View Full Version : School Days - Overall Series Impressions & Total Series Rating
Chrisjon
2010-06-24, 17:35
These series gets a 4/10 for me. This mainly due to the lack of good characters. Now lets take a look at the three characters and see if the author wrote it so that the viewer would actually care about the characters.
Makoto- He pretty much does any girl he can get his hands on and at the end of the series fall back in love with Kotonoha AGAIN and I am soposed to believe this is true love when he has already been f*cking around with a bunch of other girls... I don't think so.
Kotonoha- Probably the only character in the series worth caring about but she ends up turning into a murderer to avenge a boy who I think actually would have dropped her again in a month or so.
Sekai- Ends up killing the boy she loved because he didn't pay attention to her....
So all in all the characters are very weak in this series and that's its main problem.
The characters being weak (I mean in the actual sense, as I don't buy the notion of the series having all that weak writing, myself) makes the series bad? Oh, God, than the great majority of the human race makes us all look really bad, no? Oh, wait... I guess it does. But how's that a reflection on fiction, again?
And whoever said you were supposed to "believe in true love" as regards Makoto and Kotonoha? What happened to desperation and co-dependency?
DragoZERO
2010-06-25, 08:29
This series is not about true love, that is for sure. It's very realistic except for the lack of parental supervision, which would have prevented the mind blowing (my mind) and heart breaking (my heart) scenes at the end.
Yeah, I always did ask myself where were all those kids' parents. Then again, it's not like in real life these kinds of situations don't occur at an alarming rate, as well...
Ok, this series seriously freaked me out ._. I don't know which version you guys watched, but I think the way they colored the blood black made it even more scarring to me.. I don't know why.. I'm not really saying I liked the series.. but it's a series i'll never forget watching for sure ^^'
Horrid series. Infact, I stopped on like episode 10.
You can never take this type of series seriously and actually care about the series -_-. I've read about what happens in the end. It still doesn't make up for the stupidity used in this whole damn thing. I gave the series 3/10 -_-
Chrisjon
2010-06-26, 10:05
The characters being weak (I mean in the actual sense, as I don't buy the notion of the series having all that weak writing, myself) makes the series bad? Oh, God, than the great majority of the human race makes us all look really bad, no? Oh, wait... I guess it does. But how's that a reflection on fiction, again?
And whoever said you were supposed to "believe in true love" as regards Makoto and Kotonoha? What happened to desperation and co-dependency?
I am just saying that the way Makoto's and Kotonoha's reunion was being portrayed as ''true love'' moment. I also meant the characters were weak in that the author really didn't take any time to develop the characters he just put them out their and made a unexpected ending... However one thing that left out that I believe I should mention is that the character design in my opinion is exceptional but other then that there is nothing more to this series.
Archon_Wing
2010-06-27, 23:36
But outside of the last episode, I can't think of many examples at all where School Days uses empty shock value. I think people make this show to be a lot dumber than it really is... I thought a lot of care was taken to balancing things so that the characters could be morons or jerks but still remain in-character and have believable reasons for acting in such a way, and I was also impressed with the very measured, gradual rate at which the characters lost themselves and changed from their beginning series selves to their end. Sometimes it seems like people think the School Days cast is stupid enough to break suspension of disbelief simply because they're not perfect, the same way anyone that shows any emotion or frustration in response to problems is emo, angsty, and annoying. (I'm mostly defending the first ten episodes here, I agree that the finale is over the top and so's 11 in parts.)
Yea, I would say there's nothing too shocking about the most of the show too but I would be referring strictly to the ending. But my dislike of the series really hasn't to do with people acting stupid or anything like that =It's perfectly natural for their judgement to be swayed with matters of love and hormones rather I simply didn't emphasize with them, thus I didn't care for them even though I really should have.
I mean I don't like this series at all, but I wouldn't call it unrealistic. In fact the show is well aware that the typical idea of a male being surrounded by tons of love of interests with only concern for himself is gonna hurt people. And the outcome isn't gonna be nice no matter what happens. So yes, it accomplished something different. I just don't care for how they did it.
edit: Well, I liked the uniforms though, so it wasn't a total loss. :heh:
So I guess I can officially join the "Makoto is a bastard" club, because he was indeed one. There were traces of what I thought would be his actual character; moments, like when he was talking with Setsuna alone(at the entrance ceremony as well as some moments in ep 6 or 7). This, even if he still blazed down the path of absurd denseness about what he was doing, should be who he really was. Otome said he was kinder as well back in middle school. So why do we end up with a ridiculous char that is so oblivious to what he's doing?
