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Well, ep17 was just released and like the ep16 preview noted, theres a change of pace. I thought this ep was pretty interesting, it was nice seeing how Sakura and Asakura were related in the past. The "young" Sakura was too cute and adorable ^^. At the end, I didn't notice that something happened between Asakura and Sakura and I wouldn't have realized it if I didn't watch the ep18 preview. After seeing the preview, I really wanna see the next ep. Even with the change of pace, I'm still really enjoying this series.
the past 15 episode has been fun to watch but it almost drove me away from finishing it. But with ep 16 and 17 the pace is changing and its getting good. I cant wait to see what happenes next. Wonder how Sakura would look is she was more mature :D Still i'm all for Nemu
brightman
2003-11-08, 23:04
Yeah, as I said a while back, they've finally moved on to the storyline... And I think it'll get pretty interesting from now on now that they finally go into the romance and the mysticism that they hinted at but didn't do much on earlier on.
But yeah, Nemu'll probably be the winner...
I know Nemu isn't blood related to Asakura but with Sakura being cousins with him is really awkward. Don't they know its wrong to have an physical relationship with each other. Other then that I agree with other previous posts I'm really glad the story is finally moving.
ElvenPath
2003-11-09, 08:45
DC is ok but the side storys get pretty annoying, it shortens the episode.
bluemist
2003-11-09, 09:11
Oh great, just when I had stopped downloading Da Capo... then a (long awaited) plot appears.
I'm just at episode 12, so I'll be far behind I guess...
Anlushac11
2003-11-09, 09:26
Sorry, I am easy to please.
Da Capo is currently one of my top 3 favorite animes. I love the characters and the comedy of it, and I also like the side stories. Miharu and Yoriko and Moe-chan are my favorites.
brightman
2003-11-09, 10:33
Yeah the sidestories I've learned to appreciate a bit too... They are so mysterious and surreal and give off such a unique feel... And some of them are pretty funny or have some pretty nice twists.
All the side stories with that stupid cat man really annoy me, but the ones without him like the one with Miharu surfing the net was really funny.
SimplyEd
2003-11-09, 18:04
I just want to remark that this anime is one shining example for the fact that a show doesn't need a forced plot to be entertaining and i actually don't like the thought that Da Capo recently seems to concentrate its potential on Junichi,Nemu and Sakura.
Ah well,let's see how it will work out :)
Personally, I like Da Capo either way, it doesnt matter to me if there was a consistent plot or not, as long as there's something there to enjoy. I really wish those side episodes weren't there though, it would give the "main" episode a lot more time, rather than filling up 6 mins of one or a few of the girls doing nothing interesting and some weird cat-monster thing.
ElvenPath
2003-11-09, 18:53
Hmm what i still don't understand is where does Asakura's dream vision capacity fit in the plot.
Wolfwood2970
2003-11-09, 20:14
Da Capo is a great anime i have to admit
It does have a couple filler eps but its still good and i loved episode 16 and 17 where it gets REAL interesting
I feel really bad for Sakura for the situation she is put in
im really looking foward to the next episode
The thing that annoys me are those stupid Side Stories... They are slow moving and tedious.... Its basically just the Da Capo characters doing the most mundane things ever and then there is that stupid black cat with the human body.... Serious but what is that stupid black cat supposed to represent it just looks incredibly dumb... I think the side episodes are just a way to lengthen the series even more than it should be. It dissapoints me to watch the side eps because the regular eps are so interesting then the side episodes just cuts its time
Oh well i thought also that the songs in the first like 8 eps was a waste of time too... More the reason why i DLed the RB version for the first like 7 eps because i kinda thought the songs were dumb and was just a space filler......
Anyways all in truth Da Capo truly is a great series but not one of the best anime ive ever seen.... For it does have fillers and it does have those stupid Side stories and such
Go-lytely
2003-11-09, 22:08
The side eps were mostly strange in the beginning but I am enjoying them as of late. The Miharu one was funny, and I actually was scared by the trenchcoat cat in the last one.
I know Nemu isn't blood related to Asakura but with Sakura being cousins with him is really awkward. Don't they know its wrong to have an physical relationship with each other. Other then that I agree with other previous posts I'm really glad the story is finally moving.Keitarou-san, the world is a very big place and not everyone has a same view of things as yours. You are talking from your own cultural aspect. You just need to expand your horizon of things such as by going places (outside of US), reading books, or talking to people from other culture.
I was wondering when DaCapo will get serious...Looking forward to the next episode...Also, why dont they just make a 20 minutes episode instead of 15 minutes and then fill it up with those short episodes...
Keitaru-san, the world is a very big place and not everyone has a same view of things as yours. You are talking from your own cultural aspect. You just need to expand your horizon of things such as by going places (outside of US), reading books, or talking to people from other culture.
I was wondering when DaCapo will get serious...Looking forward to the next episode...Also, why dont they just make a 20 minutes episode instead of 15 minutes and then fill it up with those short episodes...
You are right, but I was simply stating my opinion on their relationship. I understand the world is a huge place with many different cultures and customs. In fact marrying your cousin is legal here in the U.S in 26 states, and in other countries including Japan.
F.Y.I its Keitarou not Keitaru
You are right, but I was simply stating my opinion on their relationship. I understand the world is a huge place with many different cultures and customs. In fact marrying your cousin is legal here in the U.S in 26 states, and in other countries including Japan.
F.Y.I its Keitarou not KeitaruGlad to see you think that way too and I should know that already because I myself live in NY:D. Gomen, to get your name wrong..I have edited my original post...Friends?
Glad to see you think that way too and I should know that already because I myself live in NY:D. Gomen, to get your name wrong..I have edited my original post...Friends?
no problem
Wandering_Youth
2003-11-10, 02:24
In Soldats' version Suginami keeps calling Yoriko a swindler? What's up with that? What do the other fansubs show Suginami calling Yoriko?
Anlushac11
2003-11-10, 06:47
In Soldats' version Suginami keeps calling Yoriko a swindler? What's up with that? What do the other fansubs show Suginami calling Yoriko?
I thought he called Yoriko a swindler because he thought she was trying to run some scam by presenting herself as a maid yet could not cook, clean, grocery shop, or do laundry without destroying something. But Yuusuke gave her a chance and she has tried very hard. However she is going through dishes at an alarming rate.
I thought he called Yoriko a swindler because he thought she was trying to run some scam by presenting herself as a maid yet could not cook, clean, grocery shop, or do laundry without destroying something. But Yuusuke gave her a chance and she has tried very hard. However she is going through dishes at an alarming rate.
Yep thats probably what he meant by that. By the way who is Yuusuke in this anime?
brightman
2003-11-10, 09:19
lol... Yuusuke... :D
Then again all the main characters in these kinds of series look and act the same so I don't blame Anlushac11...
Hmm what i still don't understand is where does Asakura's dream vision capacity fit in the plot.
Umm, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Is this something from the game? or do I just not understand what you're talking about.
lol... Yuusuke... :D
Then again all the main characters in these kinds of series look and act the same so I don't blame Anlushac11...
Hearing Midori scream "Yuuusuke-kun!!!" in a high pitched voice every time she sees Yuusuke can pound that name into anyone's head :bash:
Umm, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Is this something from the game? or do I just not understand what you're talking about.
He can see other people's dreams. I think he's just asking if the plot will take any use of this ability of his or it's just random stuff thrown into the mix, like his ability to make sweets.
Umm, I'm not sure what you're talking about here. Is this something from the game? or do I just not understand what you're talking about.
Hearing Midori scream "Yuuusuke-kun!!!" in a high pitched voice every time she sees Yuusuke can pound that name into anyone's head :bash:
Hes talking about Asakuras dream thing, a few time in the series it looks like he can see someone elses dreams like when he dreamt Nemu wearing his shirts, I forgot which episde it was. Also, in animenfo descrpition it say he can see into others dreams and create candy in his hand. Episode 16 and 17 is another example of it
lol thats true, all the lead male charaters all seem to be alike in a strange short of way so I don't blame him for it.
Hayamaneko
2003-11-13, 18:34
dunno about the rest of you, but I loooooved the side ep for episode 17 :love:. gotta love Yoriko-chan in all here kawaii-ness :D
Nemu and Asakura finally confess their feelings to each other in ep 18, how nice they even kiss.lol I wonder what will Asakuras parents say about this when they get back home. I guess its alright considering they're actually not blood related. I feel sorry for Sakura, she finally explains why she doesnt grow, it was because of that big cherry blossom tree that grants wishes. This is getting interesting now....
Yeah, it seems like they've moved right into the romance with Nemu and Juunichi, while I thought it was quite obvious at the beginning that Nemu and Juunichi would end up as a couple, this is much sooner than I expected, and I'm pretty interested in how it's gonna turn out now. I think there's a couple of ways to approach this situation, and there seems to be a chance that there will be a different couple at the end. The topic that seems to be first in line to be resolved is how Nemu and Juunichi are going to go about either hiding or telling other people about their relationship.
bluemist
2003-11-14, 11:31
Hmm... would this be a lighthearted version of Kiminozo?
Any people here who has played the original game? Care to give some nice spoilers perhaps?
ZGMF-10A
2003-11-15, 01:59
but worst of all i feel sorry for the pink hair girl that sings songs...... she is so kawaii..... i can't believe that guy choose nemu over her...... :O
but worst of all i feel sorry for the pink hair girl that sings songs...... she is so kawaii..... i can't believe that guy choose nemu over her...... :O
You mean Kotori, I believe she had red hair. She is one of my favorite characters in DC, I hope she gets more screentime I havent seen her lately.
Shenlong
2003-11-15, 03:53
Episode 18 - That mushroom looked like a penis and I cringed when she pulled it out. That is all
BWahahaa! The side episode is funny as hell :D
ElvenPath
2003-11-15, 08:59
I hate the side episodes, i'd rather have them extend the actual episode.... haven't seen DC18 yet :o
Episode 18 - That mushroom looked like a penis and I cringed when she pulled it out. That is all
BWahahaa! The side episode is funny as hell :D
I didnt watch the side episode but I went back to check it out, lol it does kinda look like it. I cant believe she actually bit the mushroom without knowing what kind of mushroom it was, and she thought she turned into an giant.
Like AST I think they should of just extended the episode and do away with these side episodes.
Hmmm, the side episodes usually border on strange and weird, so I tend to skip them. The haunted house Nemu and Mako went into was quite freaky though. Especially the cat-headed guy. Never understood what his purpose was...
I'm pretty happy that they have -finally- come clean about their almost painfully obvious feelings.
I'm pretty sure that the couple will be the same at the end though, they don't have Nemu appearing at the end of the opening theme and only her appearing at the ending theme for nothing :D
I'll not settle for anything else - NO Sakura, as much as I feel pretty sorry for her. Well... maybe Kotori, because IMO her feelings seem the most realistic out of the rest, and because she does look good too ;)
By the way, does anyone know the title of the song Kotori sings towards the end of episode 10? And oh, anyone else noticed that the pink-headed mouse/cat/rabbit (can't remember atm) manages to appear in -every- episode?
This series is uniquely interesting, actually. It manages to incorporate romance, humour, fan service and a touch of literature-like stuff into one anime... Can't wait for the rest of the episodes!
Aqualung
2003-11-15, 23:17
I'm not on this forum that often, but I have a quick question. Does anyone happen to know if Rice Box is still working on Da Capo? I remember that there was some talk about them going under around a month ago, but they said that they were still alive. It's been awhile since they released episode 10. I really like Da Capo, but I'd hate to change groups just to see it all.
Aqualung
Copywrote
2003-11-16, 00:11
i checked out all the other da capo threads and i thought it just belonged in this one, i was just wondering which fansub group is doing a good job on this series? any suggestions? i was leaning towards soldats but then there is aone? im not sure which to choose from so can anyone help me out^^ greatly appreciated !
Anlushac11
2003-11-16, 00:28
Moe-chan ate the mushroom because she said that if you can tear the stem lengthwise they are non poisonous. But that still doesnt tell you if it is the fun kind. I lost it when her hand turned big. Reminded me of Futurama when Lur ate the hippie.
Sorry I am watching too much anime lately (is there such a thing as too much anime?) Having a hard time keeping some names straight.
Go-lytely
2003-11-16, 03:30
i checked out all the other da capo threads and i thought it just belonged in this one, i was just wondering which fansub group is doing a good job on this series? any suggestions? i was leaning towards soldats but then there is aone? im not sure which to choose from so can anyone help me out^^ greatly appreciated !
Go with Soldats. Their translations are very good.
I agree Soldats does a good job subbing it
Wolfwood2970
2003-11-16, 10:49
yeah Soldats does a good job with the translations but
Gah! i realized that episodes 18 and 19 came out already for the anbu version or whatever
im still patiently waiting for Soldats version but GAH! i want to see episode 18 badly oh well
brightman
2003-11-16, 14:38
AnimeOne&High-Quality Anime's subs are very good too, actually. And they seemed to have placed a contrast filter that makes the colors more pronounced, and I think it makes the video better.
Anyway, Ep 19 was great... The "other" sides of the characters are beginning to appear, and so do the conflicts. Nemu's mysterious health problems get a brief revisit, and then the ending is best left not mentioning. I guess the incest theme might not hold well for some people though... Anyway, can't wait for more.
juri_miki
2003-11-16, 18:06
AnimeOne&High-Quality Anime's subs are very good too, actually. And they seemed to have placed a contrast filter that makes the colors more pronounced, and I think it makes the video better.
Anyway, Ep 19 was great... The "other" sides of the characters are beginning to appear, and so do the conflicts. Nemu's mysterious health problems get a brief revisit, and then the ending is best left not mentioning. I guess the incest theme might not hold well for some people though... Anyway, can't wait for more.
Yeah I really like AnimeOne & High Quality Anime's version very much. One reason why I really rather much prefer it is because whenever I try to dl it from Soldat's link my bittorrent keeps freezing up. It takes at least 2 hours to have to constantly cancel, restart, cancel, restart, cancel, restart. I don't know if anyone else is having that problem. Plus, yeah I noticed the quality of colors in AnimeOne's version are starkingly beautiful.
I have no problem with Nemu and Asakura(sp?) hooking up together. I mean maybe it's my own Western opinions, but I would think that him being with Nemu wouldn't be as "wrong" than if he were with Sakura. I mean isn't she his first cousin? In the show Sakura is all like "You can't she's your sister." If anything he should've been like "What the fuck bitch?! You're my first cousin." That's not really why I don't want him to be with Sakura, but I thought that it was interesting for her to denounce his relationship with Nemu already considering how she's related to him.
I wasn't too cool with his friend claiming that he needs to drop Nemu and wake up out of his dream world. I mean friends help you in life for your sake, but like that was just some shadey shit to tell him. If anything, despite Asakura's decisions, as a friend I thought he would more be willing to support than criticize. Asakura should've decked him in the face after saying something like that.
Anyway, Ep 19 was great... The "other" sides of the characters are beginning to appear, and so do the conflicts. Nemu's mysterious health problems get a brief revisit, and then the ending is best left not mentioning. I guess the incest theme might not hold well for some people though... Anyway, can't wait for more.Yes, I was waiting for Nemu's illness to take more of a role in plot development.
Japanese sensibilities are weird. From an American standpoint, I would say that a relationship between blood-related first-cousins is what is incestuous.
Why is it so taboo for a "brother" and "sister" who are not related by blood to decide one day that they want to be lovers? Yes, the latter situation may seem strange for those who have known the two and watched them grow up together, but I would not say that it's wrong. As for first-cousins related by blood, now that is what seems wrong to me.
Can someone authoritatively confirm for me whether or not it is legal to marry your first-cousin in Japan? I'm quite sure it is not legal in most (if not all) states in the U.S.
Anyway, this is all coming from an engineer's perspective.
