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ChibiDusk
2003-11-22, 15:17
Hm, some questions about this series...
Do you need to have sen the previous series in order to understand this?
What is the main plot?
who are the characters?
Lord Raiden
2003-11-22, 16:03
If you've seen Tenchi Muyo, you'll know. If you haven't...well, there's a HUGE amount to explain. I suggest renting Tenchi Muyo and watching that first. For one, it's funny, and two it will fill in a lot about the OVA. Far more than can be explained here.
ChibiDusk
2003-11-22, 16:51
Ive seen the 1st and 2nd movies, and most of the
Tenchi universe and like 2eps of Tenchi Muyo! [I think it was the furst season]
Then you are good to go..:)..
Garylisk
2003-11-22, 18:20
Incorrect, he's not good to go.
First of all, when watching the Tenchi OVAs, you must not compare them at all to Tenchi Universe or the movies. Those are not connected to the OVA at all.
What you really should do is rent or buy (The OVA box is worth the purchase IMO ;) ) the first two OVAs and watch them (That's episodes 1-13). THEN once you've watched that, you can watch OVA3 episode 1 (Which is actually episode 14).
If you wanna learn more about Tenchi Muyo than even the anime can show you, plus all the continuity stuff, check out the Tenchi Muyo FAQ at http://www.astronerdboy.com/tenchi/
It's really helpful.
Actually to follow the first episdoe of the OVA3 Chibi is good to go if he has seen most of the Tenchi Universe :D..I dont want to spoil it for Chibi, but since my vanity is on the line..Chibi, dont read the spoiler if you dont wanna be spoiled..
Tv series and the First OVA has very little difference in the begining of their respective series except for Ryohki's introduction..Although the first episode of OVA 3 has some flashback from the OVA 1 series, a viewer still can follow the episode if he/she has watched the tv series
Chibi, if you havent seen the previous OVA series my recommendation is to get the videos/dvds because the story is much more enjoyable in the OVA..
Garylisk
2003-11-23, 04:44
Actually to follow the first episdoe of the OVA3 Chibi is good to go if he has seen most of the Tenchi Universe :D..I dont want to spoil it for Chibi, but since my vanity is on the line..Chibi, dont read the spoiler if you dont wanna be spoiled..
Tv series and the First OVA has very little difference in the begining of their respective series except for Ryohki's introduction..Although the first episode of OVA 3 has some flashback from the OVA 1 series, a viewer still can follow the episode if he/she has watched the tv series
Chibi, if you havent seen the previous OVA series my recommendation is to get the videos/dvds because the story is much more enjoyable in the OVA..
People who have watched the TV series, and then watch OVA3 and don't realize they have nothing to do with one another will be confused, if by nothing else, then by the simple question
"Why is Kiyone Tenchi's mom? Is that the same Kiyone?"
(OK so it was 2 questions.)
More questions will come to their minds... like
"Wasn't it Washu that was in that cave, and not Ryouko?", "Who's this Lady Tokimi person?", "Why does Ryo-Ohki look like a little girl sometimes?", "Who is Dr. clay?"
And to continue, here's some questions that will more than likely come up as the 3rd OVA goes on...
"Who is Zero and why is she a part of Ryouko?", "What are Light Hawk Wings?"
So yeah... that's about all I gotta say on THAT matter.
Trust me. Watch the first two OVAs before venturing into OVA3, you'll thank yourself later.
I definitely agree with Gary on this one. I remember when i first got into Tenchi about how confused i was with the ova and the tv series. Til i found out that they are nothing alike and are not related besides the characters.
Chibi for sure see the original ova's 13 eps before watching the 14th eps aka Ryo-Ohki. It won't cause any confusion that way. But do watch the tv series eventually becuase it may be annoying sometimes but the tv series can actually be really funny at time too.
And if you like pain, you can always try Tenchi in Tokyo.
Garylisk
2003-11-23, 08:44
I definitely agree with Gary on this one. I remember when i first got into Tenchi about how confused i was with the ova and the tv series. Til i found out that they are nothing alike and are not related besides the characters.
Chibi for sure see the original ova's 13 eps before watching the 14th eps aka Ryo-Ohki. It won't cause any confusion that way. But do watch the tv series eventually becuase it may be annoying sometimes but the tv series can actually be really funny at time too.
BTW, Xiandu, the OVA has always been called "Ryo-Ohki", it just never got tranferred to the English title. They decided plain old "Tenchi Muyo!" was better.
Animaniac
2003-11-23, 09:59
And if you like pain, you can always try Tenchi in Tokyo.So true...
The sad part is I didn't hate Shin Tenchi (Tenchi in Tokyo), It's actually pretty entertaining when you're flat out drunk.
And on topic, I want to post praises to all those fansubbing OAV 3. Now, while I know people say that it's a sure thing for licensing, but it's nice to see what happens. Besides, I enjoy collecting the dvds, so the licensor isn't loosing my money at least.
People who have watched the TV series, and then watch OVA3 and don't realize they have nothing to do with one another will be confused, if by nothing else, then by the simple question
"Why is Kiyone Tenchi's mom? Is that the same Kiyone?"
(OK so it was 2 questions.)
More questions will come to their minds... like
"Wasn't it Washu that was in that cave, and not Ryouko?", "Who's this Lady Tokimi person?", "Why does Ryo-Ohki look like a little girl sometimes?", "Who is Dr. clay?"
And to continue, here's some questions that will more than likely come up as the 3rd OVA goes on...
"Who is Zero and why is she a part of Ryouko?", "What are Light Hawk Wings?"
So yeah... that's about all I gotta say on THAT matter.
Trust me. Watch the first two OVAs before venturing into OVA3, you'll thank yourself later.
