Clannad - Episode 7 Discussion / Poll

[monir]

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[toxic_trance]

YESSSS... I am the first to post again ^_^

Blow me away with this CLANNAD..I know u can silence all ur critics...I want to cry my heart out on this one

Fuko..LIVE PLEASE

:bow: Kotomi-chan :bow:

[Owaranai Destiny]

Critics? Man...I really need to get in here more. So far I find it going well.

If the title was any indication, I just hope that we can find out the real reason why Fuko can't be seen by her sister, as well as more Kotomi-chan. :D

[Seska]

Critics? Man...I really need to get in here more. So far I find it going well.

If the title was any indication, I just hope that we can find out the real reason why Fuko can't be seen by her sister, as well as more Kotomi-chan. :D

Perhaps Fuko is a real person, and only her Older Sister has a Trauma, that don't let her see her younger sister? Perhaps she was the Car driver at that time and now filled with guilty?

[toxic_trance]

That theory actually makes sense..but then again...Fuko recalls herself being in school all the time..so i guess we cant accept it. Although, it is true that Ibuki sensei does have the traumatized look

By the way...will Kotomi-chan be like Mai of Kanon, always telling the lead ie Tomoya of where a trouble may be lying. As in Mai did know that Ayu and Makoto are not what they seem to be

Neway..another important development i m waitin for is the establshment of the Drama Club. I think it is pretty obvious that Tomoyo, Kyou, Ryou, and Kotomi-chan are the eventual members. So hopin to see that soon too :)

[Kaioshin Sama]

YESSSS... I am the first to post again ^_^

Blow me away with this CLANNAD..I know u can silence all ur critics...I want to cry my heart out on this one

Fuko..LIVE PLEASE

:bow: Kotomi-chan :bow:

This is KEY you're talking about. I wouldn't hold my breath on that.

[Itadakimasu!]

Well from the preview it doesn't seem like there's going to be anything climactic happening...so I don't think you'll be crying into your beer just yet

[Klashikari]

let's see...

Episode 7: bullet summary and screencaps
(http://animehistory.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/clannad-episode-7/)

[Zarn]

I kinda hope there would be less Fuko and more Tomoya x Nagisa this time, but that's just me :)

[Cyz]

Screenshots (http://http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/11/15/clannad-07/) of ep. 7 courtesy of Random Curiosity. Pls. look at it at your own risk ya? :blush:

--> :topicoff: I won't be watching this one for a while, I had to wait 'till next week together with the ep. 8 to watch it since I don't have my laptop yet :nod:

[Shiroth]

I kinda hope there would be less Fuko and more Tomoya x Nagisa this time, but that's just me :)
We're in the middle of Fuko's arc --- asking for more Tomoya x Nagisa time then we already get is asking a lot.

[Rhyel]

All of us need more Tomoyo and Kotomi, these two until now had a small participation.

[Seska]

Uh oh, looks like we are running into the Secret of Fuko appearances...


..Fuko's Sister call out her name...

[Zarn]

We're in the middle of Fuko's arc --- asking for more Tomoya x Nagisa time then we already get is asking a lot.
Dunno, I'm getting the impression that any more episodes filled with starfish fun and Ibuki-sensei would make it too boring for some to watch, including myself. Not the time to judge, though :)

[Shiroth]

Having the track 'Uminari ni' play for the Nagisa and Tomoya tears scenes was a wonderful choice. Yes it was the scene it's self that had me in tears, though using that track adds so much more to it.

[Kang Seung Jae]

Excellent episode. My favorite part:

Tomoya: Kotomi-chan~~~.

Kotomi: Tomoya-kun?

Tomoya: Why is it that I have to call you that way for you to hear....

Fuko: What kind of relations do you have?!?!


Also, Fuko Fan Club is awesome, lol.

[Moridin]

Good episode. But Im going to wait to vote untile I have seen the subed version. A couple of big story developments and, ofcourse, some great laughs. I dont know if it was because of the story/plot, but if felt like this episode had fewer jokes/laughs in it then the couple of previous episodes.
I really liked your idea Seska, it would make a good story. However, I belive that it isnt like that, since there was some things happening that would make what you suggested impossible.
Im starting to get a little worried about Fuko... when the series started i was thinking that maybe her story would finish happily, but now im not so sure anymore. And, what is "happily" anyway? I mean, if fuko wakes up, and the "dream/ghost fuko" has to go away/"die", would that be a happy ending the her story? If the awaken Fuko cant remember what has happend in school (since she never experienced it), would it still be a "happy" ending? I dont think so :( I dont think that the Fuko we are used to, will be the same as the one that might, or might not, wake up. I will miss Ghost Fuko, whatever happens.

[Proto]

Here we go, serious mode. Despite the laughs in the middle part of the episode, Fuuko's story is entering its main part, and it's starting to diverge from the Minagi/Ayu molds it seemed to come from. The build up continues to be top-notch, I just hope the epilogue is worth it :)

[Kaioshin Sama]

Who wants to entertain my theory that:

Fuko's tendency to emit random barking noises and her childish happy go luck nature and the fact that some can't see her, is that she's somehow actually one of those Chien, masquerading as a human. In other words. Don't ask me in what way, but I think of her as a small Bichon Frise to such a degree that it wouldn't surprise me in the least if she turned out to be one. Especially since it's KEY. I can picture her vanishing entirely only for to Tomoya to run across a small Inu with the nametag "Fuko" on it, figuring out that there was some sort of illusion going on.

[toxic_trance]

Well I havent seen this yet, waitin for the subs, but after skimming through the thread and avoiding any possible spoilers, seems like we have a good serious episode just as i had hoped for. Somehow the previews of next weeks are becomin unreliable, since they give u a totally opposite vibe of what is gonna happen next

Neway..waitin for the subs and :love: Kotomi-chan :love: airtime :)

[Leo_Otaku]

Quite good episode lots of good moments ^-^ Just wondering though how many eps will everyone else be getting then?

[velocity7]

Has anyone noticed? There's a light in the episode title:

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5687/ep07zx9.th.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ep07zx9.jpg)

[kct]

I actually BAWWWWWWWWWWWed at this episode, for sure.

Of course, lack of Kyou is one reason.

[Decagon]

My god. I thought I was going to have a heart attack when they started singing. They should have a warning message for exorbitant levels of moe. Fuuko's new skillup was a good laugh too. Lots of good small jokes in this one. Lots of fodder for the MAD makers.

Then there's what comes after that. That was good too.

[toxic_trance]

WHY HASNT ANYTHING BEEN RELEASED :frustrated:

Kurushi desu~

Well...somethin says that this episode is very good..and its gettin too painful to wait...takin out all my frustration out in this post

BTW..how much airtime does :love: Kotomi-chan :love: get in this episode????

