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iamandragon
2007-09-27, 19:06
Cheers for the Clannad section's opening!
I've always adored Key's works, and was quite annoyed by how it always get destroyed by Toei...and the movie out there is a pain to even start watching. (I only saw the promo and I know it's no good)
Back on topic:
I've been playing the translated version of the game, and its in Chinese. Unfortunately, the Kotomi route is not yet translated so if anyone can give me a insight of what happened there? Would seriously want to know what's going on with the briefcase--even I don't understand what's going on the picture managed to make me cry!
DazarGaidin
2007-09-27, 19:40
Can someone break down what the heck this is about? People are foaming at the mouth for this anime so they must know something about it already (based on a game i think?). I read the ann description but its kinda confusing.
iamandragon
2007-09-27, 19:44
Can someone break down what the heck this is about? People are foaming at the mouth for this anime so they must know something about it already (based on a game i think?). I read the ann description but its kinda confusing.
If you want to be heavily spoiled, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Clannad_characters
If you want it short, read the plot section of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clannad_%28visual_novel%29
There's just too much in Clannad to fit it in one page, so you'll have to be a bit more specific on what you want to know.
DazarGaidin
2007-09-27, 19:49
Ok thanks, i tried the second link and it helped a lot...kinda expounded on the ann description to where it made more sense. :) *avoids chance of spoilers in 1st link*
houkoholic
2007-09-27, 20:55
Would seriously want to know what's going on with the briefcase--even I don't understand what's going on the picture managed to make me cry!
Massive game spoilers
Last warning
Many years ago Kotomi's parents were invited to give a lecture on their latest research, however their plane was involved in an accident and they were going down. Just before they left Kotomi was angry at them for not being able to spend Christmas together, her parents tried to calm her down by promising to give her a present. Kotomi's mum brought a teddy bear at the airport as the present. During the final moments, Kotomi's parents scribbled a letter for Kotomi, and they put the letter, as well as the teddy bear inside the suit case. The last thing that Kotomi's father wrote was "If you found this suit case, please take it to my daughter" and signed it. Kotomi's guardian (her parent's assistant) explained that from the traces of sand found inside the suitcase the has been through places like Africa, and that the various translated versions of Kotomi's father's message into different language showed that the case was passed on from person to person in different countries and eventual made its way back in the hands of Kotomi.
therationalpi
2007-09-27, 22:29
Really looking forward to this show. Really love KyoAni's work, and they did a great job with both Kanon and Air.
I have a few questions, most of which are pretty basic. I'm not much for asking about story/character stuff cause I like to be surprised.
What channel is it going to be running on?
What time is it going to be showing?
How many episodes is it expected to run?
Which fansub groups are currently planning to translate it?
To answer question 1 and 2:
TBS will be airing the premiere on 5th October at 2:25am (2:01am for 2nd ep, and subsequent eps will be at 1:55am).
Broadcast on MBS will begin on the 14th of October at 1:55am.
Broadcast on CBC will begin on the 18th of October at 3:20am (2nd and subsequent eps at 2:50am).
Broadcast on BS-i will begin on the 26th of October at 1am.
3. Currently the number of episodes is unknown.
4. According to (the sketchy) AndrewLB Fansub Wiki (http://www.andrewlb.com/fansub/pukiwiki.php?Fall%202007), the following groups have shown an intent to sub Clannad:
a.f.k., Eclipse, Fallingsnow, Sprocket Hole Subs, idPRO
iamandragon
2007-09-28, 10:07
Massive game spoilers
Last warning
Many years ago Kotomi's parents were invited to give a lecture on their latest research, however their plane was involved in an accident and they were going down. Just before they left Kotomi was angry at them for not being able to spend Christmas together, her parents tried to calm her down by promising to give her a present. Kotomi's mum brought a teddy bear at the airport as the present. During the final moments, Kotomi's parents scribbled a letter for Kotomi, and they put the letter, as well as the teddy bear inside the suit case. The last thing that Kotomi's father wrote was "If you found this suit case, please take it to my daughter" and signed it. Kotomi's guardian (her parent's assistant) explained that from the traces of sand found inside the suitcase the has been through places like Africa, and that the various translated versions of Kotomi's father's message into different language showed that the case was passed on from person to person in different countries and eventual made its way back in the hands of Kotomi.
Oh that's so sweet...Thanks houkoholic for the information!
Leo_Otaku
2007-09-28, 15:18
I'm still playing as well I would have to say though Komoti's story I found better than Kyou's and for the most part Tomoyo's
iamandragon
2007-09-28, 18:22
Tomoyo is very popular, but it's a bit long.
Kotomi's story is very well edited. The briefcase scene, especially.
Oh...if I remember KEY had this recommended playthrough order which allows us to get the most story and scenes out of CLANNAD:
Sagara Misae --> Sakagami Tomoyo --> Miyazawa Yukine --> Fujibayashi Ryou --> Fujibayashi Kyou--> Hiiragi Kappei --> Sunohara Mei --> Ichinose Kotomi --> Ibuki Fuko --> Koumura Toshio --> Furukawa Nagisa
The last three (Fuko -> Toshio -> Nagisa) is very important, if you don't follow this order you will miss a few scenes in both the main story and the after story.
Misae and Tomoyo are very close friends, and it'll be better understood if you play the Misae route before Tomoyo route.
Ryou route should be played before the Kyou route, ad Kyou is just the continuaton of the Ryou route.
Kotomi route is actually very independent of other routes, but it'll be better played Nagisa route.
Misae and Tomoyo route can be done simultaneously. Save on the 21th of Apirl--enter Misae's room to enter Misae's route and otherwise enter Tomoyo route.
Yukine and Mei route can be done simultaneously. Save on the 20th of Apirl--choose to help to enter Mei route, otherwise Yukine route
Ryou, Kyou and Kappei routes can be done simultaneously. Save on the 20th of Apirl--choose help to enter Kappei route. Otherwise, save on the 28th of Apirl--choose short hair for Ryou and long hair for Kyou.
Toshio and Nagisa route can be done simultaneously. Save on the 30th of Apirl--choose 'pass ball to me' to enter Nagisa route, otherwise enter Toshio route.
Information from the 90hours reading guide.
Is Clannad another "crying game"?
Is Clannad another "crying game"?
Short answer: Yes.
Short answer: Yes.
Thats more like the long answer.
iamandragon
2007-09-29, 16:03
Is Clannad another "crying game"?
If you want a long answer...
Unlike Kanon, Clannad has a lighter touch to it. It does not focus too much on boy-girl love(although in some character's route it does), but more on the 'family love' and the sweetness of friendship, which is clearly seen in the Nagisa route and After Story. Also Clannad has a very clean cut in touching moments. They make you cry slightly, but not like Air and Kanon where you'd cry to exhaustion. Also the humors in Clannad is pretty good. I have a count of spitting tea on my monitor for at least four times due to laughter.
Touching moments does not necessary occur between the main character and the girls. You(the main character) actually got the most touching non-boy-girl moments. Listen to the BGM 'to the same heights' to get a better idea of it.
Ascaloth
2007-09-30, 00:12
So, what exactly is the "dango" they're talking about in Dango Kanzoku? I'm still somewhat at a loss as to what these amoeba-like things are. :D
Nightengale
2007-09-30, 00:17
So, what exactly is the "dango" they're talking about in Dango Kanzoku? I'm still somewhat at a loss as to what these amoeba-like things are. :D
Wikipedia is your friend for general stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dango
Ascaloth
2007-09-30, 00:31
Wikipedia is your friend for general stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dango
:twitch:
Now that just made it even creepier for me... :heh:
Sorry about that. I thought the "dango" was something specifically affiliated with CLANNAD, instead of a general term...
Nightengale
2007-09-30, 00:38
Well, a family of dumplings... I suppose from Nagisa's POV is quite... her in a lot of ways.
Can anyone lead me to a tutorial on how to transfer the voices from the PS2 version to the PC version?
Preferably English if possible, though if it's not too long and complicated, Japanese is fine.
houkoholic
2007-09-30, 06:57
Well, a family of dumplings... I suppose from Nagisa's POV is quite... her in a lot of ways.
The song is more or less Nagisa's theme. It basically hints at the core elements of the story.
Can anyone lead me to a tutorial on how to transfer the voices from the PS2 version to the PC version?
Preferably English if possible, though if it's not too long and complicated, Japanese is fine.
Not in English, but this is the most clear guide:
http://clarezone.blog31.fc2.com/blog-entry-71.html
iamandragon
2007-09-30, 07:04
:twitch:
Now that just made it even creepier for me... :heh:
Sorry about that. I thought the "dango" was something specifically affiliated with CLANNAD, instead of a general term...
It is. But unless you want to be spoiled, read ahead:
In the world of Clannad there's an anime called the 'big dango family' (Dango Daikazuku). And it happens to be a very old one, which is (mysteriously) Nagisa's favourite and (even more mysteriously) everyone else apart from Tomoya And Sunohara likes it very much.
houkoholic
2007-09-30, 07:20
It is. But unless you want to be spoiled, read ahead:
In the world of Clannad there's an anime called the 'big dango family' (Dango Daikazuku). And it happens to be a very old one, which is (mysteriously) Nagisa's favourite and (even more mysteriously) everyone else apart from Tomoya And Sunohara likes it very much.
Not mysterious at all, consider their respective upbringing. ;)
To Nagisa, loving her parents are second nature, since her parents gave her so much unrequist love and they get along together so well, heck she even thinks (mistakingly) that her parents gave up their acting career for her. Tomoya hated his dad and his mum died when he was young, thus he doesn't understand what family love is. Sunohara went to boarding house to escape from his nagging parents and sister, he is loved by his family but he view it as annoying and a burden. So is it any wonder what their opinion on an anime about families differ?
iamandragon
2007-09-30, 11:44
Well mysterious in Tomoya's point of view, but you've the rest explained well.
Sunohara in Clannad, apart from adding comedy factor, is actually a comparison of a 'good delinquent' and a 'bad delinquent' because both you and him are labeled as a delinquent. However you are actually a 'good delinquent' who begin as labeled as one but are actually a kind and smart kid. Sunohara, on the other hand, is weak, stupid, and loves bullying the weak. He's making sure us the readers don't catagory you(Tomoya) as the bad guy.
Spectacular_Insanity
2007-10-02, 01:59
Yeah, ok, I read some online reviews of the general plot overview, and I'm STILL confused as hell....
Look's so-so to me. More for fans of the game than an anime for more general audiences.
Malintex_Terek
2007-10-02, 02:06
What's all this "dream boat" stuff?
Yeah, ok, I read some online reviews of the general plot overview, and I'm STILL confused as hell....
Look's so-so to me. More for fans of the game than an anime for more general audiences.
What's there to be confused about? The story is a general school life story with an emphasis on the family theme. Unless you've read spoilers, that's all there is to it. I wouldn't go into this with anything other than that as an expectation and let the flow of the story take you for a ride. And with KyoAni at the helm of the production, it'll sure be one heck of a ride.
2H-Dragon
2007-10-05, 07:20
So what's the chances one/both of the main leads dying by the end a la Air? Or a tragic ending?
Nothing wrong with drama, but I need happy endings k. Kanon I consider a happy ending and Air I don't.
toxic_trance
2007-10-05, 08:30
k..i might sound repetitive...but..who are the actual good subbers doin this show??? Philantropy-Sekai and TH are cool..but i was hoping that Eclipse would take it up. Is there any news on it since they havent said anything in their site??? Plus..with Shakugan..can we expect Eclipse to sub CLANNAD too???
Eclipse will sub it if they can be bothered with it. Remember that they will sub roughly 2 weekly shows at a time. With Hayate no Gotoku still going, it's a bit tough to say if they will pick up both SnSII and Clannad.
Tomislav
2007-10-05, 11:51
I have a question, if the answer is an heavy spoiler, please feel free to spoil, I've only seen Ep. 1 but I am already in love with the show :)
So, are the girl, Nagisa, and the boy, Tomoya, living in the same reality? I mean, I had the feeling that Nagisa was only, like, a spirit, that she wasn't actually alive.
Thank you very much :)
iamandragon
2007-10-05, 22:23
I have a question, if the answer is an heavy spoiler, please feel free to spoil, I've only seen Ep. 1 but I am already in love with the show :)
So, are the girl, Nagisa, and the boy, Tomoya, living in the same reality? I mean, I had the feeling that Nagisa was only, like, a spirit, that she wasn't actually alive.
Thank you very much :)
And here's the answer, in spoiler. Be warned, the spoiler might just lead you directly to the final episode.
All of them happened in the past reality.
Ascaloth
2007-10-05, 22:27
Okay, I'm asking this as a piano player....
...I think you guys can already guess what I'm going to ask, right? :p
iamandragon
2007-10-05, 22:42
Okay, I'm asking this as a piano player....
I think you guys can already guess what I'm going to ask, right? :p
I was a pianist too so I can pretty much guess...here you go, A Tiny Palm (http://alphatrance.com/0engine/music/anime/get.php?file=clannad-chiisana-tenohira.pdf)
Here's a question: who here will be paying constant attention to wide screen release of CLANNAD tv? I'm not asking when it is out, but 'who' is going to care and seek the wide screen version and acquire it.
I really want to re-watch CLANNAD tv in widescreen quality too. However with my heavy schoolwork I won't have time to spend on checking out every groups periodically when they're releasing a widescreen version. So I'm simply in need of some kind people to let me know whenever they discover a widescreen release.
I'm not a talented pianist, but I can play songs by ear as well. It would be nice to have some sheets to work off of though... *hint hint*
LOL...
Pico-Score has a few sheets for some of the songs. (http://www.pico-score.com/clannad/clannad.htm)
And...I just pre-ordered the first DVD. :heh:
LolitaDecay
2007-10-06, 01:16
And...I just pre-ordered the first DVD. :heh:
O:
From where?
That's what I would like to know as well... :p
iamandragon
2007-10-06, 05:42
What's all this "dream boat" stuff?
Just watch it and remember. I can't afford to spoil anything about this at all but remember, the phatasm world is everything to CLANNAD. Watch it, bear with them and in the end they will all come back in a great way. It is not something to please inpatient viewers. (when I first played the game I hated them, but the ending which reviewed the truth change my mind completely. They are the core which keep all the lives CLANNAD in one piece)
Here's a question: who here will be paying constant attention to wide screen release of CLANNAD tv? I'm not asking when it is out, but 'who' is going to care and seek the wide screen version and acquire it.
I seriously can't wait for the 16:9 version --- its the way Kyoani originally planned this series to be in.
4:3 does not do it justice.
Nightengale
2007-10-06, 06:26
Are there any...walkthroughs for Clannad? Along with what's supposingly the best routes to follow in succession?
iamandragon
2007-10-06, 06:32
Are there any...walkthroughs for Clannad? Along with what's supposingly the best routes to follow in succession?
I have a 90 hours playing guide and a 300 hours playing guide, which one do you want?
There's no 'best routes' You'll need to go through all routes (apart from Ryou) in order to unlock the 'after story' in which there's only one route to uncover the true and final ending.
Nightengale
2007-10-06, 06:36
I have a 90 hours playing guide and a 300 hours playing guide, which one do you want?
There's no 'best routes' You'll need to go through all routes (apart from Ryou) in order to unlock the 'after story' in which there's only one route to uncover the true and final ending.
What's the difference between both? @_@
Well, as for the best routes thing, I heard someone (( Sushi? )) in this forum saying before playing 'girl C's route' before 'girl B' will make you confused on some storyline things or something like that, kinda like Tsukihime's Arc first, then Ciel thing. I know it doesn't really affect anything in the long run, but still...
O:
From where?
That's what I would like to know as well... :p
CDJapan has the Limited Edition up for preorder (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=PCBX-50971), but Amazon Japan hasn't yet updated.
iamandragon
2007-10-06, 10:47
What's the difference between both? @_@
Well, as for the best routes thing, I heard someone (( Sushi? )) in this forum saying before playing 'girl C's route' before 'girl B' will make you confused on some storyline things or something like that, kinda like Tsukihime's Arc first, then Ciel thing. I know it doesn't really affect anything in the long run, but still...
The 90 hours guide is a guide for players to collect all CG, music and contents within the shortest time. Some variations of the same stories which are not the requirement will be skipped, though.
The 'playing girl C's route before girl B' thing is said by me. It is not about who is better or not, but playing in the recommended order will give you more background information on side characters in that character's route. For example, Nagisa Tomoyo makes an appearance in Nagisa route as a side character. If you've played Tomoyo route before Nagisa route, you'll know what kind of person is Tomoyo is and will waste less time wonder on her actions. Also playing the Fuko route before the Nagisa route will produce an extra event, but that's the only case it is.
Nightengale
2007-10-06, 10:50
The 90 hours guide is a guide for players to collect all CG, music and contents within the shortest time. Some variations of the same stories which are not the requirement will be skipped, though.
The 'playing girl C's route before girl B' thing is said by me. It is not about who is better or not, but playing in the recommended order will give you more background information on side characters in that character's route. For example, Nagisa Tomoyo makes an appearance in Nagisa route as a side character. If you've played Tomoyo route before Nagisa route, you'll know what kind of person is Tomoyo is and will waste less time wonder on her actions. Also playing the Fuko route before the Nagisa route will produce an extra event, but that's the only case it is.
300 then.
Along with the recommended order, naturally. ;)
LolitaDecay
2007-10-06, 14:43
CDJapan has the Limited Edition up for preorder (http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=PCBX-50971), but Amazon Japan hasn't yet updated.
Thank you!
Are there any...walkthroughs for Clannad? Along with what's supposingly the best routes to follow in succession?
I used this as my guide
http://yuzz21.web.fc2.com/CLANNAD.html
Personally, I don't think the ordering matters too much, as long as Nagisa's route is done last (or repeated one more time before heading onto After Story using the AFTER STORYを始める前に Nagisa route). It saves time to do the similar routes together though (Kyou and Kappei's route, Tomoyo and Misae-san's route, etc.)
Also, the route flowchart (http://yuzz21.web.fc2.com/system.html) listed by Yuzu-san seems to follow a bad→good scenario trend. Kyou's route being the blandest, while Kotomi and Fuuko's route being the most powerful ones. It's probably a good idea to save the best ones for last, less dissappointment that way.
iamandragon
2007-10-07, 08:32
wow, that's one pretty walkthrough.
I got mine off kfc, and I'm still translating it(unless you can read Chinese?)
The order is important. Not only it saves time ,but sometimes playing in different orders will affact the reader's point of view when playing.(see spoiler)
For example, when playing the Tomoyo route, don't you wonder how she managed to be so popular in her route with her attitude? Sure she's got charm, but it's actually Minase who taught her that. Playing the Minase route allows you to get more insight of that. Plus, if you ignore Minase route and go straight for Tomoyo route, you'll miss a scene in which you get to collect a light.
And Tomoyo route is a must if you want to go for the Yukine route, as these routes gives two opposite insight of what is meant by delinquent. Going for Yukine route before Tomoyo would make you dislike Tomoyo slightly when you see her beat up delinquents.
And Ryou and Kyou route, although a pairing route, going for Ryou route FIRST will save you a lot of time. Ryou in Kyou's route confessed to you her selfishness, which you don't get to see in her route. And if you saw Ryou's selfishness first in Kyou route you'll find a hard time re-adjusting your heart to like Ryou in her route.
Kappei route must not be done before Ryou/Kyou route, as this will render Ryou just a passer by if you don't know Ryou enough.
Fuko route, must be follow by Koumura, or else you'll miss a scene in Nagisa route AND the after story.
Here's my recommended order:
Minase --> Tomoyo --> Yukine --> Ryou --> Kyou --> Kappei --> Mei Sunohara --> Ichinose --> Fuko --> Koumura --> Nagisa AND After Story
Kappei route is quite independent, but since his route is so close to Ryou/Kyou's route, they can be run paralle. Doing a save on the 20th and loading later will allow you to jump straight to the start of Kappei route from Ryou/Kyou route, while the memory of the previous few days are fresh in your brain so you don't need to repeat what you done the past 7 days.
Mei Sunohara's route can actually be done anytime, but since it has a lot of Sunohara(male) involved, it's best done at a later stage when you know Sunohara better. Some people put it after Yukine, as they can be run parallel like Ryou/Kyou's route. (save/load on 20th)
Some people would put Ichinose after Nagisa since Nagisa is involved in her route and the Nagisa route is the more touching than Nagisa route alone. However, Ichinose will be a complete stranger in Nagisa route if you do so. Since you've met Nagisa a few times before the Ichinose route, Nagisa is still a passer by, but at least not a complete stranger. Your choice. Ichinose route is actually quite independent like Mei Sunohara route.
Also how good a scenario is only personal view. My favourite route, after the Nagisa route, is the Kyou route. However, KEY's work are all so superb that even you don't like it, you won't be disappointed. (Tomoyo route for me, I don't like that Tomoyo, though I still enjoyed playing through her route)
Nightengale
2007-10-07, 08:38
wow, that's one detailed walkthrough.