At least, at the end of episode 11, after seeing what he had done to Kotonoha, I thought he would understand the implications of his actions, even if he still met with a violent end. But instead, he acts EXACTLY the way he has from the latter half of the series, not even taking into account how Sekai was feeling. Maybe it was Sekai that led him on and 'tempted' him, but it was he that said Kotonoha was 'a bother' and 'boring' to Sekai . He said he liked Sekai more amongst other things. He NEVER says the opposite to Koto, even when he broke up with her in ep 10. This is why it's not truly Sekai's fault, imo. We've seen in typical fashion how such advances are carried out, Shuffle's Kaede being a good example. He took advantage of her kindness, even if it was under a subtle pretense of wanting to love him, and constantly remind everyone that he and Sekai were dating. I mostly thought as I watched the anime that Koto wasn't getting any love; getting bullied, ignored(but not from her perspective), etc, but when I thought about it at the end, is that really so? For him to just dump Sekai like that at the end, and make out with Koto right in front of her in the last episode, actually made me pity Sekai more. It was more properly emphasized that they were a couple as opposed to Makoto/Koto was, plus the baby and being ignored, Sekai surely got the shorter end of the stick. Koto was different. Her love wasn't particularly stemmed from "he's fun to be with" love, but an 'infatuation from afar' love, or maybe the love of being in love, further multiplied by reading romance novels and self-assuring herself despite his attitude at times with her.
edit: After watching the last ep a few more times, and looking at Makoto's nuances, maybe he DID slightly change. The wording he used when Sekai came over, I guess he didn't want her to have an abortion, but still had a hard time talking about it. Kinda sad, he still deserved to die, but he could have at least been able to redeem himself a single time had he managed to tell her that.
The one thing I truly wished that didn't happen was Makoto/Setsu having sex. I know that it may have been 'implied, but not known', but judging how Minami? tried to get him to see Sekai in ep 11 and he never didn't, I can only assume that Setsu did it with him. Setsu being with that bastard... makes my blood boil, even more than him doing anyone else >=0(. A minor thing is that I wished he died a slow, agonizing death, so that he could reflect on what he had done before he died.
Generally though, I dulled my senses while watching this, and I think it had the heavy dramatic atmosphere that I've been looking for recently. Although Makoto was a horrible char in that he was TOO oblivious to what was going on(or didn't care) and did nothing but think of himself, I enjoyed how balanced the story was in preventing you from knowing how his relationship(s) would end, with both Sekai and Koto having somewhat fragile relations that could tip over at anything(can't word this right =0\). Not my favorite show by any means, but it was enjoyable enough.
Pricey231
2010-07-16, 17:52
i dont think anyone really needed to die at the end because mikato saw how his actions had hurt people and was going to change by getting back together with katsura but i suppose it was too late ;) RIP i suppose
Awful anime series, one of the worst I've ever seen. Archon Wing had the right idea when he said that this series was basically hentai without any explicit content...which leaves us with a barely coherent plot and cardboard characters in a completely twisted world with almost zero moral basis and excessive fanservice.
I mean, this series did evoke emotion from me, but the wrong ones. Almost every character in this show is detestable and their actions barely make sense.
I outright wanted to Alt+F4 at the beginning of episode 11 and give up when I saw Sekai's best friend sleeping with Makoto. She didn't really have any reason to do it, she knew Sekai was "pregnant" with Makoto's child, and she was aware that Sekai wasn't showing up to school because of her emotional breakdown. So why did she do it? Even if she was just getting over her rejection from that one dude, she could have picked anyone, and I mean anyone besides her best friend's cheating ass boyfriend and baby's daddy. On top of that, she pretended to be concerned for Sekai after the fact. Give me a fucking break.
Then we get episode 12. Oh my god, lol. What the hell was the point of that? Is anyone supposed to know about what happened or get a chance to react to it? Would there be any consequences to her actions? Where are the parents (or even the adults, for that matter) in all this? Why the hell did I sit through six hours of softcore porn just to be subjected to some random, shitty ending? The world may never know!
I'd outright give this series a 0 for the time I wasted watching it never paying off in the slightest, after I expected so much good from it in the first episode. But nonetheless, they made Setsuna, who is adorable, sensible, and flawed within reason, so I'm going to settle for a 1.
EDIT: Oh wait, there's a -1 option on the poll. Nevermind!
You did realize that Setsuna was the one originally in love with Makoto, and that was the reason why Sekai approached him in the first place? There's your reason for her behavior (plus her concern for Sekai, although I'd wager that played a significantly smaller part in her decision) in episode 11.
As for the "not making sense" bit... c'mon, don't you see how the world is, today? Kids do even worse stuff, on a regular basis, and have been doing for a long time - parental guidance or not.
DragoZERO
2010-08-13, 10:18
Where are the parents (or even the adults, for that matter) in all this?If there were parents, this series would have ended much sooner. Parents are often left out of the story, whether it's explained or not.
As for the "not making sense" bit... c'mon, don't you see how the world is, today? Kids do even worse stuff, on a regular basis, and have been doing for a long time - parental guidance or not.Yeah, except for the murderous ending, everything is plausible in real life.