And I still find the side stories distracting. I'm wondering if they might ever have any relevance to the main plot. But until/unless I'm pleasantly surprised toward the end, these side stories remain annoying to me.
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
brightman
2003-11-16, 19:09
Can someone authoritatively confirm for me whether or not it is legal to marry your first-cousin in Japan? I'm quite sure it is not legal in most (if not all) states in the U.S.
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
from http://www.cousincouples.com/info/facts.shtml:
Fact: The frequency of cousin marriages in Japan is about 4 in 1,000
So I guess yes?
Then again, it says this:
Fact: The frequency of cousin marriages in the USA is about 1 in 1,000
Hmm... Didn't know that one.
Oh and according to http://www.infolanka.com/org/genetics/essays/essayrj3.htm
In contrast in countries like Japan, India, Pakistan and the Middle East, upto 30% of marriages are consanguineous and are even encouraged as in Japan.
Encouraged? Wow.
Just watched Episode 19. All I can say is, YAY for Da Capo!!! I had a feeling this series was going to get good, and I was right! I was holding my breath at the end, I couldn't believe some of the things that were said! I'm really really enjoying DC now :D
Yes, I was waiting for Nemu's illness to take more of a role in plot development.
Japanese sensibilities are weird. From an American standpoint, I would say that a relationship between blood-related first-cousins is what is incestuous.
Why is it so taboo for a "brother" and "sister" who are not related by blood to decide one day that they want to be lovers? Yes, the latter situation may seem strange for those who have known the two and watched them grow up together, but I would not say that it's wrong. As for first-cousins related by blood, now that is what seems wrong to me.
Can someone authoritatively confirm for me whether or not it is legal to marry your first-cousin in Japan? I'm quite sure it is not legal in most (if not all) states in the U.S.
Anyway, this is all coming from an engineer's perspective.
And I still find the side stories distracting. I'm wondering if they might ever have any relevance to the main plot. But until/unless I'm pleasantly surprised toward the end, these side stories remain annoying to me.
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Dude its legal to marry your cousin in 26 states here in the USA, im pretty sure its legal in Japan and other countires also. Personally im aganist it, I think its wrong, but I can understand it.
Just seen ep 19 heres what I thought of it
In the begining of the ep it looks like the new couple is doing well, and is happy, soon they find out the rumors about them, and begin to have doubts whether it ok for them to be lovers considering they were supposely siblings. It really getting interesting, for some reason Sakura doesnt want Asakura and Nemu to get together she doesnt mind Asakura being with someone else but not Nemu whys that. Anyways I thought they looked really good together it be a shame if they arent a couple at the end. :o for a sec there I thought Nemu wanted to make love to Asakura when she said she wanted to be close to him. Yikes good thing they only kissed. The action is really picking up cant wait for ep 20 now, good job Aone they managed to put out 2 eps quickly.
I like episode 17-19 where the real plot began to move. It sure is getting interesting with the love interest confliction going on between the three main characters. The emotions of the three was handled very nicely in these episodes and I think that's a very big plus for me. Can't wait for the next episode.
On a side note, Aone-HQA's encoding was really great and they probably had HQ raws to start out with. There are a few translations that I think can be better handled but overall I applaud for their efforts.
Dude its legal to marry your cousin in 26 states here in the USA, im pretty sure its legal in Japan and other countires also. Personally im aganist it, I think its wrong, but I can understand it.I think I can understand it as well.
I gather that you read Brightman's reply about the fact you quoted, but did you check the website he linked to? The website states in its list of facts that 26 states allow first cousin marriages (which was a surprise to me). However, in the detailed list of states, there is NO mention at all that the data is pertaining specifically to first cousins (as opposed to second cousins, etc.). So I'm skeptical about their statement made in their facts page. Perhaps their interpretation of their own data is wrong? And I wish the website cited the sources of its information better.
Anyhow, I don't mean to get us side-tracked. I was just asking for an authoritative answer about the legality of first-cousin marriages in Japan, based on my possibly erroneous assumption about the legalities in the U.S.
I'm really enjoying Da Capo (minus the side stories).
And I'm also beginning to wonder if there's something else behind why Sakura opposes Junichi and Nemu getting together, besides jealousy. Something perhaps having to do with the magical theme in the story, or a magical curse that only Sakura knows about?
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Sour-Do
I gather that you read Brightman's reply about the fact you quoted, but did you check the website he linked to? The website states in its list of facts that 26 states allow first cousin marriages (which was a surprise to me). However, in the detailed list of states, there is NO mention at all that the data is pertaining specifically to first cousins (as opposed to second cousins, etc.). So I'm skeptical about their statement made in their facts page. Perhaps their interpretation of their own data is wrong? And I wish the website cited the sources of its information better.
Not really I actually brought it up in earlier posts here awhile ago. So I did my own research and I found out that 26 states allow cousin marriage. At first I was surpised that this was legal. I dont think it wouldnt matter which cousin either he/she were first or not if it is legal to marry your cousin, but I may be wrong. you prolly would have to check on the marriage laws on that one in a state that allows cousin marriages.
Yes, I was waiting for Nemu's illness to take more of a role in plot development.
To be honest, I don't actually recal Nemu having any illness... Hmmm... unless you count the time Asakura said he "never knew that Moe's father owned the hospital Nemu went to" or something to that extent. I guess we can infer that Nemu visits the hospital rather regularly then?
To be honest, I don't see what's wrong with Asakura getting together with Nemu, since they're not related by blood. Actually, the main reason why first cousins should not be allowed to marry (and have children) is the genetic factor.
First cousins are likely to possess similar genes, and their children are thus more likely to inherit recessive genes from both their parents, resulting in them having homozygous recessive genes. That is the only way you can get certain illnesses like haemophilia and sickle-cell anaemia.
Did that sound confusing? To be brief, the 'bad' and non-dominant genes are more likely to be inherited by children borne from closely-related parents. In conclusion, you can marry your cousin, but your kid won't exactly have the best of genes.
Also, like Sour-Do said, it's interesting how Sakura opposes Asakura and Nemu, just like how Nemu also says "anyone but Sakura... Ahhh, the story is getting better, only seven episodes left... I hope that there's a good ending, I don't like watching stuff just to find that the ending sucks :(
And oh, I downloaded the AOne&HQA version to begin with because I started a bit late and they had more BT seeds :D The quality's great, and the only nit I can pick is that they somehow spell "Junichi" as "Jyunichi"...
bluemist
2003-11-17, 10:07
And so I regret having stopped at episode 12 for Da Capo... got a lot of catching up to do. I'm glad they finally started the plot, and they still have a long way to go until the series ends, so bring it on!
Finally bishoujo game-based animes are getting better...
And so I regret having stopped at episode 12 for Da Capo... got a lot of catching up to do. I'm glad they finally started the plot, and they still have a long way to go until the series ends, so bring it on!
Finally bishoujo game-based animes are getting better...
Dude your missing out on a great series the plot finally started, start dling those episodes.
Most H game based animes have really good stories even without the Hentai elements. Also this was an H game not an Bishoujo theirs a difference.
Tensai_kamen
2003-11-17, 15:03
I'm quite sad that the series decided to highlight the love between Nemu & Juinichi ( although it is inevitable since the beginning of the series ). I think it will be better if he hook up with Kotori instead.
In the ep 19's side story, is the person in the cat man`s memories the younger version of Juinichi's Grandma ?
I hope somewhere towards the end, the series will tell us more about what happen to the real Miharu & the owner of Yoriko.
Most H game based animes have really good stories even without the Hentai elements. Also this was an H game not an Bishoujo theirs a difference.
Incorrect. Adult PC games in japan are definately called bishoujo games. "H-Game" is not an actual japanese term, since I've never once seen the use of the word "H-Game" in any of my japanese Bishoujo Game magazines, games, articles, etc. And I have quite a few :D. Seeing how Da Capo was shown in one of my bishoujo game magazines... its pretty good evidence that it is indeed a b-game :). Actually, looking over to my Da Capo game box, it shows its a "Gakuen Renai Adventure" game, or "High school true love adventure" bishoujo game.
Although I will agree with the good stories part ^_^.
Hmm... would this be a lighthearted version of Kiminozo?
Any people here who has played the original game? Care to give some nice spoilers perhaps?
I havn't played much of the game, but I think the TV series is going different than the game. In kiminozo, it was one main solid story that branched off near the very end, but Da Capo was different. The stories are more different depending on who's story you chose. But I may be wrong... I havn't actually finished the game yet :p
Its nice to see the show turn back to the actual plot. The start of episode 1 sort of drew me in with the dream... but then it made nothing of it :P It'll be good to see it start going somewhere.
Doddler
Anlushac11
2003-11-17, 15:39
At the end of one of the first episodes the real Miharu Was trying to get a cat out of the tree and called to Asakura for help but he didnt hear here so she tried to get it herself. Next episode we find out that Miharu fell and seriously injured herself and is in a hospital recovering.
And while I was suprised that Yoriko could so easily leave her owner, I dont want her to go back. Yoriko and Miharu are my two favorite characters, Next to Moe-chan.
I dont think Yoshino wants Nemu and Asakura to get together because she thinks it is wrong because they still think of themselves as brother and sister. And she has been Nemu's biggest rival since she returned to Japan.
Nemu doesnt want Yoshino to get together with Asakura because Yoshino is Nemu's rival and because Yoshino and Asakura ARE blood related. If you thin about it Yoshino and Nemu are kinda opposites. Yoshino is energetic and outgoing and not afraid to show her feelings and Nemu is quiet, reserved, hides her feelings, etc.
To be honest, I don't actually recal Nemu having any illness... Hmmm... unless you count the time Asakura said he "never knew that Moe's father owned the hospital Nemu went to" or something to that extent. I guess we can infer that Nemu visits the hospital rather regularly then?
Heh heh. Check out the first episode again. Junichi checks Nemu's temperature, forehead to forehead, every morning...
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Actually I think this series should have been made 13 episodes and not 26 with lots of filler and those side episodes.
I find rather anticlimatic that Suginami, which was portrayed as a careless guy during all the filler episodes, comes up in this episode giving such advice to Juunichi. Something just didn't seem right to me.
I think Nemu and Sakura are so against each other, probably because both feel jealous of each other when they were little, like when Nemu explains why she doesn't like sweets, and we see her looking at Juunichi and Sakura making sweets with magic and running away
Iron Monkey
2003-11-18, 00:24
I dunno, I don't see what's so bad about Nemu and Asakura's having a relationship. They knew from the get go that they weren't related. Like I've said in the past, what's really the big difference between this and say developing feelings for a childhood friend whom you treated as a younger/older sibling when you both were kids?
On a side note, is it really that big of a turn on in Japan to fall for a step sibling or have a relationship with a teacher? It seems like there's a lot of show's which hint at it. I dunno about you, but having your gf call you "brother" is kinda freaky, I think.
Heh heh. Check out the first episode again. Junichi checks Nemu's temperature, forehead to forehead, every morning...
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
Aha! To think that I forgot that, seeing how I liked that bit so much.
Yeah, I'm wondering what's happening to the real Miharu and Yoriko's owner...
To be honest, I don't really like Yoriko somehow, but I do like Miharu, after Nemu and Kotori. Anyone got an idea as to what she was trying to buy on Ahoo! Auctions?
I hope there will be more stuff about Kotori and maybe Mako - they both like (or at least liked) Asakura, but suddenly it doesn't seem that way? :confused:
By the way, is Da Capo currently being screened in Japan? Or as it been fully broadcast and the subbers are just taking their time to do the subbing?
from http://www.cousincouples.com/info/facts.shtml:
So I guess yes?
Then again, it says this:
Hmm... Didn't know that one.
Oh and according to http://www.infolanka.com/org/genetics/essays/essayrj3.htm
Encouraged? Wow.
Its good to know that sites like these are around,just incase!
I hope there will be more stuff about Kotori and maybe Mako - they both like (or at least liked) Asakura, but suddenly it doesn't seem that way? :confused:
Maybe they are just focusing in the Nemu-Juunichi-Sakura triangle, but I bet Kotori will read Juunichi's mind and find out his feelings for Nemu or something like that, and Mako will probably have some words with Nemu too.
The only one that seems to root for them is Miharu, which is quite scary... lol
By the way, is Da Capo currently being screened in Japan? Or as it been fully broadcast and the subbers are just taking their time to do the subbing?
AnimeDaisuki says episode 21 airs next Sunday.
Don Eunuch
2003-11-20, 07:29
You know the elder sister who has big bristles and likes to cook? Whats the deal with her slow speech? Is there an accent or something?
Anlushac11
2003-11-20, 09:44
I think you mean Moe-Chan and her sister Mako-chan? the Mizukohi sisters
Always makes those soups in the rooftop ladies hotpot club.
Moe-chan always talks slow and she has narcolepsy. She can fall asleep while walking to school, and sleepwalk the rest of the way.
She also reminds me of Otohime Mutsumi from Love Hina. Neither Otohime or Moe-chan are stupid but people assume that since they both talk slow.
Their father owns the hospital in town.
Don Eunuch
2003-11-20, 10:43
Moe-chan always talks slow and she has narcolepsy. She can fall asleep while walking to school, and sleepwalk the rest of the way.
She also reminds me of Otohime Mutsumi from Love Hina. Neither Otohime or Moe-chan are stupid but people assume that since they both talk slow.
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Narcolepsy eh? I learn something new. What does Otohime suffer from? Sudden death syndrome?
:joke:
eMpTy265
2003-11-20, 13:25
Narcolepsy eh? I learn something new. What does Otohime suffer from? Sudden death syndrome?
:joke:
LOL... I always thought it was something related to low blood pressure. =P
N E WayZ.. Da Capo
The beginning few episodes were pretty slow, and with the seiyuu MV's and stuff I found it really hard to pick up the series.
I suppose it's definately a good thing that I actually spent the time to burn the episodes onto CD.
At ep.19, I'm still confused why the entire school seems to think that Nemu and Junichi are 'abnormal'. So is it that nobody (apart from Sakura, and Junichi's 'friend') knows that Nemu and Junichi are NOT blood related?
I have a feeling that D.C. 's going to get much sadder in the next few episodes.
Hopefully the ending will be as emotional as the one from Kanon, cuz I'd be disappointed if it wasn't, especially after the great development in ep.16-19
^.^
Anlushac11
2003-11-20, 15:13
I think Otohime has low blood pressure and is prone to passing out whenever and wherever.
I hope it isnt as much a tear jerker as Kanon. I dont want to go through another one of theose crying bouts like I did with Kanon. Even though I think Kanon is one of the best animes of all time, and I am aware that its just my opinion.
And it is not common knowledge that Junnichi and Nemu are not blood related. In fact Junnichi was suprised his friend on the school paper even knew about it.
So in Japan dating your cousin is not part of the norm but happens enough that people arent as freaked out by it. But since the school thinks Nemu and Junnichi are blood related brother and sister, they ARE freaked out by the implied incest.
It seems that to Yoshino that even if they arent blood related, that they think of each other as brother and sister which is as bad as if they were blood related.
I can kinda see Juunichi and Nemus attitiude on this. I have a step sister who Im very close to. Everyone sees us as brother and sister. We are close but also aware of the fact that we are NOT blood related. Our parents have made it a point to try and keep us apart. We live in different parts of the country and she is married so there has never been an opportunity for anything. When we are together we act more like best friends who find each other attractive but wont date for fear of damaging the friendship.
I am still not entirely clear on why Yoshino said "Anyone but Nemu" and Nemu said "Anyone but Sakura". Maybe its because Sakura seems them as brother and sister in haert if not in blood, and Nemu knows theat Sakura and Junnichi really are related. So now the question is which is worse, virtual incest or leagal incest with a cousin?
And I was of the opinion that Nemu WAS asking Juunichi to make a woman out of her in the biblical sense, as in SEX.
