Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 25 Discussion / Poll [Archive]

Skyfall

2007-09-16, 08:47

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Aaron008R

2007-09-16, 08:57

About time for the final match.:)

Any ideas for possible changes in RH's appearance in full power Blaster form?

Will Hayate at least get a shot out?:heh: Unison?!:upset:

Will the fleet at least reach?:heh:

What'll happen to Signum, Zest and Agito's side of the story?

Will we see Arc-en-Ciel again?

Will Vivio live?

Will Fate rush back to the Cradle's site? (highly unlikely, though...)

Will they show what Relics REALLY are now?

The chances of seeing Starlight/Ragnarok Breaker?

Will Chrono spend the entire episode sitting down?:heh:

Is Nanoha not really a full human?:eek:

Quattro?

Hope that covers a sizable amount of the questions...:heh:

rtwesen

2007-09-16, 08:58

please give us a SLB! it's half the reason I'm watching the show

Tormenk

2007-09-16, 09:08

Aaron asked just about everything to ask so I can't add much. :heh:

Here's to hoping something that would best SLB in terms of awesomeness, be it from Vivio or Nanoha from Blaster mode Raging Heart. :D

And here's to the place full of lights and to the glass of great caramel milk in the sky..

:D:heh:

Deathkillz

2007-09-16, 09:10

please give us a SLB! it's half the reason I'm watching the show
And vivio will respond with her "kamehameha wave" ;)

Hopefully it will be a clean fight with no interruptions...but i feel that multiple cut scenes will just destroy the flow *sigh*

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 09:11

So, what are the chances of Blaster Mode being that huge cannon Nanoha was shown to be wielding in the A's to StrikerS manga chapter?

I know chances are low considering how they're hyping up this Blaster Mode (( with multiple releases to boot )), but since one good aspect of StrikerS is foreshadowing (( minus Hayate's foreshadowing that went nowhere )), who knows?

And considering the properties of SLB, shouldn't something like that be almost unusable or weak under AMF, considering that it collects energy from the surroundings while AMF breaks magic fusion unless highly concentrated.

Then again, I honestly hope that Vivio's Barrier is something that even Blaster cannot penetrate, or at least it won't be a one-hit-win. At least, I want to see Hayate getting her shot as well at Vivio which won't happen unless they go 'outside'. :p

rtwesen

2007-09-16, 09:15

And vivio will respond with her "kamehameha wave" ;)

Hopefully it will be a clean fight with no interruptions...but i feel that multiple cut scenes will just destroy the flow *sigh*

someone who stays standing after taking a SLB? I'm all for that

after all, we might see something even bigger :D

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-16, 09:15

About time for the final match.:)

... I guess.

Any ideas for possible changes in RH's appearance in full power Blaster form?

I say the tip of the spear opens up side ways into two parts.

Why? Because it's the vision I see in the smoke from smoking crack at the moment... :eyespin:

Will Hayate at least get a shot out?:heh: Unison?!:upset:

And do what :heh: ? All the action is happening inside :heh:

Unless she somehow needs Rein to nuke the skies clean....

Hayate: "I WILL NOT BE SHAFTED ANYMORE!!! EQUALITY FOR BRUNETTES!! RAGNAROK BREAKER!!!!!"

Will the fleet at least reach?:heh:

"Well there's your problem..."

"Alright, who's been eating around the engines again :mad: ?!"

What'll happen to Signum, Zest and Agito's side of the story?

"Take her in"

"I refuse"

"Take her in"

"Not interested"

*silence...*

"Take her in... Please?"

"...No."

Will we see Arc-en-Ciel again?

Chrono: "Oh right, now I remember what we forgot to bring..."

Will Vivio live?

"Where do you want this child-size cof-"

"Shhh! Not now! Around the back..."

Will Fate rush back to the Cradle's site? (highly unlikely, though...)

Acous: "Schach, Fate! You two go ahead! I'll watch over these 4 attractive and restrained ladies..."

Will they show what Relics REALLY are now?

...Nah.

The chances of seeing Starlight/Ragnarok Breaker?

Nanoha: "Starlight...!"

Vivio: "Too slow."

Will Chrono spend the entire episode sitting down?:heh:

"Shouldn't we help them?"

"Relax, we still got about an hour..."

Is Nanoha not really a full human?:eek:

Nanoha's human, I can see it in the crack smoke...

Quattro?

:D

Tormenk

2007-09-16, 09:23

Borrowed from the quotes thread:

"It's alright if I'm the devil... I'll just use my hellish ways to get you to listen!"

Wonder if Nanoha will get around to pulling that on Vivio..hopefully :D

Quattro's still hanging around, wonder what will she bring to the on going fight...and who will be the one to bring her down..or not?

krisslanza

2007-09-16, 09:38

*Rocks back and forth in ball*
Only one more episode after this, only one more episode... @_@

Darco_emp

2007-09-16, 10:21

SLB RB SLB

If tradition holds then this will be the final battle, I demand we see Nanoha's SLB and Hayate's RB.

now runs back to report writing

equinoxcluster

2007-09-16, 10:55

Here's what I'm hoping will happen:

Nanoha is breaking through Vivio's barrier with Raging Heart in full blaster mode, putting a ton of strain on her body, and just as she thinks she won't make it.... Fate appears!

Nanoha: Fate-chan! What're you doing?!
Fate: *smiles* I'm her mama too, remember?
Nanoha: *shiny eyes*
Fate: Let's do this!
Nanoha: Yeah! *determined look*

Nanoha and Fate break through Vivio's barrier and save her. Yay!
~The end

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 10:57

Fate stated that if she goes Sonic and Riot, she'll pretty much exhaust herself beyond assisting anyone else further considering how much strain Overdrive/Limit Break puts on her.

Then again, coughzafiracoughvicecough.

FlareKnight

2007-09-16, 10:58

Well we can only wonder if Chrono is going to get up. After all even Zafira went out there and got something to do. But with things winding down is there anyone for Chrono to fight anyways? We'll be lucky if the fleet arives in time to go "oooh nice light show". Maybe he should've just stuck with hanging at Carim's place. At least he got appearances that way.

Do think a SLB is going to arrive for sure. Hayate is on a bit less certain grounds considering she's barely done anything so far. Should at least have some good Nanoha fighting and we'll no doubt get to see what she's got.

equinoxcluster

2007-09-16, 10:59

I wonder if Vivio's saved....will she stay a teenager or go back to a child? ...OR will she become a 300 year old woman?!

aers

2007-09-16, 11:25

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5697/vlcsnap5670453zz7.png

See you next week.

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 11:28

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5697/vlcsnap5670453zz7.png

See you next week.

Peh! So she's saved.

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 11:29

HAYATE/REIN UNISON?!?!?!

FINALLY!!!!!!:D:D:D

Darco_emp

2007-09-16, 11:31

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 11:33

yay for Hayate in Unison, now if someone just load this on nico video.

flicking through caps here is an interesting one :D

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9936/up173408hc5.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=up173408hc5.jpg)

Raising Heart FUNNELS?!?!?! :twitch:

And here's some more:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189959965337.jpg

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 11:34

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9936/up173408hc5.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=up173408hc5.jpg)

I wonder what's the target...

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 11:35

Meh, unison Hayate was only natural. Nothing special there.

Funnels eh? :)

And WTF Zest.

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 11:36

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189959965337.jpg

Ah-ah, there he goes. Time for a grave.

aers

2007-09-16, 11:37

I wonder what's the target...

Quattro. (10 character post limit what)

Darco_emp

2007-09-16, 11:37

Vivio!!!!!!

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8458/up173443fi2.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=up173443fi2.jpg)

I want to watch this now, hell with my report...

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 11:38

Now that I look at that pic again... I thought it was Zest holding a weapon :heh:

Turns out it was Signum ITTOU RYOUDAN:eek:

Nanoha's first true protagonist kill?

equinoxcluster

2007-09-16, 11:42

Spoiler for Tagged:
Now that I look at that pic again... I thought it was Zest holding a weapon

Turns out it was Signum ITTOU RYOUDAN

Nanoha's first true protagonist kill?

Nah. He was already dead.

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 11:43

Vivio!!!!!!

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8458/up173443fi2.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=up173443fi2.jpg)

I want to watch this now, hell with my report...

Oh, great! (sarcasm).

princesa_Ameria

2007-09-16, 11:48

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/up173447.jpg

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 11:54

IT'S BEFRIENDING TIME!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189961490084.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189961513509.jpg

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 11:54

Question:

Is Quattro dead?
Is there a Cinque appearance?

Kha

2007-09-16, 11:55

yay for Hayate in Unison, now if someone just load this on nico video.

flicking through caps here is an interesting one :D

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9936/up173408hc5.th.jpg (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=up173408hc5.jpg)FUNNELS!!! If there's one more hidden by Nanoha's blinding light, that'll make 6! They are apparently trying to equate Nanoha to Amuro. :D

But this also harkens to that pic of Unlimited Lyrical Works... :uhoh:

And here's some more:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189959965337.jpgLOVELESS STRIKES! :D

Vivio!!!!!!

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/8458/up173443fi2.th.jpg (http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=up173443fi2.jpg)

I want to watch this now, hell with my report...USOOOOOOOOOOOOODAAAAAAAAAAA!!! :eek::eek::eek:

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/up173447.jpgEh? What happened to Signum's FIRST BLOOD? :upset:

So does Nanoha blow up the ship? :upset::upset: And what did those pink balls she has been leaving behind do?

holybell84

2007-09-16, 11:55

Signum looks better with her hair down, so did she slash Zest b4 or after the cradling screenshot?

FlameSparkZ

2007-09-16, 12:00

Woah! Blaster owns!
Who would have thought that it would be like this? :heh:

And Zest is going to die...well, it had to happen sooner or later.

Signum with her hair loose...:eek:

Deathkillz

2007-09-16, 12:01

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/up173447.jpg
Hair down = FULL WINZZZZ! :D

(and why didnt vivio get befriended :eyebrow:)

Rava

2007-09-16, 12:01

Wow, is that 5 Starlight Breakers at the same time?

FlameSparkZ

2007-09-16, 12:03

Wow, is that 5 Starlight Breakers at the same time?

Looks like it :heh:

FRS

2007-09-16, 12:05

Signum looks better with her hair down,
I concur, too bad it's the serie's end.

iamandragon

2007-09-16, 12:18

please give us a SLB! it's half the reason I'm watching the show

Reminds me of a certain crazy person who talked about wanting to be hit by SLB a month ago...

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 12:23

IS THIS FOR REAL?!?!?!?!

TENGOTSUKU DRILL NANO DESU!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189963248198.jpg

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 12:26

TENGOTSUKU DRILL NANO DESU!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189963248198.jpg

*sweatdrop*

First Ginga, now this... Might as well give Nanoha twin-drills.

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 12:29

More Nanoha Funnels:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189963592910.jpg

Midonin

2007-09-16, 12:30

IS THIS FOR REAL?!?!?!?!

TENGOTSUKU DRILL NANO DESU!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189963248198.jpg
It's the drill that will pierce the heavens!

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 12:31

More Nanoha Funnels:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189963592910.jpg

I can almost imagine what she's saying.

Kha

2007-09-16, 12:31

IS THIS FOR REAL?!?!?!?!

TENGOTSUKU DRILL NANO DESU!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189963248198.jpgGIGANT! RATAKEN! DORIRUUU! BUREKAAAAA!

More Nanoha Funnels:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189963592910.jpgAs this is how you use your power, no wonder you hurt those you don't intend to!

:D

Deathkillz

2007-09-16, 12:33

part 1 ~

Vita manages to get to the engine room but from the looks of it she isnt feeling well at all, she attempts to finish things by using her limit breaker but the barrier on the power generator wont be taken down so easily - to make things worse, vita is then attacked by the security defense.

Rein hitches a ride on the rofl chopter and is being flown to Hayate.

Nanoha is fighting Vivio but she is proving to be too soft on the enemy, she tries to bond her down but that doesnt work - She later uses a "caging" attack which seems to be holding vivio, but it too was soon smashed.

Quattro is still being a bitch...

Meanwhile outside caro is taking care of the unconcious lulu flying on fried, They are attacked but garyuu fights back, Erio soon joins him in fending the beetles back.

And moving onto Signum and zest ~ Signum tells zest that he doesnt need to worry about lutecia and the Dr has been captured, Zest is releaved and said that there was only one thing left to do...They both begin to fight and Zest's weapon gets cut, nonetheless he carries on attempting to use his fist but is eventually killed by signum - agito is crying her eyes out as expected...