Hate to just jump in, but I will.
My impression of the beginning and middle of this harem anime is just decent. That being, a 5/10.
The reason its not low is because it has some plot.
Reason not too high: Not that great of plot either.
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!!SPOILER!!
The ending made me a little angry/depressed.As I get to episode 8-12, I see Makoto getting stupider and making less logical decisions. I pressed on regardless of the stupidity of Makoto anyway. But then, a follow-up abrupt decision made in episode 12 made me go :twitch: . As this anime had a little potential, it's then decided by Sekai to actually kill Makoto. Even though Makoto was portrayed as an idiot, I do not think that however much hatred you have, you wouldn't kill the one you love, or really like for that matter. And Kotonoha cutting up Sekai to see if there was a baby in her? What?!? That's just insane. I would never see Kotonoha ever doing that no matter how crazy she is. While I do like twists in anime, this is not a twist. Its simply ripping it apart.
The main theme of the anime changed dramatically and abruptly. That's the main reason rating this down is so popular. And I do agree, as my 5/10 is now a 2.5/10.
At the end, I could see the writer got bored of this anime, or wanted to end it. It is clearly obvious he made Makoto look like a real jerk. He did a poor job of hiding this. I can't really say more on this issue...
But here is the way I would've ended it.
Alternate Ending:
I think the dramatic moment is necessary, but it was too much. I think, it would've been better that Sekai badly injured Mokoto instead of killing mercilessly. And Kotonoha killing Sekai was WAY too much also, so I think she would've just cut her face, just barely missing the neck. Then something would have to happen to split the two relationships with Makoto up. It's really not that hard, it could have been that Sekai falls in love with someone else (or is cheating on Mokoto, since she already is the grand bitch apparently :rolleyes: ). Or maybe even Kotonoha simply hating Makoto for his treachery. Creativeness would be awesome ^_^.
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But I can see why the deaths were here. It would've been (since the writer made the thinking of Makoto that way) Makoto switching from Sekai to Kotonoha frivolously forever. It's sad to say, but a rewrite of the last few episodes to fit the original intent would satisfy people. Although it would look sketchy, its better that way since as from posts and friends, the final episodes were clearly just put together sloppily and with no care or creativity.
Nothing more I can say. 2.5/10. Not the worse, not the best either.
P.S Setsuna was really the only one who had a solid reason to love Makoto, and at first she was the bitch and Sekai seems to replace her O.o
How do you know the original intent of the anime series wasn't to end exactly the way it did?
Miswording sorry, I meant to say original mood. Like at the beginning of the story, how it was all actual haremy. I meant to end in the mood the anime started.
Oh, that would have been... well, more of the same, wouldn't it? :D
If there were parents, this series would have ended much sooner. Parents are often left out of the story, whether it's explained or not.
This is the first romantic comedy anime I've seen where parents are omitted entirely, especially when their roles could have played an integral part in the plot.
Yeah, except for the murderous ending, everything is plausible in real life.
Ha ha, right. Let me clue you in on the real world: a lot of the actions portrayed in this anime, while plausible to some degree actually have consequences. Each and every traumatic event that occurred in this anime yielded almost no consequences. Even when Makoto's behavior and attitude started catching up with him, there's no real satisfaction on the viewer's part because:
A) Every girl had different, somewhat eschewed reasons to break contact with him, and most of them seemed to totally disregard the fact that he was a complete manwhore.
B) It takes forever. Otome knew he was sleeping around and was involved one or two other girls, yet for some reason, she decided to start a relationship with him. Smart girl. Kotonoha is so in love with him/insane that she disregards his infidelity and indifference toward her. Sekai keeps ignoring the fact that he hasn't broken up with Kotonoha and flaunts him in front of everyone like they're some sort of normal couple. As if this doesn't sound stupid enough on paper, imagine what I had to go through watching it.
I know this is an anime and we're entitled to some suspension of disbelief, but it's really hard to omit a lot of the things that happened here. Even if we could just take a random guy in the US, highlight his high school life, and about half of this stuff would actually occur (though I very much doubt it because this shit is not normal), that still doesn't mean it would make a good anime. That just means the writer is very adept at making ineffective social commentary.
I saw a decent romantic comedy at the beginning, watched the deconstruction toward the middle, and felt cheated by the end. It came and went by almost as if it were just a really bad dream I woke up from and can't seem to forget.
You seem to live in a better world than me, then. It's all I'm saying.
I've seen and done somewhat similar and (in some cases) even worse things than Makoto, in my day - some did have dire consequences, while others... not so much. People are more resilient than you give them credit for.
And they do bad things.
DragoZERO
2010-08-13, 23:07
This is the first romantic comedy anime I've seen where parents are omitted entirely, especially when their roles could have played an integral part in the plot.You need to watch more series then. :p There are better ones, with much happier endings out there. Some of parents that are like children most of the time, neglect the child, there is a legit reason for there being no parents or are just MIA like in this series. Would you like some recommendations?