PocariSweat
2003-11-22, 06:05
Moe-Chan, well... After the side episode of #18 all I can say is, low blood pressure or not, that girl has a real way with picking mushrooms! :heh:
I also noticed many of the characters like Moe and Mutsumi suffer from this mysterious "Low blood pressure" thing - symptoms include passing out and saying "ara ara..." a lot :) Always seemed more like narcolepsy to me too - low blood pressure sounds more like a *healthy* thing to have - like low cholesterol (I guess it must be all the fish in their diet).
I am rooting for Nemu, but I wish she would quit calling Juunichi onii-san now that they have confessed their true feelings. Honestly, they need to work on letting the school know that they aren't related by blood before they start with he outword signs of affection.
I agree with Anlushac11 on the whole love me like a woman statement. I assumed she was referring to sex. I didn't watch the preview for ep. 20, so I don't know if the story line will pick up from that moment or if we will forever be left to wonder.
I am rooting for Nemu, but I wish she would quit calling Juunichi onii-san now that they have confessed their true feelings. Honestly, they need to work on letting the school know that they aren't related by blood before they start with he outword signs of affection.
I agree with Anlushac11 on the whole love me like a woman statement. I assumed she was referring to sex. I didn't watch the preview for ep. 20, so I don't know if the story line will pick up from that moment or if we will forever be left to wonder.
I dont think Nemu meant "love me as a woman" meant that she wanted to have sex with him, more like love me not like a sister or being related in anyway. Im not so sure though but the ep20 will prolly explain it. The preview for ep20 doesnt say much about them having sex or anything just Sakura expressing how she feels about Nemu's relationship.
Hao Asakura
2003-11-24, 08:17
Moe-Chan, well... After the side episode of #18 all I can say is, low blood pressure or not, that girl has a real way with picking mushrooms! :heh:
Still sadly waiting for Soldats version of ep 18 :sad:
Aone subs seems to pretty good they subbed to ep19 i believe
Tensai_kamen
2003-11-24, 10:22
Still sadly waiting for Soldats version of ep 18 :sad:
Me too....
Aone subs seems to pretty good they subbed to ep19 i believe
That's why i get the episodes from them then replace it with soldat's when available. I hate to use different groups for my collection.
Still sadly waiting for Soldats version of ep 18 :sad:
speaking of sadly waiting...eps 20...:sad:
Village Idiot
2003-11-25, 15:10
I've just watched the raw of ep21, and good news! It looks like ep21 might just be the last of those Side Stories!
I've just watched the raw of ep21, and good news! It looks like ep21 might just be the last of those Side Stories!
was the episode a full 20+ minutes or the same lenght as with the side stories.
Yay! Finally no more of the evil cat-headed weirdo! ^^ But actually *ashamed* I kinda liked the side episode with the big chrystal ball in the forest... Oh and where do you guys find the raws?
Village Idiot
2003-11-25, 16:36
was the episode a full 20+ minutes or the same lenght as with the side stories.
Same length as the other episodes, but the side story episode was shown first.
The reason why I think that it might be the last of the Side Stories is because
The Cat leaves onboard a boat, with all the girls saying goodbye to it.
There's also a new ending in Ep21, or maybe Ep20 but I didn't see it :P
Apparently the story really picks up in Ep20, as well as 21.
Pendragon2879
2003-11-26, 04:26
Moe chan reminds me so much of the other girl from Love Hina. You know, the one who is a genious but faints before taking tests. The way she talks and seems simple but very kind and smart. They both have a quality in them that makes me like them more. They just seem so easy going, and caring.
Moe chan reminds me so much of the other girl from Love Hina. You know, the one who is a genious but faints before taking tests. The way she talks and seems simple but very kind and smart. They both have a quality in them that makes me like them more. They just seem so easy going, and caring.
You mean Mutsumi, yup Moe-chan reminds me of her too. I think Moe-chan can be more of an airhead but I like her she can be so funny. Did I mention she has abnormally large breast for a high school student. :)
Ep21 : New ending theme "Sonzai"(Existence)
lyrics: rino
composition / arrangement: Naoyuki Nakada
song: CooRie
tenohira kobore ochiyuku
namidairo no hanabira
yurameku omoi kaze ni utaeba
itsuka kimi ni tadori tukimasuka?
togireta kioku no ito wo tadori
sonosaki de tada aitai to negau
chiisana ashiato wo motome tadayou hibi
soko ni nanimonai to shitemo
konnanimo taisetsuda to omoetakara
chitte nao sakihokoreruyou ni
aruiteiku sou eien ni kiminokoto
kokoro ni sotto idaite
JacobM5727
2003-11-27, 08:06
i have the episodes out currently - 19
im glad to see a story starting to appear - but i too do not see the need for the weird cat-man, though maybe it will be important later, i have some ideas.. but anywho ~ i dont see why everyone is ok with him dating his cousin, but not his non-blood sister, who doesnt look 12
not as though i have a problem with it either way ;) but its the principle of the thing..
i had to re encode two of the soldats episodes, so if anyone has issues with them, im glad it wasnt just me
Hao Asakura
2003-11-27, 09:35
Did I mention Moe has abnormally large breast for a high school student. :)
Don't worry Keitarou-kun. This is NOT the only series with that 'phenomenon' :heh:
Remember 'Green Green' and 'Ikkitousen' anyone???
seen ep20, all I can say lots of drama like KgNE. Talk about incest, this has the most since Onegai Twins, don't you think.
Nemu passes out and a Sakura petal falls out of her mouth. Seems like Sakura may be behind it in the preview. Still has that stupid side story I hope ep21+ don't have them. That huge Sakura tree is involved in everthing I think. I think it might be some kind of magical tree that makes wishes come true. Interesting....
PocariSweat
2003-11-27, 20:14
That huge Sakura tree is involved in everthing I think. I think it might be some kind of magical tree that makes wishes come true. Interesting....
Well, considering that's exactly what Sakura said it was for earlier on - I'd say you've got a good chance of being right! :)
If you missed it somehow Sakura explained that it was planted by Junnichi's mahou-obaasan to grant wishes. It's why the trees are always in bloom and why Sakura herself doesn't grow up (though this logic is a bit fuzzy if you ask me since, by staying so child-like, Sakura isn't exactly helping her chances with Junnich).
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Well, considering that's exactly what Sakura said it was for earlier on - I'd say you've got a good chance of being right! :)
If you missed it somehow Sakura explained that it was planted by Junnichi's mahou-obaasan to grant wishes. It's why the trees are always in bloom and why Sakura herself doesn't grow up (though this logic is a bit fuzzy if you ask me since, by staying so child-like, Sakura isn't exactly helping her chances with Junnich).
Oh yeah she did mention what the tree was. My bad, so I guessed right lol.
brightman
2003-11-27, 20:44
Yeah, Ep 20 was full of drama and that is a great twist at the end...
And we finally learn that the reason Sakura doesn't want Nemu to get together with Junichi is because she's jealous that she get to spend on that time with him while Sakura had to go away, so she thought it wasn't fair.
Anyway I don't think Sakura's directly involved in the thing in the end though, since she sounded a bit sorry in the preview... She seemed to have been blaming herself because of the fact that she made those promises with Junichi under the tree and hence the tree is now stopping Nemu and Junichi from getting together...
Anyway, still trying to figure out what that black cat thing in the side episodes is... Seems to be attracted to Sakura a lot... Though I guess we'll never be able to figure that one out.
batchicken25
2003-11-27, 21:57
after watching eps 18-20, I have this sudden urge to slap the crap out of Juunichi and Nemu. Don't get me wrong, I like the series but COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!, they're brother and sister. I don't care if they aren't blood-related, they're still siblings!
:nono:
after watching eps 18-20, I have this sudden urge to slap the crap out of Juunichi and Nemu. Don't get me wrong, I like the series but COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!, they're brother and sister. I don't care if they aren't blood-related, they're still siblings!
:nono:
lol I thought the same when they first kissed, freaked me out a little.You have to learn to be openminded, it may be weird to some ppl but its normal for others.
But dont they look so cute together.
Don Eunuch
2003-11-27, 23:14
after watching eps 18-20, I have this sudden urge to slap the crap out of Juunichi and Nemu. Don't get me wrong, I like the series but COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!, they're brother and sister. I don't care if they aren't blood-related, they're still siblings!
:nono:
Will it be more acceptable if they did not grow up together and just met each other and fell in love?(also not blood related)
after watching eps 18-20, I have this sudden urge to slap the crap out of Juunichi and Nemu. Don't get me wrong, I like the series but COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!, they're brother and sister. I don't care if they aren't blood-related, they're still siblings!
:nono:Open your mind..Personal prejudice/bias does not speak for everyone in the world...What may consider taboo or weird to one, it may be normal to another...Here is an example (you may already know this), in India cows are literally treated as god (holy, sacred) by Hindus (major religious group)and it is forbidden to eat cow-meat..Would you consider that weird?..Dont answer that..There are many examples as such...
And you do agree that vague theme of incest makes the show so interesting ...
Don Eunuch
2003-11-28, 01:22
Open your mind..Personal prejudice/bias does not speak for everyone in the world...What may consider taboo or weird to one, it may be normal to another
And you do agree that vague theme of incest makes the show so interesting ...
Speaking of taboos and incest, I saw a documentary of a tribe in China where people do not marry and have multiple sex partners. Needless to say there, half-brothers and half-sisters are a problem and it is taboo for them to be in proximity with one and other.
Saw you in the Condor Heroes Thread, Youkka's parents are unrelated siblings too. ;) Nemu should go ahead and have a baby :p
Saw you in the Condor Heroes Thread, Youkka's parents are unrelated siblings too. ;) Nemu should go ahead and have a baby :p
dude they are only high school students, lets not encourage them to have babies now. :P
PocariSweat
2003-11-28, 01:55
You know - after seeing hordes of animes where a guy has a "sister" he's not really related to - it makes me wonder: in Japan, do they just shuffle all the kids around at birth so no one's actually living with their real siblings? ^_^; I guess then all the parents drop dead of "karoushi" as well (since they're usually nowhere around in the shows).
juri_miki
2003-11-28, 02:25
after watching eps 18-20, I have this sudden urge to slap the crap out of Juunichi and Nemu. Don't get me wrong, I like the series but COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!, they're brother and sister. I don't care if they aren't blood-related, they're still siblings!
:nono:
Yeah they might be brother/sister, but like think of their situation of them growing up together as family friends and they eventually grew up together. The whole brother and sister thing was just their idea.
On to episode 20:
Manoman it's getting really good. I'm so glad that Junichi finally just came out and told Nemu that he loved her and finally came out to Sakura that Nemu was his woman. I thought it was really cool that she dropped and the petal came out of her mouth. I wonder what are they going to do since the promises that they made underneath the tree are obviously coming true or Sakura wished Nemu dead.
As for that side episode, it wasn't as bad, but I still hate them very much and just wished they'd stop. Give me my 24 minute episode!
:topicoff: Okay, I was thinking. You all know that side story with "Sakura" that was older (if that is Sakura) and the cat guy. Well from the look of it its as if the cat guy was young. Well my line of thinking is that girl that looks like Sakura is actually Juunichi grand mother. Well that was my thinking. The side story in eps 20 he was kinda sad.
PocariSweat
2003-11-28, 02:58
Well my line of thinking is that girl that looks like Sakura is actually Juunichi grand mother.
That was my guess too. Actually I kind of think these cat-guy side stories will tie in to the main one at some point. It may be that we just can't see who he really is yet, but in the side stories, no one is really seems all that shocked to see him (and I know he'd scare the bijeebers out of me :) )
Well i started to think about it since the "first color TV on the island" line Sakura look a like said. Unless everyone has cell phones and not TV in the future. ;)
Off the topic how do you make those thing so people have to highlighted to see it.
Of couse I'm new. :uhoh:
PocariSweat
2003-11-28, 03:33
Well i started to think about it since the "first color TV on the island" line Sakura look a like said. Unless everyone has cell phones and not TV in the future. ;)
Hm, that would make it maybe the early to mid 1960's I'd guess. Actually, thinking about that, maybe it's not long enough ago for it to be Juniichi's grandmother - maybe it could be his mother! (could cat-man be his dad?!) Then again, we don't really know when the show takes place, so it's hard to be sure.
how do you make those thing so people have to highlighted to see it.
Of couse I'm new. :uhoh:
just use the word "spoiler" within a pair of square brackets... stuff to hide (but spell it right :))
Hm, that would make it maybe the early to mid 1960's I'd guess. Actually, thinking about that, maybe it's not long enough ago for it to be Juniichi's grandmother - maybe it could be his mother! (could cat-man be his dad?!) Then again, we don't really know when the show takes place, so it's hard to be sure.
Well interesting...... Any way is there any info on their parents? All I seem to remember is that the grandmother saying something about having mage in their blood.
Thanks for telling me how to do that. Thanks again. :bow:
Kamui4356
2003-11-28, 04:24
I almost stopped watching after ep 19, but I'm glad I didn't, as ep 20 was great. The only problem is that damn side story thing. In the other episodes it was bad enough, but in this one it was just wrong. To end an episode with a scene like nemu collapsing is one thing, but to do it half way through and put random cat-headed people watching highlights from their past appearances just isn't right. Well as long as the main story is getting good, I shouldn't complain too much...
eMpTy265
2003-11-28, 12:32
I almost stopped watching after ep 19, but I'm glad I didn't, as ep 20 was great. The only problem is that damn side story thing. In the other episodes it was bad enough, but in this one it was just wrong. To end an episode with a scene like nemu collapsing is one thing, but to do it half way through and put random cat-headed people watching highlights from their past appearances just isn't right. Well as long as the main story is getting good, I shouldn't complain too much...
:-)
Curious that you'd actually 'almost stop' watching after ep.19, cuz it's only from ep.16 that the 'drama' really begins. (Personally I almost stopped a few times... around eps 5, 9, 10 14 or so... but 16 got me on the hook.
I definately agree with you that the side story really ticked me off, cuz the main story got me so involved that I didn't even realize that 16 minutes had already passed.
They'd better get rid of these side stories soon, cuz honestly I didn't like them much more than the music videos in the first 7? eps.
heh... I suppose I rant a lot too... but I really can't wait for ep.21
(and I wish some group would make a version that only includes the main plot, cuz my BT's really messed (1K/s) and a smaller filesize would be better. =D)
OKOK... I'll stop ranting before someone tries to kill me. =D
Okay why is everyone so down on the side storys?
In the beginning I thought they were neat since they gave more face time with each girl (you can never go wrong with that :) ). I got kinda tired of them when the eps were cliff hangers but since recently caught up with the series (looking forward to 21) I didn't care. I still like the side stories, they're really weird but interesting at the same time. How know that Moe-chan was so cute. That side story should have maked up with all the down sides of shortening the main plot. And who can forget the Miharu side story. :heh:
Esoteria
2003-11-28, 19:47
First post. Love of Da Capo presses through my laziness to actually register.
I'm enclosing the rest of my post in a spoiler so I don't have to be responsible for anything I might forget to inclose in one.
First of all, I've gotten a little annoyed with everyone bashing the side episodes. I love them to death. They may relate to the story towards the end. But even if they don't, they're valuable. These side episodes are a different sort of viewing. Similar to the Noh theatre in Japan, they're meant to be watched in a state of semi-consciousness. Time and physical matter are of little to no importance in these. You're meant to gain something from these side episodes that isn't handed to you in short, subtitled sentences spoken by scantily dressed girls blushing profusely. Anime isn't all about the fanservice and utter simplicity. There is beauty in that, too, I think (and largely that simplicity is part of Da Capo).
