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Estavali
2007-09-23, 10:36
So the final episode is still on today?
Finally,the climax to this pain and suffering!
Don't know, but it can't hurt to put it up. That way if it isn't up, they can always lock it till it is.
Deathkillz
2007-09-23, 11:00
Dirty rumor be dammed! I doubt we will get another nice boat incident unless someone wants to be at the end of another SLB :rolleyes:
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 11:31
Nooo it can't end D:
I NEED ANIME TO WATCH T_T
Signum/Agito unison, Subaru using both knuckles (lol barely), and..stuff.
Yeah.
See you--oh hey it's over. CIAO!
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 11:40
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Geh? Wel that looks er... interesting. Not to mention completely not like something Signum would wear. Go go Agito.
arkhangelsk
2007-09-23, 11:44
Hmm, she seemed to have changed more than when she fused with Rein. Does that mean that Agito is more powerful, or just more dominating a personality? Or is it just my mistaken impression?
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 11:45
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Hmm, she seemed to have changed more than when she fused with Rein. Does that mean that Agito is more powerful, or just more dominating a personality? Or is it just my mistaken impression?
*taps chin* wasn't it stated on one of the DVD cards that the more copatible the users are, the more their apearance alters?
holybell84
2007-09-23, 11:52
Signum kinda looks like Hayate... And why the hell she tied her hair again???
Nightengale
2007-09-23, 11:53
So...
ANYTHING with a last-minute plot relevance? Like whatever Acous learned? Cinque? Etc?
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 11:54
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holybell84
2007-09-23, 11:56
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wtf? did Fate went back to her loli size????
So...
ANYTHING with a last-minute plot relevance? Like whatever Acous learned? Cinque? Etc?
Everyone's alive. Except like Zest and Regius.
And by everyone I mean Lutecia's god damn mother too.
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 11:57
That's hardly loli size. XD
And nuuu Signum should keep her hair down :<
Deathkillz
2007-09-23, 12:00
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NO. DIE. BURN. HELL! T_T dont ever touch fate chan!!!
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 12:00
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WTH?
Erio should die.
only nanoha can do that (http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa305/BPHaru2/RND/NanoFate_ss_003.jpg)
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/1190566373201.jpg
:D
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T_T
Saludos, Haru
holybell84
2007-09-23, 12:05
That's hardly loli size. XD
And nuuu Signum should keep her hair down :<
lol, k not really loli... but then fate had her size reduced... Now we know Yuuno X Nanoha and Fate X Erio X Caro :twitch:
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5757/jdv1190567080oee3.jpg
Nightengale
2007-09-23, 12:08
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5757/jdv1190567080oee3.jpg
:rolleyes:
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 12:09
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WTH?
Erio should die.
only nanoha can do that
Nanoha x Fate 10000000% *//--//*!!
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 12:10
What they all looking at? <.<
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 12:10
*looks at screenshots*
....................
Hehehee..............
Burn in hell... StrikerS...
.............
*uncontrollable shivering*
Anything about Cinque?
What they all looking at? <.<
Vivio.
And no, they didn't animate the god damn last training bout between everyone. And I was not happy.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 12:28
LOL @ the screencaps... Just... LOL :heh:...
It's not that I'm happy or pleased with anything, but it's just... LOL...!
Everyone's alive. Except like Zest and Regius.
And by everyone I mean Lutecia's god damn mother too.WHAAAAAT?!
RAIDA IS ALIVE?!?!? :twitch::twitch::twitch::twitch:
Spoiler for Vivio in the school =P
The Saint Church's school takes in 5-year olds? It's either that or they skipped 2 years.
And notice her name is now "Takamachi Vivio".
And no, they didn't animate the god damn last training bout between everyone.
Saw that coming a mile away. Such a scene would be redundant after all that's happened. We might see it in the manga though. Like the training bout between Hayate & knights vs Nanoha's team.
Nightengale
2007-09-23, 12:35
Btw, I recall someone asking about Cinque.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2946/11905672789103122991py9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
And yes, Otto's clearly a girl now.
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 12:38
youtube upload Ep 26 wait for minutes =)
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 12:38
Wait wait wait, this is TSAB minimum security prison :heh:?
Lol... Just, Lol...
FlameSparkZ
2007-09-23, 12:40
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Like...wow :eek:
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Jail doesn't look too happy... :D
Subaru converting Ginga's RK into her own :D:D
Like, how can Erio carry Fate? :twitch:
Number are capture, but they feel pretty good about the situation :heh:
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/1190566373201.jpg
Heh....Vivio in school, nice :D
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5757/jdv1190567080oee3.jpg
Peeking? On who? :twitch:
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Prepare to get your butts kicked! :D
Btw, I recall someone asking about Cinque.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2946/11905672789103122991py9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
And yes, Otto's clearly a girl now.
lol at Cinque :heh: Sitting on Nove's lap
OMG Otto really was a girl! :twitch:
Lots of surprises :heh:
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 12:41
Btw, I recall someone asking about Cinque.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2946/11905672789103122991py9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
And yes, Otto's clearly a girl now.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
*throws a spear at the series*
*walks away*
*cries*
*swears the most I've ever sweared*
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 12:43
That was unexpected serenade O-o
Deathkillz
2007-09-23, 12:45
someone plz tell me that duo isnt comming back >.>
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 12:47
That was unexpected serenade O-o
Nah, I myself want to scream something... And throw something... And cry... Not the happy kind... Not exactly the sad kind either...
But but but... I'll refrain until I see the whole picture... Which probably isn't going to be any different than what I'm imagining now.
FlameSparkZ
2007-09-23, 12:48
someone plz tell me that duo isnt comming back >.>
Doubt it, she's been gutted like a kipper by Zest :D
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 12:51
What that the Numbers survived aside from Duo and Quattro?
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 12:51
That was unexpected serenade O-o
It was a cry/laugh of utter despair and of crushed hopes and dreams and of half-insanity. Plus, the pain and ecstasy of my hopes for StrikerS's being crushed and shattered (well, what's left of it) and the thought that I should go into the show and nuke them all. Feels like Keiichi, I need a bat.
Edit: I also need some nice boat and nice food to throw...
Nightengale
2007-09-23, 12:54
So, can someone explain why the difference between prison treatments? I recall something about possible cooperation or something, but I'll be damned if I know.
Quattro IS ALIVE. She's in maximum security prison with Jail, Tre and Sette, single cells each and she's lazing. I guess she's glad that she didn't die at least.
Hayate saved her. LOL.
FlameSparkZ
2007-09-23, 13:00
So, can someone explain why the difference between prison treatments? I recall something about possible cooperation or something, but I'll be damned if I know.
Quattro IS ALIVE. She's in maximum security prison with Jail, Tre and Sette, single cells each and she's lazing. I guess she's glad that she didn't die at least.
Hayate saved her. LOL.
I figured Quattro'd be alive, but yeah, putting her in a maximum security prison is a really necessary, due to her haxx IS :D
How about Uno? She's probably with Jail and the others, right?
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 13:00
What was crushed now? I can understand the Numbers being treated well, they're just cyborgs listening to orders O-o
Jail is the mastermind.
Nice Fanart!
When does the true StrikerS Anime start? :heh:
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 13:03
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krisslanza
2007-09-23, 13:04
So much StrikerS hate on the most official forums I know of >_>
Dark Wing
2007-09-23, 13:05
Well the ending wasn't that bad...I guess.:heh:
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 13:06
What was crushed now? I can understand the Numbers being treated well, they're just cyborgs listening to orders O-o
Jail is the mastermind.
I don't recall him twisting anyone's arm.
Nice Fanart!
When does the true StrikerS Anime start? :heh:
After your last bottle of any alcohol.
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 13:09
The TSAB is really police then a army. They put people in jail, not just round them up and execute them. The Numbers in jail are the 'leader' ones really, the rest just follow orders.
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 13:09
What was crushed now? I can understand the Numbers being treated well, they're just cyborgs listening to orders O-o
Jail is the mastermind.
It's this weird feeling of hopelessness that accompanies the destruction of a hope of season 4 with Jail as the main villain again.
Personally, I don't know what's crushed either: My sanity, the good mood after waking up in the morning, or respect.
The finisher? How absolutely happy it is. What's with Lutecia's mom being alive? It's not illogical, but...
Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy...
*snicker*
Numbers being treated well, they're just cyborgs listening to orders
Right, that changes the fact that they razed a building, put peoples' lives in danger, and have ISs. Like Otto's Ray Storm... Last time I checked, it has no physical form and can make big explosions.
BURNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!
*goes to eat*
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 13:10
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Nightengale
2007-09-23, 13:11
Nove X Genya!? @_@
Deathkillz
2007-09-23, 13:11
Oh hahahahaha!! I just like to say that i love this end for being so anti dramatic :D
Now where do i start...
If someone seriously thought that the aces where going to be in any danger i would have died laughing. As expected the final failed to deliver the explosive content that some of us (no me) were hoping. Yep as some has guessed Tea too vice's motorbike for a spin but seriously they could have made it less obvious ~ along with subaru's wing road stunt...
and WTF! she finally obtained the powers of god and yet subaru only used ginga's glove to smash down a wall...atleast show some skills while duel wielding >.> (seriously disappointed with this one).
Whats more erio came from nowhere to sweep fate chan of her feet...screw that! no one touches fate chan! T_T
I guess some good that came out of this was seeing agito's unison with signum but with powers like that i seriously cant think why the team had a hard time taking out the cradle. Why didnt hayate just nuke the cradle out of the sky rather than going through all the crap that they did? Being the meister of the legendary tome she sure was being modest with her powers.
But i guess the thing that i was most disappointed about with this ep is that...no one died! WTH! i was expecting vita at least to kick the bucket after what? getting stabbed through the chest/lungs/heart wasnt enough to kill her? Im surprised that she made it this far but comeon...even if you dont kill her off at least make her disabled and bed ridden (no hammering down enemies with useless gound troops behind her telling her that there is no use - those bastards hahahaha!)
And fate chan will always be the sensible one :rolleyes: goddam though...why didnt they animate the last mock battle? zomg its not like your usual battles as the aces and stars are going at each other with full force...this was a major disappointment to see potential being flushed like that...
but i guess this is the nanoha thing where everyone lives happily ever after...not a bad thing but being too perfect seems farfetched...
final note...HAHAHAHA CHRONO YOU FAIL!!! :D
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 13:13
Well they didn't want to blow up the Cradle when Vivio was still in it... :uhoh:
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 13:15
The TSAB is really police then a army. They put people in jail, not just round them up and execute them. The Numbers in jail are the 'leader' ones really, the rest just follow orders.
Obviously this is the Mahou Shoujo genes taking over cause with the exception of the senior Numbers, those aren't even prision... From the looks of the screenshots.
And the 'just following orders' stun shouldn't hold in court either, they did it willingly and knowingly.
And before you bring up Fate and season 1, remember that Fate had a good 'lawyer' and that she didn't attack several military bases.
So did the fleet managed to do something or were they just for show ?
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 13:17
Some of the Numbers had doubts about what they were doing Chaos. I think too many of you wanted them to just round up the Numbers and shot them all in the head. Or at least a few of you...
Mirificus
2007-09-23, 13:17
The TSAB is really police then a army. They put people in jail, not just round them up and execute them. The Numbers in jail are the 'leader' ones really, the rest just follow orders.
Armies shouldn't be rounding up people and executing them.
Deathkillz
2007-09-23, 13:18
well not blow up but disable it then by shooting the engines >.> all this bull about not letting it reach space when they could have easily shot it down but not smash it into pieces...
Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy, Happy...
Some of us were too hopeful to think that anyone important would die :rolleyes:
Nightengale
2007-09-23, 13:19
Doesn't explain why VII is in jail as well when VI's in rehab, unless she wanted to be with her onee-sama...
And the fleet destroyed Cradle. That's it. The only things worth mentioning about Hayate in this episode is,
1. saving Quattro
2. more proof of shaft, as she becomes the 2nd flagger of Forwards vs Aces
Agito's officially TSAB now, Erio and Caro are a pair doing the nature preservation? work, Lutecia's off countryside protected by Garyuu + bugs, Teana's in the Navy? now, etc and Genya's trying to hit on Nove.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 13:22
Some of the Numbers had doubts about what they were doing Chaos.
Yeahhhh...
That sure stopped them huh?
I think too many of you wanted them to just round up the Numbers and shot them all in the head. Or at least a few of you...
What? Shooting them in the head :eek:? That's barbaric of you krisslanza!
If I had things my way (I know alot of people are going to use this phrase, but screw that I came first), they would have died in battle. At least it'll be mildly dramatic.
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 13:24
Chaos if you had things your way... I shudder to think of what StrikerS would've turned out as... :uhoh:
EDIT:
The mental image of Genya hitting on Nove just made me laugh.
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/1190565407288.jpg
Hell & Heaven!!1:heh::heh::heh:
So, can someone explain why the difference between prison treatments? I recall something about possible cooperation or something, but I'll be damned if I know.Jail, along with Numbers these who refused to cooperate to investigation, are put into off-world mobile prison.
