Clannad - Episode 5 Discussion / Poll

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[FireChick]

When the subs come out I'm definitely seeing this! I bet Fuuko's arc will reveal itself in this episode! Fuuko kawaii!:)

[Kang Seung Jae]

When the subs come out I'm definitely seeing this! I bet Fuuko's arc will reveal itself in this episode! Fuuko kawaii!:)

I think it'll be too early for the Fuko arc to end.

[toxic_trance]

As much as I love Fuko...demo...

A 360 degree turn for us KOTOMI-CHAN :love:

>.<

[fuzzles]

Fuko arc end come on!! how can she continue she's dead, if they turn around and tell us she's imagining stuff i'm gonna be so pissed,

[Shinova]

A 360 degree turn for us KOTOMI-CHAN :love:

>.<

A famous basketball manager or something apparently said a similar thing you did and he got put on dumbest celebrity quotes ever. :p

(It's 180, not 360)

[2H-Dragon]

Fuko arc end come on!! how can she continue she's dead, if they turn around and tell us she's imagining stuff i'm gonna be so pissed,

She isn't dead...We assume she is in a coma, but dead no.

[Shiroth]

Wow, even though episode five was brilliant, this is easily the worst episode to date in terms of the whole size problem --- defiantly an episode for the good old 16:9 treatment.

[Shinova]

When Tomoya walks in on the Furukawas the next morning, my thought was, "The infection has spread!!!" :D

[Klashikari]

Bullet summary ON

Episode 5: Bullet summary and Screencaps (http://animehistory.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/clannad-episode-5/)

This episode is another example of a very enjoyable chemistry formula. Everything was centred on Fuko, but she was certainly not the only one actor, and even people like the fujibayashi sisters and youhei were involved in it.
Fuko antics remind me somehow of Konata's thumbs up, and the humor was more heartwarming than slapstick of episode4.
It was really enjoyable, considering how things go smoothly, but still with a natural flow, with "innocent looking, but deep interactions".

Good drama ahead, with a nice touch in the mood.

[panzerfan]

Trio of Okazaki just nailed this episode for me.
Mass production of wooden star is also just hilarious.

I am suddenly reminded of a certain Mizuho-sensei in this episode, that's for sure.

[Cyz]

Screenshots (http://randomc.animeblogger.net/2007/11/01/clannad-05/) of episode 5 courtesy of Random Curiosity. Pls. look at it at your own risk!
Looks like Fuko's story will be dealt first then?

[Mad Dog]

Please tell me this isn't who i think it is...
Is the teach Sayuri from Kanon?
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc206/Mad_Dog80/CLANNAD-05-Large30.jpg


Please note i have yet to get any of the episodes to Clannad II yet.

[2H-Dragon]

Please tell me this isn't who i think it is...
Is the teach Sayuri from Kanon?
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc206/Mad_Dog80/CLANNAD-05-Large30.jpg


Please note i have yet to get any of the episodes to Clannad II yet.

Erm she's Nagisa's mom. Notice how they look exactly the same. >.> <.< Though I haven't seen the episode though, so it might be a twin. :heh:

[PhantomX]

This episode was lacking in Kotomi-chan~

[Kang Seung Jae]

Please tell me this isn't who i think it is...
Is the teach Sayuri from Kanon?
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc206/Mad_Dog80/CLANNAD-05-Large30.jpg


Please note i have yet to get any of the episodes to Clannad II yet.

It is who you think it is.




Blushing Nagisa, flying starfishes..... this episode is full of love.

[Decagon]

I really liked this ep. The pacing was great around Fuko's story, and the drama and other characters flowed into the episode very well.

[toxic_trance]

A famous basketball manager or something apparently said a similar thing you did and he got put on dumbest celebrity quotes ever. :p

(It's 180, not 360)

Thats Basketball..whats the problem in wanting to see KOTOMI-CHAN turn a full circle >.>

NEWAY..thats not the point..nice to see positive reviews..waitin for subs ^_^

[Mad Dog]

Erm she's Nagisa's mom. Notice how they look exactly the same. >.> <.< Though I haven't seen the episode though, so it might be a twin. :heh:

Could have fooled me. This shot made her look exactly like Sayuri from Kano 2006. I literally did a double take. :twitch:

[Kaioshin Sama]

Could have fooled me. This shot made her look exactly like Sayuri from Kano 2006. I literally did a double take. :twitch:

Maybe somebody got there cells mixed up.:p

[Mirrinus]

This episode was lacking in Kotomi-chan~

This piece of news saddens me.

[Shinova]

Yeah, and toxic trance's comment had me thinking there was some Kotomi in this ep, but there wasn't! Toxic trance has explaining to do!

[toxic_trance]

Hey...I was hopin to see her just as much as anyone of u... its as much a shock to me as to anyone... :(

[lotus7]

eh, i'm sure we'll get a nice big helping of kotomi soon enough. for now it's enough to enjoy the crazy fukoness.

[eMpTy265]

Okazaki X 3 was all that it took for me to give this episode a 9

(As a fuko summoner, I didn't think the joke would hit me that hard... guess I was wrong...)



Well, it looks like we're really going to go into Fuko's arc, with the suspension of the drama club as well as the change of focus. As expected, Ibuki-sensei's engagement was apparently non-public material information, and it took Tomoya's quick thinking to get Nagisa out of trouble.

We're given small hints that Nagisa's beginning to take interest in Tomoya, and the Furukawas were fun to watch as usual.

Fuko was interesting as usual, and the jokes killed me again (even though I've already been through the game)

I also noted was Ryou's blushing around Tomoya, leading me to believe Ryou going to have her turn at getting Tomoya's affection (or at least trying)...

(true, it could be that she's just REALLY shy... ;) heh..who am I trying to kid here?)

The classroom part was enjoyable, no complaints here.

As to why Sanae's the teacher? Well... that'd be spoiling... :D

***

Sadly, no Tomoyo, no Kotomi, and Yukine gets minimal time. Also I suppose 16:9 would improve this episode significantly...


Next episode, school founder day... will Fuko's arc end there?


P.S. 天罰... LOL

[Itadakimasu!]

Quite a sweet episode, feels like the intro period is over...

[ImpulseRAven]

i like how Tomoya is cracking up laughing before Ryou even starts the joke.

[outcast_within]

if kotomi chan is that girl that is smart kind and a bit spaced out i missed her also in this episode

and we need more sayuri
oh ho hoo

[frustra]

Great episode. Liked the BGM used in this ep. There were some LOL moments. Now let the drama begin(?)

not perfect because of the lack of Tomoyo and Kotomi-chan...

[boggart]

Meh... even in an episode where Kotomi is not featured, she still gets brought up... *sighs*

I think that Fuko herself made this episode all the more worth watching. But that's coz I am a Fuko-fan... so bias runs deep. However, the "Mastered Person Switching" thing really caught me off guard and made me chuckle...

[Kristen]

Again, a great episode.

The sad thing is that they are cutting this to 24 episodes. Assuming something like 4 episodes of after story, and we know there are only 4 of introduction, that would leave us with 16 episodes to do 6 arcs (Fuuko, Tomoyo, Kotomi, Yukine, Kyou, Nagisa), or 2.6 episodes per character. And they may want to make the Nagisa arc longer as well.