I'm still translating mine(unless you can read Chinese?)
I can (( emphasis = can )) read Chinese, but I'd rather not to. I'm only so-so slightly better in Chinese as I am Japanese, and I'm already half-dead from reading 彩雲国物語―黄金の約束. (( SaiMono, pretty much the only light novel I'm killing myself with, since I'm too much of a stupid fanboy. ))
If houkoholic's link to the PS2 voice ~> PC was a complicated guide, I would've :eyespin:.
If it's too much trouble for you, then I don't mind. But honestly, I would be much thankful if it could be translated.
iamandragon
2007-10-07, 09:05
it;s not much of a trouble--translating happens to be my hobby
If houkoholic's link to the PS2 voice ~> PC was a complicated guide, I would've :eyespin:.
There's an english version of the PS2 → PC voice patch guide
http://www.geocities.com/sleephook/clannad/index.en.htm
chrisl456
2007-10-08, 21:25
I seriously can't wait for the 16:9 version --- its the way Kyoani originally planned this series to be in.
4:3 does not do it justice.
Anyone know why it was in 4:3? I was pretty bummed when I discovered that it was 640x480.
I think I saw somewhere that Clannad is airing on multiple different channels. Did it premier on a non-HD channel or something? KyoAni stuff deserves not just 16:9, but full 720p glory IMHO. :)
Anyone know why it was in 4:3? I was pretty bummed when I discovered that it was 640x480.
I think I saw somewhere that Clannad is airing on multiple different channels. Did it premier on a non-HD channel or something? KyoAni stuff deserves not just 16:9, but full 720p glory IMHO. :)
I can answer that for you.
BS-i initially had the rights to broadcast the show in HD 16:9 goodness. However, TBS is the parent company of BS-i and were allocated the premiere. Since TBS don't broadcast in 16:9, KyoAni had to crop the anime to fit TBS specs. I'm not sure if they screen HD either.
However, with that being said, two other channels will also be broadcasting CLANNAD in between the wait from TBS and BS-i. MBS will screen CLANNAD on 14th October at 1:55am and CBC will screen on the 18th October at 3;20am (first broadcast time - regular = 2:50am).
The thing is, MBS may screen a downscaled SD broadcast in 16:9 - if Shana II is of any indication. We shall wait to find out.
iamandragon
2007-10-09, 00:43
Anyone know why it was in 4:3? I was pretty bummed when I discovered that it was 640x480.
I think I saw somewhere that Clannad is airing on multiple different channels. Did it premier on a non-HD channel or something? KyoAni stuff deserves not just 16:9, but full 720p glory IMHO. :)
What's 720p glory?
Nightengale
2007-10-09, 00:46
What's 720p glory?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/720p
Basically, 16:9 HD goodness which is clearly non-existent in the 4:3 TBS airing of Clannad.
~~~
Here's my question, episode-1 related.
Was Akio's quote a homage to Roy Focker, or was I just reading too much into it?
iamandragon
2007-10-09, 01:34
As requested, here's the 300 hour guide translated:
The 300 hour guide is actually derived from the 90 hours guide, so I presented here first:
CLANNAD 90 hours walkthrough
90 hours is the official time for finishing the main routes, completing 100% and BGM. But experienced players might be able to do it faster.
<attention>
Do enter Sakagami Tomoyo route after Sagare Misae
<tips>
Ichinose Kotomi route is completely independent from other routes, and can be done anytime you like.
Ibuki Fuko route is independent from other routes as well, but should be completed eariler.
Miyazawa Yukine and Mei Sunohara can be played parallel. On the 20th of April, save on the first choice.
If you choose to 'help', then enter Mei Sunohara route
If not enter Miyazawa Yukine route.
Fujibayashi Ryou/Fujibayashi Kyou route and Kiiragi Kappei route can be played paralle. On the 20th of Apirl, save. On the 28th of Apirl of the twin's route, save also.
4.20
Choose 'help to enter Kiiragi Kappei route
Otherwise enter Fujibayashi Ryou/Fujibayashi Kyou route
4.28
Choose 'I like short hair' to enter Fujibayashi Ryou route
Choose 'I like long hair ' to enter Fujibayashi Kyou route
Koumura Toshio and Furukawa Nagisa's routes can be played in parallel. On the 4th of Apirl, save.
Choose 'pass the ball to me' to enter Furukawa Nagisa route
Otherwise enter Koumura Toshio route
Sagare Misae and Sakagami Tomoyo's routes can be played in parallel. On the 21st of Apirl, save.
Choose 'enter Misae's room' to enter her route.
Otherwise enter Sakagami Tomoyo's route
A total of 8 lights can be collected in the school life section. But one might disappear from making a wish for Fuko
CG/Music Mode will be unlocked after you complete one route for the first time
After Story will be unlocked after getting 8 lights and finishing Nagisa + Fuko's route. If you made a wish for Fuko then it will be unlocked with 7 lights
You only loose lights for once. Repeating the same event will not deduct anymore lights.
TIPS
On the 14th of Apirl, there 7 different speeches you can speak when you choose to record something in Sunohara's tape
On the 15th of Apirl, Sunohara Yuhei has two verisons of songs. This is determined wether you choose to record into his tape or not.
See Appendix for more....
On the beginning there is no choice. Save at the first week when Tomoya lives together with Nagisa
Choose 'reject' to continue After Story
Choose 'help' to enter week 2 of After Story
Save on the day your daughter is born.
<attention>
No choice can will appear here yet
Only when finish week one of After Story and with 13 lights will there be a choice for you. Return to this save when you've fullfilled the requirements
Choose 'don't cry for help' to continue week one of After Story
Choose 'cry for help' to enter True End
Detailed walkthrough of each routes and After Story:
The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore her
Study
To the courtyard (don't go and you'll get a different scene with Misae later)
Keep talking
Keep watching
Not interested
Concerned
Talk to Misae(*)
4.16
Forget it
No need to do so
4.17
Walk around outside
Talk to Misae(*)
4.18
Fortune tell yourself
Back to the classroom
Talk to Misae(*)
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him
Ask to come again(*)
4.21
Wake up properly
Serious(*)
Care for me(*)
Blanket smells good(*)
(End)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Keep watching(*)
I'm interested(*)
Concerned
Talk to Misae
4.16
Go(*)
Forget it
Go buy it
Let her do it alone
4.17
Go(*)
Go(*)
Go(*)
Walk around in school
Sleep
Talk to her
Talk to her
4.18
Accept(*)
Kick him back
Fortune tell Sunohara
Let her go
Empty Classroom
Keep watching
Sleep there
Leave
Help(*)
Talk to her
4.19
Tell him to give up(*)
Go home
4.20
Follow him
Leave
Won't come again
4.21
Walk up and go to school(*)
Greet her(*)
Keep waiting
It's good(*)
Eat it now
4.22
On my way home
No, that's not what I meant…(*)
Stop him(*)
4.23
Nothing useless
Pretend you just found me
Sleep
That girl wants a drama club(*)
4.24
I might just want to be with Tomoyo(*)
4.25
Prepare
4.26
Eat in canteen
5.02
Imagine yourself
5.03
Imagine
Forget
No...not like that
5.04
Say bye and leave
5.05
We can't continue like this(*)
5.06
Talk
No(*)
5.11
save here and come back if you havn't done Toshio Koumura
Kick it back(64Hit)
Help(this scene will not appear if your previous route is not Sagare Misae)(Misae's light GET)
(End，Sakagami Tomoyo's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore her
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
See her leave
4.18
Fortune tell Sunohara
Sleep there(*)
Keep talking(*)
Sleep
4.19
To old school building
To data room
4.20
Go with him
Keep watching
Refuse
Play it
Watch her leave
4.21
Walk up and go to school
4.22
Say hi to me first
Go
Ryou
4.23
Talk like $$$(can't pronunce)
No
Dont listen to phone
4.24
Don't play
Yes(*)
Yes(*)
Let her sleep on(*)
(End，Miyazawa Yukine's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say Something
4.15
Apologize(*)
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Greet old lady
Keep asking(*)
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
See her leave
4.18
Card Fortune Tell
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him
4.21
Go later
Dodge right
Leave
Tear it and throw it away
4.22
Introduce yourself first
Take it home(*)
4.23
Follow him(*)
Like a spaceman who saved earth
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Really? Can I really?(*)
4.25
Go to school gate(*)
Friends
4.26
If that is fine with you…(*)
Path split: choose one character
4.28
Act like a tragedy
Like short hair(*)
5.01
It taste good...
5.03
Watch Ryou in silence
5.04
Blue gem(*)
5.05
Lovers
Kiss(*)
(End of Ryou's route, this is a bad end)
The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
From the 28th of Apirl:
4.28
Take it school
I like long hair(*)
5.01
Taste horrible…
5.03
Practice(*)
5.04
Purple gem(*)
5.05
Lover
Kiss(*)
5.07
Dash out(*)
End, (Fujibayashi Kyou's light GET)
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4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Apologize
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Greet old lady
Keep asking
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Fortune Tell with breast
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Follow him(*)
Keep watching(*)
Help(*)
4.21
Go later(*)
Dodge right(*)
Shake him
Return it to him after finding out the address(*)
4.22
Introduce yourself first
Return Bu-tan to Kyou(*)
Don't help(*)
4.23
Pretend to be lovers at the train station
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Don't participate(*)
Introduce a place for him to live(*)
(End，Hiiragi Kappei's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore her
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Fortune yourself
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Follow him
Keep watching
Help
4.21
Walk up and go to school
4.22
Say hi first
4.23
Drink while speaking
Listen to the phone for Sunohara(*)
4.24
Agree to help(*)
Fujibayashi sisters
Kyou
Watch from afar
(End，Sunohara siblings's light GET)
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4.15
Ignore(*)
Run away from class(*)
Eat
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Go out
Not concerned
Ignore her
4.17
Run from class(*)
Go together(*)
See did she cut this book(*)
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Fortune tell Sunohara
Library(*)
Scare him
Enter the library(*)
Call her name
Can't ignore her(*)
4.19
Go home
Enter the bookstore
Walk her home
4.20
Ask to stay(*)
Read
4.21
Walk up and go to school
Say no
4.23
Enter the office
4.25
Stay here
4.29
Go out
4.30
Help Kotomi(*)
5.03
Not right now(*)
5.04
Forget(*)
5.05
Confess
5.08
Anser: Why you ask this?
5.10
Continue(*)
5.11
Comfort her 'don't give up'(*)
Continue(*)
(End，Ichinose Kotomi's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Go out
Concerned(*)
Ignore her
4.16
Forget it
Go buy it(*)
Help(*)
You can't do that
4.17
Attraction
Go find her(*)
Go to next door(*)
Talk to her(*)
4.18
Fortune Sunohara
Sieze her
Empty Classroom(*)
Keep watching(*)
Back to the classroom
Which type of guy you like?
Run away with Nagisa
4.19
Go see
4.20
Where's Sanae
Ignore him
4.21
Look outside the window(*)
Let her drink with her nose
Let Nagisa go again
Let Nagisa try once again
4.22
Slash
Discuss with Fuko
Discuss with Fujibayashi
Prank: Move Fuko somewhere else
Bring home
Don't help
4.23
No(*)
Say I love you 24 hours a day
No(*)
A change of mood(*)
Stop her(*)
Prank: Move Fuko somewhere else 2
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Stop her
Prank: Find someone to pretend to be self
Watch her(*)
4.25
Stop her
Prank: Find someone to pretend to be self 2
4.26
Ask them(*)
Keep her here
Decided to help her(*)
Make Fuko drink with her nose 2
4.27
Tell her the truth
Hold her nose
Yeah…
4.28
Bear with a fish
Let her join the discussion
Prank: Change her craving
4.29
Go with Nagisa
Prank: Change her craving 2 (Fuko master GET)
4.30
Data roomhttp://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=1191340#post1191340
Clannad - Q & A - Page 3 - AnimeSuki Forum
Squeeze her nose (Fuko ninja GET)
5.02
Find someone else
5.03
Rock
5.11
Take over(*)
Can I kiss？(*)(enter True End) OR Stay like this (*)(enter Good End)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore
Study
To courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Keep watching
Interested
Concerned
Talk to her
4.16
Go
Forget it
Go buy it(*)
Help(*)
Want to do that
4.17
Go with him
Go with him
Go with him
Insert pictures
Go look for her
Go see next doors
Talk to her
4.18
Accept
Kick back
Fortune tell Sunohara
Seize her
Empty classroom
Keep watching
Back to the classroom
Help
What type of drama is going to show?
Run away with Nagisa
4.19
Let him give up
Go see
4.20
How's Nagisa's body condition?
Go with him
Keep watching
Help
4.21
See outside window(*)
Keep waiting
Let Nagisa go again
Go in Nagisa's place
4.22
Pretend to see nothing
Steal
Discuss with Fuko
Discuss with class tutor
Wait patiently
Throw it away
Don't help4.23
No(*)
Nothing useless
No(*)
Sleep
Listen to phone
4.24
Hold her tight(*)
4.26
Get going(*)
Go find
Don't want her to join
Yes
4.27
yes
4.28
Find in new school building
Go to third floor
Explain
Stop her
4.29
(Pray for Fuko)(*)
4.30
pass to Kyou(*)
(End，Toshio Koumura's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
The '(1)' marked choices affacts what happens in the after story.
The '(2)' marked choices are essential for more characters to show up in Nagisa's graduation's after story.
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Apologize(2)
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Keep watching(2)
I'm also interested(2)
Concerned(*)
Talk to her(2)
4.16
Greet the old lady
Nothing to worry about
The girl yesterday…
Go(2)
Forget it
Help(*)
Want to do that
4.17
Follow him(2)
Follow him(2)
Follow him(2)
Insert pictures
Go find her
Go see the next door classroom
Talk to her
4.18
Accept(2)
Kick back
Card Fortune Telling
Seize her
Empty Classroom
Keep watching
Back to the classroom
Help(2)
What's that on the poster?
Run away with Nagisa
4.19
Tell him to give up
Go and see
4.20
How's Furukawa's body condition?
Follow him(1)
Keep watching(1)
Help(1)
4.21
Look outside the window(*)
Keep waiting
Negotiate for her
4.22
Talk to Tomoyo(2)
Magic
Discuss with Fuko
Discuss with the Fujibayashi sisters(2)
Wait patiently
Bring home
Don't help
4.23
No(*)
Nothing useless
No(*)
Sleep
Listen to the phone(2)
4.24
Hug her tightly(*)
4.26
Get going(*)
Wait till Monday
Yes(2)
4.27
Yes(2)
4.28
Search in the new school building(2)
Search on the second floor(2)
You can(2)
Do something stupid for the last time(2)
Stop her
4.29
(Pray for Fuko)(1)
4.30
Pass to me(*)
5.01
Present
5.02
Like(1)
5.10
Take away script
5.11
You are a great father(*)
Call out for Nagisa(*)
(End)
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I don't have a detailed walk through for the after story, but here are the choices given, so I'm translating from another place. However if you use the following walkthrough for After Story you'll have to follow MY play order(Fuko->Koumura->Nagisa) and do all the choices exactly as seen in the detailed Nagisa walkthrough above:
As usual, the '*' marked are the essential ones. The rest you can improvise.
<attention>
Only with 11 lights can you finish week two
Only with 13 lights and through week one you can enter week through 3
5.05
(top)
5.06
(top)
5.09
(top)
(top)
5.12
(top)
5.13
(top)
(top)
5.16
(top)
┃ (top)(*)
┃
┃ (top)
┃ (Furukawa Sanae's light GET)
┃
┃ (top)(*)
┃ (bottom)(*)
┃ (bottom)(*)
┃
(bototm)
(bottom)(*)
(bottom)(*)
(bottom)
(Yoshino Yusuke's light GET)
(bottom)
(bottom)
(bottom)
(top)
┃ (Okazaki Naoyuki's light GET)
┃ (top)(*)
┃ (Ibuki Fuko's light GET)
┃ (Ibuki Kouko's light GET)
┃
(End)
5.05
(top)
5.06
(top)
5.09
(bottom)
(bottom)
5.12
(top)
5.13
(top)
(top)
5.16
(top)
(bototm)(*)
(top)
(top)
(End，Furukawa Akio)
5.05
(top)
5.06
(top)
5.09
(top)
(top)
5.12
(top)
5.13
(top)
(top)
5.16
(top)
┃ (top)(*)
┃
┃ (top)
┃
┃ (top)(*)
┃ (top)(*)
┃ (bottom)(*)
┃
(top)
(bottom)(*)
(bottom)(*)
(bottom)
(middle)
(top)
(top)
(Cry out for help)(*)
(True Ending)
In Yukine's route there are 'spell games' that you can play on the 23rd and 24th of Apirl. There are many different variations to the storage curse.
Follow the following steps to get:
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Go out
Concerned(*)
4.16
Forget it
No need to do that(*)
Walk outside school
See her leave
4.18
Fortune tell yourself
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
Find some other manga
4.21
Walk up and go to school
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go(*)
Ryou
4.23
Like lovers at the train station
Try(*)
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Play(*)
Try it(*)
Furukawa…(*)
Enjoy!
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Go out
Concerned(*)
4.16
Forget it
Go buy it
Let her do it alone(*)
Walk outside school
See her leave
4.18
Fortune tell yourself
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
Read another manga
4.21
Walk up and go to school
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go(*)
Kyou
4.23
Like a spaceman who saved earth
Don't play(*)
Don't listen to phone4.24
Play(*)
Try it(*)
Furukawa…(*)
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore
Study
Ignore her
Keep watching(*)
I'm interested(*)
Ignore her
4.16
Go(*)
Forget it
4.17
Follow him(*)
Follow him(*)
Follow him(*)
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Accept(*)
Kick back
Fortune tell yourself
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
Help(*)
4.19
Tell him to give up
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
Read another manga
4.21
Wake up and go to school
Greet her
It's good
Hold it in
4.22
Silence
Trouble(*)
Go
Tomoyo
4.23
Pretend to find me first
Try it(*)
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Play(*)
Try it(*)
Tomoyo…
Enjoy!
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Apologize(*)
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Walk there
Keep asking
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Card fortune tell
Sleep in there(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
4.21
Go later
Stand and wait for it
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go
Kyou
Take it back
4.23
Follow him
Like a manga with a few volumes wasted on memories
Try it(*)
Don't listen to phone
4.24
No, no thanks(*)
Play(*)
Try it(*)
Kyou…(*)
Enjoy!
Misae has no Storage room adventure
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Talk to her(*)
4.16
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
Talk to her(*)
4.18
Fortune tell Sunohara
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to classroom
Talk to her(*)
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
Won't come again
4.21
Wake up and go to school
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go
Kyou
4.23
Like a manga with a few volumes waste on memories
try it(*)
That's it
Fuko does not have a storage room adavnture
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Forget it
4.17
Walk inside school(*)
Sleep(*)
Talk to her(*)
See her leave
4.18
Fortune tell Sunohara
Let her go
Empty Classroom(*)
Keep watching(*)
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him
4.21
Wake up and go to school
Keep waiting
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go
Kyou
Keep waiting
Throw it away
4.23
Nothing useless
Like a manga with a few volumes wasted on memories
Try it(*)
That's it
At sometimes you are prompt to read manga or play a 'doki doki high school' mini game. Here's the walkthrough for the mini game:
(Start)
┃
┣Confess to her→(Game Over)
┃
See her leave
┃
┣Confess to her→(Game Over)
┃
Watch her in silence
┃
┣Watch her leave→(Game Over)
┃
Confess to her
┃
┣Hug her→(Game Over)
┃
Shrug off her
┃
┣Run away alone→(Game Over)
┃
Run with Steve
┃
┣Leave it to Steve→(Game Over)
┃
Fight yourself
┃
┣Don't open
┃┃
┃┣Walk forward→(Game Over)
┃┃
┃┣Walk left→(The End)
┃┃
┃┗Walk right→(Game Over)
┃
┗Open
┃
┣Hug him→(Game Over)
┃
Shrug him off
┃
┣Act together→(Game Over)
┃
Shrug her off→(Finish)
……seriously, this is one hell of a screwed up story. It's so screwed up it's even funny.
Sunohara's girlfriend?
In Mei Sunohara's route you'll have to find Sunohara a girlfriend. You'll end up with Sanae in the end no matter what but here's some thing else you can do...
