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Klashikari
2007-10-29, 14:12
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Episode 17 : Summary and Screencaps (http://animehistory.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-kai-episode-17-matsuribayashi-hen-4-bouryaku/)
edit: screencaps are now uploaded
Much like last week, this episode covered nicely the events of the past. There is much less "time jump" and things go on a smooth pace, though they really skipped many thoughts and such (especially Rika's Mother and Takano)
That said, The "offer of the demon" in the part C was nice, as they had the good idea to hire Tanaka Rie (Suigintou Seiyuu) to voice the "mysterious" woman, offering this devil's deal.
I'm fairly curious how they will cover the last "pieces" episode, but they CAN involve the real "last piece"... (this person's will, with his anger... huhuhu)
I'm just wondering of something: why did they introduced Koizumi "issue" and the "deal" already? This was supposed to happen AFTER the murder of Houjou Tamae.
I don't think it is a time jump, so either a retcon, or they screwed the timeline.
USCPharmacist
2007-10-29, 14:18
10 because Darth Suigintou turned Takano into her apprentice, now Darth 34 shall unleash the full fury of the force on those mofos who laughed at her.
Wow. This episode covered a lot.
Good epsiode, but some elements are just sped up too fast, it's more like they are trying to get their points across instead of telling a story...especially for the events that involves the 2nd and 3rd year of Oyashirosama's curse...
As for Suigitou's appearance...I don't know if she's suppose to appear this early, but I guess since they are just jumping back and forth on the timeline then it's okay. The requirment for her appearance was the giant stuff doll, and they havn't shown that yet...
Next epsiode should be about 4th year and onwards...there's still alot of material they havn't covered yet...
Klashikari
2007-10-29, 17:14
the problem with the "suigintou" appearance is that... no it isn't a time jump.
Koizumi's "issue" appeared just right after 1980 case, when Takano is laughing crazily
Therefore, we can assume they changed the timing or they screwed up.
Not sure of the impact of this change, but it is very weird.
Obviously it's the timing. They aren't going entirely in chronological order
16 skipped Irie's past and Rika's dad explaining the syndrome. 17 went back and showed them. I'm sure 18 will go back and fill in the holes.
They didn't jump back, but they obviously jumped forward to introduce her...
then again, the whole Koizumi death-> lost of support -> mysterious woman in car order of event really doesn't matter if it happened after 3rd or 4th year...
Sterling01
2007-10-29, 18:10
The Raw's out
The Raw is LARGE
I hadn't read/played anything for Matsuribayashi-hen so this was an interesting ep. Seeing Rika's parents was interesting, as well as Miyo's last failure that drove her to desperation.
Good times!
Sterling01
2007-10-29, 19:17
I wish they had just shown Irie's past
Klashikari
2007-10-29, 19:19
Irie past would probably chunk like 5-10 minutes... i guess the mere mention was already "good"... well, sorta
Sterling01
2007-10-29, 20:00
After seeing how they portrayed THAT woman, I have to say
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4342/0001rq5.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0001rq5.jpg)
They made her look alot like Takano
Kang Seung Jae
2007-10-29, 20:03
An okay episode.
Trogdor Jube
2007-10-29, 20:04
What with all this laughter Takano has been doing you would think SOMEONE would be pretty suspicious of her.
Sterling01
2007-10-29, 20:12
No one is around her when she loses her cool and acts like that
Trogdor Jube
2007-10-29, 20:16
And I thought all villans never looked around before announcing thier evil plans/laughing maniacally.
Oh yeah and a good episode I wonder whats up with mizz silver.
-MotokoAoyama-
2007-10-29, 22:03
Nice episode. I liked this one more that the previous, but the problem is, it seemed a bit too fast. I found the second and third year curses to be happening a bit too suddenly. Hopefully, more holes will be filled in ep 18. I'm totally looking forward to knowing the motives of the mysterious woman (and nice voice work, "Suigintou"!)
Can't wait for the preview to come!
Preview for 18 is up.
http://www.animate.tv/special/higurasi_yokoku.php
k//eternal
2007-10-30, 01:39
Wh...what a bizarre preview...