Ah well. Not going to judge it too soon, but I don't see how this is feasible, even for Kyoto animation.

[Kinny Riddle]

Yup, those things Fuuko were carving are all starfishes. NOT stars. :D

Even Nagisa thinks so. lol




Fuuko has mastered the "Swap the Person Whom She's Talking To" skill!


Firstly, Tomoya has Ryou steps in his place, telling him to pretend to be her.

When Fuuko asks why, Ryou would answer "I'm Okazaki, I've turned into a girl"

Fuuko asks how is this possible, Ryou answers "It happens sometimes"

Fuuko freaks out, and asks if this could happen to her, Ryou answers "I guess"

Fuuko asks if this is really reality, Ryou again answers "I guess"

Fuuko goes into Konata >.< mode. LOL

Tomoya, hiding in a corner, tries hard not to ROFLMAO.

Then Tomoya switches places with Fuuko again, causing her to go Konata >.< like again.

Fuuko sighs a breath of relief that she wouldn't have to change to "Fuutarou". (-tarou is usually for a guy's name)

Then Ryou appears, and Fuuko freaks out again: "OMG, there's two Okazaki-sans! >.<!!!"

Kyou appears as well, Fuuko goes nuts: "ZOMFG!!! THERE'S NOW THREE OKAZAKI-SANS!!! >o<!!!!!"



When Fuuko asks the twins to embrace their starfishes, she gets excited and goes into Konata-mode >0< again. I like it when she does that. :D


I really like how they bring Yukine, Kyou and Ryou into Fuuko's story. And I like the Celtic arrangement to the BGM "Country Path" (田舎小径) in the classroom scene, suits the Irish-themed title "Clannad" well.

[Skane]

Quick Thoughts on Ep05:
---- ----

The "Fumoffu-fic" humour in this episode caught me off guard.
.
Love the kitten toss.
.
What the heck are those glowing pollen things? They appeared quite frequently in this episode.
.
One of those pollen-thingys flew past an old man who seemed to notice their presence. I wonder about the significance of this old man...
.
Unlike Ayu & Yuuichi in Kanon, I can fully support Nagisa and Tomoya in CLANNAD. Nagisa's fluster at Ibuki-sensei's house was so adorable.

Cheers.

[Takuto19]

I missed Kotomi but but was a great episode none the less, best part for me was the 3 Okazaki's joke, was great heh.

9/10

[Ascaloth]

Watched the TWH-Sprocket sub of Episode 5. At 15:08, Ryou seems to have suddenly sprouted Shu Qi-class beestung lips. Immediate one-point penalty; I can't believe KyoAni can make such an obvious blooper. I will reveal the scene in the upcoming blog article.

That said, pretty good episode overall. First thing I noticed was "ara"; I was going "Akiko-san!" almost immediately. :heh:
I also noticed the "glowing pollen things" Skane mentioned; what are they? There must be at least 3 instances where they appeared. What is their significance?
Thirdly, from the start of the Fuuko-in-class sequence, I felt like KyoAni was using a different visual style from their usual fare. There's just something about the animation style of the sequence that feels unique, un-KyoAni if you will, even though it didn't lose the typical kami-sakuga quality.

That is all. I will take a closer look at this tomorrow, and publish the blog article then. 8 overall, but because of the penalty, this one gets a 7.

[wingscythe]

Watched the TWH-Sprocket sub of Episode 5. At 15:08, Ryou seems to have suddenly sprouted Shu Qi-class beestung lips. Immediate one-point penalty; I can't believe KyoAni can make such an obvious blooper. I will reveal the scene in the upcoming blog article.

Dude, those aren't lips. Look closer, she has her mouth open. The lining from the top of Nagisa's eye in the background makes it look like "lips".

Anyway I liked this ep, full of funny.

[KaneDragon]

Haha for Kyou saying that Fuko's 'starfish' looked like it had a nice damage bonus.

Nagisa getting flustered over the "boyfriend" thing, Divine Punishment, the prank with Ryou... Good stuff. :)

[Shadowfox79]

Awesome episode, best prank so far with the "Sometimes it falls off" prank.

Also I found it cute when Ibuki-sensei asked Nagisa if Tomoya was her b/f and she started spazzing out! That and when Fuko took the last name of the neighbor, Tomoya puts on the Sonic the Hedgehog shoes to look outside and smacks her.

[cshard]

Ahh, wonderful episode. XD

Nagisa-chan kawaii~~~! :heh: Cute to see she's started to take an interest in Tomoya as well. A flustered Nagisa is good stuff.

Something i was thinking when Nagisa is being all determined to help Fuuko - it occurs to me that we shouldn't be considering Tomoya to be the main character in this series. Seems more like a case of teamwork between the 2 of them. Quite a change from Yuuichi's one man army show I must say.

"My Pace" type parents eh? XD Amazing that they bought the story.. or did they? I wonder if they might have noticed anything at all. In any case, Tomoya's tsukommi suddenly powered up - love the face Fuuko gave. :heh:

Neko toss FTW. Nuff' said. XD Misae sure took Tomoya's advice to heart, didn't she? TENBATSU~~~! And taken out on Sunohara, guinea pig and he of the invulnerable body. His regen rate must be working overtime or something.

Fuuko and Nagisa on the same wavelength eh...? :heh: Tomoya has just uncovered the secret Starfish Factory lair... doesn't seem like he's got the stamina to survive more of this. :heh:

Hissatsuwaza "Okazaki switcher". A deadly technique where "something" falls off occasionally and reattaches to other things. Also splits people from time to time. :heh: Seriously, one of the funniest scenes this episode. I agree with those of you guys who mentioned Fuuko makes the Kona-chan >o< face as well - looks like she mastered more than just the "Switching the person you're talking to" skill. :heh: Suprisingly, Kyou is also on Fuuko's wavelength... does that say something about Kyou as well? XD *ducks from all the starfishes and dictionaries being readied.*

I'm surprised that Ryou actually said "that" without too much fuss. XD The girl must be getting bolder after the mistaken confession last episode. Also, LOL at Nagisa's pouting face at Tomoya's ROFLMAO reaction.

Seems like Kyou should equip the "Wood Starfish" instead of "Large Dictionary". :heh: Her hit rate seems to have increased - I note that this is the first time she actually made contact with Tomoya's head. XD

Mitsui-san is either hiding something or she's a rather stuck-up prude. Wonder if she's just a side character who'll be gone soon, or will she reappear? Maybe she's the Mishima-san of Fuuko's route?

Overall, the humour level seems to have been ramped up quite a bit. A case of balancing out the later parts of the show? Wasn't expecting what some of you guys said was fumoffu esque sequences - definitely the highlight of the show. I did think it was a bit un-Tomoya like though... :heh:

[FireChick]

I finished episode 5 just now. I love it! The scenes where the dictionaries ALMOST hit Tomoya are as funny as ever! Fuuko is funny a little. Let's see if the next episode will really be an eye-opener.:);)

[Kinny Riddle]

Ahh, wonderful episode. XD



Mitsui-san is either hiding something or she's a rather stuck-up prude. Wonder if she's just a side character who'll be gone soon, or will she reappear? Maybe she's the Mishima-san of Fuuko's route?



Well, I sort of understand why she's behaving in such a cold manner. In Asian education systems, where university exams mean everything, you tend to get extremely edgy if you get distracted by non-academic stuff. While I wasn't that cold-hearted when I went through that stage, but you could say I was pretty paranoid. :D Glad that dreaded part of my life is but a past memory now.



