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Until episode 3. We not know much about Chun-Li disciple. But I like her. :)
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-10-22, 14:18
I like the way how Tomoyo thinks and acts to whatever Sunohara throws at her. She just acts calm and accepts the challenge made by Sunohara, even though he knows already he is no match for her. I mean if I was in her position, I would really be irritated and probably just put that guy in the hospital already if that person hasn't learned it's lesson yet.:heh:
But out of all the Clannad girls so far in the show, I like Tomoyo the best next to Kyou. Both characters have certainly made their presence really known in the show. I wonder if she has a story behind her that makes her what she is now. I mean there must be some reason why she can fight like that unless she takes Karate classes for fun. Although I've heard that Tomoyo became a very popular character that Key decided to make a separate game just for Tomoyo. I wonder if Kyoto animations will decide to do an adaptation to that one as well.
DazarGaidin
2007-10-22, 14:40
I know it wont likely happen but it would be nice if she got with the little blonde dude she is always beating up :P Anyway, what are we up to now, 733 hits? They should make her a secret character in street fighter :P
SeedFreedom
2007-10-22, 14:53
defiantly my favorite character in the early going, but much too early to be anywhere near a final decision. the only reason she didnt put that guy in the IC room yet is cuse she wants to shake her bad rep
bullrogg
2007-10-22, 17:32
I also tomoyo is also a likeable character in the beginning. However, even at the end series i think she will still be a fav of mine. You gotta love that every episode she beats sunohara up :)
shes is my favorite character right now and sunohara getting beaten up by her is very funny plus she seems as a intresting person
Takuto19
2007-10-22, 18:21
Same for me, she's my fav chatacter (along with Fuko, heh), hoping to see more of hey in the coming episode, but if they do her arch halfway through then i wont mind (if that's how there gonna do it anyway).
Master Chibi
2007-10-22, 23:53
She's got to hook up with Suno.
She just has to, it would be freaking awesome.
Nightengale
2007-10-23, 01:53
She's got to hook up with Suno.
She just has to, it would be freaking awesome.
Pulling a ~pure rouge~? :heh:
That would be awesome indeed, but that depends on how Kyoto wants to alter the source material to pad the anime or whether or not Tomoyo's story can even make sense if they change the man involved. After all, one way or another, Tomoya is the main character.
Deathkillz
2007-10-23, 02:33
Until episode 3. We not know much about Chun-Li disciple. But I like her. :)
disciple? she IS chun-Li's master ;)
Tomoyo...best character in the series for me :D (gosh how i fall for the strong silent type fighting for justice XD)
too bad though it seem that her story may be lacking...or i could be proven wrong (hopefully).
anselfir
2007-10-23, 15:36
tomoyo is love
she should not be dragged around by ye dirty hands in 'pairings.' tomoyo decides her own destiny.
get sonohara's dirty chauvinist hands off of her. that some people would even consider 'pairing up' a strong independent girl with an idiot like that is despicable.
Kang Seung Jae
2007-10-23, 18:28
I consider Tomoyo a passive Sunao-Cool (素直 - ク―ル), which is why she's my favorite character, along with Kyou.
Plus, who DOESN'T like silver hair?
Baka-yuki
2007-10-23, 21:47
Tomoyo is my favorite character probably because shes the silent type, and martial artist.
Plus she has silver hair:D
Aznbanana
2007-10-24, 14:34
Tomoyo is my fav cuz shes cute, long silver hair, calm and collected and kicks ass literally. Damn, I might just get the Clannad game to see her whole story.
SeedFreedom
2007-10-24, 15:53
I may be wrong but i think she has her own spin-off game that 18+. Can someone verify/correct please.
I may be wrong but i think she has her own spin-off game that 18+. Can someone verify/correct please.
She has. It's called Tomoyo After: It's a Wonderful Life.
According to Wikipedia,the PC verison is 18+ while the PS2 verison is 12+.
holyman282
2007-10-24, 22:02
Dammit i'm definitely going to get Tomoyo's game.. Played a bit of the Clannad, but given up and am patiently waiting for the translation...
Tomoyo is awesome, I really wish she gets more screentime. Her character is just so interesting. I'm a sucker for strong silent types with silver hair.. The hair has to be long too. I love the long hair!
kucigaromeo
2007-10-25, 20:57
I usually don't watch bishoujo anime but seeing Tomoyo doing 20-hit combo against delinquents in ep 1, at least I must see her in depth story
mr_winkie
2007-10-25, 22:54
I really like Tomoyo and so far the anime's doing a good job capturing her demeanor (and her over-the-top fighting skills). I've played 'Tomoyo After ~It's a Wonderful Life~' and Key did a good job developing her character (though I'm still in need of clarification on some parts in the game itself).
I know it wont likely happen but it would be nice if she got with the little blonde dude she is always beating up :P Anyway, what are we up to now, 733 hits? They should make her a secret character in street fighter :P
Naw. If Capcom did that the other characters wouldn't even get chosen lol:p
as 0f ep4 1013 hits, lol. is it out comedy that they give her such fast feet?
Eviltape
2007-10-26, 20:51
Screenshot, if anyone's interested or wants to sig/avatar it.
http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s113/Eviltape/Screenshots/lol2.jpg
Kang Seung Jae
2007-10-26, 21:23
A challenge to Tomoyo Fans: Categorize Tomoyo's characteristics!
I say she is a passive Sunao-Cool (素直 - ク―ル).
deathreape98
2007-10-27, 09:55
as 0f ep4 1013 hits, lol. is it out comedy that they give her such fast feet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UOGD2wpS5A
bet that hurts...
not really sure whosmy fav chara or anything, but tomoya is...well.....awesome. she owns him every episode :P
FireChick
2007-10-27, 10:24
My god! This girl ROCKS my socks!! I mean, she PWNS Youhei BIG TIME!!! I LOVE this girl!:D I can NEVER have the strength to make somebody smash through and window and into a tree!
