The Raki discussion

[Zsych]

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LOL - literally.

Well Priscilla wasn't really a bad kid. Raki though... I'm not sure he'd be worth anything at all as a human now. Just wouldn't fit into the cast. He'd be like *and this is #48!*, if he were in the group. I'm pretty much betting that he returns as a replacement for Rigardo(possibly still unawakened).
Having been made into a Claymore and escaped to wander after realizing that Isley expected him to Awaken(but stopping himself before actually doing it), might be better, in that he could at least rejoin the group.

Somehow the manga conversation where Raki asks Isley to teach him and Isley is impressed by Raki's attitude, and actually says that Raki might become strong, seems to tell me that Raki will actually become strong(and strong enough to survive the kind of measely youma that he and Clare met at Rabona is not strong)

[Anima]

I definitely think that Raki will get his own arc showing us how he developed during his search for Clare.

I like the idea of him possessing enough strength to kill yoma altho his main disadvantage is that he can't distinguish them when they are disguising in human form.

[Flar]

Raki searching for Clare and fighting some Youmas along the way. Depending the training he got from Easley, he could become the only human who is a match for Youmas... with the strenght of a #47 Claymore without using youki power-ups. That would totally suck. The point of Claymore so far was that humans are no match for yomas, so having a boy become strong enough to take down yomas with just a little training makes the creation of Claymores and their org pointless and dangerous to the world.

Anyway, staying human, Raki should be no stronger than Galk or Sid, but even if he was as strong as chapter 1 Clare, he would be utterly unable to detect Yoki and be vulnerable to even minor wounds. He then should die in his first fight, after being sneak attacked and being left bleeding to death. Only way to survive would be to have a Miata by his side, and run for it when needed.

[wtfftw]

I dislike raki alot basiclaly i hate em and i think that making raki as a human strong enough to kill a youma would ruin the show for me. because thats the job of claymores unless he goes claymore or has soem link to get clare back to human form when she goes berserk i dont like wanna see any raki at all.

Im glad the authors also think the same and left him out of the story simply cuz he is gay. its as what the 2nd or 3rd poster said he is making it harder on the battlefield for clare also its only war and fighting its not an emotionally show that involves ethics and all that crap.

It youma who kills humans we got to take em out plain and simple and badass fighting thats why i at least watch it. Raki doenst add anything significant to the storyline other then that he revert back clare in the mange once.

[Sci-Fi]

That would be an interesting pairing...Raki and Miata. Time skip Raki should be less whinny and a bit more confident, if not a bit more physically stronger for a human. Wonder what Yagi has in mind for Raki with all that sword training? Think Raki would be more formidable if he was using his cooking knives as weapons. It would be different and he would be more familiar and comfortable using chef knives and cleavers since he is a cook.

[Anima]

I dislike raki alot basiclaly i hate em and i think that making raki as a human strong enough to kill a youma would ruin the show for me. because thats the job of claymores unless he goes claymore or has soem link to get clare back to human form when she goes berserk i dont like wanna see any raki at all.

Im glad the authors also think the same and left him out of the story simply cuz he is gay. its as what the 2nd or 3rd poster said he is making it harder on the battlefield for clare also its only war and fighting its not an emotionally show that involves ethics and all that crap.

It youma who kills humans we got to take em out plain and simple and badass fighting thats why i at least watch it. Raki doenst add anything significant to the storyline other then that he revert back clare in the mange once.
I don't understand from where all this hate for Raki comes. In the anime, his reactions where events strayed from the manga were very bad and indeed he was hateable. But in the manga, he is pretty decent IMO.

Raki would never be insignificant. His saving of Clare holds so much significance in itself because the Clare we have now, is thanks to Raki. She half-awakened and awakened Teresa's yoki flow detection powers in herself, thanks to Raki. Clare's looking for Raki is also a sign of significance. The heroine of Claymore is looking for him, damn it! :D

The long ignoring of Raki so far is nothing but to make for a great arc later on IMO. Yagi didn't leave Raki out forever, trust me. He didn't :cool:

If Raki's strength was really improved, I think he will near Clarice level but a bit weaker.

[[thousandmaster]]

Personally, I rather have Raki stay human but even so, a part of me wants him to get claymore-like powers so he could help and protect Clare. However, him staying human would be more meaningful for Clare. And show her that he hasn't been slacking off in the past seven years by mastering his swordskills.

I have a hunch there's gonna be a Clare/Clarice rivalry going on for Raki, but that's just me. :naughty:

[PGilis]

That would totally suck. The point of Claymore so far was that humans are no match for yomas, so having a boy become strong enough to take down yomas with just a little training makes the creation of Claymores and their org pointless and dangerous to the world.

Anyway, staying human, Raki should be no stronger than Galk or Sid, but even if he was as strong as chapter 1 Clare, he would be utterly unable to detect Yoki and be vulnerable to even minor wounds. He then should die in his first fight, after being sneak attacked and being left bleeding to death. Only way to survive would be to have a Miata by his side, and run for it when needed.

A little training with one of the most powerful creatures in the world! :p

Besides, even if one human become powerful enough to defeat youmas, he is only one, and there's still the problem of A.O.s. There's no way any human - even an army - could defeat them, left alone Priscilla or the Abissals! The only who can fight them are the Claymores.

And, as you said, even if Raki become powerful enough to defeat youmas, he can't sense yoki... but he can still become a man worth of Clare! :naughty:

[Anh_Minh]

The pet gerbil of the greatest fighter in the world is still nothing but a gerbil. It can't take down a cat.

[Zsych]

Is a man a girl has to protect every five seconds and who can't help her in any important situation a man worthy of her???

Without Claymore strength you don't even have the benefit of being able to use a sword powerful enough to harm to stronger youma, and decent AB aren't even harmed by strikes from Claymore easily.

Still... imagining Raki as a sword-saint of some kind(I am Raki-Kensei... :P)... in a sense it would be similar to the Exorcists in D Gray Man, who with the exception of Allen can't usually sense Akuma and thus have to consider all humans as potential enemies. That would be an interesting story, although it would distract from the story in Claymore.

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As for my wanting a 60 page chapter, its because I don't actually expect the fight to end in one more chapter, and post fight story development would thus likely end up happening 2-3 months from now, which would be depressing.

[Tempest35]

The pet gerbil of the greatest fighter in the world is still nothing but a gerbil. It can't take down a cat.

But it can make the cat chase it through a pipe that gets the cat stuck.

[chibamonster]

Raki is in a very different situation than any other human we have seen. Isley did seem sincere when he said he could help Raki become powerful. Personal training from one of the most powerful beings in the entire world is a little different than poor chibi Clare's abusive relationship with the youma who kept her as a toy/pet. If anyone could provide Raki with a high standard to train with it would be Isley. Although Isley telling Raki that he could become powerful is really saying something. How could any human be viewed as powerful at all from the stand point of an Ancient Abyssal?

I just had an idea about this. If Raki's determination was what convinced Isley that he could become powerful it might actually be saying something about the claymorization process itself. We know that a claymores emotions play a huge part in their development as in whether they are offensive or defensive. What if their determination also plays apart in their survival of the hybridization process? If that were the case then maybe hybridization is not so much about archane science but instead having someone who could actually take it and not crack. It does not seem that the organization weeds out their warriors like crazy. I wonder how many actually survive the pain. If surviving becoming a claymore was mostly based on determination then Isley may not have been patronizing poor human Raki. Just an idea though.

There has to be a reason Isley said that to Raki though. Unless he was just lying to keep Raki close and Priscilla pacified. That is also a definite possibility. I am actually looking forward to seeing Raki again

[Guido]

There has to be a reason Isley said that to Raki though. Unless he was just lying to keep Raki close and Priscilla pacified. That is also a definite possibility. I am actually looking forward to seeing Raki again

I more inclined to agree with the second possibility. When Isley met Raki for the first time in the Northern Lands the Abyssal made the observation that Priscilla got very well along with the boy.
Isley seemed just slightly surprised that out of all beings it was a human that made Priscilla to behave friendly or happy, and that human turned out to be Raki.

IMO, Isley is letting Raki to hang around with him and Priscilla because the Abyssal Lord at that moment, immediately, realized that the lad's company both soothed and calmed her down.
Isley knows full well that he cannot control Priscilla to keep her in check, as he fought her before in a losing battle for him. The only way to ensure that Priscilla doesn't go in another rampage is to keep her tamed with something that she can relate to or identify with, and Raki's company (or more specifically his Southern scent), as for now that it has been revealed in the manga storyline, is the only thing which has maintained Priscilla emotionally stable and with the mentality of an innocent, little girl.

[Yorae_paladin1]

That would totally suck. The point of Claymore so far was that humans are no match for yomas, so having a boy become strong enough to take down yomas with just a little training makes the creation of Claymores and their org pointless and dangerous to the world.

Anyway, staying human, Raki should be no stronger than Galk or Sid, but even if he was as strong as chapter 1 Clare, he would be utterly unable to detect Yoki and be vulnerable to even minor wounds. He then should die in his first fight, after being sneak attacked and being left bleeding to death. Only way to survive would be to have a Miata by his side, and run for it when needed.


A strong human would a fresh change for me hell i would even accept Raki making a contract with a devil from hell to gain power as long as he is strong I don't like third wheels and that is what Raki is at the moment. Im tired of humans just being sheep I would preffer them to be beasts and monsters like Guts and drakengards Caim

[Flar]

Wrong serie if you're looking for a badass human, all in all. Even if a normal human somehow became stronger than a Claymore, I think we can agree he would never be at a Ghosts 7 level, thus he would still be a dead weight for the stronger characters.

About Isley training Raki becoming stronger, despite what's portrayed in most mangas, the human body has physiological limits that can not be broken. Claymore manga is all about that fact, Claymores exist because humans cannot compete with Yomas. No matter the training, there is absolutely no way a human will be able to slice through solid stone and steel like bodies, or move faster than the eye can follow, or -most of all- survive the wounds Claymores recieve all the time.

Of course, I can hear you saying it could be overcome with technique. I agree with that. A Raki with a Missile launcher and a Kalashnikov would own Yomas right and left. Hell, even fucking bows would be an upgrade for humans. However, with the sword, it hinges a lot on physical abilities, that Raki has not. Even if he became a super musashi in 7 years, showing genius talent he never had before, the first Claymore/Yoma/AB slashing him, stronger and faster than he can parry or dodge, he's gone. Like a Flora before a Rigaldo. And he doesn't even need to be sliced in half, a glancing blow can do since he cannot heal.

As for Isley's remark that Raki can become powerful, certainly he can, within the scope of humanity. Isley certainly doesn't mean that he can be better than him in human form. ("human" Isley is a bloody #1 Claymore, if Raki became as strong as a #1 with a mere 7 years of training, it would be too lucridous for words. That would mean a Raki about as strong as a Teresa, Prisc, Irene, Miata or Galatea). I would say, for example, that Galk and sid are powerful, for what they are.

[[thousandmaster]]

It doesn't really matter if he isn't at their level (G7) All that matters is for him to protect himself from danger. Once Clare is reunited with Raki and completed her misson, it's gonna be buh-bye G7. ;)

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[Anima]

You think? Clare said that her main reason for traveling to the south wasn't to look for Raki. Her priority one mission is revenge and then Raki comes along the way.

[chibamonster]

Clare's number 1 goal and number 2 goal have been living together for 7 years. I'm pretty sure that she will find out eventually. But if she finds out soon then it would be really difficult to have Priscilla as the real "end boss". There will have to be quite a few enemies in the mean time coming up. The manga really is focused on battles and the events around them so there must be more baddies coming up as most of the old ones are dead. Especially if we are only about halfway through with the series.

[Lights of Euphoria]

I think that Raki now, at least is not so important to Clare. Her first and foremost goal is to turn Priscilla into mush before finding Raki.
Yes, Clare has grown strong over the seven years, but still not strong enough. Raki is now with Isley (if I recall correctly) and will farther improve his...pathetic...swordplay. As long as Clare takes her time developing her skills, Raki will have time to improve with the sword, and become strong as Isley said...
Of course, Yagi might make a turn for the better and make Raki turn into an utter failure...again...
But seriously...It's a monthly manga and there's a long way to go still...we'll have time to find out.

[MercFH]

honestly yeah Raki was kinda annoying, but he wasn't "too bad" like his voice is what gets me, but obviously clare cares deeply for him as he does her.....so whats the harm in that lol?

[[thousandmaster]]

You know, if I were Yagi (which I'm not) I would first have Clare locate Priscilla. Clare defeats her w/ the others, but before she passes on, Priscilla says Raki's name with her last few dying breaths. Clare is shocked and immedately starts asking her questions about him. With much effort, Priscilla manages to say Isley's name and after that, she gone. T.T

Thus, begins the Raki quest. :heh:

[Sci-Fi]

^Problem with that is Raki is only alive because of Priscilla. Raki would become a snack for Isley otherwise.

[PGilis]

I dunno about that. If i remember well, Easley said something about Raki remember himself when he was younger (and still human/claymore).

I believe Priscilla was'nt the only reason because he decided to keep Raki alive.

Anyway, i don't think Clare's top priority is her search for Priscilla or her question for revenge against the Organization right now. I believe she is really searching for Raki, and the others from the Fab-7 group came along. Otherwise, why she came to Rabona - the city where she AND Raki have friends - in the south?

If she wanted revenge against the Organization, the place for her to go is the far east, at the Org's H.Q. If she wanted to find Priscilla first, the best place to go is west. Most likely, Easlay and Priscilla would hunt Riful there.

[Guido]

I dunno about that. If i remember well, Easley said something about Raki remember himself when he was younger (and still human/claymore).

I believe Priscilla was'nt the only reason because he decided to keep Raki alive.

Anyway, i don't think Clare's top priority is her search for Priscilla or her question for revenge against the Organization right now. I believe she is really searching for Raki, and the others from the Fab-7 group came along. Otherwise, why she came to Rabona - the city where she AND Raki have friends - in the south?

If she wanted revenge against the Organization, the place for her to go is the far east, at the Org's H.Q. If she wanted to find Priscilla first, the best place to go is west. Most likely, Easlay and Priscilla would hunt Riful there.

Actually, if Clare chose to want hunting after Priscilla the best place to go is the south, since Isley conquered that territory because it is there where Priscilla's birthplace is located.

[PGilis]

But there's no way Clare or Miria could know about Easley's Plans.

[Mikke]

Raki will surely defend Priscilla when Clare tries to kill her.. Not by pucifying Clare as pathetically as he did in the anime; but even attacking if neseccary.

Seriously, I think he's gonna lose his awe of Clare for not keeping her promise.
I wish it was like: "Ok, what do you think I'm gonna cry on your shoulder like I did when I was a kid? be your cook again? heh, keep dreaming babe! Now I'm dating a far cuter chick with a ferocious appetite.... Well, when I first met her it was a bit too ferocious but I tought her to eat tofu! and she likes it!"

[Synria_]

Raki is important in Clare's life. When I was watching this anime, I was thinking... thank god raki and clare both have each other to care and love for. I was feeling really emotional during the time clare and raki were together, talking, hugging, and looking out for one another. Clare wouldn't have lasted long without Raki looking up to her.

So obviously I don't hate raki and am glad that he somewhat gives clare more confidence.

[Zsych]

Apart from the first almost awakening, she could've done without Raki for the most part. His existence had no significant positive impact besides taking people's attention away from her some.

[Mikke]

Dude, you're saying as if the "first near awakening part" is just some other event in Clare's life....

If it wasn't for that she would've died.... Scratch that, if it wasn't for Raki she would've never gotten to rabona in the first place, cuz he was her ticket there.

[HelloMrBrahms]

haha. I really don't like Raki. as he was intended to be, he is pretty useless in my opinion.

I was hoping he'd become strong by the end of the anime series... -_-;;

[Anh_Minh]

Dude, you're saying as if the "first near awakening part" is just some other event in Clare's life....

If it wasn't for that she would've died.... Scratch that, if it wasn't for Raki she would've never gotten to rabona in the first place, cuz he was her ticket there.
Yes, and without her parents, she wouldn't have been born in the first place. Are they a big part of her life? Not any more.

[Mikke]

Yes, and without her parents, she wouldn't have been born in the first place. Are they a big part of her life? Not any more.

Ok, so you're saying Raki should be viciously devoured by yoma just like her parents were.. too bad, ain't gonna happen.. (even though many people want that)

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

I don't really have a problem with Raki besides the fact that he cries to much for a boy. Still Clare cares about Raki so for her sake I wanted him to return. Plus there parting during the whole ophilia thing was hot.;) No but seriosly I think Raki is importent because he is human. He reminds Clare that she is part humen , just as Clare reminds Teresa.

[Zsych]

Raki returning as a human would be laughable. He'd be useless to the storyline. These are no longer the days of Clare being alone with her idiot support character. The story now seems to be moving towards the main battles, Raki has no place here.

I suppose if he were human though and Clare found him with Priscilla, it would make for an interesting situation.

[Anh_Minh]

Ok, so you're saying Raki should be viciously devoured by yoma just like her parents were.. too bad, ain't gonna happen.. (even though many people want that)

I was just attacking your logic. I don't feel much for Raki one way or another.

[Zsych]

... Personally I have a decent opinion of the manga Raki, but as he was or as a stronger human, he would be useless to the current storyline. There's no reason to expect that we will ever see Clare randomly wandering around with Raki again alone so that the way he used to add to the story can still be meaningful. She has a whole team of friends now that she has shared much more meaningful experience with than she did with Raki.

[Fenrir_valindri]

I personally see the reverse scenario happening.

Priscilla defeats Clare and Company, but Raki steps in and prevents Priscilla from finishing them off. This will either lead to a "second" chance for Clare to get her revenge, or perhaps some other, more blurry, path.

I could also Raki well play a roll in making Claymores more acceptable by humans, but that is about the only role I could see him playing in where he stays human, at least without dying.

[Zsych]

I'm not sure random stooge that nobody has ever heard of has much PR value.
Raki stepping in to a battle between AB Priscilla and Clare.... hmmm.... don't think it'd work. I'd have trouble believing the devourer of cities showing compassion for or listening to Raki in her awakened form, unless he's some non-human being to begin with.

Claymore Raki in service to Isley, I think, has the greatest potential.
If humans weren't so useless against ABs, Raki as leader of a human attack squad supporting the Fab 7 might've been decent.

[Mikke]

In that case he should become other than human.... Maybe riful's magic yoki device can turn him into a yoki user without yoma blood transfusion.

NOT!

[Fenrir_valindri]

I'm not sure random stooge that nobody has ever heard of has much PR value.
Raki stepping in to a battle between AB Priscilla and Clare.... hmmm.... don't think it'd work. I'd have trouble believing the devourer of cities showing compassion for or listening to Raki in her awakened form, unless he's some non-human being to begin with.

Claymore Raki in service to Isley, I think, has the greatest potential.
If humans weren't so useless against ABs, Raki as leader of a human attack squad supporting the Fab 7 might've been decent.

I actually believe Priscilla likes Raki PRECISELY because he is a human, and one that reminds her of her own sibling no less. Devourer of cities Priscilla may not be in charge at this point either, or she possibly wouldn't be for long.

Remember we haven't seen Priscilla eat a single human since she had her scuffle with Isley, we haven't even seen her transform since then either, i'm pretty sure everyone would notice pretty quick if entire towns were still disappearing.

Raki also has some PR value in Rabona at least, and if it is shown that he can be a charismatic figure that has friends in high places (The Rabona church, Claymores).

If you don't think of Raki as charismatic, you have to remember that he has been hanging around Isley for 7 years, and Isley is certainly charismatic.

[Zsych]

I expect a battle between Clare and Priscilla to involve AB Priscilla, not child Priscilla.
As for whatever pulled Priscilla to Raki... it definitely wasn't that he was human. Even Isley commented on its oddity. Priscilla may not eat little girls, but little boys aren't a part of that equation.

Gotta wonder though what she smells in him. Clare's kiss do more than we thought perhaps? :P

As for Raki's having friends in high places in Rabona, what does that have to do with his charisma, that derives from Clare impressing the church. The benefits of Isley's company though could be worthwhile... but not if he ends up a lowly servant/pet character to Isley which is kinda inevitable unless he becomes more than human.

[Anh_Minh]

We haven't seen Isley or Riful eat anyone either. It proves nothing. (And urbicides aren't exactly rare in Claymores...)

[Mikke]

I think you guys are really underestimating humans there.. If Raki becomes really really strong and clever he might just be used for intellegence/covert info gathering missions.... Don't forget that a lot of useful information is actually passed down by gossip and rumor in the human world, and since Isley isn't really into human company anymore then who else can do it?

As for Raki's combat potential, look at how impressive some of the human warriors we saw and their technology; The bandit's leader falcon sword for example. Surely it was no match for Teresa but I'm sure cutting down a lowly hybrid warrior was possible.
I think Cid's ability to lurk behind Agatha like that without her noticing was quite impressive.

I'm sure it's possible for Raki to put into use a row of methods and techniques most probably as a part of Isley's training program, that will allow him to fully exploit the weaknesses of any yoki user; how to calculate their critical spot in case it's not the head or the guts, learn the behavioral pattern of yoma; Like who are they most likely to target first and take their form.. stuff like that..

I'm not saying that he'll become some super ninja Raki but I think that application of plain brain power in some cases can be more sufficient than using yoki; And at the end humans may just learn to hunt yoma using their own heads for a change.
Infact, I'm quite positive that the ORG who are a very smart bunch, could.. figure out a way but they're only doing what's more profitable to them..

[HelloMrBrahms]

humans are too slow to defeat yoma. it's not like all this time they just stood there and let the yoma kill them... of course they would fight back ... to no avail.

[PGilis]

Just my 0.02 cents:

Everyone keeps badmouthing Raki. Why the heck Clare likes him?! After all, he's useless to her, was allways giving her trouble and cries a lot. That's a fact.

But why women in general like/love babies? They too, cry a lot, are useless, unable to take care of themselves, allways hungry or dirty, needing to be clean and fed - with just special food, no less - and give trouble 24 hours a day. Even worse, they can't even say "thank you for all your trouble"!

Little pets like dogs and cats too, are the same. Even so, most women like/love them. Why?

It's not a rational thing... It's a sentimental thing.

Clare likes Raki, not because she truly needs him, but because she simply feel that way about him. Even though he gave her a lot of trouble, after Teresa he's the only person to truly care about her, to make her smile and to do anything in his (veeeeery limited) power to help her.

It's her human heart who decided Raki is special to her... Not her unemotional Claymore brain. In the same way, it's her decision to keep searching for Raki. Her's and Norihiro Yagi's decision. :heh: Maybe Raki still have a very important role to play in future chapters, as a proud and powerful warrior or simply as someone Clare cares about. Let's wait and see.

And besides, there's not many Pet Shops in Claymore-verse. :p

[Mikke]

humans are too slow to defeat yoma. it's not like all this time they just stood there and let the yoma kill them... of course they would fight back ... to no avail.

How do you know?

Think about it, why were there never any yoma in Rabona up untill a certain point? because Rabona has a powerful army and a competent government of priests to protect and care for it's population.... Thus the dogmatic, hostile additude towards anything impure.. The people there believe in a god that protects them, but it's not the god it's the city....

I wonder if there are other cities/kingdoms or whatever in the claymore world.

[HelloMrBrahms]

haha.

if humans could defeat yoma, there would be no need for the claymore.

[Fenrir_valindri]

It could simply be a matter that most humans are never trained to fight Yoma, Galk and Cid did amazingly well considering they were fighting an above-average Yoma.

I imagine those two could indeed take normal Yoma.

The only reason that humans can't defeat Yoma, is because they can't detect them, and thus can easily be ambushed or avoided. A group of trained humans fighting a Yoma straight up would be a very dead Yoma.

[Mikke]

It could simply be a matter that most humans are never trained to fight Yoma, Galk and Cid did amazingly well considering they were fighting an above-average Yoma.

I imagine those two could indeed take normal Yoma.

The only reason that humans can't defeat Yoma, is because they can't detect them, and thus can easily be ambushed or avoided. A group of trained humans fighting a Yoma straight up would be a very dead Yoma.

Comes to think of it, there is absolotely zero attempts on the part of humans to do anything about it. I mean.... The villages are completely deffenseless even against human pirates, raiders whatever....
Organizing a small milicia squad is the least every village leader could do.

[lsley]

A group of trained humans fighting a Yoma straight up would be a very dead Yoma.

i didnt know that someone could be deader as dead :p
but anyway, i think you're right, the yoma in the anime ep 1 says something about the problem of the humans not to be able to find out whos the yoma, so i think there'll be a reason he sais that, if they couldnt kill yomas, why should they hide in human forms?

and after all the rogue slaughtered by theresa would have been able to kill a yoma for shure, if even clarice is...

[PGilis]

Comes to think of it, there is absolotely zero attempts on the part of humans to do anything about it. I mean.... The villages are completely deffenseless even against human pirates, raiders whatever....
Organizing a small milicia squad is the least every village leader could do.

Maybe it lacks $$$$.

To built an army - even a small squad - needs money to buy swords, spears, armors, shields, and something like that. Every city need to find a good instructor too, in order to give proper training to males (even females) and turn them into decent soldiers, too.

But except for Rabona, just every city we saw in the Claymore world is small, isolated and poor. And every penny they could use to built an army they spent hiring the Claymores to hunt youmas for very high prices.

Maybe that's what Miria discovered the Organization is really doing... without anyone know, they're keeping them poor, isolated and controled, taking from them the chance to become independents.

Instead letting them take care of their own problems with youmas, or at least teaching them how to handle the problem themselves, they go there and simply solve their problems for a high price, so every time they need help, they have no other choice except call the Organization again.

Everyone think they are the savior, but actually they're not.

[Tempest35]

It's far too easy for a youma to infiltrate that sort of anti-youma unit and mess it up from within. In fact, they'll find it fun. No, a human fighting unit needs a Claymore-type warrior with them at all times or else they'll just become fodder for an infiltrating youma to come in.

Maybe that's what happened before - if it did, that would demoralize nearly anyone from trying that sort of option ever again. Humans aiding the warriors doesn't nessacarily mean helping them on the battlefield.

If (and when) Miria takes over the ORG, she can have 8-10 warriors grouped together to take care of much larger regions than before without the warriors being loners. This way, the girls know the other ones that are stationed with them and can work more effectively in team situations. This also helps lessen the chances of an accidental Awakening - tougher opponents will be met with larger teams led by the more experienced warriors.

In case of the A-class to S-class level ABs, the ones in charge of that region (ie a member of the Fab 7 whom shall be overseeing their particular areas/regions) will be called in to help deal with it. Any Abyssal-level creature will be met by the top four or more of the Fab 7 themselves. :D

And of course Raki will oversee the PR department of Miria's new ORG - getting the villages and cities to open up their walls to them. By lessening their fears about the 'Claymores', Raki will make sure that the girls are treated fairly and any disciplinary action needed against a warrior will be taken care of by both himself and Raphaela. And if she's alive at the end, Priscilla too. XD

:sigh: I'd REALLY like it if that were to happen...

Also, by having larger waypoints distributed throughout the continent (with the waypoints being set up in the large cities such as Rabona), it will be easier to keep track of everyone and the youma activity.

[Mikke]

And of course Raki will oversee the PR department of Miria's new ORG - getting the villages and cities to open up their walls to them. By lessening their fears about the 'Claymores', Raki will make sure that the girls are treated fairly and any disciplinary action needed against a warrior will be taken care of by both himself and Raphaela. And if she's alive at the end, Priscilla too. XD

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Hahaha!.... I think she would rather make him her architect and have a castle built for her instead of those muddy igloos the orgs are living in. That'd be her first wish... lol :heh:

[HelloMrBrahms]

galk and cid did amazingly well?

that's because clare was there haha. galk would've died the second he appeared, but clare took the hit. cid would've been next.

[Fenrir_valindri]

But they perform noticeably better when they were NOT shocked by the Yoma's presence, remember; this was their first time seeing a Yoma, let alone one as large as the one in the cathedral.

After their first encounter, Galk and Cid performed incredibly well, especially the times when the Yoma was actually trying to kill them.

Galk cuts off the Yoma's fingers, and dodges its attack, and Cid managed to plant a few knives in key locations, both distracting and interrupting the Yoma's attacks, Galk even later managed to prevent the Yoma from retracting its fingers, even though it is noticably stronger.

Now imagine a group of humans, battle-hardened, fighting a typical Yoma. My money is on that Yoma dying, and fast.

Winged Yoma would be more of a threat, until you bring in spear men and archers, then they would be impaled or turned into a pincushion.

I have a hard time Yoma hunting in the open sucessfully, especially when they generally don't work together, the Yoma's ability to disguise themself as a human is almost proof of this on its own, otherwise they wouldn't even have that ability.

Claymores were specifically created to get around the difficulties of detecting normal Yoma.

[HelloMrBrahms]

yoma don't usually go out in the open. so how are you gonna get a group of human yoma hunters to kill them? obviously the yoma are gonna stay away from that.

they'll eat guts, wait until unsuspecting humans to go alone somewhere and go feed.

they're a bit smarter than that.

[Fenrir_valindri]

That is exactly what I mean, my arguement was centered around humans killing Yoma in open combat, which would never happen if the Yoma was smart, because they would be at a disadvantage.

People think that Claymores wouldn't be needed if humans could take them, but they ARE still needed just to detect the sneakly monsters.

[Zsych]

I agrew completely with Fenrir here. The youma don't casually come out into the open and hiding again is incredibly easy for them.
When the youma in the cathedral decided to run away at some point, there was no one who could've stopped him, and if a youma escapes he can just take another form.
(wonder if you could cut a youma and see what color it bleeds though, as a test, though even that would be very risky and you'd need to be very careful that the youma didn't get into the group of people already tested, and that all of your warriors were strong enough to take on someone who was revealed to be a youma, and insure that he not escape.

Whatever you did though, humans against youma would at least mean a lot of deaths for humans normally.

[Fenrir_valindri]

We are not sure of the blood-test would work either, remember the purple blood color is anime only.

[Mikke]

I don't think Yoma are too smart to begin with; Their intelligiance is impaired by their lust for guts. If they were truly smart they would've supressed their yoki, killed one of the MiB, taking upon their form and later killing Claymores that way.

It's a risk, since some of them can barely sustain a normative human behavior without it being dead obvious they're Yoma, like in the case of one of the village leaders Clare saw through in vol 2.

Then again, there are normal humans who are so vicious in their hearts that they can be mistaken for Yoma, like that demented bandit who's arm Teresa cut off.
(Note that when they first appeared Teresa thought they were Yoma. Must be because they were so evil.)

[Anh_Minh]

I don't think Yoma are too smart to begin with; Their intelligiance is impaired by their lust for guts. If they were truly smart they would've supressed their yoki, killed one of the MiB, taking upon their form and later killing Claymores that way.

What are you talking about? The first Claymore they meet would kill them. That's the point of Claymores: to be able to detect youmas even when they disguise themselves.

About the only use for that would be to take a village's gold so that the org won't ever help them again. But it's likely the org would do something about any youma who tries that stunt, so it's not really a winning strategy.

[Mikke]

What are you talking about? The first Claymore they meet would kill them. That's the point of Claymores: to be able to detect youmas even when they disguise themselves.

About the only use for that would be to take a village's gold so that the org won't ever help them again. But it's likely the org would do something about any youma who tries that stunt, so it's not really a winning strategy.

Yoma can supress Yoki.... Clare said so herself.... Unexperienced or weak warriors can fall for it.

The organization can't have body guards around them all time while traveling.. Not everybody's popular like Rubel who dragged Rafaela everywhere he went; so having the deed done at least once is possible. The Yoma have nothing to lose but their lives and they don't organize into groups unless being controlled by AB's so they don't need to develop strategies, just think of whatever options are available at the time.

[Fenrir_valindri]

I have a strong feeling that a MiB could handle himself if a Yoma came along and tried to mess with him.

and a handler not reporting in to the Organization would probably not go unnoticed, and if a Yoma just tried to waltz into the Org's HQ.....well that Yoma is likely not going to live long.

[chibamonster]

In the extra chapter it almost seemed like the organization told the youma to go after the claymores, or had an elaborite scheme where they somehow got the candidates to a remote somewhere with a youma close by. Seems awful fishy to me. Not to mention Teresa's whole "oh, you mean we don't?" comment. The organization is doing something funny with those youma.

[lsley]

In the extra chapter it almost seemed like the organization told the youma to go after the claymores

i think you talk about the "test".
imo they catch a yoma/take one from their yoma farm and tell him to go and kill the noobies and they will let him live or something like that

[Mikke]

i think you talk about the "test".
imo they catch a yoma/take one from their yoma farm and tell him to go and kill the noobies and they will let him live or something like that

No, they give them treats :p

[Zsych]

Well the MiB have to have some youma around for their Claymore creation and other experiments(like the youki suppression pills)

[Mikke]

Well the MiB have to have some youma around for their Claymore creation and other experiments(like the youki suppression pills)

Pinky and the Brain, the two laboratory Yoma? :)

[Awakened]

There is a good chance Raki will be able to fight against yomas. He was given that Ramona sword.

My theory on the sword
Long ago the church in Ramona used that sword to defend the city against yomas, the sword have some special power that allow humans to fight against youma.

After the Org started making claymore, the legend of the sword was forgotten, and eventually it was thrown into the armory where it collected dust.

To show Clare they appreciation the sword was given to Raki. Raki is currently getting sword tanning, the only thing that’s missing is for him to unlock the secrete of the sword.

[chibamonster]

Sort of like a zanpakuto in bleach huh? Raki with a bankai. The idea never crossed my mind.

[Newhope]

I sure as hell hope not it'd kill claymore for me.

[nihil]

There is a good chance Raki will be able to fight against yomas. He was given that Ramona sword.

My theory on the sword
Long ago the church in Ramona used that sword to defend the city against yomas, the sword have some special power that allow humans to fight against youma.

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Not to cut in, but didn't he lose the sword once he was captured by slavers and sent north?

I could be totally wrong.

[Anh_Minh]

Isley gave it back to him.

[Flar]

Pinky and the Brain, the two laboratory Yoma? :)

"Gee Alicia, what do you want to do tonight?"
"The same thing we do every night, Beth—Try to take over the world."

[Mikke]

"Gee Alicia, what do you want to do tonight?"
"The same thing we do every night, Beth—Try to take over the world."

Oh, that's just no right.......... :twitch:

They're Alicia, They're Alicia and the Beth.. Beth ... Beth Beth Beth...."NARRF!!" tee da da dee da dam!

[lsley]

There is a good chance Raki will be able to fight against yomas. He was given that Ramona sword.

My theory on the sword
Long ago the church in Ramona used that sword to defend the city against yomas, the sword have some special power that allow humans to fight against youma.

After the Org started making claymore, the legend of the sword was forgotten, and eventually it was thrown into the armory where it collected dust.

To show Clare they appreciation the sword was given to Raki. Raki is currently getting sword tanning, the only thing that’s missing is for him to unlock the secrete of the sword.

no, its part of T5 set and with isleys socks and priscillas underpants he'll get +50 to all stats and farm yoma in the hope of nice drops :twitch:

[Awakened]

no, its part of T5 set and with isleys socks and priscillas underpants he'll get +50 to all stats and farm yoma in the hope of nice drops :twitch:

lol, stop playing all those video games.


Ok, so what if Ilese train him, then turn him into a claymore? Raki wants to be strong for Clare, so if he gets the chanse, I think he will do it.
Ilese need more foot soldiers.

[lsley]

lol, stop playing all those video games.


Ok, so what if Ilese train him, then turn him into a claymore? Raki wants to be strong for Clare, so if he gets the chanse, I think he will do it.
Ilese need more foot soldiers.

1. I hate this game I was referring to because some friends play it and I'm allways standing there if they talk and think wtf?! :upset:

2. Isley doesn't need any soldiers. With Prissy he's the greatest in the world, and we saw that he doesn't cherish subjects.

Another interesting question came to my mind when i watched trinity blood, theres a ubar vampire, and he's so ubar because he drinks the blood of other vampires.
What would happen if a human/yoma/claymore/raki eats yoma??

[Fenrir_valindri]

It apparently tastes incrediably nasty to them, so I doubt it is good for their health.

[Spawnblade]

1. I hate this game I was referring to because some friends play it and I'm allways standing there if they talk and think wtf?! :upset:

2. Isley doesn't need any soldiers. With Prissy he's the greatest in the world, and we saw that he doesn't cherish subjects.

Another interesting question came to my mind when i watched trinity blood, theres a ubar vampire, and he's so ubar because he drinks the blood of other vampires.
What would happen if a human/yoma/claymore/raki eats yoma??

Isley wants Raki around because he comforts Priscilla. He wouldn't want Raki being easily captured by opposing forces if they discovered this, since that could be troublesome if they could keep Priscilla from interfering in a fight. I'm quite sure he plans on offering to turn Raki into a Claymore, and most likely try to get him to awaken at some point in time.

I recall in one of the last chapters of the extermination in the North, Isley tells Raki that the only way he'll be able to protect Claire is if he goes with him. And his constant quotes about a lack of power/being able to follow through on his words being a sin. I highly doubt he's referring purely to swordplay, and instead was also talking about what he considers 'real power'.

In regards to men not being able to resist awakening... That's pretty much BS concocted by the author in all respects. The male claymores could get sexual stimulation elsewhere, so there'd really be no reason for them to awaken just because of a one-time pleasure that they could get at any other time really. So I don't see this logically being a problem for Raki. But i'm betting that Isley doesn't actually tell Raki of the side effect of the Awakening, and so Raki is going to be put into the position trying to defend Claire at some point. And then Claire's going to have to try and save him like he saved her at the Cathedral.

[Zsych]

I think its not that they got sexual pleasure from it, but rather that they experienced a great deal of pleasure from going towards awakening.
Even Ophelia comments on how good she feels after she awakens... Might well be like being on a permanent high, and part of why they often no longer care about their human morality as much.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Isley never mentions any of that "weakness is a sin" stuff in the manga, so far, Isley has done nothing to indicate he will do anything but train Raki.

I also believe one of the reasons Priscilla likes Raki is because he is human.

[Awakened]

Isley never mentions any of that "weakness is a sin" stuff in the manga, so far, Isley has done nothing to indicate he will do anything but train Raki.

I also believe one of the reasons Priscilla likes Raki is because he is human.

you might be right, if he became a claymore then he is no longer a cute pet.:D

[Mikke]

Anyways, I hope that whenever they decide to dub the anime, they'll pronounce it "Laki" cuz that's what his name was supposed to imply in the first place, I think.
LUCKY.. He's a lucky son of a *itch for surviving untill now, and besides.., It sounds better thatn "Raki" which is a name one would give to a turd that just won't flush..

Sorry, bad expression.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Actually:

Raki can mean;

An alternate name for Rangi, the sky father in the South Island dialect of Māori.
Raki (alcoholic beverage), an alcoholic beverage of Turkey.
An alternate name for the Cretan (Greece) beverage Tsikoudia.


take your pic, 2 of the 3 are alcoholic beverages :P

Also 99% sure that it is supposed to be Raki.

[Mikke]

Actually:

Raki can mean;

An alternate name for Rangi, the sky father in the South Island dialect of Māori.
Raki (alcoholic beverage), an alcoholic beverage of Turkey.
An alternate name for the Cretan (Greece) beverage Tsikoudia.


take your pic, 2 of the 3 are alcoholic beverages :P

Also 99% sure that it is supposed to be Raki.

Did you just search that up in wiki? wth... :confused: Anyway, even if it's supposed to be Raki, it still sounds really lame in english. I can't bare imagining the voice actress of Clare going - "Raaki!!"- .. (shivers) .. horrible.

Besides, the definitions you mentioned just don't connote to him.

I wonder what a Zaki is.... scratch that, I wonder if he had more brothers, what would be their names. Raki, Zaki and Kaki.... Little sister Saki and cousin Faki.
Uncle Pokey and Aunt Soaky. One big, happy @#$!^# Family :)

[Fenrir_valindri]

It sounds better then Laki atleast :P

[HelloMrBrahms]

well ... I really don't feel like sifting through 30 pages looking for this. I'm sure it has already been brought up, but in case it hasn't .... :

the english equivalent could be Rocky. There is no sound in Japanese that sounds like the "aw" in Rocky ... Ra would be the closest thing. "cky" as "ki" is close enough... ra-ki.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Interesting, you may have a point, eye of the tiger eh? ;)

[Voracious Reader]

well ... I really don't feel like sifting through 30 pages looking for this. I'm sure it has already been brought up, but in case it hasn't .... :

the english equivalent could be Rocky. There is no sound in Japanese that sounds like the "aw" in Rocky ... Ra would be the closest thing. "cky" as "ki" is close enough... ra-ki.

Neat, but not actually true. The nearest equivalent for Rocky is ロッキ rokki, which is the Japanese title of the film.

[Flar]

I wonder what a Zaki is.... scratch that, I wonder if he had more brothers, what would be their names. Raki, Zaki and Kaki.... Little sister Saki and cousin Faki.Well, it's quite obvious that Zaki and Raki were not the only childs in the family. Zaki was the first born, but after him came Yaki, Xaki, Waki, Vaki, Uaki, Taki and Saki. Out of them all, probably only Taki survived and became a kickass kunoichi.

It's also a little known fact that by their power combined, Zaki and Raki could become ZARAKI, a hell of a badass, but Raki was out chasing skirt the day the Yoma attacked, so Zaki couldn't fight.

[Mikke]

I wonder if Raki's and Clare's children will be able to go Super Sayian.... :rolleyes:

[lsley]

Raki (alcoholic beverage), an alcoholic beverage of Turkey.


I think the name Raki is cool since raki is really hard stuff, believe me :eyespin:

[Zsych]

I think Laki(lucky) would make him sound like even more of a loser... Fine with me.

Anyway, somehow a lot of youma have considered Raki above average food. Super-soft lameass meat perhaps :P So maybe Priscilla when she's not in an eating mood, still notices that he does smell kinda good.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Or maybe he is like prime-sirlion to Yoma, so when they see him they just kinda go into a feeding frenzy.


Priscilla doesn't seem interested in eating him at all, Raki might look like her brother or something, or maybe she just thinks he is cute :P

[Mikke]

I think she likes Isley more though, cuz he got down on his knees naked, worshipping her feet.

[chibamonster]

Although Isley was missing part of his torso it certainly was a nice gesture. Especially because a few seconds earlier he was thinking of killing Priscilla's naked crying self. Good thing Priscilla did not pick up on that sinister smile that everyone reading the manga did. uh oh. Although we can't forget that Raki smells delicious. If Clare and Teresa are to be trusted, youma and Claymores have a distinct smell and according to Ophelia so do AB's. It seems to be rather strong. AB's really dislike the taste of claymore so a human would naturally be a more interesting scent.

That and Raki tackles girls on the tundra to introduce himself. What a tenacious guy. He must have learned it from cid who throws knifes, runs across rooftops and makes out with chicks to say hi.

[Mikke]

That and Raki tackles girls on the tundra to introduce himself. What a tenacious guy. He must have learned it from cid who throws knifes, runs across rooftops and makes out with chicks to say hi.

Comes to think of it, Cid is a really awesome dude. He's gonna get together with one of the girls I'm sure of it. Either Clarice or Helen. So there's your second human/claymore couple. The others will be so jealous they'll start grabbing guys out randomly. I think that after reconstructing the organization, Miria will get into politics and marry father Vincent, lol. Deneve will go for Galk and.... Ooops, no more famous guys? too bad, Yuma will have to settle with one of the stock. :heh:

[chibamonster]

Thinking of famous guys, whatever happened to that old Falcon Sword? If Raki got a hold of that he might be able to impress some ladies. Although it certainly would not be happy memories for Clare :uhoh:

The MiB's are out for guys, although the pirate one who tests the trainees seemed pretty hard core. I bet he could take some youma. But yeah, not many guys in the claymoreverse are there? Cid is about as good as it gets. Galk seems like he would always be late from work and very serious. Deneve with him seems like a good bet. I guess they will just have to look in other fictional worlds for decent fellows for romancing.

[Mikke]

Heh, no really, now with utmost seriousness. I am 99% sure that when Raki appears he'll be really impressive. Wether he was claymorized or just got really good with the sword, he'll kick ass.

[koffy]

Yups, I wanna see him with big muscles swinging a big nice sword which could be like falcon sword and then kick some yoma ass...:rolleyes:

[lsley]

Yups, I wanna see him with big muscles swinging a big nice sword which could be like falcon sword and then kick some yoma ass...:rolleyes:

i received top secret information about the retourn of raki, the cover for this chapter is already ready ;)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4236/rakiresurrectiontherealqz6.jpg

[Akalimor 47]

Yeah, he should drop the sword and pick up a chainsaw lol

P.D out of thread : Ophelia with a chainsaw would be the most lethal thing ever :uhoh:

[Mikke]

Yeah, there should be a sequel about Raki. "The Rabona Chainsaw Massacre"

[Akalimor 47]

That's the perfect idea for a christmas special :D

[hell88]

Wow whoever thought Raki could be so deadly. I wonder what Clare would think of him wielding a chainsaw. XD

[chibamonster]

And a shotgun. Well, he'd have to be missing a hand with a chainsaw as his prosthetic. But then he could probably take youma. THIS IS MY BOOM STICK (http://www.azoidx.com/postimages/bruce_campbell_evildead.jpg)!

[hell88]

Yeah no one will see that one coming.

[OliverTwist]

I've been thinking on how Raki might reappear lately. If Raki ends up being a good swordsman whos only problem is not being able to sense Yoma, then what would happen if he hears about what just happened in Rabona and finds Galatea still there?

If she doesn't join the fab 7 maybe he can somehow convince her to help him search for Clare.

I could see some cool things happening if those two joined up. I don't believe Galatea will ever get her eyesight back simply because the wound has healed over, so maybe as they're going along she senses Yoma moving toward them then all of a sudden their yoki's disappear one by one and she's left wondering how, or something of that nature.

If nothing else I would bet we find out what he's been up to in chapter 80. Chapter 79 will most likely wrap up Rabona.

[hell88]

Galatea can get her eyes back, she just have to re-open the wound.

[[thousandmaster]]

If Raki ends up being a good swordsman whos only problem is not being able to sense Yoma, then what would happen if he hears about what just happened in Rabona and finds Galatea still there?


It's hard to imagine Raki leaving Priscilla because of the incident that happen in Rabona and it probably won't happen. If lsley heard of it, chances are, he won't convey it to Raki because he wants to keep Raki by Priscilla.

[Simley]

Raki is such an x factor in this series...I'm sure he will play some pivotal role, whether it be reconciling Clare/Priscilla or whatever

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

Now that he is a man hopefully he won't cry as much. That would be a relief.
That was really my big problem with him he cried all the time. It was cute when chibi clare cried. Pathetic when it was Raki. Even though he was weak I liked him because he made Clare happy. And he did have his cool moments.(I wouldn't have stood up to Ophilia) I look forward to Clares reaction to an Adualt Raki.

[PGilis]

Yeah. And i would love to see the other fab-6 reaction if they meet him, and he had become a handsome lad perfectly able to cook great, tasty meals and no afraid at all of half-youma girls.
Helen certainly would love to meet someone like that. :p

[Awakened]

Do you all think Clare will fall in love with Cid, or with Raki?
She is close to Raki, but it could be in a sister kinde of way.
Cid stole the first kise.

[yezhanquan]

The thing is: Will Raki even know that his two travelling companions are not human, after 7 years? Whether he knows or not will make a big difference.

[hell88]

If Raki doesn't know he'll probably find out in a last minute situation (like mabye a fight) then he'll freak out. If he already knows he's probably being forced to stay with them because Isley probably thinks that if he runs off Pricilla might go crazy and no one would be able to stop her.

[Mikke]

Ok, if Raki is still with Isley after all these years then he is probably converted by him already; either into something other than human, or just plainly brainwashed against the Org and their claymores.

I'm sure he has lots of interesting stories to tell Raki about the cruelty and injustice behind their "saving humans from yoma" charade, that if repeated long enough and confirmed with a few random examples, representing some half truths will make Raki believe that claymores are just as good as their handlers.

Remember, the anime Raki understood a few things a tid too fast and is a bit a head of the manga Raki in his overlook on the world; so for those who subconsciously accepted the Raki in Pieta thing, scratch that.... LET IT GO MAN! :eyespin:
Raki doesn't know jack! All he knows is that claymores are half yoma, one day they will become yoma, that they make paper planes with the spare, black toilet paper square they carry in their swords and kill their own comrades for a reason he barely understands....

Yeah, I'd say Isley OWNS him after these 7 years. :cool: Oh yeah, I forgot about Clare.... Well, I secretly hope it'll be something like this:

Darth Whiner: Clare! [Koohooo whooh] You don't know, the Powhaa of tha Daak Side! Join me!

Clare: Noooo!

Darth Whiner: Rubel never told what happened to Raki [Kohoof]

Clare: He told me enough! He told me YOU killed him!

"No.... I!.... Am Raki!"

[hell88]

LMFAO Mikke! Now we have Claymore gansta rap.

[ClaFanN1]

Raki Crymore :d

[PGilis]

Do you all think Clare will fall in love with Cid, or with Raki?
She is close to Raki, but it could be in a sister kinde of way.
Cid stole the first kise.


And Clare stole Raki's first kiss! :p And a loooong adult kiss, no less! That's not something easily forgotten. :heh:

I think Raki was not with Easley and Priscilla all the time. Probably he spent time still searching for Clare. But i doubt he thought in check Pietta.

I dunno if he really loves Clare, but surely he idolizes her. I doubt he will forget her that easily. Clare too is still thinking about him. So i doubt she will choose Cid over him. Besides, he is still a jerk!

But who knows? Maybe Yagi-sensei can have other ideas (like for instance a big yuri-fest). We will know for sure just when/if Raki shows up again. :)

[hell88]

And Clare stole Raki's first kiss! :p And a loooong adult kiss, no less! That's not something easily forgotten. :heh:

I think Raki was not with Easley and Priscilla all the time. Probably he spent time still searching for Clare. But i doubt he thought in check Pietta.

I dunno if he really loves Clare, but surely he idolizes her. I doubt he will forget her that easily. Clare too is still thinking about him. So i doubt she will choose Cid over him. Besides, he is still a jerk!

But who knows? Maybe Yagi-sensei can have other ideas (like for instance a big yuri-fest). We will know for sure just when/if Raki shows up again. :)

He probably did check in Pieta but was to dumb or frozen to search real hard.

[[thousandmaster]]

Clare falling in love with Cid? 99.9% chance of not happening, but hey... there's still that 00.1% chance *laughs* Raki has a shot though, maybe 75-80% but he has to look good like Isley to pull that off. ;)

[hell88]

I think when Raki runs into Clare it might be difficult for him to be with her. I mean like with all those other claymore girls around.

[chibamonster]

Not to mention Priscilla and Isley; the strongest faction in the claymore world.

[hell88]

The strongest faction we know of so far.

[chibamonster]

... yes. Sorry for not taking into account things we do not know and have not yet seen :p.

It would really be something if there were a stronger faction than Isley and Priscilla for raw power, especially because power it would take 3 abyssals to get them; 2 for Priscilla 1 to hold of Isley. And even then who knows who would survive. Assuming of course that Priscilla does not break down in tears and cry. Clare doing a soul link might put her up there on the balance of power. Then there is Raphaela and Miata, both abyssal material if they decide to awaken. Alicia and Beth both awakening would add 2 abyssals to the equation as well... So it certainly is possible.

[hell88]

Hmmm.... That would be a real powerful showdown.

[[thousandmaster]]

It'd be nice if the organization had expanded to other continents. I'm sure there are others across the seas. Then, there'd be other strong factions besides Priscilla and Isley. :)

[Fenrir_valindri]

It's not like their aren't any other strong factions, it's just that Isley and Priscilla are currently the strongest.


and we haven't seen so much as a ship to start mentioning other continents. :p

[hell88]

You know what I think, mabye Claymore is around that time where people didn't think there were other continents.

[Mikke]

I wonder what would happen if you infuse a fish with yoma flesh.

An army of awakened fish!

[hell88]

That would be scary. Lol No claymore would stand a chance in a battle underwater.

[Keyquest]

A quote a friend of mine who's a big fan of the series (as am I) said "I hate Raki, all he does is cry!".

Then I thought...hmm hey that's true! lol.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Tell your friend that Clare would have turned into an AB or died by now without Raki, the Rabona incident and the Ophelia incident respectively.

He has also turned Clare from an emotionless robot to the person we know.

Raki cried about 6 times in the manga that I can count.

Brother = Yoma, and taunting him about it
Explaining to Clare that he was abandonded by his village
Clare killing her best friend
Clare being on the verge of death
Clare almost awakening
Clare and him being seperated, with Ophelia on their tale.

If you wouldn't cry in his shoes in at least half these situations, you are either
A) Not human
B) Lying
C) Some sort of self-proclaimed badass who wants to appear macho.
D) have mental issues


For reference, Clare has cried about as many times.

Thinking she was abandonded by Teresa
When reminded of her parents death
Seeing Teresa's wound
Being abandonded by Teresa
Thinking Teresa was going to die
Teresa dying

and this is just Chibi-Clare who was in existence for less time then Raki, adult Clare cried when:
Ophelia was about to kill her
Irene told her to stay put because she was in no condition to fight
Irene and her talked about Teresa
and when Jean died


Just for reference, and Clare is alot tougher then any of us here probably are, and probably your friend too ;)


On the other hand, if your talking about anime Raki, he is absolutely right, anime-raki cried way too much.

[Flar]

Raki cried about 6 times in the manga that I can count.

On the other hand, if your talking about anime Raki, he is absolutely right, anime-raki cried way too much.Ah, but the criticism wasn't that Raki cries, it was that he does nothing beside this. Clare isn't hated for her crying because she has other facets to her personality.

What does Raki have, in comparison? Plot-armor? That makes him more despisable. Persistence? Noone likes a stalker. Delusion he can be of use to Clare when he's only slowing her down? That's called stupidity.

Comparing Claymore with Raki and Claymore post-Raki, I am glad he disappeared. I am also glad that there is very slim chances of him going back to being Clare's sidekick, considering she has the ghosts, Raki has Priscilla, and any Clare/priscilla meeting is likely to be the start of the grand finale.

Raki will still get between Clare and Priscilla in the end, crying that she's good, though, it is known. Then everyone will cry, Priscilla and Clare will revert to humanity, kill all the AOs, have a threesome with Raki, and I will burn the books and delete the chapters.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Optimistic aren't you? :eyespin:

Raki definitely had use in developing Clare's character more, and providing her with motivation other then her quest for vengeance.

He also saved Clare on two occasions, that is far from useless.

When his usefulness as Clare's sidekick ended, he was shipped north to propel the plot a bit more by reintroducing us to Priscilla, and introducing us to Isley for the first time.

Raki himself isn't just a crying plot-armored character, he is a support character that helps drives the plot, and that is about as good of a role we can expect from a normal human in this story.

[Mikke]

And it is still unclear what will become of him in the future; wether he remains a support character, or becomes significantly stronger to get involved in some real action. :) Well, at least as much as sid. At least.... :heh: (Totally loved the way he nearly "nailed" agatha from the back with one of his "knives" when lurking behind her)

Anyway, back to Raki. The crying busniess: People think that girls CAN and SHOULD cry, because they're girls. No matter how tough they are, they're still girls and should leave a man's work, (killing yoma and best friends, developing a cold and uber cool personality) to the man. :heh:

Raki, immedietly falling in love with Clare the moment he saw her (well come on, look at her) :uhoh: couldn't stand the fact that he, supposably a man, being that much weaker than her, couldn't do jack to impress her. At first he thought: "Ok, no big deal.. I'll cook for her and then she'll fall for me :cool:". The look on his face though when she put that fried lizard's tail on the sand, was of course.., priceless.
From that moment on, he resorted to the last thing an ego wounded man can do; crying like a little girl. :heh:

He got kicked out and didn't cry, he was brave enough to charge that yoma that ate his brother, he got beat up by ophelia and didn't cry; but when it comes to the ego.. lol :heh:

[hell88]

Mabye Raki will better now that he's older, but I have a strange feeling he won't meet up with Clare until close to the end of the Claymore series.

[Mikke]

I hope she cries when she sees him.

- "Raki, I missed you so much! now I will never leave you..! Take me now..!" :cool:

[[thousandmaster]]

I am also glad that there is very slim chances of him going back to being Clare's sidekick, considering she has the ghosts, Raki has Priscilla, and any Clare/priscilla meeting is likely to be the start of the grand finale.


Ha ha. You're kidding right? Slim chance of going back to being Clare's sidekick? Okay, once all of this Priscilla and Raki problem is dealt with, it'll be going back to Clare & Raki (assuming if they don't get killed) and the G7 will be disbanded and they'll go their own ways... will Priscilla/Isley will pwn most of the group though.

Like in the anime, at the end, they went their seperate ways and I think it'll like that in the manga too. :)

[hell88]

I hope she cries when she sees him.

- "Raki, I missed you so much! now I will never leave you..! Take me now..!" :cool:

And Raki will be like "stop crying, you're crying more now than I did when I was a kid.":heh:

[Keyquest]

Tell your friend that Clare would have turned into an AB or died by now without Raki, the Rabona incident and the Ophelia incident respectively.

He has also turned Clare from an emotionless robot to the person we know.

Raki cried about 6 times in the manga that I can count.

Brother = Yoma, and taunting him about it
Explaining to Clare that he was abandonded by his village
Clare killing her best friend
Clare being on the verge of death
Clare almost awakening
Clare and him being seperated, with Ophelia on their tale.

If you wouldn't cry in his shoes in at least half these situations, you are either
A) Not human
B) Lying
C) Some sort of self-proclaimed badass who wants to appear macho.
D) have mental issues


For reference, Clare has cried about as many times.

Thinking she was abandonded by Teresa
When reminded of her parents death
Seeing Teresa's wound
Being abandonded by Teresa
Thinking Teresa was going to die
Teresa dying

and this is just Chibi-Clare who was in existence for less time then Raki, adult Clare cried when:
Ophelia was about to kill her
Irene told her to stay put because she was in no condition to fight
Irene and her talked about Teresa
and when Jean died


Just for reference, and Clare is alot tougher then any of us here probably are, and probably your friend too ;)


On the other hand, if your talking about anime Raki, he is absolutely right, anime-raki cried way too much.

Yep, talking about the anime Raki ;)

[Fenrir_valindri]

Then your hatred is justified, just don't dump it on Manga-Raki. :heh:

[hell88]

When I was first reading the manga I was like "This Raki kid just wants to be friends with Clare." Then when I saw him in the anime I was like "I hate this kid, somebody kill him."

[Mikke]

The reason for that is fairly simple: The anime series was still somehow meant to be aimed at the younger audience, as almost every anime is. Plus, as we have recently found out, the deviation from the manga plot was planned from the beginning, and since there weren't any better writers found to sum up the series right; the whole "I love you and don't want you to turn into a yoma" part was neccessary, thus the exeggeration in the nature of Raki's character.

In the end, the horridity of the anime Raki was intentional to draw sentimentalism for the sake of the ratings not dropping.. As sick as it sounds, it's the truth ladies and gentlemen. :(

[lsley]

I think it's just the sound. Anime Raki without the crying sound would be as good as manga Raki, but with his annnoying voice it's impossible not to hate him. :upset:

[Mikke]

Dude.... Motoki Tagaki is actually a very talented seiyuu; in a drama play he must've been the best.

[PGilis]

I think it's not just the crying voice.

The producers of the anime series forgot most of the scenes from the manga what made Raki a likable character, like the scene where Raki literally exchange punches with Cid in defense of Clare, when he kicked him on his balls (gold scene!! :D ) and when he atacked Ophelia even after she kicked him on the face and gave that insane murderer look.

[hell88]

I'd like to see Raki run into Clarice, I think it would be funny for some reason. It would probably be in a battle or something. Yeah they would both be running away.

Raki: Must run faster! (turns corner)

Clarice: I DON'T WANNA DIE! (turns same corner from other end and runs into Raki)

Raki & Clarice: WAAAAAAAAAAH!
THUD

Raki: Don't go that way theres an awakened.

Clarise: Don't go that way there's another.

Raki: Lets go that way.

They kept on running until they got lost.

Raki: AH CRAP! And I was sure Clare was around here somewhere.

Clarise: I lost Miata! Oh know! What am I going to do?

So they wen't on together to find the ones they lost, but got even more lost. ROFL

[Mikke]

I'd like to see Raki run into Clarice, I think it would be funny for some reason. It would probably be in a battle or something. Yeah they would both be running away.

Raki: Must run faster! (turns corner)

Clarice: I DON'T WANNA DIE! (turns same corner from other end and runs into Raki)

Raki & Clarice: WAAAAAAAAAAH!
THUD

Raki: Don't go that way theres an awakened.

Clarise: Don't go that way there's another.

Raki: Lets go that way.


They kept on running until they got lost.

Raki: AH CRAP! And I was sure Clare was around here somewhere.

Clarise: I lost Miata! Oh know! What am I going to do?

So they wen't on together to find the ones they lost, but got even more lost. ROFL

And this way Raki managed to get himself a 3rd female fan! go Raki..! :D

[chibamonster]

The Raphaela Hug Bear discussion (hilarious) in another thread made me think of it, but what if Raki keeps forming attachments like he did to clare all the time?

Priscilla: Raki, you have to run! There are people who are coming to kill me. I cannot fight with you by my side.
Raki: *crying* I want to help you! I know i am completely useless but I still want to stay by your side Priscilla! I don't care if you don't help when they attack me! I don't care if you use me as a shield or decoy! But if you get taken out or we separate and never meet again then I couldn't stand that! I don't care if I die I want to stay with you!
*Priscilla kisses Raki*
Raki (thinking): works every time...
-Later-
Galatea: you have to run raki!
Raki: Finally some sweet action!
Galatea: What?
Raki: I mean uh... I want to help you! I know...

[Zsych]

LOL. Hilarious.

[hell88]

The Raphaela Hug Bear discussion (hilarious) in another thread made me think of it, but what if Raki keeps forming attachments like he did to clare all the time?

Priscilla: Raki, you have to run! There are people who are coming to kill me. I cannot fight with you by my side.
Raki: *crying* I want to help you! I know i am completely useless but I still want to stay by your side Priscilla! I don't care if you don't help when they attack me! I don't care if you use me as a shield or decoy! But if you get taken out or we separate and never meet again then I couldn't stand that! I don't care if I die I want to stay with you!
*Priscilla kisses Raki*
Raki (thinking): works every time...
-Later-
Galatea: you have to run raki!
Raki: Finally some sweet action!
Galatea: What?
Raki: I mean uh... I want to help you! I know...

Wow it seems Raki turned out to be a real pimp in those 7 years.:heh:

Galatea taking Raki to the 7 ghosts.

Galatea: Hey Clare is this the boy you were always talking about?

Clare: Raki!?

Raki: Clare its been so long.

Helen: What do we have here? SCREW YOU CLARE HE'S MINE!

Helen grabs Raki and runs off with him.

Raki: Don't worry Clare I won't do anything.

Once there out of sound range.

Raki: Alright.... GIGITY! GIGITY! GIGITY!

Cynthia: Wait for me Helen I want some too!

Raki: DAMN!

********

Miria: You know Clare its only a matter of time before the rest of get some of him.

Yuma & Tabitha (Blushing)

Deneve: *sigh*

Clare: SON OF A B****!

Galatea: (laughing) I probably shouldn't tell Clare what we did before we got here.

[Fenrir_valindri]

Hey, both Clare and Priscilla are quiet the lookers themselves, maybe not on the level of Galatea for some, but their definetly up there. :heh:

[hell88]

Not a lot of people like Raki but he must really know how to get the job done. XDXD

[Tempest35]

I'd actually prefer Priscilla to Clare based on looks only. :heh:

[chibamonster]

Both Clare and Priscilla have some serious childhood trauma that might surface in any sort of relationship. They might have relapses at any moment. They don't seem to be the kind of issues that having a sit down talk or a good cry would solve. I do not want to be around them when their issues appear. I also doubt the claymore world has adequate therapy to deal with trauma and such... The org's solution of turning the traumatized girls into claymores does not really help much either. Although Priscilla did look pretty cute when she was reintroduced to the story. And she's cuddly. Clare does not seem like the cuddly type.

[Tempest35]

Yes, Priscilla seems to be quite cuddly (in human form) - as Raki no doubt has learned. :D

And yes to the relaspes - Must keep them inside when Halloween comes around. They are NOT allowed to answer the door.

Kids: Trick or Treat!!

Clare or Priscilla: *eye twitches* ...YOUMA!!! *transforms* KILL!!!

Kids: :eek:

Raki: It's just a costume! It's fake! Leave them alone!

[[thousandmaster]]

Clare does not seem like the cuddly type.

Ohh~h, she will be when she meets up with the grown up Raki later on ;)

[Mikke]

One thing I liked about the Anime ending, is the Raki X Jean part. She made him raise his sword and stop crying, though for a short time.. but still.. It was also cute how he helped her walk, and so funny when she suddenly grabbed him and sped forward right after.

[hell88]

Sometimes I think if Jean healed herself first before saving Clare mabye she would have survived.

[shelter]

One thing I liked about the Anime ending, is the Raki X Jean part. She made him raise his sword and stop crying, though for a short time.. but still.. It was also cute how he helped her walk, and so funny when she suddenly grabbed him and sped forward right after.

Mikke. I won't say I'm a Raki-sympathizer. But by going out of plot and putting Raki & Jean in those short scenes, the anime helped to show something we don't really see: Raki & another Claymore interacting.

And yes, it was kind of cute. :heh:

[hell88]

Theres a part in the anime right before Raki meets Jean, Raki is sitting on the ground crying and Helen, Deneve, and Miria who gives him his sword and he doesn't take it he just keeps crying. Then Miria looks a little frusterated with him before they leave him. Well I was wonder if Raki shows up and joins Clare and the ghosts and does something like that I don't think Miria would want him around.

[shelter]

Theres a part in the anime right before Raki meets Jean, Raki is sitting on the ground crying and Helen, Deneve, and Miria who gives him his sword and he doesn't take it he just keeps crying. Then Miria looks a little frusterated with him before they leave him. Well I was wonder if Raki shows up and joins Clare and the ghosts and does something like that I don't think Miria would want him around.

Heh. Probably not I guess. But when he does return, my guess is that all those years would've probably wiped away his break-out-in-weeping-at-any-any-hopeless-scenario syndrome.

I imagined that particular scene as more the result of his history with Helen, Deneve & Miria. He had met them earlier. His do-all-or-nothing attitude wouldn't have clicked with their pragmatism.

Then again, as it's shown with him & Jean, single-minded people (characters) seem to get along better.

[hell88]

Heh. Probably not I guess. But when he does return, my guess is that all those years would've probably wiped away his break-out-in-weeping-at-any-any-hopeless-scenario syndrome.

I imagined that particular scene as more the result of his history with Helen, Deneve & Miria. He had met them earlier. His do-all-or-nothing attitude wouldn't have clicked with their pragmatism.

Then again, as it's shown with him & Jean, single-minded people (characters) seem to get along better.

But now that I think about it, Raki might have been crying like that because when he saw Clare awakening Helen told him that there was nothing that he could do to help her. I geuss this means its a good thing Jeans good with words, or Raki probably would have froze sitting in that spot crying.

[shelter]

I geuss this means its a good thing Jeans good with words, or Raki probably would have froze sitting in that spot crying.

That, or a solidarity in purpose. Raki finally realised there was someone who wanted to give it all for Clare. Raki embodies a kind of hopeless persistence (in cowardice) & Jean in turn a selfless (reckless) devition. The two coincide, I guess, because Jean knows how Raki thinks.

Pity the 2 characters don't meet in the manga. Raki & Jean, when you compare them, practically live off Clare's presence. Would be interesting to see the 2 of them interacting, possibly complimenting each other's personalities.

[hell88]

That, or a solidarity in purpose. Raki finally realised there was someone who wanted to give it all for Clare. Raki embodies a kind of hopeless persistence (in cowardice) & Jean in turn a selfless (reckless) devition. The two coincide, I guess, because Jean knows how Raki thinks.

Pity the 2 characters don't meet in the manga. Raki & Jean, when you compare them, practically live off Clare's presence. Would be interesting to see the 2 of them interacting, possibly complimenting each other's personalities.

If they met in the manga say around the time in the witches maw, which would be the perfect time, I think Raki would have gotten close to Jean as well, and would have stayed with the two of them, and probably convince her of another way to save Clare instead of sacraficing herself when they were in Pieta. I bet that Raki could have brought Clare back like he did in Rabona, but as we seen in the anime that didn't work out to good when he tried it again. But I also think if Galatea was in the war at the time she could have easily brought Clare back with her yoki manipulation.

[Fenrir_valindri]

I never use the Anime as a basis when concerning Raki, Raki is alot of things but cowardly isn't one of them.

It could also be quite possible for Raki to have pulled Clare back without someone dying, he did it in Rabona after all.

[Flar]

It could also be quite possible for Raki to have pulled Clare back without someone dying, he did it in Rabona after all.Just throwing this around, but what if THIS was Raki's purpose in the story?

Think about it, Clare had to synchronize her Yoki to pull back Jean and herself from awakening. She said it was extremely hard, too, but Raki did it on his own in Rabona.
Now consider that he was wounded by a Yoma, and that the Claymorisation process implies taking Yoma flesh in your body.

So, what if Raki had developped an instinctual Yoki manipulation/reading, either naturally or from the Yoma wound? It would account for the way he accepted Clare, how he saved her in Rabona, how he can feel Priscilla has a connection with Clare, and most of all, it would make him relevant to all the sides of the conflict Priscilla and Clare because he's their pimp, and Riful because he is everything she is looking for. Just need to find a reason for the org... maybe he has a MIB potential or something.

[hell88]

That makes a lot of sence actually, when Raki brought Clare back in Rabona I thought that was just her will power forcing herself back because of what he said to her at the time, but there is a possibilty he might have been attacked by a yoma and something strange happened, mabye it was the yoma that took his brothers form. I'm not saying that he has yoma powers or anything I'm just saying he might.

[chibamonster]

The villagers who threw Clare out said, "We can't say for sure that she's not a youma herself. Truth be told, the ones to be afraid of are those close to a youma's victims." There might be something to their superstition. Was there a deeper reason that youma later found Clare and kept her as a pet before she met Teresa? Why not just eat her as a snack? Is there a reason Raki smells nice to Priscilla? It might be nothing. But if there were a reason it might tie into how youma reproduce or marking their territory or something along those lines. Although I am going to guess it is nothing because the youma in Rabona planned on eating Raki, but he was also a very very hungry youma as well.

Maybe Priscilla did not eat Raki because he smells like Clare. We know that Claymores have a very distinct scent of blood that never washes off. Youma have a scent as well since that is how Clare knew Raki was close to a youma in the first chapter.

[Flar]

And Raki would be the one keeping Priscilla sane and human, and that would be why Riful is looking for a Yoki manipulator to supersede him, and maye take control of her. Gosh that makes me reevaluate my burning desire to never see Raki again.

[Tempest35]

And that might be the single most important reason why Raki would be alive - and won't be killed by another AB. Child Priscilla would go absolutely nuts if Raki was killed, especially in front of her.

[hell88]

The villagers who threw Clare out said, "We can't say for sure that she's not a youma herself. Truth be told, the ones to be afraid of are those close to a youma's victims." There might be something to their superstition. Was there a deeper reason that youma later found Clare and kept her as a pet before she met Teresa? Why not just eat her as a snack? Is there a reason Raki smells nice to Priscilla? It might be nothing. But if there were a reason it might tie into how youma reproduce or marking their territory or something along those lines. Although I am going to guess it is nothing because the youma in Rabona planned on eating Raki, but he was also a very very hungry youma as well.

Maybe Priscilla did not eat Raki because he smells like Clare. We know that Claymores have a very distinct scent of blood that never washes off. Youma have a scent as well since that is how Clare knew Raki was close to a youma in the first chapter.

Mabye Priscilla likes Raki and his scent so much is because he uses axe.:heh:

[lsley]

Mabye Priscilla likes Raki and his scent so much is because he uses axe.:heh:

there was a nice axe effect pic with raki and prissy in the fanart thread :p

[hell88]

I think I might know what happened to Raki. I think during the Isley and Luciella fight, he might have been there, and ran into Raphaela later. He probably asked her about Clare and she might have taken him away from Isley and Priscilla and they are hiding. If Irene is still alive, they might be with her. So when Raphaela shows up again Raki might be with her, but I'm sure a lot of people are going to disagree with me on this like always.

[Guido]

I think I might know what happened to Raki. I think during the Isley and Luciella fight, he might have been there, and ran into Raphaela later. He probably asked her about Clare and she might have taken him away from Isley and Priscilla and they are hiding. If Irene is still alive, they might be with her. So when Raphaela shows up again Raki might be with her, but I'm sure a lot of people are going to disagree with me on this like always.

In effect, I disagree with you.

When Isley and Luciela were duking it out after each others' throats, Raki was with Priscilla in a cabin far, far away from the battle zone, though Priscilla somehow managed to sense it.

[Mikke]

I think I might know what happened to Raki. I think during the Isley and Luciella fight, he might have been there, and ran into Raphaela later. He probably asked her about Clare and she might have taken him away from Isley and Priscilla and they are hiding. If Irene is still alive, they might be with her. So when Raphaela shows up again Raki might be with her, but I'm sure a lot of people are going to disagree with me on this like always.

Again, Raki the ladies man. :D

No matter how much this is unlikely, I still hope for his claymorization...

[hell88]

In effect, I disagree with you.

When Isley and Luciela were duking it out after each others' throats, Raki was with Priscilla in a cabin far, far away from the battle zone, though Priscilla somehow managed to sense it.


Yeah but after the fight Riful and Dauf show up and Priscilla shows up beside Isley, which is why I was thinking he might have left with Priscilla to find Isley but stayed back a little bit so he wouldn't get involved and runs into Raphaela who was in the same area.

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

Yeah but after the fight Riful and Dauf show up and Priscilla shows up beside Isley, which is why I was thinking he might have left with Priscilla to find Isley but stayed back a little bit so he wouldn't get involved and runs into Raphaela who was in the same area.

With that in mind it could be possible. It's not any stranger then the Rakimore theory and many people seem to think that likely. Personally I have a hard time imagening that Raki is still with them after all this time. Or thats Raki has becaume a Claymore or AB. Its important that Raki is the only human to be a main character. (who knows about the MIB) And I know.. I know... many people speculate that Isley /Pricilla wouldn't lete him leave, but Isley seemed almost to like Raki. Who knows what he did after all, Isley is like Bypolar Dr. Jekel and Mr Hyde-ish we don't know what he could have done. Its possible that he could have let him go. Or that Raki could have left then.

[PGilis]

I pretty sure Raki is still just a human and searching for Clare.

Why? Because there's absolutely NO F***ING way any normal, healthy young man would want to miss the chance of becoming the company and cooker of - not just one, but seven (!) - hot and ageless female warriors wearing sexy miniskirts!! :D

If i were Raki, not even two of the strongest man-eating monsters in the world would stop me of join the fab-7! Not even a (gasp) semi-nude loli trying to sleep with me all the time. Even why, i think Raki prefers oneesamas... and 7 of them, no less! ;)

And besides, in the company of the fab-7, Raki can become very rich opening a 4-stars Restaurant and serving expensive dishs, like the incredible YOUMA-STEAK, the LION-BURGER and the KAKUSEISHA-SPECIAL.

He will never become low of fresh meat. :heh:

[hell88]

With Raki around Helen will never get hungry again.

[Mikke]

I pretty sure Raki is still just a human and searching for Clare.

Why? Because there's absolutely NO F***ING way any normal, healthy young man would want to miss the chance of becoming the company and cooker of - not just one, but seven (!) - hot and ageless female warriors wearing sexy miniskirts!! :D

If i were Raki, not even two of the strongest man-eating monsters in the world would stop me of join the fab-7! Not even a (gasp) semi-nude loli trying to sleep with me all the time. Even why, i think Raki prefers oneesamas... and 7 of them, no less! ;)

And besides, in the company of the fab-7, Raki can become very rich opening a 4-stars Restaurant and serving expensive dishs, like the incredible YOUMA-STEAK, the LION-BURGER and the KAKUSEISHA-SPECIAL.

He will never become low of fresh meat. :heh:

They can do some really naughty roleplaying too. Raki will put a tentacle monster costume.

Miria: Oh no! our information was incorrect..!

Raki: Hahahahaha! Fools... Now you will experience the true nature of the perverts in black who keep sending bad girls to me for punishment!

Helen: You gotta be kidding me..! It's the great IJOU - FAKU - YOKUSHA!

[hell88]

They can do some really naughty roleplaying too. Raki will put a tentacle monster costume.

Miria: Oh no! our information was incorrect..!

Raki: Hahahahaha! Fools... Now you will experience the true nature of the perverts in black who keep sending bad girls to me for punishment!

Helen: You gotta be kidding me..! It's the great IJOU - FAKU - YOKUSHA!

That would be hot. But it would be better if a real tentacle monster shows up.

[Flar]

I pretty sure Raki is still just a human and searching for Clare.

Why? Because there's absolutely NO F***ING way any normal, healthy young man would want to miss the chance of becoming the company and cooker of - not just one, but seven (!) - hot and ageless female warriors wearing sexy miniskirts!! :DI don't know about that. Groups of older females are about the most unmanning thing to exist in the universe, and you cannot even get intimate with any of them since there is always others near. This is pretty much verified in any other shonen out there, the main guy never gets to do anything as long as the group stays together.

Living alone with a girl your age, that you don't dislike and who wants your body seems much more rewarding and more solid a relationship.

[hell88]

I don't know about that. Groups of older females are about the most unmanning thing to exist in the universe, and you cannot even get intimate with any of them since there is always others near. This is pretty much verified in any other shonen out there, the main guy never gets to do anything as long as the group stays together.

Living alone with a girl your age, that you don't dislike and who wants your body seems much more rewarding and more solid a relationship.

Yes but what if all seven of them want him at the same time.

[PGilis]

They can do some really naughty roleplaying too. Raki will put a tentacle monster costume.

Miria: Oh no! our information was incorrect..!

Raki: Hahahahaha! Fools... Now you will experience the true nature of the perverts in black who keep sending bad girls to me for punishment!

Helen: You gotta be kidding me..! It's the great IJOU - FAKU - YOKUSHA!

What a nasty kid! :p

Acting like that, Raki will be properly punished by sister Latea too, for being a bad boy!! ;)

[hell88]

What a nasty kid! :p

Acting like that, Raki will be properly punished by sister Latea too, for being a bad boy!! ;)

And Clare's going to be like "I wasted seven years thinking about this guy and all he's been doing was getting it on with other women."

And Cynthia's going to be like "You think you got it bad, I wasted seven years learning how to sew these new clothes we wear now, what a waste of time."

[Mikke]

And Clare's going to be like "I wasted seven years thinking about this guy and all he's been doing was getting it on with other women."

And Cynthia's going to be like "You think you got it bad, I wasted seven years learning how to sew these new clothes we wear now, what a waste of time."

I don't think Clare will recognize Raki in his tentacle monster costume, so she'll probably think the girls are just pulling a Helen on some poor AB.

The real problem will occur when she decides to join in and notices that not all tentacles are the same size. :rolleyes:

Clare: .......... Raki?!!? ...........

As for Cynthia, well... I doubt she'll do the job again so... Naked claymores on the run...!

[hell88]

I think the only thing that will give it away that its Raki is that only one tentacle is actually doing something.

You notice how the 7 ghosts never have gotten there clothes torn up, its probably because they all know Cynthia doesn't want to waste 7 years again to make new ones. Lol

Miria's clothes just got ripped up.

Miria: Please Cynthia you need to help me out here.

Cynthia: NO! It will take me a whole year to do that.... I could have sneeked off with Raki by then.

Helen: Who knew Cynthia could be so selfish.

[Defiled one]

That would be hot. But it would be better if a real tentacle monster shows up.

You called? guess not....

Raki doesn´t need to be powerful to win their hearts :rolleyes:. He just needs to learn some experience.
Claymores greatest weakness is, chocolate. It´s Claymore "catnip" and you know how Claymores get all "excited" when scenting chocolate. It even works with female awakened.

[Mikke]

You called? guess not....

Raki doesn´t need to be powerful to win their hearts :rolleyes:. He just needs to learn some experience.
Claymores greatest weakness is, chocolate. It´s Claymore "catnip" and you know how Claymores get all "excited" when scenting chocolate. It even works with female awakened.

Is "chocolate" supposed to be a metaphore for something/someone? lol..

I don't think that I'd like it to work with male awakened.... Wouldn't want to attract the wrong attention of the wrong nature.... :eyebrow:

[Defiled one]

No, it doesn`t. It only works with females and Isley, which has yet to be explained.

And yes, it´s a methapore.

[Mikke]

No, it doesn`t. It only works with females and Isley, which has yet to be explained.

And yes, it´s a methapore.

Dude.... not all women like chocolate ya know. some may be elergic to it and get really irritated. Helen for example. :D others, like ophelia, step on it and scrape it off their feet, mistaking it for doo doo. Can't blame then, it's not as if anyone would expect them to raise their leg to their mouth and lick it off. Would you? lick a piece of tasty, creamy chocolate of your shoe? Didn't think so.... :p oh wait.. You're a guy, oops..

[Defiled one]

Dude.... not all women like chocolate ya know. some may be elergic to it and get really irritated. .....

.... oh wait.. You're a guy, oops..

First, it´s a methophore.

Second, I know what kind of chocolate Ophelia, Riful and Jean like. Mostly the milk type. :cool:

[Mikke]

First, it´s a methophore.

Second, I know what kind of chocolate Ophelia, Riful and Jean like. Mostly the milk type. :cool:

Ok, you're getting me confused.. Just who are we talking about here?

milk type chocolate can also resemble doodoo, make no mistake there.... :mad: :)

Ophelia tried it and said it tasted bad. LOL

[tenken627]

Trying to think, but I still can not come up with one correlation between Jean, Riful, Ophelia, chocolate, and milk (metaphorically or not).

Now I'm really curious.

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

Trying to think, but I still can not come up with one correlation between Jean, Riful, Ophelia, chocolate, and milk (metaphorically or not).

Now I'm really curious.

You and me both brother. :p

[xMrbrightsidex]

i'm pretty sure that he's becomed a "male claymore".. than i think he will awaken :p
it's too quitee this thing.. and why is isley trying to teach raki? and also why are they keeping him with them.. it's too strange for me...:twitch:

[PGilis]

As far i understood, Easley is teaching Raki because:

1) he asked him, and Easley kinda liked him, because he remembers himself when he was still human/claymore;

2) When Priscilla transforms herself, she's uncontrolable. Not even Easley can stop her. But Priscilla likes Raki too much, and keep him close (as a little pet, maybe) will help to keep her under control.

Teach Raki is just a little playtime, is not like Raki will become strong enough to defeat him or Priscilla. :p

[Defiled one]

He can still whoop some ass, at human level, like Cid.

[PGilis]

And win some half-humans' hearts... or tummy... ;)

[Mikke]

And win some half-humans' hearts... or tummy... ;)

Nah, Cid's on another level dude.. The day Raki has an AB want to have sex with him, then we compare. :)

[Tempest35]

Nah, Cid's on another level dude.. The day Raki has an AB want to have sex with him, then we compare. :)

For Raki to have the strongest AB already jumping into bed with him...:heh: He could already have surpassed Cid's level here.

[Mikke]

For Raki to have the strongest AB already jumping into bed with him...:heh: He could already have surpassed Cid's level here.

Yeah, but Priscilla just wanted to cuddle.... :p Well, maybe bite him here and there cuz he smells like the juiciest burger to her, but still.... No sex there.... :heh:

[hell88]

Yeah, but Priscilla just wanted to cuddle.... :p Well, maybe bite him here and there cuz he smells like the juiciest burger to her, but still.... No sex there.... :heh:

Raki could use Priscilla for good, and his own needs.

Raki: Stop eating human meat unless I say so! Eat those cows. I will not like you anymore if you don't do as I say.

Priscilla: If you say so.

Raki: This guy is picking a fight with me, you can eat him.

Priscilla: But I'm not hungry.

Raki: Do it or I will not get in bed with you tonight or anytime soon.

Priscilla: What? NO!

Priscilla goes into her awaken form.

Priscilla: Where is this guy Raki? I'll eat him.

[Mikke]

Might as well teach her to eat tofu....

[hell88]

I guess we know who the man in the Raki & Prissy relationship is, if there still together that is.

[Mikke]

Lol, if Isley was named Islev instead, I'd be possible to rearrange it into Elvis. :heh: then I don't think Raki would've had a chance to break down that icon of a love barrier. Well, he could be the loyal butler, cleaning up Isley's nice villa which I still fail to comprehend how he managed to afford.. I mean.. He didn't just rob.., some rich guildsman or nobleman has he? cuz that's low.. even for an AB.

[[thousandmaster]]

Yeah, but Priscilla just wanted to cuddle.... :p Well, maybe bite him here and there cuz he smells like the juiciest burger to her, but still.... No sex there.... :heh:

Cid's got nothing on Raki :p Raki's probably way better now when he's at his prime and all the claymores will fall head over heels for him. ;)

[tenken627]

I know the true Rakimore theory!

The only thing I'll say for now is that Rachel looks like an older version of Raki. :heh:

[Mikke]

I know the true Rakimore theory!

The only thing I'll say for now is that Rachel looks like an older version of Raki. :heh:

Lol, yeah.. Isley has had it with Priscilla not wanting him so in addition to claymorizing Raki, he did a sex change operation on him; but Raki got freaked out and escaped in mid work.. :heh:

[shelter]

;1475784']Cid's got nothing on Raki :p Raki's probably way better now when he's at his prime and all the claymores will fall head over heels for him. ;)

He's not even at his prime now, but he already seems to be attracting ABs (especially a certain powerful female one). :heh: Imagine him at his peak!

[hell88]

He's not even at his prime now, but he already seems to be attracting ABs (especially a certain powerful female one). :heh: Imagine him at his peak!

Yeah when he is at his peak Riful will get rid of Dauf for him. Then Raki will be like. "Oh yeah two powerful awakened women, the world will fall before me."

[tenken627]

Lol, yeah.. Isley has had it with Priscilla not wanting him so in addition to claymorizing Raki, he did a sex change operation on him; but Raki got freaked out and escaped in mid work.. :heh:

I'm not sure if Isley was the one to do it... The organization is very good at "operations" and secret experimentation projects.

Hmmm.... Raki... Rachel... Sounds kind of the same, don't you think?

They both look kinda the same... and they should be around the same age.

Poor Audrey.

[lsley]

wtf, Rachel and Raki similar looking?
Raki is way more feminine than Rachel, and his face looks much more... human.
And Rachel isn't Raki, but an experiment, she was pumped full of male hormons until she got male muscles... and a male face. :p

[hell88]

Mabye the Org thought "if we pump up our warriors with male hormons they'll be more tougher than before." And the MIB were like "ok which unlucky girl should we test this idea on."

[shelter]

Raki is way more feminine than Rachel...

You know I'm actually inclined to agree. Although I think his habit of breaking into sorrow is seen more often in the anime than the manga.

Also I just watched Eva 1.0 - I find this unwholesome similarity between Raki & Shinji... addicted their closest friends + high tendency to break into tears. But I thought at least Raki's putting in the effort.

Heh. :heh: I think this has been discussed before somewhere.

[Tempest35]

PLEASE do not compare Raki with the thing known only as 'Shinji Ikari' - Raki's already drilled to the heavens compared to Shinji who just sat down mumbling - heck, Rachel is GAR compared to Shinji. XD

[Mikke]

Oh oh I got one...! let's do a Helen/Misato apple/beer comparison

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

You know what I want most to see. I want to see Clare's reaction if she ever found out the relationship between Raki And Pricilla. Exspecially if she found out about Pricilla sneaking into bed with Raki and running around nude. She would probubly awaken right on the spot. :bash: HA major drama.
Clare- So raki were have you been all this time.
Raki- I met these really nice people Isley and Pricilla.
Clare-:twitch: later what about you and Pricilla :frustrated:

[hell88]

You know I think everybody wants to see that the most. It would go like this after.

Helen: So Clare I hear you don't want Raki around because of what he did with Priscilla.

Clare: Who told you that?

Helen: Um.... it was.... D-Deneve.... and M-Miria.

Clare: DAMMIT! I told them not to tell anyone!

Helen: Well I'll just be taking Raki now seeing how is you don't want him around anymore. Some people need satisfaction around here Clare.

Clare: You have 3 seconds to get out of my site as fast as you can.

[PGilis]

PLEASE do not compare Raki with the thing known only as 'Shinji Ikari' - Raki's already drilled to the heavens compared to Shinji who just sat down mumbling - heck, Rachel is GAR compared to Shinji. XD

So true.

*When facing youmas, Ophelia or that Awaked One, Raki was never with his eyes closed and saying to himself "I will not run away! I will not run away!" :heh:

*When punched by Cid, Raki fought back. It was not with his butt on the ground whinning "i was not protecting Clare by option".

*When watching Clare hurted in bed, Raki never tried to masturbate hiimself. ;)

*When he got the hot kiss from Clare, he never tried to clean himself crying, like if he disliked. :p

*And Shinji never got Ayanami trying to sleep with him half-naked. Got Kaworu instead... :eyespin:

[shelter]

So true...
*When watching Clare hurted in bed, Raki never tried to masturbate hiimself. ;)

*When he got the hot kiss from Clare, he never tried to clean himself crying, like if he disliked. :p

We-ll. I see your point. ;) And I think you've permanently ruined my liking for NGE :heh:

What I was exploring was just the thought that - Claymore fans complain so much about Raki's constant tearing AND/OR self-persuaded helplessness. But I would add that the context to which these 2 characters are pushed into their harsh scenarios are just very different.

Definitely Clare saved Raki from being a yoma's supper and there's that element of debt. But to be willing to die for her takes a lot of guts.

@PGilis: thanks for your comparison!

[PGilis]

We-ll. I see your point. ;) And I think you've permanently ruined my liking for NGE :heh:

What I was exploring was just the thought that - Claymore fans complain so much about Raki's constant tearing AND/OR self-persuaded helplessness. But I would add that the context to which these 2 characters are pushed into their harsh scenarios are just very different.


Hahah... sorry! :p

I'm not a Raki hater, i'm one of those guys who rather like Raki and i think he has some qualities. But the funny thing is, Raki and Shinji DO have some situations in common. But fortunately, they act very unlike to each other.

Ah, and just some more "if Raki were more like Shinji" comparisons i thought: :D

*When Clare ask him if he want to avenge his parents, he would say "no, just avenge my mother. I HATE my father!"

*Every time Raki is in danger, the Teresa inside Clare would go into "Berserk-mode", because Raki is Teresa's son and she want to protect him.

*Raki would have psychodelic wet dreams not only with Clare, but with Miria, Deneve and Helen too. :heh:

*The thing in every Claymore's torso who disgusts everyone is a big red ball.

*After separated of Clare, he would go into depressive-mode, saying "i can't help anyone, i can't save anyone. I'm useless!" and... :eyebrow: Hey, THAT's already happened to anime-Raki!!

[shelter]

I'm not a Raki hater, i'm one of those guys who rather like Raki and i think he has some qualities. But the funny thing is, Raki and Shinji DO have some situations in common. But fortunately, they act very unlike to each other.


No, no... no need to apologise. I'm not a Raki hater either. I actually think people need to give him a break sometimes. :)

It's just that - when you have him occupy such a leading role as the hero's male friend in story full of female characters, it gets kind of depressing when he acts the way he does.

[PGilis]

No, no... no need to apologise. I'm not a Raki hater either. I actually think people need to give him a break sometimes. :)

It's just that - when you have him occupy such a leading role as the hero's male friend in story full of female characters, it gets kind of depressing when he acts the way he does.

Well, we can't forget he is just a kid facing situations no normal human was suposed to survive. He is not UTAWARERUMONO's Hakuoro to defeat enemies stronger and bigger than him using just his brilliant mind, his tactics and his mojo. :heh:

Raki is like a civilian boy walking alonside a soldier in a war zone with warplanes, tanks and soldiers shooting each other... he can't do a thing to help. He is not suposed to fight. The only thing he can do is run and try to keep himself alive.

He is like that character Jamie Graham (Christian Bale) in 1987's movie Empire of the Sun by Steven Spielberg. You can't expect a kid to grab a weapon and win the war against far stronger enemies all by himself. Not even grown-up men can do it!

The only thing we can do is give him some time in order to wait and see if - after 7 years of training - he can really become GAR material. Or at least, a man worthy of our big BADASS heroin, Clare! :D

Even if after 7 years Raki still can't defeat A.O.s or Youmas, i hope at least he can cook delicious meals to Clare and keep her bed warm. :naughty:

[lsley]

Even if after 7 years Raki still can't defeat A.O.s or Youmas, i hope at least he can cook delicious meals to Clare and keep her bed warm. :naughty:

I guess he'll be able to fight, not by himselve but by using Helen who became his aboulic slave after eating his food :p

[hell88]

I guess he'll be able to fight, not by himselve but by using Helen who became his aboulic slave after eating his food :p

I think Raki would be Helen's slave, she would make him keep making her meals all the time and she would probably... No, most likley make him do other things with her as well.

We all know what other stands for in the english langauge right?:heh:

[PGilis]

Don't worry. Raki can still get the upper hand against Helen. :p

Seven years ago, he was too young for that. But now, he can finally show the true power of his "Awaked One". :naughty:

The only problem is, Clare can kill him if she discovers. :heh:


/Pervert Mode Off

Ack! I need to stop watching harem shows like INUKAMI and KIMIARU! :eek:
........
... Nah!! :D

[hell88]

Don't worry. Raki can still get the upper hand against Helen. :p

Seven years ago, he was too young for that. But now, he can finally show the true power of his "Awaked One". :naughty:

The only problem is, Clare can kill him if she discovers. :heh:


/Pervert Mode Off

Ack! I need to stop watching harem shows like INUKAMI and KIMIARU! :D

Don't worry if Clare finds out Miria will save him.:heh:

[Mikke]

Ok this is a bit disturbing and should probably belong to the biology section, but I just gotta ask: The hormones that are responsible for sexual pleasure often coincide with those that deliver sensations of fear and anger right? So....

Suppose Helen gets like.. "really" excited when going at it with Raki then.. could she like.. undergo any.. physical changes? ya kno, like.. A vein popping out "here and there"? cuz that'd be a real turn off for poor Raki.. :twitch:

[hell88]

Ok this is a bit disturbing and should probably belong to the biology section, but I just gotta ask: The hormones that are responsible for sexual pleasure often coincide with those that deliver sensations of fear and anger right? So....

Suppose Helen gets like.. "really" excited when going at it with Raki then.. could she like.. undergo any.. physical changes? ya kno, like.. A vein popping out "here and there"? cuz that'd be a real turn off for poor Raki.. :twitch:

I think that would only work for male warriors, ane female warriors that do not suppress there yoki like the ghosts, but who knows mabye not. For some reason I really want to know if that would happen to Helen though or any of the other ghosts, if anything Helen would probably start to awaken while there going at it. But think about it Raki has been with Priscilla for seven years, everyone knows what they have most likley been doing, and if she went into her awakened form while her and Raki were going at it I think that would be a huge turn off for Raki. If Helen would go through any physical changes like a vien here and there and whatever else would change, I think Raki would be able to take it, he'd be like "at least its not what happens to Priscilla." :heh:

[Mikke]

I think that would only work for male warriors, ane female warriors that do not suppress there yoki like the ghosts, but who knows mabye not. For some reason I really want to know if that would happen to Helen though or any of the other ghosts, if anything Helen would probably start to awaken while there going at it. But think about it Raki has been with Priscilla for seven years, everyone knows what they have most likley been doing, and if she went into her awakened form while her and Raki were going at it I think that would be a huge turn off for Raki. If Helen would go through any physical changes like a vien here and there and whatever else would change, I think Raki would be able to take it, he'd be like "at least its not what happens to Priscilla." :heh:

Dude, priscilla is actually pretty hot as an AB.. :p

She's the only one that somehow keeps the humanoid form.. No, Agatha doesn't count cuz her complete awakened form was gross..

[hell88]

Dude, priscilla is actually pretty hot as an AB.. :p

She's the only one that somehow keeps the humanoid form.. No, Agatha doesn't count cuz her complete awakened form was gross..

I don't think you got what I meant. When I said Priscilla and Raki were getting it on, I was thinking if she wen't into her awakened form from her humaniod form from being to excited, or something along those lines anyways. Then Raki would be like "oh crap I just lost my fun, what the hell is she?" Then when she's in her awaken form she would probably force him to keep going at it. Then Raki would be like "please don't eat me (I got to get out of here)"

[Defiled one]

Ok this is a bit disturbing and should probably belong to the biology section, but I just gotta ask: The hormones that are responsible for sexual pleasure often coincide with those that deliver sensations of fear and anger right? So....

It´s about feelings and they feel pleasure when the Youki goes bordeline. Clare feels pain and exstacy :rolleyes: but she´s kinky.

yeah, I suppose. If the guy is really good. A claymore could awaken but i doubt it would kill him in the act. Awakened are not like mantis because if they were. Duph wouldn´t be around. :rolleyes:

Dude, the manga should have had an awakened and human couple...Oh i forgot.

[shelter]

He is like that character Jamie Graham (Christian Bale) in 1987's movie Empire of the Sun by Steven Spielberg. You can't expect a kid to grab a weapon and win the war against far stronger enemies all by himself. Not even grown-up men can do it!


Don't want to get too deep into a Lit discussion here. But how I wish Raki could be like Jim from J.G Ballad's Empire of the Sun. I read that book for a class & I'm really stunned at how that little boy, after just 3 years of war, turns from being a pampered spoilt brat and into what I would call a "war child".

Maybe Yagi can get some ideas if he read that book. Imagine the next time Raki simply owning every opponent he meets through sheer skill...

Now that kind of character change is almost god-like insane....And it probably won't happen too :heh:

[PGilis]

Don't want to get too deep into a Lit discussion here. But how I wish Raki could be like Jim from J.G Ballad's Empire of the Sun. I read that book for a class & I'm really stunned at how that little boy, after just 3 years of war, turns from being a pampered spoilt brat and into what I would call a "war child".

Maybe Yagi can get some ideas if he read that book. Imagine the next time Raki simply owning every opponent he meets through sheer skill...

Now that kind of character change is almost god-like insane....And it probably won't happen too :heh:

Well, it depends the kind of "incentive" Clare can give to him... :rolleyes:

One hot kiss, and Raki went from a kid who needed protection all the time to someone able to survive on his own feets... walking over deserts, escaping from Slave traders, meeting two of the strongest man-eating monsters in the world and still being alive and well! :heh:

[Mikke]

Don't want to get too deep into a Lit discussion here. But how I wish Raki could be like Jim from J.G Ballad's Empire of the Sun. I read that book for a class & I'm really stunned at how that little boy, after just 3 years of war, turns from being a pampered spoilt brat and into what I would call a "war child".

Maybe Yagi can get some ideas if he read that book. Imagine the next time Raki simply owning every opponent he meets through sheer skill...

Now that kind of character change is almost god-like insane....And it probably won't happen too :heh:

I didn't read that book but the kind of character you're talking about somewhat fits the "chosen one" niche. Like that dude hannibal that was born to conquer Rome.

Raki is more the virtuous character and is a symbolic representation all that is good and stuff...

[chibamonster]

Many of you were not around the forum when I did these, and I never posted them in this thread where they actually belong but now is the time. Behold, the Raki Concept ideas I had a while back for when Raki makes his glorious return to the series! Some of the links died, but you get the idea :D.

Some ideas for Raki's development. This is silly and you only have yourself to blame for looking at this. After viewing it might be best to pretend none of this ever happened.
http://www.anime.com/Vampire_Hunter_D/images/01.jpg
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4586/sephiroth8jy.jpg
http://www.poster.net/highlander/highlander-christopher-lambert-9912090.jpg
http://www.criticalgamers.com/archives/pictures/Conan.8.10.06.jpg
http://a4.vox.com/6a00bf76d0a9b7438300c2252b5b2c549d-500pi

http://www.absoluteanime.com/kirby/_cook_kirby.gif


The other night I had this weird dream. I was in a video game with some people I knew. If we died we were reset back at the very beginning. At first I was worried for my life and took the easiest route, but by the end I was bad ass and insane. It was fun. I wish I could say that I saw a vision of what would happen in claymore, but I didn't. So instead I investigated awesomeness to decide Raki's True Form! Careful, this is LONG. You have been warned.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/DarthxMaul.jpg


http://mobcode.com/files/braveheart.jpg
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/05/300px-Predator_1.jpg


http://media.movieweb.com/galleries/1044/1651/lo/coi.jpg
http://sub-zero.mit.edu/missdw/gfx/pics/Zelda-link.gif
http://www.anime.com/Akira_Kurosawa/images/03-mo-yojimbo.jpg


http://www.racketboy.com/retro/mbison.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/64/Berserk_Guts.jpg
http://web.mit.edu/miwolf/Public/Web/Projects/Lodoss/lodoss-ashram5.jpg


http://ape-law.com/dcomics/images/batman_clr_01.gif
http://www.mandypatinkin.net/PB/inigo1.jpeg
http://images.contactmusic.com/images/reviews2/willow.jpg
http://www.nautiljon.com/images/perso/grandes/Bleach/zaraki_kenpachi.jpg


http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t6/essamnasir/My%20sigs/dante1.png
http://crow13.club.fr/anime/blade/manji.jpg
http://www.emulationgalaxy.co.yu/images/manga/hellsing/alucard.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Bruce_Lee.jpg

[PGilis]

Awesome! Simply awesome!! :D :D :D

I laughed a lot with that. :p

[hell88]

Hmmmm after thinking about the pics I just seen in there chibamonster, it could happen. ROFL

[Mikke]

Hmmmm.... Yeah, It might....

But the awakened Raki should be him :heh:


http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/2906/michaeljacksonvv6.jpg

[hell88]

Thats kind of scary. I feel bad for any kids he comes across. LOL

[Mikke]

Thats kind of scary. I feel bad for any kids he comes across. LOL

Ok dude, as twisted as he is.. I happen to be a fan of his works, so lets not attack him here ;)

[hell88]

Ok dude, as twisted as he is.. I happen to be a fan of his works, so lets not attack him here ;)

I was only poking some fun, by the way I like some of his older works.

[Torri_fay_torren@hot]

Ah if only if only:)

[chibamonster]

Michael Jackson's personal life may terrify me, but the guy dances like the wind... if the wind dances. Jackson knows how to perform like no one else. If Raki were like Jackson when he awakened the final battle would be a dance off which he would win Captain Eo style. And now for something completely different...

http://comunidad.anime.com.ar/galeriadeimagenes/ninja/jubei.jpg Ninja Scroll's Jubei
http://www.anime-kraze.org/wiki/images/thumb/8/86/300px-Karas_(3).jpg Eko From Karas, you have to see the first fight during the opening credits if you have not
http://www.virginmedia.com/microsites/movies/slideshow/top-ten-movie-wizards/img_6.jpg
http://www.rubypersson.com/mononoke/big/PM_Ashitaka_3.jpg Princess Mononoke's Prince Ashitaka
http://www.anime-universe.com/Pictures/van-sketch.jpg If you have not seen the intro to the movie Escaflowne you are missing out
http://thesituationist.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/fight-club.jpg Fight Club
http://www.geocities.com/zapix/spriggan.jpg Spriggan!
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/2/27/250px-Vagabond21.jpgAs Vagabonds Miyamoto Musashi?
http://www.speakeasydesigns.com/richter/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/heman_orko.jpg HEMAN RAKI!
http://images.nintendolife.com/articles/2007/07/11/wii_light_saber_game_in_development/attachment/0/large.jpg
http://shinymedia.headshift.com/images/images/beckhamhorse260107_468x518.jpg It is actually David Beckham riding a noble white stallion
NOPE MORE OF THE SAME! HAHAHA

[Mikke]

The Jackson representitive in the claymore world would be Helen in my list :p totally a jackson vibe, with the moves and expressions taught by me, she'll be a jackson freak soon enough >:D