(Tre, Quattro, Uno, and Sette - these who remained loyal to Jail)
No, I didn't see Due in there... :rolleyes:
These who admitted to charges and shown that are willing to cooperate to investigation, are put into isolation facility (did they intentionaly didn't use word "prison"?) on Midchildarn ocean.
No, I didn't see Due in there too... :heh:
Lutecia and Agito are there on their own decision, although it will be short stay because they have being-mind-controled and other shit that backs them up.
Agito in particular didn't really have to be there, according to Wendy.
Edit:
Doesn't explain why VII is in jail as well when VI's in rehab, unless she wanted to be with her onee-sama...Official Profile says that Tre was the one who taught Sette things, thusly Sette has many similerlity in personality to her tutor.
That, indeed, includes deepest loyality toward Jail.
Agito's officially TSAB now, Erio and Caro are a pair doing the nature preservation? work, Lutecia's off countryside protected by Garyuu + bugs, Teana's in the Navy? now, etc and Genya's trying to hit on Nove.
What's more is that Erio is listed as "Dragon Knight" in epilogue... apparently Fried completely ditched Caro in favor of it's new master :heh:
Teana is picked up by Fate as her 2nd assistant, so that she can have some on-the-job training to be an Enforcer.
Genya and Nove... well, she's technically a 2P color Subaru, you see :heh:
Deathkillz
2007-09-23, 13:26
oops and another point...where the hell did jail's backup plan go? so much for being foolproof :rolleyes:
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 13:29
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serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 13:30
Some of the Numbers had doubts about what they were doing Chaos. I think too many of you wanted them to just round up the Numbers and shot them all in the head. Or at least a few of you...
*Sigh*
I could barely eat and the people around me said I had a smile on my face the whole time... I think it was a grimace..............
From the start of this season, every good guy was on my" hate" or "to-hate" list. Lutecia and Agito are newly added. Pending: Various characters named after numbers
*kimochi warui*.......
Serenity85
2007-09-23, 13:31
oops and another point...where the hell did jail's backup plan go? so much for being foolproof :rolleyes:
Simply, because he wasn't killed, the seeds didn't activate so no new Jail's.... Basically unless the seeds where removed, there still sitting there waiting....
deftoned
2007-09-23, 13:32
Well.... at least it wasn't a boat. :D
Regardless of how everything turned, I'm going to miss watching StrikerS each week. :(
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 13:34
Chaos if you had things your way... I shudder to think of what StrikerS would've turned out as... :uhoh:
I think we both know what to expect :p
oops and another point...where the hell did jail's backup plan go? so much for being foolproof :rolleyes:
Pull a DtB :p Due's body mysteriously disappeared from the morgue :D
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Is that ship... :eyespin: ?
Dark Wing
2007-09-23, 13:35
Well.... at least it wasn't a boat. :D
Regardless of how everything turned, I'm going to miss watching StrikerS each week. :(
Well if they ever make a season 4 (lets hope they don't mess it up again) you'll have plenty of ne characters to go around...:heh:
Nightengale
2007-09-23, 13:37
*snip*
Thanks. :)
So he's now a Dragon Knight, eh... hehehehehehehehe.... Thank you ,7 Arcs for making my OC-life so much easier. :p
And yes, Nove's technically red!Subaru anyway. I would lol though if Genya somehow adopts her.
Regardless, the thought of Jail actually cooperating and getting rehab at an isolation center is... strange, even more so when Ginga's the one who's in charge of getting them familiar with society it seems.
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 13:38
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Deathkillz
2007-09-23, 13:41
Simply, because he wasn't killed, the seeds didn't activate so no new Jail's.... Basically unless the seeds where removed, there still sitting there waiting....
LAWL...
jail: "kill me!!! please kill me!!!!!"
fate chan: "not after what you did...death would be the easy option"
jail: "drats...dam meddling kids!" >.>
Nightengale
2007-09-23, 13:43
You know, watching the Lightning gives a strange feeling of contradiction. X_X
The way their story came about in StrikerS seems to show a sense of independence, growing out from their painful past, growing on their own, to not need to rely on Fate, and carve their own future.
However, it really did not feel that way. There's holes in their character development progression, even taking SS02 and the manga into account.
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 13:43
@Deathkillz:
I can actually imagine that somehow... XD
His plan is ruined since he's still alive. Ouch.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 13:46
You know, watching the Lightning gives a strange feeling of contradiction. X_X
Contradiction? It felt more like emptiness...
... That goes double for you too Lu.
FlareKnight
2007-09-23, 13:47
Ah the fleet, well it did do something. Just blasting the ship into oblivion and no not even a big Chrono moment of ordering to open fire, they just blasted it and boom that's the end.
Wow I didn't think this episode could be so anti-climatic. I mean Vita is moving around again fairly well and Eisen is magically restored without any issues. Well I guess the whole point of Hayate showing up was to bring that back since she got completely shafted. There wasn't even a big fight just a minor rescue.
Oh poor Chrono. One of the greatest victims of StrikerS. Married out of the blue and kept completely out of things even to the end. His biggest moment was drinking tea with Carim, Hayate, and Acous.
Who would've guessed ErioxFate would've gotten more stuff behind it than anything ErioxLutecia related. Just seemed silly to have him saving her from rubble but oh well.
And yes Yuuno is alive. All we get is him, Nanoha, and Arf (yes she lives) peaking on Vivio's class. Must be some weird dynamics going on there. Not sure what excuse they had for him being there unless he gets regulated to school librarian.
Dark Wing
2007-09-23, 13:48
Contradiction? It felt more like emptiness...
... That goes double for you too Lu.
Even though I don't really agree with you on alot of thing Chaos...I'm going to have take your side on this one...
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 13:51
Youtube links Ep 26 Only PM ^^
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 13:51
Even though I don't really agree with you on alot of thing Chaos...I'm going to have take your side on this one...
It must be tearing you up inside huh :D ? You were always afraid of my darkness and your supporting of it :p
Whats more erio came from nowhere to sweep fate chan of her feet...screw that! no one touches fate chan! T_TI always said Erio took after his Meister... :uhoh:
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot105.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot106.jpghttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb66/ameria07/ScreenShot107.jpg1. WHAT'S THAT SHIP?! :eek:
2. I'm surprised no one raised this up. How many years has it been since StrikerS for that Epilogue?
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Hell & Heaven!!1:heh::heh::heh:
Jail, along with Numbers these who refused to cooperate to investigation, are put into off-world mobile prison.
(Tre, Quattro, Uno, and Sette - these who remained loyal to Jail)
No, I didn't see Due in there... :rolleyes:
These who admitted to charges and shown that are willing to cooperate to investigation, are put into isolation facility (did they intentionaly didn't use word "prison"?) on Midchildarn ocean.
No, I didn't see Due in there too... :heh:
Lutecia and Agito are there on their own decision, although it will be short stay because they have being-mind-controled and other shit that backs them up.
Agito in particular didn't really have to be there, according to Wendy.
Edit:
Official Profile says that Tre was the one who taught Sette things, thusly Sette has many similerlity in personality to her tutor.
That, indeed, includes deepest loyality toward Jail.
What's more is that Erio is listed as "Dragon Knight" in epilogue... apparently Fried completely ditched Caro in favor of it's new master :heh:
Teana is picked up by Fate as her 2nd assistant, so that she can have some on-the-job training to be an Enforcer.
Genya and Nove... well, she's technically a 2P color Subaru, you see :heh:
Chances are Due is being kept preserved in a glass jar just like how Lutecia's mom was kept, except she wont be getting out...Although it is nice to see a majority (except for the older men like Zest and Regius who time was up) of the cast live to see tomorrow.
2. I'm surprised no one raised this up. How many years has it been since StrikerS for that Epilogue?Seeing that children haven't grown up that much and Lu / Agito's out of room, I'd say it's 1 year at maximum.
Well, at least it's not "Six years later"...
WHAT'S THAT SHIP?!
You don't recognise it? That's an XV class like the Claudia. Might even be the Claudia itself.
I'm surprised no one raised this up. How many years has it been since StrikerS for that Epilogue?
If everything is at a similar point in time, at most 2 years, since Vivio is starting elementary school.
You don't recognise it? That's an XV class like the Claudia. Might even be the Claudia itself.It's not that I don't recognize it; It's that I'm afraid of recognizing it as... that Admiral's. :uhoh:
Seeing that children haven't grown up that much and Lu / Agito's out of room, I'd say it's 1 year at maximum.
Well, at least it's not "Six years later"...If everything is at a similar point in time, at most 2 years, since Vivio is starting elementary school.Looks like we're gonna have to wait for canon to reveal something... I hope Wiki or the SS will pick up something; I want to know how much time am I allowed to play with. :heh:
TAM-Lisa
2007-09-23, 14:15
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NO. DIE. BURN. HELL! T_T dont ever touch fate chan!!!
Yeah, don't touch Fate like that. I hate that scene T__T
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I just love these scenes :D
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So cute :D
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Nanoha x Fate 10000000% *//--//*!!
Great, I wonder how the fight is? :heh:
Nanoha x Fate 4ever. And Fate is Nanoha's.
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Oh, these screenshots are the best in this last episode. :love:
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Good ending for Erio, Caro & Lutecia :)
Nightengale
2007-09-23, 14:17
Well, if I'm not wrong, there's already a 7-month timeskip from 19th September 0075 (( Cradle Day )) to 28th April 0076, making it a complete full year since RF6's establishment just as it was disbanded.
So, yeah... technically, there's 2 time-skips in this episode alone. One 7 months, and another unknown.
So, it's either as said, 2 years reflecting Vivio, or simply a few months or so after those 7 months.
S4 should be 0079. :p
Since no one has brought it up...http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8449/boatve9.th.png (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatve9.png)
Nice boat.Sorry I had to do it :p
Since no one has brought it up...http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8449/boatve9.th.png (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatve9.png)
Nice boat.Sorry I had to do it :p...Higurashi? :confused:
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 14:24
Since no one has brought it up...http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8449/boatve9.th.png (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatve9.png)
Nice boat.Sorry I had to do it :p
Bravo! Nice boat indeed!
Since no one has brought it up...http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8449/boatve9.th.png (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatve9.png)
Nice boat.Sorry I had to do it :p
I swear I posted Nice boat end like way back on page 1 or 2! (just no picture, because I was too busy laughing at it to screencap)
Estavali
2007-09-23, 14:30
I wonder what do they teach their little kids. On that blackboard are both the Midchildan Octagon as well as the Belkan Triangle. I don't think either is needed for basic mathematics, no?
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 14:31
Since no one has brought it up...http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8449/boatve9.th.png (http://img218.imageshack.us/my.php?image=boatve9.png)
Nice boat.Sorry I had to do it :p
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Serenity85
2007-09-23, 14:38
lol Subaro really does want to take after Nanoha, even to the point of rescuing kiddies .... what would be funny is if S4 does come, we've got potential new cadets to look forward to lol, as well as Vivio lol. The wild cards would be Caro, Erio and Lutecia (I cry at the lack of time spent on her, I had such high hopes for her) whether the'll play a major role.
Well, if I'm not wrong, there's already a 7-month timeskip from 19th September 0075 (( Cradle Day )) to 28th April 0076, making it a complete full year since RF6's establishment just as it was disbanded.
So, yeah... technically, there's 2 time-skips in this episode alone. One 7 months, and another unknown.
So, it's either as said, 2 years reflecting Vivio, or simply a few months or so after those 7 months.
S4 should be 0079. :pNo wonder StrikerS started on a weird date like 0075. :p:p
But they can also go with 0085 and 0088...
Or heaven forbid: 0093, and we have Mahou Obasan Evergreen Nanoha. :eyespin:
Deathkillz
2007-09-23, 14:57
No wonder StrikerS started on a weird date like 0075. :p:p
But they can also go with 0085 and 0088...
Or heaven forbid: 0093, and we have Mahou Obasan Evergreen Nanoha. :eyespin:
which is what ive been saying all along for S4 >.>
idea for S4: lets have grown up vivio stepping into nanoha's shoes so she can befriend a whole new cast...that way me might even get S5 and S6...
xizro345
2007-09-23, 15:06
I really don't get some reaction to this episode. I've yet to see it fully but it seems pretty "normal" ending
Having said that, I hardly doubt there is going to be another series (this has nothing to do with quality/screenplay/etc).
Mirificus
2007-09-23, 15:06
To be honest, I wasn't really expecting much from this episode yet it still felt underwhelming. For me, the most touching moment was when Auris paid her respects at Quint's grave.
Otherwise, I didn't feel any real attachment to the episode.
Regardless, the thought of Jail actually cooperating and getting rehab at an isolation center is... strange, even more so when Ginga's the one who's in charge of getting them familiar with society it seems.