You seem to live in a better world than me, then. It's all I'm saying.
I've seen and done somewhat similar and (in some cases) even worse things than Makoto, in my day - some did have dire consequences, while others... not so much. People are more resilient than you give them credit for.
And they do bad things.Indeed, you have seen a lot more than us. Humans are capable of many, many things.
Indeed, you have seen a lot more than us. Humans are capable of many, many things.
Beto, you've just been called old in an indiscreet manner :p :heh:
Nothing in this series was really all that unbelievable (except for the fact that there were no parents in this series but that's the case for other animes as well.) I've seen girls go back to the same guy after being cheated on various times, it's just the truth of the matter.
Even so, this series was disappointing to say the least :rolleyes:
Beto, you've just been called old in an indiscreet manner :p :heh:
Yeah, I noticed. But, alas, it is the truth. :p
Dr. Casey
2010-08-14, 15:50
A) Every girl had different, somewhat eschewed reasons to break contact with him, and most of them seemed to totally disregard the fact that he was a complete manwhore.
B) It takes forever. Otome knew he was sleeping around and was involved one or two other girls, yet for some reason, she decided to start a relationship with him. Smart girl. Kotonoha is so in love with him/insane that she disregards his infidelity and indifference toward her. Sekai keeps ignoring the fact that he hasn't broken up with Kotonoha and flaunts him in front of everyone like they're some sort of normal couple. As if this doesn't sound stupid enough on paper, imagine what I had to go through watching it.
I think that Kotonoha's obstination is perfectly logical and consistent with her character, she's just a lonely, friendless girl that got overly attached to someone she thought cared about her, and since she's a very gentle pushover without much self-respect, she cares more about continuing to get that attention she became dependent on than being treated completely fairly or right. As for Sekai, she does try to keep their relationship hidden at first. She doesn't begin to relax and her guilt doesn't begin to dissolve until the confrontation with Katsura outside Makoto's apartment (The last time she shows any kind of guilt being her talk with Setsuna at the beginning of episode 8). She doesn't begin to act open with their relationship until episode 9, if I remember right, which is probably a combination of the fact that Kotonoha is now aware of the situation and free to respond, and that since Makoto has given both girls a pretty equal amount of his time and attention by that point, they're on more equal footing and Sekai considers herself to have a claim as well, she's not just the 'other girl' anymore.
StealthyGhost
2010-08-18, 10:56
I just registered in there for some reasons, first is to look for some good animes, and the second is simply that I really wanted to give my opinion on School Days.
So here it is. At the beginning of this anime, I thought it would be a really nice romance anime, I was almost in love with this anime. But when i finally found that Mokoto was just a jerk looking for sex and didn't even care about the pain he was causing, i just started to think "Oh crap, it's no more a romance anime, it's just a freaking anime, where there's sex and is going to turn to drama..." and so, at the end, it was evident that it would turn to drama, Sekai killed Mokoto and was killed by Kotonoha.
So in average of this anime, i gave a 5/10 because, it's true that I totally hated the second half of this anime but, I really loved the beginning, so I gave half the greatest note, because half the anime was perfect and the second half was just a failure in my mind^^
So it was my opinion on this anime.
StealthyGhost
2010-08-18, 10:59
Oh and I forgot to tell you, I hope I don't have a too poor english, and if so, I'm sorry, english isn't my main language so I still don't master it^^
i just watched this because it was mentioned somewhere.. and sounded interesting..
in the end this worst pos i have ever seen... -1 is not enough as some have mentioned... wow.. i had to sit through comericals for this shit too...
coderlan
2010-08-29, 09:00
ahh more than a year has passed since i watch it,, i miss it, so I am re-watching it again... so nostalgic.
ahh more than a year has passed since i watch it,, i miss it, so I am re-watching it again... so nostalgic.
are you a masochist? must be because their is no reason to ever see this pos ever again...
i need a eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, mind purge so i can forget this shit...
Mr. Wang
2010-08-29, 17:15
I wouldn't say masochistic. I mean, School Days tells a very, very dramatic story and turns of events that seem to sometimes corrupt people in real life. A sort of dark underbelly to high school romances, if you will. Though I myself felt horrified at the ending, I thought it to be a very tragic story, especially considering how at the beginning of the story, Makoto was simply just a normal guy. Hell, I thought there were a couple parts where he acted very much like myself early on. And yet, something as simple as a phone wallpaper and a crush unleashed all this future chaos. I ended up playing the visual novel, just so I could get a happy ending and a clearer conscious...