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Apologize(*)
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Keep watching(*)
I'm interested(*)
Concerned(*)
Ignore her
4.16
Walk
Keep asking(*)
Things in the past…
Go
Forget it
Let her do it herself(*)
4.17
Follow him(*)
Follow him(*)
Follow him(*)
Walk inside school(*)
Sleep(*)
Talk to her(*)
Watch her leave
4.18
Reject(*)
Card fortune tell
Let her go
Empty classroom(*)
Keep watching(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him
4.21
Go later
Stand still and wait
Keep waiting
4.22
Say hi first
Take it back(*)
Keep waiting
Throw it away
4.23
Nothing useless
Run away(*)
Sleep
Answer phone(*)
4.24
Accept(*)
┃
┣Fubayashi sistrs
┃ ┃
┃ ┣Older sister
┃ ┗Younger Sister
┃
Something else...
┃
┣Ask Furukawa
┃
Something else...
┃
┣Tomoyo
┃
Something else
┃
┣Fuko
┃
Something else...
┃
┣I'll be your girlfriend!
┃
Something else...
(Repeat)
……
Through out the Ibuki Fuko route you can play pranks on Fuko. But here are somethings you'll have to pay attention to:
There are some days where some prank options are unavaliable. And there they are:
4.26 Find someone to pretend to be self & Change her craving
4.28 Find someone to pretend to be self & Take Fuko somewhere else
4.29 Find someone to pretend to be self
Here are the details of what you can do in the pranks
Move Fuko somewhere else
4.24-4.26 Lv1 Guy's toilet
4.25-4.26 Lv2 Principal's Room
4.25-4.26 Lv2(*) Data room
4.29 Any Lv Akio's Room
(*)On 4.18, sleep in data room twice. That is, sleep -> talk with Yukine -> Sleep.
Change Fuko's craving
4.23-4.25 Lv1 Shoe
4.24-4.25 Lv2 Human Model
4.28 Any Lv Sunohara's face
4.29 Any Lv Slippers
Partners for 3 v 3 basketball in Nagisa/Toshio's route
You can have different partners other than Tomoyo and Kyou. Here's a detailed walkthrough for how to get each chracter:
<Attention: Fubayashi Ryou, Ibuki Yukine and Furukawa Nagisa as partner will result in aloose, giving you the Bad End>
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in old school building
Search in data room
Don't invite her
Ask Miss Misae
……
4.26
Go find someone
Let Koumuru join
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in the new school building
Search in the second floor
Think about it again
Search in new school building
Search in the third floor
Troublesome…
Don't force yourself
Search in old school building
Search in empty classroom
Think about it again
Search in old school building
Search in data room
Don't invite her
No
Let her play with Mei
……
seriously, this guy is the funniest guy I've ever seen in any galgames
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in the new school building
Search on the 2nd floor
Think bout it again
Search in the new school building
Search on the 3rd floor
But this is troublesome…
Don't force yourself
Search in old school building
Search in empty classroom
Think about it again
Search in old school building
Search in data room
Don't invite her
No
Let her play with Mei
And here for the loosing players...
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in the new school building
Search on the 3rd floor
But this is troublesome...
Please, join us
……
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in old school building
Search in the empty classroom
Yes
……
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in old school building
Ask in data room
Invite her
……
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in new school building
Search on the 2nd floor
Think about it again
Search in new school building
Search on the 3rd floor
But this is troublesome…
Don't push yourself
Search in old school building
Search in empty classroom
Think about it again
Search in old school building
Search in data room
Don't invite her
No
Let her practice
……
Repeating scenes.
Some scenes have various versions to it that you can play it again and find new items! Things include:
There are a total of 7 versions of songs you can record into Sunohara's tape in the beginning of the story! Can you get it all?
There are two versions of songs Sunohara will sing on the 15th. That depends weather you mess up his tape or not.
Complete After Story once and return to Tomoyo route. Sunohara's face will deform at some point when beaten!
In Fuko's route, do various pranks to get the title Fuko Master and eventually Fuko Ninja and you'll have Fuko appearing like a ninja when you reply Tomoyo route
To be continued...
Contents to be added:
Walkthrough for baseball route
Walkthrough for war game route
Walkthrough for bad end
Walkthrough for mysterious man
I ended up making a new version...Uguu...
Sagare Minase
Not that it matters, but it's Sagara Misae (相楽美佐枝).
iamandragon
2007-10-09, 04:22
Not that it matters, but it's Sagara Misae (相楽美佐枝).
Thanks X 100 for the correction.
Takuto19
2007-10-09, 07:02
Hmm, was wondering if theres been any confirmation on how many episodes the anime will go on for?
I liked Kanon's pace but the longer it goes on for the more i have to wait for the new season of Haruhi heh :)
Hmm, was wondering if theres been any confirmation on how many episodes the anime will go on for?
I liked Kanon's pace but the longer it goes on for the more i have to wait for the new season of Haruhi heh :)
With 8 DVDs scheduled to be released and with 3 episodes on each volume, that equates to 24 episodes.
Nightengale
2007-10-09, 09:17
As requested, here's the 300 hour guide translated:
The 300 hour guide is actually derived from the 90 hours guide, so I presented here first:
CLANNAD 90 hours walkthrough
90 hours is the official time for finishing the main routes, completing 100% and BGM. But experienced players might be able to do it faster.
<attention>
Do enter Sakagami Tomoyo route after Sagare Misae
<tip>
Ichinose Kotomi route is completely independent from other routes, and can be done anytime you like.
Ibuki Fuko route is independent from other routes as well, but should be completed eariler.
Miyazawa Yukine and Mei Sunohara can be played parallel. On the 20th of April, save on the first choice.
If you choose to 'help', then enter Mei Sunohara route
If not enter Miyazawa Yukine route.
Fujibayashi Ryou/Fujibayashi Kyou route and Kiiragi Kappei route can be played paralle. On the 20th of Apirl, save. On the 28th of Apirl of the twin's route, save also.
4.20
Choose 'help to enter Kiiragi Kappei route
Otherwise enter Fujibayashi Ryou/Fujibayashi Kyou route
4.28
Choose 'I like short hair' to enter Fujibayashi Ryou route
Choose 'I like long hair ' to enter Fujibayashi Kyou route
Koumura Toshio and Furukawa Nagisa's routes can be played in parallel. On the 4th of Apirl, save.
Choose 'pass the ball to me' to enter Furukawa Nagisa route
Otherwise enter Koumura Toshio route
Sagare Misae and Sakagami Tomoyo's routes can be played in parallel. On the 21st of Apirl, save.
Choose 'enter Misae's room' to enter her route.
Otherwise enter Sakagami Tomoyo's route
A total of 8 lights can be collected in the school life section. But one might disappear from making a wish for Fuko
CG/Music Mode will be unlocked after you complete one route for the first time
After Story will be unlocked after getting 8 lights and finishing Nagisa + Fuko's route. If you made a wish for Fuko then it will be unlocked with 7 lights
You only loose lights for once. Repeating the same event will not deduct anymore lights.
TIPS
On the 14th of Apirl, there 7 different speeches you can speak when you choose to record something in Sunohara's tape
On the 15th of Apirl, Sunohara Yuhei has two verisons of songs. This is determined wether you choose to record into his tape or not.
See Appendix for more....
On the beginning there is no choice. Save at the first week when Tomoya lives together with Nagisa
Choose 'reject' to continue After Story
Choose 'help' to enter week 2 of After Story
Save on the day your daughter is born.
<attention>
No choice can will appear here yet
Only when finish week one of After Story and with 13 lights will there be a choice for you. Return to this save when you've fullfilled the requirements
Choose 'don't cry for help' to continue week one of After Story
Choose 'cry for help' to enter True End
Detailed walkthrough of each routes:
The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore her
Study
To the courtyard
Keep talking
Keep watching
Not interested
Concerned
Talk to Misae(*)
4.16
Forget it
No need to do so
4.17
Walk around outside
Talk to Misae(*)
4.18
Fortune tell yourself
Back to the classroom
Talk to Misae(*)
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him
Ask to come again(*)
4.21
Wake up properly
Serious(*)
Care for me(*)
Blanket smells good(*)
(End)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Keep watching(*)
I'm interested(*)
Concerned
Talk to Misae
4.16
Go(*)
Forget it
Go buy it
Let her do it alone
4.17
Go(*)
Go(*)
Go(*)
Walk around in school
Sleep
Talk to her
Talk to her
4.18
Accept(*)
Kick him back
Fortune tell Sunohara
Let her go
Empty Classroom
Keep watching
Sleep there
Leave
Help(*)
Talk to her
4.19
Tell him to give up(*)
Go home
4.20
Follow him
Leave
Won't come again
4.21
Walk up and go to school(*)
Greet her(*)
Keep waiting
It's good(*)
Eat it now
4.22
On my way home
No, that's not what I meant…(*)
Stop him(*)
4.23
Nothing useless
Pretend you just found me
Sleep
That girl wants a drama club(*)
4.24
I might just want to be with Tomoyo(*)
4.25
Prepare
4.26
Eat in canteen
5.02
Imagine yourself
5.03
Imagine
Forget
No...not like that
5.04
Say bye and leave
5.05
We can't continue like this(*)
5.06
Talk
No(*)
5.11
save here and come back if you havn't done Toshio Koumura
Kick it back(64Hit)
Help(this scene will not appear if your previous route is not Sagare Misae)(Misae's light GET)
(End，Sakagami Tomoyo's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore her
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
See her leave
4.18
Fortune tell Sunohara
Sleep there(*)
Keep talking(*)
Sleep
4.19
To old school building
To data room
4.20
Go with him
Keep watching
Refuse
Play it
Watch her leave
4.21
Walk up and go to school
4.22
Say hi to me first
Go
Ryou
4.23
Talk like $$$(can't pronunce)
No
Dont listen to phone
4.24
Don't play
Yes(*)
Yes(*)
Let her sleep on(*)
(End，Miyazawa Yukine's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say Something
4.15
Apologize(*)
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Greet old lady
Keep asking(*)
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
See her leave
4.18
Card Fortune Tell
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him
4.21
Go later
Dodge right
Leave
Tear it and throw it away
4.22
Introduce yourself first
Take it home(*)
4.23
Follow him(*)
Like a spaceman who saved earth
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Really? Can I really?(*)
4.25
Go to school gate(*)
Friends
4.26
If that is fine with you…(*)
Path split: choose one character
4.28
Act like a tragedy
Like short hair(*)
5.01
It taste good...
5.03
Watch Ryou in silence
5.04
Blue gem(*)
5.05
Lovers
Kiss(*)
(End)
The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
From the 28th of Apirl:
4.28
Take it school
I like long hair(*)
5.01
Taste horrible…
5.03
Practice(*)
5.04
Purple gem(*)
5.05
Lover
Kiss(*)
5.07
Dash out(*)
(End，Fujibayashi Kyou's light GET)
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4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Apologize
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Greet old lady
Keep asking
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Fortune Tell with breast
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Follow him(*)
Keep watching(*)
Help(*)
4.21
Go later(*)
Dodge right(*)
Shake him
Return it to him after finding out the address(*)
4.22
Introduce yourself first
Return Bu-tan to Kyou(*)
Don't help(*)
4.23
Pretend to be lovers at the train station
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Don't participate(*)
Introduce a place for him to live(*)
(End，Hiiragi Kappei's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore her
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Fortune yourself
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Follow him
Keep watching
Help
4.21
Walk up and go to school
4.22
Say hi first
4.23
Drink while speaking
Listen to the phone for Sunohara(*)
4.24
Agree to help(*)
Fujibayashi sisters
Kyou
Watch from afar
(End，Sunohara siblings's light GET)
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4.15
Ignore(*)
Run away from class(*)
Eat
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Go out
Not concerned
Ignore her
4.17
Run from class(*)
Go together(*)
See did she cut this book(*)
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Fortune tell Sunohara
Library(*)
Scare him
Enter the library(*)
Call her name
Can't ignore her(*)
4.19
Go home
Enter the bookstore
Walk her home
4.20
Ask to stay(*)
Read
4.21
Walk up and go to school
Say no
4.23
Enter the office
4.25
Stay here
4.29
Go out
4.30
Help Kotomi(*)
5.03
Not right now(*)
5.04
Forget(*)
5.05
Confess
5.08
Anser: Why you ask this?
5.10
Continue(*)
5.11
Comfort her 'don't give up'(*)
Continue(*)
(End，Ichinose Kotomi's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Go out
Concerned(*)
Ignore her
4.16
Forget it
Go buy it(*)
Help(*)
You can't do that
4.17
Attraction
Go find her(*)
Go to next door(*)
Talk to her(*)
4.18
Fortune Sunohara
Sieze her
Empty Classroom(*)
Keep watching(*)
Back to the classroom
Which type of guy you like?
Run away with Nagisa
4.19
Go see
4.20
Where's Sanae
Ignore him
4.21
Look outside the window(*)
Let her drink with her nose
Let Nagisa go again
Let Nagisa try once again
4.22
Slash
Discuss with Fuko
Discuss with Fujibayashi
Prank: Move Fuko somewhere else
Bring home
Don't help
4.23
No(*)
Say I love you 24 hours a day
No(*)
A change of mood(*)
Stop her(*)
Prank: Move Fuko somewhere else 2
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Stop her
Prank: Find someone to pretend to be self
Watch her(*)
4.25
Stop her
Prank: Find someone to pretend to be self 2
4.26
Ask them(*)
Keep her here
Decided to help her(*)
Make Fuko drink with her nose 2
4.27
Tell her the truth
Hold her nose
Yeah…
4.28
Bear with a fish
Let her join the discussion
Prank: Change her craving
4.29
Go with Nagisa
Prank: Change her craving 2 (Fuko master)
4.30
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Squeeze her nose (Fuko ninja)
5.02
Find someone else
5.03
Rock
5.11
Take over(*)
Can I kiss？(*)(enter True End) OR Stay like this (*)(enter Good End)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
4.14
Record into his tape
Say something
4.15
Ignore
Study
To courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Keep watching
Interested
Concerned
Talk to her
4.16
Go
Forget it
Go buy it(*)
Help(*)
Want to do that
4.17
Go with him
Go with him
Go with him
Insert pictures
Go look for her
Go see next doors
Talk to her
4.18
Accept
Kick back
Fortune tell Sunohara
Seize her
Empty classroom
Keep watching
Back to the classroom
Help
What type of drama is going to show?
Run away with Nagisa
4.19
Let him give up
Go see
4.20
How's Nagisa's body condition?
Go with him
Keep watching
Help
4.21
See outside window(*)
Keep waiting
Let Nagisa go again
Go in Nagisa's place
4.22
Pretend to see nothing
Steal
Discuss with Fuko
Discuss with class tutor
Wait patiently
Throw it away
Don't help4.23
No(*)
Nothing useless
No(*)
Sleep
Listen to phone
4.24
Hold her tight(*)
4.26
Get going(*)
Go find
Don't want her to join
Yes
4.27
yes
4.28
Find in new school building
Go to third floor
Explain
Stop her
4.29
(Pray for Fuko)(*)
4.30
pass to Kyou(*)
(End，Toshio Koumura's light GET)
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The '*' marked choice are the essential ones. You can go for other choices in other parts for different dialogs.
The '(1)' marked choices affacts what happens in the after story.
The '(2)' marked choices are essential for more characters to show up in Nagisa's graduation's after story.
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Apologize(2)
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Keep watching(2)
I'm also interested(2)
Concerned(*)
Talk to her(2)
4.16
Greet the old lady
Nothing to worry about
The girl yesterday…
Go(2)
Forget it
Help(*)
Want to do that
4.17
Follow him(2)
Follow him(2)
Follow him(2)
Insert pictures
Go find her
Go see the next door classroom
Talk to her
4.18
Accept(2)
Kick back
Card Fortune Telling
Seize her
Empty Classroom
Keep watching
Back to the classroom
Help(2)
What's that on the poster?
Run away with Nagisa
4.19
Tell him to give up
Go and see
4.20
How's Furukawa's body condition?
Follow him(1)
Keep watching(1)
Help(1)
4.21
Look outside the window(*)
Keep waiting
Negotiate for her
4.22
Talk to Tomoyo(2)
Magic
Discuss with Fuko
Discuss with the Fujibayashi sisters(2)
Wait patiently
Bring home
Don't help
4.23
No(*)
Nothing useless
No(*)
Sleep
Listen to the phone(2)
4.24
Hug her tightly(*)
4.26
Get going(*)
Wait till Monday
Yes(2)
4.27
Yes(2)
4.28
Search in the new school building(2)
Search on the second floor(2)
You can(2)
Do something stupid for the last time(2)
Stop her
4.29
(Pray for Fuko)(1)
4.30
Pass to me(*)
5.01
Present
5.02
Like(1)
5.10
Take away script
5.11
You are a great father(*)
Call out for Nagisa(*)
(End)
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I don't have a detailed walk through for the after story, but here are the choices given, so I'm translating from another place. However if you use the following walkthrough for After Story you'll have to follow MY play order(Fuko->Koumura->Nagisa) and do all the choices exactly as seen in the detailed Nagisa walkthrough above:
As usual, the '*' marked are the essential ones. The rest you can improvise.
<attention>
Only with 11 lights can you finish week two
Only with 13 lights and through week one you can enter week through 3
5.05
(top)
5.06
(top)
5.09
(top)
(top)
5.12
(top)
5.13
(top)
(top)
5.16
(top)
┃ (top)(*)
┃
┃ (top)
┃ (Furukawa Sanae's light GET)
┃
┃ (top)(*)
┃ (bottom)(*)
┃ (bottom)(*)
┃
(bototm)
(bottom)(*)
(bottom)(*)
(bottom)
(Yoshino Yusuke's light GET)
(bottom)
(bottom)
(bottom)
(top)
┃ (Okazaki Naoyuki's light GET)
┃ (top)(*)
┃ (Ibuki Fuko's light GET)
┃ (Ibuki Kouko's light GET)
┃
(End)
5.05
(top)
5.06
(top)
5.09
(bottom)
(bottom)
5.12
(top)
5.13
(top)
(top)
5.16
(top)
(bototm)(*)
(top)
(top)
(End，Furukawa Akio)
5.05
(top)
5.06
(top)
5.09
(top)
(top)
5.12
(top)
5.13
(top)
(top)
5.16
(top)
┃ (top)(*)
┃
┃ (top)
┃
┃ (top)(*)
┃ (top)(*)
┃ (bottom)(*)
┃
(top)
(bottom)(*)
(bottom)(*)
(bottom)
(middle)
(top)
(top)
(Cry out for help)(*)
(True Ending)
In Yukine's route there are 'spell games' that you can play on the 23rd and 24th of Apirl. There are many different variations to the storage curse.
Follow the following steps to get:
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Go out
Concerned(*)
4.16
Forget it
No need to do that(*)
Walk outside school
See her leave
4.18
Fortune tell yourself
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
Find some other manga
4.21
Walk up and go to school
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go(*)
Ryou
4.23
Like lovers at the train station
Try(*)
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Play(*)
Try it(*)
Furukawa…(*)
Enjoy!
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Go out
Concerned(*)
4.16
Forget it
Go buy it
Let her do it alone(*)
Walk outside school
See her leave
4.18
Fortune tell yourself
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
Read another manga
4.21
Walk up and go to school
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go(*)
Kyou
4.23
Like a spaceman who saved earth
Don't play(*)
Don't listen to phone4.24
Play(*)
Try it(*)
Furukawa…(*)
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore
Study
Ignore her
Keep watching(*)
I'm interested(*)
Ignore her
4.16
Go(*)
Forget it
4.17
Follow him(*)
Follow him(*)
Follow him(*)
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Accept(*)
Kick back
Fortune tell yourself
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
Help(*)
4.19
Tell him to give up
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
Read another manga
4.21
Wake up and go to school
Greet her
It's good
Hold it in
4.22
Silence
Trouble(*)
Go
Tomoyo
4.23
Pretend to find me first
Try it(*)
Don't listen to phone
4.24
Play(*)
Try it(*)
Tomoyo…
Enjoy!
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Apologize(*)
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Walk there
Keep asking
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
Watch her leave
4.18
Card fortune tell
Sleep in there(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
4.21
Go later
Stand and wait for it
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go
Kyou
Take it back
4.23
Follow him
Like a manga with a few volumes wasted on memories
Try it(*)
Don't listen to phone
4.24
No, no thanks(*)
Play(*)
Try it(*)
Kyou…(*)
Enjoy!