Anyway, I may have been a little too wordy there. The point is that side episodes aren't meant to be taken so much at face value. They're not even necessarily supposed to give you a better understanding of the story or characters (although I believe all of those that center on one girl are meant to develop that character through the Noh style I aforementioned). Without the side episodes, I would have a hard time seeing Da Capo as anything other than another too-many-girls-like-one-guy story. With them there, I feel like I'm watching something a little more... intellectually stimulating.
Characters.
First of all, I was taken by Yoriko at first sight. I love that girl, and I don't want her to go away.
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I've read that Sakura finds a way to disenchant the sakura tree that grants all wishes made under it (probably to save Nemu from dying, because Nemu was getting in the way of the promise for Junichi to love Sakura under that tree). This will also disenchant the wish of Yoriko's master to have Yoriko be human. So Yoriko will be a cat again... WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Back to regular spoilers that those who've watched the show up to ep 20 will not have any problem with...
So anyway, I like Yoriko, but also I never really had any real hope that Junichi would hook up with her... it just wouldn't fit. Besides, Yoriko doesn't really want that either. Initially she wanted to hook her master up with Junichi and accidentally fell in love with him herself in the process (that should be obvious).
I have no problem with Junichi and Nemu being together. The extent of their being siblings was in their minds and their actions. Other than that, they're just girl and guy (who happen to be living under the same roof and still like each other which is all the more reason to think a relationship other than bro-sis should exist or would be successful). As for the anime, I don't know what will happen and am interested to see. If things don't turn out favorably, I'll just have to continue learning japanese, play the game, and avoid the hentai parts.
Someone said something earlier about Mako and Kotori liking Junichi and that that sorta faded away. Well, I'll tell you: The anime was made after the game, and in case you didn't know, you can basically choose to follow the story with any of the girls (many of which are not in the anime). So people who played the game and loved Kotori at first sight would try hard to beat the game (i.e. get Kotori in bed -_-) with her. [[side note about h-games: I don't like them. I don't think that someone who plays an h-game with the sole desire to have sex with them understands the emotion and hard work an artist/writer puts into his girl creations. In Da Capo's case, it seems to be an h-game that still has a wonderful story and interesting girls (not girls fooled by stupid phrases that any guy could cough up to get her to sleep with him). I wish it wasn't hentai. Dating simulations are supposed to make you feel like you're actually with the girl, a perfect rendition of a fantasy girl, but if you really feel like you're with them, would you ruin their purity and humility that way? And if you would, so early on? I just think it ruins a lot of things....]] Back to the subject. The game allowed you to choose a girl, and people became attached to one girl or another. Then they made the anime, and I guess they want to make all the gamers feel at home with the anime by making an episode or more of each girl with Junichi... animating the date with that girl that that gamer experienced. I think it's wonderful what they've done with it.
Recapping: the point of every girl liking him (but not necessarily having that as a central part of the story) is because the game allowed you to choose a girl, and the anime wanted to appeal to the gamers.
I don't see what Kotori sees in Junichi... although he's more reserved, he still gets the same perverted thoughts as the other guys around Kotori. *sigh...* girls... I'll never understand.
So anyway, I finished ep 20, read some stuff about the game, basically know what's going to happen on Sakura's end (see uber-spoiler), but the mystery remains. I need to learn Japanese faster so I can play the game.
Sorry this post was so long. If you managed to get all the way through it, grats.
haha..yes I have gotten through that post..interesting uber spoiler...also if AG3 and Doddler (fellow members)find out about your opinion of h-games, they will definitely come flying for some conversion post and believe me they are very convincing..great post overall :D
Speaking of taboos and incest, I saw a documentary of a tribe in China where people do not marry and have multiple sex partners. Needless to say there, half-brothers and half-sisters are a problem and it is taboo for them to be in proximity with one and other.
Saw you in the Condor Heroes Thread, Youkka's parents are unrelated siblings too. ;) Nemu should go ahead and have a baby :pI believe that tribe is located in the border of Tibet and China although I have forgotten what the tribe was called...haha...mentioning of Mongols get me worked up any day..blood and "glory" was exploited by those two great Mongol sons to the most viloent imagination..bad for their foes...
Nice post Esoteria, no sense putting spoiler tags since im gonna be tempted to read it. I damn myself sometimes when this happens, stupid me. Anyways about your massive spoiler where did you hear this from, or are you speculating what will happen.
Esoteria that was a long post. Any way in the game can you get some double team action going on. :D
brightman
2003-11-28, 20:57
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I've read that Sakura finds a way to disenchant the sakura tree that grants all wishes made under it (probably to save Nemu from dying, because Nemu was getting in the way of the promise for Junichi to love Sakura under that tree). This will also disenchant the wish of Yoriko's master to have Yoriko be human. So Yoriko will be a cat again... WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Hmm... Spoilers for a future episode
I think that's what happens in the end of Ep 21, isn't it? In that case we'll still have some episodes left to fresh out all the other characters who lost their wishes then.
Hmm... Spoilers for a future episode
I think that's what happens in the end of Ep 21, isn't it? In that case we'll still have some episodes left to fresh out all the other characters who lost their wishes then.
I wonder how wished for what. Can be very interesting. :p
I've just watched the ep22
Yoriko-san.......(T T)
(ep22 cap) http://www.42ch.net/UploaderAnime/source/1070127900.jpg
Eleutheria
2003-11-30, 01:00
Side stories:
IMO
They are the various girls' dreams, and the black cat-headed man represents Asakura's point of view in those dreams.
I thought it was pretty obvious...especially in
the one with the cat-man reviewing previous side-stories in a movie theatre
and
Originally Posted by Esoteria
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I've read that Sakura finds a way to disenchant the sakura tree that grants all wishes made under it (probably to save Nemu from dying, because Nemu was getting in the way of the promise for Junichi to love Sakura under that tree). This will also disenchant the wish of Yoriko's master to have Yoriko be human. So Yoriko will be a cat again... WAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
If you've seen the h-game CG or played the game,
There's one pic with Yoriko as the cat crawling out from her clothes
Pendragon2879
2003-11-30, 04:40
I just watched episode 20 and I gotta say that there is something just downright disturbing about the whole love triangle thing. And I know you guys know exactly what it is. Both girls call him brother! Nemu says, "We are lovers, right brother?" and sakura also calls him big brother. Even if Nemu isn't blood relation, she was accepted as little sister and grew up with him in the same house. It would be different if she didn't keep calling him brother. Every time she starts a sentence its with oni san. She could at the very least call him by his first name. Or last name, however they do it. This triangle reeks of an episode of Jerry Springer.I would even be satisfied if she called him her second cousin twice removed. Its just when she says brother, incest springs to mind. Personally, I would either hook up with SAKURA or that nice red head girl. oR EVEN one of the green haired sisters.
Shy-()ne
2003-11-30, 14:48
Side stories:
IMO
They are the various girls' dreams, and the black cat-headed man represents Asakura's point of view in those dreams.
I thought it was pretty obvious...especially in
the one with the cat-man reviewing previous side-stories in a movie theatre
That's an interesting take Eleutheria I never thought about that actually, but it doesn't really explain
the past relationship the catman had with Jyunichi and Sakura's grandmother. Nor does it explain Sakura's amazement at catching a glimpse of the catman's face when she was at the Soba shop.
I am also really enjoying the side stories as well. I find them to be very creative and they allow the creators to play around with stylistic ideas that they couldn't otherwise do.
I also really like the bizarreness of the series.
What is with the pink teddy bear?
What is with Suginami and that alien/ cropfield thing in the shopping episode?
and why was he wearing a dress in that zoo episode?
I didn't realize that this series was based on a game and honestly I find it a bit odd but it doesn't take anything away from the series.
Question: does Jyunichi have any other magical powers other than making mochi appear out of thin air? (other than seeing dreams)
First post!
Eleutheria
2003-11-30, 17:24
What is with the pink teddy bear?
Just something that appears in every episode...
What is with Suginami and that alien/ cropfield thing in the shopping episode?
Explained in the recap (15) episode
and why was he wearing a dress in that zoo episode?
and the short green haired girl was wearing a guy's dress
Lord Raiden
2003-11-30, 18:42
Man, I'm glad you guys started talking about this series. I finally downloaded it and saw the first episode and I'm hooked!! :D
Problem is, this now makes for my 22nd anime I'm following currently. Sheesh. ;) Oh well, sit back and enjoy I guess. :D
Hey I have a quick question about this anime and popotan. I know both are based on h-games but I was several series with my girlfriend like Kimi ga and was wondering, do either of those animes have nudity. If they do then my g/f won't watch them with me. I don't want to dl and then have her not watch em.
Hey I have a quick question about this anime and popotan. I know both are based on h-games but I was several series with my girlfriend like Kimi ga and was wondering, do either of those animes have nudity. If they do then my g/f won't watch them with me. I don't want to dl and then have her not watch em.
Da Capo so far as I seen doesn't have any kind of nudity. Popotan and the other hand has a lot of nudity mostly just the bath scenes. But nonetheless Popotan is a nice short little series with some very touching moments which I think shouldn't stop you and your girlfriend from not enjoying it if you could ignore the nude bath scenes.
Thanks for the advice. So i will start da capo in a little bit. As far as popotan i will see if she is ok with it. It's just bath scenes right? She'd kill me if it had more than that.
Thanks for the advice. So i will start da capo in a little bit. As far as popotan i will see if she is ok with it. It's just bath scenes right? She'd kill me if it had more than that.
As for Popotan don't worry theirs no hardcore sex or anything just really ecchi sometimes thats all. One of the characters does presumably have sex but they don't show any of it. If your girlfriend gets mad at the nude bath scenes blame it on me, I'll take the wrath :bash:
Iron Monkey
2003-11-30, 21:26
I just watched episode 20 and I gotta say that there is something just downright disturbing about the whole love triangle thing. And I know you guys know exactly what it is. Both girls call him brother! Nemu says, "We are lovers, right brother?" and sakura also calls him big brother. Even if Nemu isn't blood relation, she was accepted as little sister and grew up with him in the same house. It would be different if she didn't keep calling him brother. Every time she starts a sentence its with oni san. She could at the very least call him by his first name. Or last name, however they do it. This triangle reeks of an episode of Jerry Springer.I would even be satisfied if she called him her second cousin twice removed. Its just when she says brother, incest springs to mind. Personally, I would either hook up with SAKURA or that nice red head girl. oR EVEN one of the green haired sisters.
Well, that's from a Westerner's point of view. In Asian terms, "brother" is used loosely, as in you can call anyone older than you that, regardless if there is any relation or not to that person. It's a form of respect, rather than calling the person by his name, you call him "brother". Same thing applies with "sister". I used to call everyone that all the time when I was younger. No big deal.
What is with the pink teddy bear?
Advertisement for D.C.P.S. (Da Capo Plus Situation), the new D.C. for the PS2. It is basically the original eroge- version of D.C., minus the sex scenes, with added characters. D.C.P.S. was released in October while D.C. anime is on the air.
The pink teddy bear is actually one of the added characters for D.C.P.S.: Murasaki Izumiko
http://circus.nandemo.gr.jp/common/dcps/
Murasaki Izumiko is basically "a very cute girl to everyone else except Junichi...he sees her as a big pink teddy bear"
She'd kill me if it had more than that.
Talking about whipped. :joke:
Village Idiot
2003-12-01, 00:02
Advertisement for D.C.P.S. (Da Capo Plus Situation), the new D.C. for the PS2. It is basically the original eroge- version of D.C., minus the sex scenes, with added characters. D.C.P.S. was released in October while D.C. anime is on the air.
The pink teddy bear is actually one of the added characters for D.C.P.S.: Murasaki Izumiko
http://circus.nandemo.gr.jp/common/dcps/
Murasaki Izumiko is basically "a very cute girl to everyone else except Junichi...he sees her as a big pink teddy bear"
Ooo cool! I've gotta get this game :)
Looks like they added in around 4(?) new characters.
Too bad they didn't wait for the PS2 version to come out before making the anime so they could add the new characters in, though I guess it'll be hard giving each character decent screen time with that many characters.
Okay I heard a lot about this game..... but I don't know what it is. Can someone nice tell what its like?
Esoteria
2003-12-01, 00:21
To whomever asked me if my uber-spoiler was true or speculation, the image that was posted shortly after my post should clarify its accuracy.
Nooooooooo!!! Poor Yoriko... *sniff*
Thanks for the compliments on my posts, btw, guys. And I'm glad I got my point across about H-games at least somewhat. Although I do have moral issues with premarital sex, that is not my main reason for disliking the genre. As I said, I think it just takes away from the beauty of the female characters... and one's ability to imagine them how they would like to once the game is over. I CRAVE the PS2 version of the game... you have no idea... CRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE. But I have no PS2 and I cannot read Japanese yet (JAPN 102 next semester... still a long way to go).
I did actually know about the pink teddy bear thing... which is quite amusing IMO. From what I gather about the game from hearing all this stuff about it on whatever other forum's D.C. thread I spent like an hour reading through, the game doesn't try to force you into thinking "You...are...Junichi..." "This...girl...likes...YOU...." Which is good, IMO, because you end up making that attachment anyway and entering your name in an allowable space of ten characters does not contribute to that anyway. =D For those who would condemn my disliking H-games by saying I wouldn't know because I've never played one, I have played Jast's True Love. It's a respectable game. Statistic-based, so hardly realistic, but respectable... until the hentai picks up. Chemi was just starting to become a very likable character to me when I hit the beach scene with Chemi and although they did no poor job of making the fact that she wanted to have sex seem fairly realistic, it happened, and my relationship with her abruptly ended before I got to the end of the game, chose to "go steady" with her (which made me want to vomit to think that I would have sex with some girl and THEN decide to date her... much less marry. You heard me. I'm not a sex-crazed maniac. I am not your average guy.), and got more hentai. *sigh* So I figured "well, it is an H-game, but I hear there often is a way in these games to avoid having sex and still have a relationship. Maybe not a successful one, but a relationship." (this was a long time ago, before I realized just how superficial most H-games are) So I start going for Mayumi. We have dinner. We go on the spinny thing at the carnival where she gets all emotionally stressed. We come back. Pass the love hotel................. She asks if we should go in. Of course I said no! Well, what kind of girl wouldn't fall in love with me for life on the spot after refusing to have sex with her in such a state!? Well, there went the relationship. *sound of bomb dropping...* no sex apparently equals *bomb explodes* to the relationship. See now, a game based on "meet girl, have sex, get good ending" just doesn't seem quite realistic to me. Therefore, I have trouble attaching myself to these characters. If I can't attach myself to the characters, I can't enjoy the game. H-games are disappointing. I don't play them.
Wow... I so didn't expect to just type that little story.
Back to the subject.
Yoriko!!!!! noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Okay, I think I'm over it.
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WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?!?
Alright, I'm done. Now, does anyone know of any good [narrows down to 12%] non-H [5%] dating sims that are in English[1%]? ...how about for free[without piracy, 0.004%]?
Well, I would be willing to buy it... so... anything?
Okay I heard a lot about this game..... but I don't know what it is. Can someone nice tell what its like?
It's originally an ero-game (or as Americans would like to call it, "hentai game") released by the softhouse Circus in 2002. Quite possibly one of the best eroge- for 2002 (depends on who you talk to), it is a 純愛系エロゲー in which you portray the role of Asakura Junichi, and fall in love with one of the five (six) girls.
Wow, that couldn't have been any more simpler...
The anime basically follows the eroge- storyline (mostly, overall).
It's originally an ero-game (or as Americans would like to call it, "hentai game") released by the softhouse Circus in 2002. Quite possibly one of the best eroge- for 2002 (depends on who you talk to), it is a 純愛系エロゲー in which you portray the role of Asakura Junichi, and fall in love with one of the five (six) girls.
Wow, that couldn't have been any more simpler...
The anime basically follows the eroge- storyline (mostly, overall).
Thank you kj for telling me. :)
So is the game any fun?