I don't like Tomoyo after ep4, First she's kicking ass with her godlike strength, yeah, that's cool, but what's next? Starting to moan about how she'd like to be a normal girl and how she'd like to express herself without violence? What's with that attitude? I'd choose Kyou anyime.
I don't like Tomoyo after ep4, First she's kicking ass with her godlike strength, yeah, that's cool, but what's next? Starting to moan about how she'd like to be a normal girl and how she'd like to express herself without violence? What's with that attitude? I'd choose Kyou anyime.
She's like Tomoya, and there is a reason that she's the only chara to get a "sequel" to her path.
Sinestra
2007-10-29, 07:52
Of course she is my fav as well there is so potential story there with her. I also like how she calmly whoops ass but at times like episode 4 she has a girly side. Although its kind of played down her limited convo's with Tomoya are quite interesting. Im intersted to find out about her past with Tomoya which she stop short of revealing in episode 2
Master Chibi
2007-10-29, 13:54
She needs to hook up with Suno, like yesterday.
Best character with no development in 4eps award will goto her!:heh:
Klashikari
2007-10-29, 19:41
no development?
I beg to differ. Tomoyo had subtils developments here and there, especially in episode 4 and episode 2.
The various mentions of her past are enough to actually stretch what happened to her before the transfer.
Kang Seung Jae
2007-10-29, 19:44
no development?
I beg to differ. Tomoyo had subtils developments here and there, especially in episode 4 and episode 2.
The various mentions of her past are enough to actually stretch what happened to her before the transfer.
Still, I hate the fact that they didn't put in the "Prove Tomoyo is a girl" scene.... that was hilarious in-game.
Best character with no development in 4eps award will goto her!:heh:
Like Klashikari said, you can see development from her especially in episode four. Her "I was thinking i was acting like a normal girl at this school." You can kinda see where this one shall go.
no development?
I beg to differ. Tomoyo had subtils developments here and there, especially in episode 4 and episode 2.
The various mentions of her past are enough to actually stretch what happened to her before the transfer.
Like Klashikari said, you can see development from her especially in episode four. Her "I was thinking i was acting like a normal girl at this school." You can kinda see where this one shall go.
I didn't mean to offend but rather showing a sign of my own patience running thin.
I see those as teasers rather than development. Yes they are changing pieces of information so that qualifies but the pace is annoying ... her time will come. :heh:
no development?
I beg to differ. Tomoyo had subtils developments here and there, especially in episode 4 and episode 2.
The various mentions of her past are enough to actually stretch what happened to her before the transfer.
thats one thing i like about her and other silent mysterious characters. ie yuki nagato, minami (lucky star) etc
eMpTy265
2007-10-29, 21:37
Still, I hate the fact that they didn't put in the "Prove Tomoyo is a girl" scene.... that was hilarious in-game.
Considering how Sunohara hasn't given up yet, there still may be a chance.
(I suppose it also depends on Sunohara's HP... ) :heh:
I didn't mean to offend but rather showing a sign of my own patience running thin.
I see those as teasers rather than development. Yes they are changing pieces of information so that qualifies but the pace is annoying ... her time will come. :heh:
A typical problem with game > anime conversions with relatively large casts... either you resort to the 'a girl a day' method, or you need to put off some characters for later...
In Tomoyo's case, pushing back the revelations for her route helps make more mysterious, which isn't too bad IMHO... (it helps reinforce her cool / mysterious transfer student image)
ya, she was absent throughout ep5 :frustrated: . though it did turn out to be a good ep even if she wasnt there.
Yes, the episode wasn't very interesting without Tomoyo.
Hopefully they can squeeze here in to a comedic scene or something in ep 6.
Yes, the episode wasn't very interesting without Tomoyo.
Hopefully they can squeeze here in to a comedic scene or something in ep 6.
tomoya's jokes are pretty damn funny so that made up a bit for tomoyo's absence.
I'd die if they did the last PS2 scene with a dream sequence setting :frustrated:
Especially if they draw Tomoyo and Tomoya in shades of light colors...
I think something in me would shrivel up and die as well if that happened too. :heh: On the other hand, I actually would like to see this matter closed once and for all - even a dream sequence like what you describe would put an air of finality on the question.
Then again, there isn't much for Tomoyo discussion in ep.5... save for the chance that Misae might replace Tomoyo as the Sunohara killer...
Hmm... why just Misae though? I'd like to see how high a combo they could go up to. XD I seem to recall hearing that Sunohara gets comboed by many people in a certain path. I'd like to have Tomoyo, Tomoya, Kyou, Misae, Akio all involved in a killer combo sequence.
I wonder if Tomoyo will be absent for the duration of Fuuko's route? They did already mention she's busy with the Student Council stuff, as well as have Misae snapping Sunohara's arm so that he can't go bug her for some time. XD
i wonder when they'll get to tomoyo's arc.
mr_winkie
2007-11-05, 09:41
Probably not until the series is about halfway through, I guess. For now, I'll just be content with her kicking the crap out of Youhei whenever his plans to prove Tomoyo is a guy fail magnificently.
eMpTy265
2007-11-05, 16:03
Hmm... why just Misae though? I'd like to see how high a combo they could go up to. XD I seem to recall hearing that Sunohara gets comboed by many people in a certain path. I'd like to have Tomoyo, Tomoya, Kyou, Misae, Akio all involved in a killer combo sequence.
I wonder if Tomoyo will be absent for the duration of Fuuko's route? They did already mention she's busy with the Student Council stuff, as well as have Misae snapping Sunohara's arm so that he can't go bug her for some time. XD
Well, in the game most of the sunohara abuse comes from Misae and Tomoyo (with Kyou being the icing on the cake).
The perfect combo in the game is only possible when you've met everyone in the game, which is possible in Tomoyo's route, upon completing certain other routes.
