View Full Version : Cloverfield (01-18-08)
anti-random
2007-09-18, 00:51
This seems to be an awesome movie people. It hasn't been released yet but the date 01-18-08 is the release date. Paramount is doing when hell of a campaign. This was a trailer that was first scene in Transformer. Look it up on wiki but it seems to be one hell of a movie. Also, the site Slusho.jp gives clues to the movie.
-KarumA-
2007-09-18, 05:17
This seems to be an awesome movie people. It hasn't been released yet but the date 01-18-08 is the release date. Paramount is doing when hell of a campaign. This was a trailer that was first scene in Transformer. Look it up on wiki but it seems to be one hell of a movie. Also, the site Slusho.jp gives clues to the movie.
i saw the trailer several weeks ago and when i went to see the transformers movie, i must say that its a pretty good stunt for popularity since nothing is known about the movie beside the date and the trailer, rumors spread out everywhere that it is about Khuthulu (or however you spell that giant thing's name)
there are more sites providing clues, but just in case people start looking for somehting official, there isnt a official movie site :3 im really looking forward to it since the trailer is so wicked, people should check it out
im glad theres finally a topic about it, i was planning on making one but you know the drill.. no time.. too lazy etc. :3
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Kinny Riddle
2007-09-18, 07:54
It's Cthulhu (pronounced Ka-too-loo). The mythological omnipotent being conceived by early 20th century author H.P. Lovecraft. At first I was thinking maybe the movie was a tie-in to the Lost TV series, considering it's directed by J.J. Abrams. But then again, there are also theories that the Island in Lost is none other than the one where Cthulhu lies in slumber, waiting to awaken one day to wreck havoc. I must admit I've not read any Lovecraft, most of the facts I've obtained from the ever resourceful wikipedia.
As long as it drives them all insane and then eats them :)
-KarumA-
2007-09-18, 14:22
It's Cthulhu (pronounced Ka-too-loo). The mythological omnipotent being conceived by early 20th century author H.P. Lovecraft. At first I was thinking maybe the movie was a tie-in to the Lost TV series, considering it's directed by J.J. Abrams. But then again, there are also theories that the Island in Lost is none other than the one where Cthulhu lies in slumber, waiting to awaken one day to wreck havoc. I must admit I've not read any Lovecraft, most of the facts I've obtained from the ever resourceful wikipedia.
ooh yes they also said that in the Empire magazine where i first actually read about the popularity of Clovr Field, though when i saw it in cinemas during Transformers id idnt think of it too much but it eats you if you read about it and then you get addicted to it too >.< i really should start watching Lost.. they broadcasted everything hee again but then late at night, i watched the first eps and then felt too tired to continiue watching every week
I can definitely see the Lost connection, especially with the humming from an unknown source. This is actually the first time I've managed to see the trailer since I didn't watch Transformers yet and it was removed from YouTube before. It does look interesting. :)
Kinny Riddle
2007-09-19, 09:10
Try this site instead for all the higher res trailers of the latest Hollywood movies.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/
Try this site instead for all the higher res trailers of the latest Hollywood movies.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/
That's a great site. And if you have QTpro (or something as fancy) you can save them too.
-KarumA-
2007-09-20, 03:42
im not a big fan of quicktime though :3
Zero Shinohara
2007-09-21, 15:17
im not a big fan of quicktime though :3
You can say that again. Gay ass program die in hell #((*@#(@.
As for the movie, yep, it looks like it'll be a kickass piece. I'm waiting to hear more from it.
I heard that the developers are very secretive about this movie. I guess they made the trailer like that on purpose to arouse the curiosity of the viewers.
anti-random
2007-09-23, 00:43
^Oh yeah, you don't think. But this movie contains all new actors like non known properly ones.
Well, we'll see its charm for the next year. Hey, maybe they will make a better trailer for it too :heehee:
I found this picture in wikipedia....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v704/Souseiseki/cloverfield.jpg
--> Sorry, it's too small and I can't find a bigger image.
Aya Reiko
2007-12-25, 20:09
Trailer 2:
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First "5 Minutes" clip:
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Generic Asian Guy
2007-12-25, 20:37
I just hope the whole thing wasn't filmed with a handheld camera with no tripod x_X
I just hope the whole thing wasn't filmed with a handheld camera with no tripod x_X
hehe, ditto. I think the movie looks interesting, although in the past I have not liked movies that are taken from a camera point of view.
Mashimaro
2007-12-25, 22:30
Hm..
In the second trailer.. 1:10 scene
Starts with a women screaming, what does it look inside the tent? the silhouette of two figures and a woman.
Aoie_Emesai
2007-12-25, 23:07
The movie shows some good parts. I can't wait for this show to come out. The trailer is like "War of the World" ^^
Agreed... two hours of "Blair-thulhu" and I'm not even going to walk into the theatre. The handheld arty cam look died years ago for me as a lame excuse. Properly used in limited ways it can be quite wonderful.... but a whole movie? bleh...
Hopefully this is not the case.
Aoie_Emesai
2007-12-26, 03:04
Agreed... two hours of "Blair-thulhu" and I'm not even going to walk into the theatre. The handheld arty cam look died years ago for me as a lame excuse. Properly used in limited ways it can be quite wonderful.... but a whole movie? bleh...
Hopefully this is not the case.
You are correct. But this one has much more revenue put into it, you don't see a girl screaming about blood (yet) do you ^^?
I am hoping that this movie will not disappoint me too much.
Actually, I would love to watch a movie like that, it looks really authentic. The acting isn't as crappy as Blair Witch Project.