Ehhhh..A counter arguer and a good one at THAT..I am getting excited.. *flexing my fingers as I am brewing a fresh pot of coffee*
The first episode of the OVA3 is not a follow up to the previous OVA series..This episode was pretty much self-explanatory with a new theme which we get a clue of in the 3rd quarter of the episode..Tenchi has all those flash back from the previous series to set up the new theme..The flash-back helped the old viewer to get into sync and the new viewers will get some idea of what's going on even if they never saw a single episode of the previous OVA series...That is why each flash-back taken from particular episode reiterated the main point of the episode so firmly (basically told the whole story). Might I add Chibi has followed the Tenchi Universe series, so Chibi is not a new viewer. As for the answer to the other questions, Ryo-ohki has the ability to turn itself into a little girl why? a Tenchi Univers viewer will simply deduce if a cat can turn into a ship, it must have figured out way to turn into a little girl somehow In the previous OVA series a whole episode was wasted just to explain that.. As for Kiyone, I suspect an incest theme is in order which will reveal itself as the episode progress and providing the new viewer is patient :D)..
"Wasn't it Washu that was in that cave, and not Ryouko?", "Who's this Lady Tokimi person?", "Who is Dr. clay?"I have mentioned that in the little spoiler of my previous post about the intro of Ryokou..That is the only thing can off balance a Tenchi Universe viewer who is trying to follow the OVA3 without watching the previous 2 OVAs'..So if a Tenchi Universe viewer pay attention to the flash-back they will get their answer...Dr clay is just another villain who is trying to harm Tenchi's interest and that is all a new viewer will care to know:D..If the animators going to relate more material to progress the story of the OVA3; they, cleverly, will give us some more flash back..Afterall, they will try to attract new viewers with the old ones so the new viewers get curious enough to venture, as you put, into the old series..:D..That’s why I left all those other question unanswered..Beside those questions are irrelevant anyway at this point of the series..
Btw, a thunder clasp realization…while we argue Chibi may have already seen the episode:D
ChibiDusk
2003-11-23, 15:09
I have already known for quite some time that
The Tenchi series are not the same.
Anyways, Ill see if I can rent the first 2 OVA's then
Garylisk
2003-11-23, 16:14
Ehhhh..A counter arguer and a good one at THAT..I am getting excited.. *flexing my fingers as I am brewing a fresh pot of coffee*
The first episode of the OVA3 is not a follow up to the previous OVA series..This episode was pretty much self-explanatory with a new theme which we get a clue of in the 3rd quarter of the episode..Tenchi has all those flash back from the previous series to set up the new theme..The flash-back helped the old viewer to get into sync and the new viewers will get some idea of what's going on even if they never saw a single episode of the previous OVA series...That is why each flash-back taken from particular episode reiterated the main point of the episode so firmly (basically told the whole story). Might I add Chibi has followed the Tenchi Universe series, so Chibi is not a new viewer. As for the answer to the other questions, Ryo-ohki has the ability to turn itself into a little girl why? a Tenchi Univers viewer will simply deduce if a cat can turn into a ship, it must have figured out way to turn into a little girl somehow In the previous OVA series a whole episode was wasted just to explain that.. As for Kiyone, I suspect an incest theme is in order which will reveal itself as the episode progress and providing the new viewer is patient :D)..
"Wasn't it Washu that was in that cave, and not Ryouko?", "Who's this Lady Tokimi person?", "Who is Dr. clay?"I have mentioned that in the little spoiler of my previous post about the intro of Ryokou..That is the only thing can off balance a Tenchi Universe viewer who is trying to follow the OVA3 without watching the previous 2 OVAs'..So if a Tenchi Universe viewer pay attention to the flash-back they will get their answer...Dr clay is just another villain who is trying to harm Tenchi's interest and that is all a new viewer will care to know:D..If the animators going to relate more material to progress the story of the OVA3; they, cleverly, will give us some more flash back..Afterall, they will try to attract new viewers with the old ones so the new viewers get curious enough to venture, as you put, into the old series..:D..That’s why I left all those other question unanswered..Beside those questions are irrelevant anyway at this point of the series..
Btw, a thunder clasp realization…while we argue Chibi may have already seen the episode:D
Ah, but where's the fun in just deducing. A viewer should aspire to view. While your argument is solid, it's goal is not. THe goal of your argument can be seen on multiple levels. On one level, it's a good goal, since it allows someone who has not seen the previous two OVAs to view the new episode. However, it has problems as well. The viewer, if not required to watch the first two OVAs, would be missing out on some fun stuff. The point here isn't really an acquisition of knowledge, but an experience which is entertaining. Right?
Oh BTW, I liked episode 10 of the OVA, how can you call it a waste? Not only did it have good developmentbetween Tenchi and Ryouko, Washu and Ryo-Ohki, Washu and Ryouko, Sasami and Ryo-Ohki - but it also had just this incredibly cute feeling to it all the way through. It also provides the viewer with some non-essential, though very interesting, background material involving Ryouko and Ryo-Ohki's origins. Without episode 10, we would not know about MASU.
You wont hear a peep out of me since Chibi has decided to get the previous OVA series..Enjoyed arguing though, Gary-san ..:)
Garylisk
2003-11-23, 23:11
You wont hear a peep out of me since Chibi has decided to get the previous OVA series..Enjoyed arguing though, Gary-san ..:)
My last argument was pathetic.. I hadn't slept for over 24 hours.. brain was dulling.
So what is the release pattern for the new Tenchi eps. I see that one is out, but it has been out for a while now. Just like the first ep of Starship Girl Yamamoto Yohko.
Garylisk
2003-11-24, 15:13
So what is the release pattern for the new Tenchi eps. I see that one is out, but it has been out for a while now. Just like the first ep of Starship Girl Yamamoto Yohko.
Ep 1 came out September 18th, Episode 2 will come out December 21st, and episode 3 is scheduled to come out in February. However, ep 2 was delayed a month. So, if we figure ep 2 being delayed was a fluke, we can expect an ep every 2 months. Here's my estimated schedule if things go smoothly.