Neko Haruko
2007-10-30, 06:13
indeed a bizzare preview... Wow! Hanyuu and Rkalook oike twihns~ How cute! andd Keichi is already there. Yay~
kingsky123
2007-10-30, 07:03
anyone want to attempt a rough translation of the 18'th preview ? what they sayin :P
Klashikari
2007-10-30, 07:12
Roughly :
Hinamizawa 5 Best pervert !
Number 5 is Maebara ichiro (Keiichi's father) who is a lolicon (mention of Rika, Satoko and hanyuu).
Number 4 is Irie Kyousuke, with his maid fetish.
Number 3 is Ryuuguu Rena (speaking of old men, etc).
Number 2 is Sonozaki Oryou, who is a SM lover :heh:.
Number 1 is Furude Rika (didn't get at all why she is at this rank.. something she REALLY loves... hum)
Rayneing
2007-10-30, 07:27
indeed a bizzare preview... Wow! Hanyuu and Rkalook oike twihns~ How cute! andd Keichi is already there. Yay~
Whose to say that isn't Hanyuu and Rika?
Trogdor Jube
2007-10-30, 17:16
I guess this is K1's appearence and I wonder what drove Satoshi to "trying" (since I beleive Satoshi is still alive) to claw his throat out. By the way it seems that Irie is driving Satoshi out of town IMO.
-MotokoAoyama-
2007-10-30, 19:16
wow, that was so nice! I love the pervert talk. Actually, I was so surprised that the word "hentai" was coming out of Hanyuu's mouth, and she even mentioned rika! Thanks for the rough translation, it was fun ^^ About the actual content of the preview, I guess Hanyuu doesn't look all that transparent, eh? She's also in a dress instead of her usual miko outfit!
Roughly :
Hinamizawa 5 Best pervert !
Number 5 is Maebara ichiro (Keiichi's father) who is a lolicon (mention of Rika, Satoko and hanyuu).
Number 4 is Irie Kyousuke, with his maid fetish.
Number 3 is Ryuuguu Rena (speaking of old men, etc).
Number 2 is Sonozaki Oryou, who is a SM lover :heh:.
Number 1 is Furude Rika (didn't get at all why she is at this rank.. something she REALLY loves... hum)
Suicide (Harakiri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku)--if I heard that correctly)
Takano has a very fine ***.
Suicide (Harakiri (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku)--if I heard that correctly)
Presumably in this case they are not referring to suicide but to the literal meaning of hara kiri.
Presumably in this case they are not referring to suicide but to the literal meaning of hara kiri.
Yeah, good point. Perhaps just "being disemboweled" would have been more accurate to have said--so Rika's into guro? *shudders* :uhoh:
ImpulseRAven
2007-10-31, 11:59
When is the sub comming out>.<
Miko Miko
2007-10-31, 12:46
When is the sub comming out>.<
i also want to know.
*waits*
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k//eternal
2007-10-31, 16:30
Yeah, good point. Perhaps just "being disemboweled" would have been more accurate to have said--so Rika's into guro? *shudders* :uhoh:
Well, we might not take it too seriously recalling why Oryou's fetish was assigned...
Well, we might not take it too seriously recalling why Oryou's fetish was assigned...
Well yes, none of the Dark Rika Corners are meant to be taken seriously.... doesn't make it less disturbing, though...:heh:
ryonyanko
2007-10-31, 23:56
That preview was wonderful... :D
-MotokoAoyama-
2007-11-01, 00:36
I love Dark Rika corner though, especially last week's ^^ this one is good too! hara-kiri...lmao :heh:
The Bloodlust Kid
2007-11-01, 03:02
Roughly :
Hinamizawa 5 Best pervert !
Number 5 is Maebara ichiro (Keiichi's father) who is a lolicon (mention of Rika, Satoko and hanyuu).
Number 4 is Irie Kyousuke, with his maid fetish.
Number 3 is Ryuuguu Rena (speaking of old men, etc).
Number 2 is Sonozaki Oryou, who is a SM lover :heh:.
Number 1 is Furude Rika (didn't get at all why she is at this rank.. something she REALLY loves... hum)
I have this urge to post this dungeon Shmion pic, but I know I will get banned for it.
