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NoSanninWa
2007-11-02, 00:49
Welcome to the monthly discussion thread for Claymore, Chapter 74.

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http://a.imagehost.org/0005/claymore74dj6.jpg

With this chapter Yagi-sensei finally returns to the story line after a 4 month break. We've really been enjoying the extra chapters ES1, ES2, ES3 and ES4, but we are overjoyed to finally get chapter 74 so we can find out what happens next. :D

Chapter 75 will be released in the first week of December, a month from now.
Update: Release date of chapter 75 is Dec 4.

romulusx5
2007-11-02, 00:54
Welcome to the monthly discussion thread for Claymore, Chapter 74.

Thread Guidelines
Raw requests and offers are not permitted anywhere on this forum.
The Claymore manga is licensed by Viz so questions about scanlations or answers about scanlation are not allowed. Remember that AnimeSuki does not enable downloading of any licensed anime or manga.
Discuss your expectations of the chapter if it has not been published yet.
Be polite to your fellow forum members.
Please try to keep the discussion on topic.
Spoilers will not be policed in this thread, so if you haven't read the chapter yet, just stay out if you don't want to read spoilers.


http://a.imagehost.org/0005/claymore74dj6.jpg

With this chapter Yagi-sensei finally returns to the story line after a 4 month break. We've really been enjoying the extra chapters ES1, ES2, ES3 and ES4, but we are overjoyed to finally get chapter 74 so we can find out what happens next. :D

Chapter 75 will be released in the first week of December, a month from now.

holy fast nosanniwa! thanks for the cover.

hamstar
2007-11-02, 01:12
i dont think the raw is out yet, it probably comes out today or tomorrow.

NoSanninWa
2007-11-02, 01:14
And it won't be until a while after that when I finally read the translation. Still... it is really nice to see the cover. It's particularly nice to see Clarice in full-color since she actually has color.

romulusx5
2007-11-02, 01:19
And it won't be until a while after that when I finally read the translation. Still... it is really nice to see the cover. It's particularly nice to see Clarice in full-color since she actually has color.

true. it's great to see the cover but i have been waiting for 5 months to find out who the "mystery warrior" is. i have imagined miata and clarice swordfighting (insert here) on the cover though.

mosmos
2007-11-02, 01:21
Someone, please post it's spoilers please!!
I cannot wait

Thank you for the cover page.

KiNA
2007-11-02, 01:31
Damn fine woman there, sweetie pie.. wished your hair longer tho :p

redmeat
2007-11-02, 03:45
Clarice seems shocked. Miata looks very focused. Must be a very powerful opponent.

Flar
2007-11-02, 06:20
Clarice looks more like she is saying "freeze and drop your weapon, you betraying scum, I have a Miata and I'm not afraid to use it", rather than be shocked, to me.

Icephere
2007-11-02, 07:43
http://www.tsstorry.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=3756&extra=page%3D1

Can someone translate any spoilers in that site?

KiNA
2007-11-02, 07:59
I dunno any spoiler .. but damn those chibi awaken owns <3

xooms
2007-11-02, 08:24
Hi, I'm a newbie and have been lurking around for some time but after reading the forum that Icephere sent, I couldn't take it anymore. I sure hope what's been mentioned there isnt true and that I've misread the name or something but...

GALATEA HAS BECOME BLIND!!!!!!

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-02, 08:26
Are they in Rabona? It kind of looks like it, seeing as that is the only town that size we have seen in the Claymoreverse.

Edit: Ruh oh, if that spoiler is true things are about to get whacky.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 08:41
OMG:frustrated:

Yagi is so dead if that spoiler is true!
But thinking about it, if she is blind already he can't let Miata kill her unless he is a complete a**wipe.

cors8
2007-11-02, 08:43
There better be a damn good reason if that spoiler is true.

zato_1one
2007-11-02, 08:52
Eh... Really? *_*

She's defensive type. Why doesn't she regenerate herself?

HinaThePrince
2007-11-02, 08:52
But thinking about it, if she is blind already he can't let Miata kill her unless he is a complete a**wipe.

Galatea should be able to fight even without her eyesight. You know, epic skills, Youki reading, etc. It would be pretty amusing to find out The Eye is blind, though.

Flar
2007-11-02, 08:57
Until I see the raw, I'll consider that this blindness is about her not being able to see Miata and and Clarice while they are under the yoki-suppressing pills effect.

In other news, if the spoiler is not about Galatea elsewhere in the world, it seems she was the one in the city after all. No Rafaella or Ghost 7. Damn.

Icephere
2007-11-02, 08:58
Why the hell is she blinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd?:frustrated:
I used google translator and from the posts, it seems that they have been pointing out to a blind character :confused:

Fate_Archer
2007-11-02, 08:59
Whoa, if that's true... I wasn't prepared for that...

But it makes me think... if she became blind... could some other sense of hers become even more accurate?
Like Probably her yoki-sensing and subsequently her manipulation?

While in 'Shadow Chaser', Nina close her eyes and chase her enemy just following the yoki track.
If that's true, Galatea could fight accordingly using her sense (even more detailed now), in a style similar to Teresa.

Oh man, how long is gonna take to be released... :(

Edit:
Eh... Really? *_*

She's defensive type. Why doesn't she regenerate herself?

Thinking well, yeah, even Raphaela who was an offensive type could perfectly regenerate her wounded eye, so why Galatea who is a defensive type couldn't?
There has to be a good reason for this.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 09:01
She could become a cool blind sensei type

xooms
2007-11-02, 09:30
Yeah, they better have a good reason for it... Still in disbelief.. Shall wait to actually SEE the manga itself to believe it and hope that the people at the other forum are wrong...

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-02, 09:55
I don't know if the spoiler is true or not, but if it is, Galatea is definatly screwed.

If she really is blind, and have developed her fighting style around Yoki-sensing, she is just worse off against Miata then she was before, as Yoki-supression pills make Miata and Clarice undetectable. She is much better off if she developed her other senses instead, you know, typical blind-swordsman style.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 09:58
I don't know if the spoiler is true or not, but if it is, Galatea is definatly screwed.

If she really is blind, and have developed her fighting style around Yoki-sensing, she is just worse off against Miata then she was before, as Yoki-supression pills make Miata and Clarice undetectable. She is much better off if she developed her other senses instead, you know, typical blind-swordsman style.

I don't want to speculate any further about this till I see the manga myself...my heart is aching already as it is :mad::sad:

*goes into mental chaos* YAAAAAAAAAGI - KUUUUN

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 09:59
She could become a cool blind sensei type

Tha'ts not cool at all. You take that back :frustrated:

cajunman380
2007-11-02, 10:00
has anyone considered th epossibility that shes faking blindness in order to blend in with the human people. I mean aside from the blond hair, the only major thing identifying her as a claymore would be her eyes. Plus as many have said shes defesive so she can regenerate her eyes.

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-02, 10:02
has anyone considered th epossibility that shes faking blindness in order to blend in with the human people. I mean aside from the blond hair, the only major thing identifying her as a claymore would be her eyes. Plus as many have said shes defesive so she can regenerate her eyes.

That is a good point, if she pretended to be blind, she could very well fit into the human population. If she is faking it, then she has indeed found a good hiding place.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 10:05
has anyone considered th epossibility that shes faking blindness in order to blend in with the human people. I mean aside from the blond hair, the only major thing identifying her as a claymore would be her eyes. Plus as many have said shes defesive so she can regenerate her eyes.

a ray of hope

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 11:45
RAW is out on bittorent.

Squawks
2007-11-02, 11:45
Yep, she is one damn awesome nun. Also Galk and the other dude lol.

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 11:52
Wow Galatea has a scar going horizontal across her eyes as well as shes in a nun outfit. Totally not what I imagine but she's still holding her own against miata so far. Not sure if that's the sacred town that was in the earlier chapters but those look like the 2 knights that helped Clare defeat that yoma in church.

Squawks
2007-11-02, 11:58
Wow Galatea has a scar going horizontal across her eyes as well as shes in a nun outfit. Totally not what I imagine but she's still holding her own against miata so far. Not sure if that's the sacred town that was in the earlier chapters but those look like the 2 knights that helped Clare defeat that yoma in church.
It is that town where Claymore are banned. And Galatea looks more cooler now.

Also to the people who whine about that one spoiler, don't like it, but;
DEAL WITH IT.

I know it's hard, but srsly, keep that damn SPOILER IN TAGS, I know this is the manga topic, but it's just annoying. :(

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 11:59
> > heheh... me finds it me think.... now mes happy.....

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 12:01
It is that town where Claymore are banned. And Galatea looks more cooler now.




lol you can always edit and put it back in spoiler :D


lol I dont know man. I prefer her with eyeballs. Hmm I'm not sure if there's a time limit for regernating parts for a defensive warrior.

NoSanninWa
2007-11-02, 12:04
Just a word of advice to anyone who doesn't want to read spoilers about Chapter 74 in this thread: This is the chapter 74 discussion thread. The minute you enter this thread you should expect to see people talking about CHAPTER 74!!!! People are being very nice to use spoiler tags, but I wouldn't dream of criticising someone for not using tags for merely discussing the topic of this thread as so clearly explained by the thread's title.

If you don't want to learn what happens in chapter 74 until you read it for yourself, then just stay the heck out of the thread.

Fate_Archer
2007-11-02, 12:04
WOW!

Firstly:


GARATEAAAA POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!


*stop for catching my breath*

Impressive, so it's really true. Galatea is blind.
Not only that but...

She avoided and dodged in an incredible way Miata's blows. Maybe my theory in the above posts was right. She can be sensing the hits like Teresa did. That's the only explanation for why she can dodge so skillfully Miata's blows.

And...

It seems that our old friends Galk and <insert the name of the other one here> are there. So, the probability of this town being Rabona is 99.999991245%.
There are the great numbers of guards as well.



I'm already counting the days until next month.

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 12:07
WOW!

Firstly:


GARATEAAAA POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!


*stop for catching my breath*

Impressive, so it's really true. Galatea is blind.
Not only that but...

She avoided and dodged in an incredible way Miata's blows. Maybe my theory in the above posts was right. She can be sensing the hits like Teresa did. That's the only explanation for why she can dodge so skillfully Miata's blows.

I'm already counting the days until next month.


lol ok since NoSanninwa posted that.


Archer I wonder if she took out her own eyes for some reason to increase her sensing abilities or something beneficial ~_~.

Fate_Archer
2007-11-02, 12:12
Yeah, it can be. And makes much sense, that could be the way that Galatea found to improve.

Me wants translated version NOW!!!!

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 12:14
That's the perfect hiding place that the org would of never suspected. lol a Nun!!
I'm going to mess around and translate the katakana/Hirgana and see if I can make some sense of this ~_~

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-02, 12:15
Here is a quick chapter summery of what I saw from the RAW.

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The Town appears to be Rabona, where Claymores are banned, both Clarice and Miata wear cloaks to disguise themselves, but a guard notices their armored boots and attempts to stop them. One of the two Rabona Knights back from Clare's Rabona arc, Sid, offers to help them escape, Clarice accepts and he helps her get to the roof of a building, he offers to help Miata too, who simply jumps up to the roof instead. Sid leads them to a place to hide, Galk is there, and Clarice seems suspicious, but Galk calms her down and apparently has story time or something with her.

Scene switch to a cloaked Nun watching children leave with a priest, the cloaked nun says something that suprises the priest, before he can inquire further, Clarice and Miata show up infront of them. After saying something, the Nun is immediatly attacked by Miata, but dodges the attack, Clarice attempts to attack, but the Nun dodges her attack, which strikes a piller. The nun ignores Clarice and focuses on evading Miata's (rather destructive) attacks. The nun leads Miata to a confession box, which Miata swings through, but her sword stops. The Confession Box has a Claymore inside, which the nun (obviously Galatea) is now holding. Galatea uses Yoki and attacks Miata, Miata blocks the attack but is knocked back into the streets.

The Nun and the priest exchange a few words, and then Clarice begins to talk to Galatea, Galatea's nun-hood is removed and her eyes are blank, a scar running across her face. She is apparently blind now, Miata begins attacking one again, growing frustrated with her inability to land a solid hit on Galatea, Galatea is apprently manipulating Miata's energy, even through the Supression pills (guess I lost that bet.) but Miata grits her teeth and blows through Galatea's manipulation, Galatea now looks pressed, her smile from earlier gone. (I won that one though.)

The Scene switches to Galk and Sid, who can hear the sounds of the battle, the chapter ends.

I am loving this chapter, I KNEW Sid and Galk would show up again one day!

Galatea's blindness is a suprise, and her Yoki-manipulation has indeed taken a turn for the better if she can manipulate someone who is on supression-pills, but Miata is not one to leave us unimpressed either, and blows right through Galatea's manipulation.

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 12:18
GAHHHHH!!!!!! Okay well thats unexpected. She could have done that herself but what a weird way to put yer own eyes out. Either way I'm pretty sure she chose to remain that way.

She could regenerate if she wanted to.

Her Yoki Sense is insane if anything its been heightened since shes blind, most people who loose a sense get better at their others.

Miata seems to be using Yoki, or if anything Galatea is making her use it LOL, just cause shes not using it doesn't mean its not there.

Galatea does seem to have a bit of Clare/Teresa goin on dodge wise. Which makes sense, Clare used one of her moves. No reason with practice that Galatea couldn't do likewise.

I still think Galatea is partial awakened now, or worse yet, fully awakened and hiding it.

LOL she has her eyes hidden away so when she's killed Clare has dibs and plugs them in her head. Clare, the Voltron of Claymores :) Joking Joking.

Fate_Archer
2007-11-02, 12:30
The yoki pills are supposed to only suppress the yoki. It doesn't make it completely fade.
So the yoki is there, but in a completely lessened amount, so faint that almost can't be sensed.

Galatea being able to manipulate it represents a great improvement on her sense, probably because of her blind condition.

Man, Yagi really doesn't disappoint.
Five months of waiting but a great chapter, and Galatea is so... WOW... I must control myself now.

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-02, 12:32
The yoki pills are supposed to only suppress the yoki. It doesn't make it completely fade.
So the yoki is there, but in a completely lessened amount, so faint that almost can't be sensed.

Galatea being able to manipulate it represents a great improvement on her sense, probably because of her blind condition.

Man, Yagi really doesn't disappoint.
Five months of waiting but a great chapter, and Galatea is so... WOW... I must control myself now.