1 - September 18th, 2003
2 - December 21st, 2003
3 - February ?, 2004
4 - April ?, 2004
5 - June ?, 2004
6 - August ?, 2004
Cool thanks, where did you get that from. I'd like to go check it out.
ChibiDusk
2003-11-24, 19:04
well, Gary's the Tenchi Otaku!
There's spoilers here so be warned ahead of time. With that in mind,
Okay, how can Kiyone be 80 years old and be Tenchi's sister, in other words be Nobuyuki's daughter??? Is Nobuyuki like 200 years old or something??? :hmm:
Oh yeah, and Tenchi's family is WEEEEEEEEIIIIRRDD :D
ilal2ielli
2004-01-24, 04:40
in the ova continuity kiyone is the official name of tenchi's mom. tennyo is tenchi's sister, but how that works out i have no clue since she's supposedly 80 and nobuyuki is nowhere near that old.
anyway, here's a link to a tenchi muyo family tree that sorta clears things up. http://tmau.fateback.com/articles/family_tree.html
edit: hmph.. can't get spoiler tags to work?
edit: i can't spell late at night.
Garylisk
2004-01-24, 04:44
Actually, you're right on the money...
Nobuyuki is right around 200 years old. A little known fact among American fans is that Nobuyuki is also descended from Juraian heritage. It's pretty much given that he's one of Yosho's descendants.
I have not watched AniKraze's fansub of the episode yet, so I don't know how in-depth they got with their notes or anything, but there's quite a few references in episode 2 that refer to a set of Novels that were released in Japan as a prequel to the OVA series, titled "Shin Tenchi Muyo". (Popular translation: "True Tenchi Muyo", though it's also been translated as "The World of Tenchi Muyo" or "Tenchi Muyo in the World". I haven't looked into doing any translations of those texts, so I am not sure which is more accurate.)
In any case, if you want more info on the references, check out the FoT version of the episode, which we'll be releasing within the week. We're really close to being finished, all that's left is timing, encoding, and quality control... so needless to say, it's a little frustrating to have someone beat us to the punch :(
Not too worried about it though.
(Heh, just found out as I was posting this that they released it as a Matroska file again... I can't even watch that on my computer :P Too slow a machine hehe)
ilal2ielli
2004-01-24, 04:48
ah that explains tennyo's age, thanks for clearing that up garylisk, much appreciated. and btw, i, for one wanted to see your version, and i will download it for archival purposes :D
Garylisk
2004-01-24, 04:51
ah that explains tennyo's age, thanks for clearing that up garylisk, much appreciated. and btw, i, for one wanted to see your version, and i will download it for archival purposes :D
Sexcellent. :P
Tensai_kamen
2004-01-24, 06:40
So tenchi's sister name is Tennyo. But this developement really caught me by surprise
cos i didn't came across any info about her before and i thought that decendency between Nobuyuki and Yosho is too far away that it make him age more like a human rather than a jurai.
Back to tenchi sis, why didn't she appear in GXP. My prediction is maybe something will happen to her during the goddess war. ( hopefully not tho ). And another point is what the hell happen with tenchi's mom? Will she make an appearance too in this OVA? Can't wait to see what happen when tenchi met Seto later on .
DemonEye
2004-01-24, 07:53
in the ova continuity kiyone is the official name of tenchi's mom. tennyo is tenchi's sister, but how that works out i have no clue since she's supposedly 80 and nobuyuki is nowhere near that old.
anyway, here's a link to a tenchi muyo family tree that sorta clears things up. http://tmau.fateback.com/articles/family_tree.html
edit: hmph.. can't get spoiler tags to work?
edit: i can't spell late at night.
Tenchi's sister is not in this family tree. What does that meen?
okay...I'm assuming the majority of you watched the TV series...the TV series has NOTHING to do with the OVA/other TV series/Movies
The OVA series continue into eachother however...the 1st ova was OVA eps 1-6 with a Special at 7 then the 2nd OVA was 8-13.5 and the 3rd OVA that's now airing is now ep 14-whatever :)
They explained all the age stuff in the previous OVAs :)
PS the OVAs 1-2 are Licensed and you can get them on DVD :)
Wow, you must have a a really really old pc or something, since my 4-5yrs old AMD Athlon 900mhz plays the mkv file(s) just fine, and besides mkv is just a container, not a codec so it doesn't really take up much cpu power than a normal divx file.
Hi, I've been a fan of tenchi since it came out on VHS in europe around 1994-1995 till now and have been watching most of the tenchi series except for Pretty Sasami and Tenchi GXP. And if you have been following closely on Tenchi Muyo Ryo-Ohki ova there seems to be lacking quite alot of information of why how things are as they are. Everything related to the Masaki family seem to by a mysterious, like Tenchi's father and mother and his sister... And maybe tenchi's father is that old and maybe not, cause that I wouldn't know about since they havn't mentioned it in the ova as far I can remmember and neither do they mention how old his mother is, but before his sister appeared before us, I would suspect his father and mother would be around 30-40 somewhere. Anyhow so why wasn't his sister around when he grew up as well is also unknown and if I didn't know better, they just added her to spice things up abit. And how did Tenchi mother died and attacked by what? All I can remmember is that Yosho fought Ryoko and fell down to earth and Yosho won and sealed Ryoko in that cave instead of giving her to the galaxy police for an example. So everything is so uncertain when it comes to Tenchi ova and I think the author did that on purpose for those who really wanted to know more could find it out in other sources. And even if you found it out, maybe they'll change it as well since from what I've seen is that everything related to Tenchi OVA is so uncertain. It was probably really cool back in 1994-1995, but there are better shows out which is packed with the same genre as Tenchi imo. Anyways I my thoughts about Tenchi OVA is that its lacking a good plot which covers all the details about family tree/ history /age/ location etc
Wandering A.I.