FatPianoBoy
2007-12-26, 03:28
Since the whole premise it that this ordeal was filmed on a handycam by a regular guy, I think they'll have a hard time justifying using a tripod.
Since the whole premise it that this ordeal was filmed on a handycam by a regular guy, I think they'll have a hard time justifying using a tripod.
It'd really get on my nerves if it was really filmed using a camera like that for the entirety of the film. It's already annoying in the trailer since we cannot see anything clearly and are in the crowd-in-chaos' point of view. Imagine what it'd feel like movie-length. :(
FatPianoBoy
2007-12-26, 03:33
we cannot see anything clearly and are in the crowd-in-chaos' point of view. Imagine what it'd feel like movie-length. :(
Like you were in the midst of something terrible and had no idea what was happening, much like the characters onscreen?
Atmosphere ftw.
Like you were in the midst of something terrible and had no idea what was happening, much like the characters onscreen?
Atmosphere ftw.
Yes, I know it pulls off that kind of atmosphere well but as an audience member watching the movie, it gets annoying with that kind of jitter. I'd rather see and understand the story well instead of feeling the atmosphere. :heh:
I've been looking forward to this one. Seems like a bigger budget "Blair Witch", which may or may not be a good thing. From the trailer it seems the camera stays pretty focused on the good parts, but trailers can be pretty misleading so *shrug*.
The five minute preview seemed to be a good indicator that this will be done well, but those with motion sickness I feel for you. :(
Like you were in the midst of something terrible and had no idea what was happening, much like the characters onscreen?
Atmosphere ftw.
I can follow the notion :) ... but then we'll have to ignore the idea that this guy just happened to be in all the right spots at the right time :)
Aoie_Emesai
2007-12-26, 17:20
I can follow the notion :) ... but then we'll have to ignore the idea that this guy just happened to be in all the right spots at the right time :)
I hate the cam job though, the camera shakes too much, so viewing the movie gets rather annoying.
Agree.... a few minutes of handcam is all I really care no matter what the circumstances.
Happy_Chip
2007-12-26, 22:07
on the web (sorry lost the URL)
Five young New Yorkers throw their friend a going-away party the night that a monster the size of a skyscraper descends upon the city. Told from the point of view of their video camera, the film is a document of their attempt to survive the most surreal, horrifying event of their lives.
Doesn't sound like Lovecraft to me... sounds like Hollywood
(Either way I'm not the target demographic anyhow...)
and yes, if this is true, expect handycam type filming.
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/8d30c4f5a2.gif
I :( 2!
Happy_Chip
2007-12-27, 07:03
And:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33104
"... most of the film is going to be shot using home video cameras, as if from the point of view of real people who are experiencing an attack on New York ..."
anti-random
2008-01-14, 22:52
People, only two days to go to see New York destroyed.
Aoie_Emesai
2008-01-15, 00:47
Wrong! 3 days anti random ^^ 3 days.
I'm watching this movie this weekend. I hope it's good. Since freaking tickets are 10$ each now >.<
JustInn14
2008-01-15, 13:45
I heard a Carter's Siren, during one of the TV advertizments for it. :):) Don't know if that helps. :) :)
Doesn't look like a horrible film IMO.
anti-random
2008-01-15, 15:49
Wrong! 3 days anti random ^^ 3 days.
I'm watching this movie this weekend. I hope it's good. Since freaking tickets are 10$ each now >.<
Hold on its released on the 17/01/08 here so I was right. Its just that in the US its released on the 18/01/08.
Aoie_Emesai
2008-01-15, 17:31
Hold on its released on the 17/01/08 here so I was right. Its just that in the US its released on the 18/01/08.
Wha? Australia has earlier releases? >.< I guess you are right then.
Hey people, just wondering if any of you are still interested in this movie?
Now some people have said that the monster is Cthulu from H.P. Lovecraft, which unfortunately it isn't. Originally, I thought the same having seen this image:
http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/toybox_112806_3.jpg
But then again, that was just a concept design. The actual monster (which I assume is the real one) is a whale mutation:
http://wayangtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/cloverfield-monster-picture.jpg
Where it has minions, crabs that attack normal people. Simply enough just go onto Google Image search for Cloverfield and you can find a lot of stuff.
The only downside to this is the handheld cameras, Blair Witch was watchable, Transformers had moving cameras during most action scenes, which made it terrible to focus on what was going on.
Hopefully this should be a good movie, the Japanese Slushie! site was meant to be giving off all these clues, but even so, they might as well just focus on the movie instead of all these viral marketing. :p
ApostleOfGod
2008-01-15, 21:44
Hmm... Reminds me of..
The Day After Tomorrow :)
Well.. I'm damned disappointed its not Cthulhu... but it does ring of Lovecraft mythos.
Of course, the real question is --- is it pissed because it didn't have a Capital One Visa Card?
Fynal_Fyre
2008-01-16, 03:23
Personally, I think Cloverfield's quite over-hyped, looks good to me, but I think the viral marketing surrounding it is a little.....over-the-top.
Like this ad:
Cloverfield's Toyota Ad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjwOFt7_Vf4) [Can't get the Embed to work :(]
But who knows, it's J.J Abrams's work after all, so we can expect SOME measure of quality, after all, you don't make an award-winning, multi-season drama series that looks like it was ripped off Tom Hanks's Castaway....
NoSanninWa
2008-01-16, 04:30
But then again, that was just a concept design. The actual monster (which I assume is the real one) is a whale mutation:
http://wayangtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/cloverfield-monster-picture.jpgHmm... Reminds me of..The Day After Tomorrow :)Actually it reminds me of a Korean movie called The Host. The monster in that movie looked very similar although much smaller. A lot smaller.