Or Galatea's skills have grown to the point she can force Yoki out of it's supressed state, otherwise Miria's plan would not have worked in the Battle for Pieta. I prefer to believe her skill has grown that much, her blind condition has indeed improved her in ways I did not think possible.

Miata is pretty damn impressive too, she figured out what was going on after only a few blows.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 12:34
What a frigging awesome chapter...I want the translation NOW:frustrated:

Galatea is the sexiest nun there is, handsdown and it looks like I was right assuming she can still manipulate Yoki despite Yoki suppression pills. I just hope things don't end bad...i cannot see the story progressing with Galatea simplying dying here. She still has something to give to Clare, much like Irene me thinks (withouth sharing her ...erm fate :uhoh:).

I don't think Miata figured out whats going on , she reacts much like a frustrated kid with anger management issues and strikes with all her power.

KiNA
2007-11-02, 12:35
That part where it shows the full face with the empty eye is sooo cooolll.. and pretty ..

And those leg ... :naughty:


OK.. especially those legs :p

cors8
2007-11-02, 12:45
Have to say a blind nun disguise is a perfect way to hide all the commonly known features of a Claymore.

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 12:52
Miata is so gonna awaken.... very similar situation as Priss vs Teresa, Shes angry, frustrated and out of control. I sense a near Teresa Caliber disaster brewing here.

Also, I think Raphaela may be in cahoots with Galatea... Just call it a hunch. I think they hooked up right after the stink Lucy died.

redmeat
2007-11-02, 12:58
The end of the anime version of Claymore was a dead giveaway that Galatea was hiding in a church, but I definitely didn't expect her to be blind :twitch:

Fate_Archer
2007-11-02, 12:59
Or Galatea's skills have grown to the point she can force Yoki out of it's supressed state, otherwise Miria's plan would not have worked in the Battle for Pieta. I prefer to believe her skill has grown that much, her blind condition has indeed improved her in ways I did not think possible.

Miata is pretty damn impressive too, she figured out what was going on after only a few blows.

Don't know if she really realized that, as we know, this technique seems to have the same weakness as usual: the inability to manipulate an attack with full power.
Miata could just have gone with all her strength.

Anyway, Galatea is the point here. Her ability to avoid the blows unarmed was really impressive.
It needs a really good reading of the hit to so skillfully, dodge it unarmed without taking into account that she is blind now.

We haven't seen a strength or speed improvement yet. But it's still possible.
And as usual, her yoki-increase pwns.

Now that Galatea was introduced in a so cool way, I can't see her dying in the next chapters.
It's against the shounen manga standards.

You can't introduce a freakin awesome character like this in one chapter, and right on the next chapters, kill it.

Anyway, I'm glad we come back to the main story now. :)

Galatea-sama... *go worship Galatea in my Galatea's shrine*

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 13:08
welp I tried to translate the last Galatea line a bit ~_~

kuso, moo sukoshi yatsu ni chikazuite kara to omottetan da ga

shoot! i thought [i could have done it? should do it?] after getting a little closer to her"

yay for begining japanese self studying.


She's in a jam but she'll pull through it unless miata unawakens.

First time seeing a raw manga. Im glad they translate all the kanji to hiragana.

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-02, 13:21
Don't know if she really realized that, as we know, this technique seems to have the same weakness as usual: the inability to manipulate an attack with full power.
Miata could just have gone with all her strength.

That is my point, I always said Miata would instinctually realize what was going on, she might not understand it at an intellectual level, but she does understand that if she focuses she can blow right past it.

Anyway, Galatea is the point here. Her ability to avoid the blows unarmed was really impressive.
It needs a really good reading of the hit to so skillfully, dodge it unarmed without taking into account that she is blind now.

I think that is when the manipulation was taking place, she uses her new found abilities with Yoki-sensing and Yoki-manipulation to put her opponents attacks exactly where she wants them.

We haven't seen a strength or speed improvement yet. But it's still possible.
And as usual, her yoki-increase pwns.

Yes, her Yoki-increase is as impressive as ever.

Now that Galatea was introduced in a so cool way, I can't see her dying in the next chapters.
It's against the shounen manga standards.

I don't think she will die either.

You can't introduce a freakin awesome character like this in one chapter, and right on the next chapters, kill it.

Lol, maybe not the next chapter, but they did kill Flora pretty quickly after introducing her.

Anyway, I'm glad we come back to the main story now. :)

Aren't we all :heh:

Galatea-sama... *go worship Galatea in my Galatea's shrine*

Lol she will need your prayers from the looks of it.


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Not really sure how people are getting the impression Miata is reacting like Priscilla, their reactions are quite different really, Miata was immediatly trying to finish her task and did not hesitate at all, and only grew upset when Galatea' was manipulating her, then she releases her Yoki to counter Galatea's technique, and is now forcing Galatea on the defensive.

and if getting frustrated is a sign of awakening, Galatea looked pretty frustrated in the last panel too.

By the looks of it, Miata has not even gone 10% yet. We can't even tell with Galatea anymore :p

Its going to be one intense battle, but I sense alot of potential for interruption :(

Flar
2007-11-02, 13:21
I'm a bit disappointed, I'm not sure why. Maybe because except for the reappearance of the Rabona guys and Galatea's blindness, nothing unexpected happens, the chapter is basically Miata finding Galatea and starting to fight.

I like the art though, especially that frame:
http://www.casimages.com/img/jpg/mini_071102072205142631381191.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=071102072205142631381191.jpg)

Flar
2007-11-02, 13:25
Now that Galatea was introduced in a so cool way, I can't see her dying in the next chapters.
It's against the shounen manga standards.*cough* Flora *cough*

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 13:26
I'm a bit disappointed, I'm not sure why. Maybe because except for the reappearance of the Rabona guys and Galatea's blindness, nothing unexpected happens, the chapter is basically Miata finding Galatea and starting to fight.

I like the art though, especially that frame:
http://www.casimages.com/img/jpg/mini_071102072205142631381191.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=071102072205142631381191.jpg)

Me too:heh:

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 13:28
*cough* Flora *cough*

Flora was simply introduced once and thats it no improvement nothing..Galatea had made couple of appearances and she is back stronger than ever...go play in kindergarden Miata :mad:

Now i need to listen to Kataritsugu koto to calm myself down...meh

zato_1one
2007-11-02, 13:35
What a sexy nun! (also very tall nun, I must say)

Don't know what causes her to be blind but at least she's still the most sexy and beautiful. :naughty: Furthermore, she seems 100 times cooler than before too. :D Can't wait for translated version.

I'm sure that for next manga character poll (if it has), Galatea will give all those fab/ghost 7 a run for their money. :heh:

Oh my... Claymore never fail to surprise me really! Even the best looking character can turn blind and has a scar on her face. kudos to Yagi-sensei!

Mentar
2007-11-02, 13:42
I'm a bit disappointed, I'm not sure why. Maybe because except for the reappearance of the Rabona guys and Galatea's blindness, nothing unexpected happens [...]

*blinks*

Reads to me like "except for the state banquet and 8-course gourmet meal, we were left to starve..."

Fate_Archer
2007-11-02, 13:52
That is my point, I always said Miata would instinctually realize what was going on, she might not understand it at an intellectual level, but she does understand that if she focuses she can blow right past it.


Right.

I think that is when the manipulation was taking place, she uses her new found abilities with Yoki-sensing and Yoki-manipulation to put her opponents attacks exactly where she wants them.

It seems that her manipulation has grown stronger, but she was not only manipulating.
Most of the scenes, she was dodging and evading Miata's blows. She even tore her dress to have more mobility (and that was the sexiest thing that ever happened in this Manga).

I think that, now, with her new nature of seeing things, she has an even more higher chance to properly dodge and evade her enemy attacks.

Yes, her Yoki-increase is as impressive as ever.

GARATEA POWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

I don't think she will die either.

Amen brother.

Lol, maybe not the next chapter, but they did kill Flora pretty quickly after introducing her.

Never liked Flora, and I don't get how so many people find her so cool. She is envy, think of her comrades as expendable and has a cold appearance. She is an obscure character.
But it's true, she died early. Hope Galatea won't share this same fate.

Aren't we all :heh:

:D

Lol she will need your prayers from the looks of it.

And now is born a new religion: the cult of Galatea, goddess of Beauty and the new found awesomeness. :bow:


Not really sure how people are getting the impression Miata is reacting like Priscilla, their reactions are quite different really, Miata was immediatly trying to finish her task and did not hesitate at all, and only grew upset when Galatea' was manipulating her, then she releases her Yoki to counter Galatea's technique, and is now forcing Galatea on the defensive.

By the looks of it, Miata has not even gone 10% yet. We can't even tell with Galatea anymore :p

Its going to be one intense battle, but I sense alot of potential for interruption :(

Yeah, next chapter we will probably have Galk and Sid interfering in this battle.

And that's where the Priss feeling is going to take control of Miata.
She won't listen to them.
and if getting frustrated is a sign of awakening, Galatea looked pretty frustrated in the last panel too.

In the same way she was frustrated in the battle against Dauf, but she haven't lost control for a second.

*cough* Flora *cough*

As I said, I don't think Flora fits in that category. :)

Ps: I'm sorry Flora fans, but that's my own opinion. I ask you to do not start a Holy War between the Flora's and Galatea's religion.

Majek
2007-11-02, 14:10
Someone has to die though, so who WILL die then?

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 14:11
I meant that Miata is a prime canidate to awaken. Shes frustrated yes, but shes also feral. The term ape$4!t is said for a reason :). If the fight goes poorly I can see her wigging out like Priss did, however, no one really tried to comfort Priss. Irene kinda half ass tried and Teresa just said. "YER DOOMED!" To be fair Miata has Clarice, we'll get so see how much of a influence she has over the lil monster.

OH GOOD CALL about Galk showing up. He'll definately try n stop it. Which side will they be on though. I think Galk sent them to "Talk" to the nun not knowing why they were there. Either way I think he or his friend will get killed trying to get involved. I'm sorry I just have a bad bad feeling about Miata. Even Clarice does. "She scares me the most."

Who knows, perhaps Miata was built from an awakened ones chowder. The org did find Ophelia's remains after all. So I don't see why they couldn't implant them. It works with Yoma and Claymores. Course it seems like a horribly bad idea though,

As for Flora's death vs the potential for Galatea dying. I think Galatea will die at some point. I highly doubt it this is the time though. I think the fight will get broken up some how or another.

I take back my comment about the possibility of Galatea awakening. Shes far to "In control" for that to happen. Something really badass had to have went down at some point though for her not to fix the scar at least. She does have that thing about looks :) "You'll have to endure this ugly face a moment." RAGGHHH More questions than answers. DAMN YOU GOOD WRITER!!!

killer3000ad
2007-11-02, 14:20
NOOOO!! ARGHHH! MY EYES!!! HER EYES!! WHat happened to Galatea??? She's handicapping herself damn it! If they can make pills that suppress their youki then then should be able to make contact lenses! Plot device be damned! Galatea did better still own Miss Pacifier and co! WAR GALATEA!

irvinethearcher
2007-11-02, 14:27
Hi, i'm new and have a Question: Why ist galatea blind? She a defensive type and are defensive types not capable of regenerating things like eyes, arms... ?
My theorie on this is that galatea somehow not intended to regenerate so far, but why? Some kind of carnouflage for her? Or some method to train her sensing abillities?
If that's true than she can surely not regenerate during this battle and have to fight blind.

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 14:32
Man! I was expecting a sexy battle outfit.... not some cosplay outfit ~_~

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 14:34
Hi, i'm new and have a Question: Why ist galatea blind? She a defensive type and are defensive types not capable of regenerating things like eyes, arms... ?
My theorie on this is that galatea somehow not intended to regenerate so far, but why? Some kind of carnouflage for her? Or some method to train her sensing abillities?
If that's true than she can surely not regenerate during this battle and have to fight blind.

Maybe you're right on this one and she wanted to raise her Yoki reading and other senses by blinding herself. She shouldnt have a problem regenerating from what we know. We don't know about her regenerative abilities but I think your're right to assume she cannot do it mid-battle like for example Deneve.

Fate Archer, my friend it is time to spread the word of our beloved Goddess

hamstar
2007-11-02, 14:42
WOW this has been the best chapter of claymore in a long time. Galatea is as sexy as ever and now.............the coolest character in the series.

freaking blinds herself!! caught me off guard

chibamonster
2007-11-02, 14:47
blast! I forgot that we were doing an individual thread for each new chapter... oh well.

Poor Galatea, she would never realize how many people were checking her out unless they were awakened beings or claymores. I would guess her senses beyond her uber youkiness are pretty good now too.

Next big question is who is coming in the next chapter? Is it one of the awakened beings we already know or is it a new character (I hope for a youma/human hybrid)? It doesn't seem like Riful, Isley, or Priscilla's style to scream loud enough for everyone to hear them and most of the other awakened beings we've met are dead. Maybe Dauff, but I really hope not.

How ironic would it be if Raki came back to the city of Rabona as an awakened being to feast? I really hope the noise didn't come from galatea...

And does Galk ever change out of his armor?

hamstar
2007-11-02, 15:09
anyone else think her personality has changed?

She used to be pretty easy-going and now.............. well............

just what i thought about reading the new chapter.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 15:14
anyone else think her personality has changed?

She used to be pretty easy-going and now.............. well............

just what i thought about reading the new chapter.

I doubt you would be easy going after being chased and trying to keep a low profile for 7 years?Besides she seems pretty chilled out while seeing the kids off and we have yet to see her during a more ...erm calm moment?

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 15:24
OMFG galetea is blind :sad:tell me ur joking

But i thought irene was gonna be there :sad:
and if there is a flora and Galatea religion
ill go with flora cause i :love: her

Xellos-_^
2007-11-02, 15:43
Galatea in rip up nun outfit = superhot

i wonder how the org will deal with the fall out.

Claymores are illegal in Rabona yet the org just sent 2 into the city (even if the they did it on thier own).

And i love to see Rafalla come out of the church also in a nun outfit

GundamZZ
2007-11-02, 15:43
To the basher of Wind Slayer, you don't deserve the love from any Claymore :rolleyes:

When Clarice realizes Galatea may already know their coming, she calls Miata to release yoma strength. Is Miata going to transform? Did "Tuxedo Mask" informed Galatea?

edf91
2007-11-02, 16:05
Kind of interesting for Galatea to be so "warm" toward children and stuff - even the priest commented on it. She did ask the priest to take care of the children and for him to get away, so she sure seems to be more "approachable" then before.