2004-01-24, 13:20
Ugh...I really liked the previous Tenchi OVAs, I really tried to watch this...but the art was just too godawful ugly. I might have managed if the first ~13 minutes that I did watch weren't dull and boring as well - even Tenchi left at that point, lol. I'm just giving up on OVA3, I guess. They should take a page from Yumeria's book - the male harem leader can make grotesque comedy faces, but leave the women alone!
Garylisk
2004-01-24, 14:00
DemonEye: That family tree is really old and outdated. It's also based on some limited fan knowledge. Go here: http://homepage1.nifty.com/harinoue/tenchi/index.html - That page has soem better info, though all in Japanese. Click the first link under "OVA??" - That's the family tree.
Wantering A.I. - I have no idea what your qualm with the art is. I found it to be really well done. And you've found it boring? You must not be that big a Tenchi fan, I guess. Either that or you have trouble watching anime that doesn't have a "hook" in the first half of the first episode. This is the third OVA of Tenchi, and the first episode was actually episode 14, the new episode is episode 15.. so why should they have to hook people again? It's a continuation, not a new series. Having some B.S. gimmicky hook would make me feel cheated, personally. Just a waste of my time.
Wandering A.I.
2004-01-24, 18:45
>This is the third OVA of Tenchi, and the first episode was
Yes, I watched OVA3 ep 1. I was giving them one more chance. ;p
>And you've found it boring? You must not be that big a Tenchi fan
Please, the earlier eps were not "family chat time" like this one. If you think this is good Tenchi then you're the one who isn't a fan. What was episode 1? Ryoko freed and hunting down Tenchi, a wild demon that had to be dealt with. Episode 2? A Jurai princess comes, imprisons Tenchi, throw in a space battle to drive home the coming competition between the two ladies. Further eps had further awesome character intros or at least something happening.
Heck take one middle ep, the haunted hot spring one, and even there we had lots of characters running around and interacting in fun ways and clues about Sasami's secret - not to mention some hot looking girls. Does episode 15 compare with even the middle eps of the earlier OVAs? Not in the least. Instead of exploding over this fiancee thing Ryoko and Ayeka sit down and agree they can't cook, wtf? One of them should have stolen Tenchi and left or for godsakes done something.
The new characters have hardly any drama. It was meant to be supplied by this fiancee crap, but it's obvious Tenchi barely cares about that so I don't see why the audience should. Ryoko was first a demon, Ayeka a powerful and overbearing princess, now what is Noike? Someone who yells and nags at the dinner table. Yeah, that's impressive. If needing a hook means needing a new important character to be more than that, yes I do need a hook. The new characters sucking is almost as bad as Ayeka and Ryoko suddenly becoming passive losers.
>I have no idea what your qualm with the art is.
I'll grab some screen shots and update this later. ;p Displaying emotion is one thing, and an important one, but visually warping the characters into monsters to pull it off is a huge failing. Shows like .hack and Avenger managed to communicate impressive things with just slight frowns, eye movements, and subvocal sounds. Yumeria does a great job using character movements. Mizuki shakes when she's mad, Mone actually gets emotion across without words just using tone, her eyes, and body movements - like refusing to be touched and running away when rejected, etc. Or at the dinner table at the birthday party, you could tell she was happy just by the way she moved her head and smiled - and none of these shows had to resort to super deformed, grotesque character faces to get emotions across.
I've loved some of the Tenchi art so much in the past that I printed it out, traced it on a light box, colored it and then tried to create my own similar works and odes to the characters. I took extra time out from working on my portfolio for AP Studio Art just because their artwork was so beautiful and I wanted to try my own hand at it. I can tell you that won't be a problem with this new OVA. The art has been butchered to try and over dramatize a boring, poorly written episode and it's terribly uninspiring. Art and story should work together making strong, memorable characters - not these ugly things that stretch their faces constantly like some fun house mirror and lose themselves.
Gah, that's so long and unreadable already I better just leave out the screenshots. ^^ I'll add bolds, that will make it cool...
Garylisk
2004-01-25, 00:44
Sorry... I'll just keep my mouth shut since I come off as an asshole most of the time.
Since it's only episode 2, I'm waiting for the time when
Washu goes into goddess-mode and throws around some unbelievable smackdown together with Tenchi ^_^
And yes, the character designs are pretty bad. All they should've done is take the design, and put today's shading and CG techniques to them. That would've been better.
For story, it's too early to tell.
A reason why the 3rd OVA may seem lackluster could be cause the creator got bumped off of the project. This true?
Garylisk
2004-01-26, 05:16
Nope. In actuality, the creator, Masaki Kajishima, has even more control over it than he did before. He's overseeing most aspects of the project, and the character deesigns are actually closer to his own than before, as well.
Look here: http://fot.dyndns.org/pics/ova3dvd/ - for scans I made of the first DVD's cover/insert. The art on the front is done by Kajishima himself. Very nice, if you ask me :)
And yes, the character designs are pretty bad. All they should've done is take the design, and put today's shading and CG techniques to them. That would've been better.
I have to agree, I really don't like the character designs for the new OVAs. The SD faces the new girls make give me painful flashbacks to Tenchi in Tokyo, although Tenchi in Tokyo looked much better animated overall. I'll keep watching, just because I hope Kajishima has more up his sleeve than the tired "add more girls and stir" formula, but I'm not getting my hopes up anymore...
Garylisk
2004-01-27, 16:41
Episode 3 will be introducing Mihoshi's brother, so hopefully it'll start getting more interesting then.
Appearently the message which Mihoshi was going to send in episode 1, and then Z changed and resent, was supposed to be a normal message to her family. However, thanks to Z changing things around, Mihoshi's brother is now under the impression that Tenchi is really mean, and that Mihoshi has been mistreated. I don't know what's going to happen exactly, but it should be fun. Mihoshi's brother will go to Earth and want to fight with Tenchi.