The combo was a 64-hit perfect combo, consisting of 7 tag team combo activations ... in order:
Tomoya (Reflex kick)
Kyou (Dictionary Demolisher)
Fuko (Starfish Surge)
Misae (Hurricane Kick)
Yukine (actually her bodyguards - Heavy Punch)
Akio (<mysterious attack...>)
Komura-sensei (hiyaaa! <note: hot-blooded komura, revival!!>)
Note: In the game, Tomoyo does 8 hits then Sunohara flies away... the tag team trigger does not add 1 hit.
can anyone tell me without spoiling tomoyo's arc if its a sad arc to watch?
Kang Seung Jae
2007-11-08, 22:21
can anyone tell me without spoiling tomoyo's arc if its a sad arc to watch?
Well, the Clannad Tomoyo arc isn't that sad.
It's Tomoyo After that is the tear-jerker.
Well, the Clannad Tomoyo arc isn't that sad.
It's Tomoyo After that is the tear-jerker.
ty. dont think ill know about the tomoyo after until it anime shows her arc. i cant stand being spoiled, raw eps are fine on some series but not on clannad imo.
Ultima_Rasengan05
2007-11-09, 04:26
the Tomoyo after game really me makes me think that, even though Nagisa is the main character, Key went through all the trouble to make a stand alone game with Tomoyo. I know this may be an obvious question already, but was Tomoyo really that popular as a character in Clannad to spark up her own game?
I like Tomoyo and there might be a chance that Kyoto Animations may animate her game after Clannad.
Kang Seung Jae
2007-11-09, 19:54
the Tomoyo after game really me makes me think that, even though Nagisa is the main character, Key went through all the trouble to make a stand alone game with Tomoyo. I know this may be an obvious question already, but was Tomoyo really that popular as a character in Clannad to spark up her own game?
I like Tomoyo and there might be a chance that Kyoto Animations may animate her game after Clannad.
Tomoyo After isn't really a Key sponsered game, depending on how you look at it.
After releasing their highly-anticipated title, Clannad, Key gave its designers the freedom to work on projects as they wished. Tomoyo After was the result of Jun Maeda's decision to make a game based on the Tomoyo scenario from Clannad. Jun Maeda handled the game's scenario, continuing from his work on the Tomoyo scenario in Clannad.
the Tomoyo after game really me makes me think that, even though Nagisa is the main character, Key went through all the trouble to make a stand alone game with Tomoyo. I know this may be an obvious question already, but was Tomoyo really that popular as a character in Clannad to spark up her own game?
I like Tomoyo and there might be a chance that Kyoto Animations may animate her game after Clannad.
i wouldnt mind seeing that animated. it would save me alot of trouble of actually getting the games, much less that i dont have time for then in the 1st place. wikipedia would do fine when i have seen her story arc.
Owaranai Destiny
2007-11-10, 09:36
i wouldnt mind seeing that animated. it would save me alot of trouble of actually getting the games, much less that i dont have time for then in the 1st place. wikipedia would do fine when i have seen her story arc.
I second that. :D
I'm under the impression that Tomoyo's arc would go more towards the development for Tomoya instead, such as helping him get over some issues which he has been running from.
I don't suppose putting in a few reasons for her being my favorite character would hurt~
1) Doesn't really give off the 'moe' vibe so far, but more of a calm and cool aura. It's been a while since I've seen such characters.
2) Although much of the credit goes to Sunohara, her participation in the humorous segments was great. Goes to show that she isn't a typical ice-queen or anything.
3) I like the fact that despite her countenance, she is somewhat frank about what she wants (being more like an ordinary girl). Her attitude doesn't give people the impression that she's unapproachable. In other words, she isn't like a perfect girl, getting miffed when pushed too far.
4) Fighting girl, silver hair...I guess that sums it up. :p
A fighting girl that really caught my eyes. Kind-hearted too.
I kinda like this character already... .:p
I think tommorow should be official Tomoyo day, since it's her Seiyuu's birthday. :)
Bankai29
2007-12-12, 09:36
Dang I really wish they won't take out the "simulations" from the Tomoyo arc. Those are damn funny.
tripperazn
2007-12-14, 06:04
In the idea I was stating, there still would be that - but I don't think that Tomoya himself would want her to sacrifice her potential, or the good she could do for others, by giving it all up for his sake. And if he did die, I'm sure he'd want her to live on and do her best.
Yes, love is a powerful thing - but there are times when the best way to show that love is to let go, and start anew.
You're exactly right, he knew and didn't like his negative influence on Tomoyo. Since you haven't played either game, I won't spoil any more. He also did something about it. Key male leads rarely do anything wrong.
Takuto19
2007-12-16, 19:42
I'm really looking forward to Tomoyo's arc the whole Tomoyo/Sunohara exchanges are great heh.
I said at the start of Clannad she would proboly be my fav character, after leaning to Kotomi abit i think Tomoyo is alot better.
I would really like to see Tomoyo's arc being the last arc in the series and ending on it.
Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-16, 19:43
I would really like to see Tomoyo's arc being the last arc in the series and ending on it.
Impossible, that defeats the purpose of Clannad.
Takuto19
2007-12-16, 20:42
Impossible, that defeats the purpose of Clannad.
Yeah, i know it won't happen, but i just really liked Tomoyo's arc, i never did Nagisa's arc since i'm waiting on the translation but from what i hear that's gonna be the last arc in the series.
I usually don't watch bishoujo anime but seeing Tomoyo doing 20-hit combo against delinquents in ep 1, at least I must see her in depth story
Ahaha, same here.
Tomoyo just captured my heart with her 20-hit combo kick after I watched episode 1. Plus, she reminds me a lot of Kawasumi Mai in term of silent-but-kicks-ass attitude. :3 Though the problem here will be distinguishing Tomoyo from Tomoya, since both names sound very same. :heh:
Owaranai Destiny
2007-12-17, 05:20
Ahaha, same here.