I think one of the reason Galatea is blind now because Clarice mentioned that they can take pills to suppress their youki to change their eye color, but it won't last, therefore in order for people not to see their eye color, they basically have to keep it shut, and you cannot keep it shut better than Galatea's way of doing it.

It is interesting to see why Galatea didn't just leave, although it is interesting to see that there are sounds of yoma about the same time they were fighting.

Of course Clarice want Miata to release youki, as since she figure out Galatea already know they are coming, that means it could be a trap, and therefore doing the job and get the hell out is the best option to take.

I just feel sorry for Galatea, seems like she just want to live a quiet life - although I could be wrong since my Japanese skill sucks :(

Gooral
2007-11-02, 16:07
WOW this has been the best chapter of claymore in a long time. Galatea is as sexy as ever and now.............the coolest character in the series.

freaking blinds herself!! caught me off guard
I have to verify my ranking now. Clare has now a rival for #2 spot. People that voted Galatea over Miria in the poll made the right decision :P (they have great intuition :)). Yagi-sensei shows his genius again, not only he shocked everyone (although many possible scenarios were considered) but he made it really awesome. Shocking isn't that hard, but shocking and making it great at the same time is. Wow, can't believe everything in this chapter is perfect. Drawings have never been that marvellous, and Galatea.... :bow:

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 16:07
Yes Raphaela and Galatea together with one eye between them taking on the world would ROCK!!! Also for some sneaky reason I think Irene may still be alive.. Handicap Church of DOOM.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 16:07
We can't see if Miata is going golden-eyed or not when she releases her Yoki.

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 16:11
I have to verify my ranking now. Clare has now a rival for #2 spot. People that voted Galatea over Miria in the poll made the right decision :P (they have great intuition :)). Yagi-sensei shows his genius again, not only he shocked everyone (although many possible scenarios were considered) but he made it really awesome. Shocking isn't that hard, but shocking and making it great at the same time is. Wow, can't believe everything in this chapter is perfect. Drawings have never been that marvellous, and Galatea.... :bow:

Wauuugh I still profess my love for Jean, she wasn't the prettiest and her ability was kinda gross, but her personality more than made up for it!! She'll always have my vote. Fly on Jean Fly on!!!!!!!! :)

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 16:12
I fixed that sig for you baal.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7417/bannersymbolnewrblueishvg7.jpg

emu777
2007-11-02, 16:13
I thought this chapter was very well done, Galatea being alive was a surprise. Her being in Rabona(a city that abhors un-naturality) surpised me more. But the fact that she was blind surpised me the most. Just her luck meeting Miata, and blowing her cover in front of the priest(not to mention serious amounts of property damage.:D). I guess she really has an "eye" for trouble (bad pun:p). One thing I was wondering about, why isnt there a 1-10 poll on this chapter? Are we not going to do the same thing we did for the anime?

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 16:15
I have to verify my ranking now. Clare has now a rival for #2 spot. People that voted Galatea over Miria in the poll made the right decision :P (they have great intuition :)). Yagi-sensei shows his genius again, not only he shocked everyone (although many possible scenarios were considered) but he made it really awesome. Shocking isn't that hard, but shocking and making it great at the same time is. Wow, can't believe everything in this chapter is perfect. Drawings have never been that marvellous, and Galatea.... :bow:

I only voted once and that was for Galatea. The Galatea band wagon is overflowing so I gotta switch to Clare sig for awhile till it calms down. :eyebrow:

Now if my next theory is right they will run off to an active volcano to do battle.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 16:27
I fixed that sig for you baal.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7417/bannersymbolnewrblueishvg7.jpg

LoL, erm thanks Sassarai:heh:

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 16:29
I don't like her without pretty eyes :mad:

Did they ever discuss in the manga how long a Defensive warrior has till they are not able to regenerate their eyes? Or can they regenrate it whenever they feel like it?

I was hoping she will regernate her eyes when the going gets tough ~_~

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 16:32
My heart cry:( when i see that sig
why did galetea have to go blind:sad:

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 16:34
My heart cry:( when i see that sig
why did galetea have to go blind:sad:

I think she might have done it for training purposes and to hide her Claymore identity amongt humans so if given the chance she could easily regenerate it.
I miss her sexy eyes too :( but she looks cool & sexy nevertheless:love:

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 16:37
but i wish they could tell us if Irene is dead or is somewhere living or maybeshe is the same city with Galetea :p

khryoleoz
2007-11-02, 16:40
Oh no. The poor girl lost her sight. She's won my sympathy now. How poetic, given that she was once their eye. :(

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 16:40
but i wish they could tell us if Irene is dead or is somewhere living or maybeshe is the same city with Galetea :p

I can see Galatea,Irene and Rafaela regularly meeting up for tea to talk about their Claymore days:heh:

Scenario: Irene bragging about how she fought the two most powerful beings ever in the Claymore world while Rafaela and Galatea rolling their eyes at her

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 16:44
:heh: lol yea they should make an Chapter about that :p

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 16:46
Well oddly she has eyes in her head still .... you'd think they'd have healed normally or not at all. Raphaela flat out is missing an eye. Now if she gouged her non working eyes out, could she grow fresh ones? Since shes scarred up and blind she obviously had to work to let that heal "Normally??? instead of regenerating. Also I'm thinking if a Claymore is unconcious they won't heal as well. Clare was laid up for days. Perhaps she got the snot beat out of her and was passed out so long she couldn't heal them properly and just kept it that way. Kinda like the standard rule for fantasy healing. Magic healing doesn't leave scars, if ya heal it normally it does.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 16:49
Hmmm now that Galatea is blind both her and Miata are fighting by relying on their senses...in the case of Galatea that is probably paired with her Yoki sensing ability.Maybe she is using it in a similiar fashion Teresa and Clare did

Defiled one
2007-11-02, 17:45
Regenerating an eye is not the same as regenerating an arm or a leg. "She probably doesnīt know how to do it"

Besides her wound doesnīt seem self inflicted and Galatea probably has a sight like the "daredevil".

If the wound is not really self inflicted then who made her blind? Riful? Maybe, if she lied to Clare.

Priscilla and Easley? I doubt it

Luciela or rafaela? maybe....

Raki? if so...I really donīt wanna know what type of bastard he is.

random awakened?...Probably.

GinGanNoRigardo
2007-11-02, 17:49
Hi, I found the translation of this Chapter


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Miata: Uh---

Crarice: No, don't put it off. There would be no meaning of surpressing Yoma enegy til now if they know we're here.

Clarice: But if it's here...though there is a saying that a forest is where to hide a tree...in a way, it might be the hardest place to find her...

Clarice: Holy town...Labona...

(*Clarice and Miata getting found by a soldier)

Soldier: Oi you, what is on your back? Put off your cape and show us.

Clarice: This is bad, Miata

(*Clarice and Miata running, getting sandwiched)

Man(Syd) : Hey, come here

Clarice: !

Man(Syd) : Jump up here. You can do it, can't you?

Clarice: Eh...? We're going Miata, follow me.

(*Clarice getting on the rooftop)

Man(Syd) : It's your turn, girl.

Miata: Mama...

Clarice: Hurry Miata, quick!
(*Jump)

(*In the shed(?))

Man(Syd) : come in, they won't find you here

Gark : what happened? Didn't you went for a patroll, Syd...

Syd: I just found interesting things on the way... it's two claymore warriors, Gark.

Gark: what?

Clarice: th...this is a trap, isn't it? We cannot be caught right here. I know the holy town of Labona won't take us, but we have something to do here.

Gark: Calm down. This town has been changing since that day in seven years ago. It's quite generous there now.

Clarice: Eh?

Syd: We had been saved by one of your comrades. Since then with helps from Father Vincent, those kind of deeds were moderated. Well, we can't cooperate openly still though. Those soldiers just now might had only been chasing a mysterious guy. You looked not wanted to be known your identity, that was why I helped you.

(*sorry, gonna skip a few things...basically Syd and Gark thought there were another request to slash the Yoma, and Clarice was told that there had been some people had been missing. She asked for a deal, what they will help finding Yoma if Syd/Gark told them information about a woman who settled in the town in these years.*)

Syd: These years, that's a lot...it's gonna be impossible to search.

Clarice: Out of those...the Blind citizen.

Syd: ! Blind...?

Clarice: we're using a special medicine to change the color of our eyes. However, the real color is still silver...it won't change no mattar how long we suppress our yoma energy. I don't think the person has enough amount of pills to keep the colors of eyes' changed for so long...so, if she's in this town then probably she's pretending to be blind in order to be not seen the color of the eye.

Syd: I see...but we aren't stupid either...there's no way a silver-eyed witch can sneak and stay with just pretending to be blind.

Clarice: Eh? Then...

Syd: But there is one... a yound blind woman who settled down here a couple years ago...


Kid: Bye, Sister. See you tomorrow.

Sister: There, don't run. be careful on the way.

Kid: Yes.

(*sorry, skipping again!! the father had thanked Sister Latea for caring orphans, and Sister Latea thanked back for the time she spent as a normal human. She says this day is probably going to be the last.*)

Clarice: The Former number 3 of the organization, Galatea...from the order of the organization, we've come to get your head.

Father: Wha...,Clay...more?

Sister Latea(Galatea): Please back up, Father...looks like the time has come.

(battle cracks, Galatea caught Miata's sword by Bed)

Miata: !

Galatea: If you put this inside...you could sleep comfortably on the soft bed too.

(*Another skip. Galatea apologizes Father, and asks him, for children, let it be just a sigle sister vanishing away. Then Galatea turns back to the two.*)

Galatea: It is such a small Yoma aura compared to another. Are you really a warrior?

Clarice: Don't tell a lie, you shouldn't be able to sense it! You're just telling from my hair color.

Galatea: ! So you're a colored. Now I understand your weakness... seeing that the organizationhas sent someone like you to hunt me down...it seems like the organization is seriously short on power...

Clarice: Wha...don't look chap on us! I tell you, Miata is...

Galatea: Oh I see that too. Just her Yoma aura, it is far above mine.

(*Wind)

Galatea: Since my eyes were squashed...my ability on reading yoma enegy has improved...

Clarice: Wha...

(*Battle Again)

Clarice: Wha, why...why is she able to receive Miata's attacks if she's... ! Oh wait...if she can read our Yoma energy, then had she known that we were coming...?

(Miata releasing yoma Energy)

Clarice: Relesing Yoma Energy! Miata!

Galatea: ch....

Clarice: !!

Galatea: shit...I was intending to have it after getting more closer...
(*the meaning of this line if still unclear. Just a direct translation for now.*)


OOOOoow....(*sound)

Citizen: Oi, what is it...

Syd: Gark!
Gark: yeah. it is same as...the Yoma of seven years ago...

Syd: No...it is something huge and more ominous...

The End


--
translation by Epsilonium


Have fun


sayonara

BrokenWingz
2007-11-02, 17:51
blast! I forgot that we were doing an individual thread for each new chapter... oh well.

Poor Galatea, she would never realize how many people were checking her out unless they were awakened beings or claymores. I would guess her senses beyond her uber youkiness are pretty good now too.

Next big question is who is coming in the next chapter? Is it one of the awakened beings we already know or is it a new character (I hope for a youma/human hybrid)? It doesn't seem like Riful, Isley, or Priscilla's style to scream loud enough for everyone to hear them and most of the other awakened beings we've met are dead. Maybe Dauff, but I really hope not.

How ironic would it be if Raki came back to the city of Rabona as an awakened being to feast? I really hope the noise didn't come from galatea...

And does Galk ever change out of his armor?

Maybe Galatea will release enough yoki for Riful to notice her to make Rabona into rubblena. :heh:

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 17:52
thanks for the translation

Mikke
2007-11-02, 17:58
Whew... Cute chapter. I totally loved the fact that the attention was thwarted back at humans for a change. Rabona, probably being the center of civilization in the claymore world was undergoing social and political changes it seems. It appears that clare has made more and more fans without even realizing it... lol...
Father vincent made claymores legal in the city? Humans rock dude! Now they can all party together...

Anyways... Galatea sure is the smartest of all deserter claymores me thinks...
ORG's are smarter though, now that they've got themselves a hound like miata who can sniff out a snowflake miles and miles away; any tard who's dumb enough to mark his territory in the ORG's backyard has a thing coming.
I sure hope galatea kept to her aesthetical and hygenial principles and didn't follow that example.

Not that it matters tho, she blew her cover anyway... :rolleyes:

Negativedark
2007-11-02, 18:00
Well After reading the script, I'm not sure what to think about Galetea's eyes. Rubel made a comment that made it sound as though Raefeala should have been able to regenerate and eye, and she was an offensive type. Also the way Galetea says it makes it sound as though her eyes were lost in a way that was not self inflicted. That said, I think someone will die, but not Galetea. I think that Maita will kill a human trying to kill Galetea.

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 18:01
I think Galetea cut her eyes out on purpose

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 18:07
So Galatea's Yoki reading has indeed improved immensly.She can use her skill in a similiar fashion as Teresa and Clare....but whats with the Eye's having been squashed..who would do that to my Lady:frustrated:

Wonder what that Galatea had planned on doing to Miata and what that Yoma/AB is doing there...

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 18:11
It doesn't make sense if someone else squashed it since she could of just regenerate it back.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 18:13
It doesn't make sense if someone else squashed it since she could of just regenerate it back.
Regardless of who did it, she could regenerate her eyes. If it wasn't for training/cover-up purposes....
than something would be really fishy here:eyebrow:

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 18:13
It doesn't make sense if someone else squashed it since she could of just regenerate it back.

yea she just had to cut her on eyes

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 18:17
Somethings fishy here:eyebrow:

Lets blame raki :uhoh:

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 18:19
Lets blame raki :uhoh:

Raki is the scapegoat for anything that goes wrong in the Claymore world...c'mon the dude is playing hanky-panky with Priscilla (who, in her Awakened form reminds me a little of that She-monster from Species...without the out-of-the-gelee-bath look)

For fighting a potential number #1 with Yoki level S i my Lady is doing a pretty fine job so far.She certainly has an ace up her sleeve...some sorta technique she wanted to use on Miata.Forcing her to awaken, even if possible for her, is not something Galatea would do in the middle of a town...