Kang Seung Jae
2007-11-01, 03:19
Funny that the replies here are mostly about the preview :P
MrZombie
2007-11-01, 23:20
The preview was something else, that's why. :shudders:
Matsuribayashi-han has been quite the ride so far. These last two episodes have been especially cute. I know I can't wait to see the true arc begin, but it's nice to see all the pieces get animated.
Subs
http://rapidshare.com/files/67375715/Higurashi.no.Naku.Koro.ni.Kai.17.ass.html
FlareKnight
2007-11-04, 11:57
Well things are continuing to move forward. At least getting continuing afrimation that Takano is the source of all evil in the universe.
But anyways we're continuing to see how things develop to the usual start time of the series. The situation with Rika's parents is finally revealed and their deaths are a sad thing. Rika did what she could to help develop a cure for Satoko. When her mother it seemed had enough Takano has the parents taken out.
Get some more Dark Rika making sure Satoko gets the medicine and her recovery can start moving forward. The sooner we can get Keiichi over there and begin to see how the heck they are going to stop Takano the better.
Of course we'll have to handle the Satoshi situation. Finding out exactly what happened to him. Either Ire found some way to get him away and safe. That or Takano made sure to use him in her experiments.
Sterling01
2007-11-04, 12:35
No I think Sliver Takano is the source of all evil in the universe. And If Takano didn't have Rika's parents killed there wouldn't have been a cure
ImpulseRAven
2007-11-04, 13:37
Subs
http://rapidshare.com/files/67375715/Higurashi.no.Naku.Koro.ni.Kai.17.ass.html
how exactly does this work? do i have to dl the raw first or something?
Sterling01
2007-11-04, 13:45
Yes you do
Nice, now we actually know why droopy-chan wants it to blow up in everyones face.
Great episode, can't wait for the next.
i guess we meet up with the rest of the gang next episode. can't wait!
What, Tanaka Rie is in this show? I hope her character turns out to be just as evil as Takano.
So did I get that wrong or Satoko actually killed her parents? Boy, she must have been one really strong kid.
Good to know Takano's motivation better, though these three years she got to finish the research so felt like a plot device. And her superiors believing in the Queen Bee theory, yet not believing there were parasites did not make whole lot of sense.
orange.a
2007-11-04, 21:25
Don't almost all of Kai's previews are like that?
Btw WTH was that woman.... Stupid meddlers they should have let Takano rot in misery :upset: (but without them there would be no reason to continue the plot so I'm okay with it)
What, Tanaka Rie is in this show? I hope her character turns out to be just as evil as Takano.
So did I get that wrong or Satoko actually killed her parents? Boy, she must have been one really strong kid.
Good to know Takano's motivation better, though these three years she got to finish the research so felt like a plot device. And her superiors believing in the Queen Bee theory, yet not believing there were parasites did not make whole lot of sense.
In the first meeting, when Takano still had a strong backer, those who were skeptical of the parasite's ability to control the mind of the host kept silent. Once he was dead, his opponents took advantage of the power vacuum and nobody could support Takano without identifying themselves as not being supports of the new guys in charge. But in the second meeting nobody denied that the parasite existed, just that it was a significant threat.
Grimkill7
2007-11-04, 23:20
Interesting episode, but it went by fast as hell. The next ep. should cover plans for the Hinamizawa disaster, Rena's return, the 4th incident of the "curse", and Keiichi's arrival. Well if they follow suite, you should expect some serious K1 hype next episode.
FlareKnight
2007-11-05, 00:37
Btw WTH was that woman.... Stupid meddlers they should have let Takano rot in misery :upset: (but without them there would be no reason to continue the plot so I'm okay with it)
Yeah really who does that woman think she is ruining a moment of a miserable Takano? I'll give Takano credit in that she is one character in a long time I've really wanted to be completely obliterated from existence. Seems like an alliance anyways of evil going on here. Wonder how much of a role this woman will have in shaping the upcoming disaster.
Really though I feel for Rika more than anything. Didn't get to see her parents for very long but they seemed like good people. Father wasn't a bad guy at all and had some nice moments with Rika.
Hadn't thought much about Satoko's parents for most of the series. Never had much positive or negative feelings in that regard so their deaths didn't have much of an impact. But get to see even Satoko can do some frightening things when the disease gets too far. Seems her method is pushing people to their deaths. Both her parents and in one world Keiichi met that fate.