I might be something of a romanticist, but if this story is any indication of anything, it's that... "love" or the illusion of love (often tossed around with lust), can bring out the best, and worst in all of us...
coderlan
2010-08-30, 00:01
are you a masochist? must be because their is no reason to ever see this pos ever again...
i need a eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, mind purge so i can forget this shit...
i actually missed everything... and I just realized that Makoto is more dumber than last time... and of course the other characters are as shit as him too.
roriconfan
2010-08-30, 02:11
If anything, this series proved that the audience likes indesicive dorks who find sex to be like cancer and girls who forgive the dork no matter if he cheats them. Because, hm, having sex is bad and girls being violent because they hate the guy is unthinkable.
...Yeah, right...
Anyways, 6/10 from me for being rather original.
DragoZERO
2010-08-30, 20:49
are you a masochist? must be because their is no reason to ever see this pos ever again...
i need a eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, mind purge so i can forget this shit...
I wouldn't call it shit but I could never watch this again. I don't think my heart or mind could take it again.
If anything, this series proved that the audience likes indesicive dorks who find sex to be like cancer and girls who forgive the dork no matter if he cheats them. Because, hm, having sex is bad and girls being violent because they hate the guy is unthinkable.
...Yeah, right...
Anyways, 6/10 from me for being rather original.
Are you serious? You don't have to be an indecisive dork to keep from doing what Makoto did. Having sex isn't the problem, it's his rampant cheating and indifference, especially considering he gets himself emotionally involved with two girls who are clearly in love with him, but can only seem to focus on finding another place to put his dick. He's not even cool or charming about it, he's just desperate, hopeless, and idiotic.
He doesn't even have the charisma to make it seem like he's some sort of alpha male, he's just some fucking idiot that runs into pussy and ruins every relationship he has to get to it. Why would you want to watch an entire anime about that?
Dr. Casey
2010-08-31, 15:55
Maybe I'm just an angst addict, but I'm always confused whenever people say they hate School Days because of the drama and most of the characters making immoral decisions and slowly self-destructing until they're just bitter, depressed shadows of their former selves. That's what makes the show so good.
Marcus H.
2010-08-31, 19:45
Good becomes a subjective word when talking about School Days.
Good and bad are always subjective.
Dr. Casey
2010-08-31, 21:06
Except with School Days, in which case the word 'good' becomes objective and 'bad' becomes a flat-out lie. Greatest anime ever made, I vote we ban everyone who voted below a 7.
Mr. Wang
2010-08-31, 21:46
Look, I only expected angst to show, because of the infamous "bad endings" from the Visual Novel. And damn it, they showed a pretty bad ending to this. And not in an unproductive way. It was a dark, and rather tragic story of some innocent people being dragged into a corrupt and completely degrading scenario. As I said, "love" or the illusion of love, brings out the best and worst of us. School Days just delivered a dark and chilling side to high school romance many others would simply leave alone. We can all say that we end up disliking the ending. Hell, I wouldn't watch it again. But that doesn't mean I'll outright disregard its view on telling the story. And School Days is certainly an interesting tale in what it represents. It... simply wouldn't be for the faint of heart, I suppose.
And let's be honest... Would this anime have been made better if it had just been your typical high school romance? I wouldn't think so. And I'm actually into that crap. :heh:
Maybe I'm just an angst addict, but I'm always confused whenever people say they hate School Days because of the drama and most of the characters making immoral decisions and slowly self-destructing until they're just bitter, depressed shadows of their former selves. That's what makes the show so good.
Good shows actually take these kinds of things in a meaningful direction. There are common storyline scenarios where one dude has it all, loses it, and has a life-changing revelation, but...they didn't do anything here. Makoto dies without learning his lesson and no one really learns of what happens, so it's almost as if it didn't happen at all.
Would this anime have been made better if it had just been your typical high school romance
That's a loaded question. School Days didn't have to be a 'typical' high school romance, as it had the potential to be unique without being completely fucking horrible. Why they decided to get rid of Setsuna was beyond me, she was the best part of the show.
coderlan
2010-09-01, 04:58
Just finished rewatching this and I don't have that "first time" feeling... all was NUMB.
roriconfan
2010-09-01, 05:54
Are you serious? You don't have to be an indecisive dork to keep from doing what Makoto did. Having sex isn't the problem, it's his rampant cheating and indifference, especially considering he gets himself emotionally involved with two girls who are clearly in love with him, but can only seem to focus on finding another place to put his dick. He's not even cool or charming about it, he's just desperate, hopeless, and idiotic.
As I said in the previous post, Makoto sort of characters ain't any better than Keitarou (Love Hina main male) type of characters. Both all polarized sides of the same problem. One doesn't care and goes for it, the other doesn't have the balls to do anything significant. Only difference is, Makoto gets trashed by viewers for getting what he deserved, while the Keitarou archetype gets deified for allowing silly shipping wars (not much in Love Hina but in most other harems). And guess what, he also gets what he deserves in the end. He remains a virgin for life, being mistreated by girls as reward (not Keitarou; he gets the girl after the billionth smack down).