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 18:28
yea i say they leave our Galatea alone:sad:

airguitar316
2007-11-02, 18:43
Lets blame raki :uhoh:

LOL I wish it were that easy friend. Unfortunately, we have to blame the author for giving us shock value for waiting 5 months. What a waste. She's one BLIND hottie, instead of being THE hottie. She's the one holding her own against Miata if you haven't noticed so this time I'm rooting for Ms. Claymore. Blind justice rocks!

irvinethearcher
2007-11-02, 18:52
Your beauty queen will regenerate her eyes soon enough, have faith in her:cool:

Mikke
2007-11-02, 18:54
Well damn! dude, battling using her reading is one thing, but what about the rest of the time?

In order for her to properly orientate herself she needs her basic senses! Bah, she must think to herself in her free time when she's either washing her clothes or taking a walk and steppin on dog poo: "Damn, Why doesn't dog poo emit youki?!"

Seska
2007-11-02, 18:58
Hi, i'm new and have a Question: Why ist galatea blind? She a defensive type and are defensive types not capable of regenerating things like eyes, arms... ?
My theorie on this is that galatea somehow not intended to regenerate so far, but why? Some kind of carnouflage for her? Or some method to train her sensing abillities?
If that's true than she can surely not regenerate during this battle and have to fight blind.

To regen her New Eyes, she need to use Youki. But, here is the same play as with irene in hiding. She cannot use her Youki power for regen her new Eyes, without leave her hideout...

And even if Claymores suppress her Youki so well, for a Human. Her "Silver eyes Witch" is strange... She hides her Silver Hair, and "erase" her Claymore eyes, to hide perfect under Humans...

But, it can be an "side effect" after some battle.. perhaps, the battle where she escaped the org?

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 19:02
For some reason this Chapter reminds me of Warrior Nun Areala :eyebrow:

Nevertheless,Areala is a lolli against Galatea's lady-style sexyness

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc174/BaalChaamon/GALATEASEXYOVERKILL.jpg


Damn those legs!!!The ripping her dress part is TEH sexiest move in the Claymoreverse...hands down!

Xellos-_^
2007-11-02, 19:11
To regen her New Eyes, she need to use Youki. But, here is the same play as with irene in hiding. She cannot use her Youki power for regen her new Eyes, without leave her hideout...

And even if Claymores suppress her Youki so well, for a Human. Her "Silver eyes Witch" is strange... She hides her Silver Hair, and "erase" her Claymore eyes, to hide perfect under Humans...

But, it can be an "side effect" after some battle.. perhaps, the battle where she escaped the org?


I think that is a moot point right now with Miata finding her without using youki. No point in hiding her Youki when the org already founf her.

Seska
2007-11-02, 19:12
Well, it can be a proof for, that our Story writer has found the way into here? :) or other fan fictions forums...

What was our nickname for Galatea? Miss Claymore :)

Well, i gave Rafaela the nickname Miss Ice Claymore. because she beats even Mr.Spock from Enterprise when it comes to emotions...

Oh and one more thing,

Did you notice? Galatea has still her Youki manipulate Skill? She used it, on Clarices attack, where she was still without sword to block it... We see an "Picture" where the sword goes offtrack, and Clarice wonders why :)
And i think, Miata has not used her Youki powers so far... Only Galatea used so far, to push her back outside. After she holds her sword... She used her Youki manipulate skill, so long to avoid her attacks... :)

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 19:30
Alright in honor of Galatea, all sigs/avatars of her shall no longer be able to have eyeballs

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5386/galateaza5.gif

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 19:34
I can easily see Galatea trying to take control of the Orgz at some point. She has the brains it seems. Her and Miria working together on a plan would be scary.

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 19:38
Alright in honor of Galatea, all sigs/avatars of her shall no longer be able to have eyeballs

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5386/galateaza5.gif

OMG LMAO:heh:

Fate_Archer
2007-11-02, 19:39
To regen her New Eyes, she need to use Youki. But, here is the same play as with irene in hiding. She cannot use her Youki power for regen her new Eyes, without leave her hideout...

Good point.

But I think that we have two other reasons for Galatea's blind condition:

1) Someone or something has blinded her. As a defensive warrior (Well, don't really need to be defensive for doing that, Raphaela could anyway), she could regenerate her eyes, but she noticed that her sensing was greatly increased, so she kept with it.

2) She did it intentionally on herself. Knowing that her senses would greatly increase, she blinded herself.

Regardless of the reason, I think she still can regenerate her eyes.
The only reason for keeping with this condition is the improvement generated by it, I think.

From the way Rubel spoke, Raphaela could regenerate her wounded eye anytime she wanted.
So, I can't see why Galatea who is a defensive type, can't regenerate her eyes as well if she wanted.

Maybe she realized that there are better things in life than Beauty, like the life itself.
It's way worth keeping alive and losing something than just dying like a pretty person. But who is saying that she isn't beautiful anymore?
If that's really the reason for Galatea's blind condition, than she is even more beautiful than I thought.
Galatea is so captivating... :)

But still, there is something worrying me.

If that script is right, Galatea said that Miata's energy is far above hers.
Well, it was something expected, and Galatea is doing a great job against her up till now, though the battle only began, but fighting an enemy that has more raw power than you is always a menace.

Even though Galatea's yoki output is the greatest, Miata's output will be something very scary as well. Maybe even more scary.
But like I said many times, I believe in Galatea's abilities. She will find a way to handle it.

But preoccupation is natural in a situation like that. :(

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 19:44
You too buddy

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/3650/galatea3ap4py2.jpg

Seska
2007-11-02, 19:47
If that script is right, Galatea said that Miata's energy is far above hers.
Well, it was something expected, and Galatea is doing a great job against her up till now, though the battle only began, but fighting an enemy that has more raw power than you is always a menace.


Where have i saw it.... Hmmm... Dunno. It is a long time in the past. it must be the reason for Clare to be a Claymore... okok... It reminds me on Teresa and Prissi...

Hope it will not hurt to much... one has to pass away... and the little one is not even 10% youki... a 2nd born teresa?

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 19:50
Good point.

But I think that we have two other reasons for Galatea's blind condition:

1) Someone or something has blinded her. As a defensive warrior (Well, don't really need to be defensive for doing that, Raphaela could anyway), she could regenerate her eyes, but she noticed that her sensing was greatly increased, so she kept with it.

2) She did it intentionally on herself. Knowing that her senses would greatly increase, she blinded herself.

Regardless of the reason, I think she still can regenerate her eyes.
The only reason for keeping with this condition is the improvement generated by it, I think.

From the way Rubel spoke, Raphaela could regenerate her wounded eye anytime she wanted.
So, I can't see why Galatea who is a defensive type, can't regenerate her eyes as well if she wanted.

Yep,me thinks the same.

Maybe she realized that there are better things in life than Beauty, like the life itself.
It's way worth keeping alive and losing something than just dying like a pretty person. But who is saying that she isn't beautiful anymore?
If that's really the reason for Galatea's blind condition, than she is even more beautiful than I thought.

Well she definetly given up on her old concept of beauty but she is still stunningly gorgeous to me.:eyespin:
Galatea is so captivating... :)
You can say that again my friend.

But still, there is something worrying me.

If that script is right, Galatea said that Miata's energy is far above hers.
Well, it was something expected, and Galatea is doing a great job against her up till now, though the battle only began, but fighting an enemy that has more raw power than you is always a menace.

Even though Galatea's yoki output is the greatest, Miata's output will be something very scary as well. Maybe even more scary.
But like I said many times, I believe in Galatea's abilities. She will find a way to handle it.

But preoccupation is natural in a situation like that. :(

No doubt, Miata is way ahead of Galatea in Yoki output, heck if she is a number one to be I would place her Yoki level at A+ (similiar to Priscillas when she was employed) or even S (judging from Alicia's & Beth's level). But i think Galatea has a trick she wanted to use against Miata ... curious to know what it is.

chibamonster
2007-11-02, 19:55
No one would ask any demanding questions of a blind nun, especially when she loves the little children so much. I think it is a fine disguise. But wonder if Galatea didn't do it to herself, mostly because of the scarring. Then again she may have just been really gung ho about it and slashed her own face up. Also Clarice guessed she was blind, which means either it is the obvious choice for claymores who dissent or the organization knew she was blinded beforehand.

The bigger question for me is why does Galatea want to be found by Miata? If she knew they were coming, then she could have kept moving and running. She must have had a reason for letting herself be discovered. More importantly, what is coming and does Galatea need help to fend against it? It really could be Riful coming for Galatea, but it really doesn't seem like Riful's style to shout and scream to get everyones attention. It seems like a male awakened being, they seem to shout much more than females. Rigard loved screaming.

It is interesting to me how Clarice, although much weaker than other Claymores, is still very confident. She even attacked Galatea who she knew was only behind Alicia and Beth. It seems she hasn't realized how weak she actually is. She seems more carefree than Clare, who was deadly serious all the time, even though she was easily over powered many times.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 19:58
No one would ask any demanding questions of a blind nun, especially when she loves the little children so much. I think it is a fine disguise. But wonder if Galatea didn't do it to herself, mostly because of the scarring. Then again she may have just been really gung ho about it and slashed her own face up. Also Clarice guessed she was blind, which means either it is the obvious choice for claymores who dissent or the organization knew she was blinded beforehand.

The bigger question for me is why does Galatea want to be found by Miata? If she knew they were coming, then she could have kept moving and running. She must have had a reason for letting herself be discovered. More importantly, what is coming and does Galatea need help to fend against it? It really could be Riful coming for Galatea, but it really doesn't seem like Riful's style to shout and scream to get everyones attention. It seems like a male awakened being, they seem to shout much more than females. Rigard loved screaming.

It is interesting to me how Clarice, although much weaker than other Claymores, is still very confident. She even attacked Galatea who she knew was only behind Alicia and Beth. It seems she hasn't realized how weak she actually is. She seems more carefree than Clare, who was deadly serious all the time, even though she was easily over powered many times.

Again Chibamonster never fails to deliver ;) good job.

I was laughing at Clarices attempts to slash Galatea and talking back at her. Think the time she spend with Miata has made her cocky:

"My boobs can tame the biggest freak in the Org!WHO do you think YOU are?!":eyebrow:

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 19:59
Miata is Galatea's DAUGHTER MUHAHAHAHAH and Galatea knows it and is trying to lure her over to the cool side.

azurie
2007-11-02, 20:00
ROFL i'm sorry but that one got me almost to peein stage lol ok let me calm down so i can think of a decent reply if at all possible lol. . . . . . ok i failed but you got a point it would seem that she feels that with such backup as Miata she is getting a little more self asured than her skills allow.

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 20:02
Also Clarice guessed she was blind, which means either it is the obvious choice for claymores who dissent or the organization knew she was blinded beforehand.


Clarice: Out of those...the Blind citizen.

Syd: ! Blind...?

Clarice: we're using a special medicine to change the color of our eyes. However, the real color is still silver...it won't change no matter how long we suppress our yoma energy. I don't think the person has enough amount of pills to keep the colors of eyes' changed for so long...so, if she's in this town then probably she's pretending to be blind in order to be not seen the color of the eye.


well if this dialogue is true then they are just guessing shes blind since they are searching in a town and the only way for Galatea to hide herself is to play blind.
So it was all deduction on Clarices part.

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-02, 20:03
In all honesty I like Galatea alot more now then I did before, something about her change in character pleases me.

I think the reason she did not run away is probably because she is tired of running, she has been on the run/hiding for 7 years, and someone can simply want to make a stand after such a long time.

I honestly think somehow Galatea's relationship with the children will end up saving her life, maybe she will strike a sympathetic cord in Miata?

If an AB is truly responsible for the noise at the end of the chapter, I can see Galatea/Miata teaming up to fight it, and I don't think Clarice would argue the point.

As for Clarice, I think Clarice is just trying to make up for what she lacks, she is probably tired of feeling useless and wants to do anything to prove her worth.

She is considered a failure by everyone in the Organization after all.

Maybe Dauf has come to collect Galatea? Could explain his absence from Riful's side earlier. :p

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 20:05
As for Clarice, I think Clarice is just trying to make up for what she lacks, she is probably tired of feeling useless and wants to do anything to prove her worth.

She is considered a failure by everyone in the Organization after all.


CLARICE IS THE NEW RAKI:uhoh:

azurie
2007-11-02, 20:07
but Clarice doesn't WHINE!!! she moans specially when Miata nibbles ;P where Raki would whine specially if Miata nibbles lol

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 20:09
Why is Miata's face always covered!!It's doing my head in..*brainfreeze*
And you can see how young she is in this battle.She somehow reminds me of Claymore Riful size and power wise

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 20:11
but Clarice doesn't WHINE!!!

I think all her whining is going to come up in a monologue chapter dedicated to her where she sits under a stary summer sky and cries and whines to her heart's content.

she moans specially when Miata nibbles ;P
Lets all nibble on on her:mad:

Seska
2007-11-02, 20:12
Nope, Clarice is Miss Brain Claymore :) (Well, i know. Yeah. My nicknames sucks :))

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 20:13
Nope, Clarice is Miss Brain Claymore :) (Well, i know. Yeah. My nicknames sucks :))
:confused:

cf18
2007-11-02, 20:14
Well my prediction was not too far away...
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?p=1174314#post1174314

She got to spend some quality time with some children like a mother, but I didn't expect the writer to went this direction to hide her among human.

I agree that she didn't leave because she senses a strong yoma or awaken being in town which she can't handle alone.

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 20:18
Oh wow. Duff doesn't seem like a roarer either honestly. It may be someone else. EEEKKK what if Raphaela awakened, I mean her reason for living was to put her sister to rest. :( Wow that would suck.

azurie
2007-11-02, 20:20
Nope, Clarice is Miss Brain Claymore :) (Well, i know. Yeah. My nicknames sucks :))

BRAIN!!! i think you looked at the wrong body part friend ;P that wasn't her brain it was her boob ;P she's Miss Booby Claymore lol or Miss Mommy Claymore one take your pick lol or let Miata decide since Clarice is HER mommy lol

Bikerider
2007-11-02, 20:20
Brainy Claymore ??? hmmm....

I guess we have to find Papa Claymore and Jokey Claymore and Baker Claymore and Lazy Claymore and all the other Claymores from the little mushroom house village hidden deep in the forest of no name.