Vita launches her final attack, but its no use. Eisen smashes and she falls from the sky as she loses all strength, she then apologizes to everyone. But befor she plunges headfirst hayate catches her. It seems that the final attack wasnt in vain after all as Hayate calls her a baka for apologizing. The drill bit from eisen has penetrated the barrier and it soon shattered causing a mass of evergy to be released and a loud BANG!

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 12:34

LOL CHAOS.

I honestly cannot believe how much canon hates you. :p

You know the talk about Garyuu and Erio not possibly getting to the point where they can like fight and trust each other's back? Well, there you have it in this episode. Garyuu + Erio tag-team vs Jiraiohs. They're already friends! :p

And no offense to Nanoha, since the drama was okay, but seriously... using SLB for THAT bloody purpose!? You don't even know if SLB can remove the Relic out of her body! God. I don't know if that was idiotic or what. And besides, MAGIC DAMAGE KNOCK DOWN my ass. A child falling into a crater from that height heads down can kill her. GOD.

And RIP Zest. Not completely Qui-Gon, but I think Signum could tell that he was really doing one last stand to die the way a Knight should.

So, not only is bug-boy and thunder-boy friends, Vivio's safe. LOL.

Overall so-so episode. The drama was nice, but the SLB at the end was LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Felt very fanservice-tastic.

krisslanza

2007-09-16, 12:35

Signum looks so sexy with her hair down :love: *Drools*

Nvis

2007-09-16, 12:37

Woah, guys calm down...

iamandragon

2007-09-16, 12:42

And no offense to Nanoha, since the drama was okay, but seriously... using SLB for THAT bloody purpose!? You don't even know if SLB can remove the Relic out of her body! God. I don't know if that was idiotic or what. And besides, MAGIC DAMAGE KNOCK DOWN my ass. A child falling into a crater from that height heads down can kill her. GOD.

Well SLB is made for befriending people, so why not use it? (joke)

(get back on topic) 660's body is just as though as it is. Remember two episodes ago when Nanoha first reached 660? Quartto told us that 660's body is tough to the point that a direct hit from a beam cannon cannot harm her, so simply falling down from the sky won't even leave a scratch, just a few dirts.

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 12:44

Well SLB is made for befriending people, so why not use it? (joke)

(get back on topic) 660's body is just as though as it is. Remember two episodes ago when Nanoha first reached 660? Quartto told us that 660's body is tough to the point that a direct hit from a beam cannon cannot harm her, so simply falling down from the sky won't even leave a scratch, just a few dirts.

But that was due to the l33t Rainbow Powers, right? Besides, even if Quattro said so, for Nanoha to actually go with it with one full burst, rather than actually you know, take it step by step to disable her...

I wonder if there was ever someone who died from the pain inflicted by SLB...

Thisguy

2007-09-16, 12:44

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 12:46

At the end of episode, Forwards go in to rescue these who still inside Cradle.
and...
Double Knuckle is incoming! Finally!!!1

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

MUST HAVE PICS NAO

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 12:47

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

MUST HAVE PICS NAO

NEXT EPISODE.

Ginga gave her G-Stone Device Jewel to Subaru at the end of the episode, and they're right now on-route via copter to the Cradle, where Nanoha and Hayate's flight magic has literally been disabled.

And there CAN ONLY BE ONE REASON FOR THAT. Else, it's totally meaningless.

Heck, we'll probably see bike-shooting from Teana as well since Vice's bike is there.

Speaking of which, have we even seen FORM 3 of Cross Mirage?

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 12:52

Nina.Wolken

2007-09-16, 12:53

I almost cried during this ep...

Hayate who finally rescues Vita, in Unison moreover... it was just fabulous.
But... when she reachs the throne, where is Vita? Does she abandon her somewhere in the Yurikago? :uhoh:

Kha

2007-09-16, 12:55

NEXT EPISODE.

Ginga gave her G-Stone Device Jewel to Subaru at the end of the episode, and they're right now on-route via copter to the Cradle, where Nanoha and Hayate's flight magic has literally been disabled.

And there CAN ONLY BE ONE REASON FOR THAT. Else, it's totally meaningless.

Heck, we'll probably see bike-shooting from Teana as well since Vice's bike is there.

Speaking of which, have we even seen FORM 3 of Cross Mirage?

Damn... at least, there's still the possibility of THAT happening... :eek:At first I thought you guys meant the Forwards getting some action, or Subaru doing Divine Busting Burst Spinning PAAAAANCH or Hell & Heaven, or Teana doing DMC, but now I've no idea what Lowe is hinting, either that or I completely missed the original message. :heh:

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 12:56

And from the preview, looks like we'll most likely get to see Unison Signum-Agito, since Agito was shown to be inside the Unison Realm looking at the sky.

And if I don't see Hayate together in that preview shot of Nanoha in her BJ... :(

octoberasian

2007-09-16, 12:57

All I can say is this: (more thoughts to come in a bit)

Quattro got OWNED!

Er... befriended!

Dream_Traveller

2007-09-16, 12:57

A good episode, but a few questions:

1) Is Quattro dead, or simply (somehow) just knocked out despite the sheer power of that blast?

2) SLB + 6 funnels on Vivio? Ain't that a tad...well...much? I was actually shocked that she survived that.

3) Again, and asked by serenade in a way- where is Cinque? Was it the "fine idea" of the developers to have her around for two eps, with the possibility of her doing something more, then just tossing her character aside soon after?

4) And this is in reference to the next ep...Agito's fused again, and...just what is she doing? Odd, I know, but still...(Never mind, answered, most likely, by Gale.)

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 12:58

At first I thought you guys meant the Forwards getting some action, or Subaru doing Divine Busting Burst Spinning PAAAAANCH or Hell & Heaven, or Teana doing DMC, but now I've no idea what Lowe is hinting, either that or I completely missed the original message. :heh:

GADGET TOOL!!!!

:cool::D:D:D

Kha

2007-09-16, 13:00

GADGET TOOL!!!!

:cool::D:D:DAh k. :D

Which reminds me: If only Subaru pulled a Falcon PAAAAANCH on Ginga... :uhoh: :heh:

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 13:01

Ah k. :D

Which reminds me: If only Subaru pulled a Falcon PAAAAANCH on Ginga... :uhoh: :heh:

Would've been more embarassing if MAAHA KARIBAA had done it :heh::uhoh::uhoh:

Kha

2007-09-16, 13:03

Would've been more embarassing if MAAHA KARIBAA had done it :heh::uhoh::uhoh::eek:

OH YEAH! 0_0 If Ginga didn't block it... :D

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 13:03

:eek: (!)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/USSKenji64296/1189965604292.jpg

princesa_Ameria

2007-09-16, 13:03

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Nightengale

2007-09-16, 13:06

1) Is Quattro dead, or simply (somehow) just knocked out despite the sheer power of that blast?

2) SLB + 6 funnels on Vivio? Ain't that a tad...well...much? I was actually shocked that she survived that.

3) Again, and asked by serenade in a way- where is Cinque? Was it the "fine idea" of the developers to have her around for two eps, with the possibility of her doing something more, then just tossing her character aside soon after?

1. Well, unlike with Vivio, Nanoha never said anything about JUST magic damage knockdown, so who knows? Regardless, the real question will be if they'd bother to recover her since her location seems pretty far off.

2. MAGIC DAMAGE KNOCKDOWN. Take for what you will. Honestly, looking at that huge crater... LOL.

3. Where is she? Either still afloat and going to get arrested while recovering, or she's the Soujiro Seta of the Numbers, the last wanderer and the last carrier of the spawn.

Anyway, there's nothing much to really look forward to now. The only thing plot-worthy now is if there's ANYTHING Acous had seen in Uno's memories that we don't know of.

octoberasian

2007-09-16, 13:07

Signum looks so sexy with her hair down :love: *Drools*
AGREED!

And, she should keep that hair down! :love::love::love:

Thisguy

2007-09-16, 13:07

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6735/prevdh0.th.png (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prevdh0.png)
She wears her Exceed BJ at what appears to be RF6 graduation ceremony, for some reason...
Oh god, no please, Nanoha-san... please not that.

Nanoha: Now, here's the graduation examination.... defeat me, at fullpower.

*Life expectancy of Forward personnels goes down by order of decades*

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 13:07

:eek:

OH YEAH! 0_0 If Ginga didn't block it... :D

:D:D:D:D

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot015.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot016.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot017.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot018.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot019.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot020.jpg

... And this is why we love Vita-chan :D:D:D TOPPA!!!!

Kha

2007-09-16, 13:09

:eek: (!)

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:D
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7Arcs loves Super Robot Gurren Lagann War fans like us. :D:D:D

Let us assume that ANYONE can make a drill with Kingly (;) :D) spirit alone! :D

USCPharmacist

2007-09-16, 13:10

I have turned off my brain long ago, when I knew that StrikeS was practicing Shark Jumping-Fu. So I only watch the show for cool fights. lesbo power, and Lol. Because of these I gave this episode a 10 without watching the sub, cuz it delievers!!!

BTW I only say lesbo power and not hot chicks because ALL LESBIANS IN ANIME ARE "HAWT", otherwise they wouldn't be lesbians.....

Deathkillz

2007-09-16, 13:11

Part 2 ~
The whole place is being brought down due to the explosion but quattro still hasnt given up yet...that was until she notices a small glowing pink ball behind her, then the confirmation comes from raising heart as she says "wide area search complete" (and you all know what that means :p Nanoha is about to get her sweet revenge! ~ divine buster x 5 onto quattro's ass incoming!

At the same time she was defeated all the drones and lutecia's summons stop moving.

Vivio snaps out of her daze but still isnt in full control of her body, she is afraid and tells nanoha to stay away. *cue in emotional scene where vivio says that she is a fake and unwanted* ~ nanoha tells her that she has it all wrong, being fake and real has nothing to do with anything. With some encouragement she manages to get vivio to accept herself (teary scene ;___; ).

Well so in order to return vivio back to normal we see SLB being used...and yep it is retarded XD anyways the relic inside vivio was crushed and she returns to her loli form. nanoha is over come with tears where she sees vivio trying to be strong and rushes over to give her a hug (perhaps by the flashback she realised that she was wrong to tell vivio to be stronger when she fell over a while back).

Hayate soon joins them but then the anti magic field kicks in...nanoha and hayate loses their ability to fly.

Meanwhile, some last words from Zest to Agito (more crying ;___; )

Outside, the forwards are moving out to go save the aces, ginga gives subaru her knuckle and off we go in the roflchopter :3

Preview title:
The promised sky

Kha

2007-09-16, 13:15

In the end... WHERE THE HELL IS THE FLEET?! :eyebrow:

octoberasian

2007-09-16, 13:15

I think the best part in all this would definitely be seeing Quattro's reaction after seeing this supposedly harmless ball of light hover next to her.

Then... Quattro recalls back to Ep.1's Divine Buster that help Nanoha and Subaru escape the Airport.

Flash forward to the future... Quattro is now panicking! MUWAHAHA!

Time to be befriended in the most painful way.

Just seeing Nanoha charge up Divine Buster with (I think) 4 or 5 cartridges (!!! Overkill, I think not) just brought a smile, a chuckle and a tear to my eye.

The most emotional part was seeing Vita almost get herself killed trying to break the barrier in the engine room. Luckily Unison Hayate rescued her before she fell to her death. I was going: "Vita! Nooooooooooooo!" the whole time.

Then, seeing Signum take out Zest was pretty sad. I didn't want to see him go, he turned out to be an honorable person towards the end.

I think there is one last task before graduation (or something) as we might see dual-knuckle Subaru (maybe!).

Overall, a pretty good episode.

Deathkillz

2007-09-16, 13:17

In the end... WHERE THE HELL IS THE FLEET?! :eyebrow:
well...we do see chrono yawning :rolleyes:

like always they will get there and say "party over already?" :twitch:

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 13:17

In the end... WHERE THE HELL IS THE FLEET?! :eyebrow:

It's taking its sweet time~ ;)

The funny thing was that the one shot of Chrono had him looking all serious and tense.

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-16, 13:22

LOL CHAOS.

I honestly cannot believe how much canon hates you. :p

Dude, Canon has hated me ever since episode 7 :p

It's all in the name :p

You know the talk about Garyuu and Erio not possibly getting to the point where they can like fight and trust each other's back? Well, there you have it in this episode. Garyuu + Erio tag-team vs Jiraiohs. They're already friends! :p

You know what this means ;)

*One hour later*

Lutecia: "Erio-kun, D-Dame..."

And no offense to Nanoha, since the drama was okay, but seriously... using SLB for THAT bloody purpose!? You don't even know if SLB can remove the Relic out of her body! God. I don't know if that was idiotic or what. And besides, MAGIC DAMAGE KNOCK DOWN my ass. A child falling into a crater from that height heads down can kill her. GOD.

It's bloody idiotic... When it's anything about Vivio, it's always idiotical...