He doesn't even have the charisma to make it seem like he's some sort of alpha male, he's just some fucking idiot that runs into pussy and ruins every relationship he has to get to it. Why would you want to watch an entire anime about that?
Oh I see, you dislike him for not getting all the girls to beg for his c0k, like in an average eroge. I see, he wasn't a fUk stud. He was unlike the norm, a loser who gets some pUsi. Terrible break of stereotypes there.
So the only issue here is most viewers not liking Makoto for being a not-good-hearted-character or a fUk stud. Which is silly because most interesting anime characters are not the boy scout types of old cartoons and not put to death stereotypes.
Let's be honest; Makoto gets trashed, and along with him this entire anime for the followin reasons:
1) He has sex
2) He is not gay
3) He is not bijin enough
4) He is not a stereotype
5) He gets puninshed in the end (no hopes of getting more of him in a possible sequel)
6) There is no shipping war
DragoZERO
2010-09-01, 07:11
What bothers me so much about School Days is the why it bothers me. It bothers me because it was good. If the anime sucked, I would not have felt the character's struggles, not felt their angst or anything. It is the subject matter and characters that have me hate it so.
For me, School Days is so bad because it is so good.
There is a compliment in there, somewhere, I think. :p
this show would have been better if it was a comedy.. with makato having pop up screen show up every time he meet a girl that had three options all of them "put it in"
this show was already horrible, and became even more ridiculous when the threesome happend.. by that time they were just trolling...
Eternal_Sin
2010-09-03, 05:21
Unique ending
It's so realistic
10/10
Perfect 10 ..
For The Pervs ..
ricchan23
2010-09-16, 20:33
School days...
:twitch:wtfi'mwatching.jpg.....:twitch:
it's start with romance which i think it will be a nice story..
but, what the **** i'm watching on episode 5 until 12??
i think makoto deserve to die...
i don't like a man like him....
at last,i saw blood....:hyper-^v^:
i like this anime because the guro scene at the ending......:heehee:
8/10
School days...
:twitch:wtfi'mwatching.jpg.....:twitch:
it's start with romance which i think it will be a nice story..
but, what the **** i'm watching on episode 5 until 12??
i think makoto deserve to die...
i don't like a man like him....
at last,i saw blood....:hyper-^v^:
i like this anime because the guro scene at the ending......:heehee:
8/10
What you were watching from episode 5 to 12, was Makoto being a pimp, and getting laid by any girls he can get his hands on before dying by a Yandere :heh:
ricchan23
2010-09-22, 01:03
What you were watching from episode 5 to 12, was Makoto being a pimp, and getting laid by any girls he can get his hands on before dying by a Yandere :heh:
this thing make me sick....:frustrated:
first i thought that makoto will be a nice boy and will forever happy with kotonoha...
but what the hell......
:nono:
this thing make me sick....:frustrated:
first i thought that makoto will be a nice boy and will forever happy with kotonoha...
but what the hell......
:nono:
Its creepy what guys think most of the times.. But Makoto went completely off the path of manhood in this anime.
Mr. Wang
2010-09-25, 23:24
this thing make me sick....:frustrated:
first i thought that makoto will be a nice boy and will forever happy with kotonoha...
but what the hell......
:nono:
Believe me, that's what I wanted to happen. I played the VN first, and when I heard there was an anime, I knew that they would focus on the bad endings, considering that said endings overshadowed everything else about the game, in terms of just how surprising everything was.
I don't want to say Makoto wouldn't be irredeemable, but good lord... to think I actually used to compare myself to him... at least before he turned into an ass.
Just from watching the whole episodes, and my first reaction was kind of WTF???
Kotonoha was so nice girl, I fell in love with her from the first time I saw her reading book in a train! So what the hell this jerk deceived her (and enormous number of other girls)?? After the fifth or sixth episode I started to pray to somebody kill that pathetic idiot.
And guess what? My prayers were answered! Thanks to Sekai (even though I didn't like her so much through the series). But...but...Kotonoha...why? I so sympathise for her..
Hell, what was that. I can't find the words to express all my thoughts about this messy story.
5/10 - five points I'm giving only to Katsura
Mr. Wang
2010-10-20, 14:23
^ I played the visual novel prior to watching the anime. I knew that this whole thing would be a bad ending, though I have to agree with you: I love Kotonoha also, and I felt as though I was just watching the series because I was a big enough fanboy for here... I think that that's a but obvious given my signature, and avatar. Anyway, yeah, I found it disgusting just how much Makoto had degraded as the series went on. While I was indeed shocked, and I felt somewhat bad (maybe I personally thought murder was a bit extreme), all of us can pretty much agree we felt some degree of satisfaction at Makoto's end.