Seska
2007-11-02, 20:22
Mmm, perhaps this "Youma" sound at the end of the chapter, can be Miata in "Youki wolf kid form" :) Did not someone mention it, that Miata is nearly an Wolf child? Enhanced Senses in all kind, like an Wolf. Perhaps releasing Youki is some pleasure for her. And she moan in her own way :)



p.s. hehe, i love it. Seems this section is alive again for some days :) until the flame of the chapter lies down for an month again... :)

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 20:27
Just need a couple of extra scenes to kill this section for good. It will then return to its DBZ stage where we just compare power levels all day.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 20:35
In all honesty I like Galatea alot more now then I did before, something about her change in character pleases me.

I think the reason she did not run away is probably because she is tired of running, she has been on the run/hiding for 7 years, and someone can simply want to make a stand after such a long time.

Heck, i'd be frustrated after 2 days of being chased. Maybe she knew that there's no escape as she could have sensed Yoma and AB's Yoki dissappearing in the within her Yoki sensor range. The fact that Miata found her despite her Yoki suppression should have told her that running from her is pointless.

I honestly think somehow Galatea's relationship with the children will end up saving her life, maybe she will strike a sympathetic cord in Miata?
Two scenarios come to mind after the kids get caught up in battle:
1.Miata accidently kills/injures one and goes crazy
2.One of the kids addresses Galatea as Mommy causing Miata to brainfreeze(literally).

If an AB is truly responsible for the noise at the end of the chapter, I can see Galatea/Miata teaming up to fight it, and I don't think Clarice would argue the point.
Somehow Clarice and Miata remind me of Ash&Pikachu.Best friends FOREVER!

Maybe Dauf has come to collect Galatea? Could explain his absence from Riful's side earlier. :p

Dauff is definetely cheating on Riful, maybe he found a new lollli awakened being. Why else would she be so frustrated:heh:

azurie
2007-11-02, 20:35
hehe well several of us have mentioned Miata's rather feral nature and that it's rather possible that she could awaken due to it. i wouldn't put it past her to loose her calm easiely fighting against Galatea knowing the fighting style Galatea uses. However being that Miata is an instictual creature over intellictual one it could be noted that she wouldn't likely fall for most of the "tricks" that Galatea would be prone to use except for her normal yoki based one which as has already been stated has been tried and been forcefully pushed passed not that Galatea won't use them as she gets the chance to mind ya but they aren't realible at this time anymore. Once i get a chance to read a translation of it i'll be better able to post my views on the subject as it is now i'm only able to post my views on the views of others and past chapters.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 20:40
However being that Miata is an instictual creature over intellictual one it could be noted that she wouldn't likely fall for most of the "tricks" that Galatea would be prone to use .

The Org. has switched to create Claymore's with mental stats of D and lower.Claymore vegetable so to speak:Alicia, Beth, Miata...erm Rachel lol
Don't think and talk, just shutup and do your work. If there was a Claymore Trade Union...my, my.

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 20:41
Oh great now you got me thinking.

Elena = Weepy
Irene = Stumpy
Alicia = Buggy
Teresa = Spooky
Jean = Twisty
Flora = Zipper
Udine = Muscles
Clare = Crabenstien
Miata = Ringu
Clarice = Mommybags
Galatea = Legs
Ophelia = Laffy Taffy
Raphael = Patches
Beth = Stiff
Rigardo = Mittens
Isley = Ed
Raki = .....

Okay lame LOL

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 20:50
Galatea's Claymore was hidden in her bed btw.

wnmnkh
2007-11-02, 20:52
Already reached +140 replies? wow, fast.

azurie
2007-11-02, 21:00
and did that in how many seconds? lol

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 21:03
Feels like a holiday :)

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 21:25
Post #150

I want to see more nun-action...quick!

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 21:33
:sad: wonder if Miss Claymore gonna live

azurie
2007-11-02, 21:36
of course she will live pfft she's to cool to die so soon after her return geesh not even the author would be that cold to us the fans of so obvious of a fan favorite now would he? not if he wants to keep his mail box empty of hate mail. and you know Galatea fanboys would send tons of hate mail if he killed her off this soon after reintroducing her.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 21:50
of course she will live pfft she's to cool to die so soon after her return geesh not even the author would be that cold to us the fans of so obvious of a fan favorite now would he? not if he wants to keep his mail box empty of hate mail. and you know Galatea fanboys would send tons of hate mail if he killed her off this soon after reintroducing her.

I would deliver mine personally with an arsenal of extra sharp pencils in my pocket to poke Yagi-kun to death with:mad:

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 21:50
Well Teresa was a fan favorite too. However, I think we all knew she was gonna die.

Negativedark
2007-11-02, 21:54
Well let the speculation begin about the roar. Oh wait it already did. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Maita. The org is doing some wierd stuff, so maybe she has a "safe" awakened form". I woulnd't be surprised if she ends up killing a human while trying to kill Galetea. If Dauf does show up, He's probably going to die, especially if Galetea and Maitia team up.

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 21:58
Shes gonna kill a human and awaken and its gonna be a big wolf like thing.

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 22:00
Well lets not hope she lives
and if she does die lets hope its not by a cheap shot like teresa's death

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 22:03
I don't mind if Galatea dies. Just gotta go out with a bang instead of "Florarized"

azurie
2007-11-02, 22:05
Teresa's death was a requirment for the background of Clare despite her popularity it was required or else there wouldn't be a Clare in claymore form.

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 22:12
I don't mind if Galatea dies. Just gotta go out with a bang instead of "Florarized"

Flora's Death was very painful :upset:

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 22:15
No it was painless cuz it was over in a second.

azurie
2007-11-02, 22:17
well painless for her to be the one recieving not for those watching it happen to her . . . . sighs as he remembers the sudden loose of poor lovely Flora.

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 22:17
Yeah a Floride death would suck. I think Galatea will survive this. I'd even say she'd join the 7 However the only way I could see her doing that is if they were equal. She doesn't seem the type to take orders from Clare or Miria. Aww perhaps Miria dies and Galatea takes her place. :(

Speaking of the 7. I want to see what new trick Deneve has up her sleeve. She has the twin sword thing going on, but she needs something more other than just being the worlds best meat shield. Unless of course she is insanely good at it. I'm talking being ripped in half and growing new legs before she hits the ground good.

KiNA
2007-11-02, 22:18
What if that big thingie coming is just some cannon fodder.. or a homing beacon to the ghost 7 (if they are nearby) .. Clare definitely wanna come and rescue the guy that have her first kiss :p but end up finding Galatea's instead.

Clarice could recognized them being the one that save her earlier and ordered Miata to pull back ^.^

azurie
2007-11-02, 22:20
psst i gave her her first kiss raki was 2nd ;P just didn't get to see my kiss was to hot for the manga or the anime muahaha . . . heheh well i'll actually speculate on this WHEN i get a chance to read a translation till then i'll not give my opinion on what i think it could be since i'm clueless atm.

Tevourious
2007-11-02, 22:36
Heeey I just re read, the slayers arc. Miria says she learned the orgz biggest secret but never did say what it way. :P I wonder just what it was. I mean I guess is could be the existence of the Abyssals and where they came from, but I think its more than that. Perhaps it was the true nature of Beth and Alicia. Thoughts?

Sassarai
2007-11-02, 22:36
Yeah a Floride death would suck. I think Galatea will survive this. I'd even say she'd join the 7 However the only way I could see her doing that is if they were equal. She doesn't seem the type to take orders from Clare or Miria. Aww perhaps Miria dies and Galatea takes her place. :(

Speaking of the 7. I want to see what new trick Deneve has up her sleeve. She has the twin sword thing going on, but she needs something more other than just being the worlds best meat shield. Unless of course she is insanely good at it. I'm talking being ripped in half and growing new legs before she hits the ground good.

Well she didnt get killed by 1 hit or under 1 sec so she cant get florided :D

If Garatea does join the magnificient 7, I don't see her staying for a long time. Maybe just help out with a battle here and there. Shes like one of those strong RPG chars that joins your party only during special events then leaves :(

Doubt deno has any new attacks. Shes just gonna be like undine and try to overpower ppl.



Heeey I just re read, the slayers arc. Miria says she learned the orgz biggest secret but never did say what it way. :P I wonder just what it was. I mean I guess is could be the existence of the Abyssals and where they came from, but I think its more than that. Perhaps it was the true nature of Beth and Alicia. Thoughts?

Maybe she just knows about the creation of alicia and beth. Since thats the first thing out of her mouth when she asked that new no2(I believe) If Alicia was created.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-02, 22:42
It's 3:40 am and I've just looked through the last chapter again:heh:
I just had a random thought before I pass out: What if the roar is actually Galatea doing a "controlled"awakening...i really should be going to sleep.

romulusx5
2007-11-02, 22:46
Maybe she just knows about the creation of alicia and beth. Since thats the first thing out of her mouth when she asked that new no2(I believe) If Alicia was created.

i have believed that since day 1 that alicia and beth is the biggest secret of the org...as per Miria's angle. but to me, it's gotta be the yoma connection and the org.

i also think Galatea will survive the fight but it is action filled for the return of Claymore. miata got the best of Gal in the end, and is setting up a possibility for someone awakening? i'm just scratching my head on what Clarice's use is in this series. lol

KiNA
2007-11-02, 23:06
^ Clarice = female Raki :D

King Lycan
2007-11-02, 23:10
u know wat ur right
and if she gets Miss Claymore dead she would be the second hated claymore character

azurie
2007-11-02, 23:15
i would beg to differ there i think she would beat Raki out BIG time if she gets Galatea killed oh how she would be hated. EVEN I would be in the i hate Clarice club and i like her already due to the mommy factor hmmm how i wish i was Miata lol

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-03, 00:16
I think the fight is destined to be interrupted, Miata might accidently kill a human, or a AB will show up. Either way Miata and Clarice will probably end up being seperated from the Organization I think.

Miata awakening would be way too predictable, and this chapter alone should prove to us that Yagi is anything but ;)

I don't see Galatea dying so soon after being reintroduced though, I am still banking on either the 7 Ghosts coming to the rescue, or something else interfering with the fight.

If the tranlsation is accurate, Galatea seems to realize that she is at a disadvantge, and I think the last line means that Galatea was trying to find a hole in Miata's defense, but failed because of Miata blowing through her manipulation ability.

King Lycan
2007-11-03, 00:21
Maybe irene might stop the fight :heh:

Stifler
2007-11-03, 00:27
Maybe irene might stop the fight :heh:

lol She just might. If she's still alive, which she might be. After all, we should never count someone dead unless we see the corpse, and again not even then.

azurie
2007-11-03, 00:33
lol She just might. If she's still alive, which she might be. After all, we should never count someone dead unless we see the corpse, and again not even then.

see the corpse in many peices you mean THEN we can count them as DEAD!! and not till then.

KiNA
2007-11-03, 00:37
Or just the head .. :(

azurie
2007-11-03, 00:39
so true but still must SEE it seperate from the body and for Irene we have not seen thus so IMHO she's still alive till i see the body!!!! and that is all i gotta say about that (quote forrest gump!! hehe)

meguriatte
2007-11-03, 01:03
If the tranlsation is accurate, Galatea seems to realize that she is at a disadvantge, and I think the last line means that Galatea was trying to find a hole in Miata's defense, but failed because of Miata blowing through her manipulation ability.


もう少し奴に近づいてからと思ってたんだが。。。

my rough translation: I thought if only I could get a little closer...

Just based on the limited information from this chapter, I think it can be interpreted at least that Galatea was trying to do something by getting a little closer to Miata. She thought this could be achieved if she was closer, but that was not the case as we saw. So it is possible that she was referring to that failed yoki manipulation attempt with Miata.


Aside from the ambiguity of that line, it's pretty exciting to see a new Claymore chapter. After reading burning through the manga in 2 days (73 chapters and subsequently extra chapters), I kind of regret not waiting longer. My friend made the recommendation fyi. Well, I suppose the grass is always greener on the other side. "If only I waited longer, I would've been able to read 82 chapters vs 73 in two days." lol :eyespin:

Gooral
2007-11-03, 01:11
Good point.

But I think that we have two other reasons for Galatea's blind condition:

1) Someone or something has blinded her. As a defensive warrior (Well, don't really need to be defensive for doing that, Raphaela could anyway), she could regenerate her eyes, but she noticed that her sensing was greatly increased, so she kept with it.

2) She did it intentionally on herself. Knowing that her senses would greatly increase, she blinded herself.

Regardless of the reason, I think she still can regenerate her eyes.
The only reason for keeping with this condition is the improvement generated by it, I think.


Option #1 is highly unlikely. If someone was good enough to poke Galatea's eyes then he/she would propably finish her off. Why would someone blind her and not kill her ? Also how powerful would have that person be to do that ? AO class for sure. The only person who could have motive (I can think off) would be Riful. She wanted only Galatea's greatest and unique trait - youki manipulation/sensing. She didn't need her to be healthy. In fact maybe she expected that when blind Galatea would sharpen her ability and be more useful later.
Option #2 is what I think. Rabona was the best hideout for Galatea, not only she could lay low, but also she was able to enjoy her life. She blinded herself, thanks to that not Miata would be underestimated but Galatea. I think that Clarice and Miata will give up from killing her, don't know maybe the kids will plead for her, or Galk and Sid will persuade them to stop her.
If Clarice was the one who got the idea Galatea has to pretend to be blind then she isn't that stupid, so there is chance she will understand her mistake and withdraw or join Galatea. If there is AB in the town then there is a big chance Galatea will save Clarice from death and out from gratitude they would go back to the org without completing mission. Or Miata might just accidentally rip Galatea's dress, her boobs would be shown and Miata would throw Clarice away and go with Galatea ;P.

Mentar
2007-11-03, 01:12
Am I the only one who feels like waking from a bad dream?

Beginning with ep20+ of the anime, and the fairly lightweight "extra stories", I had some doubts creeping into my heart. Almost all of the big strengths of Claymore - the excellent pacing, the intense and condensed storylines without pointless drawing-out lengths, the unpredictability, the "pulling no punches" guts to do painful things to the readers which matter - all of them seemed to fade away from Claymore.

And then c74, a full return to former glory.

Enough shocking (but in hindsight, logical) surprises, the return of characters with actual _personality_, reunions with old companions, and even a mild trace of fanservice - what's not to love? The old "aargh, I want to read the next chapter NOW" urge is back in full force. Welcome back, true Claymore!