Village Idiot
2003-12-01, 01:33
A majority of great bishoujo games started out as a hentai sim, ie: Kanon, Air, Comic Party, To Heart, Mizuiro, Da Capo, etc.
The sex scenes in those games aren't really needed, they are just thrown in to appeal to h-fans, and even then, the scenes are usually really short.
If they get popular enough, they get ported over to a console and have the h-scenes removed, and is usually followed by an anime.
For those games, the strong part is the storyline/characters, rather than just playing it for the h-scenes.
The downside to the game -> anime conversion is because the games usually have the player focusing on one girl's storyline, during the conversion to anime, most of the girl's storyline's gets shafted in favor of the 'best ending girl', thus usually most of the events in the game are edited/cut out.
Strong examples are Kanon, Comic Party, To Heart, and Mizuiro. Most of the storylines from the game are cut out. Mizuiro has a truely beautiful storyline. The two episode series didn't do it justice :P
A majority of great bishoujo games started out as a hentai sim, ie: Kanon, Air, Comic Party, To Heart, Mizuiro, Da Capo, etc.
The sex scenes in those games aren't really needed, they are just thrown in to appeal to h-fans, and even then, the scenes are usually really short.
If they get popular enough, they get ported over to a console and have the h-scenes removed, and is usually followed by an anime.
For those games, the strong part is the storyline/characters, rather than just playing it for the h-scenes.
The downside to the game -> anime conversion is because the games usually have the player focusing on one girl's storyline, during the conversion to anime, most of the girl's storyline's gets shafted in favor of the 'best ending girl', thus usually most of the events in the game are edited/cut out.
Strong examples are Kanon, Comic Party, To Heart, and Mizuiro. Most of the storylines from the game are cut out. Mizuiro has a truely beautiful storyline. The two episode series didn't do it justice :P
Oh.... okay thanks for the explaination. The sound like interesting games. Too bad they don't bring them to the US.
I think if dating sims like D.C, KgNE, and Kanon were ported over to the US market I know a lot of ppl who would buy it, know I would. I think at least one company should take a chance to import and translate one of those games mentioned above to the US market you never know it might be a hit. Or has this been done before and failed. If the US companies are worried about the sex scenes they could always edit them out I don't see what the big problem is.
Village Idiot
2003-12-01, 01:48
Oh.... okay thanks for the explaination. The sound like interesting games. Too bad they don't bring them to the US.
Actually, they do.
PeachPrincess and G-Collections translate and bring over bishoujo games.
Unfortuantely, a majority of the games they bring over are the 'sex sex sex sex' type bishoujo games.
There are exceptions though, like Kana, Private Nurse, Seasons of the Sakura (play this game. one of the best bishoujo games made), and Crescendo. Excellent games.
Unfortuantely we may never see games like Kanon, To Heart, etc here, since the companies that created these games isn't interested in bring them over due to poor market.
This is when fan-translation comes in. Someone is already working on a Kanon English Translation Patch for the games, it's about 25% done at the moment.
Unfortuately it's going to take at the very least another year to fully translate Kanon. The game had more text than a half-dozen scripts of 'Romeo and Juliet' 0_o
But, this may change.
Some game companies are taking a chance and translating bishoujo games, like the Sakura Taisen series (Working Designs).
If Sakura Taisen gets popular enough, maybe, just maybe, we'll see more bishoujo games translated here.
I'm happy to heat that. :)
Seasons of the Sakura (play this game. one of the best bishoujo games made)
Wasn't that "Sakura no Kisetsu?" That's the one where they threw in a bunch of characters from Evangelion, Rayearth, and Saint Tail wasn't it? Wow, brings back so many memories...it was a big thing in Japan. Everyone was wondering when that softhouse was going to get busted for infringing on copyrights ^^;
brightman
2003-12-01, 15:05
OK... I watched Ep 22....
As expected, NO MORE SIDE STORIES...
And as for the episode
It starts off a bit surprising actually... Seemed like one of the earlier, pre-15 episodes since the characters seemed like they're back to their old selves. But of course, it gets back on track with a beautiful and a bittersweet ending.
Seems like the trend will continue until all the girls are covered.
Esoteria
2003-12-01, 17:09
I had thought Seasons of Sakura was hentai. At any rate I have trouble installing the version I picked up from K++. If I had a version of Windows based on the FAT32 file system I might have more of a prayer. As it stands I don't feel like reformatting any of my hard drives to FAT32 since they're all too big to sacrifice the performance that such a change would make.
Again, if anyone knows a good way to access some of these games, I'd love to try them out.
Esoteria
2003-12-01, 17:21
Just realized I could've edited my last post instead of making this new one. Oh well.
Was Kimi ga Nozomu Eien originally a hentai game or just a non-H dating sim?
All of these games make me want to learn Japanese much faster.
Village Idiot
2003-12-01, 18:06
I had thought Seasons of Sakura was hentai. At any rate I have trouble installing the version I picked up from K++. If I had a version of Windows based on the FAT32 file system I might have more of a prayer. As it stands I don't feel like reformatting any of my hard drives to FAT32 since they're all too big to sacrifice the performance that such a change would make.
Again, if anyone knows a good way to access some of these games, I'd love to try them out.
I think you downloaded the 14 meg or so version. That version of Seasons of the Sakura is a DOS only game and doesn't work with WinXP.
JAST-USA re-released Seasons of the Sakura along with several other DOS only games in a 'JAST Memorial Pack' with enhanced sound that can run in WinXP
Just realized I could've edited my last post instead of making this new one. Oh well.
Was Kimi ga Nozomu Eien originally a hentai game or just a non-H dating sim?
All of these games make me want to learn Japanese much faster.
It's a definitely a hentai-sim...ton of h-scenes in the game, though the story is much, MUCH better than an average hentai game.
Seems like the trend will continue until all the girls are covered.
Ya, and if the anime is going to continue like the game, the only characters left to resolve are:
Miharu and Kotori, which should take up an episode each. I'm guessing ep25 and maybe 26 will be a Nemu/Sakura episode and 26 is a nice conclusion to the series, ala To Heart
Da Capo is probably the most well done bishoujo game -> anime conversion I've ever seen. So far, almost the entire game has been covered. (the anime version of Kanon only had around 20% of the game, and To Heart had less than 10%).
brightman
2003-12-01, 21:44
Da Capo is probably the most well done bishoujo game -> anime conversion I've ever seen. So far, almost the entire game has been covered. (the anime version of Kanon only had around 20% of the game, and To Heart had less than 10%).
Maybe that's because Da Capo is a 26 episode series while Kanon and To Heart are both 13 episodes? :heh:
Village Idiot
2003-12-01, 21:56
Maybe that's because Da Capo is a 26 episode series while Kanon and To Heart are both 13 episodes? :heh:
Ya thats a good reason :)
They should have made Kanon and To Heart a 26 episode series instead and add in more of each girl's storylines.
The Kanon game must be played. It's a million times sadder than the anime :sad:
haha..yes I have gotten through that post..interesting uber spoiler...also if AG3 and Doddler (fellow members)find out about your opinion of h-games, they will definitely come flying for some conversion post and believe me they are very convincing..great post overall :D
*Sniff* I'm touched :P
Unfortunately, I'm a bit late, it seems this has already been discussed. Otherwise I would have done another conversion rant ^_^
I'll have to keep a better eye out for this kind of stuff :D
Doddler
Haha...Now the reunion would be complete if only AG3's sense of smell is still functional...:D
dannylu88
2003-12-02, 03:42
can somebody tell me what is up wit tha cat dude?
bluemist
2003-12-02, 04:36
I saw the site for the DCPS game. Gaah more girls! Too bad they aren't in the anime.
Am I correct on saying Da Capo is the only bishoujo game-to-anime conversion to ever reach 26 eps? All others seem to play around the 12-14 episode range, which is IMO not enough.
Okay, I finished no bishoujo game, but I think it has a magnitude of a script. Whenever it turns into anime they would remove a lot of dialogue.
Village Idiot
2003-12-02, 04:41
Maybe they'll leave the ending open ended and make a 13 episode continuation while adding in the new girls?
Am I correct on saying Da Capo is the only bishoujo game-to-anime conversion to ever reach 26 eps? All others seem to play around the 12-14 episode range, which is IMO not enough.
But they had to add a bunch of (mostly annoying) fluff called the Side Stories to stretch it out to 26 episodes. Probably would have only been 16-18 episodes if they just left out the Side Stories.
-- Sour-Do
AnimeMuyou!
bluemist
2003-12-02, 04:54
Maybe they'll leave the ending open ended and make a 13 episode continuation while adding in the new girls?
Calling it Da Capo Re Pure? Nah.
I won't complain about those side stories, but I would complain about those pointless music videos instead.
Calling it Da Capo Re Pure? Nah.
I won't complain about those side stories, but I would complain about those pointless music videos instead.
Actually, those were very interesting additions to Japanese D.C. fans...it gave us a preview of the seiyuus doing the voice acting for the D.C.P.S. game for the PS2. It's part advertisement, and for Japanese otakus who also love seiyuus, that was a very amusing thing that they did.
Horie Yui-sama~
bluemist
2003-12-02, 05:01
Hmm... maybe it's me. I kinda hated Horie Yui's MTV for Love Destiny (Sister Princess OP). Since then I refused to watch any MTV.
Esoteria
2003-12-04, 21:36
Any ideas on where to access the Jast USA Memorial Pack without... *cough*... paying for it? It's not that I mind paying the money for something I intend to enjoy. It's that I refuse to have a reputation for playing hentai games, and thus I would not like to own one. While I can play one or two I hear have very good stories in private and just skip over the sex scenes, I can't hide a box or CD... heh. Besides that, I hear Jast gets enough money off of some of their... shall we say... less than ethical (in a few aspects of the term) marketing. I won't try to elaborate on that.
Village Idiot
2003-12-05, 02:37
Any ideas on where to access the Jast USA Memorial Pack without... *cough*... paying for it? It's not that I mind paying the money for something I intend to enjoy. It's that I refuse to have a reputation for playing hentai games, and thus I would not like to own one. While I can play one or two I hear have very good stories in private and just skip over the sex scenes, I can't hide a box or CD... heh. Besides that, I hear Jast gets enough money off of some of their... shall we say... less than ethical (in a few aspects of the term) marketing. I won't try to elaborate on that.
Buy the games, support the company.
You see this is one of the reasons why games like Da Capo isn't released here.
Esoteria
2003-12-05, 18:46
That's easy enough to say, but when all I want is to take a look at S of S, it's difficult to go through the trouble of finding a hentai game online, buying it for a massive markup (and shipping), only to find out that other than that one thing, everything else is something I don't like.
Anyway, enough about that. Da Capo 21 is out and it could not be downloading any slower. Guess that's what happens when there's all of three seeds for it at this point. =D
That's easy enough to say, but when all I want is to take a look at S of S, it's difficult to go through the trouble of finding a hentai game online, buying it for a massive markup (and shipping), only to find out that other than that one thing, everything else is something I don't like.
Anyway, enough about that. Da Capo 21 is out and it could not be downloading any slower. Guess that's what happens when there's all of three seeds for it at this point. =D
The 21st episode of D.C. was so sweet...Yoriko-san is geki-moe~! in this episode. (;´д⊂ )
Although I am interested in why they didn't use the Yoriko-Misaki connection that was written in the game, nor Misaki's relationship with the Mizukoshi sisters...
ep21 was really nice.
seems like the cat dude left on a ship, I wonder if he'll be back. This is what they should've done with the side episodes put it in the begining. I see they changed the ED them song. That song is perfect, I love it. Man I can't wait for ep22 Yoriko finally gets a date with Asakura. Since Sakura killed the tree everyones hopes and wishes will die. So Yoriko will turn back a cat again, its gonna be sad. I wonder what happened to her master that she was staying with in that house.
Damn, persistent animators. Tricked me watching that side episode. This episode was my least favorite for all those random emotion. All those different emotions was crammed into a 13 minute episode. Its evident they are running out of story. No matter, only five episodes left. Moe, as usual was funny and extremely cute, the cutest of all IMO. It was funny when she was telling them that the turtle left from her Nabe and Suginami was doing calculations to see how fast the turtle moved..hehe
Mephisto03
2003-12-06, 06:29
That was great I was laughing so much when (forgot her name) said "I dont think anyone cares about that right now" or something like that and then that happens, soooo funny. Well in my eyes it was, bah!
That was great I was laughing so much when (forgot her name) said "I dont think anyone cares about that right now" or something like that and then that happens, soooo funny. Well in my eyes it was, bah!
me too Moe can be so funny, I think shes a little ku ku in brains.
The one who said "I dont think anyone cares about that right now" was Mako, Moes younger sister.
eMpTy265
2003-12-06, 18:01
That's easy enough to say, but when all I want is to take a look at S of S, it's difficult to go through the trouble of finding a hentai game online, buying it for a massive markup (and shipping), only to find out that other than that one thing, everything else is something I don't like.
Well, usually many people here have played the game(s) that people mention.
So maybe if you could post a question about the plot, and maybe some kind soul will give you a plot description, and whether the game's worth buying. =D
Esoteria
2003-12-08, 22:14
Anime often makes me want to hop into the drawn world and give [cute girl] a big hug. Yoriko caused such an instance. *sniff* I wuv you, Yoriko... screw Nemu and all of 'em. Take Asakura for yourself!
Okay, enough disgustingness. I found the ending to the side episodes rather... unusually usual, but fitting. If anyone understands what I meant by that, props.
I await the next episode anxiously as always.
May I say, though, that, assuming it was not the fault of one of my codecs, D.C. 21 had some of the crappiest quality of any modern-day anime fansub I've seen in my life. I was incredibly disappointed. AonE / HQA is already WAY ahead of the other groups, so I wish that if possible, they would keep us waiting a bit longer and use a better raw in the future. =///////////////.
[Edit]
Just noticed the post by um... crap, can't look at threads while editing. The timer for DarkAnime. FREAKING PROPS to Dark on the INCREDIBLE improvement in translation and editing for Naruto last episode. I felt blasphemous at first clicking on the DarkAnime fansub for download considering how terrible the last translation was, but man was I in for a surprise. Biggest improvement I've seen... ever.
I was wondering if anyone has the CG set or the game save files that they could send me...
just wondering 2 things, please anwser if you can
Who is that cat guy?(I seen the haunted house one, and its seems that the boy in the family photo looks like asakura and looks like hes holding what could be the cat guy in.. cat form)
And why does Asakura see that girl as that pink teddy bear thing?
Esoteria
2003-12-11, 13:44
As for the pink bear... well.... The best answer is "don't ask." There are lots of things like that.
Mistwrath
2003-12-11, 14:53
Which episode did the pink bear appeared in ? I can't seem to remember and a little busy to check on it :D
Village Idiot
2003-12-11, 16:09
The pink bear appears in every episode.
any response on the cat guy thou?
just wondering 2 things, please anwser if you can
Who is that cat guy?(I seen the haunted house one, and its seems that the boy in the family photo looks like asakura and looks like hes holding what could be the cat guy in.. cat form)
And why does Asakura see that girl as that pink teddy bear thing?
Same reason as why Shirakawa Kotori can "listen/hear" what other people think, same reason why Mizukoshi Moe-senpai is always daydreaming, same reason why Yoriko-san was able to become a maid, same reason why Asakura Junichi can "peek" into people's dreams and make Japanese candy, same reason why Yoshino Sakura looks like a child, and same reason why Asakura Nemu started to cough up sakura petals...the power of the main cherry blossom tree.
bluemist
2003-12-12, 05:20
Hmm... I thought Moe's 'Mutsumi-like (Love Hina)' attitude was natural...
And of all the effects of the cherry blossom tree, Nemu's seems life-threatening.