[velocity7]

It's because people aren't patient. But, anyways... :heh:

Yes, this episode was full of funny stuff. Especially liked the Fuuko Master and the, "It's actually a starfish." followed by the entire class faceslamming. :heh:

I also loved Kotomi's scene where she was like, "A bully?"

[Kinny Riddle]

Congratulations to Fuuko on reaching Fuuko Master (at the expense of poor Sunohara).

(Come to think of it, Sunohara has set the series record of being beaten up by the most girls so far: Tomoyo, Kyou, Misae-san, and now Fuuko. )

Fuuko makes good use of her fanclub (again at the expense of Sunohara), as well as pure moe at failing horribly at the "Tokyo Tokyou Kyoukakyoku" tongue twister (Nonaka Ai must be applauded at her "failing" attempt).

Now with that and other comedy elements that are part of the essence of her character out of the way, the Fuuko story enters its climax next episode, and we're still at episode 8. (Makoto's story lasted till episode 10, unexpectedly creating a lot of time constraints later on for Kyo-Ani as Kanon progressed. )

Despite being labelled a delinquent, Koumura (the old teacher) seemed relatively friendly and lenient towards Tomoya, even though Tomoya was rather lax when it came to grammar usage. Students are supposed to use the more deferential "keigo" when speaking to seniors like teachers, but Tomoya spoke to Koumura in a more informal grammar normally reserved for friends and close relatives. Let's just say he's a bit like Anzai-sensei in Slam Dunk.

Already people are beginning to forget Fuuko's existence the moment Kouko-san said Fuuko might not ever wake up anymore. Reminder to self not to watch Shana while reading Fuuko's story if I ever get the chance to re-read it, since I'm getting all the wrong ideas.

I believe it was after hearing her sister promising Tomoya that she will marry Yuusuke that she believes she has accomplished her task. All that's left is to distribute whatever remaining starfish there are left and she can go in peace. Though it's still open-ended as to whether she'll ever wake up.

[Shiroth]

I also loved Kotomi's scene where she was like, "A bully?"
I quite liked Tomoya's "KotomiKotomiKotomi~".

[endlezz]

Very good episode indeed. The Nagisa vs. Fuko battle was highly amusing, expecially when they started to sing :)
Liked how they displayed even Okazaki spilling some tears and how Sunohara is getting a clue on what is happening all by himself. He really is one of the best secondary-male in bishoujo Anime-

[frustra]

excellent episode packed with well-placed humor and LOL moments and a cliffhanger that leaves the viewer wanting for more. 9

[Seska]

Indeed, even i burst out in laughing by the Scene after the Fuko's spaceout. And her reaction to Sunohara face:) Combined with this effect.. i nearly feels of the chair and hold my stomach because of laughing :)

[Kristen]

Poor Sunohara...

Overall, another great episode. Judging from episode titles, it looks like the Fuuko arc has 2 more episodes. I'm not even going to ask how Kyoto is planning on pacing this, and just enjoy it while it lasts.

And finally, this show has gotten depressing. I wonder if it can have more of an impact than Makoto of Kanon.

[Shiroth]

Watching it again with subs, and i still can't get over how powerful the crying scene was. Like i said before, having the BGM 'Uminari ni' start to play the second Kouko finished what she had to say about Fuuko in the hospital, it worked perfectly.

[Joachim]

^ agreed, man that scene was quite a tear jerker = ( first episode i gave ten for good bgm choice and in fact it hit me quite hard during the first half and near the end

[Ascaloth]

Watched the TWH-Sprocket sub of Ep07.

A strong start built from the climax of Ep06, a recess break of excellent comedy in the middle, and then a total blindside that shoots straight into the heart. Excellent stuff.

If I don't give this episode a perfect 10, I will never forgive myself. So 10 it is.

Blog article coming tomorrow morning. I'm going to sleep now.

[toxic_trance]

SS-Eclipse Sub out ^_^

[Divini]

Timing analysis is finished:


Main Char / Supporting Char[TH]
Okazaki Tomoya
Ibuki Fuko
Furukawa Nagisa
Ibuki Kouko
Sunohara Youhei
Ichinose Kotomi
Koumura-sensei
Botan
18:05
14:43
13:40
8:11
6:44
1:29
1:25
0:14

* First episode where Nagisa isn't 2nd


Main Char / Supporting Char
Okazaki Tomoya
Furukawa Nagisa
Ibuki Fuko
Sunohara Youhei
Fujibayashi Ryou
Fujibayashi Kyou
Ibuki Kouko
Sakagami Tomoyo
Furukawa Sanae
Furukawa Akio
(Mysterious Girl / Voice)
Ichinose Kotomi
Miyazawa Yukine
Yoshino Yuuske
Botan
Koumura-sensei
Mitsui
Tomoya no Otou-san
Sagara Misae2:20:07
1:26:44
52:56
39:47
14:39
13:22
13:14
11:18
10:19
6:17
4:46
4:19
2:38
2:37
2:34
1:38
1:32
1:05
1:01





This is the first episode that brought out tears from me, not once, but twice. The conversation with the 'invisble' Fuko in the beginning and Ibuki-sensei's revelation coupled with the bgm music near the end made those scenes have an emotionally powerful impact.

Despite the emotional scenes, they still managed to add very fitting (and funny!) humor in the episode while advancing the plot in a good pace. Very very good episode. 10/10 for me.

[Mirrinus]

Great episode. I must say, I am absolutely loving the background music for this show, way more than most other shows I watch (and it's not just for the emotional scenes, either). Somehow, this episode can both make me laugh out loud yet also instill anxiety and suspense over the characters. Nice, very nice.

Next episode's title certainly is ominous...

[Shadowfox79]

I really liked this episode, more drama than humor this time, which is a good thing, though one of the great LOL moments was when Fuko woke up from her trance and started poking Sunohara, then smacking him around with her starfish. Great times!

Also another good thing, I remembered a few episodes ago that we were all talking about how Sunohara so far is playing the comic relief role, but hoped that he would have a more serious role. Seems like this episode started showing that as he was the one at the end of the episode, since he's the one that found out about people forgetting about Fuko. If the animators wanted him purely for comic relief, they wouldn't put up Sunohara in that situation. Well i guess this is to be expected with the arc going into a dramatic climax for next week.

[FlareKnight]

Well Sunohara added a new dimension to the starfish by seeing them as shuriken. Poor guy gets beaten by the girls quite a bit and gets instantly rejected by Nagisa :). Oh well I guess if he can handle the kciking assaults from Tomoyo then some starfish smashing to the face could be handled.

He did play a more serious role at the end being the guy who found out people were forgetting Fuko. I'm sure he as much as anyone wants to know what's up and may get brought into the loop about Fuko. Not a good sign that people she barely interacted with aside from handing out a starfish are forgetting. They probably need that wedding soon before she vanishes from everyone's recollection.

Certainly an emotional episode and we can only wait and see.