Grimkill7
2007-11-05, 01:50
I don't think I like how Takano's misery was only briefly shown. They skipped the whole scene with her and the executives at the restaurant where they step on her grandfather's research ~again~. Seeing her squirm and writhe in adult form screaming "Please don't step on it!" would have been quite the spectacle.
Also, we missed some prime Taka x Tomi moments. Mostly just inner dialogues inside Tomitake's head, but they really give you a sense of just how much he cares for her. Which just makes what she did to him all the more unforgivable. Seeing her get what's coming to her will be very enjoyable (I hope it will at least).
Another gripe about this is how they portrayed the Furudes' deaths. It was far too abrupt. Someone who hasn't read the pieces might not understand the situation in its entirety. This is mostly due to the fact that a lot of the interaction between Takano and Rika's mom was cut, as well as a phone call to Okonogi. Not only do they help you grasp the situation better, but it gives you a real feel for Takano's true character.
Minus the part about his mom, I was impressed that Takano was able to cover all of Irie's history in a 10 second speech :heh:. I applaud them for pulling it off, but that just shows you how many corners they have cut.
Poor Satoko, I never would've guessed that she killed her own parents...
I just love the way Rika's voice changes when she gets serious though. XD
Hopefully we'll also see more Hanyun in future episodes.
Rayneing
2007-11-05, 05:13
Poor Satoko, I never would've guessed that she killed her own parents...
It was pretty heavily implied in Kai 12 so this wasn't news to me.
It is still really sad though. :<
Klashikari
2007-11-05, 06:58
Considering the "lateness" of the subs, well kinda... late :heh:
that said, i think it was for the fittest:
Episode 17: Analysis (http://animehistory.wordpress.com/2007/11/05/higurashi-no-naku-koro-ni-kai-episode-17-analysis-thoughts-and-random-comments/)
16 pieces for a mere couple of 20 minutes... they were insane (not to mention about some piece shuffling... i didn't have much fun to identify all of them, guh).
*sigh*.. still 3 summaries to do...
Nemesis Zone
2007-11-05, 06:58
yeah iam sad about satoko she still a child after all
MKV is out.
still no good i cant understand a thing but all i get that takano killed rika chan parents:mad: but why ?
i wonder what happen to the AVI subbed
iam looking foward the next episode i hope keiichi back soon :)
Sorrow-K
2007-11-05, 07:18
What, Tanaka Rie is in this show? I hope her character turns out to be just as evil as Takano.
So did I get that wrong or Satoko actually killed her parents? Boy, she must have been one really strong kid.
Good to know Takano's motivation better, though these three years she got to finish the research so felt like a plot device. And her superiors believing in the Queen Bee theory, yet not believing there were parasites did not make whole lot of sense.
That's not a totally unrealistic thing in science, particularly, I'd imagine, well funded research that happens to be top secret. On one side of the coin, they'd have to give some compromises to prevent the researchers from even becoming tempted to make the research public. On the other side of the coin, if the results of the research turn out to be positive, then that's hardly three years wasted by any stretch of the imagination. I'm sure they're probably thinking to themselves that they could shut Takano up somehow later down the track after the project has expired, probably financially.
Anyway, on this ep, I am just completely left in awe at how good this episode was. This is just such an outstandingly well written and engrossing story.
Klashikari
2007-11-05, 07:20
yeah iam sad about satoko she still a child after all
Even if she was a teenager or an adult, she would be hardly at fault, considering the very peculiar circumstances.
still no good i cant understand a thing but all i get that takano killed rika chan parents:mad: but why ?
Since they are no longer supporting the research on Rika, Takano would hardly be able to go on with her research, and so her personal agenda to prove her grandfather thesis. Therefore, she obliterate them, as it would obviously "help" the research. (as they can provide money for her living, in exchange for the experimental tests)
i wonder what happen to the AVI subbed
iam looking foward the next episode i hope keiichi back soon :)
Subs were released yesterday, as usual like a "pre release", the ass file
Subs
http://rapidshare.com/files/67375715/Higurashi.no.Naku.Koro.ni.Kai.17.ass.html
just follow this link, and put it in the same folder where you have the raw. be sure to name it exactly how you raw is, with of course the .ass extension.