Using Ginga to help those numbers with integration makes sense since she fought alongside them briefly. They are likely developed some kind of bond with her through shared experiences, which is more than can be said of any other TSAB member (3 and 7 respect Fate but they are in solitary confinement and presumably Fate is busy elsewhere).
TAM-Lisa
2007-09-23, 15:08
which is what ive been saying all along for S4 >.>
idea for S4: lets have grown up vivio stepping into nanoha's shoes so she can befriend a whole new cast...that way me might even get S5 and S6...
That's a good idea.:D And the tittle will be (in my mind): Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Vivio ^^ :D :D
To be honest, I wasn't really expecting much from this episode yet it still felt underwhelming. For me, the most touching moment was when Auris paid her respects at Quint's grave.
Otherwise, I didn't feel any real attachment to the episode.
Using Ginga to help those numbers with integration makes sense since she fought alongside them briefly. They are likely developed some kind of bond with her through shared experiences, which is more than can be said of any other TSAB member (3 and 7 respect Fate but they are in solitary confinement and presumably Fate is busy elsewhere).
Not to mention she is a Type Zero along with Subaru
princesa_Ameria
2007-09-23, 15:33
Youtube Links Ep 26 COMPLETE!! ^^ [Only PM]
Incidentally...
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/944/sig2pp4.th.png (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sig2pp4.png)
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That coloring made me remember... "Are you my Master?" :D
krisslanza
2007-09-23, 15:48
That's a good idea.:D And the tittle will be (in my mind): Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Vivio ^^ :D :D
With that cool outfit design someone made up? ^_^
FlameSparkZ
2007-09-23, 16:06
IMO a nice ending :D
Very open for a 4th season :D :D
IMO a nice ending :D
Very open for a 4th season :D :D
Me thinks Nanoha will be like Gundam longterm wise. ;)
Mirificus
2007-09-23, 17:09
The TSAB doesn't seem to use its manpower very efficiently. Just look at Alto and Vice. From what we've seen, Alto is the better combat pilot yet she was used as an easily replaced communications officer. Judging from episode 26, Vice is clearly the best sniper in the unit but instead of giving him psychological counseling, they used him as an average pilot.
Caps
http://blog.seiha.org/?p=352
Meh, it was an ending. I didn't really expect much from "everybody vs the giant unmanned inanimate spaceship" and well... *shrug*
This is all the text from the ending transcribed, if anyone was interested (or wants to translate parts). Shamelessly stolen from 2ch.
八神はやて二佐
特別捜査官に復帰。地上に腰を据え、
密輸物・違法魔道師関連の操作指揮を担当
守護騎士一同とともに、職務を続ける
フェイト・T・ハラオウン執務官
副官シャリオ・フェニーノとともに
次元航行部隊に復帰
ティアナ・ランスター執務官補佐
フェイトの二人目の補佐官として、執務官になるための実務研修
夢に向かって、進行中
ルーテシア・アルピーノ
魔力の大幅封印後、無人世界への
隔離による保護観察処分が決定
アルト・クラエッタ一等陸士
地上本部ヘリパイロットに正式採用
ヴァイス・グランセニック陸曹長
地上本部ヘリパイロット
返納していた武装局資格を最取得
グリフィス・ロウラン事務官
次元航行部隊に転属
艦船での事務業務に従事する
ルキノ・リリエ事務官補
兼 操舵手補
グリフィスの補佐官を勤めつつ
艦船操舵手としての道を進む
キャロ・ル・ルシエ二等陸士
前所属の辺境自然保護隊に復帰
エリオ・モンディアル二等陸士
辺境自然保護隊へ希望転属
竜騎士・竜召還士コンビとして自然保護・密漁者対策業務において活躍
高町ヴィヴィオ
本人の希望により、聖王教会系列の魔法学院に入学
ギンガ・ナカジマ陸曹
関係者の指導のもと、収容された戦闘機人たちの
更正プログラムに参加
プログラムは順調に進行中
スバル・ナカジマ一等陸士
本人の希望転属先に配置
災害対策・人命救助の最先鋒
特別救助隊のフォワードトップとして活躍
災害に見舞われた人々の命を、救い続ける
高町なのは一等空尉
JS事件の功績評価による昇進を辞退
戦技教導官そして空戦魔道師として
現場に残り、後進を守り、育て続ける
I'm starting what do people wanted to see in a series that pertains to the Mahou Shoujo genre so clearly that it pains. Maybe they should see a little more from the genre to see what they actually should expect from a series like this. Again, I wonder if this wasn't more a problem of people having their expectations to high rather than with the series itself...
Aw well, to each to his own
I'm starting what do people wanted to see in a series that pertains to the Mahou Shoujo genre so clearly that it pains. Maybe they should see a little more from the genre to see what they actually should expect from a series like this. Again, I wonder if this wasn't more a problem of people having their expectations to high rather than with the series itself...
Aw well, to each to his own
Somehow i doubt that universal, basic flaws like poor character development, pacing problems, nonsensical plot points, fragmented and anti climatic events, etc ... can suddenly be excused because of the genre. Storytelling in itself is not tied to any genre, thus any flaws within it can not be attributed to the genre either. Even if we ignore this - why do people like A's and generally find StrikerS flawed, if both are of this mysterious 'mahou shoujo' genre that is somehow supposed to bring forth poor directing of the show ?
It is fine to like a show despite its flaws, but there is no reason to accept these flaws without questions just because the show happens to fall in some specific genre (which has nothing to do with the production values of a show).
Somehow i doubt that universal, basic flaws like poor character development, pacing problems, nonsensical plot points, fragmented and anti climatic events, etc ... can suddenly be excused because of the genre. Storytelling in itself is not tied to any genre, thus any flaws within it can not be attributed to the genre either. Even if we ignore this - why do people like A's and generally find StrikerS flawed, if both are of this mysterious 'mahou shoujo' genre that is somehow supposed to bring forth poor directing of the show ?
It is fine to like a show despite its flaws, but there is no reason to accept these flaws without questions just because the show happens to fall in some specific genre (which has nothing to do with the production values of a show).
While my comments was more directed towards those expecting obscure plot twists, gruesome deaths, spectacular military manuevers and real life retributions for military mistakes, I attribute A's being liked for it being excellent rather than Striker's being bad. Don't misunderstand me though, I have been the first in many previous cases to accept that Striker's DOES have directing, pacing and plot focusing big flaws. However, it's not like that is anything earth shattering... rather that is rather characteristical of your average anime series. Which, in the end makes Striker's fall into the mediocre Anime realm, and it won't be ever remembered as the wanna-be younger sister of A's. However, that in itself doesn't mean that StrikerS is Bad. Just that it is average.That is the point I've been trying to make since 5 episodes above but everyone has been to busy bashing Vivio :p
Demon Eyes
2007-09-23, 18:35
And a nice ending to another great show!
But I do fee like Mirificus....
I wasn't expecting anything spec but the last ep was meh!
Seriously, OK, Fate pleaded with Nanoha not to overdo things and Nanoha had pretty much used up a lot of energy there but would it really have been that hard to break through a 50 or so cm wall?!!!!!
Hayate is like another version of Angra Mainyu. It would've been easy for her if indeed Nanoha couldn't do it!
And Fate!! Seriously, she had seconds to get away from a 'FALLING WALL'...plenty of time for someone with her speed and etc.....
Was there a need for the saving? Bah! I guess the trainees needed some spot light too!
And still we are left with our own conclusions about the Pairing of the main characters! As for me, I think everyone knows where I stand on this!
And slightly old Teana is HAWT! too!! - Just felt like mentioning it!
So, other people have moved on, marrying and making kids.(Referring to the Pilot Sniper)
But what about our favourite ladies?!!
Hopefully, there is another season, or we shall be enlightened in the Sound Stages and Manga! But I really don't trust that manga, it's waay off from the anime and Drama...But really, when has a manga been 100% parallel to the anime counterpart?!
And finally, I expected much lulz from Chaos-sama but...Where are you Mr.Chaos!!
Haven't watched the ep. yet.
But did the Cinque mystery been found?
Darco_emp
2007-09-23, 18:58
Once again Nanoha is at an end and once again the usual will there be another season topic have started. I have to say I do not mind another season myself in the same universe, but with 80% of the current cast cut. Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Vivio indeed :heh:.
What can I say about the ending, at least its not as bad as it could of have been. I think overall its a good wrap up all in all since given pacing of the show I'm surprised they wrapped that much up. Btw Demon Eyes as of the pairing of the mains I think everyone knows where I stand too :heh:
This is it for now, time to leave
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 19:25
Haven't watched the ep. yet.
But did the Cinque mystery been found?
Yeah, the mystery is that there isn't any mystery.
Hayate is like another version of Angra Mainyu. It would've been easy for her if indeed Nanoha couldn't do it!
What? And people were still holding out to hope :p ?
Was there a need for the saving? Bah! I guess the trainees needed some spot light too!
I don't care which faction I'm in, that rescue should not occur :mad:
And still we are left with our own conclusions about the Pairing of the main characters! As for me, I think everyone knows where I stand on this!
No, really now :eek: ?
So, other people have moved on, marrying and making kids.(Referring to the Pilot Sniper)
Hehhhh~ Nobody mentioned that before...
But what about our favourite ladies?!!
For the sake of pointless fanservice, they would die young, beautiful, but single.
Hopefully, there is another season, or we shall be enlightened in the Sound Stages and Manga! But I really don't trust that manga, it's waay off from the anime and Drama...But really, when has a manga been 100% parallel to the anime counterpart?!
When it was made to tell the gaps of the Anime... But yeah, so much for that promise.
And finally, I expected much lulz from Chaos-sama but...Where are you Mr.Chaos!!
"Now you’ve really crossed the line,
Your hate for me is divine...
My love yearns for your suffer,
On your grave lurks my prosper!"
Demon Eyes
2007-09-23, 19:43
Wait..Wait a sec Chaos!!!*Sweats*
Thid wasn't meant in a negative way!
I was actually scared that you would @IT the nail with 'that' scene!
Seriously!
No lines to be crossed here...Na ahn!
>>For the sake of pointless fanservice, they would die young, beautiful, but single.
I won't allow it!
Die single?!!!
MADNESS!!!
This ain't Sparta!
On the other hand, (Again, not directed at Chaos-sama) does anyone else here think that there might actually be a YuunoxAlf in the anime-verse?!
Now that I think about it, there were signs all over from the previous seasons too...Hmm...All this thinking and the end of StrikerS makes me wanna go for yt another round from the beginning and re-watch again and again until the next season comes out!
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 19:52
Wait..Wait a sec Chaos!!!*Sweats*
Thid wasn't meant in a negative way!
I was actually scared that you would @IT the nail with 'that' scene!
Seriously!
No lines to be crossed here...Na ahn!
Calm yourself Demon Eyes... My "Divine Hate" had not occured...
Now to answer your question, yeah THAT scene does make me somewhat... Amused. But those OTHER sceneS...
I won't allow it!
Die single?!!!
MADNESS!!!
This ain't Sparta!
But it isn't unexpected either...
On the other hand, (Again, not directed at Chaos-sama) does anyone else here think that there might actually be a YuunoxAlf in the anime-verse?!
Now that I think about it, there were signs all over from the previous seasons too...Hmm...All this thinking and the end of StrikerS makes me wanna go for yt another round from the beginning and re-watch again and again until the next season comes out!
Arf is of another specie to begin with... And as far as I know, there's only one other memeber of that specie :p
last episode, this mean new season is coming, alot of new anime coming soon october, abit sad that StrikerS is end... miss Nanoha-chan and Feito-chan....
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 19:59
Yeah, the mystery is that there isn't any mystery.
Brilliant, isn't it? THAT was the biggest blow to me...
The moment I saw that screenshot of her in that "detention center" *punches wall*, I was like "well, f*** it"
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 20:08
Brilliant, isn't it? THAT was the biggest blow to me...
So putting episode 16+17 together... She only had one episode worth of love... One FIGHT SCENE worth of love :heh:
When it comes to this series, hope is overrated.
The moment I saw that screenshot of her in that "detention center" *punches wall*, I was like "well, f*** it"
I just kept laughting... And laughting... Till I cry myself back to sleep.
iamandragon
2007-09-23, 20:10
H-hang on! No Arc-en-Ciel? I have been waiting 25 weeks just for this! And where's the "final-boss-that-lives-less-than-one-episode"?
Right, I can skip the watching of the last episode if there's no Arc-en-Ciel...
I need clarification about Vice.
-His sniper rifle is called "Storm Raider"?
-"Storm Raider" is the helicopter and the gun?
-Difference between the Blue & Barf-colored(:D) Helicopters?
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 20:19
When it comes to this series, hope is overrated.
*half-crying while typing*
Yeah, I was absolutely stupid to put faith in this series.
*gray-colored*
*Sigh*... I can't help but think about this series all the time, just not the good things, but the bad... It's depressing...
Well, I only think about Jail and the Numbers... Considering the good guys + Agito + Lutecia are straw dolls to me...
But tell me what more to think about, besides:
"Jail's been captured"
"He's depressed"
"The writers should drown"
"*sarcastic laugh* Practically every Number defected, for some reason..."