[Takuto19]

Great episode, very emotional, just a shame we have to wait another week =/

But i was pleased and Kotomi being in this week heh :)

10/10

[deathreape98]

great episode, loved the part where fuko owned sunohara

10/10

[fuzzles]

good episode i can't bring myself to give a 10 in a fuko episode(sorry i'm bias) I really get the feeling that Fuko is gonna wake up and no one is going to remember her or a few people will remember her and she won't remember them. I highly doubt she'll die. buuut from the looks of it it all wraps up next week! and we can move on to better characters!

on another note i love sunohara!! <3333 xoxoxoxo he finally got somewhat of an emotional line

[Eviltape]

Every single episode is a "OH MY GOD. HOLY SHAT!" episode. Awesome stuff, isn't it?

I hope...
That Fuko doesn't become the Makoto of Kanon.
...but the preview says otherwise. Maybe it's something odd like Fuko's sister practicing welcoming her home?

[Ikonomi]

It sounded like Sanae welcoming Fuuko to me, but I'm horrrrrrriibble with voices so I could be very wrong.

But... This episode. Too sad to watch twice just now. Oh man, that crying is too much. That scene with Kouko's revelation about her sister's condition... gut-wrenching much? Terribly effective story-telling. I don't think I can wait a whole week for the next episode.

[komichi]

KyoAni is famous for animating some of the most powerful scene in the past with Air and Kannon 2006 and this week's Clannad did not disappoint.

The climax was extremely emotional yet it still retains the lightness of the mood that the show is upholding so far. Sunohara/Tomoya's scene at the end was really good of a cliffhanger. 10.

[X207]

darn, it looks like fuko might end up like makoto. sure hope that it doesnt end up like that.

[MingShun]

Hahaha,

Science lecture...

...rooster crowing

...chocobo rush

...Fuuko's crazy starfish on Sunohara's face looked like something from Mario

...and Fuuko Master.

I think I was laughing too hard to cry...

[todkapuz]

yea!!!!!!!!1 KOTOMI-CHAN~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"O-Hoshi-sama..."
"iya... hitode.."
"hitode? hitode ....[much starfish rambling]... ano hitode?"
"sugoi desu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I feel sorry for poor Fuuko.... :-/

all in all an enjoyable episode.... Nagisa is such a tearful girl....

[Sorrow-K]

I can't see this ending well for Fuko

I was sort of thinking along the same lines as Seska and others, that Fuko was in fact real, but Ibuki-sensei couldn't see her for some reason, relating to a past trauma, but I guess that's been blown out of the water by this ep.

As for this ep, my thought is "good", but not great, let alone perfect. I guess the emotional connection for Fuko just isn't there for me. I mean, her story is sad, but not BAAAW-worthy, IMO. Yet, anyway.

I lol'd a couple of times, but this wasn't as funny as some of the previous eps, and with good reason, since the comedy and tragedy shouldn't intermingle too closely, or else it'd ruin the mood.

[d.sinclair]

KyoAni is famous for animating some of the most powerful scene in the past with Air and Kannon 2006 and this week's Clannad did not disappoint.
Yup, yup. Not that they don't get enough praise (and a fair share of ire:rolleyes:), but I feel a lot of people overlook the great cinematography that Kyoani puts into their work. The shot of their backs during the crying scene was so powerful, along with the scene at the end. They really never fail to deliver at these crucial moments.

That being said, I do think this arc is a tad long. But I think they're trying to aim for a more relaxed atmosphere than Kanon, especially with all the comedy, so maybe it would be wise, for me at least, not to expect a flood of heavy drama from Clannad.

[Hunter Sock Monsters]

fantastic episode. its going to be really interesting to see where/how the Fuko arc ends, hopefully not sad like the ending of Air but I'm not holding my breath....

Starfish vs Big Dango Family was funnier than hell, I couldnt stop laughing!! :heh:

Sunohara being carried away by the Fuko fan club was amusing as well.

Botan with Starfish = major cuteness!!

The crying seen put a lump in my throat, it seems Key has a real talent for creating tear jerkers that really affect the audience, and thats a rare thing in any media forum.....

Though I do wonder at the end of the preview when Ibuki sensei said "welcome home Fuko" and we see feet stepping into shoes/slippers if that was Fuko getting of bed after awakening......

[KholdStare]

10/10

This is what I've been waiting for. That's all.

[Calawain]

9/10, good humor in this episode.

I'm ready to turn on the waterworks next episode.

They really need to wrap up the Fuko arc next episode so they have enough time for the other girls, assuming this will run 24-26 episodes.

[Kamui4356]

Another great episode. KyoAni is doing a great job pacing Fuko's arc, though it does make me a bit concerned about the rest of the series.

Anyway, despite the obvious similarity to Ayu, Fuko's story reminds me more of Makoto's. Hopefully, I'm mistaken there and we won't get a similar end to it though. I'm expecting a bittersweet ending here, but I'd really like to see a happy ending for Fuko. After Nagisa, she's my favorite character so far, though considering the amount of screen time she got, that shouldn't be completely suprising. :heh:

[mickal555]

Good episode!

Though I want to know what happens if Tomoya or Nagisa give something... Like a water bottle to Fuko when her sister is watching...

Does the water bottle disappear, or does it float, or what?

[Kang Seung Jae]

Though I do wonder at the end of the preview when Ibuki sensei said "welcome home Fuko" and we see feet stepping into shoes/slippers if that was Fuko getting of bed after awakening......

I thought that was Sanae's voice.

[OceanBlue]

I enjoyed the latter part of this episode more than the beginning. I'm getting tired of the constant comedy, so seriousness is refreshing for me. Especially since Sunohara isn't being kicked around, and actually is being serious for once. It just appealed to me more.

[Joachim]

i just like it when they show sunohara in his serious mode lol (maybe cos its refreshing to see that he can also be serious)

Koumura VA == FMP Fumoffu's school caretaker? (the one that went berserk after sousuke chop his koi fish and serve it as night dish)
maybe i'm wrong but hearing the similiarity, i was like reminded of fumoffu and kinda lol a bit while imagining koumura doing those crazy stunt

[Owaranai Destiny]

Afterthoughts on episode 7:

-The comedy is good as usual. 'Fuko Master' took the cake for all the 'Mastery' skills, especially since I can't imagine just how dumb/dense Sunohara can be to listen to Tomoya, the best friend who has tricked him time and again into making a fool out of himself. It isn't that much to complain about on the whole.

-The tongue twister was excellent too, and it seems as though there's another animal in my mind that I would add to being affiliated with Fuuko. ;)

-Face-fault=win. I find the imaginary scenarios slightly interesting but some of them forgettable.

-Kotomi time=pure win. :D The 'What relationship do you have?' and 'A bully?' as well as her 'explanation on the starfish' parts got me good.