Tomoyo just captured my heart with her 20-hit combo kick after I watched episode 1. Plus, she reminds me a lot of Kawasumi Mai in term of silent-but-kicks-ass attitude. :3 Though the problem here will be distinguishing Tomoyo from Tomoya, since both names sound very same. :heh:
True in many ways, though I don't really view Tomoyo as a silent type currently. It's more of a 'less talk, more action', an attitude which might have apparently been cultivated from her fighting experiences before. :heh:
Maybe I presume too much, but like Mai, so far there hasn't been much focus on her as a major character in terms of development save for a few bits and pieces. In any case, even while we will enjoy the Kotomi and impending Kyou arcs, I'm still looking forward mostly to Tomoyo's story. ;)
same here, i really would like to see wat made her decided to deal with delinguents. its really quite intruiging to see her in ep 1 standing amid defeated delinguents. i do like kotomi's silent character but i feel that might be a tiny bit more interesting than kotomi.
Seems like something happened to her that makes her desire to change herself... But I can sense that she is a kind soul even before the showing of her accepting the star from Fuko....
You're exactly right, he knew and didn't like his negative influence on Tomoyo. Since you haven't played either game, I won't spoil any more. He also did something about it. Key male leads rarely do anything wrong.
Oh, it's alright - I don't mind spoilers.
I've read up on both games as much as I can already - though I don't have everything figured out just yet.
Though as I said earlier, I wonder if they might not re-write the Tomoyo arc to have the Drama Club group help her get elected, and thus save the trees - since they seem to be building up to a Nagisa ending.
Besides, if there are plenty of timelines where Tomoyo doesn't hook up with Tomoya, and still gets to rescue the sakura, who is to say there wasn't a timeline where the gang helped out?
tripperazn
2007-12-17, 23:51
Oh, it's alright - I don't mind spoilers.
I've read up on both games as much as I can already - though I don't have everything figured out just yet.
Though as I said earlier, I wonder if they might not re-write the Tomoyo arc to have the Drama Club group help her get elected, and thus save the trees - since they seem to be building up to a Nagisa ending.
Besides, if there are plenty of timelines where Tomoyo doesn't hook up with Tomoya, and still gets to rescue the sakura, who is to say there wasn't a timeline where the gang helped out?
Visit the Wikipedia history page on "list of clannad characters" for spoilers. I think that's what they're going to do, I don't see Tomoyo's arc being played out at all unless that's the case. It's just going to be less TomoyoxTomoya and more Tomoyo with Drama Club. Canon material or not, it's probably what's going to happen. If KyoAni sticks to the novel completely, a 52 ep run might not be enough. They must take some liberties.
would looking up/reading tomoyo after spoiler her arc in the anime??
Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-19, 23:35
would looking up/reading tomoyo after spoiler her arc in the anime??
What?
I didn't understand.
What?
I didn't understand.
will TA refer to any events that will occur in tomoyo's story during the anime clannad?
Kang Seung Jae
2007-12-19, 23:57
will TA refer to any events that will occur in tomoyo's story during the anime clannad?
Can't say because we don't know how much of Tomoyo's arc will be shown in the anime.
Can't say because we don't know how much of Tomoyo's arc will be shown in the anime.
fair enuff, ty kang
Woow, in the first eps, they showed a little of Tomoyo's past... totally a Sukeban, i.e. Madoka Ayukawa from KOR.
It's interesting how her character would develop... let's see the entire anime :)
Klashikari
2008-01-29, 09:27
Just to leave a useful information in case of:
All the spoilers and information related to Tomoyo After ~It's a Wonderful Life~ have been moved to an appropriate thread (http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=61635).
Please use the linked thread for anything related to Tomoyo After, and keeping the scope of this one solely on Tomoyo in CLANNAD.
Owaranai Destiny
2008-01-29, 12:02
Thanks for the reminder Klashikari.
I get the feeling that some people/Clannad detractors would start pointing out the "sudden" change in attitude Tomoyo displayed in the latest episode when she was speaking with Tomoya, considering some viewers I know stuck the particularly unfair "Ice Queen" tag on her. Was she always like that in the first place? :eyespin:
Klashikari
2008-01-29, 12:04
Thanks for the reminder Klashikari.
I get the feeling that some people/Clannad detractors would start pointing out the "sudden" change in attitude Tomoyo displayed in the latest episode when she was speaking with Tomoya, considering some viewers I know stuck the particularly unfair "Ice Queen" tag on her. Was she always like that in the first place? :eyespin:
No, in fact, she was even more easy going in the game actually.
To be fair, I don't see how she could be labeled as Ice Queen (I even saw "potential tsundere" sometimes *cough*). Being overly serious doesn't mean you are cold, but heh.
Itadakimasu!
2008-01-29, 18:36
I've only played through her Clannad route, haven't played tomoyo after yet, but I love Tomoyo's simple good naturedness and her lack of pretence. The way she acts may at times be blunt and awkward, but you can sense her strength as a character.
I'm not sure the ice queen or tsundere tags fit her... its just that the anime adaptation has had to cut down everything to just the basics... in the game she's pretty easy going and sometimes a bit childlike in her lack of care for social norms (e.g. coming to have lunch in a senpai's class despite the connotations of her being a junior and sitting with Okazaki)
mandarb916
2008-01-29, 21:01
She's basically the polar opposite of Nagisa...Teredere would probably describe her best...not tsundere.
She's pretty straight with her emotions, but once she fesses up, she turns rather shy :P
She's basically the polar opposite of Nagisa...Teredere would probably describe her best...not tsundere.