Sorry, I thought the Toyota ad was hilarious in the vein of Gahan Wilson or Charles Addams hilarious.
Aoie_Emesai
2008-01-16, 17:23
Actually it reminds me of a Korean movie called The Host. The monster in that movie looked very similar although much smaller. A lot smaller.
Oh, don't get me started with that movie. I just thought it was absolutely horrible >.<
I haven't seen the monster from CloverField yet, so I can't do the comparison just yet.
Daughter!
2008-01-16, 17:52
Oh, don't get me started with that movie. I just thought it was absolutely horrible >.<
I haven't seen the monster from CloverField yet, so I can't do the comparison just yet.
It wasn't supposed to be good or serious...
Aoie_Emesai
2008-01-16, 18:02
It wasn't supposed to be good or serious...
Yeah, i know but even for corny movies, it can be better. I suppose it's just my idealist views >.<
anti-random
2008-01-17, 03:21
I have just saw the movie. Its awesome. The camera really adds a lot to the film. However, I found the film to be excellently made but the ending left me want to know (I'll put it in the spoiler)
Does the monster die?
Also, yes you do see the monster full on. And no it doesn't look like NoSanninWa's picture.
NoSanninWa
2008-01-17, 03:27
Also, yes you do see the monster full on. And no it doesn't look like NoSanninWa's picture.Hey! I was just quoting Kotaku; it's not my picture. Though I'm really happy to hear it doesn't look like that.
anti-random
2008-01-17, 03:30
No I didn't mean to be offence, I just saying it looks nothing like it. The monster's more humanoid. But it got a couple of limbs (about 4-6) but pretty sure its 4. It survived a shit load and when you see the movie you'll know what I mean.
Some reviews have already gone up on Flixter and quite a few of them mention the awful shakiness of the hand-held camera and motion sickness. :( I think I will wait until the DVD for this one. But it sounds like an interesting monster movie.
Just watched the movie, and yes, it was a great movie.
Some reviews have already gone up on Flixter and quite a few of them mention the awful shakiness of the hand-held camera and motion sickness. :( I think I will wait until the DVD for this one. But it sounds like an interesting monster movie.
Yeah, there is ALOT of shaking, so if you've got motion sickness, I suggest you um... Do something about it before watching it. It was really bad at first, for me anyway, but after 10-15 minutes I got use to it.
The whole movie was great... From the start until pretty much when the helicopter crash-landed. I found it really stupid how all three of them somehow managed to survive the crash-landing with minor injuries.
It ended really suddenly, but I guess it's kind of realistic if you think about it; the person holding the camera dies, and the movie ends. Even so, if they added a little bit of information, like showing a short news report on what exactly happened, what the monster was, and the aftermath, it would have made alot of the viewers more happy, that's what I think anyway.
Also had the worst characters to be the last ones left alive, Rob and that whiny crying b^&*h that was there for 1/4 of the movie, Beth.
Overall a great movie until the end!
My rating - 8.8/10. Would have been 9.#/10 if it had a proper ending.
ChibiMenos
2008-01-17, 16:11
Just watched the movie, and yes, it was a great movie.
Yeah, there is ALOT of shaking, so if you've got motion sickness, I suggest you um... Do something about it before watching it. It was really bad at first, for me anyway, but after 10-15 minutes I got use to it.
The whole movie was great... From the start until pretty much when the helicopter crash-landed. I found it really stupid how all three of them somehow managed to survive the crash-landing with minor injuries.
It ended really suddenly, but I guess it's kind of realistic if you think about it; the person holding the camera dies, and the movie ends. Even so, if they added a little bit of information, like showing a short news report on what exactly happened, what the monster was, and the aftermath, it would have made alot of the viewers more happy, that's what I think anyway.
Also had the worst characters to be the last ones left alive, Rob and that whiny crying b^&*h that was there for 1/4 of the movie, Beth.
Overall a great movie until the end!
My rating - 8.8/10. Would have been 9.#/10 if it had a proper ending.
So there isn't even anything after the credits to wrap it all up at the end? Hm. Might be frustrating for me to watch, then., but I really want to see it...
anti-random
2008-01-17, 17:31
Not really. That why I said that we will never know if the monster survives or not. Saphyre's idea of a short news report or some government information at the end of the tape would have left the viewers happy.
So there isn't even anything after the credits to wrap it all up at the end? Hm. Might be frustrating for me to watch, then., but I really want to see it...
Nope, there wasn't. We waited until the end too :(
anti-random
2008-01-17, 20:12
At the end there is some weird noise. We went to the internet and it send that when you rewind it you here "its still alive". We did just that and its true. The damn monster is still alive.
All hail the inevitable sequels.... maybe next time more of the instant-journalists recording the event will have steady-cams on their cellphones/cams/whatever. :)
Demongod86
2008-01-17, 23:44
Hey people, just wondering if any of you are still interested in this movie?
Now some people have said that the monster is Cthulu from H.P. Lovecraft, which unfortunately it isn't. Originally, I thought the same having seen this image:
http://www.quickstopentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/toybox_112806_3.jpg
But then again, that was just a concept design. The actual monster (which I assume is the real one) is a whale mutation:
http://wayangtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/cloverfield-monster-picture.jpg
Where it has minions, crabs that attack normal people. Simply enough just go onto Google Image search for Cloverfield and you can find a lot of stuff.
The only downside to this is the handheld cameras, Blair Witch was watchable, Transformers had moving cameras during most action scenes, which made it terrible to focus on what was going on.
Hopefully this should be a good movie, the Japanese Slushie! site was meant to be giving off all these clues, but even so, they might as well just focus on the movie instead of all these viral marketing. :p
Is anyone else besides me reminded of Sin from FFX by that second picture?