Sagare has no Storage room adventure
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Talk to her(*)
4.16
Forget it
4.17
Walk outside school
Talk to her(*)
4.18
Fortune tell Sunohara
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to classroom
Talk to her(*)
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him(*)
Won't come again
4.21
Wake up and go to school
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go
Kyou
4.23
Like a manga with a few volumes waste on memories
try it(*)
That's it
Fuko does not have a storage room adavnture
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Ignore her
Study
Ignore her
Go out
Ignore her
4.16
Forget it
4.17
Walk inside school(*)
Sleep(*)
Talk to her(*)
See her leave
4.18
Fortune tell Sunohara
Let her go
Empty Classroom(*)
Keep watching(*)
Sleep inside(*)
Keep talking(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him
4.21
Wake up and go to school
Keep waiting
4.22
Pretend to find me first
Go
Kyou
Keep waiting
Throw it away
4.23
Nothing useless
Like a manga with a few volumes wasted on memories
Try it(*)
That's it
At sometimes you are prompt to read manga or play a 'doki doki high school' mini game. Here's the walkthrough for the mini game:
(Start)
┃
┣Confess to her→(Game Over)
┃
See her leave
┃
┣Confess to her→(Game Over)
┃
Watch her in silence
┃
┣Watch her leave→(Game Over)
┃
Confess to her
┃
┣Hug her→(Game Over)
┃
Shrug off her
┃
┣Run away alone→(Game Over)
┃
Run with Steve
┃
┣Leave it to Steve→(Game Over)
┃
Fight yourself
┃
┣Don't open
┃┃
┃┣Walk forward→(Game Over)
┃┃
┃┣Walk left→(The End)
┃┃
┃┗Walk right→(Game Over)
┃
┗Open
┃
┣Hug him→(Game Over)
┃
Shrug him off
┃
┣Act together→(Game Over)
┃
Shrug her off→(Finish)
……seriously, this is one hell of a screwed up story. It's so screwed up it's even funny.
Sunohara's girlfriend?
In Mei Sunohara's route you'll have to find Sunohara a girlfriend. You'll end up with Sanae in the end no matter what but here's some thing else you can do...
4.14
Forget it
4.15
Apologize(*)
Study
To the courtyard(*)
Keep talking(*)
Keep watching(*)
I'm interested(*)
Concerned(*)
Ignore her
4.16
Walk
Keep asking(*)
Things in the past…
Go
Forget it
Let her do it herself(*)
4.17
Follow him(*)
Follow him(*)
Follow him(*)
Walk inside school(*)
Sleep(*)
Talk to her(*)
Watch her leave
4.18
Reject(*)
Card fortune tell
Let her go
Empty classroom(*)
Keep watching(*)
Back to the classroom
4.19
Go home
4.20
Ignore him
4.21
Go later
Stand still and wait
Keep waiting
4.22
Say hi first
Take it back(*)
Keep waiting
Throw it away
4.23
Nothing useless
Run away(*)
Sleep
Answer phone(*)
4.24
Accept(*)
┃
┣Fubayashi sistrs
┃ ┃
┃ ┣Older sister
┃ ┗Younger Sister
┃
Something else...
┃
┣Ask Furukawa
┃
Something else...
┃
┣Tomoyo
┃
Something else
┃
┣Fuko
┃
Something else...
┃
┣I'll be your girlfriend!
┃
Something else...
(Repeat)
……
Through out the Ibuki Fuko route you can play pranks on Fuko. But here are somethings you'll have to pay attention to:
There are some days where some prank options are unavaliable. And there they are:
4.26 Find someone to pretend to be self & Change her craving
4.28 Find someone to pretend to be self & Take Fuko somewhere else
4.29 Find someone to pretend to be self
Here are the details of what you can do in the pranks
Move Fuko somewhere else
4.24-4.26 Lv1 Guy's toilet
4.25-4.26 Lv2 Principal's Room
4.25-4.26 Lv2(*) Data room
4.29 Any Lv Akio's Room
(*)On 4.18, sleep in data room twice. That is, sleep -> talk with Yukine -> Sleep.
Change Fuko's craving
4.23-4.25 Lv1 Shoe
4.24-4.25 Lv2 Human Model
4.28 Any Lv Sunohara's face
4.29 Any Lv Slippers
Partners for 3 v 3 basketball in Nagisa/Toshio's route
You can have different partners other than Tomoyo and Kyou. Here's a detailed walkthrough for how to get each chracter:
<Attention: Fubayashi Ryou, Ibuki Yukine and Furukawa Nagisa as partner will result in aloose, giving you the Bad End>
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in old school building
Search in data room
Don't invite her
Ask Miss Misae
……
4.26
Go find someone
Let Koumuru join
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in the new school building
Search in the second floor
Think about it again
Search in new school building
Search in the third floor
Troublesome…
Don't force yourself
Search in old school building
Search in empty classroom
Think about it again
Search in old school building
Search in data room
Don't invite her
No
Let her play with Mei
……
seriously, this guy is the hottest guy I've ever seen in any galgames
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in the new school building
Search on the 2nd floor
Think bout it again
Search in the new school building
Search on the 3rd floor
But this is troublesome…
Don't force yourself
Search in old school building
Search in empty classroom
Think about it again
Search in old school building
Search in data room
Don't invite her
No
Let her play with Mei
And here for the loosing players...
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in the new school building
Search on the 3rd floor
But this is troublesome...
Please, join us
……
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in old school building
Search in the empty classroom
Yes
……
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in old school building
Ask in data room
Invite her
……
4.26
Wait till Monday
Yes
4.27
Yes
4.28
Search in new school building
Search on the 2nd floor
Think about it again
Search in new school building
Search on the 3rd floor
But this is troublesome…
Don't push yourself
Search in old school building
Search in empty classroom
Think about it again
Search in old school building
Search in data room
Don't invite her
No
Let her practice
……
I ended up making a new version...Uguu...
:bow::bow::bow:
谢谢你，大翻译龙.
Takuto19
2007-10-09, 09:56
With 8 DVDs scheduled to be released and with 3 episodes on each volume, that equates to 24 episodes.
Thanks alot boggart, appreciate it :)
iamandragon
2007-10-09, 17:26
:bow::bow::bow:
谢谢你，大翻译龙.
Big translation dragon?
Thank you. Unfortunately, dragon in my user name is not pronounced as dragon and therefore cannot be translated this way.
Takuto19
2007-10-12, 13:51
Is the anime planning on going through the story of each of the 5 girls (i think its 5) with Clannad (same way they did Kanon) showing Tomoya's relationship with them all?
Havn't played the game but i'm sure thats how it works.
If it's similar to Kanon then that'll be great heh.
iamandragon
2007-10-12, 16:42
Is the anime planning on going through the story of each of the 5 girls (i think its 5) with Clannad (same way they did Kanon) showing Tomoya's relationship with them all?
Havn't played the game but i'm sure thats how it works.
If it's similar to Kanon then that'll be great heh.
Who knows? But from what we've seen, it's likely that KyoAni is going to do something similar to Kanon 2006, where they walk the main route and do different things to have classic events of other characters to barge in the main route.
Episode two is a good proove, and they doubele...triple...quart--, it's more than 8 times than in the original story! (*hint Tomoyo)
Unlike Kanon, CLANNAD is kind of special in the sense that they MUST do everyone's scenario (even the subcharacter's scenarios) in order for the game's ultimate message to make any sense. Everyone's scenario, in a way, plays a role in constructing what will become the true ending, which I'm pretty sure is the ending that Kyoani is aiming for.
Of course, they can botch the thing and just go for the true ending without 100% completion, but that hasn't been Kyoani's style up to this point, and I doubt they'll start now (I hope).
iamandragon
2007-10-13, 23:46
Well it's KyoAni, there's nothing they can't do.
What I think is they're going to put a fast forward scene with every other character's scenario flying pass Tomoya's scene with the lights all gathering at him in AS.
Damn I chopped so many words in order to avoid spoiler, and now the above statement looks like a shounen manga event...those who havn't played the game try not to think too shounen...
Crystal Requiem
2007-10-16, 18:12
Two questions:
1. Where can I download.... A "simple" version of this game for the computer? I mean, I don't want to go out and buy, or order anything, and I'm not asking for any particular links, I just would like to know if that's possible. If not, atleast tell me there's an easy to understand version where I can set it up and play it, and get any english translated text/voices/easy walkthroughs without a 300 hour guide.
2. Is it really worth it? I've gotten it before but I kept encountering problems and finally it just bored me to tears after I got it fixed. If it's really not all that, can I get an estimation on how many CGs there are(since that's what I usually focus on)? I'm pretty sure there are 174 in total, or so I've managed to get my hands on in one place.
1. Where can I download.... A "simple" version of this game for the computer? I mean, I don't want to go out and buy, or order anything, and I'm not asking for any particular links, I just would like to know if that's possible. If not, atleast tell me there's an easy to understand version where I can set it up and play it, and get any english translated text/voices/easy walkthroughs without a 300 hour guide.
If I remember correctly, there _might_ be a trial version available for download somewhere on the interweb. I know that Key released a trial for the last three of their VNs (planetarian, Tomoyo After and Little Busters!), but I am not 100% if there was one for CLANNAD. In the end, I highly doubt there's an English translation patch for a trial version of this anyway.
2. Is it really worth it? I've gotten it before but I kept encountering problems and finally it just bored me to tears after I got it fixed. If it's really not all that, can I get an estimation on how many CGs there are(since that's what I usually focus on)? I'm pretty sure there are 174 in total, or so I've managed to get my hands on in one place.
Hmmm... it seems you might be getting the VN for the wrong reasons if all you want are the CGs. And since you seem to say that you have all of them already, I don't see what your point is.
iamandragon
2007-10-16, 20:59
Visual Novels--it's either a hit or a miss. If you don't like it, don't force yourself to play it. You can always find and download CG/music packs if you only want them. There is no simple version of CLANNAD. Unlike the other KEY games, every story of CLANNAD converges into one huge story, so I definitely don't recommend anyone to 'try' visual novel games with CLANNAD. There are shorter, free visual novels out there. If all you want is to read the script, you can go here for an English version: http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Clannad
Crystal Requiem
2007-10-17, 18:19
Hmmm... it seems you might be getting the VN for the wrong reasons if all you want are the CGs. And since you seem to say that you have all of them already, I don't see what your point is.
All I was asking is if it was enjoyable enough to acctually get the game. That, and I don't know exactly how many CGs there are, since it seems like one of those games that is constantly getting extra patches added onto it like School Days.
Thank you for the information.
iamandragon
2007-10-17, 21:18
The patches are the translation patches. The original game was released perfect in structure on the very first release. Please believe this: KEY never releases products with quality lower than first-class.
ok I got a question what options do we have to choose in the game to get a good ending when you first start the game?
and what path am I going this is where Im at?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Ray447/Tomo.jpg
iamandragon
2007-10-20, 03:04
ok I got a question what options do we have to choose in the game to get a good ending when you first start the game?
and what path am I going this is where Im at?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Ray447/Tomo.jpg
You just started, and havn't entered any paths. If you've entered one of the main character's path (Nagisa, Tomoyo, Fuko, Kotomi, Yukine, Kyou), you'll notice that when you save, instead of recording the date and time of save, it'll be the name of that character
Click back a few pages to read my my post about the 300 and 90 hours walkthrough--there contains a detailed walkthrough for each character. Patience, for CLANNAD is a very long game.
i hav one small question. i havent heard of clannad b4 it was announced to be animated on tv. it seemed interesting to watch.
my question is about that robot? can someone explain it and that girl without spoiling too much for me? ty for those who'll explain it
bullrogg
2007-10-20, 11:01
i think this may have been answered before..but why is it called clannad?
iamandragon
2007-10-20, 12:32
i hav one small question. i havent heard of clannad b4 it was announced to be animated on tv. it seemed interesting to watch.
my question is about that robot? can someone explain it and that girl without spoiling too much for me? ty for those who'll explain it
The answer is no. Any slight information on the phantasm world will result in major spoiler. You can pm me if you want to be spoiled, but that will be the point of no-return for your life.
As for the name CLANNAD, it means 'family' in Irish. Dig around in this forum, I've seen a pretty good explanation around here...
chrisl456
2007-10-20, 13:39
I can answer that for you.
BS-i initially had the rights to broadcast the show in HD 16:9 goodness. However, TBS is the parent company of BS-i and were allocated the premiere. Since TBS don't broadcast in 16:9, KyoAni had to crop the anime to fit TBS specs. I'm not sure if they screen HD either.
However, with that being said, two other channels will also be broadcasting CLANNAD in between the wait from TBS and BS-i. MBS will screen CLANNAD on 14th October at 1:55am and CBC will screen on the 18th October at 3;20am (first broadcast time - regular = 2:50am).
The thing is, MBS may screen a downscaled SD broadcast in 16:9 - if Shana II is of any indication. We shall wait to find out.
Any update on 16:9 versions of Clannad? Unless I missed it, all the releases so far are 4:3 SD. :(
bullrogg
2007-10-20, 13:40
As for the name CLANNAD, it means 'family' in Irish. Dig around in this forum, I've seen a pretty good explanation around here...
oookay..specifically this thread or..like in the other ones?
iamandragon
2007-10-20, 13:53
oookay..specifically this thread or..like in the other ones?
Not in this thread, or else I'd have pointed you towards it...Look for those with many pages...
bullrogg
2007-10-20, 14:05
^thx...
the quest begins....
The answer is no. Any slight information on the phantasm world will result in major spoiler. You can pm me if you want to be spoiled, but that will be the point of no-return for your life.
ty, i'll pass on the spoiler then. ill wait for further eps to confuse me even further until the questions is answered in an episode.
Hey I think I messed up since Im on 4/22 and didn't get to any route?
At 4/21 I didn't get to choose ?
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/Ray447/dfgdfgdfgfd.jpg
iamandragon
2007-10-20, 17:43
Yup. You messed up. There's a curical choice on the 21st. Go back a few pages and follow the walkthrough.
Any update on 16:9 versions of Clannad? Unless I missed it, all the releases so far are 4:3 SD. :(
OCTOBER 26TH @ 1AM, BS-i. ;)
well I chose every options in 21 and I still don't get a route so I messed up somewhere in the begining?
For these game related questions, probably try asking them in the Game Discussion thread as there'll be less risk of accidentally leaking some spoiler information for the rest of us. ;)
iamandragon
2007-10-20, 19:46
well I chose every options in 21 and I still don't get a route so I messed up somewhere in the begining?
Hang on hang on! You won't get the Nagisa route just that quick on the 21st! You still have a long way to go before you can enter her route! And since this is just a visual novel, save frequently and do your own choices at your first try. If you insist, look at the walkthrough then.
I've been wondering this for sometime now, though does anyone know what city CLANNAD is supposed to be set, or based on?
I mean, i've come across real life settings for both AIR and Kanon in the past, and was wondering if it was the same for this time around.
I've been wondering this for sometime now, though does anyone know what city CLANNAD is supposed to be set, or based on?
I mean, i've come across real life settings for both AIR and Kanon in the past, and was wondering if it was the same for this time around.
I've also seen the real life setting for planetarian as well, but haven't come across the CLANNAD settings.
I've also seen the real life setting for planetarian as well, but haven't come across the CLANNAD settings.
If you don't mind, could you send me information in a pm about the setting for Planetarian please. :)
I've been wondering this for sometime now, though does anyone know what city CLANNAD is supposed to be set, or based on?
Clannad : http://www.wa.commufa.jp/~swallow/clannad.html
Places in the 3rd - 5th pictures have not appeared in the anime (as of episode 3) yet.
Planetarian : http://www.wa.commufa.jp/~swallow/planetarian.html
Bonus material : The site of the Fuuko - Wakayama PR Poster (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs320&d=07416&f=clannad2078.jpg):
http://misuzu.livedoor.biz/archives/50732083.html (the link may be not safe for your mental health.....)
wow clannad was based on a real city awesome
Dissidia
2007-10-22, 12:48
OCTOBER 26TH @ 1AM, BS-i. ;)
YAY!!! Can't wait for it :D
Clannad : http://www.wa.commufa.jp/~swallow/clannad.html
Places in the 3rd - 5th pictures have not appeared in the anime (as of episode 3) yet.
I should have known nani would come to my rescue. :)
Thanks a lot for the link.
iamandragon
2007-10-23, 06:53
Does anyone know the Romanji name of threse script writer of CLANNAD? I only know Jun Maeda. (I've recently found an interview of him and want to translate)
EDI: Found out about Suzumoto Yuichi, and this person called 'Kai', but his full name...?
Nightengale
2007-10-23, 08:21
Does anyone know the Romanji name of threse script writer of CLANNAD? I only know Jun Maeda. (I've recently found an interview of him and want to translate)
EDI: Found out about Suzumoto Yuichi, and this person called 'Kai', but his full name...?
I don't think it's public. I'm not sure it's even a real name. Even ja.wiki for CLANNAD list him as only 魁, next to Jun and Suzumoto.
Does anyone know the Romanji name of threse script writer of CLANNAD? I only know Jun Maeda. (I've recently found an interview of him and want to translate)
EDI: Found out about Suzumoto Yuichi, and this person called 'Kai', but his full name...?
I'm with Nightengale on this one. He's not the only one under VisualArt's that operates by a single name, either, so it's likely a pseudonym used to credit his work for companies that produce "adult content".
iamandragon
2007-10-23, 10:14
All right, I'll release the translation with Kai as 'Kai'...
Here's the first part:
Thank you for the three script writers in participating in this special interview with VFB. We hope everyone will understand more about each character’s story. Also, the mysterious phantasm world is finally going to be unveiled here?
Introduction of the script writers:
Jun Maeda: Director of CLANNAD. In charge of Nagisa, Tomoyo, Fuko and various character’s script. (seems like the main story of Yukine’s script is done by him). Also he is involved with music composing. The lyrics of the ED of CLANNAD “a little hand” is written by him.
Kai： The script writer of the stories of the Fujibayashi twins and Kappei. All of the above mentioned scripts has undergone major changes, and Kai even had ideas of himself running off on a bike. Also in charge of part of Yukine’s script.
(Now we know why CLANNAD took 4 years to be completed. Maeda must have been chasing you on the bike and caught him in Hokkaido)
Suzumoto Yuichi： Joined KEY after being touched by KANON. Started working since AIR. In charge of the Kotomi route’s story and has won many praises with his precise calculations and fabulous performance. Also won many awards in the past as a novelist.
===========================Our objective is to make an interesting game==========================
--Let’s start with the production of CLANNAD, from the planning stage.
Maeda: After finishing AIR, I’ve finally felt I have done something I want. But because there is a focus on the story, it became harder to substitute myself in the story. That’s why I felt that I have to write a work that the majority can accept. To make it simply, a game just for fun. The concept of CLANNAD was born not long after finishing AIR. (Maeda’s conclusion on AIR seems to be quite precise. A different case for us, but in Japan, AIR wasn’t as popular as Kanon because of this. Of course the theme of CLANNAD is very good, as we can feel that CLANNAD was already accepted by the majority since the beginning. We can also have speculations that CLANNAD was already planned to be a happy ending, with the After Story included.
--The concept of “a tale of people and the town”, was it decided from the very beginning?
Maeda: Yes. From the beginning we have determined that instead of having a large world like AIR, we have decided to put the story in a small world such a small town to go write in depth about the people and the town, also the relationship between people.
(Actually, CLANNAD is much more complex in terms of time and human relation. The large cast is to emphasis on the love of the town, and were to avoid telling the tale of a few people.
--Was the core of ‘collection lights’ determined from the planning stages?
Maeda: Yes. But it was initially a more complex system, where the lights are in forms which the players can utilize at freely.
Kai: But this made the difficulty of the game much harder, and did hamper on the development of the story, and thus was modified into what we see now.
(This is an important message. We can at least deduce the following: 1. Long ago the concept of one light creating miracle wasn’t the original idea of the creators. I myself believe it was the wishes of townspeople. This we discuss later. 2. Why the original idea of made the difficulty of the game harder? Probably it is because of Fuko’s case. But this system shouldn’t be too useful if that’s the case, as there is only two places we can use the lights and there is no need to invent a system just for that. Afterall, AVG should be more focused on the story.
--How long was the script in the beginning?
Maeda: In the beginning we were already prepared for a long script because of the large cast, but we weren’t expecting such a huge script. How many times longer was the final draft compared with the original?
U1: I’m afraid twice.
Maeda: The Kotomi route and Fujibayashi twin’s route written by Kai and U1 was originally 250000 bytes, but it turned out to be 60000 bytes in the end. (smiles)
U1: Yeah, this forced the side routes to be shortened.
(These people have so much spirit! But a long script have its own pros and cons. The pros is it is easy to substitute into the story, but then it scares lazy people off and slows down the progress. I’m suspect poor Yukine became a side character because of this… Even though maeda did put her in Another sotry, but from the OP of KyoAni she’s just a passer by :cries: )
To be continued...
All right, I'll release the translation with Kai as 'Kai'...
I think his full name is 雲龍寺魁 (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/%B1%C0%CE%B6%BB%FB%B3%A1) :)
It's really a pity that most of Key's experienced staff had left over the past few years.....:(
iamandragon
2007-10-23, 11:05
I think his full name is 雲龍寺魁 (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/keyword/%B1%C0%CE%B6%BB%FB%B3%A1) :)
It's really a pity that most of Key's experienced staff had left over the past few years.....:(
Thanks. Can you please put his name in romanji out?
And here is part two: more about Nagisa
==========The long long slope in the beginning is the metaphor for the tale of their growth==========
--Even though there’s such a large cast, but Nagisa took a pretty large portion of the story.