Actually things aren't getting more interresting, but rather more complicated. Especially after all the ages are so unrealistic, it was probably cool back then. But fans like me who was 14-15 back when the first VHS tapes was released by pioneer in 1994-1995, we are much older now and you just get a more sense of realism after you've hit an age. To me Tenchi was all down hill since the Kagato incident, there hasn't been any cool fights or anything after that, rather more like a drama now and who gets to marry tenchi etc. so from being action based now it turns into more like a drama, which changes the atmosphere quite alot. And of course the animation has changed too, but what can one really expect of tenchi after so long wait for the next ova (ova3) to be? So far it's kinda depressing since it's all about family and his love life instead of the cool Tenchi who once fought his way to save his friends and planet. So I can only hope there will be some action soon before I die of boredom.
Kamui4356
2004-01-27, 19:47
I used to be a huge Tenchi fan, but the series is dated now. This 3rd ova doesn't help matters much. Still it isn't bad, so I will continue to download it, but I can't help think it could have been a lot better if not for the huge gap between this and the end of the 2nd ova. Also it seems to be moving rather slowly for only 6 episodes.
:topicoff: hmm...Seems that there's another Kamui. Does that make me a dragon of heaven or a dragon of earth? :confused: :heh:
I used to be a huge Tenchi fan, but the series is dated now. This 3rd ova doesn't help matters much. Still it isn't bad, so I will continue to download it, but I can't help think it could have been a lot better if not for the huge gap between this and the end of the 2nd ova. Also it seems to be moving rather slowly for only 6 episodes.
:topicoff: hmm...Seems that there's another Kamui. Does that make me a dragon of heaven or a dragon of earth? :confused: :heh:
:topicoff: Your are dead to mee geminiiiii
hmm.. so many surprises. i can't wait for the next episodes
Nobuyuki sure is 100+ years old, it's just obvious, and yes, he's a descendent of yosho (yosho is his grand-grandpa, i think) . i assume that the demon princess (Seto) also arranged his marriege with kiyone.
family tree from www.tenchizone.com (http://tenchi.no-ip.com/ova/charachters/tree.htm)
Kamui, the ovas aren't action based (im not saying that theres no action). light hawk wings are cool and all but tenchi isnt only action. we'll see fights, theres the 3-godess thing with zett-tokimi, washu-ryoko and tsunami-tenchi, so just wait
come on, only 2 ep. released and you people say that the series arent good anymore? there's a lot of things to be cleared.
i guess now we have a more exciting battle for tenchi's love, hopefully tenchi will CHOOSE one of them in this ova and i'm a ryoko fan :) . big trouble for him again.
..a special episode would be nice too, like ep. 7, with no introductions, just a "normal" day in tenchi's life
oh... and i agree with the art being poor... it's unfamiliar and i don't like it (ugly). ova1 was the best
goldenthal
2004-01-28, 10:19
I am a newcomer to this Tenchi Anime and this OVA is the first I had seen.
Does anyone know what is the correct Tenchi anime sequence that one should watch in order to understand?
Thanks for any help!
I am a newcomer to this Tenchi Anime and this OVA is the first I had seen.
Does anyone know what is the correct Tenchi anime sequence that one should watch in order to understand?
Thanks for any help!
OVA 1
OVA 2
Tenchi muyo GXP (chronologically it happens 1 year after OVA3 ends)
though this series are licensed you can get it on DVD/VHS
there's some TV series but it has nothing to do with the ovas. anyway, they are:
Tenchi Universe
Tenchi in Tokyo
Magical Project S
Pretty Sammy OVA
hanyou_gez
2004-01-28, 12:38
I'm a pretty big Tenchi Muyo fan. Have been ever since I watched it, all those years ago.
The correct order to watch Tenchi Muyo is a little different than the above poster's. @_@
Tenchi Muyo OVA 1 and 2, first.
Pretty Sammy OVA was a spin off OVA from the special episode 14 from Tenchi Muyo OVA2.
Then Pretty Sammy TV Series spun off from the OVA of it, and came either before or after, Tenchi Universe.
Then Tenchi in Tokyo, Tenchi Muyo GXP and then the new Tenchi Muyo OVA3.
There is also the three movies. Only Tenchi in Love is set in the Tenchi Universe series. The other two movies are connected the OVA. (Daughter of Darkness and Tenchi Forever. Although, the art for Tenchi Forever is very much like the art in Tenchi in Tokyo, but no matter. The movie had a more serious theme than the others, which made up for it. ^-^)
Anywho. I was wondered about OVA3 before it was released. I know that the OVA series was continued with the manga, and that even Kiyone, Mihoshi's partner came into at one point. (reason why she is in Daughter of Darkness)
I would love to read the manga, as I'm sure it explains a heck of a lot. But I wonder if the 3rd OVA stems from that also...
If people would remember, the actual Kagato fight only spanned 2 OVA episodes. The rest was character development.
I also favor the first OVA art, it was truly beautiful. But art of a series doesn't count towards absolutely everything, if the story develops well enough. I can only hope things will be explained through out the OVA.
I've always liked the mystery of Tenchi Muyo OVA, and I perfer the histories of the characters, as opposed to Tenchi in Tokyo and Tenchi Universe. It gives it more spice, a more interesting story.
The age gaps makes sense also. I think Tenchi's father and mother had Tennyo way, way, before Tenchi was born. It makes sense that she would leave earth, as people around her aged and she did not, like it mentioned in episode 2.
*stops the rambling*
I'll keep watching the OVA3 though. ^-~
Garylisk
2004-01-29, 00:46
But if you just want to watch the main storyline without any sort of confusion, and not getting too entwined into the spinoffs, just watch the OVAs in order. 1, 2, then optionally you could watch GXP since even though it happens after OVA3, it was aired in Japan before OVA3 was even being worked on. Anyway, after all that, watch OVA3.