Man, I'd doublecast Ultima that thing to hell...or just summon Anima and cast Oblivion on it.
Aoie_Emesai
2008-01-18, 00:53
Is anyone else besides me reminded of Sin from FFX by that second picture?
Man, I'd doublecast Ultima that thing to hell...or just summon Anima and cast Oblivion on it.
No, it's a mutated blue whale ^^, lol, that's what it looks like.
Actually, I just rewatched the movie on my friend's computer. At the end there is some weird noise. We went to the internet and it send that when you rewind it you here "its still alive". We did just that and its true. The damn monster is still alive.
Oh really? That's interesting. Guess I'll look around for a wave file or something cause I actually want to hear it myself :D
The movie made me dizzy with all those camera movements :nod:. Still, the movie was really good. The whole thing was also very mysterious and the monster....was ugly (go figure). I still can't make up what kind it is but it looks more like a chameleon with spider legs. And yeah, it look like something that came out from an RPG game :blush:. Oh, I didn't see it but they said that in the end....
When they're showing the last few minutes of the camera where the couple was spending their happy moments together, a UFO fell to the sea. I didn't see it but was it true?
anti-random
2008-01-18, 18:00
Actually all you see is a blur on the screen behind them. People are assuming that its the monster when it was small.
But seriously how can that thing survive about fifty missile strikes and a nuclear bomb.
Daughter!
2008-01-18, 20:08
Oh really? That's interesting. Guess I'll look around for a wave file or something cause I actually want to hear it myself :D
Nice job not posting his quote as a spoiler and ruining the movie for me. Just kidding.
It was very good, very well done. I need to look into all these 'secret' things a bit more.
Nice job not posting his quote as a spoiler and ruining the movie for me. Just kidding.
It was very good, very well done. I need to look into all these 'secret' things a bit more.
:uhoh: Sorry, he didn't put it in a spoiler so I didn't think I'd need to quote it in a spoiler T_T
Spoiler tags are appreciated because not everyone sees a movie on the opening weekend. I heard the NPR critic review the movie today and he managed to give his opinion without giving away any major plot points, eh?
The reviews I'm hearing and seeing are mixed -- but its probably good fun if you can stand the shaky-cam which I consider a one-trick pony that is "no longer In".
The Undertaker
2008-01-18, 22:34
Here's a sketch and gif of the real Cloverfield monster. Do not click if you do not want to be spoiled~!
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=730gcrbeh8.gif
http://img254.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7ycdbuqdy8.jpg
Here's my 20-word review typed from a cell phone:
Review: Cloverfield. Too much Hollywood ruins a promising concept, sadly. Improbable plot twists. Unrewarding. 9/11 images poached.
Daughter!
2008-01-18, 23:56
Spoiler tags are appreciated because not everyone sees a movie on the opening weekend. I heard the NPR critic review the movie today and he managed to give his opinion without giving away any major plot points, eh?
The reviews I'm hearing and seeing are mixed -- but its probably good fun if you can stand the shaky-cam which I consider a one-trick pony that is "no longer In".
It's not a one trick pony. You feel so much more human with the guy holding the camera, as opposed to a regular multiple shot film. Emotions from the characters are conveyed much better with the camera. Instead of feeling like God, you feel vulnerable. There's a reason they used it.
NoSanninWa
2008-01-19, 01:18
Just saw the movie.
Review: Cloverfield. Too much Hollywood ruins a promising concept, sadly. Improbable plot twists. Unrewarding. 9/11 images poached.It has improbable plot twists? Heck, I didn't even know it had plot!
Seriously, it might not have had plot or much characterization, but it was brilliant at making the viewer feel what it would be like to try to struggle for life in the middle of a giant monster attack. They didn't just use the hand held cam as a gimmick, they used it to create a first person viewpoint in the middle of a catastrophe. Never did we have the feeling of safety that comes from having a camera external to the characters which would have distanced us from the action. In that respect and in the way they used it so well, the movie was very well done.
You say that "Hollywood ruins a promising concept," but perhaps you thought that the movie was about the monster. If so, then you were mistaken. The actual concept was beautifully executed.
Wouldn't it be even scarier if they decided to make a 3D version of the movie and display at IMAX like Beowulf? :uhoh: It'd make it even more real and terrifying, putting viewers in the midst of the catastrophe.
I remember seeing the trailer for the first time during Transformers and thinking it was an alien invasion. I'm a bit disappointed now that I know it's a monster.
All in all though, worth $20 to go see?
NoSanninWa
2008-01-19, 03:03
All in all though, worth $20 to go see?Hell no! Go see it at a matinee. It's good, but not 20 dollars worth of good.
Yeah... definitely matinee -- my attitude towards a movie always is tougher if I have to pay evening prices.
I'm probably going to *try* and see it on condition I can get a refund if the movie shaky-cam makes me nauseated. I want to see it... if only because its probably as close to a Cthulhu festival as I'm ever going to get from film makers.
Its wierd, I can fly aircraft, ride any amusement terror ride, train in military flight simulators, bounce around in zero-g .... but a few moments of shaky-cam and I'm looking for the escape button. Head-bobbing FPSs also give me a headache after an hour or so (prefer the ones that will let me turn that 'feature' off).
The point-of-view that the movie portrays is not entirely unique but interesting --- rather like the War of the Worlds (radio, movie 1, movie 2) executed in a personalized way.
It was pretty decent. I was entertained. There's an easter egg at the end of the credits. Not sure if this was posted, already but...
...it's a radio message. If you play it in reverse it says: "It's still alive".