The adult females in KEY games sure know the secret to preserving their youth.

Kouko-san, Fuuko's sis, is just hawt. :love: (Not to mention she's voiced by Minaguchi Yuuko, AKA Akiko-san)

Misae-san looks very young for a school dorm landlady. I wish my college dorm had a landlady like her.

And finally, Sanae-san needs no more mentioning. There's no doubt Kouko-san and Misae-san are younger than her. Already she has fooled Sunohara and Kyou into thinking she's Nagisa's sister. And for a while, she even resembled Sayuri-san instead.

[cshard]

Don't tell me... the secret "Fountain of Youth" is embedded in Sanae-san's bread and Akiko-san's jammu? XD The tragedy~! Misae must get her power source elsewhere though. Doubt she goes to the Furukawa Bread shop. :heh:

[Solafighter]

10/10


scene at 3 minutes

"So he is your boyfriend?"
-"No!"
-"No hestitation."

:heh:
-
scene at 7 minutes

"Isogi-San is our nighbour, right?"

-huh?!


"You idiot!"


:heh: :heh:

Great episode. :)

[Deathkillz]

by jesus this was a pretty good ep - for once the pacing wasnt disruptive ^^

i guess i have a better impression of fuko now...and knowing that she is actually in a coma really brought back memories of ayu...funny thing here is that tomoya even stated that its not like she is a girl in a coma while her spirit wonders the school grounds...oh sweet sweet irony XD

while the humor remains hit or miss...here it hit the mark for a good 90% of the time...i mean...

- Sunohara is a peeping tom

- zomg that is a starfish!

- gorilla...

- "my thing dropped off..."

was comedy gold! XD

have to note that i find tomoya's use of humor is mainly to make others feel uncomfortable...which just makes him a big meanie chiiiiii ~~

nagisa's family is whacky as usual...just look at all of them helping fuko out the whole night...crazy haha!

the end scenes with fuko feeling acceptance was beautiful to watch...didnt expect nagisa's mom to turn up and zomg is she a hot looking sensei XD err yea back on track, it really gave off a good vibe seeing fuko, the girl who was lonely, feeling the warmth of companionship ^^ and we just know that something will happen later - possible the first heartbreak for this season...

but the one thing i didnt like was tomoya's absurd attitude towards the news that fuko might not be human...wth didnt he react more O.O
i guess that is his way of showing that he has lost his cool but letting him be in denial...while he keeps telling himself that she is a normal human the fact that she isnt - and being told that already fuko is in the hospital i find it kinda weird that he hasnt fully accepted this...normal people would have gone "zomg im taking with a ghost!"

but besides that little hiccup i enjoyed this ep quite a bit :)

has anyone made this connection yet? there is something that kyou has which just reminds me of kagami :rolleyes:

[dgreater1]

has anyone made this connection yet? there is something that kyou has which just reminds me of kagami :rolleyes:

The very obvious one is the look in their eyes, very pointy, as if it will stab you if you messed with it. :heh:

[Alexandrite]

Well this was certainly a humorous episode. I'm not certain how necessary a spoiler tag is since the subs are out, but since everyone else is...


Another agreement in enjoying Nagisa's fluster on the topic of Tomoya being her boyfriend. Aww...

"Isogai!"
"Isogai-san is our neighbor, right?"
"You idiot!"
Lucky that Nagisa's parents are terribly naive.

Kitty toss and... TENBATSU! And apparently, after all this time I STILL can't hear "batsu" without bringing images to mind of Icchan from Angelic Layer.

So... starfish and Nagisa's hugs. Anything else that Fuko will go into her bliss trance over?

"I'm Okazaki, I just turned into a girl."
Poor Ryou. She just going to keep getting roped into this kind of stuff, and Kyou will be there to punish whoever started it. Dictionaries and now wooden starfish for bonus damage. Fun. Where does she get/keep all these bloody dictionaries anyhow? Maybe Kotomi is her supplier? :D

Fuko's reactions in general are hilarious. I love how she looks serious whenever she spouts off something odd. Her expressions in the scene with the Fujibayashi twins remind me of Konata, but I suppose that's not a bad thing - more humor before the drama fully kicks in.


A shame that the arcs look like they'll be a bit shorter than the Kanon girls'. I hope it all works out smoothly enough.

More Kotomi soon, please. ^^

[HashiriyaR32]

The starfish segment and Ryou's "I'm Okazaki, I just turned into a girl" segment had me LAUGHING MY ASS OFF!! +100 for Tomoya getting clocked in the head with a starfish.

[Shiroth]

Main LOL of the episode for me had to be Tomoya's laugh on the stairs. That and the whole last name/neighbor thing.

Nagisa at the start of the episode, on the talk about Tomoya boyfriend was

[toxic_trance]

One thing I am loving about CLANNAD the most is that the fluidity in motion of the characters is totally awesome. Tomoya's laugh reaction was beutifully dona according to me.

Even the potrayal of Moe-ness has improved. The credit for this I think can be attributed to Luck Star. Lots of similar tricks used, espescially for the Fujibayashi twins

The First Arc has started, nice mix of comedy and drama. Even though similar to Ayu arc in Kanon, still a lot of freshness in the presentation.

Nagisa FTW. After Kotomi-chan, I think Nagisa and Ryou are reall fightin it out for the next spot in the Cuteness Category

Overall Rating : 8/10

Lowest among my previous 4 which earned a 9, and a pretty stupid reason too for it actually

I simply feel that, the ending episode of this Arc will be better than even the introduction episodes, so..to give more value to 10, i think this episode needs a 8

[rg4619]

Weakest episode yet, imo (perhaps a 5/10 on my scale). As with Ep. 3, I found most of the humor to be rather forced and lame. Tack on the tired "class simulation" scenario, and you have something quite annoying to watch.

[Kisuke06]

Good episode. Scene with Nagisa's family = Win. :heh:

So, what's the deal with the light balls? Part of Clannad's mystery, I suppose.

[therationalpi]

Really liked this episode. I thought the humor finally hit a nice stride with feeling natural. Episode 4 was good, but had a bit too much slapstick for my taste. The Ryou X Nagisa from Ep 4, and the Ryou/Tomoya in this episode were much more up my alley for humor.

That said, I hope the next episode is more emotionally intense. I would say it's high time for a heartwarmer/tear jerker.

[Mirrinus]

Wow, that was a really nice episode. The scene where Tomoya finds out that those are starfish just had me rolling in laughter for some reason. Even though we're heading towards more emotionally touching moments, it's nice to see humor mixed in once in a while. And yeah, Fuuko's totally growing on me...

One thing I really liked about this episode was that Nagisa was taking a direct initiative towards helping Fuuko. In fact, she's the first one to insist on helping, even before Tomoya. I really loved how both she and Tomoya were working together for Fuuko (actually, more like she's dragging Tomoya along). This is extremely different from Yuuichi's scenario in Kanon, and I think it immensely strengthens the relationship bond between Nagisa and Tomoya, much more than Ayu and Yuuichi had. I can really see Nagisa and Tomoya together as a couple because of this; they're most definitely my favorite official Key couple now. Similarly, I liked how several other characters, like Sunohara, Kyou, Ryou, Yukine, and Nagisa's parents are all being brought into Fuuko's story as well. It really feels much more like one big happy family, doesn't it?