It be interesting to see what everyone is like after Sakura kills the tree
back to being prick, urr, I mean normal as the reality hits as Sakura kills the tree:D..no more magic, no more magical candy, no cat-eared freaky guy, no more one guy getting all the chicks.. as for :love:Moe:love:, she lives in the reality already, so her personality begs to differ for what sort of reality/fantasy she lives in..Go Moe and your Nabe.. So, did anyone figure it out yet how fast the turtle was moving as it escaped from Moe's Nabe?
Village Idiot
2003-12-12, 15:30
We might see a 2nd season of Da Capo after all.
The sequel game, D.C: White Season takes place a year or two after the first game, with the characters as seniors.
bluemist
2003-12-12, 16:07
Is that aside from the DCPS game which has new characters on it?
eMpTy265
2003-12-12, 16:36
We might see a 2nd season of Da Capo after all.
The sequel game, D.C: White Season takes place a year or two after the first game, with the characters as seniors.
Hmm... do you know which ending DC:WS assumes for DC then?
We might see a 2nd season of Da Capo after all.
The sequel game, D.C: White Season takes place a year or two after the first game, with the characters as seniors.
Umm...no. D.C. White Season was an append disc. It takes place in the same year that D.C. ended (D.C. story ends in Spring), in the winter, and is basically is an after story of all the characters (you choose which one you ended with on the D.C.). It's about spending Christmas with your favorite characters, and is a VERY short story.
relentlessflame
2003-12-13, 02:27
Apologies in advance for the length of this post.
I just figured I'd chime in to say how much I am loving this anime, especially the most recent episodes. I was enjoying the series a fair bit in it's "first half", but the second half has been really amazing so far.
It seems to me that a good way to watch the recent episodes would be to re-cut them into two parts: 16-18 and 19-21, main episodes only with no cuts or credits in between episodes. It just seems to me they flow so nicely together. Although I don't mind the side episodes, they definitely affect the story pacing as it gets more serious in the second half.
(Minor spoilers, in case you haven't seen the recent fansub releases...)
During the first part of the series, I definitely found myself hoping that Junichi would choose Kotori; her story is just very touching. When Nemu and Junichi confessed their feelings and kissed for that first time, I was shocked... but also hooked. It was so beautiful. I was a little surprised that they confessed their feelings so early on, though, and I found myself almost dreading each future episode knowing that further plot may come between them. I definitely hope they end up together in the end now, and would be quite upset if they didn't! How sad, eh?
Episode 19 in particular is one of my favorites, and so I wanted to add some fuel to the discussion about the ending...
I have to admit that one of the main questions in my mind was... just how close did they get? Just to add a bit of fuel to the discussion, though, consider the beginning of episode 20. Nemu talks about Junichi being cool at the wierdest times, Junichi talks about Nemu wanting to rush things too much, and Nemu responds with her concern that "we'll run out of time"... Also consider that when Nemu kisses him in the morning, he says "But we already did that when I woke up". I couldn't help but be reminded of one of the dreams early on in the series, where Junichi wakes up to see Nemu laying in bed next to him asking to do the thing they do every morning (which, although in Episode 1 we see that the action in question is him checking her temperature, in this dream the implication was that it was a kiss). Anyways, I wonder if that was foreshadowing, in a way.
My personal opinion on the matter is that Nemu and Junichi did sleep in the same bed and kissed when they woke up, but didn't actually go too much futher, based on Junichi's stated concern about not rushing things too much. This is enforced further by Junichi's words to Nemu at the end of episode 20, which seem to settle thier commitment to each other. If they had already gone "that far", it would diminish the impact of his words and her tears right before she collapses. (Perhaps I am romanticizing the act too much though, given the original source of the story and characters.)
I was also thinking the other day about whether or not this anime and others like it would ever get licensed and officially translated... which is, of course, very doubtful. But, I also wonder if anyone could truly do this series justice in an "North American" English sub/dub. For example, both Nemu and Sakura constantly call Junichi "nii-san" and "onii-chan" respectively, but how would you translate that? Surely, you wouldn't replace all the instances with "brother", as that would just sound strange I would think. There is a sort of careful balance in Da Capo, with two potential relationships being on the edge of what some consider wrong, and I don't know if that balance could ever get properly represented in North American culture. (Even this very thread can serve as some sort of an example of the kinds of cultural prejudices brought to the table.) On the one hand, I would love to purchase an official DVD set if it had English subs in the same style as the fansubs, but I find the thought of a North American "adaptation" of the series almost frightening... which is why I'm sure it won't happen. This is why I'm especially thankful for the fansub community; it gives me an opportunity to watch excellent anime that I would likely never get a chance to see otherwise.
Anyways, this anime is very touching and beautiful, especially in the second part. Not quite as sad as Kanon, but definitely right up there. I'm loving it, and can't wait to watch the rest of the series. Apologies again for the length.
EternalBlue
2003-12-13, 11:16
hehe I just finished 21....ARGH I can't wait for 22-26 to come out lol. 21 has a great resolution to some things but draws you into the next ep....too bad it aint fansubbed yet -_-; or if anyone knows where it is subbed alrdy please tell me, I really want to see the next one haha ^^
Esoteria
2003-12-13, 12:31
"The cat guy," as far as I can tell, is an anomaly representing a male (almost fatherly) influence other than Junichi to the girls. Note that none of these girls seem to have parents (on the island). We see almost a "family moment" in situations like when Kotori is with the cat. Other than that, I think he's supposed to be just plain weird, like much of the anime (such as Miharu being a robot. That's just absurd).
A good post, relentlessflame, and I didn't feel the length at all. =) Always good to have an intelligent speaker on forums. Someone who's not trying to argue any point so much as just express an opinion. Anyhoo, I'm thinking the series wouldn't be so unlikely to be translated and brought over. There are a lot of things going against it, though. First and foremost is the theme of (in North American terms) incest. That won't go over well, and would probably bump the rating of the discs up to whatever the next level would be. The fact that it's based on an ero-game would probably not worry producers too much. About the 'nii-san thing, I think you're right in that saying something like "brother" would hold a different cannotation. However, this is, as you know, not the first anime to have a non-blood-related relationship between 'sister' and 'brother' in which the Japanese was originally used. It's up to the translators to decide what to do with it. They won't necessarily keep even the same sentence structure when translating.
Yes, Episode 22 is late. Very late. I want Soldats to catch up, because I've always loved that group. (Kaze no Yojimbo... One of the best series of all time... Soldats were the only ones to pick it up and sub it.)
Oh, and I can't really say one way or another if I think Nemu and Junichi slept together in his bed. You make some good points about that possibility, but I for some reason get the feeling that they will sleep together (non-sexual) sometime later, probably not in either of their beds, and use that as a sort of relationship-strengthening moment. I can't see it happening this early on when we still have five episodes to go on their relationship. If they've already slept together clean, and they've already kissed rather... passionately like they did, what's left? I think we know. So since we know that won't happen in the anime, I'm thinking they'll have another step to their physical relationship before the end of the series, and I see very few options based on those restraints.
relentlessflame
2003-12-13, 15:07
Anyhoo, I'm thinking the series wouldn't be so unlikely to be translated and brought over. There are a lot of things going against it, though. First and foremost is the theme of (in North American terms) incest. That won't go over well, and would probably bump the rating of the discs up to whatever the next level would be. The fact that it's based on an ero-game would probably not worry producers too much. About the 'nii-san thing, I think you're right in that saying something like "brother" would hold a different cannotation. However, this is, as you know, not the first anime to have a non-blood-related relationship between 'sister' and 'brother' in which the Japanese was originally used. It's up to the translators to decide what to do with it. They won't necessarily keep even the same sentence structure when translating.
That is true. Despite the other localizations I've seen, many of which were actually quite good, I still have a hard time imagining this series working in "North American" English. Although, if it does happen, I'm definitely buying the DVDs... even if I only end up watching the sub!
Oh, and I can't really say one way or another if I think Nemu and Junichi slept together in his bed. You make some good points about that possibility, but I for some reason get the feeling that they will sleep together (non-sexual) sometime later, probably not in either of their beds, and use that as a sort of relationship-strengthening moment. I can't see it happening this early on when we still have five episodes to go on their relationship. If they've already slept together clean, and they've already kissed rather... passionately like they did, what's left? I think we know. So since we know that won't happen in the anime, I'm thinking they'll have another step to their physical relationship before the end of the series, and I see very few options based on those restraints.
Yeah, actually, I watched 19 and 20 again last night after posting, and I think I agree with you. There really is no way of saying what specifically happened after the end of the show, and the hints are really there to leave you guessing. Actually, I think we're better off that way too. (I kind of wonder, though, if things were not so nebulous in the original game. I wonder how closely the storylines match?) I definitely agree, though, there are definitely more steps they have to take in their relationship before the end of the series, on physical, emotional, and even (almost especially) social levels. I can't wait to see what happens next; 22 can't come quickly enough!
Thanks for the reply!
Esoteria
2003-12-14, 18:47
I can't wait to see what happens next; 22 can't come quickly enough!
Word to that. I've been anticipating.. and anticipating.. and...
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anticipating its release.
On a slightly less happy note, check out the post on Evangelion I posted. It's in the general anime section.
Iron Monkey
2003-12-14, 19:04
I was also thinking the other day about whether or not this anime and others like it would ever get licensed and officially translated... which is, of course, very doubtful. But, I also wonder if anyone could truly do this series justice in an "North American" English sub/dub. For example, both Nemu and Sakura constantly call Junichi "nii-san" and "onii-chan" respectively, but how would you translate that? Surely, you wouldn't replace all the instances with "brother", as that would just sound strange I would think. There is a sort of careful balance in Da Capo, with two potential relationships being on the edge of what some consider wrong, and I don't know if that balance could ever get properly represented in North American culture. (Even this very thread can serve as some sort of an example of the kinds of cultural prejudices brought to the table.) On the one hand, I would love to purchase an official DVD set if it had English subs in the same style as the fansubs, but I find the thought of a North American "adaptation" of the series almost frightening... which is why I'm sure it won't happen. This is why I'm especially thankful for the fansub community; it gives me an opportunity to watch excellent anime that I would likely never get a chance to see otherwise.
Anyways, this anime is very touching and beautiful, especially in the second part. Not quite as sad as Kanon, but definitely right up there. I'm loving it, and can't wait to watch the rest of the series. Apologies again for the length.
Well, Da Capo's pretty tame in terms of the brother-sister relationship compared to something like Sister Princess, and if that could be licnensed, I don't think it would be far fetched to say Da Capo could potentially be licensed as well.
brightman
2003-12-14, 19:29
Well, Da Capo's pretty tame in terms of the brother-sister relationship compared to something like Sister Princess, and if that could be licnensed, I don't think it would be far fetched to say Da Capo could potentially be licensed as well.
Well, nothing will compare with Angel Sanctuary, which has TWIN BROTHER AND SISTER having sex. And that one turned out popular after being licensed too.
Well, nothing will compare with Angel Sanctuary, which has TWIN BROTHER AND SISTER having sex. And that one turned out popular after being licensed too.
:eek: I've heard that Angel Sanctuary had incest but is it that bad
Xellos-_^
2003-12-14, 23:02
:eek: I've heard that Angel Sanctuary had incest but is it that bad
The problem with the Angel Sanctury Anime was that the people who had read the manga expected more form it. The anime cut a lot out form the manga.
The manga itself is great. One of the best stories I ever read. However it isn't for everyone. If you have a problem with incest or if you have a problem with the way AS depicts christianity then you should avoid AS.
Tensai_kamen
2003-12-14, 23:02
:eek: I've heard that Angel Sanctuary had incest but is it that bad
I don't sure about them being twin but they r both clearly blood related which r in this case a blatant incest relationship unlike da capo. As conclusion IMHO Angel Sanctuary is THAT BAD.
Village Idiot
2003-12-15, 12:10
*watches ep24 raw*
WHY DAMN IT?! WHY!!!!
T_T *cries*
Miharu and Asakura goes to the sakura tree, where when they were little, Asakura and the real Miharu buried their treasure underneath it. I'm not sure, but I think Asakura wanted robot Miharu to place her treasure down there as well. They dug it up, and we see Asakura's treasure, a big giant robot, and the real Miharu's treasure, a music box and attached to the robot is a letter. No idea what it says though, but Asakura blushes like hell when he reads it. Then Asakura reads robot Miharu's letter that she wrote. Again, no idea what it says, but it's about Asakura and both Asakura and Miharu gets extremely embarassed over it. Miharu ends up shutting down for good shortly after T_T. The next day, Asakura learns that Miharu's 'key' opens up the music box. Inside is a letter from the real Miharu to Asakura, the exact same letter that robot Miharu had written. Asakura completely breaks down afterwards.
The biggest cliffhanger is at the end of the episode, when Sakura notices that the sakura tree has come back to life.
*watches ep24 raw*
WHY DAMN IT?! WHY!!!!
T_T *cries*
Meh...the storyline in the game was much better for Miharu's route. But then again, anime version D.C. has not disappointed me...with only two more episodes to go, it's the final showdown between Nemu and Sakura.
...hey! Where did Moe-senpai's story go?! I understand Mako not being shown because it was shown several eps ago, but Moe-senpai is also a character influenced by the sakura tree. Where's her story about constantly going to sleep to "meet" her long lost love? Ah, well. The sakura tree blossommed once again, probably another of "grandma's power" or Sakura may still have some strong feelings against Nemu somewhere inside her...
Nemu.... (;´д⊂ )
Village Idiot
2003-12-15, 21:35
What's the difference between the anime and the game version of D.C?
brightman
2003-12-16, 07:45
I don't sure about them being twin but they r both clearly blood related which r in this case a blatant incest relationship unlike da capo. As conclusion IMHO Angel Sanctuary is THAT BAD.
Yeah, they're twins as mentioned later on in the manga... I guess since they're both reincarnations of unrelated angels there's *some* sort of counterpoint to this (but then again they are both reincarnation of FEMALE angels so there's another weird relationship right there).
What's the difference between the anime and the game version of D.C?
Game has multiple endings, and anime can only have one?
Village Idiot
2003-12-16, 11:04
Other than the obvious difference...
Wandering_Youth
2003-12-16, 11:19
Hmm :eyebrow: . I for one did not like the episodes after 17 especially where Nemu and Jui get all lovey dovey like it's a wonderful world, but I did like the side stories. I find the side stories to be quite interesting because it was a way for the artist to express their art and creativity. From reading the earlier post, it sounds like Jui is not going to end up with Nemu at all, odd. Nemu is cute and all but, even though she's not blood related to Jui their relationship is still bothering me. It sounds like Miss Swindler is going to turn back into a cat too. Aww! The closest thing to a dating sim game that I have played was Harvest Moon 64 and it was quite fun.
...hey! Where did Moe-senpai's story go?! I understand Mako not being shown because it was shown several eps ago, but Moe-senpai is also a character influenced by the sakura tree. Where's her story about constantly going to sleep to "meet" her long lost love?
I too wish for her story in the anime since she is one of my favorite girls in the show. I can't help but laugh and smile at all the silly thing she says and does.
EternalBlue
2003-12-16, 17:58
You watched ep 24 raw? Could you tell me where to download them, I've only been able to find up to ep21...
You watched ep 24 raw? Could you tell me where to download them, I've only been able to find up to ep21...
P2P servers closed off to Japanese-speaking people are the first to have raws...usually 2-3 hours after the original air time. In this case, D.C. airs on every Saturday midnight on TV Kanagawa.
Anlushac11
2003-12-17, 05:55
Meh...the storyline in the game was much better for Miharu's route. But then again, anime version D.C. has not disappointed me...with only two more episodes to go, it's the final showdown between Nemu and Sakura.