Maeda: About this point, we had a long discussion in the company.
U1: Because we were worried that if we focus on only one person, would it turn out to be another AIR?
Maeda: Even the president told me ‘Try as much as possible to lower the difference between the length of the scripts’ But in the end we still have a huge gap (laughes)
Maeda: But, we didn’t this to lower the rating of our work. But in the end it worked out fine, but we are still suspected to be ignoring the president.
(The fact is that the structure is well presented. The appearance of After Story not only took good care of everything, but it also took care of the main character. But hey Naoki, it seems like you’re having a hard time taking care of your kohais…Careful with your daughter, don’t let Maeda take her, there’s no mistaking Maeda is a lolicon ORZ)
--Including After Story, in Nagisa’s story there are a lot of key works like ‘marriage’ ‘give birth’-do you feel any difficulties when writing this?
Maeda: No. Because we always base our works on a heavy title. But we were worried that it might change the theme of a ‘school romance game’ into something else.
(Is that changing the theme? Maeda don’t you know how many dark school games call themselves ‘school love romance’? If it wasn’t because of this we won’t be liking CLANNAD right? Also I think Maeda you don’t have difficulties writing is because you dream of marrying Nagisa every night OTL)
--We heard that you are worried about After Story might cover up the impression of viewers of the main story.
Maeda: Yes. Actually AIR is this kind of work. In order to prevent this, we put careful thinking into how it is plausible for the players to have happiness in the school life chapter. Luckily the school life chapter was completed perfectly in both length and story, so I think we have reached our target.
(Even though I agreed that after completing the game I only thought of After Story, but like Maeda said, I never did forget about the main chapter. Maybe…that’s target reached…yup. But Maeda can’t you foresee the effect of your works? You should be aware of the effect of the After Story before the game went on the market.
--In Nagisa’s story, her growth is noticeable
Maeda: Even though in the beginning gof the story, she is really a weak girl. So I always ask myself is she fit to be the heroin. But in the end she became a character with quite some charm.
--Especially in the scene where Ushio was born, Nagisa and the main character have their stands completely reversed.
Maeda: It was quite hard to write that script. She was weak and refused to go to the hospital and wishes to give birth at home. This is very easy for the players to misinterpret her ‘strong will’ as ‘stubborn’. In order to deliver her feelings to the layers, I have tried fixing the script over and over again, and now I feel at rest.
(We can say that since Nagisa became pregnant, the memories of Okazaki’s family began. To give birth at home is the last blessing Nagisa gave to her daughter.)
--The main theme of Nagisa’s story, it is ‘growth’ isn’t it?
Maeda: Yes. But it was not only Nagisa who’s only growing. Actually it also includes the growth of Tomoya. Just like when they walked up the long, long slope. The beginning of the story on the slope is the portrayal of their life.
(Those who loved CLANNAD should have memorized that line in the game. As the most common but also the most romantic meet in the history GALGAME, take a look back at the back of the two of them, people should feel their own growth)
--When going out with Nagisa, everyone have quite some impression with the Furukawa family.
Maeda: About this, we were thinking of it in the beginning. To make it simple, we were trying to create a ‘perfect’ family.
Kai: Until now in all of the past KEY works, every family have someone missing
Maeda: So this time, we have a family that is happy everytime prepared.
(About the family curse in KEY, this isn’t their trandmark. Actually, it is the trademark of most AVT. From the age of One, the main character was hit by a horrible curse, and his sister became boss even before showing up. And in Kanon, it spread to the female’s family. Even the happy Nayuki family was a single parent family without explaination. And in AIR, every single family have something. Little Buster have everyone killed right in the beginning. But this time CLANNAD had quite a lot of happy family: the the Furukawa family, the Okazaki family, the Yoshino family, the Sunohara family. Even though there are some single parent family, there was a few great fathers born. CLANNAD—family—quite fit the title!)
--About the Nagisa route, the appearance of the OP was quite an element.
Maeda: Even though it was something we thought up a long time ago, but honestly the feedback wasn’t that good. Big failure(weak smile)
U1: “We want to see the OP!” was a overwhelming request.
Kai: And the customer service had many complaints about “I can’t see the OP!”
Maeda: I wanted to give the players a shock of an ‘ever changing place’, and even now I feel like putting the OP in ‘this is a story that happened in a winter’
U1: But I think those who understand what it means will understand, naturally, us.
Maeda: But about this, it was something we have to reflect upon after finishing CLANNAD. We went a bit too far.
(Actually the appearance of the OP in the PC version has its meaning. After the story of a winter story, the screen slowly turns out and flashes the OP out. This makes the player feels to be taken into the phantasm world. And in the miracle in the end a fast forward effect was used to compare it with the real world. Also the OP gave the players a hint about ‘this story is a story over a long time’. Of courses, this is something that we know after knowing the OP only appears there. When the guide wasn’t released, complaints about ‘Can’t see OP!’ is common. The PS2 changed it, but I feel the original OP has more feeling to it.
That's it for today. I have my school work to do.
Thanks. Can you please put his name in romanji out?
Un Ryuu Ji Kai (うんりゅうじかい)...... on second though, I think it will be simpler just to call him Kai......:heh:
Good luck with the translation, you still have the remaining 90% to go. :)
iamandragon
2007-10-23, 12:03
Un Ryuu Ji Kai (うんりゅうじかい)...... on second though, I think it will be simpler just to call him Kai......:heh:
Good luck with the translation, you still have the remaining 90% to go. :)
Dammit, someone help me.
iamandragon
2007-10-24, 10:25
Part 3: More about the Fujibayashi twins
====================The basic principle of Kyou and Ryou’s story is Anti-KEY?===================
（Kai, are you really not a secret agent from AGE or an assassin from STACK?）
--Next let’s talk about someone other than Nagisa. First is Kyou and Ryou. Their stories are one that splits mid-way.
Kai: Actually in the beginning, there wasn’t a Ryou route to begin with. But instead, in Kyou’s route, there will be a choice where you must choose weather to treat Kyou gently or not.
Maeda: if you only go after Kyou, you will definitely get a BAD ENDING. All the test players in Kyou’s route fell in this trap.
Kai: And after that, someone mentioned that ‘the balance of the game is not right!’ And as a countermeasure, we prepared a route for Ryou. Actually Ryou’s route has been a trouble all the time until completion.
(And the result is Kai getting addicted and bringing out Kappei, who even gives out a light. This branch is quite unexpected. But as there is twins, it’s not uncommon for a two routes in one—there are many similar cases. But hey, is there such a thing as in ‘balance’ in AVG?)
--The two of them always appear in the other character’s route. Are they actually so easy to make use of?
U1: Yeah. Especially Kyou, as a ‘girl who can always approach as a friend’, this setting is extremely convenient.
Maeda: Sometimes she says things that’s hard for Tomoya, and sometimes she helps other girls in Tomoya’s place. She is a very important person in many scenes.
--Please introduce us the concept of Kyou and Ryou’s script.
Kai: Now that you ask of us, I can’t seem to have any ideas…
Maeda: It's ‘Anti-KEY’ isn’t it?(smiles)
Kai: Ahh, even I wasn’t really thinking of Anti-KEY, I have determined to not to add any sci-fi elements in it. No one dies, and no one gets hurt. It seems like everyone is bound to get hurt in KEY’s past works(laughs)
(A sci-fi background has always been a tradition of KEY. But what differs them is that KEY is not a company famous for their sci-fi. The setting is solely for the purpose to actualize emotions that real-life stories can’t. Of course there are companies famous for using very down-to-earth settings. But saying Kyou and Ryou is Anti-KEY is appropriate. Not only they don’t carry the sorrow-ness of KEY, even their story is a bit plain. But I believe there won’t be many who are unhappy with this route. And why, it might just be because of in the mood of CLANNAD, even a plain story will sooth others. And I probably won’t find a friend as great as Kyou.)
--Also I have a question that I definitely want to ask. Why is Kyou’s pet a boar?
Kai: Even though it was decided in the beginning, the form of Kyou’s pet was determined in the very end. And in the After Story, isn’t it meaningful for those who see a boar that grows as time pass?
U1: But, is it okay to keep a boar as pet?
Kai: Normally I don’t think it is possible.
(-v-b But why a boar? But lucky it wasn’t a Maeda who decides, or it will have to be a cat! Maeda is a neko-con!)
iamandragon
2007-10-25, 10:04
Part 4: More about Tomoyo
====================Tomoyo After, in good condition====================
--Tomoyo is a strong person in terms of both physically and mentally. In some ways, she and Nagis are girls on two opposite poles.
Maeda: Tomoyo, is a character created completely to my own liking. She is very independent, and a person who can complete perfectly everything on her own. But I have long wanted to create a character who gets blinded by love.
U1: She really has the side that ignores her surrounding once in love.
--Think about it, Tomoyo is a rare route where there are a lot of sharp acts included in it.
Maede: Actually even after finishing writing Tomoyo route I myself thought even those over-the-edge acts are very beautiful. But when the game goes on the shelf, there are many different kinds of critics. (:cries: )
Kai: To break up without much effort, and to re-unite without much effort, this kind of main character does make everybody uneasy.
Maeda: But if the main character works very hard, then it will become a very normal story. I think it is the main character’s slackness in school life that makes such a beautiful life.
U1: Though who doesn’t substitute themselves into the story when reading, can you feel the fun in this story? And in reverse, those who substitute themselves into the story when reading, don’t you get bothered by the main character’s slackness?
Maeda: Hey, If I substitute myself in I will feel good.(everyone laughs)
Maeda: Yeah. I think many those who felt resonance in Tomoyo’s route do often find within themselves part that looks similar to Tomoya. Some really one sided part isn’t it? (smiles)
--Talk about the characteristic of Tomoyo’s route, there are a lot of fun moments such as ‘Sunohara combo’ and ‘Fuko, appearance!’
Maeda: About the ‘Sunohara’, it was intended to be made into an action mini-game where the players have to time their clicks that allows the players to experience a feeling of their hands sweating from it. But in the end it wasn’t feasible due to programming reasons. But something like kicking Sunohara was something that wasn’t allowed in the past works of KEY do to the mood.
--‘As long as it is interesting then everything is okay, this concept is first projected in in Tomoyo’s route.
Maeda: Yes.
--About Tomoyo After?
Maeda: Yes. Like mentioned just now. Even though the main character got Tomoyo without much effort received much critics, but this ending also implies that ‘Tomoya will work hard from now on’. So to go in detail the life after that is also one of my desire. But purely liking Tomoyo is also a great reason for me to write about her alone.(smiles)
Kinny Riddle
2007-10-25, 23:39
i think this may have been answered before..but why is it called clannad?
Scenario writer Maeda Jun once explained that the name is inspired by the Irish band of the same name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clannad (for the band)
The original Clannad band stands for "Clann-As-Dobhar" (Family from Dore).
So the name of the game also uses the same abbreviation, only this time it's "Clann-As-Dango" (Family of Dango, AKA Dango Daikazoku).
iamandragon
2007-10-26, 18:29
More about Kotomi:
====================A deep meaning is within the phrase “The world is beautiful”===================
--Let’s talk about Kotomi’s route. How was her route born?
U1: Actually her story existed long ago. It’s more like choosing a character to fit into the story.
--In her route, Nagisa, Kyou and Ryou joined in, it feels very lively.
U1: I wanted to do this since the beginning. In the draw backs of AIR, the one I am most concerned about is “the story became a tale of the two and all the side characters are left aside”. And for this drawback, my own method of solving it is to have everyone join in. I wanted to make the side-characters important even in the end. And finally, it’s a story of these side-characters saving the main character.
--In the process of creating Kotomi’s route, is there anything that you have to pay attention to?
U1: I always think, the ‘world’ is something that is made up of ‘everybody. I did put a lot of mind into creating a world that combines many living organisms, including humans and many others.
--This thought is actually quite closely related with that ‘briefcase’. Similarly, Kotomi’s partent’s last work left us with quite a deep impression.
U1: Thank you. It is no exaggeration that Kotomi route is there to explain the phrase ‘the world is beautifl’. Everything I wanted to express in her script is all summarized in this phrase.
Sorry, not feeling well today.
I have a question, it's a bit weird and senseless, but I'm curious: Why Ryou isn't shown at the OP? I can see Nagisa, Fuko, Kotomi, Kyou and Tomoyo, but not Ryou; It's becouse she has no route/history back, or beacouse KyoAni forgot?
I have a question, it's a bit weird and senseless, but I'm curious: Why Ryou isn't shown at the OP? I can see Nagisa, Fuko, Kotomi, Kyou and Tomoyo, but not Ryou; It's becouse she has no route/history back, or beacouse KyoAni forgot?
She was included in the VN's opening, but I think it's because KyoAni will probably leave her as a secondary character in their adaptation of the story, whereas the others will play a bigger role.
Klashikari
2007-10-26, 19:25
Well, considering the cover of the game, but also the game opening (she is shown AFTER Yukine), it is clear Ryou is considered as a "secondary" character.
Hmm, I see. Poor Ryou...
Well, thanks for answering.
iamandragon
2007-10-27, 04:45
Ryou's quite luckily actually. In the very beginning, she was never intended to have a story.
iamandragon
2007-10-27, 05:11
More about Fuko
===============This is a character opposite from the original concept?===============
--Let’s talk about Fuko. How was this lively character born?
Maeda: Actually my original idea was to give Fuko an image of a very reliable big sister.
--That’s opposite of what we have now?
Maeda: Yes. When I got the graphic design of Fuko, it turned out to look very cute. And in the end in order to co-operate with the graphic design, I tried giving Fuko a setting—a quiet image. But when I tried to write something I can’t find any feeling and it turned out to be a boring story. After that, basing on the objective of ‘making a fun game’, I decided to throw away this setting and start over from scratch.
--Fuko’s sister, the centre of her script, was her created after the new setting?
Maeda: No. Fuko working hard in order to give her sister blessing was a setting that was decided from the very beginning. But before the change of the settings, the story was quite boring.
--Was the craving of wooden stars decided during the stage of character setting?
Maeda: Even before that. But “why craving star?” was something even I don’t know.
U1: I think it should be “why wooding star?”
Maeda: I think it was to show the clumsy and stubborn side of Fuko.
Kai: Now that you mentioned it, in the original character design, her hand was covered in bandages
Maeda: Yeah yeah. Even though it is a way to show her clumsiness, but it looked too painful, so when we put her art on the official website we decided to take away the bandages.
--Like different characters, the game game Fuko two different endings. Why is this?
Maeda: On the view point of the game maer, I think “friend” is a suitable ending for them, so I wrote the story according to this concept. But then this is a “school romance gamee”, so I considered shall I make a romance ending? And in the end I added an alternative ending.
--Please talk about the concept of Fuko’s script
Maeda: I think half of it is “leftover thoughts”. In the end even though Fuko disappeared in everyone’s memory, and Fuko herself disappeared, but her thoughts remained. And that’s why in the end Fuko can appear again and to give her sister the blessings. And for the other half, perhaps this story is really lively. (smiles)
--In Fuko’s route there are a lot of pranks?
Maeda: Ahh. This is something I like a lot. It even gave a feeling that her story is there for the pranks.
--The game alters the actions of the pranks according to the date. Sometimes we feel like it is quite an unnecessary measure.
Kai: That’s why you will have to check all the pranks. And those game testers did have a hard time on it.
Maeda: I think there should still be parts where players haven’t seen. Please every keep trying.
eMpTy265
2007-10-30, 12:37
iamandragon, I hope you don't mind my budding into your translation efforts....
***
Disclaimer: I am only performing a chinese > english translation of the interviews, the original japanese > chinese translation was performed by KeyFC. All credits for the original translation go to them.
Since I only translated from Chinese -> English, expect a loss of quality...
Anyways...
***
Part 7 - Misae Sagara
=== Misae Sagara - On the brink of being buried, a miraculous last minute revival ===
-- Now, after talking about the main characters, let's move onto our secondary characters. To start off, let's talk about Sagara Misae
U1: In the initial stages, the thought "If Sunohara was the only one in the dorm he'd be pretty lonely, how about we add a pretty female dorm manager?" popped up.
Maeda: Though we were considering the removal of her scenario throughout the development process.
-- eh? how come?
Maeda: Misae's scenario was originally U1's, but since Kotomi's scenario was giving him a hard time I took Misae from him. Unfortunately I couldn't come up with much of a story either.
Kai: He (Maeda) even told the production crew that "even though I introduced her in the HP, I can't think of a story for her"
Maeda: At that time, I watched a particular anime, and realized that I could make a character that likes to take care of others. Using that as a starting point, I was finally able to complete a complete story.
-- Halfway through Misae's route, we're brought back to Misae's past. This really left an impression.
Maeda: To be honest, the decision was made because I felt that there wasn't any development available between Misae and Tomoya, so I used a flashback to escape from the issue.
However, upon entering the flashback, I was able to connect Tomoyo to Misae through the usage of 'former student council president'. Furthermore, I was also able to develop the relationship between Yuusuke and Ibuko-sensei. As a result, this flashback broadened the horizons of the CLANNAD world.
-- In Misae's route, the story ended without solidifying Tomoya's relationship with Misae. Is there a meaning to this?
Maeda: It is true that there was no closure on Tomoya's relationship with Misae in her route. However, instead we have Tomoya seeing Misae's past through the eyes of Shima the cat (spirit). That is to say, Shima has accepted Tomoya and is willing to leave Misae in Tomoya's care. In a way, Misae's conclusion is similar to Tomoyo's, where the true relationship of the couple has yet to begin.
I opted to use Tomoya as the main character's name (for many reasons)
If there are translation errors, please PM me and I'll fix them ASAP
iamandragon
2007-10-30, 13:46
Yes...many thanks if you can help...period is killing me, so I'm taking a break for these few days. If you can do Yukine and Sunohara for me for the next two days as well, and I can continue the rest.
By the way, 志麻 in Romanji is Shima.
P.S. I also got my copy off kfc
eMpTy265
2007-10-30, 22:52
=== Miyazawa Yukine - Voted by the scriptwriters as the No.1 unfortunate character ===
-- Let's talk about the creation of Miyazawa Yukine's creation process
Maede: She's probably the most unfortunate character within CLANNAD, since her script was being constantly shafted from one scriptwriter to another...
Kai: When we were at the initial character setting, we decided to make a character that everyone loves.
Maede: We really wanted to make her one of the female leads, but unfortunately we didn't meet our expectations.
-- So what was the original character setting for Yukine?
U1: Have it this way, it was a completely different setting from what it became. However Jun stole it from me before I was able to get started...
Maede: Yukine's "Holy Mary of delinquents" setting was established long ago, but the story wasn't even started. At that time, I was obsessed with the idea of "making a touching story". So, I started writing a dark story where Tomoya and Sunohara gets involved with Yukine's life, revealing a tragic tale of Yukine's past. Unfortunately I lost my drive halfway, and couldn't find a way to end the scenario. Finally I got Kai to finish of where I left off... it was a lot of trouble indeed.
Kai: However, Yukine's 'magical ritual / (curse)' scenario was really interesting wasn't it?
Maede: I found it very interesting as well. During my role as a game tester, I couldn't help but get the "Who is it this time" feeling. (LOL) Originally I wanted to increase the material in this part, but the head of game testing would complain about the lack of testing time so we gave up.
iamandragon
2007-11-02, 13:19
It seems like kfc has been shutdown by the goverment...stupid Chinese goverments officials...well that being said, the interview translation will probably be halted on part 8 until we find another copy of the Chinese translation...
It seems like kfc has been shutdown by the goverment...stupid Chinese goverments officials...well that being said, the interview translation will probably be halted on part 8 until we find another copy of the Chinese translation...
Hmm...the forum is still up though
iamandragon
2007-11-02, 20:43
Hmm...the forum is still up though
It's been re-built, but the old posts are all gone.
eMpTy265
2007-11-03, 01:05
I'll reserve a space for sunohara... but his part is soooo long.... I'll post it once I finish it.
BTW, for those that want to view the original KFC files: (since their site is/was down)
http://rapidshare.com/files/67697478/kfc.zip.html
All ownership rights belong to the poster @ KFC...
eMpTy265
2007-11-03, 01:07
=== Hiragi Kappei: The character to return from the dead===
-- Now let's talk about Kappei, his encounter conditions are as hard as those hidden characters.
Maeda: Heh... at the beginning he was more hidden than the hidden characters.
Kai: In other words, full completion was required before you could access his route, definitely harder than any hidden character.
-- For him to be set at a position granting a light orb, what is the reason behind it?
Kai: Since CLANNAD is about family, we will encounter many 'kinds' of families in the game. After playing Kappei's route, we can understand how Kappei's family is different -
he was abandoned by his original family, but in return he started a new family with Ryou.
Maeda: Originally we thought about putting Kappei's story as an interlude in the AFTER portion of the story. However, we realized that completing Kappei's route would not be compatible with Nagisa's AFTER story, and as a result Kappei's story became what is it now.