Then, just open the raw with Media Player Classic, and you should have the subs.
otherwise, wait for some time, hauu should probably be done with the Avi/MKV soon (generally 1-2 days after the release of the ass file)
Sterling01
2007-11-05, 07:25
There's one thing in the last part of the episode that they didn't show, it was the fact that Takano was drunk and that before the meetings her thought's were very distorted
Oh and Klashikari I like the 'Scientist Side' thing
dspr8_rugged
2007-11-05, 08:41
Wow. What a surprise. Facts coming one after the other. And the episode made so much emphasis on Miyo's evilness.
Of course, much is to be said about that mysterious woman at the end. Curious on who she is and what her objective is...
kingsky123
2007-11-05, 08:47
wow. the scene where dr.irie was drawing blood from rika was cool. she just suddenly got up and turned dark. Man if i were the doctor i would think twice before testing her again :/
Somehow, Takano's laugh annoys me...
Nice episode anyway, more pieces of the story.
Miko Miko
2007-11-05, 11:53
Cant wait to find out who that woman is!!! :D:D:D
Cant wait to find out who that woman is!!! :D:D:D
The mystery woman is Suigintou from Rozen Maiden who's here to wreak terrible vengeance upon the winners of SaiMoe. :heh:
Of course, much is to be said about that mysterious woman at the end. Curious on who she is and what her objective is...
She's probably a representative of the group that Takano mentioned to Tomitake back in episode 12, that wishes to trigger the Hinamizawa syndrome. Presumably they plan to do this as part of a power struggle against the group that decided to terminate Takano's project. Forcing that group to kill 2000 civilians would provide the former group with something that can be used to blackmail them quite effectively.
I have a question. So Rika is the queen and the trigger to the outbreak of the symptoms but then she died in Meakashi arc, the villagers didn't go berserk. Why was that?
Sterling01
2007-11-05, 21:51
Because Takano's theory is bullshit
KaneDragon
2007-11-05, 21:51
Takano probably made up the Queen-Bee theory for the lulz. Which makes me wonder: is the Great H Disaster really "Just as planned" for Takano? I mean, the whole thing gets covered up as a natural disaster (which was the original plan), which seems counterproductive at getting her grandfather's research really recognized. Unless, of course, it's the lulz again.
Sterling01
2007-11-05, 22:04
You have to understand everything Takano does is for the lulz... shes like an anon that browses 4chan
KaneDragon
2007-11-05, 22:09
A noble endeavor, indeed.
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/2386/takanobroccoliquizsu9.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=takanobroccoliquizsu9.jpg)
FlareKnight
2007-11-06, 01:24
I'm not sure if she completely buys the theory the whole way. Maybe at the start since it was part of her grandfather's theory but eventually she probably knew it was crap. But since she wanted it to be accepted she kept up that end to keep it as intact as she could. Maybe it was part of the syndrom at some point. But as it's been said the syndrome has deluded over time so it's not nearly so bad as it used to be.
Takano and lulz really go together quite nicely.
I'm not sure if she completely buys the theory the whole way. Maybe at the start since it was part of her grandfather's theory but eventually she probably knew it was crap.
The proposed mechanism was crap, but it was true that proximity to Rika would help keep the syndrome under control. But of course for most people they were never in any danger of the syndrome manifesting. They lived in a quiet small town without much in the way of stressors, except for Takano. With Rika's horrible death for a while they might be at increased risk, but as long as they knew who did it and accepted that answer, there would be no reason to start a paranoia spiral. But if Rika's death was unexplained, then very possibly you'd get a few more people destabilising. But they still wouldn't have more stress than the town experienced when they were waiting for an American invasion.
Which brings me to another question? Why does Takano have to cut open Rika to kill her? Is it her paranoid nature that thinks Rika's the 'queen' and that something might reside within her?
Rayneing
2007-11-06, 03:02
She is just killing her in a similar manner to the Watanagashi ritual, thats all.
Klashikari
2007-11-06, 05:03
Which brings me to another question? Why does Takano have to cut open Rika to kill her? Is it her paranoid nature that thinks Rika's the 'queen' and that something might reside within her?