And RIP Zest. Not completely Qui-Gon, but I think Signum could tell that he was really doing one last stand to die the way a Knight should.

And I was worried he was going to retire to his country house :p

So, not only is bug-boy and thunder-boy friends, Vivio's safe. LOL.

Overall so-so episode. The drama was nice, but the SLB at the end was LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Felt very fanservice-tastic.

... Damn :rolleyes:

Thisguy

2007-09-16, 13:23

In the end... WHERE THE HELL IS THE FLEET?! :eyebrow:Having lost it's master and reactor, Cradle is in automated defence mode, so I'd say Cradle has to be destroyed anyway.
Probably the Fleets will have it's showtime once Forwards managed to rescue those who are inside, to completely turn that thing into rubble.

princesa_Ameria

2007-09-16, 13:24

selkirk

2007-09-16, 13:24

あたしの大事なヴィヴィオだよ！あたしがヴィヴィオの本当のママじゃないけど、だから本当のママになっていけるように努力する。
だから生きちゃいけない子だなんて・・・言わないで！本当の気持ち、ママに教えて！
You are my precious Vivio! I may not be your real mama, but I'm giving it my all to be like a real mother to you! So... please... don't say that you can't be allowed to live! Tell me, let me know your true feelings!

私は・・・私は・・・なのはママのことは・・・大好き
ママとずっと一緒にいたい
I...
I...Nanoha-mama... I... love you. I want to be with you forever!

ママ
助けて
Mama...
save me.

助けるよ
I'll save you,

いつだて、どんなときだって！
Any time, no matter when!

**Form array**

**Charge**

「RESTRICT LOCK」

ヴィヴィオ
ちょっとだけ
痛いの我慢できる？
Vivio, just for a bit, can you stand the pain?

うん
Yes.

防御脱いで
魔力ダメージでノックダウン
Remove the barrier, and knock down with magic damage.

いけるね、レイジングハート
Raising Heart, we can do this, right?

「CLEAR　TO　GO」

全力・・・全開！
Full　power!

スターライト・・・・・ブレいカー！!
Starlight...... BREAKER!!

ブレイク・・・シュート！！！
Break.... SHOOT!!!

**BOOOM** x 5

ヴィヴィオ・・・
ヴィヴィオ！
Vivio...
Vivio!

来ないで
ひとりで・・・出るよ。
強くなるって・・・約束しただから
No, don't come. I'll get out... by my own strength.
Since I promised... that I would become strong.

Huh... what a way to save someone :p.

FlameSparkZ

2007-09-16, 13:25

At the end of episode, Forwards go in to rescue these who still inside Cradle.
and...
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Double Knuckle is incoming! Finally!!!1

Heh, I guess we'll be seeing a Heaven & Hell :heh:

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Wow...that was unexpected :heh:

Kha

2007-09-16, 13:26

You know what this means ;)

*One hour later*

Lutecia: "Erio-kun, D-Dame..."More like...

Caro: Kore, your reward. :)
Lute: A-ano... Please be gentle with it...

...
...
...

Hey what were you thinking? Caro and Lute just gave him his just desserts, deshou? :D... ... :heh:

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 13:26

princesa_Ameria

2007-09-16, 13:29

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Nvis

2007-09-16, 13:30

No one can beat Nanoha now. She deserves to rule the world(she even de-throned the 'King').
If there's a S4, I wonder if Dark Nanoha will appear......

Kha

2007-09-16, 13:32

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OK so Gray wasn't the one to give my OC the plans for hi-Nu... :heh: This just WTF proves in a roundabout sense that Funnels/Dragoons can exist, and easily too, without need to nerf much. 0_0
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Nvis

2007-09-16, 13:32

FIN FUNNEL SHIELD?!

Nanoha really is a Hi-NU :eek:

That's also similar to GSD's Akatsuki.

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-16, 13:33

In the end... WHERE THE HELL IS THE FLEET?! :eyebrow:

"Leave anything for us?"

"Bodies..."

well...we do see chrono yawning :rolleyes:

like always they will get there and say "party over already?" :twitch:

To them, it's like watching a B-grade action film :p

It's taking its sweet time~ ;)

The funny thing was that the one shot of Chrono had him looking all serious and tense.

Did he stood up? :heh:

Having lost it's master and reactor, Cradle is in automated defence mode, so I'd say Cradle has to be destroyed anyway.
Probably the Fleets will have it's showtime once Forwards managed to rescue those who are inside, to completely turn that thing into rubble.

"And you wonder why some people didn't even know about Velka..."

"The new generations have no respect for history..."

TAM-Lisa

2007-09-16, 13:36

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Signum with her hair down is so great :D

princesa_Ameria

2007-09-16, 13:37

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Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-16, 13:38

More like...

Caro: Kore, your reward. :)
Lute: A-ano... Please be gentle with it...

...
...
...

Hey what were you thinking? Caro and Lute just gave him his just desserts, deshou? :D... ... :heh:

I'll think whatever the hell I wanna think :p ! You're not the boss of me!

No one can beat Nanoha now. She deserves to rule the world(she even de-throned the 'King').
If there's a S4, I wonder if Dark Nanoha will appear......

I don't know... It sounded like a cheap fight... Especially at the end.

FlareKnight

2007-09-16, 13:39

Sadly I don't think Chrono was even standing up. They just show the fleet floating around (I'm not sure they are even moving) and we get somewhat of a serious face from Chrono. Not even a word....

On the positive side Caro is flying to the scene with Voltaire with Erio on Fried. That guy really is the summoning tamer or something he makes buddies with them pretty easily. Guess the only positive is that I didn't see Lutecia with Caro so that might mean.....

Vita rocks :). Though poor Eisen getting busted up earlier by Zest and this time he got completely shattered. Good on Vita though with all those injuries pulling out all the stops to bust up that thing into bits. Of course Hayate shows up (no unison scene she just shows up) to grab onto her.

Thisguy

2007-09-16, 13:39

Nanoha really is a Hi-NU :eek:Incidentally, someone has just added Master-Grade Hi-NU ganpla to niconico market... :heh::heh:

So currently, we have Daizengar, Vysaga and Ashsaber, and we're going to see Perfected GGG in next episode? :heh:

TAM-Lisa

2007-09-16, 13:43

Fabien

2007-09-16, 13:51

Well we can only wonder if Chrono is going to get up. [...]Maybe he should've just stuck with hanging at Carim's place. At least he got appearances that way.

Same goes for Hayate: since Schach went to battle, Hayate should have stayed with Carim, bringing her a cup of tea -- at least she'd have done something.
Or, she could have come at my place: the kettle is boiling, and right now I have to get out of my chair and prepare my tea myself :-/

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 13:55

I don't know... It sounded like a cheap fight... Especially at the end.

Well, the fight itself was pretty QUALITY... It really felt like they were trying to demean the whole thing, with Nanoha clearly holding back on everything except the SLB.

The SLB itself was mildly retarded. Unlike A's, there was no 'someone' telling her that it might work to save Vivio, she just did so on a whim, and by pure luck, worked in more ways than one. I mean, it's not really bad... but it felt really LOL. I had to shut off ALL my brain functions to watch that.

Keroko

2007-09-16, 14:00

Well, the fight itself was pretty QUALITY... It really felt like they were trying to demean the whole thing, with Nanoha clearly holding back on everything except the SLB.

The SLB itself was mildly retarded. Unlike A's, there was no 'someone' telling her that it might work to save Vivio, she just did so on a whim, and by pure luck, worked in more ways than one. I mean, it's not really bad... but it felt really LOL. I had to shut off ALL my brain functions to watch that.

Discounting any technobable that Nanoha would be more versed in then us viewers (Nanoha is far past the stage where people need to tell her how magic works), Nanoha's possible train of thought might have been along the lines of: 'If it worked on Hayate, it'll work on Vivio.'

princesa_Ameria

2007-09-16, 14:02

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Nightengale

2007-09-16, 14:04

Discounting any technobable that Nanoha would be more versed in then us viewers (Nanoha is far past the stage where people need to tell her how magic works), Nanoha's possible train of thought might have been along the lines of: 'If it worked on Hayate, it'll work on Vivio.'

If they're aware of Relic's nature or at least a respective degree of its properties, then yeah, maybe.

But Nanoha just learned just the function of a Relic less than an hour ago, and it's not like TSAB's Science Department really understood how they worked either unless SS03 or SS04 is going to show them learning that shooting a huge stream of magical beams at a Relic will somehow remove it from its container safely before it shatters.

What if the Relic blows up inside Vivio from the overburst of magical energy or something? It is entirely possible.

If Acous somehow pops up on a screen telling that doing so can save her after seeing Uno's memories or something, then it's not so stupid anymore at least. But at that situation, she was dealing with an unknown X-factor, and what did she do?

She pretty much kicked caution to the curb.

Keroko

2007-09-16, 14:12

If they're aware of Relic's nature or at least a respective degree of its properties, then yeah, maybe.

But Nanoha just learned just the function of a Relic less than an hour ago, and it's not like TSAB's Science Department really understood how they worked either unless SS03 or SS04 is going to show them learning that shooting a huge stream of magical beams at a Relic will somehow remove it from its container safely before it shatters.

What if the Relic blows up inside Vivio from the overburst of magical energy or something? It was entirely possible.

One could say that Relics are awefully similar to Jewel Seeds in the aspect that was shown to Nanoha, in which case Nanoha already had field experience in dealing wih the problem.

FlameSparkZ

2007-09-16, 14:15

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 14:18

One could say that Relics are awefully similar to Jewel Seeds in the aspect that was shown to Nanoha, in which case Nanoha already had field experience in dealing wih the problem.

Except that they've pretty much stated that Relic is pretty unorthodox as far as crystallized energies go, and that little is properly known about it.

So it cannot be simply taken as just a similar kind to Jewel Seed either.

Don't tell me Jail is gonna go "I'm sorry"
That'd be so off-character :frustrated:

No. Basically, that place was going to blow up courtesy of Quattro, and Fate ask Jail to stop it, but he goes "have you forgotten? So long as blah blah blah, my copy will just blah blah blah."

So yeah, not off-character. Still the ever smug and confident bastard. Of course, he was still confident of his "insurance" then, which is now looking to be a little bleak unless Cinque had ran off or something.

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2007-09-16, 14:23

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Keroko

2007-09-16, 14:25

Except that they've pretty much stated that Relic is pretty unorthodox as far as crystallized energies go, and that little is properly known about it.

So it cannot be simply taken as just a similar kind to Jewel Seed either.

Obviously Nanoha thought otherwise. :heh:

Though to use a more accurate comparison, this scenario looks awefully similar to how Hayate was saved in A's, and a Relic's power pales in comparison to that.

FlameSparkZ

2007-09-16, 14:33

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 14:34

Deathkillz

2007-09-16, 14:40

Quattro had it coming to her so no sympathy here ~ she should have thought about the consequences before mind haxxing vivio :rolleyes:

Dark Wing

2007-09-16, 14:45

She pretty much kicked caution to the curb.

Thats our Nanoha for yae...:heh:

I enjoyed watching Nanoha blow Quattro to kingdom come and YAY! Vivio has now been officially befirend into Nanoha's family. :D

I'll comment more when I have time...got to go to work...:upset:

princesa_Ameria

2007-09-16, 14:56

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2007-09-16, 14:58

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2007-09-16, 15:14

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Haruka Tenoh

2007-09-16, 15:39

amazing... the whole Vivio/Nanoha scene...

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2007-09-16, 15:57

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johnjefferson3

2007-09-16, 16:05

Flar

2007-09-16, 16:07

Quattro got sniped, Nanoha style :DVice should really learn from her. I mean, who needs to be careful about aiming when you can Divine Buster or SLB the heck out of the whole district in magical damage mode? It's safe for children too :D

your expections are then just not realistic then, i mean this is a nanoha show!!!!!Yes, that's why some of us had high expectations.

Shadow Angel

2007-09-16, 16:21

I thought Nanoha was gonna go into her Blast Mode this eppy guess I was wrong on that.

EnigmaticThief

2007-09-16, 16:38

This episode was pretty entertaining, and we'll have to see what's going on with the Cradle next episode.

The Good
+Signum with her hair down.
+Hayate finally combining with Rein Zwei
+Vita's Giga Goldion Drill Hammer Breaker!
+Fin Funnels
+Comuppence for Quattro

The Bad
-Massive QUALITY in Zest's short duel with Signum.
-Nanoha using the by-now typical befriending method to save Vivio.
-Why did Quattro briefly have a flashback about the prologue in Ep. 1? Was she there?