Anything else is optional since it wasn't written by Masaki Kajishima, thus has no part in his OVA continuity. (Not to say that Hasegawa's Tenchi continuity isn't good.. it is. It's just that Kajishima's is considered the "main" continuity, and it's the continuity of OVA3. But let's not confuse new fans.. let them decide whether they want to delve into/memorize all the spinoff/continuity crap :P )
Hi_There
2004-01-29, 16:53
I agree with Kumai that the Oavs have been going down after Oav ep 6.
Probable reason IMO is that Hasegawa wasn't the script writer after ep 6.
Kajishima created the story/characters, but Hasegawa excecuted those factors most excellently.
2nd OAV ep7-13 were pretty good due to the atmosphere-music, comedy etc etc. Not as good as the first OAV though IMO, but very good.
3rd Oav(so far) just feels stale. The events in the first episode IMO could have been handled better and could've had a better 'flow'. Atmosphere was lacking-due to less than 'good' BGM. There also really was no sense of 'wonder' that the episodes left for me.
Ep 15 was too compact with plot facts and characters, it was choking me.
I'm a Tenchi fan, and for this reason I'm going to continue watching it 'till the end, but honestly, if I was a new to it, Oav3 ep 2 would probably put me off until the full thing came out.
The animation though clean cut really put me off. The colour palate seems dull unlike the beautiful, vibrant water colours in the first 2 OAVs. The character's 'morphing' in and out of monster mode is very annoying and makes me cringe.
Unless they do some major adjustments for the later episodes, I'm sorry to say but things look bleak, especially concerning more than noticeable factors: Event execution, atmosphere, music, animation execution, sheer entertainment value.
Well, that's my oppinion
On a side note.
GXP bored the hell out of me, and it had such a horrible finale.
I read all these praises to Kajishima... I respect him, but praises? I don't think so
trademark
2004-01-30, 02:56
I've been a tenchi fan and have been an anime fan since. It's a great series and the OVA seems to be enjoyable as well.
One thing I don't "like" or should say ..um...well anyways. I have almost no understanding of this tenchi history or whatever. I only understand what the current thing is like the 3 goddesses or something and jurai or whatever. I'm not even quite sure. I'm not really clear on the character history or the family tree history. In a lot of messages, people mention GXP? Is that linked to tenchi muyo? Oh yeah, Tennyo is 80 years old...but nobuyuki, her father, doesn't seem like he's even 80 and he's mostly an earthling looking at the familiy tree. ???. yeah. So why is tenchi so important too? and the whole light hawk wing dealio from the first part...really wasn't explained. I didn't understand the Kagato thing either and what he was talking about sometime and then when I look at the family tree, he's a clone. I thought washuu tutored him or something and he's only a clone? And I've never heard of most of the characters in the family tree. Are they in a manga or something of tenchi muyo? So does the manga already cover Tenchi season 3? AHHH!!!!????!!!?? SO CONFUSING!!!
Well, those are just a small peek of all the questions I have. I don't expect somebody to answer them all...I just hope...and for them to answer more..heheh. It'd be REALLY NICE though if someone made an ULTIMATE TENCHI MUYO PAGE. That explains all this stuff and all the stuff. In English too, because unfortunately, I can't read Japanese. Yeah, long message. I have the Box Set for the first two seasons of Tenchi Muyo. I didn't even really understand everything in that....
p.s. Kagato died all wierd. You can cut off his hand his legs and they "grow" back or something? He has a shadow that can be "killed"? What the? Same with Ryoko? Cuz of the mass or something? What? Does Tenchi have a special tree to keep him from aging...? is that what keeps people from aging?
OK, I'm going to shut up. Peace. ^^ Tenchi fan.
Kamui4356
2004-01-30, 03:28
Are they in a manga or something of tenchi muyo? So does the manga already cover Tenchi season 3? AHHH!!!!????!!!?? SO CONFUSING!!!
The manga is a sort of semi-official continuation of the OVA. It has a lot of new characters, and concentrates more on the comedy aspect of Tenchi. However it does not address any of the events of the 3rd ova, which I think happens before the manga. (but I'm not sure about that)
Hi_There
2004-01-30, 03:31
See, some crazy stuff. It's really unfortunate when a show drives one of it's fans into the confusion state and rummage through the internet for more info.
Well, I can't say I know a Tenchi place but I'll try to answer some questions.
Someone mentioned that the creator said Noboyuki is around 200 yrs old.
Kagato is the clone of Washu's best friend Naja who was considered Washu's equal, that's why Kagato's so smart.
Gxp is a story about a boy that joins the GXP and gets his own Harem, some of which are related to Tenchi. It's supposed to take place a year after OAV3. Same universe, different show.
Ash Masaki
2004-01-30, 05:00
Well this episode was pretty interesting O.o It certainly enjoyed to drop one bomb after another on me in rapid succession lol.
I've been a Tenchi fan for a long time and I've never really lost my love of the series. Im rather happy with this 3rd OVA so far. Unlike a lot of people here, I like the new art and animation. The morphing thing is kind of odd but at least it's not overused. The new developments that have arisen are pretty interesting as well.
This 2nd episode raises many, many new questions. It almost seems like they tried to fit in as much as they could into one episode. I cant recall the last time I watched a show, anime or otherwise that revealed so much in just one episode O.o;
Cant wait for Ep3!
trademark
2004-01-31, 02:55
So is the history dating back to the first king of jurai and stuff from the manga? Isn't there more than one kind of tenchi mangas like their are animes?
I still don't quite understand this aging thing, or the family tree, and science of this universe. I've never even heard of another super power other than Jurai.
Where can I get this stuff?
I agree with Kumai that the Oavs have been going down after Oav ep 6.
Probable reason IMO is that Hasegawa wasn't the script writer after ep 6.