"And now they will be nice citizens that protect justice, love, and friendship... *breaks a printer*"
"No chance for season 4 for Jail"
"After all, he doesn't have much left"
"Nuke..."
I just kept laughting... And laughting... Till I cry myself back to sleep.
Dark day, this was... Truly dark day... Very dark day... dark... dark... dark... dark...
I need clarification about Vice.
He's Mr. Super Heal/Needs to die #10
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 20:22
Dark day, this was... Truly dark day... Very dark day... dark... dark... dark... dark...
To prove that point, I woke up to a thunderstorm over here in the southeast...
Demon Eyes
2007-09-23, 20:23
Well, two of my wishes for this actually came true!
One was that it would be longer than 13 and the other was that we get more fatexnanoha!
Two are more than enough for me!
Now to make another wish for another season!
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 20:25
To prove that point, I woke up to a thunderstorm over here in the southeast...
Arara~~ You live in the US?
It's raining here too...
FlareKnight
2007-09-23, 20:25
Haha hope...hope burns in a vat of burning death for me. I remember hoping around that day off episode. The world seemed bright, future was endless now that they had done training and everything. Oh what foolishness, utter foolishness. Let us all cry ourselves to sleep. Now that's pretty good on dramatics.
Yeah the end of Jail's ship was pretty weak. The fleet finally showed up, probably slowed down by getting a bite to eat. I'm not even sure if they used Arc-en-Cil. They just blasted the damn thing and that was that.
I rated previous episodes in the poll from 3 for the worst (most of the first chapters), till 8 for episode 12 if I remember correctly, but this is the first time that one episode deserves the lowest of the possible qualifications.
Absurd, pointless, disappointing and an aberration, those are the best words to describe this episode. I didn’t expect anything coming from the last episode of this poor quality show, but this was out of the limit.
Ivory, this is nothing more than an insult to the fans, you have lost all my respect.
1 out of 10 : Painful
Saludos, Haru
PD: Forgive me, I needed to vent my frustration.
Kyoto Animation should do a remake of StrikerS (yes, I can dream too), with a finite cast, character development, plot, fights with a lot of beam instead of indoors battles with limiters, the visual quality of Air, a dramatic end, and a dance opening.
Hmm watched the ep.
Looks like Due did die. Not surprised since she killed Regius = pissed off Zest with nothing to lose.
And it didn't seem to me Cinque was THAT Loli, until when they showed her here. (Deed's almost twice the size of her). :naughty:
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 21:11
Arara~~ You live in the US?
It's raining here too...
Singapore... It was pouring like hell 2 hours ago...
Haha hope...hope burns in a vat of burning death for me. I remember hoping around that day off episode. The world seemed bright, future was endless now that they had done training and everything. Oh what foolishness, utter foolishness. Let us all cry ourselves to sleep. Now that's pretty good on dramatics.
It was excellent dramatics :)
For me, the breaking point has to be when they spent 3 episodes on build up before the 'final' battle.
Yeah the end of Jail's ship was pretty weak. The fleet finally showed up, probably slowed down by getting a bite to eat. I'm not even sure if they used Arc-en-Cil. They just blasted the damn thing and that was that.
Grab a bite? They could practical afford to port ship for a day or two, visit the red-light district, crusie up and down the beach, shopping, movies, amusment parks...
... THEN come back the next day to steal Ground forces' credits :p
FlareKnight
2007-09-23, 21:17
It was excellent dramatics :)
For me, the breaking point has to be when they spent 3 episodes on build up before the 'final' battle.
Grab a bite? They could practical afford to port ship for a day or two, visit the red-light district, crusie up and down the beach, shopping, movies, amusment parks...
... THEN come back the next day to steal Ground forces' credits :p
Well it's pretty likely they did all of that. Just thought I'd shorten it down. We can have some DVD extras with the fleets taking a break at the amusement parks and playing around. "What the Jail situation? Oh don't worry we'll get there eventually. No big deal."
Kind've sad really. We had those massive discussions full of hope and dreams. Then it started going down hill with smaller discussions and a lot more negative comments.
emm for me this episode isn't worst. but it isn't good too. - - I still wait for sound stage and manga for my last hope of this series..........
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 22:17
Singapore... It was pouring like hell 2 hours ago...
Ah, I see. Coincidence.
But I like rain. As long as it doesn't flood, I'd welcome downpours. :)
We had those massive discussions full of hope and dreams. Then it started going down hill with smaller discussions and a lot more negative comments.
Well, like a boulder rolling down the hill, it'll stop, eventually.
Unless Season 4 is announced...... :frustrated:
lol fried really did ditch caro, that was unexpected. though ugly, voltaire is a better match imo. looks like she didnt make freid's leash long enough :heh:
what happened with ginga's blitz caliber? i didnt see subaru use it in the epilogue nor any time after she knocked down the door.
agito+signum unision was pretty cool though the colors were a bit surprising. good to see they're gonna stick together. funny how agito and rein will never be best buddies.
due, is she in a stasis mode or in hell?
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 22:35
Ah, I see. Coincidence.
But I like rain. As long as it doesn't flood, I'd welcome downpours. :)
Well, feeling dramatic today, I'll say it's a bad omen on the day of the last episode... :uhoh:
Like the Materialization of the fans' tears...
Well, like a boulder rolling down the hill, it'll stop, eventually.
Unless Season 4 is announced...... :frustrated:
I'm forgiving... But I'll see what the Manga and SS have to say first.
I don't think I want a season 4... simply because there's too many characters and they'd probably (frugally) divide the screen time between the 35873195831759 characters on this show. And I guess there is a possibility where they just won't mention some of the characters like the numbers for next season, but then what exactly was the purpose of this season? The numbers were supposed to be one of the main antagonists... and then there was Vivio, who turned out to be a disappointment because she returned from the darkside =\
Er back to what I was saying, they really need to stop adding groups of characters to the show unless they're like mindless drones. Those are okay. :) Otherwise, characters with potential, one at a time please.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 22:38
I don't think I want a season 4... simply because there's too many characters and they'd probably (frugally) divide the screen time between the 35873195831759 characters on this show. And I guess there is a possibility where they just won't mention some of the characters like the numbers for next season, but then what exactly was the purpose of this season? The numbers were supposed to be one of the main antagonists... and then there was Vivio, who turned out to be a disappointment because she returned from the darkside =\
Er back to what I was saying, they really need to stop adding groups of characters to the show unless they're like mindless drones. Those are okay. :) Otherwise, characters with potential, one at a time please.
The solution is simple and brutal.
They just need to grow the stones to axe off alot of people.
The solution is simple and brutal.
They just need to grow the stones to axe off alot of people.
What about napalm? :confused: That'd be quicker, right?
Or if you're into the whole torture and then death, what about releasing a disease that would turn them into zombies and then as they try to ravage the citizens of the boring planet for their brains, you can snipe them... :uhoh:
Maybe then we'd see Hayate do something other than sitting :)
Or maybe I should quit while i'm ahead.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 22:50
What about napalm? :confused: That'd be quicker, right?
Or if you're into the whole torture and then death, what about releasing a disease that would turn them into zombies and then as they try to ravage the citizens of the boring planet for their brains, you can snipe them... :uhoh:
*Back away slowly and reaches for the phone :uhoh:*
lol fried really did ditch caro, that was unexpected. though ugly, voltaire is a better match imo. looks like she didnt make freid's leash long enough :heh:
what happened with ginga's blitz caliber? i didnt see subaru use it in the epilogue nor any time after she knocked down the door.
agito+signum unision was pretty cool though the colors were a bit surprising. good to see they're gonna stick together. funny how agito and rein will never be best buddies.
due, is she in a stasis mode or in hell?
Due could possibly be in Statis...lest if another mad scientist brings her back from the dead via more twisted experiments...
I rated previous episodes in the poll from 3 for the worst (most of the first chapters), till 8 for episode 12 if I remember correctly, but this is the first time that one episode deserves the lowest of the possible qualifications.
Absurd, pointless, disappointing and an aberration, those are the best words to describe this episode. I didn’t expect anything coming from the last episode of this poor quality show, but this was out of the limit.
Ivory, this is nothing more than an insult to the fans, you have lost all my respect.
1 out of 10 : Painful
Saludos, Haru
PD: Forgive me, I needed to vent my frustration.
Kyoto Animation should do a remake of StrikerS (yes, I can dream too), with a finite cast, character development, plot, fights with a lot of beam instead of indoors battles with limiters, the visual quality of Air, a dramatic end, and a dance opening.I'll be frank this time: Balls to you, Lock. :D
At least I've got enough room to work with. And S4 is half hanging in the air somehow; however, they could always pull an Otome Zwei. But since 300 Yuunohans held the Legion of millions, this time will be the time of the 1 MILLION YUUNOHANS!!!
ORETACHI WO DARE DA TO OMOETTO YAGARU?!
serenade_beta
2007-09-23, 23:02
What about napalm? :confused: That'd be quicker, right?
Or if you're into the whole torture and then death, what about releasing a disease that would turn them into zombies and then as they try to ravage the citizens of the boring planet for their brains, you can snipe them... :uhoh:
Maybe then we'd see Hayate do something other than sitting :)
Or maybe I should quit while i'm ahead.
Or:
Nanoha killed by L.A. (cutting strings)
Fate killed by Lelouch (Suicide geass)
Hayate killed by shafting
Signum, Shamal, Doggy, Vita killed by Hime (chainsaw, Rapier, Crossbow, scythe)
Subaru killed by Lancelot (slash harken)
Teana killed by Rena (cleaver)
Caro, Erio, Lutecia, Lutecia's mom, Garyuu, Inzects, Godzilla, King Kong, Fried killed by nukes
RF6 other members killed by Yggdrasil (Indgnation Judgement)
Defected Numbers killed by Yagyu (everything he's got)... NO MERCY TO TRAITORS!!!!!!!! Since it's them, maybe a little......
Jail can be the new protagonist.
Note: I wanted to post this somewhere. But... Only I'm laughing, so Jokes thread is out.
MINAGOROSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 23:04
I'll be frank this time: Balls to you, Lock. :D
At least I've got enough room to work with. And S4 is half hanging in the air somehow; however, they could always pull an Otome Zwei. But since 300 Yuunohans held the Legion of millions, this time will be the time of the 1 MILLION YUUNOHANS!!!
ORETACHI WO DARE DA TO OMOETTO YAGARU?!
Erm... Shouldn't you wait for the third SS first :heh: ? At least you'll get abit more ammo than that one screenshot :heh:
Ottocycle
2007-09-23, 23:07
Erm... Shouldn't you wait for the third SS first :heh: ? At least you'll get abit more ammo than that one screenshot :heh:
He'll be too busy going 'ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA' for SS03.
In case you didn't know, they come out on the same day.
Due could possibly be in Statis...lest if another mad scientist brings her back from the dead via more twisted experiments...
i prefer to lean towards the possibility that hell accepted her. she was looking lifeless in her last scene. though ginga looked in a similar state when she was captured....
I'm starting what do people wanted to see in a series that pertains to the Mahou Shoujo genre so clearly that it pains. Maybe they should see a little more from the genre to see what they actually should expect from a series like this. Again, I wonder if this wasn't more a problem of people having their expectations to high rather than with the series itself...
Aw well, to each to his own
I have two probleme with this line of reasoning:
i wasnt drawn into Nanoha because it's a typical magical girl series on the contrary
that still not a reason for the lack of character developement or the gratuious fan service.
one more question, according to blogs/posts in this thread, subaru said something about combat cyborg mode. would that mean she can go into seed go into seed mode like when ginga was captured?
I'll be frank this time: Balls to you, Lock. :D
At least I've got enough room to work with. And S4 is half hanging in the air somehow; however, they could always pull an Otome Zwei. But since 300 Yuunohans held the Legion of millions, this time will be the time of the 1 MILLION YUUNOHANS!!!
ORETACHI WO DARE DA TO OMOETTO YAGARU?!
In another moment I had say “1 million? You mean 3!”, but now I can’t… please have my apologies, I can't understand your post Kha, you’re only stomping on the body of a half-dead warrior… Someone please kill me now.
Darco_emp
2007-09-23, 23:32
I was trying to kill Kha at time of the last post and steal his personality but alas its not to be... But I'll start the operation to snipes off the 300 one by one.
Since in Ep 17 Subaru went Seed when under extreme emotions, so my guess is under the right conditions she can. From her comments when fighting Ginga I'm assuming she has learned to use her IS as well.
@ Thread:
*deploys antisnipe shielding*
Okay! enough before you guys start another war here... and start lobbing photon torpedoes at each other and this thread erupts into a spiral/antipsiral war that can spiral out of proportion...
*plants Skyfall's flag*
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-23, 23:47
He'll be too busy going 'ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA' for SS03.
In case you didn't know, they come out on the same day.
Well, it helps to get pumped up :heh:
I can expect alot of yelling though...
