lame joke |D}

And i as well think it's Kallen's time now, get the jail out of the pic and we're done. <3

[gabbytay]

C.C got a whole first season of loving, it's Kallen's turn now to be in the spotlight after being shafted for half a season. :p

It only 1 season:heh: (1 year)

[Magin]

Well, as long as they don't bring the whole "restarting the world"-theme into it, I'd be fine with it... :heh:

Restarting the world was the best part, IMO- allowed for a happy ending (I'm a huge sucker for those)

although, if it did something even remotely similar to that, try this for a huge letdown: the restarted world of CG turns out to be our own world...

as for Lelocuh being a good man who did some dark things, remember: the road to hell is paved with good intentions

and as an afterthought, watch the World of C and CG's world have the same relationship as FMA's and ours

[Stretch5920]

If they do something stupid like Geass the whole world and everyone is happy. That would be stupid.

[Magin]

Or even worse- Nunnally's eyes have been closed this whole time because she has a Geass power to turn back time

not that it can or will happen... and Geassing everyone into happiness, though it seems like a positive, would be very horrible... living a lie

[Marsala]

Geassing everyone into happiness, though it seems like a positive, would be very horrible... living a lie

This could actually be what V.V. and Charles are planning to do to the world.

[Magin]

How do you figure that? I mean, sure they're evil bastards, but I just don't somehow see that happening, considering they're after the Sword of Akasha and the death of the 'gods' (we really need to know what they mean by gods)

[honeypie_0106]

Hello guys, wanna give this topic another shot?

It seems a bit quite lately.

[Magin]

It might as well be dead... based on the latest episode, unless they really go GS, Lelouch is no longer capable of love

[yezhanquan]

Someone already proclaimed this thread half-dead, because Lulu will now become 100% Zero.

Let's not even hint that R2 will become GS.

[honeypie_0106]

I don't know, last type Lulu went emo-he asked for bed service - remember Kallen?

I really want a Mitsuki-Takayuki healing scene!

But then CG isn't about romance - we fans just like to poke at possibilities.

[Stretch5920]

Yeah the romance is pretty much dead now. I'm sure C.C will comfort Lelouch later in a nonromantic way like after Euphie and people who like that couple will go on about it. There will no doubt be some drama between him and Kallen later too.

I think he's gonna die in the end anyway.

[ZeroSama]

I don't know, last type Lulu went emo-he asked for bed service - remember Kallen?

I'm sure Kaguya will be more than willing to help heal her Zero-sama.

[nanatsusaya]

Romance never dies!

....better start shipping the latest OTP now >___>

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b149/mikage24/Kaguya.jpg
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

:heh::heh::heh::heh::heh: :rolleyes:

[Stretch5920]

Don't forget Jeremiah and Viletta.

[yezhanquan]

Don't forget Jeremiah and Viletta.

Now that Orange-sama is on Lulu's side, he and Ohgi vying for Viletta's hand....

[cheesie]

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/CODE%20GEASS/CODE%20GEASS%20R2%20-%20ED2%20-%20Large%2001.jpg

They're giving me ammo against Dann already? Wow! I wasn't expecting a big card like this until the Episode 17-20 mark, but okay. :D

[Dann of Thursday]

Well, I just popped in for a second, but that pic doesn't mean anything really. You could few that picture in a number of ways, be it romantic, maternal, or something else. Again, I'll be a little surprised if we see much in the way of romance after Shirley for some reason. Doesn't mean I don't like the pic, but I'm not going to fool myself with an ending image of all things. It would have to be something that actually happened in the show.

[Tokkan]

That already happened in the anime, C.C. comforted Lelouch like that after the Bloodstained Euphy incident.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

Again, I'll be a little surprised if we see much in the way of romance after Shirley for some reason.

Well, there's going to be a lot of stuff happening from now on , so romance if there'll be any will take MUCH less of a priority for now. Though I can believe that at best/worst we'll only be left with a hint or two in at the end... :uhoh:

[yezhanquan]

How about shifting to side characters? If I remember correctly, Miss Nu has Ohgi and Orange-sama to worry about.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

How about shifting to side characters. If I remember correctly, Miss Nu has Ohgi and Orange-sama to worry about.

Well, Ohgi X Viletta may be the only canon pairing in the end... :heh:

[yezhanquan]

Well, Ohgi X Viletta may be the only canon pairing in the end... :heh:

May not be that straightforward. Orange-sama looks like a prime candidate.

[cheesie]

Again, I'll be a little surprised if we see much in the way of romance after Shirley for some reason.

Hahahahah, look who tried to change his tune! :D No biggie, it just adds more to the gloating pile, just be patient and wait, k? :D

Doesn't mean I don't like the pic, but I'm not going to fool myself with an ending image of all things. It would have to be something that actually happened in the show.

That already happened in the anime, C.C. comforted Lelouch like that after the Bloodstained Euphy incident.

It's a character portrait, not an event portrait. :D Each of the main characters have one. Laughable if used as main evidence for a pairing, but very useful for reading the flow of a love story! It's all about how everything adds up to the big picture, but don't worry, they haven't pulled out the big guns yet! :D

love,
crisis

[Stretch5920]

Now that Orange-sama is on Lulu's side, he and Ohgi vying for Viletta's hand....

nah I doubt it. I was just fishing.

Orange and Viletta always seemed like comrades to me and I want them to stay that way.

[Dann of Thursday]

Hahahahah, look who tried to change his tune! :D No biggie, it just adds more to the gloating pile, just be patient and wait, k? :D

Meh, I don't plan on coming here much since it just seems to bring out the worst in me. I can wait of course, but I'm not expecting anything. I would still need to see things resolved with Kallen for something like that to happen.

[cheesie]

^ You can't honestly be telling me you're scared that much now that the tides are slowly turning. :D Even if dissecting the world's worst love triangle in Macross Frontier upped my romance reading powers, there's still a chance I could be proven wrong you know. (Well, okay, maybe 1%, but it's still a small chance!) :D

[demon_god04]

http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/CODE%20GEASS/CODE%20GEASS%20R2%20-%20ED2%20-%20Large%2001.jpg

They're giving me ammo against Dann already? Wow! I wasn't expecting a big card like this until the Episode 17-20 mark, but okay. :D

Call me a Kallen fanboy but that scene doesn't seem like it was meant to be romantic in nature. With the birds in the background flying up and the setting sun, along with C.C seemingly changing into a bird and their expressions. It fits more of a farewell scene to me.