Kajishima created the story/characters, but Hasegawa excecuted those factors most excellently.
Oh, I didn't know about that but the feel from ep 1-6 was gone right after. It became dull and borish after that moment so I should've looked up for the script/screen writer. It all makes sense to me now since I didn't understand why the hype never showed up again.
I love the world of Tenchi Muyo and I believe I know almost everything you can learn from the first two OVAs. All this talk about what is going on within the OVAs is driving me nuts! I need to know the full story! :upset:
Can anyone throw me a life line? Is there a way to get those True Tenchi Muyo novels to find out what is going on? I plan to watch the 3rd OVA when they are all released, but what about the stuff outside of that? Help please.
:help: :help: :help: :help: :help: :help:
Sandoman
2004-03-24, 16:38
Words can't describe how happy I am that
at least a bit of the Tenchi story is still being
made. I've seen everything Tenchi, right up
to GXP. Now this new series is helping to
sate my appetite for a story I thought might
be completely finished. I just wish they'd come
out with a series starring my favorite character,
the great Professor Washu.
The animation team needs to do a better job because all the characters look like they have bags under their eyes. So far this new series really hasn't impressed me much, its nothing compared to the first 2 OVA's. Also the characters seems to be acting weird. Ryoko's personality seems alot different from previous tenchi series.
I heard its going to be 6 eps, and yet in the first 2 eps nothing much has happened. So now i'm wondering if their will be a 4th ova after this one.
I believe the director of the series said Tenchi will choose his girl in this one, and it will be one of the 5 girls. So i hope they don't make him hook up with some new girl or something because i think all fans will be uber pissed.
I really just want to see who he chooses, and i hope to god its Ryoko ^^.
Garylisk
2004-03-25, 02:50
The animation team needs to do a better job because all the characters look like they have bags under their eyes.
That's not the animation crew, that's the character designer.
I heard its going to be 6 eps, and yet in the first 2 eps nothing much has happened. So now i'm wondering if their will be a 4th ova after this one.
Episode 3 is really gonna pick up. Check out tenchi-web.com for a 3rd ep trailer.
Also, just remember OVA1. Kagato didn't show up, really, until episode 5 out of 6. (Not counting his brief appearance at the end of episode 4)
I believe the director of the series said Tenchi will choose his girl in this one, and it will be one of the 5 girls.
That's false.
Kajishima has already stated that there won't be much romantic element in the 3rd series. If a 4th series is made, that's when more romantic elements will happen.
hanyou_gez
2004-03-30, 15:45
Episode 3 is really gonna pick up. Check out tenchi-web.com for a 3rd ep trailer.
Also, just remember OVA1. Kagato didn't show up, really, until episode 5 out of 6. (Not counting his brief appearance at the end of episode 4)
This is what I also believe will happen. I have a rough idea of how they are taking the 3rd OVA. They might be introducing alot of new factors and ideas in the first 2 episodes, but it also counts as character and plot development. Hopefully, it will start to be smoothed out with the next episode, and things will start making more sense. ^-^;
I think it is essential that people watched the GXP series. I admit I have not watched all the series myself, but I did watch up to the part where the Original Tenchi Muyo characters were introduced in one episode. Alot of the new character and plot development in the 3rd OVA is related to GXP.
I think alot of the confusion wouldn't be around if people knew the connections between GXP and the OVA series.
Such as Tenchi's Grandfather being married to someone else...who was introduced and explained about in GXP.
That's false.
Kajishima has already stated that there won't be much romantic element in the 3rd series. If a 4th series is made, that's when more romantic elements will happen.
What Garylist says is true. I believe Kajishima stated that the 3rd OVA was to be about the three Goddess's. It was merely a rumour that maybe this OVA was the one where Tenchi finally picked a girl...
Also, Kajishima made it quite clear that he isn't anywhere near to the end of the Tenchi story. So I am expecting a 4th OVA at some point. hehe.
I don't post around animesuki's forum much by the way, but certain topics make me want to post. ^-^;;
Garylisk
2004-03-30, 17:25
Well, the episode 3 trailer was kind of a tease, since a lot of what happens in the trailer is later in the episode, almost near the end.
The focus of this episode is...
...Tenchi faints for unknown reasons (There are reasons though... some glowing ball visits him in the night.. what it was isn't revealed yet though.), the girls freak out, Noike nurses him back to health. A lot of the focus of this episode is the deepening of Noike's character, as well as her relationship with Tenchi. Looks like we won't get any conflict until next episode. However, at least the gears have officially begun to turn... Misao is on hsi way to Earth to "protect his sister from Tenchi" - Should get interesting.
Expect FoT's fansub of the episode sometime in the next week or two.. then you all will be able to check the episode out yourselves. :)
...Well, unless playing Twin Snakes interferes with my translation.... ;) - Kidding, Kidding!
Freddy C
2004-04-04, 12:33
tenchi OAV 3 is where its all happening, apparently tenchi has to finally make a decision between ayeka and ryoko, it's tough but id go for ryoko, she more fun and i think she genueinly loves tenchi more.
Garylisk
2004-04-04, 22:17
tenchi OAV 3 is where its all happening, apparently tenchi has to finally make a decision between ayeka and ryoko, it's tough but id go for ryoko, she more fun and i think she genueinly loves tenchi more.
You didn't read any of this thread, did you? We already discussed this earlier.. in fact, it's even on the same page as your post. In fact, it's only 2-4 posts up from yours.
I believe the director of the series said Tenchi will choose his girl in this one, and it will be one of the 5 girls.
That's false.
Kajishima has already stated that there won't be much romantic element in the 3rd series. If a 4th series is made, that's when more romantic elements will happen.
What Garylisk says is true. I believe Kajishima stated that the 3rd OVA was to be about the three Goddess's. It was merely a rumour that maybe this OVA was the one where Tenchi finally picked a girl...