I'm loving how so many characters are being incorporated into the story here in Clannad, rather than the solitary couples of Kanon. I guess that's probably because of their two completely different themes (how else would you do "family"?), but it's been remarkably enjoyable nonetheless. I'm fervently hoping that they'll continue this trend for all the later story arcs, because it makes it feel so much more natural and continuous, rather than disjunct and separate stories.

Edit: Oh, and I absolutely loved the music that was playing during the classroom scene at the end. Can any game vets tell me if that was from the game, and if so, what that song is called?

[Manji Midou]

What do you think Fuuko means that her words won't reach her sisters? Wil she go back to her comatose body or something if she tries t make contact with her?

[holyman282]

Yep this is an nice ep, the comedy has been toned down a bit for the Fuko arc but not completely gone. I really like how they integrate the comedy and drama so well together.

The part with Ryou had me laughing with Tomoya and that scene where Tomoya talked about how he's going to help out Nagisa, "therefore give me some tea" Sunohora saying how does that relate with each other was hilarious.

Fuko's mystery is slowly unfolding, interesting to note those white balls of lights floating around, it's hinting at something big.

[X207]

lol good ep, i love tomoya's practical jokes on his friends.

[toxic_trance]

Oh yeah..completely forgot to mention..the Music totally kicked ass in this episode.

Felt like bagpiper music..well whatever it was..it was definitely awesome

[gab_rey]

Another great episode. The "I'm Okazaki, I just turned into a girl" part was hilarious.

[X207]

lol ryou really is the best character to make misunderstandings and jokes seem so real.

[KaneDragon]

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2955/tomoyaxnagisanotmyboyfrqw8.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tomoyaxnagisanotmyboyfrqw8.jpg)
Hehe~ Nagisa is cute. ^^ It helps that the other girls have gotten so little screentime relative to her that there's not any competition at this point.

[onibur23]

I knew it was a starfish the whole time. :heh:

[Thentus]

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2955/tomoyaxnagisanotmyboyfrqw8.th.jpg (http://img161.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tomoyaxnagisanotmyboyfrqw8.jpg)
Hehe~ Nagisa is cute. ^^ It helps that the other girls have gotten so little screentime relative to her that there's not any competition at this point.

Yes, I guess it's because she's the main heroine in the story. Really she is more of a catalyst to get Tomoya to actually do something.

Maybe that will change later =/.

And I knew it was a starfish too :heh:.

[Sorrow-K]

Nice ep, but I'm not really taken by Fuko's story at this stage. I guess it's her character. I don't hate her, but I find myself a bit indifferent towards her and her problems, and I think it goes without saying that there are a lot of aspects of her behaviour that are really immature.

Maybe Fuko's story will become more interesting further down this arc. I won't discount that possibility, but right now it hasn't grabbed me. But the comedy saved this episode for me. It's become enough of a pattern to be a character trait and while I'm sure others have noticed this it's worth pointing out: Tomoya is really manipulative. And while, at this stage he's generally doing it for his own amusement (and for the sake as comedy, since it's lead to some of the funniest scenes in this anime), who knows, it could land him in a whole heap of trouble if he's not careful. It is an interesting component to his character though.

I thought Tomoya and Nagisa's parents stole the show (on different occasions) in this episode. I also found it difficult to swallow the fact that Fuko's sister hadn't told anyone about her engagement. What type of woman doesn't tell her family and friends when she gets engaged... even if she's having second thoughts? That makes no sense, and comes off as little more than a rather convenient plot device for proving that Fuko is the spirit of her comatose sister.

If a romance doesn't eventuate between Tomoya and Nagisa, it'd be the biggest possible disappointment this show could provide.

[cshard]

Unless there's a dramatic 180 degree turn from KyoAni, I think we can probably rest easy when it comes to Tomoya x Nagisa. After all, how many people were hoping Yuuichi x Nayuki only to to be firmly disappointed? :heh: And there was even less precedent then for the final couple than there is for Clannad's two future lovebirds.

As for Kouko not telling anyone, there are various reasons I can think of why not - most point to her getting engaged either after or just shortly before Fuuko's accident. I suppose someone who's completed the game might be able to give a more accurate reason (other than the one Kouko herself gave already). I mean, if your little sister just got into an accident, at the exact same time you got engaged, one might not want to make a fuss over one's wedding out of respect for the rest of the family's grief, or worse, they might even take it as a sign that the wedding was bad luck or heading for disaster.

*Edited for mathematical errors. :heh:

[Kamui4356]

It's become enough of a pattern to be a character trait and while I'm sure others have noticed this it's worth pointing out: Tomoya is really manipulative. And while, at this stage he's generally doing it for his own amusement (and for the sake as comedy, since it's lead to some of the funniest scenes in this anime), who knows, it could land him in a whole heap of trouble if he's not careful. It is an interesting component to his character though.]

I don't think it's so much that he's manipulative as it is most of the people around him are easy to convince. Sure he takes advantage of that for his own amusement, but it's not like he goes out of his way or puts in any effort to get people to fall for his pranks. Though I suppose one could argue that Tomoya's taking advantage of it is no better.

Unless there's a dramatic 360 degree turn from KyoAni, I think we can probably rest easy when it comes to Tomoya x Nagisa. After all, how many people were hoping Yuuichi x Nayuki only to to be firmly disappointed? :heh: And there was even less precedent then for the final couple than there is for Clannad's two future lovebirds.
It's not really KyoAni though. With Kanon they were just following the "true" end. With these types of games, while you can chose multiple paths there's only one ending that's considered the real one. With Kanon, Ayu was the true ending, so that's the one they went with.

The same thing will happen with Clannad, we'll get the true ending. Though I haven't played the game, so I can't say for sure what that will be. :heh:


Anyway, I thought this was one of the stronger episodes. They handled Fuku's situation much better than I was expecting. Even though she's in the same situation, it looks like it won't just be a retelling of Ayu's story. I also liked the humor in this episode. While I didn't mind the Tomoyo-Sunohara scenes as much as some, it's nice that they moved away from them for a bit. Over all I gave it a 9. I'm looking foward to seeing how Fuku's arc ends.

[holyman282]

Nice ep, but I'm not really taken by Fuko's story at this stage. I guess it's her character. I don't hate her, but I find myself a bit indifferent towards her and her problems, and I think it goes without saying that there are a lot of aspects of her behaviour that are really immature.

You know despite how much I enjoyed this ep, I feel the same way. It's just something about Fuko's story arc that doesn't appeal to me. I find no emotional connection towards Fuko's predicament.

I was slightly dissapointed actually to find that the next ep would be Fuko too, no offence to Fuko fans but the connection just isn't there to keep me interested throughout her whole arc.

[Sorrow-K]

Unless there's a dramatic 360 degree turn from KyoAni, I think we can probably rest easy when it comes to Tomoya x Nagisa. After all, how many people were hoping Yuuichi x Nayuki only to to be firmly disappointed? :heh: Not me, that's for sure. This will always be a contentious point, but that's the nature of the game (and you have to plaa-aay *ahem* sorry). But I always thought Yuuichi x Ayu made the most sense by a long way, with maybe Yuuichi x Shiori a distant second.