-Was Okazaki Tomoya really a delinquent? He didn't seem the type to shed tears so easily, perhaps instead giving the impression that he would vent his frustration on something else or simply hold it in. Maybe it's part of his character development in which he changes completely from being 'bored with nothing to do' to someone willing to help others.

-I like how they played up the positive emotions throughout the episodes, then throw us viewers, Tomoya and Nagisa straight back into the pits. It does fall in sync with the roller-coaster ride concept. Frankly, the world just crashed down on Tomoya and Nagisa, even though perhaps Fuuko might have known what would happen in the end. If this keeps happening, I swear that there will be a group of people out there baying for the blood of the producers for the act of toying with the emotions of viewers and characters alike.


Nothing much or fresh, really, but the theory that I've been having all along is that the Fuuko we see is a manifestation of her dreams and thoughts as she laid in a coma, borne perhaps of the words that Kouko have been speaking to her all this while and of her last conscious desire to really go out there and make friends. This thoughts might have congregated at the last and best place she was at to make friends-Hikarizaka High-and formed her being.

Perhaps the point as to why she is getting forgotten might be attributed to the fact that the hope of making a recovery has disappeared from her dreams, or simply because her objective is close to being complete with the giving of starfish to others.



The preview was awfully long for that one scene with an orange-y backdrop, perhaps indicating sunset. That might be heralding the last joyful times for Tomoya and Nagisa to spend with Fuuko.

Of course, the title probably says most of it, and the welcoming of Fuuko back home might actually be something like having her stay in Kouko's new place instead of in the hospital or something, that she might be able to take care of her.

The path looks to be a treacherous one for Fuuko. With that said, I'll give this one a 9/10.

[Lilith]

Ep 07
Near the end, when Nagisa cries so hard that even Tomoya got teary... my God, I really felt their heartache. Yes, several good comedic bits here and there... but that scene is dominant.

Preview to next episode: "Welcome, Fuko-chan!"!! I really hope she wakes up. >_<

Though I want to know what happens if Tomoya or Nagisa give something... Like a water bottle to Fuko when her sister is watching...

Does the water bottle disappear, or does it float, or what?
:heh: LOL I know! Something similar happened already when Fuko grabbed Nagisa's sleeve, but I guess it's not that clear.

Last note: They talked to the old man who noticed that white flying-white-object! *rushes to speculatings thread*

[Kaioshin Sama]

I get that feeling again that I'm not quite as involved with the characters nor the anime as some others. I just can't go doling out the perfects, but this episode was at least good, without many of the annoyances I've found in past episodes/ An interesting distraction, a comforatable balance between comedy and drama (which I felt was lacking in previous episodes) tolerable levels of Sunohara (though by far one of the most annoying characters I've ever seen in an anime), and the promise of some solid melodrama to come make this a seven out of ten for me.

Forgive me if I seem indifferent to Fuko's plight though, but I really can't appreciate her much as a character with her basic trait being that she's moe to the extreme. That's not really enough for me. I feel that if the worst happens it will be like mourning the passing of a small animal. It will be sad as any death is, but there won't be any feeling of an extensive loss. I also have the same problem with Tomoya as I did with Yuuichi in Kanon, in that it's really hard to feel sympathy for him since he comes across as such a loathable character. I get that he has issues with his father and that he has unfilled dreams, but I still can't really like him much at all.

That's also probably the main issue I have with the series overall, is that the characters can't seem to make the transition between comedy and tragedy situations with their limited traits (save Nagisa). It takes seriously fleshed out personalities beyond what I'm seeing here for something like that to be possible. It's a flexibility issue and it's just not very believable within the context of the Clannad universe itself. At least from my point of view. Anyway I'll, cut that short since this is an episode discussion afterall, and end by saying that I'm starting to see a bit more potential developing in the show for it to at least be worth a lark. Series don't have to be masterful blends of character and drama to at least be watchable, so let's see what happens next.

[kyonkun]

What a powerful episode. I don't think I can see it more than twice.

The comedy was fantastic:
The Cute Smackdown involving Big Dango Family vs. Starfish.
Fuu-Fan Club to the rescue!
Wonder if Kotomi-chan's Starfish exclamation was lifted straight from the Japanese Wikipedia article :)
Fuu-chan's Death Strike of a Hundred Pokes. Poor Sunohara.
"It's a starfish!" scenarios were laugh out loud funny. They reminded me of the humor in Full Metal Panic Fumoffu!The tragedy was stomp-on-your-heart devastating:
Nagisa and Tomoya breaking down in front of the bench.
The sister asking Nagisa and Tomoya to become Fuu's friend when they meet her. You can see Nagisa just ready to cry out, "We're already doing that!" but holding in her reaction for Fuu's sake.
Sunohara's tone turning serious was effective. His transformation from one doesn't pay attention to others to one who shouted at others to pay attention to an underclassman was well done. Interesting how Sunohara is becoming like Kitagawa Jun from Kanon: simple comic relief in the beginning to a real friend who's willing to stick up for the character as the series progresses.The preview was interesting. I'm sure the uncut shot of the sunset scene was symbolic of something...I just don't know what. Owaranai Destiny's guess makes sense. I hope it won't be that melancholy, though. Makoto@Kanon's ending was sad, although it was hinted at the end of the series that things aren't that bad.

In any case, Fuu better not be subject to any of Air's tragedies. I have a love/hate relationship with Air because of its emotional roller coaster storyline. That was my first Visual/Key/KyoAni experience, too. I enjoyed Kanon much more, and I hope that Clannad ends on even a lighter beat.

[jdlkem]

SO FUNNY for all the reasons posted above
and so depressing at the same time.

KyoAni does a superb job at this. As always.



On a side note, where's Kyou when Buton is meandering about with the starfish balanced on its/her head?

[eMpTy265]

Well, it seems like all that I wanted to say was already mentioned by someone else, so I'll just put a few thoughts just for the sake of it.


Things that I liked:

- The serious moments at the beginning and end of the episode, and the sandwiched comedy.
- The subtle hint which suggested that Fuko was being forgotten (~6:00)
- Fuko master!!
- Sunohara actually becoming serious earlier in the series (if only just a bit...)
- Starfish VS dango (Actually most of the starfish related stuff this episode)
- The light orb at the title screen


Things that I didn't:

- Sunohara's expression after being poked by Fuko (just looked weird, nothing big)
- No Kyou, Ryou, nor Tomoyo... (I suppose they got their screentime last episode)
- Tomoya x Kotomi scene... (just thought it felt weird...can't say why... maybe because Kotomi and Tomoya seemed very distant?)
- The pacing of the story worries me... considering we have 5 main girls + an after-story
- Where did the light orb come from? Why is it suddenly here?


***

Oddly, this episode didn't stir me up too much (probably due to the rebound from last episode's 'shock'). Thus I'm reserving the 9 for later... judging from the past records of Kyoani, I'm looking forward to a potential 9/10 rating episode soon...