Also, Kajishima made it quite clear that he isn't anywhere near to the end of the Tenchi story. So I am expecting a 4th OVA at some point. hehe.
I don't post around animesuki's forum much by the way, but certain topics make me want to post. ^-^;;
hanyou_gez: BTW, my name ends with a K, not a T. :)
Argg!!! I just want Washu to finally pull all the stops out and unleash all sorts of smackdown!!! :D
Come'on, everyone wants to see this happen too. ;)
I downloaded the first two episodes of the new OVA and I must say I was surprised they pretty much ripped some of the animation from the original OVAs... I expected that at the very worst they might have re-animated the flashbacks...
So this OVA series is gonna be 6 episodes long... hmm... It looks good never the less... I've never watched the GXP series, is it a crucial series to watch to understand the 3rd OVA series?
Garylisk
2004-04-07, 19:27
Nope. Despite that GXP happens AFTER OVA3, the only advantages to having seen GXP is:
1. You've already been acquainted with Noike.
2. You know EXACTLY what kind of person Seto is, so her meddling comes off as even more comical.
3. You already know that ...
Katsuhito reveals his true form to Tenchi in OVA 3.
4. You already know that Airi hates being called "obachan" - Plus you already know that she is...
Tenchi's grandmother.
That's about it, really. Everything else is still new. However, if you were a well-informed Tenchi fan, you'd also already know...
That Noike came to Earth to be Tenchi's fiancee by orders of Seto. Tennyo was still a big shock for me, though ;)
hanyou_gez
2004-04-08, 19:44
hanyou_gez: BTW, my name ends with a K, not a T. :)
Heh. My mistake. ^-^;;
SpaceCowboy
2004-04-22, 16:08
I was browsing the Anime Suki site and found Tenchi Muyo! Ryo Ohki! OVA 3 (3 eps.)
These are the only Techi Muyo! episodes on the site.
AniDB says there are 19 eps. in three OVAs but it only shows 16 eps. and 1 special. :confused:
Also, I can only seem to find the 3 OVA 3 eps. as BitTorrent files.
Does anyone know how many eps. there are and where/if I can get the other episodes?
The first two OVAs have been availavle for ages now, long enough to be considered classics, which they are. Go down to your local video store, Media Play, Best Buy, or whatever and pick up the DVD set that contains the episodes you're looking for.
If you meant 'Where can I find hte rest of the third OVA episodes?', well, sorry, can't help you. I imagine the fansubbing group is still putting them out, so you'll have to wait until they are done subbing each episode.
I was browsing the Anime Suki site and found Tenchi Muyo! Ryo Ohki! OVA 3 (3 eps.)
These are the only Techi Muyo! episodes on the site.
AniDB says there are 19 eps. in three OVAs but it only shows 16 eps. and 1 special. :confused:
Also, I can only seem to find the 3 OVA 3 eps. as BitTorrent files.
Does anyone know how many eps. there are and where/if I can get the other episodes? Tenchi Muyo Ryo Ohki has 3 OVAs:
OVA 1 - Episodes 1-6 plus a 7th special episode.
OVA 2 - Episodes 8-13.
OVA 3 - Episodes 14-19.
OVA 3 is a work in progress, and only episodes 14-16 have been released so far.
Episode 17 release date is around last week of May (can't recall the exact date).
OVA 1 and 2 have been licensed by Geneon Entertainment, so asking for torrents here is a big no :).
If you want to find more info on the series, I would recommend you to look at these 2 sites: Tenchi Muyo! Another Universe (http://tmau.cjb.net/) and Tenchi Muyo! AIC BBS FAQ (http://www.astronerdboy.com/tenchi/).
Garylisk
2004-04-26, 04:58
well, looks like instead of episode 4 of OVA3, we're getting a special, which is titled "Tenchi Muyo!: Himitsu Nabe (Entertainment)" (Quick translation of Himitsu Nabe: Secret Saucepan - I like the ring of it ;) )
Anyway, it's coming out on May 28th, and it looks like it' sgonna have all the OVA characters as well as GXP characters. The DVD cover has a circle of characters on it, starting from the 12:00 position and going clockwise, there's Amane, Aeka, Washu, Ryo-Ohki, Fuku, Mihoshi, Ryouko Balta, Sasami (Holding... something... Maybe a nabe?), Ryouko, and Kiriko.
http://fot.dyndns.org/image/himitsu_dvd.gif
I dunno, I'm looking forward to ep 4 since the plot's finally moving along at a good speed, but this will probably prove to be highly entertaining. I love it when Tenchi (Or anime in general) doesn't take itself too seriously ;)
criderjg
2004-07-18, 20:42
I believe that the current consensus is that OVA 3 #4 will be released in Japan on Septermber 17, 2004. There's no telling how long it will tell for fansubs to hit the U.S., and they won't be on Animesuki because it's been licensed by Funimation. Man, what a wait!
:hmm: :mad: :( :twitch: :upset: :eek: :bash: :frustrated:
Garylisk
2004-08-25, 11:42
I've recieved several emails/PMs from various people all telling me that the OVA3 lsicense was a rumor started at AX, and that it's not true, and that they have recieved email from Funimation stating that it's not liscensed.
I'm just about sick of these messages, so I have sent my own email to Funimation, alerting them of my problem, and asking them for as much info as they can give me about the liscense.
But still, if the liscensing IS false, I wonder if someone else is looking into getting the show...
Still, I highly doubt it. My guess is that I'll either recieve no email back, or an email stating that it's liscensed.
Anyone here have any info to support or deny these messages I've been recieving? None of these people seem to want to show me these mysterious emails from Funi :P
vipboy28
2004-10-12, 16:39
When does the new Tenchi Muyo! Ryo-ohki ova 3 coming out in america.... i mean i searched all over to download it but its lisence so im screwed if anyone knows where i can dl it at help or anything help... sorry huge tenchi muyo fan...
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