[Dann of Thursday]

I'm not scared at all and I don't think the scene is romantic in any way. It does seem like a farewell scene if anything.

And it's rather pointless to try arguing for C.C. in this forum.

[cheesie]

Call me a Kallen fanboy but that scene doesn't seem like it was meant to be romantic in nature. With the birds in the background flying up and the setting sun, along with C.C seemingly changing into a bird and their expressions. It fits more of a farewell scene to me.

Okay, for you, I'll explain a little. :D

First thing is, I said it before, it's a character portrait, not an event portrait. It can't be one, because if it was, it wouldn't link together well with everyone else's portraits. Lulu in this picture is tied up in bondage, holding C.C who might either represent 1) wings that will give Lulu freedom or 2) wings that Lulu is dragging down with him. Very poetic. Puts a hell of a hole into Dann's "they're acquaintances" argument. I would read more into it but I'm not big into this pairing. :D

It's not a very big thing, all it's good for is determining the flow of love stories. It's one of the things I immediately keep a watch out for when ANY story starts its second half. :D Usually it's a good indication for me because it's also the time the story will start to separate the "red herring pairings" from its canon pairing. :D

2) As a Kallen fanboy, okay, no worries, but if you're a Lulu x Kallen fanboy, you shouldn't be attempting to explain this away, you should be wondering about the absence of a Lulu x Kallen illustration considering that Lulu's love interest is a big thing in CG and somehow, Nina's got a beautiful drawing by CLAMP and we all know Nina is trash. :D

Trying to disprove Lulu x CC =/= proving Lulu x Kallen.

Edit : Actually never mind the mysterious absence of a Lulu x Kallen the Love Interest pic, they forgot to include Kallen herself in the ED sequence. :heh:

I can't believe I'm posting out a Lulu x CC endorsement post, considering how much I hate the pairing. But even more, I'm doing this because I just couldn't resist the temptation of watching CG destroy an adorable smartass who thinks he's completely right when I could see him coming crashing down so hard it won't be funny. (Well, okay, it will be. :heh: That's why I'll be sticking around once the series hit the 23+ range. :D)

Okay, see you in about ten episodes. :D

love,
crisis -=waves bye=-

[zalem]

Episode 13 just confirmed to me that Lelouch isn't going to end up romantically with anyone. Always thought that, but the episode sealed it. If there was a season 3 then maybe there would be time for a romance and it wouldn't be awkward, but as far as we know there's only R2....

[Dann of Thursday]

I can't believe I'm posting out a Lulu x CC endorsement post, considering how much I hate the pairing. But even more, I'm doing this because I just couldn't resist the temptation of watching CG destroy an adorable smartass who thinks he's completely right when I could see him coming crashing down so hard it won't be funny. (Well, okay, it will be. :heh: That's why I'll be sticking around once the series hit the 23+ range. :D)

Okay, see you in about ten episodes. :D

love,
crisis -=waves bye=-

Your interpretion is certainly possible, but I doubt we'll ever know for sure until events start happening. It could mean anything really.

Then don't. I'd ask why you hate the pairing, but I doubt I'll hear anything different from what everyone else always tells me. Do I think I'm right? Yes, because things have pointed that way. It's really either Kallen or he ends up with no one. The latter certainly seems more likely to me after the events of 13 since it just seems odd to me for him to be with someone after that. Maybe if there was another season or something it could happen, but I doubt that will occur.

And I doubt you are going to get the chance to see me fall or anything of the sort to be honest. I'm already falling enough as it is.

So if you don't like the pairing, then stop. I see no point in doing such a thing and it simply gives false hope to some people.

And I'm not a fanboy of either Kallen or the pairing concerning her. This forum is dominated by people who prefer her and that pairing though. At least, they actually speak here.

[cheesie]

And I doubt you are going to get the chance to see me fall or anything of the sort to be honest. I'm already falling enough as it is.

So if you don't like the pairing, then stop. I see no point in doing such a thing and it simply gives false hope to some people.

And I'm not a fanboy of either Kallen or the pairing concerning her. This forum is dominated by people who prefer her and that pairing though. At least, they actually speak here.

Hun, this is exactly why I'm coming back in Episode 23. :D You are so painfully transparent that I wasn't sure whether to feel sorry for you or laugh.

love,
crisis

P/S : I chose the second option, btw. :D

[Dann of Thursday]

How am I transparent? I don't think we're going to see much at all by the time we get there. Maybe we will and maybe we won't, but I'm not expecting much.

Second option? You mean on where things go in terms of romance after 13?

[demon_god04]

Okay, for you, I'll explain a little. :D

First thing is, I said it before, it's a character portrait, not an event portrait. It can't be one, because if it was, it wouldn't link together well with everyone else's portraits. Lulu in this picture is tied up in bondage, holding C.C who might either represent 1) wings that will give Lulu freedom or 2) wings that Lulu is dragging down with him. Very poetic. Puts a hell of a hole into Dann's "they're acquaintances" argument. I would read more into it but I'm not big into this pairing. :D

It's not a very big thing, all it's good for is determining the flow of love stories. It's one of the things I immediately keep a watch out for when ANY story starts its second half. :D Usually it's a good indication for me because it's also the time the story will start to separate the "red herring pairings" from its canon pairing. :D

2) As a Kallen fanboy, okay, no worries, but if you're a Lulu x Kallen fanboy, you shouldn't be attempting to explain this away, you should be wondering about the absence of a Lulu x Kallen illustration considering that Lulu's love interest is a big thing in CG and somehow, Nina's got a beautiful drawing by CLAMP and we all know Nina is trash. :D

Trying to disprove Lulu x CC =/= proving Lulu x Kallen.