I guess there's a lot less contention this time round. Tomoya and Nagisa have a more genuine relationship to this point then I've seen from any of the other Key anime conversions, maybe partly because at this stage he hasn't shown any romantic interest in any of the other characters (while I'd argue he has in Nagisa), but moreso because they just complement each other so well. I can understand why a lot of people would have prefered alternatives to Yuuichi x Ayu, even if it's something that I don't myself, but I can't see how the alternatives to Tomoya x Nagisa could even work in this case.

With that said, I think the absolute worst alternative to Tomoya x Nagisa would be no romance between anyone. That would be an example of ball-less writers passing up the opportunity for some outstanding romance and drama. It'd be very uncharacteristic of KyoAni to say the least.

[jowney]

LOL cool episode wasnt too bad
fuuko double thumbs up AHHAa >,<!
cnt wait for the next episode T.T

[Zaris]

This is a good episode, and I can't help but point out the major differences of this week's part five versus the part five KyoAni did with Kanon.

First off is the protagonists. Within the first five minutes, you get an official statement of where Tomoya and Nagisa are in their relationship since they first met. And it's done remarkably well too. The dialogue is introduced by a lady who has thought deeply about companionship, so you can't really blame her for bringing up the subject, now can you? The other thing is each other's responses when answering Ibuki-sensei's questions. You see they're obviously comfortable with each other, but when putting that chemistry into words, I'm afraid it's like breaking the ice. It wouldn't be a bad thing if it was more, but you don't want to be the first one to admit it. That is the kind of romantic tension that is very unique to explore, and it was very nice to poke holes in that glacier this time around.

Another is the change of pace of CLANNAD. It not so artificial as it was with Kanon, not so coerced into a new arc without blindly disregarding the consequences of what happened beforehand. Time spent on Fuko is time away from the theater club, and that was briefly yet sufficiently brought to attention with both Nagisa and Sunohara. And the turn to the surreal is acceptable even though we only have Fuko's word to go with it. No, we haven't seen any distortions in space-time yet, but we can accept the fact that something weird is happening with CLANNAD because the characters have actively discussed it. It's a lot more meaningful when more than one person believes in the same thing.

The comedy is slapstick yet appropriate, the progression mundane yet gripping. The mock-class has me thrown into a little bit of confusion as I question what purpose does it serve, but I'm willing to give Tomoya the benefit of the doubt and wait for the explanation he promised us in upcoming episodes.

Oh, and this episode further proves my reasoning to believe that Tomoya and Kyou have a friendship that extends well before the series began contrary to how they might behave towards each another. It's not the one where they walk home together or something; more like a casualness that doesn't go beyond the reach of school. I mean, he has Kyou's number.

So here's a final thought: did Kyou stage that "romantic meeting" back in episode two?

You know despite how much I enjoyed this ep, I feel the same way. It's just something about Fuko's story arc that doesn't appeal to me. I find no emotional connection towards Fuko's predicament.

I was slightly dissapointed actually to find that the next ep would be Fuko too, no offence to Fuko fans but the connection just isn't there to keep me interested throughout her whole arc.

Sounds like me and Makoto back in Kanon. I was practically begging for immediate closure. But that's only because her character is something I would see as annoying in a girl. It's probably not so much about presentation, more like personality. Because honestly, if I tried hard enough, I could dislike Fuko too. That or the fact that her story so far sounds a little too much like some other Key character we know and we just haven't had enough time to let that feeling fade out.

But really, five girls, five mentalities. You're not expected to like'm all. But having to portray them is part of the downside of adapting a bishojo game.

[Ascaloth]

RIUVA blog article is up:

[RIUVA] CLANNAD (TV), Episode 05 (http://www.riuva.com/?p=800)

[cshard]

It's not really KyoAni though. With Kanon they were just following the "true" end. With these types of games, while you can chose multiple paths there's only one ending that's considered the real one. With Kanon, Ayu was the true ending, so that's the one they went with.

The same thing will happen with Clannad, we'll get the true ending. Though I haven't played the game, so I can't say for sure what that will be. :heh:

Well, I meant that KyoAni has a rep for sticking to the "True End" for all of their Key adaptations, so I don't expect them to make a 180 and give us Tomoyo/Kyou/Kotomi/Fuuko After instead. :heh: Much as I would support most of those. XD

That reminds me. Is it just me or did they just subtlly explain away the lack of Tomoyo by having Sunohara get injured by Misae? :heh: It's either that, or it's just to hold him back from progressing Nagisa's story without the consent of the others (by chasing after the student council members). XD

*Edited for mathematical errors. :heh:

[Divini]

After watching Kanon, and starting to feel that some characters are devloped more / have more screentime than others, I decided to take the liberty to monitor CLANNAD's characters.


Main Supporting (Unknown)
Okazaki Tomoya
Furukawa Nagisa
Ibuki Fuko
Fujibayashi Ryou
Fujibayashi Kyou
Furukawa Sanae
Sunohara Youhei
Ibuki-sensei
Furukawa Akio
(Mitsui)
Sagara Misae
Miyazawa Yukine
(Old Man)
20:38
18:35
13:25
7:04
5:25
4:49
4:36
2:24
1:49
0:47
0:41
0:39
0:13

Supporting characters are in italics.
(Unknowns) are those characters who cannot be determined whether significant or not at this point in time.


Main Supporting (Unknown)
Okazaki Tomoya
Furukawa Nagisa
Sunohara Youhei
Ibuki Fuko
Fujibayashi Ryou
Fujibayashi Kyou
Sakagami Tomoyo
Furukawa Sanae
Furukawa Akio
(Mysterious Girl / Voice)
Ichinose Kotone
Ibuki-sensei
Miyazawa Yukine
Botan
Yoshino Yuuske
Tomoya no Otou-san
Sagara Misae
(Mitsui)
(Old Man)1:41:05
55:29
29:16
22:41
13:55
12:46
10:07
9:01
6:03
4:46
2:50
2:48
2:38
2:20
1:57
1:05
1:01
0:47
0:13


Food for thought. Anyways...

On episode 5, I really enjoyed the pacing of this episode. It was very heartwarming at times, and the humor was well placed throughout the episode that has it combine well with Fuko's plight.

"So it falls off every now and then?"
"I-I guess"
"You guess?! It falls of that easily?!"

:heh:

[Eisdrache]

Unless there's a dramatic 360 degree turn from KyoAni, I think we can probably rest easy when it comes to Tomoya x Nagisa.
You know that a 360 degree turn will go in the exact same direction as it was before? ;) Someone made this mistake on page 1 or 2 too.
OnTopic: I really liked this episode. Fuko is growing to be my absolute favourite girl in this series, with a major advance at Kyou coming second. And while there is nothing yet that had me laughing like the chain combo in ep4 the Tomoya^3 part was very close to it :D
However we are getting a slight hint that there is something happening behind the scenes as well with the small light balls and the old man noticing them. I wonder what meaning they have.

[cshard]

You know that a 360 degree turn will go in the exact same direction as it was before? ;) Someone made this mistake on page 1 or 2 too.


....

.......

OTL

:heh: NANJYA KORYA, ORE WA~~~~~!!!

I need to remember to reread my posts even more... ^_^ All edited now.

[Ashlotte]

Not quite as funny as last episode, but still quite a step above most things i've watched recently. The drama was kinda off though...