Sakuya

2007-09-16, 16:41

This isn't the last episode why does the screencaps makes me believe everything will be all right at the end of this episode? Then what will episode 26 be? :confused:

Keroko

2007-09-16, 16:44

This isn't the last episode why does the screencaps makes me believe everything will be all right at the end of this episode? Then what will episode 26 be? :confused:

In the end of the episode, the cradle has a final card up its sleeve ans screws up the casts magic to boot. It's like Thunderbirds. As soon as things look alright, everything starts to go wrong again.

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 16:46

-Why did Quattro briefly have a flashback about the prologue in Ep. 1? Was she there?

It's possible.

FlameSparkZ

2007-09-16, 16:51

iamandragon

2007-09-16, 17:02

Except that they've pretty much stated that Relic is pretty unorthodox as far as crystallized energies go, and that little is properly known about it.

So it cannot be simply taken as just a similar kind to Jewel Seed either.

You're right, it cannot. However just the fact that a relic is a crystalized energy means SLB will take effect.

I remember when reading the Nanoha vs Fate fight in one of the novels(dunno if it's official), it says SLB does not effact Physical body much. Instead, it is capable of draining one magical energy rapidly--that's how the defenseless Fate took SLB without dying. She just had her magical energy completely drained. If that novel is indeed official, using SLB on 660 to drain her relic is perhaps the right choice?

rtwesen

2007-09-16, 17:56

lol I'm satisfied. I asked for one SLB on the first page, and we get four

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 17:58

Watched the Quattro and Nanoha scene for myself.

Man, that really, REALLY had to hurt. Like Wow! BOOM!

I'm quite shocked at it. Hard to describe it...

Hmm... Now I'll wait for a better RAW. This episode doesn't warrant a hasty watch. It really only has Vivio vs. Nanoha, with little other parts added in.

Jail doesn't care if Uno, Sein, Sette, Tre, Schach, Acuos, and Fate dies with him.

Quattro-Wah~~ Somewhat pathetic. In the end, she was the type of person that liked seeing other people suffer, but in the end, has no real power and gets scared when there is danger. That's the main difference between Jail and Quattro, at least he fought and never got scared... She really must like Jail's dream, those were her last words before she fainted/died (whichever it was).

How did Fate pull up one of those keyboard things? I though only Uno or Quattro could do that. I'd like less haxx. There's been too much recently.
I assume Fate will stop the self-destruction and save them all... Peh!

Third time- Curse the Ginga haxx. Cursesssss.

Preview-Hai, hai... All's well, ends wells. Makes me wonder if there will be a fourth season, really. Wonder if Cinque will appear at all?

My guesses:

1. Gets captured because she's still in test tube (I don't want this)
2. Gone somewhere and ends up being the only one left to not be captured, and somehow brings about a 4th season.

princesa_Ameria

2007-09-16, 18:10

Episode 25 on YouTube [my user: "Yurilandia"] *-*

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-16, 18:17

this show was extremely beautiful, i was so excitied and happy!!!!!!

By the way who is the iodit that voted an 1 out 10 again for 2 epsiodes in a row, everyone who votes should vote this 10 for sure, if not then your expections are then just not realistic then, i mean this is a nanoha show!!!!!

Nah, our expectations are realistic, yours are just too low to go wrong.

This isn't the last episode why does the screencaps makes me believe everything will be all right at the end of this episode? Then what will episode 26 be? :confused:

By right, the last episode of any of the Nanoha season (Judging from the last two) is a 'peaceful' Epilogue... Doesn't seem to be the case for this though...

They probably spent too much time and very unnecessary stuff.

How did Fate pull up one of those keyboard things? I though only Uno or Quattro could do that. I'd like less haxx. There's been too much recently.
I assume Fate will stop the self-destruction and save them all... Peh!

I was under the impression that anybody could do it, like how everybody has their own person screens.

Fabien

2007-09-16, 18:29

Jail doesn't care if Uno, Sein, Sette, Tre, Schach, Acuos, and Fate dies with him.

Do you find that surprising?

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 18:36

Do you find that surprising?

Nope, not really. I just expected him to care more about losing all of his experiments.

asaqe

2007-09-16, 18:53

Darco_emp

2007-09-16, 19:06

Chances are, Cinque and maybe Quattro will come back with a vegence in the 4th season...while the rest of the Numbers (save due, since she is pretty much dead) eventually go under TSAB supervision as new agents...

Not Quattro hopefully, she has been getting on my nerves for more then half of the season, I think that physically configured SLB is rather fitting.

As Nvis suggested earlier Dark Nanoha will be good for 4th season, wither cloned or turning evil due to some event :heh: It sets then scene for Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Vivio :cool:.

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-16, 19:08

Chances are, Cinque and maybe Quattro will come back with a vegence in the 4th season...while the rest of the Numbers (save due, since she is pretty much dead) eventually go under TSAB supervision as new agents...

I'm not so sure if they'll get Quattro out in time...

As for Due, remember all the crap and abuse Ginga and Subaru took? Well what's a little stab to gut gonna do to her?

aroduc

2007-09-16, 19:17

Nanoha vs Vivio stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHM0B1df2hY

Though it did seem a lot shorter than 10 minutes when I was watching the episode. *shrug* Whatever.

rtwesen

2007-09-16, 19:36

i absolutely loved this episode

-the vivio standing up by herself scene was so good. I need the soundtrack!

-shooting at quattro through the ship is just damn funny, only nanoha'd do something like that

-they should zoom out a little with nanoha's SLB, can't see anything -_-

souljah

2007-09-16, 20:08

what was quattro saying during the battle of nanoha vs vivio

arkhangelsk

2007-09-16, 20:11

What if the Relic blows up inside Vivio from the overburst of magical energy or something? It is entirely possible.

Many others have said it before, but the basic method of sealing most Lost Logia seems to be to hit it with magic and degrade its function.

Aaron008R

2007-09-16, 20:12

Heeeh~...

Just watched the RAW... Well... Not exactly stellar... Though not a complete letdown either...

Just some things that I would like to note...

-Vita has a Limit Break... That means Signum has one too.:D

-Nanoha's fight... Some deliverance... At least that 6-cartridge Divine Buster and 5-point Starlight Breaker looked nice... And since when was she an expert in restrainment magic?:heh:

- Hayate... Got shafted again... Unison and fighting against a gazillion drones was there... but it was NOT shown... Only to arrive at the end of the fight to be knocked out of Unison and rendered flight-incapable by the UberH4XX AMF. They better give her AT LEAST ONE SHOT after she gets bailed out of the Cradle next ep!:frustrated:

- Signum vs. Zest... Was well animated but very short... It did look nice, though.

- Agito Unison with Signum to be seen next ep.:D Hopefully a Limit Break, too.

- Double Knuckle next ep!:D Here's for a double Vibration Shatter/Sentoukijin POWAH to save the two Aces stuck at the Cradle!:D

- Vivio's no longer mamamamamamama.

- I got a bit of a jolt at the Excelion Bits...:heh: (OC thread stuff)

All in all... I guess it might just do... At least there WERE versus fights.

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 20:15

Many others have said it before, but the basic method of sealing most Lost Logia seems to be to hit it with magic and degrade its function.

Well, I rest my case then since it's no longer that retarded.

Doesn't really change my overall opinion though even if that SLB was no longer stupid. Overall, it was pretty so-so of an episode.

Xellos-_^

2007-09-16, 20:24

i read through all 7 pages here and i haven't notice one Nanoha Strike Freedom joke. You guys are starting to lose it.

And as for the ep itself.

ALL HAIL THE WHITE DEVIL :bow::bow::bow::bow:

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8748/whitedevil02evilah7rp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

Skane

2007-09-16, 20:38

i read through all 7 pages here and i haven't notice one Nanoha Strike Freedom joke. You guys are starting to lose it.
~
Wrong generation. ;) You will notice that they all refer to it as "funnels", not "dragoons".

Cheers.

arkhangelsk

2007-09-16, 20:46

Well, I rest my case then since it's no longer that retarded.

Doesn't really change my overall opinion though even if that SLB was no longer stupid. Overall, it was pretty so-so of an episode.

Well, quite frankly, the concept that the Cradle suddenly emitting a stronger AMF after its reactor and commander is rendered inoperative is what's mindnumbingly stupid for me. It is as if they must have something for the Forwards to do!

Xellos-_^

2007-09-16, 20:48

Wrong generation. ;) You will notice that they all refer to it as "funnels", not "dragoons".

Cheers.

Funnels then. So where is the Hi Nu Nanoha joke :D

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 20:53

Well, quite frankly, the concept that the Cradle suddenly emitting a stronger AMF after its reactor and commander is rendered inoperative is what's mindnumbingly stupid for me. It is as if they must have something for the Forwards to do!

Well, true that. I've already shut down my brain by then (( during the SLB )), so maybe that eluded me, putting aside that there's a possibility that had the AMF been that strong from the very beginning, maybe they would actually lose.

Funnels then. So where is the Hi Nu Nanoha joke :D

Go reread this thread from the start or search Amuro.

Nvis

2007-09-16, 21:01

As Nvis suggested earlier Dark Nanoha will be good for 4th season, wither cloned or turning evil due to some event :heh: It sets then scene for Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Vivio :cool:.

You'd think that by now, all the scientists would want to have Nanoha as their specimen. Most likely an even better Artificial Mage than Zest/Fate. She's far too "strong". There's got to be something to explain how she's so powerful....

Or Nanoha/Fate becomes the new "Heads" of TSAB. Who knows how many times they've "saved the world".

Need Dark Nanoha now. :heh:

I don't understand why Vivio couldn't control herself after Quattro was taken down. I would be all :love: if she stayed in that form + sexy BJ

krisslanza

2007-09-16, 21:13

I have to say... That's quite a shot Nanoha did there against Quattro O_o
EDIT:
About the strengthened AMF. It could be linked to that self-destruct? Or is that Jail's lab? I wouldn't put it past an ancient warship to have failsafes in case you say... Blew out the reactor?

Rava

2007-09-16, 21:16

It's possible the AMF is stronger because it's sucking up as much magical energy is available to blow up...isn't it?

Nvis

2007-09-16, 21:19

Well no reactor/saint = no power == drop like a rock?
So what's powering the AMF?

And if Vita wasn't concerned about Nanoha saving strength, she could have taken out the reactor from where they entered in the beginning......

Fabien

2007-09-16, 21:39

Well no reactor/saint = no power == drop like a rock?
So what's powering the AMF?

AFAIK, the AMF was created by Jail. Maybe it wasn't at full force to allow Vivio to function properly; now that she's rendered useless, might as well set the AMF to "full force", in the hope of disabling those annoying TSAB mages.

krisslanza

2007-09-16, 21:41

Well we don't know what makes an AMF work. I'd have to imagine it's not something as simple as a generator apparently...

Fabien

2007-09-16, 21:48

There's got to be something to explain how [Nanoha]'s so powerful....

Training.
Fate has trained her sword skills everyday for ten years, so using a sword is natural for her.
Nanoha might have routinely launched a few Starlight Breaker a week for ten years, even with a few limiters on, so insanely powerful attacks have become natural for her.
Besides, if I remember correctly, the idea behind Starlight Breaker is to collect the magic that's available around you; so, using it might not mean you're insanely powerful yourself.

Fabien

2007-09-16, 21:50

Nope, not really. I just expected him to care more about losing all of his experiments.

Not really: he already has interesting results, and he can make new, better subjects easily.

Fabien

2007-09-16, 21:51

Well we don't know what makes an AMF work. I'd have to imagine it's not something as simple as a generator apparently...

It has to be simple enough to be put in each of those hundreds of drones.

Fabien

2007-09-16, 21:53

i read through all 7 pages here and i haven't notice one Nanoha Strike Freedom joke. You guys are starting to lose it.

Stupid Question of the Day: what would that joke be, or refer to?

LoweGear

2007-09-16, 22:16

Stupid Question of the Day: what would that joke be, or refer to?

The fact that Nanoha uses remote weapons, aka her Blaster Bits.

However, we refer to such as "Fin Funnels" after Amuro and the NU /Hi-NU Gundam (since Amuro is also known as "The White Devil" long before Nanoha). And the fact that those Blaster Bits can actually create a pink solid pyramid shield in the exact same manner (99% in fact) as Fin Funnels further reinforces that fact.

(Not to mention that in one of the Gundam Evolve clips, Amuro traps the mobile armor Alpha Aziel using those shields - and Nanoha does the exact same thing here :heh: ).

Of course, Nanoha's Blaster Bits can cast binds, and shoot Divine Busters and Starlight Breakers :uhoh::uhoh::uhoh:

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 22:34

You'd think that by now, all the scientists would want to have Nanoha as their specimen. Most likely an even better Artificial Mage than Zest/Fate. She's far too "strong". There's got to be something to explain how she's so powerful....