I can't believe I'm posting out a Lulu x CC endorsement post, considering how much I hate the pairing. But even more, I'm doing this because I just couldn't resist the temptation of watching CG destroy an adorable smartass who thinks he's completely right when I could see him coming crashing down so hard it won't be funny. (Well, okay, it will be. :heh: That's why I'll be sticking around once the series hit the 23+ range. :D)

Okay, see you in about ten episodes. :D

love,
crisis -=waves bye=-

My interpretation also comes from the colours used to paint the sky which instills a duller and sadder feeling, hence my interpretation. If it was a scene meant to give Lelouch freedom, I believe they would have used a brighter more uplifting sky in the background. The birds flying up and away from the earth and C.C seemingly changing into a more birdlike creature while Lelouch is chained to the earth gives me the feeling of a scene of separation and that C.C is "moving on" while sharing that embrace. The embrace itself is more maternal then romantic in nature as well, rather then embracing as lovers, C.C is comforting Lelouch much like how a mother comforts her child and that while doing so C.C is also looking up into the sky in the direction the birds are taking flight.

Well being a Kallen fanboy doesn't mean I was advocating that pairing in my intention of interpreting the scene. It was just my take on the imagery they used and how they presented it. I did not in my post anywhere try to advocate Lulu x Kallen, nor was it my intention to do so.

[Dann of Thursday]

Unfortunately, that interpretation makes more sense to me than any other.

[Var]

I suppose this fits best in here as it will more likely than not start a shipping war or debate and completely ignore the actual symbolism present. Anyway, let me speak on the actual topic at hand: The new OP and ED. That is what I will be discussing today, for shits and giggles mostly, and as a continuation of a discussion and demon_god and I are having.

So as to my plan of attack (because I'm really bored and my hands hurt from text-cleaning avis (sorry Pathis XD)) I'll do this in time intervals of say... about 10 or so seconds. With tie ins back and forth through the scenes.

Let's begin:
OP:
0:00-0:05: Blue stuff! Fascinating, very colorful.
0:05-0:10: We see Lelouch in glorious light and the Geass activating.
0:10-0:20: The interesting image of three figures on a cliff side overlooking the castle appears. Moving past that: I believe we see the four main players in this second half of the plot aside from Lelouch. C.C., Schneizel, Suzaku, and Nunally. They've been getting screen time already or have been getting development to bring them into the forefront. I think that this OP is signaling that development. In a way, we can think of it as the five sides to a large scale conflict.
0:20-0:25: Code Geass!
0:25-0:35: We see Gino, Kallen, Anya, and Nina. There are two ways to look at this. One is that these four people represent important people to those shown a few seconds prior. For instance: Gino and Anya = Suzaku, Kallen = Nunally (or C.C.), Schneizel = Nina. The other possibility is that this represents traitors or those who change sides, by their own will or not. (Though this does not quite fit Nina) The last possibility is that these are the people who will also be the other key players in the upcoming half of the season.
0:35-0:40: We see the mural of the gods which is overtaken by very beautiful flowers.
0:40-0:43: The aforementioned flowers are, in a way, trampled/burned away by Todou's KMF as it spills into the scene of his KMF going up into a massive firefight/war. This, seems to me, to represent Nunally's anti-war beliefs (those for a peaceful world) getting lost under the march and fire of war. Anyone who knows Norse legend can also notice that the object that Todou is attacking looks an aweful lot like Yggdrasil. The center of the world, so in this case, Pendragon.
0:43-0:44: Lelouch and Schneizel, one wearing his mask the other taking it off. (Yes, I'm dubbing Schneizel's mask as a deceitful smile)
0:44-0:53: We see Nunally and a pinkish-red crane in her hands. She then throws that crane into the horizon, towards the soaring birds. That crane, I believe, given the aforementioned symbolism and stuff that appears later, is Kallen. The crane flies with a rainbow trail, one of color, behind it into the Geass overlap and into the scene of Zero. This point continues into the next sequence and later as well.
0:53-0:56: The scene is very dark, and war torn, unlike the image seconds before it around Nunally. This seems to show where Lelouch/Zero were headed, down a dark road. The KMFs are all portrayed rather villanously here as well, with Rolo's Vincent shooting behind not as a crane of colorful rainbows but fire and destruction.
0:56-1:02: Rolo's vincent spills into the heart of the Guren, and the backdrop becomes much brighter. We then get a showcasing of the two most powerful KMFs we know of. The Guren is portrayed rather passively, angelically to some degree (perhaps aluding to it saving something/one) where as the Lancelot charges into battle rather adamantely and swings its sword. The intros are contrasting.
1:02-1:05: We see Nina's bomb and the Guren and Lancelot are seemingly facing off in a very dark setting. The scene then goes to another mysterious and well armed KMF shooting everything, basically.
1:05-1:18: We see the long exposee of characters, led off by a very happy and perky Kallen in her pilot suit for the OoBK. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that the person they are viewing is both the viewer (you or me) and Lelouch. I say this because of the reactions we see, notably Anya and Rolo's. Those two have not shown emotion otherwise, and didn't show it in the original OP either when we had a similar exposee. In it we can also see happiness on everyones face. We see Cornelia and Guilford (Cornelia puts out her arm to whoever passes), Orange and Villeta (uh oh!), Nina is happy, Xingke and a happy Tianzi, Milly looking back to Rivalz throwing himself at her, Lloyd and Cecile happily together. And finally, Sayako and Gino's darker sides are revealed.
1:18-1:20: C.C. is seen, finally, looking on by the moonlight away from anyone, smiling but seemingly distant.
1:20-1:29: We see the Emperor and Schneizel displayed in a very dark scheme of only two colors, red and blue. We then see, however, Lelouch/Zero not with a dark backdrop like before or like his predecessors, but a backdrop that is lively and full of vibrance and color. If you follow the progression, it shows Lelouch go full circle: From a brilliant light, to a dark path of destruction, and back to light. If you queue this with Kallen and C.C.'s reactions, it seems that Lelouch does not succumb to the darkness that consumed Mao and that C.C. did not want Lelouch to experience.