Like sorrow said I dont really dislike fuko or anything, but at the same time I'm finding it hard to really get into her story and care a whole lot at this point. Heres hoping the drama comes to match the quality of the comedy soon. ;)

[Skane]

Seriously people... the choice of ending is about as subtle as a sledgehammer in a glass shop. Just like how Kanon's OP and ED was screaming, "AYU! AYU! AYU!" CLANNAD's OP and ED is screaming, "NAGISAAAAAAAA!" Not to mention the opening scene of Ep01 where Tomoya mentions the long, long road he and Nagisa has to travel together. If that is not a metaphor for their future relationship, I don't know what is.

That said, having the benefit of not knowing about the game's content beforehand, I am thoroughly enjoying the development between Tomoya and Nagisa (so far) because I do not need to fret about the "shafting" of the other main heroines.

Cheers.

[Lilith]

Ep 5
I didn't know it was a starfish!!

As usual, Akio's presence was great. :love: I agree with the rest about humor scenes.

Though it may be early to say this, but Ryou has got to be my favorite character. She's "gullible" but in a cute-not-annoying way. It's a shame that she's not one of the "main girls".

About the ending... Since I'm not sure what the story is (robot and other world?) I can't say it'll end with Nagisa even if it's SO clear she's the "one".

[KholdStare]

8/10, only because that prank after getting Fu-chan out of her daydream. That was hilarious and I almost fell out of my seat. Yeah, it's a pity that Ryou isn't a main character. She's the cutest in my opinion and Ryou x Nagisa always!!!

[DazarGaidin]

I think people are having a problem getting into Fuko's story because 1) its pretty much ayu's story and 2) she looks like ayu

Of course it wouldn't be as engaging if you already seen it..

This episode was so-so, not much happened other than the 'death starfish' scene where fuko gives the 2 thumbs up and the 'swapping people' scene, which were really funny. I thought the scene where they were being grilled over their relationship was cute and it was funny when he was like 'No hesitation?!"

Gave this one an 8 :)

[FlareKnight]

I seriously thought it was a star :heh:. Oh well guess we live and learn in that regard.

Kyou might want to invest in star based weaponry, be it wooden starfish or good old ninja stars :). Accuracy seems to be better than a dictionary. Though I guess it makes sense that some would make better projectiles than others. She finally got a hit after quite few missed attempts.

Fuko's story still leaves me feeling slightly weird about it all. I mean they are walking around with a ghost. Well I guess not a ghost since her body is supposed to be alive. So some kind of out of body experience that has given you another body...Hmm weird.

Poor Ryou gets roped into these things. First the confession and then pretending to be a female Tomoya. Guy really changes all the time. Hologram, cyborg, and now into a girl. Never stays still in that regard.

[toxic_trance]

Hmm..shocking to see so less posts in this thread, but then again, i too accept that people wont have much to say about it. But I still feel strongly that KEY wouldnt have repeated the arc of Ayu again, i think this just may be different :)

[DazarGaidin]

Yeah his friends seem pretty gullible in general :D

[Thentus]

After all, that just makes the show so much more interesting!

[FatPianoBoy]

Fuko's story still leaves me feeling slightly weird about it all. I mean they are walking around with a ghost. Well I guess not a ghost since her body is supposed to be alive. So some kind of out of body experience that has given you another body...Hmm weird.
I liked how Key made fun of themselves with Tomoya's complete dismissal of Fuuko being an astral projection and more or less saying that it's completely ridiculous :heh:

[Ascaloth]

I think people are having a problem getting into Fuko's story because 1) its pretty much ayu's story and 2) she looks like ayu


1) Yes, I'm sure that's mostly the case. At least it is for me.
2) Erm.....I don't think so. :p


Kyou might want to invest in star based weaponry, be it wooden starfish or good old ninja stars :). Accuracy seems to be better than a dictionary. Though I guess it makes sense that some would make better projectiles than others. She finally got a hit after quite few missed attempts.


You know, I don't really understand the comments that wooden stars make for more accurate weapons. Kyou threw that star at point-blank range. There's simply no way to miss whether it's a star or a dictionary. :heh:

[holyman282]

Fuko certainly isn't like Ayu in character, I just feel that since we've been through this scenerio before, it isn't as engaging the second time. Offcourse I would probably still enjoy it, just not as much.

[Lilith]

I agree about Fuko not looking like Ayu. I can't say it's a "repeated scenario" because Fuko's story hasn't finished yet and there's still a possibility it won't be like Ayu's.

For me, the reason why I'm not "engaged" is... the comedy. Also... when Nagisa was whispering to Tomoya about the ghost girl and when they went to her sister's made me feel the mystery more than the drama.

I can safely say that so far I didn't feel any "dramatic" scenes other than episode 2's final.

[holyman282]

The comedy?! I found the comedy to be one of the parts that draws me to this anime, also it's integrated quite well with the drama.

[FatPianoBoy]

Comedy is a very subjective element in entertainment. Personally, I find the comedy hysterical.

(It falls off sometimes)

[Kinny Riddle]

I liked how Key made fun of themselves with Tomoya's complete dismissal of Fuuko being an astral projection and more or less saying that it's completely ridiculous :heh:
He then follows it up with saying there's probably some sort of reason that makes her think she's Ibuki Fuuko. Key having a dig at themselves with not just the Ayu phenomenon, but Makoto's as well.

[The Chaos]

Good Ep
I Like The Idea of making class for friend....... You can Enjoy the friendship

[cshard]

You know, I don't really understand the comments that wooden stars make for more accurate weapons. Kyou threw that star at point-blank range. There's simply no way to miss whether it's a star or a dictionary. :heh:

I guess the fuss over the fact that it's the first projectile she's thrown that made actual contact. XD Of course Tomoya didn't get a warning like he normally does, and the spinning star probably moves faster and more aerodynamically than a thrown dictionary... Either way I vote for repeating the experiment sometime. :heh:

(It falls off sometimes)

That line is in the running for best line this episode IMO. :heh:

A small question that was nagging me yesterday. Regarding who mastered "Learning how to switch the Person you're talking to"... shouldn't it be Tomoya who mastered it, not Fuuko? After all he did set the prank up. XD

[grey_moon]

My fav girl is still Nagisa, but I can't help like Fuko. Her autonomous responses to Tomoyo really make me laugh as does her double thumbs up and starry mode. What really did it for me was when she labelled Tomoyo as her enemy and just kept promoting him. Because I am building up such an attachment to her, I am really worried how her arc will end. I am hoping for a nice resolution, but I keep thinking that something bad will happen :(

[Lilith]

The comedy?! I found the comedy to be one of the parts that draws me to this anime, also it's integrated quite well with the drama.

Comedy is a very subjective element in entertainment. Personally, I find the comedy hysterical.

(It falls off sometimes)

I am very sorry if I phrased it wrong. :o By "engaged" I meant "getting into" Fuko's story. Be filled with emotions and sympathy (as I did in Kanon with all the girls). If Fuko disappeared I'd prolly just frown.

From my previous posts it's clearly that I adore their sense of humor. :D

[holyman282]

I am very sorry if I phrased it wrong. :o By "engaged" I meant "getting into" Fuko's story. Be filled with emotions and sympathy (as I did in Kanon with all the girls). If Fuko disappeared I'd prolly just frown.