I don't understand why Vivio couldn't control herself after Quattro was taken down. I would be all :love: if she stayed in that form + sexy BJ

Well, Jail wants Fate ('s power).

EDIT:
About the strengthened AMF. It could be linked to that self-destruct? Or is that Jail's lab? I wouldn't put it past an ancient warship to have failsafes in case you say... Blew out the reactor?

I think only the lab is self-destructing.

Training.
Fate has trained her sword skills everyday for ten years, so using a sword is natural for her.
Nanoha might have routinely launched a few Starlight Breaker a week for ten years, even with a few limiters on, so insanely powerful attacks have become natural for her.
Besides, if I remember correctly, the idea behind Starlight Breaker is to collect the magic that's available around you; so, using it might not mean you're insanely powerful yourself.

That's why it's no fun. The protagonists are SO powerful that there isn't anyone that can defeat them. This season proves that a genius doctor and twelve cyborgs + a ship called "Cradle" + a whining clone couldn't even kill one of them. That's my only issue with having another season... Even if Jail escapes, how will he win...

Not really: he already has interesting results, and he can make new, better subjects easily.

But his clones don't (or, logically, shouldn't) have any recent memories like his fight with Fate.

Better subjects? Well, I'd first like to know why all twelve numbers freely obey him, unlike the brain-washed Ginga (if the writers make a stupid explanation, then...).

Plus, how do IS abilities get decided? Are they unique per person, or does Jail choose?

He also will lose his lab (along with his bedroom, kitchen, etc.) and every single body he has collected, including Lutecia's mom.

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 22:46

That's why it's no fun. The protagonists are SO powerful that there isn't anyone that can defeat them. This season proves that a genius doctor and twelve cyborgs + a ship called "Cradle" + a whining clone couldn't even kill one of them. That's my only issue with having another season... Even if Jail escapes, how will he win...

The problem isn't even Jail losing, it's how he lost. Aside from the Forwards to a certain extent, it was basically trump card + slam + win. Very very cheap victories. There wasn't any memorable fights or enemies that can really play the mano-o-mano game head on even AFTER Limit Break. Zest doesn't really count and in his condition, any Limit Break from the Aces can probably run his down instantly anyway.

Better subjects? Well, I'd first like to know why all twelve numbers freely obey him, unlike the brain-washed Ginga (if the writers make a stupid explanation, then...).

'Umi no Oya' aka non-literal birth father argument. Take that for what you will.

Plus, how do IS abilities get decided? Are they unique per person, or does Jail choose?

I think it's individual specific and Jail helps craft things that assist the IS better (( like Huge Cannon )) once the IS is formed, but...

DVD Booklets translation once the DVD comes out. :p

He also will lose his lab (along with his bedroom, kitchen, etc.) and every single body he has collected, including Lutecia's mom.

If his main body loses, he'll HAVE to start anew anyway since TSAB will take control of his base, and since he's pretty much killed his former benefactors, he'll be on his own + his cyborg mother unless he's got EXTRA insurance planned. (( Which Acous might've found out through Uno anyway ))

It seems that losing his years of collected effort isn't a problem at all for him, since he's got ALL the time in the world.

hound297

2007-09-16, 22:51

So sad for Jail... His big mistake was not to capture nanoha or hayate when they are much younger(lets say 12~15) and make an army of cyborgs base on them. You might be thinking that Jail does not know them but that may not be true because they (hayate and nanoha) had made quite a name for themselves in the events of A's . Plus, they are Fate's most precious friends and Jail surely knows about fate's existance and through investigating fate's life , he will come to know about Nanoha and Hayate.

I hope TSAB scienctist put Nanoha in a test tube. =)

Shadow Angel

2007-09-16, 22:54

I gotta say Nanoha's SLB shooting off 5 or six blasts at once was nice but abit overkill.

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 22:54

The problem isn't even Jail losing, it's how he lost. Aside from the Forwards to a certain extent, it was basically trump card + slam + win. Very very cheap victories. There wasn't any memorable fights or enemies that can really play the mano-o-mano game head on. Zest doesn't count.

Big agree there.

This was supposed to be the climax too.
Episode 17 was better since it wasn't so decided.

Come to think of it, ep. 16-17 is practically the opposite of the climax.

'Umi no Oya' aka non-literal birthfather argument. Take that for what you will.

That's all we got for now...

he'll be on his own + his cyborg mother unless he's got EXTRA insurance planned. (( Which Acous might've found out through Uno anyway ))

It seems that losing his years of collected effort isn't a problem at all for him, since he's got ALL the time in the world.

Mother?

Why was Uno unconscious anyways? Didn't she just get binded?

All the time, until the twelve are dead.

So sad for Jail... His big mistake was not to capture nanoha or hayate when they are much younger(lets say 12~15) and make an army of cyborgs base on them. You might be thinking that Jail does not know them but that may not be true because they (hayate and nanoha) had made quite a name for themselves in the events of A's . Plus, they are Fate's most precious friends and Jail surely knows about fate's existance and through investigating fate's life , he will come to know about Nanoha and Hayate.

The thing is, I bet the concept of Jail Scaglietti didn't even exist during the creation of A's. Plus, if he did that, there wouldn't be a thrid season. Ginga and Subaru would be dead too.

Aaron008R

2007-09-16, 22:58

Okay... Since I've got nothing better to do for the time being, I'll do a little more in-depth commentary...

Re: Nanoha vs. Vivio = Well animated, to say the least... But it really felt one-sided in Nanoha's favor once she got the bits out and lots of binds... Nanoha was apparently holding back... This really screams out the question on JUST HOW POWERFUL IS NANOHA?! Aside from that, Reinforce 1 seemed far more powerful as an endgame boss.

Re: Vita: She appeared to be the only one in apparent danger in the entire episode. (aside form Hayate, Nanoha and Vivio by the end of the episode) Her Limit Break was quite impressive. And this might also entail a Limit Break for Signum...

Re: Signum vs. Zest: It felt better animated than the Nanoha vs. Vivio match. But Zest's polearm breaking felt cheap.

Hayate: I feel very cheated here... They did give her Unison; only with no animation. They had her fight against far more drones than Nanoha and Vita fought in the hallway; and they didn't show how. C'mon! AT LEAST ONE ATTACK!:frustrated: She did come out without a scratch. They better give her at least ONE attack next ep...

Re: UBERH4XX AMF: Had they been using that earlier, Nanoha would have been incapacitated easily, Blaster Form or whatnot. Heck, it knocked out Hayate (sky high magic stamina and barely controllable magic output) out of Unison (felt so plot device what was the point of showing us her Unison form if they would only render her helpless later?) and rendered them both flightless... And what's powering that thing, BTW?:eyebrow:

Re: Double Knuckle: Sounds promising. And since Subaru is also technically a Sentoukijin (no need for magic in some circumstances), she'd be perfect for rescuing Hayate and Nanoha.

Re: Agito: Her Unison with Signum is pretty much confirmed next ep. Interesting...

arkhangelsk

2007-09-16, 23:01

Nightengale

2007-09-16, 23:02

Mother?

Why was Uno unconscious anyways? Didn't she just get binded?

All the time, until the twelve are dead.

- If he dies, whoever of the 12 that survives and escapes will just give birth to his copy clone. So, new!Jail with his mother. Though at this rate, the only hope is Cinque, or any 'unknown insurance' Jail had kept secret even from Uno.

- Probably result of Acous's mind-rape/scan.

- If one survives and gives birth to new!Jail, he can just create ANOTHER 12 and spawn his seeds further. Who knows, maybe this time he'll learn from his mistakes and improvise on both his insurance and Numbers.

serenade_beta

2007-09-16, 23:09

- If he dies, whoever of the 12 survives will just give birth to his copy clone. So, new!Jail with his mother

I see what you mean now.

I didn't understand because I'd never use mother for such a situation. Since he is their "father". Hmm... Father's daughter giving birth to her father who created her... *haha*

Though at this rate, the only hope is Cinque

Cursed lolicon!... :D

Makes me wonder how old she is... again...

- If one survives and gives birth to new!Jail, he can just create ANOTHER 12 and spawn his seeds further.

Actually sounds funny. :D

Makes him sound like a plague, or Makoto.

maybe this time he'll learn from his mistakes and improvise on both his insurance and Numbers.

What he really needs is a "haxx negator".

And a super Cradle AMF on his numbers. And a self-destruct chip on them as well, though that would be cruel.

But he could kill Scahch, Teana, and Subaru that way.

Outlaender

2007-09-16, 23:31

My reaction? GJ, Nanoha!

Yes, and there we have it! Nanoha Starlight Breakers Vivio!! ^_°
I want a slowmo recap! "Vivio, this will hurt me, more than it hurts you..." Frightenly true, apparently. Quattro was sort of pathetic there- what a whiner, just because Nanoha Blaster Lvl3 Divine Busters her.

iamthebest22

2007-09-17, 00:16

This show just started to caught my attention, and wow it's pretty intense, especially this episode (although I assume that it's just because it's near the end right? Only 26 episodes?) I'm also interested, how did the lady that also has Subaru's powers suddenly turned evil? (I'll dun wanna wait for all my things to finish dl so lol.) Lol Nanoha totally pwned that woman who was hiding down there. Btw why was that woman who Nanoha totally blasted touching her stomach, was she.....?

Adr 00

2007-09-17, 00:24

This show sucks truly................what an anticlimate this is.

ShoShinjo

2007-09-17, 01:15

Episode 25, woooot!!

Vita: I knew that Gigantform wasn't Eisen's most powerful form!!! HELL YEAH!!! XD Anyone can tell me what's this form called? Eisen's Limit Break RULES!! Vita went overboard and got saved by Hayate, but demonstrated that there isn't a single thing that the Iron Knight can't break. Hail Vita!!!

Hayate & Rein: Finally unison, but no animation sequence? They better give Hayate something to do next episode or heads will roll >> Whatever, Hayate looks great in Unison too, and Small Boss is always cool xD

Zest & Signum: Long Hair Signum FTW!!!! She looks GREAT. The fight looked really cool too. And I'm waiting for that Agito+Signum Unison next episode (I wonder which colors Signum will take...)

Subaru & Teana: They're together again, and encountered with Shamal and Vice, great! (Shamal, you must have healed Tea you hear? ¬¬) Double Knuckle and a motorcycle? I smell something good here xD (I hope to see that Inherent Skill again)

Quattro: PWNED!!! Hah, you deserved it!! ¬¬ I thought the energy spheres Nanoha dropped were explosives (Accel Shooter-like energy bullets or something), but Wide Area Search? Impressive. Well, since Nanoha was mad at Quattro, I won't call that "befriending", but "owning" XD Blaster Mode sure it's dangerous... (I heard "Blaster Three"... it makes me wonder, how many Blaster Mode limits are?)

Nanoha VS Vivio: STARLIGHT BREAKR FTW!!! Magic Damage Knockdown it's a weird way of sealing/destroying Lost Logia... But Starlight Breaker!!! And five of them by the way!!! I was waiting for that attack since the series started!! XD But now I wonder, how many power Nanoha has? And why is she ranked only S+, with all that power? (maybe the fact that it's as dangerous for her than it's for anyone is the thing that keeps her at S+, but then again, that's a rank only, not a power level...). Vivio became chibi again, and then they reunited with Hayate (where did you left Vita? You got her to a safe place RIGHT?? ¬¬)

The Cradle and the AMF: ...ok, the only reason I can think of the AMF being that strong until now, it's that they needed Vivio's magical power. Now, the main engine is damaged, and the "King" isn't moving the Cradle anymore, so it's going to blow. If everything is doomed, what's powering/generating the AMF? Scaglietti's Lab? The Relics had a system that allowed them to generate an AMF until the ship blows? Divine will??

Preview: Happy end...? Ok, I expected that anyway. Nanoha in Exceed Mode at the final episode? Forwards showdown at Full Power?? (like in the A's manga, Belka Knights versus Mid-Childa Mages?)

I don't know about everyone else, but I liked this episode A LOT. Now I have seen that I was waiting from the start, any other cool thing will be a plus. And I still wonder, which colors Signum will take...?

Fabien

2007-09-17, 02:48

Re: UBERH4XX AMF: Had they been using that earlier, Nanoha would have been incapacitated easily, Blaster Form or whatnot.

But if Nanoha was incapacited by AMF, there's a chance that Vivio would have been, too -- and thus unable to handle the Cradle.

And what's powering that thing, BTW?

The same thing that powers it in the drones, I suppose.

FlameSparkZ

2007-09-17, 03:09

I wonder where the Cradle is going to crash...:uhoh:
It won't be in Scaglietti's lab, since when it took off it flew away from it.