Kai: Due to that particular influence, we were forced to end Kappei's story in the school section of CLANNAD. Subsequently we relocated all the AFTER portions of Kappei's route into the school section as well, and thus resulting in a rather rushed scenario. To be honest, I was wanting to make a story where Tomoya has to deal with a friend passing away.
-- ?! So in the original setting, Kappei was supposed to die?
Kai: Kappei was supposed to be the only character that couldn't be revived.
Maeda: However, in the light of Nagisa's and Ushio's tragedy, Kappei's permanent death will raise problems - that is "despite the existence of light orbs, why would Kappei still die?". To remove this unnatural contradiction in CLANNAD, Kappei's scenario was modified to become what it is.
Kai: I was notified of the change shortly before the end of the year.... Kappei's route kept on getting changed, it really gave me a hard time... :(
eMpTy265
2007-11-03, 01:27
The last part of the school section, our well loved Komura-sensei...
=== Toshio Komura: His secret for his popularity is? ===
-- In the school section, Komura-sensei was also given the responsibility of a light orb...
Maeda: This time in CLANNAD, I wanted to write about everyone, including the adults. Even though some players would prefer to skip these scenes and go to collect the girl's CG's.
Kai: But judging from the fan's response, Komura seems to be pretty popular.
Maeda: I wonder why that is so? He didn't have such a long route either...
U1: Probably it's because of how this route revived many memories in the player's mind. Especially due to the fact that many people have encountered a memorable teacher that he/she had learned a great deal from.
I've heard that it's a difficult thing to thank your teachers for their efforts, yet Tomoya and Sunohara actually walked up to Komura to thank him. That part is probably a bit over exaggerated.
(Thoughts: The whole thanking the teacher issue is more significant in Asian society, where the relationship between student and teacher is more formal and distant. Unlike some western societies where the student and teachers can be 'friends' outside of school, Asian societies usually have a 'class difference' between students and teachers. That's probably why this route has more effect on players in Asian societies.)
iamandragon
2007-11-03, 13:16
Oh neat, luckily our eMpTy265 saved a copy of the topic! Thank you!
CrisisDarkerXIV
2007-11-04, 21:21
Uh, can someone explain to me about the robot and the girl in the beginning of most of the episodes? Is the robot supposed to be Tomoya or something?
C&P from post #77
The answer is no. Any slight information on the phantasm world will result in major spoiler. You can pm me if you want to be spoiled, but that will be the point of no-return for your life.
Scientific studies say that searching for your answer in the previous posts before making a new one is also equivalent to 20% of your daily requirement of Vitamin E!
iamandragon
2007-11-05, 03:53
It's just as ProtoMan says. Feel free to pm me, I'm more than happy to spoil anyone if there is anyone who's happy about being spoiled.
GoldAlchemist
2007-11-06, 00:47
Does anyone know if KyoAni originally animate Clannad in HD format or not?
Some of you mention about possible HD broadcast later, but is it going to be crop from 4:3 or is it going to be the original? More importantly, when is the HD version going to come out?
I've watched a couple episodes so far. If the HD version is going to come out soon, i'll hold back. I couldn't tell what, but i've a feeling that the picture doesn't show right in the current 4:3 broadcast.
iamandragon
2007-11-06, 08:35
Does anyone know if KyoAni originally animate Clannad in HD format or not?
Some of you mention about possible HD broadcast later, but is it going to be crop from 4:3 or is it going to be the original? More importantly, when is the HD version going to come out?
I've watched a couple episodes so far. If the HD version is going to come out soon, i'll hold back. I couldn't tell what, but i've a feeling that the picture doesn't show right in the current 4:3 broadcast.
It should be on the first page of this FAQ that the HD release is displayed. If not the second page.
HD of episode 2 is already out.
GoldAlchemist
2007-11-08, 04:00
It should be on the first page of this FAQ that the HD release is displayed. If not the second page.
HD of episode 2 is already out.
Thanks, sorry that i didn't notice it earlier. I'm going to check it out soon.
Hi guys,
I was just wondering if it's possible to get the entire game dialogue(basically all the words that come out in the box) in it's original Japanese form?
I've got the game but translating the kanji using SME drawing pad gets tiresome.
Asking for links to the game download is illegal I know but I already have the game but just need the dialogues to make translation easier.... I'm not too sure of the legalities involved in that.
So.... if this isn't illegal that is, then any kind directions to such material is much appreciated.
iamandragon
2007-11-09, 08:37
Hi guys,
I was just wondering if it's possible to get the entire game dialogue(basically all the words that come out in the box) in it's original Japanese form?
I've got the game but translating the kanji using SME drawing pad gets tiresome.
Asking for links to the game download is illegal I know but I already have the game but just need the dialogues to make translation easier.... I'm not too sure of the legalities involved in that.
So.... if this isn't illegal that is, then any kind directions to such material is much appreciated.
There's a link in here:
http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Clannad
Look for the file 'Story content files (UPDATED 2/13/2007) (1.00 MB)'
Ohh nice, this will speed my reading process up by quite a bit.
Thanks a lot iamandragon.
Is anyone doing a Wide Screen release outside of Sprocket and co.? A couple of subbers are putting out 1024x768 but they don't appear to be the wide-screen version.
(sorry, I just like seeing the whole screen, so to speak)
iamandragon
2007-11-11, 05:03
Is anyone doing a Wide Screen release outside of Sprocket and co.? A couple of subbers are putting out 1024x768 but they don't appear to be the wide-screen version.
(sorry, I just like seeing the whole screen, so to speak)
The answer is yes. Question answered : P
Please note that talks on fansub groups are dis-allowed so I can't tell you who. But make a search for CLANNAD on anidb.net you'll probably get some information there. (or even faster, just mail me and I can tell you in secret)
relentlessflame
2007-11-11, 13:19
Please note that talks on fansub groups are dis-allowed so I can't tell you who. But make a search for CLANNAD on anidb.net you'll probably get some information there. (or even faster, just mail me and I can tell you in secret)No... the series isn't licensed, and it isn't produced by MFI, so we're allowed to talk about fansub groups and fansubs. If it's listed on the AnimeSuki site, we can talk about it. However, even if it were licensed/MFI, I don't think that telling people where to search or offering an answer by PM would solve the problem. If it were against the rules, those would be too... :heh:
Anyway, to answer Vexx's question: yes, SS-Eclipse is also doing an Widescreen version (both 704x400 XviD and 1024x576 H.264), and a.f.k's release is Widescreen to begin with. All listed on the series page (http://www.animesuki.com/series.php/976.html).
Is anyone doing a Wide Screen release outside of Sprocket and co.? A couple of subbers are putting out 1024x768 but they don't appear to be the wide-screen version.
(sorry, I just like seeing the whole screen, so to speak)
A little rundown of the widescreen Clannad releases for those following along:
SS-Eclipse:
- 1024x576 h264 softsub MKV and 704x400 XviD hardsub AVI
- Releases so far have appeared between Saturday and Sunday afternoon, American time.
TWH/Sprocket
- 1024x576 h264 softsub MKV and 704x400 XviD hardsub AVI
- The softsub still has the non-commercial release and game project notifications hardsubbed at the very beginning of each episode.
- Even in the softsub, credit translations are hardsubbed in English over a clean version of the OP and ED.
- Releases so far have appeared Sunday afternoon, American time.
a.f.k.
- 704x400 XviD hardsub AVI
- Credit translations are hardsubbed in English over a clean version of the OP and ED.
- Releases so far whenever they feel like. Gotta problem with that? Edit: Looking back, it looks like they've been releasing between Saturday and Sunday afternoon--yes, American time--too.
Personally, I'm following the TWH/Sprocket releases. In my opinion, they absolutely have the best subs thus far out of the regularly releasing groups that use softsubs. I would severely prefer the original credits and for the opening notes to be soft-subbed, but thus far their subtitles have been superior enough to overcome my aversion to those. I try to keep subtitles turned off after a first viewing, but I'd also rather not froth at the mouth upon seeing needlessly strange translations.
IRJustman
2007-11-12, 02:41
It should be on the first page of this FAQ that the HD release is displayed. If not the second page.
HD of episode 2 is already out.
Actually, from what has been said elsewhere, the widescreen version of the series is actually NOT HD, but have been upscaled from an SD original. So while the picture quality is still pretty decent, it's not on par with actual HD in terms of detail level and crispness.
--Ian.
iamandragon
2007-11-12, 09:34
Actually, from what has been said elsewhere, the widescreen version of the series is actually NOT HD, but have been upscaled from an SD original. So while the picture quality is still pretty decent, it's not on par with actual HD in terms of detail level and crispness.
--Ian.
Oh, I thought HD means widescreen? So what does HD and SD means?
velocity7
2007-11-12, 10:40
Well, there's your Wikipedia articles if you want, but SD generally refers to 480i/p while HD refers to the 720p and 1080i/p standards. It's not clear whether or not CLANNAD was animated in HD or not, but at the moment, the current airing uses SD and has an upscale that BS-i uses to maintain an "HD" broadcast, albeit not native.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-definition_television
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television
iamandragon
2007-11-12, 11:20
Actually, from what has been said elsewhere, the widescreen version of the series is actually NOT HD, but have been upscaled from an SD original. So while the picture quality is still pretty decent, it's not on par with actual HD in terms of detail level and crispness.
--Ian.
Well, there's your Wikipedia articles if you want, but SD generally refers to 480i/p while HD refers to the 720p and 1080i/p standards. It's not clear whether or not CLANNAD was animated in HD or not, but at the moment, the current airing uses SD and has an upscale that BS-i uses to maintain an "HD" broadcast, albeit not native.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard-definition_television
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television
Dizzy dizzy dizzy. I'm really no good when it comes to computers...
velocity7
2007-11-12, 12:35
...I would severely prefer the original credits and for the opening notes to be soft-subbed, but thus far their subtitles have been superior enough to overcome my aversion to those.
Well, half the reason why the opening notes are hard-subbed is because I don't like the idea of pirates taking the episode, burning it onto DVD and selling it on the market or something. This deters that idea and forces them to use other subs, if any at all. ;)
Also, we use a specific font that was used for the game on the non-credit OP/ED. And with the majority of fonts, particularly obscure ones as this one, there are copyright issues that could come up.
Mind you guys, I do plan on re-using this font for the game translation on specific scenes, so look forward to that. ;)
Dizzy dizzy dizzy. I'm really no good when it comes to computers...
In short... standard definition broadcasts can be widescreen, too, and the sad truth is that many HD broadcasts are just upscaled versions of widescreen standard definition broadcasts.
If you have any questions about how that works or the tech involved, drop me a PM. :)
Well, half the reason why the opening notes are hard-subbed is because I don't like the idea of pirates taking the episode, burning it onto DVD and selling it on the market or something. This deters that idea and forces them to use other subs, if any at all. ;)
Also, we use a specific font that was used for the game on the non-credit OP/ED. And with the majority of fonts, particularly obscure ones as this one, there are copyright issues that could come up.
Mind you guys, I do plan on re-using this font for the game translation on specific scenes, so look forward to that. ;)
I absolutely understand your reasoning, and I figured that was probably why. Please don't think that me saying something is not to my personal taste means I'm complaining, because I'm not. :D
I do think the OP and ED look great with that font, actually. I'm just one of the weird ones that likes the original credits, but I'll get over myself. The great job that's been done on the anime subs has gives me a tremendous amount of confidence in the upcoming release of the game translation. I wish I could do more to help, but I'm afraid of helping proof/edit, for fear of spoilers. :heh: I figure there will be more opportunity to help out later, though (Linux port, etc.).
iamandragon
2007-11-12, 18:06
Well, half the reason why the opening notes are hard-subbed is because I don't like the idea of pirates taking the episode, burning it onto DVD and selling it on the market or something. This deters that idea and forces them to use other subs, if any at all. ;)
Also, we use a specific font that was used for the game on the non-credit OP/ED. And with the majority of fonts, particularly obscure ones as this one, there are copyright issues that could come up.
Mind you guys, I do plan on re-using this font for the game translation on specific scenes, so look forward to that. ;)
That's just dirty, selling subs to others. I've heard sometimes even the official companies does that? (heard that a.f.k. subs are always the victim...no?)
By the way again, what are hard subs? If there are hard subs, are there long subs?
That's just dirty, selling subs to others. I've heard sometimes even the official companies does that? (heard that a.f.k. subs are always the victim...no?)
By the way again, what are hard subs? If there are hard subs, are there long subs?
Yeah, selling fansubs is where the practice goes from "harmless gray area" to "wrong". At that point, it becomes outright theft. I've seen bootlegs for sale before, but never identified resold fansubs... but since I've never watched a bootleg DVD, I really wouldn't know what groups are the culprits.
I suppose it's better for my blood pressure that I've never had the opportunity to confront any one for it. :heh:
As for hard subs and soft subs:
Hard subs (as in "hard-coded") are where the subtitles are encoded as part of the video itself. They're "always on", but it has the advantages of the subtitles being viewable on more systems and allowing the subbers greater control over the final appearance.
Soft subs, on the other hand, have the subtitle data separate from the video, so not only can they be turned off and on, but they can be changed more easily. Different players have different levels of support for the various subtitling formats, though, which makes compatibility hard. People with slow CPUs also sometimes have problems with the extra load of overlaying the subtitles onto the video.
SnakeLegend
2007-11-17, 16:22
Whoa talking about videos now @_@
Can someone tell me about
Why is:
1: Heroine's weak?
2: The lil' girl who likes starfish, why is she going to 'disappear'? So if she returns later will she still regain the memories of meeting the group?
3:I heard about the After episodes, are they any related?
iamandragon
2007-11-17, 17:07
Whoa talking about videos now @_@
Can someone tell me about
Why is:
1: Heroine's weak?
2: The lil' girl who likes starfish, why is she going to 'disappear'? So if she returns later will she still regain the memories of meeting the group?
3:I heard about the After episodes, are they any related?
Unfortunately, you've only managed to spot the unimportant parts, there's no need to put the answers in spoiler tags. Here's the answers.
1. Because that's the setting
2. You're asking the right question in the reverse direction. . The correct way of asking is 'why is she appearing?' and 'would the OTHERS still regain...'
3. There are no After episodes. Related topic: After Story. If that's your question, it is very important then. PM me again for the HEAVY spoiler.
Ascaloth
2007-11-17, 19:50
Something I've been thinking about;
Why does Tomoya have no qualms addressing Kyou by the more intimate form of her given name, but addresses Ryou in the more polite form of "Fujibayashi"? It doesn't look like there's a particular difference between how Tomoya views either of the sisters...
CrowKenobi
2007-11-17, 23:56
Something I've been thinking about;
Why does Tomoya have no qualms addressing Kyou by the more intimate form of her given name, but addresses Ryou in the more polite form of "Fujibayashi"? It doesn't look like there's a particular difference between how Tomoya views either of the sisters...Except Ryou wouldn't pound him for some perceived slight. :heh:
Anyway, I think that perhaps since Ryou is class rep Tomoya shows a little deference... then again Kyou might have an "opinion" on that and also probably doesn't give a wit how she's addressed, either. :D (from one who isn't familiar with the game) ;)
:cool:
SnakeLegend
2007-11-18, 00:23
Lol why didn't the Fujibayashi sisters just take the initiative to go out with him XD
dgreater1
2007-11-18, 00:39
Something I've been thinking about;
Why does Tomoya have no qualms addressing Kyou by the more intimate form of her given name, but addresses Ryou in the more polite form of "Fujibayashi"? It doesn't look like there's a particular difference between how Tomoya views either of the sisters...
From what I know, Asian people tend to address the other party through their family name unless they both have an agreement that they could call each other through their first name or the other party tells its alright to call them through such method, specially in Schools (remember, always happens most at school). Heck, even my close friends from school calls me by my Family Name (since I didn't really tell them to call me through my nick name or first name) :heh::heh::heh:
SnakeLegend
2007-11-18, 01:09
Well more like for the japanese only.
They mostly use the 'surname' of the family to address the others as a sign of formality and respect.
Unless you've know the person far enough to address him/her as (Last Name)-chan/kun/tan/chun.
For my family, it's a formality to call others we knew by surnames, adding a Mr/Mrs/Miss, unless we asked for permission to use their mid or last name as addressee.
Formality, I guess.
eMpTy265
2007-11-18, 01:29
Something I've been thinking about;
Why does Tomoya have no qualms addressing Kyou by the more intimate form of her given name, but addresses Ryou in the more polite form of "Fujibayashi"? It doesn't look like there's a particular difference between how Tomoya views either of the sisters...
The answer of that lies in the serialized 'another episode' short stories, namely Kyou's short story depicting her 2nd year of school being in Tomoya's class.
In the story, Kyou tells Tomoya to refer to her as Kyou as opposed to Fujibayashi, since she has a twin sister (Ryou). Simply put, it's just her way of interacting with the guys, and it forms her outgoing personality.
So while Ryou didn't meet Tomoya (officially) until third year(?), Kyou's known Tomoya for quite a while.
(Of course, there's the story about how Ryou met Tomoya, and that's pretty cute also)
***
BTW, I apologize for the delay for Sunohara's interview file... been having issues in RL as of late. I'll try to get it done soon.
As empty stated, the naming conventions are derived from second year familiarity. Unfortunately, the anime does not state this, mainly because it is smaller information. It is also not story significant, so stating the 2nd year familiarity is merely implied, though from the anime alone there's nothing directly stating this.
The other evidence you can notice from this is also Sunohara familiarity. However, based on the scenes you see Sunohara and Kyou, it doesn't depict the idea of previously being classmates at all. Not to mention I don't recall she specifically saying Youhei (though she does/would normally).
Come to think of it, did the anime specifically state they're twins? They made it extremely obvious with the grade year and all (and similar look/height/dress-style), but unless they stated it specifically, you could have the indirect misconception that it's elder and younger sister simply because the characters are clearly formatted in that manner, rather than specifically twins (especially when in at least Japan, despite being twins, you still use elder and younger notation).
And of course, when the two sisters refer to each other normally, they obviously don't use the word "twin" on reference (it's either older sister, younger sister, or Ryou). I recall a friend asked this, so it's possible the anime didn't actually say they're twins (and I have no recollection of the specific statement at the moment, especially when so far the Fujibayashi sisters are rather minour currently).
Come to think of it, a lot of details are truncated. But on the anime alone, you notice that Tomoya actually calls quite a number of girls by first name (and funny since the anime displays his familiarity with other girls, but doesn't necessarily use name calling.) Well, Fujibayashi is the obvious case of no first name usage. And then you have Furukawa which is majority last name based (and then you have Miyazawa, whose frequency is not high enough to really matter on naming). Unfortunately the basis for the familiarity for many of the girls is currently rather slim (anyone not named Ibuki or Furukawa, and even then, it's still slim)
Wow, come to think of it, there's quite a bit of detachment. No wonder even the Fujibayashi twin name calling can be something of wonder.
Not to forget the *other* format of distinguishing (aside from first/last name and hamster/gorilla) hasn't been utilized yet, probably because the current state of the anime isn't undergoing Fujibayashi emphasis. Though, visually it is obvious, so it's not like lacking such statement would do anything bad.
Well, I still find the chronology of the anime weird, even if I completely ignore the game. (Like sure, many of the characters were introduced, but the impact of relevance of a select few doesn't have much basis currently at all. But oh well, I won't rant of anything.)
Though it is entirely possible that the anime might never mention the second year thing. In the game it was just "she was a classmate of mine in second year." (hm oh wait, did they mention that? I really don't remember!) Well, it's not story changing, it's just a previous history notation to pre-establish character to character familiarity. (if it wasn't obvious already, Tomoya seems to "meet" most of the girls, so only a select few are known beforehand, such as Misae, and that's due to Sunohara familiarity.)
Hm I went off tangent, oh well.
iamandragon
2007-11-18, 08:08
Something I've been thinking about;
Why does Tomoya have no qualms addressing Kyou by the more intimate form of her given name, but addresses Ryou in the more polite form of "Fujibayashi"? It doesn't look like there's a particular difference between how Tomoya views either of the sisters...
Tomoya knew Kyou from a long time ago. And they were in the same class in the previous year so they got friendly enough.
From what I know, Asian people tend to address the other party through their family name unless they both have an agreement that they could call each other through their first name or the other party tells its alright to call them through such method, specially in Schools (remember, always happens most at school). Heck, even my close friends from school calls me by my Family Name (since I didn't really tell them to call me through my nick name or first name) :heh::heh::heh:
Only for Japanese I think? In China people call people by their full name(family name AND first name), and if they're friendly enough they only call them by their name. Even more friendly people we add 'xiao' before their name in some cases., that's an equivalent to -chan in Japanese.