...hey! Where did Moe-senpai's story go?! I understand Mako not being shown because it was shown several eps ago, but Moe-senpai is also a character influenced by the sakura tree. Where's her story about constantly going to sleep to "meet" her long lost love? Ah, well. The sakura tree blossommed once again, probably another of "grandma's power" or Sakura may still have some strong feelings against Nemu somewhere inside her...
Nemu.... (;´д⊂ )
What the hell is wrong with you people that you cant use a damm spoiler tag. I didnt know that about why Moe sleeps.
Some of you people seem to get a kick out of blurting out plot points with glee so us who havent seen it are ruined.
Thats why I have damm near quit coming to these forums because so many people dont have enough consideration not to reveal plot points to those who havent.
I guess ppl tend to forget to use spoiler tags, it happens. I personally don't care about spoilers too much since I'm eventually going to forget what I read on the forums :heh: but I can see why some ppl hate to be spoiled when they don't wan't to.
SO PPL PLEASE USE SPOILER TAGS WHICH MAY GIVE AWAY PLOT POINTS. That is all, thank you for your cooperation.
I'm sorry, I always keep forgetting that this board is in America, where most people who are watching this anime hasn't played the game like Japan.
I'm sorry, I always keep forgetting that this board is in America, where most people who are watching this anime hasn't played the game like Japan.
No problem just make sure you use spoiler tags when mentioning the plot of the game or the actual future episodes that haven't been subbed yet.
On a side note this board isn't maintained in America. The site maintainers are from the U.K. It just so happens that the majority of ppl here speak in English.
:topicoff: The mods are scattered in various countries, actually, and not just in the U.K.
Why not start a new thread just for spoilers, then, on "Da Capo" (game endings and such)?
:topicoff: The mods are scattered in various countries, actually, and not just in the U.K.
Why not start a new thread just for spoilers, then, on "Da Capo" (game endings and such)?
I know that but I was actually referring to the sites founders, where it orignated from.
Now back on topic, I hope Ep 22 and 23 comes out soon. I really wan't to see Asakura's date with the cat girl.
EternalBlue
2003-12-18, 22:23
Hmm yea I really want to see the next few too, the little screencaps on the official site look interesting. Hope it's released soon ^^
Anyone have any idea why Sakura always refers to herself with "boku"? I don't know much about Japanese, but I thought boku was usually only used by guys, or maybe tomboyish girls. Sakura doesn't seem very tomboyish though.
Lord Raiden
2003-12-19, 19:51
Ok, I admit I'm stepping into this kinda late (yeah, 21 episodes later is kinda late) but I've been trying to catch up on other anime. Got too many to watch to stay up to date these days. Sheesh.
Ok, anyways, couple of questions. What's up with the weird neko doll the one girl runs around with? It was on her head in ep 2 when she was sneaking up to the window. And what's up with one kid's magic? How powerful is he? Or are those basically fancy parlor tricks? I know I'll probubly get more answered later, but curiousity doesn't lend me to wait that long. :D
KBTKaiser
2003-12-19, 20:48
1) Neko doll? That's a live cat named Utamaru. Don't be decieved by the looks.
2) Junichi's magic? It ain't no parlor trick. (See ep 15 for details on the magic)
And something to keep this topic rolling...
I was just glancing through hatsunejima.com and was deciphering the ep 25 summary when a lightning bolt struck me(figuratively). What are your thoughts about Nemu falling ill again?
brightman
2003-12-19, 21:05
Anyone have any idea why Sakura always refers to herself with "boku"? I don't know much about Japanese, but I thought boku was usually only used by guys, or maybe tomboyish girls. Sakura doesn't seem very tomboyish though.
Seems to be a trend with certain styles of cute anime females... From the back of my head, Ayu from Kanon and Mireille from .hack//Twilight also use it for some reason, even though they don't act very tomboy like either (though they do have personalities similar to Sakura's in some ways)
Lord Raiden
2003-12-19, 23:35
Episode 25??? Dude, I only see up through 21 on the site. Well, of course if they're posted elsewhere I could understand that. :)
KBTKaiser
2003-12-19, 23:59
Raiden, I'm talking about Da Capo's official site at www.hatsunejima.com
They have ep summaries up to ep 25.
Lord Raiden
2003-12-20, 09:20
Ah, ok. :D I was wondering how you got ahold of that. hehe
relentlessflame
2003-12-20, 11:53
And something to keep this topic rolling...
I was just glancing through hatsunejima.com and was deciphering the ep 25 summary when a lightning bolt struck me(figuratively). What are your thoughts about Nemu falling ill again?
Here's my number one fear for the ending of this show, given that I have absolutely no clue how it's going to end. I'm going to put it in spoiler tags, because there are references to things that have already happened, but obviously I have no idea what's going to happen. (I've only seen up to 21, also.)
Nemu falls sick again, and when she wakes up, she can't remember anything of what's happened over the last few months. Her feelings for Asakura are gone. Then their parents come home. The dream is over, Asakura goes back to being her brother, Sakura returns to America. The end.
Or worse yet, Nemu falls sick and dies, because it was the power of the Sakura tree that kept her alive all these years... but I think that's just exceptionally cruel.
If something like that happens to end the series, I would be unbelievably upset. Please, just don't do it! At least the ending to Kanon was somewhat happy, so I still have hope...
relentlessflame
2003-12-20, 12:02
Aw geez... just checked out the official website and went about deciphering the Episode 25 summary also... and came up with a worse potential ending...
It all really *was* all just a dream. The power of the Sakura tree was supposed to make wishes and dreams come true, but with that power gone, everyone wakes up from the dream world...
Aw geez... please don't do it! Man, I am almost dreading the ending now... but at the same time I can't wait to see what happens! Grr...
hmm..if either of those happens, especially the first one, then I would have to say that the animators will be chickening out from all those complication they have created up to these point. They dont know how or they dont dare to do a different kind of ending. It will be sad if Nemu dies in the end. Good theories. I always thought that the easy way to end the story for them would be to show that these are all nothing but dreams of the oni-chan
edit: heh..I have just seen your second post with the spoilers..heh..
relentlessflame
2003-12-20, 12:24
hmm..if either of those happens, especially the first one, then I would have to say that the animators will be chickening out from all those complication they have created up to these point. They dont know how or they dont dare to do a different kind of ending. It will be sad if Nemu dies in the end. Good theories. I always thought that the easy way to end the story for them would be to show that these are all nothing but dreams of the oni-chan
Yeah, I agree - these endings would be chickening out.
One of the things that surprised me the most about this series is the recurring theme of consequences. Unlike so many anime which just kind of seem to "reset" every so often, the main characters in Da Capo made decisions, and those decisions had wide ranging consequences. Asakura's decision about Nemu, Sakura's decision about the Sakura tree... in most animes of this type (at least the ones I've seen), all these decisions would have happened right at the very very end, with only maybe one episode for denouement. In this series, though, they chose to do it a lot sooner, which really surprised me. That's why I definitely agree that any of these "bad" ending ideas would be chickening out.
Anyways, I guess all we can do now is wait and see what happens. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the next episodes can't come quickly enough!
Lord Raiden
2003-12-20, 18:43
I hope they don't chicken out. Especially since I want to find out who that d*mn cat guy is!!
KBTKaiser
2003-12-20, 18:54
Well, here's my take on the cat guys.
The cat guy who scared Nemu and Mako away from the house is probably the grumpy dad. The trenchcoated one is probably the one with the relationship with Sakura's Grandmother. And the trenchcoated one probably has a good reason to be associated with some of the girls (Kotori, Sakura, Nemu) while only watching others (Yoriko, Moe, Mako, Miharu[was she even anywhere close to the cat guys?]) Maybe a connection with the elder generation or two?
Lord Raiden
2003-12-21, 03:14
Good Lord, I'm sitting here watching Da Capo trying to get caught up on the episodes, and it's one side story after another. The show bounces around about as much as a soap opera almost. Sheesh. Not only that, but all the humor seems to have gone out of it and now we're riding some emotional rollercoaster from hell. Sheesh.......I want more!! :D:D:D
This has really got me curious for the last 5 episodes now. I wanna see how they end this, because it ought to be just something else. :D
Aw geez... just checked out the official website and went about deciphering the Episode 25 summary also... and came up with a worse potential ending...
It all really *was* all just a dream. The power of the Sakura tree was supposed to make wishes and dreams come true, but with that power gone, everyone wakes up from the dream world...
Aw geez... please don't do it! Man, I am almost dreading the ending now... but at the same time I can't wait to see what happens! Grr...
It is "a dream," but not in the way you think of it.
If you had played the game beforehand, you will know:
"Dream" in this case means something closer to "wish" in English. Everyone wishes for something.
Kotori wishes to know what everyone is thinking, so it is easier for her to live her life - so she doesn't have to put on a fake facade of joy, like she did when she was adopted into the Shirakawa family, which only isolated her from her new family because they couldn't understand her because she was always smiling.
Miharu wishes to know what the REAL Miharu lived like...so she knows she isn't "just a robot."
Yoriko-san wishes to be with Junichi-san, to fufill her owner's wishes to stand alongside with the person her owner has looked at Junichi from faraway...
Moe-senpai wishes to be with her first boyfriend...who died in a car accident. That is why she is always sleepy, because he exists in her dream.
Nemu - has a very simple wish...to go to the same school and be with her beloved oniisan (Junichi)
and Sakura - her wish is also to be with oniichan (Asakura Junichi)
What makes these "wishes" possible is the huge Sakura-tree...the Sakura tree planted by Junichi and Sakura's grandmother, as a final gift for everyone who "wanted to wish for something...and to let them live in a dream...for a little while."
But that Sakura-tree has a tremendous effect to both Junichi and Sakura...because they are direct descendants to their grandmother. Junichi can see other people's dream through this sakura-tree. Sakura, has a strong connection to the sakura-tree.
Going back to the relationship issue of Nemu and Sakura.
Nemu, is an adopted sister to Junichi. No blood relation. Junichi met Nemu first, before Sakura. Though Nemu and Junichi were born on the same day and month, Junichi considers her as his little sister.
Sakura, is Junichi's cousin. They both share the same grandmother - the person who lived right next door to Junichi. There is blood relation...but since Junichi met Nemu first, Sakura is treated by Junichi not as a member of a family - but as a normal girl.
Do you see the pickle? On one hand, you have Nemu - a girl with no blood-relation, who is a member of Junichi's family, as his little sister. On the other, you have Sakura - a girl with blood-relation to Junichi, but cannot stay close to him. The irony exists in both of these two girls, in love with Junichi - Nemu has no blood-relation, but wants to be more than just his little sister, but can't due to law. Sakura, has blood-relation, but cannot stay with Junichi all the time (remember, she went to America). Nemu wants what Sakura's stance to Junichi is, and vice-versa to Sakura.
The "despise" involves Nemu - "uneasy" with Sakura being with Junichi because they can get married (first-cousin marriages in Japan are legal) if they wanted to, but she cannot. Sakura feels "uneasiness" towards Nemu because she, as an adopted little sister, can stay with Junichi all the time, in the same house.
Back to the sakura-tree. Sakura is directly linked to her grandmother's sakura-tree. And as more and more her feelings against Nemu increases, the more damage is going to be done to Nemu....hence she begins to cough up sakura petals, losing her health, and finally - to lose her memory. And Sakura knows its her fault. That is why she chose to delinquish her grandmother's sakura-tree...to save Nemu.
But still, deep down inside her, she still feels angst towards Nemu-chan. The Sakura-tree revives once again. And Sakura, with all her guilt, tries to do everything to save Nemu-chan...but the human psyche of "jealousy" is something that cannot be distinguished like a flame. And as long as Nemu clings on to her "dream" of being with her beloved oniisan, the more and more feeling of angst deep within Sakura develops - involuntarily. And the more they do, they both hurt themselves - Nemu physically, and Sakura - emotionally.
So it is time everyone "wakes up" from their "dream." A "dream" is only a "wish" that cannot happen, and at times can be devastating. Junichi and Sakura's grandmother wanted to teach everyone that, she gave everyone a present so they can live in a "dream" for just a little while - but she forgot that people are rather magnamious...if they choose to stay in a "dream" that can fulfill wishes, they will continue to do so.
And the time has come for people to face the facts. Nothing is "wishful."
Kotori finds this out gradually as she loses her power to listen to what other people think...and develops the courage to work out her own social life not dependent on what other people think, but from what she can do with her own actions.
Yoriko-san, the person/cat who had the most direct influence - got the courage to walk out into the world...the problem that her owner had that prevented her from meeting with Junichi...the person she had always looks from the window above
Miharu, the robot - was given the gift of knowing what it is to be human - to dream what the REAL Miharu's past - and the courage to find that out even if that meant shedding her own life as a robot
Moe-senpai - at least in the game (since the anime never talked about her story in full detail), "awakens" to the reality that her boyfriend is dead...and that she needs to move on and not to escape into the sleep world where he exists.
What do all these people have in common? COURAGE. Courage is what is important for these people to awake from such a "dream" that fulfills their wishes. To live life, people need courage...the courage to make your own actions (not by the help of some power) to make social relations, the courage to step out into the open world (not to stay huddled inside to hope for something that'll never happen), the courage to do what you hold most dearly, and the courage to move on with life.
Now let us hope that Nemu and Sakura can find their courage...and the people of Hatsunejima will be rid of the "dream" that makes any wish possible...so that people will move on...and not "repeat once again" as the musical notation "D.C" (Da Capo) stands for.
Awesome explantion Kj1980. I guess only someone who has actually played the game could understand the world of D.C. like you. D.C. is turning out to be an very good meaniful anime which most people gave up on in earlier episodes, man were they mistaken. The plot is so good, that I can't believe it when I first started watching I thought it was going to be another typical boring love/comedy anime.
AKeep/Aone just realesed ep22, which made me a little sad to see Yoriko turn back into an cat, but at least she kinda fullfilled her masters wish to be with Asakura for an while. Too bad her master couldn't be the one to actually meet Asakura in person. Maybe she will later on.
I really liked the explaination Kj1980 gave. I never played the game. But if it is remotely as good as you summarized it to be I need to play it. They should have spent more time with Moe-chan. If I didn't read that I wouldn't know her full story. Thank you. :)
They should have spent more time with Moe-chan. If I didn't read that I wouldn't know her full story. Thank you. :)
Me too I had no idea Moe had a boyfriend who died in an car accident that was a bit surprising to hear. I have an question maybe KJ or someone who knows can answer this. Does the Sakura tree grant the other townsfolks wishes/dreams also or is it only to a few?
EternalBlue
2003-12-23, 00:14
Hehe awesome. I'm still downloading ep22 but this series has gotten to the top of my list for plot line ^^. I can't wait to se how they decide to finish it, most likely like the game but who knows ^^
Does the Sakura tree grant the other townsfolks wishes/dreams also or is it only to a few?
I'm pretty sure the Sakura Tree affects the other people in the town too, but then they really go into much detail about the townspeople so one can only guess that it does affect them but we never get to see it.
Lord Raiden
2003-12-23, 00:24
Hey, off the subject of the ending (of which I'm now totally dying to see. Thanks guys for recommending this excellent anime!! :D) but I noticed something. What the heck is that big pink teddy I see running around school and in classes?? It's even in a school uni. Is that part of what kj1980 mentioned about dealing with what's happening and the upcoming ending?
Hey, off the subject of the ending (of which I'm now totally dying to see. Thanks guys for recommending this excellent anime!! :D) but I noticed something. What the heck is that big pink teddy I see running around school and in classes?? It's even in a school uni. Is that part of what kj1980 mentioned about dealing with what's happening and the upcoming ending?
read page 7 of this thread and you'll find what that pink teddy bear is about.
I have an question maybe KJ or someone who knows can answer this. Does the Sakura tree grant the other townsfolks wishes/dreams also or is it only to a few?