ED:
Scene One: Demon_god summed this up well, but the scene seems to be about parting. C.C. is turning into a bird and, in the background, birds are flying off. This also holds more water when coupled with her Character Single. She is leaving. On another note, the scene is rather maternal in the posture taken by both C.C. and Lelouch. She is holding him much like a child, the embrace does not appear, to me, as one of lovers.
Scene Two: Nunally holds a cage, where I'll assume that the cage represents Kallen's prison. (As we see her in a cage in the Extended Preview of 14) There is to note, however, that the bird cage is empty and that the birds in the background too are flying away. Couple this with the first scene and you can see a similarity. Nunally parts ways with Kallen, sending her (the paper crane) to where she belongs. (And since I suck so much, she sent Kallen to her brother's side. Eat me.)
Scene Three: A single gentle feather and a collection of characters. I'm not quite sure what to make of this scene at the moment, so I'll leave it alone for now.
Scene Four: Shirley's scene, she is, however, happy. I think its offered as closure that she died happily if such a thing were possible.
Scene Five: Schneizel's scene shows him amongst ruins of some sort, with birds flying in his background as well. It could be refering, and I believe it is, to his KoR leaving his side. Those birds seem to imply seperation, and that fits rather well with Anya and Gino. He also seems to be sinking into darkness like his father.
Scene Six: Ashford Character line up and the scientists. We see Milly in a wedding dress, perhaps to be married to either Lloyd, or if we go by the OP, Rivalz. Lloyd and Cecile are wearing very beautiful attire with Lakshata in the background.
Last two scenes I am simply confused by at the moment, though out should note that Suzaku has stone wings behind him. Perhaps he does die.

Woo, long post is long! I'll update this at some point in time.

[Dann of Thursday]

Yeah, that all makes sense of course. Kallen fans are right as usual.

[demon_god04]

That covers what we were talking about and then some. I also have nothing to add to the op at the moment though.

For the ed, other then the C.C and Lelouch one and Suzaku and Lelouch one at the end, the others don't really seem to contain as much symbolism to me.

On the matter of Suzaku's scene, I don't think the stone wings symbolize death as much as his ideal not taking flight as he had hoped, and rather he is starting to become weighted down by them instead. He is also holding a sword but the arm that is doing so is also held by chains, yet not really bound to them.

[hanseo]

Yeah, that all makes sense of course. Kallen fans are right as usual.

* sigh stop it dann with the kallen stuff

[Dann of Thursday]

* sigh stop it dann with the kallen stuff

That's the first defeatist thing I've said in a while. And since this is a Kallen fan dominated forum, it is likely that they will end up being right in many cases since they are analyzing all this and such.

Sorry about Shirley by the way. Both picked the wrong one I suppose.

[hanseo]

That's the first defeatist thing I've said in a while. And since this is a Kallen fan dominated forum, it is likely that they will end up being right in many cases since they are analyzing all this and such.

Sorry about Shirley by the way. Both picked the wrong one I suppose.

but i chose cc and shirley so i have hope for cc

[Dann of Thursday]

but i chose cc and shirley so i have hope for cc

I know, which is why I said sorry. I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment to be honest. They just keep making it more clear she's nothing but a maternal figure.

[gabbytay]

I know, which is why I said sorry. I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment to be honest. They just keep making it more clear she's nothing but a maternal figure.

But where's the proof??:rolleyes:

Edit : also this is not a kallen fan dominated thread look at the vote ratio, it's just most C.C fans are not worried about C.C

[Stretch5920]

The only thing I really disagree with in Var's little thing, is the crane Nunnally throws being Kallen. It's her's and Euphie's dream/wish.

[Dann of Thursday]

But where's the proof??:rolleyes:

Edit : also this is not a kallen fan dominated thread look at the vote ratio, it's just most C.C fans are not worried about C.C

Don't need it. There are more vocal Kallen fans here than any other. You can say I have no proof, but that won't reall change anything.

Those polls also show Var and some others as voting for LelouchXC.C.. They are extremely outated and say nothing at all.

[demon_god04]

The only thing I really disagree with in Var's little thing, is the crane Nunnally throws being Kallen. It's her's and Euphie's dream/wish.

It could be both, she releases the crane and it goes towards a flock of black birds. She is entrusting Kallen and Lelouch to fulfill her and Euphie's dream, and releasing Kallen back to her brother.

[zalem]

I can't believe people are even taking the ED seriously. It's CLAMP it means nothing. It's pretty art with no substance behind it. CLAMP are not responsible for the plot of the series afterall. I mean think about the previous ED....did ANY of that have any real meaning behind it? No...

I don't see C.C.XLulu happening....they haven't been developed at all this season and to throw it in after 13 would be tremendously awkward. There is simply no time to develop it realistically at this point. That doesn't mean they can't do it, but I think it would be very poor writing and development on their part if they did. Unless they announce season 3...then all bets are off. He could end up with anyone in that case...

Even though Kallen and Lulu had slight development this season, I have a hard time seeing them in a romantic relationship too. Especially with her off being held captive.

[demon_god04]

It's not like we are holding it as gospel or something, we are just interpreting some scenes that, to us, hold some symbolism that may be able to be applied to the show. In the end how you interpret them is up to you, but there is no need to completely dismiss it either.

[zalem]

I don't know....the previous ED had no real meaning behind it, so I see no reason to treat this one any differently. The OP has more meaning then the ED imho.

[Dann of Thursday]

It isn't happening and I've known that for some time now. It's pretty much confirmed now that nothing will ever happen between those two anyway.

It's either Kallen or no one. I think it would be rushing things a bit to have her be the one, but I'll probably be wrong.

[zalem]

I don't think it's going to be Kallen either. Not enough time left to develop that.

[Stretch5920]

Lelouch is most likley going to die. And he will hate C.C next episode too. He's childish and will lash out because Shirley died from Geass.

[Var]

Lelouch is most likley going to die. And he will hate C.C next episode too. He's childish and will lash out because Shirley died from Geass.

I'm starting to doubt that scenario. It looks more like his role will be to succeed his father. Also, if Nunally is alive at the end, I can't help but see Lelouch alive as well.

[Avira]

I think both of them have a chance.I mean, anything can happen.
I personally believe(and hope) it will be something like the end of season one( which was C.C.xLelouch all the way)
Besides, I think C.C. needs Lelouch more than Kallen does and the two fit nicely:)
C.C. is in my mind a too big obstacle for KallenxLelouch, but C.C. is a typical ''dying character", so if she dies, it could change everything...

...unless Lelouch dies too, of course.Basically Sunrise(or whoever) has the choice.:uhoh:So it's sort of stupid to say:"It can only be Kallen/C.C.!!"

[Dann of Thursday]

I truly hope Lelouch does not become the new Emperor or something like that.

Since he'll hate C.C., I don't think it is possible for anything to happen at all and they've been way too intent on making the maternal relationship clear to the viewers.