I was trying to kill Kha at time of the last post and steal his personality but alas its not to be... But I'll start the operation to snipes off the 300 one by one.
Lol, you make me laugh :)
The solution is simple and brutal.
They just need to grow the stones to axe off alot of people.
Leave that to Dark Nanoha. :naughty:
No need to axe anyone, if they do something sufficiently epic. Consider something like utawarerumono: Nanoha is Karura, Fate is Touka, yet the show doesn't focus on them.
For season 4, even though in my opinion Nanoha S4 is as probable as a Rozen Maiden S3, I'd like something like that. A real epic story where grunts have a purpose, where aces play superstar commanders, where they lead armies against real opponents and fight huge battles.
Alternatively, a dark Nanoha storyline would have tremendous success. Just make her seemingly evil, get the white devil out when the TSAB doesn't evolve like she wanted, make her Robin Hood and Fate the Sheriff of Nottingham, and watch the drama as their differences in opinion clash and can't be repaired by mere befriending anymore.
arkhangelsk
2007-09-24, 02:46
No need to axe anyone, if they do something sufficiently epic. Consider something like utawarerumono: Nanoha is Karura, Fate is Touka, yet the show doesn't focus on them.
For season 4, even though in my opinion Nanoha S4 is as probable as a Rozen Maiden S3, I'd like something like that. A real epic story where grunts have a purpose, where aces play superstar commanders, where they lead armies against real opponents and fight huge battles.
Real armies as opponents? Oh, don't give 7Arcs something you know they cannot do. Either they'd shaft the real army, or they'd shaft the TSAB (as if there's anything left to shaft, which is not so bad except they'd shaft our heroines again in the process), or they'd shaft both.
Alternatively, a dark Nanoha storyline would have tremendous success. Just make her seemingly evil, get the white devil out when the TSAB doesn't evolve like she wanted, make her Robin Hood and Fate the Sheriff of Nottingham, and watch the drama as their differences in opinion clash and can't be repaired by mere befriending anymore.
This one they actually have a small chance of actualizing.
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-09-24, 04:47
despite what StrikerS has given us this season, this ending was pretty good...putting all forgotten unsolved plot holes aside and such, it was a nice closing to another Nanoha season and leaves it really wide open for another season.
- Final rush towards escape from Cradle, Nanoha, Vivio, and Hayate are saved by Subaru and Teana through Vice's motorcycle...one thing though, I thought they were surrounded by AMF defenses...unless its only inside the room where Nanoha, Vivio, and Hayate were located, Subaru could use her devices like if she were under normal conditions.
- Vice beats both Zafira and Chrono in this season of Nanoha...besides Zest, he had screen time towards the end of the season to make a come back and kick ass with Storm Raider in sniper form...he made Teana go "USO DA!" with his skills.:heh:
- Chrono...yay finally he arrives...and where was Cradle heading off to?...space? I thought its destination was clearly TSAB??...weird unless all those blasts made it go haywire, it was going towards space and Chrono and his space armada destroyed it.
- Signum and Agito doing unison, that was pretty cool. Seeing Signum in that form was as equal as seeing Fate in Sonic form. Although I felt sorry for Agito losing her "danna" and destroying what was left of AgitoXZest, atleast she found reason to live and become a unison device to an attribute of her type....fire! Signum looks like she could equal Hayate with her powers...and not to mention Fate and Nanoha as well.
- Erio saving Fate from a falling ceiling...good going Erio, although a lot of people will hate you for that and oh will the doujinshi's flow with that type of thought after this episode....:heh:
- Anyone caught Erio looking at Fate's...uh, boobies when she hugged both of them after the Cradle was destroyed? I mean Fate was still in Sonic form and pretty much, Sonic form is a really revealing form...:heh:
- The aftermath of the final battle...sever months have passed and its again spring and one year since RF6 was made. Too bad though, RF6 was being disbanded...everyone will be going on their separate ways. But Nanoha and company had one more task to do. Graduate the Forwards into Strikers status and have ONE LAST TRAINING MOCK BATTLE with them. Although Fate was against it, she joined in on it. Too bad, it wasn't animated...it would have been a great battle.:( and Hayate was shafted from the battle and Ginga and her did referee work.
- So...I don't know how much time has skipped but the epilogue sure showed a lot of interesting stuff.
- Vivio is in school and Nanoha, Arf, and Yuuno couldn't resist but take a peek in her classroom...and am I sensing NanohaXYuuno since RF6 got disbanded and well, Nanoha and Fate will be seeing each other less than when RF6 was together...hmmm...
- Teana is part of the Navy...or to better put it, she's an agent now, since she waned to become an agent. So I'm guessing she will be working with Fate and Shari and with Chrono as well.
- Hayate is with her knights and looks like Agito and Rein will become the best of friends.
- Ginga being seen with the Numbers and teaching them something...maybe about humanity?...and Genya checking out Nove...WTF??!!:twitch:
- Subaru saving two kids from a flooding ship...taking the steps to be just like Nanoha...and maybe influencing these kids to take up TSAB jobs?...hmm
- Looks like Vice is out of retirement for good...and a picture is shown with him, his sister, Alto, and Signum?...is there some kind of ViceXSignum going on?
- Lutecia and her mother, Alpito living in a peaceful valley...with Garyuu overlooking their location as protection. I guess the Saint Church found a cure to revive Alpito without using a relic.:heh:
- Erio has become a Pokemon Ranger!!:heh: Where is he working at anyways? Looks like a wild life preservation area or something...Erio sure does have an interest in animals. And it looks like the person being the master of Fried has changed to Erio instead of Caro...kinda sad, but she does have Voltaire though.
- And Nanoha taking on new students into the field battle examination...and thats how it ends!
- How can Vita still fight like that and have Eisen out like if he wasn't even badly damaged after hitting the core multiple times at full strength?...I mean, if I were Vita and I was bleeding like that, I wouldn't even think of getting up and smashing some more drones. But Vita does have a lot of spirit and I guess her will to fight made Eisen all better?...hmm
So thats it for StrikerS.
Alot of ups and downs in this season of Nanoha...26 episodes was new thing for Nanoha...even though the season is finished, there are still some plot holes to cover and most likely they will be covered in another season. Surprisingly for the last episode, the RAW that I watched was pretty good...the audio was pretty clear and so was the picture.
9/10.
Lunariska
2007-09-24, 06:35
back to the roots for season 4 imo ;/
teana goes with subaru to Navi, caro + erio are somewhere in nowhere on a dragon-befriending mission
the numbers are living quite happily, like gummibears, in the isolation
jail escapes
so, what's left:
nanoha, fate, grown up vivio ( maybe she's going to a internat, far far away ;D ), jail, hayate + her knights
other staff is on vacation or was transfered to other parts of the TSAB
and there, we got white devil and terror of death action x3
( no one object and crush my dreams or i'm gonna SLB you q.q )
I would say the ending is not too bad..... Hope they would do the fight .... :) 4 vs 4...
....
Somehow,after all of this,I think I had the same feeling when I was watching last episode of Mai-HiME for the first time.
Nah,It's not that I want it to be a bad ending or what but...but *sigh*
:eyespin: *You've got a very nice end 1 ea*
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4552/20070924madnessdq5.jpg
I just realized something...
Did anyone see what happened to Uno? Because I sure didn't...
Nightengale
2007-09-24, 08:17
I just realized something...
Did anyone see what happened to Uno? Because I sure didn't...
In that off-world prison with Jail, Tre, etc. It couldn't be seen clearly since it was only a small shot on the lower side of the screen where Fate sat, obscuring Uno, but she's definitely there.
Aaron008R
2007-09-24, 08:18
Hyaa... Not exactly up to par at all...
Anyway, some points...
- How did Hayate bind Quattro's wrists when magic is nullified just then?:eyebrow:
- Signum's new AOE attack is called 'Karyuu Issen'.
- In the final fight with the Aces vs. Strikers... Why were they using Limit Break? Fanservice?:heh: How the hell are the forwards supposed to survive that?:heh:
- About the remaining goody-goody Numbers, what about the Jail-babies inside them?
That's all from me for now.
Dream_Traveller
2007-09-24, 08:20
Well, considering from estimates that's been 7-8 months minimum and 1 year maximum since episode 26 in that "And, Afterwards" bit, I suspect that the Numbers went under some kind of abortion process. The thing is, how long had Jail actually kept his seed inside each of them...
Is Due deed or locked along with Jail and the senior Numbers?
Looks like Cross Mirage only has two modes. Or the 3rd mode wasn't shown.
Ottocycle
2007-09-24, 08:30
- In the final fight with the Aces vs. Strikers... Why were they using Limit Break? Fanservice?:heh: How the hell are the forwards supposed to survive that?:heh:
RF6 disbandment = NO MOAR LIMITER...
...And that the true ending: All the Forwards die once before moving on.
XD
arkhangelsk
2007-09-24, 09:20
In Vivio's last scene, she showed more development and character than she did the preceding 16 episodes, little as it was! Amazing! Maybe if she had at least been like that, it would have been possible to mold something out of her given a dozen episodes of effort. Ahh, too late...
Nightengale
2007-09-24, 09:24
In Vivio's last scene, she showed more development and character than she did the preceding 16 episodes, little as it was! Amazing! Maybe if she had at least been like that, it would have been possible to mold something out of her given a dozen episodes of effort. Ahh, too late...
Well, this scene is plausible due to the scene where adult!Vivio said that she had learned what she truly is as a organic weapon, tying in accordingly as to how adult!Vivio's intelligence and coherency tied in with current Vivio's.
The biggest flaw with Vivio's character was that they gave her 'character' only in the last 2 episodes.
Sigh..what monster have i unleashed onto the forums?It is ranting away at the series.
Kinny Riddle
2007-09-24, 10:31
It wasn't the best Nanoha series, but it wasn't bad either, in terms of pure entertainment. Sigh, now that it's over, I'm actually missing the show and all the fun, lol.
Signum unison with Agito was about one of the few highlights before the epilogue scenes. Too bad we don't get to see enough of her.
"The White Demon Incident" AKA "The WD Incident": Takes place a year after "The JS Incident" in some training planet. The entire training planet was obliterated due to an unchecked duel between the captains and forwards of Mobile Section Six. :heh:
If Vivio took Nanoha's surname, then what about Fate? Or is Fate-mama content with their daughter sharing her "roommate's" surname alone? (Fate: Anything that belongs to Nanoha belongs to me. :D )
Ginga ended up babysitting her "sisters". Did anyone notice Ginga and Subaru's dad flirting with Nove (the red-haired Number)? lol
And poor Hayate still never really gets to show off her powers. :sad:
The raw I watched was of rather blurry quality, I'm gonna have to wait for the subs to comment further.
Nightengale
2007-09-24, 10:36
If Vivio took Nanoha's surname, then what about Fate? Or is Fate-mama content with their daughter sharing her "roommate's" surname alone? (Fate: Anything that belongs to Nanoha belongs to me. :D )
Godparent.
Harry's name isn't Harry Potter-Black.
lol, who knows maybe subaru and ginga will get a new cyborg sister. if so theres going to be a nove subaru rivalry lol
i did like some parts of the ending though,like the mini agito vs rein II
Ginga ended up babysitting her "sisters". Did anyone notice Ginga and Subaru's dad flirting with Nove (the red-haired Number)? lol
She is a chip off Quint's block...
arkhangelsk
2007-09-24, 12:35
i did like some parts of the ending though,like the mini agito vs rein II
Yeah, it was utterly predictable, but still very cute.
bestwish
2007-09-24, 13:23
I'm not disappointed by this serie, because I don't expect anything.
I just love how Nanoha series are and whatever they will be.
For action scenes, actually I'm a fan of action animes (also movies), I agree that they have less action scence than A's. But quality is equal. Please remind this time they are full time officers so they can't do it all by themselves without permission and they have to think more about teammate, like Nanoha always teach Forwards.
Actually, I am not totally agree that some fans wait only shoujo-ai scenes or ending as well as action scenes.
Because Nanoha series have many things that worth to watch more than that.
In my opinion, actually Nanoha series have theme about 'inspiration of life' which are reasons you are living for and what you want to acheive.
Riot 6 was established by Hayate's inspiration to help other people to has no more sad or cry.
That why StrikerS ended this way.
I vote for the new season of Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha.
Nina.Wolken
2007-09-24, 14:48
I vote for the new season of Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha.
+1.
By the way, can someone tell me why Lulu lost the symbol on her forehead at the end of StS? ^^"
She still have it when she is in "jail" with the Nombers, but some month later it just has vanished...
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/203/bscap003gs5.jpghttp://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4619/bscap000tl2.jpg
An other mystery? :uhoh:
Must be from her device, after it was full inoperative, the mark must have been gone, so basically Lulu is an normal girl devoid of most mage powers...
Nina.Wolken
2007-09-24, 16:24
But she still has the power to control her bugs and to send them pretty far (i guess Elio and Caro are not in the meadow right next her house :uhoh:), and Garyuu remains summoned... I don't think she has lost any of her abilities.