And it seem's Scaglietti's lab is going boom...unless Fate can stop it.
Where did she pull that keyboard from anyway? :twitch: :eyespin:

Tormenk

2007-09-17, 04:35

Magic Damage is one fricking big plot device. Divine Buster blowing through the throne room all way to the inner most chambers to reach Quattro's ass and she's still in one piece while structural material is vaporized? :rolleyes:
Huge SLB with funnels/dragoons blowing a crater into the floor and Vivio manages to stand. The feedback from the SLB should have at least rendered her unconscious. :rolleyes:

Can't devices recover themselves? Zest dropping his broken polearm to go for a punch was pretty lame. Still, gotta give it to the guy who went head on with his fist against a blazing sword. :heh:

Rest in peace Zest. You will be remembered.:sad:

Wonder what happened to the almighty 'Barrier of the Saint King' Quattro was raving about that wouldn't put a scratch on Vivio.. :confused:

Gee, Ginga still had her left arm intact. Unless the drill/hand part is a extension of the Knuckle, Subaru's going to use her IS with a drill next ep.

Dual wielding for Subaru. Limit Break anyone? And where is Teana hiding Cross Mirage's Full Drive form I wonder.

Next episode has a rush conclusion in sight, hopefully not too lame. Looks like we got to wait for the SS and manga to pick up the slack, sadly.

Adr 00

2007-09-17, 05:06

This series now sucks a lot.And it was all thanks to one stupid girl and the pacing.

Tormenk

2007-09-17, 05:13

MSLN and MSLN A's remain as good as ever, thankfully since it came before StrikerS but what comes after this.. :heh:

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-17, 05:21

well this was the episode that everyone's been waiting for...Vivio Vs. Nanoha and some side things here and there.
Got to watch the RAW and this was actually a pretty good episode compared to the previous ones during this final battle. A fitting conclusion, although a bit way over the top, but it was actually pretty good. And its a good thing I created that signature because my wish came true, Hayate unison with Rein!:D (I'm so happy that Hayate didn't get shafted in the final moments of this fight), although it was expected already though.

- Vita all beaten up and such, and still has the will power to do Eisen's new form and crush that Power core of the Cradle. Not to mention that she triggered the defense mechanism on the Cradle and she still kept on going, no matter what was being bombarded on her. Vita and Teana really amazed me in this final fight. But in her last rush with the power core, Eisen became so beaten up that he disappeared and she fell towards the floor until unison Hayate showed up.:) I was really happy to see unison Hayate before StrikerS came to a close.
- Signum vs. Zest...a short but sweet fight. Zest didn't put a scratch on Signum, but he did make contact with Signum's ribbon and her hair was let down and...man does she look hot in that form.:D Signum destroyed Zest's device and well, it hurt his head.:heh: One more final rush with Signum doing her flame sword and it was over. Zest was down and about to die...too bad, Zest was really a good character...I guess this is the only death in this show?
- To the main fight, Vivio vs. Nanoha...she was letting loose her Blaster modes already...and they were FUNNELS??...I am seriously thinking that she has now upgraded to "Gundam" based attack formations now.:twitch: A few binds here and there from Nanoha and Vivio giving Nanoha-mama some punches to the body and face (ouch!)...while Quattro watches from a secluded area not knowing that Nanoha did a W.A.S to find out where Quatrro was hidden, since she was the cause of controlling Vivio.
- Finally found Quattro and Nanoha let out a Blaster mode 3 Divine Buster on Quattro's little hideout...she got so befriended :D...good ol' befriending by Nanoha. That stopped Lutecia's monsters from going berserk, but not good enough to stop Vivio's Relic inside her.
- She mentions about Nanoha and Fate not being her real mother, that she is a copy of someone else with that person's memories, and other stuff, and Nanoha replies with she will try to be a better mother to Vivio and other stuff like that.:heh:
- So it finally came to a conclusion where Nanoha released her full Blaster mode (5 Excellion buster Funnels surrounding Vivio :twitch:!!) combined with her ultimate move, the Starlight Breaker Attack! Vivio, who was conscious and not being brainwashed, prepared herself to get hit by this enormous attack. Nanoha used a final binding to hold Vivio down and BOOOM!! fired off Starlight Breaker on all sides surrounding Vivio.
- After the smoke cleared, Nanoha was beat and tired ( I can see why Blaster Mode is so dangerous to use if you're not careful enough....and she did this mode 8 years ago!!...thats pretty amazing:heh:) and Vivio was reverted back to her 5 year old self, but she can now speak clearly without kiddish words and well, she wanted to be strong to walk towards Nanoha, but seeing that made Nanoha go flashback mode and thought about the other time Nanoha let Vivio get up on her own to show that she is learning to grow up on her own, and so she ran off to Vivio instead and hugged her. Nice ending to a final fight. :)
- Hayate reaches the same room with Vivio and Nanoha and the ship activates its AMF shield for defensive purposes, so that means they cant fly...:uh-oh:
- Fate with Scaglietti telling him to stop the destruction of the Cradle, but he just replies that its not his worry and his clone children will take over his role and other blabber...:heh:
- Teana meets up with Subaru, Subaru is given Blitz Calibur from Ginga and Teana looks like she will be using Vice's bike?? (she was eying that bike when Vice got out of the copter.) looks like Vice is out of retirement also.
- So the forwards all look like they're off to save their captains, or the three aces of TSAB.
- Chrono is seen, with his fleet of ships..I guess by the time he gets there, his crew will finish off the Cradle after the Forwards save the Captains.
- Preview: The conclusion of the final flight of the Cradle, looks like Agito did unison with someone ( i think its Signum), and looks like a graduation ceremony for the Forwards to transfer from Forward status to Strikers status...but looks like Nanoha has one more final test for them, since she is shown with her Exceed barrier jacket on...hmmm

Good episode...didn't think it would turn out to be this good. Although Vivio's timeskip self will be missed and so will Zest.:(
Although the Blaster mode and Starlight Breaker attack was a bit too much of an ending, alteast we got to see the Starlight Breaker attack before the season ended.
If theres a season 4, I wouldn't be surprise...theres still alot of things unsolved...Cinque is missing...MAYBE SHE GAVE BIRTH!!:twitch:...GASP!!!!!!!!
9/10

Nightengale

2007-09-17, 05:25

MSLN and MSLN A's remain as good as ever, thankfully since it came before StrikerS but what comes after this.. :heh:

To be fair, StrikerS is better than S1 overall, but that's not exactly a praise.

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-17, 05:34

To be fair, StrikerS is better than S1 overall, but that's not exactly a praise.

I don't know, I actually felt the threat in the first season, the urgency. It might not be as big of a danger compared to StriekrS in theory, but at least it was very much entertaining.

Adr 00

2007-09-17, 05:37

I don't know, I actually felt the threat in the first season, the urgency. It might not be as big of a danger compared to StriekrS in theory, but at least it was very much entertaining.

Yeah,cradle boom-doom ?i did not feel it was dangerous at all.

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-17, 06:06

that scene with Signum holding up Zest while he speaks to Agito and such...I really do think that Zest and Signum match up together and especially with her hair down...oh wells, Zest will be missed though.:(

:Gundam Battle Assault 2 Announcer: "FUNNEL ATTACK!"...:heh:, that voice was going around my head when Nanoha released two funnels out of her Blaster Mode.

Estavali

2007-09-17, 06:10

Keroko

2007-09-17, 06:13

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-17, 06:17

Darco_emp

2007-09-17, 06:59

about TeanaXVice, ironically their Seiyuus are going to be the starring roles in the upcoming anime "Clannad"...so maybe its a reference somehow??...hmmm, but they do seem to point out that TeanaXVice isn't dead and it makes it even better that he's out of retirement and is back to sniping heads again.:heh:

At least Tea X Vice is not that bad of a pairing, at least its better then some of the pairing I have been hearing....
Signum x Erio... I still can not get my head around it

Keroko

2007-09-17, 07:00

At least Tea X Vice is not that bad of a pairing, at least its better then some of the pairing I have been hearing....
Signum x Erio... I still can not get my head around it

Oh yes, the crazy 'Caro and Signum are one person' stories. Good times. :D

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-17, 07:01

Signum x Erio... I still can not get my head around it

Heard it from a little 'birdie' :p ?

Nightengale

2007-09-17, 07:20

Just a couple of off-topic questions:

1) Which language was the Cradle using (still German)?

2) Was there any significance to the ring that Zest wore?

Overall this episode is definitely better than last week's imho. For one, at least the animation is better. And the haxxed Divine Buster and SLB is definitely delightful to the eyes, even if the brains cringe from them :p.

About Vice and the bike... Is 7Arcs still interested in TiaXVice? (I certainly hope so!)

Inside that ring contains everything Zest had learned about the Sentoukijin incident, etc, the information he's obtained over the years.

The bike is obviously there for Teana to use inside the Cradle.

Heard it from a little 'birdie' :p ?

Wrong spelling. :p

Anyway, I've long over that crack. Only Kha's still enjoying it. SignumZest is far more visually appealing, especially after uncanny similarities of Zest to my OCs, not to mention the Qui-Gon scene with Signum and Agito. So what if he's dead? It's only the 2nd time. :p

Estavali

2007-09-17, 07:35

Inside that ring contains everything Zest had learned about the Sentoukijin incident, etc, the information he's obtained over the years.

The bike is obviously there for Teana to use inside the Cradle.

Thanks about the ring explanation, I was puzzled why the camera was focused on it for a while.

Anyway, I've long over that crack. Only Kha's still enjoying it. SignumZest is far more visually appealing, especially after uncanny similarities of Zest to my OCs, not to mention the Qui-Gon scene with Signum and Agito. So what if he's dead? It's only the 2nd time. :p

Hmm...

If:

Technological possibility + ethics ignored + fan response = Zest reborn as program or etc => a possible husband/consort for Signum (finally)?

Wierd ideas :p. Don't mind me.

maximilian06

2007-09-17, 07:48

About Vice and the bike... Is 7Arcs still interested in TiaXVice? (I certainly hope so!)

Nah, in Nanohaverse, there can only be yuri, so SubaruXTia all the way :heh:

Kha

2007-09-17, 08:04

Wrong spelling. :p

Anyway, I've long over that crack. Only Kha's still enjoying it. SignumZest is far more visually appealing, especially after uncanny similarities of Zest to my OCs, not to mention the Qui-Gon scene with Signum and Agito. So what if he's dead? It's only the 2nd time. :pOnly because its part of a TIME PARADOX, the funniest way to screw a universe, yet only possible in the infinite alleyways of the OC thread. :)

But if you want me to be serious, SigZest, LamiaZengar, LoveBolt. :D

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-17, 08:15

Wrong spelling. :p

Your name isn't spelling it correct either :p

If:

Technological possibility + ethics ignored + fan response = Zest reborn as program or etc => a possible husband/consort for Signum (finally)?

Wierd ideas :p. Don't mind me.

You kidding?! Agito would flip :D :heh: !

(Unless she's already in someone else's harem... >.>)

Nightengale

2007-09-17, 08:21

Nah, in Nanohaverse, there can only be yuri, so SubaruXTia all the way :heh:

Chrono? :p

Regardless, yeah, I don't see Vice actually having a chance, even if there'll probably be more interactions between them if S4 comes.

Nanohaverse seems to like keeping spares in these cases of possible heteros. Case in point, Alto, Schach... maybe Arf. :uhoh:

Your name isn't spelling it correct either :p

It's on purpose. That's why you can't refer to me as that birdie which is a nightingale. :p

Chi-no

2007-09-17, 08:25

Wow... Anothe impressive show... makes me look forward to the next esp... Starlight Breaker..... again ! Full form ! :)

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-17, 08:28

Chrono? :p

Gahh ohho~... :upset: !!!

*Slams head onto desk*

Regardless, yeah, I don't see Vice actually having a chance, even if there'll probably be more interactions between them if S4 comes.

Nanohaverse seems to like keeping spares in these cases of possible heteros. Case in point, Alto, Schach... maybe Arf. :uhoh:

You don't see Subaru needing those though :p

She's H-O-P-E-L-E-S-S :D

It's on purpose. That's why you can't refer to me as that birdie which is a nightingale. :p

That birdee then :p

hound297

2007-09-17, 08:47

- If he dies, whoever of the 12 that survives and escapes will just give birth to his copy clone. So, new!Jail with his mother. Though at this rate, the only hope is Cinque, or any 'unknown insurance' Jail had kept secret even from Uno.

I got a big bad feeling that Ginga is also infected with that...." you know what" . I mean, Jail put her in a test tube and he got all the chance to do... "additional modifications" to her..

Nightengale

2007-09-17, 08:54

I got a big bad feeling that Ginga is also infected with that...." you know what" . I mean, Jail put her in a test tube and he got all the chance to do... "additional modifications" to her..