RWBladewing
2008-01-19, 10:53
It was pretty decent. I was entertained. There's an easter egg at the end of the credits. Not sure if this was posted, already but...
...it's a radio message. If you play it in reverse it says: "It's still alive".
Yeah, I saw it yesterday and stayed through the end of the credits. I thought it was just feedback from the theater's sound system. Wasn't until after I got back and started reading about it that I realized what it really was.
Overall great movie, very intense. I found the first-person style quite effective at making the viewer feel like they were there and also pretty unique; even if it has been done before it is still very rare and a huge change of pace from most movies. There were some scenes I wished I had a clearer view of but then I reminded myself that would have defeated the entire purpose.
On another note: Wow, $20? Prime-time ticket prices here are only 8.50, guess I should consider myself lucky.
I liked this movie, yet I didn't... and it's hard to explain why. I was not upset with the ending as it was basically foreshadowed from the opening scene, the camera was annoying for the first 15 minutes or so but was necessary for the movie. Maybe I didn't like it because the movie was basically a love story with monsters sprinkled and I wanted to see more monsters :frustrated: even though I know it would take away from the movie.
Maybe I'm just a JJ Abrams hater, I haven't seen lost but I've of course heard about it, what makes his work interesting is that he leaves a lot of unanswered questions, and really plays to everyones curiousity of the unknown and likes to keep it that way, unknown.
Some parts reminded me of War of the Worlds.
The monster at the end that killed Hud had to be a different one then the one that was shown getting bombed on the news, it just seemed much smaller.
It would be interesting if the those small monsters that were falling off the big one were able to grow to that size in 7 hours or so.
Demongod86
2008-01-19, 19:01
By the sound of it, it seems the director completely failed in the movie's goal which was to give America its own monster icon. The story goes that he took his son to the toy store, saw Godzilla action figures, and realized that America doesn't have its own kaiju. So rather than make the movie about a well-defined kaiju, he made it about a bunch of people running from some vague almost formless kaiju.
And so America is still left without its own Godzilla.
the.Merines
2008-01-19, 19:46
I saw the first showing (matinee, only $6.50 ftw) and was fully satisfied with the movie. I'm more interested now in trying to piece together a timeline of the events leading up to the attack (from the viral videos and websites). :heh:
Demongod86
2008-01-19, 19:49
Can you draw the best rendition you can come up with of the monster?
Slice of Life
2008-01-19, 20:12
By the sound of it, it seems the director completely failed in the movie's goal which was to give America its own monster icon. The story goes that he took his son to the toy store, saw Godzilla action figures, and realized that America doesn't have its own kaiju.
So it is said. But if I may add another theory: The guy simply sat in his armchair and suddenly had an idea that could give him some bucks. More plausible if you ask me, and perfectly legitimate, but doesn't sound as good in the ears of the targeted audience as stories that revolve around kids and America. Which, in turn, might greatly affect his very goal. And if my theory is right, then I think he has achieved his goal. :)
ooo ooo ooo!!
butterfly!!!!
Aoie_Emesai
2008-01-19, 23:11
Just saw it today. I saw the over hype for Cloverfield and I went to see it too, and it wasn't disappointing at all. The monster was pretty creepy and lots of Military fighting ^^.
Did ya see the monster fall from the sky at the very last scene, the monster was at the right falling from the sky like a comet and splashing down ^^
Li Jianliang
2008-01-19, 23:55
I was disappointed by the lack of gore in the film, or rather, the split-seconds that the camera dwelt on the available gore. After having done quite a few dissections and handling a dead body in my life, very few physiological things can ever unsettle me now...
Also, the camera work was very dizzy at times. I'm highly susceptible to motion sickness and watching the film gave me a headache.
Generic Asian Guy
2008-01-20, 00:17
Also, the camera work was very dizzy at times. I'm highly susceptible to motion sickness and watching the film gave me a headache.
Same =[
Oh gosh, I don't want to watch this movie anymore... *flashback to Blair Witch Project in theatres*
But, I'm still curious as to what this film's meaning is...so I'll probably watch it on a small screen (when it comes out on DVD), with a paper bag at hand.
Same =[
Oh gosh, I don't want to watch this movie anymore... *flashback to Blair Witch Project in theatres*
But, I'm still curious as to what this film's meaning is...so I'll probably watch it on a small screen (when it comes out on DVD), with a paper bag at hand.
It was a love story.
Did ya see the monster fall from the sky at the very last scene, the monster was at the right falling from the sky like a comet and splashing down ^^
It definitely is a monster because if you took a closer look you could see the leg shape (which is really long). I knew there's something fishy when they have the camera taping the sea. I still didn't catch the last part with the sounds and then you hear "It's still alive"
Maybe I didn't like it because the movie was basically a love story with monsters sprinkled and I wanted to see more monsters
Yeah tell me about it, I hate love stories in these kind of movies... Reminds me of AVP:R ~_~.
*Trying not to read spoilers!!
I'm going to see it tonight :)
ApostleOfGod
2008-01-20, 13:29
Isn't the movie all like on camera of the New Yorkers about to die?
i just saw cloverfield yesterday i thought the movie was... a waste of my time and i want my money back lol, i fell asleep but my friend keep waking me up in the middle of the action parts and i hated them for that -_-
the movie was moving wayyy to much hurts my eyes, i dont really like movies like that
Daughter!
2008-01-20, 13:33
i just saw cloverfield yesterday i thought the movie was... a waste of my time and i want my money back lol, i fell asleep but my friend keep waking me up in the middle of the action parts and i hated them for that -_-
the movie was moving wayyy to much hurts my eyes, i dont really like movies like that
Well, whose fault is it that they can't enjoy it? Maybe you're argument would hold more merit if you had one.
mario1234
2008-01-20, 15:17
I'm actually prone to getting motion sickness in long car rides and such, and I was fine in this movie...