But you're idea that the mark came from her device seems possible, thank'u for that ^^.
FlameSparkZ
2007-09-24, 17:25
But she still has the power to control her bugs and to send them pretty far (i guess Elio and Caro are not in the meadow right next her house :uhoh:), and Garyuu remains summoned... I don't think she has lost any of her abilities.
But you're idea that the mark came from her device seems possible, thank'u for that ^^.
Yeah, yet another thing unexplained :heh:
But I read somewhere that most of Lutecia's magic was sealed, maybe it's like a limiter, only stronger.
serenade_beta
2007-09-24, 17:37
the numbers are living quite happily, like gummibears, in the isolation
jail escapes
How is Jail supposed to escape......
Gummibears are happy? I'm happy when I eat them, but whether the reverse is true...
About Jail's plans being ruined because he's not dead- It's not hard to die...
What do I still care..................................
Nukes, please!
Why did all the numbers defect anyways......... *said with tired eyes*...
Couple episodes ago, they didn't flinch when trying to kill Teana, etc. Except Dieci to a point..........
Where did the family bond go?...
Cinque's the worst (well, she is not the worst, the situation is):
What? She wakes up and goes "Okay, I was wrong." :twitch:
I blame the writers/creators. Not the characters. Though they are fiction. But it doesn't matter.
What was it? 7Arc?
Dream_Traveller
2007-09-24, 17:40
It was laziness. I agree with you that the Numbers in terms of character development could have been strengthened considerably (damn Vivio, part o' the problem), but as said, the characters were good- it was the slacking developers.
I did like this episode but...what happened to development here?
And I guess we never will find out what happened with Cinque...
Deathkillz
2007-09-24, 17:41
*shrugs* im not surprised about the cinque plot hole - in fact i was quite impressed with vice who i was 100% that we would never see again :rolleyes:
If Vivio took Nanoha's surname, then what about Fate? Or is Fate-mama content with their daughter sharing her "roommate's" surname alone? (Fate: Anything that belongs to Nanoha belongs to me. :D )It's not surprising, really, when you think about it:
Vivio Takamachi-Testarossa-Harlaown.
It's no wonder a soft-hearted type like Fate wouldn't insist on inflicting that on the poor kid... :p
Key Board
2007-09-24, 17:57
the epilogue says a large scale seal has been placed on Lutecia's magic power
that part is true
Iknowwhatyou
2007-09-24, 21:37
They might make a OVA and be like Nanoha and Vita Erio and Fate.
It'd b like
Fate: Nanoha I gotta tell you something. On that ship when Erio held me he was so manly. Plus we're both girls so....
Nanoha: ....wat r u trying to say*FREAKS OUT*
*dramatic break up*
*Vita comes in*
Vita: Nanoha wats wrong. Who made you cry? I will protect you
Nanoha: OH VITA FATE DUMPED ME
Vita: CHANCE!
Nanoha: huh?
Vita: *chu Nanoha* Forget about her D:. Be with me foreva!
*after a big event Vita challenges Fate to a fight for hurting Nanoha and then Erio comes in to help Fate. Vita takes big damage and Nanoha jumps in. Finally after a big fight Fate ends up int Nanoha's arms agian*
In terms of character development for the numbers. That topic alone (for each number) could last about 5 episodes in total. Yes the writers and the people above them were too lazy or were "crunched" for time. Anyway issue that has lasted since the first season of Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha is the "forbidden city". They have to at least have to some character development for the numbers, Agito and Lutecia. Oh yah regarding Lutecia what about her "mother". With that does Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate accomplish their dreams?
In the end I loved Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS (not as much as A's and the first season). With that I'm willing to buy all three seasons now :heh:. I can't wait to get my hands on all three seasons.
They might make a OVA and be like Nanoha and Vita Erio and Fate.
It'd b like
Fate: Nanoha I gotta tell you something. On that ship when Erio held me he was so manly. Plus we're both girls so....
Nanoha: ....wat r u trying to say*FREAKS OUT*
*dramatic break up*
*Vita comes in*
Vita: Nanoha wats wrong. Who made you cry? I will protect you
Nanoha: OH VITA FATE DUMPED ME
Vita: CHANCE!
Nanoha: huh?
Vita: *chu Nanoha* Forget about her D:. Be with me foreva!
*after a big event Vita challenges Fate to a fight for hurting Nanoha and then Erio comes in to help Fate. Vita takes big damage and Nanoha jumps in. Finally after a big fight Fate ends up int Nanoha's arms agian*
Hahahaha if there was an OVA like that it would be fan made. XD
How is Jail supposed to escape......
Gummibears are happy? I'm happy when I eat them, but whether the reverse is true...
About Jail's plans being ruined because he's not dead- It's not hard to die...
What do I still care..................................
Nukes, please!
Why did all the numbers defect anyways......... *said with tired eyes*...
Couple episodes ago, they didn't flinch when trying to kill Teana, etc. Except Dieci to a point..........
Where did the family bond go?...
Cinque's the worst (well, she is not the worst, the situation is):
What? She wakes up and goes "Okay, I was wrong." :twitch:
I blame the writers/creators. Not the characters. Though they are fiction. But it doesn't matter.
What was it? 7Arc?
I know how you feel, how most of the numbers should have actually died, but losing them would be a loss to the community, maybe in the 4th season, the ones not in max security will get their own Barrier jackets (with nove have a blend of both Subaru and Ginga's outfit)
serenade_beta
2007-09-25, 00:24
maybe in the 4th season, the ones not in max security will get their own Barrier jackets (with nove have a blend of both Subaru and Ginga's outfit)
You suggest they will join the good side?
They go to good side= I'm REALLY, REALLY going off.
*Hmm... Let's see, move to Japan, commit a crime, blame it on this show...
Buahahahahaha! If that happens, I'll personally stop it! Ahahahahaha! &@#&#%$&%&~!*
Edit: *sigh* It's been a long day... Four hours of listening to anime music really does damage... need... sleep...
arkhangelsk
2007-09-25, 00:29
Why did all the numbers defect anyways......... *said with tired eyes*...
1, 2, 3, 4 and 7 hold strong loyalties for Scarlietti, but the others don't - they are just coasting. Frankly, if they were going to have those Pacifistic Negotiation scenes, those Numbers are the most likely to be converted.
Too bad their neutralization was assigned to the one person in RF6 who isn't the negotiation type!
Instead, the negotiation all went to Lutecia, who actually had a reason, but who was somehow adequately moved by Caro's crappy negotiation skills that Quattro felt the need to impose Hypnosis Hints.
Otto & Deed seemed pretty loyal(or just good at following orders without questions asked).
Also Cinque.
serenade_beta
2007-09-25, 00:35
1, 2, 3, 4 and 7 hold strong loyalties for Scarlietti, but the others don't - they are just coasting. Frankly, if they were going to have those Pacifistic Negotiation scenes, those Numbers are the most likely to be converted.
Instead, the negotiation all went to Lutecia, who actually had a reason, but who was somehow adequately moved by Caro's crappy negotiation skills that Quattro felt the need to impose Hypnosis Hints.
Yet there were the scenes about father, sister (Uno), and no dreams or hopes...
Feels like Lutecia's moment... Uuhhhhhhhhh...
Coasting..., ne...
*imagines*
Defecting numbers: "Bye-bye, Doctor, Uno (add honorifics). We suddenly don't give squat about you anymore. See ya"
Doctor: "What?!"
kekeke, as if!
Besides, even "coasting" doesn't mean they hated doing it. I'm not going to axe my father if I followed his orders, especially if I didn't hate it.
Agrees with above too.
*grabs a death note*
Who decided to do this!?
The perfect way to destroy any support I gave this show.
*reminded of that moment (Lutecia being convinced)*
*punches wall five times*
See you people later tomorrow.
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-09-25, 03:45
one question though about this episode...why was RF6 disbanded after a year?
was it just only for a year?....I know it might have been explained in the earlier episodes, but I think I must have forgotten.:heh:
But yea, its amazing how Vivio got some character development in this episode...nonetheless, the last few seconds in that scene of the epilogue...Yuuno looks like he's the head librarian of that school though...and why is it only now he and Arf appear.
Well, since RF6 is disbanded, I wonder if the aces, the knights, and the forwards or Strikers, ever get together and meet up like good times.
Nightengale
2007-09-25, 04:05
one question though about this episode...why was RF6 disbanded after a year?
was it just only for a year?....I know it might have been explained in the earlier episodes, but I think I must have forgotten.:heh:
RF6 was an experimental unit, it wasn't meant to last to begin with. 2ndly, it's creation in the first place was only for one purpose which is to prevent the prophecy from happening, which had been stopped. Once it's done, there's no real need for RF6 to continue its term. Not to mention core members like Nanoha and Fate didn't 'officially' transfer to the Ground Forces from Navy/Air but were borrowed.
Well, since RF6 is disbanded, I wonder if the aces, the knights, and the forwards or Strikers, ever get together and meet up like good times.
They will. Just look up the A's to StrikerS manga chapter I for a good example. It's just that they can't do it daily anymore, but that doesn't stop them from being in contact and going on missions together when possible. After all, it's not like any of the important characters are tied to the bias-Ground Forces, which with Regius's death, should be a lot more flexible and cooperative with different branches.
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-09-25, 04:20
well I was going all "WTF" when RF6 was being disbanded and such and everyone was getting dismissed by Hayate for the last time. Even though StrikerS wasn't as all of us would have hoped for, seeing RF6 go like that was kinda sad for me.:heh:
Although there was potential to make the Forwards' graduation from Forward status to Strikers status a little bit more emotional than just tearing up and stop crying after 2 seconds.:heh:
But having "Beautiful Amulet" play during that scene of the final mock battle was pretty well done. It had a sense of closure for the disbandment of RF6.
But their last mock battle would have been interesting to see....I guess the manga can animate that for us since they did do that for A's last chapter in the manga.
But if theres going to be a new season, I wonder if RF6 will be formed again. Its good to see that everyone left on good terms and that everyone is living a good life.
Although, how long has it been since the epilogue started after the final mock battle?...feels like 2 years has gone by, looking at Vivio going to school and such.
Too bad their neutralization was assigned to the one person in RF6 who isn't the negotiation type!Actually, Teana convinced Nove pretty well IMO, using her 1P colored self (a.k.a Subaru) for example against her :heh:
Otto & Deed seemed pretty loyal(or just good at following orders without questions asked).
Also Cinque.Now that you mention it, Cinque was the only one "oldschool" Numbers that defected.
I wonder what made her do it, assuming that she's been through most of stuff with other old Numbers...
Nightengale
2007-09-25, 06:48
Now that you mention it, Cinque was the only one "oldschool" Numbers that defected.
I wonder what made her do it, assuming that she's been through most of stuff with other old Numbers...
... She's afraid that Nove will run off to Teana, after Teana's yuri-persuasion power using her 1P counterpart's example. :heh:
Jokes aside, I recall her profile stating that her cool and calm personality makes her admired by the younger ones, along that she's technically the leader of the younger numbers. She'd probably hung around the younger ones more than her older sisters once the younger ones were born and are more attached to them later on.
Not to mention she's also quite fond of Nove... and vice-versa... :p
fond-lurve > onee-sama love > father love?
*runs*
arkhangelsk
2007-09-25, 09:25
Defecting numbers: "Bye-bye, Doctor, Uno (add honorifics). We suddenly don't give squat about you anymore. See ya"
Doctor: "What?!"
I think it is more like sisterly love is making them do this. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 7 are more on "daddy love".
Serenity85
2007-09-25, 11:59
I think it is more like sisterly love is making them do this. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 7 are more on "daddy love".
I agree with you on this^^ It really seemed to be 1-4 + 7 were Daddy with love you, while 6, 8-12 were for the good of my Sisters I'll follow him. As for poor cinque my bets is this. She was seen in the flashback fighting Zest (original 5 numbers) but was wonded/dmg ... etc and so had to be put back in the tube. By the time Jail got around to rebooting her a good portion of the new numbers had been created/activated and she probably felt more at ease with them then her daddy loving sisters.
I havn't seen the ep yet (gonna watch raw when I get home) but can someone clarify. Was a seal removed or added on Lutecia? (as someone had stated) It would make more sense removed (the symbol was gone in the end) cause it could have been part of the reason why Quttro could mind control her.
T__T I was really hoping for the final fight between Aces and StrikerS...
Need new series!! Let's go for a prequel, and make it take place 6 years after A's, where they are still teens in Highschool. With Arisa and Suzuka still around!
I think there was too much this series to spread around.
I missed the epic 1 vs 1 battles between Nanoha x Fate, or Fate x Signum.
Those were trading blows, and equally matched opponents.
Tiana managed to take out 3 of the numbers by herself (Although I like her 10x more because of her maneuver).
And Nanoha doesn't do anything strategic in attacks, she does a WAS... and that is nice. But for her battles, Excellion Buster! Divine Buster! Starlight Breaker!
(Okay, I REALLY love the Divine Buster on Quattro, but still).