I agree with you on the third point, but that's just the C.C. fan talking.

C.C. has always been likely to die and I don't think she presents any sort of obstacle.

[Avira]

Why should he hate C.C.? He wanted Geass and agreed to the contract after all.

Somehow I'm starting to think it's best if Lelouch dies-.-

[KrimzonStriker]

Why should he hate C.C.? He wanted Geass and agreed to the contract after all.

Somehow I'm starting to think it's best if Lelouch dies-.-

He'll get over this I have a feeling, like with what happened to Mao. It'll take more but I have a feeling Lelouch will come back stronger once this debacle with the Cult is over >_>

[zgmf-x19a]

I guess he didn't take C.C's words seriously he thought only those he considered really close to him such as Nunnally and Euphemia were the ones likely to suffer. He ended up killing Euphemia and Shirley who he thought had secured by erasing her memories got involved again I wonder if he isn't just going to avoid getting into any romance as Lelouch anymore.His Zero persona so far has no romance though it's a one-sided self-claimed one (Kaguya).

[Var]

I guess he didn't take C.C's words seriously he thought only those he considered really close to him such as Nunnally and Euphemia were the ones likely to suffer. He ended up killing Euphemia and Shirley who he thought had secured by erasing her memories got involved again I wonder if he isn't just going to avoid getting into any romance as Lelouch anymore.His Zero persona so far has no romance though it's a one-sided self-claimed one (Kaguya).

If Romance is going to happen, its going to take a large initiative on the females part to have him open his eyes again. At this point, I can only see Kallen doing that.

[Nilie]

Let's begin:
OP:
0:00-0:05: Blue stuff! Fascinating, very colorful.
0:05-0:10: We see Lelouch in glorious light and the Geass activating.
0:10-0:20: The interesting image of three figures on a cliff side overlooking the castle appears. Moving past that: I believe we see the four main players in this second half of the plot aside from Lelouch. C.C., Schneizel, Suzaku, and Nunally. They've been getting screen time already or have been getting development to bring them into the forefront. I think that this OP is signaling that development. In a way, we can think of it as the five sides to a large scale conflict.
0:20-0:25: Code Geass!
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Last two scenes I am simply confused by at the moment, though out should note that Suzaku has stone wings behind him. Perhaps he does die.

Woo, long post is long! I'll update this at some point in time.

This post made me do both: Laugh and think. XD Nice one Var. You got me worried about Suzaku now though...

[Stretch5920]

Why should he hate C.C.? He wanted Geass and agreed to the contract after all.-

just like just about ever other Geass user she had. I know C.C shippers like to go on about how she'll be the only left beside him, they always tend to leave out the part that all the other Geass users who ended up alone like that either hated C.C or went nuts like Mao.

Lelouch is gonna single in the end. If he's happy or whatever, he'll be with Nunnally and Suzaku.

Yaoifangirl ending.

[Avira]

.
Lelouch is gonna single in the end. If he's happy or whatever, he'll be with Nunnally and Suzaku.

Yaoifangirl ending.

LOL I think that would probably be the best solution(even though I don't support yaoi at all):heh:

[zgmf-x19a]

I'm against incest and yaoi in this anime so ......
I'd rather he end up with Kallen :D or C.C :)

[ptoss1]

anya and lelouch

[ptoss1]

i bet my life that lelouch is going to end up with anya

[DeotoxSlayer]

anya and lelouch

i bet my life that lelouch is going to end up with anya

So you support incest and/or Oedipus Complex's in Code Geass then.

[zalem]

I don't think anya and lelouch will get together at all. Unless you want a badly written story. They have had little to no interaction afterall.

[Dann of Thursday]

*sigh*Lelouch may have been angry at C.C. before but it was never with so much hate that he wanted to kill her. The pairing is dead and gone like Kallen fans have been saying for so very long. Hell, we couldn't even hope for some sort of confession by her to him while she is dying since Shirley already had that. Besides, I doubt he would even care.

It's either Kallen, nothing at all, or some open ended that leaves only Kallen as an option so people can come up with fantasies about how they could end up together.

[Silver Soul]

*sigh*Lelouch may have been angry at C.C. before but it was never with so much hate that he wanted to kill her. The pairing is dead and gone like Kallen fans have been saying for so very long. Hell, we couldn't even hope for some sort of confession by her to him while she is dying since Shirley already had that. Besides, I doubt he would even care.

It's either Kallen, nothing at all, or some open ended that leaves only Kallen as an option so people can come up with fantasies about how they could end up together.

Your really set up on this Kallen thing huh Dann well I still believe he ends up alone since Shirley was his only chance of moving on while C.C. would definitely hold him back and Kallen I just don't like

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

It's either Kallen, nothing at all, or some open ended that leaves only Kallen as an option so people can come up with fantasies about how they could end up together.

Probably. If they want to leave it sorta open with Kallen still an option, there's always the possiibity of a return to Ashford att he end of the story - it won't be perfect as such, because at least one (and maybe more) of the orignal "cast" will be missing, but at least it'd be something to return to. After all, as someone pointed out, it'd be a bitter irony if Lelouch succeeded in gathering the people who weren't there for the next fireworks event, but failed to do so with those who actually were there, at that time. Might leave a lesson that you shouldn't try to grab for more than you already have, because then you might lose what you already have - or something... :uhoh:

[hanseo]

* sigh let's just say it's going to open ended with cc, kallen.kaguya, anya being a option or he will be single

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Kallen seems the most likely, but I think I have to agree with Silver SOul that he will somehow end up alone in a sense. The way things have been playing out it just doesn't seem like he is going to get into any sort of relationship at this point.

[Dann of Thursday]

Your really set up on this Kallen thing huh Dann well I still believe he ends up alone since Shirley was his only chance of moving on while C.C. would definitely hold him back and Kallen I just don't like

I wish I could enjoy that fact like the majority of this forum. I love how C.C. is always "holding him back from moving on" or some other negative viewpoint and such.

Kallen's the only option left in this series and she pretty much wins no matter what. Even if he isn't with anyone in the end the option will still be there so people can imagine it happening.

Not liking Kallen doesn't make her chances bad or anything and I'd watch saying such a thing here. Don't want to have anyone come and start yelling at you.