Regardless...I was let down by one thing: The goddamn love story.
You're in the middle of a monster attack in NYC and the military tells you it's stupid to go back to the city to save your girlfriend...so what do you do? Hang your friends and brother out to dry while you go rescue some dumb bitch?
Give me a freaking break.
That is more unrealistic than a monster attack, as far as I'm concerned.
Other than that much, the monster was cool (although that whale-like concept is better, IMO), there could've been more gore (but it was passable as is), the ending was abrupt (but apparently the monster falls into the ocean...so if that's really true, then that makes the ending better, IMO).
Also....
Yeah, at the end it's a radio thing saying "it's still alive backwards.
Also, when I was watching the movie, I thought the main monster ate Hud, but then come to think of it...all the planes were flying by them, probably to get the bigger one. So now I really don't think it was the main monster that got Hud.
And whether or not the main monster is still alive....I doubt it is, since they did the hammer-down. But maybe Rob was saying that the second monster was still alive?
And thus, one thing I like about this movie is that there is a LOT to discuss about it. That doesn't happen too often.
Regardless...I was let down by one thing: The goddamn love story.
You're in the middle of a monster attack in NYC and the military tells you it's stupid to go back to the city to save your girlfriend...so what do you do? Hang your friends and brother out to dry while you go rescue some dumb bitch?
Give me a freaking break.
That is more unrealistic than a monster attack, as far as I'm concerned.
Clearly you have not fallen in love before, then.
the.Merines
2008-01-20, 18:22
I find the main characters going back into the city mostly believable...
Rob goes back because he loves Beth. They've been best friends for years and he's had feelings for her since college. He said some pretty shitty stuff to her at the party, and it's obvious that affected his train of thought. That much, I can believe.
Lily goes with him because her boyfriend/fiancee, Rob's brother, has just died. Rather than leave the city on her own, with no support (which would arguably be just as scary for some people), she chooses to go with Rob, someone she knows and trusts. It's the same deal with Hud. It's made clear during the party that Hud depends on Rob a lot. Of course he's going to continue depending on Rob in this difficult situation. Marlena is a bit less believable, since we know she had plans to hang out with some other friends after leaving Rob's the party. But we must remember that she was in a very shocked state after initially seeing the monster.
With Beth's call coming at an inopportune time (just before Rob's brother dies), everyone was in a numbed and shocked state of mind.
As for the thing that falls into the sea... I missed it. :upset: Totally didn't see it.
If anyone followed the viral marketing stuff, a lot of the story about the monster is "kind of" explained. Rob and Beth spend the day at Coney Island on April 24th (I think, it was sometime in late April). According to the viral stuff, that was a Tagruato satellite which had been launched during a lightning storm the previous November. What is has to do with the monster, I don't know. Maybe it was just one more thing to link the viral online stuff to the movie.
Tagruato is the parent company of SLUSHO!. The corporation has a number of oil platforms around the Cloverfield world, the newest being the Churai rig in the north Atlantic, which started operation in the September prior to the movie. The viral videos seem to suggest that the secret ingredient for the Slusho drink (called Seabed's Nectar) was being mined from deep underneath the ocean. Slusho is said to have a number of special qualities, from increased strength to smoother skin, among others.
In the meantime, a group of anti-oil "eco-terrorists" called TIDOwave manage to sneak one of their members onboard the Churai. This is Teddy, the ex-boyfriend of Jamie, who is seen during the movie's party scene passed out on a couch. While her role in the movie is minimal, in a series of passworded movies on her "website," she laments about her loss of contact with her then boyfriend. She even receives an early Christmas present from him.
However, because of his unwillingness or inability to return her phone calls, TXT messages and emails, she opens the present early, on December 9th. Inside the box is a sealed plastic baggie marked "do not eat" and a tape recording. In the recording, he tells her that there is some kind of conspiracy going on onboard the Churai oil rig, and she is not to contact the officials or the media if he disappears, as that would worsen the situation. Naturally, she interprets this as a cowardly excuse for him breaking up with her. In anger, she opens the baggie and tastes the contents, proclaiming that it's really good. In the next video, she appears in an altered state of mind, doing some weird dance. In the final video, she is full of energy and enthusiasm about that night's party (Rob's going away party). It appears that Teddy sent her a small amount of the unrefined, undiluted Seabed's Nectar.
There are three separate videos of the Churai oil platform's destruction, which occurs on December 27th. The first is from a helicopter which hovers over the rig as its huge support beams are snapped (in a separate"interview," a German engineer who works for the company that designed the rig says that it is physically impossible to do such a thing), causing the platform to collapse into the water. Onboard the helicopter is a Japanese man in a business suit who tightly holds a black suitcase (which is also chained to his arm). He seems angered when the camera turns on him.
The second video is from an emergency raft as it speeds away from the collapsing rig. Although all modern oil platforms have devices onboard which can keep it afloat for up to 24 hours, it sinks in a matter of seconds. The monster's roar is heard, and then bits and pieces of the rig are flung high into the air. One of the pieces slams into the raft as the video cuts out. The third video is from the inside of the platform as the attack happens. Scientists and workers struggle to find a way out before the video cuts out abruptly. One thing to mention about both the second and third videos is the presence of members from Tagruato's paramilitary.
Tagruato issues a press statement on January third, after the videos surface, claiming that there was no confirmed loss of life in the incident, which is an obvious lie and proof that the corporation is trying to cover up whatever they were doing at Churai.