Then Voltaire didn't do much, they just needed someone big to fight the giant bug...
I guess it's because the Aces are just so overpowering already, you can't make an enemy for them to fight on equal grounds...
But I wish there was a good 1 vs 1 fight at the end.
OR THEY COULD HAVE SHOWN THE ACE VS STRIKERS BATTLE!!!
Lol, overall I like Lyrical + A's better. StrikerS wasn't to my expectations, but nevertheless enjoyable. And being a Nanoha fan, there was no way I could pass up watching it.
Btw, anyone have a translation of the epilogue?
I don't understand japanese well enough to read and comprehend everything that displayed. (Doesn't help the text is unclear on the specific raw I watched...)
I can take a guess from the animation.
(ie: Caro went back to where she was prior to StrikerS, Tiana is an Enforcer / Enforcer trainee now, Subaru copys Nanoha even more, ect.)
Although personally, would it have been more fitting to all the numbers die instead of being arrested?
Dream_Traveller
2007-09-25, 16:19
Come now, they deserve to live. Indeed, I thought Quattro and Uno were going to perish but, you know Nanoha- not the season for deaths. Well, StrikerS was a partial exception to that, but...eh. :heh:
Come now, they deserve to live. Indeed, I thought Quattro and Uno were going to perish but, you know Nanoha- not the season for deaths. Well, StrikerS was a partial exception to that, but...eh. :heh:
Everybody keeps forgetting Precia, Alicia, Clyde and Rein I don't they?
Dream_Traveller
2007-09-25, 16:47
I know, their deaths, but...I was attempting to do a vague generalization of sorts. :heh:
Deathkillz
2007-09-25, 17:31
Everybody keeps forgetting Precia, Alicia, Clyde and Rein I don't they?
precia is currently MIA and alicia was already dead to begin with.
who the hell is clyde? and reinforce 1 became reinforce 2
what deaths? :p
basically speaking this series isnt famous for decapitation on screen (or being vapourised into atomic particles though that SB should have toasted quattro :rolleyes:)
serenade_beta
2007-09-25, 17:42
who the hell is clyde?
what deaths? :p
or being vapourised into atomic particles though that SB should have toasted quattro :rolleyes:)
I don't know, but I'll guess: Teana's brother...
Regius, Zest, Due, random people, drones, Jail's dream, the show, chance of 4th season
Don't mind, don't mind.............
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-25, 18:40
I can't tell if you two are kidding or not, but just in case it's the latter...
Clyde is Chrono's father.
Although personally, would it have been more fitting to all the numbers die instead of being arrested?
I won't say all, but most of them anyway.
and reinforce 1 became reinforce 2
It wasn't a reincarnation, Rein is just a small, tiny part of her power... Completely different.
If you watched "Shaman King", think Hao and Yoh I guess...
Serenity85
2007-09-25, 19:21
I always just consider rein 2 as a mini me of rein^^ General appearance and similar book but pails in comparison to the original. Which brings me to my next question:
who do you think is now stronger Signum+Agito unison or Hayate+Rein 2 unison? To me it doesn't appear Rein adds to much more power to Hayate (not to mention she isn't the true unison device for the tome of the night sky thus has no where near the power it use to have) while Agito is hinted at being a true device) just better control yet Agito gives Signum a major boost in juice (not to mention a real waredrobe make over, even rein + hayate didn't get that drastic a change)?
My bets are either equal or Signum+Agito is stronger. If what I read is true and better compatibility means a more drastic change in look then Signum owns big time.
arkhangelsk
2007-09-25, 21:18
You hadn't even seen the Hayate+Rein 2 unison do an attack, so badly the two of them had been shafted!
I think Rein was tuned to Hayate, and Agito just happened to be in tune with Signum. But Agito has a more aggressive character, so when the two of them fused, her percentage of dominance is much greater. It is a test of wills to see how much the appearance changes IIRC.
But definitely Agito is the much more suitable unit for Signum, especially if you believe in omyoudo. Rein's sokusei is either Neutral or Water, and Agito's is Fire.
krisslanza
2007-09-25, 21:27
I still don't know why people want the Numbers to (mostly) all die. Aside from Quattro (I assume Due is dead) the rest didn't do much to deserve dieing really.
When they even did their attack, they kept casualties to the absolute bare minimum, and it was Uno who ordered the destruction of anyone still in RH6.
So Uno should die too really...
arkhangelsk
2007-09-25, 21:32
Not "anyone"; "anything". The point was to resume bombardment in 5 minutes. Giving 5 whole minutes in the middle of a time-critical raid (even the sleepyhead TSAB had to mobilize eventually) is very nice.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-25, 21:36
I still don't know why people want the Numbers to (mostly) all die. Aside from Quattro (I assume Due is dead) the rest didn't do much to deserve dieing really.
When they even did their attack, they kept casualties to the absolute bare minimum, and it was Uno who ordered the destruction of anyone still in RH6.
So Uno should die too really...
Here's the magic, they don't have to deserve it to die.
People die all the time, whether they deserve it or not. And people who do deserve it, could live long and healthy lives.
That is war... Or terrorism... Or revolution... Or rebellion... Or whatever you want to classify this as.
arkhangelsk
2007-09-25, 21:45
Look, why do you want them to die? It is not like they even hogged up screen time.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-25, 21:51
Look, why do you want them to die? It is not like they even hogged up screen time.
MOST of them, I want MOST of them to die.
Why? Because if they don't hog it this time, you know they're going to do so for future story, if there's any. And I had hoped before that their deaths would at least bring about a good fight scene as well as show a different side of the 'good guys'.
And why are YOU so concerned for them?
Nightengale
2007-09-25, 21:54
Say whatever you want, but Nanoha and co. are professionals and 10 year soldier/police veterans. Even more for Nanoha and Fate since she's expected to train people and the other working in a variable work environment of different worlds. They don't shoot to kill unless absolutely necessary, and let's face it, has they ever reached the point of necessity even once in StrikerS?
As for future hog-time, I'd rather that considering how much the old trio bores me right now with their half-assed character development, I'd rather see some fresh new upstart... if it'll ever start. And by extension, Lutecia getting isolation may be a good thing. If there's a S4, we don't have to see her.
Mirificus
2007-09-25, 21:54
The irony is that they did set themselves up not to have to brings characters like Arf and Yuuno back but then they brought them back anyways.
arkhangelsk
2007-09-25, 21:59
MOST of them, I want MOST of them to die.
Why? Because if they don't hog it this time, you know they're going to do so for future story, if there's any. And I had hoped before that their deaths would at least bring about a good fight scene as well as show a different side of the 'good guys'.
And why are YOU so concerned for them?
I can understand you wanting them to die back when there is still some chance for their deaths to do some good. But it is Ep26 now, Chaos - if they hadn't died by now, there's no point in killing them in Ep26. If you killed them, you'd just have wasted scenes where they feel regret over it or something.
Quite frankly, I want them to be in the next story. They'd expand the cast so nicely that even 7Arcs will know there is no way they can portray them all properly, and thus they would concentrate. And the next "RF6" will be a much more properly sized unit with them in it.
Nightengale
2007-09-25, 22:02
The irony is that they did set themselves up not to have to brings characters like Arf and Yuuno back but then they brought them back anyways.
Yuuno and Arf can be attributed to fanservice. Honestly, it really feels like Augusta was set up so that they can both set up Teana, introduce L/Z and have one dose of Yuuno for no particular reason.
But damn, some of these Saint Church/Chrono's pseudo-storyline inclusion and these 3 Admirals thing really feel tacked on as well, even though they're supposed to have a degree of relevance. I keep asking myself, what the hell was Chrono's role in StrikerS anyway? What did Acous do that Yuuno can't (( in generality ))? Did we even need big-brother-wannabe to Hayate when Hayate is getting shafted like no one's business?
Even if these characters are maybe meant for a S4, it really feels like they're there for the sake of being there only as decorations. Mind-boggling.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-25, 22:02
Say whatever you want, but Nanoha and co. are professionals and 10 year soldier/police veterans. Even more for Nanoha and Fate since she's expected to train people and the other working in a variable work environment of different worlds. They don't shoot to kill unless absolutely necessary, and let's face it, has they ever reached the point of necessity even once in StrikerS?
My wish had came BEFORE I realized that things were going very far south from what I've expected. When episode 19-20 came out, I threw all hopes out the window.
You said it yourself, Canon hates me.
That point of necessity never came. Are you pleased with that? That it turned out like this? Do you wish that push did comes to shove?
As for future hog-time, I'd rather that considering how much the old trio bores me right now with their half-assed character development, I'd rather see some fresh new upstart... if it'll ever start. And by extension, Lutecia getting isolation may be a good thing. If there's a S4, we don't have to see her.
EDIT:
You seriously think they're going to replace them? They're probably going to overuse the trios till they die single.
I can understand you wanting them to die back when there is still some chance for their deaths to do some good. But it is Ep26 now, Chaos - if they hadn't died by now, there's no point in killing them in Ep26. If you killed them, you'd just have wasted scenes where they feel regret over it or something.
I meant during the last battle scene, not now.
Having it now would just be silly... Overreacting-Legion kind of silly.
Nightengale
2007-09-25, 22:08
That point of necessity never came. Are you pleased with that? That it turned out like this? Do you wish that push did comes to shove?
No, in fact I hate it. Nanoha is not the TSAB show, so I don't give a damn how much Mid-childa is in a state of peril when the main characters themselves are winging things as they go.
It's not like I know Mid-childa beyond some forest, trees, abandoned DISTRICTS, some TSAB offices, a restaurant and a hotel anyway.
You seriously think they're going to replace them? They're probably going to let them die single.
No, but DON'T TRY to develop their characters next time. The biggest fault with Hayate's SHAFT in particular wasn't the actual shaft, but how much tease and hints and all that came about with her supposed character development, which WENT NOWHERE. Same to Fate and Nanoha. They tried to take several interesting steps and potential ideas, but ended up half-assed for reasons stated many times.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-25, 22:34
No, but DON'T TRY to develop their characters next time. The biggest fault with Hayate's SHAFT in particular wasn't the actual shaft, but how much tease and hints and all that came about with her supposed character development, which WENT NOWHERE. Same to Fate and Nanoha. They tried to take several interesting steps and potential ideas, but ended up half-assed for reasons stated many times.
Oh yeah! I would like to take this chance to rub it in the faces of paranoid people who thought that either Nanoha or Hayate or both were going to die this season :p
You know who you are...
krisslanza
2007-09-25, 22:41
A better question... How many people WANTED Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate to die? Given the overall low view I keep getting from other's of StrikerS I would highly doubt that not at least a few people here wished they died just so they wouldn't have to 'worry' about a S4.
Ottocycle
2007-09-25, 22:41
LOL ED1. That was some good times.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-25, 22:45
LOL ED1. That was some good times.
Yeah :D I remembered... :D
"Nanoha's goona lose her powers! Look! She's not in barrier Jacket!"
*Goes to dig out more insult comments from past threads..*
EDIT:
"OMG! Nanoha's putting on a red dress and using make-up! She's suicidal!!"
"But-"
"Don't you know?! That's how women say that they don't want to live anymore!!"
"Erm-"
"NOOOOOOO!!!"
"Sigh...."
~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~, ~,
"AHHH! Nanoha has to use the bathroom!"
"But she's human..."
"She's a HIGH LEVEL MAGE! They should be able to deal with those things!!!"
"..."
~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~, ~,
"OH SHI-! Nanoha fire one less projectile in that Accel Shooter!!"
"..."
~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~,~, ~,
"CRAP! Her divine buster last 10 seconds shorter than before!!!"
"..."
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-09-25, 22:59
A better question... How many people WANTED Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate to die? Given the overall low view I keep getting from other's of StrikerS I would highly doubt that not at least a few people here wished they died just so they wouldn't have to 'worry' about a S4.
Oh yeah! I would like to take this chance to rub it in the faces of paranoid people who thought that either Nanoha or Hayate or both were going to die this season :p
You know who you are...
ahahaha...heh,heh,:heh:, I admit, I was one of those people who went paranoid after viewing that manga chapter with a bleeding and close to death Nanoha in Vita's arms...:heh:
Looks like everything went well at the end...and Hayate didn't go suicidal to protect everyone because of the prophecy...and because she got shafted too much.:heh:
But yea, I was one of them, but I didn't know that there were a lot of people over reacting to the first ending.:twitch:
serenade_beta
2007-09-25, 23:00
A better question... How many people WANTED Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate to die? Given the overall low view I keep getting from other's of StrikerS I would highly doubt that not at least a few people here wished they died just so they wouldn't have to 'worry' about a S4.
Before Ep26, No.
Afterwards, Yes x 68
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-25, 23:02
But yea, I was one of them, but I didn't know that there were a lot of people over reacting to the first ending.:twitch:
I swear if I had more time and dig up the past, I'll find a common link between all those people... :D
After all, only a few people had shown signs of overreacting at the slightest hint... Let alone a full 1:30 min video :p
serenade_beta
2007-09-25, 23:05
Here's the magic, they don't have to deserve it to die.