P.S. Did Tomoya really change to a Nagoya accent for the last repetition of the tongue-twister?

[kimchipride]

A real fun ep I enjoyed. Felt kinda awkward when Tomoya started crying. I don't find it as sad as Kanon sadness.

[Ravenblitz]

funny episode but in the end... fuko :(

[Itadakimasu!]

Excellent Episode! Personally I think it's sadder to simply be forgotten than to die ... which is why Fuuko's story will probably affect me much more than Makoto... to be forgotten is like having never existed at all!

Alot of the capital Kyoani put into developing Tomoya and Nagisa paid off in this ep. Alot of people have been complaining about how slow the other eps have been, but personally I find that so far the character development in Clannad esp for Tomoya has been much better than in Kanon. Yuuichi never really seemed more than a vessel for us to project ourselves onto, whereas Tomoya has more individuality...

Great Job Kyoani!

[Meatrose]

Wonderful episode, but I'm still worried about the fact that KyoAni won't possibly be able to cover all the goodness that Clannad is. On the other hand, that much has been clear ever since the idea of cramming a story five times bigger than Kanon into the same amount of episodes surfaced.

[Ascaloth]

Blog post for ep07 is up:

[RIUVA] CLANNAD (TV), Episode 07 (http://www.riuva.com/?p=838)

One of the longer articles I've done in a while, so be sure to read. Onegaishimasu!!!

[holyman282]

I gave this ep a 10 for superb storytelling, but i still feel emotionally detached from Fuko's problems. There were certainly some dramatic scenes (Nagisa crying) but i still oddly don't feel sad about Fuko...... Maybe I'm just cold hearted...

The funny moments were really funny! The sad moments were nice and deserves a 10.

Tomoya suddenly crying didn't have the same impact as Nagisa crying.. It just doesn't seem to conform to his character whom I usually relate to a more comedic personality, hiding his sensitivity in vague acts.. To have him suddenly cry just felt weird.. There's no other way to describe it..

Still overall a good ep considering my lack of interest in the Fuko arc.

[stonedzombie]

great ep! Things are starting to get interesting now...

Fav. moment = class falling in sync

[Lilith]

Ahh... flashbacks of Welcome to the NHK thread...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/lematha/Tomoya.jpg
Image courtsey of Ascaloth's blog (http://www.riuva.com/?p=838).
Awkward?! Weird?! ...Ehhh?!

For me, it was a surprise and quite sad. The sight of a young man who doesn't seem to care about anything and is always sarcastic/joking/playing pranks actually gets teary eyes... tightened my heart. For me, it meant something. Tomoya is not the same person we knew in the first episode... he's more considerate now.

Perhaps what Ascaloth mentioned in his blog is true: males are known to be strong... that's why I'm deeply affected. Not used to men's tears. :heh:

[Kamesan]

Tomoya suddenly crying didn't have the same impact as Nagisa crying.. It just doesn't seem to conform to his character whom I usually relate to a more comedic personality, hiding his sensitivity in vague acts.. To have him suddenly cry just felt weird.. There's no other way to describe it..
I agree. It seemed out of character for him.

[Meatrose]

Awkward?! Weird?! ...Ehhh?!

For me, it was a surprise and quite sad. The sight of a young man who doesn't seem to care about anything and is always sarcastic/joking/playing pranks actually gets teary eyes... tightened my heart. For me, it meant something. Tomoya is not the same person we knew in the first episode... he's more considerate now.

Perhaps what Ascaloth mentioned in his blog is true: males are known to be strong... that's why I'm deeply affected. Not used to men's tears. :heh:

I totally agree. I had no problems whatsoever with that scene. I sincerely liked it.

[Joachim]

Ahh... flashbacks of Welcome to the NHK thread...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v348/lematha/Tomoya.jpg
Image courtsey of Ascaloth's blog (http://www.riuva.com/?p=838).
Awkward?! Weird?! ...Ehhh?!

For me, it was a surprise and quite sad. The sight of a young man who doesn't seem to care about anything and is always sarcastic/joking/playing pranks actually gets teary eyes... tightened my heart. For me, it meant something. Tomoya is not the same person we knew in the first episode... he's more considerate now.

Perhaps what Ascaloth mentioned in his blog is true: males are known to be strong... that's why I'm deeply affected. Not used to men's tears. :heh:

meh, its no secret that men also get teary eyed in some sad occasion, but the thing is, they try too hard to hide that side of them, i myself would try to keep my cool if i'm not alone, but when i'm alone and i get to watch some tear jerker drama, i would BAW right away :heh:

[toxic_trance]

Wow..amazingly late in my response this time. But well..the reaction is same. The episode was awesome. It reached a 9.4 level..so i still kept it at 9

Few thoughts

i) AWESOME drama. The crying scenes of Furukawa are awesomely done. Usually when characters cry, its a bit pain to see it.. but here..without any much of sound..and just by the usage of amazing animation skill..they have done a brilliant job. U simle when Furukawa cries for the smallest things..and ur heart aches when she cries seriously. Kyo ANi has beaten itself again

ii) I felt Fuko to be at her maximum moe potential in this episode. Espescially in scenes of flashback..opening scene..and mostly in the scene where she is climbing the steps with Tomoya and the way she runs around him

iii) Kotomi-chan is simply at her best. I have no more words in my dictionary to convey my feelings for her

iv)Sunohara getting PWNED...well..it never gets boring

v) KUDOS to KyoAni and KEY for showing people that they dont repeat arcs from their previous stories. This is definitely no Ayu.

The only reason again I put a 9 was becaus i know hen the Arc ends..I ll be dying to give it a 11 rating if I give this a 10..so well.. i keep myself at 9 again

Awesome episode again

*waits for Widescreen Ep 04
*waits for CLANNAD 08

[Disaresta]

I loved the stampede scene, Sunohara is as funny as ever.

Anyway, I guess sticking with Nagisa softened up Tomoya, didn't expect him to cry back there.

[Itadakimasu!]

Just about Tomoya and Nagisa.... i think they complement each other well because one of them is rather stoic and the other is a fountain waiting to be turned on. Little wonder people are finding Tomoya's crying a bit awkward

[C.A.]

Great episode, I would have been teary eyed if there were lesser laughs and if I didn't watched it with my brother.

Random note: 2 out of 7 people(who never watched the anime), guessed starfish when I showed them the OP.

The first person I asked, guessed starfish straight away and was certain with it, I was greatly surprised. The other guy guessed starfish after a while, he said that it looked too rounded to be a star.

[The Chaos]

Good Ep And Funny...But at the end it really Sad....Poor Fu-chan...

[Ashlotte]

I'm starting to feel like a broken record as far as my thoughts on these past few episodes but I guess ill say it again...Great comedy, but the drama is still really flat to me.