Sonar images were sent via email to people who had registered at Slusho!'s site, which apparently track the monster's movement.
What is boils down to is this: Tagruato is directly involved with the monster's awakening. They make it seem like the monster had been living on the "Seabed's Nectar" deep under the bottom of the north Atlantic, and was disturbed by the drilling operations. Whether Tagruato monitored/experimented on the monster, or whether it was simply discovered, isn't clear yet. People seem to think that the viral marketing will continue until May, when the monster attacks, so we may get an even more clear look at what really happened.
And yes, I had too much time on my hands this weekend.
anti-random
2008-01-20, 19:02
the.Merines, that is some great stuff. I never actually pieced up the viral marketing like that.
the.Merines
2008-01-20, 19:34
There's quite a bit more... >.< I just hit the highlights.
For example, a Norwegian oil tanker that went missing east of the Churai platform, but I haven't been able to find a date for the disappearance. There's a naval battle between the monster and the US Navy, though it's unclear whether it occurs before or after the monster's landfall. I would assume before; that kind of helps explain how the military was in place so quickly. Also, though it's not specifically mentioned in the movie, Rob is going to Japan to work as the VP of Marketing for SLUSHO!'s North American ad campaign, even though the drink isn't approved by the FDA.
edit: I'll just answer here rather than post again. Like I said, everything I wrote is my personal speculation based on the viral videos and websites. I didn't really pay much attention to the character's MySpace pages because there wasn't much info related to the monster there. There's no direct info on the origin of the monster. It's not even known if it came from underneath the ocean floor or fell from space in the video.
anti-random
2008-01-20, 19:36
What do you mean by more? Do we know how the monsters made. Is it like Slusho cause mutations or something. But how can the monster be awaken if we saw it in April if the station thing is opened in September.
mario1234
2008-01-20, 20:42
@ the.Merines:
Well, sure, I can understand all of the characters....except Rob. I can even understand Marlena, as she was probably drunk and such...
Cause with Hud, he knows Rob and his other friends are alive, and he wants to be by their side at all times.
Rob, on the other hand, knows Beth is badly hurt and probably dead, yet risks his life and the life of his friends just so he can see her again.
I really have a hard time believing it.
I read somewhere that a prequel manga is in the works anybody else heard anything about this?
Aoie_Emesai
2008-01-20, 20:53
I read somewhere that a prequel manga is in the works anybody else heard anything about this?
Humm... now is there? I haven't heard of anything like that just yet.
psycho bolt
2008-01-20, 21:07
Speculation from this site says the thing falling down was a satelite of some sort. I'm not sure if its true, just speculation.
mario1234
2008-01-20, 21:09
Here is some info on the manga:
A four installment manga series by Yoshiki Togawa titled Cloverfield/Kishin (クローバーフィールド／ＫＩＳＨＩＮ, Kurōbāfīrudo/KISHIN?) is being released by Japanese publisher Kadokawa Shoten.[33] The story focuses on a Japanese high school student named Kishin and will be a prequel to the film.[34]
Source- wikipedia.
But alas, before you denounce wikipedia as an awful source (like everyone seems to nowadays), here are some links it provides:
link to the manga (http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/tachiyomi/comic/cloverfield/_SWF_Window.html)
My Otaku translation of the first 16 pages (http://myotaku.com/users/chikumavampire/)
the.Merines
2008-01-20, 21:10
I read somewhere that a prequel manga is in the works anybody else heard anything about this?
Yes...
original: http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/tachiyomi/comic/cloverfield/
pretty bad quality translation: http://merzmensch.blogspot.com/2008/01/cloverfield-manga.html
Supposedly there are four parts, with this being #1.
edit: bah, beaten. :P
Ok found the manga.
http://picasaweb.google.com/dennisacevedo/CloverfieldKishinMangaPart1
Dang you guys are fast. :o
ChibiMenos
2008-01-21, 01:36
I'm going to go see it tomorrow, I hope it's as good as everyone has been saying! :)
Clearly you have not fallen in love before, then.
Seems that way. If someone called me asking for help in a situation like that, and I really, really, really cared about them...I think I'd go back for them, rather than saving myself. I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror after that. Knowing I let them die all alone.
Ultima_Rasengan05
2008-01-21, 06:01
since the manga is a prequel to the movie, how does it fit in?? I've seen the manga, but couldn't really translate the words properly, but it seems that the boy getting bullied might have something to do with the monster...or somehow is tied to the thrashing of New York....so far the first chapter is pretty vague, but in the ending, we see something deep in the ocean wake up though...
I have seen the movie and I enjoyed it...not really worth the hype, but it was still good. There were a lot of questions left after the movie and so did the little things that could be seen and heard at the end of the movie and the credits. The whole
Slusho! and TIDO thing still has me confused...but it seems whatever they are trying to do with the publicity of this movie, it sure is working and making people who have seen this movie want more out of it.
kimchipride
2008-01-21, 22:29
I watched the film today. Here comes my opinion!
*ahem
That was the one of the best movies I've EVER seen in my entire life. To those who want are interested in watching the movie. DONT SPOIL INFORMATION ON YOURSELF. Part of which makes this movie SO good is because of the stuff the monster can do. Also, you start to develop a connection with the characters and you feel like you're with them. You feel for them when all these terrible things are happening.
Watch the movie. Please.
It's such an awesome movie that should be watched in theatres. It will enhance the experience.
ChibiMenos
2008-01-22, 01:15
I just got back...
It was AWESOME.
Even the characters that weren't particularly likable, there was still a connection with them, and I loved getting to see everything they saw rather than wondering what was going on off-screen. And the ending was much better than I expected--it tied things back to the beginning pretty well.