With Jail opening his big mouth to Fate, even IF there is that spawn inside her, I don't think Ginga will want to keep it.

Unless Jail made it so that any attempts whatsoever to remove or kill the clone-spawn inside the fetus will kill the carrier.

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-17, 09:00

With Jail opening his big mouth to Fate, even IF there is that spawn inside her, I don't think Ginga will want to keep it.

Unless Jail made it so that any attempts whatsoever to remove or kill the clone-spawn inside the fetus will kill the carrier.

So... Kill it after it leaves the carrier :)

Or... Put it in statsis and stick a probe in it's head and drain...

Nightengale

2007-09-17, 09:01

So... Kill it after it leaves the carrier :)

Or... Put it in statsis and stick a probe in it's head and drain...

Chances of that happening is as high as Riot Force 6 actually helping Lutecia to revive her mother.

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-17, 09:05

Chances of that happening is as high as Riot Force 6 actually helping Lutecia to revive her mother.

That's why... TSAB must be very sure... That they won't find out :uhoh: (:heh:)

But seriously, that's the flaw in the plan to impregnate Ginga :p Like hell it could be kept a secret.

krisslanza

2007-09-17, 09:22

And like hell Ginga would want that baby... It's hard to hide a pregnant woman, what with the swelling belly and all... :uhoh:

Jabawock

2007-09-17, 09:56

About Vita x Graf Eisen Limit Break.
Is it coincidence or not ? Now Graf Eisen has big drill and Tetsuya Kakihara who voices him also voices Simon.

Looks like another seiyuu joke after Lamia/Signum.

Flar

2007-09-17, 10:14

With Jail opening his big mouth to Fate, even IF there is that spawn inside her, I don't think Ginga will want to keep it.

Unless Jail made it so that any attempts whatsoever to remove or kill the clone-spawn inside the fetus will kill the carrier.As we saw with vivio, there is nothing that near lethal violence cannot solve.

In the case of Ginga, it makes a lot of sense, think about it: A lot of us were wondering why Ginga stopped being mind-controlled after that divine buster. Now, we know: Subaru didn't really hit Ginga, she punched mini-scaglietti into nothingness.

Abortion Clinic White Devil. There is nothing our hellish tools cannot remove. It has a certain ring to it.

Mirificus

2007-09-17, 10:51

iamandragon

2007-09-17, 11:01

Ouch! I never noticed that when watching! Must be a nightmare for Ginga...

Xellos-_^

2007-09-17, 12:26

Basically to solve all the mini jail problem they just need tolineup the surviving numbers and have Nanoha do a starlight breaker. Whether the numbers survive or not problem solve :D

Dream_Traveller

2007-09-17, 12:28

Well, I've been reading Aroduc's review, and...heck, you might be right, Gale:

...Scaglietti tells Fate that the Cradle and all his assorted works are going to go nuclear to create an opening to allow at least one of his copies to escape.

So maybe Cinque does become the sole survivor after all...

Noppapana

2007-09-17, 14:44

although grownup vivio is a villain in ep25 well sorta
i find her extremely cute... i wonder who also shares this opinion ?

Nvis

2007-09-17, 15:58

Well, I've been reading Aroduc's review, and...heck, you might be right, Gale:

So maybe Cinque does become the sole survivor after all...

Survivor or not, she can't give birth if the real Jail is still alive.

And the guys in Asura ARE keeping track of the 12 Numbers.

serenade_beta

2007-09-17, 16:29

Survivor or not, she can't give birth if the real Jail is still alive.

And the guys in Asura ARE keeping track of the 12 Numbers.

1. He never stated he had to be dead.

2. I wonder. This show does the stupidest things at times.

Dream_Traveller

2007-09-17, 16:35

Well, I reckon that the Asura is only keeping track of the moving Numbers. As far as we know, Cinque is still immobile in a tube. I somehow get the feeling she'll face down double-knuckle Subaru in 26, but, eh.

Anyway, it isn't beyond the possibility that Cinque, if still immobile, could be ejected from the Cradle and carried off by drones, or something to that degree.

Jimmy C

2007-09-17, 16:37

Cinque was never on the Cradle, her tube is in the lab.

Dream_Traveller

2007-09-17, 16:41

No, no, no, they had those tubes on the Cradle, too. Didn't you see? The numeric ones, XV, XIV, etc. At least...yup, they did.

serenade_beta

2007-09-17, 16:44

No, no, no, they had those tubes on the Cradle, too. Didn't you see? The numeric ones, XV, XIV, etc. At least...yup, they did.

Those were in the lab. Are you talking about the ones Fate saw?

Anyone else have an opinion? Te... not opinion, fact...

Dream_Traveller

2007-09-17, 16:47

Yes, that I am. There couldn't have been two Number laboratories after all...in fact, isn't Jail's only lab, the one we constantly saw, in the Cradle itself? Apologies if this sounds asinine but that's how I see it.

serenade_beta

2007-09-17, 16:53

Dream_Traveller

2007-09-17, 16:54

Then...wait...then the lab on the...wait...

Aw, dang, I'm confused completely now and have probably made a fool of myself. :eyespin:

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-17, 19:17

Well, I reckon that the Asura is only keeping track of the moving Numbers. As far as we know, Cinque is still immobile in a tube. I somehow get the feeling she'll face down double-knuckle Subaru in 26, but, eh.

Rather than moving, I'll say it's just numbers that they know about... The 4 with Ginga, the 3 (I'm not sure how Acous knows about Uno)that Fate and Schach fought... The 2 in the Cradle...

serenade_beta

2007-09-17, 20:18

Got to watch the raw...

Before opening: Shut up, Nanoha!

Vita: ... *shuts mouth*

Nanoha: I wish that you will drown in magma.

Due: Eh? Wasn't there blood near her one episode ago...

Zest: When did his weapon become pretzal weak...?

Eyecatch: Surprising nice...

Jail's lab: Er... Why is Sette's weapon in one piece? It should be destroyed. I wish the lab will blow up with them all still inside.

Quattro: Gagh... I couldn't get myself to watch it again. It hurts...

Vice: Why, hello, you freakin' "should still be injured man"

Vivio: Oh, great. You survived. I'm so hap--- Gahh! @&%%#&%*

Episode thoughts:

Is it a bad thing that Zest's drama was far better than Nanoha's? Most boring climax end for an action series I've seen (as I can remember). For some reason, I get this urge to blow a hole in Erio's head whenever he says Lu. Caro too. Garyuu need to die too, that stupid blood crying bug.

And so the "climax" ends. A fun painful journey, but it's over. One more episode, where everyone gets rescued (oh goody) and peaceful times return. Not much to look forward to. My ideal end is:

Cinque also goes haxx and blows up RF6 with her Rumble Detonator killing ALL of them.

I'll probably wish for Agito to die too, by the end of next episode.

What language was the Cradle speaking?

FlareKnight

2007-09-17, 20:42

Oh well if anything went well it was the great stuff for Vita. Even if her major opponent was an immovable object. Beating her way through the drones, dealing with the defences, and her and Eisen giving everything to crush that thing into pieces. The catch by Hayate and thus came the victory for this series to the Iron Hammer Knight.

For some reason that part meant more to me than Nanoha's befriending of Vivio, though Signum's freed hair gave her some points in that Zest part.

Mirificus

2007-09-17, 20:59

What language was the Cradle speaking?
It was speaking German. It is Belkan after all.

Estavali

2007-09-17, 22:03

As we saw with vivio, there is nothing that near lethal violence cannot solve.

In the case of Ginga, it makes a lot of sense, think about it: A lot of us were wondering why Ginga stopped being mind-controlled after that divine buster. Now, we know: Subaru didn't really hit Ginga, she punched mini-scaglietti into nothingness.

Abortion Clinic White Devil. There is nothing our hellish tools cannot remove. It has a certain ring to it.

Hmm...

Let's say, IF Gin-nee's brainwashed state is a result of having "that thing" in her, that would mean that having a DB running through her really did solve the problem.

It's almost like exorcism... Hey! *brainstorms*

Rather than moving, I'll say it's just numbers that they know about... The 4 with Ginga, the 3 (I'm not sure how Acous knows about Uno)that Fate and Schach fought... The 2 in the Cradle...

Unless Jail has been keeping secrets like an unfaithful husband, Uno should know everything that he does.

Then again, for someone that went to the extent of making his own harem... :rolleyes:

Oh well if anything went well it was the great stuff for Vita. Even if her major opponent was an immovable object. Beating her way through the drones, dealing with the defences, and her and Eisen giving everything to crush that thing into pieces. The catch by Hayate and thus came the victory for this series to the Iron Hammer Knight.

For some reason that part meant more to me than Nanoha's befriending of Vivio, though Signum's freed hair gave her some points in that Zest part.

Agreed. Out of the three fights (Vita vs Cradle, Nanoha vs Vivio, Signum and Zest's battle courtship), imho only Vita's has the sense of urgency and emotional impact that the situation requires. It would not be unfair to say that the best part of the episode goes to Vita's struggle.

X207

2007-09-17, 22:47

it was a good ep i find, one question, ginga fave blitz caliber to subaru, i thought that the device was actually the rollerblades. personally i think subaru has enuff power with mach caliber. i also find all possiblies of a mini-skag were eliminated after a divine buster.
looking forward to double fist and also signum/agito unision.

Icarus

2007-09-17, 23:14

1) Divine BLASTER, not BUSTER.

2) Quattro got owned, but I think Nanoha held back a little.
(Yeah yeah, if you can call BLASTER SYSTEM LIMIT 3 "holding back". :heh:)
Otherwise they'd be picking Quattro up with a sponge.

3) Aren't people forgetting that Vivio is the Vessel of the Saint, and apparently can withstand anything upto and past Dieci's S-rank Heavy Barrel? 6x SLB won't even faze her.

4) Touching scene at the end before mass befriending. Kudos to teenage Vivio's VA for a nice performance (such a nice voice).

5) Subaru to the rescue! I can see her Vibro-Shattering her way through the hull of the Cradle to rescue Nanoha and the others now. (Which makes sense since her I.S. works within AMF conditions, unlike everyone else in RF6.)

6) Incoming Signum + Agito UNISON = awesome.

Bring on 26.

PS: Vivio = White Devil v2.
And what makes that even more scary, is that she'll be trained in the Art of Befriending by v1, and that she's also completely indestructible...

Nightengale

2007-09-17, 23:18

3) Aren't people forgetting that Vivio is the Vessel of the Saint, and apparently can withstand anything upto and past Dieci's S-rank Heavy Barrel? 6x SLB won't even faze her.

I didn't see her rainbow aura working during the SLB shot. What's protecting her is her Rare Skill, not her physical body. (( which SLB wouldn't really harm either. ))

Speaking of which, what happened to her Belka Triangle and Rainbow Tornado? Offensive variants are one thing, but her apparent defensive protocols seems to be less apparent.

Adr 00

2007-09-17, 23:32

Sigh....this is like season 1,without the WOW factor

Jimmy C

2007-09-17, 23:33

Speaking of which, what happened to her Belka Triangle and Rainbow Tornado?

She might have shut them down.

narmi

2007-09-18, 00:19

She might have shut them down.

Vivio did "turn off" her defensive aura ability so Nanoha could save her.

On a good note I have enjoyed StrikerS from the beginning (including the slow process of training episodes).

What I'm looking forward too for episode 26;

1) Teana uses Vice's motorcycle in the cradle.

2) Subaru will use her multi vibrational I.S. in the rescue attempt.

3) Signum doing a unison with Agito and the appearance after they do the unison. (I'm excited just waiting to see the unison and hoping how awesome it might be).

4) What will happen to the Lutecia, the numbers and Scagelleti for their crimes. With that what will become Quatro, will she die or be saved then charged. In my opinion she will die. I'm hoping she will be saved...

5) Who will take over Regius's position, what will happen to Zest (since he's dead).

6) With that what will happen to Riot Force 6 since they were the main force for turning the tide of the battle to protect Midchildia. Will RF6 continue their service or disband and move on with their own careers?

7) Last I hope another season of the Nanoha series will be released. If they do make another season lets hope for the best.

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-18, 03:36

did Jail even state how long does it take for his clones to mature and give labor once they're ready to go out into the world and take over his work? I mean once they're born, I don't think they'll be ready to take over the world...they will be just babies.:heh:
But this idea that they have thrown into the story...its kinda sick in a way....eww:twitch: (Makoto wannabe:heh:)

Adr 00

2007-09-18, 03:40

how about lets hope 7Arcs abandons the nanoha franchise,but not the universe.This would so save the story from further harm.