I was more upset that poor nagisa-chan was sad more then anything really happening to fuko, which doesn't seem...right. I guess its just something about her and her story doesn't really invoke much emotion in me. :confused:

[Kinny Riddle]

I never noticed this before in Kouko-san's flashback, who else thinks Meganekko (Four-eyed) Kouko gave a different aura of prettiness?

[Solafighter]

Nice episode. Can´t wait for next week. :D

[Zaris]

After this episode, things are becoming a little more believable for me. There's a lot of expository dialogue going on this time around, but it's helped me understand the situation better from just sitting through one 24 minute bit. And I also think the animation quality helped make the scenes seem not too lengthy.

In the beginning, I was upset to hear that they weren't addressing the "I can't see my sister" thing at all, but in the end, they didn't have to. I give episode seven high marks for masking this key note for so long - and it arrived with good timing. Fuko's story has been shrowded in mystery ever since we saw the first starfish and I was about to go stir crazy for not having anything diagnosed and explained. The overall moment for revealing plot points for Fuko came at a good time, though I can't speak for everyone. I walked away from my computer satisfied with this episode; any longer and I would've become disinterested.

But what amazes me the most is how we were lead down a path of high hopes and happy endings. And you really believed it was to be true. Then it all comes crashing down in the last five minutes. Rewatch the episode and analyze the scenes one by one, and you will see that it was structured to twist your emotions like peppermint and chocolate in your mouth. It kind of starts out with confusion, frustration, and then it slips into a kind of acceptance and happiness (from all the gags and jokes, naturally). Then it falls into a long road of anticipation and finally, you're hit with shock, empathy, and a touch of unbelievability. It's absolutely amazing how well orchestrated this piece was.

I kind of felt how Nagisa was feeling at that moment in the end. It was a well animated, tear dropping scene (not that I did, but I could've). And I emphasize on the word "animated". Look at it, that 30 second clip. Her legs weaken, she drops to the ground as she can barely contain the grief in her heart. Nagisa reaches for the bench, her forward motion pushes her bag over to the ground, and simply lets go. Tomoya turns to her, and she turns to him. Her balance is tipped and she falls over, a constant reminder of how she's weak - weak physically, and weak and powerless to alter this whirlwind of events. Tomoya drops his bag and reaches for her; they're both feeling awkward at themselves, at each other, at the whole situation. The tears sparkle in the afternoon sun. In an almost pitying sort of way, he bawls too.

You can tell the animators struggled hard to get you teary-eyed from this. In a normal anime from five, maybe ten years ago, the most that someone would do would be to keep a static shot that was very unmoving, limited number of frames and reaction shots, almost as if you were simply viewing a series of paintings. Here though, it mimics live-action so well that you could feel everything. I could literally "feel" the weight Nagisa had on her shoulders, the huge tears coming from her eyes. And when you see her close-ups, like Tomoya, you'd want to start crying to. This moment reflects how far Japanese animation has come in a decade, and while it is a dissatisfying reminder for some people, I think it is a step in the right direction.

In all honesty, I'm surprised we didn't see more of Ibuki-sensei's husband after this, but given the drama of this episode already and how little we've seen of him, I can't say I miss him. And this fanclub of Fuko's seems to be more of a male religious cult than a group who actively sees and notices her. It's a little confusing as to what they do and in some ways it contradicts the whole point an the end. But I would imagine that it's something that could be left for the next coming episodes.

Now I would ask the people who are not really feeling the vibe of this storyline to do themselves a favor and not view the previews at the end of each subsequent episode in future storylines. I think not knowing what'll happen next refrains from speculation based on half-proven facts, which could set yourself up to an array of disappointment. A speculation should be a pure speculation. And if you don't speculate like I'm doing, simply watching the episode based on on-the-screen, slap-in-the-face facts, the emotions might hit you more.

Drama-wise, this is the best CLANNAD episode so far.

[Kisuke06]

I guess everything that I wanted to say has already been said so I will just leave a comment: I really couldn't imagine Sunohara in a serious scene like the end of this episode.

[Deathkillz]

quite the touching scene i have to say...nagisa is such a cry baby...*begins to cry along*
that was how deeply tomoya was affected by her...

why nagisa is soo emotionally affected by the situation isnt explained but its either her nature to be moved by such things or that she has experience such tragic experiences beforehand and so understands the pain.

the ending was quite a shock with sunohara telling tomoya that fuko is disappearing...such a classic plot but it works ^^

[Zaris]

I think it was eluded a few episodes back that Nagisa gets emo because she is just that way. As to why, well, that's left open to interpretation until the producers explain otherwise.

[Zarn]

I agree, drama-wise this one was the best thus far. Can't wait for next week! :)

[gab_rey]

A very good episode. Can't wait for the next one.

[UltimaWolf]

Just finished watching episode 7 and Zaris pretty much summed it up for me aswell. Very good, loved the drama thought it was potrayed very well. Can't wait to see what happens next!

[arkxkra]

this episode dun have Tomoyo's kick but have fans club protection and star attack ...:heh:
it getting and getting more, how should i say the feeling, is fuko really gone in the future or can't wake up?? If wake up, she might lose all the memory which happening now in school wit h Tomoya and other friend...

Nagisa crying that part was, i feel like want to cry ....

[Quakis]

Zaris makes a good post about my opinions on this episode.

You can tell the animators struggled hard to get you teary-eyed from this. In a normal anime from five, maybe ten years ago, the most that someone would do would be to keep a static shot that was very unmoving, limited number of frames and reaction shots, almost as if you were simply viewing a series of paintings. Here though, it mimics live-action so well that you could feel everything.

True this. Though only probably a few stood out - one that comes to mind (after watching most of the series recently) would be the "scene" in episode 31 of Rurouni Kenshin.

Also, I think it's a good thing we see a bit of Sunohara's softer side when he scolds those students "ignoring" Fuko. Comedy part of him aside, it'd be nice if this was continued, maybe a little more indepth.

[UltimaWolf]

Zaris makes a good post about my opinions on this episode.



True this. Though only probably a few stood out - one that comes to mind (after watching most of the series recently) would be the "scene" in episode 31 of Rurouni Kenshin.

Also, I think it's a good thing we see a bit of Sunohara's softer side when he scolds those students "ignoring" Fuko. Comedy part of him aside, it'd be nice if this was continued, maybe a little more indepth.

I also agree about the Sunohara part, it was really nice to see a kinder side of him, makes him alot better of a character IMO.

[SSJiffy]

I enjoyed this episode for its comedy, the fuuko star-attack and low-pitched whistle summoning a rush of club members, and the drama at the end, bleh, it feels like it's going to be another Makoto-ending arc (K2k6 ref.).