She's pretty straight with her emotions, but once she fesses up, she turns rather shy :P
isnt tomoyo a sukeban also even if she doesnt fight too much anymore? btw wat is teredere? i havent heard that term b4.
mandarb916
2008-01-29, 21:37
teredere is a mix between Tereru and deredere
Tereru itself is to become embarassed, however in this case, it refers to the actions taken by someone who's embarassed (whether it be punching someone in the arm, joking around about romance, etc)
teredere is a mix between Tereru and deredere
Tereru itself is to become embarassed, however in this case, it refers to the actions taken by someone who's embarassed (whether it be punching someone in the arm, joking around about romance, etc)
wow, thats confusing. so many words to describe the character's behaviour. so let me get this straight. take the ep16 preview at the end of ep 15. tomoyo asks tomoya if he's going out with anyone (->being direct), then she could become embarassed because she asked him that. is that a good example? if deredere is exhausted, lovestruck then terureu would hav to go along the lines of them being direct when talking to ppl?
mandarb916
2008-01-30, 01:08
wow, thats confusing. so many words to describe the character's behaviour. so let me get this straight. take the ep16 preview at the end of ep 15. tomoyo asks tomoya if he's going out with anyone (->being direct), then she could become embarassed because she asked him that. is that a good example? if deredere is exhausted, lovestruck then terureu would hav to go along the lines of them being direct when talking to ppl?
the actual being direct part isn't a prerequisite, but if she becomes embarassed in things pertaining to a relationship while around others, but becomes loveydovey in private, she would fall under the Teredere category.
Teredere is a mild form of tsundere, I suppose
Kiredere is an excessive form of tsundere (taking the "tsun" aspect too far and becoming excessively violent/angry)
the actual being direct part isn't a prerequisite, but if she becomes embarassed in things pertaining to a relationship while around others, but becomes loveydovey in private, she would fall under the Teredere category.
Teredere is a mild form of tsundere, I suppose
Kiredere is an excessive form of tsundere (taking the "tsun" aspect too far and becoming excessively violent/angry)
ty for the further clarification, now the tern teredere makes more sense.
Sterling01
2008-02-02, 05:26
No, in fact, she was even more easy going in the game actually.
To be fair, I don't see how she could be labeled as Ice Queen (I even saw "potential tsundere" sometimes *cough*). Being overly serious doesn't mean you are cold, but heh.
Yeah in her route and Tomoyo After there's a little "potential tsundere"
Owaranai Destiny
2008-02-02, 08:57
Well, she certainly IS very direct, judging from the latest episode. Regarding her interest in Tomoya, though...Considering that it might be something new to her, maybe she'll show a different attitude towards that? Or maybe she will just wait on the same route everyday for Tomoya to appear and drag him off to school to be on time. :heh:
Whatever it is, so far I'm almost completely in the dark about her personality. It would be interesting to see if she actually reacts differently after Sunohara's question posed to her.
Stretch5920
2008-02-02, 09:01
Tomoyo is full of motherly love.
KaneDragon
2008-02-03, 11:19
Episode 16 gave Tomoyo a lot of "What is this thing you humans call love?" vibes. :p Tomoyo nonchalantly walking into Tomoya's classroom, announcing "I'm not interested in Sunohara" (but came for Tomoya, "perhaps this feeling could be called 'interested'"... ^^ Though trying to assign her selective cluelessness is perhaps unfair.
I like how straightforward Tomoyo is. :)
todkapuz
2008-02-03, 15:02
Episode 16 gave Tomoyo a lot of "What is this thing you humans call love?" vibes. :p Tomoyo nonchalantly walking into Tomoya's classroom, announcing "I'm not interested in Sunohara" (but came for Tomoya, "perhaps this feeling could be called 'interested'"... ^^ Though trying to assign her selective cluelessness is perhaps unfair.
I like how straightforward Tomoyo is. :)
She is growing on me... I love her complex make up... she is very physically strong, yet doesn't want to have to use it ... or be judged by it... yet with all that she seems to have a hard time saying no... and needed Tomoya to get her out of a jam... and yes the episode 16 semi-disconnect from reality..
I dunno... I can see why she has her own story now :)
sikvod00
2008-02-03, 16:10
Will her arc explain why she can do a 1000+ hit combo or why her kicks can trash a motorcycle?
mandarb916
2008-02-03, 16:34
Will her arc explain why she can do a 1000+ hit combo or why her kicks can trash a motorcycle?
Why she can do 1000+hit combos...i think that's just anime physics...why she's so strong? I thought that was explained in one of the first few episodes in regards to the school she transfered from.
^ ya didnt they say there were rumor of a sukeban/bancho going around messing up bullies in ep 1?
mandarb916
2008-02-03, 17:21
^ ya didnt they say there were rumor of a sukeban/bancho going around messing up bullies in ep 1?
yeah...if you want to know why she was a sukeban, though, feel free to PM me since it's only been explained in the game so far...not sure if that'll be included in the anime.
yeah...if you want to know why she was a sukeban, though, feel free to PM me since it's only been explained in the game so far...not sure if that'll be included in the anime.
ty for the offer but ill wait until they finish the tomoyo/kyou arc. i was hoping that they could spend adequate time on all 5 girls but i'll take wat they show atm. i'll send you a pm when the current arc is done so i can hear about the major parts of tomoyo's arc. then i can finally open the spoiler tags and then i can read the 1st 2 chapters of tomoyo after.
TomoyoSakagami
2008-02-04, 11:14
Episode 16 gave Tomoyo a lot of "What is this thing you humans call love?" vibes. :p Tomoyo nonchalantly walking into Tomoya's classroom, announcing "I'm not interested in Sunohara" (but came for Tomoya, "perhaps this feeling could be called 'interested'"... ^^ Though trying to assign her selective cluelessness is perhaps unfair.
I like how straightforward Tomoyo is. :)
LOL! That was so great, wasn't a "I'm not interested in Tomoya". I want her arc to unravel in the anime now!
Well she got almost the same character as me thats the reason I like her :)
I was upset when Tomoyo didn't show up many times in the first 14 eps. But now she's on the way.