Yeah I agree that Fuko's arc lacks a sort of emotional connection. Not sure why, perhaps it's because the similarity it displays towards Kanon. It's just this feeling... Even when I found out Fuko was a spirit entity sort of thing i didn't feel really engaged, I actually really hope that the Fuko arc would be over soon so they can concentrate on some more interesting girls.

[OceanBlue]

Yeah I agree that Fuko's arc lacks a sort of emotional connection. Not sure why, perhaps it's because the similarity it displays towards Kanon. It's just this feeling... Even when I found out Fuko was a spirit entity sort of thing i didn't feel really engaged, I actually really hope that the Fuko arc would be over soon so they can concentrate on some more interesting girls.

I think it's because, overall, we don't know Fuko well enough for us to feel sympathy for her. If something happened to Tomoya [I almost typed Okazaki], then we would feel more sympathy, since we know him as a character more.

[DazarGaidin]

Fuko doesnt act like Ayu at all, but she certainly is drawn similar, i don't see how you could deny that lol

[Skyfall]

Save for both being loli-ish the visual similarities between Fuko and Ayu are next to none :) And i can only add to the general census that Fuko's story fails to generate any emotions from me ... never mind emotions, it fails at generating interest within me. It is true we know almost nothing about Fuko, but i am not exactly wanting to find out. Complete indifference would be how i feel towards her.

She is good for generating a few laughs with her conversations with Tomoya, but i absolutely can't take her seriously, which is why the end of this episode felt draggy for me - the classroom scene didn't last long time-wise, but i couldn't wait for it to be over and done with. :) Drama and Fuko are two things that don't mix it seems.

On the bright side - we got some very cute reactions from Nagisa at the start :)

[todkapuz]

After watching Kanon, and starting to feel that some characters are devloped more / have more screentime than others, I decided to take the liberty to monitor CLANNAD's characters.

Main Supporting (Unknown)
Okazaki Tomoya
Furukawa Nagisa
Ibuki Fuko
Fujibayashi Ryou
Fujibayashi Kyou
Furukawa Sanae
Sunohara Youhei
Ibuki-sensei
Furukawa Akio
(Mitsui)
Sagara Misae
Miyazawa Yukine
(Old Man)
20:38
18:35
10:25
7:04
5:25
4:49
4:36
2:24
1:49
0:47
0:41
0:39
0:13

Supporting characters are in italics.
(Unknowns) are those characters who cannot be determined whether significant or not at this point in time.

Main Supporting (Unknown)
Okazaki Tomoya
Furukawa Nagisa
Sunohara Youhei
Ibuki Fuko
Fujibayashi Ryou
Fujibayashi Kyou
Sakagami Tomoyo
Furukawa Sanae
Furukawa Akio
(Mysterious Girl / Voice)
Ichinose Kotone
Ibuki-sensei
Miyazawa Yukine
Botan
Yoshino Yuuske
Tomoya no Otou-san
Sagara Misae
(Mitsui)
(Old Man)1:41:05
55:29
29:16
19:41
13:55
12:46
10:07
9:01
6:03
4:46
2:50
2:48
2:38
2:20
1:57
1:05
1:01
0:47
0:13



Thanks for the intel!

I don't know if there is mcuh to say about this episode that hasn't already been said in the thread... I'm starting to really enjoy Fuu-chan's spaced-out moe moments.... she's a very fascinating chara... I'm glad I wasn't crazy when I thought they couldn't be stars .....

I don't know what to think about the lips debate... as can be seen in that very same shot... her other eyebrow goes through her hair line on her left eye... but it seems to start right at the fairline on the right eye (it's hard to tell in regular def) ... based on what I know of she should be gasping at the shock of her sisters actions (as normal) ... so its fitting.... but yeah... it just is werid placement fo the main chara here.... and obviously we're missing the whole scene due to 16x9 cut over ... oh well.... its an intereting grab none the less... I didnt see it the first time.

[arkxkra]

it seem is in Fuko route now, hope wont be a sad story...
this episode the most funny part is Tomoya ask Ryou to pretend he become girl and Fuko belive it, and when Kyou arrive, Fuko say have 3 Tomoya, i really lol ...:heh:
this episode don't have much kicking combo to see.....

[Sinestra]

I like this episode of course since i like them all so far. There is nothing much to say that has not been said already. However the person switch Tomoya did was so great i could stop laughing. Fu-chan is just too damn cute and im actually enjoying her story she had one line that stuck with me.

Nagisa: "What does your sister call you?"

Fuko: "Fu-Chan"

Nagisa "thats cute can i call you that?"

Fuko "Yes (all happily)

Tomoya "Can i call you Fu-Chan?"

Fuko "That would be horrible!"

OMG i laughed my ass off.

[The Chaos]

I like this episode of course since i like them all so far. There is nothing much to say that has not been said already. However the person switch Tomoya did was so great i could stop laughing. Fu-chan is just too damn cute and im actually enjoying her story she had one line that stuck with me.

Nagisa: "What does your sister call you?"

Fuko: "Fu-Chan"

Nagisa "thats cute can i call you that?"

Fuko "Yes (all happily)

Tomoya "Can i call you Fu-Chan?"

Fuko "That would be horrible!"

OMG i laughed my ass off.

You Know I gauss this is The best part of Ep :heh:
really funny ....

[Shiroth]

I agree about Fuko not looking like Ayu. I can't say it's a "repeated scenario" because Fuko's story hasn't finished yet and there's still a possibility it won't be like Ayu's.
Yeah i agree. Everytime we've seen Fuko, and especially episode five --- i have not once thought about Ayu, or her story. I guess people are jumping on this a bit to early?

[Mirrinus]

Yeah i agree. Everytime we've seen Fuko, and especially episode five --- i have not once thought about Ayu, or her story. I guess people are jumping on this a bit to early?

It's natural for people to latch onto the most obvious and superficial aspects for comparison. It keeps things simple and easy to organize. To some, the main things they think of for Fuuko are "childish high school student" and "astralprojection spirit who is really in a coma". If you only looked at those aspects of Fuuko, then yeah, of course she resembles Ayu.

Of course, to have such a view of Fuuko completely ignores the most important parts of her story. The fact that she's an astralprojection only garnered a few lines in passing by the characters of the show; compare that to all the time the characters spent helping her get people to celebrate her sister's wedding, or the effort the cast put into letting her feel like a real student at school just once. Her story differs drastically with Ayu's, I'd say; it's just that it's convenient to assign familiar superficial qualities to her for comparison, and leave it at that. It requires less effort and feels more familiar.

And of course, doing so also ignores important parts of Ayu's story, such as the childhood friendship she had with Yuuichi, or her admiration and respect for Nayuki, or her empathy with the grief that Yuuichi was going through, or the whole entire overarching theme of miracles.

[Major1138]

Considering the common source for both stories - I'm not entirely surprised that there are broad similarities between Ayu and Fuko's stories. Besides, the whole idea of helping an "astral projection" take care of "unfinished business" isn't an exactly very original plot to begin with, and it's the sort of plot that lends itself well to the world of visual novel games.

I don't mind if the general ideas are similar so long as they are executed well - Fuko's story isn't over yet, so I can't make a call on that count, but I do find it interesting so far. I think she's a fun character, especially how she seems so random about things (i.e. Tomoya as her "enemy" and only getting promoted from there, the basketball "shooting", the whole bit with Tomoya and the twins).