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-18, 03:45

how about lets hope 7Arcs abandons the nanoha franchise,but not the universe.This would so save the story from further harm.

so you're saying you don't want a season 4 of Nanoha?
Considering the amount of abandoned side plots made throughout the whole season, they might as well create another season to make up for StrikerS becoming too cluttered with too many plots and such.
Anyways, the Forwards have amazed me at what they can do, especially Teana.
I wouldn't mind seeing them in action again in another season of Nanoha.

Tormenk

2007-09-18, 03:45

Pretty unlikely.

The nanoha franchise is too much of a cash cow to cut off. Even if they were to set a new story within this universe, it probably wouldn't be as popular as with the old characters.

Adr 00

2007-09-18, 03:48

so you're saying you don't want a season 4 of Nanoha?
Considering the amount of abandoned side plots made throughout the whole season, they might as well create another season to make up for StrikerS becoming too cluttered with too many plots and such.
Anyways, the Forwards have amazed me at what they can do, especially Teana.
I wouldn't mind seeing them in action again in another season of Nanoha.

Not that i dont want it,but if it going to be like strikers,i'll rather they dont bother.And how would they cover those holes up in a new season?

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-18, 03:57

Not that i dont want it,but if it going to be like strikers,i'll rather they dont bother.And how would they cover those holes up in a new season?

Project F is still related to Erio and he still didn't find out his significance of his memories of this important person that passed away a long time ago.
Relics...WHAT ARE THEY!!??
Baby Jails??:twitch: (not really a plot hole, but could be the new main plot if a new season comes:heh:)
Subaru and Ginga...both cyborg sisters, but who built them? and for what purpose?
Lutecia and the significance of finding Relic#11...did Scaglietti use it on Vivio? or does he still have it?
And whats to become of Lutecia's mother, Alpito? will she come back alive?
Al-Hazard?
Prophecy being a fake?...seriously, I thought the second half of StrikerS was going to fully focus on what Carim saw...and TSAB takes seriousness in her powers to see the future, but why didn't it happen?
Cinque...did she give birth already?:twitch:

hound297

2007-09-18, 04:01

Vivio did "turn off" her defensive aura ability so Nanoha could save her.

On a good note I have enjoyed StrikerS from the beginning (including the slow process of training episodes).

What I'm looking forward too for episode 26;

1) Teana uses Vice's motorcycle in the cradle.

2) Subaru will use her multi vibrational I.S. in the rescue attempt.

3) Signum doing a unison with Agito and the appearance after they do the unison. (I'm excited just waiting to see the unison and hoping how awesome it might be).

4) What will happen to the Lutecia, the numbers and Scagelleti for their crimes. With that what will become Quatro, will she die or be saved then charged. In my opinion she will die. I'm hoping she will be saved...

5) Who will take over Regius's position, what will happen to Zest (since he's dead).

6) With that what will happen to Riot Force 6 since they were the main force for turning the tide of the battle to protect Midchildia. Will RF6 continue their service or disband and move on with their own careers?

7) Last I hope another season of the Nanoha series will be released. If they do make another season lets hope for the best.

8) Will Chrono really remains sited down the ENTIRE SEASON ?!

Adr 00

2007-09-18, 04:07

Project F is still related to Erio and he still didn't find out his significance of his memories of this important person that passed away a long time ago.
Relics...WHAT ARE THEY!!??
Baby Jails??:twitch: (not really a plot hole, but could be the new main plot if a new season comes:heh:)
Subaru and Ginga...both cyborg sisters, but who built them? and for what purpose?
Lutecia and the significance of finding Relic#11...did Scaglietti use it on Vivio? or does he still have it?
And whats to become of Lutecia's mother, Alpito? will she come back alive?
Al-Hazard?
Prophecy being a fake?...seriously, I thought the second half of StrikerS was going to fully focus on what Carim saw...and TSAB takes seriousness in her powers to see the future, but why didn't it happen?
Cinque...did she give birth already?:twitch:

i am aware of those holes,but How are they going to be covered in a new season?

Skane

2007-09-18, 04:17

*munch, munch*

Can someone enlighten me on the following? Has Hayate used a "Limit Break" yet?

Narf.

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-18, 04:18

i am aware of those holes,but How are they going to be covered in a new season?

hmmm, you know, I've been thinking hard about that one, but it might actually become deja vu again if they decide to do another season to cover up the holes...I mean the clones of Scaglietti being developed inside of each of the arrested Numbers. They are born, and they might die out of giving birth, the clone(s) create drones, another set of Numbers again...and well, yea...:heh:

Other than that, why don't they just do another 13 episode season...and wrap up the case of Project F...it might still be going on even at the end of StrikerS...there were multiple scientists involved in that project...and Scaglietti was only one of them...whats the chances of Project F being active within TSAB's walls...hhhmm

Tormenk

2007-09-18, 04:21

*munch, munch*

Can someone enlighten me on the following? Has Hayate used a "Limit Break" yet?

Narf.

Well sorry to disappoint you but Hayate hasn't used a "Limit Break" yet. Not sure if she even has one. :heh:

She remains sorrowfully shafted, even in her what she does now. :(

Nightengale

2007-09-18, 04:21

*munch, munch*

Can someone enlighten me on the following? Has Hayate used a "Limit Break" yet?

Narf.

No.

Let me enlighten you on what she had done instead.

Used a wide-range ice spell in a flashback.

Played nuke and Diabolic Emission for one episode.

Played central mage leader during the Cradle strike. We didn't even get to see her use one spell.

Used something to defeat the drones, what we don't know, since it cuts before we could see her doing something that's actually close to close combat.

Gets wtfpwned by AMF. Now awaiting rescue by Forwards.

Good thing is, since the battle's NOT over yet, chances are we'll at least see her use her Limit Break and a single spell next episode, once she gets out of the Cradle. Chances. It depends on whether they want to shaft Chrono or her.

Liingo

2007-09-18, 04:23

*munch, munch*

Can someone enlighten me on the following? Has Hayate used a "Limit Break" yet?

Narf.

Not that I'm aware of. I've watched the raw but couldn't understand much of it, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that she has used one.

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-18, 04:24

she did unison with Rein atleast....but no, no limit break.
Although she looked cool in that scene when she rescued
Vita from falling into the ground after doing her limit break on the Cradle's core.

Tokkan

2007-09-18, 04:59

Sigh....this is like season 1,without the WOW factor

Season 1 had WOW Factor... since when? I mean, I liked it, but it never wowed me. I like StrikerS more than season 1, but neither are as good as A's. In fact, Season 1 and StrikerS are pretty mediocre as anime goes, though I don't feel they're terrible in any sense at all. They're good, but they're not for anyone expecting a bang.

Estavali

2007-09-18, 05:04

Minna-san, it's that time again. Start bashing StrikerS with all that you have. Amen.

Estavali out.

Adr 00

2007-09-18, 05:07

Season 1 had WOW Factor... since when? I mean, I liked it, but it never wowed me. I like StrikerS more than season 1, but neither are as good as A's. In fact, Season 1 and StrikerS are pretty mediocre as anime goes, though I don't feel they're terrible in any sense at all. They're good, but they're not for anyone expecting a bang.

Hmm at least we wont have a sense of betrayal of the show's quality dropping halfway.

DmonHiro

2007-09-18, 05:36

Well....they are fixing the quality for the DVD's (again), so I have no problem with it. It's acually a pretty good markening strategy, TV version with the low animation, DVD version with the high. I really liked this episode, except how Hayate got shafted (again), and Chrono is STILL "on his way". How slow ARE those damn ships? Vivio got befriended, but since she's on god mode, not much harm done. That's more then I can say for Quattro...that HAD to hurt, I hope. Signum will unison with agito, and most likely do a limit break. Then we have dual-knuckle Subaru to the rescue. Still......then Tea and Subaru are on the heli, they still look pretty beath up, why did Shamal not heal them?

Skane

2007-09-18, 05:38

Ultima_Rasengan05

2007-09-18, 05:41

Hayate's limit break that even changes her outfit and looks to look like Reinforce I?
now that would be cool.:)
Its either Hayate does something huge and destroys Cradle herself, or Chrono and his ship company will take over once they're rescued and destroy Cradle with his Navy gang.

Nightengale

2007-09-18, 05:46

The reason for my earlier query is simple enough. It opens the door for them to let Hayate at least have the final bang in the last episode (although with Twin-Knuckles and Biker Tea... it is going to be necessary for it to be a REALLY BIG BANG to make an impression).

No really, my wants are pretty simple at this point. Fulfil any of the following scenarios.

Hayate initiates "Limit Break" and ignores the enhanced AMF.
Hayate blows up the Cradle (and I do mean BLOW, as in it makes Nanoha's Quintiple-Starlight Breaker look like a penlight).
Hayate unisons with all four of the Wolkenritter, plus R-Zwei.
Hayate beats the crap out of Cinque (obliterate even). Nah... it's not that I dislike Cinque or anything, it is just that she is the only one left to fight against. Tough luck, chibi-ko.
Hayate morphing into Reinforce.

Cheers.

First? Unlikely. Beats the point of having the Forwards coming to show their game under AMF conditions. Besides, we know StrikerS loves Subaru and Teana far more than Hayate.

2nd? Maybe. If Cradle's external defenses amount to zero now, then the chances are possible. If it's not the fleet, it's Hayate. 50-50 here, depends on who they value more. Chrono's who's doing jack, or Hayate's who's technically no different from doing jack.

3rd. Won't happen. At least not in StrikerS.

4th. Won't happen. Cinque's either in repairs sleeping, or is now the Soujiro Seta of Numbers. 26 wil be the determinent, but I'd say chances are close to zero we'd see Cinque in action.

5th. Maybe if they ever intend to close Nanoha's side of the story with a bang. But StrikerS? Imposshibible111!

Chaos2Frozen

2007-09-18, 06:37

@Nightengale
Like Zafira, they already shafted her this far... I doubt they're going to change anything now.

Hell, I mean, they shafted her UNISON :eek: What couldn't they dare to shaft now? I serously doubt that both her and Chrono will get to do anyway...

(Maybe we'll get Vivio to blow up the ship with herself >.>)

... So it's up to you now to do them justice :D

Hayate: Onii-channn~ Wahhhh :upset: !!!

Chrono: I know how you feel, I'm shafted too...

Flar

2007-09-18, 06:41

Hmm at least we wont have a sense of betrayal of the show's quality dropping halfway.Hey, weren't you the one saying we should stop ranting in the rpevious episode threads? :D

How did the show's quality drop halfway in StrikerS? If anything, at the halfway point, the story had not even begun. Infodumping, limiters and no plot are not really superior to fanservice and incoherent plot. It still sucks, but at least it sucks with explosions.

1. Hayate initiates "Limit Break" and ignores the enhanced AMF.Thinking about that, there is a rescue team converging toward the cradle, but how will they get close with the Hax AMF? We know wing road is interrupted by it (from the training episodes), and even if they pull some sort of stunt where Teana jumps with the motorcycle on the cradle starting from a ramp formed by a wingroad, how do they plan to actually get out? If jumping off is the solution, Nanoha and Hayate could do that by themsleves, without endangering anyone else, just like Caro did in the train episode.

Or is their plan to reduce the lab and the cradle to rubble before it can go nuclear? Seems a bit superfluous.

Unless they do it with fast flashbacks "wow you were really cool back then Tia <insert short sequence of motorcycle stunts>"

:uhoh:

FlameSparkZ

2007-09-18, 06:42

4th. Won't happen. Cinque's either in repairs sleeping, or is now the Soujiro Seta of Numbers. 26 wil be the determinent, but I'd say chances are close to zero we'd see Cinque in action.
Hmm...I think there's only been one Soujiro Seta (Rurouni Kenshin) but...can't really see the similarities between them :heh:

Care to explain? :D

Adr 00

2007-09-18, 06:47

Hey, weren't you the one saying we should stop ranting in the rpevious episode threads? :D

How did the show's quality drop halfway in StrikerS? If anything, at the halfway point, the story had not even begun. Infodumping, limiters and no plot are not really superior to fanservice and incoherent plot. It still sucks, but at least it sucks with explosions.

Thinking about that, there is a rescue team converging toward the cradle, but how will they get close with the Hax AMF? We know wing road is interrupted by it (from the training episodes), and even if they pull some sort of stunt where Teana jumps with the motorcycle on the cradle starting from a ramp formed by a wingroad, how do they plan to actually get out? If jumping off is the solution, Nanoha and Hayate could do that by themsleves, without endangering anyone else, just like Caro did in the train episode.

Or is their plan to reduce the lab and the cradle to rubble before it can go nuclear? Seems a bit superfluous.

Unless they do it with fast flashbacks "wow you were really cool back then Tia <insert short sequence of motorcycle stunts>"

:uhoh:

yes i wanted to hold it all back, but after this week's episode,im giving most of my cristism in advance.