Her aim is be a president and her plan is make a lazy boy like Tomoya become a good student. I think the relationship will grow up ep after ep ^o^
Hyperion
2008-02-09, 01:04
as of ep 17 Tomoyo is my fav character. Tomoya is so damn lucky!
she sure does amaze me with her ignorance/unaware of social norms. becoming a guys personal alarm clock usually is done if they're quite close to each other.
Owaranai Destiny
2008-02-09, 10:58
Maybe she does know, but it could be the way she does things, or how she considers it to be an action where it come in line with 'being interested in Okazaki Tomoya'. :heh: I haven't quite forgotten the scene with her thinking aloud about that in the previous episode.
I've heard about this 'sukeban' thingy and even read up on it. Ought to be interesting for her, and probably a good reason as to what she said in the preview (Switching schools).
she sure does amaze me with her ignorance/unaware of social norms. becoming a guys personal alarm clock usually is done if they're quite close to each other.
She could very well know, but wants to do it anyway *shrug*
Maybe she does know, but it could be the way she does things, or how she considers it to be an action where it come in line with 'being interested in Okazaki Tomoya'. :heh: I haven't quite forgotten the scene with her thinking aloud about that in the previous episode.
I've heard about this 'sukeban' thingy and even read up on it. Ought to be interesting for her, and probably a good reason as to what she said in the preview (Switching schools).
im looking foreward to the reason why she switched schools. one shot in the dark about changing schools must be related to the wheel chair she was pushing in the op.
She could very well know, but wants to do it anyway *shrug*
she is a close frind but too bad he only thinks of nagisa :(.
btw i found vids on youtube of tomoyo's path in the game with the translation patch :D . gonna have to watch it after they get on with nagisaxtomoya.
Well, Tomoya kinda thinks about everyone, he's nice like that.
Tomoyo's path was my favourite by far, 'twas awesome.
Tomoyo is a real street fighter. :)
Before, using Chun li technique, now using Ken technique. :)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/9701/tomoyobc2.gif
mandarb916
2008-02-09, 21:49
Not sure where this belongs...it's not Clannad...it's not Tomoyo After either...
zwKvxzmdYaE
Tomoyo Fighter :P
LOL perfect. I want to play. :D
mikesince83
2008-02-11, 21:29
Fun fact!
Tomoyo showed up to the basketball game in episode 16. (13:54)
Fun fact!
Tomoyo showed up to the basketball game in episode 16. (13:54)
she was shown in the rafters 2 times during the game, and once after the game ended if im correct.
Not sure where this belongs...it's not Clannad...it's not Tomoyo After either...
zwKvxzmdYaE
Tomoyo Fighter :P
Whoa Hard Gay appears at 0:17!!
Hooooo!
Yukinokesshou
2008-02-15, 11:10
Tomoyo's my favourite character now ^^
But whereas most fans see her in a romantic light, I would rather have her as my elder sister.
Does anyone else share my opinion? After all, Clannad's all about family :p
Owaranai Destiny
2008-02-15, 12:47
Tomoyo's my favourite character now ^^
But whereas most fans see her in a romantic light, I would rather have her as my elder sister.
Does anyone else share my opinion? After all, Clannad's all about family :p
Sister, lover...Hey, she's good at being both, especially after we've seen what she's been through in her own life. In both cases, she can take care of people when she wants to, and that's what makes her a good 'family member' to have around.
Sister or romantic other? Honestly speaking, I would take the latter. ;)
Yukinokesshou
2008-02-15, 13:38
Sister, lover...Hey, she's good at being both, especially after we've seen what she's been through in her own life. In both cases, she can take care of people when she wants to, and that's what makes her a good 'family member' to have around.
Sister or romantic other? Honestly speaking, I would take the latter. ;)
In all fairness, I'd prefer Tomoyo as my romantic other rather than anyone else in Clannad. She's emotionally and mentally mature, and unintentionally funny :)
That being said, I'm happy with the way Clannad is headed. Tomoyo's personality is my favourite but Nagisa's plot is probably better. I prefer plot-driven storylines as opposed to character-driven ones. Besides, I've read a synopsis of Tomoyo After and don't really like it (too random and character-driven).
mandarb916
2008-02-15, 13:49
Besides, I've read a synopsis of Tomoyo After and don't really like it (too random and character-driven).
uhm...it's actually not that random...some aspects are exaggerated, but definitely not random. Character-driven...well aren't a lot of Japanese stories about character development anyways?
Mirrinus
2008-02-15, 15:20
I didn't realize being character-driven was a bad thing...
Anyway, my respect for Tomoyo has totally shot up as of episode 18.
KholdStare
2008-02-15, 16:33
You guys are right. When Tomoyo smiles, it makes me tingly.
Yukinokesshou
2008-02-15, 18:26
You guys are right. When Tomoyo smiles, it makes me tingly.
Indeed. I love Tomoyo's smile.
uhm...it's actually not that random...some aspects are exaggerated, but definitely not random. Character-driven...well aren't a lot of Japanese stories about character development anyways?
Okay, you are correct ^^
In that case, the "character driven" rubbish was just a half-arsed attempt at justifying my biased opinion.
after seeing ep 18, is the reason why tomoyo went crazy because she had to vent out her anger at her current situation with her parents on thugs?
also, did they leave out any important events out of her arc?
The important event is about "Family", maybe Tomoya use the idea to go more close to his father.
The Sakura way too, I think.
This is one ideas, I don't see the game. :)
About Tomoyo, I love her more after episode 18. Every scene on Tomoyo at sports are beautiful.
KholdStare
2008-02-15, 20:10
The important event is about "Family", maybe Tomoya use the idea to go more close to his father.
The Sakura way too, I think.
This is one ideas, I don't see the game. :)
About Tomoyo, I love her more after episode 18. Every scene on Tomoyo at sports are beautiful.