[holyman282]

There's no denying that she's a fun character and I would probably enjoy her comedic actions in short doses. But something about focusing several ep to do her arc really doesn't latch onto me, it would be better to probably keep her as a moe version of Sunohora..

[Sinestra]

There's no denying that she's a fun character and I would probably enjoy her comedic actions in short doses. But something about focusing several ep to do her arc really doesn't latch onto me, it would be better to probably keep her as a moe version of Sunohora..

I dont agree keeping her purely as comedic relief would be a better alternative. There is a point to her arc and they have slowly started to put her peices together. Each episode we learn a little bit more about her while continuing the other stories that are taking place. Also, her story has allowed for continue development between Nagisa and Tomoya. There is no way to tell her story properly in 1 or 2 episode's.

[Lapioc]

I agree with Sinestra. Her arc is necessary for good character development :)

[orion]

Besides Fuko is important imo. * saying anything else would be a spoiler. *

[AcroDave]

Wow, I can't believe no one else mentioned the classroom introductions:

Kyou: Sensei, Sunohara-kun is an idiot.
Youhei: Don't go saying things like that.
Tomoya: She would have found out soon enough.
Sanae: Sunohara-kun, make up for it with your energy!

Tomoya: I'm Tomoya. I'm a lazy bum at school.
Sanae: It's nice to handle things at your own pace!

Something about Sanae-sensei's 'encouraging' comments had me ROTFL.

I actually really hope that the Fuko arc would be over soon so they can concentrate on some more interesting girls.

Agree 100%. At least they're getting her out of the way FIRST, so we can clear the deck for the other arcs. All the other girls I actually WANT to learn more about. Hoping for Fuko arc wrap-up in episode 6! Good-bye Fu-Chan!

Each episode we learn a little bit more about her while continuing the other stories that are taking place.

I dunno. To me it feels like the plot has ground to a halt, while we deal with Fuko's arc. This was pretty annoying in Kanon as well (I'm looking at you Makoto!)

... all IMHO of course.

[toxic_trance]

Well...no point in arguing with whether Fuko's arc is important or not..See the stats...Has ever Kyo-Ani disappointed us even in a single girl's arc???

Even Sayuri-san's one episode arc was awesome. Lets just put our faith..and let the awesomeness unfold ^_^

[Ellis]

"I'm Okazaki, I've just turned into a girl" ... "Eh?!"
"Well, I guess..." :heh:

[Skyfall]

Well...no point in arguing with whether Fuko's arc is important or not..See the stats...Has ever Kyo-Ani disappointed us even in a single girl's arc???


I could rant on this for a bit, but that would be discussing Kanon, so no exactly appropriate here (lets not mention Air, where this was a rather noticable issue) :) As for Fuko - i am missing any form of emotional attachment to her, and it seems i am not alone on this, meaning for whatever reason something has gone wrong along the way. She could get kidnapped by aliens or disappear for whatever reasons, and i wouldn't care one way or another. In fact i am waiting for Fuko's arc to be over and done with so we can move on.

[Mirrinus]

Maybe so, but Fuuko's arc is doing wonders for the relationship between Nagisa and Tomoya. This doesn't feel like an unrelated story arc at all; it actually reinforces the budding relationship between the main couple, so I could hardly call it a waste. As Divini has kindly provided with us earlier, Nagisa had almost TWICE as much screentime in episode 5 as Fuuko did. From what I can see, this is turning out really different from Kanon, and I rather like it.

[FatPianoBoy]

As for Fuko - i am missing any form of emotional attachment to her at the moment
Fixed ;)
I just say 'wait.'

[orion]

I dunno. To me it feels like the plot has ground to a halt, while we deal with Fuko's arc. This was pretty annoying in Kanon as well (I'm looking at you Makoto!)

... all IMHO of course.

Well that's probably because of the way that Clannad is setup to operate, what has to be accomplished and not due to Fuko. (Just like in Kanon.)

FPB was right imo. Just wait and allow it to unfold.

[stonedzombie]

watching Okazaki run to the neighbor's sign and then run back and knock fuko on the head had me laughing pretty good. This show has turned out to be, surprisingly, quite hilarious.

couple quick questions:

1. Does Okazaki believe Fuko is that girl's sister? The one in a coma? If so, I'm surprised how he can accept the soul of a coma girl is walking around so easily. I'm still anxious to see how they pull her off

2. they haven't gone over what those floating orb things are yet right? Still want to make sure I haven't missed something.

[Kang Seung Jae]

1. Does Okazaki believe Fuko is that girl's sister? The one in a coma? If so, I'm surprised how he can accept the soul of a coma girl is walking around so easily. I'm still anxious to see how they pull her off

2. they haven't gone over what those floating orb things are yet right? Still want to make sure I haven't missed something.

1. I think it's still an ambiguous situaiton, for now.

2. No, they haven't.

[Curulan]

All I have to say is... Akio is so damn aweseome. :D

Also, I'm starting to love the Fuuku arc. It's just so "aww".

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

Fuuko looked like she got possessed by Konata's spirit in this episode...her thumbs up and facial expressions with the thumbs up was similar to what Konata would do.
Of course, I found the "Tomoya turned into a girl" gig really funny...Fuuko really is gullible, but she's cute that way.:)
OH yea and throwing the Star at Tomoya would gain "good damage bonus" was unexpected...hahahha it made Fuuko go all thumbs up with the idea...hahahha

[konstargirl]

Wow! Tis episodes basically about Fuko right. That was nice that Nagisa and tomoya tried to helped her out. I laughed when Tomoya was pretty mad at Fuko about they were starfish. :)

Thi anime is funny, sad and good. :D

[Mirrinus]

Right on schedule, excellent. ^_^

My favorite part of the episode was how Nagisa was the one to make a stand to help Fuuko, which is a notable departure from past Key/Visual Arts adaptations where the male protagonist usually does this sort of thing. That, and all the starfish humor at Tomoya's expense.

[fish eric]

i just started watching this series and i finished episode 5 about 2 minutes ago.


OMG that was the funniest anime episode I have ever seen. When fuko thinks that okazaki has turned into a girl. I was laughing as hard as okazaki was.

also this seen was done so well. the way that okazaki was cracking up was almost too realistic.

and the voice actress who does fuko's voice is doing an excellent job. she is the same as ayu in kanon right? ayu was my favorite character from that show, but the voice actress does an even better job with fuko's character. the way she has a touch of nerveousness to her voice.


duriburu duriburu shu-ta IT WENT IN!

[Ithekro]

No...but you might remember the actress that plays Fuuko as Ichijo in Pani Poni Dash (another weird girl) or Konoka in Negima. (Actress: Ai Nonaka)

However Ayu's voice actress would be the one playing Minori in Toradora currently. (Actress: Yui Horie)

And yes, Clannad can be histerical when it wants to be. it can also be dramatic (and cry worthy...it is a Key product) when it wants to be.

[fish eric]

wow, i coulda swore that was ayu. thanks for the heads up.

i just finished episode 7. again it was halarious.

i think the game is almost translated. im gonna have to play it.


hmm now that i am hearing her talk normal and not in that voice where every word is a surprise to hear she doesnt sound like ayu