[Eliarine]

Let's not forget that Sunrise loves fanservice. Best fanservice end? Open ending where Lelouch could end up with almost anyone left in the cast as long as you've got imagination. :cool:

...that or he'll just be alone.

[Calth]

Might leave a lesson that you shouldn't try to grab for more than you already have, because then you might lose what you already have - or something... :uhoh:

It kinda seems that this is starting to be one of the themes of the show.

[Dann of Thursday]

Well, they already screwed Shirley and C.C. fans over. I don't think they'll risk doing it with the last group. If anything, they'll get the open ended option.

[Silver Soul]

Well, they already screwed Shirley and C.C. fans over. I don't think they'll risk doing it with the last group. If anything, they'll get the open ended option.

well that's always the best option, let the fan picture who he chooses (unless something happens to Kallen with Suzaku)

[bbduece]

Well I was cheering for shirley since she seems the most normal and if i had to choose between them three Shirley probably come out on top even though the other two is depicted as "hotter" (my view).

I have a feeling that C.C. might sacrifice herself to save Lelouch since the assumption is that C.C. can't die. And we know how twists in stories work, by countering assumptions.

[thespringmoon]

lulz. I don't even know where people are pulling LelouchxAnya from.

I really don't think Lelouch should end up with anyone else after Shirley. I'm not saying this because I was a fan of LelouchxShirley before, but it just seems... wrong? for him to move on in this season so fast to someone else.

If there is a season three, then it's a possibilty, but I'm seeing LelouchxNo one for the rest of this season.

[Silver Soul]

lulz. I don't even know where people are pulling LelouchxAnya from.

I really don't think Lelouch should end up with anyone else after Shirley. I'm not saying this because I was a fan of LelouchxShirley before, but it just seems... wrong? for him to move on in this season so fast to someone else.

If there is a season three, then it's a possibilty, but I'm seeing LelouchxNo one for the rest of this season.

Let's kick Anya out the door thank you, all they have on her is a picture

[nanatsusaya]

What's the point of discussing now if Kallen's fans are going to dump everything related to C.C. as maternal/partnership aspect and explain the recent lack of Kallen as saving her character for smt big later? :uhoh: That's just as bias if not more than C.C.'s fan.

I'm still holding on the idea that they build up Kallen's character only to serve later as a big blow to Lelouch, adding to the curse 'Geass will make him lonely in the end', as Euphie & Shirley already sacrificed.

Kallen's not the only option to fantasize about. There's much more LelouchxCC fanfic/art out there than LelouchxKallen :rolleyes:

[bbduece]

lulz. I don't even know where people are pulling LelouchxAnya from.

I really don't think Lelouch should end up with anyone else after Shirley. I'm not saying this because I was a fan of LelouchxShirley before, but it just seems... wrong? for him to move on in this season so fast to someone else.

If there is a season three, then it's a possibilty, but I'm seeing LelouchxNo one for the rest of this season.

Why wouldnt it be fair to move on "so quick"? Its not like his heart belong to Shirley alone. And plus, some recent episodes show that Lelouch is attracted to Kallen by his flirts and that scene when he try to kiss her to comfort himself and you normally only do that to people your are attracted to on some level. Also, Lelouch moving to another of the females of this harem doesnt mean he loves shirley any less than what he already has for her.

As for C.C., I don't reconize any major moments that show mutual romanctic feelings, seems like C.C. is attracted to Lelouch but Lelouch has yet to show some substantial evidence he has romanctic feeling for C.C..

[Silver Soul]

What's the point of discussing now if Kallen's fans are going to dump everything related to C.C. as maternal/partnership aspect and explain the recent lack of Kallen as saving her character for smt big later? :uhoh:

I'm still holding on the idea that they build up Kallen's character only to serve later as a big blow to Lelouch, adding to the curse 'Geass will make him lonely in the end', as Euphie & Shirley already sacrificed.

Kallen's not the only option to fantasize about. There's much more LelouchxCC fanfic/art out there than LelouchxKallen :rolleyes:

Hey I what Kallen to end up with Suzaku but that's just asking for trouble around these parts

[Dann of Thursday]

well that's always the best option, let the fan picture who he chooses (unless something happens to Kallen with Suzaku)

A best option would have all three still alive in the end and as options. Shirley is dead and Lelouch despises C.C. beyond all reason. The only people who could ever benefit in the end are Kallen fans and no matter what they win in the end.

Nothing will ever happen between those two.

Well I was cheering for shirley since she seems the most normal and if i had to choose between them three Shirley probably come out on top even though the other two is depicted as "hotter" (my view).

I have a feeling that C.C. might sacrifice herself to save Lelouch since the assumption is that C.C. can't die. And we know how twists in stories work, by countering assumptions.

I've never seen C.C. depicted as "hotter" and I think that no one should pick a pairing based on such a fact.

She will die somehow. I don't see why Lelouch would care much after recent events though.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

It kinda seems that this is starting to be one of the themes of the show.

Well, it has kinda been this way since season 1...

Well, they already screwed Shirley and C.C. fans over. I don't think they'll risk doing it with the last group. If anything, they'll get the open ended option.

Hey, IF they want to screw us up, then they will. They could as Silver soul says have something happen between Kallen and Suzaku (unlikely as though it may seem, thoiugh fact is that now if ever they'll be able ti interact) - or have something else getting in the way, who knows...? :uhoh:

[thedonkiluminati]

Hey I what Kallen to end up with Suzaku but that's just asking for trouble around these parts

LMAO if that happened. I think the Kallen fans would start a riot.

[yezhanquan]

Kallen-Suzaku. Very hard to pull off, from all angles concerned.

[Major1138]

It kinda seems that this is starting to be one of the themes of the show.

Heck, right at the begininng, when he made his "contract" with C.C., she tells him that the "power of the king" would leave him alone in the end.

[yezhanquan]

Heck, right at the begininng, when he made his "contract" with C.C., she tells him that the "power of the king" would leave him alone in the end.

And he treated it like a joke. Oh boy....

[Dann of Thursday]

Hey, IF they want to screw us up, then they will. They could as Silver soul says have something happen between Kallen and Suzaku (unlikely as though it may seem, thoiugh fact is that now if ever they'll be able ti interact) - or have something else getting in the way, who knows...? :uhoh:

They won't. Nothing will happen with Suzaku and even in the event of an open ending, you win.