I don't see Galatea at the end of her road, naah. Fact aside that with her skills, intelligence and especially experience, she's probably among the hardest-to-kill characters ever, she's got a _function_ to fulfill. If Claymore were to be seen as a fantasy role playing game, she'd be the wizard character. The one to do the extraordinary things, the "impossible" ones which allow the "hero" character(s) to win against insurmountable odds. If she is to reach the end of her path, it will be something amazing and glorious, I'm sure. Not being ripped apart by a half-human doberman.

Claris remains a very interesting character. I don't understand how people can criticise her for holding her own and attacking Galatea - that's what she was sent out for! Also, we've seen from former chapters that she's very much aware that she won't be a trace of a match for her, but she has Miata around. From her point of view, her mission is quite justified, and she's trying to execute it to the best of her abilities. In a way she very much resembles Clare of the past: Inexperienced, weak and trying to find her way in a new world. What happens to Miata will shape her future, and right now I don't dare to foresee if she's going to end up as friend or foe.

What an amazing resurrection of a series. GIMME THE NEXT CHAPTER!

stormy001_M1A2
2007-11-03, 01:17
Ah, the supermodel ex no 3 still has looks and body but minus the eyes. Either she did it on purpose or she has decided to sharpen her senses by being blind, using her sixth sense to a higher degree.

Or...

To avoid detection by Rabonna guards, she took out her silver eyes so she can be the blind nun, operating quietly amongst the people.

This is what I think so far.

Mentar:

What anime? I don't know there is an anime on Claymore. Hehehe

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-03, 01:19
I agree with Mentar, my already great passion for Claymore is burning bright once more.

As for what caused Galatea to go blind, I suppose it is possible she fought someone, got blinded, and managed to kill her opponent at the same time. It happens alot in anime. ;)

Gooral
2007-11-03, 01:25
(...)
As for what caused Galatea to go blind, I suppose it is possible she fought someone, got blinded, and managed to kill her opponent at the same time. It happens alot in anime. ;)
You really think so Fenrir ? If someone was good enough to poke Galatea's eyes then he/she would propably finish her off. Why would someone blind her and not kill her ? Also how powerful would have that person be to do that ? Being fast enough to penetrate through her defence and skillful enough to strike gently causing only eye damage. AO class for sure. The only person who could have motive (I can think off) would be Riful. She wanted only Galatea's greatest and unique trait - youki manipulation/sensing. She didn't need her to be healthy. In fact maybe she expected that when blind Galatea would sharpen her ability and be more useful later.

zato_1one
2007-11-03, 01:32
Claymore series from Yagi-sensei is always glory! Others are nothing but just a fanfiction! Don't even want to mention it! :frustrated:

Somehow, I start to feel worry about Galatea. Hope she's alright (at least for now).

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-03, 01:35
You really think so Fenrir ? If someone was good enough to poke Galatea's eyes then he/she would propably finish her off. Why would someone blind her and not kill her ? Also how powerful would have that person be to do that ? Being fast enough to penetrate through her defence and skillful enough to strike gently causing only eye damage. AO class for sure. The only person who could have motive (I can think off) would be Riful. She wanted only Galatea's greatest and unique trait - youki manipulation/sensing. She didn't need her to be healthy. In fact maybe she expected that when blind Galatea would sharpen her ability and be more useful later.

As I said, they fought, and Galatea killed her opponent, who was strong enough to injure her, you know, final-blow style, where Galatea kills her opponent, but is injured in the process.

I don't think it was Riful, otherwise I doubt Galatea would have gotten away.

Gooral
2007-11-03, 01:39
As I said, they fought, and Galatea killed her opponent, who was strong enough to injure her, you know, final-blow style, where Galatea kills her opponent, but is injured in the process.

I don't think it was Riful, otherwise I Galatea would not have gotten away.
Then it was one lucky strike for both of them. Galatea's that only her eyes were blinded and her adversary's that he managed to do such clean cut and took down both eyes with one strike.

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-03, 01:43
Then it was one lucky strike for both of them. Galatea's that only her eyes were blinded and her adversary's that he managed to do such clean cut and took down both eyes with one strike.

Common occurance in Anime/Manga stories :p

That cut does not look to "clean" either.

Gooral
2007-11-03, 01:44
It was clean until infection got in and she had to dissinfect it with acid ;).

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-03, 01:45
It was clean until infection got in and she had to dissinfect it with acid ;).

:eyebrow: Righttttttttt

redmeat
2007-11-03, 02:09
Blind kung fu master Galatea has become :p I've seen this a lot in kung fu films: blind guy/girl kicks ass even though he/she's blind because having blind eyes improves fighting :eyespin:

I see a trend here: There's single-arm amputation, then there's single-eye gouging, followed by double-arm amputation, and now complete blindness. What's next? Probably single followed by double leg amputation and then complete amputation of all limbs. After that there will be warts and all other skin maladies. Then finally there will be a flying claymore's head powered by a yoki engine.

stormy001_M1A2
2007-11-03, 03:38
I wonder how many people here will cry if our Blind Claymore dies in next chapter?

Anyone also noticed that this is first time we see Miata's face without her hair cover her face? I wonder.

chibamonster
2007-11-03, 03:48
I just thought of something; where did Galatea get a nuns outfit? I doubt she stole it (sorry I need this! YOINK! *run run run* *naked nun cries*) Oh ok, she probably wandered into town, was accepted by the townspeople and joined a convent. I'm not sure exactly what their religion teaches, but the idea of Galatea teaching little children about pilgrimages and baptism (like when Clare appeared to father vincent) is a little humorous for me.

Also the idea of Galatea dealing with kids throwing fits. And wetting their pants. Little kids wet their pants and Galatea would have to deal with that. Galatea teaching little kids how to pray... all sorts of interesting ideas of what happened the last 7 years. How did she explain her scars to the little children? "Oh, I did this to myself to hide that I am a half demon. But don't worry, I can still sense evil creatures very well." What does the religion teach about youma and how does it tie into the story of the Goddesses of Love angel statue? What is battle hardened Galatea's oppinion of it all? She could see into the hearts of her fellow claymores. What perspective has that given her for this dark Claymore world?

Also, and maybe even more interestingly, has Galatea truly become a believer? or was it just to escape the organization? or to be a mother figure and live a life that was taken from her by the organization? Even Clare in a dark hopeless moment of desperation prayed to the God of Rabona to protect Raki until they could met again. That was always a really human point in Clare's development for me; reaching out for anything at all that could sustain her hope, even if it was a religion that's capitol city deemed her unfit to enter its sanctuary. I'm glad things changed there, if only a little bit, thanks to Father Vincent.

I think Galatea is in Rabona because she wants to be around humans, treated like a human, taking care of children because if she just wanted to escape, she could go hide in the mountains somewhere and run when trouble came. She may have even come from a family that were devout believers. Maybe a part of her still believes. I'm looking forward to seeing more of her past. So far, the more I find out about Galatea, the more I like her.

Now my next major concern is whatever is coming to attack Rabona. I think they mentioned that people had been disappearing recently (not sure on that one), but if it were a normal Youma Galatea would have already taken care of it. If it were most awakened beings Galatea would already have taken care of it. I think whatever appeared is something new, unless it is just Miata or Galatea's awakened form (but that would have to have a transformation sequence.) Whatever it is, the story is set up to have Miata and Galatea there to battle it meaning that just by circumstance it will be one tough cookie.

I also agree with whoever said the children might actually save Galatea from Miata. How could Miata kill someone who was a mother figure to another child? Maybe then we will finally find out what happened to poor Miata's mother. Whatever it was, I don't think it was pretty, and I guess it was when Miata was very young because her mind seems frozen at a stage where she can only cry for her mother.

For some reason I have an image of Miata being taken away from her mother (maybe even with the mothers permission in exchange for money) at a very young age and claymorized at a far earlier age than normal, putting her into a nightmare of pain throughout her childhood. I have no support for that, but it is what I imagine when I think of Miata's mother complex. For some reason, I don't think she is in Priscilla's boat where her family was murdered in front of her. I think that she really just wants to be in contact with her mother who was taken from her.

I didn't think this post would be so long. Congratulations on making it to the end of my ranting.

stormy001_M1A2
2007-11-03, 03:54
It is useless dude, people now is gushing at Galatea's brief fanservice. Hehehehe.

Gooral
2007-11-03, 03:55
where did Galatea get a nuns outfit?
I wonder how did she manage to enter the city with a sword ? Where did she hide it ? I don't think she could sneak in, we saw that guards in Rabona aren't slacking off.

stormy001_M1A2
2007-11-03, 04:01
A city has many sneak points; sewers, rooftops etc. Plus using darkness, it is easy for anyone with Claymore superhuman ability to maintain quiet presence while sneaking in since human senses is noticeably poor during night. Plus a blind blonde long hair woman look no different from a blind blonde long hair Claymore operator. She could go to Church and get herself ordained for nun life.

The only thing I can't figure out is how she hide the sword. Hee.

Gooral
2007-11-03, 04:07
She could hide it somewhere outside of the city (bury it for example) and after accommodation (becoming a nun :) ) retrieve it without suspicion. Or maybe she had some acquaintance in Rabona and that's why she chose this city.

stormy001_M1A2
2007-11-03, 04:13
And I really amazed at the sword metallurgy. Clarice practically smashed her weapon into the wall and the sword still looks like a sword. Can't help it.

Defiled one
2007-11-03, 05:15
It doesnīt rust. So the dudes over the org know how to make weapons, if it is metal made.

Seska
2007-11-03, 05:37
Option #1 is highly unlikely. If someone was good enough to poke Galatea's eyes then he/she would propably finish her off. Why would someone blind her and not kill her ? Also how powerful would have that person be to do that ? AO class for sure. The only person who could have motive (I can think off) would be Riful. She wanted only Galatea's greatest and unique trait - youki manipulation/sensing. She didn't need her to be healthy. In fact maybe she expected that when blind Galatea would sharpen her ability and be more useful later.
Option #2 is what I think. Rabona was the best hideout for Galatea, not only she could lay low, but also she was able to enjoy her life. She blinded herself, thanks to that not Miata would be underestimated but Galatea. I think that Clarice and Miata will give up from killing her, don't know maybe the kids will plead for her, or Galk and Sid will persuade them to stop her.


#1 Rafaella? We know only she and her Sister were equal in Youki force when they wield Rank #1 and #2 at her time. Galatea is #3. Nobody can compare Luciela with Teresa so far. Because Rafaela and Luciela is a older Generation of Claymores then Teresa.

We only saw Teresa on a side story, fighting against her previous #1 Claymore pal.

Let us just get surprised...

#2 gark and his buddy explains why, there are Claymores in the city. They are not well seen in the Public, but they are welcome in the Shadows :)
and, looks like Galatea sneaks in when she was already blind.. "...Some years ago a blinded woman settles in this city...", ergo they don't know her be an ex-Claymore. Perhaps she hides her Weapon inside a Statue like Clare :) or an Wagon.

And for the fight. For Teresa there where Clare the Anchor, for Clare there were Raki the Anchor. For Miata there is Clarice the mother :) I bet, she still have control over herself. Or Clarice will protect Miata going Overlimit or perhaps as sacrifice to guard Galatea's children.

But we know it isn't the first time. We lost Ophelia (yes she has Fanboys), Irene (even if the most don't take it), Teresa (well, she must die somehow for the Storyline Main Actor), Luciela (At last she could hold the AB Lord's power balance in check for a while) and other Claymores that grow fans around them.

Defiled one
2007-11-03, 05:58
Riful is after Galatea. If galatea fights, Riful will notice it and will run after her. Maybe the seven ghosts or the unknown factor.

BaalChaamon
2007-11-03, 06:17
Riful is after Galatea. If galatea fights, Riful will notice it and will run after her. Maybe the seven ghosts or the unknown factor.

For some odd reason I think Riful will get Galatea in the end.. a scary thought I know but she is desperate and powerful and that is one freakish combination.Unless the new Eye of the Org. is more powerful I doubt there is anyone in the Claymore world at the moment who beats Galatea when it comes to Yoki reading/manipulation.

Yet again, your questions call for a ES on Galatea that I had wished for Chibamonster. :)

Flar
2007-11-03, 06:32
Claymores are unbreakable, unchippable, never rust, never lose their edge, and have very very little surface tension (just need to be swung once to be cleaned). Seems to be some teflon/diamond/titanium compound, only 100x better. Makes you wonder why the org doesn't have full armors made with that metal, they would be invulnerable.

Regarding Galatea's blindness, her course of action is quite obvious, as Clarice explained. Rabona is perfect to hide from the org since they aren't allowed in, and looking for a Yoki-less Claymore would require a lot of investigation. She only needed to get rid of what marked her as a Claymore: her eyes, and her aura, so she did it.
Slashing her own eyes was a stroke of genius: it elicited the pity of townspeople, it explained why a lone woman would stumble at their door and it hid her silver eyes at the same time. She probably said she was attacked by Yomas. She just needed to hop outside one night, get her Claymore and hide it in the Cathedral after she joined the church.


Some remarks after rereading the thing:

Clarice is depicted as intelligent and quick-witted, even if she is still naive about the org. She guessed who Galatea might be instantly, she negotiated with Galk pretty well, she understood what needed to be done considering Galatea's performance. In her first chapter, she also was the one trying to understand and gather information, who counted the Claymore graves instead of dismissing it out of hand, and who reported the possibility of having rogue Claymores in the north.
Galatea could manipulate Clarice, but she had to dodge Miata. Her Yoki manipulation doesn't work on her.
Galatea has a spidey-sense/Newtype flash warning her of incoming Miata. The same 6th sense as Miata, more or less, I imagine.
Her last sentence, could it relate to the trick Riful was talking about? It would be a good way to introduce it to the readers, this way of overcoming an overwhelming disadvantage in Yoki power.
Once again, it is shown humans can sense Yoki, when it's strong enough. Clare could when Priscilla awakened ("immense and sinister Yoma energy"), and now the Rabona guys show they could back then with the puny Yoma, and now they sense a higher level being.


So, who is producing that strong Yoki?

It could be Miata, Galatea almost looked like she tried to make her awaken before Clarice butted in. Galatea would have stayed to try her trick on a real Claymore.
It could also be Galatea, pushing past her limits or showing the result of repressing one's aura for years. (it would put Teresa's release in another light, too, showing that her Yoki power wasn't innate but a result of her no-release behavior, at the same time that it would augur freakish power from the 7 samurais)
It could be another being hiding in Rabona. Several reasons possible: Galatea is one of them, Galatea could not kill it alone (and waited for the org to send her reinforcements), Galatea didn't know it was here and the fight attracted them.