I would assume the latter there are new characters in the D.C.P.S. that should involve the Sakura tree's impact on those characters one way or the other. But people need to wish hard...not something shallow like "I wish I were rich."
relentlessflame
2003-12-23, 03:02
kj1980 - thank you for your summary. I really wish there were more of a market for games like Da Capo in North America, because I know that I (and many others) would love to play them. I really wish I could understand enough Japanese.
The "dream" ending I was dreading most was more along the lines of "and they all woke up from the dream as if nothing had ever happened".
I guess I was not aware, though, that it would be illegal for Nemu and Asakura to be married, given that there is no blood relation. I certainly realized it would be wierd, though, and that many people would *perceive* it as being wrong. (Then again, in some cultures, people would perceive marrying your first cousin as wrong, also.)
But of course this begs the question... (speculative spoilers)
If both Nemu and Sakura must despise their feelings for Asakura, how can they have the courage (as you so aptly put it) to move on given all that's happened? How can Asakura put aside the feelings he has for Nemu, and pretend as though nothing ever happened, especially when he so clearly decided to stop lying to himself? In other words, how can Nemu and Asakura break up, and go back to the way things were? How can an anime based on a dating sim end up with the guy not being with *any* of the girls?!? How can this series possibly not have a completely sad ending?!? Even Kanon wasn't this sad!
Oh geez... now I'm getting worked up.
Episode 22 was awesome, by the way - thanks to AonE and HQA for the early Christmas present. And once again, I can't wait for the next one! This series is amazing; I agree with Keitarou20: anyone who gave up early on Da Capo is really missing out.
Mistwrath
2003-12-23, 03:24
Finished Epd 22, was one of best epd of them all, but too bad Yoriko have to ... u guys go watch it for yourself if u haven't :D
And judging from kj's explanation, things are still going to get wavey.
Off topic but does anyone know the name of the new ED theme song and who sings it. Thanks
KBTKaiser
2003-12-23, 08:19
Ending song
"Sonzai" translated "Existence"
Lyrics by Rino
Song by ??? (can't seem to get this kanji translated without screwing it up)
Sung by Coorie
Lord Raiden
2003-12-23, 10:04
Yeah, I'm definately going to miss Yoriko. She was one of my favorite charecters in there. Plus the fact that she had been a cat that transformed was neat too. Finding out who she was explained the whole thing with the cat jumping out the window and disappearing. One down, several to go.
Hey, little question here. Nemu is the "adopted" sister of Asakura, which means she's by no means a blood relative. Not even close. So, uh, where in the law would it make it illegal for them to get married? They're only related by a simple little piece of paper that says they're siblings. There's no other relation beyond that. I know that in the US, in a number of states if you are not related by blood, even if you've been adopted into a family, you are allowed to marry another family member. The only thing they care about is your blood relation. If you have none, well, even if both parties are siblings by law and not blood, then they can get married. That's why that seemed weird to me.
As far as the rest of the series, yeah, I figure this is gonna get to be one heck of an emotional ride. I'm definately gonna enjoy the whole thing and I'm very happy I got to watch the series. I love it.
Hey, little question here. Nemu is the "adopted" sister of Asakura, which means she's by no means a blood relative. Not even close. So, uh, where in the law would it make it illegal for them to get married? They're only related by a simple little piece of paper that says they're siblings. There's no other relation beyond that. ...I dont think they are worried about any law. It is the eye of the society they are worried about. Nemu and Juinichi are known to be siblings by their surroundings. Very few knows that they are actually not siblings by blood relation. Even if Juinichi/Nemu convince everyone about their true blood relations it is still going to remain awkward to anyone that a person who has taken care of someone as one's little sister, now "suddenly" wants to have a serious relationship that exceed the expectation of a normal brother and sister relation.
On a side note, I was pleasantly surprised to see the episode 22 without any side episode. With the pace of the story in the episode, I was dreading the fact that the story will continue in the next episode. Imagine my surprise when the usual 13 minutes mark passed and the episode still continued..Good episode overall!!
Anlushac11
2003-12-23, 12:17
I dont think I have cried this much in an anime since ep10 of Kanon
Yoriko and Miharu are my favorite characters, Now Yoriko is gone.
And I feel Miharu that we know of , the Android Miharu, will be gone soon as well if the magic is dying.
Was an excellent episode though.
I dont think I have cried this much in an anime since ep10 of Kanon
Yoriko and Miharu are my favorite characters, Now Yoriko is gone.
And I feel Miharu that we know of , the Android Miharu, will be gone soon as well if the magic is dying.
Was an excellent episode though.
Now you got me wondering about Miharu, where the hell is the real one, that accident she had was like a real long time ago I believe. Is she in a coma?
EternalBlue
2003-12-23, 16:47
Hehe 22 was awesome. As always, can't wait for the next one ^^
By the way, a lil off topic, but does anyone know the name of the song Kotori sings? I can't remember the episode it was in first, but it was recapped in ep15 ^^. If anyone could tell me the title that'd be great!
Now you got me wondering about Miharu, where the hell is the real one, that accident she had was like a real long time ago I believe. Is she in a coma?
Ep. 24 should answer your question
Hehe 22 was awesome. As always, can't wait for the next one ^^
By the way, a lil off topic, but does anyone know the name of the song Kotori sings? I can't remember the episode it was in first, but it was recapped in ep15 ^^. If anyone could tell me the title that'd be great!
You'll hear the second part to that song in Ep. 23.
The song's title is "Soyokaze no Harmony," sung by Shirakawa Kotori (seiyuu- Horie Yui). Unfortunately, its not in any CD...as of now. I expect it maybe inside the D.C.P.S. game music CD that's going to be sold on 12/26th.
Well here's my thought on the cat guy, Its a spoiler cause I mention tons of different side stories in here.
I think the cat guy is a ghost given a physical form by the sakura tree, The ghost of the boy in the picture of the creepy house that nemu and the other girl ran into for shelter from the rain. The boy is the grandfather(dead)* of sakura and asakura(or maybe not but most likely as he looks alot like asakura). The cat guy has mainly 3 forms, the trench coat guy who is the physical form, the t shirt guy, who is the memory of himself when he was a teenager and was dating(or inlove) with sakura's grandmother*, and himself without a physical representation (ghost). You see the ghost once and hes mentioned once as well. Hes mentioned in the raining side story where they took a picture and sent it to moe, she saw the ghost of the boy in the photo sent to her(guess ghosts show up in photos in this series) and said that you must be having fun with all those people around(not a direct quote) and you see him when moe is looking for the cat guy, she misses him but sees the ghost because he switched forms. In the movie theatre he was kinda like reviewing his life and decided that he no longer needed to see the world anymore and left.
* - It had to be the in that age zone because color tvs where released in the 1960's and it was the first one in the island so it should have been near the release date and since there where 13-14(cause they just got into high school) so add around 43 and you get 57, they can't be a generation younger most likely cause then they would of had to have had asakura when they where in their 40's!
Well here's my thought on the cat guy, Its a spoiler cause I mention tons of different side stories in here.
I think the cat guy is a ghost given a physical form by the sakura tree, The ghost of the boy in the picture of the creepy house that nemu and the other girl ran into for shelter from the rain. The boy is the grandfather(dead)* of sakura and asakura(or maybe not but most likely as he looks alot like asakura). The cat guy has mainly 3 forms, the trench coat guy who is the physical form, the t shirt guy, who is the memory of himself when he was a teenager and was dating(or inlove) with sakura's grandmother*, and himself without a physical representation (ghost). You see the ghost once and hes mentioned once as well. Hes mentioned in the raining side story where they took a picture and sent it to moe, she saw the ghost of the boy in the photo sent to her(guess ghosts show up in photos in this series) and said that you must be having fun with all those people around(not a direct quote) and you see him when moe is looking for the cat guy, she misses him but sees the ghost because he switched forms. In the movie theatre he was kinda like reviewing his life and decided that he no longer needed to see the world anymore and left.
* - It had to be the in that age zone because color tvs where released in the 1960's and it was the first one in the island so it should have been near the release date and since there where 13-14(cause they just got into high school) so add around 43 and you get 57, they can't be a generation younger most likely cause then they would of had to have had asakura when they where in their 40's!
People should play the CIRCUS' game "Suika," released in 2001, before they make any judgments on who Archimedes is. Yes, the "cat guy" has a name - Archimedes. ^^
Lord Raiden
2003-12-23, 23:05
Archimedes?? Awe. ^_^ That's so cute a name for that cat. :)
After hearing all this stuff you guys have mentioned about each of the side stories and the charecters, I'm gonna have to go back and rewatch this entire series and pick up on those things again. Cause I obviously missed them the first time.
EternalBlue
2003-12-24, 21:51
WHOA AWESOME!!! Ep 23 is alrdy subbed by AonE and HQA!! Hope everyone enjoys it ^^
EternalBlue
2003-12-24, 23:03
Oh and whats the name of the song that is sung while Junichi plays with Yoriko in ep22? Just a title is good if you know it ^^ Thanx!
Just seen ep23. My fav episode so far, cuz it was all about Kotori.
Hey Asakura-san how the hell can you reject Kotori's confession you dumbass. lol :heh: well doesn't matter anyway cuz shes all mine now :love:
3 more episodes..... We need more Moe-chan back story!!!! Oh yeah, I have a question to...... What was Mako's wish? Anyone?
stingray
2003-12-25, 21:07
what's w/ the pink bear in the schoolgirl outfit making cameo apperances in every eps?
also what's up w/ the side eps?
i'm only up to eps 12. not bad so far. the miharu robot reminds me a little of chobits.
brightman
2003-12-25, 21:11
what's w/ the pink bear in the schoolgirl outfit making cameo apperances in every eps?
i'm only up to eps 12. not bad so far. the robot reminds me a little of chobits
That questions been answered quite a few times in this thread :heh:
Anyway, wait until you get to Ep 16... That's when things start to REALLY get good.
what's w/ the pink bear in the schoolgirl outfit making cameo apperances in every eps?
also what's up w/ the side eps?
i'm only up to eps 12. not bad so far. the robot reminds me a little of chobits
Read page 7 of this thread
stingray
2003-12-26, 10:01
thanks.
i'm caught up to 23 now. :) is it bad i skipped a couple of those side stories? too anxious to get on w/ the "real" story.
pretty interesting. how many total eps are there?
so this was original a "H" game made to TV series?
Mistwrath
2003-12-26, 11:14
U got it right stingray, it was a ero-game and turned into anime.
Some of those side stories are interesting, go catch them if u missed them out.
And there are a total of 26 episodes.
relentlessflame
2003-12-26, 16:28
Just seen ep23. My fav episode so far, cuz it was all about Kotori.
Hey Asakura-san how the hell can you reject Kotori's confession you dumbass. lol :heh: well doesn't matter anyway cuz shes all mine now :love:
Yeah, just saw 23 myself - another nice Christmas present from HQA and AonE! Kotori was also my early favorite in this series, and it makes me want to play the game to get more of her side story. I assume that, in the game, you can choose which characters you'd like to spend the most time with, and the ending of the game adjusts accordingly... I understand, of course, that for the anime, they had to pick one story to go with. That being said...
I've gotta say that I was a little bit disappointed that things worked out the way they did. I mean, Kotori, a girl who is finally confronting her own fears and taking a chance without the comfort of hearing others' thoughts, confesses the love she finally confessed to herself, gets rejected... I guess I was kind of hoping/wishing for her and Asakura to have their "special moment" anyways, as Yoriko did... I have a feeling that Asakura's little "cheer up" speech in the middle was supposed to be their moment, but I think something may have been lost in the translation. It just seems as though, although he was being kind, he just didn't have any feelings for her at all... which was perhaps the point. Oh well... as Keitarou20 said, that means she's still available...
And also, I continued my bad habit of reading the episode preview on the official website. The preview for the final episode is up and... (extra caution - big spoiler from the final episode preview on the official website)
It seems as though Asakura is going to need to be the bravest one of all. I guess it would have been too much to expect this series to have a happy ending (defined by me as one where Nemu and Asakura can stay together and continue to love each other). I guess it was a dream that was never meant to be. It looks like they'll "release" Nemu by taking her memory, but... Poor Asakura, though... It all being "only a dream" doesn't seem like such a bad ending anymore... I am understanding more of what you were saying, kj1980...
Mistwrath
2003-12-27, 00:10
Just read the spoiler from the official web site of Da Capo.
Big big time spoiler ... ARGH. Why did it happen !!!
NO !!!
I was disappointed myself with that "speech" to Kotori. But sadly he doesn't say more than that or even something really insightful. If I wouldn't root myself for Nemu I might be angry too.
He can handle delicate moments, as he has shown in past episode, with Yoriko for example or one of the simplest and most beautiful declarations of "love" when he retrieved Nemu from under the tree in their childhood.
Oh well, wait for 24 which is much better handled (but also way more sad) than 23.
relentlessflame
2003-12-27, 05:12
I was disappointed myself with that "speech" to Kotori. But sadly he doesn't say more than that or even something really insightful. If I wouldn't root myself for Nemu I might be angry too.
He can handle delicate moments, as he has shown in past episode, with Yoriko for example or one of the simplest and most beautiful declarations of "love" when he retrieved Nemu from under the tree in their childhood.
Oh well, wait for 24 which is much better handled (but also way more sad) than 23.
Yeah, my only explanation for it, assuming it was all in character and not just an error/oversight by the writers, was that he just really had no feelings for Kotori at all. How sad! That being said, though, since I also am rooting for Nemu now, it's obvious that his heart is completely set on her...
... which will make the last episode that much harder! Darn you, uber spoiler! NOOOO!!!!
By the way, theMug, thanks a lot to you and your group for helping to bring this anime to us. I and many others really appreciate it.
Spending the night in line at Comike 65, I was watching D.C. Episode 26 on my Sony VAIO where I recorded the TV on to its HD so I have something to do (and get warmed up) while waiting for the doors to open, as I wait since 4AM, battering zero-degree centigrade temperatures.
I am writing this post from the local wireless hotspot inside Ariake Big Sight as I take a rest from doujinshi shopping...
Honestly, it could've been better. But at least Sakura realized that it wasn't her hate for Junichi, but her fear of being rejected by Junichi that was causing the sakura tree to re-grow. And Nemu walks toward the tree...
Hmm...quite different from Nemu's ending in the D.C. game, but it still was okay. She should've gone to the school, but went to the sakura tree instead. I guess then that the story followed Sakura's ending. But then, Nemu should've...ahh, who cares. An ending is an ending. Director Miyazaki Nagisa made a quite a good adaptation to the game, I would give it an overall 90 points.
The ending...
Murasaki Izumiko speaks! But where is Ms. Kuwatani Natsuko's credit in the ending!?
Tomochan and Mikkun shows their faces!! M...moe~...
and...Misawa Yoriko-san!! You must be the favorite character of the seisaku-staff members ^^ I mean, who would want a cat-eared maid-san....me too...
And, Nemu-chan. Welcome back, welcome to honkou. New uniforms are so moe~...
Mistwrath
2003-12-27, 23:59
Thanks to kj for ur undying efforts to always provide us with first hand information.
We couldn't have live our days in peace without all these info :D
Lord Raiden
2003-12-28, 00:53
Now I'm really excited to see the last 3 episodes. Man, another great series I initially just wrote off but thankfully came back to later. :)
Village Idiot
2003-12-28, 16:20
In case anyone is interested, the first chapter of the manga has been scanned and translated by a group :)
Thanks alot, but I would be working on DC even if nobody else in the world wanted to download it. I just love the show.
That's why I convinced a couple of our people to release the manga, as the anime will soon be over and I just can't part that easily. MonE = MangaONE = a couple of AnimeONE freaks with too much time on their hands ;)
And on a sitenote, enjoy episode 24 while it is still fresh :) Even if it was emotionally hard to work on that episode...
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