[hanseo]

suzaku x kallen ftw yeah

[Silver Soul]

A best option would have all three still alive in the end and as options. Shirley is dead and Lelouch despises C.C. beyond all reason. The only people who could ever benefit in the end are Kallen fans and no matter what they win in the end.

Nothing will ever happen between those two.


No offense Dann but the same can be said for Lelouch and Kallen especially in the end so don't assume because a few romantic scenes in the season can change the tide overall, maybe something will happen we Lelouch finally decides to rescue her and maybe not we'll wait and see

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

LMAO if that happened. I think the Kallen fans would start a riot.

Maybe :heh:
Still, for Suzaku and Kallen, I can imagine that they might reestablish their friendship - just as Lelouch and Suzaku may reestablish theirs if we're lucky, but going as far as to pair'em off may be to go a bit too far IMO (as yezhanquan says, hard to pull off from all angles). Anyway, if not Lelocuh, then I thinkt he only "romance" we might see would be Ohgi and Viletta, the rest of the characters including Lelouch may well end up singles...

[thespringmoon]

Why wouldnt it be fair to move on "so quick". Its not like his heart belong to Shirley alone. And plus a recent episode show that Lelouch is attracted to Kallen by his flirts and that scene when he try to kiss her to comfort himself and you normally do that to people your are attracted to on some levels. Also, Lelouch moving to another of the females of this harem doesnt mean he loves hirley any less than what he already has for her.

Didn't say it wouldn't be 'fair'. It's not like I'm wishing Lelouch to be alone for the rest of his days. It just seems wrong. Everyone can say what they will, but I truly believe that given more time, Lelouch could've probably developed a serious relationship with Shirley. And I'd like to think that he already had dormant feelings about her that are going to prevent him from moving on within ten+ episodes.

I don't want to even get into that scene where he tries to kiss her. To me, that's not love, affection, or attraction. It was just a pitiful move on his part.

And it seems I've missed these scenes where he's flirting with Kallen... oh well.

[Silver Soul]

Didn't say it wouldn't be 'fair'. It's not like I'm wishing Lelouch to be alone for the rest of his days. It just seems wrong. Everyone can say what they will, but I truly believe that given more time, Lelouch could've probably developed a serious relationship with Shirley. And I'd like to think that he already had dormant feelings about her that are going to prevent him from moving on within ten+ episodes.

I don't want to even get into that scene where he tries to kiss her. To me, that's not love, affection, or attraction. It was just a pitiful move on his part.

And it seems I've missed these scenes where he's flirting with Kallen... oh well.

Those we can do without, they just slowed the plot down a notch

[Dynzel]

[...] And it seems I've missed these scenes where he's flirting with Kallen... oh well.

Oh, no, "flirting" isn't the right word for those situations. More like teasing.

[Eliarine]

I don't want to even get into that scene where he tries to kiss her. To me, that's not love, affection, or attraction. It was just a pitiful move on his part.

And it seems I've missed these scenes where he's flirting with Kallen... oh well.

We think alike, and we apparently share the same eye condition for not seeing said flirting scenes.

[bbduece]

A best option would have all three still alive in the end and as options. Shirley is dead and Lelouch despises C.C. beyond all reason. The only people who could ever benefit in the end are Kallen fans and no matter what they win in the end.

Nothing will ever happen between those two.



I've never seen C.C. depicted as "hotter" and I think that no one should pick a pairing based on such a fact.

She will die somehow. I don't see why Lelouch would care much after recent events though.

We don't live in your world and I think people can and will pick pairings base on what ever feelings and notions they have. If your saying that is superficial to do so, than thats your logic but not mine. I choose food that taste good not disgusting and bland. I like to do things that I'm attracted to (or with). Attraction gives off appeal, gives off purpose, supports the drive. I know that some people avoid delicious and healthy seafood cuz it looks disgusting but whom am I to tell them they can't do that.

Certain things are good advise and certain things are just a limitation of one's reality.

[Major1138]

And he treated it like a joke. Oh boy....

Well I'm not sure he treated is a joke, but rather he considered a price he was willing to pay. He even says that if he didn't take the deal, he'd be dead anyways, so he can only move forwards.

But I think in R2 he's come to realize that his struggle isn't just for Nunnally, and maybe his friends are part of the better world he hopes to build. When it was just for Nunnally, as long as she was safe, everything else was more or less expendable, and the downside in his Geass bargain (being alone in the end) wasn't such a harsh price to pay. Now? Not so much.

[prototype_sky]

Kallen-Suzaku. Very hard to pull off, from all angles concerned.

With fiction anything is possible hence why it's fiction. After they put Shin and Luna together in GDS I won't put anything past Sunrise

[Dann of Thursday]

As for C.C., I don't reconize any major moments that show mutual romanctic feelings, seems like C.C. is attracted to Lelouch but Lelouch has yet to show some substantial evidence he has romanctic feeling for C.C..

There were never any. He never did, never could, and never will have anything in the way of feelings for C.C.. Especially with recent events. Fans would likely be disappointed if they pulled such a thing off anyway .

No offense Dann but the same can be said for Lelouch and Kallen especially in the end so don't assume because a few romantic scenes in the season can change the tide overall, maybe something will happen we Lelouch finally decides to rescue her and maybe not we'll wait and see

Can it? Meh, the rescue doesn't matter anymore. Shirley is dead, Lelouch wants C.C. dead, and Kallen is still there with unresolved feelings. I can't even imagine the amount of complaining if they didn't address that.

[yezhanquan]

With fiction anything is possible hence why it's fiction. After they put Shin and Luna together in GDS I won't put anything past Sunrise

Oh, THAT pair. I don't see CG being that screwed up.

[Var]

To be perfectly fair, a lot of the ideas thrown around now are what I'd like to call the GS-syndrome... or in simpler terms, stupid.


Hey I what Kallen to end up with Suzaku but that's just asking for trouble around these parts

You make it sound like someone will attack you. Is it wrong for someone to question an idea they find incomprehesibly idioitic? If someone questions you, defend the point, don't just hide behind some facade of 'you don't respect my ideas'. If an idea is to be respected, it needs to be backed up.

I'm tempted to say that the entire KallenxSuzaku idea would never have existed if Gundam Seed didn't implant into people's minds the idiotic ways of how romance works.