Takano is a complete onigafuchi tale sucker, to the point her obsession creeps everyone, Tomitake included.
It is not exactly explained if it is "natural" or rather for her own means, but this "research" permits her to have actually a look at the dark past of Hinamizawa, and therefore, she can obviously manipulate the belief, with the curse and all.
Killing Rika with the "ritual of watanagashi" is "sacred" (well somehow...). If you do a combo with the fact Rika is the reincarnation of Oyashiro-sama, fitting the festival, without any culprit found => you got a magnificient result, where most villagers would go stressed and panicked, as their "wrathful god" would inflict misery and devastation against the betrayers etc. (as they dared to let her avatar die)
This is even more stressed after the "disaster", as show in the end of Tatarigoroshi and Himatsubushi, where some previous inhabitants begun to be insane etc, due the fear of the curse. (this is much better explained in the manga, especially Yoigoshi-hen)
Simply put, Takano is killing (no pun intended) several birds with one stone. (as this method is also a nice attempt to give more suspicions to a random fanatic, instead of military plotters and the like)
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Interesting. Thanks for clearing that up. It makes sense since the whole village places heavy beliefs in their "god" and if the so-called reincarnation is killed, they would start to panic and push themselves towards level 5. Very plausible theory given the anime is leaving that part opened.
ThinkTank
2007-11-06, 13:19
Is it just me, or do episodes 14-17 (18 is hopefully the end of the "excuse" arc) seem unnecsssary? Does anyone even really care about her past? I never found my self asking the question why she would do what she is doing. I thought there was more than enough explanation with a radical group that wants to use a biological attack.
It just seems to me that her backstory was not properly introduced and just abruptly stopped the show. It has really ruined a really good flow that season 1 and season 2 had going.
Klashikari
2007-11-06, 13:24
Is it just me, or do episodes 14-17 (18 is hopefully the end of the "excuse" arc) seem unnecsssary? Does anyone even really care about her past? I never found my self asking the question why she would do what she is doing. I thought there was more than enough explanation with a radical group that wants to use a biological attack.
Hah...? what are you talking about?
14-15 were only about her past only, and might give highlight how things were gone to such extremity.
The rest is actually giving truth how the past was done, as it has nothing to do with biological attack. you obviously didn't figure much.
It just seems to me that her backstory was not properly introduced and just abruptly stopped the show. It has really ruined a really good flow that season 1 and season 2 had going.
How would you actually show her backstory then? it cannot be shown before Minagoroshi at all, and it would be quite stupid to show it only at the end of matsuribayashi.
The script is done so the truth is unfold so the resolution can go on. If you don't have such things, the end wouldn't make sense without actually the reasons and the means at all.
kingsky123
2007-11-06, 13:27
yes. i agree with thinktank's part about the fact that the backstory and TIPs just suddenly came outta nowhere =/.
least make it have some sort of transition between scenes.
Sterling01
2007-11-06, 14:07
What TIPS are you talking about eps 15-18 are Pieces
The pieces are required to tie together many loose ends. Without them, many things would be left unresolved.
- How the dam manager was killed and why one of the assailants went missing.
- Why Ooishi is so determined in solving the mystery murder case
- How Satoko's parents died
- How Rika's parents died
- Why Mion started the after-school club
- Why Satoshi went missing
- Why Takano kills Rika
- Why Keiichi moved to Hinamizawa
etc.
There's no transition because they're pieces, not a normal arc. They're simply pieces of the past. A normal story wouldn't be a piece, it would be the whole thing.
kingsky123
2007-11-06, 16:38
oh right pieces. i mean if their gonna make a story about it they should revamp it or something. like make it fit. :/
PS: yea im asking for too much arent i =/. least their animating it
Sinestra
2007-11-07, 13:39
Wow things are really coming together now. So many things have clicked in my head since this arc started. When I saw the hot woman pick up Takano I was like Oh shit hot chick talking to another hot chick in a nice car. NO GOOD WILL COME FROMT THIS. Takano's instability was only made worse by those pigs from the govornment self serving and petty as usual. I cant wait till we get back to the present im really anxious to see how Hanyuu , Rika and the rest of gang handle this one last time around.
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