Oh, Kotonoha... why'd you have to fall in love with a complete sex-addicted jackass? Just look where that all ended up... :T_T:
all of us can pretty much agree we felt some degree of satisfaction at Makoto's end.
You just can't imagine how satisfied I was, when Sekai smashed his damned body by that lovely knife :D
Oh, Kotonoha... why'd you have to fall in love with a complete sex-addicted jackass? Just look where that all ended up...
you're so damn right T_T
all of us can pretty much agree we felt some degree of satisfaction at Makoto's end.
No, not all of us.
Mr. Wang
2010-10-20, 17:14
No, not all of us.
Well, I respect that opinion, perhaps it wasn't a good choice of words on my part. I don't think Makoto deserved it, he should have gotten a more... just end, but at the moment when I saw him get stabbed, I was still pissed off at him for everything messed up he's done. Do I think he should have died? No, he could have at least been... castrated, or sent to a sex-addict rehab center or something less extreme as his untimely fate... :heh: If only solving his problems would be that easy though. I know at one point or another, some of us just said, "God, I wish Makoto would just die already." Granted, I had one of those moments, though the manner in which it actually came true and was delivered in this anime did shock me a bit... I thought Makoto's death sucked, though it was difficult for me to feel sorry for him at that point.
wow~ that was a total waste of time!
anyway the only thing I have to say is~
GROSS!
made me want to puke and take a shit at it!
well that only my opinion so~ no hard feelings
*3*
I think people are very immature in watching and rating this series (No disrespect okay). I rewatched it again today and had a good view of the story. It really fleshed out the mistake of having two girlfriends at the same time, and the danger of having a harem. Watching this, it (should) had the slice of life genre so this can really happen in our lives. It showed the difference between "love" and "sex", that sexual desires are different from romantic desires. It also showed dilemma of friendship and love. And what amaze me is that it gives us a lesson. Anime these days are lacking this type of stories where it whammed you to the head, make you emotional (RAGING to characters' stupidity), only to realize that it gives us a warning, about relationships, that trust and faith are important.
It really gave me a feeling of watching True Tears and Code Geass, the unpredictability when I first watch it gave me a powerful impact that it affected my system. Then I realize, that's how the story want you to feel. RAGE and stuff to the characters. That's how great this series is. From what I read from people commented, it all left us a "mark". Definitely, we try to forget this but until now we can't, because of how bad happen to the characters that it left us all wounds in our system. And that's why I'm giving kudos to Overflow and TNK for giving us "A Story To Remember" or shall I say "A Body To Dismember". Hehehe. NICE BOAT for everyone. 10/10.
Edit: Just want to say that the "End justified the means".
To be honest I just watched the first and last episode, and that's about all she wrote.
fize4ever
2010-12-02, 09:15
The show delivers several points in a rather "extreme" manner. For the people who already understand and adheres to said points on day to day basis, they will find the show extremely ridiculous and idiotic. Unfortunately, I was raised with such morals, so I just found what they're doing is childish to the core.
2, for wasting my time completely. The 1+ was just for those hot scenes, that is all.
Cabrini6000
2010-12-05, 22:41
The whole show was pretty boring, except, of course,the ending. I was actually very happy when Makoto died. However, even though I hate all the characters with equal passion from this show, It was kinda disturbing when Sekai died, and then that nice boat scene...:twitch:
kotonoha ws so nice . . and how come she became a killer?
her life ws simple until she met that shit-ass makoto . . she changed o.O just bcoz fr a boy? no . .
dolbie158
2011-02-24, 01:15
i have not hated the main characters this much since death note, i trudged through watching the series hoping there would some kind of redemption to no avail. did they deserve to die, no, maybe a long hospital stay for both makoto and sekai after kotonoha beat they crap out of both of them would have been enough, personally even setsuna deserved a hospital bed herself. when i watch this type of anime (or manga or game) if the central character turns into a piece of s**t i normally would just route for something bad to happen to them. unlike other characters who are to shy or nervous, who get pushed around and put in the work until finally getting the girl, that makes them endearing........... I take it back, i'm glad they died, i just wish poor kotonoha hadn't gotten blood on her hands
I don't know where to start. First off, what's the point of showing viewers this crap? There is nothing, absolutely nothing, in the storyline that's sensible. I mean, why would any girl fall for a guy like Makoto knowing that he just wants sex? The whole series is joke. There's not glimpse of any character using COMMON SENSE. The only point in the anime where I thought any of the characters did use their common sense was in the last episode. To me, the last episode was just a coverup for the mess of the rest of the episodes. And I don't think I have ever laughed, while watching an anime or any other form of entertainment for that matter, while somebody was been killed.