[Sinestra]

quite the touching scene i have to say...nagisa is such a cry baby...*begins to cry along*
that was how deeply tomoya was affected by her...

why nagisa is soo emotionally affected by the situation isnt explained but its either her nature to be moved by such things or that she has experience such tragic experiences beforehand and so understands the pain.

the ending was quite a shock with sunohara telling tomoya that fuko is disappearing...such a classic plot but it works ^^

I agree Nagisa is so emtional each and everytime she starts but thats one way you get drawn into the drama. Starfish attack and the fan club attack were excellent, Sunohara cant catch break can he? However listening to him at the end was also touching and his usually humor was replaced by general concern for Fu-Chan. This is just so sad as whatever power that allows everyone else but her sister to see and remember her is starting to fade. I felt so horrible thinking that this little girl has tried her hardest but people are forgetting her now definetly a tear jerker.

Nagisa vs Fu-Chan Starfish cuteness vs dongo that was one the funniest scenes i have seen, it was the most polite argument i have ever seen and it totally broke my brain lol. Although some people dont think Fu-Chan deserves this much screen time for her arc im enjoying i thinks very emotional once you get sucked in.

[cshard]

After reading some of the early posts that were concerned over the length of the Fuuko arc, I did a quick analysis. So far we've had:

Ep 1-2 Tomoya's history + Nagisa's Route + character intro
Ep 3-4 Nagisa's route + character moments + Theater Club
Ep 5-7 Fuuko's route + Nagisa x Tomoya development + partial Yuusuke + Kouko resolution

I'd say that we seem to be doing about ok, with such a large Nagisa x Tomoya buildup. Fuuko's only had 3 episodes to herself, (although it's supposed to end in ep 9) and if the trend is to have Nagisa and Tomoya working together in all the arcs, then I suppose that by the time Nagisa's turn comes, it might already be the After Story arc. Don't forget that groundwork for the other girls has already be somewhat laid up till now.
Anyway, my thoughts on the episode....

Although I thought that Kouko's sudden acceptance of the idea of getting married (considering her reluctance in the last few episodes) was a bit abrupt, I thought the timing was good enough, especially since Fuuko was there as a silent spectator. I wonder if her presence, even if not noticed by Kouko, may have quietly infleunced events? The way she grabbed Nagisa's hand to stop her from revealing that she was there was quite emotional.

Moving on to the funny stuff.... Starfish Botan FTW! XD Does this count as a gattai?

Kotomi-chan~~~~ Before this, I was kinda waiting for her to say "ijimekko", and I was curious when she'd start to say it. And Fuuko did another Kona-chan esque action. (pushing the Starfish up to Kotomi's nose) :heh: In any case.... ~Kotomi-chan has joined the Starfish alliance~ :heh:

The whole hyakuchikotoba scene reminded me of a certain Chiyo-chan doing something similar. XD

So... the true power of the Final Hitode Tsukai is revealed.... Ultimate Fanboy Works? Poor poor Sunohara. I don't think I'd like to know his fate after that. :heh: Curious that the fanboy stampede is summoned like a pack of rabid dogs...

Kouko's reminiscing affected Nagisa pretty strongly again. Also, it occurs to me that Tomoya's excuses are degrading in quality the further on we go though this arc. XD

Sunohara's shuriken idea isn't too far off from what Kyou used her starfish for, I must say. :heh:

Dango Daikazoku vs Hitode daisensou! XD Fastest war resolution in the history of mankind?!?

Ahh, Sunohara kun. Testbed of the future for all conventional and non conventional weaponry - no wonder he'll still be around even after the world ends and Tomoya is replaced by holograms/cyborgs. :heh: Love Fuuko's version of the multihit combo, sparklies and all. XD Best funny scene of the episode.

Koumura seems like a pretty amusing teacher... provided those jokes were jokes. :heh:

As for the grand finale of the episode...up till now, I thought that Shiori's crying scene at the end of Kanon was one of the best animated crying scenes in anime. Something about the way all the subtle movements were animated made that scene stand out for me.

Looks like Nagisa-chan has toppled her from the top spot. XD

The way she just broke apart after hearing the news - even the normally stoic Tomoya couldn't find something to say to her. Perfectly timed, well animated, and excellent voicework from the seiyuu.

I wonder if Tomoya will reveal the truth about Fuuko to Sunohara? After his efforts to help out, I think he deserves as much. It's nice to see him use his delinquent and 3rd year skills to help somone, rather than harass passing girls . XD

Finally, regarding how the Fuuko arc will end,I wonder if...

...they'll settle Fuuko's arc resolution by episode 9... or will they let Fuuko disappear first, and resolve everything only after the After Story arc? Doesn't seem like any good end will happen if the arc is complete by episode 9.

[Mikako]

After watching this episode, I'm so glad I started watching this series out of boredom. Silly me, I thought it'd be your average drama+harem infested show.
... How wrong I was! Now I find myself getting totally hooked into this series AND the game as well. Guess you can't judge a book by its cover, huh? ^^;;

Anyway, with regards to this week's episode, all I can say is that watching Tomoya actually shedding tears -even though it may only be out of pity toward Nagisa- broke my heart. As someone else pointed out earlier, it also helps that it may have been one of the best animated parts of the show so far. Strangely enough, both characters -Nagisa and Tomoya- let their emotions come through more clearly -or logically- than Fuuko does. Then again, I guess you cannot compare each of their personalities, but personally I expected more of a dramatic breakdown from Fuuko, rather than Nagisa-- let alone Tomoya.
I'm really eager to learn why some people ignore Fuuko's existence, too.

Oh, and hitode FTW. x]

[Zilch]

The best episode until now. Funny,emotional and really absorbing.

I can't wait to see what will happen. Although I have known by the game.==

[Mirificus]

Strangely enough, both characters -Nagisa and Tomoya- let their emotions come through more clearly -or logically- than Fuuko does. Then again, I guess you cannot compare each of their personalities, but personally I expected more of a dramatic breakdown from Fuuko, rather than Nagisa-- let alone Tomoya.
It shouldn't really be strange at all. Fuko revealed earlier that she already knew, either intuitively or from experience, that she couldn't communicate directly with her sister so she has had to accept that. Nagisa and Tomoya, on the other hand, didn't truly believe Fuko so being confronted with the "reality" of her situation came as a shock to them.

[Sinestra]

Jesus i think we all need to invest in tissues for the rest of the series everyone is getting pretty emotional. Which is a good sign that the series is drawing viewers in the way it was intended to.

[Mikako]

It shouldn't really be strange at all. Fuko revealed earlier that she already knew, either intuitively or from experience, that she couldn't communicate directly with her sister so she has had to accept that. Nagisa and Tomoya, on the other hand, didn't truly believe Fuko so being confronted with the "reality" of her situation came as a shock to them.