[DeotoxSlayer]

Lelouch wants C.C. dead

No he doesn't that's just your opinionon the matter.

[Dann of Thursday]

This is Taniguchi, not Sunrise that is directing this show.

No he doesn't that's just your opinionon the matter.

Actually, it's not simply that. He does want her dead as you will see soon enough.

[DarkLordOfkichiku]

I'm tempted to say that the entire KallenxSuzaku idea would never have existed if Gundam Seed didn't implant into people's minds the idiotic ways of how romance works.

Certainly, Athrun X Cagali is part of what put the idea into people's minds in the first place. And had that island-scene not happened, people might not even have considered it a possiiblity, but because it did and because of Athrun X Cagali, they do... :heh:

[DeotoxSlayer]

Actually, it's not simply that. He does want her dead as you will see soon enough.

Do you have even 1 shred of proof for that.

[Dann of Thursday]

Most pairings besides LelouchXKallen and maybe LelouchXShirley are probably the result of people thinking on the level of SEED.

Do you have even 1 shred of proof for that.

Yes I do and plenty know about it already. Can't say exactly what it is here though.

[DeotoxSlayer]

Most pairings besides LelouchXKallen and maybe LelouchXShirley are probably the result of people thinking on the level of SEED.

Im sorry but your really in denial about quite a few things. Even the most diehard Kalulu fans i've met have admitted to me that they've seen a few interactions between Lelouch and C.C which seem romantic.

[thespringmoon]

I think you might have spoiled Lelouch hating C.C.

:0

[bbduece]

Im sorry but your really in denial about quite a few things. Even the most diehard Kalulu fans i've met have admitted to me that they've seen a few interactions between Lelouch and C.C which seem romantic.

I've seen C.C. giving off the love vibe towards Lelouch but I don't remember Lelouch giving of the romance vibe towards C.C.. That time when they shaked hands on the roof was the closes. Lelouch knows he is bound to C.C., but is that romance I am still unsure.

[Dann of Thursday]

Im sorry but your really in denial about quite a few things. Even the most diehard Kalulu fans i've met have admitted to me that they've seen a few interactions between Lelouch and C.C which seem romantic.

No, I'm not. And I would love to meet these diehard fans you speak of.

I've seen C.C. giving off the love vibe towards Lelouch but I don't remember Lelouch giving of the romance vibe towards C.C.. That time when they shaked hands on the roof was the closes. Lelouch knows he is bound to C.C., but is that romance I am still unsure.

Well, even C.C. is arguable though I would agree ( I can't wait to have someone come and say why it is wrong for me to agree) about her. Nothing at any point with Lelouch though which sort of makes sense since he never really was interested in anyone.

[Eliarine]

I'm tempted to say that the entire KallenxSuzaku idea would never have existed if Gundam Seed didn't implant into people's minds the idiotic ways of how romance works.

Oh, you're doing it again. Just because you think it's stupid doesn't make it stupid. What I find "idiotic" though, is to completely dismiss a pairing when we still have half a season to go. Stuff can happen. People can change. They probably won't end up together, but it's not your call to decide "how romance works".

But I'm not going to try and defend the possibility of it happening again, so let's move on. :rolleyes:

Also, I've never seen Gundam Seed. :D

[yezhanquan]

Oh, you're doing it again. Just because you think it's stupid doesn't make it stupid. What I find "idiotic" though, is to completely dismiss a pairing when we still have half a season to go. Stuff can happen. People can change. They probably won't end up together, but it's not your call to decide "how romance works".

But I'm not going to try and defend the possibility of it happening again, so let's move on. :rolleyes:

Also, I've never seen Gundam Seed. :D

It's probably better that you don't, since the sequel was really bad, and the first one wasn't super.

Besides, I think the side characters will have their romances. Cecil and Lloyd: Still looking forward to it.

[bbduece]

Oh, you're doing it again. Just because you think it's stupid doesn't make it stupid. What I find "idiotic" though, is to completely dismiss a pairing when we still have half a season to go. Stuff can happen. People can change. They probably won't end up together, but it's not your call to decide "how romance works".

But I'm not going to try and defend the possibility of it happening again, so let's move on. :rolleyes:

Also, I've never seen Gundam Seed. :D

I think Var is using some sunrise romance plot trends to make some predictions and comparisons.

But yea, thinking it is stupid doesnt make it stupid.

[thespringmoon]

Cecil and Lloyd: Still looking forward to it.

mhm! I'm still trying to decide if that look she was giving him while he was watching Millay on the T.V. was a look of concern or longing. :]

I think I'm just going to start looking at romances of the side characters from now on. At least some of them are hooking up.

[Dann of Thursday]

The only other romance I ever expect this series to touch on would be VilettaXOugi (if that one is even an option anymore with the lack of time spent on it) and ToudouXChiba.

[DeotoxSlayer]

ToudouXAsahina (Sp?).

uh......Unless you'd wantto have some Yaoi action go on in Code Geass I think you mean ToudohxChiba:heh::heh::heh:

[Silver Soul]

The only other romance I ever expect this series to touch on would be VilettaXOugi (if that one is even an option anymore with the lack of time spent on it) and ToudouXAsahina (Sp?).

I don't see a happy with Toudou and Chiba since Toudou is a character I'd most likely see dying before the end of the season. Dann I didn't know you were into yaoi

[hanseo]

lelouch x nina or lelouch x kaguya ready GO flame on

[DeotoxSlayer]

I don't see a happy with Toudou and Asahina (Chiba) since Toudou is a character I'd most likely see dying before the end of the season.

You do know that Asahina is the guy in the Shishiken with the Glasses right:heh::heh::heh:

[Silver Soul]

You do know that Asahina is the guy in the Shishiken with the Glasses right:heh::heh::heh:

I did that's why I edit it :D Dann apparently didn't

[yezhanquan]

lelouch x nina or lelouch x kaguya ready GO flame on

This one's not too bad, actually. But, I don't think we need a pic with Kaguya semi-dressed and Lulu (with a black box around his eyes) trying to get fresh with her.

[gabbytay]

lelouch x nina or lelouch x kaguya ready GO flame on

LL X Nina is fine i think? Lelouch X Kaguya i think lelouch has enough stamina to keep up with Kaguya:heh::heh::heh::heh: