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Pellissier
2007-09-11, 11:00
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Icephere
2007-09-11, 11:07
Welcome to the discussion thread for Claymore, Episode 24.
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Does anyone know when the episode is going to be aired today?
It is usually subbed by Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.
Icephere
2007-09-11, 11:36
It is usually subbed by Tuesday night or Wednesday morning.
Yeah, I do know it takes a day or two for Eclipse to sub, but I'm curious as to when the raw will be aired.I can't wait to see what it is going to cover on :D
EasyPrey
2007-09-11, 11:38
Now Simba has been defeated, I am out of "actors" to portray the story line. :(
-EasyPrey
PS. I might think of something after watching the raw. ;)
I wonder where's Defiled one with his screencaps I can't wait to see what's gonna happen.:)
Defiled one
2007-09-11, 11:51
I am here wait a moment
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/395/94970345dg5.jpghttp://img443.imageshack.us/img443/3671/58781661sm8.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9338/43066175yp1.jpghttp://img513.imageshack.us/img513/115/80392775yr1.jpg
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8546/90759460bv6.jpghttp://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2271/95256150in9.jpg
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2720/38061587gd5.jpghttp://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9857/93669272ch7.jpg
They did a good job in showing who "Clare" trully was though....I feel so betrayed.
:twitch: :twitch: :twitch:
.............
Don't tell me... now Priscilla is the last hope to protect Raki or save the humanity??!!! :upset:
And again, an unexpected turn of events, indeed...
DeathAngelBR
2007-09-11, 12:12
They did a good job in showing who "Clare" trully was though....I feel so betrayed.
:confused: :confused: :confused: I didn't get it.
Defiled one
2007-09-11, 12:14
Something like that I also didnīt get it.
Wait.... don't tell me they made Clare the real evil one.......
DeathAngelBR
2007-09-11, 12:17
Something like that I also didnīt get it.
Send me a PM and explain, pretty please?
Hehehe explain here in spoiler... Please ;)
man, I cant wait for this ep to come out that last one left us on a cliffhanger, with clare finally killing the kitty and isley coming into town along with raki arriving.
PS-:eek:Is that first pic teresa, and if so is it a flashbback or will madhouse actually find a way to revive her and bring back the dead goddess
Wait.... don't tell me they made Clare the real evil one.......
I would not be surprise if they did it. CLAYMORE has been a surprising series for quite a time. :(
This is not BERSERK or any other shounen series based in the usual 'protagonist searching for reveange' plot. Here bad things REALLY happen.
The female warriors here already had to deal with a pretty literal evil inside waiting a chance to take control. So things like hage, hate, madness and desire for power or reveange it's a very bad thing. It can turn them stronger, but can turn then into a man-eating monster, too.
Clare already went past her limits plenty of times. Unfortunately, it's just logical she had finally hit a point of no return... just like Priscilla did. That means maybe the only way to Raki save her like he promissed is, not letting her suffer anymore... :sad:
OMFG!!!!!!!:eek: They didn't!!! If they really did that, putting Clare the evil one....... then, then I just can't go on.:( Priscilla becomes the savior of the story???????:twitch::twitch::twitch::eyespin: I just can't digest that.WTF!!!!:frustrated:
I believe it's time for some more Claymore bashing fellow users.:mad:
Revolutionist
2007-09-11, 12:50
gah, I gotta go to work so I can't watch this as soon as the raw comes out =/
oh well, such is life.
Ahhh, Teresas Power is paying a big toll on Clare's body now.... I am curios how this will turn out.....
zato_1one
2007-09-11, 12:51
Oh really? If it's true then it really can compensate my feeling for ep.22 and ep.23
555 evil laugh
DeathAngelBR
2007-09-11, 12:53
If it turns out as Defiled said on PM, madhouse should be shot twice.
Defiled one
2007-09-11, 12:54
I am still meh.
OMFG!!!!!!!:eek: They didn't!!! If they really did that, putting Clare the evil one....... then, then I just can't go on.:( Priscilla becomes the savior of the story???????:twitch::twitch::twitch::eyespin: I just can't digest that.WTF!!!!:frustrated:
I believe it's time for some more Claymore bashing fellow users.:mad:
I'd say part of her - more precisely 1/4 of her - has allways been evil. But she never let that part to take control, until Ligardes start to kill her friends.
Anyway, it's too soon to judge the entire ending based in just a few screenshots. It's better to wait the subbed version or even the raw. Just two more episodes to the big finale...
ah yes, the usual panic and madness drawn from assumptions based on a few screen shots.... gotta love it
Defiled one
2007-09-11, 12:58
ah yes, the usual panic and madness drawn from assumptions based on a few screen shots.... gotta love it
But,but butubutubutuuuutt;_; That`s ze fun parrt. :upset:
I hope that Clare can hold her Mind fuse long enough in check... But i see that her Body and Mind are really now on the edge of awaken...
fight Clare, don't let the Dark Side take control of you, young Padawan :)
What happened? what happened? please tell me what happens to Clare. Raw, I need Raw.
Simply lol at this moment.
Please be patient and do no make any groundless assumption guys. We do not want to another madness in 23 thread.
But,but butubutubutuuuutt;_; That`s ze fun parrt. :upset:
Exactly right Defiled one, What's a Claymore thread without the usual assumptions and premature judgement, and to top it all off a little Claymore bashing to make the threads more fun and enjoyable.:p
heh not that I think about it.... there is so much negativity about claymore but the second they smell ep. 24 they are all over this thread like starved rats lol. They can't wait to complain about it but they will be here and eat up every scrap on info there is on the raw.
then watch the raw several times because they can't wait for the translated version.
next time you make a post on how outraged you are, consider how much you act like a starry eyed fanboy :D
heh not that I think about it.... there is so much negativity about claymore but the second they smell ep. 24 they are all over this thread like starved rats lol. They can't wait to complain about it but they will be here and eat up every scrap on info there is on the raw.
then watch the raw several times because they can't wait for the translated version.
next time you make a post on how outraged you are, consider how much you act like a starry eyed fanboy :D
Well I never said I wasn't going to watch the episode.I really love Claymore, no matter waht the studio has done with the anime.I may have posted all that stuff earlier but I'm still waiting impatiently for the raw.I simply criticize the ep. because it's fun.:)
BaalChaamon
2007-09-11, 13:42
just wait and see guys ...this episode looks promising though :D
stormy001_M1A2
2007-09-11, 13:49
Poor Claire. I sometimes felt she have suffered enough.
But,but butubutubutuuuutt;_; That`s ze fun parrt. :upset:
So you admit that you are just trolling?
zato_1one
2007-09-11, 13:59
Clare should awakened and kill everyone. :D
Poor Claire. I sometimes felt she have suffered enough.
That's right... :sad:
Icephere
2007-09-11, 14:25
Priscilla looks soo.....nice in the screenshots!Can't wait to have an avatar made out of her :D
Negativedark
2007-09-11, 14:43
I guess I'll be patiant, and see what happens. But their better not be some Teresa was really evil twist, or else, I swear, I'll detonate my solervanite bomb, and destroy the universe.
... besides the Fab 4 :D
NOOOOOO!!! LEAVE DENEVE-CHAN, HELEN-KUN AND MIRIA-NEESAN ALONE!! :mad:
Now, more than ever, the Organization is the one to blame here. It's all their fault. If someone deserves to die, it's them.
Icephere
2007-09-11, 14:59
NOOOOOO!!! LEAVE DENEVE-CHAN, HELEN-KUN AND MIRIA-NEESAN ALONE!! :mad:
Now, more than ever, the Organization is the one to blame here. It's all their fault. If someone deserves to die, it's them.
DONT EFFING TELL ME SHE KILLED THE OTHERS?!!!NOOOO!THAT IS A LIE, RIGHT?!
Wrex has posted more screencaps in his blog and all I can say is NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!:frustrated: WTF!!!! :eek:CLare slashes Helen??????:twitch:
Kazidoom
2007-09-11, 15:12
This is not BERSERK or any other shounen series based in the usual 'protagonist searching for reveange' plot.
Okay, that's even more WTF than the pictures. :p But on topic, this development is certainly surprising...Madhouse wants to make Priscilla the victim. Clare was already close to awakening and after seeing Priscilla she will no doubt lose what little control she had left. This is probably where Raki will rush in. Don't fight her, she's just like you, etc. Of course he will be ignored and Clare will be portrayed as a monster obsessed with revenge while Priscilla is panicked after sensing Teresa's Yoki from Clare. But I am wondering where the other Claymores are supposed to fit into this. If it's going to be a straightforward Clare vs Priscilla I don't see the need for Galatea's return.
Commissar
2007-09-11, 15:14
Wrex has posted more screencaps in his blog and all I can say is NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!:frustrated: WTF!!!! :eek:CLare slashes Helen??????:twitch:
Read the captions below the images. There is a reason why and if you read the manga, then you already know why without looking at the captions.
Wow, seems like an exciting episode, can't wait to see it. But it seems from Wrex's screencaps that it will have another huge cliffhanger. :heh: Can't wait for next week.
Read the captions below the images. There is a reason why and if you read the manga, then you already know why without looking at the captions.
I know, for a moment there I thought that the worst could happen.
Okay, that's even more WTF than the pictures. :p
What i mean is such series are not very alike. Since the beggining Claymore was suposed to be another shounen series about reveange, but had so much plot twists and surprises, it's not just about reveange anymore.
And as far i can tell, at least in Claymore the search for reveange is allways leading to something bad. Priscilla tried and became a monster; Ophelia tried and became a monster; and now Clare is becoming a monster, too. Actually, if we think about it, if was not Raki and Galatea saving her in earlier episodes, she had became a monster a long time ago.
Forgiveness is the path to salvation, specially if you have a nasty devil inside you, just waiting the chance to take controll... :p
mercury lampe
2007-09-11, 15:34
Okay, that's even more WTF than the pictures. :p But on topic, this development is certainly surprising...Madhouse wants to make Priscilla the victim. Clare was already close to awakening and after seeing Priscilla she will no doubt lose what little control she had left. This is probably where Raki will rush in. Don't fight her, she's just like you, etc. Of course he will be ignored and Clare will be portrayed as a monster obsessed with revenge while Priscilla is panicked after sensing Teresa's Yoki from Clare. But I am wondering where the other Claymores are supposed to fit into this. If it's going to be a straightforward Clare vs Priscilla I don't see the need for Galatea's return.
If the plot continues the way you pointed it'll be simple amazing en terms of change of the events. More than that, if the roles of the main character and the main antagonist are changed like that, I won't know what I'll have to think: Madhouse has killed the manga completely? or has presented de story in a very personal and (equally) amazing form?
servidor
2007-09-11, 15:46
What i mean is such series are not very alike. Since the beggining Claymore was suposed to be another shounen series about reveange, but had so much plot twists and surprises, it's not just about reveange anymore.
And as far i can tell, at least in Claymore the search for reveange is allways leading to something bad. Priscilla tried and became a monster; Ophelia tried and became a monster; and now Clare is becoming a monster, too. Actually, if we think about it, if was not Raki and Galatea saving her in earlier episodes, she had became a monster a long time ago.
Forgiveness is the path to salvation, specially if you have a nasty devil inside you, just waiting the chance to take controll... :p
Forgiveness is a difficult path, maybe because of this, Raki will become the key character for Clare's salvation.
I have a good feeling about new surprises... I read the manga, and super changes make my enthusiasm explode. :D
Commissar
2007-09-11, 15:57
If the plot continues the way you pointed it'll be simple amazing en terms of change of the events. More than that, if the roles of the main character and the main antagonist are changed like that, I won't know what I'll have to think: Madhouse has killed the manga completely? or has presented de story in a very personal and (equally) amazing form?
Probably a good reason to wait and see what Madhouse does rather than scream and piss vinegar before we actually see how the last episodes end up. Of course if it ends up sucking, then piss away.
Forgiveness is a difficult path, maybe because of this, Raki will become the key character for Clare's salvation.
Yeah, this will probably be what happens. If Raki is going to do anything, other than cry and lament about his 'impotence', then it will be as Clare's anchor to her own humanity. Raki is never going to be able to protect Clare physically. He could be an uber warrior and still be no match for any yoma much less AB, but he cares about Clare a great deal and vice versa. It's in this aspect that Raki can actually 'protect' Clare and save her.
I'm really curious how this will all play out with Pris in the mix. Pris herself has an attachment to Raki. Raki realizes that what happened to Pris could easily happen to Clare. I'm betting he'll be willing to die to prevent that from happening (which of course would make all the Raki-haters rejoice).
USCPharmacist
2007-09-11, 16:12
ALL I CAN SAY IS....CLARE SEEMS TO HAS THE HIGHER GROUND LOL EHEHE
anyway joking aside, I want to see some god damn fight damn it, stop draging on the plot and give us some hard core super saiyan...I meant abyssal one fight !!!! Screw the story, it has already awaken and there is no turning back, just give us TERESA + CLARE vs. Priscilla round 2 and I'll be happy.
If Raki is going to do anything, other than cry and lament about his 'impotence', then it will be as Clare's anchor to her own humanity. Raki is never going to be able to protect Clare physically. He could be an uber warrior and still be no match for any yoma much less AB, but he cares about Clare a great deal and vice versa. It's in this aspect that Raki can actually 'protect' Clare and save her.
I'm really curious how this will all play out with Pris in the mix. Pris herself has an attachment to Raki. Raki realizes that what happened to Pris could easily happen to Clare. I'm betting he'll be willing to die to prevent that from happening (which of course would make all the Raki-haters rejoice).
Yeah. So far, Raki is the only one who can touch the heart and humanity of both, Clare and Priscilla.
The bad thing is, he will need to travel to the far place of battle yet again. :p
I hope it doesn't end with another moral lesson :rolleyes:
Looking at the screen captures, it would be great if
Claire becomes much more brutal and vicious than Rigald, tearing everyone, friend and foe alike, from limb to limb and turning them inside out! :D
NightbatŪ
2007-09-11, 16:15
Here's a spoiler for all the manga fanatics
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/82/300pxbabysinclair2pn1.jpg
Seems like lately the only interesting discussion happens before the ep airs
Defiled one
2007-09-11, 16:18
Here's a spoiler for all the manga fanatics
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/82/300pxbabysinclair2pn1.jpg
Seems like lately the only interesting discussion happens before the ep airs
DAMMIT! I would have gotten away with it if it werenīt for those DAMM:rolleyes: pictars. Not as planned.
If the plot continues the way you pointed it'll be simple amazing en terms of change of the events. More than that, if the roles of the main character and the main antagonist are changed like that, I won't know what I'll have to think: Madhouse has killed the manga completely? or has presented de story in a very personal and (equally) amazing form?
I think the last one.... Don't you see dear Manga readers... you are curious too now, to want to see how its going on :)... What good for is it, if they follow straight the manga? Yes, no surprises and for Manga readers boring... But so Madhouse turn the tides... :) Enjoy the start for the final battle....
And, try to hold your Horses... Don't repeat the Thread of Episode 23, Onegai.
Keep your Human Side up, don't let your Spoiler ego take control :)
Or if you cant controll it, try to force to think yourself, What will Mr. Spock do? ,yes, the one from Star Trek Classics....
Seska aka Germanguy
I just finish watching this episode couple minute ago and damn this good episode. Why must all episode be cliffhanger. I want next week episode NOW!!!
You know how when people see a car crash on the side of the road and everyone kinda slows down and stares as they drive past to see how bad it is? I get the feeling that some manga readers are interested in watching these episodes for the same basic reason. :heh:
Personally, I'm reserving my judgment until after the whole anime series is complete. I really liked how the manga handled this particular section of the story, but understand why it's being changed in the anime.
Anyways, the episode looks promising from the screencaps. I think I'm going to wait for the sub instead of going straight for the raw though, since it seems I won't be able to infer what the characters are saying based on what they say in the manga. ;)
Tempest35
2007-09-11, 16:51
Wuhaaahahahaaa~ I thought that something like this would have happened. :D Priscilla's powered up but for a slightly different reason than my inital predictions. Seems that she's still deathly afraid of Teresa's lingering presence and now that she's sensing the 1/10th that was used on her...:eek:
Clare vs Priscilla!!! Da winnah getz ze Raki.! XD This is for the record books! Muhammad Ali vs Mike Tyson yo! Don King couldn't rig up a match THIS anticipating!
As for Simba...He has finally rejoined the Great Circle of Life...
Commissar
2007-09-11, 16:55
Clare vs Priscilla!!! Da winnah getz ze Raki.! XD This is for the record books! Muhammad Ali vs Mike Tyson yo! Don King couldn't rig up a match THIS anticipating!
I'll say it before the Raki-haters do: The only fair solution is the King Solomon answer. Split Raki in two and give one half to Clare and the other half to Pris. Everyone happy.
No! The only fair solution is the harem-esque answer. He can live with Clare and Priscilla! And Helen, and Miria, and Deneve, and... :D
A big happy family!! ;)
Good that Claymore females cannot give birth.... :)
Kazidoom
2007-09-11, 17:11
@PGilis
I was referring more to what you said about Berserk, actually. I'm not used to seeing the words "usual" "plot" "shonen" and "Berserk" together in the same sentence. :heh: But you bring up something important. The way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if we had an ending that contradicts the usual "good guy vs bad guy" formula. It will be interesting to see how it is done, at any rate. Even if the ending is complete rubbish I will still applaud Madhouse for trying something daring. To bring up Berserk once more, it's the perfect example of an anime with the "ending" ruined because it followed the manga too strictly. And with an original ending the manga readers can have fun speculating as well. How will the fight conclude? Will characters who were killed off in the manga be granted a reprieve in the anime? Perhaps Raki will die! What suspense for the Raki haters! :p
Good that Claymore females cannot give birth.... :)
We don't know about that yet. Raki can discover to us in the worst way... ;)
And besides, thinking about that, maybe all the Claymores are naturally sterile because they're half-youma, half-human. But what about Clare? She is just 1/4 youma, so she could be human enough to have kids. I bet i know the name she will choose if her baby is a girl... :p
... Teresa!
@Kazidoom
You're right. Anything can happen, right now.
USCPharmacist
2007-09-11, 17:21
No! The only fair solution is the harem-esque answer. He can live with Clare and Priscilla! And Helen, and Miria, and Deneve, and... :D
A big happy family!! ;)
NOOO YOU LE DIDN'T HEHE
Tempest35
2007-09-11, 17:30
No! The only fair solution is the harem-esque answer. He can live with Clare and Priscilla! And Helen, and Miria, and Deneve, and... :D
A big happy family!! ;)
To be fair, I just see Clare, Priscilla, and occasionally Helen. XD
Icephere
2007-09-11, 17:38
Can someone send me the link to the episode blog if it is up ?
Elandyll
2007-09-11, 17:43
If the plot continues the way you pointed it'll be simple amazing en terms of change of the events. More than that, if the roles of the main character and the main antagonist are changed like that, I won't know what I'll have to think: Madhouse has killed the manga completely? or has presented de story in a very personal and (equally) amazing form?
I canot stress enough that MadHouse cannot and will not "kill the manga" :)
The anime and the manga are two different beasts, and I for one am glad (we'll see if I'm right to be at the end ofthe season) that they are doing so, hopefully with the benediction of the author.
The transition "7 years later" of the manga translated as is in anime could be very rough on watchers (specially if we'd have to wait another 5 years for a 2nd season), until we know what's actually going on :)
P.S. About the "baby-making". I have the idea (wether I am right or wrong is another thing) that the Claymore-isation process involves removing a more or less large part of their reproductive organs...
Cooler1339
2007-09-11, 17:52
If Clare becomes the enemy I will still cheer her on!
I think the last one.... Don't you see dear Manga readers... you are curious too now, to want to see how its going on :)... What good for is it, if they follow straight the manga? Yes, no surprises and for Manga readers boring... But so Madhouse turn the tides... :) Enjoy the start for the final battle....
And, try to hold your Horses... Don't repeat the Thread of Episode 23, Onegai.
Keep your Human Side up, don't let your Spoiler ego take control :)
Or if you cant controll it, try to force to think yourself, What will Mr. Spock do? ,yes, the one from Star Trek Classics....
Seska aka Germanguy
it doesnt matter how good the anime story ends b/c the last 2 episode were terrible animated with Raki scences.
mercury lampe
2007-09-11, 18:14
I canot stress enough that MadHouse cannot and will not "kill the manga" :)
The anime and the manga are two different beasts, and I for one am glad (we'll see if I'm right to be at the end ofthe season) that they are doing so, hopefully with the benediction of the author.
The transition "7 years later" of the manga translated as is in anime could be very rough on watchers (specially if we'd have to wait another 5 years for a 2nd season), until we know what's actually going on :)
ok, ok...I think i didn't make myself clear in my last post.
First, I'm not a manga reader, because i thought it'd be better to read the manga after watching the entire series (you know, in order to enjoy both formats and prevent the complains some manga readers here have)
Second, when I said "kill the manga completely" I didn't want that this sounds like I was badly dissapointed with the change of the events. I just meant that this new scenario (a mad, evil clare who fights an "innocent" priscila who doesn't have more options than fight her back) will definetely break the idea of manga and anime seen as the sime thing: From this point on, both formats woulden't be the same anymore.
Hope i make myself clearer now (this is the bad thing of not be a native speaker i suppose xd)
Oh yay.
Just FYI, our capper of pretty much all the latest episodes (in fact, more or less the only capper of Claymore right now) just left a message on share that he missed capping the show.
If I were you guys, I wouldn't hold my breath for a wednesday release this time :-\
stormy001_M1A2
2007-09-11, 18:28
Was it me, or the Claymore ultimate lesson is that fear brings hate, hate brings anger and revenge, anger and revenge brings suffering?
(Imagines Yoda walks in Pieta now.;) )
Negativedark
2007-09-11, 18:38
Okay read Wrexes review.
Ahh, that's a relief. I guess the cooler heads were right this time. Hell they may even be able to have an ending that still ends up in a place near the Manga's, other than Raki. Priscilla is hardly the force for good, she's still very much a monster, and very much a frightened little girl. Can Claire be saved? Will others die? And how conveinent their was a nearby active volcano. Maybe someone will commit suicide? How would I know, it's not like this follows the manga. Sadly that does mean we'll probably never get a season two.
DeathAngelBR
2007-09-11, 19:11
Oh yay.
Just FYI, our capper of pretty much all the latest episodes (in fact, more or less the only capper of Claymore right now) just left a message on share that he missed capping the show.
If I were you guys, I wouldn't hold my breath for a wednesday release this time :-\
That sucks monkey balls.
Revolutionist
2007-09-11, 20:02
Can someone send me the link to the episode blog if it is up ?
I'd like a pm with a link to the episode blog too please! :D
BTW! for those that want it the RAW is out!!:)
DeathAngelBR
2007-09-11, 20:42
BTW! for those that want it the RAW is out!!:)
Wait, don't tell me. That crappy .flv thing? No, thanks.
Hey it's better than nothing at the moment, right? ;) And it's not so bad, at least it's pretty good. Plus it's only 51Mb so you can d/l fast.
My advice to anyone who hasn't seen it yet is to take this flv version since it seems that we won't get a high quality version until tomrrow, some of us can't wait that long.:p
Icephere
2007-09-11, 20:55
Hey it's better than nothing at the moment, right? ;) And it's not so bad, at least it's pretty good. Plus it's only 51Mb so you can d/l fast.
My advice to anyone who hasn't seen it yet is to take this flv version since it seems that we won't get a high quality version until tomrrow, some of us can't wait that long.:p
Yeah I agree, the quality is not bad for a 51 MB episode. I have seen way far worse :)
FlareKnight
2007-09-11, 21:12
Yeah really it's not that bad for what it is. You see the episode and it's not like the quality is so bad you'll go blind...unless you've got eyesight sensitive to that kind've thing
Well pretty much a set-up episode to the fight between Clare and Priscilla. You have Priscilla freaking out from the sense of Teresa's yoki and such rushes in to find out what the heck is going on here.
Clare's losing it. Everyone right before was pretty cheered up even though they are all seriously injured and have an army of AB outside. But hey Simba is dead so that's something. Clare did slash at Helen but then asks her to finish her off. Of course we've got Helen not wanting to do it but preparing for her shot.
Some interesting looks into Priscilla's past and not just what she described. Does seem she was covered by her brother and while her mom was getting eaten took an axe to the youma. Pretty impressive for a little girl to pull off. But throw in flashbacks to the Teresa fight (how many more times must we see Teresa die? We get it she's dead enough of showing such a horrible thing!) and her putting once again Teresa and the youma together.
More Raki hate with him blubbering around in a corner. Jean gets his head back in the game. Though I can't figure out how the hell they are going to make it all that way before 26. It's like they have to cross a few mountains. I can barely believe Miria and co will show up in time.
Nothing for people to freak out about. Priscilla hasn't become the hero and well Clare hasn't killed her friends yet so it's all fine. Though what those AB are going to do now is something I'm curious about.
Icephere
2007-09-11, 21:38
Raki just made my day..The fact that 5-6 minutes of the episode was wasted on him crawling in the corner explains it! Hmm, now that he is "going to head to the mountains to save...Clare," I won't be surprised if he brings his "glory" with him.
Overall, I like the episode, especially with Clare's yoki release effect. It was amazing and I can imagine hers to rival Priscilla. There isn't much fight in this episode aside from the encounter between Clare and Pris. Also, Priscilla's past was revealed which conveys the message that she isn't really as bad we think she is. She had a terrible past and for some reason associated Teresa with her yoma father, which was probably the reason she has a solid grudge against Teresa.
I'm hoping Galatea would join in the fight, which would be interesting since she is a yoki manipulator.Isley stands behind to watch the fight. I strongly believe he will have a huge role in this..
stormy001_M1A2
2007-09-11, 23:07
Well, well, the curtain is about go down. Before it does, it will be one hell of a catfight between Prisicillia and Claire. I feel sorry for those 2, since they both are decent girls trapped by horrific life now have to kill each other due to unavoidable circumstances.
And I do wonder what is Galatea going to do now.
dutchman
2007-09-11, 23:23
A very nice episode. Gave it an excellent 9. This episode had me glued to my chair since it was all new for me with the exception of one scene (the long awaited Helen/Clare scene aww so sweet they have become real comrades).
I guess my faith in Madhouse has been restored a bit they might pull it of afterall to give Claymore the anime an worthy end. Lets keep our fingers crossed!
hollywoodlou
2007-09-11, 23:33
I guess my faith in Madhouse has been restored a bit they might pull it of afterall to give Claymore the anime an worthy end. Lets keep our fingers crossed!
Looks like it...Madhouse has corrected some versions except the manga version where Helen is supposed to "kill" Clare but thats OK. And they;re also making Raki into a bigger sissy wimp which is a far cry from the major heroic face time he had eps 20, 21 and 22. So way to go.
chibamonster
2007-09-12, 01:42
I liked it. Now that they have veered away from the manga I am excited to find out what happens next (as opposed to just seeing how something ends up animated). This should be interesting. I definitely liked Clare's bankai :) . Pretty cool, I wonder what they will do next?
Shadow X
2007-09-12, 02:37
Argh, can't wait for the fansub to be out. :D
I just downloaded the raw, I thought it seemed alright could have used more fighting scenes though...gave it a 9. Although now I' am even more confused as to where they will take this series and whether another season will be possible.:confused:
The subs are not out yet and most of the people are on berserk mode. The screen caps sure look promising though and we are finally getting an original stuff from Madhouse. I'm excited as well to see how the rest of the episodes unfold but for now let's keep our cool and wait patiently for the subs before we can assume the worst.
superzombie23
2007-09-12, 05:07
*Looks at Wrex screencaps and summary, slits wrists*
Mr Hat and Clogs
2007-09-12, 06:11
Kick arse episode, next one should be insane.
Clare's and Priscilla's simultaneous release, was quite rocking. Priscilla's back story was intriguing, explains a bit. Was kinda hoping they would go at it in the town, but hey, an active volcano works to, some nice lighting effects, especially on Priscilla. Its gona be a tradgic end I bet, hopefully there is some chance of salvation for the pair. Isley is being mr sneaky in the back ground with his minions. Galatea showing up to was interesting, leading the way to Oblivion.
Can't wait for the sub's so I can understand more then 1 word in 5.
Blablabla
2007-09-12, 06:46
Once again Madhouse shows that if not Satoshi Kon, they are unable to write a story by themselves.
Interesting ideas, there were... but wasted and in the end everything sounds wrong.
Off topic : Yesterday I saw a sign dedicated to Alicia and Beth... I remember that one day a moderator warned me about spoiling just because I said "Riful is my fav' character" before she was shown in the anime... :rolleyes:
Once again Madhouse shows that if not Satoshi Kon, they are unable to write a story by themselves.
Interesting ideas, there were... but wasted and in the end everything sounds wrong.
I have to agree unfortunately. Madhouse doesn't really overwork themselves when thinking up a storyline there. This episode is like really average shonen stuff. Not really bad, but nothing out of the ordinary either. So many overused lines we've heard so many times before ... and so much standard stuff.
To me Claymore is more than an average shonen series, it's the best I know and therefore I don't think this ending fits or lives up to the standard of the show. Maybe I'm wrong (I hope so) and Madhouse will give us an innovative interesting ending in the last episodes, but for now I won't expect anything apart from a nice fight.
And I seriously hope they will not end the series on a big plothole hoping that nobody realizes (won't say anything about that yet though), the refugees were really enough of incredibility. ^^
One good thing about the episode: Priscilla was cool and Aya Hisakawa really brought her character to live.
Blablabla
2007-09-12, 09:21
Actually, I would have prefer the "everybody was fearing plot twist" with Clare turning awakened and killing everybody and Priscilla in the good role... at least to protect Raki.
Would have been a very good irony of fate showing how frail is the balance between what you are and what you were to fight against...
How an heroine can become what the used to hated, hox she can come to do the same things that the object of her revenge did... in other words going through the same path as her enemy and seeing her saving the one she was to protect.
But I think that I was asking too much... it's a mere shounen anime after all....
dutchman
2007-09-12, 10:00
Off topic : Yesterday I saw a sign dedicated to Alicia and Beth... I remember that one day a moderator warned me about spoiling just because I said "Riful is my fav' character" before she was shown in the anime... :rolleyes:
I guess the moderators won't bother since its almost 99.99 % sure that the characters you mention will never appear in the anime version.
I guess the moderators won't bother since its almost 99.99 % sure that the characters you mention will never appear in the anime version.
*nod*
But, we can never be sure... Perhaps they use them as a Episode 26 Cliffhanger for Season 2... if there should be one, of course...
wtf..
blah
oh well, at least we have a major show down soon, not a bad way to end the series tbh since it is obivious that the chance of 2nd seasons = 0.
Well, there is a change that Pricilla will see or saw in Raki his nii-san. So Raki is there for both girls... man he is a cunny and lucky boy :)
mercury lampe
2007-09-12, 11:59
subs are out ^^
Ladies and Gentelman, Subs are Online....
Edit: Damm, to late :)
And remember, hold your Spoiler Horses...
Revolutionist
2007-09-12, 13:02
Downloading :)
Hopefully my guess is right and Clare hasn't fully awakened yet and can come back. Of course that's after she kicks the living crap out of Priscilla.
superzombie23
2007-09-12, 14:06
Finished dl'ing in class.
Another meh episode. It was better though.
celestialguy
2007-09-12, 14:20
The subs are out? How come I can't see it at the download page?
Can anyone tell me, why Clare can suddenly fly? :confused:
According to Galatea, Teresa was the most powerful Claymore ever.
Can anyone tell me, why Clare can suddenly fly? :confused:
According to Galatea, Teresa was the most powerful Claymore ever.
I thought it was obvious :P. Priscilla didn't piss in her pants and run away without reason.
As for flying thing, I think Clare just jumped, she has super legs after all (does anyone watches Smallville ? Clark couldn't fly either but he could jump with enough force to get to distant places).
I'm surprised but I really enjoyed episode and rated it 8. It's a bit to high if I look at it now, but comparing it to previous one it's much better. The only things I didn't like were Raki, pompous Jean's preach and odd scenery of last fight (I think it was to add color to the picture).
All in all good episode.
BTW, since 21 episode I'm rating average, good, average, and now good. I hope the next one won't fit to this pattern and it will be good.
ipernorris
2007-09-12, 15:15
Are you interested in these last episodes without Raki in the way?
Defiled one
2007-09-12, 15:16
Are you interested in these last episodes without Raki in the way?
Nah:rolleyes: itīs fun to watch him cry. Next episode preview...Raki screws things big time!!
Tempest35
2007-09-12, 15:23
warning: this post probably has nothing to do with the Claymore anime whatsoevah.
Nah:rolleyes: itīs fun to watch him cry. Next episode preview...Raki screws things big time!!
Clare would be very happy then...XDD
...dang it, that broke my brain big time right there. :eyespin: I was just planning how to make Raki into GARaki - complete with a Core Drill no less and...well...:heh:
SPIN ON!
Goofus Maximus
2007-09-12, 15:30
Clare didn't fly; like Superman, she can leap tall mountains in a single bound! It just looks like she's flying, unlike BatGirl (Priscilla) or Riful in helicopter-mode. Them is some powerful jumping legs she has now. :D
I loved this episode!
Just watched the sub and you know what I liked best about this episode? The recap was only 45 seconds instead of 2 minutes. :heh:
Nah, it was kinda interesting to see where they're taking the story. I wish there was a tad less powering up in typical shounen style, but whatever.
DazarGaidin
2007-09-12, 15:55
I gave this one a 6, up from a 1 on the last one lol The inconsistencies weren't really present this time (active volcano...galateas teleportation to north...no...ill ignore them for the sake of entertainment!) .. but there wasn't much there to begin with, its basically a transitional episode to the big showdown..
Please let clare break out the spidelope transformation .... they still haven't got there lol
Anh_Minh
2007-09-12, 16:05
Galatea didn't precisely teleport there. It'd make sense that the Organisation would want her in the vicinity to report on how the campaign is going. (At least, we can tell ourselves that.)
Even if she wasn't that close (they also want her to have a good headstart on the invading army, if she's to be of any use), well, Claymores can travel fast.
Galatea didn't precisely teleport there. It'd make sense that the Organisation would want her in the vicinity to report on how the campaign is going. (At least, we can tell ourselves that.)
Even if she wasn't that close (they also want her to have a good headstart on the invading army, if she's to be of any use), well, Claymores can travel fast.
And i bet, Helen can use her Seven Miles boots (Aehm Legs) for faster travels :)
The Priscilla part was the best.
I understand finally the words said be Priscilla on episode 8 before she past her limit.
:D
Deathkillz
2007-09-12, 16:15
I must say that i am disappointed with this ep...goddamit i expected a fighting scene at least but it ended out to be all talk >.> talk about hype for nothing *grr*
And i duno if anyone else thinks so but isnt it a bit weird that clare was suddenly able to surpress her awakening form even after all that screaming about how she isnt able to go back - sure it isnt the first time for clare but this time it should have been more serious - its kinda "hollow" to leave such a thing hanging :rolleyes:
D a m i e n
2007-09-12, 16:22
i wonder why i m still bothering with this steamy piece of crap.
at least i get to free up 3+giga of space on my hard drive by deleting the claymore folder.
not even rating the episode. there is no -5 in the possible ratings
I wish this episode wasnīt so predictable.
Oh well, i dont care anymore, the story is a mess.
Claymore_Obsessed
2007-09-12, 16:30
Average episode for a shounen, but as Riful-san said, Claymore is not an ordinary shounen, so I still feel a little bit sad.
Well, nothing to write home about (but a forum is ok! :D) and nothing expecially frustrating. I hope it's a new beginning before the end ^^;
I liked the good amunt of dear Helen on screen (this alone deserves a 6), and that Galatea helping Miria-tachi scene :)
And, uh, now I really want Priscilla dead. She continues showing me Teresa's death, multiple times, even in her mind trips. Claire is right, that's unforgivable! :heh:
I still don't get how Priscilla manages to associate what happened to her as being all Teresa's fault.....
I guess the flashbacks just reinforced how illogical she is...
Bikerider
2007-09-12, 16:53
It's easy for evil ones to blame others for their problems / situations. Pricilla is no exception. This ep confirms how completely evil she is.
I haven't voted 10 out of 10 in a long time, but this Claymore episode was superb, especially for the suspense and flashback! :D At least we know what Priscilla faced when she was young, and the best part is we get to see flashbacks of the almighty Teresa of the faint smile! :) Clare rocks. I could have kicked Raki several times over, but at least Jean was there to get him out of silly state so now he's growing on me again. :D
p/s: Still dislike Priscilla intensely. Totally illogical deduction (as pointed out above) and she is obviously an idiot for being used by Isley, but the guy does have undeniable charisma ;)
silverwolf0
2007-09-12, 16:55
I rate this a 5 out of 10. Several reasons:
1. Poor animation quality. Many of the faces were deformed looking and many animations were cut down to two frame flipflopping. Worse than last episode and overall much worse than the episodes in the first half of the series. The dying budget really kills the atmosphere. Many of the facial expressions were either taunt or did not match up with the voice, especially everytime Helen screams. The sub from Eclipse was also blurry looking and the backgrounds looked like mush moving around.
2. The whole scene with Clare asking Helen to kill her and Helen yelling "I won't forgive you!" Far too repetitive and banal.
3. Priscilla's flashback wasn't all that enlightening and the gaping expression she had while watching the yoma was as if someone had taken her brain out and her jaws went wide open in a zombie pose.
4. Raki scenes. Anything Raki must die.
5. The scene with Deneve taking up Undine's sword was very rough and little effort was made in showing it through.
6. The awakened beings behind Isley were too generically drawn.
7. The volcano final battle setting is really lame looking.
You want some cheese to that whine? :)
Seriously guys, get over it. The decision was obvious to force a conclusion several weeks ago, and frankly I'm getting a little bit tired of always the same people always making the same dissings (about Raki, about the inevitable showdown, about how much better the manga is). If you have new insights to offer, be my guest, but when I see people literally jumping at the release within minutes to then complain how much it was always clear that it sucked, I get this strange feeling of disconnect...
I think the main problem is that so many of the long-range storytelling threads got ignored/cut, that the current development of the showdown feels a bit... well, simple. Miria's investigation. Riful's plan. Easley's master plan (got totally axed in the anime, here he seems like a primitive indulging in wanton destruction). The organization's shady motives. Basically, only two storylines remain:
1) Clare's revenge against Priscilla
2) Raki's involvement in the middle of the two
The way I see it, a single question remains which really interests me in the end: Will Clare live or die? (To stay true to the Claymore way, IMHO the answer should be "die")
2 more to go...
hmm since it's a totally different direction now the ep was an ok watch. some parts felt like the manga while others weren't. the whole raki being a wimp till the end was iffy tho since at first he was trying to save clare then wasn't sure >_> and hey hey... jean's still alive after that fatal gut shot. Wonder if this time raki and jean will do something together since they are heading there with one another. 2 more eps to go, lets hope we see something nice
I wonder how Jean and Raki will actually reach Clare. Are they going to magically find horses or something?
Haruyasha
2007-09-12, 17:14
I wonder how Jean and Raki will actually reach Clare. Are they going to magically find horses or something?
Actually, I was thinking more among the lines of the more magical 'just appearing there' after a certain amount of time.
The way I see it, a single question remains which really interests me in the end: Will Clare live or die? (To stay true to the Claymore way, IMHO the answer should be "die")
Well, nothing should happen until Raki & Jean make there way to the battlefield (at there speed... this battle could last a while). Its hard to say if Clare should die or not at the end of the series. I guess it all depends on the outcome of the series --- aka the battle we're about to see, and should be something rather interesting.
I do wonder what Isley's role is going to be at this point. Sure he'll watch, though that shouldn't be all.
The main problem I see with this "conclusion" is:
There is no way in hell can Clare beat Priscilla, at least in the way the story was supposed to be going. Priscilla is so powerful that even all three Being of the Abyss or whatever you want to call them CANNOT defeat Priscilla one on one. Riful mentioned that the only way to beat her is by ganging up on her with two abyssal being. Unless Madhouse decide to make Clare 100% awaken and somehow her Youki can get close to or higher than Priscilla, there is absolutely no way for Clare to win. By staging this fight, they are basically throwing the Claymore storyline sideway in the sense that it is not even different interpretation of the storyline - it is a completely new storyline. Not only that, they completely skip over a lot of other interesting storyline, as with the way things are going, it is going to difficult to steer the story back closer to the manga storyline.
I know non-manga readers would have no problem with the change in story, but I just hate the fact that they are basically making Claymore into your typical Dragonball Z like shonen anime/manga story - the main character will always just power up, either by himself/herself or with the helps of others, until they can beat the ultimate bad guy.
Elandyll
2007-09-12, 17:28
I gave this one a 6, up from a 1 on the last one lol The inconsistencies weren't really present this time (active volcano...galateas teleportation to north...no...ill ignore them for the sake of entertainment!) .. but there wasn't much there to begin with, its basically a transitional episode to the big showdown..
Please let clare break out the spidelope transformation .... they still haven't got there lol
There is -no way- in hell any episode of this show, including 22 or 23, deserves a 1. Is it too much to ask for some intellectual honesty? 10 might be a stretch on occasion, but it can be put on the count of enthusiasm where a 8 or 9 would actually fit.
But 1? It means: Awfull childish-like graphics, Awful bordering inexistant animation, total mess of a story, inane dialogues, terrible editing and SFX as well as sucky music and sound effects. Nothing here applies to any Claymore episode.
If the only thing that annoys you is the story, then all the technical aspects are covered and the show deserves at least a 4 or 5.
Haven't seen 24 yet, but I am anxious to do so. BT flaring up as soon as I get home hehe.
I wonder how Jean and Raki will actually reach Clare. Are they going to magically find horses or something?
Well...there are actually at least 2 horses in town. One was Raki's and the other Priscilla's...and that's not counting Easley/Isley's horse that he let go free.
Icephere
2007-09-12, 17:35
Actually, I was thinking more among the lines of the more magical 'just appearing there' after a certain amount of time.
I know it may sound stupid but possible. Jean will play the role of the horse..you know..Raki will jump on her back/arms while Jean makes her way to the volcano.If Miria and CO can run ridiculously fast, why can't Jean do the same?
However, I really wonder why the setting of the battle will take place at the volcano?What significance would it bring to the storyline?I hope it isn't something taken for granted.Won't they be better off fighting at Pieta?Priscilla sure won't be effing picky about a desirable place to fight when she can instantly wipe anything around her in a flash of a second.
Schuyler
2007-09-12, 17:39
It was ok, after last 2 ep, I urge none-manga readers to go read. As I see it no second season. Lets all hope for a awesome fight!
Heh, I agree with you. Do you think the producers decided to wrap it up sooner rather than later? The abrupt change during these final eps look like that may have been the case.
I rated it 5/10 but then I'm usually not a shounen fan (this show was an exception) and I'm reading all the manga of this I can lay hands on.
All in all, though, I'm still curious to see how it all ends and this show was obviously just a transitional plot-clean-up filler show for the next two shows.
EDIT: I totally agree with your post -except- I don't think she should even have to be true to the claymore way since, as we've seen hints in the anime and been hit over the head by it in the manga, The Organization is nothing but a pack of creeps. My one dream in this series (manga) is for Claire to go medieval of those people
(I put spoiler tags on in case there are some here who want to read the manga later to see the differences)
You want some cheese to that whine? :)
Seriously guys, get over it. The decision was obvious to force a conclusion several weeks ago, and frankly I'm getting a little bit tired of always the same people always making the same dissings (about Raki, about the inevitable showdown, about how much better the manga is). If you have new insights to offer, be my guest, but when I see people literally jumping at the release within minutes to then complain how much it was always clear that it sucked, I get this strange feeling of disconnect...
I think the main problem is that so many of the long-range storytelling threads got ignored/cut, that the current development of the showdown feels a bit... well, simple. Miria's investigation. Riful's plan. Easley's master plan (got totally axed in the anime, here he seems like a primitive indulging in wanton destruction). The organization's shady motives. Basically, only two storylines remain:
1) Clare's revenge against Priscilla
2) Raki's involvement in the middle of the two
The way I see it, a single question remains which really interests me in the end: Will Clare live or die? (To stay true to the Claymore way, IMHO the answer should be "die")
2 more to go...
whitepearl
2007-09-12, 17:41
I'm also curious as to how this Clare v. Priscilla fight goes...
It was good to see the much more lively and jovial Helen in this episode :)
Yesmilord
2007-09-12, 17:45
Oh man, this is disastrous! :/
A true shounen ending, with huge explosions of power, gravitating rocks, and constipated yelling.
They were going to force an ending? I didn't read about that :/. That's kind of hasty considering I was looking forward to the second season more than anything.
Oh man, this is disastrous! :/
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They were going to force an ending? I didn't read about that :/. That's kind of hasty considering I was looking forward to the second season more than anything.
For my part I don't know if they were trying to force an ending. It just seemed that way based on how they radically deviated from the manga after being so faithful to it for so long. It's just speculation on my part! <3
DazarGaidin
2007-09-12, 17:55
There is -no way- in hell any episode of this show, including 22 or 23, deserves a 1. Is it too much to ask for some intellectual honesty? 10 might be a stretch on occasion, but it can be put on the count of enthusiasm where a 8 or 9 would actually fit.
But 1? It means: Awfull childish-like graphics, Awful bordering inexistant animation, total mess of a story, inane dialogues, terrible editing and SFX as well as sucky music and sound effects. Nothing here applies to any Claymore episode.
If the only thing that annoys you is the story, then all the technical aspects are covered and the show deserves at least a 4 or 5.
Haven't seen 24 yet, but I am anxious to do so. BT flaring up as soon as I get home hehe.
You have your opinion, and i have mine. The rating for 1 says 'painful' and thats what i felt. Sorry. I didn't like the inconsistencies in the story, the dialog was atrocious and repetitive, the characters actions were foolish (throw a rock at her??) and not in character, and the DBZ powerups were cliche, out of place and looked like crap. Animation was great? Yeah if you like dbz fight scenes where nothing is visible but little flashes and streaks of motion (compare to the earlier fights with slick moves and bursts of action), mixed with exploding/crashing/sliced buildings ( i swear they reused footage there...). I wonder if their fists collided too..lol Sorry i stand by my rating of 1 for that episode, painful. And that isn't even factoring in the missing manga goodness.
I have my own scale, and you have yours..
Now this was fantastic!
Lots of twists converging into a single thread.
Clare versus Priscilla.
What everyone was hoping for in the manga but will get it very early next week in the anime.
I can only say this thing about changes.
Jean has been elevated to critical role character. How lucky and fortunate for her to be able to survive Rigaldo's king beast fist.
She's struggling her way to the volcano to pay the debt to Clare, either saving her from Awakening or death!? Who knows.
Well for the Priscilla haters and semi-haters you found out on this episode another reason more to loathe her.
I cannot forgive the writers to animate Teresa's image on Priscilla's mind with that sadistic smile.
Before meeting Clare, sure Teresa was cold-blooded but in no way was like Priscilla viewed and recalled her with terror.
It doesn't matter if she messed up her memories and mixed them altogether. Giving that kind of evil image to the memory of The Goddess of the Faint Smile is just unforgiveable Priscilla:heh:
And honestly guys, I clearly believe now, that I witnessed Priscilla's entire flashback, that the massive trauma she experienced upon beheading her Yoma-daddy utterly messed up the Awakening of her mind.
She goes AB mode but likely more or less to the same day after chopping off Teresa's head.
Tttt Tttt...
With Priscilla on the stage would Clare not want to stop her Awakening but rather keeping her would-soon-to-be AB mentality on the margin from interfering?
Clare's desire for hell revenge is oozing from everywhere outside her body that I am afraid she no longer cares to be a blood hound from hell.
And speaking of hell that was very creative decision from the writers to pit them both inside a volcano. The volcano setting perfectly suits the mood for Priscilla's awakened form, as well it is a symbolical manifestation of what Clare feels against her nemesis.
My god, the volcano fight clearly hints of Revenge of the Sith match between Anakin and Obi-Wan, but here we have two hot ladies.
One fallen into the Yoma a long time ago, and another diving deeper into the Yoma to kill the former.
Well, Raki haters likely you were felt relieved.
To hear him acknowledge that his just all mouth and no action; weak and pathetic.
Well, at least to me, Jeans' words and battered form made the kid realize that he ought to be going too for Clare.
Maybe Jean was given the word-lifesaver role, but she puts it more effectively because she has power.
hollywoodlou
2007-09-12, 18:02
Anybody notice how a volcano appeared in a COLD ENVIRONMENT like Pieta? (head scratching)
And why did Jean tell Raki he;s useful again? ;) Leave the kid alone. He's been through lots of adversities and it's time to withdraw. And I'm not whining about the changes to the manga...I'll accept the INSTEAD of Jean doing her "sacrifice" thingy we get Priscilla awakening that gets Clare's attention, I;ll accept that. No harm done. BUt Jean is setting herslef up as the savior in all of this.
I got a big kick seeing Galatea...great quotes when she meets the 3:
Helen: "So the Org is still doing surveillance on us huh?"
Galatea: "If I Am?"
or "OH?...I didn't know you had thoughts of perishing here." (after the 3 drew their swords)
...cool under pressure Galatea. Gotta love that chick.
DazarGaidin
2007-09-12, 18:02
Oh yeah, i also wondered about the volcano..i mean, how did they decide to meet up there, wouldnt priscilla go right for clare and vice versa....I hope clare doesnt over run anymore lol
SWOOSH>>>>>>>>>>>....*SIZZLE*...
Elandyll
2007-09-12, 18:04
You have your opinion, and i have mine. The rating for 1 says 'painful' and thats what i felt. Sorry. I didn't like the inconsistencies in the story, the dialog was atrocious and repetitive, the characters actions were foolish (throw a rock at her??) and not in character, and the DBZ powerups were cliche, out of place and looked like crap. Animation was great? Yeah if you like dbz fight scenes where nothing is visible but little flashes and streaks of motion (compare to the earlier fights with slick moves and bursts of action), mixed with exploding/crashing/sliced buildings ( i swear they reused footage there...). I wonder if their fists collided too..lol Sorry i stand by my rating of 1 for that episode, painful. And that isn't even factoring in the missing manga goodness.
I have my own scale, and you have yours..
Where did I state that the animation was great (not that I think it isn't, this is just not my point)? My point is if you rate globaly and being intellectually honest the episode it cannot be rated 1, that is all.
Now your scale is purely based on emotional reaction level, without consideration for intellectual honesty, and that's your view. I won't bother to dissect your weird comments either (a huge marble column becomes a "rock"), as I fear it would be pointless.
Anybody notice how a volcano appeared in a COLD ENVIRONMENT like Pieta? (head scratching)
Haven't seen ep. 24 yet, but I can tell you that a "Cold environment" and a volcano are by no means mutually exclusive.
http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/europe_west_asia/hekla.html
Heck, there are even volcanic eruptions under water, as our Japanese Friends know very well (unfortunately).
hollywoodlou
2007-09-12, 18:12
gave it a 6. Originally started with a 9 because Raki was crying like a sissy but Jean ruined it by being Dr. Phil and convincing the twerp that he could be something. I actually gave it a 1 BUT Galatea showed up with great quotes so I'm back to 6.
I don't think there's anything wrong with rating the eps based on an emotional reaction, personally. So long as everyone knows that's where it's coming from he/she isn't being disingenuous at all.
Generally, I've loved people's reactions to the show this thread. There aren't so many "I hate Raki" comments, so far, too :heh:
What I would like to know is why they are "forcing" an ending? Why cant Claymore end on a cliffhanger and continue with OVAs, Madhouse doing a second season years later or a different company doing a second season years later... like Full Metal Panic (Gonzo) --> Full Metal Panic TSR (KyoAni). Or is it that Claymore is not popular enough to warrant a second season?
Tempest35
2007-09-12, 18:24
First off I’ll say that I really liked this episode. So what if it was just a build-up ep – it’s the build up to THE fight that everyone – even us manga readers – are truly looking forward to (despite the wait that it will entail). Clare vs Priscilla - this is the end-all, be-all.
Ah, to hell with manga comparisons...we're getting fanservice right now. Live with it. :D Thank you Madhouse
The youki visuals were beautiful. Much better than DBZ power ups – they only took 10 seconds at the most and not a lot of screentime in totality.
:D Helen really shone in this episode too – I’m glad they focused on her for a change. I really think that Helen thinks of Clare as being her little sister, possibly because she did lose one to a youma. Added to Miria’s determination to find her no matter what and Deneve honoring Undine before going with them was definitely a ‘All for One and One for All’ moment. Comrades Banzai.
Oh and Jean. Jean wouldn't be Jean if she did not take precious time trying to live to go motivate Raki a bit to move his little emo-arsing self. I'm glad he pulled out - I felt like performing one of those Epic Punches to knock him out of it. :D I Love Jean too. Don't die yet Jean...;_;
C'mon Raki, go impale yourself on Priscilla's horn so that she won't be able to see Clare coming. XD I'm teasing here...
And, as always, Priscilla… I don’t know why I like this girl – probably because she can stir the most debate about with just the mention of her name. :) That and she iced the strongest (and apparently most revered) character right off the bat. XD After watching this ep, I’m almost 100% certain that Priscilla has two personalities or alter egos if you will – Claymore Pris and Awakened Pris. See reasoning inside...
There's a couple of things that got my brain wrapped around the 'dual personality/alter ego' theory. First off, the way her voice changed and her expression, rather, her eyes. Even the manner of speech seems different. When Claymore Pris regained her memories, you noticed how did she react – almost identically to how she reacted when Teresa was defeating her. Even more so, her already unbalanced mentality was dealing with the memories of learning that she had not only killed Teresa, but that she Awakened while doing so. That, I think, was the trigger for Awakened Pris to manifest once again. It wasn’t the memories of killing her youmafied father, nor was it the shock of learning she had in fact killed Priscilla, whom she’s still deathly afraid of, but it was the shock of learning that she had Awakened that overloaded Claymore Pris. We all can remember how much Claymore Pris loved justice and righteousness so one can see why she’d flip at learning that she had become one of the monsters she had sworn to protect humanity from.
Why do I think dual personalities/alter egos? I’ve seen this before in the GetBackers story with Ginji Amano. He has an alter ego that they call ‘Raitei’ or ‘Lightning Lord’ in the story. While Ginji is not too bright, happy-go-lucky, and the most fun-loving and forgiving person you’d ever meet, piss him off too much and you get ‘Lightning Lord’, his alter ego. You can say that ‘LL’ is his defense mechanism whenever things get too tough for Ginji to comprehend and deal with. LL is completely different, down to the point where they even give off different ki. LL is a pure fighting machine, down to the point of his opponents say he fights by instinct and not by his conscious mind and can use the full measure of the power granted him through lighting, down to manipulating plasma to make dummies of himself in mid battle without his opponents perceiving that he had such knowledge to begin with (which he doesn’t, he just fights by instinct – kinda like how Battle Angel Alita can fight so well using plasma and knowing all its little tricks but sit her down in front of a book and she’s a blank).
I say that because Awakend Pris gives me the same vibe as LL does. Awakened Pris came out when Claymore Pris tried to comprehend herself Awakening and she couldn’t. So Awakend Pris put the blame of Awakening on Teresa in a way that would justify Priscilla Awakening to begin with. Now that she could feel Teresa’s youki again, she now has an outlet to vent Claymore Pris’s frustration through. Awakened Pris operates on her own level that’s ‘above the law’ if you will. She’s not bound to the same rules as Claymore Pris perceives that she is.
mercury lampe
2007-09-12, 18:26
I still don't get how Priscilla manages to associate what happened to her as being all Teresa's fault.....
I guess the flashbacks just reinforced how illogical she is...
Simple...
When Priscila become a claymore, she felt that she was in the right side, fighting por justice and human's sake.
Then, she was sending by te Org to defeat the traitor Teresa, whose evilness was showed when she killed some humans and challenge Org's authority.
Obviously, this is completely unforgivable from Priscila's point of view, and always believing that she represented the justice, Priscila proceeded to kill Teresa.
Until here, all is nice and Priscila's little word and beliefs kept save and untouched. But, unfortunately for her, the former rang #2 coulden't defeat Teresa, and you know, this is new: the strong paladin of justice Priscila were losing in front of teresa's evilness.
At this point, Priscila remembered something that she wanted to forget the most: the fear and the powerless she experimented when a yoma who looked exactly like her father was eating her family.
Little Priscila knew that this was unfair; she was innocent and neither her nor her relatives don't deserve such a punishment. Then, using the fear as a link, the mind of Priscila could connect both unjustices: that one of the yoma eating her beloveds, and this one where she (the justice) coulden't do anything against Teresa (the evilness)
This is how (i think) Priscila identified that yoma with Teresa.
Hope i've helped a little.
DazarGaidin
2007-09-12, 18:31
gave it a 6. Originally started with a 9 because Raki was crying like a sissy but Jean ruined it by being Dr. Phil and convincing the twerp that he could be something. I actually gave it a 1 BUT Galatea showed up with great quotes so I'm back to 6.
lol it sounds like you have you finger on the trigger as you watch the show.. :D
First off I’ll say that I really liked this episode. So what if it was just a build-up ep – it’s the build up to THE fight that everyone – even us manga readers – are truly looking forward to (despite the wait that it will entail). Clare vs Priscilla - this is the end-all, be-all.
Ah, to hell with manga comparisons...we're getting fanservice right now. Live with it. :D Thank you Madhouse
The youki visuals were beautiful. Much better than DBZ power ups – they only took 10 seconds at the most and not a lot of screentime in totality.
:D Helen really shone in this episode too – I’m glad they focused on her for a change. I really think that Helen thinks of Clare as being her little sister, possibly because she did lose one to a youma. Added to Miria’s determination to find her no matter what and Deneve honoring Undine before going with them was definitely a ‘All for One and One for All’ moment. Comrades Banzai.
Oh and Jean. Jean wouldn't be Jean if she did not take precious time trying to live to go motivate Raki a bit to move his little emo-arsing self. I'm glad he pulled out - I felt like performing one of those Epic Punches to knock him out of it. :D I Love Jean too. Don't die yet Jean...;_;
C'mon Raki, go impale yourself on Priscilla's horn so that she won't be able to see Clare coming. XD I'm teasing here...
And, as always, Priscilla… I don’t know why I like this girl – probably because she can stir the most debate about with just the mention of her name. :) That and she iced the strongest (and apparently most revered) character right off the bat. XD After watching this ep, I’m almost 100% certain that Priscilla has two personalities or alter egos if you will – Claymore Pris and Awakened Pris. See reasoning inside...
There's a couple of things that got my brain wrapped around the 'dual personality/alter ego' theory. First off, the way her voice changed and her expression, rather, her eyes. Even the manner of speech seems different. When Claymore Pris regained her memories, you noticed how did she react – almost identically to how she reacted when Teresa was defeating her. Even more so, her already unbalanced mentality was dealing with the memories of learning that she had not only killed Teresa, but that she Awakened while doing so. That, I think, was the trigger for Awakened Pris to manifest once again. It wasn’t the memories of killing her youmafied father, nor was it the shock of learning she had in fact killed Priscilla, whom she’s still deathly afraid of, but it was the shock of learning that she had Awakened that overloaded Claymore Pris. We all can remember how much Claymore Pris loved justice and righteousness so one can see why she’d flip at learning that she had become one of the monsters she had sworn to protect humanity from.
Why do I think dual personalities/alter egos? I’ve seen this before in the GetBackers story with Ginji Amano. He has an alter ego that they call ‘Raitei’ or ‘Lightning Lord’ in the story. While Ginji is not too bright, happy-go-lucky, and the most fun-loving and forgiving person you’d ever meet, piss him off too much and you get ‘Lightning Lord’, his alter ego. You can say that ‘LL’ is his defense mechanism whenever things get too tough for Ginji to comprehend and deal with. LL is completely different, down to the point where they even give off different ki. LL is a pure fighting machine, down to the point of his opponents say he fights by instinct and not by his conscious mind and can use the full measure of the power granted him through lighting, down to manipulating plasma to make dummies of himself in mid battle without his opponents perceiving that he had such knowledge to begin with (which he doesn’t, he just fights by instinct – kinda like how Battle Angel Alita can fight so well using plasma and knowing all its little tricks but sit her down in front of a book and she’s a blank).
I say that because Awakend Pris gives me the same vibe as LL does. Awakened Pris came out when Claymore Pris tried to comprehend herself Awakening and she couldn’t. So Awakend Pris put the blame of Awakening on Teresa in a way that would justify Priscilla Awakening to begin with. Now that she could feel Teresa’s youki again, she now has an outlet to vent Claymore Pris’s frustration through. Awakened Pris operates on her own level that’s ‘above the law’ if you will. She’s not bound to the same rules as Claymore Pris perceives that she is.
You make some intillegent and good arguments...that aside....you totally spoiled Getbackers for me :P
DazarGaidin
2007-09-12, 18:34
Simple...
When Priscila become a claymore, she felt that she was in the right side, fighting por justice and human's sake.
Then, she was sending by te Org to defeat the traitor Teresa, whose evilness was showed when she killed some humans and challenge Org's authority.
Obviously, this is completely unforgivable from Priscila's point of view, and always believing that she represented the justice, Priscila proceeded to kill Teresa.
Until here, all is nice and Priscila's little word and beliefs kept save and untouched. But, unfortunately for her, the former rang #2 coulden't defeat Teresa, and you know, this is new: the strong paladin of justice Priscila were losing in front of teresa's evilness.
At this point, Priscila remembered something that she wanted to forget the most: the fear and the powerless she experimented when a yoma who looked exactly like her father was eating her family.
Little Priscila knew that this was unfair; she was innocent and neither her nor her relatives don't deserve such a punishment. Then, using the fear as a link, the mind of Priscila could connect both unjustices: that one of the yoma eating her beloveds, and this one where she (the justice) coulden't do anything against Teresa (the evilness)
This is how (i think) Priscila identified that yoma with Teresa.
Hope i've helped a little.
Awesome, i see the connection there, its being powerless even though you are just. Hmm no wonder she identifies with raki...
It is rather funny that they decided to meet in a volcano though, instead of somewhere in Pieta.
It's like Priscilla declares "I'm going to finish you off once and for all, but only if you meet me in this volcano over here!"
stormy001_M1A2
2007-09-12, 18:52
What I would like to know is why they are "forcing" an ending? Why cant Claymore end on a cliffhanger and continue with OVAs, Madhouse doing a second season years later or a different company doing a second season years later... like Full Metal Panic (Gonzo) --> Full Metal Panic TSR (KyoAni). Or is it that Claymore is not popular enough to warrant a second season?
Problems
1. Money
2. Money
3. Did I mentioned money?
Animes are not cheap venture. Madhouse probably felt that Claymore is not popular enough so they decided to give a closure. Plus Claymore is not exactly a mainstream anime, so their interest in making more episodes other than stipulated 26 episode is minimal. As someone posted in other thread, DVD sales for Claymore is not doubt decent but far cry from sales volume perspective for example, Gundam Seed Destiny. 5000- 6000 sales versus 30,000 - 60,000 we talking here. And many people would disagree but Claymore is not exactly Japanese, no schoolgirls with those ridiculous skirts like Haruhi or moe sidekick animals running around like the creature in XXXholic or Tsubasa Chronicles. Hell I suspected Flora was given cutesy voice to rope in Japanese audience.
FMP is popular because it has school setting. If it is pure military anime, it would not do so well.
The most we can hope for is like Hellsing OVA which retell the story after GONZO did such an awful job in earlier work. But that will need money.
Any super rich Claymore fans here? Perhaps you can approach someone in Japan and ask them to do OVA which will make manga purists happy? Or even better, get Hollywood to do it? :D
As for me, I am quite happy with the anime and already ordering the Japanese DVD for eternal collection.
Problems
1. Money
2. Money
3. Did I mentioned money?
Animes are not cheap venture. Madhouse probably felt that Claymore is not popular enough so they decided to give a closure. Plus Claymore is not exactly a mainstream anime, so their interest in making more episodes other than stipulated 26 episode is minimal. As someone posted in other thread, DVD sales for Claymore is not doubt decent but far cry from sales volume perspective for example, Gundam Seed Destiny. 5000- 6000 sales versus 30,000 - 60,000 we talking here. And many people would disagree but Claymore is not exactly Japanese, no schoolgirls with those ridiculous skirts like Haruhi or moe sidekick animals running around like the creature in XXXholic or Tsubasa Chronicles. Hell I suspected Flora was given cutesy voice to rope in Japanese audience.
FMP is popular because it has school setting. If it is pure military anime, it would not do so well.
The most we can hope for is like Hellsing OVA which retell the story after GONZO did such an awful job in earlier work. But that will need money.
Any super rich Claymore fans here? Perhaps you can approach someone in Japan and ask them to do OVA which will make manga purists happy? Or even better, get Hollywood to do it? :D
As for me, I am quite happy with the anime and already ordering the Japanese DVD for eternal collection.
I would paraphrase the words that one person posted at another anime thread that many of us remembered and loved so much.
Claymore is another example like Elfen Lied of a rare toy that not everyone can afford to buy.
Claymore for being shounen-anime it offered something fresh to the genre.
Although why few or so little people barely ever complained about the Elfen Lied anime deviating from the manga (and offering us that sensational of a cliffhanger, opened-ending) on the last two episodes, the mainstream fandom for Claymore is fearing for their dear lives about the deviation the anime has strayed from the manga for episodes 21-26, hoping that Madhouse would be able to pull through some way or another.
I very stongly doubt that the decision to force an original ending was made in the middle of the show, or even in response to popularity or fan reception (in the worldwide community, Claymore has been a spectacular success - by pure download numbers, it reached SHNY-regions). Looking back, they started adjusting the story very early.
Example: Remember the Slashers arc, where Miria suddenly failed to mention that she "found out about the Organization's biggest secret" (manga)? Back then I thought it was just more in-character for her to keep quiet, but when this secret didn't get any mention at the conclusion of the Riful arc either, I was beginning to get suspicious. And by now we know that this missing "secret" was simply removed from the show, and along with it, all references to it from earlier chapters. This proves that at least when these chapters were created, this decision was already made final.
Actually I'm convinced they knew how they were going to end the show even before they started animating the first episode. This was planned and carefully executed right from the beginning.
stormy001_M1A2
2007-09-12, 19:20
Perhaps someone in Madhouse convinced that open ending is worst kind of ending so they decided to give a closure. Here I felt that they are too faithful to manga for 19 episodes so when they decided to change the last arc, things beginning to look a bit iffy for example as I pointed out, Raki unrealistic character development in terms of speed, Isley/Easley seemingly primitive lust for destruction all of sudden after so many years of holding back in the North, the larger picture concerning the Organization intent is never fully explored and more.
But this is just personal pet peeves. Feel free to disagree.
My opinion is, Claymore is kinda of story that needs a length like Legend of Galactic Heroes to be justified. Since the story have so many interesting characters running around with looming power play between the superpowers like the Organization and 3 ABs, 26 episodes is just skimming the surface.
BaalChaamon
2007-09-12, 19:38
on a different note...i like the way Rigardo's remnants are blow away by Claire's Yoki outburst..its like clearing the trash out :D
10/10 from me, and yup read the manga too, up to w/e was out last month xD. I personally love the way madhouse is taking the anime. Well...everything else I wanted to post has been so..yup thats all from me hehe.
WTB time machine to next Wednesday..plz...i wanna...so bad...MUST HAVE CLAYMORE!
Sorry, this episode was rubbish. It was all just filler. I just really hate sitting down for 20 minutes waiting for something to happen.
As for my opinions of the ending, I really don't care at this point if they close it off at one season or not, there is still the manga. If they have the funds and the incentive to make another season they will find a way to make it.
6/10 so the last 2 episodes we had raki cutting into fighting scences like he is the sh1t and now he cries like a little baby huh, what a bunch of tards
at MH.
Revolutionist
2007-09-12, 20:34
The main problem I see with this "conclusion" is:
There is no way in hell can Clare beat Priscilla, at least in the way the story was supposed to be going. Priscilla is so powerful that even all three Being of the Abyss or whatever you want to call them CANNOT defeat Priscilla one on one. Riful mentioned that the only way to beat her is by ganging up on her with two abyssal being. Unless Madhouse decide to make Clare 100% awaken and somehow her Youki can get close to or higher than Priscilla, there is absolutely no way for Clare to win. By staging this fight, they are basically throwing the Claymore storyline sideway in the sense that it is not even different interpretation of the storyline - it is a completely new storyline. Not only that, they completely skip over a lot of other interesting storyline, as with the way things are going, it is going to difficult to steer the story back closer to the manga storyline.
I don't see this problem you mention here.
Teresa was the strongest #1 Claymore of all time, she effortlessly defeated Priscilla 1on1 by only releasing 10% of her power, while Priscilla went ~80%. She probably could've defeated an Awakened Priscilla by only releasing maybe 10-20% of her power.
Clare is releasing 80% or more of her yoki, and my guess is the more she releases and the more yoma she becomes the stronger Teresa's "powers" grow inside, which should explain why Priscilla mistakes Clare for Teresa.
The fact is, even by manga standards, nobody really knows Clare's true potential, she's a wild card, so someone saying she can't defeat Priscilla means absolutely nothing.
Justice Knight
2007-09-12, 20:34
i hope the last 2 ep was raki going to the volcano and falls down into the pit
Problems
1. Money
2. Money
3. Did I mentioned money?
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damn they need more money for this pissed poor animation they are making? They barely even use any color since everything is blue and black, and they cut frame rate to 1/2 lol.
Pandalax
2007-09-12, 21:16
The flashbacks were done really well. The way they combined Priscilla's voice with the pictures created quite a nice effect.
You can't really blame Madhouse if you think the graphics looked kind of dull. The whole setting is at a place like the Arctic and the colours that they can actually use are limited to a very small spectrum.
I didn't really like how they choose the volcano to be the fight scene. It just seems too traditional. I guess they wanted to choose a special place for this fight to occur and once again, there's not much they can do since they are up North.
Sorry, this episode was rubbish. It was all just filler. I just really hate sitting down for 20 minutes waiting for something to happen.
You really need to learn what the word filler means.
DarkSide Hero
2007-09-12, 21:26
I gave this ep a 6 because they are trying to fill in too many plot holes with it; the consistency is very bad.
LOL this shit was stupid, Clare almost awakens enough to tear off her clothes and at the end she had them on again. Not to mention how fast Galatea got to Peta and what was the point in Priscillia running away to a distant volcano to fight, with Isley being the judge???:eyebrow:
Such bad writing is LOL worthy.
At least Raki discovered what a bitch he was.
whitepearl
2007-09-12, 21:28
Did anyone else notice how the character designs looked taller and skinnier than usual?
Galatea looked more like she was 6'8 than 6'2 and Helen and Miria also seemed to look taller (this was when Helen gave Raki his sword back and told him not to follow).
hollywoodlou
2007-09-12, 21:35
I gave this ep a 6 because they are trying to fill in too many plot holes with it; the consistency is very bad.
LOL this shit was stupid, Clare almost awakens enough to tear off her clothes and at the end she had them on again. Not to mention how fast Galatea got to Peta and what was the point in Priscillia running away to a distant volcano to fight, with Isley being the judge???:eyebrow:
Such bad writing is LOL worthy.
At least Raki discovered what a bitch he was.
I gave it a 6 as well, hours ago. The writing is Madhouse and don't even think Yag-sensei wrote this drivel. I'm cool with the Galatea quips like : 'IF I AM?" (as answer to the 3 being under surveillance). that's why I love Ms/ Claymore.
The volcano part was cliche, they could've fought @ Pieta, ya know? This is just for drama, of course. BUT if Raki starts saying "Clare" 8 times and saves her from transforming further, that's pretty much the last straw.
The good parts: Galatea, face time for tabitha and Cynthia.
bad parts: Jean being like Dr. Phil and convincing Raki to go...whats wrong with her?
Anyone notice how Helen is REALLY happy and befriended Clare? A far cry from the Slashers when helen would say to Clare: "what's wrong Clare? You miss having your toy keep you warm at night?"
Bikerider
2007-09-12, 21:36
As for volcanoes in Arctic regions. Check out the very active volcano In Antarctica.
whitepearl
2007-09-12, 21:36
on a different note...i like the way Rigardo's remnants are blow away by Claire's Yoki outburst..its like clearing the trash out :D
I also found that mildly amusing :heh:
Bodil Mars
2007-09-12, 21:39
*curls in a ball on the floor and says "there is no place like manga, there is no place like manga"*
Well I suppose it was a good episode 7/10, I mean who doesn't like an old western type showdown Anime style? :D...except I will always and forever wave the "Avenge Teresa" sign no matter what sob story they throw at me about Priscilla!(even if that sob story makes some sort of sense) As for Raki...he needs to pick up his back bone and be a big boy now...I mean if Jean can try and help clare with a gaping hole in her stomach I am sure Raki can do something productive other than weep. Galatea is so fabu, I was just happy so see her b/f the end. I really enjoy how Miria, Deneve and Helen care for Clare...I think it fits well even if the last couple epi's are deviating from the manga.
Well I am looking forward to the next epi and maybe, just maybe Raki will impale himself on his own sword...or he can try and help save clare...either or is fine with me :D
Icephere
2007-09-12, 21:40
Did anyone else notice how the character designs looked taller and skinnier than usual?
Galatea looked more like she was 6'8 than 6'2 and Helen and Miria also seemed to look taller (this was when Helen gave Raki his sword back and told him not to follow).
Galatea is very tall.According to her profile in the manga scan, she is about 180-185 cm
DarkSide Hero
2007-09-12, 21:41
As for volcanoes in Arctic regions. Check out the very active volcano In Antarctica.
The problem is not with the volcano being there; The problem is Priss and Clare using it as a battle ground, it doesn't make sense. :P
FullMetalKid
2007-09-12, 21:41
Completely and utterly disappointed in the last few eps including the final 2 eps remaining. Why, i expected to see a season 2. I mean my favorite character is Priscilla. There was so much more to this anime......what a shame. Alright i'm done ranting. On a side note about this ep, it does have its moments. If i don't compare it to the manga, (being a manga reader) this ep would've gotten a higher rating from me. I say about an 8 or 9 instead of the 6 or 5 that i gave it. Though i do wonder if Isley is going to do something besides being a spectator after all he isn't the strongest out of all the awakened beings. Good chance for him to be number 1.
Omfgbbqwtf
2007-09-12, 21:41
Good episode. The volcano part is kind of cheesy, but it can be overlooked. Galatea making her short appearence. Seems like she probably won't be involve in any fights, but somehow the look on her face just makes me think she will. Raki is just like chibi clare, can't do anything but to stand on the side and watch.
Next 2 episode should be really good. After all, Madhouse only has 2 more episodes to tie everything together, unless there will be a second season.
whitepearl
2007-09-12, 21:42
Galatea is very tall.According to her profile in the manga scan, she is about 180-185 cm
I knew that though I thought the height was a little exaggerated.
neutralizer
2007-09-12, 21:55
Oh man, the 2-part conclusion is gonna be epic. Priscilla vs. Clare. And how will Raki salvage them both?
It's nice to see after so much Raki the past couple of episodes, he comes to terms of his uselessness, but he also realizes what he can do - be there for Clare (and Priscilla).
hollywoodlou
2007-09-12, 22:01
Oh man, the 2-part conclusion is gonna be epic. Priscilla vs. Clare. And how will Raki salvage them both?
By sacrificing himself and jumping in front of their swords.
yupyupyup
2007-09-12, 22:21
Man, this is unexcusable. Claymore anime is getting worse. The way they rewrote the plot is a SIN, I'm telling ya!I don't mind the series ending like Berserk anime, but Claymore anime is like DBZ now: after defeating a minor boss and getting mostly trashed, the hero(ine) faces a more powerful boss and wins in the end. The only reason I'm watching the anime now is to see how bad the original plot get twisted.
Another note, I think Mr Yagi is pretty much stuck with story development LOL. 3 months with just 3 fillers, that seems worse than Berserk to me.
khryoleoz
2007-09-12, 22:22
This is ridiculous. They gave us no background on how Priscilla lost her memory, now all of a sudden she regains it? Talk about stretching sensibility. That they ran into each other is just plain unbelievable. Isley's group was to head south to deal with another AO. Since ep 20, I've continued to watch this in protest. Effing blank. There goes any hope for season 2, twins, Riful, and other interesting manga plots.
agreed with the above post. i wish they follow manga more. i was hoping there would be 2nd season. i want to see they animate the part where
well, make an underground club , help the new era claymores etc..
it has such big fan why end it all in just first season.
Sassarai
2007-09-12, 22:56
This is ridiculous. They gave us no background on how Priscilla lost her memory, now all of a sudden she regains it? Talk about stretching sensibility. That they ran into each other is just plain unbelievable. Isley's group was to head south to deal with another AO. Since ep 20, I've continued to watch this in protest. Effing blank. There goes any hope for season 2, twins, Riful, and other interesting manga plots.
My guess is that she lost her memory after killing teresa and shes in denial about the events that occur back then. She regained it when she sense clares yoki being similar to teresas. Remember that episode where irene said she felt a familiar yoki and saved clare? lol I dont think its far fetched that she remembered after that.
l I think a majority of the manga readers are just going to whine about anything thats not in the manga as inconsistencies. I read the manga but Ive watched the episode first then read the chapter that it covers.
Tempest35
2007-09-12, 23:09
Anyone notice how Helen is REALLY happy and befriended Clare? A far cry from the Slashers when helen would say to Clare: "what's wrong Clare? You miss having your toy keep you warm at night?"
Aw, Helen's a big softie. She's so loud that she doesn't know how to be nice and gentle in certain situations. Even when she was being 'rough' with Raki, she was just trying to protect him. Helen's just not a good Public Relations spokeswoman. :heh:
khryoleoz
2007-09-12, 23:11
You say it as if the reasons for which manga fans will gripe have no validity. The consumer (I still plan to buy the DVDs when they come over to region one) is voicing his reaction to a derangement of a product by diverging away from its very good original source significantly. The sting of RK S3 is still felt by me and Claymore TV hit me the same way in just the last 4 episodes!
Fenrir_valindri
2007-09-12, 23:11
Meh, I gave it a 6, I did like some of what they did in this episode, but too many things were poorly done.
Priscilla's oh-so-predictable "I must kill Teresa....AGAIN!" seriously, they just make her personality seem high, not crazy (like she is)
Raki's shinji-mode, seriously you spend episodes and episodes building up this character's determination, constantly ruining the pacing of one of the most awesome fight scenes, and then you do THIS!?
Galatea's oh-so-convenient appearance, she made it north FAST! and not only that, she also meets Miria and the others, provoked them for no reason, and then gives them advice.
Umm, make up your mind?!
Let's not forget the AB swarm just sitting around staring at nothing, man those guys sure must be bored, not getting to do anything at all.
and lets not forget the convienantly placed death-match volcano, with Isley as the referee.
Clare's EXTEREMLY predictable rage, that did not result in her awakening, but instead gave her a further DBZish boost.
The only things I liked about the episode were;
Jean's talk with Raki, two characters with very simliar roles, I was always a bit sad they they did not meet in the manga.
The last glimmer of hope to continue the manga plot, even if it was shot down. :upset:
and thats about it :heh:
hollywoodlou
2007-09-12, 23:13
Aw, Helen's a big softie. She's so loud that she doesn't know how to be nice and gentle in certain situations. Even when she was being 'rough' with Raki, she was just trying to protect him. Helen's just not a good Public Relations spokeswoman. :heh:
I thought so too. Helen is gravitating towards Clare rather than Deneve because Deneve treats her like an idiot. Deneve and Helen are opposites and it wouldn;t surprise me if those 2 were in the next extra Scene.
Tempest35
2007-09-12, 23:17
I thought so too. Helen is gravitating towards Clare rather than Deneve because Deneve treats her like an idiot. Deneve and Helen are opposites and it wouldn;t surprise me if those 2 were in the next extra Scene.
I see Helen treating Clare like a troublemaking little sister. So does Deneve and even Miria on occasion. They'll all bend like rubber to make sure that their precious 'little sister' comes out okay. :D
*sniff sniff* ... I smell fanfiction with this one...
hollywoodlou
2007-09-12, 23:28
I see Helen treating Clare like a troublemaking little sister. So does Deneve and even Miria on occasion. They'll all bend like rubber to make sure that their precious 'little sister' comes out okay. :D
*sniff sniff* ... I smell fanfiction with this one...
Yup. I was surprised that even frosty Deneve said: "Clare...she always surprises us..." after Clare shredded Rigaldo. You cant get that imagery out of the manga though.
Just like the Slashers arc...Clare saves the other 3 all over again.
Galatea's chin looks too pointy. Other than that, a good episode.
Kinematics
2007-09-13, 00:19
For the most part I enjoyed it. Clare losing it, Raki finally coming to terms with his helplessness, Helen's closeness with Clare, and being the cheering-up section for the wounded Claymores, the Slashers team working together again, and Deneve taking up Undine's sword. Good work.
The volcano: cheesy. Very cheesy. But at least there will be color in the background for the fight, instead of more dull grayness.
And at the pace Jean was moving, I really wonder how she and Raki are going to reach Clare (never mind *find* her) before Spring. :P
Priscilla wrapup: I can see why they're going this way to wrap the season up. No real complaints about the aim of the plot, only a bit annoyed at the execution.
Melodymix
2007-09-13, 00:20
I loved this episode. Can't wait for the fight :D
So different from the manga
oh yeah it gets different from after ep 22 i believe from the manga.
Does this ep follow the manga? I was wondering cuz I heard the anime will have break cuz of the manga not being done yet.(is it done?) So does this mean there will be no break if they dobnt follow the manga? (ending)
Hi everyone sorry to join the discussions on this anime kinda late, I was watching this back then and reading everyones opinions. But now I've tried to join the conversations.
I really like the anime and I collect the manga too (I do that for the animes I really enjoyed) although the manga here in the USA seems to be behind.
But anyways there was just something I've been wondering about. Back when Claire and Raki was in the middle of the forest, trying to get away from Ophelia.
Claire Kissed raki on the lips, I dont know why but this kinda throws me off.
So please correct me if im wrong, which I am hoping that I am. But isnt Raki a little BOY and Clair is a WOMAN? sorry if im just asking that now, I just remmebered about it when I watched this episode and saw Raki crying again.
Anyways good episode, although it seems to be getting rushed a bit.
But anyways there was just something I've been wondering about. Back when Claire and Raki was in the middle of the forest, trying to get away from Ophelia.
Claire Kissed raki on the lips, I dont know why but this kinda throws me off.
So please correct me if im wrong, which I am hoping that I am. But isnt Raki a little BOY and Clair is a WOMAN? sorry if im just asking that now, I just remmebered about it when I watched this episode and saw Raki crying again.
Anyways good episode, although it seems to be getting rushed a bit.
I think that kiss shocked many ppl. I always thought Clare and Raki was more like elder sister and little brother type of relationship until that kiss. I think what the hell?
Since Clare won't age, after a few years, when Raki becomes 18-20yr old. They look ok, if Raki can live that long.:heh:
Well, I actually think Raki and Pricilla will make a better couple......:D(Pricilla is even older than Clare)
i was pleasantly surprised by this episode =] i actually enjoyed it, and GALATEA APPEARED WHICH IS ALWAYS A PLUS!! =D i'm glad that raki finally got over his whole helplessness. he is much more tolerable now. i like how they showed clare's inner teresa, which was pretty great, although i dont know if that is my teresa fan side talking ^.^; oh well im interested in seeing how they'll end this and hopefully it will be excellent :)
haha cool b-day and i posted at the same time =D
And at the pace Jean was moving, I really wonder how she and Raki are going to reach Clare (never mind *find* her) before Spring. :P
LOL :D This made me laugh! Too true though- contrast their speed with the breakneck running that the other 3 are doing ;) Maybe the horse comes back? Difficult terrain it seems near the volcano though.
But anyways there was just something I've been wondering about. Back when Claire and Raki was in the middle of the forest, trying to get away from Ophelia.
Claire Kissed raki on the lips, I dont know why but this kinda throws me off.
So please correct me if im wrong, which I am hoping that I am. But isnt Raki a little BOY and Clair is a WOMAN? sorry if im just asking that now, I just remmebered about it when I watched this episode and saw Raki crying again.
Anyways good episode, although it seems to be getting rushed a bit.
Raki is 16 or something like that? Clare isn't that much older I think. Without referencing I'd say she would be in her early 20s at the very oldest. I can't remember how long a Claymore has to train for, but she would have been maybe 12(??) when Teresa was murdered, so add 7 years (not sure why I'm using this figure) =19. She's still number 47 so presumably hasn't been 'active' that long.
Backtrcking to one of the first episodes - can see what Raki may look like in the future by looking at his older brother.
p/s: Haven't checked facts at all about number of years here so... please do reference other sources/wait for other replies :)
Anh_Minh
2007-09-13, 03:53
Judging by Raki's height, he hasn't had his growth spurt yet, so 12 to 14?
As for Clare, since Claymores don't age, she could be anywhere from late teens to forties or more...
Sarugaki
2007-09-13, 04:19
Wow, Priscilla looks goooood. Usually "monsters" have a childish design in most animes, even my favorite ones, but here Priscilla's drawing is close to perfection.
Yeah, and Raki must be the most useless, whinny and annoying fictionnal character in the history of humanity.
D a m i e n
2007-09-13, 04:44
if you think raki is annoying please take a look at jacuzzi from bacano.
And at the pace Jean was moving, I really wonder how she and Raki are going to reach Clare (never mind *find* her) before Spring. :P
Jean will awaken and Raki can ride on her back. And then Raki will kill her when she loses her human mind.
PS: Everybody who thinks Claymore is average shonen stuff now should really read the manga. There are big chances they will like it more. Please don't judge the whole series based on the anime only, that breaks my heart XD
Shadow X
2007-09-13, 05:13
Not a bad eps. Can't wait to see what will happen to Raki and Jean next week. :D
Ah... a fight in a volcano. How climatic, yet so cheesy at the same time. Galatea's appearance was interesting. Was hoping she would fight, but it seems its mada-mada for her. As for miria and gang, I take it that they will take on Easley. In theory, clare has no chance against priscilla, but i guess they will weaken priscilla and make it so Manga Extra Scene 3 never happened.
And indeed, jean's gonna have some problem getting to the volcano. Maybe she'll awaken. Hmm.
Mandrake
2007-09-13, 05:27
this fight kind of reminds me of Revenge of the Sith, where the protagonist goes 'evil' (Anakin), hehehe
In theory, clare has no chance against priscilla, but i guess they will weaken priscilla and make it so Manga Extra Scene 3 never happened.
Theory ? What theory ? Clare obliterated Riguard with only her legs awakened, what could she do in fully awakened form ? We don't know, yet.
I really don't understand this ...
Couldn't they just make 26 canon episodes, name them the "first phase" or "part one" or"first ballz" or something, then continue with following the manga plot when they raised enough - provided the studio doesn't have enough money for more than 26 episodes? There were so many options, and yet they went for the DBZ one, which also happens to butcher the manga's course...
I would have liked to see a second part of the anime. I think it could have bcome one of the biggest action shounen series
zhoutai753
2007-09-13, 07:00
Theory ? What theory ? Clare obliterated Riguard with only her legs awakened, what could she do in fully awakened form ? We don't know, yet.
Good point, Clare obliterated one of the strongest of the awakened beings with only her legs awakened, now she got even more bloodlust with the potential of awakening fully. I daresay that Clare has a chance, even Galatea isn't sure of the outcome as of yet.
Sinestra
2007-09-13, 07:35
Gave this one an 8 out 10 having to watch Raki cry broke my soul "its being repaired hopefully in time for the next episode"
There were so many reasons for me to like Helen before and i now i just love her dearly. She really thinks of Clare as a little sister and even when she is ready to take Clares head off she still says she will never forgive her. The relationships within this small group of Claymores is like meat and patatos for me. They are not just killing machines they have hearts, feelings and value friendships they HUMAN in most simple way despite what powers they may have. This part of the story has always been a draw to me since we saw the change in Clare when Raki came on the scene. Jean is probably the most loyal character in the series with a gapping freaking hole in her chest she still gave Raki advice to stop his sobbing and started to make her way towards Clare. I have no idea how she will be of any help but maybe her just being there for support will be enough, the question is if she will survive. Galatea make another appearence and manages to surprise us again in that im too cool for school kind of way. Helen, Denvere and Miria ready to fight to the death against her to me thats friendship.
What to say about Clare well this tough. I thought that she would be ok if she didnt awaken to much that she would still be able to revert back. But after she started controlling her leggs i knew it was a problem. Even though she defeated simba it came at a price. That being said I still feel that Clare can force her awaken state to revert. Maybe im wrong or its just speculation but she has not fully awakened yet it doesnt feel like she has. Regardless the question is if she is not fully awakened does she have the strength to win aganist Pricllia? But if she has awakend can she beat Pricillia and revert back? Things dont look too good but im going to be optimistic im just worried we dont really know Esley's real motivations as of yet but hes there watching.
I find it amusing that Pricillia got her memory back after seeing the townsfolk dead it made her remember what happend to her. So one traumatic event took away her memories and another one bought them back and she is still blaming her inability to deal with tragedies in life on someone else, after all it was her own fault for awakening in the first place and not listening to her team leader. I had never even thought of the possibility that she would mistake Clare for Teresa. But it makes sense given the Yoki and how she reads it. If i were Pricillia i would be more worried about Clare than Teresa Clare has more of reason to gut her and wear her like winter coat than anyone. Plus Clare is pissed really really pissed i dont know how things will turn out but Raki will show up just in time to do............:twitch:............................ .:confused: ummm to do whatever it is that Raki does
UnknownSoldier
2007-09-13, 08:08
I think the problem that many people who read the manga are now dealing with is that the latest Extra chapter put Ligardes', Isley's and Priscilla's strength into a rather solid perspective (Not sure about others, but I'm still unsure where Priscilla even caps off). This makes the anime seem rather ridiculous with the amount of power Clare is gaining, and how weak everyone else seems to be. Even my friend, who has made every effort to avoid reading the manga before the anime is finished, made a comment on how silly it all seems right now.
Good point, Clare obliterated one of the strongest of the awakened beings with only her legs awakened, now she got even more bloodlust with the potential of awakening fully. I daresay that Clare has a chance, even Galatea isn't sure of the outcome as of yet.
Comments like these make me realize how badly Madhouse is handling the whole strength issue. I mean Ligardes is nowhere near as strong as Isley, and Priscilla is even stronger than him. At the current course the anime is taking, they're going to have to dumb-down Priscilla incredibly... may even make her seem weaker than when she fought Teresa.
Although I've read the manga briefly I don't think I really mind seeing the anime differ from the manga. I find it interesting to view the anime and watch the outcome. Although I guess I would have liked it better if I had read the manga later, like after this series ends.
khryoleoz
2007-09-13, 09:20
Someone who has read the manga only briefly can certainly say that.
I liked Love Hina TV too...until I read the manga. Had I read the manga first, my reactions to the anime would have been just as negative.
Anime Rubel actually near Pieta? Manga Rubel didn't give a rat's behind. He sent them there to die. Looks like Anime Rubel is trying to make sure everyone's dead, from my standpoint...and Galatea's gonna rat him out, just like in the manga.
there are 2 "eyes" of the ORG, 1st was Raphaela THEN Galatea.
There's something fishy because Ermita is Galatea's watcher...so WTH is Rubel doing there?
************
One thing I noticed when the 3 Slashers faced Galatea, the 3 knew they were going to get their asses handed to them. Anyone remember that Galatea "flinched" still with her sword unsheathed and the 3 jumped? Now, that''s power.
There doesn't have to be anything sinister about Rubel's appearance. It might just be BAD writing! He did appear with her just around this time, only under slightly different...okay VERY different circumstances of GREATER import.
We can also give up on Raphaela's cameo with that interesting prologue. Isley didn't even make it down south. Man, the more I talk about it the more I #@%!...
Bonta Kun
2007-09-13, 10:58
Oh to hell with the story now, a volcano!! what a setting!! didn't see that one coming.
I'm not bothered at the anim'se outcome at this point as I read the manga, just I want to see some great action. Which looks like me might get, I mean a VOLCANO!!!:D
don't know why, but a volcano setting is a win in my book :p
What things come into my mind, why they use a Volcano...
The Loser bites the dust... Well, turn into dust or something :) I don't think that ABs are heat resident :)
Teresa/Clare1415
2007-09-13, 11:27
Hey, I'm actually starting to like what's happening in the anime!
Sinestra
2007-09-13, 11:54
Oh to hell with the story now, a volcano!! what a setting!! didn't see that one coming.
I'm not bothered at the anim'se outcome at this point as I read the manga, just I want to see some great action. Which looks like me might get, I mean a VOLCANO!!!:D
don't know why, but a volcano setting is a win in my book :p
what better location can there be for a epic battle 20 or something episodes in the making. I mean hell I fight in volcanos all the time its not hard to find one if you can stand heat i would recommend it. This is as close as people are going to get to a hotsprings episode. LOL
But seriously WTF where the hell did the volcano come from. They could not have flown that far up till now i had compliants about the settings for fights but now this is just silly.
Icephere
2007-09-13, 11:54
What things come into my mind, why they use a Volcano...
The Loser bites the dust... Well, turn into dust or something :) I don't think that ABs are heat resident :)
I think we will probably know why it is very signficant in the next episode. It looked as if Priscilla intended to lure Clare to that place. Maybe it is Priscilla's favorite playground to have a heated battle with her nemesis?
Bikerider
2007-09-13, 12:06
From the small amount of time showing the other Claymores, I see they are all badly chewed up. Deneve's uniform seems to be the least damaged of the injured.
@Sinestra: Rigardo => Simba!BRILLIANT! :D ROFLMAO!
I really feel for Clare at the moment because I do want to give Priscilla a good kicking somewhere. Technically speaking, Teresa hadn't even begun to *look* remotely awakened when she was beating the carp out Priscilla, and it was only because the latter was so disgusting devious that took Teresa by surprise.
With regards to the ground - maybe she doesn't like buildings? Or perhaps she's trying to pull a Lord of the Rings.
In my mind (only speculation so not a spoiler here): Clare and Priscilla have a great fight, but ultimately it goes to one side:
1. Clare wins: Raki jumps up with Jean and helps Clare to regress back to her normal body
2. Priscilla is about to throw Clare off the rocky terrain into lava-lava land: but Raki jumps up, and finally gets to use his sword. Bye bye Priscilla. We return to scenario 1.
Anh_Minh
2007-09-13, 12:33
What things come into my mind, why they use a Volcano...
The Loser bites the dust... Well, turn into dust or something :) I don't think that ABs are heat resident :)
Resistant, and why wouldn't they be?
Also, you just know the loser's only going to come back as a cyborg with a weird breathing apparatus.
But seriously WTF where the hell did the volcano come from. They could not have flown that far up till now i had compliants about the settings for fights but now this is just silly.
Obviously, Isley ordered to his army of Awaked Ones to bring one from the nearest city with a Volcano because it's a beautiful scenario for a final showdown.
Why do you guys think all the A.O.s atacking Pietta suddenly disappeared for 3 episodes? :D :rolleyes:
Obviously, Isley ordered to his army of Awaked Ones to bring one from the nearest city with a Volcano because it's a beautiful scenario for a final showdown.
Why do you guys think all the A.O.s atacking Pietta suddenly disappeared for 3 episodes? :D :rolleyes:
I Knew it, HOT SPRINGS are in the Volcano.... :)
Edit: Claymore Humor....
Edit2: i have taken the "Thumbnails" version of them, because of their Bandwidth...
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2017.jpg
"What's that. I sense a disturbing in the Force. I feel.... i feel, Joy?"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2018.jpg
"Hold there Missy. You have to go and report me the Claymore that found my secret Hot spring."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2019.jpg
"Whats that, my little Prisi feels enjoyment....
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-11.jpg
"WTF, and i am here with this Guys....(I envy her!)"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2021.jpg
"Hot Springs? Sure. I am on it!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2022.jpg
"Hey little Brat, you coming with us, too?. I make sure i wash your back very clean :)" (Guess how is speaking)
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2023.jpg
"What, you not going with us?"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2027.jpg
"Dam it, why he haven't come with us... there will be so much fun with him around...."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2024.jpg
"Hold right there!. I am the protector of this volcano hot spring. Here is no trans passing without losing your Life!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2026.jpg
"Clare will be inside of the spring. Le..."
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-15.jpg
"You may pass!!!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2028.jpg
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2029.jpg
"Wow, i can see their nipples!!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2010.jpg
"Clare, there! .An Pedo...."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2030.jpg
"Hold it right there Hentai!!"
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-20.jpg
"Now, my Horn is washed and shine like a Sun!"
"I love this instant dry here."
Story pictures Episode 24 taken from my favorites Blogs
Gomene, Omni and WRex-san :)
Twisted Reality
2007-09-13, 13:45
Oh to hell with the story now, a volcano!! what a setting!! didn't see that one coming.
I'm not bothered at the anim'se outcome at this point as I read the manga, just I want to see some great action. Which looks like me might get, I mean a VOLCANO!!!:D
don't know why, but a volcano setting is a win in my book :p
Death metal concert! *throws up the horns!*
Sinestra
2007-09-13, 14:02
Obviously, Isley ordered to his army of Awaked Ones to bring one from the nearest city with a Volcano because it's a beautiful scenario for a final showdown.
Why do you guys think all the A.O.s atacking Pietta suddenly disappeared for 3 episodes? :D :rolleyes:
LAMO thats brilliant its like a mobile home for Yomas :heh:
hollywoodlou
2007-09-13, 15:35
I Knew it, HOT SPRINGS are in the Volcano.... :)
Edit: Claymore Humor....
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2017.jpg
"What's that. I sense a disturbing in the Force. I feel.... i feel, Joy?"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2018.jpg
"Hold there Missy. You have to go and report me the Claymore that found my secret Hot spring."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2019.jpg
"Whats that, my little Prisi feels enjoyment....
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-11.jpg
"WTF, and i am here with this Guys....(I envy her!)"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2021.jpg
"Hot Springs? Sure. I am on it!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2022.jpg
"Hey little Brat, you coming with us, too?. I make sure i wash your back very clean :)" (Guess how is speaking)
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2023.jpg
"What, you not going with us?"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2027.jpg
"Dam it, why he haven't come with us... there will be so much fun with him around...."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2024.jpg
"Hold right there!. I am the protector of this volcano hot spring. Here is no trans passing without losing your Life!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2026.jpg
"Clare will be inside of the spring. Le..."
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-15.jpg
"You may pass!!!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2028.jpg
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2029.jpg
"Wow, i can see their nipples!!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2010.jpg
"Clare, there! .An Pedo...."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2030.jpg
"Hold it right there Hentai!!"
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-20.jpg
"Now, my Horn is washed and shine like a Sun!"
"I love this instant dry here."
Story pictures Episode 24 taken from my favorites Blogs
Gomene, Omni and WRex-san :)
Madhouse... I forgive you then!;)
WarBaby2
2007-09-13, 15:54
Oh to heck with it... We are getting a horn to (ugly) head finale. It's nearly over, so lets hope we get a good *bang bang* ending... not much more to expect from hereon out...
But this race over the icefield was cool. ;)
I give it a 6... fpr Helen's and Galathea's performance! :D
Icephere
2007-09-13, 17:00
I Knew it, HOT SPRINGS are in the Volcano.... :)
Edit: Claymore Humor....
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2017.jpg
"What's that. I sense a disturbing in the Force. I feel.... i feel, Joy?"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2018.jpg
"Hold there Missy. You have to go and report me the Claymore that found my secret Hot spring."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2019.jpg
"Whats that, my little Prisi feels enjoyment....
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-11.jpg
"WTF, and i am here with this Guys....(I envy her!)"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2021.jpg
"Hot Springs? Sure. I am on it!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2022.jpg
"Hey little Brat, you coming with us, too?. I make sure i wash your back very clean :)" (Guess how is speaking)
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2023.jpg
"What, you not going with us?"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2027.jpg
"Dam it, why he haven't come with us... there will be so much fun with him around...."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2024.jpg
"Hold right there!. I am the protector of this volcano hot spring. Here is no trans passing without losing your Life!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2026.jpg
"Clare will be inside of the spring. Le..."
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-15.jpg
"You may pass!!!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2028.jpg
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2029.jpg
"Wow, i can see their nipples!!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2010.jpg
"Clare, there! .An Pedo...."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2030.jpg
"Hold it right there Hentai!!"
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-20.jpg
"Now, my Horn is washed and shine like a Sun!"
"I love this instant dry here."
Story pictures Episode 24 taken from my favorites Blogs
Gomene, Omni and WRex-san :)
LOL!You should make a Raki harem humor story using the claymore anime screenshots.
The claire flying off part is not good. it clearly disrupt the pace. cant the animation team think of something better? the whole scene from raki's appearance to claire flying off is just so out of place. the whole serie was so smooth and the pace was really good until they decided to change the story... now claymore the animation become suxor!
TheNewbSwordsMan
2007-09-13, 19:02
im so glad i didnt read the manga yet, im waiting for the anime to be over to see what they changed.
as such, this episode was the best in my opinion so far, way to go animation team, the action was so fast and so many things developed at once without being too confusing, that it made for not 1 second wasted during the whole episode, even the mini raki parts didnt bother me this time around.
IF i was jaded by knowing what happened in the manga, im pretty sure i would have felt cheated and hurried by them cramming all that into one episode, but since i dont know whats missing, it just feels so damn action packed, it was great, 10 out of 10 bang bang bang.
DazarGaidin
2007-09-13, 19:57
im so glad i didnt read the manga yet, im waiting for the anime to be over to see what they changed.
as such, this episode was the best in my opinion so far, way to go animation team, the action was so fast and so many things developed at once without being too confusing, that it made for not 1 second wasted during the whole episode, even the mini raki parts didnt bother me this time around.
IF i was jaded by knowing what happened in the manga, im pretty sure i would have felt cheated and hurried by them cramming all that into one episode, but since i dont know whats missing, it just feels so damn action packed, it was great, 10 out of 10 bang bang bang.
What action?
rotfl
hollywoodlou
2007-09-13, 20:43
Oh to heck with it... We are getting a horn to (ugly) head finale. It's nearly over, so lets hope we get a good *bang bang* ending... not much more to expect from hereon out...
But this race over the icefield was cool. ;)
I give it a 6... fpr Helen's and Galathea's performance! :D
Yup. It was the Helen and Galatea show.
Helen showing LOTS of emotion from pure happiness after Clare shredded lion boy (while announcing to Mira/Deneve that Clare killed him) to sincere sadness when she was asked to kill Clare...just like in the manga.
This is the same Helen in the Slashers arc who would piss off Clare with quips like:
"So Clare, why so sad? You miss your toy (Raki) to keep you warm at night?"
:heh:
to...
"I will do everything to find Clare, no matter what!!!";)
****
and Galatea looks like she knew Miria based on her conversation. It could be that the next extra scene be Galatea's.
Tempest35
2007-09-13, 20:52
Who doesn't know Miria? :p
FlareKnight
2007-09-13, 21:10
At any rate. The real tragedy of this episode is Irene's sleeve got busted up :). Forget going anime original, or a battle in a volcano that is the major issue. On the positive side this is a chance for her to get a bit of revenge for losing her left arm against Priscilla.
Personally I found the volcano thing hilarious. It's like they went beyond in making it some massive epic battle. You can't have a final battle without a volcano that's for sure.
I'd expect Galatea as one of the top 3 to have a pretty good idea who the rest of the claymores in the top 10 or so are. Probably has their yoki memorized as well so she knew it was Miria of course. Wonder if Galatea is just going to sit around and wish the injured Jean and Raki on their way.
hehe, i enjoyed the ep, tho any second series looks impossible now...eh maybe when the manga concludes they can just pick up from where they altered it in the anime xD. Till then i'll kick back and enjoy the anime for what its worth, which IMO it's still a kick ass anime...just wishing i hadn't broke down last month and caught up on all the manga online.....
ashesatdusk
2007-09-14, 02:30
Okay this is the first episode I had here and there quibbles with mostly because there were some things done for cheese effect. They had to toss Ms.Claymore in there somehow, which was nice but very random. Then the volcano thing seems almost a bit too cliche (Starwars episode III any one?).
I'm rather glad they've moved from the manga, for an original ending as opposed to a cliff hanger. If they had ended where no sanin had predicted in the claymore ending thread, I wouldn't have minded, but it makes sense in many ways too creat an alternate ending, if the manga is no where near complete, and the run isn't long enough to cover the material, and the material is released to slowly for the anime to keep up. In the case of claymore, I think in some ways following the manga to faithfully the first 19 episodes, really did more to harm it and help it.
Since many of the manga readers spent time nit picking at things like animation or art. Personally after watching this, mad house has become my favorite production studio. Now I've finished venting.
Interesting from the previews of 25 it almost seems like Priscilla may in the end, let clare win to prevent her from awakening. It what I though was implied from the few words and clips at the end of 24.
More evidence is brought by this by Priscilla's attitude towards her own awakening in the anime, which isn't brought up at all in the manga. The Scene with her crying over eating guts, and the blame she places on teresa for her awkening at the end of the flash back. I think we may see a repeat of ophelia again.
P
hollywoodlou
2007-09-14, 02:34
I just realized that Jean is the new Raki. They're both useless and they keep obsessing about Clare.
Crying_Silver_Eyes
2007-09-14, 05:02
"Please excuse the crudity of this model, I didn't have time to build it to scale or to paint it".
http://docdoom.altervista.org/_altervista_ht/Claymore_Wars_III.jpg
"Please excuse the crudity of this model, I didn't have time to build it to scale or to paint it".
http://docdoom.altervista.org/_altervista_ht/Claymore_Wars_III.jpg
took me a minute to figure out those were light sabers...i was only looking at priscilla's glowing red thing at first. I enjoyed the other guy's screen cap story better.
Shadow X
2007-09-14, 05:44
I Knew it, HOT SPRINGS are in the Volcano.... :)
Edit: Claymore Humor....
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2017.jpg
"What's that. I sense a disturbing in the Force. I feel.... i feel, Joy?"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2018.jpg
"Hold there Missy. You have to go and report me the Claymore that found my secret Hot spring."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2019.jpg
"Whats that, my little Prisi feels enjoyment....
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-11.jpg
"WTF, and i am here with this Guys....(I envy her!)"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2021.jpg
"Hot Springs? Sure. I am on it!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2022.jpg
"Hey little Brat, you coming with us, too?. I make sure i wash your back very clean :)" (Guess how is speaking)
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2023.jpg
"What, you not going with us?"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2027.jpg
"Dam it, why he haven't come with us... there will be so much fun with him around...."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2024.jpg
"Hold right there!. I am the protector of this volcano hot spring. Here is no trans passing without losing your Life!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2026.jpg
"Clare will be inside of the spring. Le..."
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-15.jpg
"You may pass!!!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2028.jpg
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2029.jpg
"Wow, i can see their nipples!!"
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2010.jpg
"Clare, there! .An Pedo...."
http://randomc.animeblogger.net/image/Claymore/Claymore%20-%2024%20-%2030.jpg
"Hold it right there Hentai!!"
http://wrexgrafix.com/anime/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/clay24/_clay24-20.jpg
"Now, my Horn is washed and shine like a Sun!"
"I love this instant dry here."
Story pictures Episode 24 taken from my favorites Blogs
Gomene, Omni and WRex-san :)
Oh gosh. Rofl it is so funny! :heh:
Tempest35
2007-09-14, 06:57
I just realized that Jean is the new Raki. They're both useless and they keep obsessing about Clare.
No no, don't you realize that they are setting up to re-enact the most GAR moment this year??? :D :D :D
"GIGAA DRIIILL BREEEAAAAAKKEEEERR~!!"
Anh_Minh
2007-09-14, 08:15
... Does that mean that Jean will jump on Raki's shoulder while they shout "Gattai!"?
"Noo noo she/he power level is all wrong! In the manga it is stated that ..." Boy am I glad that I didn't read manga. Might have ruined the experience judging by the whining. Claymore is currently so awesome that I can't even imagine what is wrong with it. I can just take the story as it is. And it is awesome.
Too bad we didn't get to see any cool fights this time. But they really made me psyched up for the next episode. Can't wait. Only thing that bothered me was that everyone was "It's all okay now!" when Clare defeated Simba. Did they forget the 20 awakened beings just outside of town? :)
DazarGaidin
2007-09-14, 08:32
Yeah, they just ran off and left the other claymores to die :P
Sinestra
2007-09-14, 09:09
No no, don't you realize that they are setting up to re-enact the most GAR moment this year??? :D :D :D
"GIGAA DRIIILL BREEEAAAAAKKEEEERR~!!"
OMFG you WIN that was so great im still laughing my co workers are wondering what the hell is wrong with me:heh: 2 points for you.
Im just waiting for Raki and Jene to meet to Esley and he will spout something about being impotent. How do they reply you ask
Whoooo the fuck do you think we are
I am still having trouble to digest how did Clare instantly recognized the Yoki belonging to Priscilla.
Ok. I'll admit that I'm a jerk to plainly overlook that she took Teresa's blood and flesh from the head. Teresa fought Priscilla; she sense her yoki; she felt her yoki.
Teresa already had Priscilla's yoki processed and memorized throughout all her cells. Logic states then that when Clare became a hybrid from Teresa's flesh she also did inherit the knowledge of Priscilla's yoki as well.
While in spoiler tags I am proposing a farfetch'd and totally different theory from the one above it does makes sense if you carefully paid attention to what you saw on episode one.
For the facts, chibi Clare witnessed the fight.
Priscilla awakened at that time.
When she awakened her yoki was scattered within a tumultous shockwave.
Most likely that chibi Clare getting hit by the shockwave and got stained with AB Priscilla's yoki all over her body.
It is likely and logical to assume that when chibi Clare became a Claymore she still got some or a few of AB Priscilla's yoki on her body.
She simply got familiarized with that yoki and thus had her whole body cells to memorize it.
Sinestra
2007-09-14, 10:05
I am still having trouble to digest how did Clare instantly recognized the Yoki belonging to Priscilla.
Ok. I'll admit that I'm a jerk to plainly overlook that she took Teresa's blood and flesh from the head. Teresa fought Priscilla; she sense her yoki; she felt her yoki.
Teresa already had Priscilla's yoki processed and memorized throughout all her cells. Logic states then that when Clare became a hybrid from Teresa's flesh she also did inherit the knowledge of Priscilla's yoki as well.
While in spoiler tags I am proposing a farfetch'd and totally different theory from the one above it does makes sense if you carefully paid attention to what you saw on episode one.
For the facts, chibi Clare witnessed the fight.
Priscilla awakened at that time.
When she awakened her yoki was scattered within a tumultous shockwave.
Most likely that chibi Clare getting hit by the shockwave and got stained with AB Priscilla's yoki all over her body.
It is likely and logical to assume that when chibi Clare became a Claymore she still got some or a few of AB Priscilla's yoki on her body.
She simply got familiarized with that yoki and thus had her whole body cells to memorize it.
Its not as complicated as your making it.Well its pretty much the same way Priscilla recongized Teresa's yoki. Even though it was not her Priscilla mistakes Clare for her. Since Clare obtained Teresa flesh in order to become a Claymore she has has traces of her powers which has been show plenty of times. ITs that reallysurprising that Clare knew exactly whose yoki it was when Priscilla finally snapped out of her memory loss. Even if Clare was hit by Priscilla's yoki in the past she was still human it would not have mattered
Its not as complicated as your making it.Well its pretty much the same way Priscilla recongized Teresa's yoki. Even though it was not her Priscilla mistakes Clare for her. Since Clare obtained Teresa flesh in order to become a Claymore she has has traces of her powers which has been show plenty of times. ITs that reallysurprising that Clare knew exactly whose yoki it was when Priscilla finally snapped out of her memory loss. Even if Clare was hit by Priscilla's yoki in the past she was still human it would not have mattered
Or maybe she just recognized youki stronger than even that of Riful ?
DazarGaidin
2007-09-14, 11:53
Yeah, she coulda thought 'Wow, it has to be her, no one else could be this strong'. Though admittedly that wasn't what first sprang to my mind when i saw the scene.
i dont have all the details but from the screens i saw......
w t f.
can anyone pm me exactly wtf happened this time?
Elandyll
2007-09-14, 13:05
I think the problem that many people who read the manga are now dealing with is that the latest Extra chapter put Ligardes', Isley's and Priscilla's strength into a rather solid perspective (Not sure about others, but I'm still unsure where Priscilla even caps off). This makes the anime seem rather ridiculous with the amount of power Clare is gaining, and how weak everyone else seems to be. Even my friend, who has made every effort to avoid reading the manga before the anime is finished, made a comment on how silly it all seems right now.
Comments like these make me realize how badly Madhouse is handling the whole strength issue. I mean Ligardes is nowhere near as strong as Isley, and Priscilla is even stronger than him. At the current course the anime is taking, they're going to have to dumb-down Priscilla incredibly... may even make her seem weaker than when she fought Teresa.
If you think a little about it, maybe it's the manga (Gasp!) that has it wrong. And yes I've read it.
I mean, here is how it goes:
Manga: Clare confronts a vilain that is 100x stronger than she is. Recovers initial serious beating (Church, Moutain male awakened, Riful, Ophelia, Rigald...etc.), and prevails ... somehow.
Anime: Makes it clear that Clare has been starting to tap in Teresa's potential, thus realizing what the organization had envisionned (and you know this even moreso if you have read the manga). By going borderline awakened, she can tap more and more into that potential, until the point that she "might" surpass even Teresa (we all know that a hybrid is stronger than the two originals he/she had been made with, or at lerast that is the base of the series).
The anime is starting to make more sense to me tbh.
hollywoodlou
2007-09-14, 13:19
Yeah, they just ran off and left the other claymores to die :P
Clare will be pissed!:heh: Well, you saw Jean's look on her face with Raki. She's thinking, "I've got this humongous hole on my tummy, screw this crap". Besides, with the amount of blood she lost, how the hell can she be standing like that? She's got Clare syndrome and needs to get a life.
Raki: "so , Jean...you're into drills, huh?'
Don't have a problem with Clare recognising Priscilla (or rather the Yoki) instantly. She's geared herself for many years to fight Priscilla, so it would be surprising if she hadn't realised.
Sinestra
2007-09-14, 14:06
If you think a little about it, maybe it's the manga (Gasp!) that has it wrong. And yes I've read it.
I mean, here is how it goes:
Manga: Clare confronts a vilain that is 100x stronger than she is. Recovers initial serious beating (Church, Moutain male awakened, Riful, Ophelia, Rigald...etc.), and prevails ... somehow.
Anime: Makes it clear that Clare has been starting to tap in Teresa's potential, thus realizing what the organization had envisionned (and you know this even moreso if you have read the manga). By going borderline awakened, she can tap more and more into that potential, until the point that she "might" surpass even Teresa (we all know that a hybrid is stronger than the two originals he/she had been made with, or at lerast that is the base of the series).
The anime is starting to make more sense to me tbh.
I like your theroy very much and i have held off on reading the manga since i dont want it to effect what i see in the anime while im watching it. But the one thing i really agree on is that a hybrid is usually stronger than the 2 originals and from the spoilers from the manga i have read a lot of it makes sense. Clares power build up has happen over the course of series not in 3 or 4 episodes. The potential was there she just needed to learn how to control it. Which is why i have some hope that she might be able to revert back to human form. Maybe the org. wanted to make Claymores that could awaken and recieve all the benefits that go with it but could return to human form afterwards. This would be an extremly powerful fighting force with out having to deal with the buisness of awakend beings that go off chowing down on people. There has got to be a reason why they kept her alive all this time and it has to be the potenial power up that she recieved from being fused with what remained of Teresa. Granted its just a theory but sometimes the simplest answers are the ones that make sense in the end.
Good job man now im really dying for next episode Sigh a whole week before i can caure my Claymoreides
Tempest35
2007-09-14, 14:22
Im just waiting for Raki and Jene to meet to Esley and he will spout something about being impotent. How do they reply you ask
Whoooo the fuck do you think we are
Raki: The two paths between human and Claymore intertwine to create the path of the Spiral! Breaking through destinies and Awakened Beings alike!
Jean: Piercing tomorrow's destiny as yesterday's enemies! Breaking down walls and creating a new path towards the future with our own hands!
Both: The Heart's Final Ignition! Perfect Union of Fates - Gurren Lagaan! Who the hell - do all of you - think we are!?
Deneve: ...idiots...
Miria: On top of a volcano, no less...
Helen: :love: I LOVE YOU RAKI!!
Easley: I want his burning heart~!
superzombie23
2007-09-14, 15:23
I thought the volcano thing was stupid and hilarious lol. There must have been some Zelda/LotR fans on the episode team, since they made it look like Hyrule, and there's a Death Mountain/Mt. Doom on the edge of the map from the view of the Claymores' running toward it. I guess Pieta is supposed to be like Kakariko Village. Couldn't think of a better place to fight where the one ring can be destroyed :P? I guess they're going for a final Raki scene where he's stupid enough to go to the crater and yell at Clare, and Clare or him or Priscilla will probably fall in the volcano and die after some emotional scene, then the volcano will erupt, and that's pretty much the start of the epilogue. More filler plz :heh:
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