I'm partial to the idea that Isley, Priscilla and Raki drifted back in Rabona, and that this Yoki display is from one of them. Guts!Raki teaming with Miata to hunt down the bad Claymore Galatea would be hilarious, if only for the moment he would meet Clare. "Hi, Clare, I am now friend with the people who killed about everyone you liked. How have you been?"

Mikke
2007-11-03, 07:09
Somehow I imagined raki to grow up being this muscle bound, thug like dude only do distinguish him from galk, he would be considerably less of the scarred by
life's mischiefs warrior type and more the cheery homie who would go out hunting and chopping trees all day long.

That would probably be the case after all the years, i'd imagine he was training with isley and babysitting pricsilla, but.... I'd doubt he'd just start a family somewhere and live happilly ever after so... I bet we'll see him soon...

I bet he will become rabona's devoted soldier eventually...

Tevourious
2007-11-03, 08:36
Personally I think Raki is gonna come back crazy as hell. He's been with Isley and Priss for the last seven years. He's not going to be the plucky lil punk he was before. He'll be hardcore for a human most assuredly even better than Galk most likely. I mean hell, Isely has been training him. I think he's gonna be a bitter little bastard mad at Clare for leaving him and totally in love with Priscilla. Not only that, but I think he's gonna be Yoma fueled somehow. BLEH, I hope I'm wrong and he just comes back as a fairly normal and confused dude who's been forced to live with demons. I do not want to see a Badass Raki :frustrated:

BaalChaamon
2007-11-03, 08:38
Not only that, but I think he's gonna be Yoma fueled somehow. BLEH, I hope I'm wrong and he just comes back as a fairly normal and confused dude who's been forced to live with demons. I do not want to see a Badass Raki :frustrated:

After 7 years of being Priscilla's and Isley's toyboy, heck I would be suprised if he was not confused and disturbed.:eyespin:

Rotton the Wizard
2007-11-03, 09:13
Galatea: shit...I was intending to have it after getting more closer...
(*the meaning of this line if still unclear. Just a direct translation for now.*)


OOOOoow....(*sound)

Citizen: Oi, what is it...

Syd: Gark!
Gark: yeah. it is same as...the Yoma of seven years ago...

Syd: No...it is something huge and more ominous...

The End



Please, please, please let there be a Miata vs. Galatea vs. Riful battle royale next chapter!:love::love::love: I would love to see an AB quickly getting ripped to shreds by a blind nun and Teresa mk II! :D

Claymore just won't stop bleeding with awesome.

Fate_Archer
2007-11-03, 09:51
Galatea could manipulate Clarice, but she had to dodge Miata. Her Yoki manipulation doesn't work on her.



Probably because of the same reason she couldn't avoid Dauf's punches at a certain time.
Miata comes with full strength to make her blows, and that's the weakness of this technique.

With her new improvement, yoki-aligning in order to manipulate blows has improved as well.
To align yoki and subsequently manipulate things, you have to see the yoki flow in the least details.

So, more yoki details and better yoki insight leads to an even better chance to manipulate her enemies.

But even so, Miata can beat her manipulation. I think we can give that to Miata's great raw power.

Galatea has a spidey-sense/Newtype flash warning her of incoming Miata. The same 6th sense as Miata, more or less, I imagine.



I don't think it's something like Miata's sense. Miata's sense is based on instincts and it doesn't rely on yoki.

I think that the better comparison for the new way Galatea sense things would be with Teresa's ability, where she foresee the attacks, guided by the yoki flow.
Now that Galatea's senses improved at the point to even sense yoki through a Claymore in suppression pills, I think it's safe to say that she is orientating herself by the yoki flow as well.
It explain why she dodged and evaded so skilfully Miata's blows, which she wasn't manipulating at that time.


So, who is producing that strong Yoki?

It could be Miata, Galatea almost looked like she tried to make her awaken before Clarice butted in. Galatea would have stayed to try her trick on a real Claymore.
It could also be Galatea, pushing past her limits or showing the result of repressing one's aura for years. (it would put Teresa's release in another light, too, showing that her Yoki power wasn't innate but a result of her no-release behavior, at the same time that it would augur freakish power from the 7 samurais)
It could be another being hiding in Rabona. Several reasons possible: Galatea is one of them, Galatea could not kill it alone (and waited for the org to send her reinforcements), Galatea didn't know it was here and the fight attracted them.



Regarding the yoki that people felt in the end of the chapter...

It can be Miata or Galatea, but I don't think it's one of these two.

As they were saying, there is something strange in the town recently. Most probably an AB.
But I think it's not a random one, if so, Galatea should be more than enough to track and kill it.
It's rather something more powerful I guess. That's what we shall see in the next chapter.

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About Galatea's and Claymore's beliefs.

In a way, I think every Claymore has a God's belief.
If they weren't taught when kids, they would probably learn with life.

Hope is something that goes along with all their lives. And it can be easily assimilated to a religion or belief.
In a difficult moment, Clare appealed to Rabona's God, for Raki's sake.

Also, Claymores do travel a lot. And they pass through many cities.
It seems that in the Claymore World, there are different cultures that vary from place to place.
Up till now, we have the Rabona's God and the twin Goddess Clare and Teresa.
During their travels, it's possible to happen cultural exchanges and influences.

Even Teresa, who was not the epitome of getting along with people before Clare, knew the twin Goddess.

I don't think that Claymores, except by Ophelia who was actually a victim, are that cold-hearted.
They just live in a world where their strength and their hope are all that is left for them.

Mikke
2007-11-03, 10:57
I completely disagree with that. Those claymores you speak of are only Clare and Teresa who consequently found faith after finding a reason to live. Teresa didn't smile because she was happy, but because she was mocking everything and everyone around her. A rain of irony poured on her with the knowledge of yoma being "directed" by the organization towards towns that couldn't afford to pay, or with humans who fear yoma but occasionally behave even worse.... instances are probably limitless... Buut... then she met Clare and remember what it was like being human and suddenly remember some old stories about The Twin Godesses... Maybe even found faith, who know? the point is that she probably knew she was going to die.


Clare's the same.... Only that she was driven by rage from the beginning and found a bit of faith when she met Raki. I sencerely doubt that she had any before.... After being through all that crap She wouldn't turn to faith.... gimme a break.

cf18
2007-11-03, 11:03
Clarice has been shown to be rather smart, e.g. counting the old claymore grave carefully instead of just ignoring it. May be that is how she survive the final exam with her weak power.



What will Miata do if Sid do his usual thing and force kiss the #47?

A: Kick him.
B: Kill him.
C: Call him papa.

Anh_Minh
2007-11-03, 11:04
Meh. Knowing a religion isn't the same as having a religion.

All Claymores are trained to smile like like prostitutes or act reserved like noblewomen. They're probably given enough info to not sound like complete idiots whenever religion comes up in the conversation.

Sassarai
2007-11-03, 11:06
Some reason I don't imagine it will be a happy reunion when Raki meets Clare. Raki is probably very strong by now and more attach to Prissy and Easley.

airguitar316
2007-11-03, 11:09
Clarice has been shown to be rather smart, e.g. counting the old claymore grave carefully instead of just ignoring it. May be that is how she survive the final exam with her weak power.



What will Miata do if Sid do his usual thing and force kiss the #47?

A: Kick him.
B: Kill him.
C: Call him papa.

Didn't he do the same thing to the ORIGINAL # 47? Just imagine if one of those 2 stepped in and held Clare instead of Raki, then we have a brand new series without Raki.

Mikke
2007-11-03, 11:41
When a claymore hits numbr one, she doesn't smile like a prostitute anymore. That unless she wants to...

Nesty
2007-11-03, 11:45
Miata is so gonna awaken.... very similar situation as Priss vs Teresa, Shes angry, frustrated and out of control. I sense a near Teresa Caliber disaster brewing here.

Also, I think Raphaela may be in cahoots with Galatea... Just call it a hunch. I think they hooked up right after the stink Lucy died.

good point, i wouldn't be surprised either if miata actually awakened due to fustration. she's not the most stable of claymores now is she :P

as for as galatea + raphaela are concerned, if it really is true. can we call that the blind tag team of claymore lol?

Sassarai
2007-11-03, 11:46
No, because Raph isnt blind.

Nesty
2007-11-03, 11:55
No, because Raph isnt blind.
not in a literal sense since she lost one eye but i mean come on, 2 claymores with scars on their eyes fighting yoma..... >_<

Sassarai
2007-11-03, 11:59
not in a literal sense since she lost one eye but i mean come on, 2 claymores with scars on their eyes fighting yoma..... >_<

No no no no doesnt sound cool at all. Try again :frustrated:

Negativedark
2007-11-03, 12:42
Clarice has been shown to be rather smart, e.g. counting the old claymore grave carefully instead of just ignoring it. May be that is how she survive the final exam with her weak power.



What will Miata do if Sid do his usual thing and force kiss the #47?

A: Kick him.
B: Kill him.
C: Call him papa.

D: Declare she wants a little brother or sister. NOW.

Tevourious
2007-11-03, 12:45
Oh btw, everyone seemed shocked at first to see a male awakened being. But just about all of them so far have been males.


Rosemary
Riful
Hilda
Priss
Ophelia
Ophelia's um friend
Jeans Friend

then you got all the guys
Isley
Rigardo
Duff
Blind AO in pieta
Turtle AO in pieta
Miria's "target in pieta
First seen Male awakened one.
the group that owned Clarice's friends
The group that Alicia killed looked all male
the group that Duph encountered looked male too.

Well they did say males do it more, I guess thats true. Man you'd think they'd have stop making them after the first 5 or so LOL cripes.

Tevourious
2007-11-03, 12:55
I too thin Galatea will eventually be snatched by Riful :( Its the worse thing that could happen which makes for great drama, BUT it won't happen for a little while I think. Clare OR oddly Miata and Clarice will have to make friends with her first, to make it all the more Tragic. An awakened Galatea would be scary indeed.

Sassarai
2007-11-03, 13:30
/cheer the translated version is out.

Mikke
2007-11-03, 13:40
Why would riful chase galatea? I doub't she still wants her as her ally, well.... Not that she has any perticular interest in her.... So she can manipulate yoki, so what?
She made it clear when duff was fighting galatea in the cave that those mind tricks only work on idiots like him.

Sassarai
2007-11-03, 13:44
Why would riful chase galatea? I doub't she still wants her as her ally, well.... Not that she has any perticular interest in her.... So she can manipulate yoki, so what?
She made it clear when duff was fighting galatea in the cave that those mind tricks only work on idiots like him.

OMG DID YOU EVEN READ CHAP 71?!!

Flar
2007-11-03, 13:49
I think that the better comparison for the new way Galatea sense things would be with Teresa's ability,
[...]
It explain why she dodged and evaded so skilfully Miata's blows, which she wasn't manipulating at that time.It doesn't explain how she senses normal humans, buildings, or even her own Claymore, though. You think there is Yoki in everything, or Yoki waves reflected by landscape, that she could process like a radar, or something? (cause if you say she uses sound, touch, or smell, then it is like Miata.

Sassarai
2007-11-03, 13:57
After reading the subbed chapter..

Galatea seems like shes really happy living among humans.
She said that she was let in a couple of years ago.... a couple isnt 7 years so something must of caused her to lose her eye before that and maybe she just kept it that way in order to stay in rabona. o_O. Uh oh I feel like an extra scene is comming up...
Also they mentioned the villagers were disappearing and now something is comming at the end of the chapter. Hmm must be something very strong my guess o_O Sounds like the fight will get interrupted.

red_dragone
2007-11-03, 14:02
It doesn't explain how she senses normal humans, buildings, or even her own Claymore, though. You think there is Yoki in everything, or Yoki waves reflected by landscape, that she could process like a radar, or something? (cause if you say she uses sound, touch, or smell, then it is like Miata.
Maybe Galatea's radar is like echo-location. She senses things that have yoki and by default gets an impression of the things that are yoki-less, like a something dark in a bright room. She can interpret the shape and characteristics of things that have no yoki almost as well as things that do. Just an idea:heh:

Hypervalor
2007-11-03, 14:15
Noooo, my beautiful Galatea is now blind! :(

She is beautiful and now she will die :(

Mikke
2007-11-03, 14:16
Oh gawd... wth did you have to remind me, I guess that's why I forgot.... Rachel's butchy smirk! *shudders*

OMG! DID YOU EVEN READ CHAPTER 71?! yeah I read it! so she said that she's interested in what happened to her, wow.... Doesn't mean
she's gonna look for her.

LesAmiesNoir
2007-11-03, 14:19
Well Riful is looking for a yoki manipulator, and well seeming Galatea has gotten on the bad side of the org maybe joining Riful wouldn't be a bad option for her. If she, let's say, ends up with a really problematic situation after this battle. And no I would be all to shocked if she got killed now, to much potential for future plot development; so has Miata so I don't think either will die.

Mikke
2007-11-03, 14:32
Maybe Galatea's radar is like echo-location. She senses things that have yoki and by default gets an impression of the things that are yoki-less, like a something dark in a bright room. She can interpret the shape and characteristics of things that have no yoki almost as well as things that do. Just an idea:heh:

That is interesting, like a negative effect on a flimstrip. In order to achieve this ability thouh, she must have absolute yoki reading. So that regardless of how far away and how powerful the yoki's source is, the yoki flows may create a dimensional format of what the world looks like.

Up untill now the only one having absolute yoki reading was seemingly teresa. She however never used her abilities outside combat.

Seska
2007-11-03, 14:37
But beware...

Teresa was top class in reading Youki, too.

But in the battle with Prissi, she....

um okay, i try to explain it in other way...

Imagine, teresa has some kind of "Night vision Goggles" to read someone Youki.
In the fight with Prissi. She got blinded.. why? Well, Prissi released so much Youki. that she created to much light, for the Goggles to handle. And thats blinded teresas skill in reading Youki...

Hope Galatea, will not experience the same thing here...

DazarGaidin
2007-11-03, 14:43
I dont think galatea will tho, cause i dont think hers is like teresa, i think her sensing isnt as focused (think of the goggle analogy) as teresa. Its like she has radar where teresa had a scope. You can fill a scope but radar isnt likely to get blinded. Teresa could see every flow in someones body and around them and read it to precise detail. I think galatea has like a yoki net she can feel all around her. With her previous range increased and the detail increased (what she can determine from the yoki as well, remember she read it like a book before), she could be sensing yoki from anywhere half around the world for all we know and able to use the echo location effect like you mentioned.