This is really one of the episodes where the ED is most relevant. I loved this episode from minute one until the previews.
that game even got old man groping tomoyo in 00:45 :heh: and hard gay? oh man i dont even want to think when he start going "hardo gayy hoooo" to tomoyo :facepalm:
I did like the way things were handled in ep 18:
Tomoyo saw what was going on when Nagisa introduced herself, and quickly accepted it and moved on - although it's perhaps up for debate whether Tomoyo in the anime was even close to being as besotted with him as, say, Ryou or Kyou would have been.
Which is precisely what I like to see - female lead characters who are more than capable of finding someone new (and quite possibly better - after all, Tomoya is a sound enough guy, but he's hardly flawless) down the line, and who aren't dependent on the male lead protagonist for their future success/happiness/etc.
I did like the way things were handled in ep 18:
Tomoyo saw what was going on when Nagisa introduced herself, and quickly accepted it and moved on - although it's perhaps up for debate whether Tomoyo in the anime was even close to being as besotted with him as, say, Ryou or Kyou would have been.
Which is precisely what I like to see - female lead characters who are more than capable of finding someone new (and quite possibly better - after all, Tomoya is a sound enough guy, but he's hardly flawless) down the line, and who aren't dependent on the male lead protagonist for their future success/happiness/etc.
ep 18
im sure tomoyo was fond of tomoya as a friend and only to be surprised to find the reason why he was helping her. imo tomoyo and tomya are much more alike than nagisa as they both have/had family problems and could relate more to each other.
Reckoner
2008-02-17, 05:44
Wow now after seeing Tomoyo's route, I want to cry that the anime is only animating Nagisa's. Tomoyo is definitely the best of the girls, Kyou being second.
Ultima_Rasengan05
2008-02-17, 05:50
I like Tomoyo, and despite her past being a sad and twisted one, she still has the power to move on forward and acheive what she wants to acheive in school. Finding out about her past was really shocking and in a way, it can also relate to Tomoya...both of them didn't have the ideal family life, thoug I think Tomoyo had the ideal family life after that incident happened. I can also relate to her past and how I sometimes feel like venting out my stored up anger on someone or anything. I can't believe that she had that much anger in herself bottled up like that. She sure is strong compared to the other girls in Clannad.:)
I like Tomoyo, and despite her past being a sad and twisted one, she still has the power to move on forward and acheive what she wants to acheive in school. Finding out about her past was really shocking and in a way, it can also relate to Tomoya...both of them didn't have the ideal family life, thoug I think Tomoyo had the ideal family life after that incident happened. I can also relate to her past and how I sometimes feel like venting out my stored up anger on someone or anything. I can't believe that she had that much anger in herself bottled up like that. She sure is strong compared to the other girls in Clannad.:)
to forgot kyou is a close second in strenght to tomoyo lol.
anselfir
2008-02-17, 22:53
tomoyo is love. not only in context of this particular scenario but as a character.
Tomoyo... probably the most charming character ever.
Tomoyo... probably the most charming character ever.
:heh::heh::heh:
Tomoyo... probably the most charming character ever.
errr, in what way? :heh:
Its an opinion, but in my view, Tomoyo is one of the best characters because:
1) Her sapphire eyes are amazing
2) It is so funny when she hits Sunohara :heh: especially when his face gets censored from all the pain.
3) She has a calm, cool personality
4) She's one of the prettiest characters in my opinion
germanturkey
2008-03-02, 14:03
her eyes are really pretty..
but her handling of herself in Tomoyo After is what makes me really like her. its a much better look at her character (obviously) and puts her even about Kyou in my book.
Deathscyther
2008-03-02, 14:12
Her eyes are beautiful yes^^
I find Kyou and Nagisa cuter though^^;
dave1992
2008-03-27, 10:13
Sometimes there's a BIG line between Cute and Beautiful.
Nagisa and Ryou is cute.
Kyou and Tomoyo is beautiful.
Can anyone explain abt this..?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZxtg7Uqokshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZxtg7Uqoks
Favorite girl out of the series. end of story :) lol
Can anyone explain abt this..?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZxtg7Uqokshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZxtg7Uqoks
it must be the PV for the tomoyo after OVA that will be released.
it must be the PV for the tomoyo after OVA that will be released.
Wat is PV? o.o
Is that OVA gt connection with Clannad or is it Tomoyo After: Its Wonderful life?
Kaisos Erranon
2008-06-16, 23:47
Wat is PV? o.o
Is that OVA gt connection with Clannad or is it Tomoyo After: Its Wonderful life?
PV means "preview".
It's the latter half of Tomoyo's route from Clannad. It's not Tomoyo After.
PV means "preview".
It's the latter half of Tomoyo's route from Clannad. It's not Tomoyo After.
oo thx
Im sure the route will be bad ending =.=" praying hard Tomoyo after will be animated x.x
Mecha_Trueno
2008-06-17, 12:09
it feels funny hearing tomoyo calling him by tomoya, more used to her calling him okazaki.
btw, who's the voice at the end saying "do you know what kind person you're going with"?
remember spoiler tags;)
it feels funny hearing tomoyo calling him by tomoya, more used to her calling him okazaki.
btw, who's the voice at the end saying "do you know what kind person you're going with"?
remember spoiler tags;)
I know...
but dunno if it correct
narrator :heh:
The vice president of the student council I'd think, which hasn't had a speaking role in the series so far
blitz1/2
2008-06-17, 17:04
I know...
but dunno if it correct
narrator :heh:
narrator of course.
But I think
Person speakingIt's the vice president but to go beyond that. I think it's Jun Fukuyama AKA Lulu's seiyuu.