To amoirsp: How do you get the 'another story'? Is it in CLANNAD the game? Or do you have to buy a seperate CD for that?
dgreater1
2007-11-18, 08:26
Only for Japanese I think? In China people call people by their full name(family name AND first name), and if they're friendly enough they only call them by their name. Even more friendly people we add 'xiao' before their name in some cases., that's an equivalent to -chan in Japanese.
Make that two then, Philippines... but like I said, in here, it only happens most of the time in school (particularly universities). But I'm not denying it doesn't happen outside the school, because classmates meets outside as well. This kind of address probably happens because the teacher always address the students via their family name :3
Tomoya knew Kyou from a long time ago. And they were in the same class in the previous year so they got friendly enough.
Only for Japanese I think? In China people call people by their full name(family name AND first name), and if they're friendly enough they only call them by their name. Even more friendly people we add 'xiao' before their name in some cases., that's an equivalent to -chan in Japanese.
To amoirsp: How do you get the 'another story'? Is it in CLANNAD the game? Or do you have to buy a seperate CD for that?
1) I don't have another story, I only heard of it. Though the way empty described it would sound like a component I would expect from such a ... book? I thought it was like a novel or something, so I don't even know if it's comprised of pictures or text, but one could easily guess something such as second year familiarity would likely be depicted in such a source.
2) It's not in the game. The game vaguely mentions it. I just like the Kyou second year familiarity because in terms of "past history prior to setting of game" or "girl character of familiarity", Kyou would be in that setting best. In Clannad, Kyou is a favourite character in terms of ... daily occurrences? Like in absolutely normal settings (which is why in the anime, a friend liked the Fujibayashi sisters comparatively, due to the normalcy. This is aka, good support characters.)
3) No idea if it's a CD. I would love to read about the contents of it though.
Since the whole Kyou familiarity is already incorporated and isn't drama correlated, this isn't spoiler. I just like this portion particularly, since I think Kyou is the best incorporated character (meaning she's included in some events, but not necessarily a primary character, since her comedy and support rates are better balanced than other characters.). Though, this might just be what people call tsundere favouritism.
I wouldn't be surprised if I went to Taiwan some summer later, saw clannad on TV, and hear something along the lines of "small apricot". Lol, Tomoya would be "peng ye", hahahaha.
This is a Seinen? That's it, I'm marrying a japanese guy, lol!
Do alot of guys like this show? It is a smart and funny show so I don't see why they wouldn't. I couldn't get my brothers interested though, they like the "hack and slash" stuff.
iamandragon
2007-11-30, 10:58
This is a Seinen? That's it, I'm marrying a japanese guy, lol!
Do alot of guys like this show? It is a smart and funny show so I don't see why they wouldn't. I couldn't get my brothers interested though, they like the "hack and slash" stuff.
Japanese girls are very nice but the guys are the complete opposite. I won't marry one if I am you.
And I know...guys are all just like that...I don't see how shows like bl**ch and ***dam are interesting--the first 10 episodes or so are okay but it just gets repetitive and frames re-used over and over again: boring.
Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy action shows like Full Metal Panic every once in a while but at least the main characters are fighting with a reasonable enough reason.
P.S. I'm making my brother watch CLANNAD and if he ever sound one complain I am going to put him through some punishment, hee hee hee...
I wouldn't exactly say it's Seinen. Well, maybe the game, but I would definitely think the anime is toned down in that regard (unless Kyoani goes completely unrestrictive, and at least they've used some components so far). But then again, the other demographic possibilities would be less accurate (it's more seinen than shounen, shoujo, kodomo, or josei).
Maybe I find it slightly ironic because it's all ages. The game was all ages, and Kyoani all ages'd anything key. Though it's more like it's between seinen and all ages, as there are things far more all ages (like non-mature themes) and there are definitely other things far more seinen (mature themes aren't to that high of a degree).
Then again that probably explains why I like it. Within the past two years or so, the anime/manga/game that worked best for my preferences have more or less been seinen, but that's just a demographic, but the genres are similar (drama, romance, ecchi, comedy, fantasy harem, it varies since there are interesting ways and not so interesting ways).
I like this show, and of the girls I know uh they don't watch anime, so only the guys that I know that try a large pool of anime would attempt this, but they didn't bother with kanon, so I wouldn't say a lot (though hm, they like gundam, so it's a bit too easy to say not a lot).
Yeah something like that.
To amoirsp: How do you get the 'another story'? Is it in CLANNAD the game? Or do you have to buy a seperate CD for that?
The official another story, "CLANNAD ~光見守る坂道で~" is a series of short stories that was serialized on Dengeki G's in 2004 after the release of CLANNAD earlier in the year. It's essentially a collection of short stories written by the scenario writers who felt like there was still something they wanted to tell about the characters of CLANNAD. The contents included:
- Tomoya and Nagisa's meeting one year before the game's beginning.
- An after story between Tomoya, Kotomi, and the Fujibayashi sisters, after the end of Kotomi route in the game.
- How Kyou became familiar with Tomoya and Sunohara in second year.
- A short story after Tomoya and Tomoyo began dating, where Tomoyo talked about an episode of her action-packed past.
- A diary by Kouko about Fuuko's daily life just before she entered high school (some of this was shown in episode 7).
- How Ryou became attracted to Tomoya after a mix up where he mistook her for Kyou.
- The story between Akio and Sanae's first meeting on a Christmas night.
- Story about Sunohara and Mei, back when he was still a soccer ace in middle school.
- A short story devoted to Botan.
- A bit of a love story about the secret of Yukine's charms.
- The story about Misae and Yoshino's relationship back when they were both students - a love story that never was?
- A story that took place in Koumura-sensei's house, where the now-retired teacher entertains Kouko, Yoshino, and Fuuko about a story of his past.
- A special continuation of the baseball route from the original game.
- Final comedy story featuring the entire cast at a public bath. A bit of a service scene chapter.
The stories (+2 more original extra chapters) are now published in a single book, which you can get here:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/ASIN/4840232504/
Wow, thanks for the headups, Sushi. However, shouldn't we put that in spoiler tags just in case someone doesn't want to get spoiled about future events, even if its a little vague?
Is it me or Nagisa's parents look young?
They look at least only 5-6 years older Nagisa herself.
Is it me or Nagisa's parents look young?
They look at least only 5-6 years older Nagisa herself.
Yes, they look young. They were likely designed to look young. The protagonist thinks they look young. Anyone can think they look young since they do.
Then again fictional scenarios can have younger/unusual circumstances, and fortunately an adult looking young is not particularly extreme.
And yes they likely do look at least 5 - 6 years older than Nagisa herself which was why in an earlier episode (or early in the game), Tomoya was like is this lady (referring to Sanae) Nagisa's sister? or mother?
Of course because of parental age differences with their children, aside from more extreme circumstances, you can assume they're at least 30s (like mid 30s or greater). The actual number isn't disclosed (though for most characters, it isn't. Since you have character identification as either some grade level student or an adult, you have a good enough age range to guess.)
Sushi, thanks very much for the Another Story information. Makes me want to purchase one and see the contents, if I could ever read it that is.
dgreater1
2007-12-02, 03:06
Is it me or Nagisa's parents look young?
They look at least only 5-6 years older Nagisa herself.
The miraculous power of Asian people handed down from generations to generations. No kidding, you might even mistake a 50 years old to be only around 30 to 40 years old. But actually, those who eats those weird foods in KEY games are quite young. Akiko with her Jam, Sanae and Akio with their weird bread. You might also gain eternal youth if you combine the two.
:heh::heh::heh::heh:
iamandragon
2007-12-02, 09:45
I'm glad I'm Asian...
But actually it's KEY's tradition to have mothers hotter than their daughter, yup.
Also it is because Akkio and Sanae got married at a young age as well, which is quite uncommon in modern days. Nowadays people don't get married until their 20s.
Now that Fuuko's arc is over, I have a question about episode 6 and 7:
There were a few random close-up shots of dandelions towards the end of episode 6 and in the beginning of episode 7. Will there be some kind of explanation for this later or was it some kind of japanese symbolism that I don't understand? If it'll be explained later, please just say so and don't tell me the explanation, I've been spoiled enough already.
Chaotic_Reign
2007-12-04, 19:05
Now that Fuuko's arc is over, I have a question about episode 6 and 7:
There were a few random close-up shots of dandelions towards the end of episode 6 and in the beginning of episode 7. Will there be some kind of explanation for this later or was it some kind of japanese symbolism that I don't understand? If it'll be explained later, please just say so and don't tell me the explanation, I've been spoiled enough already.
Doubt it'll be explained later, but the significance lies in the "flower language" of the dandelion.
There's a million different flower languages, but the ones for the dandelion that I know of are "remembering happy memories," "parting with close ones" and "until we meet again someday."
Louie Louie
2007-12-05, 13:18
umm.. is anybody here know where i can get the Clannad Manga??? please....
iamandragon
2007-12-06, 03:47
umm.. is anybody here know where i can get the Clannad Manga??? please....
Which language you want it in? If it's Chinese, I can(as usual) help if you pm me.
IRJustman
2007-12-07, 04:39
Akiko with her Jam, Sanae and Akio with their weird bread. You might also gain eternal youth if you combine the two.
And wouldn't eating that cocktail be something akin to combining matter and anti-matter? If so, heaven help us if someone brave (or stupid) enough to make the combo then consume it. *ducks for cover in a nearby disused fallout shelter*
--Ian.
iamandragon
2007-12-07, 04:42
I don't understand ig. Akiko's jam is lethal all right, but apart from 'not good', how is Sanae's bread dangerous at all? Aren't you people exaggerating it too much?
P.S. My brother is cross-dressing and will be walking around in Bayswater, London this afternoon from 3pm to 4pm as punishment. If you are in UK, try look for him! Reward given if you can find us.
IRJustman
2007-12-07, 06:49
I don't understand ig. Akiko's jam is lethal all right, but apart from 'not good', how is Sanae's bread dangerous at all? Aren't you people exaggerating it too much?
Perhaps it's exaggerating a bit, but eh, it was just silly hypothesizing. ;)
--Ian.
I thought Akiko's Jam and Sanae's Bread was formatted so that you would feel horribly sick when eating it.
Note it's not the bread with rice crackers in it, but rather that rainbow bread.
So yes, it would have to be the "special" bread, being the one that's rainbow coloured. (Don't forget, in a sense Akiko does have normal jams, but there's one secret recipe one, and that one is lethal. So actually, technically Sanae does have an equivalent, it just hasn't been used yet, but clearly implied, but not actually used.)
KholdStare
2007-12-09, 08:48
I'm not sure if this was asked, but what was Tomoya and Kyou's relationship before the anime? They call each other by first names and they're not even in the same class so I thought that was weird.
tripperazn
2007-12-09, 08:57
I'm not sure if this was asked, but what was Tomoya and Kyou's relationship before the anime? They call each other by first names and they're not even in the same class so I thought that was weird.
Apparently, Tomoya and Kyou were in the same class in their 2nd year (they are currently 3rd years/Seniors) and have been friends. Good enough friends that Kyou trusts Tomoya enough to let him know about her bike. It's probably just Tomoya's style to refer to girls like that. He has absolutely no right to refer to Tomoyo (whom he just met and isn't really even friends with) by her first name with no honorific, yet he does and Tomoyo herself apparently doesn't mind. The notable exception of Nagisa is probably due to the fact that she is Tomoya's love interest if the anime follows the game at all.
Apparently, Tomoya and Kyou were in the same class in their 2nd year (they are currently 3rd years/Seniors) and have been friends. Good enough friends that Kyou trusts Tomoya enough to let him know about her bike. It's probably just Tomoya's style to refer to girls like that. He has absolutely no right to refer to Tomoyo (whom he just met and isn't really even friends with) by her first name with no honorific, yet he does and Tomoyo herself apparently doesn't mind. The notable exception of Nagisa is probably due to the fact that she is Tomoya's love interest if the anime follows the game at all.
Well, he does call Ryou "Fujibayashi," in the same way he called Nagisa by her family name until recently. Not sure what the story is there, where he knows Kyou well enough (and his standards aren't high, as you said) to call her by her given name, yet not her sister.
tripperazn
2007-12-09, 10:35
Well, he does call Ryou "Fujibayashi," in the same way he called Nagisa by her family name until recently. Not sure what the story is there, where he knows Kyou well enough (and his standards aren't high, as you said) to call her by her given name, yet not her sister.
He probably didn't know Ryou until they were put into the same class this year. Knowing someone's sister doesn't really mean anything. I'm guessing they made it this way so that Tomoya can't call Ryou by her first name. I mean, just typing Ryou and Kyou is hard to distinguish. Tomoya must refer to Ryou as Fujibayashi to alleviate confusion. Besides, Ryou seems a lot more uptight and conservative than Kyou and probably wouldn't like to have Tomoya, whom she barely knows, by her first name only.
Pandering over how close Tomoya is to each girl is pretty pointless in this situation. Realistically, Tomoya shouldn't be referring to any of them by first name with no honorific. It is by far the most intimate level of communication. A situation where this is appropriately used is between sisters in Minami-ke, who refer to each other like this (as "Chiaki" and "Kana").
I'm guessing they made it this way so that Tomoya can't call Ryou by her first name. I mean, just typing Ryou and Kyou is hard to distinguish.
I don't think that's the case, since their Kanji names
杏(Kyou) <-> 椋(Ryou)
are different enough. It is more of a plot matter ,really.
KholdStare
2007-12-09, 18:27
Hm, I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on honorifics here, so I'm going to ask. What is more intimate/friendly here, Kotomi or Kotomi-chan?
tripperazn
2007-12-09, 18:41
I don't think that's the case, since their Kanji names
杏(Kyou) <-> 椋(Ryou)
are different enough. It is more of a plot matter ,really.
I meant when Tomoya is referring to them in speech. The twins will often appear together and they probably want to avoid forcing the audience to distinguish between Kyou and Ryou. Granted, it's not that similarif Nakamura Yuuichi clearly pronounces them, but being a seiyuu is hard enough, why make it harder?
Hm, I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on honorifics here, so I'm going to ask. What is more intimate/friendly here, Kotomi or Kotomi-chan?
Kotomi without the "-chan" is more intimate.
I meant when Tomoya is referring to them in speech. The twins will often appear together and they probably want to avoid forcing the audience to distinguish between Kyou and Ryou. Granted, it's not that similarif Nakamura Yuuichi clearly pronounces them, but being a seiyuu is hard enough, why make it harder?
Nah, remember that CLANNAD had its roots as a visual novel that started planning stages back in 2001. In its first release in 2004 it didn't have any voice acting at all. Heck back then not even AIR had been adapted to TV so I doubt KEY were considering the difficulties of voice acting back when they drafted the characters and their relationships. :p
Hm, I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on honorifics here, so I'm going to ask. What is more intimate/friendly here, Kotomi or Kotomi-chan?
It is a difference in approaches from my POV. '-chan' has a more endearing subcontext, while yobisuteru (leaving out the honorifics) symbolises a breakdown of some social barriers. You would use '-chan' when addressing children and you are an adult, when you are a girl and you are addressing a childhold friend or a female friend in child school... it has a more cutesy feeling IMHO. On contrast, leaving out the honorifics is used more often by males (when outside of the family circles,inside the family circle you see both parents calling their offspring without honorifics), and more often when addressing a junior high/high school friend. There isn't a fixed rule though, and it is highly dependant on each particular situation...however if we were to search for a (rough and exaggerated, but it shows the differences) translation, you could see Kotomi-chan as 'dear Kotomi', while Kotomi would be 'hey you, Kotomi'. They are both intimate but on different levels. :p
dgreater1
2007-12-09, 19:20
I meant when Tomoya is referring to them in speech. The twins will often appear together and they probably want to avoid forcing the audience to distinguish between Kyou and Ryou. Granted, it's not that similarif Nakamura Yuuichi clearly pronounces them, but being a seiyuu is hard enough, why make it harder?
I don't think so, it's more like Tomoya isn't that close to Fujibayashii yet to call her by her first name while Kyou has been his friend on 2nd year and possibly, Kyou forced him to call her by her first name :heh: By the way, calling by first name doesn't really mean they're going out, it only means they have intimate or mutual relationship. Although, in school, it could be misinterpreted, specially if someone knows you usually call the person by her last name then suddenly, one day, they'll found out that you call the person by her first name now. It will look kinda suspicious :heh:
Kotomi without the "-chan" is more intimate.
I think Kotomi-chan is more intimate. It's a cute way to call girls like that because you won't really use -chan at that age. Kotomi without -chan is a formal/normal way of calling her (no respect, but doesn't mean it has no respect) :3
tripperazn
2007-12-09, 19:59
I don't think so, it's more like Tomoya isn't that close to Fujibayashii yet to call her by her first name while Kyou has been his friend on 2nd year and possibly, Kyou forced him to call her by her first name :heh: By the way, calling by first name doesn't really mean they're going out, it only means they have intimate or mutual relationship. Although, in school, it could be misinterpreted, specially if someone knows you usually call the person by her last name then suddenly, one day, they'll found out that you call the person by her first name now. It will look kinda suspicious :heh:
Yes, you're right, but I'm saying they set it up this way on purpose. Key could just as easily have put Ryou in Kyou and Tomoya's second year class. However, they chose not to do that. I don't know the reason why. But I speculate that they only intend Tomoya to refer to main characters by first name no honorific basis (except Kotomi, whose idiosyncrasies are purposeful). If you didn't already know, Ryou is a side character.
I have never implied that first name only was for couples, only that it implies great intimacy between the individuals.
I think Kotomi-chan is more intimate. It's a cute way to call girls like that because you won't really use -chan at that age. Kotomi without -chan is a formal/normal way of calling her (no respect, but doesn't mean it has no respect) :3
I don't profess to be a native speaker of Japanese, but the "first name no honorific" is not often used for a reason. It is more intimate than the commonly used (in anime, not necessarily IRL) "-chan" as far as I know.
Watch the sprocket subs for ep 9. They agree.
Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-09, 20:15
Due to my laziness, I'll just post something from Wiki:
Chan (ちゃん, Chan?) is a diminutive suffix. It is an informal version of san used to address children and female family members. It may also be used towards animals, lovers, intimate friends, and people whom one has known since childhood. Chan continues to be used as a term of endearment, especially for girls, into adulthood. Parents will probably always call their daughters chan and their sons kun, though chan can be used towards boys just as easily. Adults may use chan as a term of endearment to women with whom they are on close terms.
Chan can be considered a feminine mode of speech in that it is used mainly by, or towards, females. Its pattern of usage is similar to using "dear" when addressing someone in English. Males would not use chan when addressing other males
In the case of Kotomi, the reason for her responding to "Kotomi-chan" will be explained in the future. However, it is safe to say that for Tomoya, adding "chan" is a sigh of how close he should be to Kotomi.
As for Kyou and Ryou: the story behind how Tomoya started calling Kyou by her first name is shown in Official Another Story Clannad: 光見守る坂道で.
dgreater1
2007-12-09, 20:34
I have never implied that first name only was for couples, only that it implies great intimacy between the individuals.
Oh, sorry if you misunderstand when I included that. I'm just adding some additional information about calling someone by their first name :3
I don't profess to be a native speaker of Japanese, but the "first name no honorific" is not often used for a reason. It is more intimate than the commonly used (in anime, not necessarily IRL) "-chan" as far as I know.
Watch the sprocket subs for ep 9. They agree.
Well, we know that the reason for honorifcs is for relationship level and respect. But anyway, we can also say Kotomi and Kotomi-chan has the same level of intimacy depending on the person, but in Kotomi's case, the added -chan is more intimate than no -chan. You wouldn't really call someone -chan if you're not intimate with that person. You might get pummeled if you call a lady -chan though, unless she's intimate with you and is fine with that. Adding -chan in a name is kinda implying that that person is a bit childish that's why you have to be more intimate to that person that she's also fine if you add -chan to her name, that kind of reasoning :heh:
Oh, sorry if you misunderstand when I included that. I'm just adding some additional information about calling someone by their first name :3
Well, we know that the reason for honorifcs is for relationship level and respect. But anyway, we can also say Kotomi and Kotomi-chan has the same level of intimacy depending on the person, but in Kotomi's case, the added -chan is more intimate than no -chan. You wouldn't really call someone -chan if you're not intimate with that person. You might get pummeled if you call a lady -chan though, unless she's intimate with you and is fine with that. Adding -chan in a name is kinda implying that that person is a bit childish that's why you have to be more intimate to that person that she's also fine if you add -chan to her name, that kind of reasoning :heh:
To add to that, Tomoya isn't the only case. Recall what Sunohara calls Nagisa. Now recall what he calls Kyou or Tomoyo. Now see the contrast. Now there is a difference. (Of course the source and preferences are nearly opposite directions, as in Kotomi wants Tomoya to add chan to the name, whereas in Sunohara's case he purposely adds -chan in glee.)
Not the best analogy though. At least there's a clear certain pattern.