Dr. Casey
2011-09-24, 23:59
I don't know where to start. First off, what's the point of showing viewers this crap? There is nothing, absolutely nothing, in the storyline that's sensible. I mean, why would any girl fall for a guy like Makoto knowing that he just wants sex? The whole series is joke. There's not glimpse of any character using COMMON SENSE. The only point in the anime where I thought any of the characters did use their common sense was in the last episode. To me, the last episode was just a coverup for the mess of the rest of the episodes. And I don't think I have ever laughed, while watching an anime or any other form of entertainment for that matter, while somebody was been killed.
sigh
I would leave my response at that, but AnimeSuki insists that posts be 10 characters, so I'll just point out that none of the girls who fell for Makoto knew that he was only interested in sex (In part because he wasn't only interested in sex); Kotonoha and Sekai certainly didn't have any inklings of the sort, and the girls that thought of him as a sex fiend - Hikari, the three girls, etc - were only interested in him for a quick lay anyhow. Otome's the only girl that you could really argue as being an idiot for starting a relationship with him... Kotonoha had no reasons to doubt his sincerity whenever they started dating, Sekai had ample reason to hold faith in Makoto because he wasn't really a terrible human being yet whenever they first had sex, and the other girls weren't in love with him to begin with.
edit: Just realized I forgot about Setsuna. Oh well, too lazy to edit my post.
I'll just point out that none of the girls who fell for Makoto knew that he was only interested in sex (In part because he wasn't only interested in sex).
Kotonoha had no reasons to doubt his sincerity whenever they started dating.
Sekai had ample reason to hold faith in Makoto because he wasn't really a terrible human being yet whenever they first had sex.
Yeah, right. He wasn't only interested in sex. He was interested in discussing politics with the girls that he invited/came to his house.
What about the little incident where she overheard Makoto confessing his *love* to Sekai?
You do realize that I was talking about the entire 12 episodes.
Dr. Casey
2011-09-25, 00:37
Yeah, right. He wasn't only interested in sex. He was interested in discussing politics with the girls that he invited/came to his house.
What about the little incident where she overheard Makoto confessing his *love* to Sekai?
You do realize that I was talking about the entire 12 episodes.
Yeah, he was only interested in sex with them, but with Kotonoha and Sekai he wasn't interested solely in sex. He placed a major emphasis on physical intimacy and didn't want a relationship without it, but he wasn't completely disinterested in romance. With Kotonoha, he was pretty much okay with things being purely romantic at the start; the problem was that things didn't accelerate as quickly as he believed they should.
Yeah, but that was in episode six. I was responding to your claim that it was ridiculous for any of the girls to fall in love with Makoto in the first place. At the time Kotonoha first became interested in Makoto - that is, shortly before the first episode - he didn't yet have any strikes against his character.
I see... School Days is a masterpiece, though, a miracle of the universe, so you're still wrong for thinking it's bad.
I see... School Days is a masterpiece, though, a miracle of the universe, so you're still wrong for thinking it's bad.
If it's a masterpiece, how do you explain that the second highest no. of votes has gone to a rating of -1?
Dr. Casey
2011-09-25, 00:53
They're probably just jealous of the writers and lashing out against them because they know that it's impossible to craft a story better than School Days.
You realize that you're just being stubborn.
I can agree that tastes differ but, saying that School Days has the best story line - when many think(including me) that it doesn't have a story line at all - is really an overstatement to the point of absurdness.
Dr. Casey
2011-09-25, 01:08
Ah, I'm just playing around; I'm too tired to entertain a lengthy debate. I do think School Days is an excellently-written story, though. :p
Out of curiosity, did you like any of the characters in School Days? Or was their irrationality enough to make you not care for any of them at all?
I thought so.
Tough Question. My friend asked me that too - he's also a big fan of SD.
Answer's no. There wasn't a single character that made sense to me.
Mr. Wang
2011-09-27, 13:40
Humanity doesn't make sense. What a concept for an anime...
That aside however, I still think that the anime was good. Heartbreakingly so, though... And I'm not gonna say that it's the best storyline for an anime. Sorry, Dr. Casey.
However unrealistic it may seem, I still know that under certain stressful scenarios and whatnot, rational human beings can go to irrational deep ends. This anime... certainly took a dark twist on psyche.
Still though, School Days was a VN, one that was infamously known for its bad ends, and those overshadowed everything about it that the anime had to include one. Disappointing, though not really surprising that they couldn't emphasize the other aspects of School Days. Hell, the Manga was actually nicely-written compared to the... ahem, troll-fest (I admit it, I'm sorry) that was the anime...
ArrowSmith
2013-06-02, 18:05
My fundamental problem is with Makoto. He's just a totally boring, uninteresting guy. He literally exists from sexual hookup to sexual hookup. He has no interests. He is not interested in just hanging out with Sekai and talking to her, or going to the park or something. Just sex, sex and more sex.
ArrowSmith
2013-06-03, 00:37
Still you want the fucked up anime in history? It's not this. Either Genocyber or "End of Evangelion" for sheer fucked-up-ness.
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