Also, we dont see her when there arent any yoki creatures around so she might be moving like a normal blind person when a yoki emmiting being isnt present. Tho there was rumors of a yoma so that might provide enough for her 'sight'

Altho she could prolly move around decently when blinded compared to a normal person anyway, claymores are pretty well trained warriors and appear to have heightened senses as it is (over humans)

Gooral
2007-11-03, 14:44
(...)
She said that she was let in a couple of years ago.... a couple isnt 7 years so something must of caused her to lose her eye before that and maybe she just kept it that way in order to stay in rabona. o_O. (...)Don't know how's it in english but in my language word couple means a number >=2 <10.


I'm more concerned in what Clarice said:
-Wait a second...
-To be able to read our Youki means...
-she must have known we were coming...!?
Maybe the reason she didn't escape was this mysterious youma/AB who she couldn't defeat by herself so she waited for "backup". Also I wonder why the Org sent someone to kill Galatea after long 7 years. She wasn't much of the threat for them, she didn't make a fuss and didn't cause trouble to them. So just because they had enough power to take her down they decided to get rid of her? Maybe they wanted to test Miata's abilities but then they could find other measures to do that.
[random stupid idea] It would be interesting (and impossible to be true) if the Org knew where Galatea was and this AB was their puppet of some sort for their plan to get these three work together. [/]

Sassarai
2007-11-03, 14:47
When a couple or a few usually is around 2-3 for me ~_~ I dunno how what its like for others.

japanese word for a few/couple is nin-san. Which is just 2 and 3 -_-

Mikke
2007-11-03, 14:49
I'm afraid you are mistaken my friend... Pricsilla, like raphaela had the gift of being able to hide her youki really well, and THAT was SUPPOSABLY to be the trumph card against Teresa. Since Teresa, according to Irene was only good because she
could easily predict her opponent's move's by reading youki.. But, surprise!
Teresa was also mighty awesome in swordsmanship alone so :D

Although that theory IS correct, the reason teresa lost was... No, two reasons because of which she lost were

1) Priscilla was just too damn strong and crazy.

2) Teresa returned her mighty cool yellow eyes back to normal and went soft on her which eventually resulted in what I call: "The flying octopus"

Seska
2007-11-03, 14:52
I dont think galatea will tho, cause i dont think hers is like teresa, i think her sensing isnt as focused (think of the google analogy) as teresa. Its like she has radar where teresa had a scope. You can fill a scope but radar isnt likely to get blinded. Teresa could see every flow in someones body and around them and read it to precise detail. I think galatea has like a yoki net she can feel all around her. With her previous range increased and the detail increased (what she can determine from the yoki as well, remember she read it like a book before), she could be sensing yoki from anywhere half around the world for all we know and able to use the echo location effect like you mentioned.

Also, we dont see her when there arent any yoki creatures around so she might be moving like a normal blind person when a yoki emmiting being isnt present. Tho there was rumors of a yoma so that might provide enough for her 'sight'

Good answer, but i think we forgotten something important here :) And i think even the Story writer....

if she is blinded...

Heck how did she live her daily lives as a Human without help of others? :) There are Walls, cliffs and so other thing what we can see. But as a blinded person.. You get it? :)

Well, she live in a Manga World...

so...
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd59/Seska_Spam/146185catom2.gif

... it is true, just exchange Physics with Human laws :)

okay.. Small hints...

Jump backward on top of a Window... Did Walls or Wood emits Youki waves? .... now you understand?....
or want you tell me, she useing some skills like a Bat?

Gooral
2007-11-03, 15:02
Galatea wouldn't be #3 if her only asset was youki reading. Tabitha excelled at it too, propably she had potential to be a great Eye but for some reason she was sent to Pieta. She was just weak and Galatea was more like all-rounder type. If people here assume that when Clare sensed Galatea the first time it was only a hunch, why then Galatea wouldn't be able to not bum the walls ? You can sense if there is some kind of obstacle. When you're drunk you can somehow always get back to your home on your feet, and the second day you can't remember how you made it. If drunken me can get back without bone breaking then Galatea could do it sober with eyes closed :P.
Also who said that no one helped her. I don't know how did she manage to smuggle her sword.

red_dragone
2007-11-03, 15:06
Good answer, but i think we forgotten something important here :) And i think even the Story writer....

if she is blinded...

Heck how did she live her daily lives as a Human without help of others? :) There are Walls, cliffs and so other thing what we can see. But as a blinded person.. You get it? :)

Considering she's been a nun there for several years, she would know the terrain inside and out just like a normal blind person would. I wouldn't even be surprised if she was extremely familiar with a good part of Rabona, most blind people quickly learn where everything is within areas they have to travel through frequently.

However, I do think Galatea's yoki sensing enables her to get a better feeling for her world, whether it emits yoki or not. It's like only being able to see things that emit light, you will naturally notice things that 'block' the light, e.g. non yoki-emitting humans, walls, etc. She may not be able to 'see' them as well, but she knows they are there.

Seska
2007-11-03, 15:08
Galatea wouldn't be #3 if her only asset was youki reading. Tabitha excelled at it too, propably she had potential to be a great Eye but for some reason she was sent to Pieta. She was just weak and Galatea was more like all-rounder type. If people here assume that when Clare sensed Galatea the first time it was only a hunch, why then Galatea wouldn't be able to not bum the walls ? You can sense if there is some kind of obstacle. When you're drunk you can somehow always get back to your home on your feet, and the second day you can't remember how you made it. If drunken me can get back without bone breaking then Galatea could do it sober with eyes closed :P.
Also who said that no one helped her. I don't know how did she manage to smuggle her sword.

Well for normal human action it is all right, but i was thinking of Galatea going into "battle mode" to avoid Miatas attacks. Sure she sensed her coming. But, in a instant (we know the Claymore body moving speed) she Jumps backward high into a Window.. Did she know the high to jump? Did she smell the window? or did she fall so many times from it, that she know it with his first name :) ? Hope i explained it better now :).. This Jump... yes.. this short action. confused me :)

Sure blinded people use other senses to make up for the eyes... Like help of Sound, Smell and touching.

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-03, 15:10
I think it is a rather simple matter of her doing the typical blind-swordsman thing, all her senses are enchanced (including Yoki-sensing) so she is able to move around normally.

Now that their is an opponent with Yoki fighting her, Galatea can probably see her clear as day with her enchanced Yoki-sensing, so I think Galatea's yoki-sensing is probably superior to Teresa's now, but Galatea is still no-where near as strong as Teresa was.

The Yoma being in the city might be an AB hunting Galatea for Riful.

Riful did specifically state she wanted someone who could manipulate Yoma-energy after all.

Mikke
2007-11-03, 15:13
Galatea has to have the abilities of a goddess if she is to read youki as well as teresa did. Scope or radar, doesn't matter. A scope's purpose is to enlarge, you cannot enlarge unless you focus on one area.

The yoki reading is measured by how well you can enlarge, and reveal to yourself
all that your enemy is hiding from you. Any secret, technique, strike or whatever.

Galatea can never be compared to Teresa since she had no such abilities, and that is why she was sent to reconnaissance missions rather than battles.

Gooral
2007-11-03, 15:15
(...)Hope i explained it better now :) (...)

Yeah, I thought You had in mind "daily life" and my response was referring to that.
Heck how did she live her daily lives as a Human without help of others?

Seska
2007-11-03, 15:16
I think it is a rather simple matter of her doing the typical blind-swordsman thing, all her senses are enchanced (including Yoki-sensing) so she is able to move around normally.

Now that their is an opponent with Yoki fighting her, Galatea can probably see her clear as day with her enchanced Yoki-sensing, so I think Galatea's yoki-sensing is probably superior to Teresa's now, but Galatea is still no-where near as strong as Teresa was.

The Yoma being in the city might be an AB hunting Galatea for Riful.

Riful did specifically state she wanted someone who could manipulate Yoma-energy after all.

Okay... let make an compromise. Galatea is blind. But she can see ,with help of her Youki reading (aka the Org Eye) skill, the World like Jordi la Fordge (Yes. This guy from Star Trek:TNG).... All kind of thing emites waves, or reflect them.. in other spectrum of human eyes can see... :)

okay? :)

DazarGaidin
2007-11-03, 15:27
I wasn't saying galatea was like teresa, i was saying the opposite. A scope might have been a bad example, but i needed something that focuses on a precise thing with limited field of view (a microscope might be to focused of an impression). Basically i am saying teresa can see every flow someone emits even down to their limbs (easier to blind something so focused) where galatea isnt focused, its like wide area radar where she can sense more general impressions/details. She probably cant precog like teresa but can see/sense motivations and things of her opponent (in slashers she used the yoki to determine what they were pretty much feeling) as well as what was happening.

I think she prolly got around like a normal blind person, probably with father vincents help when she first got there, until yoki creatures entered the city. Faced with someone like miata, she prolly could use yokilocation (tm) very well, to galatea there is prolly waves of yoki splashing everything around her giving her a good idea of her surroundings. Like a candle in a room, illuminating things (for say someone like clarice or the yoma), but miata (especially when she released her yoki) was like a bonfire.

azurie
2007-11-03, 15:31
ok now that i've read a translated copy of it i'm better prepared to discuss this topic now :D.

ALRIGHTY THEN!!!!!


Ok first order of business . . . .

As we have seen the two from the first trip the org. had into Rabona have proven to of some, let's call it assistance for now due to lack of any better term, by assisting Clarice and Miata all be it to the dismay of Galatea. They also stated that they are very sloyly working on some rather big changes on how that town addresses things of an unatural state IE half human half yoma beings. Not complete Yoma mind you there must be some obvious limits as they hinted to with the mentioning of the missing of several people and Clarice's offer to help with that little problem. All of that are good things IMHO.

Now the second order of business. . . . .

Galatea displayed what seemed to be pure joy in some small fashion with being with the children almost motherly like one could say, semblence of Teresa and Clare don't ya think? Even the priest mentioned as much. So it stands to reason that she was in deep regret and sadness to have to break it to him that for the time she had been there she was decieving him about who she really was but wanted the children to at least always think of her as nothing but normal in their eyes. Love it's a troubling emotion in many ways it can bring strength or weakness depending on how it's brought about and I'm not sure how it's being brought about here, but it IS being brought about in some form.

Ok now for the third order of business . . . .

With Galatea now locked into a fight against Miata and the obviously weak Clarice she has to use what she has herself stated to the shock of Clarice is her very much improved yoki reading skills. What i do not think either have completely relized yet is her ability to use their yoki to HER advantage has improved as well and as much as her ability to sense it. Time will tell on that front IE the next chapter perhaps?? She did let us know that the overall yoki level of Miata was larger than Galatea's but raw strength of Miata verses Galatea I'm not so sure since she didn't seem to be as overly worried about that as much as I would have thought almost seemed to blow it off infact.


AND!! Lastly . . . . .

That sound at the end and the feeling the normal humans sensed. I have no doubts it was something imense but I do not think it was from either Galatea or Miata. I just have this gut reaction it was something stronger than both of them and something more sinister and possibiliy requiring them to both team up to defeat it and thus causing them to come to a truce even possibly causing Miata to grudgingly like Galatea if say she saves mommy . . . . .

and with that I will leave people hanging with my thoughts on their brain cells for now as that's how I've been able to percive it thus far and as always I COULD always be wrong as I've been proven before and also been proven to be right too =) time will tell time will tell.

DazarGaidin
2007-11-03, 16:12
I am all for miata and clarice going against the org/joining the rebels. Or at the very least being sympathetic counterpart in the org (kinda like galatea was before she completely rolled out). Like i said before clarice seems like a good girl, and the foundation for her trusting the rebels and doubting the org has kinda been seeded already.

Maybe she and galatea will be a new rebel team, kinda separate from the others but willing to join up here and there, that would be cool.

But thats all speculation/wishful fantasizing :P

Fenrir_valindri
2007-11-03, 16:27
I am all for miata and clarice going against the org/joining the rebels. Or at the very least being sympathetic counterpart in the org (kinda like galatea was before she completely rolled out). Like i said before clarice seems like a good girl, and the foundation for her trusting the rebels and doubting the org has kinda been seeded already.

Maybe she and galatea will be a new rebel team, kinda separate from the others but willing to join up here and there, that would be cool.

But thats all speculation/wishful fantasizing :P

I don't think your theory is out of the question, I think the seed has already been soed with Galatea having a connection with the children, and Miata herself behind a child. Not to mention Clarice seems like someone who would be sympathetic.

azurie
2007-11-03, 16:38
I also touched on that when I mentioned that the love factor was being put into play in some form that also includes the mother role as well since tell me a stronger love bond than a mother and her child?

Icephere
2007-11-03, 17:06
I'm curious as to why that "yoma" appeared at the end of the chapter.It won't be smart to come out of his/her shell and decide to take down two strong claymores all by himself.

Edit: Who knows!Maybe it is awakened Rafaela!

DazarGaidin
2007-11-03, 17:28
Or Riful, hard to say. Whoever it is they need to be crazy strong to show themselves to them. I wouldn't mind another Duff/Galatea moment or two either :P

Mizuno
2007-11-03, 17:34
Someone mentioned that Galatea is a defensive type yet she's not regenerating her eyes. Perhaps she's doing it on purpose to sharpen her senses, in the event she's endangered she'd regenerate it.

I think at the end there is the voice of someone who just awakened.

Icephere
2007-11-03, 17:42
Or Riful, hard to say. Whoever it is they need to be crazy strong to show themselves to them. I wouldn't mind another Duff/Galatea moment or two either :P

I was thinking that it could be Riful but...Riful screaming O_o;; She can just appear out of the thin air and surprise everyone around her :)

Galatea or Miata could be a possibility but from what I interpret from the last page, there was a roar heard from far off while the two were engaged in the battle.

azurie
2007-11-03, 17:47
i'm thinking it's someone new or someone from the past who's really strong that maybe we forgot about hmm . . . . . but who?

Sassarai
2007-11-03, 18:09
Some reason I think being attach to humans is going to lead to Garatea's downfall. Just like Teresa :( .

Mandrake
2007-11-03, 18:24
I think some badass youma or awakenned being just enterred the fray, will galatea bail out and let clarice and miata take the hit, or cooperate?