ElementSun
2007-12-10, 02:45
is it just me, or does anyone else notice the huge similarities between Kyou and Ryou Fujibayashi and Kagami and Tsukasa Hiiraga from Lucky Star?
Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-10, 02:52
is it just me, or does anyone else notice the huge similarities between Kyou and Ryou and Kagami Fujibayashi and Kagami and Tsukasa Hiiraga from Lucky Star?
Your point being?
Clannad was released 3 months after Lucky Star first started, so I would say that the similarity is nothign particular.
iamandragon
2007-12-10, 03:57
Your point being?
Clannad was released 3 months after Lucky Star first started, so I would say that the similarity is nothign particular.
Not to mention the game was released years before it...Twins are not an uncommon factor, especially in non-violent shows.
KholdStare
2007-12-10, 14:41
Oh, sorry if you misunderstand when I included that. I'm just adding some additional information about calling someone by their first name :3
Well, we know that the reason for honorifcs is for relationship level and respect. But anyway, we can also say Kotomi and Kotomi-chan has the same level of intimacy depending on the person, but in Kotomi's case, the added -chan is more intimate than no -chan. You wouldn't really call someone -chan if you're not intimate with that person. You might get pummeled if you call a lady -chan though, unless she's intimate with you and is fine with that. Adding -chan in a name is kinda implying that that person is a bit childish that's why you have to be more intimate to that person that she's also fine if you add -chan to her name, that kind of reasoning :heh:
I asked the question because from my knowledge of honorifics (aka little) and just by judging from context, it appears that Tomoya has more difficulty calling someone -chan (both Nagisa and Kotomi), so that leads me to thinking that -chan is more intimate. However, from what I understand, the intimacy of a boy calling girl without honorifics at all is also intimate in the sense that they are just good friends. It's more confusing that people who like each other likes to call each other by their last name with the -san suffix. So overall, I guess I could just try to enjoy the anime without trying to understand everything about Japanese culture. :heh:
Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-10, 20:25
Not to mention the game was released years before it...Twins are not an uncommon factor, especially in non-violent shows.
Actually, the start was pretty close.
Lucky Star was first serialized in Janurary 2004, while the limited PC version of Clannad was released in April 28, 2004. (Regular was August 6, 2004)
I asked the question because from my knowledge of honorifics (aka little) and just by judging from context, it appears that Tomoya has more difficulty calling someone -chan (both Nagisa and Kotomi), so that leads me to thinking that -chan is more intimate. However, from what I understand, the intimacy of a boy calling girl without honorifics at all is also intimate in the sense that they are just good friends. It's more confusing that people who like each other likes to call each other by their last name with the -san suffix. So overall, I guess I could just try to enjoy the anime without trying to understand everything about Japanese culture. :heh:
I do have to admit that honorifics would be hard for people whose mother languange doesn't have as an extensive system as Japan/Korea.
KholdStare
2007-12-10, 21:43
I do have to admit that honorifics would be hard for people whose mother languange doesn't have as an extensive system as Japan/Korea.
I am actually Vietnamese where there are some usage of honorifics (but in this case, it's put at the beginning of names such as Mr., Ms., but more extensive). However, it is nowhere as extensive as Japanese honorifics, and you know away if someone are friends, a couple, or family members.
Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-10, 21:51
I am actually Vietnamese where there are some usage of honorifics (but in this case, it's put at the beginning of names such as Mr., Ms., but more extensive). However, it is nowhere as extensive as Japanese honorifics, and you know away if someone are friends, a couple, or family members.
It's not THAT exact, but it's still systemized enough to almost immediately sense the relationships.
is it just me, or does anyone else notice the huge similarities between Kyou and Ryou Fujibayashi and Kagami and Tsukasa Hiiraga from Lucky Star?
Twins are not uncommon in Japanese media. Contrasting personalities in the twins is even more common.
Watch Futakoi and Futakoi: Alternative for some more twin fun... LOL :heh:
IRJustman
2007-12-15, 08:16
Twins are not uncommon in Japanese media. Contrasting personalities in the twins is even more common.
Watch Futakoi and Futakoi: Alternative for some more twin fun... LOL :heh:
Good call!
Though unlike the Hiiragis in Lucky Star and the Fujibayashis in Clannad, the Shiroganes are identical twins rather than fraternal twins, as are all the other girls, even the teachers, Momoi Ai and Mai. It's just that the Shiroganes who are the "polar opposite" personalities in the Futakoi franchises.
--Ian.
[Note to self: Rewatch Futakoi Alternative sometime. Incidentally, Futakoi Alternative has Seki Tomokazu, who voiced Kitagawa Jun in Kanon, as Futaba Rentarou.]
ok dunno if this is the place to ask?
But is their a guide to help you get 100% on Tomoyo After and does AGTH and Atlas version 13 work since i tried it and some of the words translate to gibberish is their a site to add new words to it?
Dunno if this is the place correct me if this isn't.
minhtam1638
2007-12-15, 18:09
ok dunno if this is the place to ask?
But is their a guide to help you get 100% on Tomoyo After and does AGTH and Atlas version 13 work since i tried it and some of the words translate to gibberish is their a site to add new words to it?
Dunno if this is the place correct me if this isn't.
You may want to try Tomoyo's character thread.
ok I will then thanks for telling ^^
Shikimori Kazuki
2007-12-19, 14:44
is there a difference in the colors of the badge in each of their uniform? Notice that Kotomi and Kyou's badge is blue while Tomoyo's badge is red.
I'm just guessing but does this have something to do with what school year they are in......?
here is a reference to what i am talking about: http://pdkm02.mofile.com/p/1/2007/12/19/ZV/ZV62KIZWYR_103.jpg
is there a difference in the colors of the badge in each of their uniform? Notice that Kotomi and Kyou's badge is blue while Tomoyo's badge is red.
I'm just guessing but does this have something to do with what school year they are in......?
here is a reference to what i am talking about: http://pdkm02.mofile.com/p/1/2007/12/19/ZV/ZV62KIZWYR_103.jpg
Yes, the green badge that Fuko wore signified her first-year status, Tomoyo's red badge signifies her second-year status, and the blue badges that Tomoya, Sunohara, Nagisa, Kyou, and Ryou wear on their uniforms signify their third-year status.
minhtam1638
2007-12-19, 17:09
Wait, doesn't every school follow that formula?
GyroidFanatic
2007-12-19, 17:14
EDIT: nevermind
tripperazn
2007-12-19, 17:19
Wait, doesn't every school follow that formula?
No, I remember in Lucky Star Konata is complaining about how underclassmen don't recognize her "senpai" status. That's partially because their uniforms aren't any different. There are plenty of examples where the uniforms are standard for all 3 years.
NoSanninWa
2007-12-19, 17:20
Wait, doesn't every school follow that formula?
Not the exact colors, but many (not all) high schools have a similar system to differentiate the uniforms by year. That is why this appears in so many different anime. I'm assuming that the person who asked the original question just hasn't ever noticed it before.
iamandragon
2007-12-19, 17:52
Not the exact colors, but many (not all) high schools have a similar system to differentiate the uniforms by year. That is why this appears in so many different anime. I'm assuming that the person who asked the original question just hasn't ever noticed it before.
Usually it's only the small parts that's different from each other. Like my school, our neckties(yes, neckties for BOTH boyz and girls) are of different colours. First years wears white, second years wear yellow, third blue and fourth black. It'd be a big trouble for the poorer families if they have to buy an entire set of uniform every year, but things like neckties come in cheap.
SnakeLegend
2007-12-22, 09:06
How come:
Okasaki shares a part of his past with Kotomi? O_o Spoil me please.
ReizoSan
2007-12-23, 18:35
This info is not 100% as i got this off someone's post here on haruhi suzimiya second series thread,
It also depends on what Kyoto animates next fall. To me, the best animation schedule given Clannad season 1 ends in march is:
1. Clannad: 10/07-3/08
2. Haruhi 2: 4/08-6/08
3. Clannad Part 2: 7/08-9/08
4. Unknown Series: 10/08-3/09
5. Haruhi 3: 4/09-6/09
is this information correct as this is surpost to be Kyotos schedule so is there going to be a second season of Clannad??.
That post is mere speculation / wishful thinking on behalf of the poster, and does not represent any official information in any shape or form. Anything on that list past Haruhi season 2 is speculation.
GyroidFanatic
2007-12-23, 19:31
That post is mere speculation / wishful thinking on behalf of the poster, and does not represent any official information in any shape or form. Anything on that list past Haruhi season 2 is speculation.And even then, the date on Haruhi season 2 is unknown
ReizoSan
2007-12-24, 06:38
Thanks for clearing that up, but to be fair i hope that is correct i would love another season on haruhi and clannad.
sousuke21
2007-12-25, 06:53
hello guys. i have a quick question. i'm new to this series and i just wanted to know if i can jump right into the anime or do i need to brush up on other sources like the game before i start to better understand everything?
Ascaloth
2007-12-25, 06:57
hello guys. i have a quick question. i'm new to this series and i just wanted to know if i can jump right into the anime or do i need to brush up on other sources like the game before i start to better understand everything?
Short answer?
Nope.
EDIT: Actually, make that, "Nope, go ahead and just jump in." :heh:
ZhangKhaiEn
2007-12-25, 09:26
light novel question here:
Can someone please post the titles of the first three chapters? English, Chinese, Japanese, doesn't matter. Thanks.
IRJustman
2007-12-25, 12:06
Short answer?
Nope.
EDIT: Actually, make that, "Nope, go ahead and just jump in." :heh:
However I will only add that having watched the previous series helps in picking up the in-jokes.
Otherwise, I say the same thing. Dive right in!
--Ian.
That post is mere speculation / wishful thinking on behalf of the poster, and does not represent any official information in any shape or form. Anything on that list past Haruhi season 2 is speculation.
There has been all manner of speculation about what lies ahead for CLANNAD, and another one of those theories is based on the numbering of the catalogue numbers for the DVDs (see here (http://www.i-love-key.net/archives/2007/11/clannad2.html) for more details). They assume that because there is a gap between the numberings, that there will be some sort of special releases which will fit in there nicely, as per AIR previously.
But again, remember that this is all speculation again. I believe this is where all the rumours of a 2-cour + 1-cour CLANNAD TV series stemmed from.
sousuke21
2007-12-25, 22:20
However I will only add that having watched the previous series helps in picking up the in-jokes.
Otherwise, I say the same thing. Dive right in!
--Ian.
what previous series?
what previous series?Kyoani worked with Key several times. Kyoani = Kyoto Animation studios, Key = the producers of games like Clannad.
By previous, it means, Air and Kanon, both anime adapted from Key.
Then it may also mean you should watch Suzumiya Haruhi and Lucky Star, they pull references from many sources and other sources pull theirs.
Ascaloth
2007-12-26, 01:17
Kyoani worked with Key several times. Kyoani = Kyoto Animation studios, Key = the producers of games like Clannad.
By previous, it means, Air and Kanon, both anime adapted from Key.
Then it may also mean you should watch Suzumiya Haruhi and Lucky Star, they pull references from many sources and other sources pull theirs.
The KyoAni/KEY collaborations are typically fairly isolated in themselves; you'll see references to each other quite a bit, but noticably fewer references from other KyoAni productions.
At least, far as I can tell.
sousuke21
2007-12-26, 05:39
ohhh i see. i got confused cuz i thought there was some prequel to clannad or something lol silly me. thank you all for the help. i've heard that this is an awesome series so i better get started ;)
Yesmilord
2007-12-27, 12:28
Hey guys, sorry if this an inappropriate place to put such a question but I've been yearning to ask: when is Clannad going to get really good? It's not that I haven't enjoyed it so far, but I feel like it has been floating above the surface of something much deeper.
Everyone talks about how amazing the Clannad story was, so I was just wondering how much longer till the serious stuff starts taking place.
Ascaloth
2007-12-27, 12:46
Hey guys, sorry if this an inappropriate place to put such a question but I've been yearning to ask: when is Clannad going to get really good? It's not that I haven't enjoyed it so far, but I feel like it has been floating above the surface of something much deeper.
Everyone talks about how amazing the Clannad story was, so I was just wondering how much longer till the serious stuff starts taking place.
There are two groups of people in relation to your question; the newcomers who can't answer your question as they don't know more than you do, and the game veterans who won't answer your question because they can't do so without spoiling you. :D
If we're talking about the "something much deeper" which CLANNAD "has been floating above the surface" of, relax. The track records of AIR and Kanon indicates that CLANNAD, like its predecessors, won't really get real good until the second half. as it is, we're nowhere near there yet, so just enjoy the ride for now. ;)
Supah Em
2007-12-27, 13:06
so, is it going to be a very sad story like air? or more of a melodramatic one like kanon?
air's story was too sad dang =(
iamandragon
2007-12-27, 19:47
so, is it going to be a very sad story like air? or more of a melodramatic one like kanon?
air's story was too sad dang =(
CLANNAD's story is teary, but in a different fashion compared to AIR and Kanon. Teas you shed from CLANNAD are warm from the family-ish love you see in CLANNAD. It's not a sad story, nor is it a melodramatic story. Crying in CLANNAD is depletes much less energy compared to the previous two mentioned.
Appologise for the spoiler tags, anyways i work it out, Thank you everyone for the help
ok dunno if Ishould ask this but is it possible to play the clannad game on a psp any type of pps that is because Im confused with this
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://schneemondblume.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-242.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=8&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dclannad%2Bon%2Bpsp%26hl%3Den%26safe%3 Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DvjQ%26sa%3DG
theused69
2007-12-31, 06:56
Well, that is a suggestion of iamandragon to save some time. You are not oblidged to put a save, but it save some time (though you can always use "jump to next choice" or CTRL instead).
And, yes, if you didn't finish Misae's route before Tomoyo, you won't be able to get her scene during the school festival during Tomoyo's route, and therefore, you will not be able to get Misae's light.
Ok thanks. I must be on the right track then.
Also made a crucial mistake there. Sanae is not Misae. She's my favorite you know, though I should be playing Nagisa's arc the last. Damn I miss that mom :(
I've got a quick question for the game. After getting the translation patch, I've gone through all the routes with the help of the guide in this thread( which is mildly confusing, but still excellent, by the way), but some stuff isn't translated. Could someone just spoil the illusionary world thing, and the after story for me?
GyroidFanatic
2007-12-31, 07:18
Illusionary World translation: http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/index.php?title=Clannad:SEEN6900
And as for After Story, just wait until it's translated. It's pretty damn long itself and a big part of the story.
Well... I'd at least like to know what direction it takes in terms of the ending. Is it a good end? as in happy? or is it tragic and soul crushing? I've heard different things about it, and knowing KEY, I'm sort of expecting the latter, which would well... suck.
I'm impatient and don't mind having the end spoiled for me, But I guess I understand if you don't care to spoil it for anyone.
Thanks for the link to the illusionary world translation, too.
asuradeadeye
2008-01-01, 01:47
http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~maguni/game/clannad.htm
that is the guide made years ago. if you can't read it, put the site into babelfish translation, though you may require like kindergarden-level japanese for babelfish errors (like 'it shoots' for 'ignore', and 'satoshi generation' for 'sakagami tomoyo')
and that site has dozens of guides for other games if you want to check it out
GyroidFanatic
2008-01-01, 02:12
We also have this English guide posted at the beginning of the thread:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1191340&postcount=56
Infornography
2008-01-01, 17:05
Guys, after registering here years ago. And buying my copies of Clannad and Tomoyo After ( could only find the PS2 version...sigh... ) years ago, I finally started to use this board thanks to this thread. I can't read japanese ( I'm learning for work though ) and this thread has given me life again. I finally cracked open my Clannad Game after dusting it off and began busting through.
I won't do any spoilers but I have to say that
Tomoyo and Kyou's Route made me all misty eyed. And that's a tough thing to do considering I'm a pretty tough and big guy ( I used to work as a bouncer for a local club ). Thanks to Tomoyo and Kyou's route had me locked in my room on new years eve, straight through new years day with the occassional "WHY GODS!?" scream echoing from my apt.
Just wanted to say my piece, and say "thank you" to everyone contributing in this thread.
And I haven't tried Nagisa's route yet, i'm trying to do everyone else's first to get the after scene and also wait till it gets translated. ( Donate Money to the Clannad Translation Project! Beer Money = Good! )
iamandragon
2008-01-01, 19:46
Do you read Chinese? If yes, I can link you to the patch download site for the Chinese version of Tomoya After.
ZhangKhaiEn
2008-01-01, 20:20
I can link you to the patch download site for the Chinese version of Tomoya After
I'll take that offer too, if it's alright. >_<
tripperazn
2008-01-01, 21:43
Do you read Chinese? If yes, I can link you to the patch download site for the Chinese version of Tomoya After.
If it's simplified, may I have it as well?
Infornography
2008-01-01, 22:11
Do you read Chinese? If yes, I can link you to the patch download site for the Chinese version of Tomoya After.
Well, I don't read Chinese, but I'm willing to abduct my chinese friend for a day or two until she reads me all the dialogue. So please link me to it!
http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~maguni/game/clannad.htm
that is the guide made years ago. if you can't read it, put the site into babelfish translation, though you may require like kindergarden-level japanese for babelfish errors (like 'it shoots' for 'ignore', and 'satoshi generation' for 'sakagami tomoyo')
and that site has dozens of guides for other games if you want to check it out
Yeah... I'm not really able to make much sense of even the babelfish translation. I have absolutely no knowledge of Japanese/ Chinese.
tripperazn
2008-01-02, 00:54
Go here: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...0&postcount=56 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1191340&postcount=56)
iamandragon
2008-01-02, 01:38
I was about to link them to the same post too. Thank you tripperazn.
For Tomoya After's Chinese patch, you can go find it here (http://www.keyfc.net/bbs/showtopic-22599.aspx)
tripperazn
2008-01-02, 02:15
Thank you for translating it. Thanks for the link as well! Now...to actually get a copy of Tomoyo After...and brush up on my Chinese...the last 8 years really took a toll on my literacy :heh:
how is the clannad game played? i recently saw a vid of a haruhi psp visual novel where you answered a bunch of questions and then saw the outcome. is this the same style for clannad?
Klashikari
2008-01-02, 12:02
CLANNAD is played much like any Visual Novel: you have a dialogue interface, the BGM, the BG, characters CG and such.
You just read, then click, read click. At some part of the plot, you will bump on some branch points, forcing you to choose one of the given answers.
Some choices can be a definite flag (meaning that if you miss this flag, you won't be able to go to "that path", etc), etc.
For instance, when Tomoya sees Nagisa in the courtyard, he can join her or not. If you don't, you will not be able to interact with Nagisa in the future, only for rare occasions though (so, you won't be able to enter in her route).
CLANNAD is played much like any Visual Novel: you have a dialogue interface, the BGM, the BG, characters CG and such.
You just read, then click, read click. At some part of the plot, you will bump on some branch points, forcing you to choose one of the given answers.
Some choices can be a definite flag (meaning that if you miss this flag, you won't be able to go to "that path", etc), etc.
For instance, when Tomoya sees Nagisa in the courtyard, he can join her or not. If you don't, you will not be able to interact with Nagisa in the future, only for rare occasions though (so, you won't be able to enter in her route).
ty. it was as i suspected, those games really arent for me. i got tired of the chose your path goosebumps books quick enough. is there any walkthroughs of the game? ie to look up paths for finished arcs in the anime
tripperazn
2008-01-02, 14:46
ty. it was as i suspected, those games really arent for me. i got tired of the chose your path goosebumps books quick enough. is there any walkthroughs of the game? ie to look up paths for finished arcs in the anime
If you simply want to know how the girl's stories play out, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Clannad_characters&oldid=173579720
I'm sure there is more information in other older versions of this Wiki page, but you're just going to have to look for it.
NOT recommended for anyone who is waiting for the patch from BakaTsuki, you've been warned.
lols seen ait and thank you for that link now I can find about about kawaii tomoyo TT
edit : one more thing is their hentai in the PC tomoyo after?
ZhangKhaiEn
2008-01-02, 16:11
For Tomoya After's Chinese patch, you can go find it here (http://www.keyfc.net/bbs/showtopic-22599.aspx)
Many thanks to you!
edit : one more thing is their hentai in the PC tomoyo after?
Yes there are. Not a lot though, and nothing too exotic.
If you simply want to know how the girl's stories play out, go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Clannad_characters&oldid=173579720
I'm sure there is more information in other older versions of this Wiki page, but you're just going to have to look for it.
NOT recommended for anyone who is waiting for the patch from BakaTsuki, you've been warned.
D'OH forgot that wikipedia has it, lol there was a reason why i avoided that info.
Go here: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...0&postcount=56 (http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=1191340&postcount=56)
That's the walkthrough I've been using already but... The after story isn't translated by the patch. Sure, I have a walkthrough for it but I still won't know what the hell is going on. >_>
I was just asking how the after story goes in terms of the ending. Happy? Sad? I'm impatient and it's bugging the hell outta me.
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