Well, Fuuko herself hadn't met face to face with her sister either, as far as I can tell. What shocked me the most was that, even standing in front of her apparently oblivious sister, she did nothing-- I mean, she even stopped Nagisa from snapping at her sister and tell her she was actually in front of her. After that, uh- well, she [Fuuko] went on as if nothing had happened. I guess you're right though, Fuuko might know (or assume) something else we are not aware of, hence her attitude toward the whole situation.

[Mirificus]

Well, Fuuko herself hadn't met face to face with her sister either, as far as I can tell. What shocked me the most was that, even standing in front of her apparently oblivious sister, she did nothing-- I mean, she even stopped Nagisa from snapping at her sister and tell her she was actually in front of her. After that, uh- well, she [Fuuko] went on as if nothing had happened. I guess you're right though, Fuuko might know (or assume) something else we are not aware of, hence her attitude toward the whole situation.
We already had the following from Fuko:
There's no point in going home.

I think I'm here doing this because I can't see or talk to her. Because there isn't anything else I can do.
Regardless of how she acquired the knowledge, she clearly had at least a general idea of what would happen if she encountered her sister. If anything, Fuko seems to be resigned to her current fate.

This isn't to say I didn't find episode moving (which I did) but the hints were present and, even as a first time viewer, the results of the meeting seemed inexorable.

[KholdStare]

Hm, one thing is for sure. The scene after Nagisa fount out about Fuko is the single most emotional scene I've ever scene. Some anime usually an emotional moment that is built up throughout the episode, but this anime is mixed with comedy then have a single scene that just breaks your heart. This is I think the gem of this episode--the realistic portrayal of human emotions. Of course this has been said before.

I can't imagine giving this episode anything less than a ten, and the reason why is because this episode stands out by itself, similar to how Oukashou stood out in Byousoku 5 Centimetre.

[FCS-31]

I was deeply shaked in this sence......this is the best crying sence I have ever seen........
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc245/liu5813467251/1195164081626.gif
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc245/liu5813467251/1195164100507.gif


and,I find the earliest sub is chinese sub..........
The first one appeared Just in 2 hours.....and there are totaly 8 or more groups make sub for clannad.

It seems that this sence have some special meaning......because of the meaning of three kinds heartsease.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc245/liu5813467251/snapshot20071115171103.jpg

[Reckoner]

I think I have been watching way too many sad anime lately because I am totally untouched emotionally by everything that has been going on in Clannad. I still find the show in general very entertaining and funny, but I can't feel for any of the characters except Tomoya. I think that perhaps one of my problems is that many of the girls in Clannad are very similar to the girls in Kanon for me, and I just recently caught the boat and watched that show before coming to Clannad.

Anyways, I rated this episode an 8/10 because it was good, but not mind boggling.

[Eisdrache]

I liked that we see some more emotions of Tomoya now. After all he was only bored and angry before. Now that he spends more time with Nagisa, we see more and more of his other feelings.

[holyman282]

I liked that we see some more emotions of Tomoya now. After all he was only bored and angry before. Now that he spends more time with Nagisa, we see more and more of his other feelings.

I feel it's more that being near Nagisa has changed his outlook in life. More then seeing his other feelings it's more like he's discovering new feelings he wouldn't of had were it not for Nagisa.

[OceanBlue]

If you want though, you can ask the OST forum what song played in that scene.

[Seraphis]

"Kyokokke kokekyokko kokokokoo kokkeke. How was I?"

Ahahahaha.

Oh and the "Those are actually Starfish" over the PA scene was hilarious. Great episode, Nagisa please don't cry! :(

[gencbiba]

Ok... What is going on? I was liking the anime until Fuuko came into the picture. To me, it seemed like the anime took a wrong turn after that. It focused on her story a bit too much. I wanted more character development between the main character, his friend and Nagisa basically... I still don't understand the fact that Fuuko's sister could not see her. Was this meant to be a supernatural anime to begin with? I thought it was gonna be a romance anime.

[Lilith]

LOL gencbiba you remind me of myself when I first watched Kanon 2006! I had the exact thuoghts. Let's try answering your questions based on my humble opinion:

-You might not like Fuko, but she is an important part of the story. She served the development between Nagisa and Tomoya, she helped us knowing a bit more about the girls and she introduced us to the super natural side of CLANNAD.

-Fuko's sister, Ibuki-sensei, couldn't see her because
she already visited the hospital and saw the in-coma-Fuko. Sanae-san did that and lost the ability to see her too (in addition to slowly forgetting about Fuko).

-It IS romance anime... with some fantasy elements... Or something. Sailormoon is romance anime, but you don't consider ruling the moon and transformations natural do you. :heh:

[Proto]

KEY works are known for mixing ordinary and fantasy elements into their world, and for blurring the line between these two worlds. The fantasy is never the central point of the story, however it is pivotal for the story development in many cases. KANON 2006 and AIR (two previous KEY's works) have much more than CLANNAD of it, but still it is something you have to take into account, because you have to use some of your suspension of disbelief supplies at those time :heh:

And from your post it would seem that you are knew to date-sim game adaptations. This genre is known for being highly modular in its story telling, by allocating a set number of continous episodes to each female main character and her relationship to the protagonist. kyoani (the animation studio) is trying to alleviate some of the worse drawbacks of such approach by interweaving the stories as much as the original script permits them though.

[Curulan]

This episode was absolutely perfect. Tomoya and Nagisa speaking for Fuuku had me in tears instantly.

Also, since the episode on a whole was on a sad note, it was wonderful to have the "Fuuku beats up Youhei" was the perfect break from the bad news towards the end.

I am loving this series more with each episode, and I want to play the actual game more than ever now.

I was deeply shaked in this sence......this is the best crying sence I have ever seen........
I completely agree. Best animation of crying I have seen in a long time.

[zoot]

If Nanae Katou (Princess Tutu) is a duck, this episode's tonguetwister bit shows that Ai Nonaka is a perfect chicken.

[gencbiba]

LOL gencbiba you remind me of myself when I first watched Kanon 2006! I had the exact thuoghts. Let's try answering your questions based on my humble opinion:

-You might not like Fuko, but she is an important part of the story. She served the development between Nagisa and Tomoya, she helped us knowing a bit more about the girls and she introduced us to the super natural side of CLANNAD.

-Fuko's sister, Ibuki-sensei, couldn't see her because
she already visited the hospital and saw the in-coma-Fuko. Sanae-san did that and lost the ability to see her too (in addition to slowly forgetting about Fuko).

-It IS romance anime... with some fantasy elements... Or something. Sailormoon is romance anime, but you don't consider ruling the moon and transformations natural do you. :heh:

Yeah, true... but with Sailor Moon you knew what you were getting yourself into. You knew the anime was based on supernatural fighting and other elements. I had no idea this anime would turn like that.

[konstargirl]

Hehe when Kotomi was on the episode I was like YAY!!! She was saying all of these things about starfish and I found it to be very interestiong. :P

[Proto]

Expect to see more of her in future episodes ;)