Mecha_Trueno
2008-06-17, 17:15
The vice president of the student council I'd think, which hasn't had a speaking role in the series so far
LOL @ my typos:heh::heh::heh:
anyway...
vice president of the student council? i'm pretty sure he had a speaking role in the tv series, the one who was against nagisa starting the engekibu... or was that someone else... or was that part explained in third person by nagisa? cant remember now:heh:
Kaisos Erranon
2008-06-17, 17:19
LOL @ my typos:heh::heh::heh:
anyway...
vice president of the student council? i'm pretty sure he had a speaking role in the tv series, the one who was against nagisa starting the engekibu... or was that someone else... or was that part explained in third by nagisa? cant remember now:heh:
It was related to Tomoya by Nagisa. The vice never appears in the show proper.
Mecha_Trueno
2008-06-17, 17:43
Why are we talking in spoilers?
because whoever linked that youtube put it in a spoiler, and since we're still on the same subject, i just followed suit and went along with it
@Mecha Trueno
That was the previous president of the student council
because whoever linked that youtube put it in a spoiler, and since we're still on the same subject, i just followed suit and went along with it
:frustrated::frustrated:ME?! .... i just wanted Tomoyo will be with Tomoya :heh::heh:
11thsquad
2008-06-18, 02:35
Tomoyo and Tomoya should be a couple They look great together and so do there names LOL :heh:
Tomoyo and Tomoya should be a couple They look great together and so do there names LOL :heh:
i totally agree with you, too bad he didnt meet tomoyo 1st when he arrived at the school :(.
i totally agree with you, too bad he didnt meet tomoyo 1st when he arrived at the school :(.
yeah :( means in the end Tomoya will end up with Nagisa T.T
LustfulEnvy
2008-06-27, 21:21
They always go for the first person they meet and fall in love with, rarly do they ever pick someone else, of course there are some exceptions.
Kaisos Erranon
2008-06-27, 21:31
They always go for the first person they meet and fall in love with, rarly do they ever pick someone else, of course there are some exceptions.
Such as this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FirstGirlWins) versus this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LastGirlWins)?
They always go for the first person they meet and fall in love with, rarly do they ever pick someone else, of course there are some exceptions.
or atleast the ones they remember, he did forget all about kotomi.
LustfulEnvy
2008-06-28, 01:41
Such as this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FirstGirlWins) versus this (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LastGirlWins)?
Yup, those are great examples.
Kotomi didn't even disapear, its like Tomoya is ignoring her wierd. They really don't talk much after her arc finished.
Tomoya already new Kyou before everybody else since they were in the same class in the past, but I guess we're refering to the start of the anime and not the irst person to have a relationship with.
my conclusion
means Tomoyo after created to make Tomoyo fans not so dissapointed...;x
but I nth to say for the end of the story...
Justin Kim
2009-03-24, 18:48
OVA was a pretty interesting watch, now to only play the game T_T that's supposively having some kind of halt. They indeed would make a great couple though. The double T's:D.
The double T's:D.
In Japan, that particular paring is known as TomoTomo.
- Tak
Justin Kim
2009-03-26, 04:39
But yeah now it's like I rooted for Tomoyo and Nagisa at the same time. Although if Key does announce a Tomoyo After movie, I will definently be interested in rooting for her. The artwork looks completely different then what I saw in Clannad After Story. Tomoyo looks much more brighter, less fearsome looking, and more like the timid girl but with a strong side to her. Tomoya always looks different in the manga, like entirely different. I loved the Tomoyo Arc they input in Clannad, but I hope they do a continuation, not an entire serialization of what happened between Tomoya and Tomoyo.
I only seen parts of Tomoyo's character so I'm probably going to get this wrong, but does it seem like Tomoyo has the hardest life of all the characters? In one sense, she is one of the strongest characters so she will get through it, but doesn't it seem like she always end up alone?
From the ending of Tomoyo's game to the lonely scene in Clannad After, it looks like Tomoyo keeps pressing forward - but at the cost of leaving everything she has behind. Her strong character unfortunately has a price which looks like she's the only one who can bear it. In a way, her life is always changing and changing never really standing still. Yet, she stands strong.
If the other characters had her life, it seems like they would have a nervous breakdown.
I only seen parts of Tomoyo's character so I'm probably going to get this wrong, but does it seem like Tomoyo has the hardest life of all the characters? In one sense, she is one of the strongest characters so she will get through it, but doesn't it seem like she always end up alone?
From the ending of Tomoyo's game to the lonely scene in Clannad After, it looks like Tomoyo keeps pressing forward - but at the cost of leaving everything she has behind. Her strong character unfortunately has a price which looks like she's the only one who can bear it. In a way, her life is always changing and changing never really standing still. Yet, she stands strong.
If the other characters had her life, it seems like they would have a nervous breakdown.
Tomoya tried... :heh:
I agree with you. The shit she has to bear is simply too much.
Of course, its another story if you selected her route in the game, where I find TomoTomo to be perhaps the best matched couple due to their similarities. Both of them came from a broken family, both of them helping each other to cope with life and eventually form a family of their own.
But its not that she left everything behind, its also Tomoya wanting to share her sorrow, her difficulties and her burden. That is what Tomoya did in Tomoyo After, and depending on the route you select as a player, Tomoya could die from his commitment.
But regardless of the ending, Tomoyo eventually gained herself a family she can love. So she is, at least by that point, not alone.
- Tak
companies do tend to make sequels for characters which staff liked and felt were not done justice or were very popular with the fan base (like tick-tack for Shuffle)
on another note I prefer Tomoyo simply cos i used to get their names mixed up :P (heh not paying attention)
Original Video Animation. In few words, you can see it as a series/episode that is directly released to DVD/VHS/etc without first being broadcasted on TV
Original Video Animation. In few words, you can see it as a series/episode that is directly released to DVD/VHS/etc without first being broadcasted on TV
Thanks!:D
BTW, Tomoyo is beautiful.
personally tho during the part when Tomoya was getting all angsty about not being good enough for Tomoyo and dragging her down I was literally SCREAMING at him "WHY DONT YOU ****ING MAN UP THEN AND STOP BEING SUCH A FAILURE* that was how emotional i got xD
hell I was certain I had hit a bad end until the last coupla minutes
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