The only thing I didn't quite like was
how Beth seemed in great shape at the end...well, compared to earlier anyway. I thought she was supposed to be really badly hurt?
Personally, I don't think it needs a sequel, but something short might be cool.
The only thing I didn't quite like was
how Beth seemed in great shape at the end...well, compared to earlier anyway. I thought she was supposed to be really badly hurt?
Personally, I don't think it needs a sequel, but something short might be cool.
Just like you said, she looks all right after getting stabbed through and through by a metal rod thing and getting pulled from it. I can't believe that she manage to run like that with that kind of injury. Oh btw, I was wondering if Lily ever survived. Because her chopper wasn't taken down like the others.
:topicoff: You gotta admire that video cam. After all that happen, it survives. I guess it was built for toughness? And the battery power seems to be really long too.
NoSanninWa
2008-01-22, 03:56
Battery power was not an issue. Obviously Hud turned off the camera from time to time since he only recorded about 80 minutes of footage. It is quite believable that the battery could have lasted for 80 minutes even though he turned on the light for a little while in the tunnel. It is mostly the light that worries me.
JubeiYamazaki
2008-01-22, 07:18
Good movie overall but I was left unsatisfied. Not with the ending but the entire.. I guess "the drive" of the film.
I was hoping to watch a 60 minute + survival epic. And not having the entire movie be about rescuing one person, then basically "dying". I would of enjoyed it way better if they just saved Beth in the first 20 minutes or whenever after the monster hits then just survive from there. Those parasite things sound like Donald Duck, whatever intimidating features they may have had went out the window as soon as they started making those sounds. I couldn't stop laughing.
Was it just me or did anybody else get motion sickness watching this movie? :eyebrow:
and yea, the name is missing an "r" in the title (typo)
kimchipride
2008-01-23, 03:14
I don't understand how people got sick after watching this movie.
It wasn't that bad...
It wasn't that bad FOR YOU. Different people have different responses to motion miscues. When your inner ear canal says you're stationary and your eyeball inputs say things are rolling around --- many people get nauseated. When your eyeballs say the cabin is stationary while your ears feel the plane is in micro-turbulent motion -- many people get nauseated.
Not everyone gets nauseated every time and some people react differently to the same cues depending on other factors (have they eaten, do they have a cold, etc).
Usually shaky-cam doesn't bother me.. but occasionally it does. It *always* makes my wife ill (she can't even watch things like the 'rat down the storm pipes swirl' in Ratatouille). But fundamentally I find shaky-cam annoying and a substitute for good camera work. Yes, I understand the purpose for this film (immediacy, feels 'real', connection with the target audience).... shaky-cam was used during some battle sequences in LOTR for that up-close feel. But I still end up feeling annoyed to the point that I'll just stop watching it when they overuse it on the tv cop shows.
anti-random
2008-01-23, 05:14
You know, what i just didn't get about the army in the film is why didn't they use nerve gas. I mean clearly projectile weapons sucked.
GuidoHunter_Toki
2008-01-23, 12:41
Well I just want to state how much I loved this movie and of course my theory about the monster.
With the viral marketing they open up several websites; one for a japanese deep ocean mining company, another is for a japanese satellite company, and several Myspace profiles were also set up with the characters from the movie. They never logged in after 1-18-08.
Also, at the end of the movie, when they're playing the beach footage, you can see something plunging into the ocean. The satellite from that Japanese company. They hire the drilling company to go down and retrieve it, but by pulling it out, it awoke the monster which had originally lived deep inside an ocean trench. You'll notice that Hud talks about the origin of the monster and he mentions it coming from an ocean trench. Not a coincidence.
Also, at the beginning of the movie, you'll see Hud is wearing a Slusho shirt. It all ties in together.
Oh yeah and about Rob and his woman at the end of the movie, it's not a nuke that goes off, although the term that was used, "Hammer down," is one that indicates the use of a nuclear warhead. Rob's still alive after he says the "It's still alive" line at the end of the credits.
Well thats my theory about the movie.
Well I just want to state how much I loved this movie and of course my theory about the monster.
With the viral marketing they open up several websites; one for a japanese deep ocean mining company, another is for a japanese satellite company, and several Myspace profiles were also set up with the characters from the movie. They never logged in after 1-18-08.
Also, at the end of the movie, when they're playing the beach footage, you can see something plunging into the ocean. The satellite from that Japanese company. They hire the drilling company to go down and retrieve it, but by pulling it out, it awoke the monster which had originally lived deep inside an ocean trench. You'll notice that Hud talks about the origin of the monster and he mentions it coming from an ocean trench. Not a coincidence.
Also, at the beginning of the movie, you'll see Hud is wearing a Slusho shirt. It all ties in together.
Oh yeah and about Rob and his woman at the end of the movie, it's not a nuke that goes off, although the term that was used, "Hammer down," is one that indicates the use of a nuclear warhead. Rob's still alive after he says the "It's still alive" line at the end of the credits.
Well thats my theory about the movie.
How do you know it was his voice?
You know, what i just didn't get about the army in the film is why didn't they use nerve gas. I mean clearly projectile weapons sucked.
But didn't they use some kind of nerve gas? I thought it was in the movie.
I disliked Hud. :p
However, I did enjoy the film - shaky video and all. :D Concept was interesting and the characters were realistic enough. The plot was really lacking, but then do most home-recorded videos have a plot?
I believe that it was worth the money to go and watch it in a cinema.
GuidoHunter_Toki
2008-01-24, 12:13
How do you know it was his voice?
I'm just speculating it as if it was him due to the fact it kind of sounded like his voice. Of course it could have very just been military radio chatter.
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