People die all the time, whether they deserve it or not. And people who do deserve it, could live long and healthy lives.
That is war... Or terrorism... Or revolution... Or rebellion... Or whatever you want to classify this as.
Well said.
What's magical is that none of them did die (let's put Due aside, who got 4 kills and went to sentokijin heaven). Or the good either (putting aside the two old men).
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-25, 23:52
Well said.
What's magical is that none of them did die (let's put Due aside, who got 4 kills and went to sentokijin heaven). Or the good either (putting aside the two old men).
Speaking of which, I wonder if reviving Cyborgs any easier? I mean, if even their biological part is made from scratch...
For that matter, why are they keeping her in a tube?
krisslanza
2007-09-25, 23:58
Maybe if someone wants to reactivate her? I imagine being mostly cyborgs a 'dead' Number could be repaired back to operational status if they aren't utterly annihilated? *shrug*
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-26, 00:05
Maybe if someone wants to reactivate her? I imagine being mostly cyborgs a 'dead' Number could be repaired back to operational status if they aren't utterly annihilated? *shrug*
Another thing is that base on what I saw from Subaru, Ginga, Quattro and Cinque... A Cyborg can take quite a bit of punishment, I'm suspicious of how easy she went down.
serenade_beta
2007-09-26, 00:08
Speaking of which, I wonder if reviving Cyborgs any easier? I mean, if even their biological part is made from scratch...
For that matter, why are they keeping her in a tube?
Who?
Maybe if someone wants to reactivate her? I imagine being mostly cyborgs a 'dead' Number could be repaired back to operational status if they aren't utterly annihilated? *shrug*
Too bad the only one who performs sentoukijin technology is Jail, and it seems (since I've yet to watch the episode) that he is imprisoned in some place left to rot for eternity...... :frustrated::upset:
Hahhhh... The MQ RAW came out... I'll need to gather up my courage and watch it tomorrow... :(:upset:
Another thing is that base on what I saw from Subaru, Ginga, Quattro and Cinque... A Cyborg can take quite a bit of punishment, I'm suspicious of how easy she went down.
*shrug* I still feel it is too convenient (plot device?). Uber-attack from Nanoha that rips apart the ship leaves Quattro unconscious (with no real permanent loss except her dreams), but Zest who lost to Cinque ends up killing Due.
Meh, they are mostly going to put Due's body in safekeeping and by safekeeping I mean in a glass jar with an field to prevent her from assuming a disguise of another person and breaking out...
*Goes to dig out more insult comments from past threads..*
EDIT:
Dude, you forgot: "ZOMG RAISING HEART AT ENDING = NANOHA LOSING POWAHS"
(yes, thats mine. :heh:)
Somehow,after all of this,I think I had the same feeling when I was watching last episode of Mai-HiME for the first time.
Personally, it feels more like the Mai-Otome ending (or rather, the series as a whole).
Like Otome, StrikerS had way too many characters. It would've been fine if the Numbers were evil-to-the-core characters who dies in the end, but that didn't happen.
There was too many factions introduced at once: [Lulu + Zest], [Erio/Caro], [Subaru/Ginga/Tea], [Numbers+Jail] and [Jail+Vivio].
The LuZest faction might have worked well with just Erio+Caro. (Summoner story, Erio becoming a DK/Cario's partner, Ground forces' secret w/ Zest)
The SuGinTea faction might have worked well with Numbers+Jail (Cyborgs-focused storyline, Tea overcoming her inferiority complex)
The Jail+Vivio storyline would've been just another rehash of A's, but at least with a more definite direction (Developing Nanoha's motherly instincts, and *prepares anti FxN shield* relationship development between Nanoha and Yuuno -> NxY (becoming an official couple), Vivio becoming their adopted child. Fate + Hayate = shafted?)
Last but not least, they need a bigger budget, dammit. For a 2007 production, it surely looked pretty crappy most of the time. Definitely looked like the budget they had for N1/N2, but it wouldn't had been that much of a problem if it stuck with 13 episodes...
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About N4?
It would be hard. The series is called Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ___
To keep the series fresh, they would either have to use the younger characters (Erio/Caro/Subaru/Tea/Ginga/Vivio/Numbers) or have a brand new set of finite characters, in a new setting altogether (new setting can just mean another dimension). The problem here is that Nanoha will have to make some kinda of rather significant appearance in the series, or else people like me would be asking, "Why is this show called MGLN when Nanoha plays no significant roles in it?"
Its just like Mai-Otome (I won't bother to spoil, but people who have watched it know what I mean). Or having a Naruto sequel without naruto. Or a new Inuyasha movie about every character in the series EXCEPT inuyasha himself. Thats a problem I see with most series with a main character's name in the title.
Unless they change it to Magical Girl Age-changing Vivio or something.
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-26, 00:14
Who?
From what I've heard, TSAB is keeping her in one of those lifepods...
(I think that's the right term...)
Too bad the only one who performs sentoukijin technology is Jail, and it seems (since I've yet to watch the episode) that he is imprisoned in some place left to rot for eternity...... :frustrated::upset:
Well, there is Subaru and Ginga's original Creator... Unless the TSAB dump him/her in prision as well... OR he/she bit the dust...
No matter, I have a better plan... OC thread stuff
serenade_beta
2007-09-26, 00:14
Meh, they are mostly going to put Due's body in safekeeping and by safekeeping I mean in a glass jar with an field to prevent her from assuming a disguise of another person and breaking out...
*snort* Oh the fun...
Liar's Mask... Supposedly, it's supposed to be undetectable. Though if a body goes missing from a glass jar, anyone will notice.
*imagines*
Nanoha: *lines every TSAB employee* *shoots them all to be safe*
... *sweatdrop*
From what I've heard, TSAB is keeping her in one of those lifepods...
(I think that's the right term...)
*shall check tomorrow*
Well, there is Subaru and Ginga's original Creator... Unless the TSAB dump him/her in prision as well... OR he/she bit the dust...
I'm guessing he's gone. Otherwise, he would have caused an incident by now. If I was obsessed with such (interesting) research, I wouldn't be able to hold back...
No matter, I have a better plan... OC thread stuff
What's OC anyways?
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-26, 00:16
Dude, you forgot: "ZOMG RAISING HEART AT ENDING = NANOHA LOSING POWAHS"
(yes, thats mine. :heh:)
It's all the same :p
*snort* Oh the fun...
Liar's Mask... Supposedly, it's supposed to be undetectable. Though if a body goes missing from a glass jar, anyone will notice.
*imagines*
Nanoha: *lines every TSAB employee* *shoots them all to be safe*
... *sweatdrop*
Well, Due was also made to deceive TSAB bio scanners...
...Assuming she could fake her death...
serenade_beta
2007-09-26, 00:20
...Assuming she could fake her death...
Don't get my hopes up... *half-smile, half-grimace*
Chaos2Frozen
2007-09-26, 00:24
Don't get my hopes up... *half-smile, half-grimace*
*Shrugged, half-smile, half-grimace*
Canon hates me...
HOWEVER, if you could convince one of the chosen loved ones (Nightengale, Keroko, Kha), then you'll have a better shot :heh:
(Hey I'm in the hot seat with you as well :p)
Liar's Mask... Supposedly, it's supposed to be undetectable.
But it appears to have its limitations. It seems that it can't change her gender and height, at least. Among a few other things.
The Jail+Vivio storyline would've been just another rehash of A's, but at least with a more definite direction (Developing Nanoha's motherly instincts, and *prepares anti FxN shield* relationship development between Nanoha and Yuuno -> NxY (becoming an official couple), Vivio becoming their adopted child. Fate + Hayate = shafted?)It would have been the same as with NxF. If you only use a moe blob to develop a relationship, it's going to fail. What they needed was to show it non-ambiguously through many details of the show, like Nanoha and <insert name> being more intimate during everyday scenes, or in comments from others, have it come up stated as fact. Just like in the nano 4komas :D
I could never stomach Nanoha as a mother. She is a 19 year old hot-blooded white devil, not mother Theresa, she should have other interests. Her impulsive and stubborn personality is what made her stand out a bit in MGLN and A's. In SS she regressed to perfect flat character, except in 8 but that was never reused.
About N4?
It would be hard. The series is called Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ___After A and SS, it should be Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha EX, probably something like EXceed or EXplosion :p
There is still potential left, just have 7arcs rip the romance of the three kingdoms, or something, make Nanoha and Co generals and you're set. You can even make it a interplanetary struggle for epicness. That is, if 7arcs was actually able to do it, and they are not.
I'm just praying that the licence is either given to another studio or quietly forgotten. Another season of StrikerS quality would be a disaster.
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-09-26, 04:42
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About N4?
It would be hard. The series is called Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha ___
To keep the series fresh, they would either have to use the younger characters (Erio/Caro/Subaru/Tea/Ginga/Vivio/Numbers) or have a brand new set of finite characters, in a new setting altogether (new setting can just mean another dimension). The problem here is that Nanoha will have to make some kinda of rather significant appearance in the series, or else people like me would be asking, "Why is this show called MGLN when Nanoha plays no significant roles in it?"
Its just like Mai-Otome (I won't bother to spoil, but people who have watched it know what I mean). Or having a Naruto sequel without naruto. Or a new Inuyasha movie about every character in the series EXCEPT inuyasha himself. Thats a problem I see with most series with a main character's name in the title.
Unless they change it to Magical Girl Age-changing Vivio or something.
Interesting ideas for a season 4, but it would be hard to come up with a subtitle to the "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha" title.
Another problem that might go with another season of Nanoha is the inclusion of new characters again. I mean most of the Numbers didn't die, we still have Scaglietti in jail (hahahah jail...Scaglietti...haha) who still looks like he can break out of jail...somehow, and the newly promoted Strikers team from RF6.
hmmm...maybe they can set it on Earth again just like back in the first two seasons and get a completely new random person on Earth (most likely Japan) and give that person a completely new random device from someone who was in the Scrya tribe or some other tribe or place in another dimension...or something like that:heh:. The only complex thing is to somehow relate it all back to Nanoha because of the title.
Nightengale
2007-09-26, 04:49
Speaking of which, there's one thing I'd like clarified.
Are Jail and his band of loyal-tans imprisoned in separate off-world prisons each (( I think I heard this, but I'm not sure )), are they together in one off-world prison, or is not it incited clearly? Since the traitor-tans are clearly in one isolation center together.
I need it for the OC thread...
I could never stomach Nanoha as a mother. She is a 19 year old hot-blooded white devil, not mother Theresa, she should have other interests. Her impulsive and stubborn personality is what made her stand out a bit in MGLN and A's. In SS she regressed to perfect flat character, except in 8 but that was never reused.
I'm just praying that the licence is either given to another studio or quietly forgotten. Another season of StrikerS quality would be a disaster.
True .I was expecting nanoha to be developed as a teacher.As she has now 4 forwards under her,she has much to tell and teach.
Yeah,but another studio wont work.Perhaps its better for nanoha to be forgotten......and be revived and renewed a few years later?
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-09-26, 05:26
Nanoha can never be forgotten. I mean its pretty popular enough to spark conversations about how this show is different from most "mahou shoujo" titles in anime. I don't know about how it might work well with a different studio. 7arcs is the only studio familiar with Nanoha...if another studio gets it's license, the most likely thing to happen is that they might go and change the storyline from the very beginning or alter it in a way thats its their way of seeing the show in their eyes.
Maybe we'll give 7arcs to correct themselves and do another season CORRECTLY without making it another "StrikerS" disaster.
BTW, even though the Cradle's destination was TSAB, why was it going out of orbit and into space?...weird, unless the battle inside the cradle must have made it all berserk and just traveled up there for no reason.
Nightengale
2007-09-26, 05:35
BTW, even though the Cradle's destination was TSAB, why was it going out of orbit and into space?...weird, unless the battle inside the cradle must have made it all berserk and just traveled up there for no reason.
No one said anything about Cradle headed towards TSAB. It was going to its optimum point IN SPACE, where it can draw power from the 2 moons to become complete.
Well, clearly that aspect of the Cradle's moon-powers must've been temporarily crippled when the main reactor was destroyed, or the ship somehow slowed down to the point where it couldn't reach optimum point earlier than the fleet, which it was supposed to.
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-09-26, 05:41
No one said anything about Cradle headed towards TSAB. It was going to its optimum point IN SPACE, where it can draw power from the 2 moons to become complete.
Well, clearly that aspect of the Cradle's moon-powers must've been temporarily crippled when the main reactor was destroyed, or the ship somehow slowed down to the point where it couldn't reach optimum point earlier than the fleet, which it was supposed to.
oh....I must have missed that point somewhere during the last few episodes.:heh:
thanks for the info though.
So after the Cradle reached its optimum point in space to gather its power from the moons, it would then strike whatever it was charging power for, down straight to TSAB?
Well if any numbers join the good side in S4. I am hoping for Dieci and Wendi.
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